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flat river
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RAMPAGE SPAM ANGLE

gleaming marlin
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@sullen dove yo sexy

zenith moat
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Wallife pumping

gleaming marlin
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are the nexus point rings not showing up on sims?

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like the 2 set bonus?

sullen dove
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what sims

gleaming marlin
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i just did gear compare to see what both rings would sim on my char. and i couldnt find the twilight dam

sullen dove
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does it show dmg overall on gear compare?

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Ik it doesn’t on top gear thought it only would in quick sim

gleaming marlin
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ooo nvm i found it

sullen dove
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but I’m psure it’s decent like maybe 1% dmg

gleaming marlin
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im a dumbass

sullen dove
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st at least

gleaming marlin
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its like 0.8%

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@sullen dove actual poverty no tier or trinkets

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and no enchants

sullen dove
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yeah…

gleaming marlin
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bro i cant afford this shit

sullen dove
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Farm time soonge

gleaming marlin
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the enchants are like 60k

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do yk

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if

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i catalyze

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will i keep the enchant?

thorny basin
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mine stayed

hybrid yew
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raid not even out yet and i already got next raid's trinket 😂

sullen dove
gleaming marlin
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aight

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ty

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till vault

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im just holding

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my shit

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ig

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.

zenith moat
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Wallife getting fury nerfed

sullen dove
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when is he not critcake

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the only thing they could/should nerf is thunder clap but boi if they don’t buff tb in compensation we will get them

zenith moat
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Odyns cdr is great for adds on dragons

thorny cove
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man weapons are huge I got a hero weapon drop and got my 285 crafted same time went from bottom dps to top dps in my next key lol

sullen dove
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o yea

gleaming marlin
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@sullen dove curious

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when is spamming TC bad

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when its like 3 targets?

sullen dove
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6 and under

hallow sphinx
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@sullen dove wya

sullen dove
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Wendy’s drive through

gleaming marlin
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whats the order

sullen dove
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Bbc double

hallow sphinx
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get me a wendys chili and a pepsi pimp

sullen dove
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Blud thinks Wendy’s got Pepsi

hallow sphinx
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Richard gets a pepsi with his wendys chili

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so do i

sullen dove
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zamn

hallow sphinx
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when back

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alice needs keys

sullen dove
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I think unfortunately my body is promised to some friends for a little bit when I do… wow fotm homies known for like 6 years… but surely I escape after like a key or two with them…

gleaming marlin
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what toon is wallife on

hybrid yew
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gods, i have too much mastery and not enough haste

sullen dove
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I mean.. that seems like a pretty adequate amount of both

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Mastery% should be a good bit higher than haste

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but also just simming as you get new gear should accurately place your stats where they need to go

rare garnet
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any reason we go the armor leg enchant? seems really low amount of armor compared to stam

hallow sphinx
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dps gain

sullen dove
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Literally like +3 strength

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from that 1 talent

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I think they had to have nerfed armor for that

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gain strength based on armor lul

rare garnet
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ahhh

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totally forgot about that shit lol

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thanks soredish, no wonder you're yellow

zenith moat
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Walli playing arms on palas

sullen dove
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goatknees takes all the credit

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of course he is

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based asf

flat river
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the new ptr changes got me bricked up

hallow sphinx
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😔

keen kindle
flat river
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rampage spam

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ramage spam finally is back

upper mica
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why the change?

flat river
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cause outrage

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why WW make us spin more

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now it's rampage and sudden death

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:D

upper mica
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but what did they change to make it that way

flat river
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idk what u mean

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first (right now) it's BT 20% chance and sudden death 100% chance

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then it became

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WW only when 3 targets 20% chance

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then now

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rampage 15% chance when 3 target

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and sudden death when 2+ target

gleaming marlin
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holy fuck

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wall

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is BIS'ed out

sullen dove
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well that is what 8 and a half days of splits are meant to do for you...

rare garnet
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well chat, now i have to live in nexus point till i get some rings

sullen dove
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twin

little gust
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Hey guys, instead of bracers as the second crafted item, what are your thoughts on crafting a second 2H weapon for the offhand slot? Isn't it a better use of the ilevel?

rare garnet
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OH doesn't add a lot of damage, and would take 2 more weeks

slim coral
little gust
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Hmm isn't it just an extra spark?

slim coral
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Another 2 hander would be 2 more sparks

little gust
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I mean, an extra spark over the bracer

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Sorry for my ignorance but why would I miss the 2nd embellishment?

inner zinc
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so on the ptr, BT procs reap, but so does ramp and SD when cleaving 3+ targets? SLayer looking real good

slim coral
little gust
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Second weapons can't have embellishments?

nocturne bluff
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thats very weird... i SWEAR i saw vers when i went to transmute one of my pieces yesterday

slim coral
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Most of the time the answer is always sims say this

little gust
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Ah alright, thanks for that.

undone flower
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And second wep myth crests critcake

slim coral
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Yeah that too

little gust
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True

undone flower
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Can you run out of myth crests if you only m+ (so vault and craft on cd) ?

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With current cap

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Next week it would be 300 myth-160 craft/vault

random shadow
south barn
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was gonna ask for general guidelines on stats myself....is it always just follow the sims?

undone flower
slim coral
hybrid yew
winter shoal
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that looks like a very normal distribution

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as in standard

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not normal as in bell curve

rare garnet
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i've ended up with a run of only haste/vers dropping, oh well, you can only use what you can use

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granted, i can't exactly complain about my gear, ive gotten pretty stacked

sullen tendon
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are people crafting the warblade for a reason instead of the greataxe

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greataxe has more damage

upper mica
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also has lower so it averages out

sullen tendon
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makes sense i guess

modest condor
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greataxe plan is from a raid drop so hard to come by

smoky vale
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this is why^

modest condor
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also every weapon type has the same dps, it's purely cosmetic

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tooltip difference is just from rounding

chilly gulch
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Guys, im 257 ilvl and 2p. But im struggling at 50/55k dps every Boss fight on raids. My off hand weapon is aventurer 237 and main hand is 272. This off hand makes a big diff on dmg?

smoky vale
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probably a part of the equation

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you should craft 2h with myth asap

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and get hero 2h

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then probably review rotation while doing that

chilly gulch
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What the best opener for ST Thane?

