#fury

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runic violet
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is rampage supposed to be the highest damage?

smoky vale
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yes before as to not lose a gcd in reck

full topaz
raw canyon
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Got a Heroic BIS Helm are we upgrading with hero crests? I see some people Craft 272 2H wep. What yall thinking

full topaz
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if ur a mythic + player

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dont use ur hero crest on weapon

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just wait until myth

raw canyon
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Planning on doing both okay

past pivot
raw canyon
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Than just upgrade it to 6/6 272

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Where can i find taht Axe

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that*

full topaz
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hero helmet might aswell

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cause on tuesday

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m+ comes out

untold heart
raw canyon
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Heard thanks guys appreciate it

raw canyon
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Thanks if you can @past pivot

chilly nebula
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how far behind is thane in ST to slayer?

runic violet
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what's wrong with this ST

south chasm
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is slayer better than thane in M0?

echo rapids
runic violet
median marsh
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i should cast rempage right asap?(80 rage) or around 110?

south chasm
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sseems like slayer is better than thane in M0 for the aoe burst

sullen dove
smoky vale
delicate rock
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@runic violet Rampage should be your number 1 spell in ST on thane

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But thats on logs, Not details

undone flower
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and you have rampaging ruin

delicate rock
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Ruin is weird

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Ye

median marsh
runic violet
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I spam Rampage whenever possible... still low

undone flower
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you have rampaging ruin talented

delicate rock
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@runic violet You are playing a wrong Talent, your using rampaging ruin

sullen dove
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ruin specifically makes rampage dogshit

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for almost no gain

delicate rock
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^

sullen dove
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especially thane shouldnt need the aoe help

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tclap/blast more than enough

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maybe do it for slayer

undone flower
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the cancel aura thing still works ?

sullen dove
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whose aoe is worse

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probably

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but cringe to even have to do it

smoky vale
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man uou're not fun

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give me a reaction

sullen dove
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stop typin weird ahh shit

sullen dove
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gala

undone flower
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tsundere soredish

median marsh
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is there any addon that can make rage coloer change on a specific thrashould?

atomic sapphire
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if i already have twp champion weapons, should i still craft a weapon or do like bracers and cloak?

compact apex
sullen dove
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if you plan to farm m+ next week to a decently high level (9+) weapon still good cuz you make guaranteed mythic ilvl weapon

echo rapids
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I have mine set to turn green at 100

delicate rock
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@median marsh @compact apex Ellesmere UI can do that, the beta just ended today

median marsh
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tyvm guys!!

delicate rock
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Basically elvui without the fps loss

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Big cook for real

compact apex
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bout to try it

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do you have like a already set up import for it?

delicate rock
smoky vale
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which would only be replaced by a myth 2h

atomic sapphire
smoky vale
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which is gonna take a while before you get 2

coarse nest
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Not for me I’m looting a myth 2hand from the vault in about 10 days

atomic sapphire
lusty jungle
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do you get 65 or 35 for ?? boss says i got 30 + 35 in chat but only 35 in currency tab (myth crest)

rotund ginkgo
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3 tries

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he really isnt a pushover

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i kept dying to white hits though damn

echo rapids
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If there was a str 2 hander from an earlier boss I might risk it but na, crafting is the move

iron portal
rotund ginkgo
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wym tww bosses

undone flower
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If you did the tww delve bosses I guess

rotund ginkgo
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yeah

iron portal
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^

rotund ginkgo
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i think i did all 3?

iron portal
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Good

rotund ginkgo
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ye i did

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i think zekvir and the undermine one i didnt do wek 1

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week 1*

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undermine boss was a load of bugged hell

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so i was cba

echo rapids
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This one feels odd, in that gear will trivialize it

rotund ginkgo
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gear trivializes most of them

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or at least, it did

fast mural
rotund ginkgo
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undermine one was PURE chaos and aboslutely disgusting, half of the time it bugged out

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im 250 with some 237 gears

undone flower
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Yeah every one except kyvesa was just gear checks

echo rapids
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You still had to do the mechanics for underpin

rotund ginkgo
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@echo rapids yes and no

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certain classes (arcane mage) didnt have to

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underpin was giga wonky so i dont rly even count it tbf

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it was just straight up unenjoyable

iron portal
sullen dove
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this like one of the easiest feel like

undone flower
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I put him between zekvir and underpin

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It is basically zekvir II

blissful hound
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Zekvir 2.0 agree

feral ivy
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Why do ppl care about parses this early?

sullen dove
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cuz they make you feel good

undone flower
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And bc it’s the only parses

night obsidian
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we wanna run this one over the 32 primary stat? I guess once we get enough gems maybe?

chilly sapphire
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Man my st isn't there at all in p3 alleria.

nocturne bluff
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.45* crit strike effectiveness is like .225%(your crit chance) damage. Cant imagine even caring about the distinction between mainstay and crit effectiveness gems

winter axle
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I'm not 100% on this but I'm calling this world first, idgaf

untold heart
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Is it this channel or a different one for log reviews?

winter axle
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If you ask people to take a look at your logs, there is usually someone that will accomodate

untold heart
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Ok, when I’m done playing ball with my dog I’ll see if someone can look over a couple fights.

median marsh
echo rapids
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Not ideal but it works

median marsh
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arcui is the only addon that give the option to swap rage color in threshold??

echo rapids
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I think others do

median marsh
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sensi does that?

echo rapids
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It’s the only one that lets me set different glow colors for different spells ready state which I love

sturdy wasp
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Did blizzard fix the recrafting bug with weapons?

