#fury

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eager jackal
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How is fury with the new patch updates?

hardy shuttle
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Roughly 10% stronger compared to last week. But weaker relative to the field in pure st sims.

wet pendant
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We can milk in aoe fights

rapid arrow
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I meant a buff that doesn't have any charges

tardy lark
queen widget
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Yh I seem to find Slayer winning in terms of ST & AOE when simming. Not got my aoe sims but for instance I'm talented for aoe in slayer and still hitting 59kish St...with correct talent swap in slayer I hit 60-61ish and a popular 240ilvl fury thane player with thane hitting 49k St. Slayer definitely topping ATM but who knows after patch

rapid arrow
modest wave
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Yeah, its why Im leaning towards mostly Slayer ST + MT on some fights and just thane on Paladins

queen widget
smoky basin
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Are you simming with the latest build?

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Or maybe the weekly without the reap nerf?

lone plume
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Is powerful enrage viable?

queen widget
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Latest

rapid arrow
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I think this is just something I have noticed about fury warrior but, in later patches with more mastery+haste seems to always find its place to A tier to say the least

wet pendant
queen widget
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I'm 14 crit 32 mast 19 haste

wet pendant
queen widget
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EU

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Not sure 2bh

wet pendant
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So ur telling me that 4% haste, 3%mastery and probably higher ilvl weapons (coz i have 2x blue weapons 237) gives me 12k dps on sims ?

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Leme test too aec

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Sec

surreal token
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are there any weap enchants that aren't stupidly expensive

vital estuary
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The ones you farm mats and craft yourself 😉

wet pendant
rare garnet
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wow tokens solve all problems

river loom
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quick question do we craft 2x axe or 2x sword (axe have more base dmg)

somber thicket
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We will have 12 m0 on 17?

blissful hound
somber thicket
hardy bluff
modest wave
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Poor itemization really does make it rough to hit that 60k goal

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though I did start this warrior last thursday

rare forum
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void trinket is ass, swap it

river loom
bitter palm
rare forum
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undersims?

robust onyx
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is gaze still bis?

bitter palm
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the 3 boons never proc

rare forum
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shiet

tranquil field
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That trinket is meant for open world content in the void storm.

modest wave
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Yeah, my options are limited since I started last week

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hoping for something better prior to raid

misty thunder
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there is some copium that the trinket works in raid though

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:shrugs

honest trail
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How the fck do you get almost 60k sims 💀

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With current gear?

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You enchanting items alrdy?

native wadi
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240 too

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Big boy

honest trail
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I'm way higher than 240

native wadi
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I meant he is simming that witg 240

modest wave
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only enchant I have is vet wep, cheapest version incase I dont get upgrade before raid

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it'll be OH

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there are people here simming 61k

native wadi
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We are all 250 and 30cm in warr discord we all know that

honest trail
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Wat

honest trail
normal pewter
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do we ever bladestorm outside of CDs?

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or always hold

honest trail
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if Reck is too long cd you just use it

vivid moat
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I just simmed and my thane is only 2k behind on st as expected

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hmm

frank crystal
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We play slayer aoe in raid ? When there are adds an more bosses ?

fading sky
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Y thane is gonna be played aøot

vivid moat
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my sims say thane 58 slayer 60

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which is w/e

fading sky
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Yup

cursive pivot
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Simming is still M+ = 5 targets 90 seconds, Raid = 1 target 5 minutes?

fading sky
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Simmin just st

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Then feely craft trinkyes

vivid moat
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I think raid encounters are better for thane considering pretty close sims

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but will see

fading sky
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And 12.05 deffo !!🤣🤣

cursive pivot
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When is 12.05?

modest wave
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Yeah, thane only 2k behind for me as well simming ST

cursive pivot
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That today?

modest wave
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so any fight that even remotely has a chance of adds thane feels better

vivid moat
unborn delta
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i prefer thane aoe bc i dont gotta remember to press whirl wint

fading sky
frank crystal
terse ether
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so let me get this str8

tomorrow we can craft 2 items ? with 2 embellisments?

fading sky
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No

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Craft weapon

coarse nest
fading sky
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With spark

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And bracers with vet crest

terse ether
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yeah - thats what I said., sorry

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I meant 2 embelisments

vivid moat
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I pref thane too, it's not like thane's aoe burst is bad if you time reck ava with 2 quick tblasts but will see

cursive pivot
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Why are we creating a weapon?

vivid moat
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and of

spare steppe
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You cant craft 2 embellishments

fading sky
spare steppe
terse ether
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weapon with sparks, bracers with vet crests

unborn delta
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wepon

terse ether
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and what aobut the other 80 we saveD?

cursive pivot
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Ohh ok

terse ether
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Chest?

spare steppe
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Herp de derp forgot about vet crests

fading sky
modest wave
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can craft 2x pieces for whatever is lowest for you

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doesnt matter

spare steppe
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Thanks gokke

modest wave
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can also craft 2-3 pvp pieces from doing one quest as well

unborn delta
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yea its getting replaced this week anyways

fading sky
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I mean emb cloak

vivid moat
fading sky
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Might last

fading sky
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But dno

modest wave
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Get 2-3 Easy 246 crafted items by winning 1 Arena or Battleground for 9 Galactic Gladiator's Heraldry**
You just need to win 1 BG or Arena and you'll get a quest that gives you free 9 Heraldries, these are like Sparks but for PvP gear, you can use these to craft multiple pieces of 246 without spending any crests!

vivid moat
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arena? I don't think so

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it should be from bg

modest wave
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its either or

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really its just to fill slots that you dont get champ pieces in

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Split Helpers Gearing Guide has the optimal guide for today but its a wall of text

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so rather not blast it here

brittle mauve
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Yo am I supposed to be sitting on crests? I've got 0 going into this reset.

unborn delta
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it doesnt really matter