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Where i can see this

brittle crow
# sullen dove 6 and under

if ur in big aoe in reck are u rly just doing ramp clap ramp clap ramp clap until u starve
it feels so wrong cuz ur avatar lasts so much less time

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cuz ur not fishing for blast procs

winter shoal
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I guess that doesn't have an opener for ST thane

winter shoal
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You can probably check on a sim but what I generally do is charge + pot > OF > ramp > TB > BB > ramp > (ramp or TB depending on if I got a 2nd TB) > regular rotation

upper mica
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ive found spammin BT/BB is actually better deeps over ramp atm

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which is nuts

winter shoal
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In what context and with what gear

upper mica
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262 ilvl and the fact that BB hits likw 150-160k crits cause our talents buff it

rare garnet
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well chat, after a string of bad luck, we had some good luck and we ramped our gear pretty good, hopefully it can carry me through my lack of skill

winter shoal
obtuse sentinel
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Is being MR 2262 good rn?

modest condor
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mr?

obtuse sentinel
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M+ rating

winter shoal
modest condor
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oh

upper mica
modest condor
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well, good is subjective

obtuse sentinel
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Like am I casual for being that rank?

modest condor
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in the grand scheme of things? not particularly, you can time +10s with ilvl 250 so it's giga easy

winter shoal
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Casual is a mindset not a skill level

modest condor
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but if you're happy with your score then sure

rare garnet
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just enjoy the ride

obtuse sentinel
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I need someone to call me casual to motivate me to no life

rare garnet
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once you're a casual i will, right now you're unranked

upper mica
modest condor
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2.6k is basically everything at +10

obtuse sentinel
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I’m ilvl 264 with no tier items yet

rare garnet
upper mica
upper mica
modest condor
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ramp also gives buffs, reduces cooldowns, maintains enrage

winter shoal
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I'm working on a sim rn

obtuse sentinel
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I have two manaflux charges. Should I use both on hero prices for the first tier bonus or wait?

modest condor
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if those pieces get you your 4set

winter shoal
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Don't use catalyst charges until you can guarantee 4p

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If you have 4p then fuckin send it on whatever

obtuse sentinel
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Ok

upper mica
winter shoal
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Silm what did I do wrong

modest condor
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could be tons of reasons for that

random shadow
modest condor
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i was getting beaten by a fury warrior who wasnt pressing clap on cd during avatar on mass aoe

random shadow
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im thinking its time i go more mastery, thoughts?

modest condor
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doesnt mean he was playing right and i was playing wrong

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he just had better gear

random shadow
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ik its a sim tech but meh

upper mica
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the other war was 5 ilvl lower than me...

obtuse sentinel
inland flame
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Did you have comparable weapons, trinkets, and tier?

modest condor
winter shoal
upper mica
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my weps were higher.. i had BIS trink and i think he had 2 set i did not at the time

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let me see if i can find a fight to show

winter shoal
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1t/5t with no tier

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I just moved the rampage if rage >= 100 lines under the bloodthirst lines

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kept the rampage if you need to refresh enrage lines

tawny sonnet
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Yo. im kinda new. what do you guys do on blood lust to maintain high dps? I fall waaay behind on BL. usually im averge dps in raids

winter shoal
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We aren't really a strong burst damage class, so that's to be expected

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We generally catch up as the fight goes on

tawny sonnet
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yes i noticed

upper mica
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we are constant dam rather than burst

inland flame
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Welcome to the world of being built around dynamic medium-length cooldowns

tawny sonnet
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as opposed to?

keen kindle
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For example, UDK

inland flame
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Having stronger cooldowns with set longer CDs

rare garnet
keen kindle
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I mean

tawny sonnet
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so we have higher frequency in cds througgout the fight

keen kindle
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I am a shame to my family either way

upper mica
winter shoal
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Compare the shape of our damage profile to sub rogue's

spare flame
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bro im running a bunch of +10s and pretty much everyone is either 2p or 4p and im here rocking 0 tier pieces fml

winter shoal
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Our tier isn't that important

inland flame
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Just get lucky 5head

tawny sonnet
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execute ramps up dmg at the end

spare flame
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lowkey if i dont get a tier piece on this next vault im cooked

tawny sonnet
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i used to be a quantitative analyst and honestly there is a lot of overlap here

winter shoal
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Overlap between what

keen kindle
modest condor
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damn sub rogue got baby burst

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member when they did like 5x damage during their burst

winter shoal
modest condor
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probably uhdk

tawny sonnet
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between analysing damage, parses, talent optimisation and financial statistics

keen kindle
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It's ty pically UDK

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All burst and a tank outside of it

winter shoal
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xdd

modest condor
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but i dont think any spec will ever beat venthyr boomkin in sod

tawny sonnet
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whats the initial burst from?

undone flower
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Hunter can be crazy

modest condor
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lust

inland flame
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Yeah Venth chickens was a thing

tawny sonnet
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those peaks are cd's and odyns fury?

winter shoal
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No that's unholy dk

tawny sonnet
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oh

winter shoal
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That's just the nature of their damage profile relative to ours

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That's why they do a lot more during lust

inland flame
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A clean sin wave versus a bunch of freaking tsunamis lol

undone flower
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Start of alleria p1 sadge
End of alleria p1 erga

keen kindle
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Start of alleria p2 critcake

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I stg the dps meter resetting evrey phase is cursed

lament lagoon
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useless for u

undone flower
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Idk it stopped reseting since today, for me

keen kindle
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Oh they fixed it?

tawny sonnet
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last noob question: if im supposed to take massacre instead of enraged regeneration, what to use as defensive during raid?

lament lagoon
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off the weekly cache

winter shoal
keen kindle
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Impending victory

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Nothing

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BT

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It's a healer problem clueless

undone flower
# keen kindle Oh they fixed it?

