fury

[void yoke]

Liquid Armory has it as 4th worst trinket for single target sims, but the Liquid-generated sims (so a real player playing) shows it as like middle of the pack for trinkets. Still way better trinkets out there, but not complete trash

[sullen dove]

uh i would imagine somethin is a little wonky here tho cant exactly tell what

bt seems really high

so does auto attacks tbh

[warm crag]

what is a liquid generated sim

[sullen dove]

are you familiar with simming at all? if you plug your character into quick sim itll show a good general breakdown of how much dmg your spells should do

[warm crag]

wowanalyzer isnt maintained rn from what im seeing

[rare garnet]

Not surprising. Crucible fucking pumps. It’s less than 2% worse than the goat trinket at mythic levels.

[sullen dove]

well that also got nerfed twice lol

but yea

[ionic hamlet]

Yeah, I've been quick simming, but I'm so far off the mark. I know I'm not pressing the correct abilities everytime, but I didn't think I would be that far off

[sullen dove]

this is what i got just simming thane

so bb at minimum should be a lot higher probably

and should be hitting ramp almost twice as much as every other button

[undone flower]

Im curious on wtf is a liquid sim

[sullen dove]

do you find yourself overcapping on rage during cds

at max or close to max rage ramp should be the #1 button you hit

and bb should be almost on cooldown in single target

[warm crag]

this is literally just bloodmallet idk where you got the part of a real player playing from

[sullen dove]

during cds

[ionic hamlet]

Okay, let me try again. I'll pay attention more to my rage

[wheat fulcrum]

guys sorry to interrupt but i've the impression to be dumb as fuck. Now our prio is rampage > bloodthirst > RB ? or Am i triping ?

[sullen dove]

rb is at the very end yes

thats generally right though bit more bells and whistles than just those 3 spells

[winter shoal]

yes what's up

[sullen dove]

got executes/crushing blows/thunderblasts to worry about as thane as well

[warm crag]

do you still do that

[late vapor]

u guys going slayer or MT for dreamrift?

[winter shoal]

yes

[sullen dove]

slayer more ethical and perfectly fine but if your group doesnt have a lot of add dps mt is also ok

[warm crag]

wouldnt you want it to say its maintained

[late vapor]

agreed

[warm crag]

cause it says the last time this was maintained was in 2024

[wheat fulcrum]

I imagine that in tyhane, thunder blast takes prio over rb and probably bloodthirst ?

[winter shoal]

wowanalyzer is up to date for s1 but it probably has bugs because there was a limited amount of ptr logs

[warm crag]

goat

[sullen dove]

yes though in cds when it matters bt turns into bb(bloodbath) and that is usually higher than thunder blast unless you have 2 charges of tb

which can be hard to see sometimes if you arent specifically tracking it

but sent the general order of buttons during cooldowns a few msg's ago here just for st

[winter shoal]

cluegi

[sullen dove]

after thunderblast is either crushing blow or execute idrk which ones better there probably execute

truegi

[warm crag]

oh i just clicked some weird shit that shouldnt exist since no one else maintains that either

[wheat fulcrum]

thanks mate ! and do we gives a shit about optimasing Scent of Blood ? or no care at all just press rampage et bt on cd ?

[sullen dove]

no clue what that is by name but probably not

[warm crag]

agility is pretty bad for us

[sullen dove]

ive been known to be quite agile myself

[warm crag]

runic power also tends to be pretty bad

[undone flower]

Snoredih is good at bending over

[warm crag]

interesting

[sullen dove]

erm

[wheat fulcrum]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=1265355/scent-of-blood

[warm crag]

oh you dont care about this

[sullen dove]

yea i mean you just passively get dmg from that

doesnt rly matter

[wheat fulcrum]

okei okei thanks !

[terse ether]

I got this on hero from Delves map, is it any good?

it sims high obviouysly

https://www.wowhead.com/item=251792/glorious-crusaders-keepsake

[sullen dove]

prolly fine ye

sim should be realistic about what is good

[eternal sundial]

@warm crag frenzy weakaura for nameplate pls

[terse ether]

blood mallet doesnt even have that haha

[winter shoal]

why do you need bloodmallet if you already simmed your char

[warm crag]

ask tmy he knows how to do that

[fiery edge]

does alt get the midnight tour quest?

[sullen dove]

yea you have to finish campaign so talk to soridormi in the inn to skip it

then can get quest off lorthemar in middle

[fiery edge]

the campaign on main right?

[sullen dove]

yea if u already finished on main which presumably you have, you can skip it for alts

[eternal sundial]

@ebon junco frenzy weakaura for nameplate pls

[sullen dove]

but it has to be checked off as complete to get world tour quest for the 4th spark

[fiery edge]

weird

[robust onyx]

do we play puzzlebox? on sims it sucks so bad

[winter shoal]

It's not very good no

[wary falcon]

are you 90?

[sullen dove]

did u already skip? or have yuo not finished campaign?

yea have to be 90 too probably

[winter shoal]

sims undervalue it a bit, but it's still not very good

[fiery edge]

ye like max 3 spark on my alt

[sullen dove]

idk maybe check lorth ig

[wary falcon]

i had that same message before alt was 90

so you are missing some trigger

i guess

[sullen dove]

thank god they got this to me

[halcyon pagoda]

Dang, I looked at my log and a top parse and it had some good general feedback…

[sullen dove]

it sounded like it was updated

spoinkus just lookin at silly wrong thing

[fiery edge]

lol i was on the latest quest without knowing

[smoky vale]

what should i use to host a website

[fiery edge]

now i see it

[smoky vale]

edublogs or wordpress

[calm swallow]

Wait, puzzle box is bad now? PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS TRUE

[wary falcon]

geocities

[warm crag]

i was wrong its maintained

my bad king

[smoky vale]

yes

[calm swallow]

Oh thank God

If I had to do one more season with a 2second cast bar I was gonna lose it

[sullen dove]

insert demolish gif here

[smoky vale]

snoredih

[white grove]

I was comparing this trinket to the Heart of Wind, and assuming your highest secondary happens to be haste, I see no reason to use Heart of Wind over this (at least until the mythic version of it becomes available).