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as long as you are 240+ ilvl you are chilling

we will get 4th spark today and craft a champ 2h, then do a bunch of content that gives champ and hero gear

brittle mauve
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Okie

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Ty

unborn delta
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the only use for having more vet crests would be saving champion crests

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like upgrading vet from 5/6 to 6/6 to save 20 champ in each slot if you get 1/6 champ gear

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but champion crests don't matter either because next week when m+ comes out we farm that for hero gear

jovial forum
terse ether
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@modest wave - so how you craft the bracers with vet ? and can they be recrafted later to get upgraded?

umbral parcel
terse ether
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i never said spark lol 😄

modest wave
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yeah, just vet crests and really just doing it for easy piece and embel

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Ill PM you @jovial forum

void yoke
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I think I saw this posted a few minutes ago, but are we really raiding as Mountain Thane this tier, due to Blizzard continually nerfing Reap?

umbral parcel
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its just an upgraded version of blue gear from profession

terse ether
void yoke
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SAME

modest wave
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I mean MT is slightly lower in ST for me in sims and lot of fights have random adds, 1st boss ST Slayer

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but like 2nd, has the adds you gotta blow up at wall

vivid moat
modest wave
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dragons have void spawns that are clumped

normal pewter
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if i have main stat piece <240 (blue) should I craft those with vet crests? can always swap out to vet crest bracers if I get a replacement?

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so would be shoulders with embel + weapon craft

void yoke
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I think every fight has adds or multiple targets (pally bros)

cursive pivot
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Anyone know who they’re watching raid tonight?

modest wave
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due to the adds being seperated and not really able to cleave

unborn delta
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1st boss: kill adds after tictactoe
2nd boss: kill buges
3nd boss: kill salad orb
4nd boss: two dragons but they are far apart so we cant cleave probably
5th boss: three pallies
6th boss: we don't really know

rigid stirrup
modest wave
unborn delta
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there are a couple fights in raid that thane will probably outdps

rigid stirrup
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Also depends on tuning and how fast adds blow up. Like if your guild is good and you're all just blowing the adds up on normal/heroic in the first like 10 seconds id argue thane value is lost

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Mythic diff story obvs

modest wave
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yeah, was thinking the same thing

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normal can prolly run slayer with imp ww and be fine cause shit will die so fast

unborn delta
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true then you need bstorm to steal add padding

modest wave
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on every fight

rigid stirrup
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My cook is slayer for heroic and below if your group had any sense of how to play the game then start messing around on mythic

modest wave
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only thing you are losing running imp ww is enraged regen anyway

tardy lark
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which is illegal af

charred flint
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Sorry to be lazy but im having trouble finding anything about the Altar system, is it important?

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Or its only open world stuff

tardy lark
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the zulaman altar things?

charred flint
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yea

tardy lark
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yeah only open world

charred flint
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oh nice for a moment there i thought we were back to borrowed power

languid willow
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Yea I REALLY fucking hate that they booked our aoe talent alongside one of our Strongest defensives in teh game

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so crazy to me

drifting token
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you mean our only defensive...unless you count def stance

tardy lark
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and spell reflect

cerulean kayak
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hi does anything rotationwise change next reset?

tardy lark
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i mean its not like we're naked without ER, but its giga illegal having it this way for warrior while no other class gives up power for their main defensive

calm dock
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i miss double heroic leap

modest wave
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if I die for grabbing imp ww over ER in normal raid Im blaming my heals

eager stirrup
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Is there any point to me crafting 246 wrists today if I'm at a decent ilvl? Would that be suggested over picking up something from the raid until I can craft a higher ilvl version?

modest wave
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you'll be missing out on arcanoweave embel

hybrid wharf
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What this mean ? What is a BiS craft ? What I understand is we craft belt and boots but could be : we craft the best ilvl upgrade. But idk

eager stirrup
spring lantern
eager stirrup
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Is 246 the highest ilvl you can go with non-spark?

hybrid wharf
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Oh thank you ! Didn’t saw it okayge

surreal token
tardy lark
surreal token
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Xeos don't even play war no more

tardy lark
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Xeos has been fake brown outside splits

lavish sierra
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i'm kinda hyped

brittle mauve
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Yo I'm hyped for thane raid spec

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Adds will die

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Under my foot

lavish sierra
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have a little blast

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as a treat

frank dawn
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You mean you'll apply rend and some other bursty class will kill them first

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xd

lavish sierra
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take credit

brittle mauve
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I think my TBS and BB's will chunk

lavish sierra
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if i can shattering throw one of the paladins shields I will be so happy

brittle mauve
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I'm just here to slam

lavish sierra
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"get fucked paladin"

tardy lark
smoky nacelle
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for adds

quasi schooner
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Just out of interst, how much do y'all sim at currently and how accurate is that number in comparison to dummy dps?

native wadi
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Does anyone have a cooked excel with bosses and adds spawns etc? Would be nice to see where thane vs slayer

lavish sierra
smoky basin
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Awesome I didn't see that posted

fading sky
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or does it just say go Fury 😉

lavish sierra
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just go to the url and replace the fury with arms

lavish sierra
fading sky
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ngl

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big mistake it doesnt say go fury

smoky basin
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How long do we hold bladestorm for add spawns?

fading sky
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for however long needed

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its normal man, just meme me

coarse nest
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Rip my beloved arms

fading sky
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or at least respec

fickle stirrup
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How is Fury doing in ST?
I know in AoE we slap but haven't heard much about the former

random shadow
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Not the greatest or the worst

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But at least we're better then arms

languid willow
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just be like me guild and only have one warrior and be forced to play warrior no matter what then it never matters how good our dps is 🙂

lavish sierra
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at least you're worth the buff?

bleak harness
rare garnet
lavish sierra
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i remember switching to dk on h dim just so we could have a grip for the adds

bleak harness
languid willow
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I'd swap to dk honestly but i have dk and ret both on retainer incase fury just shows out abysmall but I think we will do very decent this raid

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lot of add cleave very undervauled atm imo

random shadow
languid willow
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I mean dk(frost) and ret both have pretty decent on demand cleave prio but i think fury just overall does a better job of it

