#fury

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sullen dove
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but would require 2 raid tier + 1 more or 1600 pvp + the free one

frozen portal
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whichmissive do we use

sullen dove
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probably feverflare which i think is hastemast but you can sim it

jolly tundra
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Is the pawn addon reliable when it comes to upgrades of non trinket slots?

verbal wolf
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guys just checked wowhead and they are not taking enraged regeneration, is there a reason for this ?

verbal wolf
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oh lol then

spare steppe
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so i was chosen as the sacrifice for crown of the cosmos but got one shot by the boss. how do i live

brittle crow
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is dungeon slice working rn

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or do i sim patchwerk 5

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got another FUCKING trinket

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my hero piece from delves is a trinket

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2 trinkets from prey, all trinkets from delves, trinket from my map

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im going to trink myself

loud patrol
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I’ll take a trink

indigo arch
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I've just been doing 5 tar 5m

heavy folio
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stupid question but weapon type dont really mater, right?

summer quail
heavy folio
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sweet

stoic star
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Is it recommended to wait until your Delve Journey Renown level 4 before using the Map for the Hero Track piece in a Tier 8 Delve?

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Says the stash rewards Myth Crests with the map if you have that renown reward unlocked.

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But I guess that would work similarly to how it did last season in TWW where it had to be a Tier 11 Delve to get the most Myth Crests rewarded.

halcyon pagoda
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Speaking of trinkets I wish the fun kickball backpack did more damage for the effort

slate cobalt
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so outside of fallen-king, thane and slayer are kinda even with current gear tuning? Was expecting to see people play slayer more on warcraftlogs

modest condor
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if you take 1 look at the bosses you would know it's looking like a primarily thane tier

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pretty much every boss has some form of cleave/aoe

slate cobalt
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yeah but I thought Slayer is supposed to beat out thane on small 2-3 target cleaves too

modest condor
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i would even say that if you dont play thane on a boss you just dont bring a dps warrior at all

vast gorge
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Why does crucible sim so high?

modest condor
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it barely beats thane on 1 target

slate cobalt
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thanks for the info.

winter axle
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We DO spend champ crest yeah?

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prio in weaps/rings/trinkets I'd assume

echo rapids
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Decline in value fast next week

rare garnet
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no reason not to spend champ, you get 3/6H from keys next week so wont be doing the weird, get 1 extra level of gear like we did with vet crests

icy oriole
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is puzzle box ass or is the sim off?

rare garnet
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thank god, fuck box

echo rapids
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I don’t even see the trinket, I’m not using it

rare garnet
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im more likely to play thane than use box (not at all likely)

final patio
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Hi guys, quick question we do use the 4 sparks to craft the 259 Blood Knights Warblade as fury this week right?

brittle crow
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do i want puzzle box or not

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i need a straight answer

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bloodmallet isnt alive

odd vapor
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should we craft this now?

brittle crow
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oh we DO have bloodmallet

winter shoal
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Sim uses puzzlebox after reck instead of before, which is ~1% worse

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But puzzlebox is still not very good

gleaming crag
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why did they make it take 80 when it used to be 60 crests

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fucking shit -.-

rare garnet
coarse nest
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you guys drop fresh meat for ER?

rare garnet
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ill wait to see what the gods tell us if we ever end up with a point where ER is actually something I need, we're a long way from that

coarse nest
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we should utilize it for actual prog

unkempt grotto
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are all the "Deals some damage" embellishments traps? theyre always like 0.003% of dmg.

coarse nest
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just was curious

rare garnet
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i have to assume there is a better drop than fresh meat cause then you're also losing spite and CSHB, im gonna guess we drop executioner's wrath but who knows

olive wraith
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Don’t take er

mystic kayak
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Just messed up my imports on accident and reset my UI. How do I get rid of the default rampage lines showing up beside my char?

unkempt galleon
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yall sending it on champ/vet upgrades?

coarse nest
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yes

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do not spend hero

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or myth

frank dawn
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yeah, be pretty hard to mess up spending champ/vet

coarse nest
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well

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spend vet on 240+

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spend champ on 250+

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or just send them on whatever becuase it wont matter in about 2 weeks

frank dawn
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1 week*

coarse nest
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LOL tru

unkempt galleon
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true just trying to squeeze out ilvl

fringe linden
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Am I insane for waiting for the Bloomforge Greataxe to be craftable. I have issues settling for the Sword.

coarse nest
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post in trade someone might have it?

bold carbon
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we can hold bladestorm for reck but never hold reck right

unborn delta
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our bis stil alnseer

coarse nest
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yes

sage ether
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is gaze of alnseer trinket good still for fury?

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doesnt seem to be simming well

ember salmon
mystic kayak
vivid pollen
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Does the tier set change our priority to rampage from bloodthirst during reck?

rare garnet
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got beat to the punch

sullen dove
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is the word bloodthirst mentioned anywhere in these sacred texts

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oh wait thought question said from ramp to bt

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but its always been ramp above almost everything anyway

maiden sphinx
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rip

sullen dove
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so not like much changed dont think

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should just be the same stuff

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pmuch dont have a choice but to hit ramp either every other global or sometimes one out of 3 globals

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sometimes even 2/3 tbh

charred flume
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whats the best crafted weapon for fury does it matter ?

sullen dove
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all the same dont matter

charred flume
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i see the mercy and the blood sword

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oh ok

sullen dove
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minus 80 billion champ crests on the normal one

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ok so thoughts on sending hero track on 1 trinket right cuz you would need 2 myth trinkets to "save" on them anyway, and that'll prolly take a while, only thing that may short term be wasted is just 20 hero's cuz you farm 3/6h from m+ next week

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but kinda feel like still slam it

coarse nest
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nah

sullen dove
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180 heros this week cluegi

coarse nest
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next week you can loot an M+ hero

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and save crests

sullen dove
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yea just 20 doe

coarse nest
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20s 20

sullen dove
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20dollars is 20 dollars

vivid pollen
coarse nest
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amen