[sullen dove]

it could proc way more

[white grove]

I suspect that as well

because Keepsake seems otherwise better on paper, and its proc lasts longer

[undone flower]

im gonna wait m+

[sullen dove]

just depends on the sim

it should know all that

and spill the real beans on which is better

[smoky vale]

lol

you havent sat a 40m queue before

[warm crag]

you havent won a solo shuffle match before

[sullen dove]

yo whats this scam this delve was bountiful literally yesterday

[undone flower]

no

[sullen dove]

i wanted to do grudge pit

[smoky vale]

my 2400 rating says otherwise

@gleaming siren hi 57

[undone flower]

i tank keys when i have to wait more than 10 seconds

[pine cave]

do i full send my delve keys on t8 delves? or should i be saving them for t11 delves

[winter shoal]

I maintain it, spongie is just a noober. If you find any bugs or questionable recommendations, let me know and I'll take a look

[winter shoal]

It's not bad necessarily, but it's not very good, except maybe on very short fights and/or ones with a lot of padding around the 2:15 mark

[calm swallow]

Good enough for me, I hate that trinket

[winter shoal]

if there's an add spawn or a damage amp around 150/280 seconds such that you get both trinket and ava/reck, it'll be good

otherwise you're probably better off using guidon for an on-use

[calm swallow]

"Here let me pause my rotation to solve a rubix cube real quick, that'll be fun as a warrior"

[echo rapids]

T11 doesn’t do shit until we can get myth crests from them and those are capped

[pine cave]

ya thats what i figured, gota be renown 4 for that right?

[echo rapids]

Yeah

[rare garnet]

Dont t11 give hero crests?

[pine cave]

10 + 5 hero yes

[blazing acorn]

5 hero crests

[rare garnet]

Yeah so still valuable for some people

[echo rapids]

But the cap of 100 this week kind of womp womps that

[rare garnet]

Not everyone full clearing heroic so it’s a source of crests depending on the person

[echo rapids]

Your gonna hit the 200 hero crest cap next week very quickly in m+

[rare garnet]

True

[pine cave]

maybe this week its worth, but by next week with m+ and heroic raid being easier i think the hero crest vs time needed for t11 delve isnt worth

[echo rapids]

But you shouldn’t be spending hero crests yet anyway

[rare garnet]

No but not being capped would feel bad. Need to know I have absolutely nothing left to do

[echo rapids]

lol

[compact siren]

@flat river cook something

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-cook-chef-masterchef-lilb-gif-13910066

[smoky vale]

stop burning the kitchen down

[gleaming siren]

Who let him cook

@compact siren Why do you let him cook

[icy whale]

which crests can i use without hesitation atm?

i guess champion and hero i should keep for now

[frank dawn]

I would say anything champ or lower tbh

[sullen dove]

hero never spend

[frank dawn]

Since champ already has a 400 cap

[sullen dove]

champs you can mostly spend but be a little smart with em

if you want to try for max ilvl gains

like if you plan to kill more heroic bosses that might drop gear for you would maybe avoid sending champs on those slots

but if either full cleared or not worrying about later heroic then just sending em on the biggest stat budget pieces prolly best practice

[icy whale]

yeah, i want to clear heroic, but my gear still looks like frankensteins inventory

[sullen dove]

like helm/chest/legs

[echo rapids]

I think you can send champs

[sullen dove]

ya i mean u could prolly upgrade the helmet and pants for sure

idk if chest is champ or not but if it is then also should be fine

[icy whale]

pants are tier set even

[sullen dove]

maybe one of the two trinkets but if you get a heroic trink off first or 2nd boss then that would be good and save a bunch on the other

or even chim trink

[compact siren]

Some men just want to watch a chef cook

[smoky vale]

[icy whale]

yeah i think ill max the pants since its 3/6 champion and tier set

[smoky vale]

@sullen dove can i go into the kitchen

[sullen dove]

you do what you want pal

[flat river]

@compact siren

here

[icy whale]

and get a cloak, shoulder and rings from m0/delves

[compact siren]

Thank you

[icy whale]

i also have this still

[smoky vale]

where is my rampageless spec

[icy whale]

can run any delve tho, right?

[flat river]

wait sec messed up

[compact siren]

Waiting

[flat river]

here, apex doesn't work without reck so put the extra 3 points into good use

[compact siren]

Thank you

Finally an aoe slayer build with ER

We are eating good

[flat river]

have to take it unfort, otherwise can't take kill or be killed

[compact siren]

A delicious meal

[flat river]

we are not a burst spec

embrace it

we don't need cds

[compact siren]

I like that thunderclap is included

Very optimal

[flat river]

yes for extra damage

to apply rend too

use it then WW

[compact siren]

Yeah

True

[white grove]

no OF? wouldn't the build fall apart as soon as you start getting tier?

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-cook-chef-masterchef-lilb-gif-13910066

[halcyon pagoda]

Thanks for responding. I found the tips helpful keep up the good work. I will pass this site on

[echo rapids]

How long does burst of power last? I’ve been just ripping the bloodthirsts back to back but maybe not optimal

[crystal summit]

Where do you practice execute stage damage ?

Old exp dummies?

[gleaming siren]

@warm crag noobiest of noobs

[echo rapids]

What can I use to set text reminders, like a warning at like 2:30 to hold cooldowns

[vivid pollen]

I don't think that is true, you might be thinking of:

[frigid geyser]

are wowhead talents updated?

we using slayer / bladestorm?

for raid?

[vivid pollen]

if a lightning strike came down on every target that would be wild

[sullen dove]

yea that is the aoe component i mean

well yea

its not full dmg single target lightning on all targets

but lightnings themselves still do uncapped aoe

even if not that much

[vivid pollen]

yea but no extra burst of power chance for example

oh I may have misread your statement

[sullen dove]

naw but burst of power doesnt help you much in like 30 target aoe anyway

i was just saying why thunderblast is still decent better than tclap

[vivid pollen]

I thought you explicitly said multiple strikes came down

[sullen dove]

even if their own dmg are similar ish

strikes are still some extra additional aoe, and each tb is +2 sec avatar which lets you extend how long you can tclap every other global for

[vivid pollen]

yeah, the original question was moot though since TB vs TC is never a choice

you send what you have

I do find it a bit strange that TB doesn't just do more damage though

it did last season I think?

[sullen dove]

yea idk they nerfed it for some unbeknownst reason

[young swan]

yeah, TC got giga buffed at some point during beta

[sullen dove]

and think clap itself also buffed

[young swan]

and TB got nerfed

[sullen dove]

def prefer it this way since dam way more consistent

but think some reversion of that would be in order soon enough

[vivid pollen]

I miss the RNG double damage procs haha

they were stupid fun

[young swan]

a lot of people, including myself, were varying degrees of upset at the time but this is definitely way healthier

[vivid pollen]

I actually find slayer really fun to play this tier as well

[buoyant elm]

slayer fury my beloved

[frank dawn]

slayer is the most fun, even if Thane is still also good

but PTR is taking a giant dump on that, currently

[vivid pollen]

the .05 change to reap the storm seems absolutely awful

[young swan]

yes its very bad

[vivid pollen]

hopefully they revert that dogwater

[red berry]

yeah no idk why they want slayer to be that way

would rather play it personally

[hardy shuttle]

Ive always thought the bis thing for blast would be if the lightning strikes always targeted your primary target. For some more prio

[vivid pollen]

do we know much about the sunwell raid fights? are they add heavy?

