fury

[snow quartz]

for m+ is it slayer or thane?

[sullen dove]

thane

[tawny helm]

thane

[floral anchor]

Thanks! It won’t fetch the data 🙁

[sullen dove]

it might be hard to read on mobile

which is what it looks like the ss is from

[compact knot]

Yeah mobile wcl is chopped

[sullen dove]

would at minimum recommend turning phone to landscape to even try

[floral anchor]

Ohhhhh okay

[sullen dove]

but otherwise think just computer that shit

[floral anchor]

Damnnn. I NEED TO LEARN ON THE STREETTTSSSS

[sullen dove]

baseg

[floral anchor]

Thanks guys. Love this chat hahaha

Oh if I do landscape I can see

Thanks 🙂

[sullen dove]

w

[forest berry]

i cant dps on mono, must be braindead

[ocean ore]

i can't seem to get the positioning right on thane to cleave vaelgor and other dragon, maybe its tank position thing idk

[blissful hound]

In P1 you cant really do that ye

[lunar reef]

Zug zug?

[marble dirge]

zUG ZUG

[spare agate]

ZUG ZUG

[unreal iris]

ZUG ZUG

[vague stump]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dTG3rRkT4x3fPMF6BnWdqK

big gaming

[sullen dove]

holy double forward

[sudden tusk]

Well with the new system now you have to gamba for bis

Minigamers in shambles

Pay per week per chance

[vague stump]

1st normal raid high rolled 2 tier and bis trinket. big gaming

hopefully high roll 1 tier piece in vault and then ill be gucci

[sullen dove]

h dreamrift pull first big add doesnt have its shield broken

cinema

maybe pugs are more cursed than i thought

[vague stump]

people dont really understand to not blast cds if your in 1st soak. hurts my brain

[sullen dove]

i mean you can if you just do good dam

but prolly have to hold for adds at pyea

lust should still be rolling for most of it

[vague stump]

yeah I just think all 2 min cd classes pop everything on pull then when add phase comes they have piss all dmg

[normal shuttle]

are peeps running mountain thane or slayer for heroic raid?

[vague stump]

depends on boss

[sullen dove]

bout 50/50

[normal shuttle]

anyone have a list of which boss? im going in blind for the most part

[vague stump]

and also your raid comp tbh

[sullen dove]

would say thane very much best for first 4th and 5th boss of voidspire

can slayer the rest

[normal shuttle]

sweet

[sullen dove]

and either or on chimerus tho prolly slayer

[vague stump]

funny that the top 2 parses on 1st boss are slayer though

[surreal token]

When are we expecting tuning announcement to drop

[vague stump]

theyre just gamers I guess

[dire vigil]

@sudden tusk I love the rend/rb tech. Thanks for the vid

[sudden tusk]

Np rend blow up

[smoky vale]

goat quote from @dapper goblet

[sullen dove]

i wrote that goofy

follow the forward chain

[smoky vale]

dont care

just got out chem lab

[dapper goblet]

erm thats my quote

[smoky vale]

pure aids

yo unc how you been

[sullen dove]

ok think heroic pug groups are not possible

i took the guild run for granted

[smoky vale]

where the pug get stuck at

[vague stump]

1st add dmg by the sounds of it lol

[unborn delta]

first 3 are puggable

[sullen dove]

not doing any damage to adds on chimerus and getting only 30% of vorasius's hp down by the end of first beam

[unborn delta]

dragon theres too kmuch individual responsibility with the fear i think

[sullen dove]

yea i think its still like edging too close to enrage territory on these bosses

ppl gear too bad

prolly not enchanted too

obv can stick in a group and play a constant chain of kick low dps and inv new ppl but thatd take like 30min+ per boss

[vague stump]

tbf I just done mine because it added like 6.5% with just chest and legs enchants

[dapper goblet]

not enough warriors + locks to carry the run

[vague stump]

which is mental

[sullen dove]

true

if there were more of me in the raid boss would die in 2 min

real news

[smoky vale]

laval or ish

i think more lavals

[sullen dove]

nah

laval is chud

jk he still kinda owns

[smoky vale]

what does that say about the pilot

[sullen dove]

its weird how the st talents i got off wowhead were just like wrong

or maybe got updated since i last got them

but was only like a week or so before launch

[smoky vale]

prob prepatch talents

for those still playing the game

[odd whale]

I'm at 68.1k sim with the only hero track item being Heart of Ancient Hunger (yolo'd my hero crests on it to up it to 276). Missing champ chest, legs, and boots which hopefully I can get to drop this weekend from m0's. Still have like 300 champ crests to spend too. We only saw 1 warrior tier token after our full normal clear and 5/9 heroic

[rare garnet]

pog

[dapper goblet]

ethical log surely no paddage on the goober adds

[smoky vale]

me when i lie

[rare garnet]

adds have to die, padding is ethical

[dapper goblet]

hes right

[marble dirge]

don't let the mages hear that... @spare agate

[dapper goblet]

forgot about frost magus too

add that to the list

[smoky vale]

that clsss is h

@vocal thorn @waxen vigil you know what the h is

[spare agate]

Holy shit that thing is fun?

[waxen vigil]

I’m hung up on lizard wizard rn

Dragons need to go man

[sullen dove]

dragon very good

unless its in pvp

in which case most disgusting spec to exist

[rare garnet]

bad cocoa

[smoky vale]

got gapped by kess

whats new

[sullen dove]

i mean its not related to kess

any mouthbreather can spam deep breath and disintegrate

came across like 5 different devs that were untouchable

[waxen vigil]

Dragons are just secretly the best class in the game and always get away with it lol

[smoky vale]

does gilg even let you pad

or

is it just always dead

[waxen vigil]

Everything dead 2 seconds

[smoky vale]

xd

[unreal iris]

rampage go zug zug ?

[sullen dove]

ramp good button yes

yea i think pugs undoable chimerus phased at 72% hp

maybe try in 3 days gg

[spare agate]

Bloodthirst go healy healy

[tranquil parcel]

Is it worth using 100 hero crest to get 272 two-hand sword right now? or would it just be waste since we at one point would recraft to myth?

[sullen dove]

yes do not do that

you can maybe send 20 champ on a 5/6 weapon to 6/6 if you want since champs barely matter come next week

[tranquil parcel]

Alrighty, ty for the input.

