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whichmissive do we use
probably feverflare which i think is hastemast but you can sim it
Is the pawn addon reliable when it comes to upgrades of non trinket slots?
guys just checked wowhead and they are not taking enraged regeneration, is there a reason for this ?
dps loss
oh lol then
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so i was chosen as the sacrifice for crown of the cosmos but got one shot by the boss. how do i live
is dungeon slice working rn
or do i sim patchwerk 5
got another FUCKING trinket
my hero piece from delves is a trinket
2 trinkets from prey, all trinkets from delves, trinket from my map
im going to trink myself
I’ll take a trink
I've just been doing 5 tar 5m
Stance mastery is better
stupid question but weapon type dont really mater, right?
correct. as long as 2h strength then you're all good
sweet
Is it recommended to wait until your Delve Journey Renown level 4 before using the Map for the Hero Track piece in a Tier 8 Delve?
Says the stash rewards Myth Crests with the map if you have that renown reward unlocked.
But I guess that would work similarly to how it did last season in TWW where it had to be a Tier 11 Delve to get the most Myth Crests rewarded.
Keep em, usually blizzard does a trinket tuning pass during progression
Speaking of trinkets I wish the fun kickball backpack did more damage for the effort
so outside of fallen-king, thane and slayer are kinda even with current gear tuning? Was expecting to see people play slayer more on warcraftlogs
if you take 1 look at the bosses you would know it's looking like a primarily thane tier
pretty much every boss has some form of cleave/aoe
yeah but I thought Slayer is supposed to beat out thane on small 2-3 target cleaves too
i would even say that if you dont play thane on a boss you just dont bring a dps warrior at all
Why does crucible sim so high?
it barely beats thane on 1 target
thanks for the info.
Yeah send em
Decline in value fast next week
no reason not to spend champ, you get 3/6H from keys next week so wont be doing the weird, get 1 extra level of gear like we did with vet crests
is puzzle box ass or is the sim off?
thank god, fuck box
I don’t even see the trinket, I’m not using it
im more likely to play thane than use box (not at all likely)
Hi guys, quick question we do use the 4 sparks to craft the 259 Blood Knights Warblade as fury this week right?
should we craft this now?
oh we DO have bloodmallet
Both
Sim uses puzzlebox after reck instead of before, which is ~1% worse
But puzzlebox is still not very good
just go to top gear and add it to your profile at whatever ilevel you want and sim to see if you like it
you guys drop fresh meat for ER?
ill wait to see what the gods tell us if we ever end up with a point where ER is actually something I need, we're a long way from that
we should utilize it for actual prog
are all the "Deals some damage" embellishments traps? theyre always like 0.003% of dmg.
just was curious
i have to assume there is a better drop than fresh meat cause then you're also losing spite and CSHB, im gonna guess we drop executioner's wrath but who knows
Just messed up my imports on accident and reset my UI. How do I get rid of the default rampage lines showing up beside my char?
yall sending it on champ/vet upgrades?
yeah, be pretty hard to mess up spending champ/vet
well
spend vet on 240+
spend champ on 250+
or just send them on whatever becuase it wont matter in about 2 weeks
1 week*
LOL tru
true just trying to squeeze out ilvl
Am I insane for waiting for the Bloomforge Greataxe to be craftable. I have issues settling for the Sword.
post in trade someone might have it?
we can hold bladestorm for reck but never hold reck right
our bis stil alnseer
yes
"spell alert opacity" to 0 in options
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Does the tier set change our priority to rampage from bloodthirst during reck?
got beat to the punch

is the word bloodthirst mentioned anywhere in these sacred texts
oh wait thought question said from ramp to bt
but its always been ramp above almost everything anyway
rip
so not like much changed dont think
should just be the same stuff
pmuch dont have a choice but to hit ramp either every other global or sometimes one out of 3 globals
sometimes even 2/3 tbh
whats the best crafted weapon for fury does it matter ?
all the same dont matter
gg
minus 80 billion champ crests on the normal one
ok so thoughts on sending hero track on 1 trinket right cuz you would need 2 myth trinkets to "save" on them anyway, and that'll prolly take a while, only thing that may short term be wasted is just 20 hero's cuz you farm 3/6h from m+ next week
but kinda feel like still slam it
nah
180 heros this week cluegi
20s 20
20dollars is 20 dollars
But what about odyns fury : 🤔
prolly doesnt move much either
especially since you get cdr
its bit wasteful to hold it for reck and stuff
hey guys dumb question i can either craft blood knight or blood knight mercy right?
so you prolly just insta send on cd
a 2hand strength weapon
all buttons on cooldown In the right order
profit
idk what blood knight by itself is
forgot to type in blood knight warblade
is this bis
prolly pretty good idk about bis
can always just sim droptimizer to see how much better other trinks are
like first boss of raid trink i think is the main comparison
haste on use vs perma haste
imagine the on use still better but think it'd be decently close
any recommended builds for raid prog? what cleanest way to get enraged regen without dropping whirlwind
dropping massacre probably
thats such a feels bad
yeah i have no idea why this is a talent node. was fine as a baseline
will we get 30 myth every time we kill him or was that a one pop ?
