fury

[magic inlet]

ok good got it

gotta figure out how to move it as its right above my character but good enough

[remote bobcat]

as part of edit mode

[magic inlet]

oh thats handy

[remote bobcat]

indeed

some people change their rage bar color once its 100 rage

from red to green or smth

[swift galleon]

Any Furys here with MYthic weapon crafted? i cant upgrade my 2. weapon for free

[fading sky]

Relog

[radiant plank]

change arms and or relog

[remote bobcat]

relog

[odd crater]

I’d say we should pin the Relog thing, but no one ever reads pins

[swift galleon]

ty, sorry

[odd crater]

Nah you good

[swift galleon]

souldve tried that first 😮

[dry hawk]

I didn't need to relog after I crafted, so

[stable crescent]

What do you all think is the ideal secondary stat spread? Im currently, 43% Mastery, 15% Haste, 19% Crit

Should I be putting a bit more focus towards my haste?

[remote bobcat]

theres no such thing, cheers

[earnest tiger]

whatever sim tells me to equip / gem / enchant based on what i actually have / can get in m+ if droptimizering

[stable crescent]

Feel that. Thanks

[remote bobcat]

raidbots.com is your friend

"optimal secondary stats" dont exist

not realistically

[stable crescent]

Ive been using AskMrRobot, is that tool still viable. Payed $12 for an annual sub

[digital mauve]

is there a way with blizz nameplate to show the bar og the target with a different color/outline?

[serene socket]

how do yall sim as thane for gear replacement? ST spec 1 boss 5 mins?

[remote bobcat]

#ui-addons-manager

ask there

[winter shoal]

No, use raidbots

[winter shoal]

M+ spec 1t 5m because it doesn't really matter

[verbal steppe]

which trinket should i change if i got the haze?

[pure breach]

Maybe the first one

Since the other one it’s bis and pretty strong

[forest berry]

Hello do we have the value of the % gain in dps with the 4set ?

in aoe**

[verbal steppe]

that crit it gives me is that important?

[digital mauve]

What's wrong with the ^prey nightmare leech mob? it kills me everytime with his dot even if I insta stun him

I'm being farmed lmao

[forest berry]

arms is meta now ?

[pure breach]

Well it always recommended to sim it first

[sly pasture]

what is eveyone spell reflecting on Vorasius?

[cinder pivot]

I struggle so bad with my dps! I feel like I'm doing my rotation right and my talents are right and my gear is slowly getting better. I use raidbot to sim because I'm clueless lol but whyyyyy is my beast mastery hunter of a husband doing way better than me?! Lol

[sullen dove]

LEZGOOO

[oak raven]

what weapon enchant are we going for? the Berserker's Rage or the Arcane Mastery?

[sullen dove]

1011 haste vs 1014 mastery aware

[dry hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/bambi2-happy-jumping-with-joy-excited-yay-gif-10897229334538058475

[gilded belfry]

Is 4p bis (head shoulder wrist chest) ?

[sullen dove]

wrist is not a piece

[gilded belfry]

Got 0p & my vault = hero legs or helmet

[sullen dove]

but legs would be the last

[gilded belfry]

Hand*

[sullen dove]

gloves i think are offpiece at the very end but that isnt super significant if u just need to get 4set first

[digital mauve]

so what's the plan for the upgraded weapon this week? wait to do 9s to upgrade it?

[sullen dove]

ya get myth crests

[pure breach]

HUGE

[potent thicket]

so thane works better in raid now?

[echo rapids]

Both can work fine on every fight but paladins

[potent thicket]

welp, imma try a full raid thane c:

[echo rapids]

Where thane is the clappa

I’m just going thane as well

[cunning sentinel]

thane is so less clunky, rend blows

[serene socket]

Slayer on Vorasius and Salhadaar is pretty valid, but I agree I like playing thane more on just about all fights

[potent thicket]

whichthane build for st? or the m+ works wel?

[winter shoal]

There are builds on wowhead for both thane and slayer

[summer quail]

are those actually good?

[sullen dove]

not really but they proc the alleria necklace that is probably pretty cool tryina find out how much better tho

The nexus ring 2pc is actually kinda decent dmg tho gonna farm that next and it’s also shadow dmg i believe

[wild plank]

[sullen dove]

problem is that glove and then the pants I have to cata to replace tier glove are so unbelievably haste padded and no mastery

potion of reck going crazy

Recrafted both items to critmast to drop as much haste as I can and still not enough need to farm a critmast cape next or something

[dry hawk]

To much haste a bad thing?

[sullen dove]

for potion of recklessness yea

otherwise no

i could sim with lights pot but that is a common man's potion

[calm dock]

am i crazy or does this just not at all seem worth it?

[opaque arrow]

with 4 set does odyns usage change instead of slamming around avatar and rec do i just slam whenever?

[dry hawk]

Maybe that's why my gcds feel SLOW

[calm dock]

80 crests for 5 more haste and mas

[sullen dove]

i mean

you should not spend 80 hero quests on the weapon regardless of stats

[spark junco]

Only craft with mythic or no crests right

[sullen dove]

yes

[sleek bolt]

Guys, I'm having issues in raids with Fury, for some reason I stay near the bottom of the dps list.
I do exactly the rotation I need to do but can't get above 40-45k ish on ST with full raid buffs etc at 252 Ilvl

[remote bobcat]

why do you want to craft with hero crests

[remote bobcat]

you are not doing exactly the rotation you need to be doing.

[calm dock]

i dont but was curious how improved it would be

[remote bobcat]

post logs into #1347646810457636974

[remote bobcat]

we scale off of weapon damage

[chilly sapphire]

Any done crafting today with mythic crests?

[sleek bolt]

I mean, Recklessness on CD - Odyns fury on CD - Rampage whenever i reach 100+ rage or whenever Enrage is about to fall off. all the rest is just a prio list - execute > Bloodthirst/bloodbath > Raging blow > Whirlwind whenever nothing else is available

Or am I wrong ?

[digital steppe]

What do you guys think Alexander the Great looked like?

[olive wraith]

Did they just save slayer aoe

[echo rapids]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-12-0-5-ptr-development-notes-for-march-25th-class-changes-and-dracthyr-380971

Wait, did we win?!

[olive wraith]

Honestly. Solid walk back

[sour elbow]

i think we won boys

[calm dock]

on fights like saladbar how big is the difference between thane and slayer?

[olive wraith]

Saladbar?

[smoky vale]

you can play thane every fight

[sullen dove]

did discord die or something

[echo rapids]

SD back to 100% reap proc

[toxic iron]

yes

[olive wraith]

When hitting 3t

[toxic iron]

i think problems with the redirect ip

it happened some years ago too...

[dry hawk]

Is it worth holding OF for 5-10s if reck is coming back

[echo rapids]

Ramp 15% chance to proc reap when WW up

So reap is now purely aoe

Honestly ok with this I guess

If that’s what it takes to balance it

[digital mauve]

discord is dying or?

[winter condor]

67676767

[calm dock]

is discord fucked rn?

[potent thicket]

yup

[calm dock]

sigh

[echo rapids]

20% BT chance vs 15% rampage chance, is that a nerf?