[smoky vale]

hey gupish

imma do an exam then we do m0

[vague stump]

yeah deffo dont spend hero crests on crafting weapon lol

[rare garnet]

ive pugged chimerus twice today

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-look-stare-awkward-guilty-gif-5289290

bro said m0

[smoky vale]

your gup wl needs

[sullen dove]

my wl is chad

[smoky vale]

laval needs to ascend

[sullen dove]

aside from like a trinket that you cant trade

unless you pred blue man or something

wl does need nemesis boss tho this would be good

[spare steppe]

I may try the nemesis boss as fury though I imagine prot is easier

[sullen dove]

i feel like it isnt

apparently the tank mech owns you as prot

[smoky vale]

that shit does nothing

[forest berry]

Is there any fury war pov from guilds doing splits ?

[sullen dove]

and not doing dmg would be annoying

[smoky vale]

wallife

[spare steppe]

Thats my only worry is adds live forever

[smoky vale]

revvez

critcake

swordish

[sullen dove]

true

[smoky vale]

weswarr

[sullen dove]

that guy is def gonna be streaming splits at any time for the rest of the week

[smoky vale]

turn on the radio and pound the dummy

[sullen dove]

what is wrong wit u

[young swan]

none live atm

https://www.twitch.tv/warriorsarri

sarri live

[ruby scaffold]

okay I gave it a try

[stiff barn]

im guessing thats a bug with 65 myth crests , had the same with hero ones

you only get 30

[ruby scaffold]

O

I'm not going to complain lol

oh yeah

I only got 35

rip

[stiff barn]

yeah , i had the same with hero ones , was wondering where the other 35 were

you still got 35 from the looks of it , i got 30

[river nimbus]

I only got 30 as well.

someone in my guild has 35 too.

maybe the 5 is from somewhere else? 🤷

[stiff barn]

small indian company

only other place is delves +11 , but you need lvl 4 journey progression for that

[ruby scaffold]

yeah I'm only 1230/4200 R3 for that

Nice chunk of myth crests to put toward the weapon upgrade at least

[rare garnet]

yeah i got 35

[polar root]

I'm just gonna wait for a week

[brisk talon]

I'm at 55 after doing the delve gilded chests for the week, so you'll be 5 short if you do everything + heroic alleria kill this week

[ruby scaffold]

Are you in his guild? :P

[polar root]

we're soft locked until next week anyways

[sudden tusk]

if you get above 2100 i think you can get gilded from pvp

but thats about it

[echo rapids]

Where are the 30 crests from?

[ruby scaffold]

Nulleaus

[sullen dove]

Was boutta be real mad

[sudden tusk]

smorbSMASH

[echo rapids]

Ahh

[cinder oasis]

Looking at a lot of the top rankings this week, I am seeing a lot of people running Thane for the raid. Are we thinking it will be generally better than Slayer for this tier? Don't have a lot of experience playing it.

[rare garnet]

there are a few places its clearly better, and a lot of places i feel absolutely fine as slayer

[sullen dove]

It’s bout 50/50

Some bosses where thanes a lot better and others where slayer more ethical

good to know both, tho if you have to/want to only play one should prolly be thane

[cinder oasis]

that's actually kinda nice if that's the case

yeah, I will probably want to learn thane for m+ anyway

[peak pine]

Is there an addon that puts a warning on my screen when im in Dstance? If any of you have one do you mind sharing it please?

[rare garnet]

i should play thane for dragons, but we have so many padders i can get away with slayer so do

[rare garnet]

https://addons.wago.io/addons/defensive-stance-reminder

[alpine palm]

A guy in my guild had this happen after killing Nulleus

[sullen dove]

Yea someone posted few min ago that happened

Think in the currency it still correctly shows as 35

[alpine palm]

Oh gotcha

[sullen dove]

Can ask em to check tho ig

[unreal onyx]

sweet

[analog remnant]

just did this and got 35 myth

[teal hawk]

happened to me too when i killed the boss on wednesday but its tooltip bug i guess

[sweet flower]

is fury frankly just not great relative to other dps specs rn? I'm getting cooked in damage in raids

[dense elbow]

From what little raiding I done, I always cooked everyone

Too many adds spawning in for me to nuke, to not win

[tight rune]

Overall we're top 5 specs in raid stats rn, mostly playing thane for cleave

[sweet flower]

where you see that?

[sullen dove]

Ya we are pretty pwnage on pad aoe

not absolute top on any boss

But one of the best for dragons probably

rly good first and vanguard

[hardy shuttle]

As is tradition, we will take an aoe nerf that somehow nerfs our ST as well, then the adds will be removed from logs, all is right in the world

[alpine palm]

True and real

[sweet flower]

I use warcraft logs which has us dead middle of the pack I guess

not terrible but not great

[tight rune]

Stats, damage, heroic overall. Top 5

On logs

[sweet flower]

isn't "damage" the whole raid? including all the trash where we do excel cuz it's big AoEs?

[hardy shuttle]

Not trash but includes adds

[sweet flower]

wait really????

I always thought damage was whole raid. damage to bosses was boss encounters

[hardy shuttle]

Bosses is st to the specific boss

[sweet flower]

it's really boss encounters vs. damage specifically to the boss?

[hardy shuttle]

Yeah

[sweet flower]

wow

ok I'm just trash at this class then LOL

but someone else said it. Every guide I've seen has said slayer for raid. Mountain thane is working out better?

[hardy shuttle]

Other classes burst faster than us. We are op if you have ethical guildies. But if specific classes pad then we arent op by any means imo

Thane is good at pad. Well pad on adds that do need to die

[sweet flower]

should I just go with the wowhead Mountain Thane talent setup?

[teal hawk]

this tuning is for sure going to be nerubar palace v2 where they nuked out aoe extremely hard

[rugged sphinx]

is it arcanoweave lining we use on bracers for our 2nd embelishment?

[next mica]

why dosent eye of midnight ring appear on L'ura loot table?

[rancid zenith]

^^ @edgy widget Wowhead consumable guide

[sweet flower]

for raid do I still take improved whirlwind?

[compact knot]

there is literally not a single encounter

where you do not take that talent

not 1

take it every single fight

is very strong

[sweet flower]

so then I'll ask again. What source do people use for guides for these types of things? WoWhead says not to take improved whirlwind.

[compact knot]

the single target build says not to take improved whirlwind

the issue though

is that this raid has 0 single target bosses

[vast trail]

you could argue ruined king is ST

but havnt seen it on mythic yet

[ancient imp]

Can someone tell me what I'm missing on this droptimizer sim? there's no way equal ilvl sidegrade shoulders should be a 1500 dps difference
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/911bDrFwKdQbC74a7ccRr5

[compact knot]

but you lose no dps to take improved whirlwind

and you gain dps from cleaving the balls

so

[vast trail]

the balls arnet much of an issue, and you gain a defensive

[compact knot]

if you scroll up

scroll up like half a page

also can scroll down like 1/4th a page and read

[limpid elbow]

hi

out of rampage. bloodthirst / bloodbath, execute

what is the priority

i see that execute deals the least dmg so is it no .3?

