fury

[compact knot]

but with myth crests its ok

[fiery edge]

Take a huge nap just to see ur aa about to swing

[gleaming marlin]

so just craft regular weapon

gotcha

[bitter palm]

ye just 259

[compact knot]

yup

just spark wep rn

[gleaming marlin]

appreciate yall

ayy khazix if you need league help i gotchu

[compact knot]

i only play aram mayhem

[fiery edge]

Yuge w

[compact knot]

look at this man

ravager is down avatar is up i used colossus smash

and we just arent meleeing

wait

was i hitting a immune boss

bro you cant make this shit up

why are they immune on pull

[random shadow]

they go immune on lust, you have to dispell it

[fiery edge]

Ong

[compact knot]

that is

dumb

[wet pendant]

2 out of 3

not all 3

[hollow gate]

Lightblood doesn't get shield

so you open on them

[wet pendant]

but yes you either mass dispell with priest or wait 8 seconds

[bitter palm]

gwen with scopiest scopier scoped is so peak

i never got all 3 tho

gg

[random shadow]

What would be easier to pug tomorrow hero dream rift or the dragon boss 💀

[compact knot]

dream rift is 100x easier

[random shadow]

Id like my 4th slot

[bitter palm]

colossus arms warrior

[random shadow]

All my pugs has been awful. Lowest pull would be 22

[compact knot]

i like how i pretty much sustained 145k dps the whole pull

big fan of that

[random shadow]

That and it just doesn't feel good

[bitter palm]

show breakdown

[compact knot]

this spec feels so much better with windfury

[random shadow]

Link log

[foggy urchin]

ya i wanna see too

[bitter palm]

ye windfury helps colo a lot

[compact knot]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/B8MRAjLyN4vZt9z2?fight=10&type=damage-done

[sudden tusk]

mass dispell good

[compact knot]

opener was fucked though

[sudden tusk]

you can shattering throw them

but fuck that

[compact knot]

i feel like

[sudden tusk]

priest do your job

[foggy urchin]

holy wtf

[compact knot]

wrecking throw is better

[random shadow]

Ah that. Thought we were talking about rift

[sudden tusk]

wrecking is good for the one add that shields itself

[compact knot]

used wrecking twice and it did 700k damage total

pretty good

[bitter palm]

it owns

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chuni-sleep-gif-20108376

[bitter palm]

fob hs as colo is so dumb

it does 283718372 dmg

[compact knot]

this could have been like 150k

if my opener wasnt so shit

the 4pc is fucking insane also

arms warrior prio

[foggy urchin]

i can't understand just how did you do so much

with nothing out of the ordinary

is arms actually good and we're just bozos?

[compact knot]

look my gear big dog

[bitter palm]

4p for colo is insane

[compact knot]

these are fury stats though

but crit is a bit better then usual on fury so its not awful for colossus

[foggy urchin]

holy gear wtf

[compact knot]

yeah im like 1 of 5 warriors with 4pc

[foggy urchin]

just out of curiosity, you crafted non-crested 2h because u didn't drop any hero weap?

[bitter palm]

i have 30% and mega crit ring from vorasius is simming like crazy

[compact knot]

i crafted non crested 2h because the embellishment on my weapon is gross

its like 60% uptime on 60 secondary stats

[bitter palm]

hunt is cracked

[foggy urchin]

that..kinda sucks a bit

innit?

[compact knot]

not at all

60 is alot rn

[bitter palm]

i mean next week u recraft

[foggy urchin]

60 on secondary Stats, you mean all stats??

[bitter palm]

to myth track

[foggy urchin]

or just 1 stat

[compact knot]

its just 1 stat

[foggy urchin]

yea fair

[bitter palm]

60 of one stat is a lot

[radiant plank]

🥄

[foggy urchin]

its just me not being used to the low numbers

sorry xd

[radiant plank]

Vodka feeding their warrior good

[compact knot]

what happens when you do 4 splits

xdd

[foggy urchin]

yea bro's giga geared

[radiant plank]

Imagine with 7 splits ;))

[compact knot]

honestly

id be downj

if no lfr

[bitter palm]

🍽️

[spare helm]

Propably dump qeustion
But wowhead always says to use rampage only above 100 rage
Why?

[bitter palm]

smoothens out the rotation. if u send whenever its up u can starve and drop enrage

[foggy urchin]

i'm in awe on how my man did so much damage like holy

[spare helm]

Ok than i gotta try to not do that

[foggy urchin]

still im more worried about arms viability in the M+ pool (ya know, ppl see arms as shit tier they dont invite)

[spare helm]

Is there an addon for rage tracking 🤔 like Reck or Avatar

[compact knot]

cd line ups are important

this spec's giga aoe burst is 3 mins

~3 mins

[lofty delta]

the fury guy in that group apparently knows not how to play or didn't pick a hero spec xD

no thunderblast OR bladestorm

[bitter palm]

if they are lazy and aura buff it again its gonna be crazy

[compact knot]

tblast is built into tclap

[bitter palm]

but with the paladins performance i doubt it

[lofty delta]

nevermind, WCL combines them

[lofty delta]

yeah, realised; kinda dumb imo but whatever

[bitter palm]

if cleave was 8t soft cap instead of 5t

hoooly

[pliant berry]

Not to be that guy but im tryna find a fury warrior who isnt brand new to wow looking for a heroic 1 day raiding team (NOT A GUILD) sunday 8-11est dm me

[bitter palm]

why not arms warrior

[foggy urchin]

i can't seem to tell via the log just how do you actually sync your cd's. Mainly because I can't seem to see avatar on timeline.

So do you do like: one cs+avatar window, later a CS window, then cs+avatar window, so on and so forth?
I'm missing the 3min cds part

[bitter palm]

colo legit op if u get to pad

[jovial dagger]

Who's the colo arms warrior 1?

[compact knot]

ravager doesnt have cdr while avatar does, this leads to you having to send your 2nd ravager without avatar because it wont line up, but at the 3 min mark avatar + ravager both line up

[bitter palm]

walhe colo arms goat

[foggy urchin]

OH that's right I forgor about ravager mb G

u da goat

[jovial dagger]

[compact knot]

ravager very important

[pliant berry]

Easier to raid lead someone when youve played their spec as ur main for 5 years (i can assist people rather then benching)

[bitter palm]

top 2 padder right behind loboz

[compact knot]

strong cd but cringe

loboz build in df

[foggy urchin]

i mean its drop and forget

[compact knot]

was still the meta btw

and u cant convince me otherwise

[bitter palm]

i played it was goated

i was kinda lost with the 7 cds that build had

u had troar spear of reck ava ravager or w/e

[compact knot]

it is drop and forget but lining up with cds is extremely important

[bitter palm]

fury didnt have bladestorm right

[foggy urchin]

ye fair my man, cheers for explanation

[compact knot]

oh it was

tww

[bitter palm]

gg

[compact knot]

the s2 build i think

idk

why i said df

[bitter palm]

s3 df tindral sageswift r1 loboz

(gray parse boss damage)

[compact knot]

when odyns was good

[blissful hound]

Tbh Odyns doesnt feel that bad atm

[bitter palm]

why doesnt it give ww stacks

its so dumb

[compact knot]

yeah

[blissful hound]

ye thats dumb

[compact knot]

odyns owns

[bitter palm]

make sd cast cleave/ww

[blissful hound]