Irrc it was myth evrey time for zekvir
But I think they patched it
So probably one pop?
yeah no shot we just cap myth crests face tanking an easy delve boss
Guys, bloodmallet or wowhead guide for trinket.. they are so diferent lol
gg nice shield
think u could spend some adventurers on that ring tho B)
wicked mog too
You right. I was really hoping I could replace it hahah
Ty. Naked mog is simple. Optimal.
So did I miss something
Or did we get absolute screwed on defensives
Tf is that ER placement in our tree
how good is this? I didn't see it in any list
I use that and heart of wind or whatever
Didnt get no loot from raid so need to hold onto it :p
so if we crafted a 259 weapon, when we "Recraft" it we're using 80 myth crests right?
Think it's hero
Im a little slow, so we don't have access to gilded from delves this week right?
Mines 252 with no crests
Got 11, ran a bountiful, no gilded( im rank 2)
i was told we shouldnt use hero crests when crafting it cause we'd be wasting 80 hero crests
Gilded myth crests starts at Rank 4 of the journey, otherwise it's Hero
yes
do no t use hero crests to recraft
I just got this in a delve and Berserker Rage negates the fear effect so... it seems pretty solid considering 164 to all stats on a 2 min CD.
i don't think berserker rage negates that effect. it's horrify not fear
Ah shoot you're right. I was in a delve and Valeera kept insta-dispelling the horrify so I never really felt it lol. Dammit.
is this a joke in the fury wowhead
No I think some of the wowhead shared components get a little fucky under the hood
that is kinda funny tho
Did you craft wep bowl
Hey all, crafted a 2h wep already what should second craft be
Fastest way to farm Veteran Crests? Trying to upgrade pieces to save the 40 champion crests getting to 3/6 Champ
I did yes
wrists or cloak with embellishment, you can do without sparks this week using vet crests
Okay so dont craft second spark
if you crafted weapon you don't have any sparks to craft with
Should I be crafting my weapon with 80 heroic crest?
Tclap applies rend for you
No one's sundering either....
pvp wrists to add a socket specifically and no need for crests
@sullen dove rate the thane M+ spec sim
🫴🫴
thinking of picking up fury, does it avoid the "boring no dmg without your 1min CD" design of most dps atm?
not too much other than thanes "do fun cool damage during cds" lasts like 20-25 seconds every 45-60s
so sorta half uptime of banging
on aoe at least
st kinda who cares
It's not nearly as spikey as sub rogue/dk
got it -- thanks! How's it feel for leveling/solo content?
It's pretty chill, we're pretty tanky and have decent enough on-demand damage
And cds are decent
yo i got champ alnser
@waxen vigil
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I'm getting gapped hard by surv hunters in my heroic raid, am I just bad?
boys whats the prio for ST
Why is there no simcraft profile for warriors yet (other than prot)
Anyone know why delve trinkets aren't on bloodmallet? I got that glorious crusaders keepsake at 259 -.- doesn't sim great but got me wondering
If you already simmed it and it wasn't good, why do you need bloodmallet
got me wondering
wondering what?
why the delve trinkets aren't on bloodmallet
so I can know before I get something if it's likely going to be good or not
any danders frames users? https://i.imgur.com/yXqdTF2.png
trying to fix this opacity when out of range
can't quite find the setting
if you need a really rough estimation you can use liquid armory https://liquidarmory.com/trinket-tracker?wowClass=Warrior&wowSpec=Fury but really the answer is just to sim your character
can someone with rlly good logs sned it to me?
Why is bladestorm not on this priority list?
Outside of cooldowns?
On vaelgor and ezzorak any1 can help me target the ads better?
is there a macro or somthing
You hold bladestorm up to 30s to pair with reck in single target
I think the "inside cooldowns" is mostly just to handle the BB/CB stuff so it doesn't clutter the rotation
I mean if reck is like 45s cd remaining you'd still send BS as long as you're enraged
is there any specific reason why impetus is stated as the best crafted option instead of, say, 2H mace or sword?
