#fury
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Slayer ain’t awful, it’s colossus that’s doo doo
than slarms and fury combined
play col arms now
no 🙂
its peak trust me
I'm practicing not getting rage baited
did u cancelaura bladestorm
thank you for the opportunity to refine my skills
and press cleave 4 times in a row

And yet you play warrior
I genuinely could not name a single diddy song
Lmfao
exactly what a top 1% listener would say
real
surely u can, like victory when he was still puff daddy
I would look that up but don't want to give any money to his estate
separating the art from the artist is for cowards
is that why u still like Kanye 
brother you need to stop with the slop
I will concede there are some kanye songs that go brazy
what happened to avoiding being ragebaited
You vibe code your addons. I vibe code my discord chat spam. We are not the same.
He did his best
I'm practicing
work in progress
I copypasted my addons, not vibe coded
Rome wasn’t built in a day
Different levels of being unethical
BigbowwlUI
LOOKS INSIDE
ElvUI
When I came Rome was a city of dust. When I left it was a city of marble
chills
All techno is now just AI slop
exercising human free will to copy paste is badass, using the funny matrix to copy paste for you is not
thats why i limit my searches by adding before:2020
Holy
ChatGPT help me find some good techno before AI took over from before:1984
buddy im using music forums that were closed in 2011
what do we theorize will be the next best trinket now that dreamrift one is nerfed?
is it? I feel like 20% nerf will make other ones better
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it will close the gap
GPT for the win
but its still looking like a top 3 trinket minimum for warriors
same one that trinket is giga good for fury
Passive mastery is good and we have exceptional strength scaling
and more apm= more stacks so fury zug zug
@modest condor s word mentioned
love when they nerf trinkets but it doesnt actually change anything and instead lowers everyone's dps that was using it
other specs swapped to better ones
fury still using gaze :)
Wow additional tuning
s word yuck
i havent looked at this expansion, but for the past couple of expansions we've had one the worst mainstat scaling of any spec
panda simming well only with str food for a reason
that's because mainstat is better than secondary, nothing to do with scaling
s*aling
does that change make Crucible of Erratic Energies worth running now? i know it was pretty bugged for fury before
Was it actually? Or only in sims? I thought most people were still using it for now
I think it didnt proc correctly for melee hits, but still procced for us off other random stuff
it is undersimming as in, it doesnt proc in sims
simmed worse than it actually was as well
@sullen dove they nerfed valeera leveling
what they do
they moved where the little bags spawn
"Crucible of Erratic Energies – fixed an issue causing inconsistent proc behavior for some specializations." hype?
puzzle already contender now i think it's confirmed
i will never use puzzle
non
you know you want to
I think the apex has helped solved that
@sudden tusk can't escape the puzzle
that is a possibility
So are we crafting pieces now or waiting until reset
they hit the second tower
still some work being done with respect to embellishments so i would wait
is rend being applied with ww a hidden fix?
no
Pretty sure that isn't online till .5
hmm, sometimes my bt doesn't send, or maybe it's a sound bug ? i'm the only one ?
well thats lame
wonder with the nerf to gaze of alnseer will it still be bis?
It would be nice if it wasn't. We have 10 raiders after it 🤣
Puzzle can give twice the damage that others trinkets i would still not use it.
embrace the puzzlebox

im sorry to hear that
if puzzle box is 2 min
and we're 45sec
how is it so good for us
do u just end up sitting on puzzlebox for 30 sec
LOOKS like its not updated
You mean how much potions and stuff to stock up ?
probably. depending on cooldown timing we might hold those as well for pbox
calculate per pull
Noob question here, what is puzzlebox? <.<
Sorry i shouldve answered to the thing i "counterquestioned" to. My bad
trinket from algethar
a trinket with a cast time
mb dracz i didn't see
did embellishments change recently on the wowhead guide?
@sullen dove are you excited
yes
what did they change to and from
oh they did get changed?
idk about from but it says two hander with hunt and wrists with arcanoweave
right now
they changed from the spore embellie. dwarfdude said what they changed to
I assume a two hander with myth crests is an ASAP craft cause of crest discount for another two hander
yes
ty
yuh, even if you get a 2hander in first vault it's pretty big
If they instantly die its probably slayer
got ya, ty
is there any point in doing delves this season?
