fury

[tardy lark]

i played it for one key

never again

[fading sky]

The misalignnt of cds

[bitter palm]

they mastered

piano gameplay

[fading sky]

Kills it for me

[heavy galleon]

The new reap on rampage AoE is a good idea but I hope they'll buff ST a bit

[bitter palm]

what kills it for me is that ravager is the real cd

[native wadi]

St needs huge buff

[fading sky]

They must else its thane obly

🤣

[native wadi]

I just got beaten by a monk tank in m+

In a boss

And im 269 xd

[tardy lark]

got through first big lusst pull in skyreach, looked at my dps and went "shit, i forgot sweep and demolish"

[fading sky]

Get more procs

[bitter palm]

[tardy lark]

then nothing made sense with CS lineups

[native wadi]

He did 61k tho

[bitter palm]

ye sweep not stacking with broad strokes

is so evil

idk how that went through

[tardy lark]

although no cd cleaves kinda bang

[bitter palm]

so much shit to track cd wise

[tardy lark]

im confused how any arms warrior changes went through

[fading sky]

Broadstrokes shouls just give perma sweep tbh

[tardy lark]

pile on @oblique trail

[bitter palm]

pile on @oblique trail

[native wadi]

Most of em a miss

[fading sky]

As if playd perfectly it is

[bitter palm]

time for new imgur and forums post

[heavy galleon]

You think hero spec will be here again for the last titan ?

[bitter palm]

ig

[native wadi]

I wanna meet the person thst nerf arms

Before release

What did they look at?

[tardy lark]

14 paragraphs, 2 lines of changes

i need to find the xeos meme

[bitter palm]

can they just remove bleeds from the spec at this point

[heavy galleon]

Create spec into spec it's not a good idea

[bitter palm]

make colo mortal combo or something

[fading sky]

Ofc

[bitter palm]

what i dont understand

is how

[oblique trail]

4-Set - Pile On - Tactician has a 50% increased chance to proc against enemies with Colossus Smash and causes your next Overpower to grant 2% Strength, up to 8% for 15 sec.

[native wadi]

Spec into spec is a great idea

If you put resources into it

[bitter palm]

some specs got "x spell is guaranteed to crit" for their apex

[fading sky]

Mortal combp and unhingdd tbh should be colo

[bitter palm]

and arms didnt

like HOW

HOW

HOW

HOw

is our tierset not

MS ALWAYS CRITS

??????????

apex

not tierset

[fading sky]

And slayer bladestorm should fuck

[bitter palm]

that shit is legit tilting me beyond belief

the NUMBER 1 PROBLEM arms has had

[native wadi]

Wait 90s for another bladestorm to hit like a wet noddles

[tardy lark]

I saw a 130k demolish cret and went "damn, thats a little higher than my execute BTs crit as thane"

[bitter palm]

since is tarted playing it in sl

ye and cleave hits for 300k

👍

10% nerf

btw

[shy knot]

Slayer rn is terrible

[tardy lark]

almost everything about warrior is terrible

[bitter palm]

how the fuck

is demolish not guaranteed crit

[shy knot]

Nah I enjoy thane

[bitter palm]

why is arms perma crit gamba

[shy knot]

Its smooth

[fading sky]

I love it

[bitter palm]

ye i love seeing ms hit for 20k

as colossus

its so good

[tardy lark]

we also had a guildie that played a decent amount of manaforge farm with us that logged on evoker on beta and 2 hours later sent a message to officers that he quit lol

[fading sky]

When gamba is good

[tardy lark]

that was my feeling doing first round of m0s

2 uh dks just blew up packs with a 30 sec cd

[oblique trail]

kingly honestly

[tardy lark]

i could keep up with 30 sec cds with avatar 🙂

[oblique trail]

he knew what he wanted, and it was not whatever that was

[tardy lark]

yeah its was an aura move

[quiet osprey]

isn't there a talent that says MS crits in colo? bro imagine every MS critting... that would feel to good

[bitter palm]

no

and the worst part

is that we have 900000000 crit damage

talents

so ms can either not crit for 20k or crit for 100k

2x ep into ms

and it hits for 50k

i guess bro

idk how is this design real

[strong monolith]

Arms kekw

[native wadi]

Facts

Warr sucks and they dont care

But at least

We csn clap in m+

[quiet osprey]

i can ignore most things but cleave on ST is so pepega

[tardy lark]

colossus is just jank ontop of jank with bad numbers and slayer got neutered so bad

[bitter palm]

the last time colo felt good to play was tww beta

i dont remember much

good is an overstatement

but better than every iteration after it

[bitter palm]

ms mega fucked

then ms got nerfed by 25% or something in prepatch

[brittle mauve]

hi all - are the 80 myth crests worth the craft updgrade for our weapon? hearing mixed reports - is that a value move or...?

[smoky nacelle]

its our bread and butter

[brittle mauve]

ok, sending it

[blissful hound]

Anyone who claims its not worth has absolutely no idea what theyre saying

[smoky nacelle]

higher the damage on the weapon the more our abilites hit including our auto attacks, they both scale w/ weapon

plus strength is king, we want as much as possible

[brittle mauve]

ok ty, didn't know

and that is 285 ilvl, correct?

[smoky nacelle]

yuppers

[brittle mauve]

awesome, ty

now to get an off hand that doesn't have vers on it...

[smoky nacelle]

farm Magister's Terrace on mythic+

[brittle mauve]

i was sad about no tier in vault but then I got this:

(I don't mythic raid)

[brittle mauve]

copy that

[bold plume]

Saw some crest bug being announced on wowhead but cant see if its been fixed yet, anyone know more about that issue?

[jagged sorrel]

I saw it, ignored it and crafted my wep

all g

[dry hawk]

My guild yelled at me for not crafting a heroic weapon, I told them I'm waiting till mythic crests due to a bug, all of them didn't believe me until it happened to them

[signal falcon]

Crafting a heroic weapon is just wasting crests and gold

[junior oyster]

isn't that a waste of the crests tho?

[native wadi]

It is

[heavy dock]

isnt the myth recraft bugged as well?

i heard about that mainly

thankfully i wasnt affected

[vast gorge]

im not sure whats wrong but our 3 fury warriors are constantly in the at the bottom or near the bottom on the meters during heroic progression.