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xD

sullen dove
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especially since you get cdr

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its bit wasteful to hold it for reck and stuff

soft orbit
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hey guys dumb question i can either craft blood knight or blood knight mercy right?

sullen dove
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so you prolly just insta send on cd

coarse nest
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all buttons on cooldown In the right order
profit

sullen dove
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idk what blood knight by itself is

soft orbit
unborn delta
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is this bis

sullen dove
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prolly pretty good idk about bis

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can always just sim droptimizer to see how much better other trinks are

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like first boss of raid trink i think is the main comparison

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haste on use vs perma haste

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imagine the on use still better but think it'd be decently close

brittle crow
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not yuge!

serene socket
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any recommended builds for raid prog? what cleanest way to get enraged regen without dropping whirlwind

sullen dove
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dropping massacre probably

brittle crow
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thats such a feels bad

serene socket
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yeah i have no idea why this is a talent node. was fine as a baseline

gleaming crag
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will we get 30 myth every time we kill him or was that a one pop ?

keen kindle
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But I think they patched it

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So probably one pop?

summer eagle
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yep

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patched it fast

rare garnet
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yeah no shot we just cap myth crests face tanking an easy delve boss

keen kindle
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Blizz dosent like us being able to cap myth crests in delves so

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Yeah

spiral ermine
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Guys, bloodmallet or wowhead guide for trinket.. they are so diferent lol

rare garnet
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sim the trinkets in your bags instead

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and add them if you dont have with top gear

summer eagle
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Got that damnshield

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YEEE

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oops wrong channel. damn

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gg fury

sullen dove
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gg nice shield

sullen dove
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wicked mog too

summer eagle
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Ty. Naked mog is simple. Optimal.

warm wren
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So did I miss something

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Or did we get absolute screwed on defensives

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Tf is that ER placement in our tree

cloud jungle
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how good is this? I didn't see it in any list

crystal summit
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I rock it

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Did great DMG in crown of the cosmos

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Love me some haste

cloud jungle
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not in blood mallet nor wowhead "tier list"

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Yeah I just got it

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and sims well

crystal summit
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I use that and heart of wind or whatever

cloud jungle
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Didnt get no loot from raid so need to hold onto it :p

hybrid yew
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so if we crafted a 259 weapon, when we "Recraft" it we're using 80 myth crests right?

crystal summit
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Think it's hero

median falcon
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Im a little slow, so we don't have access to gilded from delves this week right?

crystal summit
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Mines 252 with no crests

median falcon
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Got 11, ran a bountiful, no gilded( im rank 2)

hybrid yew
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i was told we shouldnt use hero crests when crafting it cause we'd be wasting 80 hero crests

snow flower
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Gilded myth crests starts at Rank 4 of the journey, otherwise it's Hero

winter shoal
crystal summit
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Yessir

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Save for mythic ya?

median falcon
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OH

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gdamnit

slender glen
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I just got this in a delve and Berserker Rage negates the fear effect so... it seems pretty solid considering 164 to all stats on a 2 min CD.

summer quail
slender glen
gaunt herald
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is this a joke in the fury wowhead

winter shoal
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No I think some of the wowhead shared components get a little fucky under the hood

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that is kinda funny tho

gaunt herald
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Did you craft wep bowl

raw canyon
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Hey all, crafted a 2h wep already what should second craft be

stoic star
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Fastest way to farm Veteran Crests? Trying to upgrade pieces to save the 40 champion crests getting to 3/6 Champ

winter shoal
winter shoal
raw canyon
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Okay so dont craft second spark

summer quail
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if you crafted weapon you don't have any sparks to craft with

surreal linden
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no one is pressing rend?

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in raid?

prime fjord
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Should I be crafting my weapon with 80 heroic crest?

drifting token
rich flame
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No one's sundering either....

rare garnet
chrome wraith
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uh oh boys

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the dks are back

winter shoal
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@sullen dove rate the thane M+ spec sim

sullen dove
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🫴🫴

bronze bison
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thinking of picking up fury, does it avoid the "boring no dmg without your 1min CD" design of most dps atm?

sullen dove
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not too much other than thanes "do fun cool damage during cds" lasts like 20-25 seconds every 45-60s

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so sorta half uptime of banging

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on aoe at least

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st kinda who cares

winter shoal
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It's not nearly as spikey as sub rogue/dk

bronze bison
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got it -- thanks! How's it feel for leveling/solo content?

winter shoal
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It's pretty chill, we're pretty tanky and have decent enough on-demand damage

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And cds are decent

unborn delta
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yo i got champ alnser

smoky vale
hollow leaf
stray bolt
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I'm getting gapped hard by surv hunters in my heroic raid, am I just bad?

lament lagoon
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boys whats the prio for ST

winter shoal
unreal yoke
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Why is there no simcraft profile for warriors yet (other than prot)

glossy lichen
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Anyone know why delve trinkets aren't on bloodmallet? I got that glorious crusaders keepsake at 259 -.- doesn't sim great but got me wondering

winter shoal
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If you already simmed it and it wasn't good, why do you need bloodmallet

glossy lichen
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got me wondering

winter shoal
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wondering what?

glossy lichen
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why the delve trinkets aren't on bloodmallet

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so I can know before I get something if it's likely going to be good or not

worn shuttle
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trying to fix this opacity when out of range

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can't quite find the setting

winter shoal
spiral ermine
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can someone with rlly good logs sned it to me?

winter shoal
unreal yoke
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Why is bladestorm not on this priority list?

worn shuttle
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Outside of cooldowns?

limpid tide
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On vaelgor and ezzorak any1 can help me target the ads better?