But because you get so much less BS cdr now, it's more worth delaying it a bit to pair with reck
nah just the first 2h he saw probably
any of the 2h str crafts should be the exact same dps, it's just whatever is cheapest or looks the best
sword, axe, mace should all be identical dps
got you, thanks
bigbowwl are you ready for gio sotd
So let's say st boss, reck is at 30 seconds but Ur BS is up. Id hold it?
do we still need to cancelaura whirlwind on ST fights?
Hey where did you see what's the best options craft ? simc?
just the guides on wh and icy
ok ty
in single target yes you'd hold BS if reck cd is <= 30s
is it worth sending hero crests onto crafted weppy?
that's only with rampaging ruin which you should never take
no
aight
nope
Slayer oesnt use Avatar?
not if you run heroic
Just craft no crests then go max ilvl next week with m+
No slayer uses bladestorm
right on
it's a choice node now
Guys am I right with system, if we upgrade like veteran chest 5/5 we get 50% on our alt on chest upgrades, or we need upgrade every veteran slot gear 5/5 for getting 50%on alt?
i think it should be every slot but im not sure
Guide says send vet and champ crests cuz moot next week. Save heroic
It's when you get the achievement for finishing a track in every slot
That's when Ur alts get discount
250 is the level I think
250 In every slot I believe
oh okay ty
That’s hard because we swap gear fast now
@dapper goblet you are cringe
balanced class btw
they didnt let me move
30 sec??
holy fuc
you dont need to move to disarm
so in raid i hold it until adds p much
they ccd me bud
trinket??
double trinket
gg
preemptive spell reflect hoj
guaranteed xeos insta sent that shit on you
Are you asking about the "to fill rotation"?
xeos pink bandwagoner btw
that when nothing else is avalaible i raging blow
Yeah pretty much, then if no raging blows left you whirl
still undecided on what i'm playing
they saw my name got bricked and focused me
You don't spend much time down that low on priority list
did make for a cinema screenshot
you avatar leaped in
first global
but like actually..
Also curious because idk how this idle of the loa or crucible of erratic energies is simming so well compared to solarflare prism which is meant to be pretty good :
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/prBcE4QEDvav9erbwMQNNv
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dfYvxCeuymf2auBhTn9ggP
Idk if there's anything to learn from this but yeah I was surprised my 250 war loa held up vs a 259 solarflare prism
I leaped with spear actually
holy chad
whats a spear do tho
u just use that shit when someone tries to run away from you no
that shit is not a dmg cd
i assume its a good idea to spend hero/myth dawncrest on recrafting the 259 2H while its early in the season/no other weapons are available?
spear is a gigachad move
do not spend hero on that ever
myths next week
It reminds us of the utility they gave us for a week on beta before deleting it and nerfing the other things they gave us
myth craft
oh its better to jump to myth crests?
anyone else
chudge
my guild is unsure of cata charge acquisition
lmk how it goes
so i know if im allowed to do that or not
i got a cata cchract from a bountiful delve
like it says "youll get charges from doin stuff"
catalyze if it fulfills 4 pc
i was told to never whirlwind but use thunderclap instead
thane
if i can execute then execute is always no.1 priority right? in aoe and in single target aswell
not number 1 but its good
@slim coral i asked in ur twitch chat but had to go, For the adds on Vealgor and ezzorak they die so quick and its hard for me to target close ones to me and tab seems to targets ones far away... any good tech for that like macro or somthing
on heroic
that should be your big dam
Save odyns
ig you can turn on action targeting
you just focus the dragon as prio
for our raid the tanks drag the dragon on top fo the ads
so I can cleave off boss
^^
but you really wanna use OF on the ads
ya clearly not number 1 there
yea idk the ads are far away in our raid
rampage and bloodthirst are higher
You can rotate reck and OF before the purple circles
but if you cant press those then execute is next
it clearly states that whenever it is possible i should use it
at a lower priority than the spells above it
We straight up abuse that fight
yeah i think this is good
simplified means simplified
ik its not sd
fury is very situational at all times
all you can really do is use OF
omg it actually does so much fucking damage
tab targetting them isnt efficient
odyns getting gutted bros
nerubar 2.0
OF is number 1 dam on that fight
says you, I run to the middle as soon as they spawn and start CLAPPIN
rank 6 tonight, but our tanks don't love me enough to pull dragons in
Guys which potion should I be using Potion of Recklessness or Light's Potential?
no p1/2 dragon cleave either
if you have really low/no vers, you can use Reck
otherwise just use light
or whichever is cheaper
Thanks!