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did you guys recraft ur 259 wep to get both slots?

flint zealot
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I guess this should mean "Mastery and Haste", right?

slim coral
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Mickey Mouse heroic parses

sturdy wasp
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that care

fast mural
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not on week 1

untold heart
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If anyone can review these logs, and provide feedback would be great;
THis first log our AMZ where outside of melee and the adds spent a lot of time out of range in the poop, idk if that is the only issues I had. Also, wondering if cd timing was ok
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MNxJw93KnzdaX8Bf?fight=29&type=damage-done&source=8

got bad SD procs slowing BS timing
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MNxJw93KnzdaX8Bf?fight=21&type=damage-done&source=8

sturdy wasp
fast mural
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i would have guessed only arms warriors and arcane mages so they get easy ranks

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cause no one is playing those specs

olive wraith
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Bonk

summer quail
winter shoal
umbral gull
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U guys play with others talents than wowhead like all casuals people ? Can u share it pls ? I got 80K on thane and 72K slayer in m0 but idk for next week

radiant plank
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i copypaste wowhead talents and do 90k on thane and 85k on slayer

drowsy heron
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Fury got Dark Horse Tier lets go

umbral gull
hybrid yew
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is puzzlebox bait

drowsy heron
hybrid yew
umbral gull
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No in mythic

hybrid yew
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ah

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i've noticed our AoE is much better than our single target, it's kind of doodoo

umbral gull
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I still play slayer and touch the 75-80k in m0 but im still waiting a buff on reap of the storm

radiant plank
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sorry to hear that

drowsy heron
umbral gull
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I miss TWW last season

hybrid yew
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same

boreal sluice
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next patch will be "you can only use reap outside of combat"

umbral gull
drowsy heron
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Slayer is on the back foot this season. I think its cause of how good it was at the end of TWW so blizz hard gutted it

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its not bad but Thane is just kinda better right now in most content

hybrid yew
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thane feels bad singlet arget

drowsy heron
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its not that bad imo, slightly worse than Slayer but only by like 5% i think

sullen dove
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and yet.. slayer is also pretty bad single target

blissful hound
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Not even 5% I think

drowsy heron
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yea our ST isnt amazing atm

umbral gull
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Yes, it’s because they changed the talents of our class, especially with having to choose between Avatar and Storm . So people prefer to play with the Mountain aspect and use the Bloodthirsty build. As a result, without a patch from Blizzard, there won’t be any more Slayers.

drowsy heron
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mainly cause they gutted RB

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shit hits like a wet noodle now

hybrid yew
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yeah RB feels superior to BT

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with how the talents work

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but numbers arent there

umbral gull
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Well BT can do 100k x3 when RB doing like 20K

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And BT enrage so idk

hybrid yew
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i mean by "feel", feels better to spam RB

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than using BT as the main ability

drowsy heron
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a lot of people would disagree with RB spam being fun

hybrid yew
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like back in TWW

drowsy heron
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but i like it too

umbral gull
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Even as slayer Idk when use RB when BT every Time up

drowsy heron
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i just think the option should be there, blizz is really bad at making different builds all viable

boreal sluice
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what do you do when burst of power procs during our cd's and we have like 100 rage

hybrid yew
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next set of patch updates have 0 warrior changes

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for additional tuning

umbral gull
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They not gonna change war for people stay on thane but how we high perform in single target then ? I struggle in single raid while others people stay at 80K mono with others class

random shadow
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0 changes better then nerfs

umbral gull
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I made a dungeon with DH bro was at 140K overall while i was sweating for touch 80

burnt stag
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I was expecting it

random shadow
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thane feels good rn, sure damage increases would be sick, but id rather get no changes then nerfs

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look at arms

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it did good then nerfed 4 times in a row

umbral gull
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I dont speak about up, we need to wait 4p for really think about up or nerf, just blizzard should make thane and slayer both viable

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U play slayer but still spam BT

random shadow
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our 4p from 0p is only like 4.5% increase lol

fading sky
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yeah i dno man

random shadow
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meanwhile arms is like 11.5

fading sky
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well doesnt matter

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when arms does that much less dmg

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like

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😄

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also keep in mind the 4p adds a lot of AOE

random shadow
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its relative, i mean other tier set pieces its higher % increase

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boomie is about 9 or 11% i dont remember

fading sky
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doesnt matter

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what 4p adds

random shadow
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fereals like near 11 i think

fading sky
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the end result matters more

random shadow
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well 4p affects tuning tho

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espically once more data comes out for blizzard to debate tuning

hybrid yew
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i feel like our apex is underwhelming

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and not that good

fading sky
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m8

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tuning has been tested a lot in beta id say

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butyes

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fury wont get another buff

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its pretty mid

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arms might get a slight ST buff IF they also nerf cleave

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if not no chance

umbral gull
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Think is u cant’ put war in mid tier list. We dont have cd def, no BL, Bad single target, now we can hit all target when our role was to delete 2-3 big one

mossy pelican
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Warriors should have a summoning helicopter

random shadow
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was fury ever 2-3 target cleave tho? thought that was arms bread and butter

fading sky
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no

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2-3 arms

umbral gull
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It’s early season so its ok but in 14+ u not invite a war rn

fading sky
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fury was +4

random shadow
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AOE target is fine considering thats what majority of keys is

fading sky
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i mean thane claps pretty well

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in a 14

random shadow
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raid ST sure isnt the greatest but its whatever

fading sky
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and M+ ST is great

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on thane

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so id say we will get inv easily

fading sky
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ofc we arent meta but prob upper tier m+ deffo

random shadow
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warrior fits physical comps well

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like last season

fading sky
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yeah

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like

random shadow
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i dont see the issue here

fading sky
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fury is better in M+ than in raid

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by a mile

random shadow
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its like last season

fading sky
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Brew is TANK choice

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most likely

random shadow
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brew, whatever healer prob a shaman

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warrior

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2 physical class as usal

fading sky
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sub rogue id venture

random shadow
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fereal or rouge

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legit same shit as last season lmao

fading sky
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Mby actually havoc // dh

random shadow
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idk about havoc

fading sky
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  • another caster is also possible
random shadow
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theyre a magic buff no

fading sky
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man it scales of AP