I did so few pulls but when I checked I was at 150k at the start of p2 one pull, myabe it’s just worked just the pull I checked it tho

inland flame
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Dstance, Spell Reflect, Impending Victory, health pot, Rally Crying just for yourself (based), screeching at the monitor, and praying

tawny sonnet
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to be honest i rarely use the defensie. sometimes i use rallying call

keen kindle
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Eh yeah

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that'd make sense

tawny sonnet
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ok. so massacre is absolutely neccessary

winter shoal
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It's about 1.5% IIRC

tawny sonnet
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sorry about the noob questions

winter shoal
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bit less in aoe

keen kindle
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Yeah just say it's a healer problem

winter shoal
rare garnet
# lament lagoon useless for u

not so sure its useless, the nexus ring set is shadow damage and the gloves are shadow damage and should all proc the neck?

inland flame
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O yea I forgot yelling at your healers. They love that one.

lament lagoon
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oh word

keen kindle
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bully them so they reroll dps

winter shoal
keen kindle
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guys do tanks exist

rare garnet
undone flower
keen kindle
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I'm

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I'm on my rogue thou I'm the keyholder keks

undone flower
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EU? I can tank one more, fine

lament lagoon
rare garnet
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like, they're not "insane" but it is some extra free damage

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from my sim

lament lagoon
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the neck alone somehow sims beterr

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wonder if bug

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Well actually makes since, its haste/mast

thorny cove
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man how tf do surv hunters solo mythic fyrakk

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even with almost 20 ilvls higher I can't do their ST

undone flower
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You can check if it is proccing or not in your sim

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It can sim better bc : it’s a very good neck stat wise too

fiery edge
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did they revert the rend spread on ww?

fading sky
spare steppe
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Not yet implemented

fiery edge
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oh

fading sky
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Tbh slayers lookin dope if they buff rb to compensate so we get 2 different builds

marble pilot
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Anyone know if doing damage to alleria does damage to the shield on the simulacrum or is the shield hp seperate.

fiery edge
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damn rampage animation is still bugged

vale solar
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is there a bug with wep top end? I have a hero 2h mace that 6/6 hero has less top end than my 6/6 champ 2h axe

young swan
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top end and bottom end dont mattter

silk wharf
vale solar
weak mantle
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Hello friends, on wowhead it says to Rampage when at or above 100 rage, I’m finding I am not Rampaging enough compared to other warriors though. Do you just send it whenever it’s available?

modest condor
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no i send it when im above 100 rage

silk wharf
summer quail
vale solar
silk wharf
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by tier do you mean champ/hero/myth?

vale solar
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yes

silk wharf
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A higher "tier" weapon will do more dps than a lower tier, always.

vale solar
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I didnt explain that properly lol my bad

silk wharf
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Though, you dont have to choose. they dont share crests anymore.

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And if you craft a myth weapon the other jhust upgrades for free.

vale solar
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yee yee, thanks for the info i appreciate it

shadow helm
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i know this is an obviously subjective question and the range is gonna be kinda wide, but what kinda dps are yall getting overall for keys in the 12's

modest condor
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in my runs i was doing like 80-90k overall

young swan
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not 12s but anything under 110k for 10s is because of tank sabotage for me

fiery hare
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Im giga struggling on st vs other classes, aoe is np tho

young swan
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ive also only been doing nexus point xenas for the past 8 hours or so

fading sky
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Unless outgeared or dks in particularly

young swan
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frost should win

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same with ret

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locks

fiery hare
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Altho ive yet to craft myth wep but vs ret with same ilvl i lose st 99% of the time

fading sky
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Y ret just are bettrr

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Sims a decent amount above us. So not much we can do there....

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What a world ret being better st than fury

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Thats insane

kind crystal
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and,aoe

fading sky
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I know

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Well i could keep up with ret in aoe

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In my skyreach 10.

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But lost every boss

young swan
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yeah i dont remember aoe being a problem

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10 xenas i did earlier

hybrid yew
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question, which raid bosses do we want to use Thane for?

young swan
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u can kinda just play it for everything and be fine

hybrid yew
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really?

opaque arrow
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are we liking this trinket this season?

young swan
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can swap slayer for salhadaar and vorasius if you want

opaque arrow
young swan
young swan
fringe vale
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its not doable in raid or a big pack in m+

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ina st boss in m+ u can sometimes spot some

opaque arrow
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we'll try it out see if its any good

gleaming marlin
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just get a WA for when a soul spawns kappa

fringe vale
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kek

opaque arrow
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its that or a vet ancent hunger

silk wharf
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I figure any gains I would see from it being every so slightly better than other trinkets would be lost by the moments of distraction.

verbal steppe
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Whats with the new update on rampage is it good?

fiery hare
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Feels so bad seeing urself top dps but being like close to bottom on actual boss dmg lol

oblique thistle
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No single target reap anymore means more opportunity to tune st without worrying about reap muddying the numbers up

verbal steppe
oblique thistle
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Numbers remain to be seen

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Dont know yet

tender seal
cerulean kayak
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hi whats the ST Thane opener looking like? only can find mt thane opener

sullen dove
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so can probably like charge > cds > rampage > tb > probably rampage cuz you have full rage again > bb > ramp/of > tb if you need to > bb > etc

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maybe not perfect but a rough idea of what to look for

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maybe odyns mid charge if u wanna do that a little make some use out of the charge duration since its not as big as other buttons you could hit during cds and messes up the flow a little bit

cerulean kayak
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that sounds very good mate

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ye was just freestyling it till this point but it was not far off

eternal sundial
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@sullen dove swordfish

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Did they do myffic splits

sullen dove
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who is they

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liquid? yes

eternal sundial
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My raiding scene vro

pliant jackal
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any of yall playing slay the spire 2 on the side while waiting to get into a key?

eternal sundial
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Main game

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No wow

strange raven
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as fury main we play ironclad only tho

eternal sundial
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Rotating is best anyways

strange raven
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hellraiser -> pummelstrike only

eternal sundial
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Pommel Strike* ratge

strange raven
eternal sundial
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Tbf on beta branch a bunch of that shit is harder

strange raven
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heared that didnt try it

eternal sundial
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It's harder to force and infinite but not impossible