I did convince our BDK to grip adds onto me, but they're mostly dead by then anyway
I tired
tried.
"they're coming anyways"
most groups will have them dead by then anyway, I just use it to try to stay a little closer to the dargon to reduce movement time
but yeah, basically just line up cooldowns, bank blast charges when you don't have cooldowns, and clap your lil heart out
is it 2p or 4p that cata charges start droping in m+?
4p
Honestly we have it so easy on that fight. Break tether? charge to other boss
interpose works p well too
this paladin fight is lowk ass cheeks
leap works, but you might wanna save it for bad overlaps if you get breath right after
you can just kinda walk outta the tether on dragon
With charge
we had that happen tonight, but our pro gamer Mistweaver saved the pull with Revival
just put interpose and leap on same macro
Used to have intervene
#showtooltip
/cast [mod:shift,@cursor] Interpose; [@cursor] Heroic Leap
Mmm i guess but if you misclick it will just leap yeh?
its good if you're good at keeping them stacked
sounds annoying, i just have a leap at mouse macro
also wrecking throw absolutely rips through the shield
that is
Is that the pld mount shield
Is her name senn?
Just insta delete shield?
With wreck
Also was there any fight worth running slayer on
They all seem to be mostly thane
Apart from mayb saladman
no, but it does a lot of damage
with a shift modifier to interpose at mousover on ally
first three are all slayer imo
Oh really
easily
might change on Mythic
hey sir do you know where can i see for each class the priority spell rotation ?
Interesting i thought the tic tac toe one would lean in thanes favour
in multiple target and single
wowhead/icy-veins/maxroll have guides for all classes
Have to do some log review later and copy others homework
Uhh is it worth holding odyns fury on any of these fights btw
pad some damage, send it on aoe packs 
i feel like i barely get to hit the shield and it breaks
Imperator - Slayer is better for high dps groups, but you need lucky Bladestorm CDR or you just get cucked
- Vorasius - adds split up and don't live long anyhow, so I think Slayer is better but it's probably close
- Fallen-King - Slayer, since ther'es no real cleave
- Double Dragons - Thane
- Lightblind - Thane
- Cosmos - Thane has more P1 add pad, but Slayer is better for actually beating the fight
- Chimaerus - can go either way, but I think Thane generally aligns better
my guild is more casual semi ish, so i have to anyways 
its good pad so it works out fine
i personally just cant do good on slayer this season for some reason, thane even in ST just does more dps for me
i did slayer for chimaerus it felt good
Depends on your group and how well they prio dam swap, but Wrecking Throw is the single highest damage ability in the game vs that shield and is available for every one so... why wouldn't you?
Aight sick write up thanks
thats true.
its also in the #dps-faq guides and #1237307390865571890 links

never target swap off the dragons
ok that was a long ass time ago
oh well
press OF and win
At this point i wouldnt be surprised
They were like better hotfix unholy cant have them being average for a day. Meanwhile with arms
Accurate they are only doing slightly more then prot
beat by bear with a giant cartoon mallet
Can I ask, in dungeons u have thunder clap also on 1 position dps? On me it’s like rampage-thunder blast-bt-thunder clap and idk how ppls have biggest dps on thunder clap
by pressing it on cd
try putting it on your bars in order of prio maybe
Clap and Blast deal practically the same amount of direct damage
- Blast triggers a couple valuable secondary effects, which makes it better overall
- Clap gets cast a lot more often, which causes it to contribute a higher percentage of your overall damage
Cooldown timings on chimeraus are so awkward
I press it only during cooldowns when 6+targets and outside for ww buff, correct?
no
wasn't too bad for me, just make sure you're in group 2
- CD on the pull
- if you're lucky your CDs will come back up by the time adds get busted out, though this will probably happen less often the more gear we get
- your CDs should be back up in time for group 2 to go down
boys do we go Thane for Fallen king ?
no
largely incorrect
I mean you can, but no ned to
oh got confused
I read it on wowhead
i meant Vlegor
dragons then yes
true but also wowhead was missing like half of the mechanics until today
Hey, is 43 casts of raging blow / 10 of crushing blow in a 6 min fight me using it too much ?
Ye that’s why I asked how I should use it because I saw top dps ppls thunder clap, and when I sim also top dps clap
clap it up!
Always press when up?