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is there a macro or somthing

winter shoal
unreal yoke
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Ye but rek and odyns is there

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Ah I see so it has no priority outside rek

winter shoal
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I think the "inside cooldowns" is mostly just to handle the BB/CB stuff so it doesn't clutter the rotation

winter shoal
tawdry cliff
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is there any specific reason why impetus is stated as the best crafted option instead of, say, 2H mace or sword?

winter shoal
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But because you get so much less BS cdr now, it's more worth delaying it a bit to pair with reck

summer quail
winter shoal
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sword, axe, mace should all be identical dps

tawdry cliff
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got you, thanks

smoky vale
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bigbowwl are you ready for gio sotd

unreal yoke
glossy lichen
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do we still need to cancelaura whirlwind on ST fights?

frosty ibex
tawdry cliff
frosty ibex
winter shoal
ionic portal
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is it worth sending hero crests onto crafted weppy?

winter shoal
ionic portal
worn shuttle
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nope

lament lagoon
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Slayer oesnt use Avatar?

worn shuttle
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not if you run heroic

unreal yoke
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Just craft no crests then go max ilvl next week with m+

winter shoal
lament lagoon
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right on

winter shoal
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it's a choice node now

lament lagoon
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ust noticed

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thats why i was confusicous

lapis rose
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Guys am I right with system, if we upgrade like veteran chest 5/5 we get 50% on our alt on chest upgrades, or we need upgrade every veteran slot gear 5/5 for getting 50%on alt?

smoky vale
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i think it should be every slot but im not sure

lavish sierra
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Guide says send vet and champ crests cuz moot next week. Save heroic

unreal yoke
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It's when you get the achievement for finishing a track in every slot

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That's when Ur alts get discount

lavish sierra
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250 is the level I think

unreal yoke
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250 In every slot I believe

lapis rose
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That’s hard because we swap gear fast now

lavish sierra
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Any tips for those stupid paladins

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Doing it on normal tomorrow

unreal yoke
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Dodge the hammers

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I checked, you don't get DPS increase by running at them

slim coral
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@dapper goblet you are cringe

dapper goblet
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freelo

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@sullen dove

slim coral
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balanced class btw

sullen dove
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holy gapped

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100k dmg done

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vildk 700k

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odd

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have we thought of perhaps a disarm

slim coral
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they didnt let me move

brittle crow
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holy fuc

sullen dove
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you dont need to move to disarm

brittle crow
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so in raid i hold it until adds p much

slim coral
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they ccd me bud

limpid elbow
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what does this mean

sullen dove
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trinket??

slim coral
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I did trinket

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perma ccd gg

sullen dove
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double trinket

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gg

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preemptive spell reflect hoj

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guaranteed xeos insta sent that shit on you

unreal yoke
limpid elbow
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yes

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does that mean the same as below it

sullen dove
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xeos pink bandwagoner btw

limpid elbow
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that when nothing else is avalaible i raging blow

unreal yoke
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Yeah pretty much, then if no raging blows left you whirl

dapper goblet
slim coral
unreal yoke
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You don't spend much time down that low on priority list

sullen dove
sullen dove
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"undecided"

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pink piggy boy

dapper goblet
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first global

dapper goblet
glossy lichen
# winter shoal wondering what?

Also curious because idk how this idle of the loa or crucible of erratic energies is simming so well compared to solarflare prism which is meant to be pretty good :

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/prBcE4QEDvav9erbwMQNNv

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dfYvxCeuymf2auBhTn9ggP

Idk if there's anything to learn from this but yeah I was surprised my 250 war loa held up vs a 259 solarflare prism

slim coral
sullen dove
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holy chad

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whats a spear do tho

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u just use that shit when someone tries to run away from you no

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that shit is not a dmg cd

wild oriole
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i assume its a good idea to spend hero/myth dawncrest on recrafting the 259 2H while its early in the season/no other weapons are available?

worn shuttle
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spear is a gigachad move

sullen dove
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myths next week

sand hatch
worn shuttle
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myth craft

compact knot
wild oriole
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oh its better to jump to myth crests?

compact knot
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anyone else

sullen dove
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my guild is unsure of cata charge acquisition

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lmk how it goes

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so i know if im allowed to do that or not

sudden tusk
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i got a cata cchract from a bountiful delve

sullen dove
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like it says "youll get charges from doin stuff"

worn shuttle
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catalyze if it fulfills 4 pc

sullen dove
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but if its like

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1 a week

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or they drop like candy

limpid elbow
worn shuttle
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Somebody hates you

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Thunderblast id do over thunderclap but keep a stack of WW up

sullen dove
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you never whirlwind if you are thane

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if you are slayer yea you do

limpid elbow
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thane

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if i can execute then execute is always no.1 priority right? in aoe and in single target aswell

sullen dove
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not number 1 but its good

limpid tide
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@slim coral i asked in ur twitch chat but had to go, For the adds on Vealgor and ezzorak they die so quick and its hard for me to target close ones to me and tab seems to targets ones far away... any good tech for that like macro or somthing

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on heroic

worn shuttle
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Save odyns

limpid tide
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ik its big dam

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im trying to target the mobs so i can hit it after i reck ava clap

worn shuttle
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ig you can turn on action targeting

slim coral
worn shuttle
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if its that big of a problem

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but you should have dragons close enough to cleave

slim coral
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for our raid the tanks drag the dragon on top fo the ads

limpid elbow
slim coral
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so I can cleave off boss

worn shuttle
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^^

slim coral
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but you really wanna use OF on the ads

sullen dove
limpid tide
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yea idk the ads are far away in our raid

sullen dove
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rampage and bloodthirst are higher

worn shuttle
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You can rotate reck and OF before the purple circles

sullen dove
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but if you cant press those then execute is next

limpid elbow
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it clearly states that whenever it is possible i should use it

sullen dove
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at a lower priority than the spells above it

worn shuttle
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We straight up abuse that fight

compact knot
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odyns fury tier set

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in a raid of aoe burst

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...

sullen dove
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ive seen this before

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gg

compact knot
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yeah i think this is good

limpid tide
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is execute with a SD a high prio in thane?