I want slayer to be meta 😉

[vivid pollen]

100% agree with this

would be great in pvp too

[sullen dove]

beloren is almost pure st i think

[digital mauve]

it's 5 more cpm in total of 5 more per minute?

[sullen dove]

idk bout the second one but dungeon journal doesnt mention much adds other than some crystals? so idk

[sullen dove]

yea hes hitting 5 more buttons than you every minute

whether thats a tiny haste difference possibly or you may be pausing a bit too often or too much between casts sometimes, small stuff like that can add up

but i think the absolute biggest thing you could easily fix rn is just enchant your gear

[digital mauve]

It surprise me

[sullen dove]

full set of enchants is like literally 10% dps

[echo rapids]

I think the first boss the phoenix is almost all ST

[digital mauve]

Where can I see my apm?

[sullen dove]

both logs you linked were already showing casts

its just at the bottom

65 cpm vs like 59 or something

[hardy shuttle]

Can also just be excessive downtime from mechanics or adhd tanks

[digital mauve]

no for the 5 more cast per minute it surprise me

[hardy shuttle]

Like moving out insta with the puddle drops on nexus king

[sullen dove]

yea you just compare his number to yours

[hardy shuttle]

Thats probably 5 cpm right there. Gotta greed

[echo rapids]

Also just like sitting on nexus and trying to cleave onto orb vs charging out to the orb

[hardy shuttle]

I was way too ethical on my main.

[sullen dove]

it also looks like you didnt damage pot at all?

which is probably significant too

[echo rapids]

5 casts of battle shout?

[sullen dove]

crit be shoutin ig

prolly downtime between intermission to do so and not hurt you much

[echo rapids]

Is that like StarCraft pros who just spam apm to keep the flow

[sullen dove]

maybe hes padding cpm true!

not that much tho

but yea i mean

[echo rapids]

Very ethical to buff battle Rez targets

[blissful hound]

legit helps tho

[sullen dove]

enchant your gear if you got the gold to

will instantly jump a ton

[eternal sundial]

Holy cpm pad on the right

Add some more toys to that

[terse ether]

Does it worth having Rend up on ST?

[sullen dove]

not 100% uptime but you occasionally hit it if you want sure

would hit before you hit raging blow

[quiet geyser]

I really dont see how

[echo rapids]

I mean in their defense, what in that list is pure pad?

[quiet geyser]

If ur not in execute range, or in reck

Slayer just feel awful

[echo rapids]

Every ability in that list has a purpose - 5 battleshout casts is more cpm spam

[tacit bronze]

how do you deal with the ticks on the ?? delve?

the spit they do just completely shreds me

[serene socket]

cooldowns and drums worked for me. shred them before they shred you

[sullen dove]

eh some shockwaving you can try to outrange em

[serene socket]

ilvl 249 thane

[sullen dove]

save cds for em and blow em up with tblasts and stuff

[tacit bronze]

that worked at ? but they have so much hp at ??

[sullen dove]

only like 700k or something

idk should just use ER for them too i guess

i feel like they didnt hurt me that bad

[serene socket]

yeah if ur quick they cant stack u too high

[sullen dove]

are you also playing as tank maybe its similar to tank mech and they do more dmg to you as tank or something

[serene socket]

I changed a few talents to defensive ones and stayed in defensive stance too. not too bad

[sullen dove]

i kinda felt like they did nothing as fury

[tacit bronze]

one spit hit me for 200k as fury

[eternal sundial]

Stance, piercing howl, meld, zerk add 1 cpm

[eternal sundial]

While arguably ethical gcds

It still makes the gap a tiny bit smaller

[potent lintel]

guys what weapon enchants are the go to for fury?

[echo rapids]

Switching stances as a defensive and going back when done, howl for movement speed

The meld though fair lol

The 12 intervenes is interesting

[eternal sundial]

Intervene for uptime is based tbh

[echo rapids]

Yeah for sure

[vivid pollen]

more based is doing it to the tank accidentally

[eternal sundial]

THAT'S A TANK!?!?!?
HE'S A FUCKING GOBLIN????

Legendary Clip

shadowlands is 6 years ago

[echo rapids]

I need to update my charge victory rush macro to have intervene too

[smoky vale]

dumbahh grom

[desert dirge]

Why do I see so many Furies just spamming whirlwind

[smoky vale]

where his cs parry

[eternal sundial]

You play warrior why do you not habe the keybinds

Are yall allergic to shit and alt

Goddamn

(control is fake dont trust it)

[echo rapids]

Zug zug takes all my brain cells

[sullen dove]

o this gives a map too

naise

alt gaming

idk how im gonna do this on my lock tho

unless tank valeera is op

[smoky vale]

i can carry your lil alt gup

[sullen dove]

oyea ig u can 2man

forgor

[austere hearth]

Someone know if you can now loot cata Charge, when you got 4-set on Main?

Or is this Fixed and just for that Charakter

[sullen dove]

i think its only for the main unfortunately

p cringe

but i havent gotten an extra charge on main yet

tho havent done much content on it since getting it

[austere hearth]

Okay

[sullen dove]

well thats pretty cringe and unfortunate just enchanted the champ weapon 20min ago

but w/e doesnt matter till next week ig anyway

hero stats do look a lot better anyway tho..

gg

-20k gold

[young swan]

gg

[smoky vale]

xantage are you cranking

[cobalt sapphire]

What is the optimal way to sim now that there aren't really any single target fights?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046046500578406479/1484529062830542938/image.png?ex=69be8eed&is=69bd3d6d&hm=83495265618a648d33220f781366ec133b1f96756a2bb27e64cc9c1782302c3f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[sullen dove]

simming st still good enough as for fury especially single target gains are almost like 1:1 with aoe gains

but if you like... reaaaally want to try to maximize like as much pad as possible and see which stats are good for that you could try max target minimum time

it might say some things like "drop haste to get more crit and mastery" or something for example

but thats like kinda cringe and unnecessary

[lusty moss]

Is thane really that much better then slayer this tier for raid?