If it means you gotta put it on your 1 key go for it
Ye ofc, but I try understand prio for clapping
I was group 1 and it was awkward
just follow the prio guide
Ended up just cooldowns on Pull and wing it lol
if you're G1 I feel like you just hold CDs if you wanna rank
but you really wanna be in G2 if you can
in Archi we trust
seem off
what about them seems off
whats wrong with them
considering every one including many top playeres use his talents enlighten us
why am i not doing top damage with the talents grrrr
im shitting on dungs
just was curiosu
talents fine, i top dps all the time
holy chadge
my dps sucks 🙁
why it suck
currently 248.. getting outdps by others
Do none of the thane builds take stance mastery?
correct
so in most fights for raid, are we supposed to save cds for adds?
can probably path to it but youd have to lsoe something
im super new to warrior
Yikes
you would probably have to lose crushing force or something alike
im not going to lie you dont even need it
thane is tanky as fuck
Haha yeah it is
Word
oh also another question, in the faq here, the thane raid build doesnt use improved whirlwind, is that intentional?
Hi, I was about to craft my 2H sword, but while checking the Icy Veins Fury gear guide, I noticed that a crafted polearm is listed as BiS. Now I’m a bit confused — could anyone clarify this?
weapon type doesnt matter
there is no difference between crafting the polearm and crafting the sword
archi rolled the dice and it landed on polearm
oh ok thx u
probably a mistake

How fucking crazy is it that unholy is bad for 1-2 days and insta get hotfixed while arms has been unplayable sense xpac launch. What is blizzards obsession with that spec?
Wotlk and dk was the best point in wow hands down. Dk gets the love ezpz
1800 done
W
Is there a spell reflect list going
yeah its on maxroll
Ta
Our unholy was getting 99/100 parses tonight, all the guilds that did heroic lasts night did to before the buffs lol
is this for chimaerus
Yeah
and for slayer or thane? or is it talking about reck so it dont matter
this also happened to me
W buffs
(i have 4 100s and all of them are fake
He was like third in first boss and got a 100, took a minute to realize how
All of them are fake
Witch is funny
there is probably someone else that beat him like they beat me
Imp WW doesn't do anything for Thane other than enable cleave
the rage generation comes from Crashing Thunder
yo archi while ur here
how much dps do i lose by just playing straight thane in raid instead of switching per fight
not much
yes but the description says its a multitarget build no?
it doesnt want cleave?
you gain on some fights and lose on others
well you said raid build, which one are we talking
the raid one
there are a lot of raid builds my friend
Thane feels more comfortable than I thought
it shows this
like lose but still purple parse lose?
or notably parsing less lose
if you play good you can 100 on either hero talent
well
if you have the gear
Yeah that's cause I originally had pure ST builds there, but then changed it to the thane raid MT build since Thane never actually plays full ST anywhere
if you follow the link to WH and click the little Load / Export Build button, you'll see six diff builds for basically all occasions
ohhh ty ill do that
i dont get why slayer/thane is recommended for some fights over others
like yea i get why u play thane on vanguard, but why thane on dragons?
the burst cleave on dragons tends to be more spread out
❤️ sorry lol i was just confused bc im new to warr
which thane has a much larger radius you can cleave with tclap > bladestorm
also just better 2t cleave in general
this is why
Thane can cheat on the cleave with bigger t clap range
dragons are supposed to be in 2t range? damn that trial tank was ass
the boss is kinda hard to move in p1 and p2
idk if it even can move
you can still hit the second dragon with tclap though
they can, but unless your group is specifically going for ranks, you're probably gonna keep em separated
they'll get pushed in more during P3 out of necessity
we had em separated, yea
so did my group
im wondering if thats why it felt like they had infinite hp
T clap range lets you hit all the little adds more easily
you might hit em a little with clap but I wouldn't count on it too much
word
i think i was doing it pretty consistently
that's all on your tanks is what I mean
hey guys im new to this discord - got a question, please dont laugh at me 😄
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wz53AC3CK5E3ZGBUyc9diV
while wowhead lists puzzle box as s-tier trinket, in sim it doesnt really show its advantages, can anyone tell me why that is?
and slayer does better pure st?
strictly speaking they should be tanked at least 15 yards apart; if your tanks like you and keep them right at that range, you can cleave them
but more than likely, they're just gonna hold them wherever they want and make it a ranged cleave fight
because fuck melee amirite
these r the things i think about as a tank that my tanks never think about for me
💔
if your tanks really love you, they'll pull the ground dragon in while adds are active
Good morning boys, quick one, I have seen the catalyst items asBIS, while there are mastery hasta items drops in that slota
How the fuck are we absorbing crit now?
after a certain amount of haste/mastery, you don't want it as much anymore
I wanna hit bis on the myth boots
the answer is that puzzle is very good with cds on aoe. it's not a great st trinket
i see, thanks!