[summer quail]

now imagine if we had cs resetting and then granting the next ms/exe crit chance. there's no way they would ever do that in the history of WoW

[south kayak]

It's been 10 years bro

let it go

lmao

[summer quail]

it has not been 10 years

it has been 8

[south kayak]

True

Yo

What have you been doing

Mutou

Are you playing WoW

[summer quail]

yessir, spamming keys

[south kayak]

Fury

?

[summer quail]

for the most part yes. done a few arms dungeons

arms in pit feels nice

[gleaming marsh]

It’s likely that they are playing safe. Fury needs uptime to be strong, if they are playing safe/scared, they will loose a lot of uptime. If you watch high level players they know exactly when/where to be to maximize uptime/cleave.

[south kayak]

How are the dungeons?

I haven't played Midnight

[vast gorge]

We were doing dragons last night and using cds and bl on the pull. Should we be saviong cds for adds instead?

[foggy tinsel]

Holy shit this is me. I am watching the fight, learning mechanics, and staying out of bad. My dps makes me look like I drool on the keyboard. I figured uptime would help, so it's nice just to see somebody say this.

[summer quail]

better than tww. very very easy at 10s tho

[digital mauve]

Which one are the easizqt/toughest as a fury ?

[median umbra]

skyreach easy as hell

[dry hawk]

Wym? I base crafted the weap no crests

[south kayak]

I think that's ok considering you can scale it up infinitely

[digital mauve]

To get 3k rio you need to Time all the dj on +12

[gleaming marsh]

More uptime = more bloodthirst = more avatar/odin/reck

[gleaming marsh]

Fury war for prog is ass unless you are a fast/confident learner. Spend more time watching good warriors in raid and you’ll be a lot better off. True for anything really

[heavy dock]

Im saying ive seen reports of ppl recrafting their raw 259 wep with myth crests and it ate the myth crests with no change

Didnt know it happened to hc ones as well but it makes sense ig

[vast gorge]

i made my own weapon and didnt have a problem

[foggy tinsel]

Getting the timing down helps a lot too. I did better on our reclear since I had seen the fights before, and knew better when to pop cds. Might be worth watching somebody else for a change. Thanks Papalucas

[vast gorge]

oh one more thing.. puzzlebox on cd or only with reck/avatar?

[gleaming marsh]

In raid on cd. In m+, if you know when big pulls are coming it can be better to hold for a 30 sec or so

[vast gorge]

the cast time is so annoying

[lapis karma]

100%, I've left the puzzlebox in the bag...

[sweet flower]

anybody know how I unlock the satchel of champion crests at the upgrade guy? I replaced my last piece of veteran gear

thought I'd get an achievement and the ability to convert veteran to champion

[dry hawk]

Oh God

[turbid fog]

Ezpz, face roll tanked up to +8s on day one as a tank with no tank trinkets or experience tanking

[rare helm]

Where you plan to spend your firsts catalyst charges?

[woven valley]

You have to outlive the use of champion crests, not have all champ gear (so fully upgraded champ stuff)

Or if you want the vet to champ conversion

[sweet flower]

wtf, why would they let me convert veteran to champion when I can't use champion anymore

[woven valley]

You need all 2 of 6 champ

Cause that’s how high vet gear is

[sweet flower]

ok thanks!

[gaunt sonnet]

anyone know where you get the cata charge from after getting 2k rio?

[echo scarab]

What could explain the disparity between my average hit vs another parse?

My Rampage avg is 84.7k (21% crit) vs 110.7k (31% crit) on a top parse

[radiant plank]

Gear

crits

[echo scarab]

thats purely a crit% dif?

[radiant plank]

I cannot tell from the resources you have provided

[south kayak]

Yeah that's not enough

[woven valley]

Item in your bag

[echo scarab]

Their stats
Strength: 2,238
Crit: 333
Haste: 932
Mastery: 1,058
Versatility: 117

Mine:
Strength: 1,990
Crit: 280
Haste: 541
Mastery: 1,203
Versatility: 292

[south kayak]

They have better stats overall

[radiant plank]

ilvl diff

[south kayak]

especially strength

it's ilvl difference

[radiant plank]

300 more main stat lol

[south kayak]

yep lol

that's a lot

[ornate coral]

Hello, 263 ring with haste crit or 250 ring with haste mastery? fury warrior

[radiant plank]

sim

[south kayak]

Sim it

Yo

Revvez is streaming rn

[radiant plank]

yeah echo is doing mythic prog

they r on vorasius now

[south kayak]

What boss is this

[radiant plank]

2nd

[south kayak]

is it an aoe boss?

[radiant plank]

no

The previous one was

[south kayak]

ok

[radiant plank]

this one is from the 1st boss

[honest trail]

Hey guys, I keep simming lots of stuff but the game keeps telling me to get more Haste I'm like

900 haste

For 500 mastery

That's a thing? xD

[radiant plank]

which enrage talent are you using

[honest trail]

Frenzied ofc

[radiant plank]

lol

link your sim and ask @sullen dove

[honest trail]

It's not just one

Either top gear or droptimizers

[radiant plank]

well link one

[south kayak]

Lmao

[south kayak]

Not bad

[radiant plank]

earn your yellow @sullen dove

[sullen dove]

explosion

[honest trail]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ayufZiaubGLY4nKZGfTNp8

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-explosion-cat-explodes-cat-gets-blown-away-gif-11696791805398007196

[radiant plank]

ah you have pbox

[south kayak]

Why 6 mins

[honest trail]

raid

[south kayak]

Ok

[radiant plank]

pbox on use hard dr's your mastery

so it doesnt want mroe

[honest trail]

5, 6, same

Mm

I know it's lot of Mastery & it does siom higher than the resst

But idk if I wanna use it in raid

Cast is meh

[radiant plank]

Also

[south kayak]

The cast isn't that long

Just use it pre pull and then charge

[radiant plank]

your gear also has a shitload of mastery

like nearly every slot is mastery + x

no wonder it wants haste

[odd crater]

Somehow my gear is dominantly Haste/Crit with Mastery 3rd x.x

[pure breach]

It’s thane good or decent for 1st boss on mythic ?

[honest trail]

But I have 900 haste alrdy

xD

& only 600 mastery

[south kayak]

Should be

I'm not sure though

[odd crater]

I managed to keep up with a Thane on equal iLvl in M10's, was noice

Slayer liiiife

[pure breach]

I’m not getting used to slayer ngl

[wispy slate]

Is slayer now preferred for m+?

