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of course not, thats why we sim, and log, and then compare, and go, wait, fuck this thing
Trying to figure out how to spend my KP
depends on how they sims
ye its mega simming for me too but i havent tried it yet
single stat great for stacking or filling out a stat you've gotten unlucky on for other pieces, if you havent gotten any haste gear to drop for some reason, having a juiced haste piece can be helpful
yeah, those pics are from a boss fight
axaxa so its just ass
Fair. Hmm, I wonder if its something people are going to want a lot. Engi has been really disappointing since the DF rework.
i don't think so, some may
but its the same stat budget and you can generally fill more holes with double stats
Only 65 KP to learn everything. Hmm.
on ikuzzza the light hunter it didn't even explode so didn't even get sappy demise damage
Guess the other question is will anything else in engi be any use this time
pumper
i went all in for crafting fishing poles for the memes, it is not useful, but i feel satisfaction
haven't played warr in a while, do you just prio bloodthirst over rampage and raging blow doesn't buff rampage anymore so you only cast it when bloodthirst/rampage on cd now?
Simple version is Ramp to avoid rage cap or keep up enrage > BT > Ramp with a couple of extra things thrown in depending on spec and situation
For the moment
The WoWHEAD rotation guide for Slayer Fury Warriors makes it look like Raging Blow (RB) isn't used. Is that correct? When I test it on a training dummy, using RB while having the Whirlwind buff deals more damage than using Whirlwind itself.
Ohh ffs lol i wasnt digging the guy at all lol im using his video to help get better.
I was questioning the fact that other guy mentioned hes peaking 135k yet the video is showing peaking at like 100 and therefore questioning if im missing something
You may be looking at the "During cooldowns" list, which has Crushing Blow instead of RB.
It says what you mentioned for ST (Single Target) situations, but I’m talking about AoE situations. It doesn't seem to be mentioned there.
Hi, are we playing thane in m0's? and what talent are we running?
Thats what you guys also get on training dummies, right?
Peaking sometimes maybe at 110k
Oh yeah, you're right. I take it that it is more valuable to refresh Meat Cleaver stacks than to hit RB.

Comp gatekeeping M0s is ragebait, don't take it.
What build would you play for Thane ST? Do you still keep Meat Cleaver or move it elsewhere?
Ye i know. I mostly make my own groups or do guild. Just can imagine new players being disappointed
I see. It sounds like maintaining the buff for a smoother Rampage/BT/BB sequence is more valuable than the slight damage gain from RB. Thanks for the insight!
shiiit farming big dam
If you want to have easy m0, here is the trick:
Make your own group:
- Set title: m0: <DungeonName>
- Set type: Relaxed
- Invite the first ppl that sign, the lower the ilvl the better
Good job, you now got a run that will complete your m0 with basically 0 effort.
I did type below that i do my own M0s or run with guild. This was mostly me being sad for new players seeing that when they look for groups. But thanks Funky ❤️
0 effort is best effort
how much better is thane over slayer in m+?
If u were making a grp rn, with you as fury, and its an actual key, what classes would you look for to do say a +10 with just enough gear?
I make my own groups and invite four Monks so I can get that sweet 20% extra phys damage. Altho sometimes I'll do two Shaman for 6% mastery double hits on windfury and double Lust.
how do i get own/target hp bar like this? (and for boss hp bars on the side)
4 druids, all able to go guardian if we get stuck - that legendary 10 will be completed no matter the cost
So on reset we are crafting spark 2H with Hunt or Spore Binding?
That part of the UI is called unit frames, so you can search your favorite addon with that
well guardian get nerfed....I was talking seriously as im genuinely interested
You said right now
ahh i see, i got unhalted unit frames now
ty
You have plenty of addons which do that, just pick the one you prefer they all allow you to make similar as your screenshot
I don’t think the classes really matter
I’d probably get 2 fairly tanky easy to play ranged dps like BM Hunter and frost mage
blood dk, holy paladin, fury warrior, ret, and frost dk
Probably spore binding? Not sure the guide says it has the edge over hunt.
When i did a sim for one weapon hunt was on top
Don’t craft with sparks till you have mythic crests
early season gear stacks bis, 10s not gonna be hard
Can champ craft on tuseday and recraft eith myth on m+ week tho
thats logical though, i was wondering what you reckoned the meta would be
Since champ doesnt use crests anymore
Eh i suppose, still seems like a waste
mage, guardian, fury, resto, and idk?
are there any addons that let you select an ability to glow on your bars or is that still impossible
Its relevant to craft the two veteran pieces before raid?