can u link the speciif dragon thane taents pls
Slayer in st feels like it has to be more careful about the rampage rage threshold to avoid running out of enrage, compared to thane, and not sure why
Tier set will be nice for that at least
guys can you explain what is going on here
Nerf arms!
don't give them any ideas
Yeah, Shirley is a beast
doesnt this trash the 15yd range idea
what does the 15yd range actually do
And the paladin fight is mostly a 2 target cleave fight
100% damage buff; it's not as bad as it sounds though - same buff they get when their health is 10% apart
tyvm
Oh snap is that a colossus sighting?
where is this report from?
so is the idea that u just tank the damage buff for a bit?
yeah, I mean we're talking a few seconds
word
thanks archi now this makes me look like a team player and im more likely to get the raid tank spot
feels bad either way because either i have to keep giving suggestions to the tank, or i become the tank and ive used my 4 sparks already
Where do i find this sectioon in WH
are those with all raid buffs?
yes
patchwerk + optimal
haven't done any heroic raids yet tho
that'll be tomorrow night
so fingers crossed
Arms is good on that fight because its practically 100% uptime on 2 targets
ST or cleave for Crown?
yo, i need help with prio, do i press clap/blast on st or not? good logging people press it too little it seems like
or is it whenever i just have 2 charges?
blast in st is filler
unless you have 2 charges
then u press it
also unless ur in avatar
then its prio
ish
u still press bb and ramp over it
(i didnt know this until i checked for you lol)
thunderblast on st bc lightning strikes can proc avatar, not clap in st
and yeah not during avatar as much
so during cds: rampage > bloodbath > blast when 2 charges > pretty much never execute and raging blow if anything else is available
or outside of cds as well for that matter
relax lol
i did but wowhead guide actually is what made me confused, there are too many instances of blast
compared to logs
wym compared to logs
in terms of how many times good logging people press blast/clap in raid
prio is in order of priority, not cast count
well good logging people def arent pressing raging blow over blast
bruh i am not saying press raging blow over blast, i am just simply asking is there a time when i press blast instead of rampage or bb
ok thanks
What embelishment do we want on weapon thats crafted?
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true
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Am I too bad but is it possible currently that we sometimes dont have anything to press
Except ww
Darkmoon sigil: Hunt. It’s all on wowhead
That is correct. When we get more haste this will probably not be the case anymore. But now it is
bruh is thane actually better than slayer in raid now
my body can't handle this kind of change
Doesnt feel like it is but it certainly is on some bosses
does the renown trinket still bugged when we sim it ??
Nope
Rend on fury GOTTA GO
its so bad
Pressing that trash weak button with no effect
For like 1% dps
Onslaught died for this
On mythic it will very likely be better on most bosses
Id be surprised if not
slayer prob for the first few. which unfortunately for slayer enjoyers are the irrelevant bosses
Slayer class theme >> thane class theme
considering my 2nd highest stat is haste is it really a C tier trinket ???
Hey guys how was fury doing in m+ beta thinking of coming back to play this game
guys why is Crucible of Erratic Energies trinket (voidstorm renown one) not included on the wowhead guide? it sims higher than any of the A tier choices, is the proc only good in open world or something?
I'd imagine because not a drop, limited upgrade potential
Yeah I want this to be good too
are there sims when its buffed by party members?
does raidbots default to none?
that makes no sense, how is a quest reward anyone can get 100% more limited than random trinket drops from instances
Can you get it on hero track and above?
Because in a month that trinket will be stuck at a low ilvl while the better trinkets will not
Exactly
Delve can drop on hero, no?
The stat procc itself is low. Compare that to a raid trink thatll give u 600 crit, and it scales with itemlevel. You will not be able to mythtrack it
Plus you have to considrr procchance. Not every trinket proccs the same
so simcraft is wrong?