[young swan]

idk man

[cobalt sapphire]

thank you -- this is the extent I'll go

[sullen dove]

yea lot more aoe and timings are good

tho slayer prolly wins out on like 3 out of the 7 bosses so far

[young swan]

the bosses that its better on its better by a LOT

[sullen dove]

2 and a half

actually alleria is also slayer

unless youre a pad chud

so 3 and a half bosses

only 3 id say are like mandatory thane bosses

one is either or

the other 3 are pretty heavy slayer aside from again the most unethical p1 alleria pad

[young swan]

feel like its just dragons and paladins, no?

[sullen dove]

and first boss

but maybe slayer fine there too idk

[young swan]

feel like slayer could work

[sullen dove]

think thane timing just giga

[young swan]

half and half

[sullen dove]

and u can just die on bs rng

[young swan]

yeah thats fair

[vivid pollen]

I can't talk for mythic, but heroic those things died within a bladestorm

slayer giga for that

[sullen dove]

yea slayer is still more than fine on alleria

just the sheer number of adds

constantly have like 5+ targets under every mini boss all the time

thane should do more aoe there

but they barely matter

[red berry]

it gives mythic dawn?

[sullen dove]

hardmode nullaeus does yes

[red berry]

aight gotta do that then thanks

[sullen dove]

its not that hard if you have decent gear like 250+

[vivid pollen]

anyone else miss valorstones?

hehe

[red berry]

as fury?

[sullen dove]

never say those words ever again

yea i did as fury

[red berry]

word

[sullen dove]

just have valeera as heal and make sure you save cds for every add set at every 25% of his hp

[red berry]

valor stone grind sucked ass you pay 20g and you like it

[sullen dove]

using cds on the boss dont matter as much if you can just live

you wanna keep her heal ball thing at 4 stacks which is like a little bit of micromanaging

she spawns 3 every 20-25sec or so

so just pick em up one at a time thats like top prio thing to focus on imo, aside from boss kicks that will also 1shot you

the tank mech barely does anything valeera just like insta clears that

so yea just save heavy defensives and cds for adds if you need to and you should generally stay afloat on the boss normally

the last 25% of the boss hp tho after u kill last add i think he must get some buff or something idk why he randomly starts hurting way more there

so maybe u just sit dstance that entire last section

but otherwise its still p easy

[vivid pollen]

Honestly I just did the whole fight in D stance - everything in there does massive dmg so you are getting like a permanent 30% DR

[sullen dove]

yea i didnt feel in danger that much and knew i could IV if my health ever dipped too much

but also fine to just perma dstance if u want

just take a little longer

[vivid pollen]

also did it as slayer

[smoky vale]

look rank1 alleria

bro did more boss damage as thane

@tame juniper

[sullen dove]

yea i mean thats prolly just good cds on p1 minibosses with highest damage amp

i would say boss damage is gonna be very wonky like that

[vivid pollen]

also maybe some good burst of power rng?

[sullen dove]

unless actual p2 onward boss dam is higher

yea if you get like good bops

hit 3 700k bb's in execute range

gg

[smoky vale]

i didnt look at a log

i just got a dm

[vivid pollen]

I assume you mean 70k

[sullen dove]

no

[vivid pollen]

coz mine aint hitting 700

[sullen dove]

the mobs get a stacking damage amp

[vivid pollen]

oh

[sullen dove]

each little add that blows up on it they take 30% more dmg

[vivid pollen]

which ones

ohhh the p1 ones

[sullen dove]

can easily stack up to 10-15+ times

[smoky vale]

the big 3 guys

[vivid pollen]

that's why my dps was so high LOL

[sullen dove]

ya

and also idk how known this is but if you shoot arrows through them they lose that debuff

so its also actually atrocious to hit adds more than once with arrows

took like 3 pulls to figure out why we were wiping to p1 enrage

there prolly is some arrow gaming you can do

[vivid pollen]

when I did crown on normal I got rank 3

[sullen dove]

like hit the first add you fight with 2nd set of arrows

[vivid pollen]

I am no longer rank 3 lel

[sullen dove]

chadge

[tame juniper]

hey king

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/this-big-blake-shelton-the-voice-arms-wide-open-with-arms-wide-open-gif-23241977

[smoky nacelle]

Was Chuck Norris Thane or Slayer?

[smoky vale]

kebab

[vivid pollen]

Chuck Norris was somehow Colossus as Fury

[sullen dove]

truth nuke

3.5% dps to get 120 more mastery :icant:

holy mast starved

the cape itself only gives 30 and thats 2%

o7

[vivid pollen]

rofl

I'm also down bad on mastery

somehow have a billion crit

[sullen dove]

prolly has a lot to do with the secondary stat pot

not hitting mastery threshold prolly really bad

to have it be the highest

[vivid pollen]

yeah

when do haste and master DR start

[sullen dove]

eh wouldnt say theres offical dr's for stats like that

[echo rapids]

Ohhh I hadn’t thought of that

[red berry]

almost at 40% mastery myself rn

[sullen dove]

but raidbots just kinda makes that rule for you

i think atp general rule of think is haste around 20% mast around 40%

[vivid pollen]

40%??? I am at like 33

kill me

[sullen dove]

but thats just kinda what happens

yea im at 34 now

[quiet geyser]

I think its like 1250-1300ish rating

[sullen dove]

when before was at 30

[vivid pollen]

makes sense that dps goes up 3% then since you are always enraged

[sullen dove]

truth perhaps

lost some verse but verse mid

4.4% verse to 2%

[vivid pollen]

no way is 30 mastery 2.4% though

[sullen dove]

i feel like it is jsut the pot thing

cuz haste is my 2nd highest stat if i dont swap the 2 pieces

[vivid pollen]

my pot might actually be giving me haste instead of mastery

[sullen dove]

and getting a haste pot during lust is probably awful

stacking like 100%+ haste

when you could be having like 80% mastery during lust

thats some insane dr lvls of haste

[wispy thistle]

is anyone getting weird sims were puzzlebox is a downgrade from other trinkets?