[sweet flower]

thank you. Classic Wowhead. Have a section titled raid talent builds and it doesn't even closely match the actual raid multitarget build

[compact knot]

well it does since you only need to switch 1 talent for it

but its w/e

the tips section also shows u what talent pages to run for every boss

[undone venture]

Recklessness potion possibly changing stat it gives idk

[compact knot]

what is revenge

do you mean raging blow

[limpid elbow]

mybad im tweaking

prot warrior spell

i meant execute

i cant seem to get the priorities straight

[compact knot]

rampage > bloodbath > execute > bloodthirst

[limpid elbow]

is this in dmg order?

[compact knot]

yes

left is highest right is lowest

[limpid elbow]

does the same apply in single target?

[compact knot]

yes

technically rampage isnt the highest priority in all scenarios

but for simplicity it is

[limpid elbow]

wdym

when is it not

[compact knot]

you can play at a 95th percentile literally following that rotation

when you are only like 70 rage its technically better to push a bloodbath then a rampage

[torpid crater]

when are we supposed to execute at 1 or 2 stack of sudden death ?

[compact knot]

if you arent in cds execute is the highest prio other then staying enraged

sudden death stacks dont matter too much

if you are at 2 stacks though execute is the highest prio so you dont eat sudden death stacks

[torpid crater]

So when its available I need to use it ?

[compact knot]

yes

[brittle mauve]

Do we get a catalyst charge once a week starting next week?

[compact knot]

we arent sure but its supposed to be every 2 weeks

[limpid elbow]

why is it better?

[torpid crater]

thank you

[brittle mauve]

I see

Ty

[limpid elbow]

for rage then you rampage and bloodbath is off cd now?

[compact knot]

because bloodbath does more damage then a rampage, and you arent going to waste rage by bloodbathing

[limpid elbow]

but then

[limpid elbow]

isnt bloodbath first?

[frank crystal]

how do we sim crucible trinket ?

[compact knot]

no

[smoky vale]

in reck you use bb to gen rage

you having fun in 4 splits bud

[gaunt loom]

is 1stack thunderblast lower priority than bloodthirst in ST?

[winter shoal]

yes

[gaunt loom]

wow

[compact knot]

in reality the rotation is like

rampage when over 100 rage > bloodbath > rampage > execute > bloodthirst > crushing blow > wrecking throw > rend > raging blow

[winter shoal]

Well

If you're outside avatar at least

[compact knot]

but that is much more convoluted then just saying what i said before

[compact knot]

i like it

minus the lfr

[smoky vale]

lol

[compact knot]

my dk pet was on passive for the first 2 bosses

and i did no damage

and was pissed

[smoky vale]

W

[winter shoal]

need a weakaura for that lil gup

[smoky vale]

kill red

[compact knot]

yeah i got it mid raid

[storm lantern]

Did they just added a red trail on rend or...it's just me?

[compact knot]

spriest might be the most fun spec in the game

[smoky vale]

huh

cap

[compact knot]

atleast on spread cleave fights

nah ts spec is peak

[smoky vale]

you played destro

or

[compact knot]

i dont play purp

[smoky vale]

that shit goes crazy on spread cleave

[sullen dove]

cant tell what number of stats you have but gonna go out on a limb and think its probably swinging so heavily because i presume your haste stat number is ever so slightly ahead of mastery, and all of the options that show they're like 1.5k dps+ even at equal ilvl are either removing some haste or adding more mastery, can check yourself if that is the case, but because your haste might be your highest stat the potion of recklesness is way worse if it gives you 1.6k haste vs if it gave you mastery

[compact knot]

multidotting is so much more cool though

[limpid elbow]

can i rampage under 100 rage?

[smoky vale]

[sullen dove]

seems to be a common problem for alot of ppl rn

[compact knot]

did you even read past the first 2 things i typed

[smoky vale]

you can but you ideally want to at 100

[sullen dove]

i would first try swapping your haste enchants on ring to mastery and see if that improves your dps by just as much cuz if its for the reason i think it is that would probably be enough

[compact knot]

potion of recklessness is such bait

dumb potion

[sullen dove]

even as much as like 15 less haste and 15 more mastery or something as evidenced by the other lowhaste/highmast shoulder being 1.5k better at equal ilvl and almost identical stats

[smoky vale]

you think its mainstat pot

[sullen dove]

i mean it owns if u just have the right gear

[smoky vale]

or

[compact knot]

i only play mainstat pot

idc

[sullen dove]

no way mainstat better than 3x more mastery

[compact knot]

it works like rune of reorigination and its dumb

i hate that trinket

[limpid elbow]

?

[sullen dove]

i mean once ur mast is higher thats pmuch it, unless you get some like giga unlucky hunt embell proc or something its gonna work the same way every time

[smoky vale]

i miss augury

[sullen dove]

even if you pot crit right after like a hunger of devourer proc im sure crit is still a decent stat to have that high over haste

[compact knot]

the rotation changes when in cds vs not in cds

[sullen dove]

bloodthirst > crushing blow will never exist or happen

[compact knot]

i know

[sullen dove]

but ig if thats just for all duration of fighting idk

[sudden tusk]

scroll down

warrior

no changes

hehe

[smoky vale]

arms

🥀

[sullen dove]

no nerf is good change

will not put it past them to kill odyns for a 40th time

and tclap

[compact knot]

no warrior changes

LMAO LMAO LMAO

[sullen dove]

dev buffed 2 microseconds after it was nerfed

[limpid elbow]

?

im asking if i can ramp under 100 rage

[sullen dove]

me when i just push a couple buttons and flip some levers

[limpid elbow]

what is the difference if i do it at 100 or at 80

[compact knot]

yes and the picture says you can

[sullen dove]

rampage is the third button listed in the response

you press it if bb is on cooldown

[celest sierra]

Seeing all these class tunings and warrior still not in any of them fury

[smoky vale]

less rage you need for your subsequent rampage

[compact knot]

omg arms really is the best on paladins now

😭

[sullen dove]

oh so we're racist now

demo nerfed by 4% gg

any frost nerfs orrrr

[compact knot]

devourer buffs

?!

[sullen dove]

ordinarily would never care about this but are they actually dented in the brain

[ancient imp]

You were bang on, ty. Didn't realize mastery reck would be that much stronger

[limpid elbow]

so why is rampage above 100 rage better then at 80

[celest sierra]

Wait arms warrior is a thing ?

[gaunt loom]

outside of cooldowns, with 5 targets or fewer, is rampage higher priority than thunder clap?