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or whatever makes it proc

edgy widget
limpid tide
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ik its not sd

worn shuttle
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fury is very situational at all times

slim coral
compact knot
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omg it actually does so much fucking damage

slim coral
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tab targetting them isnt efficient

compact knot
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odyns getting gutted bros

slim coral
worn shuttle
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OF is number 1 dam on that fight

edgy widget
sullen dove
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i need 1600 before dragons tomorrow

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or else

edgy widget
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rank 6 tonight, but our tanks don't love me enough to pull dragons in

silk hill
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Guys which potion should I be using Potion of Recklessness or Light's Potential?

edgy widget
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no p1/2 dragon cleave either

edgy widget
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or whichever is cheaper

silk hill
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Thanks!

edgy widget
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I did convince our BDK to grip adds onto me, but they're mostly dead by then anyway

worn shuttle
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tried.

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"they're coming anyways"

edgy widget
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most groups will have them dead by then anyway, I just use it to try to stay a little closer to the dargon to reduce movement time

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but yeah, basically just line up cooldowns, bank blast charges when you don't have cooldowns, and clap your lil heart out

random shadow
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is it 2p or 4p that cata charges start droping in m+?

edgy widget
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4p

worn shuttle
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Honestly we have it so easy on that fight. Break tether? charge to other boss

edgy widget
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interpose works p well too

lean heart
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this paladin fight is lowk ass cheeks

turbid bay
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Simple leap does it as well

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Its kinda chill

edgy widget
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leap works, but you might wanna save it for bad overlaps if you get breath right after

worn shuttle
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I like to save leap for purple beam

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emergency

turbid bay
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Yeah true

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I need to fix my interpose macro

lean heart
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you can just kinda walk outta the tether on dragon

turbid bay
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With charge

edgy widget
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we had that happen tonight, but our pro gamer Mistweaver saved the pull with Revival

worn shuttle
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just put interpose and leap on same macro

turbid bay
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Used to have intervene

worn shuttle
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#showtooltip
/cast [mod:shift,@cursor] Interpose; [@cursor] Heroic Leap

turbid bay
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Mmm i guess but if you misclick it will just leap yeh?

edgy widget
random shadow
edgy widget
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also wrecking throw absolutely rips through the shield

turbid bay
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Is that the pld mount shield

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Is her name senn?

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Just insta delete shield?

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With wreck

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Also was there any fight worth running slayer on

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They all seem to be mostly thane

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Apart from mayb saladman

edgy widget
worn shuttle
edgy widget
turbid bay
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Oh really

worn shuttle
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easily

edgy widget
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might change on Mythic

frosty ibex
turbid bay
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Interesting i thought the tic tac toe one would lean in thanes favour

frosty ibex
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in multiple target and single

edgy widget
turbid bay
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Have to do some log review later and copy others homework

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Uhh is it worth holding odyns fury on any of these fights btw

random shadow
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pad some damage, send it on aoe packs keks

turbid bay
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Ya sounds like some dirty pad

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Dont tell my raid lead tho

lean heart
edgy widget
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Imperator - Slayer is better for high dps groups, but you need lucky Bladestorm CDR or you just get cucked

  • Vorasius - adds split up and don't live long anyhow, so I think Slayer is better but it's probably close
  • Fallen-King - Slayer, since ther'es no real cleave
  • Double Dragons - Thane
  • Lightblind - Thane
  • Cosmos - Thane has more P1 add pad, but Slayer is better for actually beating the fight
  • Chimaerus - can go either way, but I think Thane generally aligns better
random shadow
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my guild is more casual semi ish, so i have to anyways keks

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its good pad so it works out fine

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i personally just cant do good on slayer this season for some reason, thane even in ST just does more dps for me

lean heart
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i did slayer for chimaerus it felt good

edgy widget
edgy widget
turbid bay
young swan
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ok that was a long ass time ago

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oh well

worn shuttle
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press OF and win

turbid bay
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Feels good that its a good button again

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But for how long tho

worn shuttle
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with 4PC its a bit much there

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nerf arms again

turbid bay
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At this point i wouldnt be surprised

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They were like better hotfix unholy cant have them being average for a day. Meanwhile with arms

worn shuttle
turbid bay
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Accurate they are only doing slightly more then prot

young swan
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beat by bear with a giant cartoon mallet

lapis rose
smoky vale
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by pressing it on cd

worn shuttle
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try putting it on your bars in order of prio maybe

edgy widget
echo rapids
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Cooldown timings on chimeraus are so awkward

lapis rose
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I press it only during cooldowns when 6+targets and outside for ww buff, correct?

smoky vale
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no

edgy widget
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wasn't too bad for me, just make sure you're in group 2

  • CD on the pull
  • if you're lucky your CDs will come back up by the time adds get busted out, though this will probably happen less often the more gear we get
  • your CDs should be back up in time for group 2 to go down
lament lagoon
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boys do we go Thane for Fallen king ?

edgy widget
#

no

worn shuttle
#

largely incorrect

edgy widget
#

I mean you can, but no ned to

lament lagoon
#

oh got confused

lapis rose
lament lagoon
#

i meant Vlegor

sullen dove
#

dragons then yes

worn shuttle
past wyvern
#

Hey, is 43 casts of raging blow / 10 of crushing blow in a 6 min fight me using it too much ?

lapis rose
lapis rose
smoky vale
worn shuttle
#

If it means you gotta put it on your 1 key go for it

lapis rose
echo rapids
worn shuttle
echo rapids
#

Ended up just cooldowns on Pull and wing it lol

edgy widget
#

but you really wanna be in G2 if you can

echo rapids
#

Felt bad cause the little adds die so fast

#

But yeah I’ll do group 2 next week

limpid tide
#

are wow head talents

#

for thane

#

m+ good?