[supple sinew]

what is the ability priority in huge aoe pulls? do I even want to press rampage?

mountain thane

[shy bronze]

Yes!

[toxic iron]

guys best spec for mythic+ warrior fury?

anyone can share a very strong build?

[supple sinew]

these M+ pulls have me questioning my button presses

[wraith wharf]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/talent-builds-pve-dps

[trim lava]

just follow wowhead rotation

storm strike is prio

then rampage

rampage very important for ST as thane as well

rampage over all tbh

but multi target it’s storm afaik

[supple sinew]

I didnt realize wowhead had aoe prio sorry, shows rampage 2nd last ok cool

[shy bronze]

Rampage keeps enrage up and hits hard. it should be used as much as possible

[echo rapids]

[trim lava]

edit

whayever thunderclap is

[tawdry sage]

Is execute still always prio when it procs, even if rage is capped?

[trim lava]

I see shiny icon I press

[shy bronze]

Rampage>Bloodthirst>Execute

[tawdry sage]

Oooh

[glad hill]

Reap update now uses rampage to trigger on 3+ targets which sounds good?

[shy bronze]

^^^^

[trim lava]

@supple sinew

[echo rapids]

Well it’s 20% on BT now but without the whirl wind requirement

[trim lava]

I can’t speak on execute slayer ST shit but for thane I had a similar issue, simmed and was prioing thirst/bath too much

[echo rapids]

So it totally decouples it from single target

[modest condor]

they want reap to be the aoe proc

and that's fine

just need compensation buff for st now

[echo rapids]

You won’t reap at all without whirlwind up

[trim lava]

thunderblast is basically prio for fury thane NOT thunder strike excuse me

[oblique thistle]

Rampage proccing reap is very interesting

I kinda dig that

[echo rapids]

Slayer already hits rampage at 80 rage right?

During cooldowns

I guess this will really lock that in

[glad hill]

Probably need a ST buff to compensate though since it’ll be purely AOE now

[fading sky]

Problem is more

Sd in aoe

[potent thicket]

myep thane raid gives me ice

[fading sky]

Hmm

[sudden sun]

Good changes or am I wrong

[fading sky]

I take it.back

[waxen vale]

LETS FUCKING GO

were back

[fading sky]

I mean 1 issue

Is

[frozen lake]

basically doing aoe things now procs the aoe damage, good changes

[fading sky]

Dead talent in st

[fringe cloud]

Do thane in M+ skip Whirlwind?

[frozen lake]

they can tune it without worrying about single target

[fading sky]

Could also have made it sd only but i guwss thia helps ape a bit

Will fury still hav 15% from ww?

Hmm doesnt it mean u hit ww ww ww ramp ww ww ww in aoe?

[safe ibex]

Hey
I’m trying to make a macro to switch between Berserker Stance and Defensive Stance with a single button (toggle).
I’ve tried several macros using [stance] and [form], but none of them seem to work properly 🤔
Does anyone have a working macro for this on Retail?
Thanks

[fading sky]

Ss if proc?

[echo rapids]

Thane gains the Improved WW buff by casting thunderclap

[sudden sun]

That one it’s on the wowhead fury , useful macros section

[fringe cloud]

ahh tyy

[calm tide]

#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;[known:386164]!Battle Stance;[known:386196]!Berserker Stance

^wow head

My macro

#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2] Defensive Stance; [spec:2] Berserker Stance; [spec:1/3] Battle Stance

[digital mauve]

so slayer still in the match?

[waxen vale]

it should be more aoe than it is now. still an st nerf ofc. but its better than the dogshit ww spam we were getting

[quiet geyser]

slayers looking really juiced for AoE in .5 these changes, plus rend working on whirlwind, plus bladestorm buff

[olive wraith]

Wonder if slayer pulls ahead for uncapped

[echo rapids]

Imagine we don’t get a compensatory ST buff and slayer is just dead

[olive wraith]

Rr rampage highest prio

[quiet geyser]

honestly taking reap off BT is a good change, now they can just buff RB up in the hero tree somewhere

especially to compensate for the reap loss in ST

[waxen vale]

unbinding rend is gonna be giga

[reef laurel]

might be a dumb question, but have literally 0 vers.... should I have any at all ? lol

[olive wraith]

Doesn’t the aura buff already compensate enough?

[quiet geyser]

no?

aura buff is already applied, and our ST is pretty dog shit

the loss of reap in st is for .5

[waxen vale]

one of fury strengths is theres no bad stats. however if you have 0 - check out the post about reck pots in update channel

[olive wraith]

Right but how much reap is in st

[reef laurel]

yeah I already realized no reck pot tyty

[quiet geyser]

with the current playstyle spamming BT as much as possible

[waxen vale]

nono

[quiet geyser]

quite a bit

[waxen vale]

you probably SHOULD reck pot if u 0 vers lol

[echo rapids]

Reps is not nothing in ST, it’s every 5th bloodthirst proccing it

[fading sky]

Slayer is saved

Somewhat

Now they can buff rb so slayer plays rb and thane bt

And we can have 2 builds

[quiet geyser]

@olive wraith using a higher slayer log for Salhadaar (used soredish), his reap was 9.28% of his dmg

few hits on the balls, but almost 90% of that was salhadaar dam

[echo rapids]

They will give a 3% aura buff to compensate lol

[quiet geyser]

even in ST, reap is prob 8-10% of ur dam depending how lucky u get

[safe ibex]

didn't work for me :/

[olive wraith]

Roger

Still think design wise this change is really smart

[sleek bolt]

Hmm wowhead now shows Slayer as best for AoE & ST for raids, is that really the way to play ?

[foggy urchin]

lads, sorry to ask a silly one but why's raging blow So low priority?

and rampage as well?

[olive wraith]

Because of its bad atm

[hardy cargo]

using anecdotal logs, its about 66% nerf to ST reap dam calculated upon reap hits to boss - sd procs

[quiet geyser]

the change is good, slayer can crank in AoE lol, but losing 8+% st dam

is awful

[foggy urchin]

damn, this is counterintuitive

[olive wraith]

Is it?

[foggy urchin]

so im supposed to fill with raging blow and only rampage to refresh enrage?

[olive wraith]

Rampage is also rage dump

[cursive ridge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/46?class=Warrior&spec=Fury&difficulty=4 you can always see what top parses play on each fight if ur wanting to parse as well as possible

[south kayak]

Sure but these changes are independent of any tuning

They're design changes

Tuning is something they'll do after

The best thing they can do is buff up some slayer talents or buff Slayer's Strike

[quiet geyser]

? the added SD affect has to hit multiple enemies

[hardy cargo]

brother I know

im not refuting u

[quiet geyser]

i dont quite understand the 66% thing then

[hardy cargo]

u are losing

[olive wraith]

There’s no reap in st

[hardy cargo]

66% of ur reap damage

in st

[olive wraith]

Unless I missed something

[pulsar quest]

Right now reap procs in ST when using SD

[hardy cargo]

compared to current

[quiet geyser]

you'dde be losing 100% of it brother

not 66%

[hardy cargo]

u still get

bt proccing reap

no

[quiet geyser]

no

[fading sky]

No

[quiet geyser]

they got rid of that

[olive wraith]

I thought it was removed

From bt

[south kayak]

They got rid of ST reap entirely

[quiet geyser]

it only procs on the improved WW rampage, or AoE SD procs

[south kayak]

it's going to be an AoE passive now

Which is fine, Slayer's Strike can be entirely ST

[digital mauve]

slayer is back and maybe number one lets gooo

[quiet geyser]

hence all the above msgs saying theres gonna need to be further tuning lol

[digital mauve]

we jsut gonna lose our tankiness from thane

[atomic tartan]

hey guys, ive already craft my weapon, im gonna upgrade it with mythic crest. I've got 3 radiant spark dust, what must i craft . wrist ?