[sullen dove]

yea just swap ring enchants and it should fix it and probably boost your dps by a bunch too

[celest sierra]

I thought blizzard nuked Arms into the ground

[sullen dove]

its op on 1 single boss this tier so far

and probably m+ too

but not out yet so doesnt matter

[blissful hound]

Ele sham buffed lmfao

[smoky vale]

#fury message

[compact knot]

it was like

the worst spec in raid

[limpid elbow]

or just answer it pimplehead

[compact knot]

95th percentile it was losing to bear on some fights

[compact knot]

bro we have use your fucking head

[compact knot]

my god

[blissful hound]

Was it really that bad?

[sullen dove]

msg i typed week or two ago

[limpid elbow]

fym you have dumbass

[smoky vale]

lol

[limpid elbow]

all you been typing is look at the picture

mf i understand you put the priority above regular rmapage

[smoky vale]

that is the andwer

[limpid elbow]

im askign why is it above

[smoky vale]

i gave you the answer

[sullen dove]

my picture answers the question

better than this guy

[limpid elbow]

yeah im reading ur picture

[sullen dove]

even tho his answer was right

[limpid elbow]

im talking to the other guy

[smoky vale]

me when his picture is what i said in 20x yap

cheers

[compact knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956065034700726334/1272362174739906672/ezgif-6-9bd2089f65.gif

[sullen dove]

and 10x more vague

[smoky vale]

how is it vague

[sullen dove]

who knows why what u said matters

"have more rage for next rampage"

tis bout le enrage uptime bubbert

we are charlie chuuuuuud we caaarry the flames

did shmio win exam or explode

[smoky vale]

i took nap

then shit

[sullen dove]

lole

[smoky vale]

gotta take it now

[somber thicket]

WTF is this tuning dh BUFF ele BUFF im fck canceling this shit sub

[sullen dove]

real

[compact knot]

ele deserved buff

idk about devourer though

[somber lance]

no arms buff is a genuinely baffling to me

[smoky vale]

refer to #arms

archi explaining why

[somber lance]

oh cant wait for this ty

[viral folio]

where is our buff

5 percent should be nice

[fading bane]

Devourer is new spec, it needs to be the best spec

[viral folio]

arms deserved 40 percent

[lunar wyvern]

Can I say consistently now?

[gaunt loom]

i’m a bit confused about points 10 and 11 — even at 2 targets, is thunder clap still higher priority than rampage?

[smoky vale]

you would have to test on 2t and change apl to see which is better for that specific scenario

[dusty aspen]

reminds me of in dragonflight when warriors weren't mentioned in the patch notes at all after the rasz boss and all the way through forbidden reach. I think Blizzard is scared of warriors thriving in they lanes

[winter shoal]

low rage rampage yeah

you don't generally need to press rampage asap if you're not going to overcap

[edgy widget]

tbf we were talking about 12.0.5 before
if we're talking about live, Arms did have changes last week... even if not the changes it needs!

Fury is in a fine spot though

[gaunt loom]

i see

[random shadow]

Fury feels fine. Tho a small damage increase would've been noice

Tho im just happy no nerfs

Thats all one can hope for. No nerfs lol

[winter shoal]

You kind of want to aim for filling as many of your gcds with high value abilities as possible - if you're at 80 rage with BT off cooldown and you rampage (instead of using the BT), that means you've generated less overall rage and TB procs over the course of the fight, which means you're more likely to need to fall back on RB (which is not very strong atm) to fill the gaps

[frank crystal]

anyone can tell me how to sim crucible trinket ? if its worth equip it or not ?

[sage pollen]

dumb question, is the Whirlwind buffed cleave 360 or just in front of my char?

[winter shoal]

360

I believe it's also based on your character and not the target, but I'm not certain on that

I know that's how sweeping strikes works

as in the center of the 360* cleave radius is your character (I think)

[sage pollen]

ok thanks

[regal marten]

Hey, did someone test the targent count for when we should focus only TC/TB?

[smoky vale]

you are pressing tc tb on cd in aoe

[regal marten]

Since game says "less dmg on 5 targets above" it means even on 6/7 targets BT Rampage combo does more dmg

[smoky vale]

no

[regal marten]

I know what you mean but you lose dmg no?

[smoky vale]

no

if you hit more targets

even if past a point its less

its still more than hitting 5

[regal marten]

Yes but TC does much less dmg in comparison to BT. And BT applies bleed

Even 65% of BT is more than TC

[sullen dove]

you do it at 7 and above

[regal marten]

On Avatar?

[sullen dove]

yea when tclap has half the cd

still prolly spam it otherwise

[regal marten]

Idk how to fix this stupid rotation

[random shadow]

whats wrong with rotation, i dont think its that hard

[regal marten]

There's some minmaxxing you can do to gain more dps

But if you ignore it it's not hard nah

[gaunt loom]

the rotation feels harder than i expected

[random shadow]

i mean its just TC when more then 6 targets, what minmaxxing is there

[regal marten]

You still lose dmg

[compact knot]

you lose damage by thinking too much

just do

[regal marten]

Guys I'm just trying to minmax not chill 😭

[compact knot]

heres my best advice

go hit target dummys and look at the rotation

bang u win

50% more damage

[regal marten]

Yeah but I can't test 8 targets

Or?

[compact knot]

u cant

[regal marten]

Stupid blizzard

[dense elbow]

Just bring with you 3 dummies, and throw em down by the test dummies?

[sullen dove]

i mean the high target rotation is v easy

its lower than that as thane it gets a little jumbled up

juggling prio between tblast/bb/ramp is annoying

otherwise its p easy outside of that

[undone flower]

Or just do the 7 target rotation on the dummies

[sullen dove]

yea

[regal marten]

Yea but I'd rather do that than see a fire mage do more dps than me cause ignite

[sullen dove]

ya i mean thats fine you should be tryin to do it if you can

tblast/clap just takes a bit more of a back seat at 6 mobs or less

hitting it only when tblast has 2 charges and otherwise hitting ramp to not overcap or bb

[regal marten]

Yeah

Lately I saw I could do more dmg by prio on that TB when I have avatar

So I extend it a lot

There's some window you can press Rampage->BB->TB so I don't lose BB casts

[sullen dove]

yea i mean you will almost never not press a tb during avatar to get all your extensions by doing this

its just yea bb on 5-6 targets does more dam cuz it hits harder but after 7-8+ tb/tc being uncapped is worth more

so in super high aoe its very possible you dont hit bb for like 10 seconds straight

[lean heart]

this morning in my AA this guy said "fury seems strong yeh?" i said ehh

blizz agent tryna catch us slippin out there fellas be careful

[sullen dove]

but in smaller packs then you have to worry about it

do NOT say yes to those questions

actual wow fbi

[lean heart]

correct

[raven idol]

false accusations

[regal marten]

