i cant
#fury
unborn delta
coarse nest
Think I have 87 vers stat lol
coarse nest
True and real
quiet geyser
love that we're a class with "meh" st dam, and great cleave dam
quiet geyser
but get a tier set that makes us cleave better
unborn delta
i gotta work 🙁
gonna wait till all the plate ppl farm almost all their bis then ill do runs with them and get traded everything
unborn delta
are you enraged
verbal steppe
Yes
remote bobcat
I cant fucking pop off more dmg than 50k
verbal steppe
Most of the time
elder plover
How is everyone simming at the moment? is it Patchwerk 5 min 1 target?
winter shoal
Yeah I do 1t 5m and 5t 5m
elder plover
Cheers
quiet geyser
eh @winter shoal grats on piss!
winter shoal
Tyty I am become piss
remote bobcat
Tyty I am become piss
strong monolith
unborn delta
gz on mythes
finite oxide
Noob question, i leveled a havoc to lvl 80 first char but am loving the dracthyr fury warrior look, how are they when compared dos wise
I kinda dislike that havoc only really does damage in meta
finite oxide
I will play mostly solo but am intrested in the group content
finite oxide
big add dam
I solo content more adds or boss
remote bobcat
I solo content more adds or boss
in solo content its kinda equal
finite oxide
I believe i need to do delves for gear
lethal quiver
guys i've a feeling i'm not using bloodbath enough
remote bobcat
both warr and dh have very upfront dmg
calm swallow
Yippee!
remote bobcat
guys i've a feeling i'm not using bloodbath enough
dmg breakdown doesnt answer your question, logs do
finite oxide
both warr and dh have very upfront dmg
I mean thats nice i can switch around without feeling like a downgrade
Maybe make 1 for st and one for aoe
wooden scarab
so I don't make a hero weapon and just make a 259 one? so I can improve it to gilded this week or should I send the hero weapon
keen kindle
I kinda dislike that havoc only really does damage in meta
Tbh the majority of wow classes only do damage in cds
remote bobcat
I mean thats nice i can switch around without feeling like a downgrade
Yea the thing that will feel like a downgrade is healer and setup based specs like shadowpriest for example
remote bobcat
so I don't make a hero weapon and just make a 259 one? so I can improve it to gi...
259 weapon now. dont use hero crests. recraft with myth crests once you get 80 myth crests next week or beyond
wooden scarab
Sweet thank you
finite oxide
Yea the thing that will feel like a downgrade is healer and setup based specs li...
Thanks
winter shoal
It is 80 yeah
finite oxide
Tbh the majority of wow classes only do damage in cds
i will just have to get used to having downtime inbetween burst is what it comes down to
nocturne bluff
i mean you only have like 20 seconds of downtime between reck
and around 30-35 between BS
(adjusting for buff duration)
remote bobcat
i mean you only have like 20 seconds of downtime between reck
not while questing and delving and other solo content, which was the initial proposition
finite oxide
Im still leveling but im less in meta then in meta with havoc maybe that changes later
nocturne bluff
gotcha, i didnt read above
finite oxide
So for me fury i suppose will feel beter cause it has less build up if i say that right
remote bobcat
So for me fury i suppose will feel beter cause it has less build up if i say tha...
likely
unborn delta
we dont actually know
nocturne bluff
Can't wait for higher tiers where you have like 40%+ haste and you can practically overlap reck from Rampage spam
Assuming there isn't some DR ceiling that makes such a thing unobtainable
bold forge
Fury is satisfying because of its kinda flat damage profile , you’re just constantly plonking and the challenge is maximising melee uptime and hitting your rotation as perfectly as possible you don’t really have the time to be bored
keen kindle
Some people like flat profiles even it does make you perform worse
finite oxide
Sounds like a good thing
remote bobcat
flat profiles suck in raid settings 🥀
keen kindle
In keys too
remote bobcat
i disagree personally
I like having big pp burst in keys
but always having dmg in keys is nice
sullen dove
Yippee!
thick
i like current thane cuz its like half burst half flat
your in cds damage is like 3x higher than out of cds damage but that damage lasts like 30 seconds
v consistent
remote bobcat
same
keen kindle
Yeah consistency in keys feels great
bold forge
I like the constant precise button mashing aspect of fury, feels like tryharding street fighter back in the day
indigo harbor
how are they getting the 4 set this early ?
remote bobcat
how are they getting the 4 set this early ?
1 catalyst by existing
1 catalyst by getting 1.6k rating in pvp
2 pieces from raid
indigo harbor
i see ty
dense night
Is there some delay time we hold in order to BT or BB after a rampage? I have these odd windows of like .25 and .5 seconds that i can use my next ability and its not BT or BB and everytime I dont wait it feels like a mistake. that or im crazy and need to adjust my UI better
trim lava
1 catalyst by existing
1 catalyst by getting 1.6k rating in pvp
2 pieces from ra...
where r we getting the free catalyst?
bold forge
Is there some delay time we hold in order to BT or BB after a rampage? I have th...
This is why we have a priority list for rotation, you’re supposed to cast the next ability down in line don’t overthink it. Over a minutes long engagement it’s a dps gain for sure not to waste gcd
unkempt oasis
By drawing breath
remote bobcat
once u hit 90 i tihnk u get it by talking to the catalyst npc
dense night
This is why we have a priority list for rotation, you’re supposed to cast the ne...
i appreciate that. It just feels like im missing BB and BT casts compared to others on logs. Back to the dummies and il see if im just doing something stupid
desert dirge
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fGS6zxi8Tofp2XEXiSL1Nv
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9mNs5BWDdExFbp2QvHJf67
Why does my ST and AOE spec do almost the same ST 😭
if im fucking something up pls let me know
remote bobcat
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fGS6zxi8Tofp2XEXiSL1Nv
https://www.raidbo...
you're simming 1 target as thane as slayer. they are relatively close in single target (slayer edges out by a little bit)
thats it
slim coral
Blizz cooked with the size of this weapon but what the fuck is suppose to go with this
remote bobcat
if you want to sim AoE situations then you need to increase target count
desert dirge
if you want to sim AoE situations then you need to increase target count
Is it wrong that it feels bad that theyre so close? I cant decide if thats good or bad design.