[quiet geyser]

otherwise slayer will just lose 8%+ st dam

[south kayak]

Well, obviously

This ain't something we should be worried about

It's gonna come

[quiet geyser]

disagree with this, imo best thing is to buff RB through slayer tree. Slayer just works way better being RB focused

[dapper skiff]

Sorry. I know this is a super basic question, but is SMF dead? is it just a transmog option now? Or can I still use 1 handers?

[pulsar quest]

u can no longer smf

its transmog only now

[dapper skiff]

Damn. Thank you!

[fading sky]

How u have 3

[echo rapids]

Yes blizzard would never make a gameplay change that caused a spec to lose damage and then not give an appropriately compensating buff 😂

[olive wraith]

Slayer is still tanky fwiw

[pulsar quest]

he got a 3dust not 3 sparks

[south kayak]

buffing RB still buffs our mutlitarget

not just ST

[atomic tartan]

ah right, im stupid sorry

[olive wraith]

I mean surely it’s better than thane now

[quiet geyser]

and? It's not like slayers multitarget is exactly BiS lol

[south kayak]

No it isn't but the entire reason for this change is to tune ST and AoE better independently

[olive cobalt]

Doesn't buffing anything increase both AoE and ST by virtue of improved whirlwind ?

[south kayak]

Not certain abilities/passives like Slayer's Strike which is entirely ST

[quiet geyser]

yes, but that can be tuned to be neutralized as well. lower the WW coefficient and increase base ability dam

[red coral]

Did a dev tell you this

[quiet geyser]

but its not really overly OP Right now anyways

[south kayak]

No, it's just obvious

[red coral]

Right

[shadow maple]

in .5 slayer fury st is dead no¿

[olive wraith]

It’s a little worse yes

[south kayak]

Barring any tuning to help prop it up, sure

[shadow maple]

in st reap is like my 8%

[red coral]

I can think of about 20 different ways of tuning st and mt independently without adding multiple conditionals to reap the storm

[shadow maple]

if i dont proc that is 8% lost no¿

[olive wraith]

Like how

[south kayak]

That is indeed gone but there's plenty of ways to get that back (Buffing Slayer's Strike, for example)

[south kayak]

This is a pretty great way of doing it

[red coral]

Wrong

[south kayak]

[red coral]

Also counter to their design of simplifying the game

[olive wraith]

Wait, tell me how you would independently tune them though

[echo rapids]

Yeah I’m curious

[quiet geyser]

^^

[olive wraith]

These changes don’t seem to complicate anything to me

[south kayak]

Why wouldn't this simplify the game?

doing your aoe rotation just procs reap now

lol

There's literally no change to how you play

[olive cobalt]

Can the talent have hero splits ? Because that would hurt Thane also no ?

Though thunder clap feels pretty good in AoE already

[echo rapids]

Doesn’t slayers strike interact with sudden death?

[quiet geyser]

literally anything can be tuned to feel right

[olive cobalt]

You get one sudden death every 3 slayer strike

[echo rapids]

Which would lead to more reaps in aoe

[olive cobalt]

Idk if there's something else

[south kayak]

Just like now

[quiet geyser]

reason why im not fully onboard with just buffing slayers strike is it still makes MT and slayer the same BT spamming. slayer being more RB focused is 10x better and atleast changes it a bit

[echo rapids]

I guess if you buffed the damage of slayers strike but not the rate it would be a pure ST buff

[olive cobalt]

Reintroduce TWW S3 4p in slayer's tree

[south kayak]

I don't see them buffing the rate

[olive wraith]

Pls no

[south kayak]

it's fine as is

This is clearly aiming for Slayer's Strike ST/ Reap AoE

[olive cobalt]

You don't like mindlessly spamming RB ? 🙁

[echo rapids]

I’m struggling to think of lots of easy ways to buff purely ST without impacting our aoe

[olive wraith]

I don’t like neglecting bt(or rb)

[quiet geyser]

i actually think a mix of tww s2 and s3 would be nice. I like s2 with the occasional big BT hits, but the use execute on demand of s3

[south kayak]

You know what would be cool

Nah nevermind

[olive wraith]

A sixth bleed

[south kayak]

I was thinking of bringing back 2p from S3

It can buff ST

[echo rapids]

You could shave a little off our IWW percent and buff AP ratios on abilities

[olive wraith]

I wanna see that guys list of 20 things

[hollow totem]

question, whats yalls opinion on the puzzle box?

[olive cobalt]

Sim badly for some reason so I didn't try it

Heard there's a 2s gcd cast ?

[hollow totem]

not a fan of the 2second cast but it does do a lot of dmg on intial pull

[gray plume]

Anyone get any in depth video or guide how to play slayer ? MT has a nice flow to it and I got that down but slayer feels clunky sometimes and I cant pin point what im doing wrong

[olive wraith]

Madox I think?

[spring fox]

I just want them to rebalance RB and BT to be around where they used to be. BT is too high priority and RB is too ignorable

[south kayak]

Used to be as in "ignore BT and focus on RB"? lol

[gray plume]

Will check out thank you

[fleet heath]

how often are cata charges dropping once you aquire 4pc? are we holding charges for hero gear? or sending

[south kayak]

Someone said they dropped enough

[candid falcon]

am i insane or does this sound miserable to everyone else too

[south kayak]

No

[olive wraith]

You’re insane

[spring fox]

It sounds pretty passive. Just do the rotation

[hollow totem]

its a nerf for us for sure

[south kayak]

It's the same as now lol

[hollow totem]

less reap the storm procs

[candid falcon]

right but now it doesnt trigger reap in single target ever?

[olive wraith]

It’s an upgrade from the .5 changes before today

[south kayak]

No

There's other ways to fix the loss of ST damage

[spring fox]

Not to that extreme, but bring down BT priority a bit and bring up RB priority, even if BT stayed stronger

[olive cobalt]

Compared to live it feels pretty bad I think

[candid falcon]

this is what i meant yeah

[spring fox]

Like I said, just do the rotation

[south kayak]

I don't think it feels any different aside from not getting Reap on ST lol

[olive wraith]

Sure. But .5 before today was far worse

[south kayak]

Which is entirely passive

[candid falcon]

not getting reap on ST feels bad though

[south kayak]

I don't think it's an issue

[candid falcon]

there will be an entire part of your hero talents that just doesn't work

in a ST situation

in a ST focused hero talent set

[olive cobalt]

Yeah I saw the changes and it was pretty doomer

[south kayak]

It's not really ST focused

And they can easily buff Slayer's Strike to bring up that loss

[candid falcon]

they can buff slayers strike

will they buff slayers strike?