I was dead on dragons on NM for like a minute and still was 3rd in damage in raid

With a 85 parse lmao

[compact knot]

this was my heroic dragon

somehow only rank 4

the 3 above me padded harder

r1 boss damage all that matters

[bitter palm]

3 loboz splits

goat

should make a L O B O Z video fuck execute

cautex should make a video on loboz

ball knowledge

@radiant plank gonna do ?? as colo

adds are the only kinda hard part anyway

[blissful hound]

Is Loboz someone special or something

[bitter palm]

the goat

top 1 padder oat

no one comes even close

maybe tmy

[blissful hound]

I only know him because hes a good friend of a guildie

[compact knot]

i think if i mythic raided at the same level he did i would have been close

[jovial dagger]

Never too late brother

[compact knot]

i was playing 3 min cd trinkets to pad on fights in amirdrassil

[radiant plank]

Holy

[bitter palm]

did u play ashes of embersoul spiteful serenity on smolderon

[radiant plank]

Might need tier for that

[bitter palm]

maybe

[compact knot]

i didnt get the tank trinket

we stopped killing that boss

lmao

[bitter palm]

stance mastery should keep me alive i think

sit in dstance on boss

go battle stance and pop all cds on adds

prob gonna take more time than prot cause u do even less boss damage

[compact knot]

i killed it a 2nd time to see if it gave more myth crests

it does not

but

[bitter palm]

fabled vanquisher of nulleus

ass title

like all hof titles

[compact knot]

i like the mount

[bitter palm]

gg

ye mount is cool ig

[blissful hound]

Sagenumwobener Bezwinger von Nullaeus

I dont mind the title, could be worse, could be better

Mount is aight

[radiant plank]

Truth, Fury Slayer has insane AoE right now. You can spam WW for a 15 percent chance for Reap the Storm.... I remember when even triggering Reap the Storm EVERY bloodthirst in nearly full Mythic last season still put me behind my Ret who was 20 ilvl under my Warrior by about 10 mil a second because the best Fury could aim for was 15-17m dps on a pull. So then the other day they nerfed it harder and now Thane does roughly the same single target and way better AoE so Slayer gets to be dead and slow as shit because they nerfed Rage generation so that the Apex Talent wouldn't be too strong as it is based off of spamming Rampage which at our old rate would have been decent but at this rate is good for 12 seconds of burst and then quickly falls apart because gee whiz when you nerf the AoE on a class with a hard cap of 5 targets it fucking sucks even with a 9-15 percent damage buff that lasts 12 seconds. Good thing none of the raid fights are cleave and good thing M+ has no cleave in it or the nerf would hurt.

[bitter palm]

Truth, Fury Slayer has insane AoE right now. You can spam WW for a 15 percent chance for Reap the Storm.... I remember when even triggering Reap the Storm EVERY bloodthirst in nearly full Mythic last season still put me behind my Ret who was 20 ilvl under my Warrior by about 10 mil a second because the best Fury could aim for was 15-17m dps on a pull. So then the other day they nerfed it harder and now Thane does roughly the same single target and way better AoE so Slayer gets to be dead and slow as shit because they nerfed Rage generation so that the Apex Talent wouldn't be too strong as it is based off of spamming Rampage which at our old rate would have been decent but at this rate is good for 12 seconds of burst and then quickly falls apart because gee whiz when you nerf the AoE on a class with a hard cap of 5 targets it fucking sucks even with a 9-15 percent damage buff that lasts 12 seconds. Good thing none of the raid fights are cleave and good thing M+ has no cleave in it or the nerf would hurt.

[round quartz]

I like Shadowlands fury a lot better than what we have now

[compact knot]

idk i think right now is a pretty good state

they somehow fixed a couple of issues that i didnt think they would fix

[blissful hound]

How else would they take something good from us

[compact knot]

but they ruin a lot of it

in the .5 patch

so not all is good

they reverted the cringe frost mage shit in .5 though so if we push hard enough maybe they listen

but idk they dont seem to listen to what we want

[spare helm]

Whats a good enrage uptime?

[compact knot]

random bull shit go

[compact knot]

idk 100%

[spare helm]

Im around 93-96% ish

[blissful hound]

You should be close to 100%

[compact knot]

depends on boss fight

this is my voracius which is kinda a pure st boss fight

[radiant plank]

go comment a few more times on the ptr warrior thread

[winter axle]

God damn I suck at Fury. I don't really get hwat I'm doing wrong lol

[willow heath]

Guys after doing some heroic my average is 12.0 on warcraft logs, tbh i dont understand how you do so much damage tbh

[blissful hound]

Fury is just hardcore padding most of the time

[willow heath]

specced war to help my guild to have war buff but wow it's so hard

[radiant plank]

Copy what this khazix guy does

[winter axle]

I prio Bloodbath>rampage>execute>bloodthirst>raging>ww and use my cooldowns every time they are up and I'm still not getting anywhere close to my sims

[radiant plank]

he seems decent

[compact knot]

the best practice is hitting a target dummy for 30 mins every day until your satisfied

[blissful hound]

^

[compact knot]

i do it before raid even now

even though im like goated no glaze

[blissful hound]

Youre giga goated

[radiant plank]

no glaze

[willow heath]

doing my best to spam w e is up and after wowanalayze apparently i m casting only 70% of time

[blissful hound]

Well yeah thats the biggest issue for sure

[spare helm]

Im at 95.78 on first boss
I did jump around to adds to help cleave em
Guess i gotta keep my rage a bit more in check

[compact knot]

ill sit before raid and hit target dummys for 20 mins until i feel locked in, when i play a new spec i will sit at the target dummys tabbing between the rotation page and ingame just practicing

[radiant plank]

underrated warmup method

[winter axle]

I should be doing like 60k dps and I do like 40k dps.. I'm missing something huge but I can't figure out what

[radiant plank]

makes or breaks my raidnights

[frank crystal]

Saw someone with a 2 hand crafted weapon and crafted wrists , how can you do that ?

[willow heath]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/PTv3YAnLJr7zZawH/41-Heroic+Fallen-King+Salhadaar+-+Kill+(7:23)/778-Evalfie/standard

Is there any hope for improvement ?

[compact knot]

i see a big issue

already

[willow heath]

please tell me

[compact knot]

stop desyncing bladestorm and recklessness

please

this gets better the better you become at not wasting gcds and rage

[blissful hound]

Theres always hope as long as youre willing to improve

[willow heath]

should i wait to use both at same time ?

