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@sullen dove yo sexy
Wallife pumping
what sims
i just did gear compare to see what both rings would sim on my char. and i couldnt find the twilight dam
does it show dmg overall on gear compare?
Ik it doesn’t on top gear thought it only would in quick sim
ooo nvm i found it
but I’m psure it’s decent like maybe 1% dmg
im a dumbass
st at least
yeah…
bro i cant afford this shit
Farm time soonge
mine stayed
raid not even out yet and i already got next raid's trinket 😂
yes u do
Wallife getting fury nerfed
when is he not 
the only thing they could/should nerf is thunder clap but boi if they don’t buff tb in compensation we will get them
Odyns cdr is great for adds on dragons
man weapons are huge I got a hero weapon drop and got my 285 crafted same time went from bottom dps to top dps in my next key lol
o yea
6 and under
@sullen dove wya
Wendy’s drive through
whats the order
Bbc double
get me a wendys chili and a pepsi pimp
Blud thinks Wendy’s got Pepsi
zamn
I think unfortunately my body is promised to some friends for a little bit when I do… wow fotm homies known for like 6 years… but surely I escape after like a key or two with them…
what toon is wallife on
gods, i have too much mastery and not enough haste
I mean.. that seems like a pretty adequate amount of both
Mastery% should be a good bit higher than haste
but also just simming as you get new gear should accurately place your stats where they need to go
any reason we go the armor leg enchant? seems really low amount of armor compared to stam
dps gain
Literally like +3 strength
from that 1 talent
I think they had to have nerfed armor for that
gain strength based on armor lul
Walli playing arms on palas
the new ptr changes got me bricked up
😔
Theyre p good ye
why the change?
but what did they change to make it that way
idk what u mean
first (right now) it's BT 20% chance and sudden death 100% chance
then it became
WW only when 3 targets 20% chance
then now
rampage 15% chance when 3 target
and sudden death when 2+ target
well that is what 8 and a half days of splits are meant to do for you...
well chat, now i have to live in nexus point till i get some rings
twin
Hey guys, instead of bracers as the second crafted item, what are your thoughts on crafting a second 2H weapon for the offhand slot? Isn't it a better use of the ilevel?
OH doesn't add a lot of damage, and would take 2 more weeks
Then you don’t get your 2nd embellishment
Hmm isn't it just an extra spark?
Another 2 hander would be 2 more sparks
I mean, an extra spark over the bracer
Sorry for my ignorance but why would I miss the 2nd embellishment?
so on the ptr, BT procs reap, but so does ramp and SD when cleaving 3+ targets? SLayer looking real good
Because you’d make a 2nd weapon
Second weapons can't have embellishments?
thats very weird... i SWEAR i saw vers when i went to transmute one of my pieces yesterday
Its also just not better and sims prove it
Most of the time the answer is always sims say this
Ah alright, thanks for that.
And second wep myth crests 
Yeah that too
True
Can you run out of myth crests if you only m+ (so vault and craft on cd) ?
With current cap
Next week it would be 300 myth-160 craft/vault
whats the raw numbers for haste and mastery?
was gonna ask for general guidelines on stats myself....is it always just follow the sims?
They spend 120 crests per week, so in 10+ weeks they will run out of myth crests, 6 if they already crafted
Yeah just take the gear the sims say to
correction without having oil on:
22% Haste, 876
41% Mastery, 976
that looks like a very normal distribution
as in standard
not normal as in bell curve
i've ended up with a run of only haste/vers dropping, oh well, you can only use what you can use
granted, i can't exactly complain about my gear, ive gotten pretty stacked
are people crafting the warblade for a reason instead of the greataxe
greataxe has more damage
also has lower so it averages out
makes sense i guess
greataxe plan is from a raid drop so hard to come by
this is why^
also every weapon type has the same dps, it's purely cosmetic
tooltip difference is just from rounding
Guys, im 257 ilvl and 2p. But im struggling at 50/55k dps every Boss fight on raids. My off hand weapon is aventurer 237 and main hand is 272. This off hand makes a big diff on dmg?
probably a part of the equation
you should craft 2h with myth asap
and get hero 2h
then probably review rotation while doing that
if ur in big aoe in reck are u rly just doing ramp clap ramp clap ramp clap until u starve
it feels so wrong cuz ur avatar lasts so much less time
cuz ur not fishing for blast procs
I guess that doesn't have an opener for ST thane
you bb if you cant ramp 
You can probably check on a sim but what I generally do is charge + pot > OF > ramp > TB > BB > ramp > (ramp or TB depending on if I got a 2nd TB) > regular rotation
In what context and with what gear
262 ilvl and the fact that BB hits likw 150-160k crits cause our talents buff it
well chat, after a string of bad luck, we had some good luck and we ramped our gear pretty good, hopefully it can carry me through my lack of skill
Are you talking about single target or aoe? During cds or not? Do you have tier or not?
Is being MR 2262 good rn?
mr?