Am I still talenting for bloodthirst with the reap the storm nerf
Or we can just skip
So we are crafting 2h this week coming?
then im playing brew, hunter, fury, feral and rsham
i only care about the meters need to flex some screen shots
What gonna be new flavour of the month class now?
us
yes
i wish to believe
believe it and you shall achieve it
of course fury is meta, every fucking key i go into seems to have one
Surprised that devourer dh is only getting 4% nerf
How does rampaging ruin actually work, it's not in addition to the whirlwind effect right
it makes it so when you have improved ww up your rampage changes into a different thing
Feral and hunter? Isn't hunter shit?
dont care, i just want my own damage to go up
im a slayer simp but that works too
yea idk wtf we're pretending a hunter buff is gonna do in m+
"keep reapplying it to every single target one at a time yep"
unless its not a debuff anymore idk
i mean its between hunter buff for boss and PI
or just a normal dps
i guess aug could work for meter screenshots
brew, rsham, feral, fury, aug, works for me
mm slaps
That’s almost certainly the best fury dps group for your own meter
Although both feral and Aug do huge aoe
So pad will be less
true, but gotta be synergetic
But yeah 8% strength plus the crit buff from Aug will be huge
brew slaps too
Hey, dumb question- I am checking the m plus builds on wowhead, and they dont run Enraged generation. I do not think I have seen any other dps not running a DR- what am I missing?
you can not take enrage regeneration without dropping a dps talent. Though i think as thane you can drop massacre for enrage regen if you really need it for a key
that seems.... odd.
yeah i do not like it either but it is what it is
you dont need enraged regen
me when i make things up
preemptive iv is broken!
kill it before it kills you is the strategy since classic
I rly hope we are playing slayer in the raid
Do we know if we want to craft x2 weak slots for raid week or weapon?
That's not what I asked.
Since we don't use sparks on veteran items and we do crafts in week before hc launches.
Do we craft x2 weak slots for embellishments or use veteran crests on weapon instead?
Most likely it's a weapon first
crafted weapon is 259 without any crests
Fury Warriors will probably want to craft a weapon first (now requiring four sparks, so it should be available on the first week of Season 1) to discount their off-hand upgrades.
this isnt the answer to what u asked?
lol
imagine being so stuck up to not read the linked post
'Now requiring 4 sparks'
You're still not reading what I asked.
Thanks for reply.
ST opener with M+ build, is it the same as the Multitarget opener as Thane?
this guy 😄
Feels like the ST opener showing in wowhead is missing some spells..?
prolly bit different
you get 1 spark every week now isntead of 2 weeks so it plays out the same way as in previous seasons
not prioing spamming tc on cooldown in single target
Could you write out the opener sequence? 🙂
idk it should just be on wowhead something like dont overcap rage > dont overcap tb charges > hit bb if previous two conditions are met
only like 3-4 buttons max maybe you would hit on st anyway in cds
Yea the rotation/priority list is on wowhead
but the opener seems to be missing spells for the ST opener sequence
what spells do you mean
uh i mean if youre just looking at the same page i am it seems like this opener assumes slayer
does yours have a bladestorm on it
Avatar, thunderblast
u dont have avatar if u have bladestorm
you have thane thing clicked?
this is slayer
Rend if we use that instead of thunderblast to get rend on the target?
no hes right
yea i mean this opener button specifically seems to just be for slayer
there is no thane st opener
regardless a little lower down u can try to follow the first few buttons of the "in cooldowns priority"
but pretty much its similar to multi target except you would bb a lot more often than spamming tc
yea p much looks right
like the second tb would be a bb for sure
Aight, so second TC replace with bloodbath?
Great, ty! I was thinking it looked wierd 😄
you just dont want to overcap rage, so hit rampage if youre about to be full, and u dont want to sit on 2 charges of thunder blast, so hit it if you see you have 2 charges of it
otherwise can smack bb
Yea the priority I got from the list below, just how the opener should be, so I dont get in muscle memory the wrong opener
yuh
Btw, we actually dont have a defensive cd with M+ build?
yes we do
I see we dont pick ER
defensive stance and reflect p much
Can just sim yourself and look at the opener that’s used
Feels kinda meh to not have a real DR spell
i just drop massacre as thane
reflect is op
are dungeons that harmless atm?
