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Roughly 10% stronger compared to last week. But weaker relative to the field in pure st sims.
We can milk in aoe fights
It would be so cool if whirlwind just buff you and let's you aoe everyone close to you during that buff time..
I meant a buff that doesn't have any charges
our burst aoe is not TWW levels sadly, so odds of that are slim
Yh I seem to find Slayer winning in terms of ST & AOE when simming. Not got my aoe sims but for instance I'm talented for aoe in slayer and still hitting 59kish St...with correct talent swap in slayer I hit 60-61ish and a popular 240ilvl fury thane player with thane hitting 49k St. Slayer definitely topping ATM but who knows after patch
I know this is just an estimation, but I don't really think slayer is that significantly better than Thane in pure aoe
Yeah, its why Im leaning towards mostly Slayer ST + MT on some fights and just thane on Paladins
I'll sim my aoe later after work and post here I don't thing AOE is massively bigger but it did come out topping thane at least for me...Will test later
Is powerful enrage viable?
Latest
I wanna know the idea of nerfing the proc chance..
I think this is just something I have noticed about fury warrior but, in later patches with more mastery+haste seems to always find its place to A tier to say the least
How did u sim 60k on st ? What statweight do u have ? I sim 48k with 240 ilvl in ST Slayer and my stats are kinda decent
I'm 14 crit 32 mast 19 haste
Are u on NA and u have the updated 10% more dmg ? The patch went through for you on those sims ? Or maybe its already in the raidbots?
So ur telling me that 4% haste, 3%mastery and probably higher ilvl weapons (coz i have 2x blue weapons 237) gives me 12k dps on sims ?
Leme test too aec
Sec
are there any weap enchants that aren't stupidly expensive
The ones you farm mats and craft yourself 😉
wow tokens solve all problems
quick question do we craft 2x axe or 2x sword (axe have more base dmg)
We will have 12 m0 on 17?
No, only the 8 seasonal ones
Thx that's god.
tldr it doesn't matter
#1237307555961634826 message
all weapons do the same damage
Poor itemization really does make it rough to hit that 60k goal
though I did start this warrior last thursday
void trinket is ass, swap it
it doesnt sim properly
undersims?
is gaze still bis?
shiet
That trinket is meant for open world content in the void storm.
Yeah, my options are limited since I started last week
hoping for something better prior to raid
How the fck do you get almost 60k sims 💀
With current gear?
You enchanting items alrdy?
I'm way higher than 240
I meant he is simming that witg 240
only enchant I have is vet wep, cheapest version incase I dont get upgrade before raid
it'll be OH
there are people here simming 61k
We are all 250 and 30cm in warr discord we all know that
Wat
is that a d*ck joke?
if Reck is too long cd you just use it
We play slayer aoe in raid ? When there are adds an more bosses ?
Y thane is gonna be played aøot
No
Well u can🤣
S1 told me that thane sims 40k-ish for them and slayer 60k-ish
my sims say thane 58 slayer 60
which is w/e
Yup
Simming is still M+ = 5 targets 90 seconds, Raid = 1 target 5 minutes?
I think raid encounters are better for thane considering pretty close sims
but will see
I think so as well
And 12.05 deffo !!🤣🤣
When is 12.05?
Yeah, thane only 2k behind for me as well simming ST
That today?
so any fight that even remotely has a chance of adds thane feels better
should be even less diff with reap nerf today
i prefer thane aoe bc i dont gotta remember to press whirl wint
Months
So in more then 1 target raid bosses we play thane ?
Id say tes
so let me get this str8
tomorrow we can craft 2 items ? with 2 embellisments?
Actually W preference
I pref thane too, it's not like thane's aoe burst is bad if you time reck ava with 2 quick tblasts but will see
Why are we creating a weapon?
and of
You cant craft 2 embellishments
Yes
Bigger gain, free upgrades, sims better atm
weapon with sparks, bracers with vet crests
wepon
and what aobut the other 80 we saveD?
Ohh ok
Chest?
Herp de derp forgot about vet crests
Meme crafts 🤣👍🏻
Thanks gokke
can also craft 2-3 pvp pieces from doing one quest as well
yea its getting replaced this week anyways
I mean emb cloak
what ilvl they will be
Might last
Get 2-3 Easy 246 crafted items by winning 1 Arena or Battleground for 9 Galactic Gladiator's Heraldry**
You just need to win 1 BG or Arena and you'll get a quest that gives you free 9 Heraldries, these are like Sparks but for PvP gear, you can use these to craft multiple pieces of 246 without spending any crests!
its either or
really its just to fill slots that you dont get champ pieces in
Split Helpers Gearing Guide has the optimal guide for today but its a wall of text
so rather not blast it here
Yo am I supposed to be sitting on crests? I've got 0 going into this reset.
it doesnt really matter
as long as you are 240+ ilvl you are chilling
we will get 4th spark today and craft a champ 2h, then do a bunch of content that gives champ and hero gear
the only use for having more vet crests would be saving champion crests
like upgrading vet from 5/6 to 6/6 to save 20 champ in each slot if you get 1/6 champ gear
but champion crests don't matter either because next week when m+ comes out we farm that for hero gear
any chance you can tell me where you find the gearing guide or pm me?