M+ rating
Post your group for a key and see what the score of people applying is
oh
both - AOE BB to reset TB - ST BT crits doing more than ramp makin ramp kinda your filler - tier i think at time was 2 set
well, good is subjective
Like am I casual for being that rank?
in the grand scheme of things? not particularly, you can time +10s with ilvl 250 so it's giga easy
Casual is a mindset not a skill level
but if you're happy with your score then sure
its day 2, not many are pushing IO, most are chain farming 10s for gear before raids
just enjoy the ride
I need someone to call me casual to motivate me to no life
once you're a casual i will, right now you're unranked
casual im at 2659 - lets go pumper!
2.6k is basically everything at +10
I’m ilvl 264 with no tier items yet
casual im at 2696 - lets go pumper!
im happy to be proven wrong but the more i fought with it the more i realised BB is better than ramp 🙁
ITS ON! 😛
there's more to a rotation than how much damage an ability does
ramp also gives buffs, reduces cooldowns, maintains enrage
I'm working on a sim rn
I have two manaflux charges. Should I use both on hero prices for the first tier bonus or wait?
if those pieces get you your 4set
Don't use catalyst charges until you can guarantee 4p
If you have 4p then fuckin send it on whatever
100% 2 fury warriors in my team... i did it the way we should.. other was playing as BB prio... he trucked me every fight
Silm what did I do wrong
could be tons of reasons for that
i was getting beaten by a fury warrior who wasnt pressing clap on cd during avatar on mass aoe
im thinking its time i go more mastery, thoughts?
ik its a sim tech but meh
the other war was 5 ilvl lower than me...
Bro was just whirlwinding still 💀
Did you have comparable weapons, trinkets, and tier?
you linked a screenshot instead of a log
I figured it out, I copied the input for a droptimizer so it had a fuckton of profilesets
my weps were higher.. i had BIS trink and i think he had 2 set i did not at the time
let me see if i can find a fight to show
1t/5t with no tier
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ixbAgWFs6n4DeezFfPghWK and https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fWG2aeR2sAv1HhqPmA1ZD4 if you want to check my work
I just moved the rampage if rage >= 100 lines under the bloodthirst lines
kept the rampage if you need to refresh enrage lines
Yo. im kinda new. what do you guys do on blood lust to maintain high dps? I fall waaay behind on BL. usually im averge dps in raids
We aren't really a strong burst damage class, so that's to be expected
We generally catch up as the fight goes on
yes i noticed
we are constant dam rather than burst
Welcome to the world of being built around dynamic medium-length cooldowns
as opposed to?
Static, longer CDs that have higher busrt
For example, UDK
Having stronger cooldowns with set longer CDs
this is me, cant wait to play wrong and pump. because of gear. we have the best early parses. because of gear. bad player. fall off late. shame to family.
I mean
so we have higher frequency in cds througgout the fight
I am a shame to my family either way
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TnLGAzgkptV86vbK?fight=5&type=damage-done this as an example... TBF i havent exactly gone through witha fine tooth
Compare the shape of our damage profile to sub rogue's
bro im running a bunch of +10s and pretty much everyone is either 2p or 4p and im here rocking 0 tier pieces fml
Our tier isn't that important
Just get lucky 5head
execute ramps up dmg at the end
lowkey if i dont get a tier piece on this next vault im cooked
i used to be a quantitative analyst and honestly there is a lot of overlap here
Overlap between what
Get 2k M+ score and you'll be fine next week
damn sub rogue got baby burst
member when they did like 5x damage during their burst
I'm not sure what the most bursty spec rn is
probably uhdk
between analysing damage, parses, talent optimisation and financial statistics
but i dont think any spec will ever beat venthyr boomkin in sod
whats the initial burst from?
Hunter can be crazy
lust
Yeah Venth chickens was a thing
those peaks are cd's and odyns fury?
No that's unholy dk
oh
That's just the nature of their damage profile relative to ours
That's why they do a lot more during lust
A clean sin wave versus a bunch of freaking tsunamis lol
Start of alleria p1 
End of alleria p1 
useless for u
Idk it stopped reseting since today, for me
Oh they fixed it?
last noob question: if im supposed to take massacre instead of enraged regeneration, what to use as defensive during raid?
off the weekly cache
Dstance
You're definitely misplaying some things, I'd recommend watching some vods from RWF warriors or critcake and studying what they're doing compared to you. I think you're holding CDs WAY too much
oh my sweet summer child
I did so few pulls but when I checked I was at 150k at the start of p2 one pull, myabe it’s just worked just the pull I checked it tho
Dstance, Spell Reflect, Impending Victory, health pot, Rally Crying just for yourself (based), screeching at the monitor, and praying
to be honest i rarely use the defensie. sometimes i use rallying call
ok. so massacre is absolutely neccessary
It's about 1.5% IIRC
sorry about the noob questions
bit less in aoe
Yeah just say it's a healer problem
not so sure its useless, the nexus ring set is shadow damage and the gloves are shadow damage and should all proc the neck?