[south kayak]

No but you can play it

[odd crater]

You give up trash DPS for ST DPS. YMMV based on the M+

[echo rapids]

How do people get good parses on the dragons? Our warlocks all went aff and are crushing it with seed 😑

[radiant plank]

tell your warlocks to respec destro

and hit cd's on orbs

like the logs on lorrgs.io

[digital mauve]

Good question

What do you mean by good parse ?

[echo rapids]

Clearly just better padding

[safe carbon]

hey guys would rampaging ruin be a good idea in dungeons? I gain like 30k dps in 10 targets but lose around 4k in 5 targets

[echo rapids]

Top logs doing 60k on just the void orbs is impressive

[radiant plank]

Crazy what happens when you pad

and your guild lets you pad

[brittle mauve]

How come I'm seeing people enchanting weapon with the rindorei enchant vice arcane mastery? The guide still says arcane mastery.

[radiant plank]

they simmed themselves

and it said rindore better

[brittle mauve]

Oh

Smart

I forgor

[onyx linden]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pgGKshWnZBvBVEm3A9xmQW

hmm, need better trinkets

[tidal pumice]

So for u whirling voidcleaver is better than Bellamy ?

[radiant plank]

go get a puzzyB

[dry hawk]

I logged out in prot, but my last sim was
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8oLzM9d6ftMTBCLttRWX3f

[gleaming siren]

@warm crag KRIEGER IS OP

NERF

[onyx linden]

i have a champ one

[radiant plank]

WHY DOES SALHADAAR MYTHIC HAVE SMALL ADDS????

[gleaming siren]

so they can nerf Fury

[south kayak]

gg

[dry hawk]

Is that in execute?

[south kayak]

Execute? nah that's the entire fight

[deft palm]

how the hell do people get top of the dps with fury on dragons fight if the adds die in 1 sec lol

[sullen dove]

you be the one to kill them in 1 second

[south kayak]

^

[deft palm]

lol

ill try

damn mm gunters

hunters

I have a hard time on deciding when to use cds

if i use cds in the beginning i wont have it for the add phase

pain in the butt

[sullen dove]

yea u hold

[deft palm]

But they die too quick so when i pop cds i get like one thunder clap lucky if its 2

[sullen dove]

feel like they def live minimum like 3 tcs

unless this normal we talkin maybe

[calm dock]

what makes Platnimum star band better than other Mas/haste rings like Bifurcation band or ommision of light?

[sullen dove]

nothing specifically but if u have too much haste maybe it just wants you to get less

[calm dock]

i thought Has /mastery was generaly prefered ovre crit / mas

[sullen dove]

and also see #updates-midnight if it could be a potion of recklessness issue

cuz thats somethin i been fighting tooth and nail over last couple days with ma secondaries

2nd to last entry

[warm linden]

Hello, i m new as fury warrior actualy i got 242 Ilvl i start to do some M+, i m first dps on pack 90% of time (somthing like 100K dps at all pack) but in boss i m always last (30k dps) i do the same rotation just i replace thunder clap by raging blow and do thunderblast at 2 stack did i do somthing wrong to boss fight or it's normal at my ilvl ? ^^

[echo rapids]

When you have 2 warlocks playing aff and padding even better than you, they don’t

[sullen dove]

raging blow bad we hit this very not a lot

be hitting bloodthirst/bloodbath pretty much all of the time

[echo rapids]

I was holding but I was getting 2x TB plus odyns and that was it

And then boss damage was crap

[indigo arch]

anyone have an addon for spell reflect in m+? targetted spells isn't fking working

[dry ether]

yo quick question, is there a way to sim what is best for me to catalyst?

[warm linden]

yes but i realy got nothing to do manytime (out of reckless) just 2sec bloodthirst 2stack of raging or thunderclap

[sullen dove]

and execute is p hhigh

but yea eventually comes a point u will rb

and rb should be over just base thunderclap in st

so think that soundin right

[dry ether]

nvm i found it im blind lol

[chilly gulch]

Can you guys tell me how much the damage difference is between 2p and 4p?

[warm linden]

ok ok when i see some fury war have 60k+ dps in full mono i dont understand how i can improve so hard (out of 4p)

[warm linden]

yes haha but when i see a video the war get proc every 2 second, in boss fight i realy never got proc xD

[proper veldt]

since when are u unable to upgrade hc weapons when crafting a285 ilvl weapon?

[tight ruin]

Relog

[loud field]

Ye relog and it fixes it

[edgy widget]

Whirlwind supersedes them

[dry hawk]

I hope my 259 turns into a 285 just fine later this week

[sullen dove]

accidental slayer key in 11 but is ok ig

[inland sparrow]

guys where i find here a BIS list ?

[sullen dove]

wowhead but bis list kinda not real for retail wow its pmuch just simming gear as you get it to see whats the best

[inland sparrow]

what about talents ?

[sullen dove]

same place

or #dps-faq for quick codes to export without as much explanation behind them

[inland sparrow]

ok ty

[shadow maple]

i hate play with puzzle is any other option to play?

[young swan]

lots

[indigo arch]

There are, but puzzle fucks

[young swan]

go live in windrunner spire for a day

[calm snow]

Thank god lots. I dreaded when I saw AA coming back to have to play with puzzle

F that trinket

[shadow maple]

the haste 1¿

[young swan]

kroluks banner also good

if you're looking for hybrid stuff the trinket from skyreach is good too

[shadow maple]

i have the haste trinke from windrunner

[calm snow]

Anyone else excited for the 12.0.5 reap the storm changes? None of my friends play warrior and I need to share my excitement

[shadow maple]

i want to kms before play with this change

[young swan]

it sucks compared to what we have now but better than what they wanted to give us at first

so

we take those

[deft palm]

Heroic

[south kayak]

I think it's fine if they just buff Execute/SS to compensate

[pine crater]

hey guys whats more important in m+ rn leech or avoidance?