random shadow
#

in Archi we trust

limpid tide
#

seem off

random shadow
#

what about them seems off

young swan
#

whats wrong with them

random shadow
#

considering every one including many top playeres use his talents enlighten us

sullen dove
#

why am i not doing top damage with the talents grrrr

limpid tide
#

im shitting on dungs

sullen dove
#

then gaming

#

B)

limpid tide
#

just was curiosu

random shadow
#

talents fine, i top dps all the time

sullen dove
#

holy chadge

random shadow
#

im just him

#

got so bad i decided to test a arms dungeon

runic violet
#

my dps sucks 🙁

random shadow
#

why it suck

runic violet
#

currently 248.. getting outdps by others

echo rapids
#

Do none of the thane builds take stance mastery?

random shadow
broken whale
#

so in most fights for raid, are we supposed to save cds for adds?

random shadow
#

can probably path to it but youd have to lsoe something

broken whale
#

im super new to warrior

echo rapids
#

Yikes

random shadow
#

you would probably have to lose crushing force or something alike

young swan
#

thane is tanky as fuck

echo rapids
#

Haha yeah it is

hot shell
#

Word

broken whale
#

oh also another question, in the faq here, the thane raid build doesnt use improved whirlwind, is that intentional?

rare helm
#

Hi, I was about to craft my 2H sword, but while checking the Icy Veins Fury gear guide, I noticed that a crafted polearm is listed as BiS. Now I’m a bit confused — could anyone clarify this?

proven stream
#

weapon type doesnt matter

young swan
#

there is no difference between crafting the polearm and crafting the sword

proven stream
#

sword, axe, mace, polearm

#

pick what u like

modest condor
#

archi rolled the dice and it landed on polearm

rare helm
#

oh ok thx u

eternal lance
limpid hound
#

How fucking crazy is it that unholy is bad for 1-2 days and insta get hotfixed while arms has been unplayable sense xpac launch. What is blizzards obsession with that spec?

wary salmon
#

Wotlk and dk was the best point in wow hands down. Dk gets the love ezpz

sudden tusk
#

1800 done

young swan
#

W

cobalt horizon
#

Is there a spell reflect list going

young swan
#

yeah its on maxroll

cobalt horizon
#

Ta

echo rapids
echo rapids
brittle crow
#

and for slayer or thane? or is it talking about reck so it dont matter

compact knot
#

W buffs

#

(i have 4 100s and all of them are fake

echo rapids
keen kindle
#

Witch is funny

compact knot
#

there is probably someone else that beat him like they beat me

edgy widget
#

the rage generation comes from Crashing Thunder

brittle crow
#

yo archi while ur here
how much dps do i lose by just playing straight thane in raid instead of switching per fight

edgy widget
#

not much

broken whale
#

it doesnt want cleave?

compact knot
edgy widget
#

well you said raid build, which one are we talking

broken whale
#

the raid one

edgy widget
#

there are a lot of raid builds my friend

echo rapids
#

Thane feels more comfortable than I thought

broken whale
#

it shows this

edgy widget
#

what specifically are you looking at

#

ok

brittle crow
#

or notably parsing less lose

compact knot
#

well

#

if you have the gear

edgy widget
# broken whale it shows this

Yeah that's cause I originally had pure ST builds there, but then changed it to the thane raid MT build since Thane never actually plays full ST anywhere

#

if you follow the link to WH and click the little Load / Export Build button, you'll see six diff builds for basically all occasions

broken whale
#

ohhh ty ill do that

brittle crow
edgy widget
#

but I'll go ahead and fix the link

#

JUST FOR YOU

compact knot
broken whale
#

❤️ sorry lol i was just confused bc im new to warr

compact knot
#

which thane has a much larger radius you can cleave with tclap > bladestorm

#

also just better 2t cleave in general

echo rapids
#

Thane can cheat on the cleave with bigger t clap range

brittle crow
#

dragons are supposed to be in 2t range? damn that trial tank was ass

edgy widget
#

and this is why

#

you're not there to tickle dragons, you're there to kill adds

compact knot
#

the boss is kinda hard to move in p1 and p2

#

idk if it even can move

#

you can still hit the second dragon with tclap though

edgy widget
#

they can, but unless your group is specifically going for ranks, you're probably gonna keep em separated

#

they'll get pushed in more during P3 out of necessity

edgy widget
#

so did my group

brittle crow
#

im wondering if thats why it felt like they had infinite hp

echo rapids
#

T clap range lets you hit all the little adds more easily

edgy widget
#

you might hit em a little with clap but I wouldn't count on it too much

brittle crow
#

word

compact knot
#

i think i was doing it pretty consistently

edgy widget
#

that's all on your tanks is what I mean

hot spindle
brittle crow
#

and slayer does better pure st?

edgy widget
#

strictly speaking they should be tanked at least 15 yards apart; if your tanks like you and keep them right at that range, you can cleave them

#

but more than likely, they're just gonna hold them wherever they want and make it a ranged cleave fight

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because fuck melee amirite

brittle crow
#

these r the things i think about as a tank that my tanks never think about for me

#

💔

edgy widget
#

if your tanks really love you, they'll pull the ground dragon in while adds are active

native wadi
#

Good morning boys, quick one, I have seen the catalyst items asBIS, while there are mastery hasta items drops in that slota

#

How the fuck are we absorbing crit now?

edgy widget
#

after a certain amount of haste/mastery, you don't want it as much anymore

native wadi
#

I wanna hit bis on the myth boots

echo rapids
#

Well duh, after all, warriors…scale

#

ducks

summer quail
lament lagoon
#

can u link the speciif dragon thane taents pls

echo rapids
#

Slayer in st feels like it has to be more careful about the rampage rage threshold to avoid running out of enrage, compared to thane, and not sure why

#

Tier set will be nice for that at least

nova ocean
#

guys can you explain what is going on here

native wadi
#

Nerf arms!

clever goblet
echo rapids
brittle crow
#

what does the 15yd range actually do

echo rapids
#

And the paladin fight is mostly a 2 target cleave fight

edgy widget
echo rapids
#

Oh snap is that a colossus sighting?