I think the wowhead "spec per fight" recommendations are updated now but yes thane in M+
got u
Unlock to tier 7 today so tomorrow you can do tier 8
For the vault and gear
Only has to be unlocked on 1 character
ahh didnt think of vault wise
Famed slayer, i guess
I forget, do you need to do delve tier unlocks per character or per warband
Just 1 guy
coolio
t8-11 will be helpful yeah
Will fury be any good? Or shall we suffer once again
Average as usual
Are we crafting weapon next week?
impossible to tell
Wait? Tier 8-11 have a chance for hero track? Is that new?
very likely
sim stacks tell a false narrative
Ohh it’s at rank 8 nevermind
raids are mostly cleave i feel like we look worse than we actually are
(raid lens only)
good to see spriest getting another buff, they were within 10% of arms and we cant have that
do we have a list of buiilds for bosses?
How we feeling about the hack and slash buff?
check wowhead for specific talent builds
I like it even tho it can be worse in some situations
consistency good
i dont think wowhead builds are updated for changes tomorrow
i mean the only changes tomorrow are an aura buff and a nerf to reap procrate, they dont influence talents
yeah there isn't much that would have changed
the hack and slash/reap/ww stuff is for 12.0.5, not tomorrow
your right, i went to double check, my mistake
Are we really not taking enraged regen this season?
how big of an upgrade is the tierset this season % wise?
can you please link that please ? To me their guide at raid tips still links to manaforge
wtf doesnt ww reset rend debuff but thunder clap does? lol
thank you boss
Because it’s not .5 yet
Rend is still iconic
What are the add timings like for the first boss? That could be a thane boss
i have not a single clue
Fury crafting a 2h tomorrow with 4 sparks ya? Do we need crests to do that?
nope is 259
You don't need crests
Ok ty
do you put the same enchant on both weapons or one on each
arcane mastery / berserker rage?
does it stack that way or just more likely to proc
did they remove myth crests from T11 delves? If we know.
its locked behind journey as usual
ohhh, right
ofc, why wouldnt it, just gives more haste
wasn't sure how it's working lol
you can drop massacre for ER
Tomorrows craft is going to be 259?
might as well, can always recraft it once you have the hero crests
yall have four sparks? I'm maxed at two. If you're crafting a 2h you'd have to wait until week after next.
You're supposed to have 3 this week. 2 from weeklies and quizzes from world tour quest
You get the 4th tomorrow
yeah u should definitely have 3 with a 4th tomorrow
no
bad
wait why lol, it takes no crest to make the base version?
yes
Do not craft it with hero crests ever
Flat waste of them
Myth craft next week
oh sure, you can recraft to whatever* if you're not a myth gamer
just some m+ but ye
I mean
Its srill useful for folks not myrh raiding to not spend 80 hero crests when you're gonna upgrade to myth anyways
Its only like what 10s
7s gear i thought. Was gonna say 7 but wasn't sure
yea maybe
9s not too bad either way
either way think the pre heroic week should give decent amount of time to juice us up for em
better than getting thrust right into m+ with no raid gear and getting roflpounded
oh right we can't even do them next week
I think we'll be like 250-265 by time of next week
yeah I suspect 9-10 won't be too bad after one week of some intro gear
future seasons tho less important u already have bis myth gear from previous season
Should be fine for 10s
265 is crazy
I mean you have all of next week to do some keys
250 every slot minimum for sure without spending any champ crests but rest is like 1 craft and any lucky higher ilvl pieces u get from raid
Dome folks also have better rng drops
maybe 255 is max reasonable not spending excess crests
What gear is hero
Heroic raid
Ilevel I mean
Im counting everyone in my 265. Im assuming heroic raiders gonna getting some gear
You may have “a piece or two” at 265 but def not gonna be close to that on average
Are delve maps and stuff unlocking tomorrow
think so
oh yea my guild was saying some yap about hero gear being farmable from that idk how true that is tho
sounds too op
Should still be weekly map thing tho
For at least 1 hero piece maybe
Dont think you can farm hero
u have new preys tmr + delve map
you get 4 keys for hero gear from delves
But then again if you count the week of keys you can easily farm 10s next week depending on the day of thr week
feels like wow is betting on dads that only play one a week but still sub to wow which isn't a bad thing
So 265 might be somewhat reachable next week with some spending crest
The average age of a wow player is older
So yes
basicall every piece in hero track, you won the raid lotery
Hey guys, kinda new to this whole thing, so I should save my crests to craft a weap for tmrw?
ironically i feel like if you want people to stick to wow longer you should have them play less wow
you are allowed to have a druid/rogue alt
Does the level even matter. Espiclaly if she's just gonna be a healer
Im at like level 18 and cba
Quizzes?
i don't plan on putting valeera as healer
are we going to be slayer or thane for the raid?