[compact knot]

but just always hold bladestorm for recklessness

[compact knot]

yes

[willow heath]

ok good to know ty

[compact knot]

how do i find the actual log on this site

i feel uncomfortable looking at it

[radiant plank]

Wowhead guide covers that

[compact knot]

ok a timeline exists

[willow heath]

huhhh sorry ill find the logs

[bleak saffron]

blue craft with vet crests

[willow heath]

ty for taking the time

[compact knot]

nah this is good actually

this timeline is much easier to look at

[winter axle]

I am almost okay at hitting a dummy, but when I get into raid my brain turns off

[blissful hound]

Sounds like you just need some practice

[compact knot]

@willow heath the far away biggest issue is you seem to get lost when a boss moves, you are losing a crazy amount of uptime during movement and that is a massive dps loss

you have upwards of 5 seconds of no button pushes

[winter axle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BJHqMYKPcmjD3pR6?fight=1&type=damage-done&source=19

[compact knot]

7 seconds and we have 2 button pushes is pretty bad for damage on a tempo spec like fury

[willow heath]

Yeah sometime i find myself turning my back on the boss ;_;

[compact knot]

you also overcap rage a lot

[willow heath]

I play with the option that auto focus your camera

[compact knot]

overcapping during bladestorm is normal, overcapping outside of bladestorm is very bad

[willow heath]

without it it's like a lot to handle

[compact knot]

625 rage wasted is not great

[winter axle]

Do me next 😄

[willow heath]

damn and i lost enrage uptime at some point

will try to focus on these point ty khazix

hope to make this discord proud guys

[compact knot]

@winter axle first thing i notice instantly is opener is kinda wrong

[willow heath]

I imagine you all zoomer having redbull for breakfast and monster for brunch

[compact knot]

i only drink mt dew and water

acidic slop

[winter axle]

hell yeah

[compact knot]

1 sec

am looking at more things

[willow heath]

had to ask for a break after my fingers were hurting so much haha

[compact knot]

then will type a big message

[eternal sundial]

How does that even work

[winter axle]

So full disclosure, I'm a prot main that was forced to DPS and I'm trying my best to learn so I appreciate all input

[eternal sundial]

Can u not just left click move the camera

Never had it enabled

[willow heath]

when you move camera it move again to your character level like

[eternal sundial]

Oh it's the setting u need to turn off on ur alts

[willow heath]

yeah but when i move the camera i cant like follow it correctly ?

[eternal sundial]

It's a matter of getting used to it i guess

But for me uptime got better when i had my binds in a clickable position while holding W

(or left + rightclick to move)

Which is what i ended up doing most of the time

[willow heath]

any cool macro btw to reduce the numbers of keys ?

[ionic hamlet]

Still trying to get a better understanding of our prio.

So after this opener, in general Bloodbath during cooldowns is more prio than Rampage?

[willow heath]

Only have the buffs one

isnt this the icon of rampage ?

you just have a lot of fury after odyn

and during recklessness rampage cost less so yeah you can do 2 rampage here no ?

and 2 rampages cap the talent which boost bloodbath

[compact knot]

is the slayer opener on wowhead wrong or am i crazy

[ionic hamlet]

I don't know why, but I've been having a weird habit of pressing Rampage so much more than Bloodbath/Bloodthirst

[sullen dove]

ramp usually higher than bb

[compact knot]

is odyns before bladestorm not just better

it has odyns after bladestorm

[sullen dove]

its prolly semi irrelevant

but after bs you'll have bloodborne up

20% bleed dmg

which applies to about half of odyns dmg

so might as well

doubt you lose a significant use by holding for 5ish seconds

[compact knot]

ic

makes sense

[sullen dove]

just so long as its up for adds and stuff

[compact knot]

yeah prob fight dependant

@winter axle you are sending bladestorm before recklessness which is bad

also filling with whirlwind instead of rend when you have empty gcds

rend is a much better filler when you have noting else to push

you also love pushing wrecking throw in recklessness, please stop, it is not a high prio button during reck

however if you have noting else to push wrecking throw isnt a bad one

but that should almost never happen during reck

this spec is very bloodthirst favored and you seem to have times where you skip a gcd to push raging blow instead of bloodthirst, you wanna try to keep that button off cd and the only 2 higher prio buttons are execute and rampage

ok yeah by far the biggest issue though is that you are using bladestorm AND odyns before recklessness

it should be flipped, recklessness first, (make sure your enraged) then bladestorm and odyns w/e its up really

[sullen dove]

most dont have 4set yet so not exactly relevant but eventually you will just be sending at least 1 odyns nowhere near reck and its not that insane of a button to like super focus on making sure its in reck i dont think unless youre timing it to explode some adds, but yea bladestorm is def large for st

its own dmg buffed by 20% crit in addition to unhinged proccing 4 bb's instead of bts is already girthy

[compact knot]

its around 45 seconds left on bladestorm and reck you send a random odyns

[quartz musk]

hey guys i haven't had much time to watch how things are with Fury. can someone tell me how we are doing now? regarding aoe and ST. thanks a lot guys.

[sullen dove]

aoe very good st okish

[compact knot]

pure st is rough

but its ok because not a lot of those exist

[honest trail]

Both fine

[quartz musk]

Oh thanks guys…and our tier set is good or not?

[compact knot]

extremely good in this raid

probably one of the best

with all the little shitter aoe mobs that spawn

[sullen dove]

yea i mean think its prolly most relevant on dragons

you prolly hit most of the other add timings even natty

but there is one point on dragons it spawns 4 sets in like 2 min

maybe u can get enough cdr to odyns all 4 that would be cool

[compact knot]

it effectively just halfs the cd on odyns

[sullen dove]

i wish i got it b4 we killed today

[compact knot]

which i think is cool

[sullen dove]

yknow what tho 4set gonna feel rly good on p1 alleria

just the constant tiny baby adds

double the odyns on them prolly gonna be preeeetty cooool

[blissful hound]

The baby adds will be removed from logs soon-ish Im sure

[sullen dove]

do not say such heresy

they are as important to the fight as the 500% damage taken increase bosses

what if we just have an unholy pop cds with max damage amp is that a real log

think could easily pad some egregious dps number

like 500k ending of p1 lol

highest ive gotten in my attempts today was like 220k ish and seen a spriest end at 250k+

do not take this from us blizzard

[alpine palm]

you normally have good takes, but I don't understand how maximizing boss damage can be construed as padding

[honest trail]

Padding is fun but usually bad for prog

[vague copper]

Well we can pad gigantic on some adds that die in a sec or 2 anyway bye sit on our cd and blow it there instead of on the boss.

So last on boss but top overall 🙂

On mythic that might be a thing tho.

[blissful hound]

For prog you can easily argue that we should do the aoe and others can go full ST because we dont lose anything

[vague copper]

True

[blissful hound]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

On all bosses with on yesterdays right I was in the same group as our other warrior and it felt so overkill

Like on chimaerus its...kind of a waste

[potent thicket]

wait fr? good to know i have 80

[sullen dove]

I mean it prolly still kills the boss but like pad in the sense of extremely boost someone’s dps that otherwise wouldn’t happen under normal circumstances

idk if there’s an upper limit on the number of stacks those mobs can get but imagine no one ever touches one of the 3 mobs and you have a few dps/dks constantly gripping adds in and killing em without doing too much dmg to the main guy and lets say you can stack up 30 stacks of the debuff so the mob now takes 900% more damage

then you have 1 person pop cooldowns on it and they do multiple hundreds of thousands of dps

something like that is probably possible and I’m sure someone eventually is gonna be degenerate enough to do so

it’s not the exact same padding on adds per se as it still is a more important target but it certainly could pad someone’s log to have them perform much higher than the average expectation/“normal play” and if you look at wcl and see “wow this guy did 100k more dps than me overall how’d he do that” it’s just the same kind of silliness as being the only one who attacks a massive group of adds

But imo I think being able to take advantage of that mid fight is good and cool and partially skillful but it’s when you have your entire raid actively participate to boost 1 persons log

such as the famous 75 pi fury warrior in sepulcher

was like 20% higher dps than the next best absolute top log on every boss and I think that was the starting point for them invalidating logs with too many externals, shockingly hadn’t been abused to that degree before then this guy just had 5-6 priests permanently rotating pi’s on him for almost 100% uptime and they counted as real logs for a while lol

[analog matrix]

Ye you can craft without crests to 259 and next id recraft with mythic crests

[muted carbon]

is cricible of erratic energies trinket a sim bait trap? or is it actually that good in single target

[radiant plank]

good

[cedar crescent]

Why is the fury guide recommending the Blood Knight one? The forest one give 115 stamina compared to the 41 armor? Or do we have something that give damage based on armor?