Play what you want I guess?
bold forge
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fGS6zxi8Tofp2XEXiSL1Nv
https://www.raidbo...
It is known that playing slayer even for almost pure single target situations is a small dps optimization over thane atm, still probably worth it
remote bobcat
Is it wrong that it feels bad that theyre so close? I cant decide if thats good ...
i mean yea lol
preference or sum
doesnt rly matter
desert dirge
Only boss Im playing slayer is Salhadaar.
Literally everything else, meh lol
Thane I feel like is more forgiving if my coolies arent lined up for adds.
remote bobcat
trust me ur gonna be playing more slayer in the future most likely
everyone gets more damage
so burst and more ST gains value
desert dirge
our tier seems to be adding more to both xD
but yeah you prolly right
numbers go up, delta increases
quiet geyser
just play thane for everything, if not for the fact its just more fun
bold forge
I don’t think it’s more fun personally I prefer the pure bashing fantasy aspect of slayer over thunder spam like we’re shaman larping
It’s just too good not to play atm
quiet geyser
personally I feel like slayer felt 10x better being RB focused
if not in execute or having reck up, slayer feels awful
desert dirge
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IRQxUiD1PNI?feature=share
Thane Gameplay guide (pro) (liquid) (gone sexual)
bold forge
At least whirlwind I can try to pretend mentally it’s tbc and it slaps
SWEEPING STRIKES ONE WHIRLWIND
quiet geyser
I really hope they buff RB, preferably through slayer talent tree so thane can stay BT focused, and then buff bloodcraze, so slayer would weave in the occasional big BT
wooden scarab
for the 259 weapon I dont use sparks right?
desert dirge
Traditionally mythic craft requires one of those modifier items right? +x amount to item level?
god I hope its not awful to get
quiet geyser
ya just reg crests
deft palm
When do we pop pot? When we pop recklessness?
bold forge
It’s nice to line it up with cooldowns of course
If you’re rich just macro it with cds button
It’s a big expense but it should unironically improve your performance a lot
You won’t not press it subconsciously due to stinginess
upbeat hound
are we using raid cleave build for the dream raid?
bold forge
Yeah the ads phases are a huge opportunity to pump
upbeat hound
and we just using the wowhead multi correct?
smoky nacelle
When do we pop pot? When we pop recklessness?
I'm pre potting still. So I can pot again 5mins later
sullen dove
potting on pull i assume u mean
smoky nacelle
Prepot-wait 2 secs for combat and begin opener
sullen dove
doing it before doing any damage kinda pointless
should prolly just use it the moment u press reck or something
noble pulsar
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
sullen dove
charge > reck/pot/cds > go
modest condor
┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)
sullen dove
just some wasted time
smoky nacelle
Most fights are longer than 5mins
sullen dove
yea
quiet geyser
hes saying still pot on pull
plush maple
charge > reck/pot/cds > go
I have a separate cooldown macro that includes pots for pulls
quiet geyser
just dont do it before actual combat
sullen dove
not like its a huge deal just a few seconds of not hitting buttons with pot up
quiet geyser
otherwise u waste 2~ seconds of it
smoky nacelle
Just a habit I have before the change
sullen dove
yea change was like... 2-3 expacs ago i feel like..
but yea
used to be a thing
like insta reset cd on pull
so it carried over
sullen dove
deft palm
Ty guys
feral ivy
delve map is pure RNG right?
ruby current
apologies is this is posted in an obvious place, but is there a simple resource of what hero talent+build per boss fight
steel shard
ruby current
i meant more of a 1pager but i appreciate that
sudden heath
Am I being unrealistic in trying to solo tier 9 delves at 240 ilvl?
sudden heath
the 3 pack of elite dogs just ate my lunch two pulls in a row
dense elbow
Gear is simply an easy way for you to make the content more doable
It kinda is a chosen difficulty
floral anchor
delve map is pure RNG right?
Yes, and I got that stupid Sealed Chaos Jar one. The trinket that fears you for 5 seconds 30 seconds after use….. insane that it’s even in the game. I heard a friend of mine who’s a hunter got a healing trinket. I opened a ticket. Hahahaha
heavy dock
the 3 pack of elite dogs just ate my lunch two pulls in a row
Those dogs are disgusting
sudden heath
I just switched Valeera to tank and let her deal with their shit lol
heavy dock
Its the same mob from majestic skinning and its the only one that could actually dmg my alts
Rupturing bite hurts a lot
Now imagine 3 cast at the same time xD
Im playing prot in delves with valeera dps but stunning them during the bite cast works best
The other nemesis enemies are a big pushover comparatively
neat python
If Raidbot sims me at 60k... at the Boss-Dummy i hit 33k... were is my skill-issue? 😄
little glen
Am I being unrealistic in trying to solo tier 9 delves at 240 ilvl?
You should be able 2 ez set follower to healer
fallow escarp
Has anyone here crafted the Loa ring, its saying on my sim its giving a good dmg boost.
Or thallisan phoneix
sullen dove
doubt itd do much more than the other 2 embells that are known to be the other crafts
like hunt weapon or arcanoweave armor
are you like droptimizering crafted gear is that where u see that
sullen dove
yea it wont put non-inherent embells on crafted gear
recrafting no
but yea hunt and arcano you have to manually put into crafted gear
fallow escarp
BIS embillshment for Wrist
sullen dove
which i think doesnt show up in droptimizer
fallow escarp
yeah i dont think it is
sullen dove
so ring is prolly like.. the third best embell
or ig best embell that comes with an item
but i would imagine still not as good as the other normal ones
fallow escarp
arcanoweave lining is bis embell for wrist or
sullen dove
yea
fallow escarp
Thank you, i am simming 60k dps single target and hitting 59k, just gotta make sure i hit bloodbath more lol
sullen dove
ye bb big strong
naive eagle
What talents are you guys going with?
west furnace
are we to have a cancel aura for bladestorm?
bold carbon
so the guides like maxroll and wowhead have conflicting information like when to ramapge 100 vs max rage count
anyone know which is right
slim coral
What talents are you guys going with?
for what
slim coral
are we to have a cancel aura for bladestorm?
no
slim coral
so the guides like maxroll and wowhead have conflicting information like when to...
yes ramp at 100
tawny flax
Hey guys, u mind helping me with something? Craft wise, why is the sword the go to craft, when the mace has a higher base dmg, with the same speed and dmg per sec. When you have the same dmg per sec and the same speed, base dmg doesnt influence in anything?