O yea I forgot yelling at your healers. They love that one.
oh word
bully them so they reroll dps
tier gloves?
guys do tanks exist
I do but I did my part for today, it’s your turn
ill have a look 🙂
EU? I can tank one more, fine
dam now i kinda wn get all of that
the neck alone somehow sims beterr
wonder if bug
Well actually makes since, its haste/mast
man how tf do surv hunters solo mythic fyrakk
even with almost 20 ilvls higher I can't do their ST
The sim would have the neck dmg in the report
You can check if it is proccing or not in your sim
It can sim better bc : it’s a very good neck stat wise too
did they revert the rend spread on ww?
Bring back condemn
oh
Tbh slayers lookin dope if they buff rb to compensate so we get 2 different builds
Anyone know if doing damage to alleria does damage to the shield on the simulacrum or is the shield hp seperate.
damn rampage animation is still bugged
is there a bug with wep top end? I have a hero 2h mace that 6/6 hero has less top end than my 6/6 champ 2h axe
top end and bottom end dont mattter
The different weapon types have variable weapon ranges that equalize out to the same printed weapon dps.
so max level tier always then right?
Hello friends, on wowhead it says to Rampage when at or above 100 rage, I’m finding I am not Rampaging enough compared to other warriors though. Do you just send it whenever it’s available?
no i send it when im above 100 rage
I'm not sure what that means in the context of your question and my response.
i think he means highest level craft?
if it equals the same follow tier.. always use hero over champ etc even if top end is lower on a heroic peice
by tier do you mean champ/hero/myth?
yes
A higher "tier" weapon will do more dps than a lower tier, always.
I didnt explain that properly lol my bad
Though, you dont have to choose. they dont share crests anymore.
And if you craft a myth weapon the other jhust upgrades for free.
yee yee, thanks for the info i appreciate it
i know this is an obviously subjective question and the range is gonna be kinda wide, but what kinda dps are yall getting overall for keys in the 12's
in my runs i was doing like 80-90k overall
not 12s but anything under 110k for 10s is because of tank sabotage for me
Im giga struggling on st vs other classes, aoe is np tho
ive also only been doing nexus point xenas for the past 8 hours or so
U should win most st no?
Unless outgeared or dks in particularly
Altho ive yet to craft myth wep but vs ret with same ilvl i lose st 99% of the time
Y ret just are bettrr
Sims a decent amount above us. So not much we can do there....
What a world ret being better st than fury
Thats insane
and,aoe
I know
Well i could keep up with ret in aoe
In my skyreach 10.
But lost every boss
question, which raid bosses do we want to use Thane for?
u can kinda just play it for everything and be fine
really?
are we liking this trinket this season?
can swap slayer for salhadaar and vorasius if you want
yea most bosses have adds
its numerically good but very annoying so try it out if you want and decide for yourself
probably also alleria at this point
u can't see the souls on the ground
its not doable in raid or a big pack in m+
ina st boss in m+ u can sometimes spot some
we'll try it out see if its any good
just get a WA for when a soul spawns kappa
kek
its that or a vet ancent hunger
It sims well but I found it annoying enough to use to just say it wasnt worth the few hundred dps.
I figure any gains I would see from it being every so slightly better than other trinkets would be lost by the moments of distraction.
Whats with the new update on rampage is it good?
Feels so bad seeing urself top dps but being like close to bottom on actual boss dmg lol
Reap procs from rampage in .5 patch, pretty good
No single target reap anymore means more opportunity to tune st without worrying about reap muddying the numbers up
So a little dps boost for us?
hi whats the ST Thane opener looking like? only can find mt thane opener
dont think theres an official one for thane since st isnt it's main focus but pmuch just following the main 3 priorities of dont overcap rage and thunderblast charges, and then bb when u fulfill those two
so can probably like charge > cds > rampage > tb > probably rampage cuz you have full rage again > bb > ramp/of > tb if you need to > bb > etc
maybe not perfect but a rough idea of what to look for
maybe odyns mid charge if u wanna do that a little make some use out of the charge duration since its not as big as other buttons you could hit during cds and messes up the flow a little bit
that sounds very good mate
ye was just freestyling it till this point but it was not far off
any of yall playing slay the spire 2 on the side while waiting to get into a key?
as fury main we play ironclad only tho
Rotating is best anyways
hellraiser -> pummelstrike only
Pommel Strike* 

Tbf on beta branch a bunch of that shit is harder
heared that didnt try it
It's harder to force and infinite but not impossible
Stoke rework hurts
Production is dead etc
So the new changes to slayer coming. Are they basically removing reap the storm from ever being procd in single target?