[sullen dove]

its not simming as accurately as it should but its still not that good

would maybe use it for aoe/m+ if you want but not in raid

if you have much better alternatives

[quiet geyser]

Haste - Above 1320 rating
Mastery - Above 1380 rating

According to wowhead

[smoky vale]

me when you can sim pots

[sullen dove]

with 2 different pot effects at the same time chuddles? it depends on your own stats

so should be like predetermined in the sim to only run one specific way

like if you have mast as highest stat, that sim should show the pot giving mast, but if haste is your highest stat then the sim should have the pot giving haste

[smoky vale]

fym 2 pot effects

[sullen dove]

which is prolly why theres such a swing for such a small change in stats

cuz by swapping the cape and assuming i have a max rank mastery flask, my highest stat goes from haste to mast

so my pot now gives mast

and during lust and shit thats waaaay better than if it gives haste

ergo 1 item swap worth 2.5% dps

[smoky vale]

holy yap

[sullen dove]

me when i say some goober shit like "me when you can sim pots"

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[sullen dove]

[smoky vale]

[sullen dove]

get on funnel me trinkets

[smoky vale]

did you forget the part yday when i said i had a lab

[sullen dove]

i need this game to stop telling me this trinket is good

actually i do have it on this toon

maybe ill just try it

see how cringe the balls are

[undone flower]

Try it and see how unusable it is

[remote bobcat]

WeLL teChNicaLLy iTS nOt tHE gAmE tELLiNG yOu tHAt

[undone flower]

I tried it

[remote bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/ptsd-war-world-war-soldier-tank-gif-14061449787272226136

[remote bobcat]

isnt that the trink that's drastically underproccing?

[sullen dove]

in game or sim

[remote bobcat]

ing

[sullen dove]

dont tell me it should be doing better than it looks like it is

ok so it is bad

[undone flower]

It’s the loomithar trinket but balls doesn’t move toward you and they are dark green shadow

[sullen dove]

yea

[remote bobcat]

sworbish

im proud of u

[sullen dove]

ty

for what

[remote bobcat]

ur dragons parse

[sullen dove]

o

yea

i wish i had4set

[smoky vale]

chudish

[sullen dove]

prolly could hit all 4 sets in p2

[remote bobcat]

I actually have a good salatbar parse

rank twober

[sullen dove]

i died on vanguard trying to save tank but didnt save tank anyway

[smoky vale]

i just played rps for a worksheet i didnt print iut

[remote bobcat]

I died on vanguard on pull getting melee'd

[sullen dove]

L

[remote bobcat]

yea

[sullen dove]

pulling on 1 er

gg

[remote bobcat]

gg

[modern ore]

guys tell me pls why in guides of wowhead and icy we enchant Mastery/Hast and no Acuity (main stat)? It's sims more good for me

[echo rapids]

Is this what it looks like when your raid kites the orb in cleave range of boss

[modern ore]

on weapon ench

[remote bobcat]

im rank 4 on boss damage

so no im just giga

[echo rapids]

[remote bobcat]

im the highest boss damage mountain thane

on saladbar

[sullen dove]

thane on salad nice

[remote bobcat]

idk u can deadass play thane on every boss so far

[sullen dove]

maybe hit rank 1 if u were idk slayer

[remote bobcat]

and get rank 1

[sullen dove]

ya i mean nature of pad depends on guild mostly

[remote bobcat]

yea

exactly

my guild is full of mfkers where alts during splits still pad like crazy

god damn assholes

lemme pad

grr

[charred garden]

hello , am kinda new to warr actually i re rolled from paladin to warr ...i have couple of questions that confusing me , in mountain furry do we have to have on bloodthirst untill we buff it with scent of blood stack or we have to release it any time its ready even with zero scent of blood stacks ? second question on single target if thunder clap and raging blow available which one does have the periority over the other ?

[remote bobcat]

before anything else, good for choosing a real spec, i hope u delete the paladin

[sullen dove]

never think about scent of blood ever

[echo rapids]

The least ethical pad, shame on them

[sullen dove]

and you probably press thunderclap over rb i think

[remote bobcat]

no

rb > tclap in pure ST

[fickle vector]

I don’t see any resources for a good fury guide for raiding/mythic dungeons, am I missing anything or anyone got a good link?

[remote bobcat]

ramp over 100 > tblast 2 stacks > bt > exe > tblast > rampage natty > rb > tclap filler

[remote bobcat]

#dps-faq has everything u need

or wdym

[echo rapids]

I mean think you just do the ST rotation when on ST and aoe on aoe

[charred garden]

yeah actually when i tried warr , i found that i was locked my self with ret paldin for 5 years without any fun

[echo rapids]

We have cooldowns for every pull

[remote bobcat]

fuck ret paladin disgusting baby spec 🗣️ 🔥 💯

[dim tinsel]

yo

[remote bobcat]

so does ret

[dim tinsel]

I think i found a way to do the skyreach skip really fast

[remote bobcat]

share with the class

pls

[echo rapids]

I just meant in terms of how you play in m+

[dim tinsel]

Wait ill post a video

[sullen dove]

ok 67k sim on alt warrior i think thats adequate for sale

only like 8k behind main

[remote bobcat]

🫴
🫴

[sullen dove]

squid seven

that kinda crazy tho no

8k diff for having stepped 0 ft into raid

[dim tinsel]

I'm not sure if anyone else has found this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0nrrkI2f38

[sullen dove]

that kinda neat

idk if rest of your group can do but cool for u not having to do the annoying wind

[regal marten]

Guys, do we know on thane what is the target cap where TC/TB becomes your main ability on Avatar/Not Avatar? I find not even 7 targets may be worth to prio TC

[forest berry]

hi guys can somebody explain to a noob ( me ) what this maccro is all about ?
/cancelaura whirlwind
/cast rampage

[dim tinsel]

when going rampaging ruin talent rampaging in st is a dps loss when you have the ww buff so you are getting rid of whrilwind so you get an st rampage

[hardy cargo]

its for when talented into rampaging ruin and u are only fighting one guy and need to cancelaura ww so u dont lose dam

[hardy shuttle]

Like 3/4 of the way up the 1st stairs you can leap halfway up the last staircase

[dim tinsel]

so i overengineered

thanks

[hardy shuttle]

I just mash heroic leap while running up, with my mouse like just before the 2nd bird on the last staircase

[waxen yarrow]

any specific raid bosses we should be using slayer for? or is thane best for them all

[random shadow]

1-3 is slayer

Thane for the rest

Could argue slayer for cosmo

[rain glade]

what the fuck? O_O he just oneshot me in tank spec

when he had 12%

[hardy shuttle]

Mine might just end up being slayer the whole way and going for damage to bosses parses.... in an m+ guild so its doomed

[slim pollen]

I just had the same happen as a vengeance DH with both demon spikes and fiery brand up. But at like 1% left ._.