Is it because of the max dmg? 253 agaist 281
young swan
damage ranges were normalized a long time ago, any damage range you see is purely cosmetic
or almost purely cosmetic
tawny flax
ohh, k, just the better looking then
candid ravine
everything procs when playing thane im kinda confuse about prio can someone help ?
slim coral
everything procs when playing thane im kinda confuse about prio can someone help...
ok first question have you read the wowhead guide
on the rotation
candid ravine
yes i did
slim coral
ok so where do you get confused with the procs in combat
candid ravine
when bursting all bloodbath rampage and execute procs
so if i have +100 rage i rampage
slim coral
is this for aoe or st
slim coral
generally you want to spend your thunderblast procs asap because they dont stack past 2
after that you focus ramp only when not enraged and above 100 rage
then you focus bb/bt
exec would be after that
rb is nothing left
candid ravine
so charge>reck/avatar>OF>tb>ramp
okay
i was confused when all the skills glowing yellow feels like im missing something
slim coral
yeah that's fair
candid ravine
thanks for help wishing you good night !
bold carbon
also does somebody have a visual of how far your post whirlwind atks will cleave
trim lava
for mythic+ is thane a big aoe dps increase compared to slayer like 10% more?
asking for a friend he doesn't want to swap from aoe slayer
sullen dove
also does somebody have a visual of how far your post whirlwind atks will cleave
probably roughly melee range in a radius around you
haughty token
do we raid st as slayer or thane?
sullen dove
for mythic+ is thane a big aoe dps increase compared to slayer like 10% more?
its probably pretty significant especially on much higher target count aoe but i mean unless he planning to push like super high keys slayer should be adequate enough for like vault keys
maybe closer to 15-20% on aoe and a tiny bit behind on st
sullen dove
do we raid st as slayer or thane?
bit of both boss by boss
haughty token
saladbar
haughty token
ok thanks
sullen dove
vorasius salad alleria chimerus maybe imperator
you can thane or slayer decently enough those last 3
but dragons and council def a lot better as thane
@dapper goblet
dapper goblet
never played pala with that openis talent
going from dk to this pink donkey is crazy though
full topaz
where do yall look for good guilds that are pushing raids
slim coral
do we raid st as slayer or thane?
mix of both for saladbar you go slayer
sullen dove
going from dk to this pink donkey is crazy though
u guys want a split pig in a bout 5min 😄
if no kil
jovial mauve
how much mastery are ya'll hitting for progging heroic/mythic next week? I feel like my damage is so low
winter shoal
where do yall look for good guilds that are pushing raids
warcraftlogs has a recruitment function that's quite good
winter shoal
how much mastery are ya'll hitting for progging heroic/mythic next week? I feel ...
However much the sim tells me, which is currently 740 unbuffed with the gear I have available
jovial mauve
I mean that's only 60 more than me which I dont think would make a big difference
serene socket
However much the sim tells me, which is currently 740 unbuffed with the gear I h...
this might be a dumb question, but are you able to see total stats on the simming page or you are just referencing the number you see in game
jovial mauve
my sim has me doing 46k ST at 246 ilvl which feels pretty meh
winter shoal
this might be a dumb question, but are you able to see total stats on the simmin...
I'm just simming top gear and putting on the items it says - you can see the actual stats if you go to the HTML report, but there's not really any reason to
winter shoal
my sim has me doing 46k ST at 246 ilvl which feels pretty meh
Link the sim, that sounds pretty low
I sim a bit over 70k at like 256 or so
jovial mauve
will do, i'm running another one
serene socket
I sim a bit over 70k at like 256 or so
same
odd crater
Guys I'm eternally stuck around 76 x.x
jovial mauve
I know i'm down a couple of enchants/gems and stuff too. Didnt want to spend a fortune before m+ gear. Is that really going to pop me up like 20k+ dps? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bEwuuYDzb5PfadfY2ujj2L
winter shoal
This guy is playing ER 
But nah I think your problem is that you have all your raid buffs disabled big dog
at a glance
- upgrade your offhand to 259, shouldn't cost any crests
- craft a second embellishment, probably on your wrists (80 vet crests, no spark)
- vers > haste neck is a bit unfortunate, you probably want the ZA rep neck
- just generally send your crests to upgrade stuff, everything below hero crests is going to be irrelevant next week anyways
jovial mauve
ah, never clicked that off not sure why the raid buffs weren't on, that was an oversight on my part
offhand is vet unfortunately so it's maxed out, that'll obviously be replaced when i'm grinding out m+.
Good to know about the non-spark craft, that's easy enough.
I guess I'll hit m+ hard and try to move stats around with hero slots
west furnace
so ther seem to be 2 build the MT and Slayer builds... why should i run one over the other?? is it just preference at this point cause they seem to be run on every fighht
winter shoal
They do similar single target damage (slayer is ~3% higher), thane does higher sustained aoe (~15% higher on 5 targets) but slayer does higher burst aoe
jovial mauve
I miss aoe slayer from last season 🙁
winter shoal
Realistically you can play whichever
Slayer in M+ will probably be noticeably worse but if you're not pushing title range keys then who cares
west furnace
im more asking for raid atm. M+ is MT for me 🙂
so basically its kinda preference unless lots of adds that last a bit
winter shoal
Yeah there are arguments to be made either way but that's more or less how I'd think about it
west furnace
winter shoal
I will say though, you almost certainly want to play thane on council
frail prism
which pot should we be using? wowhead has recklessness, but i feel like light's potential may be better...and wowhead looks weird because it shows recklessness twice.
odd crater
I ran Recklessness tonight, Light's Potential a prior raid. I don't think it matters too much, but I liked Recklessness more
winter shoal
Recklessness is like 250 more dps for me
so 0.35% or so
Not nothing, but also not worth losing sleep over
odd crater
For me it’s the frost mage in my guild who parses 96’s lol
hybrid yew
why am i playing this class 😭 , i have a sunk cost into (Fury) warrior playing this character for 20+ years
odd crater
Because Fury is fun, and Warrior is life
odd crater
rare garnet
why am i playing this class 😭 , i have a sunk cost into (Fury) warrior playing...