Even stance mastery is not recommended when not going for ER
itll remain harmless for awhile
even in raid
Thats great
And warrior has enough base tankiness anyway
Yea thats the thing Im worried about
Exchangeable imo
if brm gets shot sure
Thane or slayer for the raid?
Either BRM Fury or Pwar MW
pwar gonna be insane with the random ahh aura buff
BRM?
Brewmaster
ah, yea my mate is a hardcore brew player
Likely Slayer for most encounters
if its solid, he will play it no matter what
ty
well it will get shot at some point thats for sure
the question is will they nerf it to the ground and remove it from the game
if I elect to play thane for raid is that big loss? you know % diff?
Im expecting a small nerf into myth prog tbh
Bit of a gap but youre not griefing by doing so
Last i played was early-to-mid s3 TWW when we spammed RB for reap. Is the play thane now?
rb is legit useless now
Complete idiot question: Playing retail for the first time since original MoP, and the profession/crafting system is totally foreign to me. I'm planning to craft a 2H sword on Tuesday, but it seems there are a lot of factors involved in making sure the craft is as high-quality as possible. Is there a basic guide anywhere that would help me avoid screwing it up?
Play is thane, and what warrior2 said, we barely use rb now
Highest quality mats then find somebody who specced into making that type of weapon.
im sure could search profession guide on wowhead but it boils down to
getting a bunch of skill from normal BS level, same as before,
putting "knowledge points" towards the weapon type you want to make like swords/axes/maces etc, to craft them with more skill
getting profession equipment that gives you even more base skill, up to like an extra 40 points
and higher quality mats are like the final main thing
Do not have a SIMC for fury?
if you wanna try to do it yourself its not "that" hard but a bit of a learning curve just to catch up but yea the alternative is just like asking in trade chat "can someone craft x item" and usually they are real humans that can do it
thank you both!
but like for example you'll need like say 500 skill to craft a weapon at max value, so like 100 of it can come from base skill, 40 from prof equipment, like 1-200 from knowledge in the spec tree, and maybe another 100 or so from higher quality mats idk the actual breakdown
but the goal is once you have all of that you can pretty much just make a max weapon, though you may have to use some like concentration which is a timegated-ish resource to "boost/guarantee" a rank 5 once you are past the skill needed for a rank 4 which is fine to use in a one off like tha
and i mean its pretty easy to get do a decently high level in profession if your sole goal is just to like max out one branch of a tree you can probably do it in like 2 hours of figuring stuff out
Got it. Yeah, that's the piece I was missing--wasn't sure how skill worked in the formula. I was planning to craft it myself, but my skill is way too low at this point to get the highest quality craft.
side bonus to doing it yourself tho is u can then fulfill other people's requests in tradechat when they want weapons throughout the whole expansion and it might be a decent way to make passive gold, assuming they like supply their own mats and tip decent enough which i would think most people do by now
yea bs is one of the hardest to actually hit 100 skill on i think
i have like 85 or so myself
but getting as close as possible should be good enough
Gotta ease off on the “likes”, buddy.
but yea this my basic window ive maxed polearms and i have 280 skill, to make r5 every time with no additional cost is 440 which im not sure is actually fully obtainable but getting rank 2 mats instead of the rank 1's i have will boost the skill by a lot more, and once/if i pass the 352 threshhold it says i need to guarantee rank 4 then i can use the concentration to guarantee boost it to rank 5 and it'll consume like 4-500 out of 1000 banked concentration that regens slowly every day
so pmuch your goal is just make it past guaranteeing rank 4
like these nuts
True
is it over for fury?
where did you get this from?
fury goes like here
hell yeah
yep, its always over for us, its over for every class.. best way to win is to not play
we are so back then
kitty rises
Two more tunings to come
truegi
Theres also a chance the encounters are better for us than for other specs
idk they're all in varying versions
was there any aoe sims on that spreadsheet too?
cheers. and i have only seen that excerpt not the whole thing @fortress
the overall balancing seems way better already at least
been a few xpacs since I played, do we have any root breaks? Or just SR anticipate
Given that two handers drop later into the raid not on early bosses is it ok to craft weapon first week even tho best would be the primal spore thing ?
Slayer has one with charge every x seconds but otherwise no
avatar right?