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unholy unfort needs to have dt or army to really do any decent cleave and by the time they have cd's things in raid are usually dead in hc/norm

bleak harness
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Can’t wait to fight tanks , yay

random shadow
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bros raiding with 4 unholy dks lmao

bleak harness
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Yep , seems so

surreal token
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no shaman either

random shadow
surreal token
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oh my bad, missed the mw

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seems like a lot of buffs are missing

bleak harness
echo rapids
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5 DK but no DH for magic buff?

surreal token
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no DH while u have 3 warlocks is crazy work

echo rapids
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Big yikes if true

frosty scroll
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bros raiding with 5 dks and 2 palas, youre getting tier set next year buddy

echo rapids
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We have 4 plate lol

random shadow
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no DH with 3warlocks seems throwing

bleak harness
bleak harness
frosty scroll
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bros whole roster chose mains before tuning changes 💀

junior oyster
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Somehow my groups doing 8 plate, 4 of which are dps warrior

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We're also a whatever-happens-happens aotc guild so we don't go too ape about comp, but T^T

surreal token
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how did u find that many warirors

junior oyster
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I have no clue. Historically I've been the only one

white grove
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Recruited them from this discord

surreal token
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oh if ur just 4fun, then it's chill

frosty scroll
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4 warrior dps out of the 5 warrior players worldwide

surreal token
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yeah lmao

junior oyster
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XD

junior oyster
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It does almost make me consider going enh for a season again tho... almost

surreal token
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imo you should play enhance regardless

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it's actually so fun to play

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I tried it fro the first time and it's so much more engaging and fun than most melees

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it feels like a legion class

frosty scroll
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me when stormstrike procs

surreal token
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nah, it's lava lash now

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it plays really well in aoe

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it's st is decent, prolly need more haste

bleak harness
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I consider dropping warrior on 0.5 if they go throu woth the curent changes , fck ww spam

surreal token
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probably worth playing other classes by then

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2 months away

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unless u can stand playing warrior nonstop for 8 weeks

rare forum
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zugzug is love, zugzug is life

brittle crow
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only one in my guild

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as god intended

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everyone else here has switched to dk

surreal token
rigid chasm
surreal token
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nah but warriors for sure

frosty scroll
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ive been playing fury since like legion xeos

rigid chasm
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all the good players have migrated to other classes/specs....creates a curious paradox

thorny zenith
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What crests do we craft a 2hander with tonight

rigid chasm
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the good players must eventually be somewhere

surreal token
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naeno, xeos, vil, apook, cheeklord

lavish sierra
surreal token
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at this point if tmy, crit and eroka stop playing warrior

hollow sapphire
rare forum
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Well, now we are the best warrior players 😎

frosty scroll
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me when the best warrior players are blue loggers xeos

surreal token
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it's joever

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idek if wallife is gonna play war this tier

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no news from revvez

hardy shuttle
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I heard the debate is actually if dps warrior is within 20k dps of the other dps option, then you run 2x brewmasters. Since brew is 20k above the next tank

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Otherwise you go prot warrior plus brew

bleak harness
hollow sapphire
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I heard if you recraft your weapon it keeps the enchant on it, is that true?

surreal token
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he loves war too much

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and he's good at it

random shadow
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doubt crit will leave

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he'll just be coping arms

bleak harness
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I doubt as well

surreal token
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if anyone's gonna make war look good, it'll be him anyway

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then everyone else's RL is ognna ask em why they cant perform like critcake

lavish sierra
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tbh I could see them buffing arms to the point where it's good but still unfun to play

surreal token
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wdym unfun

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arms pretty fun

bleak harness
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Desynca are annoying thou

surreal token
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wdym desync

lavish sierra
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doing it from the context of how crit felt about arms in s2 at least

surreal token
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imo arms is better now than it was in TWW

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as far as pure fun goes

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numerically awful

random shadow
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arms is fun rn it just doesnt do damage

lavish sierra
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that's g ood

surreal token
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yeah, i feel the same

lavish sierra
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well wait no good but

surreal token
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it felt fun on a dummy where i didn't have skyfury, lust, etc.

lavish sierra
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there's some hope there

surreal token
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i imagine it'd feel way more fun in a proper raid fight

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it just sucks that execute is so shit

rare garnet
surreal token
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in favor of?

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the heroic strike change was pretty good imo

random shadow
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as long its fun and does decent damage in keys im fine

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raiding is whatever

surreal token
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i'm opposite

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i could give af about colossus m+

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i want the raid slayer build to be fun and engaging

random shadow
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i mean in general not just arms

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like even fury

surreal token
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well

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idk now

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mountain thane in raid is crazy work

wicked scarab
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Maaan M+ Arms Slayer was looking solid in beta

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Why'd they have to ruin it lol

random shadow
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i like thane so i dont mind as much

bleak harness
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I tryed messing with it in s3 in m+ and had desyncs , wasnt fun

lavish sierra
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honestly overwhelmed as a debuff seems kinda half baked

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or rather it just seems like it's something you just build and have in a fight but you don't really do anything else with

strong relic
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Anyone knows if Ragedrinker makes Bloodthirst heal for 6% hp or is the extra 3% applied to the base 3%?

drifting token
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It states "additional" so i'd assume 3% +3% for 6% total

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it's a nothing talent either way so who cares

fickle stirrup
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Nah, Arms is mad clunky and the CDR issues make it even more annoying
Plus their hard on for keeping Slam is baffling

brittle mauve
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I remember playing around boomie procs back in DF and how fun it was to work hard for that extra dps squeeze. Don't think we have that anymore

strong relic
frank dawn
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what is...a "pvp"

surreal token
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because arms rotation feels less clunky than slayer fury on ST

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we have to press fucking rend bro