ask myself that every time i watch a ranged POV
hybrid yew
i'm in too deep, i have like 500 days played on this character, i cant stop
odd crater
Remember, while the lows may be low right now, the highs are oh so high
plush hawk
Thoughts on Saptor paw? I can't find it anywhere on blood mallet or in the trinket pages on the guides online, and raidbots is showing it's pretty strong but I just wanted to know if anyone had dug deeper into it
I got it on hero track and trying to determine whether or not to keep it
hybrid yew
personaly i feel like all the trinkets this season are really underwhelming, i.e. no single trinket will crack the dps by an extra crazy amount like back in WW
plush hawk
thats valid
hybrid yew
which oculd be a good thing, balance-wise
hasty grail
Thoughts on Saptor paw? I can't find it anywhere on blood mallet or in the trink...
I've been running saptors paw, it seems really good, sims really well. They rank it as the worst cuz there's no way to get myth track
Myth track of anything half decent is probably beating it
plush hawk
yeah, that's fair enough. at least the benefit for me is that there are a few slots to make myth before both trinkets likely are to get there so it's probably worth keeping on hero track for now
hasty grail
But I have a hero track heart + champ track saptors fully upgraded, and none of the hero track stuff is beating the champ saptors in sims. (for me).
plush hawk
cuz 2 handed wep will be one, myth tier pieces, 1 other trinket slot already, etc.
Yeah I simmed vessel with alg box and saptor and it's actually showing that the saptor and vessel would be 2k more dps than saptor and alg box
im only 240 ilvl rn though, so that could change as I push past 250
hasty grail
box is pretty bad on st
Is there a haste/mastery soft cap that we should be looking out for? Trying to figure out why some of these sims seem so counterintuitive
sullen dove
not an official cap but sims might look weird if u have more haste than mast and are simming potion of recklessness
cuz you rly want your pot to not give you haste
if so
hasty grail
Ahh yeah, I'm 834 haste 782 mast
umbral gull
go sleep until m+ now
hasty grail
cuz you rly want your pot to not give you haste
think it makes sense for me to switch pots? or re itemize?
sullen dove
pots probably easier
maybe eventually sim should lean you towards a bit more mastery
but im sure dps should go up by like 1k minimum if u swap pots
good enough stopgap for now
spare steppe
Chunk of annoying trinkets this season. Puzzle box, dragon equipment, the vessel, etc
sullen dove
good thing all the best ones are out of raid and completely passive 
spare steppe
Basically yeah. Gonna farm solarflare+rep trinket and use until I get raid trinkets 🙁
summer quail
puzzle stonks might rise in mythic. still undersimming afaik
spare steppe
Feels shitty to use though. I hated using idol last season and that was shorter
deft palm
should we just stay spec'd into playing with improved WW?
sullen dove
pmuch
deft palm
i thought as much
i was doing the fights today for the first time i realized how many cleave fights there are
sullen dove
salhadaar closest thing to st we have so far and u might still get some cleave on balls
hasty grail
I'm primarily playing thane over slayer, is that a good read for the raid? I really haven't switched off it, only thing I haven't done is crown on hc
coarse nest
i think its time for a new profile pic for u
What’d you have in mind
sullen dove
I'm primarily playing thane over slayer, is that a good read for the raid? I rea...
thane is way better on the bosses its better for than vice versa
if u only want to play one thats prolly the best bet
but like about half of the bosses are pretty slayerable still
vivid pollen
lethal quiver
are u guys playign rampaging ruin in m+?
sullen dove
hell naw
hallow sphinx
powerful kinda sucks now
sullen dove
did they change
hallow sphinx
enrage duration nerf
umbral gull
rn i'm pumping m0 like hell like i'm at 115K overall but idk in mono i struggle to be 60k fuck that shit
shut bone
This is gonna keep bothering me if I don't ask.. I read the wowhead rotation prio multiple times (I play mountain thane) and still can't understand why thunder clap (not blast) isn't higher prio than raging blow during avatar? If it gets 50% damage increase wouldn't it hit harder than RB?
dense zealot
How important is it to rend for slayer?
sullen dove
bout 0.6% st but more worth it on aoe
dense zealot
Thank you
echo rapids
This is gonna keep bothering me if I don't ask.. I read the wowhead rotation pri...
Where are you seeing 50% increased damage for thunderclap during avatar?
undone flower
Storm surge
echo rapids
oh right rihgt
undone flower
echo rapids
yeah i couldnt find it in the tree
I assume its because RB also does more damage during Avatar? It must keep up enough to stay ahead in ST
Or rather during reck which is paried with avatar
shut bone
yeah i couldnt find it in the tree
It's in the hero tree
sullen dove
think it may be a strange discrepancy with the in cooldown and out of cooldown portion cuz in cooldown assumes reck and you have crushing blow which is definitely better, but then out of cooldown says reck is def off but avatar might still be up idk if it assumes thats up or not
shut bone
Yeah that's what I thought but I guess avatar lasts a bit longer than reck
sullen dove
yea it does
echo rapids
Might be one of those tiny optimizations that just isn't high enough value to try to work around
olive wraith
Ye, probably a small st increase
sullen dove
i would say ifu wanna find out do a st sim and just try to reason out priority of buttons after reck drops but u still have avatar
im sure its also in apl specifically but tahts more a @winter shoal thing
echo rapids
Yeah if you got a lot of TB's during your window the extention difference could be substantial
deft palm
MT for chimaerus or Slayer?
brittle crow
MT for chimaerus or Slayer?
u can safely play MT for all fights rn tbh tbh
slayer is only a bit ahead on some fights
i think slayer is technically recommended for chimaerus tho
summer quail
i think slayer is technically recommended for chimaerus tho
only xan recommends it. and he is big noober
brittle crow
only xan recommends it. and he is big noober
he pinged me once so naturally id give my life for him
sullen dove
slayer chimerus is goat
deft palm
ty
wintry wharf
Just send cd’s on crown or is there bait with the dmg increase windows p1?