[south kayak]

Avoidance

I don't think we need any more defensives though lol

We're very durable

[subtle nebula]

yoo guys ! since i am a fur noob i don't even know where to look, so how do you guys track the "improved WW" stacks ? i am tired of mentally counting to 4 every time i Tunder clap xd

[edgy widget]

You can track it in the cooldown manager like any other buff

[subtle nebula]

hmm so i can just copy some fury warrior profile i guess

[edgy widget]

there are also a few addons that will track it similarly, if you want some fancier features, though you don't explicitly need them

[subtle nebula]

nah i am even thinking to drop most addons, feels like blizzard UI for most things is cleaner after the midnight disaster

[edgy widget]

I just use the CDM, and it works fine for me, but everyone has a preference

[frank dawn]

I really hope it’s not Slayer Strike. Unless it’s via increased proc rate I suppose, because at least that interacts with sudden death procs. I don’t really feel like the strikes need to be more of our damage than they currently are tho as a 100% passive source of damage

[south kayak]

I was thinking they could make SD proc Slayer's Strike for ST (S3 2p) but that would lead to more Reaps in AoE

[edgy widget]

could be a lot of things yeah; could just increase Executioner or Slayer's Malice to keep it Slayer specific

[south kayak]

They could also buff Unhinged, there's a knob for it lmao

[heavy folio]

Maisara trinket really sim that bad? even on 272 shows like -1.2% dps downgrade kek

[frank dawn]

Slayer Malice would be interesting perhaps, since Bloodthirst lost reap. Might re-open the RB gameplay for Slayer

[south kayak]

Doesn't BT just deal more damage? regardless of Reap loss

[calm snow]

I just want any excuse not to play thane man. Slayer is the perfect fury fantasy imo. I know I could “just play what’s fun” but I want it to be strong.

[frank dawn]

It does, but if they buffed RB a bit + Slayer malice wouldn't take a lot to change it

[edgy widget]

they could buff anything, though that doens't really help execute's value

Reap is currently propping up Execute (by way of Sudden Death)

[south kayak]

Yeah I saw a random sim and noticed that Reap does a lot for Execute damage

They're gonna have to buff Execute with that gone

[frank dawn]

I mean, what it like...doubles the damage of execute? even on single target lol

so yeah, it's a lot

[south kayak]

Casually buff Execute by 100%

[frank dawn]

SEND IT

[calm snow]

Make execute scary again

[south kayak]

It doesn't double the damage

Execute does 7% while reap does 4%

more like 50-60%

[frank dawn]

is reap really that low on single target still, I thought it was more. But haven't paid that close attention since there is like zero single target around atm lol

[south kayak]

It's not low but the one from Execute was doing only 4.4% of the damage

It wasn't double the damage of Execute, that's all I'm saying

[spare steppe]

It sims great it’s just awful to use

[lament lagoon]

im 98 hell yea

[south kayak]

oof

I remember when I rolled 98 on Fyrakk trinket

and some guy won it with 100 and then proceeded to sell it lol

[lament lagoon]

only happens to goats so i hear

[odd crater]

How many Cata charges are we supposed to have?

I used 1, got the one from PvP, but that’s it. I thought it was supposed to be 2+PvP?

[lofty seal]

i think ur right

and if you get lucky 1 piece synth from raid and youg et 4pc

[dapper kestrel]

werent we supposed to have free upgrades wep on fury? nvm just had toi relog

[odd crater]

I’m missing one then

[odd crater]

Relog if you crafted

[sullen dove]

2 cata rn

[plush maple]

That name 😭

[sullen dove]

Still have to get 2 raid pieces

Next week is third “free” cata charge

[odd crater]

Oh womp, I thought 3 cata was this week

Time to high roll tier from heroic raids tonight ig

[remote bobcat]

did u already do lfr and normal?

[odd crater]

Normal full clear, LFR I still gotta do

[remote bobcat]

my guild provided a 10stack of plate alts just to get me my 4th piece

queued into lfr

ykwim

[odd crater]

But is Vet tier worth using over Champ good slots, or Hero pieces right now?

[remote bobcat]

once you have 4 piece, you get catalyst drops from m+ and raid

[odd crater]

Well fingers crossed I get tier from guild Heroic raids tonight

[remote bobcat]

So you only use that piece for a day

until u drop a cata to swap veteran out for heroic

[vast gorge]

im still at 0/4 tier 🙁

[remote bobcat]

do u not raid?

[vast gorge]

yes but havent won any

waiting to get 1 piece before i use catalyst

[remote bobcat]

..won?

oh

im so used to talking to people in mythic rosters who do splits

[chilly fractal]

My guild I think has seen 1 piece of cloth tier

[remote bobcat]

sry

[young girder]

Anybody watching revvez absolutely kill the meters

My god

[remote bobcat]

i like revvez but i hate echo vibes i cba watching them

[chilly fractal]

I’d rather drag myself through broken glass than run splits

[young girder]

I mute the channel

[vast gorge]

yeah my guild is like 2 nights a week raiding lol

[young girder]

But watch his play. He is leading chart every boss for them

[blissful hound]

Is he really playing Fury on Vanguard

[young swan]

echo playing 6 tanks 💀

7 tanks even

[young girder]

Going tank on vanguard

[south cedar]

is there a preferred site to reference for fury builds like how prot suggests icy-veins over wowhead?

[sullen dove]

wowhead

[south cedar]

thanks muchly

[sullen dove]

idk about prot but both of those 2 are written by same person for dps warrior

Think wowhead just looks way better imo

[south cedar]

tight thank you

[young swan]

noxxic....

[undone flower]

Icy veins, wowhead prot page is weird currently

[remote bobcat]

hes asking for fury not for prot dawg

[south cedar]

mhm, but thank you for trying to be helpful regardless

[remote bobcat]

forgive him hes french

[undone flower]

mb I read soredish message before his

[south cedar]

le devastating

[young swan]

ok they swapped off the 7 tank strat

[radiant plank]

?

What innthe 7 tank strat

[young swan]

they were running 7 tanks for the first pull

[lethal star]

whats furys whole schtick?