[cedar crescent]

Ah, thanks, but is not the 115 stam like pretty big compared to the small dps increase

[worn rain]

true, that's why both are listed

[cedar crescent]

Ait, thanks

[calm dock]

just me or is the fury set bonuses kinda...shit

[digital mauve]

You guys think Thane gonna get nerfed ? Or fury in general ?

[analog matrix]

Guys i don’t really when to press puzzle trinket , do I press Charge > Puzzle then odyns and then normal prio?

[median cypress]

any1 know how long it takes to level the delve journey to 4?

[calm dock]

i mean we already know slayer is getting nerfed next major patch no?

[dense elbow]

First time?

Yeah, it is kinda low end on the power scale, but it is supposed to be as much. It does quite a bit of burst AoE value tho (in the cases it helps you line up OF better than without)

[calm dock]

idk ive just been playing thane much more fun havent touched slayer in a bit

[dense elbow]

Not sure what Slayer and Thane got to do with the tierset

[calm dock]

ah right sry wrong convo

[dense elbow]

[calm dock]

sry in a dungeon

[jagged socket]

its meh for both 👍

tier set that is

[dense elbow]

Yep, yep

[vague stump]

tier set will be better the slower the mobs die atm for dungeon odyns is weird as everything is dieing omega fast

I am more concerned that PTR changes werent changed. lets fucking hope we dont have slayer reap whirlwind a thing in .5

[deft palm]

fury is broken in the raid

damn

[potent thicket]

wdym

[dense elbow]

But OF is at its best as scuffed value when mobs die fast

[calm dock]

i imagine slayer just kinda wont be played if for nothing else than playing like ass

[hearty geyser]

Furry new meta now

Imagine this huge dps in 12 key next week

[calm dock]

btw is it worth upgrading champ gear into tierset with the changes to getting sparks

?

or just wait for hero pieces

[hearty geyser]

Wait for next week

[wild mural]

Real

[jagged socket]

it's such a shame to go from how fun it felt comparatively last season to now

even if it was mostly raging blow spam

[hearty geyser]

Ragin blow spam 😭😭😭❤️

[worn rain]

next patch it will be ww spam

[dense elbow]

Imagine when m+ comes out, and the builds that got build up before they DPS get to pump

This is our strongest week, low health targets, we got no build up

[somber thicket]

Slayer skyreach overal

[dense elbow]

Kinda low dps, guess 230-240 group?

[somber thicket]

Im 254 so im that bad^^ well pulls not great

[dense elbow]

Yeah, pulls in sky is kinda wonky, especially as melee and the knocka all the time

[somber thicket]

Wanna check slayer. Prob thane would do more

[dense elbow]

Slayer BS is a lot of value this week tho, as adds die inside of it

[tall kayak]

For M+ Slayer or Mountain Thane ?

[dense elbow]

Either or, Thane prob the optimal choice

[mossy fox]

damn thats tank dps

[native wadi]

I do same as tank than dps

Tank scales bonkers as well xD

[remote bobcat]

please tell these three baby players to reroll

[native wadi]

I tanked a few yesterday and I was shocked

[blissful hound]

prot owns

[remote bobcat]

prot is the only good feeling spec warr has rn

[tardy lark]

thane is ok

[blissful hound]

Fury feels pretty good too imo

[tardy lark]

slayer is an atrocity

[remote bobcat]

slayer is awful, colossus is awful

thane is ait

[blissful hound]

I dislike Thane for the endless ressources at times but otherwise its nice

[plush maple]

Why is slayer awful?

[mossy fox]

thane fury rolls dungeons

this was on reset day at like 249 ilvl

[subtle lagoon]

my steak is too juicy and my lobster is too buttery

[blissful hound]

Bad comparison

[remote bobcat]

duuuude how do people get even higher ilvl than this

my guildie has like 258

and im like

how

[mossy fox]

im also 257 rn but 0 tier pieces

[old latch]

for M+ is hunt embellishment the best too ?

[subtle lagoon]

I'm still using 2 adventurer rings 🙂

[tardy lark]

you are straight up pressing rend instead of raging blow, reap the storm was nerfed on top of proc rate getting nerfed and bladestorm does 0 damage

[plush maple]

Nah man fuck that

[tardy lark]

slayer just feels horrid to play and arms slayer is even worse in that regard

[mossy fox]

just wait until 12.0.5

[tardy lark]

yeah im prolly playing warrior for prog and then letting it rot till 12.1

[plush maple]

I’m waiting for a sale on Midnight so hopefully 12.0.5 by then

If that’s when WW starts casting rend or some shit

[mossy fox]

they're gonna have to crank the tuning like crazy for slayer for it to be good again after those 12.0.5 changes

like thats so much dps lost

it prolly wont happen and will be left to rot

[tardy lark]

im starting to feel like the guy that banged the devs wife also plays fury and not just arms

[plush maple]

How much dps loss is it to not talent rend and press RB instead

On enemies that don’t live for many minutes

[summer quail]

on st less than 1%. on aoe it's pretty big unfortunately

[plush maple]

Oh well

[remote bobcat]

0.6

%

[chilly sapphire]

Need that UH attention, getting sweeping changes after any outcry~

[tardy lark]

you stil have wrecking throw

xdd

[plush maple]

Instead of closing Discord would be funny to collectively stop using Rend completely as a fuck you to blizz

[tardy lark]

@mossy fox "I am disappointed" when

[subtle lagoon]

would be funnier when they just don't care

[summer quail]

i mean clearly blizzard knows we don't like pressing it which is why they are adding it to whirlwind. it's just they add a bunch of other really really garbage changes at the same time

[chilly sapphire]

Fury the bleed spec.

[tardy lark]

if the bleed then at least had some synergy it could be argued for

[pallid barn]

i mean if you hate pressing rend so much just play thane, the st diff is non existant and aoe is better

[tardy lark]

but rend is just higher DPE so therefore you press it

[somber elk]

guys when do we shut down discord?

[deft palm]

top 5

[potent thicket]

hm

well skill issue from me then, gotta grind harder

[summer quail]

don't worry it prob won't last. no tier pieces, no mythic.

[digital mauve]

Guys I've got my log on Chimaerus HM, I've compared them to @mossy fox but I dont understand why I'm so low

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fTMzDbCtJAZ3wgPk?fight=1&type=casts&source=22

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/v2z8WNMnkZRwFB1t?fight=4&type=casts&source=5

[tardy lark]

and then the classic happens where fury gets nerfed cause small adds die insta on hc and we are now trash for mythic

[mossy fox]

i am always in a state of disappointment now

[mossy fox]

i just press buttons

[summer quail]

you should copy his stats and ask him about breakpoints

[digital mauve]

Can you check real quick and tell me what's wrong plz ?