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and they bring own magic buff but has value from AP

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so if they good compliments a grp fine

random shadow
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is fereal aoe good still

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i stopped caring after they removed bloodtalons

fading sky
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u can take war - havoc-bm-BM // MM if good

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or tbh a caster as well

random shadow
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oh ye always a huinter

fading sky
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depends on how good they are

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im not certain atm tbh

umbral gull
random shadow
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i have a cracked MM hunter so i'll almost always run it

fading sky
random shadow
fading sky
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Battleshout

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brother

random shadow
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are you forgetting our aura buff

fading sky
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like DK - HAVOC - warrior

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not a bad choice

random shadow
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brew, resto, war, dk, filler

fading sky
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like warrior is pretty strong

random shadow
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same as last season..

fading sky
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coz we bring 5% ap

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and thane slaps in ST

random shadow
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thane also hits hard in big packs

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@umbral gull what makes you think warrior is this bad that its not a top if not lock pick in a physical comp, did you not play last season? even i did as an alt

umbral gull
random shadow
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ig its all relative, ive fucked DK's overall every m0 ive done, ive beaten Pallies as ARMS lmao

umbral gull
lean haven
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Ok, so ive readed 2 guides, one on wowhead, other on method gg about fury war MT build rotation. Wowhead says that the BLAST is higher that bloodbath burring burs cd active, methos says that the bloodbath is first prio. Whos the winner? Could it be, that the bloodbath is prio durring bossfights and blast on adds? (ofc, we are talking about m+ build). Also execute, if proced have more prio than bloodbath?

runic violet
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what's a good example of fury warrior

spring lantern
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at least wait for some real content before claiming the sky is falling down xD

runic violet
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my dps sucks ass... i need to retune

random shadow
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i mean if we're blowing stuff up in m0, keys should be better since we're about consistency

runic violet
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like... really bad

random shadow
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once we get to higher keys, more big packs and stuff live longer we're kinda better

random shadow
runic violet
rugged sphinx
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where do i look to find break points for our secondary stats?

random shadow
rugged sphinx
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ah okay

runic violet
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I'm spamming rampage whenever I can. still so low

hybrid yew
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that's way too low

fading sky
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u deffo arent spammin it then

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😄

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wait u using RUIN

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kek

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so sad

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i pray for u

hybrid yew
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isn't rampaging ruin good in M+ big pulls

runic violet
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just certain AOE encounter.

random shadow
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in both ST and AOE

modest condor
lean haven
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@runic violet thats durring aoe? or overall?

runic violet
fading sky
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m8

hybrid yew
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huh, so is rampaging ruin bait talent then

fading sky
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u never take rampaging ruin

modest condor
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yes

fading sky
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never

hybrid yew
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alright, bet, goodbye rampaging ruin

fading sky
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esp as thane

random shadow
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just use wowheads talents

reef laurel
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yeah dont tank ram ruin, it's a trick

random shadow
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very simple folks

hybrid yew
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i'm a slayer stan

lean haven
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@runic violet so Bloodbath is more prio on ST that Blast?

reef laurel
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method guides are always bad these days

modest condor
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it needs 7 targets to break even with normal rampage, but you lose half your rampage damage on your prio target

random shadow
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take wowhead talents, look at rotation, do what it says

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ezpz

runic violet
modest condor
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yeah because you're playing rampaging ruin

fading sky
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yeah

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when u play bad talents

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go figure dmg is not what it should be

karmic fiber
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Is it worth making a 272 weapon atm?

random shadow
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no

modest condor
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no

reef laurel
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dont take this

modest condor
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you'd just be wasting hero crests

lean haven
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So u say the Method guide is not the best, y?

tardy hedge
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i m forced playing healer cuz i cant play 5 hours per day 🙁

runic violet
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let me go ahead one more round

reef laurel
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bc it recommends bad talents

random shadow
strange oyster
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yo guys does anyone know an addon that can display my rage on my screen

rotund ginkgo
lean haven
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just brain off, go for the wowhead and do as written there

rotund ginkgo
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He just fucking hits hard

reef laurel
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idk if they changed it but it was recommending ram ruin

runic violet
fading sky
runic violet
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M+ talent

strange oyster
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instead of this does anyone know one with that displays the rage with numbers ??

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like any addons

reef laurel
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bcdm and better tracked bars

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for me anyway

rotund ginkgo
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@sullen dove i enjoyed him, got him 3rd try. Was just a pain with the damage at the end.

rotund ginkgo
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Lyveza was more fun

modest condor
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yeah boss is pretty much just a gear check, but the gear requirement is like ilvl 240

devout grove
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Please be honest with me, and no troll, are warrior bad at Crown of the Cosmis or am I just terrible?

random shadow
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crown seems fine

strange oyster
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@rare garnet ty ty bro much app

fading sky
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Rampaging ruin needs to be changes

reef laurel
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it's a trap talent

fading sky
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sensei recourse bars

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shows bar with number in it

strange oyster
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yeah its good

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its really useful

reef laurel
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bcdm and better tracked bars for me just as an alternative

clever path
random shadow
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ik its not centered and aligned im too lazy to change it

fading sky
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Unhalted unitframes

hybrid yew
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as Thane on single target fights do you only use thunderclap when it's lightning blast or whatever?

strange oyster
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Does bcdm and track bars tell u if ur enraged does it display it ?

clever path
fading sky
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it is not custom

hybrid yew
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man it's pretty crazy the difference of AoE vs Raid single target talents is like.....1 talent, and it barely makes a diff

sullen dove
clever path
sullen dove
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only times it got rly bad is if adds lived into him coming back and hitting you

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and the last like 20% or so of the fight i feel like he has some sort of enrage thing where he hit a lot harder

fading sky
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mby its sensei resourcebar

random shadow
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sensei is the best bar

fervent river
clever path
fervent river
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Same, except I had a few less abilities shown