Huh
slayer
What role then and what you gonna play
both
bit of both
slayer for single target only thane for any mt?
depends on the fight like always
Valeera Dps and I do it as prot most likely
Ic
kind of but thane is only like 1% behind in ST so as soon as theres a 2nd target its just better (imo)
Is her dps any better than bran
maybe a lil more than 1%
but the ST difference is extremely slim and thane gaps on aoe
its crazy that we are in a spot that we don't even switch to arms for ST like we usually do in week 1 and 2
is thane really pumping like that now? thought slayer was further ahead for raid still 🤯
perhaps I just sit in thane
they keep nerfing reap which while small adds up to close the gap with Thane on single target, while letting Thane get even further ahead on AoE
why fury needs any nerfs at all to begin with, I would like to know lol
they really don't know what to do with arms
guess I hadn't accounted for the reap nerfs
warriors aren't allowed to have fun anymore
not since rashanan
its because reap can proc off of natty executes obviously 
gotta nerf the bug
and then patch the bug
I'm pretty sure it's actually using the same code from the RB tier set lol
delayed animation and all
the seven nerfs in a row incident
war flashbacks...
man getting neck drops from m0 
i got 4 helmets
oof
im shocked that slayer with bladstorm is recommended for at least some fights.
thought I was making it clap all the way
isn't burst usually better in raids
what movie
i traded one
i got two items drops and i got two dungeons left
so no invite
next time u in joisey we can go to dennys
just had a tbone dinner
(kinda ass but still kinda fire)
was movie good?
what is a 'high' amount of single target damage right now?
ya idk was enjoyable
But is it ass or is it fire
no spoilers, I read the book
60k or so
don't want the movie spoiled tho
shrimply dont go to dennys for a steak
yea i vaguely remember a trailer i saw once a while ago
yea but i wanted a steak havent had one in like a monf
forget the name
big grandslam enyoyer
Wouldn't it been better to go to a place decently known for steak then dennys
Outback and shit
yea but i was there so no
also texas roadhouse omega clears and is like 5m away from dennys
too expensive and too late at night anyway
But went Dennys instead lol
was like 10:30
No such thing as too late
I do 40k on target dummy so im cooked?
those are the op classes
target dummy is fake
and idk 40k dummy prolly fine
does it matter if u make an 2h axe ovr a sword tomorrow
40k dummy seems good
no
aside from crafting costs no
think its the same alloys now
I was like 35ish on dummy but my gear is kinda beans
ok a guildie went axe spec over sword so just making sure
more people can do swords probably
you can enchants your stuff in your sim
im like 52kish rn i think no enchants
after crafting and if i fully enchant tmrw its like 62k maybe
but eh
my lock is 71k under the same circumstances
regardless i dont think hotfix has gone through yet right
where do I find sim I suck
so we sim 10% more tmrw anyway
can try to type in your character/realm name for a quick thing but to more accurately play with gear you usually gotta download simulationcraft addon and use that
Is it wrong that I'm legit shattered about the piercing howl nerf
nah that was fucked up
I fucking loved that button
90 seconds 
would happily trade the other buffs for 30 seconds back holy shit
ok well dont say that...
prefer my 10% dmg dealt pls and thank you..
This is why we cant have nice things
53k with no enchant
I curse you all
It's the right thing to do
fury having above average damage is just not aligned with the class identity 
oh dw we're still not above average
not close
but able to pretend to compete is fine
able to be a raid buff is fine
not again
why do the tierlisters have fury at A? just curious!
but but mYtHiC+
Am I going to spend the expac malding at dks again
nah demon hunters
i really only play m+ and it's all i care about
trying to decide whether i need to level warrior or dk. i hate unholy
they dont know what they're talking about
A is generous
but also baseless
frost p good now after buff I think
phisical comp with brew like this surely is fine right now

okay, thanks guys. you confirm my biases. i love you for it.