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arms also presses rend, but it feels less shitty to do so

fickle stirrup
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Ain't said none shit about Fury

surreal token
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fair point

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if arms gets a buff to be placed near fury, I'd imagine people play it

lavish sierra
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doesn't slayer fury also have cdr issues with bladestorm too

surreal token
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oh right

lavish sierra
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the whole 10 second vs 30 second hold for recklessness st or aoe

surreal token
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BS feels cheeks

fickle stirrup
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Yup!
I find the Slayer Fury glaze confusing af too

surreal token
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making AM affect Av/Reck, but not BS was interesting

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was it because blizzard thought it'd give too much power to a single talent

runic violet
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yo why server down

drifting token
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I mean yeah if both AM and Unrelenting affected it they prob didnt want slayers to be BSing every 10 seconds

lavish sierra
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i love reap the storm

fickle stirrup
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Speaking of AM
I feel like it's one of the talents that actually feels good in this game. It does it's thing regardless in the background but how much CDR you get relies on you actually doing your rotation properly.
A lot of the times mfs in these Discords petition for some clunky ass shit where if you don't play it 100% properly you just fuck yourself out of dmg no matter what

surreal token
maiden ingot
surreal token
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I think we need to spend some time with the tier before coming to full conclusion

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cos OF will end up being cast more

drifting token
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yeah OF is gonna be very rotational

trail bane
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The entire thing of Slayer reducing the cooldown of Bladestorm is a bad idea

random shadow
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Personally not enjoying slayer as much as thane this season. So im content with thane. Slayer BS is annoying tho

real cape
trail bane
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Bladestorm should have been on AM and they should have redesigned Slayer to do something else.

real cape
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Oh, wait, this isn't prot channel.

random shadow
surreal token
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if thane had a greater proc rate on the free BT casts, its single target would feel nice as well

random shadow
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Would feel greater in general including aoe

drifting token
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it's hard to make that not also turn aoe into a circus though

real cape
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Ye bit it kind of meant to be the stompy cleaver, though

random shadow
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Unless during cds on 6+ targets

fickle stirrup
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Makes you wonder if they should just ditch RB and add the reset effect to BT instead

random shadow
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I would like a rampage season

surreal token
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this is kind of a rampage season

random shadow
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Spenders should be strong and want to click besides enraged or rage cap

fickle stirrup
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Rampaging Ruin could've been something awesome...

random shadow
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I mean in terms of damage and such. Generators doing as much or more then spenders is meh

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Or higher prio

surreal token
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oh

brittle mauve
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I feel like we press ramp a fair bit.

random shadow
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You havw to for overcapping and enrage

brittle mauve
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BB feels good. It all feels good . Minus the clunky rampage hits that sometimes screw me up for my next gcd

drifting token
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Or like just add a little additional effect to Flashing Skies like "if only one target is in range, two lightning strikes are called"

random shadow
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Otherwise you'd judt spam BT

lavish sierra
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rephrasing: removing reap the storm from bloodthirst does hurt a bit.

drifting token
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Is NA maintenance over yet or nah

lavish sierra
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2 more hours I t hought

stable crescent
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Are we getting M+ today?

lavish sierra
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next week

real cape
hybrid karma
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so is Mainstat Weapon Enchant just simming for me higher or for anyone else?

vivid moat
frosty scroll
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when can warriors craft wep, is it this coming week

hybrid karma
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yes

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today Na or tomorrow EU

untold yacht
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hi is that still a priority heard it gon nerfed

stable crescent
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I could be wrong but on the linked Fury Warrior Midnight Season 1 Wowhead page the Stat Priority and Best Consumables are different at the top of the page than the bottom of the page.

smoky vale
smoky nacelle
sly bobcat
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Fuck bouiisss what happened to spore embellishment? Wowhead now says arcanoweave lining. (I crafted spore wrists)

craggy jungle
echo rapids
smoky nacelle
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just so i know..recrafting will not take another 4 sparks??

craggy jungle
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correct

echo rapids
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Nope

craggy jungle
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just takes like usually ~1/3ish of the original other mats

smoky nacelle
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you guys are the real MVPs

random shadow
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just craft champ today and recraft myth next week

echo rapids
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Yeah do NOT craft with hero crests

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They are more important this season

smoky nacelle
echo rapids
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You can use hero crests to push an item to 6/6 which will let a myth 1/6 in that slot be upgraded to 2/6 for free

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Which is a big savings

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Doing that 5 times is a free week of crests

turbid fog
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The way crest upgrades work this expac is so weird lol

sly bobcat
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Is primal spore binding kill? Or close enuff

random shadow
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Its the same old just at 40 crests now

smoky nacelle
turbid fog
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You can use "weaker" crests to get discounts on the higher crest upgrades even before the direct trading up happens

surreal token
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@craggy jungle do you know who Zorthas is?

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ur twin

turbid fog
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Which is not typically a level of meta tech they allow to happen

craggy jungle
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lol yea I know of him. I've had this username since before WoW existed tho

random shadow
sullen dove
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not really

random shadow
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Gear always was free up to your current ilevel

turbid fog
sullen dove
#

It’s the fact that going from 4/6 > 6/6 hero now only costs heroic crests, where before you had to spend mythic crests on it

small tinsel
#

Hey all

Currently sat at max adventure and veteran crests and 237 gear score

I’m watching videos on if I should bother spending them or not and getting conflicting information.