hot spindle
brittle crow
#

so is the idea that u just tank the damage buff for a bit?

edgy widget
#

yeah, I mean we're talking a few seconds

brittle crow
#

word

#

thanks archi now this makes me look like a team player and im more likely to get the raid tank spot

#

feels bad either way because either i have to keep giving suggestions to the tank, or i become the tank and ive used my 4 sparks already

lament lagoon
nocturne bluff
#

end of S1 day 2

#

got lucky on map, ended up with a 276 Main hand (haste mastery)

hot spindle
nocturne bluff
#

patchwerk + optimal

#

haven't done any heroic raids yet tho

#

that'll be tomorrow night

#

so fingers crossed

keen kindle
slim grotto
#

ST or cleave for Crown?

supple ocean
#

yo, i need help with prio, do i press clap/blast on st or not? good logging people press it too little it seems like

#

or is it whenever i just have 2 charges?

brittle crow
#

unless you have 2 charges

#

then u press it

#

also unless ur in avatar

#

then its prio

#

ish

#

u still press bb and ramp over it

#

(i didnt know this until i checked for you lol)

reef laurel
#

thunderblast on st bc lightning strikes can proc avatar, not clap in st

#

and yeah not during avatar as much

supple ocean
#

so during cds: rampage > bloodbath > blast when 2 charges > pretty much never execute and raging blow if anything else is available

#

or outside of cds as well for that matter

brittle crow
#

have u checked wowhead?

#

it tells u what we could tell u

reef laurel
brittle crow
#

tf u mean relax

#

im giving a suggestion

supple ocean
#

i did but wowhead guide actually is what made me confused, there are too many instances of blast

#

compared to logs

brittle crow
#

wym compared to logs

supple ocean
#

in terms of how many times good logging people press blast/clap in raid

reef laurel
#

prio is in order of priority, not cast count

brittle crow
#

well good logging people def arent pressing raging blow over blast

supple ocean
#

bruh i am not saying press raging blow over blast, i am just simply asking is there a time when i press blast instead of rampage or bb

brittle crow
#

yes

#

with 2 stacks

#

and if u wont overcap rage

supple ocean
#

ok thanks

frosty ibex
#

someone has idea what the reached ilevel we need from the vault ?

#

259+ ?

teal granite
#

What embelishment do we want on weapon thats crafted?

vocal thorn
#

@fleet sorrel ez win trade ty

fleet sorrel
#

unlucky

#

hunter might be op

vocal thorn
#

true

smoky vale
vocal thorn
#

roight

smoky vale
#

can i be your disciple

unreal onyx
#

Am I too bad but is it possible currently that we sometimes dont have anything to press

#

Except ww

native island
native island
vivid pollen
#

bruh is thane actually better than slayer in raid now

#

my body can't handle this kind of change

unreal onyx
#

Doesnt feel like it is but it certainly is on some bosses

forest berry
#

does the renown trinket still bugged when we sim it ??

lusty pike
#

Nope

shy knot
#

Rend on fury GOTTA GO

#

its so bad

#

Pressing that trash weak button with no effect

#

For like 1% dps

#

Onslaught died for this

blissful hound
#

Id be surprised if not

summer quail
#

slayer prob for the first few. which unfortunately for slayer enjoyers are the irrelevant bosses

unreal onyx
#

Slayer class theme >> thane class theme

forest berry
#

considering my 2nd highest stat is haste is it really a C tier trinket ???

plucky burrow
#

Hey guys how was fury doing in m+ beta thinking of coming back to play this game

dire canyon
#

guys why is Crucible of Erratic Energies trinket (voidstorm renown one) not included on the wowhead guide? it sims higher than any of the A tier choices, is the proc only good in open world or something?

lusty pike
#

I'd imagine because not a drop, limited upgrade potential

glossy lichen
#

are there sims when its buffed by party members?

#

does raidbots default to none?

dire canyon
lusty pike
pallid rapids
#

Because in a month that trinket will be stuck at a low ilvl while the better trinkets will not

dire canyon
#

i mean same with delve trinkets

#

and they are included in the guide

lusty pike
#

Delve can drop on hero, no?

hot shell
#

The stat procc itself is low. Compare that to a raid trink thatll give u 600 crit, and it scales with itemlevel. You will not be able to mythtrack it
Plus you have to considrr procchance. Not every trinket proccs the same

hot shell
#

I think i mixed up 2 people here too cause i ment that crusader trinket that was posted, not the voidstorm trinket you mentioned

pallid rapids
#

Just follow the robot

hot shell
forest berry
hot shell
forest berry
#

alright, simcraft is pretty new to me, ty for answering

hot shell
# dire canyon so simcraft is wrong?

The voidstorm trinket SHOULD NOT trigger any console upgrades in the raids. Did you check your sim for and voidlust buffs that shouldnt be there

reef laurel
full topaz
#

whats the highest ilvl yall seen so far

shy knot
#

Ngl I feel like slayer is trash

#

Mainly because of not baking rend into something

fossil hull
#

i thought puzzlebox is S tier lol

#

why is it simming lower 🙁

radiant plank
#

why is a 2min trinket bad on a class that gets its cds in 45s gaps

foggy urchin
#

hmmge

shy knot
#

Its bis in m+ maybe ?