[mossy fox]

No

[deft palm]

do we even go slayer for these raids?

[summer quail]

[tardy lark]

brother, they kill the boss 2½ minutes faster than you guys

ok i lied

2 mins

[summer quail]

hahah koser meg mye nå crit

[digital mauve]

Hows that affect my individual score ?

[pallid barn]

someone explain to him

[digital mauve]

I wanna know IF I'm doing something wrong

[tardy lark]

shorter fight time = more percentage of total time in bloodlust for example

[humble sleet]

Guys how much % crit do we need? Or should I just care about haste/mastery?

[tardy lark]

less intermissions where the idiot flies around

[mossy fox]

[digital mauve]

Ok got it but what about My profile both in damage and APM?

Not pressing enough buttons ? Not the one I should be ? Not padding enough or taking too much damage ?https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/v2z8WNMnkZRwFB1t?fight=4&type=casts&source=5

[pallid barn]

there is a help and log review section btw, ask there

[digital mauve]

Ok ty

[frozen obsidian]

is it worth it to craft a weapon with hero crest thisweek ?

[jovial dagger]

(i did that)

[chilly sapphire]

If you're aiming to pug week 1 curve, sure.

[fading bane]

If you will be able to cap Myth crests next week, then Hero craft this week is a waste

[jovial dagger]

if its 100 myth next week as it was hero this , its fine

[frozen obsidian]

Okej, so basically it aint that big of a difference at the end of the day ?

[summer quail]

it is a big difference. you're wasting a bunch of hero crests for no reason if you craft with them now

[burnt crow]

save those wait for myth crests its a waste

[frozen obsidian]

and if I save it is stilol smart to craft a 259 weap with me sparks now ?

[pallid barn]

if you craft with hero crests ur kinda trolling but you do you

[burnt crow]

craft with sparks not crests

[frozen obsidian]

and it dosent matter if it is a 2handed axe, sword or a poloarm ?

[tardy lark]

they are all normalized, so whichever you prefer the look of, if any

[hollow quiver]

though the hero crests you got this week are out of the cap

[frozen obsidian]

thanks for ur tips

[tardy lark]

and a spear behind it

[potent thicket]

why's that ?

sorry i'm behind

[summer quail]

right so you spend your 80 hero crests on a weapon that you will then spend 80 myth crests on. now what was the point of those 80 hero crests? you just piss them out the window

[cerulean junco]

how does the raidbot drop itemized work lmao? it's showing a DPS drop for some of my BIS gear...

[potent thicket]

makes sense, thanks, imma save them then, not spend em

[blissful hound]

Because BiS gear doesnt really exist

The lists you see on sites is basically just the highest simming combination of items and getting all of them is fairly unrealistic

And only under exactly these circumstances theyre truly bis

If it wasnt for players asking for bis lists constantly they wouldnt exist at all

[cerulean junco]

fairpoint, but its showing a dps loss for set pieces - its hard to believe its not a sim error

[blissful hound]

Are you using droptimizer?

Or top gear

[cerulean junco]

drop itemizer

[blissful hound]

Im not sure if droptimizer combines set pieces for bonuses

I dont think it does?

2p alone was +3k for me

[radiant plank]

it only works ifu already got some pieces on

like if u sim with 1p it wil show 2p as a gain

if u sim 0p

it will sim the separate items all as 1pc

need to add youritems to topgear

[cerulean junco]

i c

[fossil grove]

looking at logs, it seems to me that thunder clap is a better button than thunder blast when hitting many targets. I'm sure I'm missing something?

[lament lagoon]

Shoudl higher ilvl go in MH

i forget Retil rules

retail*

[vivid pollen]

TC does more raw damage than TB, yes, but doesn't have any of the interactions with anything else like guaranteed lightning bolt which can proc your bloodthirst

in either case, I think TC/TB is your highest priority in 8+ targets (assuming you have enrage)

[fossil grove]

it seems to me Flashing Skies only procs lightning strike on 1 target per thunder blast. is that correct?

[vivid pollen]

That is correct

[civic hemlock]

Is Algeth'ar Puzzle Box really that good? Raidbots sims it worse than a lot of other trinkets when I check top gear

[fossil grove]

what other interaction would make thunder blast better then, on like 30 targets for example?

[candid sorrel]

It'd only ever be good for opening burst

[civic hemlock]

Thanks. So really not that great of an option.

[vivid pollen]

aside from the fact that you literally cannot cast thunder clap if you have a TB charge, at 30 targets TC is probably just better

[civic hemlock]

Is it only 8+? Testing on dummies which are 5 and simming it seems like it is basically keep enrage up and TB and TC between

[summer quail]

tons of adds in raid tho. puzzle good in cds, whether it beats other trinkets remain to be seen(when things actually live)

[fossil grove]

thats messed up man

[vivid pollen]

on 5 targets, I think you'd be at a significant disadvantage not bloodthirsting with whirlwind stacks

[civic hemlock]

Well you alternate, imagine rampage -> tc/tb -> bt -> tc/tb -> rampage (if enrage is falling)

But I think it changes slightly outside of cd window

[vivid pollen]

My understanding is, during your CDs, your prio (5 or less targets) is BT > Rampage > TB/TC

Above 5 targets TB/TC are top prio

or maybe its like 6 targets or something

point being rampage with WW stacks is still more damage than a TB or TC, I think

But if you get 2 stacks of TB, it moves up in prio

[cunning sentinel]

We still using the macro to cancle WW stacks in ST?

[civic hemlock]

Check this out https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vaQPrEpVWkmi6u4dpHHHXz

It looks like the sim is prioing tb/tc in CDs on 5 targets

But maybe I am reading it incorrectly

[radiant plank]

maybe theres something to avatar that makes clpa a better button hmm

[warm crag]

no idea why it'd do that

dont look at top fury logs on the dragons

[fading bane]

That is what the guide says too

[lament lagoon]

When i look at cleave fights in heroic lot of th top parss i seeTC as #1

[vivid pollen]

oh I thought the more than 6 targets clause was on TB as well

[civic hemlock]

Edited too many times. But what I was trying to say is I'm not 100% certain on the 6 target it mentions in the guide based on sims.

[radiant plank]

Could it be because of this

hmmm

[warm crag]

what do you mean clap ramp clap ramp does rashanan levels of pad

[vivid pollen]

storm surge applies to TB as well doesn't it?

[warm crag]

yes

[radiant plank]

You are gonna get same treatment as ansurek HC week

just wait for todays notes

[warm crag]

i embrace it

[summer quail]

has notes come out on fridays recently?

[radiant plank]

no

[warm crag]

does it matter

[radiant plank]

Give it another 10 hours

[warm crag]

this will be a first

[radiant plank]

So its a prot warr tier

[vivid pollen]

what are we expecting to see in the notes?