[south kayak]

Very likely

[olive wraith]

Idk about that

[south kayak]

This is something none of you should be worried about lol

[chilly sapphire]

Love the 2nd boss bug in skyreach.

[south kayak]

Either it happens or it doesn't

YOu can't change it

[candid falcon]

not wrong on that tbh

[south kayak]

But all these changes they did is due to the fact that they have trouble tuning Reap for both ST and AoE

[olive wraith]

I do agree with this being a good design change though

[south kayak]

Which tells me they're aware of the ST loss

[olive wraith]

It’s too rng, and if you buff/nerf it directly it changes aoe/st too much

[south kayak]

I'm glad they made Rampage the ability to proc reap instead of BT lol

I always thought it should have been rampage

[olive wraith]

I think it was one of their solutions to increasing bt prio

Just wasn’t enough in tww

[wanton frigate]

Is there a way to display a rage bar now that auras are gone? So I do not need to look at my character frame to know if I am at 100+? blizzard's built in personal resource display sucks

[south kayak]

Definitely

[south kayak]

There's an addon, Sensei something

[red coral]

Why

[mental mulch]

im ok with losing reap in ST if they balance the damage for the loss. i did like the little animation it does but it will just feel like season 1 and 2 of war within slayer

[south kayak]

Idk, it just makes sense for an ability like Rampage to proc it

[mental mulch]

and i like it attached to rampage for aoe

[olive wraith]

Sir please, can you explain

[south kayak]

how much damage is SS doing rn?

[red coral]

They should combine bloodthirst and raging blow into one ability called dogshit filler button in the .5 patch

[south kayak]

on a pure ST boss

[wanton frigate]

looks perfect, thanks

[south kayak]

[rotund ginkgo]

WAIT IS SLAYER BACK

??

[south kayak]

Indeed

Praise Frozenbozo for this

[echo rapids]

As long as we get some ST buffs it will be

[south kayak]

There hasn't been any numbers tuning for .5 yet

[echo rapids]

Although if the adds in some of these mythic fights live for a while thane might still be better

[olive wraith]

I’m interested to see if this pushes slayer to be better in uncapped

[echo rapids]

Shouldn’t really change aoe much

[olive wraith]

Higher ramp prio and able to take rr

[brittle mauve]

Yo...puzzle box before or after we press CDs?

[south kayak]

Yeah with this slayer probably gonna spam Rampage as soon as possible on AoE

[south kayak]

Before, you wanna maximize your CDS damage

[brittle mauve]

Okie

[echo rapids]

Isn’t ramp already at the top during CDs?

[olive wraith]

I thought bt was still higher as long as you avoid rage cap

[echo rapids]

I guess not

[olive wraith]

Plus you’ll be able to hit ramp more than bt I think. So generally more procs

[supple sinew]

Looks like reap the storm changes for 12.0.5 are still planned with latest data mine post

Rip

[south kayak]

They're not the same changes

read them

[olive wraith]

It’s obviously gonna be a sim angle

I’m just curious

[supple sinew]

You need to read what I said again brother

[south kayak]

I do not need to. You said "looks like the reap changes for .5 are still planned"

They are definitely planned but it's a huge improvement

[sullen dove]

godcomp yea or nay

[radiant plank]

sub

xff

[south kayak]

indeed

[queen panther]

No Druid feels bad

Jk fuck em

[radiant plank]

feral>sub

[young swan]

bad spec

[red coral]

Your addition of “the” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there

[young swan]

needs buffed

[eager stirrup]

When should we craft our bracers? If I get another 80 mythic crests should I go ahead and do it or what?

[sullen dove]

you need another spark

which u get next week

[eager stirrup]

Oh, true

Thanks

[orchid iron]

every time I come back im reminded why I hate this game some times. Literally PUG'd Keystone Master yesterday and today cant get into any keys worth doing

[olive wraith]

Still wish reap wasn’t the aoe tool for slayer

[olive wraith]

Not trying to out you down or anything, but ksm probably won’t get you invites

[modest wave]

Keys have been chill today honestly, people actually interrupting etc

a week from now it'll be a clusterfuck

[orchid iron]

thats not the point, im saying the good will ended in 12 hours lol

[modest wave]

climbed to 2.4k io at in my office slamming my keyboard

[orchid iron]

now its just turbovirginmaxxing

[modest wave]

about to get a promotion it sounds so productive in here

[pale sentinel]

If we set loot to fury are we still getting the possibility of RNG on 1handerse

xD

[sullen dove]

99% sure no

[olive wraith]

If you want fast invites gotta apply to something like 2-3 key levels lower than your highest timed

[rare helm]

Whats the IO number most try hardest look for when acepting people to party’s?

[smoky vale]

3k

[young swan]

keep in mind that no one who is actually good at the game will be 3k rn

[orchid iron]

and you say this with a straight face for what reason

[clever stone]

anyone know why you cant upgrade your offhand for free once you craft your 285 wep?

[hallow sphinx]

[mystic hill]

relogging fixed that for me

[sudden tusk]

go get some nuggies bro you gotta be grinding

need that slat

salt

[olive wraith]

Not even joking. This early people want to farm, not take a chance

[orchid iron]

are you a real person or what

[hallow sphinx]

I just got a burrito

[reef laurel]

no one good has good io? what?

I think we're falling for bait

[grim prism]

does dungeon slice work for fury or arms

[sudden tusk]

hell yeah

[thorny cove]

So I have 3 sparks and haven't finished the world tour quest yet. Where do I get the last one(not the quest one)?

[earnest tiger]

yes, why would you waste time in slower 11+ while you're farming gear when 10 gives you the same loot

tbf it's not everyone, but majority of good players would rather spam easy 10s and get loot

[orchid iron]

This week was the 5th possible one

you may have missed a weekly and need a drop from m+ or raid

[thorny cove]

ok

I got one from mythic+ but I haven't run the raid yet

maybe just do it on LFR maybe I just wanna craft my weapon lol

[orchid iron]

you should finish the world tour while youre in que

[thorny cove]

can you do all the event in one week?

[orchid iron]

isnt it just do all the weeklies?

[spring jacinth]

are newer catalyst charges u get after 4set frequent? or are they like really rare? Was thinking of getting 4set with champion or not

[smoky vale]

it just means you can get hero and myth tier faster

if you can get 4p get it

[orchid iron]

how does that answer what he asked

[chilly fractal]

Get 4p immediately

You get a charge next Tuesday anyway on top of the charges you’ll get out of playing the game

[earnest tiger]

had 2 drop today in m+, like 12 runs

[spring jacinth]

ah so not that rare, tyvm

[nimble sluice]

Rank 4 Delver's Journey, and doing Bountiful Tier 11 delves, but not getting Gilded Stashes. Am I missing something?

[neat ermine]

Hey guys, any tips for targetting 'problems' (subjective problemes i reckon) with fury? I am finding myself clicking action bars into the air with bloodthirst/rampage. Or its just a get better issue?

[smoky vale]

no reason to care about the rarity of the drops imo because you are gatekept by getting 3/6 gear more than getting the charges

[olive cobalt]

What does the tooltip say when entering a delve ?