@modest wave - so how you craft the bracers with vet ? and can they be recrafted later to get upgraded?
you don't need spark to craft 246 vet bracers
i never said spark lol 😄
yeah, just vet crests and really just doing it for easy piece and embel
Ill PM you @jovial forum
I think I saw this posted a few minutes ago, but are we really raiding as Mountain Thane this tier, due to Blizzard continually nerfing Reap?
its just an upgraded version of blue gear from profession
apparently - and I fkn hate thane
SAME
I mean MT is slightly lower in ST for me in sims and lot of fights have random adds, 1st boss ST Slayer
but like 2nd, has the adds you gotta blow up at wall
Depends on fights, but for me thane sims only 2k behind on pure st
dragons have void spawns that are clumped
if i have main stat piece <240 (blue) should I craft those with vet crests? can always swap out to vet crest bracers if I get a replacement?
so would be shoulders with embel + weapon craft
I think every fight has adds or multiple targets (pally bros)
Anyone know who they’re watching raid tonight?
I think Averzian and Salhadaar are the two that look more ST to me
due to the adds being seperated and not really able to cleave
1st boss: kill adds after tictactoe
2nd boss: kill buges
3nd boss: kill salad orb
4nd boss: two dragons but they are far apart so we cant cleave probably
5th boss: three pallies
6th boss: we don't really know
I still think slayer for raid thane for keys. Reap nerf just makes it not the go to for key pushing but should just be fine if youre doing weekly stuff once season is in full swing
think the voidorbs from dragons will be good for thane tbh
there are a couple fights in raid that thane will probably outdps
Also depends on tuning and how fast adds blow up. Like if your guild is good and you're all just blowing the adds up on normal/heroic in the first like 10 seconds id argue thane value is lost
Mythic diff story obvs
yeah, was thinking the same thing
normal can prolly run slayer with imp ww and be fine cause shit will die so fast
true then you need bstorm to steal add padding
on every fight
My cook is slayer for heroic and below if your group had any sense of how to play the game then start messing around on mythic
only thing you are losing running imp ww is enraged regen anyway
which is illegal af
Sorry to be lazy but im having trouble finding anything about the Altar system, is it important?
Or its only open world stuff
the zulaman altar things?
yea
yeah only open world
oh nice for a moment there i thought we were back to borrowed power
Yea I REALLY fucking hate that they booked our aoe talent alongside one of our Strongest defensives in teh game
so crazy to me
you mean our only defensive...unless you count def stance
and spell reflect
hi does anything rotationwise change next reset?
i mean its not like we're naked without ER, but its giga illegal having it this way for warrior while no other class gives up power for their main defensive
i miss double heroic leap
if I die for grabbing imp ww over ER in normal raid Im blaming my heals
Is there any point to me crafting 246 wrists today if I'm at a decent ilvl? Would that be suggested over picking up something from the raid until I can craft a higher ilvl version?
you'll be missing out on arcanoweave embel
What this mean ? What is a BiS craft ? What I understand is we craft belt and boots but could be : we craft the best ilvl upgrade. But idk
Where do you get that we craft belt and boots? It says after crafting your weapon, proceed to craft your best-in-slot crafts. Looking at the BiS table that shows the BiS crafts, wrists would be your next target.
There's a tab next to "Early Crafts" that says "Best in slot crafts"
Is 246 the highest ilvl you can go with non-spark?
Oh thank you ! Didn’t saw it 
yes
Does that mean we can craft 259 weap + 2 embellished pieces this week
@dapper goblet this guy stole your name
no
read the dps faq
I been had this name since like early TWW
Xeos don't even play war no more
Xeos has been fake brown outside splits
i'm kinda hyped
take credit
I think my TBS and BB's will chunk
if i can shattering throw one of the paladins shields I will be so happy
I'm just here to slam
"get fucked paladin"
how the turns have tabled since nerub'ar
probably won't have to switch to Thane till Heroic tbh
for adds
Just out of interst, how much do y'all sim at currently and how accurate is that number in comparison to dummy dps?