[young swan]

im assuming testing some "weakauras"

[young swan]

being mediocre at everything

[radiant plank]

oly

[remote bobcat]

frontloaded damage, never rly shit but never rly op

[young swan]

very good at add-pad in raid

actually seems quite good in m+ as well

[eager thorn]

yea ive only been doing 10s but usually been on top for keys

feels pretty nice

[quiet geyser]

Blowing up small adds but doing 'meh' boss dam and people for some reason thinking we're OP

[echo scarab]

whats prio right here ST

[dense elbow]

If adds got HP that last exactly 1 OF bleed, that spawn so it can be hit on OF CD

We will look ok

[olive cobalt]

blast unless I'm missing something

[young swan]

blast

[blissful hound]

Fury seems pretty decent in M+ yeah

[dense elbow]

Hamstring spam d'uhh

[blissful hound]

Blasted 130k in a chill Seat without big pulls

[echo scarab]

what about raging blow is lower than thunder CLAP prio also right

[young swan]

yes

[olive cobalt]

Isn't raging blow above thunder clap in st ?

[warm crag]

Wtf

[supple sinew]

so mythic plus rewards cap at +10 why would you run anything over?

[olive cobalt]

apm maxxing

[blissful hound]

Fun

[undone flower]

Fun

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148897941883584512/1486074968256151753/laughing-emoji-dance.gif

[quiet geyser]

Out of avatar, technically yes.. but the difference is legit not even noticeable. Almost feel like its better to just press TC first to get it on cooldown and not use a rb charge and save when GCD starved

[sly bobcat]

Hamstring

[echo scarab]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lmao-lmao-emoji

[undone flower]

I don’t even have hamstring binded on every talent builds

[young swan]

seems so

[lethal star]

how does it compare to arms playstyle wise?

cause arms feels unga bunga big stick smash.

[supple sinew]

when avatar isn't active

[olive cobalt]

unga bunga but with 2 big sticks ?

so technically 100% more big sticky

[lethal star]

arms feels more big slow hits, is fury lots of big swipes?

[undone flower]

Arms feels dogshit

[quiet geyser]

So does fury slayer outside of reck/execute imo

[compact knot]

arms is no damage slow hits, fury is medium damage a lot of hits

[undone flower]

• 5 offensive CDs to Mickey Mouse using them together

[olive cobalt]

Just to be sure, should I avoid doing 2 rampages back to back under reck or is it whatever

[lethal star]

to be frank i just got tired of playing monk

[minor pendant]

is blood thurst bugged for anyone else? seems to not be letting my use on my hotbar..soweird

[quiet geyser]

Correct

[olive cobalt]

because of 4p right

[quiet geyser]

More so you have more good buttons to press 🙂

[olive cobalt]

I mean my issue is that the rage income feels very overwhelming under reck, to the point it often feels like I'm sitting at 130 for too long or a charge of BT if I follow priority

[fluid terrace]

Im leaving the Mistweaver life to become a Fury Warrior

[olive cobalt]

Then again I remember in TWW S3 you would sit at 130 rage to buff up rampage after bladestorm too so maybe it's a similar situation and I shouldn't think too hard about it

[lethal star]

im leaving windwalker to become a fury warrior

[quiet geyser]

If you use rampage every 2nd global, you shouldn't overcap

[surreal spindle]

wait what do i press then as slayer in between ramages? BL?

BT*

[quiet geyser]

Both specs you pretty much use bt/bb as much as possible

[surreal spindle]

right but should i try and avoid back to back rampages? im not parsing to bad just need to optimize getting back into m+ push and heroic push

[weak grail]

shouldn´t the upgrade for the offhand be free after crafting a myth weapon?

[quiet geyser]

For m+ just use thane.. it is miles ahead

[olive cobalt]

try to relog

[fluid terrace]

You deserve it bro

[olive cobalt]

I guess yeah

[surreal spindle]

i hate thane and suck with it but i need to practice at a later date

[drifting token]

How does one screw up thane

[weak grail]

it worked, thanks

[quiet geyser]

Thane has quite a bit of optimization, but honestly if you just smash your 4 big buttons, you'll prob do decent damage in AoE

[blissful hound]

Thane is super straight forward

Just like Slayer

[olive cobalt]

Can confirm I just mindlessly smash keys and it seem to work fine

[sly bobcat]

Do I double up or triple up my gaming diaper when pushing 14s this week?

[surreal spindle]

i like my bladestorm im a simple man but i still pull 120K plus most aoe pulls

ill give it another go on some lower keys and practice

[lunar swan]

Anyone else getting discriminated against for being fury in m+?

[compact knot]

if people discriminate you for either spec

they are automatically stupid

arms genuinely might be meta and fury isnt far behind imo

[lunar swan]

I just think warriors arent being brought for utility unless tank. May as well bring ret for more utility?

Yeah Im having no issues topping charts for being close second

So my only explanation is people think we dont fit into comps well

[compact knot]

idk war utility got hit but its still pretty damn good

[fluid terrace]

Arms? Meta? What

[compact knot]

in m+

its gross aoe

and you consistently do it eveyr pack

[fluid terrace]

Check Mythicstats. It is barely played.

[compact knot]

"mythicstats"

fake ass site

LMAO

[blissful hound]

lmfao

[compact knot]

you can go play it

[fluid terrace]

Mythicstats isn't a fake ass site, or even Raider.io, no one plays Arms bro

Copium is crazy

[compact knot]

its not the amount of players

its the actual damage man

it can have the least amount of players played and still be good

which is the case

[fluid terrace]

If high level key pushes aren't playing it, what does that tell you lol

[smoky vale]

cluegi

xd

NO ON E GOOD IS DOING KEYS RN

[blissful hound]

Its day 2 lil bro

[compact knot]

"high level key pushes"

[radiant plank]

day 2 nolifers arent playing arms = spec is dead

[compact knot]

and its day 2

[smoky vale]

every singular human is spamming 10s

[blissful hound]

Ultimately it wont matter whether you play Fury or Arms in phys comps later because you trade one thing for the other

[smoky vale]

to skyrocket past the nonraiders

[brittle crow]

wow players love fake ass websites

it true

[radiant plank]

gg im not human

[quiet geyser]

In tells me its the first week so who the fuck cares? 🤨

[radiant plank]

havnt had time to spam 10'

[smoky vale]

you said it not me

https://tenor.com/jKlxxdWzIfi.gif

[fluid terrace]

Keep drinking the copium brother

[radiant plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/873282359074627585/1274193280258674749/attachment-1-1.gif

[verbal steppe]

If on 2 tier set i get dmg up on rampage, do i get the bonus dmg on bloodthirst too?