Oh, BS also
No
Avatar doesnt remove anything anymore
Removed from Avatar
wtfffff
Lmao
when
Warrior is just basically Detroit
once a great powerhouse of the American Nation - a classic
bustling with steel
now it's full of abandoned houses (warrior chars) and continually on the decline
make a game about our struggle called Detroit Become Human
Detroit become warrior
Rather a warrior than a dorky paladin
I think u always craft a 2hander
Not next week, on the 24th I mean
when you have the myth crests
Ye but next week you can do spark craft then upgrade with crests
since you get oh "for free" after thats prob the play
are there any new sims regarding fury after 10% or?
You probably wanna save ur heroic crests
unless I'm wrong
oh, what ilvl does it go to
For embelish week 1 dps go bonk
Was it 259 ? I forgot tbh 😂
Everyone goin panda on this season?
Not home atm cant check
Yes cuz we all go to rwf
leezgo
wel im goin fury so no
whats good on panda?
The food
where can i see that board ?
where is MT
I wish. no fun allowed
Well how is ferals aoe
bad
Because yeah fury is middle of the pack but it also just always does good aoe on top of ST
is thane troll for raids? or can i play it in all content?

Show 2T now
The only fight that is arms viable is the council boss p sure
And you would need a new gearset to actually play it
thane is like 3% behind on pure single target, like 15% ahead on 5t
Feels like a couple of these fights will be thane fights
Which probably won't happen
I'm p sure almost every fight will be thane
Might be thane fights early but slayer when everything dies in 0.05 sec
Yeah
hmm i see, i'll probably just stay thane for now then
Tbh I think this tier will suck ass for fury again like last tier, it's a bunch of fights with adds to burst that will end up dying too fast for us to do any real damage
After like week 1/2
Just vibes so far may end up wrong
did last tier suck ass for fury?
Manaforge was fun at first when we had time to actually damage the adds
Yeah wtf, last tier was golded for me 
Nah it was mid as hell
Adds got burst so quick you became just a decent melee damage to boss
nighthold skorpyron adds with whirlwind that deals full damage to 100 adds
But we didn't do enough burst for the actual damage amps
So we weren't reslly that good
So if there are no ST fights and the adds aren’t instantly deleted, aren’t we basically just going thane in raid too?
do i use thunderclap on cd for M+
The only thing holding fury back was lack of burst and the privilege of damage anps
i always use it at 5+ targets
But even then fury was fine just not optimal
Yeah which our profile was just so flat last season
That's my plan yes, need to look more into fight timings though
And it just didn't feel fun all the adds dying before you could do anything most of the season
Felt bland
its flat every season but wasnt great profile wise last season
How big of a difference is slayer vs thane in ST? im looking at boss guides and some bosses have 1 or 2 adds but i dont feel like its enough to go full thane
too many damage amps
@spare steppe I also thought that LoU would be an RA tier though because of fight timings so my opinion can safely be ignored
esp on the last 2 fights ofthe raid
khazix are you brown man this tier or
yes
i think im playing
will see
if prot stays good idk
its almost good enough to justify bringing a dps war > tank war
I trust your opinion more than my own, so I believe!
but what would be the second tank ? i guess brew is the monk buff
monk and possibly still bear
bear got like a 25% nerf but its still good tank damage
sims arent out yet but
idk though
it would be 2-3 druids
okok, bc i see a world where it is prot second tank
with rdruid/boomie/feral(never)
rdruid for sure
could be bear or feral
boomie good too cause a lot of spread cleave
Next week we can craft a 2h and then recraft right?
do you have alts to play if pwar is in or is it a bench angle
think most alts in this guild are sacrifices to gear mains so i dont think my dk or mage will be very geared
minus tanks and healers
How many splits do you do?
Hmm guys is macros still a thing? For rotatios and stuff?
If you want them to be
macro ava + reck
Cause looking for a list of more available macros cant seem to find
Saw a few shared in the macro posting
What are the veteran crafts for embellishments that people tend to go for? is it just replacing bad pieces? im so fuckin out of date on that regard
darkmoon sigil hunt i think
depends where u craft
is the one on weapons
but also which slot
weapon is hunt, rings was the element thingy and arcanoweave for armor ones
spore one is bad
wdym?
like u craft veteran gear depending what slots you need
diff slots have diff embellishments
i was told that i should craft with veteran crests for embellishment
I needed weapon + ring so I crafted hunt + elemental lens thingy
thats where im at rn
yeah but craft for ilvl first
unless u have all at 240
then 1 armor piece + weapon
I will prob do wep + boots
so here in my case i craft weapon with 4 sparks on wednesday and I craft e.g. whatever 237 is left by raid day?