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Critcake has a clean set up

clever path
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i tried to export his but didnt work for me somehow

fervent river
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I’ll do some digging, the enrage and fury display timers under the abilties is excellent. I’m sure it’s somewhere

strange oyster
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Does anyone have a nice cooldown manger load out i can use ?

fading sky
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from luxthos

brittle crow
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my ui is the objective truth

rare garnet
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action bars > cdm

brittle crow
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the way is to use both

valid pulsar
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All you need is cmc and eqol enhance

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yey or ney

brittle crow
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would be good

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but ur mobility and utility combined is ick

valid pulsar
brittle crow
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ill send peak once i load in

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empty space between cdm and enrage bar is for sudden death/whirlwind

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etc

rare garnet
valid pulsar
brittle crow
untold heart
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If anyone can review these logs, and provide feedback would be great;
THis first log our AMZ where outside of melee and the adds spent a lot of time out of range in the poop, idk if that is the only issues I had. Also, wondering if cd timing was ok
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MNxJw93KnzdaX8Bf?fight=29&type=damage-done&source=8

got bad SD procs slowing BS timing
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MNxJw93KnzdaX8Bf?fight=21&type=damage-done&source=8

rare helm
# brittle crow

I love your ui. Clean and simple. Are you using any addon?

brittle crow
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i keep the whirlwind bar on it disabled

rare helm
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Will try them thx u

dense elbow
rare garnet
brittle crow
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killed it last night

valid pulsar
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as fury ?

brittle crow
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ya

valid pulsar
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that goes hard i had to do it as prot

brittle crow
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wasnt hard took 4 tries

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wouldve been 1st try but my dumb ass warrior brain kicked the ogre instead of the boss

dry hawk
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I did it as prot, took about 2hrs

brittle crow
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tho im ngl i feel like dropping massacre for ER is the play on prog cuz thane execute phase isnt exactly huge

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while ER is always huge

dense elbow
modest condor
brittle crow
valid pulsar
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i did that twice and died once at 0,5%

modest condor
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no

valid pulsar
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😂

modest condor
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but you're not the first to think so

brittle crow
modest condor
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tbf i dont think i would have killed him first try even if i didnt mess up that kick because that last phase was killing me

brittle crow
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cuz i mouseover bloodthirst/execute

modest condor
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i had a couple of sub-5% wipes just because of how much damage he was doing

brittle crow
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yea he trucks in last phase idk what causes it exactly

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i was 1 melee away from death when he died because valeera wanted me to clench

dry hawk
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Stacking enrage

brittle crow
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O

modest condor
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it's just his enrage yeah

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every phase adds a new mechanic, the last one is enrage

brittle crow
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damn no wonder i did better when i stopped saving cds for adds

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oh nvm its only last phase

slim merlin
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In Slayer should you hold bladestorm/recklessness to make them align or just let em rip whenever

brittle crow
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u hold bladestorm for reck, u dont hold reck for bladestorm, unless its vaguely close enough to lining up, and theres exceptions

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👍

modest condor
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hold bs if reck is less than 30sec

slim merlin
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sick ty

sour thorn
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do you guys cast the puzzle box right after charge and befoire reck/avatar?

dense elbow
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before, and never again

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Man I hate box

summer quail
brittle crow
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i thought it was a slayer talent loll

shrewd dew
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Is it mountain thane for m+ this season?

little gust
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hey guys, I'm new here... I'm kind of confused why wowhead, icyveins and method would all recommend "Bellamy's Final Judgement" (2H Mace) as the BiS weapon for a fury warrior when it has Mastery Crit stats... when typically we want Haste/Mastery?

olive wraith
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Just happens to be the best stat combination

modest condor
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just because haste/mast are our best stats doesnt mean you want to completely ignore everything else

little gust
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oh right... so you're saying at the BiS level, the other items have so much haste that its better to have some crit on the weapon instead?

modest condor
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yes

rare garnet
# brittle crow

okay, i kinda liked the theory of what you did there, time to move my UI around again and freak out during raid when my eyes dont go to where they're used to looking

little gust
# modest condor yes

thanks, if that's the case then that gives us a lot more flexibility on items (many different ways to achieve the ideal stat ratio)

brittle crow
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nobody understands that u should group icons by function

rare garnet
brittle crow
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ur cc goes in its OWN COMPARTMENT and so do ur DEFENSIVES and MOBILITY and COOLDOWNS

dense elbow
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the illegal dam breakdown:

brittle crow
modest condor
rare garnet
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kinda wish auto was higher

modest condor
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shouldnt have nerfed auto attacks

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25% auto attack damage breakdown gaming

rare garnet
brittle mauve
#

hey ya'll i see the guide in updates midnight for ?? boss but do we need to do a t11 delve first or just t10?

modest condor
#

t10

brittle mauve
#

ok ty

#

I shall make an attempt...

rare garnet
#

go prot, hold W, t11 unlocked

brittle mauve
#

XD

hearty ravine
#

What's the prio when BT, Rampage, and Execute are all available and im already enraged? I assume BT, or is it execute for deep wounds then BT?

modest condor
#

even as fury clearing a t10 was easy

brittle mauve
#

i just did the t10 grudge pit, super easy

#

just slam it

rare garnet
#

true, i just like pulling half the instance

modest condor
#

fair

open mountain
#

question regarding slayer.. played it first time wednesday in raid and my bladestorm and reckless got really hard desynced, kinda normal i think. but how do i play it optimally ? i will never delay recklessness for bladestorm, right? but will delay bladestorm to put it into a recklessness window? how long a delay is "worth" ? 🙂

young swan
#

30s

rare garnet
#

alternatively, until adds spawn for pad

brittle crow
#

what am i supposed to do if i get both the dispel and soak assignment on chimaerus