That was the takeaway yesterday yes
Is that gonna basically put thane ahead of slayer in single target
Chances are they will adjust values to compensate for the loss of Reap the Storm in single target, can't really tell much right now
They might compensate
They could also just nerf thane in compensation lol
Make both worse
4p thane so sick in keys
Is there slay in the spire 2?
sir you made my day
Cant wait to try it got tier yesterday and went to bed
Im so fat
270 and 4p cant wait to beat one hunter or lock
sorry if it's a dumb question but is there an amount of haste i should aim for/not go past?
Launched a bit ago but yep
Rule of thumb is to keep haste and mastery close to equal
Easiest is to just sim yourself and see what is better
Atm, just go str, haste/mastery and it should be good enough for government work
is re crafting bug fixed?
ty!
whats the bug
losing 80 myth crest for nothing
Anecdotal evidence but it worked fine for me two hours ago (EU)
i crafted mine two hours ago
shiiiet
oh i see what u mean by buggd now
yea i crfted mine no problem, ilvl 285
poggers
I’m stuck at Disney with my wife 😅 This season looks kinda easy in M+, no? My friends are already 2.6k even though that was their peak in past seasons. So can we just play Slayer for fun?
If your just filling vault its literally never been this easy, I would expect buff to m+ tbh. Or we will have people running 25's or something. 😁
Can a clever mind explain me why we shouldnt Rampage at < 100 rage ? Also should we wait for it to be at 100 or 130 rage ? Because sometimes I'm like at 70-80ish rage, I don't have BT, nor CB or Exécuté and I prefer to Rampage at low rage rather than a TC filler
Can someone enlighten me please ?
its just action econemy
if you arent dropping enrage nor will you overcap you lose literally nothing by casting tclap or rb
but only gain a benefit later on in your rotation by having more rage to work with instead of using a gcd to spend, you used a gcd to build without excess
Any suggestions for parsing on heroic dragons? Void Orbs get melted by my guild before they jump to a clump
its like making a batch of kool-aid that you get to enjoy later becuase you put the work in early
Soo
you go for boss damage and who cares about adds that do nothing
if anything they might be removed from logs potentially down the line
make up for it in p3 cleave
find a group that doesn't explode them
To sum up I should wait for 100 or 130 ? In the end it allows for a better damage profile to hold Rampage until thé 100 threshold?
I hold my cd so I just 2xTB + OD, maybe a TC if I'm luck
you want somewhere in the middle around 110-115
depends what spells u got
if u dont have exe or bt u send rampage
can tclap if at or sub 100
if u have exe or bt u press that first
😭 stop making me run nexus point
shoulda watched whale stream
Well if I got BT and/or Exécuté I'm good I can reach 110-130 easily, but sometimes nothing is available and I still didn't reach 100 so I just Rampage there but I don't know if 'its bad or not to do it?
all im missing at this point is just ilvl on a few pieces
and all the haste
270 in bags
267 equipped
so cool
(embell wrist still to blame)
going after seat gloves im gonna explode
rampage is still there
my droptimizer doesnt work cuz its like 5 pieces i can put on that the ring fixes
also dont want to cata normal pants this dungeon also drops heroic pants
lets get some form of loot outta here man
That's slayer no?
simply obtain the rings sillysmish
you know whats wild
Hey! Can someone help me to know what I am doing wrong https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RdmMDh9bwJjgvFAT?fight=9&type=damage-done&source=90 I am looking at those logs, and when I compare with my other (Fury) guild members I just see that in general I'm casting everything fewer times than them, but it is apparent to me where the issue is.
explode
w
I dropped puzzlebox on my first academy run this season
i acheived 2100. i also acheivesd a 1 week silence that blocks me from using group finder
I gave it to my uh dk friend cuz i aint dealing with that shit again
Wow OD top 1 ? Surprised..
it assumes 4set
skyhold yellow name toxic??????
What could you have possibly said xD
Which I dont have
a man can only get someone queing Blood Dk on a flag carry map in blitz so many times before he feels the need to explain why they ruined the entire match by existing
hey! why if we want mastery/haste our crit trinkets sim the best?
Ah pvp moment i see
for example i see that the crit plume sims better than the mastery one
i will not say slurs, i will however call them very stupid
Crit is good in aoe especially and most fights are aoe
uh i mean some preliminary things are yea as you've said you have way less casts per minute than the other guy, im not exactly sure how else to suggest fixing this other than saying hit buttons more often, you should sorta be thinking about what your next button is going to be after pressing one and can kinda 'pre spam' it a little if you want to get it off as soon as possible
And big crit is still big stat which is nice
our stats are weird rn, We want master,haste and crit
like if u just hit rampage and you see bt/bb coming off cooldown you can hit rampage and then just start pressing bb and itll go off things like that
the other warr is also way more enchanted than you which can be pretty significant
not the sole reason for the gap of course but if you have the gold it would certainly lessen it
ok, so we basically want anything that isnt vers
i just use the robot for i am not that smart
I feel like every class hates mastery this season what happened lol
particularly tho your weapons are alot lower than him would try to craft a spark weapon if you can unsure if you have 4 sparks yet or if you have another issue with trying to get it crafted like mats/finding a crafter
would suggest u can also plug your log into wowanalyzer and it should give a similar breakdown of some of the simpler fixes you can try to do with rotation and uptime and stuff
@winter shoal did you update wowA yet 
yes
If everything minus Ranging Blow and Rampage is on cooldown, but I have just the rage to cast it (do 80), should I cast it?