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Stoke rework hurts

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Production is dead etc

low folio
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So the new changes to slayer coming. Are they basically removing reap the storm from ever being procd in single target?

olive cobalt
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That was the takeaway yesterday yes

low folio
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Is that gonna basically put thane ahead of slayer in single target

olive cobalt
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Chances are they will adjust values to compensate for the loss of Reap the Storm in single target, can't really tell much right now

low folio
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They might compensate

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They could also just nerf thane in compensation lol

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Make both worse

olive cobalt
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Who knows

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Can't do much outside waiting and seeing 😔

lean heart
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4p thane so sick in keys

native wadi
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sir you made my day

native wadi
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Im so fat

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270 and 4p cant wait to beat one hunter or lock

quasi quest
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sorry if it's a dumb question but is there an amount of haste i should aim for/not go past?

jovial dagger
dense elbow
fair talon
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is re crafting bug fixed?

quasi quest
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ty!

lament lagoon
fair talon
lament lagoon
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well shiet

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too late for me howd did it wokr

upper token
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Anecdotal evidence but it worked fine for me two hours ago (EU)

lament lagoon
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i crafted mine two hours ago

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shiiiet

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oh i see what u mean by buggd now

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yea i crfted mine no problem, ilvl 285

sullen dove
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poggers

umbral gull
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I’m stuck at Disney with my wife 😅 This season looks kinda easy in M+, no? My friends are already 2.6k even though that was their peak in past seasons. So can we just play Slayer for fun?

blissful hound
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If youre with a group its easy

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With pugs it can become interesting really quick

rich palm
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If your just filling vault its literally never been this easy, I would expect buff to m+ tbh. Or we will have people running 25's or something. 😁

digital mauve
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Can a clever mind explain me why we shouldnt Rampage at < 100 rage ? Also should we wait for it to be at 100 or 130 rage ? Because sometimes I'm like at 70-80ish rage, I don't have BT, nor CB or Exécuté and I prefer to Rampage at low rage rather than a TC filler

Can someone enlighten me please ?

sudden tusk
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its just action econemy

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if you arent dropping enrage nor will you overcap you lose literally nothing by casting tclap or rb

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but only gain a benefit later on in your rotation by having more rage to work with instead of using a gcd to spend, you used a gcd to build without excess

grand condor
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Any suggestions for parsing on heroic dragons? Void Orbs get melted by my guild before they jump to a clump

sudden tusk
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its like making a batch of kool-aid that you get to enjoy later becuase you put the work in early

sudden tusk
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you go for boss damage and who cares about adds that do nothing

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if anything they might be removed from logs potentially down the line

lament lagoon
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make up for it in p3 cleave

bitter palm
digital mauve
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To sum up I should wait for 100 or 130 ? In the end it allows for a better damage profile to hold Rampage until thé 100 threshold?

digital mauve
sudden tusk
bitter palm
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if u dont have exe or bt u send rampage

sudden tusk
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can tclap if at or sub 100

bitter palm
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if u have exe or bt u press that first

sullen dove
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😭 stop making me run nexus point

bitter palm
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MINIMUM

sullen dove
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me when i make shit up

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w

bitter palm
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bro i need to run nexus point too

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i will crash out

sudden tusk
sullen dove
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2k dps ring upgrade

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cucked by 1 ring

bitter palm
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same

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the big crit one

digital mauve
# bitter palm depends what spells u got

Well if I got BT and/or Exécuté I'm good I can reach 110-130 easily, but sometimes nothing is available and I still didn't reach 100 so I just Rampage there but I don't know if 'its bad or not to do it?

sullen dove
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i gotten like 2 of those

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please haste mastery

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i have 0 mastery

sudden tusk
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all im missing at this point is just ilvl on a few pieces

sullen dove
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and all the haste

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270 in bags

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267 equipped

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so cool

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(embell wrist still to blame)

sudden tusk
sudden tusk
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going after seat gloves im gonna explode

bitter palm
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rampage is still there

sullen dove
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my droptimizer doesnt work cuz its like 5 pieces i can put on that the ring fixes

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also dont want to cata normal pants this dungeon also drops heroic pants

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lets get some form of loot outta here man

digital mauve
sudden tusk
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simply obtain the rings sillysmish

sullen dove
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perish

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yo duo queue dungeon?

sudden tusk
#

you know whats wild

bitter palm
sullen dove
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i funnel crit right u funnel void yes

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surely u have 2 266

worn tinsel
sudden tusk
sullen dove
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explode

sudden tusk
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also i cant que for dungeons for a week

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im on the list

sullen dove
#

w

heavy dock
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I dropped puzzlebox on my first academy run this season

sudden tusk
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i acheived 2100. i also acheivesd a 1 week silence that blocks me from using group finder

heavy dock
#

I gave it to my uh dk friend cuz i aint dealing with that shit again

digital mauve
#

Wow OD top 1 ? Surprised..

bitter palm
#

it assumes 4set

bitter palm
heavy dock
digital mauve
sudden tusk
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a man can only get someone queing Blood Dk on a flag carry map in blitz so many times before he feels the need to explain why they ruined the entire match by existing

raw bone
#

hey! why if we want mastery/haste our crit trinkets sim the best?

heavy dock
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Ah pvp moment i see

raw bone
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for example i see that the crit plume sims better than the mastery one

sudden tusk
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i will not say slurs, i will however call them very stupid

heavy dock
sullen dove
heavy dock
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And big crit is still big stat which is nice

sudden tusk
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our stats are weird rn, We want master,haste and crit

sullen dove
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like if u just hit rampage and you see bt/bb coming off cooldown you can hit rampage and then just start pressing bb and itll go off things like that

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the other warr is also way more enchanted than you which can be pretty significant