[fluid terrace]

I'm responding to someone saying Arms is meta, yall. You can play as you wish, but Arms deff ain't meta

[smoky vale]

it is

watch

[fluid terrace]

Remind me in two weeks

[rare garnet]

arms looking strong

[chilly sapphire]

Arms is looking great on aoe, but lagging on ST -- assume that's their bne in terms of meta.

[oblique thistle]

[sullen dove]

ts so flame

[radiant plank]

baseg

honestly

idk what ppl expected

[sullen dove]

mm nerfed for this boss btw

[rare garnet]

totally fine, there is a warrior in the group

[fluid terrace]

3 MWs definitely just spamming sheiluns

[radiant plank]

its for the 3x revivals

[oblique thistle]

They're being brought for revival

[radiant plank]

which are "mandatory"

for this fight

[young swan]

mw also just brokie poo

[fluid terrace]

Oh I know, but the current "meta" for MW is literally sheilun spam

Im not even kidding you

[young swan]

benching walli for what

wasnt he like consistently top 5

[radiant plank]

2nd destro

[sullen dove]

boss prolly a lil cringe for melee idk

dodging hammer hell in the middle

and shit running out all the time missing some cleave on shield bih unless tanks like insta follow it maybe idk

[radiant plank]

I wonder why no SP here

tbh

[young swan]

yeah i wouldnt mind never doing this fight

[sullen dove]

no pad gg

[radiant plank]

revvez pov looks very chill

for this fight

[young swan]

walli's looked like aids hell

european efficiency coming in clutch

[compact knot]

psychic link is ass

spec is not good

on paladins

[radiant plank]

gg

[compact knot]

you would think it would be good

but link is worthless

[young swan]

nerfed from 65% -> 20% or whatever right

yeah very normal

definitely just because of this fight too

[compact knot]

65% would have been disgusting

on crown

they already do like 400k on opener for crown

would be like 650k lmao

[gloomy sequoia]

for weapon enchants are you guys running 2 of the rendori enchant?

[compact knot]

sim question

but 2x main stat is usually pretty solid

[young swan]

yeah i guess crown would've been yucky with p2 as well

[verbal steppe]

If on 2 tier set i get dmg up on rampage, do i get the bonus dmg on bloodthirst too?

[compact knot]

no?

it just buffs rampage damage by 10%

[verbal steppe]

Thats bullshit

[compact knot]

has noting to do with bloodthirst

how is that bullshit

lmao

[verbal steppe]

I mean bt is an upgrades rampage

Right?

With req

[compact knot]

what

[rose holly]

bruh

[compact knot]

are u talking about

[young swan]

what

[reef laurel]

huh

[verbal steppe]

Wait im dumb

As fuck

[young swan]

rampage is rampage

bt is bt

except for when bt is bb

[verbal steppe]

Wait

Show me the icon for rampage

[mild thunder]

Are you thinking of the talent?

[winter shoal]

[verbal steppe]

No

[young swan]

[verbal steppe]

Ok dumb

I thought is the other one

[young swan]

[warm crag]

you are thinking of bloodbath?

[young swan]

[verbal steppe]

Yes!!

[verbal steppe]

I thought this one upgrades in bt

[warm crag]

any multiplier for bloodthirst should work for bloodbath but bloodbath is not rampage

[verbal steppe]

In this one

Ok ty im dumb slap my ass

[warm crag]

@young swan its up we need you in the meat grinder

[young swan]

this is BT: ; in reck it upgrades to bloodbath: . Neither are rampage

[young swan]

what is this

[warm crag]

the threat is very high

[rose holly]

I was really excited to equip my Hero Track Voidclaw Gauntlets just to find out it does less than 1% of my dmg

[winter shoal]

I mean free damage is free damage

[verbal steppe]

Thank u i clap

[twilit harbor]

with the new RTS changes, does BT still have a chance to proc it or is the talent basically an AOE only benefit now?

[young swan]

only aoe benefit and only from SD and ramp

idk why the proc chance is so dogshit but whatever

[twilit harbor]

great, thanks for the clarity

[warm crag]

will sd be a proc chance or guaranteed

[young swan]

guaranteed

[quiet geyser]

Hopefully the rampage part is slop and gives chance per target hit

(IT wont)

[warm crag]

idk realistically this just plays the same as rn which is fine

[young swan]

it only says "multiple" targets so who knows what the fuck that means

[warm crag]

removing sd reaps wouldve been dented

[young swan]

i guess just more than 1

[quiet geyser]

Except no reap in st at all

[young swan]

15% is giga low for no reason

should be at least 30

and slayers strike proc rate needs to be way fucking higher

[remote bobcat]

Who were the warr players who ended up having to play unholy dk last season and this season?

[young swan]

cause we just dont have reap on ST at all anymore

[sullen dove]

you do hit ramp like 1 out of every 2 globals in cd

def more often than bt

so lower % prolly fine

15 maybe a bit too low

[young swan]

15% is still only every 1/6 ramps

call it 1/12 globals

thats ass

[sullen dove]

yea i mean 1/3 bt's you press 1 out of every.. 4 globals?

or 3

not much different i think

other than unhinged propping it up a little bit extra

[warm crag]

higher variance on procs like that sucks

[sullen dove]

yea i feel like the average is similar enough just eh

[swift palm]

It doesn’t really matter whether I craft a two-handed mace, sword, or axe, right?

[young swan]

correct

[warm crag]

is crafting still fucked

[young swan]

no idea

[calm dock]

is this like a good stat spread?

that is with potion normal mas is 34%

[sly pasture]

Slayer a little more interesting on the 3 pala fight?

[young swan]

yeah looks fine

[young swan]

no lol

[sly pasture]

But… there’s 3 of them 🤷‍♂️

Can pray for reap RNG

[calm snow]

Or just have guaranteed cheek claps on 3. Thane just too easy.

[dense elbow]

Nah, just proc uber uncrolled godmode... Reap. God.

[fleet garden]

When in doubt, clap the cheeks

[lethal star]

so what does the wowhead guide mean by in cd out of cd... stupid question ik.

[dense elbow]

In CD = inside reck/ava window

aka: When you are affected by the buff you gain from casting Avatar and Recklessness (or only Reck, if slayer)

just play RB build, reap loses to OF

[abstract vale]

actually raidbot, didnt respect stat penalties ?

[summer quail]

it just means the stat is worth the penalty

raidbots knows about diminishing returns

[chilly sapphire]

On dragons HC, hold or send cds at start?