Trueeee
Does anyone have a cooked excel with bosses and adds spawns etc? Would be nice to see where thane vs slayer
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/midnight-season-1-raid-tips do you mean something like this
Awesome I didn't see that posted
dope
wheres the same for arms
or does it just say go Fury 😉
just go to the url and replace the fury with arms
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/midnight-season-1-raid-tips if you're on a phone I guess
How long do we hold bladestorm for add spawns?
The raid tip should be re roll
Rip my beloved arms
or at least respec
How is Fury doing in ST?
I know in AoE we slap but haven't heard much about the former
just be like me guild and only have one warrior and be forced to play warrior no matter what then it never matters how good our dps is 🙂
at least you're worth the buff?
Yes , you help the brewmaster to outdps you
that was me, i was debating between dk and warrior but since we only had 1 warrior locked in, now one of our tanks went warrior last night and we have another so we're up to 3 kek
i remember switching to dk on h dim just so we could have a grip for the adds
I m the only one in my guild as well , same thing as you , we are safe
I do good usually orange/ pink parse
I'd swap to dk honestly but i have dk and ret both on retainer incase fury just shows out abysmall but I think we will do very decent this raid
lot of add cleave very undervauled atm imo
is it tho, theres lots of clasess with good cleave prio no?
I mean dk(frost) and ret both have pretty decent on demand cleave prio but i think fury just overall does a better job of it
unholy unfort needs to have dt or army to really do any decent cleave and by the time they have cd's things in raid are usually dead in hc/norm
Can’t wait to fight tanks , yay
bros raiding with 4 unholy dks lmao
Yep , seems so
They have a mist weaver lol
1 monk , no dh , there are some priests and shamans below the photo
5 DK but no DH for magic buff?
no DH while u have 3 warlocks is crazy work
Big yikes if true
bros raiding with 5 dks and 2 palas, youre getting tier set next year buddy
We have 4 plate lol
no DH with 3warlocks seems throwing
I know , rip , send help
Dh is absence for the raid , we have one but plays unholy , wonder why
bros whole roster chose mains before tuning changes 💀
Somehow my groups doing 8 plate, 4 of which are dps warrior
We're also a whatever-happens-happens aotc guild so we don't go too ape about comp, but T^T
how did u find that many warirors
I have no clue. Historically I've been the only one
Recruited them from this discord
oh if ur just 4fun, then it's chill
4 warrior dps out of the 5 warrior players worldwide
yeah lmao
XD
It does almost make me consider going enh for a season again tho... almost
imo you should play enhance regardless
it's actually so fun to play
I tried it fro the first time and it's so much more engaging and fun than most melees
it feels like a legion class
me when stormstrike procs
nah, it's lava lash now
it plays really well in aoe
it's st is decent, prolly need more haste
I consider dropping warrior on 0.5 if they go throu woth the curent changes , fck ww spam
probably worth playing other classes by then
2 months away
unless u can stand playing warrior nonstop for 8 weeks
instant ban from discord
zugzug is love, zugzug is life
im the 5th warrior
only one in my guild
as god intended
everyone else here has switched to dk
the best warrior players have went to other classes over the years anyway
I see people say a version of this in almost every clas discord
nah but warriors for sure
ive been playing fury since like legion 
all the good players have migrated to other classes/specs....creates a curious paradox
What crests do we craft a 2hander with tonight
the good players must eventually be somewhere
naeno, xeos, vil, apook, cheeklord
i dont think you use crests for the 2h craft
at this point if tmy, crit and eroka stop playing warrior
None
Well, now we are the best warrior players 😎
me when the best warrior players are blue loggers 
I heard the debate is actually if dps warrior is within 20k dps of the other dps option, then you run 2x brewmasters. Since brew is 20k above the next tank
Otherwise you go prot warrior plus brew
I have seen noxiv still playing , we might lose crit soon ? That will be sad
I heard if you recraft your weapon it keeps the enchant on it, is that true?
idk if crit's gonna swap
he loves war too much
and he's good at it
I doubt as well
if anyone's gonna make war look good, it'll be him anyway
then everyone else's RL is ognna ask em why they cant perform like critcake
tbh I could see them buffing arms to the point where it's good but still unfun to play
Desynca are annoying thou
wdym desync
doing it from the context of how crit felt about arms in s2 at least
imo arms is better now than it was in TWW
as far as pure fun goes
numerically awful
arms is fun rn it just doesnt do damage
that's g ood
yeah, i feel the same
well wait no good but
it felt fun on a dummy where i didn't have skyfury, lust, etc.
there's some hope there
i imagine it'd feel way more fun in a proper raid fight
it just sucks that execute is so shit
slam needs to get pruned
i'm opposite
i could give af about colossus m+
i want the raid slayer build to be fun and engaging
i like thane so i dont mind as much
I tryed messing with it in s3 in m+ and had desyncs , wasnt fun
honestly overwhelmed as a debuff seems kinda half baked
or rather it just seems like it's something you just build and have in a fight but you don't really do anything else with
Anyone knows if Ragedrinker makes Bloodthirst heal for 6% hp or is the extra 3% applied to the base 3%?