Did anyone do any mythic raiding yet? How puggable is the first boss :D
yea if all your spells are on cooldown and nothings up then you just hit rampage
got a question cos i just cant wrap my mind around it , i know puzzlebox is nice in m+ but as it doesnt align with ava and reck , is it worth using if my other trinkets sim just like half a percent or 0.1-0.2% lower? personaly i feel puzzlebox just breaks the rotation in my brain and i fuck it up
you didnt seem to waste "too much" more rage than the other warrior
you just seemed to generate way less
How did you notice that?
if it sims really close then no issue just using what you like. puzzyb is used under specific conditions and with that being the case using the other trinket will probably be a realistic damage gain
so i think just number 1 really try to hit your buttons a lot more often if you can
@sullen dove btw parsing dépends on the ilvl? Like aligning cds and knowing the boss by heart asides, just mmbeing enchanted and having more ilvl gonna mechanically increase the parse you get ? Or is it normalize depending on your ilvl and your group (the time it took to kill the boss)?
and also work towards a spark weapon if you can help it + some enchants if you have the gold for it, but would say only enchant normal/hero pieces atm
Very good advice everything. Thank you!
thank u brother also sorry to hear u cant q up dungeons 😭
yea having better gear ofc means you do more damage = parse higher almost all of the time
I wasnt using stone idol last season for this exact reason so i think ur fine using others
there are ilvl parses to show how you did compared to others in your ilvl bracket, so you can have like a 60 parse at 250 ilvl but have like a 90 ilvl parse, as in "you did well for people in your ilvl, but your ilvl is still just really low so you did bad compared to every player with all gear ranges"
ilvl is irrelevant
there is also so much useless pad in this raid that people who rank 1 are realistically having their raid friends not hit the adds so theu can just feed on them
at least idol was 1.5 and not 2 , some things couldve been align there , but puzzlebox being a 10 days cast just annoys me
so are we supposed to click cleave in the paladins fight if theyre 2 target
or never
Idk idol just fucked with me i hated it so much
for filler*
if MS is on CD p sure you still cleave
ya cleave op
oh oops lmfoa
What cleave? We clappa cheeks here
had it macro-ed into ava and reck and it did the same to me in the start , was wondering what was intrerrupting me from movin g=))
So what's relevant here ? Parsing compared to everyone or just looking at the parsing in your ilvl range ? By default, what scénario is it when I look at my parses?
yea it helps to have the most gear you possibly can but if you dont you can still see if you "personally played well" by looking at ilvl parse
they're still p meaningless and dont show up on your logs front page but can get some personal satisfaction
but yea ideally just try to get more gear and when you got the gear get some more
true
Where can I see it ?
i greifed so hard on my imp kill
this one looks wack cuz new log
had my aoe prio mixxed up didnt BB enough
Thanks
yo , quick q , why does my crit sim so high as fury , is it because i have high mastery and haste ?
isnt it better to go for versa than crit ?
I figure I dont respect the 100 Rampage threshold and don't use TC at 6+ targets, only to apply cleave + not aligning cd with the adds on raid boss => which get me stuck on 50-60 parse range
yea optimal pad gonna be deciding factor on a lot of fights
But I find it difficult
jus gotta see how ppl play and try to copy em
like holding cds every set of adds first boss after using on pull
Especislly on Salheedar when tank doesn't approche boss towards orbs so no cleave or on dragons when orbs die quickly so if you don't have your cds it's basically gg
yea i mean salhadaar is honestly the least pad boss
you can maybe get a little bit
and that depends on rly good tanks
but that one quite specifically is jsut executing st rotation as best you can
on the plus side most of mythic is ending up being thane like i redicted
way less annoying to play then slayer
thane alleria kinda poopy..
Really?
we missed the arrow i think 4 times on the same mob on our kill
Saw Crit do Alleria on Thane was pretty good?