sullen dove
eh probably will be later on but if you send on cds on pull usually youll have a decent lineup of big dmg amp on the next two adds
oak raven
What is our haste % cap at the moment?
sullen dove
not an official cap just go with whatever sim tells you but around 20%ish is a decent ballpark to aim for if you can
regardless sim knows all
wintry wharf
Copy thanks
sullen dove
can just be mcfucked by bad arrow timing tho or something but eh
i usually get 3 sets of cds off i think before we phase
the third bladestorm on last add have to be a bit lucky for
median umbra
I enjoy farming clap dps on thane for crown
the worse ur group is at mechs the better it does
median umbra
are you trying to WF or what
brittle crow
we didn't prog dragons either !
vivid pollen
rofl
sullen dove
pugs make me want to blow it off smoove
vivid pollen
were you slayer chad there?
sullen dove
yea
vivid pollen
lovely
median umbra
waow
sullen dove
i just want my crests brah ill kill this thing dead on the floor if i must
covert blaze
i just want my crests brah ill kill this thing dead on the floor if i must
swordish yellow holy
kill the boss bud
sullen dove
yes sir
dapper goblet
voodoo
smoky vale
i saw you losing to vil on red
sudden tusk
if you pick tank in pvp you should get the ice pick
brittle crow
sounds good
dapper goblet
i saw you losing to vil on red
you know vil has suckled at the teat
4 penis alnseer 10 ilvls
dapper goblet
not my fault
sullen dove
lets kill boss thoughts
rare garnet
nerf warrior buff unholy
frosty ibex
Anyone is using the puzzle trinket ? feel so boring to useeeee
potent thicket
No thinking, just zug zug
random shadow
Anyone is using the puzzle trinket ? feel so boring to useeeee
Just pre pull cast it ez pz
In keys ofc. I ain't using that shit in raid
sullen dove
end it
random shadow
You won't catch me lacking
summer quail
end it
you need to do really bad on a pull. like die in cds or something then you can kill it
random shadow
Bros playing with 3 hunters
rare garnet
Anyone is using the puzzle trinket ? feel so boring to useeeee
personally just can't justify
sullen dove
Bros playing with 3 hunters
5
random shadow
That's even worse. Why 5
sullen dove
hunter op
rare garnet
hunter OP
random shadow
You know what you're right. Fair and I refuse
summer quail
personally just can't justify
wonder how much puzzle is undersimming for coz it has been confirmed it's undersimming
random shadow
Even tho ik its true
random shadow
wonder how much puzzle is undersimming for coz it has been confirmed it's unders...
I mean everyone knows. Its like dam near 800 mastery
I wish we could move with it man
It would be vastly better
summer quail
it's alot of mastery yee. you also have avatar for its entire duration
rare garnet
it would have to be under simming so much it swings from -1.3 to +4 for me to want to use that dogshit trinket when i can just slam on another passive and zug
rare garnet
but why would you want to
random shadow
Ifs bene known st is garbo
sullen dove
truuue
rare garnet
we're a target capped cleave focused zdps, warrior thriving
random shadow
Plus besides slike 2nd boss. You have to talent into some AOe talent which makes arms ST even worse
New dh spec do be interesting in these raids
Maybe in the end its a fereal move
deft palm
is there a place i can put my logs so someone can look over them
unreal onyx
frosty ibex
In keys ofc. I ain't using that shit in raid
needed to add a new bind of course its not a bg deal but the precast feel really long, more than the older we have in tww
frosty ibex
personally just can't justify
yeah its really huge ngl
cerulean junco
fury st ass?
what boss is this for
cerulean junco
end it
damn u did pretty well to top dps on that fight given melee cant hit during transitions
sullen dove
that was only p1 and no one can hit during transitions she takes no dmg
radiant plank
that was only p1 and no one can hit during transitions she takes no dmg
its only 99% reduced dmg
radiant plank
wrecking throw
and then that one other throw ability wtih a 9s cd
I critted her for 709 with that one in intermission
vivid pollen
@sullen dove are you running rend as slayer? If so, when are you pressing it?
radiant plank
I can bet that he is and hes pressing it when the wowhead guide tells him to
vivid pollen
It's not even in the guide I think
radiant plank
cerulean junco
u rend with slayer prioritised before raging blow
vivid pollen
Oh so it is
radiant plank
Outside cooldowns step 8
vivid pollen
But not in cds
radiant plank
In cds its never worth it
vivid pollen
And that is worth in pure ST as well?
radiant plank
is 0.6% damage worth for you?
vivid pollen
Yes
scarlet yacht
Yo guys
vivid pollen
Yo guy
scarlet yacht
Atlast found discord for warriors dunno where have i been
Who is ready to zugzug next week in m+
If they take us
potent thicket
Welcome zug zug brother
vivid pollen
Oh we zuggin
deft palm
During cds, its BT, execute, crushing blow and thats it right?
potent thicket
Gonna zug the zugging out of m+
scarlet yacht
Oh we zuggin
We zugging 258.5 ready to hit the sheets
scarlet yacht
During cds, its BT, execute, crushing blow and thats it right?
Yes
vivid pollen
During cds, its BT, execute, crushing blow and thats it right?
I think you are forgetting rampage
And odyns
scarlet yacht
Thats top prio
Ans thunderblast ofc
Those are above
I think he meant
After those
vivid pollen
I assumed slayer
scarlet yacht
Hmm then a tip
Dont play slayer in m+
🤣
I was a slayer player but honestly thane is more fun
vivid pollen
I don't think he was referring to m+ haha
scarlet yacht
And more dmg
scarlet yacht
I don't think he was referring to m+ haha
Oh i joined mid convo
Ye raid diff story it depends
scarlet yacht
During cds, its BT, execute, crushing blow and thats it right?
BT is very important esp in slayer for the thingy that spins
Also have rend applied if not
vivid pollen
During cds, its BT, execute, crushing blow and thats it right?