Any advise would be appreciated

random shadow
#

Should spend adventure and probably vet since season starts today

sullen dove
#

Should absolutely spend all adventurer no reason to hold, assuming you don’t have that much blue gear and can upgrade all of it. Even if you can’t probably still the play

random shadow
#

We're gonna start getting champ today so no reason to hold

turbid fog
edgy widget
#

save some vet for crafting, but you can otherwise spend it by the time you go into raid

sullen dove
#

and vets yea if you want to go through the hassle crafting a 246 sparkless item in slots you only have blue gear in is good too

sullen dove
#

but yea hopefully not more than half the pieces would think not that

smoky nacelle
#

mythic 0 are 246 and daily reset today

turbid fog
#

Also the new dungeons so you can get neat trinkets

sullen dove
#

pieces to fill any blue gear you’re wearing

#

Or embellished bracers

#

Weapon gets crafted with sparks and no crests today

surreal token
#

oh nice

turbid fog
#

They should've trolled and made it so that one of the non-season dungeons had a trinket that's BiS even though it's only veteran track

edgy widget
turbid fog
#

so u had to get it in the first 2 weeks or get f'd for the season

#

that would have been great

sullen dove
#

I’m ngl I feel like the den of nalorakk tank trink is almost like that

#

It seems so fuckin op

random shadow
#

Its still non seasonal m0s this week no?

sullen dove
#

like a free constant 1300+ crit

random shadow
#

Or are they releasing seasonal m0s this week

turbid fog
sullen dove
#

Only downside is no strength on it maybe that brings its value down a lot

#

But I would think 10x or more crit vs strength would be worth it

turbid fog
sullen dove
#

but using that shit as prot I had like 45% crit

#

doesn’t go away if you’re in combat taking damage and don’t drop below 25% hp

turbid fog
#

Which in a 0 should always be the case lol

wise wren
#

With the update and start of the season today is thane expected to do best for M+? And did the changes make Arms better than Fury for PvP or are you guys still doing Fury Slayer for PvP?

sullen dove
#

M+ not open for another week and #pvp can prolly answer the second question better than us

#

would think fury still better though maybe

wise wren
#

Sorry for Mythics I mean

#

Wasnt sure if the Slayer changes gave it any edge of thane in Mythics

sullen dove
#

yea dungeons in general thane still owns

#

Slayer got nerfed more than thane

#

When thane was already better

#

so nawl it’s some poopy

wise wren
#

That tracks

#

My buddy playing Shadow priest was already C tier DPS and got nerfed into the ground lol

sullen dove
#

thought they just got buffed no?

random shadow
#

They got their aoe buffed no?

sullen dove
#

but idk spriest lingo

random shadow
#

Maybe in pure ST raid

#

But like raid is mostly cleave and adds anyways besides a boss or two

drifting token
#

Yeah they just got another big blanket buff today

turbid fog
wise wren
#

Apparently their Shadowy Apparition AoE damage went from like 200% to 60%

smoky nacelle
#

maybe we won't be sub-par anymore

drifting token
#

if everybody else around us also didn't get huge buffs maybe that'd be true

tepid bone
#

do we have an idea anywhere the value of 2pc/4pc

lavish sierra
#

weird build, probably less fun to play because the whole curve shifts but CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgGDjxMsMzMzMDjZGzYmZmlZmxYmZbMPwMAAQMWWGYBMBzwEYG2AmZ2Y2GAAMzMDjZmhBD

nocturne bluff
#

Pretty sure Arcane got buffed for some fucking reason (with minor cleave nerf)

#

It might be a wash actually for ST

#

Cuz slinger got hit

random shadow
halcyon hollow
#

anyone knows what ilvl the epic pvp-items have? raidbot says 233, larias guide 246

plain eagle
#

Ok all I need to know is did we get nerfed

sullen dove
#

mostly buffed for now

undone flower
halcyon hollow
undone flower
#

246

halcyon hollow
#

hm, then raidbots is lying to me

sullen dove
#

its probably just crafting rank 1

undone flower
#

Im not 100% myself, im also repeating what someone said

sullen dove
#

and not updated to say what max rank is

halcyon hollow
trail locust
#

how do you craft 246 with veteran crests?

hybrid carbon
#

blue item with veteran crests as the input

trail locust
#

ahhhhhhh

#

ty

#

but u cant craft like arcanoweave lining on that e.g. bracers

hardy shuttle
#

Youd do the cloak in the meantime

#

At least thats what I did. Idk

trail locust
digital steppe
#

how long is the campaign quest?

#

feel like ive been playing for a couple hours and am still level 80 lol

sullen dove
#

probably not that long

#

oh that campaign

#

yea maybe like 6-8ish hours and you wont hit 90 from finishing campaign

#

will have to do some stuff after that tho

sullen dove
#

like delve quests/world quests/dungeons

#

a couple hours and still 80 is kinda crazy tho

#

should ding within like at least an hour

digital steppe
sullen dove
#

before finishing eversong

#

somewhere around tranquillen

sullen dove
#

yea idk something seems like wrong for that to be the case

#

are you... playing the right campaign...?

#

in midnight/silvermoon i hope

digital steppe
#

yeah, following the midnight campaign

#

im in the "new" city and everything

sullen dove
#

k yea idk should be around or almost 82 by the time u finish the first zone

#

if u just did the first scenario thing then yea not that deep in

charred flint
#

It took me like 40 minutes each level aprox.

#

Idk whats happening over there

smoky nacelle
charred flint
#

And i'm by no means a fast leveler

bitter palm
#

god forbid someone takes their time

digital steppe
#

im not even wandering around, just doing the quest and thats it

sly bobcat
#

Can we do t11 delves this week or is it next week?

lavish sierra
#

can you even do those quests if you theoretically didnt even own the expansion

sullen dove
#

might be open this week

bitter palm
#

no

#

you cant accept the campaign quest afaik

#

the midnight quest or whatever

abstract vale
#

get Update to the most weapon to craft ?

lavish sierra
#

seems like the "is it plugged in" step of troubleshooting

arctic vale
#

Hey guys, can we actually follow wodhead talents guides for single targets ? What spec is the best right now

sullen dove
#

yes

bitter palm
#

yes

#

fury in all content

smoky nacelle
#

Is there not a pinned message somewhere

bitter palm
#

pve pvp raid m+ delves open world

arctic vale
#

Sweet, mountain Thane for m+ and slayer for raid I guess ?