had legit no damage amps for all of p1 and those mobs count as bosse sfor the boss damage parse
joever
i think its just like not enough opportunity to pad
especially as ppl get more and more gear
they just die so fast
might be better in a worse group
So the people who did the boss first week and a got parse had a unique opportunity that other won't have cuz things die so fast ? That's bad
but once guilds do that boss on like 275+ adds just disintegrate
i mean youll still parse higher later on
well no parses always fluctuate
people that kill the boss first have a 100 parse doesn't mean they did the best they possibly could have
consistant performance will bring consistant results
playing for parsing will make you make more mistakes
the boss dmg you gain from 30 ilvl should crush any aoe you can do week 1
I'm new to this all' parsing thing so I'm trying to understand how it works
yea its just ppl doin as much damage as they possibly can on every boss
if theres adds that usually means do a lot to adds
but good boss dam still significant
just watching someone play the class to see how they use cooldowns or what they do on bosses can be pretty helpful
like it seems critcake is gonna raid later today by stream title so if ur around probably worth a decent watch since he'll prolly continue to parse like a monster
or if u cant catch live im sure he has vods maybe
Yeah I'm regularly watch Crit vod to get a sense of the posiitionning and timing of cds
ya thats good
But the thing is
His group just do things better
Like align the orbs on the dragons perfectly to cleave
Or on Salheedar with the orbs so WE can cleave
yea for sure better team can be rly helpful too
though its not as though its impossible to still do well despite that
well you just arent going to parse as well if the group isnt doing those things
so all you can do is improve what you can
like even if half of the orbs arent near you as dragon you can still hit a ton with thane cds
and they somewhat group up eventually
unles your group is like full spread
should still be plenty possible to do pretty well on that boss
For exemple on the dragons orbs, before they got all grip together, I'm usually hésitant to just TC and wait for them to align. So I waste time and they die, barely have Time to 2xTB + OD that if I have my cd...
if you group does less damage then you have more potential to do dmg to them
yea no i just spam tb the moment they spawn
Ok good to know
unless ur group is like literally sperad out across the entire floor you should still be able to cleave like 60%+ of them the moment they spawn
and because tclap is about as strong as tblast
its ok to aoe the moment they spawn and just keep spamming till they all die
that is kinda the play
like the person whos gonna rank 1 on the dragon fight
is going to tell his entire raid to not damage them
and he will literally wait til they are all grouped and do 1 gorillian damage
you cannot compete with that level of degeneracy
Guys is fury Kinda insane in keys ?
yea rank1s are effectively never attainble
True
fury is good in keys, but the playstyle is different to classes with actualy CDs
This has to be lucky as fuck
My goal is to achieve at least 90's on all boss
but think a respectable purple or even orange+ can be done by anyone really trying to get it
thats a big boi ring right there
assuming u just have up to date gear
90s should be obtainable without degen stuff
just need the gear to do the dam and play well
early on you are competing with freaks like me that are giga juiced
256 without the upgraded weapon cuz didn't do 9s yet, and didn't took the helm heroic set from the vault yet too
Fully enchanted
Yeah I figured it's more difficult now than it will be in 2-3 weeks but still tryna improve at what I do
yea this early in a season the degens will go insane with gear way faster than normal ppl
so while u might be slightly behind u know what u need to do right craft a massive mythic weapon, farm some m+, and within a week or two ilvl should pretty quickly even out between everyone putting in effort
like in the time it takes us mfs at around 270 to get maybe 10 more ilvls you could get 20 more
alright bed time gn smorbsmish gl on ring
but yea can try the dragons tip of just aoe the moment they spawn and that should boost that one up by a lot at least
and salhadaar is just gonna be a lot more of how well you can do single target
cleaving orbs helps a little bit but its extremely unlikely any top log has more than like 5-10% of their damage on that orb i'd think
since their health is so low compared to the boss
ok i dont have the ring yet but i think this cape tipped the scale enough to lose some haste to let me wear voidclaws finally
I'll try thanks mates for the advices
yuh gl
my god it barely wins out with a r1 mastery flask
1 unlucky hunt proc and its gg
yeah i just swapped to lights poteitial for now
oh actually if i oil both weapons haste now wins
gg
time to whip out the attack power stones
need this ring deadily now
2pc dmg and get like +100 more mastery while keeping haste the same
What’s the fastest way to get 80 crest myth for recrafting?
do dungy
ya
do a t11 delve (maybe has to be bountiful) for cracked keystone quest for free +20 quest but then otherwise yea just +9 dungeons or higher
Thank's !
1.8k dps to swap a single enchant :icant:
are you still simming with that fuckass reck pot
will not be subscribing to big strengtha
if i get this other ring i never have to worry about it for the rest of my life
im psure
10x bonus rolls on stupid ass shadow gloves
i fear to farm hero track
i did too but got it after like 3rd dungeon thank god
thats proly why im not getting ring tho

silence lowkey saving me
1k dps ring upgrade 
My brain is not working atm, can someone pls explain what the new changes do for singel target? ”creates room for singel target execute buffs”
Aoe = spam Rampage / execute (ID procs)?
yea you're pretty much already playing like this anyway in slayer aoe currently
aoe rotation for slayer should almost not change in the slightest except maybe slightly more exe prio over bt since its getting removed from bt
but they're about pressed on cd anyway
do u ever go ER over massacre ?