It should tell you how many stashes you have left this week

[nimble sluice]

Ah that explains it. Tyvm Paz

[elfin harbor]

Wrecking Throw is only used when enemys having an absorb right? Like Adds in the CHimaeron fight

and maybe when enemy is not reachable

like in air or so

[thorny cove]

@elfin harbor isn't your name the spanish name of charizard?

[elfin harbor]

German

[thorny cove]

ah

[elfin harbor]

dunno what the spanish one is

[ionic hamlet]

Do we want to use Sudden Death on proc?

[smoky vale]

i think if at 2 or in execute

but before you can kinda do whatever until it runs out

but the robot has it immediately doing it

ive found myself mainly bting before executing

to get bt on cd

instead losing 1s to execute

[ionic hamlet]

gotcha

tyvm

[smoky vale]

this is only before execute

[elder mulch]

hey !
can we upgrade all hero gear with hero crests?

[wooden scarab]

I assume we can put our loot spec as fury since they removed single minded fury

[south kayak]

Yep

Wait, I'm not sure

[solar zephyr]

Im kind of getting upset with how much we have to spam our buttons when u just look at other classes how easy they are to play and so chill

[south kayak]

But I would be surprised if there were 1h weapons in the fury loot table

[cinder pivot]

You are a chatty bunch lol I can't find my comment. 🙁 I need helps

[buoyant elm]

in m+ slayer build is doing slightly more damage for me overall is it just me?

[south kayak]

I can't find your comment

[pliant jackal]

Same

[solar zephyr]

I do alot more on thane u just built different bro

[pliant jackal]

Maybe you aren’t pulling enough

[cinder pivot]

She gone lol

It was a couple hours ago

[regal falcon]

For a trinket like Light Company Guidon is it better to use it as soon as it's up or macro it to Avatar and only use it when Avatar is up?

[unkempt galleon]

crown neck out of weekly box pog

[pliant jackal]

Is light company trinket 130?

[regal falcon]

yes

[pliant jackal]

I would just macro to avatar

That’s me

[elfin harbor]

so since i didnt got an answer i think im right good x)

[worn yoke]

So... The 12.0.5 notes are actually kinda sounding great for Slayer m+
BUT it also seems like we're just gonna get near no reap procs on single target anymore ?

[cinder pivot]

I need a guru. My parses are in the grey. Can someone look me up and tell me why I suck? Lol

[south kayak]

You're right

[young swan]

should check out wowanalyzer, its updated for midnight and just requires you to post a log link and it'll tell you where u messed up

[worn yoke]

Rend applied by IWW, and what seems to be a decent amount of reap procs in aoe also.

[south kayak]

Wow analyzer finally good for warrior?

What's happening

[pliant jackal]

Try that out and see if there is desync.

[olive wraith]

I swear it was viable in tww

Don’t bowll sensei work on it

[pliant jackal]

If you don’t have tier set you and macro to Odin fury

So you get trinket every two cast of Odin

[cinder pivot]

Thank you!

[warm crag]

@winter shoal was working on it it should be good for what it does

[winter shoal]

bro it's been updated since nerubar palace

[cinder pivot]

Now to figure out how to fix this. I feel like I'm always on the move, and hitting buttons constantly where I get finger cramps. While my beast mastery hunter of a husband, sits back and hits buttons so casually and slowly, and he put put DPSs me....

[sullen dove]

yea i think ability uptime means hitting buttons and melee uptime is just being in melee range of the boss?

and im psure both of those two are pretty related

[south kayak]

Wasn't aware of that

[sullen dove]

if youre not in melee range you cant hit abilities

so think the melee uptime is like number 1 thing just like.. being close enough to hit the boss i think is what that means

[elder mulch]

can we upgrade all hero gear with hero crests?

[winter shoal]

Those numbers are automatically calculated idk

[sullen dove]

whether u have to follow it if tank moves them weird or just be in range on your own accord for certain bosses that move a lot less

[sullen dove]

yea but thats what that means right or no

[winter shoal]

Probably yeah

[cinder pivot]

Hmm maybe once I stop panicking when there's poop on the ground and running all over the place, things will be better lol

[bold carbon]

how much do you save odyns for cd's

[sullen dove]

ya could be

[bold carbon]

in aoe

[winter shoal]

none

[sullen dove]

the most like ethical option is to upgrade a 3/6 hero to 4/6 hero for now

in all your slots that will be most of your hero crests this week with a few left over in case of mythic drops

but in future weeks or even now if you dont see yourself farming 266 every slot is fine to send the biggest ticket items to 6/6 first i guess

like chest/helm/pants maybe 1 ring and 1 trinket (trink if its something u wont be likely to be getting on myth soon)

like wouldnt send a heroic vorasius trinket if u ever think youre gonna kill vorasius mythic soontm since few people need the trinket and its an easier early boss

but whichever u choose you should be starting from 3/6 hero that drops out of +10s in m+ if you can help it

[stoic pagoda]

hi im back

[sullen dove]

hi back

[trail locust]

Do we craft besides 2H now the wrist on 285?

[sullen dove]

cant craft wrist until next week but probably fine to spend myths on that assuming you dont get a ton of myth gear from raid

[stoic pagoda]

just did raid on dreamrift normal. would you take a look at my log again? I'm not sure if I did better today xd

[sullen dove]

like assume 1 guaranteed myth item a week costs 80 myth crests, current cap is 250

is your number higher than before 😄

decent indicator of if better or not

[stoic pagoda]

I mean a bit

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/antonidas/ohnebart?boss=3306

its 34 now instead of 15 xd

but it still feels low no?

[sullen dove]

a bit but definitely better

a lot less rage wasted this time vs last

[stoic pagoda]

ah yes, i tried looking a bit on it, but I guess i still wasted way more than I thought

[sullen dove]

considering this time u also had other warriors in your group you might be able to see easier differences between them and yourself

[trail locust]

so why not craft wrist for 80 more ?

and wait for next week?

[stoic pagoda]

where did you find this? I still find the site very confusing

[thorny cove]

it doesn't matter if you craft mace, axe, or sword right?

[sullen dove]

you cant craft wrist this week

need another spark

[sullen dove]

does not

[stoic pagoda]

i find it interesting that the top fury warrior this time in the raid played MT instead of slayer...

[sullen dove]

her eis where you see rage

[trail locust]

OMEGALUL True

[stoic pagoda]

ah thx

[sullen dove]

you can compare 2 people with compare function like this

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/hqtgQCTMRpaW6KB3/self?fight=23%2C23&type=damage-done&source=360%2C356

and can more clearly see differences between 2 players on the same class

[stoic pagoda]

thats helpful I think, thx

[sullen dove]

you two actually had pretty similar boss damage

he just did waaaaaaaay more add damage

[spare steppe]

i like the 12.0.5 changes

[sullen dove]

which thane is a bit better for

[stoic pagoda]

ahhhh

I see

[sullen dove]

but to get a 99 he's still def good

like he could be doing more boss dmg if he did less add dmg

but one other thing thats a pretty easy objective upgrade depending on how much gold you have is getting enchants

those are easily worth 10% more dps

[stoic pagoda]

Is it worth it to enchant already? I have around 90k

[trail locust]

We save our mythcrests for next week right?