aight
I think i mixed up 2 people here too cause i ment that crusader trinket that was posted, not the voidstorm trinket you mentioned
Just follow the robot
I meant this. Sorry for confusion
does raibots take stats procc chance in consideration ?? if so i should 100% trust the website i guess
It does. If you go thru the combat log of the bott u can bufftrack for an estimated uptime
alright, simcraft is pretty new to me, ty for answering
The voidstorm trinket SHOULD NOT trigger any console upgrades in the raids. Did you check your sim for and voidlust buffs that shouldnt be there
are you simming mythic gear? bis list is for top gear, not capped champ gear from first week questline
whats the highest ilvl yall seen so far
why is a 2min trinket bad on a class that gets its cds in 45s gaps
hmmge
yeah i did dungoen slice
That shit is not optimal
this tribnket had been bis even in previous xpacs
but need to pre use on pulls so bit of a pain in the ass
It was peak on Algethar academy pulls
it lines up nicely for first full room pull and then boss adds
In the previous expac its cooldown was 1.5minutes
:)
Wasnt Box 3 mins or am i tripping
question. I don't pvp at all I got very lucky in normal raid yesterday and got 2 tier set pieces so is it like super bis to get 1600 pvp and use my one cata charge for 4p or can I wait until next week when m+ releases I think I will be able to get 2k rating in a day or 2
nothing really I mostly do M+ and CE raiding nothing major
Wouldnt you then just make 4 set with hero pieces next week
From the m+ catalyst
well because I now have 2 tier set peices I am now very low on tier set drops for raid w guild lol
I mean I should be top but my DK and paladin guildies say otherwise
social shit
Ewwww
yeah just rolls on shit you need pretty much
Well youll rip a tier set from vault and then have 4 set from m+ 
Idk i just hate committing stuff early if u dont have to
Hey guys, how much myth crests can we get this week ?
the way the cata works now with more drops once you get tier set in my head means you wanna pump it super early but maybe I am just capping
you can get myth crests from the delve boss which are uncapped
We dont get any if we kill ?? boss ?
so technically you can get crests
Oh ok
?? Allegedly gives them
yep
From what u see on Twitter
30 from ?? delve 5 from completting the boss.
i think last boss raid might give 10 or 15
im at 255 and i alwasy push high keys so im tryna mid max
paladins didnt give any
@sudden tusk You got the famed slayer didnt u
Delve slayer Nemesis starlord whatever
yeah i was like #20-30 i think
wait hero last boss drops myth crests?
first thing i did on launch
wth
every time
its onsidered the penultimate boss. so cosmos and midnight falls should drop myth crests
but i havent killed it myself so im not sure
1800 on the warrior done now its time to get 2100 on the hunter
I cant remember it was so long since I killed dimmy on heroic that I couldn't remember that was a thing
and normal last boss drops hero crests
and its actually last 2
Which is why Cosmos and Midnight Falls will drop higher crests
Tbh i dont remember how hard manaforge was. But maybe roughly the same? Some bosses maybe a bit harder than their equivalent from that raid?
Cosmos seems to be quite a bit harder than Saladbar was
Fury thane is top 5 melee specc , maybe top 3
Yo, can someone educate me on how I can look up Slayer and Thane numbers on heroic raid bosses? Like where do you people get that information when you say "yo thane is better on this boss" you get me?
warcraftlogs
yeah but where
click on the raid and select only fury war on specific boss
look at rankings on a specific boss, choose All Classes = warrior -> fury
i really like the character pannel of toxiu , unfortunately i need to dl elvui
Fury rules guys
Schh!
I preffer to go thane on all bosses ;p is it really such a big number diff. between slayer and thane? looked it up on warcrtaft logs and in top logs there was alwas some thane even when slayer dominated it?
My monk sim like 200k more in AOE (5 target 1 min) so we suck... 😛
and one more question, in prepartion for the raid and right use of CDS, do you find out the info only from lorgs? or how can i somehow add the info to myself when to save dds and wait for adds etc?
yes, the diff seems small in nm/hc
I was thinking about going slayer for some bosses, if only to get a relief from thunderclap
after m0 spam 🙂
In the slayer builds, rend is not played right?
or is it part of the rotation ?
i have spamming ww to get cleave -_
*hate
every 5th is maybe not spamming
rend is dps increase but it is so small you can skip in not comfrotable
why are the values lower in simulationcraft? just a visual bug?
thats 100% confirmed?
what options do you guys recommend? i focus on m+
Someone is using talent Loadout ?
I do 1 target 5 min, 5 targets 1 min and 5 targets 5 min - and then I use judgment after that
tooltips are bad, true value is in the html report
cause in m+ st is still important
i got the tooltip from HTML report? or where to look for that
the numbers in the report
Tooltips dont always scale or might display outdated info etc.
but the raw numbers are there
found it ty
hey guys, does anyone have a link for bis but without raid/catalyst?
Yes
More value in AoE tho, but do whatever you want
with multiple targets its a whole other story with rend chill
In aoe sure
Im talking pure ST
Also on cleave do you really wanna waste that gcd on rend tho
Unless its prolonged aoe
In my mind if it doesn’t last more than 15 sec, no
you start spending champion crest on stuff like trinkets and weapons?