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not the sole reason for the gap of course but if you have the gold it would certainly lessen it

raw bone
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ok, so we basically want anything that isnt vers

sudden tusk
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i just use the robot for i am not that smart

heavy dock
#

I feel like every class hates mastery this season what happened lol

sullen dove
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particularly tho your weapons are alot lower than him would try to craft a spark weapon if you can unsure if you have 4 sparks yet or if you have another issue with trying to get it crafted like mats/finding a crafter

sullen dove
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would suggest u can also plug your log into wowanalyzer and it should give a similar breakdown of some of the simpler fixes you can try to do with rotation and uptime and stuff

radiant plank
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@winter shoal did you update wowA yet chatting

sullen dove
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yes

worn tinsel
heavy dock
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Did anyone do any mythic raiding yet? How puggable is the first boss :D

sullen dove
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yea if all your spells are on cooldown and nothings up then you just hit rampage

jovial dagger
#

got a question cos i just cant wrap my mind around it , i know puzzlebox is nice in m+ but as it doesnt align with ava and reck , is it worth using if my other trinkets sim just like half a percent or 0.1-0.2% lower? personaly i feel puzzlebox just breaks the rotation in my brain and i fuck it up

sullen dove
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you didnt seem to waste "too much" more rage than the other warrior

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you just seemed to generate way less

worn tinsel
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How did you notice that?

sullen dove
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which probably is severely as a result of 15 lower casts per minute

sudden tusk
sullen dove
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so i think just number 1 really try to hit your buttons a lot more often if you can

digital mauve
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@sullen dove btw parsing dépends on the ilvl? Like aligning cds and knowing the boss by heart asides, just mmbeing enchanted and having more ilvl gonna mechanically increase the parse you get ? Or is it normalize depending on your ilvl and your group (the time it took to kill the boss)?

sullen dove
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and also work towards a spark weapon if you can help it + some enchants if you have the gold for it, but would say only enchant normal/hero pieces atm

worn tinsel
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Very good advice everything. Thank you!

jovial dagger
sullen dove
heavy dock
sullen dove
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there are ilvl parses to show how you did compared to others in your ilvl bracket, so you can have like a 60 parse at 250 ilvl but have like a 90 ilvl parse, as in "you did well for people in your ilvl, but your ilvl is still just really low so you did bad compared to every player with all gear ranges"

radiant plank
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ilvl is irrelevant

sudden tusk
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there is also so much useless pad in this raid that people who rank 1 are realistically having their raid friends not hit the adds so theu can just feed on them

jovial dagger
bold carbon
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so are we supposed to click cleave in the paladins fight if theyre 2 target

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or never

heavy dock
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Idk idol just fucked with me i hated it so much

bold carbon
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for filler*

sudden tusk
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if MS is on CD p sure you still cleave

sullen dove
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ya cleave op

sudden tusk
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tho this be the fury channel

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cleave do big dam

bold carbon
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oh oops lmfoa

heavy dock
#

What cleave? We clappa cheeks here

jovial dagger
digital mauve
sullen dove
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yea it helps to have the most gear you possibly can but if you dont you can still see if you "personally played well" by looking at ilvl parse

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they're still p meaningless and dont show up on your logs front page but can get some personal satisfaction

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but yea ideally just try to get more gear and when you got the gear get some more

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true

digital mauve
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Where can I see it ?

sullen dove
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just click on a log and they'll be on the right side

sudden tusk
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i greifed so hard on my imp kill

sullen dove
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this one looks wack cuz new log

sudden tusk
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had my aoe prio mixxed up didnt BB enough

bleak harness
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yo , quick q , why does my crit sim so high as fury , is it because i have high mastery and haste ?

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isnt it better to go for versa than crit ?

digital mauve
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I figure I dont respect the 100 Rampage threshold and don't use TC at 6+ targets, only to apply cleave + not aligning cd with the adds on raid boss => which get me stuck on 50-60 parse range

sullen dove
#

yea optimal pad gonna be deciding factor on a lot of fights

digital mauve
sullen dove
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jus gotta see how ppl play and try to copy em

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like holding cds every set of adds first boss after using on pull

digital mauve
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Especislly on Salheedar when tank doesn't approche boss towards orbs so no cleave or on dragons when orbs die quickly so if you don't have your cds it's basically gg

sullen dove
#

yea i mean salhadaar is honestly the least pad boss

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you can maybe get a little bit

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and that depends on rly good tanks

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but that one quite specifically is jsut executing st rotation as best you can

sudden tusk
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on the plus side most of mythic is ending up being thane like i redicted

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way less annoying to play then slayer

sullen dove
#

thane alleria kinda poopy..

digital mauve
sudden tusk
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we missed the arrow i think 4 times on the same mob on our kill

digital mauve
#

Saw Crit do Alleria on Thane was pretty good?

sudden tusk
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had legit no damage amps for all of p1 and those mobs count as bosse sfor the boss damage parse

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joever

sullen dove
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i think its just like not enough opportunity to pad

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especially as ppl get more and more gear

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they just die so fast

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might be better in a worse group

digital mauve
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So the people who did the boss first week and a got parse had a unique opportunity that other won't have cuz things die so fast ? That's bad

sullen dove
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but once guilds do that boss on like 275+ adds just disintegrate

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i mean youll still parse higher later on

sudden tusk
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well no parses always fluctuate

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people that kill the boss first have a 100 parse doesn't mean they did the best they possibly could have

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consistant performance will bring consistant results

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playing for parsing will make you make more mistakes

sullen dove
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the boss dmg you gain from 30 ilvl should crush any aoe you can do week 1

digital mauve
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I'm new to this all' parsing thing so I'm trying to understand how it works

sullen dove
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yea its just ppl doin as much damage as they possibly can on every boss

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if theres adds that usually means do a lot to adds

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but good boss dam still significant

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just watching someone play the class to see how they use cooldowns or what they do on bosses can be pretty helpful

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like it seems critcake is gonna raid later today by stream title so if ur around probably worth a decent watch since he'll prolly continue to parse like a monster

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or if u cant catch live im sure he has vods maybe

digital mauve
sullen dove
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ya thats good

digital mauve
#

But the thing is

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His group just do things better

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Like align the orbs on the dragons perfectly to cleave

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Or on Salheedar with the orbs so WE can cleave

sullen dove
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yea for sure better team can be rly helpful too