[sullen dove]

u save your myth crests for myth loot

whenever u get any

[sullen dove]

might be a little expensive but if you have made a crafted weapon you could probably enchant that at least

since itll stickw ith you the whole season

[stoic pagoda]

yeah ok, makes sense. time to get the 4th spark then xd

[thorny cove]

finally done with the stupid world tour quest jfc

[sullen dove]

but yea aside from a bit of a gearing difference main thing to do is pmuch just like see how your casts/abilities line up with his

like he has 91 rampages to your 59

try to see where you coulda cast more

[tribal dagger]

yo guys, craft myth Weapon cloak / wrist and gamble for 2 Weapons from vault?

[sullen dove]

weapon just probably safer

not like the other armor is insanely high stats

and youll be able to make one of the two next week

[tribal dagger]

Yeah true I can just craft them if I get 2 Weapons

[sullen dove]

yea i mean crafted weap is still probably better than 2 myth weaps and 2 armor embells

but up to sim ig

that late in the season when that could happn

[tribal dagger]

and second Weapon upgrade doesnt take crests

[sullen dove]

yea

its def very bad to upgrade weapon then craft another

but crafting > upgrade is harmless

[dry ether]

this trinket sims like absolute garbage also for dungeon slice, anyone know if the sims are actually wrong and its good for m+? 😂

or is it a DE angle

[high echo]

do these new changes in the beta mean reap the storm is strictly for aoe rotations/aoe fights?

[south kayak]

Yep

[covert topaz]

does getting a myth crafted weapon not make offhand upgrades til that ilvl free anymore?

[boreal sluice]

its free you need to relog and maybe swap arms

[covert topaz]

aight ty for the heads up

[loud field]

question for yall

can anyone else upgrade their offhand 2h if they crafted a myth weapon

or is it bugged

[willow cradle]

Just relog

[loud field]

one of our fury warriors is saying he can't upgrade his offhand

for free*

[willow cradle]

Yuh tell him to relog

[boreal sluice]

yeah he needs to relog

[loud field]

alr, ty

[merry scaffold]

If relogging doesn't work try swapping to Arms and doing it. Had to do that last week (then again the servers were super laggy for Tuesday launch)

[high echo]

isnt that a little useless for strictly ST fights

[south kayak]

Indeed it is but they've done this to easily tune between ST and AoE

[high echo]

i hope theres some ST compensation then, via slayer strikes maybe

itll prob feel great in aoe

[south kayak]

Yeah that would be the way to do it

[olive wraith]

Or aa

[south kayak]

We're talking about Slayer specifically

AAs are global

[olive wraith]

Sure but thane could also use st buff

[south kayak]

I think it's pretty easy to buff Thane ST too

Just buff lighting strikes

But AA buff would be nice

I think they shouldn't have nerfed it that much

[zenith moat]

not a single warrior on first liquid mythic split

actually yipz

[frank dawn]

Wait…mythic split?

How does that work

[remote bobcat]

if you know you wont progress the higher bosses until some point, then you can split the group into 2 via alts and funnel gear into one half

then you meet back up one week later and boom, double the gear from week 1

[merry scaffold]

Honestly I'm not surprised, I'm typically the only Fury Warrior in most of my pugs, maybe one more if it's not the tank here and there

[lofty delta]

what's the best talent to remove to pick up enraged regen?

the bloodthirst execute one?

[safe carbon]

hey guys when should we switch to powerful enrage?

[remote bobcat]

warpaint innit

[safe carbon]

I tried playing powerful enrage with 20% haste and it felt like ass

[lofty delta]

one defensive for another is eh, i'm trying to improve my defensivesness by dropping a dps talent

[silk matrix]

Once you have the 4th set, the property of Odyssey's Fury increases, I suppose?

[remote bobcat]

Odyssey's Fury 🔥 💯

[dense elbow]

You are welcome

[rotund ginkgo]

went from 263 0 loot to this in 3 bosses

trinket in vault, lfr+heroic tiers, 2 catalysts

8k dps incerase

kekw

[dense elbow]

8k kinda big, I am happy for ya

[rotund ginkgo]

impos to parse vs ppl that are 269 ilvl with full gear

hooooly

[dense elbow]

Just got to play a lot better

[rotund ginkgo]

i mean

i parsed a 99 and a 93

with 0p 263 and champ offhadn

[dense elbow]

Quite solid, I would say

[rotund ginkgo]

crown was giga hectic

we 27 manned it and had like 6 deaths and ppl scuffed

couldnt do shit

went from an insane pull (like 120k p1) to an awful pull

[dense elbow]

always the aweful pull when ppl start playing to win

[rotund ginkgo]

no i mean

my pull was insane

but everyone started playing ass p3

so i had to spend too many resources on nto doingd damage

d-stance/impendign victory, going away to get eaten by a line to lose the debuff etc

and losing uptime

happens tho

[median falcon]

Do delver map in midnight on a 11 delve not drop extra mythic crest?

[rotund ginkgo]

at least we full cleared lfr+nm+hc

in 1 day

u need delve journey level 4 iirc

[median falcon]

I have that and I got no extra crest, just the 5 even with map use

[sour thorn]

how do you get more catalyzt? only got one from a random delve last week and ive done like 11 m+s

[rotund ginkgo]

ur limited to only 3 or 4 a day or a week iirc @median falcon

[remote bobcat]

10% per completion

[rotund ginkgo]

u need 4p

[remote bobcat]

and u need 4 piece for random drops

[sour thorn]

yes already have 4pc

[rotund ginkgo]

then ig just rng

[sour thorn]

ok

thanks

[median falcon]

EH didn't really answer my question. I know the 20 max mythic crest 5 a pop running 4 delves. I am asknig about the delver map used on a 11 not dropping extra mythic crest specifically 10

and yes I am level 4

[upbeat plume]

we do get a catalyst charge next week right?

[wheat lake]

Noob question: is switching to defensive stance a viable “defensive” when personals are requested by the healers?

[blissful phoenix]

It’s there to mitigate damage so yes

[rotund ginkgo]

yes, it is

[rotund ginkgo]

i dont recall the delve map getting me an extra 10

could be wrong

[blissful phoenix]

The one I did today had 10 Hero and 5 Myth in it, the Gilded Chest

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah the 5 myth i think are from the delve 4

[kind crystal]

i am the only one feeling fury thane in m+ is a pain, you barely compete on big pulls and on bosses

[pure breach]

I’m not feeling that ngl

[lofty delta]

I feel like Thane fucks in m+

We're not the giga pull class but you only giga pull in low keys that are whatever. When you're higher and doing 1-3 packs, thane is great.

[fervent tundra]

Can feel low compared to other specs as we are target capped

[blissful phoenix]

It feels consistent and that’s where we shine when other specs may blow loads and then enter a valley period

[fervent tundra]

100% this

[kind crystal]

hmm they blow loud but given the pacing in m+ it feels like i can't catch up then their cds are back

[fervent tundra]

You should be able to rip cds on most packs

[lofty delta]

Your tank isn't shuffling fast enough then

[olive wraith]

Thane is?