It's a bit weird cause what if you try to prio BB and just apply that bleed randomly

But Idk if someone really wants to try that

But no after 8 targets TC is insane huge dmg

With Avatar

[sullen dove]

yea i mean you can hit bb every so often its not like you never do

[regal marten]

I saw that consisntely each pack I can do 120k dps so I think thane is pretty strong

[sullen dove]

just minimum priority/requirement is tclap is always on cooldown and you dont overcap rage

cuz ramp lots of damage + berserk 3% strength stack on all your mass aoe tc

so like ramp > tb > ramp > tb > ramp > tc > bb > tc > ramp etc

is something that could easily happen

and you dont hit bb for like 8 globals

[lean heart]

on 6+ targets with Avatar spamming TC is insanely strong

[raven idol]

u can squeeze in a second rampage

between ur TB cd

[sullen dove]

yea maybe sometimes but doesnt rly matter dont think its easier to stomach just hit clap every other global probably

[lean heart]

lowk whenever i hit 2 ramps in a row is cus im spamming buttons too hard during Reck and they just go thru all good

[raven idol]

yeye i understand what you are implying

[sullen dove]

you def do that a lot more on slayer than thane

[lean heart]

true

[valid pulsar]

same happens to me all the time 😄

[sullen dove]

but thane fuckin puffed up by tblast and tclap being too op

[lean heart]

also it is quite baffling that TB does less dmg than TC no?

[sullen dove]

yea about the same but tblast does more extra shit

lightning strikes is more aoe and +2sec avatar duration extension

[lean heart]

yeh i guess the procs and stuff

[sullen dove]

its weird but honestly dont hate cuz it means aoe dps is consistent

and ur not relying on tb procs to do damage

[lean heart]

[sullen dove]

tho that almost certainly is gonna warrant a nerf eventually

me when i press cds and do the same consistent high dps for 30 seconds straight

and then 20 seconds later i can do it again

[compact knot]

its like ret but worse

[lean heart]

all good keep sandbagging

[sullen dove]

yep everyone only play slayer on every boss of raid please

do not make us look good

slayer on vanguard and dragons especially

[compact knot]

its too late

[lean heart]

real

[compact knot]

95th percentile we are a top 3 spec

[valid pulsar]

what spec do you play on what boss ?

[compact knot]

incoming 25% truth nuke nerf

[limpid tide]

Wdym too late warriors getting no changes is good atm

[sullen dove]

thane on 1/4/5 slayer on the rest is what i like

[humble plover]

We're okay this time but how long till we get Nerubar Palaced

[compact knot]

we arent as crazy as nerubar

[lean heart]

thane on dragons and paladins the rest u can play slayer

[compact knot]

but once more people get tier set

[raven idol]

not the same

[sullen dove]

nerubar 8x worse

[compact knot]

i could see some shit happening

[raven idol]

our tier set is pretty bad

[sullen dove]

ngl i dont think tier will be that impactful aside from dragons

[limpid tide]

All tier sets are pretty bad tbf

[sullen dove]

if u can hit an odyns for every orb spawn which you probably can

its over

[lean heart]

nerubar was egregious

[smoky vale]

cluegi

[lean heart]

but the x7 nerfs after was even more egregious

[raven idol]

bro ppl were padding these mobs so bad hahaha

[sullen dove]

7x nerfs in nerubar fury still top damage on like half of the fights including the last boss

gg

[hardy shuttle]

Our damage comes out over 30 seconds instead of 2 gcds. So im not too worried. My parses between splits with and without a 258 ret pally were entirely different

[sullen dove]

love pad

[humble plover]

Y'all are forgetting blizzard hates us. They might nurf just cuz they want to

[raven idol]

true

[humble plover]

Not their precious baby though, 4% is good enough they can go to school now

[umbral gull]

Loosing to much dps but it’s viable to play slayer, went 65K to 53K overall in m0 but fun and fury Soul still here

[valid pulsar]

Even first boss ?

[sullen dove]

yea good add timing

assuming dont struggle with boss dmg

which might happen in a pug

[valid pulsar]

i only played it on normal so maybe its because adds die so fast there but i feel like the slayer burst during cds for the adds is nice no ?

[sullen dove]

not that fury would contribute that much more to boss

yea bs bit more unreliable

and u prolly get a good 2-3 clap/blasts off on like 10 mobs in heroic

im sure slayer could work

just more rng i think

to have it up every set

just like thane more consistent probably

[umbral gull]

Question gentlemen, in m+ as slayer u still spam BT for the massive dmg ?

[valid pulsar]

alright

[sullen dove]

bt isnt like massive massive but yea its like top 3 buttons probably

no longer super high 67% proc chance reap

just like a flat 35% and its decent dmg on its own

[umbral gull]

Well u hit 100K with that shit so Yeah lot of dmg

[valid pulsar]

but yeah it feels bad when you get no reap or sd proc during add s 😄

[worn yoke]

No single target buffs for fury in the notes seems kinda craaazy no ? Typical story where our boss damage is so low compared to others and we're relying on adds to make the meters look half decent

[valid pulsar]

and it can desync bs and reck by a lot if i get no procs

[smoky vale]

fury doesnt have it bad

[gaunt loom]

with 6+ targets, is thunder clap only higher priority during cooldowns? what about outside cooldowns?

[smoky vale]

if you are gonna complain about boss damage look at arms

[sullen dove]

it does on st a bit but fortunately does not matter as of right now B)

[umbral gull]

Yo sometimes I have to macro packs for exist in détail lmao some class are so broken in single rn

[worn yoke]

Oh I'm well aware of the arms situation but that's for another channel...

[sullen dove]

its probably still a slam on cd angle in high target count outside cds its just in cds it does like an additional 50 something% more damage and has half the cooldown

[smoky vale]

no fury is the channel for everything

[sullen dove]

yea this is gen chat

cluegi

[smoky vale]

[sullen dove]

arms chat is a mausoleum

kept aflame by the hope of 1 good boss for them

absolutely mollywhopping vanguard and doin nothin anywhere else

ripge

[smoky vale]

@frigid zealot wakey wakey

[worn yoke]

Roger that. Arms is absolutely cooked I'm at this point just hoping and coping that more notes come before Wednesday.
However I still think fury ST needs to be addressed. Imo revert the melee hit damage nerf from a while ago

[smoky vale]

the melee damage nerf was to give more to our abilities

[limpid tide]

Is there a good video that explains this soredish?

[sullen dove]

what is this

[smoky vale]

it did nothing

fury st is good

[sullen dove]

like rotation stuff?