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though its not as though its impossible to still do well despite that

sudden tusk
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well you just arent going to parse as well if the group isnt doing those things

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so all you can do is improve what you can

sullen dove
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like even if half of the orbs arent near you as dragon you can still hit a ton with thane cds

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and they somewhat group up eventually

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unles your group is like full spread

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should still be plenty possible to do pretty well on that boss

digital mauve
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For exemple on the dragons orbs, before they got all grip together, I'm usually hésitant to just TC and wait for them to align. So I waste time and they die, barely have Time to 2xTB + OD that if I have my cd...

sullen dove
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if you group does less damage then you have more potential to do dmg to them

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yea no i just spam tb the moment they spawn

digital mauve
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Ok good to know

sullen dove
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unless ur group is like literally sperad out across the entire floor you should still be able to cleave like 60%+ of them the moment they spawn

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and because tclap is about as strong as tblast

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its ok to aoe the moment they spawn and just keep spamming till they all die

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that is kinda the play

sudden tusk
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like the person whos gonna rank 1 on the dragon fight

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is going to tell his entire raid to not damage them

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and he will literally wait til they are all grouped and do 1 gorillian damage

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you cannot compete with that level of degeneracy

somber elk
#

Guys is fury Kinda insane in keys ?

sullen dove
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yea rank1s are effectively never attainble

digital mauve
sudden tusk
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fury is good in keys, but the playstyle is different to classes with actualy CDs

fierce mortar
#

This has to be lucky as fuck

digital mauve
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My goal is to achieve at least 90's on all boss

sullen dove
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but think a respectable purple or even orange+ can be done by anyone really trying to get it

sudden tusk
#

thats a big boi ring right there

sullen dove
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assuming u just have up to date gear

sudden tusk
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90s should be obtainable without degen stuff

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just need the gear to do the dam and play well

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early on you are competing with freaks like me that are giga juiced

digital mauve
#

Fully enchanted

digital mauve
sullen dove
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yea this early in a season the degens will go insane with gear way faster than normal ppl

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so while u might be slightly behind u know what u need to do right craft a massive mythic weapon, farm some m+, and within a week or two ilvl should pretty quickly even out between everyone putting in effort

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like in the time it takes us mfs at around 270 to get maybe 10 more ilvls you could get 20 more

sudden tusk
#

alright bed time gn smorbsmish gl on ring

sullen dove
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yea im done for rn

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got a cape

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which is dece ig

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but deadge

sullen dove
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but yea can try the dragons tip of just aoe the moment they spawn and that should boost that one up by a lot at least

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and salhadaar is just gonna be a lot more of how well you can do single target

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cleaving orbs helps a little bit but its extremely unlikely any top log has more than like 5-10% of their damage on that orb i'd think

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since their health is so low compared to the boss

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ok i dont have the ring yet but i think this cape tipped the scale enough to lose some haste to let me wear voidclaws finally

digital mauve
sullen dove
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yuh gl

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my god it barely wins out with a r1 mastery flask

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1 unlucky hunt proc and its gg

sudden tusk
#

yeah i just swapped to lights poteitial for now

sullen dove
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oh actually if i oil both weapons haste now wins

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gg

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time to whip out the attack power stones

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need this ring deadily now

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2pc dmg and get like +100 more mastery while keeping haste the same

elder mulch
#

What’s the fastest way to get 80 crest myth for recrafting?

sudden tusk
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do dungy

elder mulch
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Only +9 ?

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okey

sudden tusk
#

ya

sullen dove
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do a t11 delve (maybe has to be bountiful) for cracked keystone quest for free +20 quest but then otherwise yea just +9 dungeons or higher

elder mulch
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Thank's !

sullen dove
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1.8k dps to swap a single enchant :icant:

sudden tusk
#

are you still simming with that fuckass reck pot

sullen dove
#

yes

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i am a reck only gamer

sudden tusk
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blow up. sim with lights potential

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until you can actually fill out bis

sullen dove
#

will not be subscribing to big strengtha

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if i get this other ring i never have to worry about it for the rest of my life

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im psure

sudden tusk
#

10x bonus rolls on stupid ass shadow gloves

sullen dove
#

yea already got heroic ones

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myth ones are whateva

sudden tusk
#

i fear to farm hero track

sullen dove
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i did too but got it after like 3rd dungeon thank god

#

thats proly why im not getting ring tho

sudden tusk
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also becuase i cant specific que the dungon

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for a week

sullen dove
sudden tusk
#

silence lowkey saving me

sullen dove
#

1k dps ring upgrade gladge

fossil orbit
#

My brain is not working atm, can someone pls explain what the new changes do for singel target? ”creates room for singel target execute buffs”

Aoe = spam Rampage / execute (ID procs)?

sullen dove
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yea you're pretty much already playing like this anyway in slayer aoe currently

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aoe rotation for slayer should almost not change in the slightest except maybe slightly more exe prio over bt since its getting removed from bt

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but they're about pressed on cd anyway

jovial dagger
#

do u ever go ER over massacre ?

sullen dove
#

its just yea reap completely gone from single target which means there hopefully will be some compensating buffs for slayer in st

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but slayer aoe this looks like a pretty solid W for now, much better than what it looked like a week ago

sullen dove
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its not an egregious dps loss, thane can def lose massacre without much issue though as slayer you might drop wrath and fury instead

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since exe just does more for slayer

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this one is nice to have but you rarely hit rb anyway so its not a huge loss

south kayak
fossil orbit
#

Ty 🙏 @sullen dove

sullen dove
#

🫡

sudden tusk
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thane is also naturally tanky becuase of its additional 8% dr. and spamming bt all the time is a constant source of healing

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smorb do you have heroic gaze or something how are you simming higher them me

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im supposed to be sleeping right now what am i doing

south kayak
#

Are you newly yellow Soredish

sullen dove
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only normal gaze

south kayak
#

You're Swordish right?

sullen dove
#

and yea just a couple days :3

steep bough
#

as a non tier gamer, how big is 2/4 set for us? like obviously we want it

sullen dove
#

ya

sudden tusk
#

gimme you sim

south kayak
#

Ok

sudden tusk
#

smorbsmish helpful

south kayak
#

Damn

sullen dove
#

especially on padfest bosses like dragons its probably decently significant there to odyns every set