[fast mural]

how long was the fight

that might be the enrage

[slim pollen]

13 min XD

[undone flower]

it is the enrage

[fast mural]

yeah

[undone flower]

you can outrange the tankbuster btw

[slim pollen]

Yeeeeh, I tried that as well towards the end if I didn't have enough stuff left, but he got a bit lazy and didn't want to move much at some points 😂

[quiet geyser]

Just play what you want. Thane for all is fine

[sullen dove]

yea idk why the tank thing does way more dmg to you as tank

honestly thats part of why i think its just easier to do as dps

it hits you for like a 5th of the damage if at all

but valeera insta cleanses the dmg it feels like

just melees are a little more dangerous maybe

[undone flower]

there is no tankbuster if you are dps

[fast mural]

the tank thing doesnt exist as a dps

[sullen dove]

is it not the same cast?

or is it something else

[fast mural]

its just melees as a dps

[undone flower]

no, the imploding strike is only if you are tank

[sullen dove]

it does some cast

that you can reflect

[ashen swallow]

The hardest part of ?? for me was the poison adds at 50%, once I got past those I cleared it in 2 pulls

[sullen dove]

and cant kick

[fast mural]

you cant reflect the tankbuster

[sullen dove]

idk if its exactly called imploding

but something other than the kick

[undone flower]

yes the dot devouring something ?

[slim pollen]

Devour essence

[rain glade]

i get oneshot on 12 min....

[undone flower]

but if you play aleria as heal she dispel it

enrage starts once he is at 25%

[fast mural]

*valeera

[waxen yarrow]

fanks peeps

[sudden tusk]

He enrages sub 25 gotta have a defensive for every big hit

[undone flower]

You can use blood scarred veteran as a defensive

[sudden tusk]

Fury might be easier since I don't think he tank busters non tanks

Valeera healing is actually pretty good

[dapper goblet]

back in wod you could leap from the steps you're on to the other part (unc status)

perhaps it doesnt work now 14 years later

[sudden tusk]

It might tbh

I haven't tested it

[undone flower]

I think the easier is to do it later when big ilvl

You can get the crests with a group

[hardy shuttle]

It does work

[dapper goblet]

victory for the uncs

[hardy shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-pain-harold-harold-pain-hide-meme-gif-7962146957933466373

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-gif-4679601

[dapper goblet]

real

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/gohan-its-so-peak-gohan-crying-gohan-its-so-peak-peak-gif-11211568239007237362

man this first boss rng is kinda annoying

there should be a way to live 5 sets of portals i think

but it depends on where they spawn and i dont think its like.. circumventable by correct portal breaking

unless they spawn in some way based off his position

rough in this pug

like 2% wipe lol

think ill just try full st this guy

[random shadow]

slayer the way to go

just bladestorm the adds

[gilded lava]

Given 9 spots, three in a line means an immediate loss, and one portal added per set, you actually have to make a mistake to die before the fourth portal. I don't think one extra portal is needed when people don't have full normal gear yet

[supple glen]

i am new to retail simmin, 256ilvl puzzlebox currently simming 500 dps lower than withered saptors paw can occur or is a mistake on my end?!

[gilded lava]

It could occur. We don't know the rest of your stats

[fading sky]

Puzzle is not that good either

[supple glen]

fair thanks. just wanted to know if that sounds very wrong

just going off of wowhead :v

[gilded lava]

Wow head bis assumes you have EVERY piece in the list at max level. If you don't, you gotta sim. (To min max at least)

[sullen dove]

yea we're dying on the 5th

but with good rng there should be a way to live the 5th

[supple glen]

i tried seaching bit in discord but trinkets seem to be a bit vague

[gilded lava]

So get more damage ...

[sullen dove]

its just not happening to us

well yea

tanks are also not moving boss well

but week 1 pug wcyd

[gilded lava]

No. Mathematically you can't guarantee that unless the portals are all fixed

[supple glen]

like crucible, apparently is simming wrong, but too high, too low, who knos

[sudden tusk]

Just do a droptomizer in raid

[sullen dove]

exactly its not a guarantee

sometimes it happens sometimse it doesnt

it depends where they spawn

which idk if thats deterministic

[elder mulch]

Does anyone happen to have the DPS sheets?

[sullen dove]

or just random

[gilded lava]

It's a soft enrage. If 4 portals ain't enough then go back to normal.

You're not understanding what I'm saying

[sudden tusk]

Until we can prime our stats from M+ upgrades an upgrade

[sullen dove]

lol

[supple glen]

aight cheers

[gilded lava]

I'm not trying to be mean. But it's easier than trying to draw you a picture

[sullen dove]

that is just a cringe fight tho like imagine in mythic you flip a coin whether you live the 5th set or not and you get an extra 90s to hit the boss

this is the picture

[wise wren]

Im getting pretty bad single target DPS compared to what I sim for on Wowhead. Are you guys prioritizing thunder clap/blast less on single target? Obv rampage always takes priority but im only getting like 40k dps single target

[sullen dove]

if the 4 portals look like this

[gilded lava]

It's not rng the way you think it is. Your tanks are messing up

[sullen dove]

then you live the 5th set

[sudden tusk]

Mythic will probably be static spawns

[supple glen]

not being able to react and having to reply feels bit weird lol

[gilded lava]

Mythic probably will be but I don't think it should

[sullen dove]

but sometimes they spawn as such that an L shape on either of the corners means you cant live the 5th set

like number 1 prio is have middle clear and clear as many of the corners as possible

but sometimes you cant do dat

[gilded lava]

If you never let a portal go to the center. And then you can avoid the four corners. You get more chances. But it's only one more

[sudden tusk]

Normally heroic and normal has RNG

Mythic won't

[gilded lava]

Oh so you did get it. You just want one more chance. It'd be simpler to increase the cool down on the mechanic

[sullen dove]

idk maybe letting a corner live as the first branch of one of the 2 sides works too

[flint wigeon]

I have 250 bracers. Would it be dumb to craft 246 bracers cause of the embellishment? Somehow my feet slot is still 214. Should I craft that to 246 instead

[sullen dove]

like if the portals spawned somewhat in relation to boss itd be fine

yea embellish feet is fine

[flint wigeon]

Which one would u recommend?

Arcanoweve can’t go on there

[sullen dove]

just the blue boots with vet crests to 246

they cant?

think youre picking the wrong boots

[flint wigeon]

Nope

Which ones?

[sullen dove]

if it comes with an effect that counts as an embellishment

and u cant add another

[gilded lava]

One corner is fine. It's the fact that no second corner is safe that'll cause issues

[sullen dove]

should just be called blood-tempered

[flint wigeon]

Oh buddy ty so much ur a life saver

Appreciate it!