[radiant plank]

-10%

[vivid pollen]

slayer becoming bis again? 🙏

[radiant plank]

Probly some tclap+blst nerfs

[warm crag]

hoping for nothing realistically some insane change that is unjustified

[radiant plank]

and a OF nerf just for fun

[heavy folio]

holy, adds dmg on ?? is no joke

[civic hemlock]

Lucky bastard

[warm crag]

click defensive buttons and burst them (lust the seocnd set)

[cunning sentinel]

We still using the macro to cancle WW stacks in ST?

[lament lagoon]

to be fiar i got ntohing 6/6N Chimera H andd 4/6H

[fading bane]

If Arms get some crazy buffs it could become really strong ngl

[warm crag]

get cooked by loot council noob

[civic hemlock]

Fair but I would take that trade for that sword lol

[warm crag]

you are highly delulu if you think arms is getting buffed after what happened with unholy just now

[lament lagoon]

i thought this was America

[fading bane]

let me have my cope

[warm crag]

can just farm a hc track weapon in m+ next week while m+ trinkets just look like hot garbge

[lament lagoon]

tht gna be from m+9 ?

M9+

[radiant plank]

Another 5% aura

and we are gonna bust on the paladin council + first boss

[fading bane]

Arms AoE is good, but ST is wack

Just shift some power

[radiant plank]

you know they cant do that

[warm crag]

have you seen any nuance in warrior patch notes recently

x% aura buff incoming

[warm crag]

No

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231286447131328544/1462842381568180378/rem.gif

[vivid pollen]

is there a reason you are expecting notes in 10 hrs?

[radiant plank]

classic hc week tuning

Pretty confident on it since liquid slowed down their splits pace so they can take the tuning into account for the remaining splits they have

[fading bane]

They already announced that they are doing tuning on the first 3 resets

[radiant plank]

first 3

monka

[fading bane]

And they basically always release the notes before the weekend

Just like they did last friday

[radiant plank]

arms will be saved

thane will die

[fading bane]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/news/eu/class-tuning-updates-and-what-to-expect-in-midnight-world-of-warcraft-blizzard-24243864

4 resets actually

[compact siren]

Continue to cope

You have permission

[radiant plank]

Look how strong it is

nerfs inbound

[fiery edge]

fury eating good huh

[blissful hound]

Fury eating lots of add padding

[radiant plank]

same as ansurekk tier

[worn rain]

vietnam flashbacks tier sht

[late vapor]

got this from a delve. is this ass? it isnt listed on bis list trinkets on wowhead at all

[signal falcon]

Bis lists are going to be based around items you can get on myth

And world/delve trinkets only go up to hero

So just can’t compete with higher ilvl stuff really

[late vapor]

that makes sense

[signal falcon]

Could sim and see if it’s good for now though

[naive umbra]

morning guys

is there any spread sheet for fury warriors?

like I know wowhead tells me a bunch of option for trinkets

but how about rings?

i sim it but still xd

[warm crag]

sim yourself its entirely dependent on what you have

[naive umbra]

i mean the sims says the bis m+ trinket it's worst...

[warm crag]

dunno if puzzle box is simming correctly

[naive umbra]

the rest is?

[late vapor]

check if the sim is using pot of recklessness

that might be causing issues, at least that causes issues on unholy sims

[naive umbra]

I'm using that pot too, am i not suppose too?

[late vapor]

unholy sims are bugged when using pot of recklessness. use a different pot and see if the results improve for fury.

[spare steppe]

I swear to god if they touch odyn’s again

[naive umbra]

how do i check that?

[red berry]

really don’t know if we’ll get nerfed again

[lapis breach]

How much dmg does our 2set and 4 set gives?

[tacit bronze]

again? didnt we get buffed last patch

lmao

[red berry]

well

my mind was still in s1 tww for some reason

but we did yes

[radiant plank]

it is not

[cunning sentinel]

Are we still using cancel WW stack macro for single target as Thane?

[granite crown]

If you're playing RR talent sure, if not then not.

[heavy folio]

am I able to set up enrage buff as a bar in default cooldown manager?

[cunning sentinel]

tyy

[cedar flume]

[digital mauve]

What's the best tips to parse good on Chimaerus ?

[molten wing]

probably just hope you go downstairs more often

[late vapor]

pad on adds

[uncut breach]

Hello, I can't seem to find a proper answer, Slayer or Thane for M+, what sim the best ?

[fiery hare]

pot of reck fucking up sims is so annoying -.-

[rare garnet]

hows it messing up sims

[south chasm]

Bloodmallet

[crystal summit]

Yup! Go to buffs it's there

[errant wedge]

Any idea when guides will be updated? I see Thane seems the choice now cant find info in guide/pinned/anywhere really

[rare garnet]

you're the goat, no wonder secondary stats were such an insane importance on sims making all my upgrades look like downgrades, i didn't even consider recklessness was set as our default instead of lights potential

[fiery hare]

yea i just saw it somewhere above here

and then i was like oh fuck

[naive umbra]

what is that

[cedar crescent]

Anyone know what fight style is easiest to sim for Voidspire? Hectic Cleve?

[granite crown]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/midnight-season-1-raid-tips

Fairly clear there

[south chasm]

Its a website that shows a graph of different things for each class in order from highest dps to lowest

mainly trinkets but its got other information on there as well

it also shows what classes benefit most from PI

[granite crown]

Bloodmallet isn't a great source of actionable information to be honest. Simming your own gear >>> Looking at a general list generated by a gearset that doesn't exist in reality nor related to your own character

[tawny helm]

should i believe this sim of crucible here?, all trinkets are 263ilvl

i just got the heart of wind one, and wondering if i should use it, instead of crucible

any1 thats good with sims, could help me here?

[spare steppe]

Why is recklessness pot so impactful for sims?

[rare garnet]

Because it increases your highest stat and lowers lowest stat so if you suddenly fuck that up with a gear swap because 3 stats are close together

[tawny helm]

ezkath, could ya help me sim my char, and check if stats are as they should etc?

[rare garnet]

Just do as the sims command

[tawny helm]

simc, then top gear, paste it in, click in what gear, do something with config or just send it?

[glad coyote]

what is this

[rare garnet]

Too may externals

Someone slamming PIs into a fury warrior lol

[visual umbra]

where can I find the potions/flask settings in raidbots top sim?

nvm I finally found it.

[south chasm]

warcraft logs still wont take it?