[lofty delta]

I'm popping CDs every pack pretty much

[blissful phoenix]

I think it’s also early on with volatile gear setups among groups and also dependent on M+ levels being run and pull cadence

[fervent tundra]

From memory it’s a soft cap

[olive wraith]

As are most classes these days

[fervent tundra]

Most big packs doing 300k+ then smaller doing 200k+

[lofty delta]

Tier is also huge

[fervent tundra]

But I see warlock and shamans doing 400-500k+

[lofty delta]

I went from 0p to 4p and felt like my damage doubled

[buoyant elm]

is our tier set good this season

[fervent tundra]

Not as good as some classes but it’s not bad imo

It’s average

[olive wraith]

Aren’t loks Giga busted

[fervent tundra]

In terms of % increase I think when compared across all

[fervent tundra]

Fr

[buoyant elm]

destro feels shafted tho looks like demos broken

[fervent tundra]

Demo is really nice atm

[twin hazel]

i had a raid lead say i need throw spec'd for lightblinded vanguard is that just wrecking throw or is it shattering throw?

[marble swift]

do we still get a free tier token at 2k?

[fervent tundra]

Cata charge

[fervent tundra]

Not sure what you mean, but u don’t think we play shattering throw at all so would be wrecking most likely

[spring lantern]

shattering would be for the immunity on pull if you dont have a priest i guess

but generally we play wrecking for normal shield damage, idk why your RL would be asking for that specifically tho

[fervent tundra]

Exactly this

[marble swift]

thanks

[twin hazel]

it was a pug tbh i didn't think much at the time but then i was like am i missing some tech or something, thanks all i get it now

i understood wrecking is standard

[unkempt galleon]

are we just sending hero crests on bis

[fickle cedar]

usually on good pieces (chest/head/pants/1 trinket/1 ring) that are at least 3/6 hero

[hardy vault]

Hello! I need help! Am I the only one having issues with the enrage bar? The bar is bugged, the enrage disappears quite often.

[fast grail]

chat, do we feel meh in raid? I feel like I am smack down the middle even on good pulls

[dense elbow]

Being around high-mid to top is kinda the range to expect. All based on how you get to pad on adds

[fast grail]

Yeah, some of these pure single targs are not feeling good

[dense elbow]

Oh, pure ST we are plain old mid

[fast grail]

but the fights with cleave feel great

[bold forge]

It should be pretty standard to be in the top third of dps

[dense elbow]

Depends on your raid comp, no

[olive wraith]

Did you give your thoughts on the .5 changes

[dense elbow]

It's ok, if they do more with it

[nocturne jungle]

Why is the upgrade on my 2nd 2H not free after crafting 285

[dense elbow]

relog

[olive wraith]

Relog

[nocturne jungle]

Worked ty!
Sure this has been asked several times

[dense elbow]

Since day 1 of the system

[nocturne jungle]

Im glad yall still nice about it

[olive wraith]

The only time we get mean is when you debate Df s2 and s3 tier

[rustic grotto]

are people really using mt thane for all the bosses in raid?

[sterile stratus]

tragically

[warm crag]

hc is kinda moving into faceroll territory wouldnt look at it for performance too much

[dense elbow]

DFs1 deserved to win, damn it! AND YOU ALL KNOW IT!

[rustic grotto]

a lot of the top spots are taken by mt thane and its being played inj mythic boss logs as well

[muted pecan]

If you dream about df, we need anither leggo axe that gives 5% dps

[winter shoal]

You can if you want, there's an argument to be made for either

[rustic grotto]

but guides say use slayer

[winter shoal]

top logs are just going to be a padding contest

[olive wraith]

If I had an ounce of faith that Blizz would properly buff its playstyle to be relevant I agree

[winter shoal]

heroic adds already evaporate in 1 gcd

[dense elbow]

That was my dream, to see them flayl about doing the 3000% buff

[hushed dust]

Yo, what sim settings do you guys use when picking gear? Just patchwerk? Dungeon slice?

[quartz mesa]

How much damage am i expected to lose from not having sky fury in a raid?

[winter shoal]

patchwerk 1t 5m and 5t 5m

[dense elbow]

About a windfury buffs worth of loss

You can sim it, if you want to

[rustic grotto]

melee seems to be a lot of out damage these days

[hushed dust]

That being patchwerk 5 bosses?

[winter shoal]

Yeah sorry 1t = 1 target, 5t = 5 target

Also change simc version to latest

[hushed dust]

++ thanks I play fury I cant read

[winter shoal]

[quartz mesa]

I am trying to figure out how to sim it is why i asked here.

[warm crag]

you can run a sim with and without skyfury

[hushed dust]

I wish there was a way to bulde two sims at once and combine them

[native wadi]

Holy shit

[drowsy heron]

so how good are the .5 changes?

[native wadi]

Im 268 and I hit like a wet noodle

Got abused in hc

[dense elbow]

scroll down the options page, you will see raidbuffs

turn off WF

[winter shoal]

it's about 3.3k dps for me, so like 4.5%

[native wadi]

Now there is no padding everyone deletes everything xD

[rustic grotto]

my rampage is 19778 in slayer and 24722 in mt than is this one of the reasons so many are playing mt than even on salad bar?

[native wadi]

I have 2 hunts 2 devourer 2 locks my logs are over for this season

[winter shoal]

Just play for boss dam

[native wadi]

We dont have that either

I checked the alleria log

P3

[winter shoal]

I meant you play for boss dam

[upper mica]

i sthere a good add on for spell reflects telling me when im targetted?

[native wadi]

I have a 95

[winter shoal]

Pure ethical eric single target

[native wadi]

And im almost last

XD

[winter shoal]

Okay then the rest of your raid is griefing

There's 0 reason to pad on alleria

add damage is irrelevant

[native wadi]

Its a one shot boss

Padding is ethical

[dense elbow]

To you, perhaps, but for the rest of the world - that pad, is what holds things up

[native wadi]

To steal lunch from your fellow raiders

And make them parse green

But rlly wtf is this raid

Everything dies in 2gcd

And doesnt spawn mele range

[winter shoal]

all I'm saying is when you embrace going for boss dam logs instead of overall logs, you will experience true happiness

[warm crag]

its hc

[native wadi]

I wanna eat toi

Too

[warm crag]

the sooner you stop caring abt hc parses the sooner you reach ascension

[native wadi]

Yeah but still is 2nd week

True that

[bitter palm]

go boost idk

if u have a group of half humans

[native wadi]

I tried arms in nm to farm tiers

[bitter palm]

u will never parse high

[native wadi]

I sucked did 55k

[winter shoal]

If people are allocating their damage to adds when adds aren't a prog bottleneck, that's just an active grief

[native wadi]

Then i realized thays a 95

[warm crag]

come back 20 ilvls ahead in 5 weeks and youll have pink hc logs wowie

[winter shoal]

If it's not prog then who cares anyways

[olive wraith]

Tooltip damage is largely irrelevant

[wild elbow]

chimaerus overall parse 77 damage to bosses parse 99

[winter shoal]

Me when adds die in one global

[upbeat plume]

so just got 4 set, I assume rampage dosent really change in the ability prio due to that

[tulip anchor]

would you use myth crests to craft a weapon or hold the crests for gear upgrades?