lavish sierra
#

little bit of both actually

sullen dove
#

75% yes might play thane on some bosses

timber hare
#

Slayer for life

bitter palm
#

thane probably gonna be better on mythic

charred flint
#

We'll know better whats best for fights today i believe

smoky nacelle
uneven dragon
#

for crafting i don't remember how it works because the "world tour" spark quest is only 1 week per account but everyone should have 2 sparks this week right

lavish sierra
#

3 I think

arctic vale
#

great ty guys

uneven dragon
#

oh?

uneven dragon
bitter palm
#

colossus is already owning on aoe

sullen dove
#

i would take an arms good in m+ olive branch

sullen dove
#

miss demolishing

bitter palm
#

cleave is disturbing rn

#

its unreal how stupid that spell is

sullen dove
#

good

lean heart
#

ya we got 2 sparks the first week plus 1 last week should be 3 now
4 after reset today

bitter palm
sullen dove
#

die

bitter palm
#

to cleave a lot on st

lean heart
#

lowk might be a hold crests til next week for craft angle

bitter palm
charred flint
#

Why were people saying to not craft a 2H

#

or did i misunderstood that

sullen dove
#

dont ever spend hero crests on 2h

#

but fine to craft one with just sparks

lean heart
#

yup

sullen dove
#

but if u dont want to spend the gold recrafting to myth then wait till myth

bitter palm
#

ye

lean heart
#

either is fine i think

#

you get there eventually

bitter palm
#

u can craft a 2h but dont spend hero crests

#

wait for mythic week then recraft/craft with myth crests

smoky nacelle
#

We crafting today with embellishment

lean heart
#

yee

echo rapids
#

Craft today with embellishment, get a free upgrade on your offhand

smoky nacelle
#

Recrafting with mythic crests

echo rapids
#

This is the way

smoky nacelle
#

This is the way

long flame
#

What's the recraft cost besides the myth crest and the extra gold? Or is that it? Don't need the mats again, right?

smoky nacelle
#

If your not poor

lean heart
#

you do need mats again

smoky nacelle
#

1/3 someone said

long flame
#

Good to know

unborn delta
#

wodhead

charred flint
#

I missed a week's crafty thing cause i just bought the game, after reset today, will i be able to reach the same 4 stones as some one who has been playing since day 1?

frank crystal
#

One quick question , let’s say that you are lucky enough and the first week that the mythic + opens you get a mythic weapon on vault , then you will be able to have a 289 and a 285 weapon equipped right ?

#

I mean the mats are enough to do that right ?

surreal token
#

there's no content this week that would award that

blissful nimbus
#

with the nerfs to gaze do we still wanna get it or is it just in line with other top trinkets now and not as important?

charred flint
unborn delta
#

i will get lucky and get myth weapon from vault next week 🙏

lavish sierra
#

when do you think m+ opens, mega

random shadow
charred flint
#

am i wrong hahaha

random shadow
#

youre wrong

charred flint
#

Oh wow

random shadow
#

keys open next week and 10s dont get you a mythic piece out of chests

unborn delta
random shadow
#

vault yes tho

charred flint
lavish sierra
#

technically\

charred flint
#

I thought that it opened today

lavish sierra
#

bonus loot

charred flint
#

with raid

frank crystal
random shadow
unborn delta
#

first vault will be next week, but we cant get myth gear out of it

unborn delta
#

because theres no m+ this week or mythic raid

desert dirge
#

I just need to know if I can spell reflect tick of the Giant godzilla death beam on Vorasius

frank crystal
sullen dove
#

you can try and let us know your finding

random shadow
#

i mean from the point of how are you gonna get the myth loot from vault by next week tho

random shadow
#

no content rewards you mythic loot this week for next week

undone flower
#

You can’t have a mythic item from your first vault

#

Yes

sullen dove
smoky nacelle
#

Next week when mythic plus opens we can run them for the myth crests all of them for our 80

random shadow
#

how are you gonna do mythic 10s or a mythic raid when it doesnt open this week lol

unborn delta
#

str 2h is prettty early in raid just kill first few bosses early next week and loot it

sullen dove
#

fym "early in the raid"

random shadow
#

its the 5th boss 💀

sullen dove
#

its the 5th boss in voidspire or the very last boss in the tier

random shadow
#

5/6 bosses

trail locust
#

are champion crests also weekly capped?

unborn delta
#

5th boss was fractillus last tier 🤔

sullen dove
#

yes

random shadow
#

every crest is capped by 100 every week

undone flower
#

Supposedly the 6-7 boss in difficulty

random shadow
#

again

smoky vale
undone flower
#

3! ?

smoky vale
#

no!

unborn delta
#

red red red red
red red red blue
red red red green
red red green red
red red blue red
red red green red

#

it keeps going

frank crystal
smoky vale
#

yeah whats the number

unborn delta
#

4 * 4 * 4 * 4

undone flower
#

Or its 1 ball is 3! I don’t remember

unborn delta
#

256

random shadow
#

you wont have enough crests

unborn delta
#

3 * 3 * 3 * 3

frank crystal
#

Idd

smoky vale
#

wrong

undone flower
#

3!^4 ?

smoky vale
#

wrong

unborn delta
#

is it a bag with infinite red blue and green balls

random shadow
#

im more curious on how you plan to get a mythic weapon out of vault next week

sullen dove
#

ok 1 week pushback whatever

#

doesnt matter these semantics

smoky vale
#

answer is 15

random shadow
sullen dove
#

but 100 crests per week is enough to make a myth crafted weap and fully upgrade a myth weapon whenever you get one out of vault

unborn delta
#

is it with combination or permutation

random shadow
#

people dont even know what factors is

unborn delta
#

we are good at discriminant analysis though

random shadow
#

when math becomes more about letters then numbers

undone flower
random shadow
#

i look at quant maths and question how dumb i am keks

blissful hound
#

Graph theory is hella fun

lavish sierra
#

de morgans laws were neat

undone flower
#

So you need to multiply possibility of each x possibility of it’s your ball no ?