[south chasm]

this is true but i still like to look at it just to see what is generally the top trinkets

its usually pretty accurate for that

its also based of sim craft

[unborn delta]

is is wrong to say that our top 2 trinkets are alnseer + ancient hunger

[south chasm]

i guess wowhead is wrong as well

🤷‍♂️

[waxen vigil]

how much of a dps loss is it to actually talent enraged regen

it is very stupid that you even need to ask tbh

[south chasm]

should be baseline for fury

[unborn delta]

on thane drop massacre on slayer drop wrath and fury

[waxen vigil]

yes

[late vapor]

i mean if you drop warpaint for it it's not a dmg loss

[coarse nest]

Absolutely do not drop warpaint

[south chasm]

FR

[heavy dock]

take both since biggest dps loss is dying

so enraged regen is dps gain

[unborn delta]

so far there has been no content on my fury that required me to take ER though

I haven't even used my defensive stance macro yet in raid

[heavy dock]

i used it a ton while lvling :D

pulling 20 mobs

[south chasm]

same lmfao

[heavy dock]

they kinda hurt

[unborn delta]

i levelled as prot bc fury wasdoing prot dmg while levelling

[coarse nest]

Just press reflect and tank all other damage

[heavy dock]

i was doing ok until i hit voidstorm

then it slowed a lot

[jovial dagger]

idk why but i always thought ER is baseline in fury kit , i always had it

cant do m+ without

[heavy dock]

same yea

[jovial dagger]

like if i cant be in a phys comp , rally cry and ER are my best friends alongside impeding victory

[pulsar quest]

Funny when raid lead says hit a defensive

Just be standing there

Maybe a hit an Sr

[jovial dagger]

was funny when i saw the other warrior never hitting rally cry , dont think he knows it exists

blue skill wut dis , i like only red

[heavy dock]

hey rallying cry hasnt been blue since legion i think :D

its that man shouting now

pretty orange/brown

[jovial dagger]

i swear its blue

[wet pendant]

its blue

[fading bane]

Man screaming with blue bacground

[jovial dagger]

i knew it

thanks i m not senile

[wet pendant]

we are the defensive

[pulsar quest]

I bet half the people forget our move speed bonus too

Raid lead called for roar for movement I said boss when's it my turn

[brittle crow]

me when i press spell reflect on shit i know damn well is physical damage

that way im technically correct when they check logs

[blissful hound]

I was asked today what my def cd is called because there wasnt anything in logs

[brittle crow]

the healer core is surprisingly ok with my predicament

they're just like it's fine until u start dying from it

ive gone thru a lot more health pots than id like to lately

[blissful hound]

As Thane youre pretty much sitting on perma 18% dmg reduc

So its whatever

And worst case you go def stance

[brittle crow]

i totally forgot i have def stance loll

[echo rapids]

😐

[brittle crow]

what's that for!

[echo rapids]

Yeh I mean fair

I’ve felt insanely tanky

But that’s with decent use of defensive stance

[brittle crow]

im tanky on a moment to moment basis but when the cards r down and i get dispel-> soak on chimaerus normally i can fend for myself with ER

but i forgor i dont have it and forgor to def stance

so i health pot instead

[maiden helm]

Barely any difference I can guess, but since I last really played there is like 7 new races, what is the best race for fury warr pve?

[echo rapids]

Def stands does require the pre usage for it to work

[maiden helm]

Is it still orcs?

[echo rapids]

But layered with spell reflect DR it’s strong

[echo rapids]

I think it’s panda because food is really strong

[void yoke]

How have you all found is the easiest/best/fastest way to rewire your brains from S3 of TWW? My logs in raiding this week have been aggressively mid, and WoWAnalyzer is telling me I'm hitting Raging Blow too much. I've been making a conscious effort to prioritize literally anything else, but at this point it feels like I'd be better off just removing it from my bar.

[spare steppe]

Sit at a dummy and just stare at your buttons and hit everything you can before raging blow

Break that muscle memory

[pastel geyser]

I can’t do it. I’m too much of a regard to not have enraged regen. If I can’t have massacre then so be it.

[pastel geyser]

I moved raging blow to where bloodthirst used to be key bind wise

[unborn delta]

same

[jovial dagger]

same

[void yoke]

I legitimately considered this last night, but thought it might have an unintended effect.

[rare garnet]

are you playing slayer?

[void yoke]

Mainly, yeah.

[rare garnet]

make BT and RB into macros and set the icon manually of BT to RBs icon and RB to BTs icon, now your brain is rewired

[void yoke]

That gave me a good chuckle, so thanks for that.

I appreciate the feedback, all. Trying to keep my spot on raid team lol

[brittle crow]

only time i moved bt was for annihilator build

otherwise my keybinds stay the same

bring back annihilator

[bold forge]

In the cooldown manager I just moved raging blow to like the furthest right so it’s barely on my natural FOV and I just press it when everything else is on cooldown more naturally

[void yoke]

I'm for sure going to try this, and Idk why I haven't already. The CD manager icons don't align with my keybinds, so that actually would likely help a lot.

[bold forge]

Basically my cooldown manager for rotation abilities is ordered from typical highest prio abilities to lowest prios from left to right

[bold forge]

Also if you use the addon Cooldown Manager Centered you can display keybinds on the abilities

Might help

[sweet flower]

are we capped to one trove map in delves per week? I saw in a guide that this item I have "beacon of hope" supposedly spawns the boss inside your delve and killing him gives a 100% trove drop. But I already did all my bountiful for this week

and I already got one map randomly during one

so can I still get a second

[worn rain]

1 per week

same as tww

you can hold on to your beacon for next week

[sweet flower]

so just save this for next week? do my delves and pray I get a trove drop, but if I don't then use the beacon to force one

next week

[drifting token]

So mote it be

[worn rain]

previously in tww if you looted and used map

beacon would drop some lower tier gear

or part of coffer key

dunno how it would work now

but I would still hold for beacon so rng drop will not compromise your hero piece for the week

[solid tusk]

would you guys use puzzlebox? It feels kinda shit to use in a fight like cosmos HC

[coarse nest]

It’s a good aoe trinket for sure

[dense elbow]

If it was big enough of a dps diff to make me care. It probably aint

[coarse nest]

Yeah I don’t think I’ll be bothered to use it either unless it totally gaps everything else on a fight

[solid tusk]

more of an aoe trinket? Well so if i wanna pad hard its good i guess - but kinda useless in cosmos hc

[lean heart]

only reason puzzle box was not as annoying back then was becus you could channel it during avatar/bladestorm with torment

and it used to be 3mins

[solid tusk]

ye the 2 sec cast time is annoying as fuck - might be good on a boss which only has 1 use and pre use it

[odd crater]

Guys, chuck Norris is dead. We must DPS harder than ever in his honor

[remote bobcat]

f

[winter shoal]

Would have to be a fight that lasts under 1:30 or else I think guidon probably better

[modest stirrup]

F

[rancid locust]

F

[coarse nest]

F

[solid tusk]

i tried playing around with it but nah - thx tho guys!

[sullen dove]

Lightning strikes does also hit all targets I believe just also reduced last a certain amount, but also thunder blast extends avatar by 2 seconds

[south chasm]

I saw someone talking about removing the WW stacks for single target damage earlier

what is the point of doing that ?

[sullen dove]

only if you pick the rampaging ruin talent that's really bad

so you dont rly do that

[lean osprey]

Is it worth it to craft darkmoon dominion hunt?

[odd crater]

I seem to be stuck around there, but hey, purple parse is a happy parse for now

[sullen dove]

which boss

[odd crater]

Chimerax or whatever

[sullen dove]

eh yea that can be helped more by trying harder to pad but is also possible to get higher by nearly fully committing to boss as slayer

[radiant plank]

or by padding as slayer

[remote bobcat]

slayer bladestorm adds brrrr

[sullen dove]

i think i sent like... 1-2 full bladestorm on adds that fight

when it lined up well

but otherwise kinda didnt wanna sit on em for too long

[next mica]

next week we can craft x2 myth track weapons?

[sullen dove]

if u go down 2nd group its prolly better for you

[next mica]

or we wont have enough crests for it?