#

if i get dispelled first then soak i bleed to death

#

healer check or me issue

sullen dove
#

health pot

#

but yea idk dont have dispell on you for that long

rare garnet
#

d stance, reflect, health pot

sullen dove
#

could prolly be solved by somethin more from both parties

brittle crow
#

i reflect the soak

#

idk if i should reflect the dispel instead

#

but yea i forget dstance

rare garnet
#

impending victory

#

scream for heals

brittle crow
#

i wonder if thats a valid call for externals

summer quail
#

self rally

brittle crow
#

self rally might b the play

#

is it up for every soak that im in

#

it should be right

sour thorn
#

Hi guys do you macro odyns fury with reck and avatar?

brittle crow
#

no

sour thorn
#

Ah ok what’s the ideal time to of

brittle crow
#

depends on what time it is

sour thorn
#

Initial opener

brittle crow
#

after a specific ramp

#

look @ wowhead opener

#

copy it

rare garnet
#

when you can use it or if pad is coming close

sour thorn
#

Ok

rare garnet
#

i wish it gave ww stacks

marsh wagon
#

why does wowhead say haste>mastery but icy viens says mastery>haste ?

sour thorn
#

Seems safe to macro together but keep a separate button for OF. With 4 PC they never line up anymore after opener. Just got the last piece today

#

Slayer I see it’s different can’t macro together

young swan
#

it doesnt really matter

#

u want a lot of both

sullen dove
#

chadge

untold yacht
#

Can I just thane the whole raid?

marsh wagon
#

thank you

rare garnet
sullen dove
summer quail
quiet geyser
strange oyster
#

how do you tell if thunderblast is at 2 stacks

graceful elk
#

Anyone running slayer for raid

valid pulsar
#

I think i will look at warcraftlogs and see what the top parsers play and play this

#

😄

winter axle
#

I'm getting frustrated with how bad I am at Fury... I just don't get what I'm doing wrong lol. I want to learn but I feel acoustic as fuck

median umbra
#

being autistic is actually an advantage playing this nerd game

winter axle
#

I'm more ADHD than autistic. I lose focus on what I'm doing ez as fuck

#

I've always had a problem retaining information that was 'taught' to me, and then when I get into a raid it's nowhere to be found.

valid pulsar
#

there is still the one button assistant

#

or highlight assistant

winter axle
#

I have the highlight assistant on and when I follow it, it's like 10k dps less than my sim.

#

I try not to

summer quail
valid pulsar
winter axle
#

Their's a log review channel? I don't see it

#

oh shit

#

there it is

pearl ocean
#

Top warcraft logs for vorasious is thane and imperator slayer, that feels so backwards?

summer quail
#

@compact knot this is cosmos nm

compact knot
#

seems like it works normally for warrior then

#

sadge

summer quail
#

yuh i did see on bloodmallet that it sims way higher for unholy than anything else

valid pulsar
#

looks like both hero talents are doing good

#

i like that

compact knot
#

the bloodmallet sim isnt working for the trinket for unholy

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its in reality much better

#

its tied with a couple other trinkets

pearl ocean
#

Dragons is thane right?

sullen dove
#

yea

valid pulsar
#

ye

spare steppe
#

is it me or does heroic vorasius have a nutty damage check?

summer quail
compact knot
#

oh the actual values

plain bough
#

ive just had a hero weapon drop from a delve guess i dont need to make the crafted now :<

compact knot
#

i was looking at %'s for the specs themsleves

warm dove
#

what do people think of this talent? I have been having fun aiming the waves lol

reef laurel
cunning sentinel
#

So wait until bug gets fixed before using a delve bounty? Did it get fixed yet?

sullen dove
#

what bug

#

oh the loot thing idk never noticed anything like that

winter axle
#

Alright I dropped my logs for both Thane vs Dummy and Slayer vs Dummy in the review channel, and honestly I did pretty decent against the dummies so I think I just need to panic less and focus more in raids.

sullen dove
#

justk inda used all my keys and turned out p fine

#

think just random placebo confirmation bias bug thing probably..

cunning sentinel
#

cool ty

young swan
#

its also very weird in the fury kit

#

cause all of our other aoe is in a 360

spare steppe
warm dove
marsh wagon
young swan
#

it can be fun to fool around with but im happy it sucks

edgy widget
marsh wagon
#

Okay, that makes more sense. Thank you

sudden tusk
#

all hail

#

piss @sullen dove

sullen dove
#

peepee

sudden tusk
#

@dapper goblet smorbsmish doesnt deserve ranks from boss he didnt kill

sullen dove
#

now xeos

dapper goblet
#

the shadow council has spoken

#

dont let it go to your head little smorbmish

desert dirge
#

is there anything in fury that can proc this?

#

not sure if you fuck around with a weapon enchant or anything

summer quail
#

from nexus point

umbral gull
modest condor
#

wtf swordfish yellow

summer quail
#

wtff they letting anyone be yellow nowadays

#

bet it was xan abuse of power

desert dirge
modest condor
#

must have been

desert dirge
#

that neck is so bad spriests dont even want it

summer quail
#

has good stats. lots of haste

desert dirge
#

yeah I grabbed it cuz the rest of my raid was like naaaaaaaaaah

#

felt bad, now feel less bad

hollow leaf
sullen dove
#

4sets pretty cool

#

(only normal)

raw canyon
#

Thinking there all the Same ILVL which two are you taking?

rare garnet
#

soredish goat

undone flower
#

wtf you are yellow now

hollow leaf
#

I hate vessel though

desert dirge
#

outside of simming, typically one on-use and one passive are kinda good practice?

#

the turbo brains may correct me

rare garnet
#

you're absolutely not going to see those fucking spirits

raw canyon
#

Thanks yall

edgy widget
#

can confirm, Vessel is massive bait - easy on a dummy, but practically impossible in real content

#

Puzzlebox is good for big burst

brittle crow
#

idk vessel feels fine in raid

#

m+ a different story

#

idk where my rep trinket went lol

#

its not in item restore and its not in my inventory

#

oh it is in my inventory

brittle crow
sour thorn
#

can you get tier pcs from pvp this week wihout catalyst?