its just yea reap completely gone from single target which means there hopefully will be some compensating buffs for slayer in st
but slayer aoe this looks like a pretty solid W for now, much better than what it looked like a week ago
if u need help to live stuff sure
its not an egregious dps loss, thane can def lose massacre without much issue though as slayer you might drop wrath and fury instead
since exe just does more for slayer
this one is nice to have but you rarely hit rb anyway so its not a huge loss
Buffing Execute and SS would be cool
Ty 🙏 @sullen dove
🫡
thane is also naturally tanky becuase of its additional 8% dr. and spamming bt all the time is a constant source of healing
smorb do you have heroic gaze or something how are you simming higher them me
im supposed to be sleeping right now what am i doing
Are you newly yellow Soredish
only normal gaze
You're Swordish right?
and yea just a couple days :3
as a non tier gamer, how big is 2/4 set for us? like obviously we want it
ya
gimme you sim
Ok
smorbsmish helpful
Damn
4%ish on st but a bit more valuable in aoe
especially on padfest bosses like dragons its probably decently significant there to odyns every set
but not like make or break a parse odyns itself is still slightly baby
o ya easily, its capable tho other classes can also just aoe a ton too
like boomies i think are also insane at it
Starfall?
not to mention destro locks could just demolish your pad by sheer 2target boss dmg they can do
probably idk what chickens do
fury's definitely a high contender but if you have good players on some of these other specs its not necessarily in the bag
oh you have cantrip neck with multiple shadow procs as well
Yeah destro 2 target damage is crazy
you dont have because 
yeah that'd explain it
yea im gonna quick sim see how much dmg it does
main issue being rn im probably just gonna take the bracers from first boss mythic
then craft a cloak at myth instead
havent been able to use it cuz couldnt put on void gloves
ya prolly fine tho doesnt a boss drop cape too early on
or maybe bad stats but eh
its crit vers
so you could have 2 well statted pieces then make the bracers later
maybe with ring 2set it procs alot more tho too
well it adds up
yea
.6% from both of those
ik the ring 2set is actually kinda nuts
gajeel had it do like 1-1.5%ish by itself on single target in a dungeon i think
free shitty trinkets worth of dmg just for having 2 rings
could be the play long term tbh
assume it would be
since we do like crit just shuffle some stats around
buuuuut the last boss ring is kupo crazy
i just rly hope i get it before raid man..
what happeend to sleeping 1h ago both of you
but i think i have to clock in in ff tomorrow for like 2 hours
maaaaaan
i dont want to prog shitwurm
got to yappin
ff pash insta died since expac
oh you havent finished 12 yet
hell na
my friends took like 3 weeks after killing tyrant before deciding to actually zone into the boss
but yeah i sim around 84ish
which started like last week into this week
so 3 cantrip effects would make that dif up
yea lil bit
i have heroic vorasius but cant upgrade till 2 266 trinks need 1 more
i thikn i dont even send past 266 tho since could just get mythic
early easy boss just win from vault or loot council early surely
guaranteed ish waste of crests
and the chance i get it prob high
i think we gonna try chimerus
which hopefully we can do cuz ngl only 3ish pulls tn didnt look taht bad
but idk
we will prob go voracius then chimerus
got to like 62% floundering around like maniacs
got vori down to like 18% or somethin with a bunch dead
yea i think vori is probably way more of a gear check
somehow
chim seemed kinda easy if you just survived the mechanics
but idk
made it to intermission once with like 5 ppl dead
then kinda insta died to a 1 sec fear cast lol
will actually be so unbelievably girthmaxxing to kill that boss tho
mythic aln trinket in vault perma? yes sir
hopefully can do in 3 and a half hours surely
Madox and Soredish chat
I wish I was a based gamer
may the tooth fairy grant me my ring please
me when i talk to my friends
realgi
thankchu
Have you guys killed any mythic bosses
go watch critcake
just first
boss 1 dead boss 2 dead p soon and 1 boss prob also dead very soon
no shoulder piggy funnel unfortunate
yea idk vorasius depends how quick chim dies if it can die
but id be more than happy to just kill chim
rly need to kill halleria on my lock too for trinket...
but later
hi all, just gearing up atm but wondered if anyone can crit my current gear
assume that means critque?
yes please
nothing looks horrible i think, maybe try to drop some verse into more mastery but otherwise would say just hop in some keys to get some ilvl
but sim items as you get them to see if attempting to stat swap in that way is good
ah ok will do, thanks!
u can also craft a veteran crest embellished wrist for no sparks if you want thats prolly better than anything else u could get rn but you will be able to spark craft it next week so not a massive priority if not worried about it
ok real bedge time
ah yea so I used 4 sparks already on a crafted weapon as recommended by wowhead, but I'll go for those wrists next
yea any pieces out of like belt/boot/wrist/cape are all pretty good for embells
madox might be cookin tho ngl with crafting cape since first boss mythic bracers are kinda cool..
ok
o7
sleep well matey
What the ilvl our weapon craft will be with 80 myth crest?
285
Hi all! I have a very basic question but I’m struggling af. I cannot for the life of me survive and solo encounters that have a lot of ground aoe like the nightmare prey knight errant death knight in eversong this week or the consul nebulor prey last week. How do I get better?