#

For massive packs

fossil hull
#

yeah i did dungoen slice

shy knot
#

That shit is not optimal

fossil hull
#

but need to pre use on pulls so bit of a pain in the ass

shy knot
#

It was peak on Algethar academy pulls

fossil hull
#

it lines up nicely for first full room pull and then boss adds

radiant plank
#

:)

eternal sundial
#

Wasnt Box 3 mins or am i tripping

vague stump
#

question. I don't pvp at all I got very lucky in normal raid yesterday and got 2 tier set pieces so is it like super bis to get 1600 pvp and use my one cata charge for 4p or can I wait until next week when m+ releases I think I will be able to get 2k rating in a day or 2

eternal sundial
#

What do you need 4p for

#

Rwf?

vague stump
#

nothing really I mostly do M+ and CE raiding nothing major

eternal sundial
#

Wouldnt you then just make 4 set with hero pieces next week

#

From the m+ catalyst

vague stump
#

well because I now have 2 tier set peices I am now very low on tier set drops for raid w guild lol

vague stump
#

I mean I should be top but my DK and paladin guildies say otherwise

eternal sundial
#

Dont you just base that off of sims

#

Or is it a social credit System for yall

vague stump
#

social shit

eternal sundial
#

Ewwww

vague stump
#

yeah just rolls on shit you need pretty much

full topaz
#

am i a big pumper :o

eternal sundial
#

Well youll rip a tier set from vault and then have 4 set from m+ okayge

#

Idk i just hate committing stuff early if u dont have to

mighty hollow
#

Hey guys, how much myth crests can we get this week ?

full topaz
#

0 myth crest

#

only hero

vague stump
#

the way the cata works now with more drops once you get tier set in my head means you wanna pump it super early but maybe I am just capping

tiny seal
#

you can get myth crests from the delve boss which are uncapped

mighty hollow
#

We dont get any if we kill ?? boss ?

tiny seal
#

so technically you can get crests

full topaz
#

really

#

i killed the ?? boss

mighty hollow
#

Oh ok

full topaz
#

i mean ?

#

so im assuming the last one give myth?

eternal sundial
#

?? Allegedly gives them

tiny seal
#

yep

eternal sundial
#

From what u see on Twitter

full topaz
#

hmm was gonna ignore it ig ill finish it

#

whats the highest ilvl yall seen so far

sudden tusk
#

30 from ?? delve 5 from completting the boss.

#

i think last boss raid might give 10 or 15

full topaz
#

im at 255 and i alwasy push high keys so im tryna mid max

sudden tusk
#

paladins didnt give any

eternal sundial
#

@sudden tusk You got the famed slayer didnt u

#

Delve slayer Nemesis starlord whatever

sudden tusk
#

yeah i was like #20-30 i think

eternal sundial
#

Unemploid

#

(gz)

vague stump
sudden tusk
#

first thing i did on launch

vague stump
#

wth

tiny seal
sudden tusk
#

its onsidered the penultimate boss. so cosmos and midnight falls should drop myth crests

#

but i havent killed it myself so im not sure

tiny seal
#

15/15 like always

#

dunno if it got changed

sudden tusk
vague stump
#

I cant remember it was so long since I killed dimmy on heroic that I couldn't remember that was a thing

trail bane
#

and its actually last 2

#

Which is why Cosmos and Midnight Falls will drop higher crests

heavy dock
#

How hard is this raid on hc guys

#

Compared to manaforge

#

‘Hard’

trail bane
#

Tbh i dont remember how hard manaforge was. But maybe roughly the same? Some bosses maybe a bit harder than their equivalent from that raid?

#

Cosmos seems to be quite a bit harder than Saladbar was

analog matrix
hybrid willow
#

Yo, can someone educate me on how I can look up Slayer and Thane numbers on heroic raid bosses? Like where do you people get that information when you say "yo thane is better on this boss" you get me?

misty thunder
#

warcraftlogs

hybrid willow
#

yeah but where

misty thunder
#

click on the raid and select only fury war on specific boss

hybrid willow
#

There we go

#

thanks I got it now

trail bane
#

look at rankings on a specific boss, choose All Classes = warrior -> fury

frosty ibex
# full topaz

i really like the character pannel of toxiu , unfortunately i need to dl elvui

charred fiber
#

Fury rules guys

vague copper
#

Schh!

sand hedge
#

I preffer to go thane on all bosses ;p is it really such a big number diff. between slayer and thane? looked it up on warcrtaft logs and in top logs there was alwas some thane even when slayer dominated it?

vague copper
#

My monk sim like 200k more in AOE (5 target 1 min) so we suck... 😛

sand hedge
#

and one more question, in prepartion for the raid and right use of CDS, do you find out the info only from lorgs? or how can i somehow add the info to myself when to save dds and wait for adds etc?

misty thunder
#

I was thinking about going slayer for some bosses, if only to get a relief from thunderclap

#

after m0 spam 🙂

sand hedge
#

In the slayer builds, rend is not played right?

#

or is it part of the rotation ?

#

i have spamming ww to get cleave -_

#

*hate

misty thunder
#

every 5th is maybe not spamming

#

rend is dps increase but it is so small you can skip in not comfrotable

swift galleon
#

why are the values lower in simulationcraft? just a visual bug?

radiant plank
#

yes

#

dont trust tooltips

swift galleon
#

thats 100% confirmed?

limpid elbow
#

what options do you guys recommend? i focus on m+

frosty ibex
#

Someone is using talent Loadout ?

misty thunder
radiant plank
misty thunder
#

cause in m+ st is still important

swift galleon
radiant plank
#

the numbers in the report

#

Tooltips dont always scale or might display outdated info etc.

#

but the raw numbers are there

swift galleon
#

found it ty

naive umbra
#

hey guys, does anyone have a link for bis but without raid/catalyst?

shy knot
#

Isnt rend less dps increase than a race change ?

#

Literally worthless talent

undone flower
#

Yes

shy knot
#

I just press it instead of ww

#

But its worse than slam

undone flower
#

More value in AoE tho, but do whatever you want

tiny seal
#

with multiple targets its a whole other story with rend chill

shy knot
#

In aoe sure

#

Im talking pure ST

#

Also on cleave do you really wanna waste that gcd on rend tho

#

Unless its prolonged aoe

tiny seal
#

inside cds no

#

but outside cds with big packs it feels good

undone flower
white relic
#

you start spending champion crest on stuff like trinkets and weapons?

shy knot
#

Ill play thane in m+ anyway, slayer without the reap the storm spam is not it for me

undone flower
#

I think I will spend all my champ crest tonight before second raid night

#

But I’m still meditating on it tbf

naive umbra
#

hey guys, does anyone have a link for bis but without raid/catalyst?

glass musk
naive umbra
#

but it has Catalyst equips

undone flower
#

But you will likely have your set next week or the one after

gray plume
#

In logs is thunder clap and thunder blast kept under thunder clap?