#

from ratings

plain bough
#

just had a hero track 2h drop from delve

brittle crow
#

i got a saptor paw :3

#

and then 4 other champ level saptor paws

plain bough
#

oh my

sullen dove
#

crucible cool

#

just a worse vorasius trink but still cool

wheat lantern
#

would y'all rock these , or switch up heart with crucibles ?

#

HoW that is

vivid pollen
brittle crow
#

am i dumb

#

does havoc need to actually walk over and pick up its souls

spare steppe
sullen dove
#

wind might be better

#

2 crit trinkets might be too much

wheat lantern
#

seems like its saying crit by a smidge on single , but prob different aoe

sullen dove
#

yea i mean they seem like pretty similar trinks so up to you ig

wheat lantern
#

Yeah I feel that , ty ty

summer quail
#

go heart for the effect

split comet
#

As fury is massacre even worth it as thane

#

better off just taking enraged regen?

undone flower
#

Freewill

summer quail
split comet
#

ah

hollow gate
#

We using puzzle box for raid? I hate the channel time

split comet
#

I'm just spamming Bloodthirst and blast

wheat lantern
#

also goes with improved execute

#

free big rage increase

split comet
#

feel like i never get that many executes off

wheat lantern
#

and 10% more dmg on your next rampage after a execute

undone flower
summer quail
wheat lantern
#

i usually throw it in when its lit up

split comet
#

no its not

#

mutou

#

not as thane.

valid pulsar
#

prio lists bt over execute

summer quail
#

oh ye you right i clicked on wrong thing

#

mbmb

undone flower
#

But it’s over regular rampages, so you press it quite often

split comet
#

here's a fight i did

#

yesterday

#

i wasn't pressing execute that often

#

30x

#

bloodthirs and BB -134x

inner patrol
#

Becos i offspec prot often for dungeons do you guys think 2x arcanoweave on wrist and back is a good idea? Or im missing out big by not crafting weapon for fury?

wheat lantern
#

weapon next week with myth crest if ur seriously going ham

#

then wait for another week and get bracers

split comet
#

Yeah i wonder - jury is still out. I think BB and BT is prio'd even more over execute at 35%

#

due to vicious contempt

wheat lantern
#

or you can get the PvP heralds and make bracers

#

246 bracers

#

@inner patrol

undone flower
split comet
#

yeah i just mean it would be even more reason

inner patrol
split comet
#

to not take a talent

#

that does 35%

#

execute

#

is all

#

i guess fills gaps slightly

wheat lantern
split comet
#

i'm doing H alleria rn trying to figure out if i should take enraged regen lol

wheat lantern
#

cant do damage when youre dead

split comet
#

better untalent avatar then

wheat lantern
#

nice damage reduction

summer quail
#

the weird thing is maxroll prios exe over bt as thane in execute phase. so chances are whichever you press largely doesn't matter

wheat lantern
#

once were geared to the teeth , enraged will be dropped almost regardless

split comet
#

what is maxroll

undone flower
summer quail
split comet
#

oh that rotation is way diff than what i was looking at

#

on wowhead/icyveins

summer quail
#

wowhead guide is way easier to understand tho

undone flower
#

Basically

split comet
#

yeah - rather do top dam than easy to understand if possible lol

undone flower
#

You sometime do top dam when you do the easy thing

gleaming marlin
#

whats a good sim for this raid / M+ just regular degular patchwerk?

sullen dove
#

ye

gleaming marlin
#

my king soredish

#

how're these statpadders getting 100k+ on this first boss in normal

sullen dove
#

lot of adds

#

holding cds for em

gleaming marlin
#

stg in my group

#

they got ONESHOT

#

saw someone have 100k+ in a 4min encounter bro must be the goat

hardy shuttle
#

i just joined my buddys alt raid. i went from low 80 parses to 97, 97, 98 just because they do way less damage than my raid. just not possible to out burst some specs

gleaming marlin
#

@sullen dove oh also should i take off potion of recklessness for these sims?

gleaming marlin
#

763 mastery and 743 haste rn

#

i saw someone earlier saying their sims were whack

#

cause of the pot no?

undone flower
#

You should sim with what you will be using

sullen dove
#

yea you want mast to be your highest stat for the pot

gleaming marlin
#

im a broke boy so ill just take off all pots for now

undone flower
#

So don’t sim with pot, but you will do less dmg anyway

gleaming marlin
#

yea

undone flower
#

Use rank 1 pots

#

They are not that expensive

gleaming marlin
#

we using mastery flask?

summer quail
gleaming marlin
#

people sim flasks ????

undone flower
#

If magister is mastery yes we use that

gleaming marlin
#

well anyway ignore my dumbass

#

yea

#

i have to use mastery to make sure mastery is for recklesness

#

appreciate yall

summer quail
#

some sim more than others ofc

wheat lantern
#

shit i got like 1,005 haste / 562 mastery atm

ripe kelp
#

It gets better with gear right? I relatively new to fury since arms is fucking dead and I'm struggling to maintain 36-38k DPS on a dummy at 249 ilevel

wheat lantern
#

yeah warr is pretty gear dependant

ripe kelp
#

I made a hero tier weapon since I don't push m+ till way way later in the season just feels kind of bad I did a garbage 32k DPS on alleria normal x.x and sat out for the guild's first prog into heroic

rare garnet
gleaming marlin
#

does oil of dawn do dmg??

#

im reading the in game description and it seems like it doesnt

ripe kelp
#

I'm pretty casual all up I was doing even worse on a dummy as arms I was barely peaking at 34k sustained

#

(On a dummy)

gleaming marlin
#

whats your dmg breakdown?