[sullen dove]

only 1

we dont have 8 sparks

[odd crater]

Yeah I'm second group, as per my recommendation to the RL 😛

[sullen dove]

but the 1 weapon is enough to let offhand be free upgrade

[quiet geyser]

Thane for everything

[sullen dove]

yea so generally should just bust on boss and presumably you have reck/bs coming up for when first set of smallies pop out

[next mica]

u need 8 sparks for 2 weps? not 4?

[sullen dove]

would send on that

[sullen dove]

if u mean 2 crafted weapons yeah it would be 4 x2 but you shouldnt ever make 2 weapons

the 1 weapon we already made this week is good enuff

[odd crater]

How many sparks do you get across a whole season?

[sullen dove]

and next week can get recrafted with myths

[next mica]

yeye ik i just wanted to know how sparks work this s

[sullen dove]

idk more than youll ever use

just 1 a week until season ends

so prolly like... 20-25 more

[odd crater]

Huh, I figured it capped

[sullen dove]

naw

[echo rapids]

That’s what I’m planning for now

[toxic iron]

guys someone can give me the best rotation for raid and mythic +? and explain why on wowlogs i can copy the right build it say 3 points are not spended, maybe a bug of the site?

[undone flower]

It’s a bug

[toxic iron]

to be honest always used arms and im not very well versed with fury :/

[undone flower]

If you check their summary they have all 4

[quiet geyser]

The damage between slayer and thane for 90% of the fights is basically the same. Thane is 10000% more fun to play

[toxic iron]

thanks mate

[quiet geyser]

Seems like a no brainer lol

[sullen dove]

aside from as mentioned a 2 minute faster kill time and 5 less casts per minute than him, a few other key differences is he is in a 30 man raid group as the result of a split most likely, so the adds have much higher health for him than they would you, meaning more opportunity to soak up some extra pad, additionally he's also fully kitted out in enchants which are probably a reasonable ish price for now, but at least at minimum because your crafted weapon is staying with your the entire season its probably worth to at least shill out for the best max rank enchant on that one, as a full plethora of gems are enchants are easily worth about 10% dps im sure

so yea some combination of
-better play (on account of the 5 more cpm than you)
-better group (10 more players so adds have 50% more hp for example but boss still died 2 minutes earlier which as mentioned before is important since less % of your time was during lust)
-just simply shelling out some gold which is like the most guaranteeable/noticable upgrade if you have the excess funds to do sooh w

[smoky vale]

holy yap

[sullen dove]

gio when

[smoky vale]

always

[sullen dove]

oh w8 u dont get a third intermission nvm

you just die if that happens forgot

well either way 2 min is a lot of time

[smoky vale]

2m

is way too much of a kill time difference

[sullen dove]

honestly its prolly not that bad if you can make optimal use of it

like he'd get more adds that critcake didnt

but just cant really overcome adds having that much more hp on account of group size as well as just 0 enchants on your character

enchants are op

[odd crater]

Has anyone got any loot from any of their raids so far? Just asking because I haven't and I wanna be jealous of others

[winter axle]

Are there any warrior addons that track buff uptime like a weakaura would have done?

[smoky vale]

ive gotten 4 items that no one else wanted

and i had to beg

[sullen dove]

ive gotten uh... 7 things i think? and 2 was a heroic and normal version of the same item

[smoky vale]

3 of them were for prot

[sullen dove]

shield piggy

[smoky vale]

🛡️ 🐷

[odd crater]

My guild is going to throw together a sunday raid for Heroic, so hopefully that gets better luck

I got a spot saved as I'm 2nd DPS in our raids lewl

[solid tusk]

3 nhc items 1 hc

[sullen dove]

[smoky vale]

i need m+ man

[sullen dove]

you need jesus

[smoky vale]

my parents already tried that

made me worse

[sullen dove]

holy rank 5 dragons

man if i had 4set going into that boss

surely wouldve been r1

ffs

dogmeat solo shuffle queues

[smoky vale]

show ranking

i dont believe

[sullen dove]

fym dont believe

[smoky vale]

i said

[sullen dove]

chudge

[somber thicket]

Set gloves from raid Finder and chest from last bos from void

[smoky vale]

I DO NOT BEIEVE

padding piggy

🐷

[sullen dove]

yep

[smoky vale]

i wish i could do the same

[odd crater]

I think I'm gunna just convert my Hero Chest to Tier, because then I'll be able to beg H Raid for 2p

😄

[smoky vale]

no

[odd crater]

Surely it'll work, right?

[sullen dove]

shouldnt really do that till you can get 4set

[smoky vale]

if anything tou spend time doing pvp for another charge

[odd crater]

Also 259 Vault items are Hero track, right?

[sullen dove]

yes

[smoky vale]

and beg for 2 tier pieces

[odd crater]

Wait PvP gives another catalyst charge?

[frosty scroll]

some drown while others thirst , still got all hc crests

[sullen dove]

holy funneled piggy wtf

[spring panther]

got some issues with chosing the trinket

[sullen dove]

you just get a heroic piece off every boss or something

[spring panther]

2 of them are not on bloodmallet

any recoms?

[frosty scroll]

i got 5 hc pieces

[sullen dove]

you familiar with raidbots

best way to decide things like this

[frosty scroll]

along with 2-set

[odd crater]

Use the 2 non-use trinkets, because I dislike Use trinkets

[sullen dove]

the crit one is probably decent to keep

even if its kinda ahh

[sullen dove]

prolly the best there

[spring panther]

this one looks decent on paper

but there is nothing about it on bloodmallet

maybe the proc

is dogshit?

[sullen dove]

yea they prolly dont bother with world content trinkets

usually just from dungeons/raids

[spring panther]

they used to

[sullen dove]

cuz they actually go beyond normal ilvl

[spring panther]

its from delve i belve

[sullen dove]

idk maybe

[spring panther]

delve ones goes higher?

thats a delve trinket

[sullen dove]

the max you could get is hero track i guess but thats pretty rare

[solid tusk]

In sims its worse than crucible

[sullen dove]

but yea think it just doesnt proc very well

[spring panther]

ok

[solid tusk]

I got it on hc and simmed vs crucible on 250 - it was still below crucible

[spring panther]

thanks for your services

[ionic hamlet]

Is the ST opener the same as the Multi one for Thane from the guides? I don't see a ST Thane opener

[chilly rover]

vorasius trinket doesnt seem to proc alot, i guess that is the drawback of the big proc

[sullen dove]

might not fully be one for that since idk not as common to think about st on thane but it'd make sense for like m+ bosses at least

but i think there should generally be a prio list to follow too

but its pmuch just rampage at 100 rage or over > 2 charges of thunder blast > bb > rampage > thunderblast

so like, youre not hitting thunderblast/clap every other global like you would in aoe

and end up hitting bb more often since it does a lot more on st

and if tblast and bb are on cd then you still just hit rampage

[ionic hamlet]

Got it, that makes sense thank you

[sullen dove]

eh i had 30% uptime on chimerus

its prolly a little swingy in rng depending on if you get more procs on adds or not but i imagine its reliable enough

[halcyon pagoda]

If you copy your log into wowanalyzer it can flag a few issues for you regarding wasted globals, poor ability selection and CD usage

[warm crag]

@winter shoal was it you who maintained that

[ionic hamlet]

I've been hitting dummies past few days triying to learn this prio. This is definitely not right on a ST dummy is it lol