random shadow
#

remember peopel dontk now what factors are in math

#

if you show them the ! symbol they wouldnt know

unborn delta
blissful hound
#

Im pretty sure the average person would understand discrete math a lot more tbh

smoky vale
#

its combination

lavish sierra
#

i'll fit ur plane

random shadow
#

the average person probably doesnt go above calc 1 maybe 2

#

yet alone algebra

pliant obsidian
#

as an old guy when did they introduce pmdas?

unborn delta
#

pmo

random shadow
#

how cooked does it have to be when the fury warriors start talking about math 💀

blissful hound
#

I think we had math discussions yesterday as well

#

Or was it 2 days ago?

nimble sluice
#

yesterday lol

unborn delta
#

im doing my stupid chud multivariate analytics homework

smoky vale
#

6! / (4!*2!)

undone flower
unborn delta
#

yea i read it as permutations with replacement

smoky vale
#

maybe

echo rapids
#

Hero tier piece or raid trinket is probably best case for vault this week

blissful hound
narrow fossil
#

Hello si anyway to track whilwind charges with better cooldownmanager?

blissful hound
#

For the better

unborn delta
#

whilwind

random shadow
#

case and point

#

lol

unborn delta
undone flower
#

Bc 15 seems way small for a 4 step 3 choice thingy

pliant obsidian
#

cd manager does just fine

smoky vale
#

it should imply combination

random shadow
#

sensei bars is great imo

narrow fossil
unborn delta
#

but sensei has awesome visual for the whirlwind that is nice

random shadow
#

dont even need CDM anymore tbh

narrow fossil
#

track

smoky vale
#

bc i didnt say anything about an ordering

pliant obsidian
#

it shows me the ww icon with the amount of hits left

unborn delta
#

"how many can ways you pull out 4 balls colored red blue green"

undone flower
pliant obsidian
#

and the enrage bar is great too

unborn delta
#

he said how many can ways you pull out 4 balls colored red blue green

#

which doesn't really mean anything

smoky vale
#

this was basically the answer

unborn delta
#

my way is permutations though

undone flower
#

Your serie being blue-red-green-green is different than green-green-blue-red

unborn delta
#

it treats RRGR different from RRRG

smoky vale
#

but then you would apply the other part of the equation

teal valve
#

Just to double check with all the info that i saw, we will wait until the next VAULT to see what we will craft ?

unborn delta
#

with permutations its a simply 3^4 or 3 * 3 * 3 * 3

smoky vale
#

to make it combination

trail locust
#

u send all veteran crests before the raid right?
U dont min max to save some champion crests right?

lavish sierra
#

i think you can craft now and recraft in myth week which would let you recraft with myth crests

#

it'll make your offhand easier to upgrade

undone flower
#

So my answer is still 1296 goober gio

smoky vale
#

but its 15

random shadow
#

are yall still on about the math

unborn delta
#

selecting n elements from a set of r elements where repetition is permitted and the order of selection is irrelevant would be (n + r - 1)! / (r! * (n -1)!)

random shadow
#

ask chatgpt what it thinks

pliant obsidian
#

making my wep this week i know cloak bracers are bis but i want wep badly lol

lavish sierra
#

( (12 + 144 + 20 + 3 Sqrt[4]) / 7 ) + 5*11 = 9^2 + 0 .

smoky nacelle
lavish sierra
#

A dozen, a gross, and a score,
plus three times the square root of four,
divided by seven,
plus five times eleven,
is nine squared and not a bit more.

unborn delta
#

9 squared is not 92

#

🤔

lavish sierra
#

copy and paste fed up

random shadow
granite elbow
#

too much math happening here not enough zugbraincell

pliant obsidian
#

that equation right there is when you use that pmdas which i think sux lol

undone flower
#

Robot god infected us

humble lark
#

are world bosses coming this reset?

pliant obsidian
#

yes

leaden star
#

yes

random shadow
#

everything but keys is coming

unborn delta
#

and mythi raid

granite elbow
#

cursed by artificial intel or is it Arcane Intellect

leaden star
#

do you think are mythic plus build will switch to slayer

pliant obsidian
#

no

unborn delta
#

maybe

granite elbow
#

Thane is the way

random shadow
#

in higher keys, lower you can probably do slayer

unborn delta
#

i think higher keys you can play slayer too

#

bstorm is rly strong in m+

#

it should just be preference

random shadow
#

idk, id imagine thane would be way better espically in bigger packs then just BS

pliant obsidian
#

thane in m0's was hitting like a truck

random shadow
#

considering BS has a decent CD

leaden star
#

and rend will apply in whirlwind

random shadow
#

while thudnerclap/blast is pretty strong without CDS

random shadow
unborn delta
#

reap the 57 is nerfed too i guess 🙁

pliant obsidian
#

and tc with rend picked applies rend too

random shadow
#

but by the time of .5 youll be spamming WW as slayer soo idk man

#

if i had to id rather spam thunderclap

lavish sierra
#

true

granite elbow
hoary tartan
#

I miss pressing bladestorm

lavish sierra
#

excessive whirlwinding should just send you into a bladestorm anyway

coarse nest
#

Any slayer keyers in the chat

random shadow
coarse nest
pliant obsidian
#

howl being on a 45 sec cd is not good i like using it

random shadow
#

it got a +90 sec nerf no?

pliant obsidian
#

oh you are right sorry

#

even worse

random shadow
#

oh im wrong, +60 sec nerf to 90 seconds

#

but still a min and half is kinda rough

lavish sierra
#

furiously spinning even to kill a single target feels on brand

random shadow
lavish sierra
#

dedicated aoe finisher?

pliant obsidian
#

any breakpoints yet on secondary stats before diminishing returns or too early to tell

drifting token
#

Not even close, don't even have tier yet

robust onyx
#

Does NA have technical break or issues xd?

pliant obsidian
#

why?

robust onyx
#

because servers are offline

random shadow
#

i mean

#

planned rset

pliant obsidian
#

30 more mins

long flame
#

We're still 30mins out no?