My boots are 237

I have 2 vet emblishments on cloak and bracers. Ima craft a champ weapon on reset then recraft it with a mythic emblishment. Hope to replace the emblishment before tho
no
Yeah that’s the thing I’m hesitating, craft spark wep the 17th
would hold
u shouldnt use veteran crests for ups
^
what are we saving it for
Would be champ bass ilevel
Base
to save crests on champ upgrades
Thats what I'd be doing with my suggestion
of upgrading trinket to 250
i guess it would be better if i had 2nd champ track trinket huh
holding for that is better yea
Dumb question, do you need crests for a spark weapon
For 259 no
Cool wasn’t sure if it required champ crests
arent all champ upgrades champ crests
Each tracks cross the next with 1 lvl
246->250 champ 1/6 -> champ 2/6 is 20 champ
if u upgrade a vet piece to 6/6 you save the 1st upgrades worth of champ crest and etc
ye gng i aint doing all that
You upgrade your vet thing free to 5/6 vet (1/6champ) and then 20 for 6/6, your champ is free to 2/6
How much worse is Slayer for M+ than thane?
I doubt I’ll do that too tbf, champ doesn’t exist that long
Not at all, i think its better TBH. i swapped to Slayer and doing much Better
yeah when packs die during the first 3 seconds
idk about that
thane isnt gonna do good
for current m0s probably since things die quickly, but overall once you go higher slayers gonna drop off
yeah i mean everything is subject to change but right now im enjoying slayer more than thane
maybe cuz im so used to it from last season but i have a better time with slayer
yo whats that addon that shows enchants and ilvl
Hi i think have a bug for this talent
Explain
In the game, no countdown timer appears, and I haven't seen any difference in damage with or without execution.
I have a tracker for spell ID and even my addon doesn't give me a count.
after éxécute
So for the leveling guides I found, I tried them but I feel squishy and die during leveling real easily. Is Thane just the main one to use for leveling?
yup
squishiness is just a gear thing most of the time, content scales so fast you don't notice how undergeared you are lol
^
idk if i went below like 30% hp while lvling my warrior
pulling like 10 mobs at a time
purely cause im full bis
yeah i can pull 10 mobs and come out with full hp
Yea might be because I have 0 gear cause I stopped playing in dragonflight
I looked for some. But theyre all like 5k each
impending victory is a huge talent, use it after every kill and you can do multipulls
Ok no its not a bug, just not same look on icon
Frappe mortelle
Id go nuts with that as my action bars that's too much info in one place
the new catch up questing via the history book that condensates the TWW storyline gives gear quick
guys can i ask, after dungeon my dps ladder should looking like this ?
i mean i see my sim and thunder clap should be first
🥀
I think he is reacting to the hieroglyphs
but im not about it, im 210, i mean how should my spells dps on leaderboard
and how we should sim correctly?
You can’t properly sim dungeons
its cyrillic
i dislike french, but i like russian
hope that helps
I mean you can 5target cleave for 3min
💗
Thats how i sim for m+
I used to
brother its harder then chinese i swear
Also since you are 210 i wouldnt bother siming
Until m+ is out theres no point
i mean i wanna learn from details what am i missing in dungeon
The big barrier is the Cyrillic obviously, but the grammar etc is fine
Its more complicated than that cause there are many external influences
just so you know, you can't really improve through a details damage breakdown unless you've been playing criminally wrong. Instead, log your dungeons and log some other fights to improve
we have 10 options to say 1 word and we can say 1 word in 10 situations
You learn by playing and testing over time youl get the idea
Never trust sims blindly
Kronzo is German, he is used to that
In some cases last season on st i was doing more than i simmed in the raid (talking before prepatch)
Anyway, logging your dungeon might be more useful for your question, bc you can compare to others logs / post it here #1347646810457636974
some ppls reccomend me sim st always on fury but thats was last season
ye, im just waiting when someone can sent his pic
why raidbots sim me crit https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rKcJsF4hkWLC1W1qV138Vd
The shown dps on sims is the mean so it can be higher or lower yes
I know i was giving an example
Ots a great tool but its not always realistic and or true
Its a good tool for comparing gear
Like the 180 k aoe in 2 min you are not hitting that
i'm asking why this sim me crit not about dps
Im 246 and the highest i pulled in m0 so far was 140-145k range
Crit is good for aoe
It's our third best stat on ST rn
Crit always sims good in aoe
Always mid
Ye. But we're consistently mid rho which is better then not consistent
Till 0.5
For slayer ye. Thane not really
Always high mid*

no way fury is higher than ret atm
Depends on who the ret is
Are you gonna go thane st on raid?