[sullen dove]

🫡

[rain glade]

Guys, what skills you pick for valeera heal?

[sullen dove]

idk if mandate is still good but it used to be bis and got nerfed but i still take it

think porcelain blade prolly still just best tho for the other one

20% increased crit at rank 4

[river nimbus]

did it as Mountain thane fury, 2 tries LOL, pretty easy.

[sullen dove]

sounds pretty good

real

gz

[winter shoal]

shit was 100% easier on thane just sitting dstance the whole time

than doing it as prot

[river nimbus]

i didnt even dstance lol

just kept the healing at 4 stacks the entire time

[winter shoal]

yeah probs didn't need it but there's no real dps check innit

[daring juniper]

do we want some kind of breakpoint for haste or?

[winter shoal]

Nope breakpoints aren't real 99% of the time

just do as the sim instructs

[daring juniper]

thanks sir

[humble sleet]

i cant survive the last few %...

[floral anchor]

I feel like the rotation is just so tight. Minimizing mistakes in my opener makes the biggest difference. Single target, I’m only hitting TClap if I HAVE to reset rend or I have nothing else to press. Otherwise it’s Raging Blow. ThunderBlast I will smash at 2 stacks but if it’s one stack I’ll only hit if the only other option is raging blow.

[floral anchor]

Idk if this is the BEST but I did notice an increase when I started doing that

[wise wren]

Appreciate it!

[mental nexus]

Even in the avatar window?

[sullen dove]

ya i mean that just sounds like the correct optimal rotation

psure thats basically whats listed on wowhead guide

tclap apprently lowest prio on single target

[floral anchor]

Well that’s affirming, I get confused reading those

[sullen dove]

outside of ava i would assume

[floral anchor]

Yeah in avatar window I’m not sure if 1 Stakc Blast is better than BB

[sullen dove]

def bb over tblast

with 1 charge

[floral anchor]

I usually go for BB because sitting on them feels

Bad

Okay cool

[glass egret]

Hey i have already crafted 2h weapon and now I just got my 80 Hero crests, is it worth it to recraft it or should i chill and recraft my 2H in next week

[sullen dove]

dont use hero

wait till myth

[floral anchor]

Oh yeahhh Intuitive gaming for the winning

[glass egret]

ok

[floral anchor]

I’m stumped with crafting. I need to refract my sword with the embellishment because I was waiting for price to drop. (Silly me I learned this the hard way) but I just picked up Hero Haste/Mastery bracers. Is it worth just crafting whatever piece I don’t hit in the next couple weeks for second embellishment?

[sullen dove]

can craft any slot at 246 with just vet crests

[floral anchor]

Or do a second weapon?

[sullen dove]

which are free reign

would prolly never craft 2nd weapon

unless itsl ike 4 months into the season and you have 50 sparks

[floral anchor]

Haha right.

[sullen dove]

i made this

but like you can put this on boot or belt or something

doesnt have to be bracer if u have a decent bracer

just whichever your lowest ilvl piece is usually

thats not a main tier slot

[sudden tusk]

Bracer good cloak good

[sullen dove]

yea cape too

[sudden tusk]

First boss drops bracer too

[sullen dove]

truegi

got that on main

actually shit

shouldve considered

was granted it on the grounds of it being like 500 more dps at max ilvl 276 lol

but obv cant equip now

[tawny helm]

what is the reward for tier 11 nullaeus?

[sullen dove]

gg no vets

[floral anchor]

Well very slot is filled with 246 or higher …

[sullen dove]

like 65 hero crests and 35 myth crests

and a map maybe if you havent gotten one this week

[tawny helm]

65 was for tier 8

[sullen dove]

or that was just rng

[tawny helm]

so 11 must be myth

[sullen dove]

yea prolly

[tawny helm]

yeah cuz i done t8 today

[sullen dove]

can just sim whichever slot at that point

[tawny helm]

and got 65

[sullen dove]

or replace which onedoesnt have mast

[tawny helm]

sore so wait, the embellishment on hands is dogshit?

cuz i got them also xd

[sullen dove]

its not ideal but not awful

[floral anchor]

Like from here I’m not sure where to go

[tawny helm]

what 2nd embell we want then?=

[sullen dove]

qjust means cant rly roll on tier hands

[sullen dove]

or you waste the craft

[floral anchor]

Ohhhh okay good idea

[sullen dove]

but also week 1 tier hard anyway

[floral anchor]

I’ll wait till after vault tho

[tawny helm]

well i alr wasted my veterans for the hands craft so

what should be the 2nd embell then?

[floral anchor]

Nooooo!!!

[compact knot]

@tawny helm it's usually better to have embellishments on cloak or wrists because they have the lowest Stat values in the game so when they are lower ilvl you lose less stats

[tawny helm]

well that was long time ago so, 😮

[floral anchor]

Oh this is helpful. Thanks

[floral anchor]

You’ve healed

[compact knot]

But 246 pieces are kinda fake right now so it doesn't matter where you slot it too much

[tawny helm]

what kind of embell we want on it, still arcaneweave lining?

[compact knot]

Just remember to put it in cloak or wrists next week when you find a replacement

[tawny helm]

cuz im 253ilvl atm

[compact knot]

Arcanoweave

[tawny helm]

so same one

[compact knot]

Yes

[tawny helm]

there is no better one than that?

[compact knot]

Hunt on weapon is the best for fury but that is the best non weapon embellishment

[tawny helm]

yeah that 1 i got

need myth crests to recraft my wep :-

[compact knot]

It's the best simming and also buffs friends

So just overall very good

[rain glade]

where i can find this profile of your cooldown manager

[tawny helm]

is 64k st good on sim or shit?

253ilvl

[sullen dove]

should be little better maybe, do you have enchants

[compact knot]

Are you in st spec or aoe spec

[sullen dove]

thats significant

[tawny helm]

lemme check

[sullen dove]

enchants are like 10% dps

[compact knot]

Enchants also big yes

I'm 76k sim dps rn

[sullen dove]

75.8 die

[tawny helm]

got some ench, cuz i feel like i would waste ench on pieces i will change out

[tawny helm]

WOW

usually i am so shit with sims its insane, i just

[compact knot]

I'm closer to 77 now prob

[sullen dove]

yea i mean if u made weapon can def get best weap enchant fo rthat

[tawny helm]

simc, top gear or quick sim?

[compact knot]

Got hero track legs

[sullen dove]

since u wont swap it like the entire patch

[tawny helm]

yeah and i dont know which one

the haste one, or mastery xd

[sullen dove]

acuity safe bet

primary stat rly good rn

or mastery

[compact knot]

Top gear to find best enchants

[tawny helm]

alr first i do top gear with the ench, acuity

[floral anchor]

Anyone using catalyst yet? What’s the best way to navigate it going into second week?