It states "additional" so i'd assume 3% +3% for 6% total
it's a nothing talent either way so who cares
Nah, Arms is mad clunky and the CDR issues make it even more annoying
Plus their hard on for keeping Slam is baffling
I think blizzards intent was to get rid of the nuances of combat and make things a bit simpler. And this is a reaction to that. I agree though. Overwhelmed seems to be something one can just forget about.
I remember playing around boomie procs back in DF and how fun it was to work hard for that extra dps squeeze. Don't think we have that anymore
Wanted to know for pvp but nobody responded in the pvp channel lmao. Thanks.
what is...a "pvp"
really?
because arms rotation feels less clunky than slayer fury on ST
we have to press fucking rend bro
arms also presses rend, but it feels less shitty to do so
Ain't said none shit about Fury
doesn't slayer fury also have cdr issues with bladestorm too
oh right
the whole 10 second vs 30 second hold for recklessness st or aoe
BS feels cheeks
Yup!
I find the Slayer Fury glaze confusing af too
making AM affect Av/Reck, but not BS was interesting
was it because blizzard thought it'd give too much power to a single talent
yo why server down
I mean yeah if both AM and Unrelenting affected it they prob didnt want slayers to be BSing every 10 seconds
i love reap the storm
Speaking of AM
I feel like it's one of the talents that actually feels good in this game. It does it's thing regardless in the background but how much CDR you get relies on you actually doing your rotation properly.
A lot of the times mfs in these Discords petition for some clunky ass shit where if you don't play it 100% properly you just fuck yourself out of dmg no matter what
in its current state, it feels wonky
Or Bladestorm to be tuned in kind. If you were BSing every 10 seconds that could still be fine and fun, but it sure as hell would take a hit for it and just be considered rotational as BT or RB at that rate.
I think we need to spend some time with the tier before coming to full conclusion
cos OF will end up being cast more
yeah OF is gonna be very rotational
The entire thing of Slayer reducing the cooldown of Bladestorm is a bad idea
Personally not enjoying slayer as much as thane this season. So im content with thane. Slayer BS is annoying tho
Would feel better with an off global offensive button.
Bladestorm should have been on AM and they should have redesigned Slayer to do something else.

if thane had a greater proc rate on the free BT casts, its single target would feel nice as well
Would feel greater in general including aoe
it's hard to make that not also turn aoe into a circus though
Ye bit it kind of meant to be the stompy cleaver, though
Unless during cds on 6+ targets
Makes you wonder if they should just ditch RB and add the reset effect to BT instead
I would like a rampage season
this is kind of a rampage season
Spenders should be strong and want to click besides enraged or rage cap
Rampaging Ruin could've been something awesome...
I mean in terms of damage and such. Generators doing as much or more then spenders is meh
Or higher prio
oh
I feel like we press ramp a fair bit.
You havw to for overcapping and enrage
BB feels good. It all feels good . Minus the clunky rampage hits that sometimes screw me up for my next gcd
Or like just add a little additional effect to Flashing Skies like "if only one target is in range, two lightning strikes are called"
Otherwise you'd judt spam BT
rephrasing: removing reap the storm from bloodthirst does hurt a bit.
Is NA maintenance over yet or nah
2 more hours I t hought
Are we getting M+ today?
next week
No, unless an intern leans on something they shouldn't.
so is Mainstat Weapon Enchant just simming for me higher or for anyone else?
funnily it says go mainstat chants on both weps, but for thane 1 mainstat 1 haste
when can warriors craft wep, is it this coming week
hi is that still a priority heard it gon nerfed
I could be wrong but on the linked Fury Warrior Midnight Season 1 Wowhead page the Stat Priority and Best Consumables are different at the top of the page than the bottom of the page.
you'll just have to keep simming it vs what you have for the best answer
wait till we can at least get 80 heroic or myth crests
Fuck bouiisss what happened to spore embellishment? Wowhead now says arcanoweave lining. (I crafted spore wrists)
if you don't mind spending a little extra gold to recraft it later, craft today at 259 (no crests used) and then later recraft with myth crests next week
word word
You can craft with no crest cost today
just so i know..recrafting will not take another 4 sparks??