but play warr anyway cuz based
my group has a bear
gg
although maybe he is rerolling after the nerfs?
make them play feral
is ur healer a mistweaver
no
gg
why is blue cloth gear so bugged or something
supposedly harder to craft than purple spark cloth gear
Looks like the crucible void trinket got fixed in sim. Did it get fixed in game too?
crests give difficulty i guess
are you still leveling delve person? if so what delve
there was nothing to fix in game
Oh? I misunderstood.
grudge pit with my druid
yea it always worked in game just never showed what it did in sim
Yes, it does seem to be fixed in sims. It is registering as my best trinket.
yeah it owns
what tier and ilvl is druid
Whereas before it was 500~ lower
https://www.wowhead.com/news/powerlevel-valeera-in-grudge-pit-delve-before-season-1-380802?utm_source=discord-webhook
160 ilvl, tier 7 delve
are you doing the whole delve? since i assume its patched for the curios
it is very VERY long
hm
no i just grab those and i leave
atp wouldnt the school or pit be better, i also hear tier 6 and 7 isnt much difference
tier... WHAT
are there more changes on the way or is what's there going to be the totality
ima tier your 6 and 7
i don't kill mobs, i just grab treasures in stealth and i leave
how much xp is this?
the only xp
how bored are you to do this 💀
and it vary depending the level of valeera / like the total amount, at the beginning it was 150 for greens and 750 for purple
im watching videos so 🤷♂️
i hope this is not actually 0%
That bih is useless wish i could desummon and just solo it >.>
cant be worse than brann
I hate them both
do u have any reminders setup 4 heroic ?
Nope i should use em but i basically never do
Just look through logs and watch vods and build your own, the process of doing it yourself will help reinforce the timings and flow of the fights anyways
yea was just gonna record my first clear then go back and map it out
just wanted a look at some1s for reference b4 the raid
I think baze has all the vods from testing on his twitch
tyty
How close are Thane and Slayer for Mythics?
Close enough for preference or is one clearly in the lead atm?
@slim coral get whomegalul'd idiot
dont think his vods r up 4 it
With buffs do we think we will be A tier ?
he has video guides up on his youtube as well i think
thane is like 15% ahead in 5t which is a lot, but also if you're not doing like title keys then who cares
They are up
Ty, Slayer still top dog for single target?
Under highlights
ohh ty
https://lorrgs.io/
this might help you for reminders if it will still be up
A Website to compare top parses in World of Warcaft.
Still using MFO fights 🥀
yeah idk if it will continue
no, just because, sometime ppl stop idk
Real
how good is rend in ST
-0.6% if you just never press it
ah
last i heard anyways
or just play thane for everything and rend blow up
im convinced people who think legit feels bad just arent playing it correctly
not saying thats true for you
i think slayer feels bad
w
u r a beast
its probably timmy liking slayer
i thought thane felt hella clunky in dragonflight tho
but it feels pretty smooth now
considering it didnt exist in dragonflight
im not a fan of thunder clap
wait im i thinking of the wrong xpac
xdd
Tell me watching an entire SD proc just expire during CDs, or sending raw TCs over BBs is good gameplay
feels legit feels
shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up
cant feel bad if the button sucks
bring back condemn 🙃
wouldnt help
apex just needs to not reduce ramp rage cost
most cringe thing about it
press 1 rampage
press 1 global
agreed
at least couldve been 60 rage....
more than 1 time per avatar
then when the buff falls off
you hit rampage its lit up
and takes 3 seconds to go oh i cost 80 again
nope not weird. it feels bad
hi what is our best trinkets from the myth0s?
Probably puzzle box but god I hate that trinket
idk would assume fine just weird cuz 2min cd now but dont exactly have a consistent cd time
maybe for coordinated m+ pulls or something
can do giga dam with thane cd's
feel like some combination of kroluks, vessel, solarflare will just be better for most people tho
i hate 2 min cd trinkets
If you can line it up I imagine it’ll be quite good, but yeah most cases it’ll be just fine and feels shitty to use.