[sudden tusk]

I'm gonna be so huge after my heroic split

Get 4p as fast as possible

[compact knot]

4pc asap

[sudden tusk]

Don't use cata if you can't confirm 4p

[compact knot]

^^^

[sudden tusk]

Never know what slot you will get

[sullen dove]

69% first breath gg

[floral anchor]

Gotcha

[compact knot]

Specced slayer so you lose

Gg

[serene socket]

Anyone here ever experience the GCD swipe animation on action bar icons being innacurate? Sometimes it seems to end earlier than real GCD for me

[sullen dove]

thane is an affront to humanity on this fight

[floral anchor]

Get everyone to buy a rune to use on the boss hahaha

[tawny helm]

thane or slayer here`?

[floral anchor]

Yes and it drives me mad

[serene socket]

okay thank god its not just me then. i downloaded a GCD visualizer bar today and it finally clicked why i sometimes misstime my spells

[compact knot]

Slayer

[floral anchor]

It’s inFURYating

Wwhat GCD trackers

[tawny helm]

@compact knot alr got this number,

on wep enchant it still says berserkers rage

but i got a yellow noti on top saying something with second stat

[winter shoal]

check if the eyes of the eagle ring enchants are better than the mastery ones

[compact knot]

I also have 4pc

[winter shoal]

spooned

[compact knot]

Ur sim is probably pretty good for no 4pc

[river nimbus]

30 hero crests (does not count towards cap)
30 myth crests
mount

[serene socket]

currently using one called "Frogski’s Instant Cast Bar" but thers probably others as well. Puts up a bar that shows GCD cooldown

[tawny helm]

alr trying with this enchant rn

[floral anchor]

Thanks !

[river nimbus]

its a remixed version of critcakes. you can find it on my wago.io (BCDM addon)

[tawny helm]

so, what are we saying about wep ench, stay the same or take the prim stats?

or am i good as it is,

[hallow cipher]

crit sims so high for me as fury...

[compact knot]

It's a good Stat when haste and mastery are both around 800

[compact knot]

I'd just stay the primary one

You might not be using top gear the right way but unsure

[tawny helm]

i clicked in the ench, eyes of the eagle, but the mastery one still stayed

[tawny helm]

hahah yeah thats what i was thinking, so bad with simming

[compact knot]

Top gear is used to compare like every enchant and I feel like your only clicking a couple of them

[tawny helm]

something else i should click in?

[compact knot]

If you can just click all the weapon enchants except vers and same with rings

Idk if you can

If you can't that's fine

[tawny helm]

i could yeah

then run it?

[floral anchor]

@compact knot you have your 4 piece?! Already? Hahahah

What are the numbers like??

[compact knot]

Had ts day 2

[winter shoal]

khazix known rng abuser

[floral anchor]

That’s ACTUALLY insane

[tawny helm]

i could click all of em, just run it now?

[floral anchor]

Gzzzz!

[compact knot]

Yup

[floral anchor]

Did you have to use CAT?

[sullen dove]

chest and leg ench also p strong

[compact knot]

It'll probably say berserker rage or acuity then switch ring enchant to eagle

[tawny helm]

almost done

[compact knot]

Also mark of the worldsoul chest enchant and legging enchant with str and armor

[tawny helm]

this is what i got

basically nothing changed xd

[compact knot]

Makes sense

Go with that then

[floral anchor]

Any know how to view ability timelines on Warcraft logs?

[rare garnet]

im gonna crash out over this fucking transmog system, it wont let me transmog 2h weapons because it thinks i dont have that weapon type equip, im a god damn fury warrior, so its overriding with a fucking legion artifact appearance

[compact knot]

Click casts then timeline

[rare garnet]

they had such a decent system before, its so fucked

[warm crag]

my tmog complaint is that i cannot tmog away my cape

[floral anchor]

Can I do it for logs that are posted on the website tho? That aren’t mine? I can’t see casts as an option

[tawny helm]

@compact knot could it be, that my stats are cooked?

[compact knot]

Probably slightly

[tawny helm]

i got 773 haste and 766 mastery

[compact knot]

But it's fine

[tawny helm]

when i use mastery flask

then with reck pot mastery gets buffed right

[compact knot]

Whatever sim tells u is highest

Is highest

[tawny helm]

so everything is fine yeah?

[compact knot]

I dont use reck potion

I use lights potential

It doesn't matter much rn but next reset it will

[tawny helm]

hmm

so 67.8k bad bad, or decent?

with no set

[native wadi]

Bro is hc week

Stop simming youtself

[sullen dove]

haste being highest might be bad

if thats still the case after mastery flask

[tawny helm]

yeah need to get 11 more mastery somewhere xd

[sullen dove]

your sim might be using max rank mastery tho and idk if you are

that would be the difference i think

[tawny helm]

nah after mastery flask, mastery is biggest

[sullen dove]

o ok den

[tawny helm]

cuz i have 773 haste and 766 mastery

without flasks

[sullen dove]

without flask yea

ok

[tawny helm]

and pots

[compact knot]

Good with no tier

[tawny helm]

kk

[sullen dove]

im about 67k actually

maybe 67.5

just under 251

my alt

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kRg4gReAWFhmw62kKoXCFR

or .8 ig

but also mostly full enchants

[tawny helm]

so did your sim tell you to get ren dorei

enchant

hmm, why does mine tell me to get the haste one :-

[sullen dove]

idk if i actually simmed it on this guy but i just did what my main did

can try the others ig to see

[compact knot]

Different Stat weights

He could have way more haste and mastery

Ect

Or way more crit

[tawny helm]

fair

[pure breach]

What’s the best option for trinkets in terms of m+?

[sullen dove]

ones that give you stats

trinkets off first 2 bosses of raid prolly p good

windrunner haste trinket prolly dece too

puzzle box if you can stand it probably servicable on aoe

[compact knot]

We have a lot of passive Stat trinkets that are good right now

[floral anchor]

Where’s time lines?

[compact knot]

Solo boss raid has best st and aoe trinket for us

[pure breach]

Yeah I was thinking of puzzle, the on from skyreach as well

[compact knot]

Voracius has a very good st and aoe trinket also

[tawny helm]

i got both skyreach one and the heart of wind

missing puzzle

[compact knot]

Skyreach and wind runner both good

[sullen dove]

the one next to it is events which is similar