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but not like make or break a parse odyns itself is still slightly baby

sudden tusk
#

you know what it might be

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second ombelish

south kayak
#

Could it be possible for fury to be top on Dragons

sullen dove
#

o ya easily, its capable tho other classes can also just aoe a ton too

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like boomies i think are also insane at it

south kayak
#

Starfall?

sullen dove
#

not to mention destro locks could just demolish your pad by sheer 2target boss dmg they can do

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probably idk what chickens do

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fury's definitely a high contender but if you have good players on some of these other specs its not necessarily in the bag

sudden tusk
#

oh you have cantrip neck with multiple shadow procs as well

south kayak
sullen dove
sudden tusk
#

yeah that'd explain it

sullen dove
#

yea im gonna quick sim see how much dmg it does

sudden tusk
#

main issue being rn im probably just gonna take the bracers from first boss mythic

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then craft a cloak at myth instead

sullen dove
#

havent been able to use it cuz couldnt put on void gloves

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ya prolly fine tho doesnt a boss drop cape too early on

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or maybe bad stats but eh

sudden tusk
#

its crit vers

sullen dove
#

eh sting doesnt do that much

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about as much as gloves

sudden tusk
#

so you could have 2 well statted pieces then make the bracers later

sullen dove
#

maybe with ring 2set it procs alot more tho too

sudden tusk
#

well it adds up

sullen dove
#

yea

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.6% from both of those

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ik the ring 2set is actually kinda nuts

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gajeel had it do like 1-1.5%ish by itself on single target in a dungeon i think

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free shitty trinkets worth of dmg just for having 2 rings

sudden tusk
#

could be the play long term tbh

sullen dove
#

assume it would be

sudden tusk
#

since we do like crit just shuffle some stats around

sullen dove
#

idk why youd give up free damage

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yea

sudden tusk
#

buuuuut the last boss ring is kupo crazy

sullen dove
#

i just rly hope i get it before raid man..

radiant plank
#

what happeend to sleeping 1h ago both of you

sullen dove
#

but i think i have to clock in in ff tomorrow for like 2 hours

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maaaaaan

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i dont want to prog shitwurm

sudden tusk
#

got to yappin

sullen dove
#

ff pash insta died since expac

sudden tusk
#

oh you havent finished 12 yet

sullen dove
#

hell na

sudden tusk
#

i think i have 1 more reclear to do

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then we are done

sullen dove
#

my friends took like 3 weeks after killing tyrant before deciding to actually zone into the boss

sudden tusk
#

but yeah i sim around 84ish

sullen dove
#

which started like last week into this week

sudden tusk
#

so 3 cantrip effects would make that dif up

sullen dove
#

yea lil bit

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i have heroic vorasius but cant upgrade till 2 266 trinks need 1 more

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i thikn i dont even send past 266 tho since could just get mythic

sudden tusk
#

same

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yeah we kill mythic tomorrow i think

sullen dove
#

early easy boss just win from vault or loot council early surely

#

guaranteed ish waste of crests

sudden tusk
#

and the chance i get it prob high

sullen dove
#

i think we gonna try chimerus

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which hopefully we can do cuz ngl only 3ish pulls tn didnt look taht bad

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but idk

sudden tusk
#

we will prob go voracius then chimerus

sullen dove
#

got to like 62% floundering around like maniacs

sudden tusk
#

got vori down to like 18% or somethin with a bunch dead

sullen dove
#

yea i think vori is probably way more of a gear check

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somehow

#

chim seemed kinda easy if you just survived the mechanics

#

but idk

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made it to intermission once with like 5 ppl dead

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then kinda insta died to a 1 sec fear cast lol

#

will actually be so unbelievably girthmaxxing to kill that boss tho

#

mythic aln trinket in vault perma? yes sir

#

hopefully can do in 3 and a half hours surely

south kayak
#

Madox and Soredish chat

sullen dove
#

and box chat

#

based gamers only

#

ok lay down big day tomorrow of doing nothing

south kayak
#

I wish I was a based gamer

sullen dove
#

may the tooth fairy grant me my ring please

sudden tusk
#

me when i talk to my friends

sullen dove
#

realgi

south kayak
#

Have you guys killed any mythic bosses

sudden tusk
#

go watch critcake

sullen dove
#

just first

sudden tusk
#

boss 1 dead boss 2 dead p soon and 1 boss prob also dead very soon

sullen dove
#

no shoulder piggy funnel unfortunate

#

yea idk vorasius depends how quick chim dies if it can die

#

but id be more than happy to just kill chim

#

rly need to kill halleria on my lock too for trinket...

#

but later

tepid beacon
#

hi all, just gearing up atm but wondered if anyone can crit my current gear

sullen dove
#

assume that means critque?

tepid beacon
#

yes please

sullen dove
#

nothing looks horrible i think, maybe try to drop some verse into more mastery but otherwise would say just hop in some keys to get some ilvl

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but sim items as you get them to see if attempting to stat swap in that way is good

tepid beacon
#

ah ok will do, thanks!

sullen dove
#

u can also craft a veteran crest embellished wrist for no sparks if you want thats prolly better than anything else u could get rn but you will be able to spark craft it next week so not a massive priority if not worried about it

#

ok real bedge time

tepid beacon
#

ah yea so I used 4 sparks already on a crafted weapon as recommended by wowhead, but I'll go for those wrists next

sullen dove
#

yea any pieces out of like belt/boot/wrist/cape are all pretty good for embells

#

madox might be cookin tho ngl with crafting cape since first boss mythic bracers are kinda cool..