Got to 90, how fast can i achieve 220 tomorrow
the world quest itself should get you to 220 pretty quick
Oh good than i can go to sleep
they should be dropping 220
Hopefully no 80 hour patch
reknown gear plus wq's
Do we hold odyns for reck or just send it?
on cd
Hey all! I know the guides say Thane is best for dungeons on paper, but we know that it lags a bit on ST.. Is anyone planning to sack some cleave for ST and go Slayer, or we pushing Thor straight into the night?
its like 2% behind on st
and like 10-15% higher on aoe
thane is just better in m+ in every way
i do fine on ST during keys as thane
but slayer fine for lower/vault keys if u want
So just send it- okay, I have been holding it for reck
if reck is nearby you can hold like 5-10 seconds probably but more than that think wastefull
right just press/ single target as well
but also like tier will give some odyns cdr
so itll prolly desync harder
then u def dont wait for those
plus AOe and stuff is kinda more important imo, the more mobs and packs and such and its just more fun then just ST the boss in a key imo
I personally prefer thane anyway, I might be outdated on info in any case, I thought it was a bit more behind than 2%. Nevermind!
Fair!
i wanna do good in our single target but im concerned how poop we'll be compared to other classes idk
raid is coming up next week
this upcoming week*
more frequent aoe on thane, no ww pressing either, but still get the buff. seems better for fast aoe runs
the bigger the pack the better thane is as well
i'm item level 244 and did about 38k dps on a delve boss single target, doesnt seem that good
tomorrow*
where @young swan
what build are you running in delves?
prot
a slayer M+ build
xantages
4hrs maint 
lol i barely do less against delve bosses in MT prot spec
Are we supposed to craft a weapon asap tomorrow?
Cause we don't have certain crests to upgrade it, not sure if it's the play
You can cract a weapon with sparks tomorrow then recraft myth next week
True, didn't think of the recraft part
Am I the only one who has never used the renown trinket? it has always simmed like shit for me
What embalishment we want for that weapon? I crafted nothing yet
wowhead says hunt is what u wanna do on wep and swap later to arcanoweave lining when u have more sparks
Aight
getting cooked for no reason
that's for Arms - Fury will use a Hunt weapon all the way through, with just one arcanoweave on bracer or cloak
is hunt the most effective for aoe as well?
oh i didnt know what it was, havnt looked at it yet
ye
we playing thane on raid?
for some of the aoe bosses sure
I see, my fault. reading comprehention 0/10
@mossy veldt https://discordapp.com/channels/148872210742771712/148898695696482305/1483347733707489281 I was wrong see here
tbf its been updated like half a dozen times over the last week, even I barely know what the hell we're doing tomorrow 
kek
while that may be the case, the cause of me deviously spreading misinformation wasnt that it was just me being stupid
Do we have the api for max geared fury warrior sim?
loa deez
they gotta kill racials man
Yo @sullen dove why grab lfr gear tomorrow for set if m0 gear would be higher is it for the set bonus
getting 4p super important and a tier boss is out tomorrow
for warrior tomorrow what talent builds per boss are you looking to play
idk if "super important" is the phrase id use
big 3%er...
Pa'ku is best for fury
but yea sure if you get a lucky tier piece can help your raid with gearing/not prioing that slot to you
tbh its more about unlocking infinity cata charges
so every piece is good
9% for real men
pmuch only for the tier item
So would a lfr tier piece be better than a m0 250 piece of stats were the same
i mean by itself no
but you can make 2pc
and your raid wont give you tier in that slot
and it can go to someone else
thus furthering the raid as a whole
ahhh I see
even if you yourself arent immediately reaping the reward
im not running llfr for the chance that my raidlead wont give a hero piece on that slot
smh
true
works better if the entire raid group tries to do it
rather than 1 person
but eh
how do you pick them and what is the default one?
no clue whats the default one but you go to zuldazar and then pray at the loa specific altar
why we even talkin bout this stupid racial
play pandaren if we minmaxing
fat fuck bamboo eating bitch +50 strength w
@radiant plank GC
I’m a panda
Slayer for most
most 💀
My pc died
yo gz on the pc trial
calm down buddy

sorry i needed to lash out at someone
Yea i assumed that sorry i should of clarified what i was trying to ask is there any modifications to the wowhead build that you would make for any of the specific bosses my guilds having me bring a warrior for splits and potentially putting me on it since they needed to fill a melee spot this tier and i'm a flex player
Was gonna upload arms guide but it’s deleted now

It’s more like half actually I think Archi should have it on wowhead for what to go for each boss on heroic
Alright i'll look again tysm for your time
or just take it anyway cuz 0 dps gained from not having it and not swappin that shit every other boss
yeah you only lose ER/Warpaint for it
Rip er
I had another question if you don't mind i know it's on the rota guide but i was more curious about the general use of it how much dps of a gain is it actually using rend/throw on st for slayer i know some classes do stuff like that but get a very minimal dps increase
fucking insane two drops in total off of all the m0 dungeons
Is it the same as that or is it noticeable if you play it correctly
So we craft tomorrow 2h weapon with hunt with 4 sparks?