[winter shoal]

Stat penalties don't really matter, also bis profile has just over 1000 haste and mast

[abstract vale]

ok, because Raidbot switch so fast stat actually i think for topgear

[fading sky]

Allergic 2 enchants?

[edgy widget]

raidbots (or rather simcraft) does account for this, however these penalties only apply to rating not percentage and they also don't necessarily mean that the stat isn't still best or worth having

[hollow leaf]

allergic to their prices

[fading sky]

Rings are cheap

U can take 22 mastery

• cheap gems

[hollow leaf]

real answer is I got most of this today and I just forgor

[fading sky]

Yet the red letters

🤣

Chest i get though. Hella expensive

[hollow leaf]

👍

[analog python]

Dumb question, but why do we use odyns fury right before reck/ava instead of inside the window?

[radiant plank]

cuz the initial damage is not worth it

to waste a global inside cds

dot does more

[analog python]

ty

[ionic stratus]

Does thunder clap steal deal less damage than thunder blast

[raw bone]

hey! is there a way to create a macro that avoid using double rampage?

i tried with castsequence, but im unable to make it work

[young swan]

split doer

we're the same ilvl

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-thanos-blood-thanos-all-that-for-a-drop-of-blood-infinity-war-all-that-for-a-drop-of-blood-gif-6893440671967069640

[radiant plank]

pretty sure everyone with atleast 15h of m+ is the same ilvl

[wild mural]

how he so gotdamn beeeg

[abstract vale]

ok, actually with 950/1000 Hast/mastery this drop on other stat to

[lethal star]

so if im reading it right you want to keep enrage up as much as you can with bloodthirst and rampage

then the rest is just cooldowns for burst windows?

[dry hawk]

Is arms actually good now?

[wild mural]

Yes

[broken whale]

how many globals do you get in between bt casts? It feels like its not quite 2 to me

[alpine flax]

Hi guys. quick qieston. whats the prio as thane in single target with avater reckless?

use rampage or bloodbbath?

[foggy pine]

we cannot up weapon for free after myth weapon craft ?

[radiant plank]

you can

relog

change specs

etc

[wraith wharf]

and make sure you made a strength weapon

[hollow leaf]

did the same number and it put me in green on the sheet xd

[wet comet]

quick question, is raging blow good to use ever or just BT and Ramp?

[foggy pine]

ty its good

[hollow leaf]

it's filler when you can't press bt

[wet comet]

ty!

[lethal star]

so bt is our main button for spamming and rampage is when fury is close to capping?

[hollow leaf]

ye

[lethal star]

then pop cds for burst windows?

[odd crater]

And now your gamin

[lethal star]

so is it recklessness then odyn or other way around.

[odd crater]

Odyn then reck

[lethal star]

im not sure if i like slayer or thane more.

[fringe linden]

I like Slayer, because Thunderclap doesn't make me think "Fury". And it adds a button. Here for ZUG.

[lethal star]

slayer definitely feels more boss oriented tbh.

where thane is more ad shocker 9000

[sullen dove]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/akAbG6Xf6gxMKyBBRNc2y6 CINEMA

ring acquired

[deep widget]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-gif-21643627

[sullen dove]

almost as much damage as crushing blow poggers

[lethal star]

def how it feels

[random shadow]

When you do a dungeon 10 times for either a weapon or ring and still have yet to get either

[hallow sphinx]

piggy trinket haver

[gray plume]

is it normal within slayer roation to just have moments where u have to hit raging blow or even WW? o

on training dummy i find myself in awkward spots whrere i cant cast rampage BT or execute and have to hit RB twice to keep going

[bitter palm]

bro revvez is jealous

[sullen dove]

slot me in

show them how a real warrior does damage

[young swan]

u are such a pig

[bitter palm]

i guess bro

[young swan]

spooned pig

[bitter palm]

🥄

[young swan]

gobbling out of the trough all day

[sullen dove]

im like baby spooned

[hallow sphinx]

xan spittin for once

ngl

[rancid locust]

Is the proc really meaningful?

[young swan]

blow it off

"baby spooned"

[sullen dove]

lucky vault wcyd

i solo pug grinded heroic alleria for like 5 hours

last week

i deserve that item

[dapper goblet]

xan says that but has mythic bis trinket

270 ilvl

piggy oinker

[sullen dove]

world first mythic trinket

[dapper goblet]

suckling on sense's teats

[sullen dove]

killed boss without 4set

[dapper goblet]

you know I got xan his 4 penis

carried him through dungos

[bitter palm]

blue name skyhold

silver junkrat ow2

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-lebron-lebron-james-true-nba-gif-2358803548784100453

[sullen dove]

50k dps weapon

[fringe linden]

Consensus is weapon craft is a good use of Hero Crests?

[sullen dove]

no

[young swan]

kappa chungus penis deluxe

[fringe linden]

oh.

[sullen dove]

holy gapplebees?

[dapper goblet]

righttt

[sullen dove]

on the op class?

embarrassing

[sullen dove]

only spend myth on it

[undone flower]

Consensus is hero crests on craft = int

[dapper goblet]

you know that was before my suckle yesterday right

you know i just got 4 penis last night

[bitter palm]

have u tried not abusing warrior

?

[sullen dove]

arms colossus does 200k there

[fringe linden]

Hero Crests used on Set. Got it.

[young swan]

no 4 set btw

[bitter palm]

easily

[young swan]

no abuse

[lethal star]

should i take ramapaging ruin

[bitter palm]

play colo now with 4p

it owns

[young swan]

absolutely not

[dapper goblet]

says no 4 penis but says 4 penis is 1% increase

make up your mind brown class

[bitter palm]

50k dps weapon

[lethal star]

can i geta why?

[young swan]

it sucks

it cuts your rampage damage in half

[remote bobcat]

i dont like being on DK main duty due to alleria being the boss iti s

[bitter palm]

its a dps loss talent below idk some number of targets

[remote bobcat]

what

[bitter palm]

very powerful parse

[undone flower]

Oof

[bitter palm]

lowk not even my fault just died to rot gg

fury lives there

[undone flower]

You are allowed to dispel your dot

[sullen dove]

colossus arms does 200k

[bitter palm]

y i played slayer

my fault

colossus arms warrior next time..