Ill play thane in m+ anyway, slayer without the reap the storm spam is not it for me
I think I will spend all my champ crest tonight before second raid night
But I’m still meditating on it tbf
hey guys, does anyone have a link for bis but without raid/catalyst?
If you’re just wanting Mythic plus list. Method has one
but it has Catalyst equips
But you will likely have your set next week or the one after
In logs is thunder clap and thunder blast kept under thunder clap?
im seeing players logs and their thunderclap numbers are so much higher than mine but hitting the same amount, im wondering if theyre just hitting thunder blast more than i am and thats why theyre bigger
(hitting same amount as in numbers of times pressed)
Its separate in my logs
my bros, are sims correct rn? cuz I just looted solarflare prism and sims shows it's weaker than withered saptor's paw and crucible of erratic energies even though bloodmallet shows the latter trinkets are lower in sims. Same goes to wowhead which shows prism as A tier trinket
same for me
same, something weird , i feel like we scale different now with haste
I simmed belt
On tauren
Drakes belt sims higher
Not the catalyst one as the list
Is it only me?
In other races should be even more as tauren should increase crit value?
At work so i cant share sims but i cant find any logic
Guilds warrior buff just up and left last night, how's the general vibe of fury so far? I mained fury in Undermine.
It’s aight
need more buffs to get not replaced by dks 😄
fun if you like thunderclap spam tho
whatsd the best curios for ?? \
Is slayer dead rn?
I just use thane for everything now
Haven’t switched off the m+ talents even in raid and was doing top dps
in normal u can play mt everywhere its fine
Heroic should I be switching to slayer talents more?
There’s just a lot of cleave in almost every raid fight so I’ve been curious about that
fights where adds aren't alive very long
slayer is better
dying in BS and OF and you aren't wasting globals on whirlwind
As it looks right now you'd be playing slayer on 7 of the 9 fights
What are the two where thane better?
and if you are a gigachad you'd play slayer for 9/9
Thane is better in consistent cleave like the paladin council and the two dragons
Doesnt nearly every fight have adds to cleave down? Obv in Nor.al maybe HC they die super quick but what about Myth than
Makes sense. I’m surprised it wouldn’t be used in Dreamrift considering that boss spawns like 7 mobs or something
are the 2 dragons consistent cleave though?
But who knows what mythic will look like, the adds on the tic tac toe boss will probably live longer so Thane might be good there
problem in myth is that thane does dogwater single target and there might just not be enough boss damage going out
idk though
Makes sense for Paladin council though
would depend on raid comp
I did thane on all bosses and i think i did finr in normal
Anyone know any good povs to watch to learn how to play on the current raid?
From what I've seen there's positioning where you can have both dragons apart with both tanks almost back to back, like a V with the raid in the middle
Im doing awful dmg
yeah but normal boss health pools are... normal
Critakill stream and clips
I want myth raid 🥹
what is crit playing?
Fury warrior
I forgor
Can you link the stream? Nothing comes up when I type critakill on twitch
Critcake*
Ah ok
Critakill is a cooler name tbf 
Join my Discord (my UI & FAQs are there): https://discord.gg/SDXhcwE5NxTwitch stream here: https://www.twitch.tv/critcakeeu
I do have a question on the recommended talents I see everywhere, is there a specific reason why we're not taking enrage regeneration? Or is it just for greedy damage
I've been too, I just wanna know why
Wallife1 on twitch if his vods are up
True I invented it on accident though
Nobody else can use that name now
I don’t take ER, bc I’m not afraid of normal or heroic raid dmg
depending on your healers, your mileage may vary
As fury we never die ever and if we do it’s everyone else’s problem. Greed damage and ignore your hp, pal
Rally for yourself if you get worried 
Don’t ignore your hp, just press a pot or IV if sub 50% health and you will need ER in the next lifetime
Will check it out thank you
This is what big healer wants you to worry about
I don’t take ER cause if I die I can go afk and make a grilled cheese
Dump question
There is this qchievement when u get 4 piece u get catalyst charges easier
Does that count for Main to or ONLY for Alts?
Main only I believe
Your alts will basically have the same amount all the time as your main anyways
Its acc wide achievemnt
@sullen dove
i was sleeping watching bro play demo
Just watch me play
who
just a quick question
Yeah i more meant warrior pov bc im new to the class and I wanna see how people use their cds
do we play thane or slayer in raid
Thane for all of normal
But gotta swap to slayer for most fights in heroic according to discord
I played slayer for most of normal
I did slayer all of normal
went very smoothly
but I didn't know thane was even an option at that point
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