With what crests?
And upgrade it to myth asap?
obviously it lists it here as extremely small but i was more curious i guess on "how small" do you mean
like .5-1% max maybe
Is that void zone trinket simming wrong or is it just bad
if you play thane you dont think about it tho
Is that for both or per rend and throw
yea that's what im asking for ye
since its lot longer cd only every 45s
i havent played anything but thane due to me just doing the m0s and logging out since there was nothing to do this week
but like its more dmg than a raging blow
rend is a 0.6% gain if you use it properly
so up to you but doesnt rly matter
Alr tyvm i appreciate it
throw is about the same
Rend is so low I would wager that if you aren't 100% sure on when to use it the suboptimal usages will even out any dps gain you would theoretically see.
its not thaat hard to use?
if you cant bt or ramp outside of cds? Refresh/apply rend
thats it
^
Also if you don't mind i know warrior used to cancel bladestorm when they'd overcap on rage to then instantly rampage or on arms use their spenders is the st rota expecting you to do that or do they expect you to full channel into max rage+ and then use OF while still at max rage
never cancelling bladestorm
can probably send a rampage before slinging of right after if you want tho
a lot of that stuff is xpacs ago
either way think usually odyns before going into bs but kinda whatever
Yea right now i'm Charge-Reck-Rampage-BS-OF-Rampage-BT-Rampage-exe during procs
prolly wanna make sure youre enraged going into bladestorm
either press of or a rampage
but likely rampage to spend some rage
ok yea
B)
anyone know how to make the tracked bars bigger with the new ui crap? Like I have a bar that comes up for tracking improved WW stacks. It's tiny and I can't seem to figure out how to move it either
Off topic question if you would know but do you know how to make it stop showing that rampage is available when it's not during reck
Rend/throw is .06 over just spamming RB last I heard
whopping 1.2% combined
they really doing away with dots is kind of wild
there should be some addon think archi knows exactly to stop button glowing, but ramp should always correctly show as being avail during reck, the only time it bugs out is if its avail during reck at 50 rage, then reck falls off and ramp cost went back up to 80 and it still glows
I might not be in a top 10 guild but i play like one 
other than that maybe happening once per reck usually its correct tho
yea thats what it is
the spell opacity itself doesnt go away
yar..
so it was confusing me at first and i just didnt know why it was actually happening i assumed it was that case i just didnt pay attention enough to fully tell if it was what was causing it
ty all again appreciate the help
Any g with an answer for this one
are you guys capping out veteran crests?
simming wrong
no
Ah thanks. Do we know if its actually good then?
I saw Revvez have it equipped so I do too
Smart
It's fixed as far as I can tell. It sims as my best trinket now.
Instead of 500 lower.
Might have been fxed in sims then
So just to double confirm, my brain seemingly dont want to understand. We are waiting until we have Myth crest to craft? Dratnos just said send it on hero crest.
1 button rotation
do you need to attune the erratic energies trinket
Which talents? All pre made talents I see on webpage like icy veins are tagged as mythic+. Do you use them or have a custom one for raid? I have played only slayer single target and slayer cleave
I mean, talents for thane aoe raid
just send it tomorrow maybe?