[limpid tide]

Like when to use clap more yea

[smoky vale]

do you think baze has a video

[limpid tide]

Didn’t know it was high prio if it wasn’t TB

[smoky vale]

[sullen dove]

think madox does

[limpid tide]

Thought atp it was to refresh WW stacks

[gaunt loom]

slam?

[hallow sphinx]

baze pepega

[sullen dove]

slam the tclap button i mean

not slam itself

[worn yoke]

I feel like our abilities are doing a good amount of damage it's just our profile that's lacking between prio / ST and our AOE being decent-good

[limpid tide]

Is it ( TC) higher prio than RB with WW stacks not in CDs with like 5-6 mobs

[frigid zealot]

hi

[smoky vale]

you excited to cancel bs

[sullen dove]

@limpid tide this prolly has some stuff you may wish to witness

[sullen dove]

well rb is lowest prio in like every situation

so dont think about hitting that on aoe almost ever

[frigid zealot]

probs will when reap change goes through

[worn yoke]

Since when is accepting being middle of the pack: good ? The ret paladin discord would be ashamed

[smoky vale]

😭

[sullen dove]

but yes during avatar with 7-8 or more targets you should pmuch be hitting tblast or tclap on cooldown

[limpid tide]

Oh

[sullen dove]

while also not overcapping rage

[limpid tide]

I see

[gaunt loom]

so instead of doing 100 + rampage, for 6+ targets do i just use tb and tc?

[sullen dove]

rotation can easily look like ramp > tb > ramp > tb > ramp > tc > bb > tc > ramp

[sullen dove]

you still do the 100+ ramp between tb and tc

both of those are your main focus

if clap is on cooldown and your rage is about half you can hit bb instead

tho just wont be hitting bb as often the more targets you have

[limpid tide]

Empowered BB is a high prio ?

[normal shuttle]

what slayer build is everyone using for ST only fights?

[limpid tide]

Shit does a lot of damage

[sullen dove]

its high on around 5 targets and lower

but much more than that clap simply does too much dam cuz it hits more than 5 targets

bb dmg stops at 5

[limpid tide]

Ah wow

Gotta watch the video

[sullen dove]

wowhead should be good

[limpid tide]

Ty for the info

[normal shuttle]

perf, ty

[sullen dove]

ye idk i assume he talks about that maybe since he did post it himself so i make no claims as to if the information there is outdated or not since vid is 2 weeks old but eh its prolly fine

bro sent it himself yesterday in madox we trust

[limpid tide]

👍

[round kelp]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

[sullen dove]

retweet

[frank harbor]

what's the value of the reputation's trinket in the early season ?

is he strong or not

[sullen dove]

its decent for now but lot of trinks are better and especially after m+ opens out prolly gonna get left behind quick

[snow hollow]

anyone fiddled with the idea of RB build gimping the bladestorm focusing on RB and using BT for keeping the buff up only for RB so u have 30% melee swing now after the 10% aura buff_

[sullen dove]

wouldnt say rep is like a must farm if youre just starting to get it

[snow hollow]

concidering in slayer ST melee is our #3 dps

[sullen dove]

there was someone in here doing something like that

[snow hollow]

30% is conciderble damag eto it

[sullen dove]

its fun to enjoy the game in different ways perhaps

let us cook

lettuce cook

[snow hollow]

you will gimp bladestorm and bt sure

[sullen dove]

and bb

[snow hollow]

gonna trial and error it on dummy

[sullen dove]

game

[limpid tide]

What actually empowers BB

Is it rng

[compact knot]

i was gonna try a more rb intensive build on voracius next week

[sullen dove]

recklessness

[limpid tide]

But only lights up sometimes

[sullen dove]

assume you mean turns bt into bb

[limpid tide]

No like when it lights up

[sullen dove]

as thane it might light up when burst of power procs and you can press 3 bb/bt in a row with no cooldown

tho you dont do that super commonly anyway even if it does proc

[limpid tide]

Oh

[snow flower]

My professional opinion from raid nights this week is that Slayer feels really bad. My group had another fury warrior, and it's genuinely hilarious to see the variability in Sudden Death procs between us in some pulls.

[slow talon]

How big is fury tier set this tier

[limpid tide]

Like 5% max

[young swan]

~3%

[alpine palm]

That's an M0 problem. When health pools are small pulls take less time and so youre taking a smaller sample and thus seeing higher variance in RNG. This RNG will flatten over longer pulls such as in Mythic Raid or high keys

[snow flower]

I understand statistically it is fine. But in-moment experience sucked, which is why I said it feels bad 😄

[echo rapids]

Clap doing as much aoe as thunder blast feels like thane has some of that variance smoothed out

[brittle mauve]

what tier of m+ does hero gear drop?

[snow hollow]

yeah the sudden death proccs feels awful for slayer

its like old frost dk procc shit over again

[echo rapids]

Uhhh +5 or +6?

[brittle mauve]

yeah ok thought so

[valid pulsar]

6

[snow hollow]

somtimes it proccs like a machinegun somtimes it doenst procc for lalmost 7 sec

its not just the rage it grants u its the damage amp on rampage

etc

[echo rapids]

Worth shooting for the 3/6 drops though

[valid pulsar]

true

[wooden scarab]

In single target do we ingnore rb if we have thirst and rampage or do we still press it in rotation

[echo rapids]

RB is right before plain thunder clap at the end of the rotation

Both in and out of cooldowns

Just reading the wowhead priority list here

[robust onyx]

do we play potion or recklessness with mastery or haste?

[valid pulsar]

if you have your champion gear upgraded to 6/6 you can upgrade to 2/6 hero for free. So going +6 for hero items is still fine if you do not have a good group for +10 i guess ?

[echo rapids]

It’s better then nothing

But getting those 3/6 hero is clutch

Not being able to do +10 week 1 is fine

[valid pulsar]

yeah its a 20 crest save per itemslot thats quite a lot

[fading bane]

If you want to minmax crests you dont spend any hero crests on gear that is lower than 266

[snow hollow]

not true at all

that means you are gimping yourself alot and if everyone is thinking like that raids and groups gonna be severly weaker plus aint no way you are gonna have 266

in all slots

[fading bane]

"If you want to minmax"

[snow hollow]

that aint minmaxing really

that is just stuppid becuse you aint getting theoretically that gear

[valid pulsar]

it would be worth only if you actually be able to spam 10s all day and actually get a full set of gear no ?

[fading bane]

Wdym by that?