correct
Nope
just takes like usually ~1/3ish of the original other mats
you guys are the real MVPs
shouldnt craft with hero crests
just craft champ today and recraft myth next week
Domo
You can use hero crests to push an item to 6/6 which will let a myth 1/6 in that slot be upgraded to 2/6 for free
Which is a big savings
Doing that 5 times is a free week of crests
The way crest upgrades work this expac is so weird lol
How so
Is primal spore binding kill? Or close enuff
Its the same old just at 40 crests now
my stoner ass needed a explanation or 2 to figure it all out
Read the comment directly above mine
You can use "weaker" crests to get discounts on the higher crest upgrades even before the direct trading up happens
Which is not typically a level of meta tech they allow to happen
lol yea I know of him. I've had this username since before WoW existed tho
Pretty sure this was the case last season as well
not really
Gear always was free up to your current ilevel
But it didn't cost, for example, adventurer crests to get to 236 on some items and veteran crests to get to 236 on other items (Numbers aren't right but just an example)
It’s the fact that going from 4/6 > 6/6 hero now only costs heroic crests, where before you had to spend mythic crests on it
Hey all
Currently sat at max adventure and veteran crests and 237 gear score
I’m watching videos on if I should bother spending them or not and getting conflicting information.
Any advise would be appreciated
Should spend adventure and probably vet since season starts today
Should absolutely spend all adventurer no reason to hold, assuming you don’t have that much blue gear and can upgrade all of it. Even if you can’t probably still the play
We're gonna start getting champ today so no reason to hold
If they're sitting at 237 after spending no crests, they have very little blue gear left to upgrade
save some vet for crafting, but you can otherwise spend it by the time you go into raid
and vets yea if you want to go through the hassle crafting a 246 sparkless item in slots you only have blue gear in is good too
eh I could see it as being like 5 or more blues maybe
but yea hopefully not more than half the pieces would think not that
mythic 0 are 246 and daily reset today
Also the new dungeons so you can get neat trinkets
crafting what?
weapon?
pieces to fill any blue gear you’re wearing
Or embellished bracers
Weapon gets crafted with sparks and no crests today
oh nice
They should've trolled and made it so that one of the non-season dungeons had a trinket that's BiS even though it's only veteran track
just direct questions to #1237307555961634826
so u had to get it in the first 2 weeks or get f'd for the season
that would have been great
I’m ngl I feel like the den of nalorakk tank trink is almost like that
It seems so fuckin op
Its still non seasonal m0s this week no?
like a free constant 1300+ crit
Or are they releasing seasonal m0s this week
I believe it's seasonal ones
Only downside is no strength on it maybe that brings its value down a lot
But I would think 10x or more crit vs strength would be worth it
If the math ends up making it good they'll nerf the piss out of it
but using that shit as prot I had like 45% crit
doesn’t go away if you’re in combat taking damage and don’t drop below 25% hp
Which in a 0 should always be the case lol
With the update and start of the season today is thane expected to do best for M+? And did the changes make Arms better than Fury for PvP or are you guys still doing Fury Slayer for PvP?
M+ not open for another week and #pvp can prolly answer the second question better than us
would think fury still better though maybe
Sorry for Mythics I mean
Wasnt sure if the Slayer changes gave it any edge of thane in Mythics
yea dungeons in general thane still owns
Slayer got nerfed more than thane
When thane was already better
so nawl it’s some poopy
That tracks
My buddy playing Shadow priest was already C tier DPS and got nerfed into the ground lol
thought they just got buffed no?
They got their aoe buffed no?
but idk spriest lingo
Maybe in pure ST raid
But like raid is mostly cleave and adds anyways besides a boss or two
Yeah they just got another big blanket buff today
Is that a net buff?
Apparently their Shadowy Apparition AoE damage went from like 200% to 60%
welcome to arms tho
maybe we won't be sub-par anymore
if everybody else around us also didn't get huge buffs maybe that'd be true
do we have an idea anywhere the value of 2pc/4pc
weird build, probably less fun to play because the whole curve shifts but CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgGDjxMsMzMzMDjZGzYmZmlZmxYmZbMPwMAAQMWWGYBMBzwEYG2AmZ2Y2GAAMzMDjZmhBD
ST will still be lower middle, unfortunately
Pretty sure Arcane got buffed for some fucking reason (with minor cleave nerf)
It might be a wash actually for ST
Cuz slinger got hit
Low. Somewhere around 4.5%
anyone knows what ilvl the epic pvp-items have? raidbot says 233, larias guide 246
Ok all I need to know is did we get nerfed
been known whats been happening for couple days #updates-midnight
mostly buffed for now
There will be the PvP quest giving 9 purple pvp tokens
yeah i know, but what ilvl has a pvp-item crafted with a purple token
246
hm, then raidbots is lying to me
its probably just crafting rank 1
Im not 100% myself, im also repeating what someone said
and not updated to say what max rank is
good point
how do you craft 246 with veteran crests?
blue item with veteran crests as the input
you can
found it thank you. I chose the wrong blue item xD
how long is the campaign quest?