[echo rapids]

Is one of those upgrades a myth weapon?

[tulip anchor]

probably not in the near future, and i would have to get lucky twice in vault

[drowsy heron]

does the WW cancel Aura still work?

[winter shoal]

weapon

[echo rapids]

Then I think you have your answer

[tulip anchor]

fair enough :p

[thorny cove]

man I suck

I got beat by a veng dh on skyreach

[modest condor]

skypeach

[echo rapids]

Not mad, just…disappointed

[rotund ginkgo]

academy 10 we love to see it

[echo rapids]

That MM looking back at the tank dps

[modest condor]

cant wait till im geared and i can start doing dps

running around with ilvl 252 right now, mostly because of my weapon

[thorny cove]

is arms better in keys with buffs?

I can feel the aoe cap on fury

[bitter palm]

colo arms does 200k here

[rotund ginkgo]

4p feels good

[olive wraith]

Man it’s crazy to think fury is hard capped in 2026

[rotund ginkgo]

@bitter palm didnt ask + lame + one 2h + bozo + stand in place + angle gameplay + rage management + didnt ask

https://klipy.com/gifs/cope-seethe-25

[bitter palm]

vs

[dense elbow]

If you cleaved that ramp, u would win

[next mica]

why does sim cast odyn's fury b4 avatar+reck rather then after it instantly?

[rotund ginkgo]

omegatrue

JUST U WAIT FOR FURY CHANGES

[bitter palm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1486531410318852267/is-screaming-lion-vs-monkey-with-hand-even-close-v0-uplp3i6m5uae1.png?ex=69c5d7c2&is=69c48642&hm=75a7048e8cda29e8fea56faf285cc4e8f63fdbcf01783cc9ae37b72b98069e40&

gg embed

[dense elbow]

Vs

[ember garden]

fury isn't hard capped since u do so much damage with tclap now

[olive wraith]

Costs a global. Bb/ cb are better

Plus the OF dot is still rolling when you hit your cds

[next mica]

i dont think i belive you though

[dense elbow]

So what you are saying is:
OF needs a big dam buff

[next mica]

it looks to me like its optimal cause you get a cast of odyns fury with 4set anyway at the end of ur avatar

but you wont allways get that

[peak ivy]

Im sad cause I just suck and single target

[dense elbow]

Well, stop sucking and being single, target happiness

Step 1) pad more on adds

Step 2) brag here

Step 3) ???

Step 4) profit

(bonus glee if you link big st sims)

[sullen dove]

i have the biggest st sim ever seen by modern man prepped if I can ever get this last ring out of nexus point to drop

[grim prism]

does dungeon slice work for fury or arms

[dry hawk]

chiema dragon thane still it seems?

[sudden tusk]

omission of smish

[hollow cove]

How much damage does the tier set provide? 4p

[sullen dove]

bout 4% st probably bit more on aoe

[limpid tide]

is it crazy to play slayer on crown

[modest condor]

wow they massacred saladbar compared to last raid

[sullen dove]

lore accurate

[peak ivy]

best reply ever

[zinc python]

with puzzle box are we holding it for when our avatar/recklessness is up or just sending on cd?

[modest condor]

hold

[mossy pelican]

oh god

we're getting a 12% aura nerf

[eternal wolf]

?

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-uma-musume-meme-taiki-shuttle-this-is-not-tuff-twin-twin-gif-8269833105191375676

[gleaming crag]

so is arcane mastery really the best enchant cause archon is listing it as 33% used

top mythic plus are using acuity of the rendori

[fluid cedar]

anyone notice any trinkets doing better in practice vs sims ? or vise versa

like... very noticeable better in game vs sims / simbait

[upbeat plume]

I think the only simbait trinket is that jar from caverns

[winter shoal]

You can sim which is better with the gear you have

acuity is better for me currently

[gleaming crag]

for like dungeon slice?

[obtuse sentinel]

bro what?

[gleaming crag]

wheres that stated?

[sullen dove]

save this screenshot

(very real)

(definitely not a lie)

[sick viper]

theres like no grps this week for heroic crown wtf is going on

[lament lagoon]

are we recrafting Mythic wep this week

[sullen dove]

yes

[lament lagoon]

gang

need 3 more crest

[inland flame]

Got a Fury topping Liquid's mythic dragons pulls get ready for the Nerubar boogaloo /s

[sullen dove]

yepge

[mossy pelican]

^

[upper mica]

ok let me try again 😛

For m+ does anyone have any good addons for spell reflect assist?

[mossy pelican]

12% aura nerf inc

[sullen dove]

the only thing they better do is nerf tc

and maybe buff tb to not be cringe

[rugged cedar]

guys, my single target in m+ is balls. is this me? im thane with the wowhead recommended build.

[olive wraith]

How balls

Are you doing rotation correctly

What’s your ilvl

Need details friend

[rugged cedar]

246 ilvl, doing about 3/4 of a warlock, mage, hunter or half inside of lust

keeping reasonably close in overall

[sullen dove]

well inside lust yea

you dont burst very high

[rugged cedar]

but it's dragging ass in ST

[sullen dove]

if a boss fight lasts like 2min+ it should somewhat even out a bit

[rugged cedar]

i very rarely press raging blow

[sullen dove]

tho idk about mage lock st is pretty low burst too

just consistently high

[rugged cedar]

this feels liability bad

[sullen dove]

also can easily jump like 5-10k dps with a good set of cds during execute phase of boss

i mean until youre doing like an 18+ idk if anyone is gonna think ur a liability for m+ boss damage

[lean heart]

fellas we are so fucking back

[rugged cedar]

okay ill wait and reassess at a real keylevel

[marble pilot]

So are logs just weird on chimerus.

Logged dps was like 11k lower than my personal one

[sullen dove]

details resets sometimes between intermissions

[loud locust]

off topic but i thought trial of style makes it to where tmog changes are free?

[sullen dove]

can make things weird/not line up

i suppose if boss dies like immediately after first set of adds and you go down and attack them and pad huge your details might look higher

tho think in general p uncommon for dps to go up after a reset like that cuz u no longer have your lust dps included

[dry hawk]

is it worth catalyzing 2p if its champion?

[modest condor]

no, only catalyze if you can make 4p

[spare steppe]

is there a way you can cleave the dragons at the same time?

in p1/p2

[deep sapphire]

So with how terrible the tier is for raid, about how much of a gain is it in M+?

[nocturne bluff]

Enjoy your 4.5% dmg boost, goy

Which arguably gets negated by vers stats on the tier pieces themselves over other haste/mastery/crit items

[sullen dove]

its good for the non single target portions of raid

so the whole raid still

[deep sapphire]

???? You get Crit haste and mastery from four piece, no verse

[sullen dove]

yea only 1 out of our 5 pieces has any verse with like 30 verse and you dont even wear that one lol

[stoic star]

Do you get more crests timing a 12? I didnt see anything about it on the wowhead M+ rewards like it did last season

[sly bobcat]

Skyreacharound is so free

Fuck AA

Got to 2800 today being a stinky gamer