Dont know maybe @edgy widget the wise warrior God can bless us with the answer
i am pretty sure you can just craft tomorrow
and then recraft mythic week
or when you can get myth crests
well
you cant craft any weps over hero track crests looks like
well its vet max then hero max from the menu
unless it was bugging out for me
So you can recraft into myth track?
unless you want to waste 80 hero crests which would be VERY bad
or want to spend 6-10k on crafting a blue quality wep you prob just wait for myth track crests to be available
huh thats weird
no normal crests showing might be a bug but idk
I thought you can’t use champion crests to craft?
spark without crests is 259
Yep
Hi guys ! We Will all craft our first weapon today right ? 😮
How does Fury sim compared to other speccs, if we sim raid cleave ? Is it still very mediocre ? I know arms usually loose a TON of dps when speccing cleave/aoe. Has there been cleave sims or is everything just pure ST sims ? Not many pure ST fights in raid 
ty to whoever updated the fury sims on bloodmallet 🙏
Thane is expected to do good in raid
Slayer might be better for HC week since adds might not live THAT long
is the bloodmället profile using embe weppy
click on character profile (it is )
embe weppy isnt arms bis :(
mby not BUT u will prob use weapon
for ages if u craft
but i presume u need both sparks and shit for it
coz its pretty decent on fury as well
anyone have the old fury sims before the 10% buff? didnt we sim the same?
no it isnt
no previously we simmed around 93? i think
we are in fury but talking about the trinket is for arms 😄
you're crafting a 259 weapon tomorrow with your sparks
and then you're crafting a non-spark 246 veteran or pvp bracer
next week you'll recraft to myth
week after that you'll recraft your bracer to myth (or whatever you have currency for)
There will be a post in #updates-midnight tomorrow
i mean i mentioned it becuase its the first time ive ever seen a crafted trinket be up there
was suprised
259 craft to myth recraft bigge
yeah but only because this time the decks can be upgraded
its a higher tier craft than usual
base max -> myth recraft based
usually DMD decks are meh
hmmm, i was pretty sure we did around the 100k mark, and thane was around 90k, but seems like i am wrong, thanks
thane i think was around 90k slayer 93
it's gonna keep going up and down as they change shit, don't hyper fixate
then 10%
What if I craft the trinket instead
they will have more tuning myth week
craft me a kebab
Really think sending myth crests into bracers mythic week 2* is worth it for slightly more power on the first raid?
absolutely not
weapon is so much more valuable
Craft me a pink sword with rounded edges
read the parenthetical
You mean "whatever you have currency for" as in after making all other upgrades? I've read it 3 times and still don't really get it.
put whatever free currency you have into it
I'm not holding your hand here, just use your currency however is best for you
I don't think sending either hero or myth track crests into a crafted bracer on mythic week makes any sense tbh
But it's just a sim angle probably, won't worry yet
if you have more myth crests than items to upgrade, use those
if you don't, use something else
if you don't have anything, go do the story mode quest to make it heroic
first of all, that would be week 3, aka the second week of mythic
Ah yeah nvm forgot about the free hero crafting quest, my bad, all makes sense now
you also skipped a week
but moreover, I'm not going to write out explicit instructions for every single person who is raiding Mythic, Heroic, Normal, LFR, or still doing M+3s on week 12 - I have full confidence that people can figure out how to use whatever currency they have in the manner that suits the items they have best
and if they can't, they'll get more the next week lmao
do we need to get the 4 pc bonus to unlock catalyst charges dropping or is 2 gonna get the achievement?
but i like it when you hold my hand. im just a dumdum orc
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so tomorrow we craft a spark weapon with Darkmoon Sigil: Hunt and can craft a veteran bracer now with Arcanoweave Lining, right?
I'll give ya a pinky
That'll do for now. But i'll be back for more
Thats my plan to go too
How many sparks you got? isnt a wep like 4 sparks? and we get the 4th on reset?
yea we get 4th on reset
or are the trink and bracers non spark?
And PvP doesn’t cost if you are fan of that
Ah right. What about the trink then
Im planning on waiting to see if any m0 or the raids drop a wep. maybe wait for vault too and after that craft if i dont get anything good
you need to craft mythic weapon anyways next week
In M+ week you will want to craft a weapon anyway
dont care about the trinket tbh
why do you "need" to?
You need 2 weapons, and this loot will need crests to upgrade… if you don’t craft a weapon
Because there are only 2 weapons in raid that appear very late and vault is not reliable as a source
if you dont mythic prog, then you dont need a weapon, sure
im not a mythic raider
but i would recommend a weapon even for a casual
And crafting a 2h weapon is not bad as it will give us discount upgrades in case we get one in vault
Fair enough!
Assuming myth track, obviously
so you guys are crafting immediately when getting the 4th spark?
Might do
direct all questions to #1237307555961634826 - it will tell you exactly what to do
Alright, well i have raid anyway tomorrow, so will wait for that and m0 atleast
How to craft nonspark items? Need proffession? Cant make order?