#

im seeing players logs and their thunderclap numbers are so much higher than mine but hitting the same amount, im wondering if theyre just hitting thunder blast more than i am and thats why theyre bigger

#

(hitting same amount as in numbers of times pressed)

shy knot
#

Its separate in my logs

karmic geyser
#

my bros, are sims correct rn? cuz I just looted solarflare prism and sims shows it's weaker than withered saptor's paw and crucible of erratic energies even though bloodmallet shows the latter trinkets are lower in sims. Same goes to wowhead which shows prism as A tier trinket

dusky anchor
native wadi
#

I simmed belt

#

On tauren

#

Drakes belt sims higher

#

Not the catalyst one as the list

#

Is it only me?

#

In other races should be even more as tauren should increase crit value?

#

At work so i cant share sims but i cant find any logic

obtuse sentinel
#

How good is vessel of souls?

#

Trinket from Maisara

sleek oasis
#

Guilds warrior buff just up and left last night, how's the general vibe of fury so far? I mained fury in Undermine.

median umbra
#

It’s aight

open mountain
#

need more buffs to get not replaced by dks 😄

median umbra
#

fun if you like thunderclap spam tho

terse ether
#

whatsd the best curios for ?? \

obtuse sentinel
#

Is slayer dead rn?

#

I just use thane for everything now

#

Haven’t switched off the m+ talents even in raid and was doing top dps

open mountain
#

in normal u can play mt everywhere its fine

obtuse sentinel
#

Heroic should I be switching to slayer talents more?

#

There’s just a lot of cleave in almost every raid fight so I’ve been curious about that

vivid pollen
#

fights where adds aren't alive very long

#

slayer is better

#

dying in BS and OF and you aren't wasting globals on whirlwind

rich flame
#

As it looks right now you'd be playing slayer on 7 of the 9 fights

obtuse sentinel
#

What are the two where thane better?

vivid pollen
#

and if you are a gigachad you'd play slayer for 9/9

rich flame
#

Thane is better in consistent cleave like the paladin council and the two dragons

spare helm
#

Doesnt nearly every fight have adds to cleave down? Obv in Nor.al maybe HC they die super quick but what about Myth than

obtuse sentinel
#

Makes sense. I’m surprised it wouldn’t be used in Dreamrift considering that boss spawns like 7 mobs or something

vivid pollen
#

are the 2 dragons consistent cleave though?

rich flame
#

But who knows what mythic will look like, the adds on the tic tac toe boss will probably live longer so Thane might be good there

obtuse sentinel
#

Yeah I thought you keep the dragons apart

#

So it’s basically single target

vivid pollen
#

idk though

obtuse sentinel
#

Makes sense for Paladin council though

vivid pollen
#

would depend on raid comp

spare helm
broken whale
#

Anyone know any good povs to watch to learn how to play on the current raid?

rich flame
#

From what I've seen there's positioning where you can have both dragons apart with both tanks almost back to back, like a V with the raid in the middle

broken whale
#

Im doing awful dmg

spare helm
#

Well except vorasius where i decided to yeet of a cliff

#

Lol

vivid pollen
obtuse sentinel
spare helm
#

I want myth raid 🥹

vivid pollen
#

what is crit playing?

obtuse sentinel
#

Fury warrior

vivid pollen
#

...

#

the hero tree

obtuse sentinel
#

I forgor

broken whale
#

Can you link the stream? Nothing comes up when I type critakill on twitch

vivid pollen
#

isn't it critcake?

#

idk

obtuse sentinel
#

Critcake*

broken whale
#

Ah ok

undone flower
#

Critakill is a cooler name tbf monkahmm

rich flame
#

I do have a question on the recommended talents I see everywhere, is there a specific reason why we're not taking enrage regeneration? Or is it just for greedy damage

vivid pollen
#

I take enraged regen

#

the haters can ligma

#

99 parse on crown bby

rich flame
#

I've been too, I just wanna know why

radiant plank
obtuse sentinel
#

Nobody else can use that name now

undone flower
#

I don’t take ER, bc I’m not afraid of normal or heroic raid dmg

vivid pollen
#

depending on your healers, your mileage may vary

obtuse sentinel
#

As fury we never die ever and if we do it’s everyone else’s problem. Greed damage and ignore your hp, pal

#

Rally for yourself if you get worried keks

undone flower
#

Don’t ignore your hp, just press a pot or IV if sub 50% health and you will need ER in the next lifetime

broken whale
obtuse sentinel
#

This is what big healer wants you to worry about

wild mural
spare helm
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Dump question
There is this qchievement when u get 4 piece u get catalyst charges easier
Does that count for Main to or ONLY for Alts?

rich flame
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Main only I believe

obtuse sentinel
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Your alts will basically have the same amount all the time as your main anyways

spare helm
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Its acc wide achievemnt

undone flower
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Snoredih is a mf warlock no ?

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And is he a good pov ?

smoky vale
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i was sleeping watching bro play demo

obtuse sentinel
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Just watch me play

smoky vale
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who

carmine silo
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just a quick question

broken whale
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Yeah i more meant warrior pov bc im new to the class and I wanna see how people use their cds

carmine silo
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do we play thane or slayer in raid

obtuse sentinel
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But gotta swap to slayer for most fights in heroic according to discord

undone flower
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I played slayer for most of normal

vivid pollen
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I did slayer all of normal

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went very smoothly

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but I didn't know thane was even an option at that point