random shadow
#

season comes out today lol

long flame
#

From the official?

random shadow
young swan
#

im surprised its this short

#

very conservative guess from them

compact knot
pliant obsidian
#

dont jinx it lol

compact knot
#

end of 2nd tier is MAYBE when we hit diminishing returns

random shadow
#

it dont matter, my server is gonna explode for 30 mins when it releases anyways lmao

compact knot
#

or if you somehow roll like 30 haste pieces

pliant obsidian
#

the snow boss is gonna be very interesting in high keys

frank crystal
sullen dove
pliant obsidian
#

this week you can't

sullen dove
#

get ready for 8 hours next week for m+

#

poggers

pliant obsidian
#

i wonder if bahjeera went to sleep last night he has been up for days grinding lol

random shadow
#

servers might be up

agile notch
#

For the craft do we do spark on 2h weapon and then vet craft bracrs w/ embelishment?

random shadow
#

cant confirm as area 52 is massive

sullen dove
#

GET IN

warm crag
sullen dove
#

man i should not have logged off inharandar

#

gg 2 year loadscreen

warm crag
sullen dove
#

#gingiemp

pliant obsidian
#

the embellisment isnt limited to having 1 on a wep it was just a good idea to craft a wep if your rng sux this week in getting on in raid etc

random shadow
sullen dove
#

no just like another long loading screen into silvermoon

random shadow
#

im stuck at the 100% loading boss

#

in silvermoon

warm crag
sullen dove
#

lets go arcantina weekly

rare garnet
#

ez

pliant obsidian
#

no if you read archies comments in wowhead it was more an early on craft but you most likely will be crafting cloak bracers later

warm crag
#

yeah later as in in like 3 months

pliant obsidian
#

no 2 weeks

sullen dove
#

first global gg

pliant obsidian
#

nice

smoky nacelle
radiant plank
#

progs ruined

obsidian venture
#

why is it not possible to craft wrist or feet (which do not need sparks) with an embellishment, its only available for shoulders, head, chest, legs..

pliant obsidian
#

how did you get your final spark sooo fast

sullen dove
#

arcantina brou

sullen dove
#

if it has inherent embell it cant work

warm crag
#

is it 1 or 2 sparks to craft an armour piece

sullen dove
#

2

coarse nest
warm crag
median dust
coarse nest
#

Hollyy

charred flint
#

shiet i cant log in

sly bobcat
#

Gg season jover

#

U behind

warm crag
#

someone on eu is already ahead of you

surreal token
#

can we do M0 off the jump

#

or do we need to go do prey or delves

wanton zinc
#

yooooooooo

#

warrior pumping

modest condor
#

someone tell wallife he needs to sandbag

wanton zinc
#

xd

wet pendant
#

What are they playing ??? does anyone know ?

#

Slayer cleave ?

wanton zinc
#

check raider io

#

or logs

#

they will be updated probs already

wet pendant
#

logs r private i think

modest condor
#

you think liquid is public logging? keks

lyric wolf
#

hello ! quick question : how good is anger management ? I love specs with 1 min cooldowns but fury is 1min30 if i'm right, but I dont know how much cdr we get through anger management

wanton zinc
#

but there are pugs

#

its not full liquid

#

no?

wet pendant
#

yea but i dont think they let them

wanton zinc
#

ahhh

drifting token
wanton zinc
gloomy comet
#

execute by sudden death is supposed to reduce bladestorm cd by 5s right? mine reduces 10s for some reason am i missing something?

haughty zephyr
#

Anyone watching the liquid split? Fury near the top first boss.

lyric wolf
supple sinew
#

what does rampage do differently when it lights up for proc?

wet pendant
digital crown
#

damage

wet pendant
dense elbow
agile notch
#

arcanoweave rank doesn't matter right? just makes the craft harder w/ lower?

dense elbow
#

Shouldnt be, but you can preview the product you will craft either way, so feel free to double check

gusty cloak
#

did any talents change today/

modest condor
#

no

vocal flax
#

guys what i should choose for M+ ? slayer or thane?

drifting token
#

thane

sharp trellis
#

So does imminent demise proc reap or no? Wow head says it still does but idk if the tooltip has been updated or not

modest condor
#

it does yes

sharp trellis
#

Interesting

modest condor
#

why is that interesting?

#

there's nothing that indicated it shouldnt anymore

sharp trellis
#

Was that not something they announced they either were going to do, or did do already for both arms and fury slayer

modest condor
#

in 12.0.5 yes

#

2 months from now

sharp trellis
#

Or am I giga geeked

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Okay I am geeked got it

surreal token
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what M0s are available today?

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seasonal?

spiral mesa
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Us players who can link weekly quest pls?

zinc python
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just making sure, we are crafting 2hand today correct?

radiant knot
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I thought whirlwind was supposed to apply rend now?

warm crag
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if that even makes it to live idk

modest condor
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drinking game: drink every time someone mentions one of the 0.5 changes

radiant plank
modest condor
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i didnt say what you have to drink

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im personally drinking water

spring jacinth
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Any plans to close this discord untill fury rank 1 dps?

coarse nest
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Absolutely not

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Lmao

spring jacinth
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sadge, we need to unite and move to the protection discord until fury and arms are good

wary smelt
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i meannn fury is doing pretty good for liquid right now lul

drifting token
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yeeeeah think we're ok

humble plover
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Wall is assembled differently tho

spring jacinth
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i went on 2 streams and only saw a prot warr, who's streaming warrior?

drifting token
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wallife

spring jacinth
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ah ty

wet pendant
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i wanna cry for happiness

drifting token
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he's been thane for 3 of the last 4 bosses. Just vorasius was slayer

trail locust
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whats the ST Opener for Mountain Thane?

drifting token
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go to wowhead

sand lake
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guys do I craft the polearm, axe or sword? I keep seeing different answers.

trail locust
young swan
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WF nullaeus already down xd

vast gorge
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so is arms > fury now?

drifting token
tired bane