Thanks vm
what happened to the improved whirlwind now applies rend? Won't that come in tuning today?
So am I cooked if i crafted an item with my 2 sparks already?
a little but if it was a bracer or some off piece its what you wouldve made in 2 weeks anyway
not that big a deal just kinda dependant on raid/m+ weapon for a bit
Yep, crafted wrists, so just a dmg loss at the start of the season but will catch up fast, noted
damn :/
If the 0.5 changes was about to drop, we would be doomin 
meme or typo lol
xd
@edgy widget
He would tell me if it bother him
I am sure he is happy to see that it was you 
how early we feeling servers comin up
surely not any earlier than an hour before promised time right
for prime alarm setting time
Putting money on an extra hour of maintenance
Im betting on less than promised bc no m+, so no world first +2s made by Blizz devs
Is there a reason why the raid thane build takes 'storm bolts' in the thane tree, but not the storm bolt talent? I've noticed this a few times with various builds, do I just grab storm shield instead?
dead talent either way, you are not picking intervene either
So I did a couple of dummies as Slayer... it's not that bad...
But yeah >_< fuck Rend
just checked bloodmallet, holy raid trinket bonanza again
guess solarflare prism and heart of wind will be the alternative play
im not touching that vessel trinket
new DPS values dropped
So the guides usually go for Wrecking Throw & Rend over both RB & Crushing Blow right
But the sim does prio CB before both (not RB)
Is it hoping for crits with crit dmg bonus?
What is this everyone said to keep some veteran crest to craft items
ok I read it again & I was being blind
holy unholy really got nerfed 
BB is on cooldonw
And no reck, so CB is dead
I was just being blind dw
Does that mean we CB > BB in reck ? What m i seeing ?
no
the reason the sim is pressing CB over BB there is because BB is on cooldown at the time
No
Ooh , got it
I was just wondering if CB was above Rend & Throw during Reck & it is, I just read the API wrong
I'm an idiot
Ignore it
Yea , i was beginning to wonder , nvm than
Throw & Rend > RB only outside of Reck
During it, ignore em
Also not currently having tier set so OF will be pressed more often which will smooth things a little bit outside of Reck too, hopefully
Im really wondering if the adds fight in the raid will be enough to put us above the middle of the pack in raid , since we dont lose anything to aoe
Hope we get good adds timings
I'm mostly wondering which fights will be Slayer cleave & which ones will be Thane sustained AOE
Council fight definitely is Thane
Other than that, unsure
are you asking for ansurek situation ? 
Guess so , but how much begind will slayer be in mostly 2 target cleave , with added 3rd from time to time
That's Vaelgor & Ezzorak situation
Theoritically 2 targets
But do we even hit both or more that often
Even on paladins , they buble early , one goes into phase , so mostly 2 targets
Meat Cleaver for Thane is still quite big
Timing an Avatar burst on 3 targets will do a lot
Ill try and watch liquid for adds timer tonight, to get an ideea , if they will do hc
True , i expect to play thane there as well
sunfire silk is simming better than arcano for me, hmm edit: actually the difference is negligible
Keep in mind that recommendations are always assuming bis gear
So if anything else sims better use that
yeah i guess silk is better for pure single target, but almost all fight will be cleave
so probably arcano means better parses overall
arcano helps other players as well
yea exactly
Void adds may make thane worth it but depends how quick they die
I been MIA but wtf is wrong with these devs
Really I’m thinking paladins only thane fight, vaelgor Slayer MT? And 2nd boss potential Slayer MT
Rest Slayer ST
Thane may be worth it over the ones I listed as MT
But if adds are insta blown up I’m not sure the loss in ST will be worth it
Just my feelscrafting though
Is it bad i like the thane playstyle more then slayer ? I wish thane could scale ST better so its better in cleave fights but i have a feeling that cleave fights are better for slayer :(
How is the midnight expansion? How is Warrior feeling? 💪 
isn't thane only 2k behind? I think it's w/e
Prob thane every boss
will see tho
We vibing and hoping the .5 patch doesn’t ruin things
Bad
My thane sim
Is quite a bit behind my slayer sim
Will have to double check when I get to my office
Really? I wonder what causes it, I thought slayer/thane uses approximately same items/stats
interesting
The...talents cause it