Look at the Wowhead prio for fury warrior
scarlet yacht
Over crushing blow
cerulean junco
I can bet that he is and hes pressing it when the wowhead guide tells him to
u prefer the wowhead, method or maxroll rotations? all a little different
scarlet yacht
Most imp fury tip is high APM
radiant plank
u prefer the wowhead, method or maxroll rotations? all a little different
wowhead>maxroll>method
scarlet yacht
I go wowhead usually for initiually for tips then from gameplay alone u understand
deft palm
it was for slayert
vivid pollen
Most imp fury tip is high APM
You mean I shouldn't be using SBR???
scarlet yacht
it was for slayert
Ye then as above
scarlet yacht
You mean I shouldn't be using SBR???
Whats sbr??
vivid pollen
Single button rotation haha
scarlet yacht
Btw guys any1 has proper UI for warriorr
scarlet yacht
Single button rotation haha
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
U can use it
If ur
In rhe bathroom
On ur phone
Linking ur phone to ur pc
That would work
scarlet yacht
Btw guys any1 has proper UI for warriorr
Diss
sullen dove
p1 alleria is pretty cringe tho
sullen dove
just the sheer reliance on bs rng to sometimes just do double the damage
vivid pollen
Btw guys any1 has proper UI for warriorr
I made my own that is pretty simple, but if you like the luxthos WA packs from last season I think he has equivalents made in CDM
scarlet yacht
I made my own that is pretty simple, but if you like the luxthos WA packs from l...
Thing is i am an idiot noob with UI and elvui
Or technology ngl
I sont even know how to import and use it
WA was soo much easier
vivid pollen
Just look up luxthos warrior UI I guess
scarlet yacht
just the sheer reliance on bs rng to sometimes just do double the damage
Why not mountain thane on that fight?
scarlet yacht
Just look up luxthos warrior UI I guess
I tried downloading elvui from curseforge couldnt find iy
sullen dove
cuza boss damage is hard
smoky vale
bc its not curseforge
sullen dove
and need to kill the boss
scarlet yacht
bc its not curseforge
Ohh
smoky vale
how long you been in that raid bud
scarlet yacht
and need to kill the boss
Hmm well true but how much is different in boss dmg
smoky vale
i think you been in there for like 4 hours
scarlet yacht
Also i leave main boss dmg to my zugzug st
radiant plank
p1 alleria is pretty cringe tho
Completely ass
scarlet yacht
Like SP or idk who else
radiant plank
my favourite is when we aim one extra silver arrow at the mobs
and its GG we wipe to enrage
scarlet yacht
Honestly i did 4/7 then stopped raiding
vivid pollen
and its GG we wipe to enrage
Just enrage harder than she does bro
scarlet yacht
Waiting for m+ more fun
radiant plank
scarlet yacht
No more time for raiding :/ to old now
Last boss as warrior u only need neck i guess
So eh
young swan
yeah slayer giga fuck cringe
radiant plank
Crazy
only if we had given more feedback on that
since the launch of hero talents
median umbra
Warrior hero talent design my nemesis
young swan
crazy how it couldve been prevented by just adding the 2pc from s3 tww
if only we had thought of this 6 months ago
radiant plank
if only we had thought of this 6 months ago
only if
sullen dove
get me out of here
cerulean junco
wtf, u pugging heroics?
sullen dove
powerful
smoky vale
gg
young swan
grey parsed
poggers
get fucked in p1 on BS cdr = do no damage for the rest of the fight
poggers
random shadow
this what we really needed
Wheres you get 65 from? I get 30 from ?? And 10 from this
sullen dove
i sorta found the alternative
it is cringe but if you miss it on 2nd add you just hard hold that bs for 3rd reck on 3rd add
ended p1 with like 210k or something still
now i need to do it on my lock
cluegi
dense jewel
should I use two Arcane Mastery on weapons or one mastery and one haste?
sullen dove
(2 acuity)
ocean ore
Gg dish boy
ocean ore
That was a sweaty pull
sullen dove
yerp
ocean ore
Would have been epic to do it no comms tho 🤣 🤣
sullen dove
yea
think they prolly helped a bunch tho, that and swappin strat
starting outside way better
sullen dove
o7
young swan
o7
sullen dove
Wheres you get 65 from? I get 30 from ?? And 10 from this
?? gave 35 myth for me, 20 more from t11 delves at delve track 4
then 10 from her
unreal onyx
Myth from T11 delves?
sullen dove
yea
have to be track 4 in delve tho
which is a pretty good amount of bountifuls to do
i cleared 6 keys on 4 alts + prolly 5-10 more
sullen dove
now that my alleria is leveled and seemingly not bugged
unreal onyx
Im only on T3
ember falcon
on slayer raid build if bladestorm comes up before recklessness should I hold it or send it
sullen dove
otherwise does like 70% of my dps and just eats all the aggro
you hold bs if reck is within 30 seconds of cd left
for st purposes
radiant plank
for st purposes
What to do if i wanna pad
sullen dove
but if theres like adds up right now that you know wont be up by the time reck comes off cd then you just kinda slam it
radiant plank
on arms
ember falcon
alright thanks
radiant plank
Already doing that
radiant plank
its not padding enough
my brewmaster oneshots the p1 blobs
do I tell them to fuck off?
radiant plank
Should also tell my rogues to stop pressing BP in p1
spare helm
Dump question buuuuuut does the ADD dmg during bosses count to the parses?
Bc Raid lead says for certain bosses to NOT jump after adds >_< and just hit bosses so parses look ass sometimes 🥺
radiant plank
and my pala to do this
sullen dove
Dump question buuuuuut does the ADD dmg during bosses count to the parses?
Bc R...
all adds in all raids count for parses rn
radiant plank
Dump question buuuuuut does the ADD dmg during bosses count to the parses?
Bc R...