feel like ive been playing for a couple hours and am still level 80 lol
probably not that long
oh that campaign
yea maybe like 6-8ish hours and you wont hit 90 from finishing campaign
will have to do some stuff after that tho
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9D8mFFC8MZwt4AMgHwumys based on my weirdo build. you can change it to the recommended one
like delve quests/world quests/dungeons
a couple hours and still 80 is kinda crazy tho
should ding within like at least an hour
yeah ill probably just do dungeons after, i did think it was weird though that after a couple hours not even 1 level
yeah i did it already, ty
yea idk something seems like wrong for that to be the case
are you... playing the right campaign...?
in midnight/silvermoon i hope
k yea idk should be around or almost 82 by the time u finish the first zone
if u just did the first scenario thing then yea not that deep in
are you the slowest man on earth?
It took me like 40 minutes each level aprox.
Idk whats happening over there
Maybe he's RP walking
And i'm by no means a fast leveler
god forbid someone takes their time
i only started questing yesterday, played for like 2-3 hours and noticed i didnt even get to level 81
im not even wandering around, just doing the quest and thats it
Can we do t11 delves this week or is it next week?
can you even do those quests if you theoretically didnt even own the expansion
might be open this week
get Update to the most weapon to craft ?
seems like the "is it plugged in" step of troubleshooting
Hey guys, can we actually follow wodhead talents guides for single targets ? What spec is the best right now
yes
Is there not a pinned message somewhere
pve pvp raid m+ delves open world
Sweet, mountain Thane for m+ and slayer for raid I guess ?
Si
Seems so
little bit of both actually
75% yes might play thane on some bosses
Slayer for life
thane probably gonna be better on mythic
We'll know better whats best for fights today i believe
I agree 💯
for crafting i don't remember how it works because the "world tour" spark quest is only 1 week per account but everyone should have 2 sparks this week right
3 I think
great ty guys
oh?
3 rn 4 after reset
thats what i meant sorry i should of clarified i was meaning the NA reset
if they aura buff arms again by 10-15% next week m+ might get spicy
colossus is already owning on aoe
i would take an arms good in m+ olive branch
Pray
miss demolishing
good
ya we got 2 sparks the first week plus 1 last week should be 3 now
4 after reset today
are u ready to cleave on st
die
lowk might be a hold crests til next week for craft angle
yup
but if u dont want to spend the gold recrafting to myth then wait till myth
ye
u can craft a 2h but dont spend hero crests
wait for mythic week then recraft/craft with myth crests
We crafting today with embellishment
yee
Craft today with embellishment, get a free upgrade on your offhand
Recrafting with mythic crests
This is the way
This is the way
What's the recraft cost besides the myth crest and the extra gold? Or is that it? Don't need the mats again, right?
If your not poor
you do need mats again
1/3 someone said
Good to know
wodhead
I missed a week's crafty thing cause i just bought the game, after reset today, will i be able to reach the same 4 stones as some one who has been playing since day 1?
One quick question , let’s say that you are lucky enough and the first week that the mythic + opens you get a mythic weapon on vault , then you will be able to have a 289 and a 285 weapon equipped right ?
I mean the mats are enough to do that right ?
how would you get a myth weapon from vault
there's no content this week that would award that
with the nerfs to gaze do we still wanna get it or is it just in line with other top trinkets now and not as important?
You cant 10 chest a M+ for myth rewards anymore?
i will get lucky and get myth weapon from vault next week 🙏
when do you think m+ opens, mega
no since even if you get the weapon you wouldnt be able to upgrade the myth weapon due to crests but in theory eventually yes
youre wrong
Oh wow
keys open next week and 10s dont get you a mythic piece out of chests
we gotta use a 2min active trinket now post-nerf 😭
vault yes tho
Yeah i meant the vault
technically\
I thought that it opened today
bonus loot
with raid
Why not ? You need more crests than the first week cap ?
bonus loot isnt till .5 tho
first vault will be next week, but we cant get myth gear out of it
yes
because theres no m+ this week or mythic raid
I just need to know if I can spell reflect tick of the Giant godzilla death beam on Vorasius
Oh right you need those extra 60?
you can try and let us know your finding
i mean from the point of how are you gonna get the myth loot from vault by next week tho
ooo that would be dope
no content rewards you mythic loot this week for next week
60 what idk you make a myth crafted weapon with 80 crests, then it only costs 20 more crests to bring a vault pulled myth weapon to max ilvl
Next week when mythic plus opens we can run them for the myth crests all of them for our 80
how are you gonna do mythic 10s or a mythic raid when it doesnt open this week lol
str 2h is prettty early in raid just kill first few bosses early next week and loot it
fym "early in the raid"
its the 5th boss 💀
its the 5th boss in voidspire or the very last boss in the tier
5/6 bosses
are champion crests also weekly capped?