#

ok bedge o7

jovial dagger
digital mauve
#

What the ilvl our weapon craft will be with 80 myth crest?

bitter palm
#

285

digital mauve
#

Ty

#

It huge

#

Got the heroic weapon from vanguard too

loud ruin
#

Hi all! I have a very basic question but I’m struggling af. I cannot for the life of me survive and solo encounters that have a lot of ground aoe like the nightmare prey knight errant death knight in eversong this week or the consul nebulor prey last week. How do I get better?

cosmic forge
loud ruin
fading sky
#

hmm fury still needs buffs for raid man 😄

native wadi
#

Yup

#

Problem is there is not a lot of gear around yet

#

So we eat good padding on adds

#

Logs still show us as good but will drop soon

#

I dont think we ll get buffed soon as m+ we are doing decent so maybe pray 12.0.5

#

Decent design changes coming

patent topaz
#

anyone got some tips how to maximize thane build? like specifis on rotation?

manic basalt
#

how big are the dps gains in st and aoe with t-set for fury ?

cosmic forge
silk matrix
#

Okay, sorry to repeat myself, but I asked a question yesterday and fell asleep, so I don't see the answer. Does the priority of Odin's Fury increase with the 4-piece set? Thanks, guys!

cosmic forge
#

Press odyn on cd

silk matrix
#

Above all else, right? The only thing that would have more priority is having 130 rage, I suppose.

cosmic forge
#

Sure there are times where you press something else, but good rule of thumb is to press it on cd

rotund ginkgo
#

JA CLAPPA

bleak topaz
jovial dagger
loud ruin
#

Thank you for the tips friends! Gonna stock up on health pots and also throw in the potion of light’s preservation for a bit of dmg mitigation! Thank you again ☺️

south kayak
rotund ginkgo
#

JA CLAPPA

bleak topaz
loud ruin
jovial dagger
#

if anything spec into enraged regeneration , its 30% dmg reduction , spell reflect is 20% reduction

shy knot
#

Bro what fury is invincible

#

Try arms for one minute

bleak topaz
shy knot
#

I dont even run ER mostly

#

With these op health pots

bitter palm
#

colo especially

shy knot
#

In pvp yes

#

Open world fury is tougher

bitter palm
#

who cares about open world

#

everyone is tough enough

shy knot
#

We lost ignore pain as arms right

shy knot
bitter palm
#

i cant read mb

bitter palm
#

so we never play it

#

its also insanely undertuned

#

its like 15% of ur health

#

on a 20s cd

#

its awful

shy knot
#

Yeah cuz it was busted for a bit lol

#

In DF or early tww

bitter palm
#

idk in tww it was useless as well

shy knot
#

DF then

bitter palm
#

in df u could play both iirc

shy knot
#

Tank lvl ignore pain on arms

bitter palm
#

both fbv and ip or im misremembering

#

but ip had dps value in s1 and s2

#

or only s1

#

i think it was both s1 and s2

shy knot
#

Yeah for fucking ToM

bitter palm
#

the 40 rage counted towrads am tom and tactician

shy knot
#

Still better rotation than now

#

Actually sorta difficult rotation compared to this one

silver ibex
#

does fury still take mastery on AA?

vernal laurel
#

Yo guys, is it safe to recraft now? Or is it still bugged?

little glen
patent topaz
#

how is slayer vs mountain thane in m+?

vernal laurel
cosmic forge
#

Plate class feels like made out of paper

digital mauve
#

Other than Crit what other good fury warrior upload it's vod on ytb?

spare steppe
elfin hatch
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is there a reason why Crushing Blow/Raging Blow is missing here?

indigo arch
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Anyone have a good reflect addon yet?

cosmic forge
indigo arch
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missing it immensely

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have targeted spell but idk

quiet osprey
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WW/Rend/TB has higher prio than Blow on multiple targets, so you just fill with that

elfin hatch
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ok thx

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another question

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as slayer

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how do u spread rend on all targets?

quiet osprey
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rend is aoe

bitter palm
hollow leaf
fathom shard
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New Fury main wannabe here. Is there some addon that will make an icon or something popup on my screen letting me know i have enough rage to use rampage? I currently feel like i’m spending more time looking at my action bars than what i’m fighting… or if there is some other way to counteract this?

jagged sorrel
bold forge
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Im generally having a much easier time staying alive in midnight m+ than tww

jagged sorrel
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Also, is there any fight that is worth switching to arms in raid rn ?

shy knot
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The paladins

fading sky
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I mean

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Thane still claps

cosmic forge
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Thane is huge

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On those fights

clever iron
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do we just send all hero crests this week?

heavy galleon
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True warrior are slayer fury

tardy lark
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If slayer didnt giga blow to play while only being slightly better on pure ST, i would love to

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whoever the person responsible for warrior design is, they need a spanking

bitter palm
median agate
tardy lark
bitter palm
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ye

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i just made the wa

tardy lark
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i guess it mightøve been lol

strong monolith
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I was a slayer stan until now.

tardy lark
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shit im the reason for our downfall

native wadi
bitter palm
native wadi
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If you wanna min max and have a 266 or higher

heavy galleon
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Slayer is decent for M+

bitter palm
fading sky
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Why do y think slayer blows 2 play?

native wadi
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No chest you jave alleria hc

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Or chima mythc

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So i would hold at least till reset

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For chest

fading sky
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Apart from way less bladestorms than we used 2

bitter palm
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true

native wadi
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If that progress is off from you then yes chest too

bitter palm
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compared to tww

heavy galleon
tardy lark
bitter palm
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its just much worse to play and rend sucks

native wadi
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Rend game play sucks

tardy lark
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rend and wrecking throw

fading sky
bitter palm
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r*nd

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wr*cking throw

native wadi
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Yeah its a mess

native wadi
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I gave up in raid

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Clap enjoyed

bitter palm
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avatar owns as thane

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finally its a real cd

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i dislike the ramp tc spam in mass aoe tho

native wadi
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But im last in details in first 3 bosses xd

heavy galleon
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True warrior are bladestorming !

tardy lark
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Thane sort of plays like tww thane did and that was pretty good

native wadi
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Cant toucj a freaking add

tardy lark
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slayer giga blows for both arms and fury

bitter palm
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its straight up better tww

tardy lark
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and colossus is a fucking abomination

bitter palm
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cause cds feel like a cd

bitter palm
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(it doesnt)

fading sky
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Yup thane feels good

bitter palm
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cleave on st

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w design