Unless stated otherwise, all add dmg counts
spare helm
all adds in all raids count for parses rn
Welp guess i know why parses look ass ok
radiant plank
tbh could see them removing dragon adds sometime soon
:)
they wont
since fury is not the one padding them
for now
spare helm
Eh im new to warri anyway
But
Zug zug is fun
Zug zug is gud
Zug zug is the way!!!
sullen dove
but i buxt on those things
especially 4set get to rip an odyns on all 4 p2 sets
will be very fat
cant wait for next week
if i dont walk into raid at like 265 ilvl minimum im a chopped chud
spare helm
Im 257 currently got the vorasius trinket on hero yesterday ^-^
sullen dove
epic
spare helm
Ao once M+ hits time to go ballistic
spare helm
I cant fking wait to grind M+ everyday
sullen dove
so ill be like... maybe 260 just from that
spare helm
Ok gud
Was wondering
sullen dove
276 maybe
spare helm
Ok thats free real estate right there
sullen dove
theres a couple like either trinket from windrunners is good and prolly worth running that dungeon for
those r prolly the main 2 alternatives
spare helm
I have puzzle
sullen dove
first boss raid trink i think good too
spare helm
But only viable for pull
spare helm
Ok so either ge tlucky on vault with gaze
Or get 1st raid boss tri ket
Otherwise get lucky in windrunner
Xopy
sullen dove
yea i mean windrunner prolly p easy to maybe get one of those 2
scarlet yacht
Rn im using the voidstorm rep trinket and the claw trinket with haste and proc str i think
sullen dove
o yea if u have the rep trinket that ones not bad either
scarlet yacht
Is void bad?
sullen dove
the claw i think is kinda eh
sullen dove
but if it sims better than what u have then sure its fine
sullen dove
yea i mean the renown trink is outclasses by vorasius one like instantly but if u dont have that its respectable alternative
scarlet yacht
Btw why is box even bis
sullen dove
assuming max buffs
scarlet yacht
Its 2min cd
sullen dove
if its bis for anything then it'd be m+
but definitely not for raid
maybe just not many other good dmg on uses in m+
scarlet yacht
Every other cds u can use box?
scarlet yacht
maybe just not many other good dmg on uses in m+
I guess
sullen dove
and 2min cd isnt the worst since you usually have downtime between pulls
scarlet yacht
I’m m mainly looking at m+
scarlet yacht
and 2min cd isnt the worst since you usually have downtime between pulls
Which is worse
sullen dove
if you hold box a little
scarlet yacht
Downtime means less
scarlet yacht
Anger mgamangmeny
Management to reduce cd
I guess holding
But war all abt zugzug
sullen dove
yea i mean having some downtime walking from pack to pack kinda inevitable
its just on use trinks usually make more use out of that
spare helm
Stat prio for us is Mastery > Haste or Haste > Mastert?
Im at 1154 mastery and 780ish haste
scarlet yacht
Mastery haste
sullen dove
like you fight a pack of mobs with trink + cd for 45 seconds, walk 15 seconds to next pack, use cds on that pack for another 45 sec, another 15 walking and then on third pack u have cds and trinket again
scarlet yacht
But u need also the haste cap
spare helm
Buffed with potion at 1300+ mastery
sullen dove
mast should be higher than haste but it doesnt have to be that much higher
spare helm
Ok so try get as much Haste an dmaster as possible
sullen dove
would just sim pieces in your inventory if you have a lot of options
scarlet yacht
Stat prio for us is Mastery > Haste or Haste > Mastert?
Im at 1154 mastery and 7...
Urs is too big
sullen dove
yea there isnt really any like "cap following" or anything ppl usually worry about
scarlet yacht
Cap for master is at 1320
But anyways rn all with be changed with higher ilvl
Since strength above all
sullen dove
raidbot sim just tells you the best item to equip
spare helm
But anyways rn all with be changed with higher ilvl
Agreed
sullen dove
and typically best practice to follow it
scarlet yacht
U start minmaxing the stats
spare helm
10+ day 1 incoming
scarlet yacht
When u farm n get the bis gear
sullen dove
yea the only semi relevant reason to minmax stats as of right now is to not get fricked over by potion of recklessness
but if you just use lights potential that doesnt really matter
scarlet yacht
Have u guys crafted ur 272 weapon or waiting for 285 btw?
scarlet yacht
yea the only semi relevant reason to minmax stats as of right now is to not get ...
Well true tbh i have them both haste and mastey same so idm
sullen dove
i mean yea you know you will make the myth right away
scarlet yacht
So i made that to 276
sullen dove
ya i mean not ideal though not the end of the world
spare helm
Have u guys crafted ur 272 weapon or waiting for 285 btw?
Such a waste of heroics i crafted a ring and Cloak on my dH Tank on 272 just to not bother with those slots but weap be a waste
sullen dove
just like 60-80 wasted crests maybe
cuz once u make the mythic weapon heroic weapons cost 0 crests to upgrade
storm lantern
I'm pretty confident on getting enough myth crests next reset so i pass on Hero crafting
And go base => myth directly
scarlet yacht
cuz once u make the mythic weapon heroic weapons cost 0 crests to upgrade
Hmm ye but sntering m+ with
Full weapon
Is good as well
smoky vale
but wasting heroic crests is not good
scarlet yacht
Hmmm eh
unreal onyx
Only heroic crests I used so far are to max my weap
storm lantern
You should have 30 myth crests already with naeluus, + Heroic paladins and alleria if you've done it
That makes it to 60?
I think i have 60
unreal onyx
Dont think so
sullen dove
idk why specifically
unreal onyx
I did paladins and I only have 35 iirc
sullen dove
but 35 from that or 30 ig if game decides to be weird + 10 heroic alleria + 20 4 t11 delves if u maxed your delve questlog
storm lantern
Right, paladin don't gave any. i have 45 myth crests
tiny seal
vanguard dont give any
alleria 2nd last boss and midnight falls as last boss will give
storm lantern
Just short of delve journey rank 4, will have it for next reset however
unreal onyx
Which delve is the fastest to do anyway?
sullen dove
depends on story but gulf of memory extremely easy rn
1shot the dinosaurs with their own spores
sullen dove
Just short of delve journey rank 4, will have it for next reset however
You get more journey for just completing bountifuls when without keys
if u have any up on main or possible alts its not out of the question to get it done
unreal onyx
You only get 1 map per week, right?
sullen dove
Yea
storm lantern
Affirm
storm lantern
You get more journey for just completing bountifuls when without keys
yeah, i'm doing 4 bountiful a day, i'm not burning myself too soon on delves
sullen dove
baseg
storm lantern
I know people farming the nemesis chest and banner chest for delver journey like madlads 
sullen dove
O yea that also gives some
That sounds way worse
multi alt bountiful prolly faster
unreal onyx
Nemesis chest free loot
sullen dove
but yea just depends how many 90s u have
wild plank
125 xp nemesis chest zzzz
wild plank
based
sullen dove
First time I’ve ever leveled and like geared more than 2 characters at start of xpac
But making some nice gold on 3rd and 4th alts already…
hidden moon
Hello guys, Fury feels a little bit squishy with absolutely no def CD, am I missing something ?