5th boss was fractillus last tier 🤔
yes
yes
every crest is capped by 100 every week
Supposedly the 6-7 boss in difficulty
how many can ways you pull out 4 balls colored red blue green
3! ?
no!
red red red red
red red red blue
red red red green
red red green red
red red blue red
red red green red
it keeps going
And how much is the first weak mythic crest cap ? 90?
yeah whats the number
4 * 4 * 4 * 4
Or its 1 ball is 3! I don’t remember
256
100
you wont have enough crests
3 * 3 * 3 * 3
Idd
wrong
3!^4 ?
wrong
is it a bag with infinite red blue and green balls
answer is 15
4!, no?
this is to big brain for most warrior players sir
but 100 crests per week is enough to make a myth crafted weap and fully upgrade a myth weapon whenever you get one out of vault
is it with combination or permutation
we are good at discriminant analysis though
when math becomes more about letters then numbers
You don’t know how many each color there is for the 4 balls
i look at quant maths and question how dumb i am 
Discrete maths >>>> everything else
Graph theory is hella fun
de morgans laws were neat
So you need to multiply possibility of each x possibility of it’s your ball no ?
woah sir this is a warriors discord they dont know higher maths, yet alone discrete math
remember peopel dontk now what factors are in math
if you show them the ! symbol they wouldnt know
Im pretty sure the average person would understand discrete math a lot more tbh
its combination
i'll fit ur plane
as an old guy when did they introduce pmdas?
pmo
how cooked does it have to be when the fury warriors start talking about math 💀
yesterday lol
im doing my stupid chud multivariate analytics homework
6! / (4!*2!)
Was your question not implying a different order is not a different way ?
yea i read it as permutations with replacement
maybe
Hero tier piece or raid trinket is probably best case for vault this week
Ah I forgot about this stupid formular already
Hello si anyway to track whilwind charges with better cooldownmanager?
For the better
whilwind
get sensei resource bars
Bc 15 seems way small for a 4 step 3 choice thingy
cd manager does just fine
it should imply combination
sensei bars is great imo
How do u treack it?
but sensei has awesome visual for the whirlwind that is nice
dont even need CDM anymore tbh
track
bc i didnt say anything about an ordering
it shows me the ww icon with the amount of hits left
"how many can ways you pull out 4 balls colored red blue green"
You said ways of picking them
and the enrage bar is great too
he said how many can ways you pull out 4 balls colored red blue green
which doesn't really mean anything
my way is permutations though
Your serie being blue-red-green-green is different than green-green-blue-red
it treats RRGR different from RRRG
but then you would apply the other part of the equation
Just to double check with all the info that i saw, we will wait until the next VAULT to see what we will craft ?
with permutations its a simply 3^4 or 3 * 3 * 3 * 3
to make it combination
u send all veteran crests before the raid right?
U dont min max to save some champion crests right?
i think you can craft now and recraft in myth week which would let you recraft with myth crests
it'll make your offhand easier to upgrade
So my answer is still 1296 goober gio
This is the way
but its 15
are yall still on about the math
selecting n elements from a set of r elements where repetition is permitted and the order of selection is irrelevant would be (n + r - 1)! / (r! * (n -1)!)
ask chatgpt what it thinks
making my wep this week i know cloak bracers are bis but i want wep badly lol
( (12 + 144 + 20 + 3 Sqrt[4]) / 7 ) + 5*11 = 9^2 + 0 .
Get your vet gear to 250 so that your 1/6 and 2/6 champion upgrade will be free
A dozen, a gross, and a score,
plus three times the square root of four,
divided by seven,
plus five times eleven,
is nine squared and not a bit more.
copy and paste fed up
💀
too much math happening here not enough zugbraincell
that equation right there is when you use that pmdas which i think sux lol
Robot god infected us
are world bosses coming this reset?
yes
yes
everything but keys is coming
and mythi raid
cursed by artificial intel or is it Arcane Intellect
do you think are mythic plus build will switch to slayer
no
maybe
no chance
Thane is the way
in higher keys, lower you can probably do slayer
i think higher keys you can play slayer too
bstorm is rly strong in m+
it should just be preference
idk, id imagine thane would be way better espically in bigger packs then just BS
thane in m0's was hitting like a truck
considering BS has a decent CD
and rend will apply in whirlwind
while thudnerclap/blast is pretty strong without CDS
this isnt till .5 patch
reap the 57 is nerfed too i guess 🙁
and tc with rend picked applies rend too
but by the time of .5 youll be spamming WW as slayer soo idk man
if i had to id rather spam thunderclap
true
yeah unfort the whirlwind rend isnt coming out today
I miss pressing bladestorm
excessive whirlwinding should just send you into a bladestorm anyway
Any slayer keyers in the chat
at what amount would it be tho

howl being on a 45 sec cd is not good i like using it
howl isnt gonna be on 45
it got a +90 sec nerf no?