#

also are you ST?

#

most of the content RN isnt ST

ripe kelp
#

Yeah ST on dummies I've just been playing around with dummies after the raid I think I was mountain thane on alleria hmm lemme look

west furnace
#

whats the thinking process for first heroic crests. i dont think my guild will clear heroic...should i save for vault or burn them now on crafting heroic level weapon

#

clear this week*

sullen dove
#

ok maybe the loot thing is bugged

#

why did i get 2 weapons in a row from my nightmare preys on dk

gleaming marlin
#

you playing 2H frost?

sullen dove
#

uh... no

#

unholy

gleaming marlin
#

damn

sullen dove
#

even tho kinda boring

#

just playin with low gear friends

gleaming marlin
#

ah

ripe kelp
gleaming marlin
ripe kelp
#

I think I was taking improved whirlwind? O_< My spec might need to be tweaked too

gleaming marlin
#

are you MT?

#

@ripe kelp this is why we dont hit whirlwind

ripe kelp
#

Oh right that makes sense derp

#

Is slayer doing better with these encounters or should I stick with MT since it's all so add-tastic?

wheat lantern
#

Only time I do WW is when I charge macro + a global WW into my charge , then go from there

gleaming marlin
#

but you can go slayer too

#

i would just "warcraftlogs.com" then search the boss fight swap to fury warrior only

#

and see whats most popular

vivid pollen
ripe kelp
#

Sheesh slayer pretty much all the way with raid bosses?

vivid pollen
# summer quail they do

Why would you execute over BT in execute phase, there's no way it does more damage than vicious contempt

undone flower
vivid pollen
#

Unless it's specifically for the 10pc to rampage dmg?

summer quail
#

🤷‍♂️

rare garnet
undone flower
#

I think next week you will see these % moves toward thane

rare garnet
#

for sure, and probably even more so when mythic

undone flower
#

Like, quite a lot move

rare garnet
#

but today is today and even tomorrow im playing slayer

undone flower
#

Im switching thane tomorrow for crown of cosmos

sudden tusk
#

somethings not right because ive seen like 40 piosts about it

undone flower
#

I got 4 weapons on my druid yesterday

gleaming marlin
#

any reason to do a delve above 8?

sturdy wasp
#

Did blizzard fix the recrafting bug with weapons? allowing you to have both slots really high ilvl with one weapon?

#

that was present in TWW

upper wigeon
#

i still have not had a delve map drop

#

sad

sudden tusk
indigo totem
upper wigeon
#

tyyyyy

vast trail
#

hey does anyone know if this trinket is simming correctly?

mossy valley
#

don t make mistake as i did don t buy 2nd beacon of hope for 5k undercoin coz u are limited to one map per week and u will just waste 5k coind as i did

woven valley
#

i mean its been 1 map a week since tww

vivid pollen
#

That's about it I think

vivid pollen
vast gorge
#

whats the proper puzzle box usage?

modest condor
#

use before you press reck

sudden tusk
#

1950 down

tame saddle
sullen dove
#

thought enchants at 2100

#

dat cool

sudden tusk
#

1950

random shadow
#

Do yall leave pizza out or put it in the fridge

sullen dove
#

prolly more sanitary to put in fridge but like i am blowin that shit up in the microwave the moment it hits my plate anyway

sudden tusk
#

fridge

undone flower
#

Fridge or leave in the oven

sullen dove
#

i think of all foods to leave out tho pizza prolly one of the most reasonable

#

idk how european households will just let meat sit out for like multiple days

#

and i mean shih ive eaten that meat and it seems fine most of the time but it do be wack

undone flower
#

You don’t, you fucking die if you leave meat at room temperature for a day

sullen dove
#

maybe its more winter activities or something

#

but like a meat stew or somethin

#

just sittin

undone flower
#

Oh yeah winter I just leave stuff in the garage

sullen dove
#

just like on the stove overnight and maybe for a coupla days sometimes

undone flower
#

Yes I might have lasagnas sitting in the garage rn

sullen dove
surreal token
sullen dove
#

retweet

undone flower
#

But it’s cold enough, I don’t put beer or Coca Cola in the fridge

sullen dove
#

well yea thats cold for flavor

#

vs cold for food not going bad

#

if my soda dont got ice in it gg its ass

undone flower
#

If you eat just the next day it doesn’t need to be frozen

#

Like 5° (commie degrees) is enough cold

#

mb they are sitting in the oven

wary salmon
#

Yall are fuckin disgusting lol. Straight up askin for it

#

Lemme guess. Yall be keepin rice more than a day too?

grim mural
#

If I'm not gonna craft a weapon this week I should send champ crests on weapon right?

stable wedge
#

Hey guys, how should I sim for M+? I know from the past that "Dungeon Slice" is often not the way to go...like 5 targets cleave?

graceful rapids
#

I like to Sim 1 target, 5 targets and 10 targets and figure out which spec has the best overall performance.

keen kindle
#

They'll be invalidated by the time u reach 10s

odd crater
#

What’s the best way to sim my trinkets? I was thinking doing one sim with none, then a sim per trinket with one equipped and pick the two that sim highest?

#

I got like 5 trinkets and don’t wanna sim every possible combo of them

ripe hinge
#

The achievment for aquiring 4set to drop further catalyst charges is no longer account wide - is that correct?

keen kindle
#

Unfortunately itd probably be best to just sim evrey possible comvo

odd crater
ripe hinge
keen kindle
#

But....y...yeah you might

#

I too have been blursed with endless trinkets

random shadow
#

I've yet to aquire a tier piece smh

keen kindle
#

Same

#

Did evreything but crown

#

No loot

#

Id do normal or heroic on two characters but man I really dont hate myself

odd crater
#

I did LFR on 3 characters, full normal on my warrior, heroic chimera, and heroic void tomorrow.