The MT tree for M+ has no Enraged Regen
bleak saffron
You still have spell reflect and dstance
teal hawk
happens when blizzard gives you the option to drop your main defensive for damage 🤷♂️
and they know it for the past like 3 months now
bleak saffron
While other classes have 3 defs
i mean dh's dont have 3, neither does shaman
and u can just talent enraged regen
bleak saffron
oh okay, sorry i didnt realise it grayed out cause u want that 1% dmg option
native wadi
To raid normal yes you can
bleak saffron
that is my bad, blizz must have updated after i logged out
native wadi
You are balanced with that 1%
And its does not matter is a design problem not a numbers problem
granite crown
Is BT always a gap of 2 globals? Feels like it gets fucky for me during BL
bitter palm
And reflect doesnt do nothing vs phis
hover over stance mastery
fury doesnt need er in most content
native wadi
What
bleak saffron
And its does not matter is a design problem not a numbers problem
i mean fury is around middle of the pack in terms of deaths for top 10/25% on hc. Doing better than ret paladins
bitter palm
maybe in very high keys u will need it
bleak saffron
we are doing just fine defensively
bitter palm
i mean fury is around middle of the pack in terms of deaths for top 10/25% on hc...
irrelevant metric
bitter palm
doesnt determine how strong a class is defensively
bleak saffron
we dont have mythic data yet
native wadi
Is skill issue 90% of the time
bitter palm
warriors are always way tol high
fervent turtle
Who cares about dying in hc
i mean if you die in hc you die forever though, so its kinda important
bleak saffron
Have you ever raided mythic?
HoF but u keep posting about ur 1% dmg problem
native wadi
You need defensives in mythic content
bitter palm
Have you ever raided mythic?
for the past idk how many tiers at this point
native wadi
Again is not a dmg problem its a design problem
native wadi
Really I can only explain it to you i cant understand it for
You
You are balanced with full dmg talents if you are the only class that has to sacrifice dmg for defs
You are losing and design should be looked at
native wadi
for the past idk how many tiers at this point
Was asking andy
bitter palm
fury has dstance iv warpaint thane has keep ur feet on the ground sr is plate has infinite hp bt spam healing urself
if fury dies through dstance every class dies
most of ur group will die
not every class but most
bleak saffron
You are losing and design should be looked at
not that i love the current design choice with ER, but we have defensives and we are competitive on surviveability
native wadi
How are we competitive if we have no defs
bleak saffron
but also even for HoF raiding losing 1% dps to gain a defensive is a worth choice
native wadi
When there is a dmg taken check in mythic
bitter palm
how do we have no defs
native wadi
You are always behind
bleak saffron
How are we competitive if we have no defs
we have spell reflect?
like how can u call that not a defensive
native wadi
Its MAGICAL SMG REDUCTION
bleak saffron
and we can simply go dstance
native wadi
god lord help me
bleak saffron
we also have high armor and higher base health and passive 10% dr
bitter palm
thane has 2% phys + 8% on good uptime as well
bitter palm
not in m+ unless u need oneshot survivability
which u already have
with stance mastery
so u play keep your feet on the ground
native wadi
You dont talent stance mastery either
bitter palm
yes cause thats max damage u can sim neutral and take it
drop javelineer and crushing force take resonating and stance mastery
also u can just drop massacre and take er as fury
native wadi
U re not serious
bitter palm
its really not a high cost point
sullen dove
r we makin up stuff about fury's no defensives again
bitter palm
yes
sullen dove
poggers
bitter palm
somehow a class with infinite defensives has no defensives if u dont take er
sullen dove
i miss having er but no where in heroic do i ever felt like i even came close to needing it other than alleria
native wadi
In hc
sullen dove
and like 10 more ilvl will make that go away instantly
native wadi
Alleria is a struggle
sullen dove
yea and then when u do mythic at 280 ilvl you wont feel like youll need it then
native wadi
But its still hc
sullen dove
which is what most ppl will be at when they get to her
bleak saffron
r we makin up stuff about fury's no defensives again
we actually get one shot from a boss sneezing unless we half our dmg to take a defensive i have heard
sullen dove
obv its cringe they make a defensive compete with some small damage upgrades and obv itd be cooler if they just kept enrage regen passive but lets not pretend fury doesnt have some giga op defensives for all content already
analog matrix
we actually get one shot from a boss sneezing unless we half our dmg to take a d...
Yes in m+ keylevel 25
sullen dove
we actually get one shot from a boss sneezing unless we half our dmg to take a d...
true
native wadi
Ppl dont understand that there is people who actually want to be competitive and that having 0 defs is worse than having defs
Its crazy
bleak saffron
we are competitive
native wadi
Make defensive stance a talent so we can lose more dmg
bleak saffron
i gotta tell my guild to gear that prot warr, i wont be competitive if i ever have to take ER
native wadi
Bcs its okay we still have victory rush
sullen dove
doubt youd lose dmg to take dstance
theres a lot of useless shitty talents in class tree
sullen dove
yea
native wadi
And while balancing it
sullen dove
utility loss first
native wadi
Nerf arms too
bitter palm
true
radiant plank
fuark
analog matrix
Bcs its okay we still have victory rush
Don’t forget spell reflect ❤️
native wadi
I love how we are aaying warr its okay in defs
I open the logs
And we are topping deaths
native wadi
Shows how based this discord is
analog matrix
And we are topping deaths
Skill issue
bitter palm
fury warrior had a high amount of deaths in s3 of df
native wadi
Hahahahahaahaha
radiant plank
Active defensives vs players
Impossible
Mage had most defensives in the game but were still topping death logs
sullen dove
yea unlike cheat deaths that hand hold you when you make a mistake
radiant plank
since their requires to press buttons
sullen dove
you have to know when stuffs gonna happen