[lofty seal]

Is arms single target surpassing fury now

[young swan]

no

[fading sky]

Not close

[young swan]

well

it is close ish

[cinder oasis]

Is it recommended to use my first 80 myth crests on upgrading the crafted sword?

[young swan]

but only to thane

[fading sky]

And not in m+

[young swan]

the thing is, fury mostly plays thane in mythic

[fading sky]

Fury wins.multi target easiøy

[lofty seal]

What about normal and heroic where mobs die faster

[fading sky]

While keepin up st

[dry hawk]

Good luck on your crests being devoured and the weapon not being upgraded

[fading sky]

Esp thane

[young swan]

then it doesnt matter what you play

[lofty seal]

Gotcha

[young swan]

legit just play to have fun

[cinder oasis]

Oh yeah, forgot about that bug... guess I should wait

[fading sky]

Thane is very good thoygh

[lofty seal]

I hope the 12.05 slayer changes make it good too

[fading sky]

Tbh slayer somehow feels clunky

[dry hawk]

Idk if it is a person by person basis

[young swan]

yeah its ass

[fading sky]

Dno what it is

Feels like slayer needs 2 spam eb

[undone flower]

Idk if haste will fix it, but clunky yes

[fading sky]

Rb

2 work

[digital mauve]

for fury our bis trinket come fro mraid or m+?

[young swan]

slayer strikes random as fuck + no 2pc from manaforge

[young swan]

raid

[fading sky]

1 mad trinket

2 passive ones🤣

[young swan]

• no cdr from base executes

also really shit

fucks fury hard

[fading sky]

Ok thats why

[digital mauve]

Which ones?

[fading sky]

I just played it and it felt worse than season 3

[bitter palm]

thats criminal

[young swan]

vorasius trinket + gaze of the alnseer

i will avoid slayer as much as humanly possible

[bitter palm]

no 2pc from manaforge is criminal

[young swan]

that spec fucking blows

[bitter palm]

this is the worst slayer has been

in terms of gameplay

id rather play slayer arms

[fading sky]

If we played rb side

Would feel better

[young swan]

it would still be ass

[fading sky]

If rb was good

Less ass

[bitter palm]

tbh i dont like thane either on st

[elfin harbor]

I got 4pc boni

[undone flower]

You would have weird conditions for BT

If RB side

[bitter palm]

sarri apl lore

aware

[elfin harbor]

I must say the bonus os crap and boring

[fading sky]

Idc

[bitter palm]

n->arms colossus and experience greatness

[fading sky]

Bladestorm and rav needs cdr

[elfin harbor]

But i like to play fury.

[fading sky]

From am

[bitter palm]

439438% uptime on cs]

[undone flower]

I think it would be fine if it’s only scent of blood

[plain bough]

what weapon enchant are you guys using

[fading sky]

Haste-mastery

[sullen dove]

1 hero pants and officially done with m+ gg

[undone flower]

still no vers enjoyer

[sullen dove]

bro what 😭

i thought massive money was for winning the tier

gratz for them i guess getting on it early

70 bands each for killing the 2nd boss of mythic nice

[digital mauve]

I got the shoulder token on normal, I figure I will take the helm for the set but this trinket is good nah?

[sullen dove]

uh i mean... yea probably take trinket

[digital mauve]

really???

[sullen dove]

you can get tier any other place in the world + free cata charges eventually

vs a trinket everyone in the game and their dog wants

trink will be way more long term

[digital mauve]

omg

[sullen dove]

not replaced by anything ever until you maybe get mythic version of it if you raid

[digital mauve]

ok...

[sullen dove]

the aln trinket just to be clear btw

[digital mauve]

idk what to do

[sullen dove]

but there isnt another trink in there

[digital mauve]

maybe he will get nerfed?

[sullen dove]

i mean so long as you have 1 piece of tier you will get 4set next week

and next week you probably wont have a bis heroic trink if u dont pick it now

could get lucky ofc

but its imo just a way rarer item

lot more long term value

[digital mauve]

why would I get guaranteed 3 next week?

[sullen dove]

you have 1 charge for free last week, 2nd from 2k m+ score, and next week u should get another free passive one

[digital mauve]

THEN the trinket is a no brainer?

[sullen dove]

i would probably pick it immediately yea

[digital mauve]

newt wednesday is 3 set guaranteed + the token I already have?

[unkempt grotto]

Next week you should have 2 passive catslysts. 1 from rating milestone, and if youve got 1 token your 4pc is mapped out.

Windmill slam take trinket

[junior gale]

Arms doesn't want it

[rare garnet]

What’s an arms

[junior gale]

No clue

[rare garnet]

Fury has two arms

Why no 4 armed races yet

[sullen dove]

fake class then

[radiant plank]

False info bro

check bloodmallet

[unkempt grotto]

I think dks get up to 4 ish.

[radiant plank]

it got its 4th or 5th rebuild in simc

and now its bis again

:))

[bitter palm]

gg

[junior gale]

Lmao when? I did sims Tuesday.

[rare garnet]

I can’t complain having heroic gaze and heart week 2

[radiant plank]

Like 6 hours ago

[junior gale]

Well lucky for me my first vault had a heroic aln with avoidance that I took cuz nothing else was good

[bitter palm]

🥄

[junior gale]

[bitter palm]

🥄

[rare garnet]

Gaze was vault thank you very much

I feed myself

[lofty steppe]

hey guys do we get a catalyst charge next week ?

[rare garnet]

Yeah

[young swan]

should be yeah

[lofty steppe]

so if i have 1 part now from raid and the 2K rio i can already get 2p with a charge ?

[sullen dove]

if youve already done all possible tier acquisition bosses in raid i guess if u rly want to

[lofty steppe]

Yeah done LFR nm and hm

it's a dps gain so i dont rlly see why i could not

[fickle cedar]

would you catalyze a champ to a hero for ilvl (already have 4 set) ? have 3 extra cata charges

[lofty steppe]

Don't we get an achievement after having 4 piece so we can loot catalyst charge ?

[rare garnet]

Huh?

[fickle cedar]

yeah but i dont know if there's a soft cap, i didnt get any after 3

[sullen dove]

i would say only do it to hero piece if u can help it

cuz that piece will be stuck with u the entire week then

but normal is fine enough too

[lofty steppe]

Yeah but since we have the achievement, when we have 4 part its basically inficinite catalysm charge (almost) no ? idk if i missed sth