[snow hollow]

and by the point you have that gear you have a shit ton of crest already since its gonna be week 3-4

[valid pulsar]

which is very unlikely for me at least

[fading bane]

You are doing +10s on day 1

wednesday

Like this is ONLY if you want max value of each crest

[snow hollow]

that is the assumpption its doable

you dont know how blizz have tuned it

[fading bane]

It is objectively a "waste" to spend on lower ilvl hero as you can farm higher ilvl hero from m+

its not an opinion

[snow hollow]

but yeah its possible

[fading bane]

Good players are doing +10s on reset

[gaunt loom]

if i’m starting a fight with no cooldowns, no odyn’s fury, and 0 rage, is bt my top priority? or should i open with tc to apply rend first?

[snow hollow]

prolly

[blissful hound]

+10 will be easier than usual this time

[valid pulsar]

you mean dedicated groups

[blissful hound]

Because we had a heroic week

[fading bane]

Im 259, and +10 is 266

its gonna be megafree

[valid pulsar]

because if you go random m+ no way you will have fun doing 10s

[snow hollow]

are you using RB at all?

[white grove]

quick ST Slayer question, do you just use bladestorm whenever it's up?

[blissful hound]

Always with Reck

[snow hollow]

always with reck as said

[white grove]

even if reck won't be up for a while?

[rare garnet]

mostly, but sometimes you hold

[blissful hound]

The desync should never be that bad

[snow hollow]

however there are issues with witing longer than 5 sec its dps loss

and the cd reductions are fucked up atm

[blissful hound]

AM reduces the cd of Reck so much it cant be that bad

[snow hollow]

so they will be somtimes long diffrence

[grim prism]

is this a tank trinket?

[white grove]

the problem is it doesn't reduce the cooldown of Bstorm

[gaunt loom]

i was just wondering what the top priority ability is when i start a fight with nothing up.

[valid pulsar]

i always have to wait for bs because no reap procs

sd*

[fading bane]

Yes

[snow hollow]

yea

[grim prism]

why on earth did it drop for arms spec?

bountiful map delve

[snow hollow]

and the problem is if its 5sec cd diffrence just use whatever is ready

dont wait

blizz have major fucked up here

[fading bane]

I mean it does dps, but its basically a tank trinket

[valid pulsar]

most of the time its like between 15-30 seconds

[snow hollow]

just like they have with avatar and bladestorm

[rare garnet]

for BS im pretty sure you can wait up to 30s in ST and 10s in AOE, but mostly i just wait till the best add pad

[snow hollow]

its dps loss if you wait more than 5 sec

[echo rapids]

I imagine it depends on fight

[snow hollow]

both of them

[echo rapids]

Like on imperator you know you are gonna have a big add clump at certain times

[snow hollow]

yeah sure like that

yeah

[echo rapids]

Better to sit on BS for 20 second and have it for the aoe

[snow hollow]

im talking mostly low target cleave/st

not waiting on like 4-5+ adds spawning

that gets removed within x sec of your cd

[wheat estuary]

I dont even play arms but it is literally amazing how blizz has just abandoned the spec

there are plenty of people who would do this stuff for free cuz they like the game

[sullen dove]

on st you hold bladestorm if reck is like within 30 seconds of cd left

that good to save it for that long

[wheat estuary]

i genuinely do not understand the dev team at blizz how bad they are

[stray bolt]

I wish I could be a fly on the wall in those class discussion meetings at Blizz HQ

just curious

[rare garnet]

is it really that abandoned?

[rare garnet]

seems like its generally a bit weak but acceptable with many people doing WAY worse than it

even on salad, its not dead last and not too far behind the "low" tier specs

not saying its good, just saying abandoned is a bit much when ele, rogue, and BM exist

[pulsar quest]

Abandoned is definitely the best term for how they have treated it

[rare garnet]

its gotten consistent adjustments, just not the adjustments people want, but it is being adjusted fairly regularly

[pulsar quest]

Not really lol

It doesn't really count as adjustments when you just change the same thing back and forth a few times

[rare garnet]

im just saying, if i woke up as a one trick, i would be much happier to be an arms one trick than a BM or ele one trick

[pulsar quest]

How can you say that with a straight face with how arms is right now

Im literally the biggest arms fan boy for the last 10 years and I wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pole rn

[rare garnet]

you're not a fan if you dont love it at their lows, you think bears fans go, man, even this is too bad, no, never, because they're fans

[pulsar quest]

Entirely different concept not really relatable, I dont play the sport im watching

I have to play the spec every day

[hollow quiver]

what's the point of waiting for 100+ rage during cd to cast 2 rampages? It's for berzerk stacks?

[echo rapids]

Now check normal rankings to see what it will be like in a month when all those adds are dead in seconds

Arms is literally the last spec on like 4 bosses

[rare garnet]

but then we'll be in mythic and adds wont be dead in seconds

[pulsar quest]

Yes but then boss damage actually matters

[echo rapids]

Yeah but now you will really want good ST to beat timers

Vorasius looks like it’s gonna be a tight timer

[vestal tide]

this is boss damage on salad. It will look very similar in m+ on bosses

[rare garnet]

not worst on vor

[hollow quiver]

I think fury is best on 1st boss, 1 boss with small windows with adds, the fact you keep bs and odyn in st makes this boss really good

[smoky turret]

been a warr one trick ever since late SL, it's getting pretty rough

[hollow quiver]

cds align with adds

[smoky turret]

idk how many more lows i can endure

[hollow quiver]

well in early SL during beta it was tough

but they changed after

we were going to be the 1st support class cause Nerco was good and venthyr not so much

war is often weak early and one of the best late expansion

can't be Legion each time sadly

[unborn delta]

solo shuffle queue time: 200 hours
im never getting this cata charge before monday

[echo rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/jordan-stop-it-gif-15830202965985496707

[twin crag]

Question: MT raid build drops defensive for WW.... seems crazy. Whats the best other option

🙂

[unborn delta]

yea its crazy

crazy good

[twin crag]

lol

[unborn delta]

i wish we could drop spell reflect for a talent that gives 1% haste

[hollow quiver]

you're kidding

[echo rapids]

MT is very tanky, and can def stance for even more, along with spell reflect being a great short CD defensive

[hollow quiver]

Spell Reflect is so useful

[echo rapids]

Spell reflect is so good

[twin crag]

Is Def stance off GCD now?

[rare garnet]

I wish we had a Focused Aggressor talent, that removed defensive stance and gigga buffed Berserker Stance on top of that. And another choice talent that is "When enraged, you deal 10% more damage." with the "take 10% less damage"

[hollow quiver]

it was before?

[rare garnet]

remove all my defensives and make me glass

[twin crag]

So people arent running enraged regen? I guess I could look in logs

[hollow quiver]

that's called mastery

[echo rapids]

Bring back death wish

[rare garnet]

Agree

[echo rapids]

Now that’s flavor

[hollow quiver]

I want the old berz stance where you generate more rage taking damages

[twin crag]

Ok seems like wrath and fury is the drop... 3rd best paladin trio boss dmg picks that with enraged regen

Thanks for all the helps guys

[hollow quiver]

and a stance dance between this and battle

[proven stirrup]

sorry, for really annoying question, helping friend. He had just started playing fury warrior, do you craft next week mythic 2hander almost any case?