Be ready to use def stance, stuns, slows or other cc. Health potions are fine shit too
Gotta invest in some health pots then. Will work on getting better with the CCs. Thank you ☺️
hmm fury still needs buffs for raid man 😄
Yup
Problem is there is not a lot of gear around yet
So we eat good padding on adds
Logs still show us as good but will drop soon
I dont think we ll get buffed soon as m+ we are doing decent so maybe pray 12.0.5
Decent design changes coming
anyone got some tips how to maximize thane build? like specifis on rotation?
how big are the dps gains in st and aoe with t-set for fury ?
I for the love of god cant get slayer rotation right, I always do more dps as thane on ST in raid, makes me angry
Okay, sorry to repeat myself, but I asked a question yesterday and fell asleep, so I don't see the answer. Does the priority of Odin's Fury increase with the 4-piece set? Thanks, guys!
Press odyn on cd
Above all else, right? The only thing that would have more priority is having 130 rage, I suppose.
Sure there are times where you press something else, but good rule of thumb is to press it on cd
Kick the life drainer or run away with enabling war mode. Stay in spots with mobs, so you kill fast plus can heal yourself. Use shockwave, kick and storm bolt frequently
u can use the pots u get from opening chests in the world , it gives 50% hp
Thank you for the tips friends! Gonna stock up on health pots and also throw in the potion of light’s preservation for a bit of dmg mitigation! Thank you again ☺️

JA CLAPPA
Pots are on 5min cd though, the bastard has time to ambush u 3 times 😜
Gotta look into enchants as well it would seem haha. Fury ain’t an easy class to play solo XD
if anything spec into enraged regeneration , its 30% dmg reduction , spell reflect is 20% reduction
mastery on rings 5g on ah = dmg
We lost ignore pain as arms right
The dude was asking about nightmare preys
i cant read mb
no its just on the same node as fbv
so we never play it
its also insanely undertuned
its like 15% of ur health
on a 20s cd
its awful
idk in tww it was useless as well
DF then
in df u could play both iirc
Tank lvl ignore pain on arms
both fbv and ip or im misremembering
but ip had dps value in s1 and s2
or only s1
i think it was both s1 and s2
Yeah for fucking ToM
the 40 rage counted towrads am tom and tactician
does fury still take mastery on AA?
Yo guys, is it safe to recraft now? Or is it still bugged?
I did last night and was fine
how is slayer vs mountain thane in m+?
yeah, just hear there is a chance that it eats your crests
We lost everything
Plate class feels like made out of paper
Other than Crit what other good fury warrior upload it's vod on ytb?
Wdym we have like 18% baseline dr in keys
is there a reason why Crushing Blow/Raging Blow is missing here?
Anyone have a good reflect addon yet?
When I compare myself to some cloth classes like spriest or warlock, I just get pissed about how much tankier they feel
yes, on aoe u never press them
WW/Rend/TB has higher prio than Blow on multiple targets, so you just fill with that
rend is aoe
if u dont press anything before the damage yes arms is squishy
New Fury main wannabe here. Is there some addon that will make an icon or something popup on my screen letting me know i have enough rage to use rampage? I currently feel like i’m spending more time looking at my action bars than what i’m fighting… or if there is some other way to counteract this?
Default UI has red streaks on the screen as an indicator unless they removed that
Yeah those are honestly pretty good and feel like enough most of the time
Im generally having a much easier time staying alive in midnight m+ than tww
Also, is there any fight that is worth switching to arms in raid rn ?
The paladins
do we just send all hero crests this week?
True warrior are slayer fury
If slayer didnt giga blow to play while only being slightly better on pure ST, i would love to
whoever the person responsible for warrior design is, they need a spanking
u cursed slayer with sd wa idea in tww
I see what you did there
was it actually me that started that entire thing
i guess it mightøve been lol
I was a slayer stan until now.
shit im the reason for our downfall
No just in head/pants/trinkets

If you wanna min max and have a 266 or higher
Slayer is decent for M+
chest too no
Why do y think slayer blows 2 play?
No chest you jave alleria hc
Or chima mythc
So i would hold at least till reset
For chest
Apart from way less bladestorms than we used 2
true
If that progress is off from you then yes chest too
its a significantly downgraded version
compared to tww
It's feel so better to play slayer than Thane for me
im pressing fucking rend instead of rb
its just much worse to play and rend sucks
Rend game play sucks
rend and wrecking throw
I only rend if my rb is on cd
Yeah its a mess
avatar owns as thane
finally its a real cd
i dislike the ramp tc spam in mass aoe tho
But im last in details in first 3 bosses xd
True warrior are bladestorming !
Thane sort of plays like tww thane did and that was pretty good
Cant toucj a freaking add
slayer giga blows for both arms and fury
its straight up better tww
and colossus is a fucking abomination
cause cds feel like a cd
Yup thane feels good