idk. maybe for as many stacks of overwhelmed there are on the targets around you. maybe it consumes them. pure brainstorming
furiously spinning even to kill a single target feels on brand
itd have to depend ig, i can imagine it doing that would mess up some of your rotation espically if it randomally BS you at certain stacks
dedicated aoe finisher?
any breakpoints yet on secondary stats before diminishing returns or too early to tell
Not even close, don't even have tier yet
Does NA have technical break or issues xd?
why?
because servers are offline
30 more mins
We're still 30mins out no?
season comes out today lol
From the official?
its very hard to get to the diminishing returns
dont jinx it lol
end of 2nd tier is MAYBE when we hit diminishing returns
it dont matter, my server is gonna explode for 30 mins when it releases anyways lmao
or if you somehow roll like 30 haste pieces
the snow boss is gonna be very interesting in high keys
Did that 3 seasons in a row 🙂 when the mythic + opened
only adding 1 piece of content
this week you can't
i wonder if bahjeera went to sleep last night he has been up for days grinding lol
servers might be up
For the craft do we do spark on 2h weapon and then vet craft bracrs w/ embelishment?
cant confirm as area 52 is massive
Nuh uh
do i have to get a vault full before reset or is there no vault until hc week starts
#gingiemp
the embellisment isnt limited to having 1 on a wep it was just a good idea to craft a wep if your rng sux this week in getting on in raid etc
dont think it matters lmao
no just like another long loading screen into silvermoon
its not an rng argument im p sure you just craft a weapon as a warrior period so might aswell sink useless crests into it now
lets go arcantina weekly
ez
no if you read archies comments in wowhead it was more an early on craft but you most likely will be crafting cloak bracers later
yeah later as in in like 3 months
no 2 weeks
first global gg
nice
This is the way
why is it not possible to craft wrist or feet (which do not need sparks) with an embellishment, its only available for shoulders, head, chest, legs..
how did you get your final spark sooo fast
arcantina brou
porlly picking wrong item
if it has inherent embell it cant work
is it 1 or 2 sparks to craft an armour piece
2
what is this guy crafting in 2 weeks then
Bonus drops will help, but I normally don't ever get mythic drops till like the last week of the season because my luck sucks 🙁
shiet i cant log in
someone on eu is already ahead of you
someone tell wallife he needs to sandbag
xd
logs r private i think
you think liquid is public logging? 
hello ! quick question : how good is anger management ? I love specs with 1 min cooldowns but fury is 1min30 if i'm right, but I dont know how much cdr we get through anger management
yea but i dont think they let them
ahhh
Angern management is a core talent, you're never waiting 1min30. CDs are up every 40ish secs more or less.
execute by sudden death is supposed to reduce bladestorm cd by 5s right? mine reduces 10s for some reason am i missing something?
Anyone watching the liquid split? Fury near the top first boss.
insaaaane tyvm, I might give Fury a try then !!!
what does rampage do differently when it lights up for proc?
this is what he played?
damage
He already is, aint playing arms
arcanoweave rank doesn't matter right? just makes the craft harder w/ lower?
Shouldnt be, but you can preview the product you will craft either way, so feel free to double check
did any talents change today/
no
guys what i should choose for M+ ? slayer or thane?
thane
So does imminent demise proc reap or no? Wow head says it still does but idk if the tooltip has been updated or not
it does yes
Interesting
Was that not something they announced they either were going to do, or did do already for both arms and fury slayer
Us players who can link weekly quest pls?
just making sure, we are crafting 2hand today correct?
I thought whirlwind was supposed to apply rend now?
thats in the .5 patch thats 2+ months away
if that even makes it to live idk
drinking game: drink every time someone mentions one of the 0.5 changes
me when i have suicidal thoughts
Any plans to close this discord untill fury rank 1 dps?
sadge, we need to unite and move to the protection discord until fury and arms are good
i meannn fury is doing pretty good for liquid right now lul
yeeeeah think we're ok
Wall is assembled differently tho
i went on 2 streams and only saw a prot warr, who's streaming warrior?
wallife
ah ty
i wanna cry for happiness
death in 26 seconds
he's been thane for 3 of the last 4 bosses. Just vorasius was slayer
whats the ST Opener for Mountain Thane?
go to wowhead
guys do I craft the polearm, axe or sword? I keep seeing different answers.
there aint no opener for MT
WF nullaeus already down xd
so is arms > fury now?
Wut