[echo rapids]

I don’t actually want to stance dance tbh

[hollow quiver]

it was fun

[echo rapids]

It’s almost impossible to go wrong with that

[hollow quiver]

yes

[echo rapids]

I guess you could get back to back myth weapon vaults

[proven stirrup]

thanks

[hollow quiver]

since our bis is last boss of 2d raid, most people won't have it

[echo rapids]

But yeah it’s a very safe and good craft

[subtle nova]

so when killing ?? delve i get 5 myth crests counted to seasonal max. do i get more if i keep killing him?

[smoky turret]

nope

[cerulean kayak]

is this worth to spend 80 hero crests?

[smoky turret]

not really

you get your mythic one next week

[cerulean kayak]

for what do u spend hero crests?

whats the meta

[smoky turret]

save it till you have m+ drops atleast

[sullen dove]

the like meta meta is waiting till you get 3/6 hero from m+

[smoky turret]

plus i dont know why you would need a hero wep now

[sullen dove]

can send sparingly on that

but even better ideally u wait till u get a 1/6 myth item of a slot

have enough heroics to send piece up to 6/6h then save 20 myth crests taking the myth item to 2/6

end goal is saving as many myths as possible

[smoky turret]

the only scenario where you send hero is

[sullen dove]

since they'll be the most rare/most needed

[smoky turret]

you're on an alt that you know you wont play

[undone flower]

Or you have too many hero crests

[sullen dove]

pretty much never allowed to send myth crests on a 1/6 myth item, you really want to have 20 hero crests available to make going to 2/6 myth for free

[smoky turret]

then you just full send to help your split

you can never have too many hero crests

[cerulean kayak]

ye this mechanic makes sense

[sullen dove]

if you end up with like 300 hero crests at some point and no myth gear then sure

send an item or two

[undone flower]

You don’t drop 5 myth piece a week

[smoky turret]

ig if you main m+ then still you wanna send on m+ gear

[sullen dove]

but yea dont send unless its on a 3/6 hero piece which u get from m+ next week and even then dont send all your entire crests

[smoky turret]

but not now is my point

[sullen dove]

save at minimum like 100 or so week by week (if you plan to mythic raid and have the potential of getting more than 1 piece of myth track loot a week)

[undone flower]

My plan : spend everything after each reclear

[rare garnet]

im saving all crests and not spending anything until turbo boost

[sullen dove]

baseg

[rare garnet]

i dont wanna make larias mad

[echo rapids]

I think the larias advice was to send all your 3/6 hero to 4/6 to minimize impact of getting a myth slot item

[sullen dove]

ya that sounds reasonable too

[brittle crow]

am i supposed to have a pocket arms for paladins

[echo rapids]

Thane looks just about as good

Or close I guess

Or maybe it’s not anymore

[undone flower]

You should ask your RL and gquit if you don’t want to do what he says, after telling him you don’t want to and him still insisting

[rare garnet]

i like my idea better

[echo rapids]

It’s the only way to be sure

[rare garnet]

if my RL cares about wasting crests they'll acknowledge im impatient and feed me all the mythic loot so i dont waste

[vast gorge]

managed to kill delve boss ??!

now nexst week should I recraft my sword to mythic asap?

[sullen dove]

nice

[sullen dove]

ya

good boost of myth crests

[vast gorge]

yeah

goiing to stock the mats now then

[vivid pollen]

Man that seems low for a 10% to rampage, 20% to odyns plus huge odyns cdr

[young swan]

OF is a really horrible button on ST

[smoky vale]

good for pad

🙂

[vivid pollen]

It generally still does more damage than any other global though doesn't it?

[young swan]

yeah but it has a 45 second cooldown

[vivid pollen]

But tier reduces that significantly

[young swan]

pretty sure tier takes it to like 25/30

[vivid pollen]

Right, so it's not really a horrible button in ST it's just not responsible for a lot of your damage due to cd

But it's still good to press

[young swan]

its good to press it just doesnt contribute much to breakdown yeah

[vivid pollen]

I'm just trying to wrap my head around it because it feels bad to press on thane and I can't tell why

[young swan]

because it doesnt do damage

enough* damage

[remote haven]

how good is the trinket from voidstorm rep?

[young swan]

it'll tide you over until m+ week

[remote haven]

so not worth chasing any others?

and next week what you guys going for?

bloodmallet shows raid and maisara caverns and i heard the cavern one sucks

[young swan]

kroluks + haste proc from windrunners or the crit proc from the dungeon im forgetting

or can go haste/crit

either is fine

[surreal token]

1024x768 type shit

[sullen dove]

[surreal token]

raw af

I rate it

[sullen dove]

holy chad

i really beans'd vanguard tho

[young swan]

beast mode

[sullen dove]

md came like 5 seconds late

didnt realize that warbreaker would just..

not..

hit them..

been too long since played le arms..

[gleaming marlin]

@sullen dove my goat MT or Slayer for raid?

[winter shoal]

our priests convinced our RL that MD didn't work so me and our other warrior had to shatter 🥀

no wrecking throw for me

[sullen dove]

end them

tell em to kick rocks

[sullen dove]

both

[echo rapids]

Wild how short that fight is for a later boss

[rare garnet]

what a fucking goat

[echo rapids]

Actually I guess it’s not intended to be a nexus king or Mugzee level is it

[sullen dove]

i would assume it should be harder/longer than dragons

just doesnt seem so

but yea 5th boss ish energy

pmuch exactly where soulhunters was

maybe fract

tho soul hunters was a bit long too

[echo rapids]

It’s not really a 2nd to last boss

[white mortar]

Should MH be the strongest weapon per dmg?

Or does it not amtter

For fury warrior (im new to retail)

[sullen dove]

dmg range and dps/stats of weap doesnt matter like that but you want your highest ilvl to be your mainhand always

only real rule

[echo rapids]

Yeah your better weapon should be MH

it’s all normalized

[white mortar]

Alright thanks

[dapper goblet]

arms busted yet again

but people cry

weird..

[sullen dove]

so called busted

good on 1 boss

that mm still clears by 50%

gg

[dapper goblet]

well mm clears everyone by 50%+ on that boss..

[sullen dove]

yea...

very not good arms gameplay from me there anyway

warbreaker didnt hit 2 bosses on pull

prolly not cleavin enough

yoinked talents like 5min prior and got to work

practice for the real shit