Not a single tier piece on anyone

keen kindle
#

This is just how evrey heroic week goes

#

Hope for tier in vault gg go next with cata for 2 piece

odd crater
#

I did manage to get 2 pieces of Hero though

#

Chest and Boots

keen kindle
#

All I got was a champ weapon

#

Bro even prey gave me ass loot and not a single upgrade on either character

odd crater
#

Nothing hurt my soul more than Heroic chimera trinket going to the lowest DPS in the group lol

keen kindle
#

My heroic week luck is absoutle yrash

odd crater
#

I was second highest roll

keen kindle
#

Then again I imagine both my vaults will be too

odd crater
#

Yeah, I’m struggling to even complete all the progression content on my warlock this week after going absolutely HAM on my Warrior

#

Redoing preys is just… ugh

keen kindle
#

I honestly don't enjoy prey

#

I will happily never touch that shit again outside of maybe the weekly 4 hards

odd crater
#

And i’ve ran so many M0’s I need a break lol

keen kindle
#

Cuz I want the mana wyrm

#

Yeah today is my break

#

I didnt even bother with m0s

#

I just couldn't be fucked

odd crater
#

Man I did my 4 nightmares, it’s just such a slog

keen kindle
#

Imma go play like....eso or no mans sky

#

Probally no mans sky

odd crater
#

I’d rather it be quicker to get to the prey fight, but make him harder of some shit

random shadow
#

Im not gonna do any dungeons till tusedua. No point besides min maxing secondary stats

keen kindle
random shadow
#

I dont is the thing

#

Im full champ

odd crater
#

Pretty much yeah. I only really care about raid and alts for remainder of this week. Hell, I might even give Crimson Desert a try

keen kindle
#

Oh then you don't care

#

Enjoy your luck

random shadow
#

Could do better secondary like haste mastery but gonna get replaced

#

What luck

#

No tier pieces keks

keen kindle
#

Bro at least you got loot

#

I barely got shut

odd crater
#

Yeah I just got full champ+ and now M0’s mean nadda

#

Womp, I’ve managed to be 255 this week so far

random shadow
#

I mean being real here. Only the 4p matters since you get to farm cata in keys

keen kindle
#

Yeah

random shadow
#

While you farm gear

keen kindle
#

Both my toons are around 245

random shadow
#

Im kinda whatever atp. I'll get the 4p soon or later. Gonna farm keys anyways

keen kindle
#

And I can't be fuxked to grind 5 more ilvls. Burnt out

odd crater
#

If you ever need tools crafted/recrafted, I can do it 🙂

#

Easy R5’s all day long

keen kindle
#

No I just cant spell

random shadow
#

I like keys and dungeons so it snot burnt out for me since I luke hitting stuff

#

But no point in gear rng department since its gonna get replaced

keen kindle
#

Yeah tbh the only reason I came back for midnight is keys

#

....and also because fellowship felt like shit and also fell off a cliff

random shadow
#

I see lots of the same 3 dungeons for farming hero versions next tuseday snd Wednesday

odd crater
#

My whole M+ group is just chillin’ until next week.

We runnin Prot Pally, Surv Hunter, BM Hunter, Me, Resto Sham 🙂

keen kindle
#

So I have no alternative

#

Doubble hunter is crazy

random shadow
#

Shouldve gotten Brewster

#

Brewmaster

odd crater
#

Meh, it’s all RL friends

keen kindle
#

Ahhhh

random shadow
#

Make bm go dk or something

odd crater
#

Vibes > min/maxing to that degree

keen kindle
#

So you get to actually have fun

random shadow
#

Min maxing while having fun

#

Brew pumps

#

Looks Hella fun tbh

keen kindle
#

My one friend who plays wow has a completely different schedule and also hates playing with me

odd crater
#

We were clearing 15’s before midnight, so it worked out

keen kindle
#

The last time we played together they did 800k in ToP 10

#

And we called eachother trash dps

random shadow
#

Idk 15s during turbo before midnight were easy. Then again I stopped playing before turbo

keen kindle
#

Mandatory thank god turbo is gone post

odd crater
#

I mean, vault is getting maxxed, vibes are good, and I get to zug zug hard and not worry about shit groups

#

Ez pz imo

keen kindle
#

Yeah id rather have fun with that

#

Then throw myself at the mercy of pugs

random shadow
#

Sadly my guild doesnt really go higher. Maybe this season

#

But realistically probably not really push higher then 15 without pugging

keen kindle
#

Gonna go for 3k again then call it gg

random shadow
#

3k every easy

#

Doable first week

keen kindle
#

Sure

random shadow
#

Where all the cracked players play zd

keen kindle
#

If you go full degen

random shadow
#

Nah just gotta play at the right times

#

First week where all the good players play

#

I remember meeting a liquid benched resto shaman first week of season 3 lol

keen kindle
#

Crazy

random shadow
#

Had the guild info and all that

#

Never saw him again tho

silent trail
random shadow
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S3 was different tho since we had strong gear. But we're getting pumped lots of champ gear currently

random shadow
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But its also the week where lots of folks take the week off of work

keen nimbus
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alright can someone help me out. after simming myself, the puzzle box sims lower then what i have. which seems hard to believe

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am i doing the input wrong ?

keen kindle
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Patchwrexk 5 minutes 1 target

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Ofc its gonna be lower. Youre simming it at a time where it dosent even get a second cast

restive fiber
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Is there any difference in dps between these two weapons ?

keen kindle
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Craft whatever looks coolest or is cheaper

restive fiber
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not even a minor difference ?

keen kindle
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No

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Weapons are mostly homongized in wow

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....besides daggers but we dont use those

compact knot
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easiest one to spec into

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also best looking icon

restive fiber
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i dont know why the axe have more dps then all the others 0.1 not that much

undone flower
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Sorry, the axe is best looking this tier

keen kindle
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Like even if you simmed them

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They'd probably sim within margin of error