If you're good no matter what you'll be fine. I have a mm who only plays mm hunter and his cracked
From the looks of it majority of raid has lots of adds or cleave besides like 1 boss maybe
Tier lists are an objective and true snapshot of wow at the moment they’re made. They are born perfect and accurate.
I also just play thane better
Im fine with thane
Thane just plays better for me. I cant get over slayer from last season
I have a zug brain
St just sucks peepee compared to slayer
I haven't really tested on dummies but my m0 st tha tive tested thane always did better
But again its a skill issue on my part
In m+ i dont even argue it
Thane is hands down better if you have a tank that pulls big
Personally i did more with slayer on st over thane
Ima just hope and do my best on raid for my guild. I enjoy key content more anyways
Guild isnt that pushy anyways and I cba to find a better or a CE guild
Off the top of my head last boss of void scar i did 43k st as slayer
And woth thane i did 36sh k
Idk its different every dungeon run. I've hit like 40-50ks as thane for bosses
Maybe sometimes 60k briefly
True
I have doubts about the damage meters working properly yet
But again I enjoy thane more unless its s3 of tww
Meters fine both blizzard and details
Its judt every other spec is popping off lol
No talking in general
But as long you do good on your end its fine
I was practicing fire mage aoe yday
As long you havw fun and master your class you'll be fine
Did 5 runs of 5 min aoe
3/5 showed weird numbers
Tho i stoped at the same time and or dmg done
On pne of them it replaced flamestrike with ?????
🤷♂️
they work they just suck
any working sct or still nada?
think they are all cooked
is there any information about if we should use veteran crest for off pieces like bracers and cloak with embellishment for week 1 ? asking sins i cant find any information about it
so theres no single target fight but kind of a mix of everything for this raid tier
is dungeon slice set up for fury or arms or is there a fight style archi has been working on besides patchwerk 1t
We don't use dungeon slice very much in general, usually just 1t 5m and 5t 5m
Hi everyone, how have the engineering embellishments been? Is primal spores still our BIS or can we use B1P and B0P without any big losses?
Does mountain thane and slayer require different stat priority? I adore thane and use it for everything but if I need to go slayer I want to be aware
u guys planning on taking spear for a few bosses next id to slow/root adds?
You can just sim it big dog
Stats are more or less the same
No
Maybe shockwave
So I have 300 veteran crests, I did all m0 and prey didnt get a single 240 wep should I craft one wep with veteran crests and im missing about 4 vet pieces should I craft with the remaining. Planning on spark crafting on tuesday the other wep
Probably better to just do daily m0 to get weapon
Wdym Daily m0 after the 17th?
Yes, after this reset m0 will be daily lockout and drop 246 champ 1/6 gear
So you can craft a 2h with embellishment and then do the m0s that drop weapons each day to hopefully get a second one
ahhh okay so what should I do with all these vet crests
Use them for upgrades and/or craft a weak slot 246 piece with a second embellishment
Okay but use them all before 17th cause most likely will be raiding that day
And than they will be useless
Thank you. I do have premium raidbots so will do. I wasn't sure if it was fully up to date with the recent buffs and nerfs of embellishments. On the forums I was reading that B0P had a horrendous proc rate for fury compared to spores, but B1P can out damage it in situations where the enemies are in the cone.
I think can sim every craft stats combo + embellishs combo on 1 slot on the same sim
Without paying
I simmed last night and hunt sigil was ~0.5% better in both single target and 5t than spores
I just realised that I have no coffer keys or shards.....is that right?
been doing most of post 90 content and havent had any drop
yeah they dont drop yet
thank goodness for that then lol
😆
does anyone know if there is an addon for whirlwind stacks – to show has 4 bars like the WA's?
@warm crag @clever belfry @oblique trail @young swan @slim coral @smoky vale @flat river WHY IS WARRIOR SO GARBAGE BLIZZARD PLEASE FIX THIS DOGSHIT CLASS

Sensei class resource does it, along with rage. Or if you just want ww then Improved Whirlwind Tracker
i think ure just bad buddy
why doesnt he get timed out
for@ in
5 people
but i do
???????????????????????????
Because you are weird
what even is this
i think ur new char name should be schmidisuck
We probably don't want the answer, but we do
noob
who are you
blind 💔
where is it in sensei's?
I believe it's the secondary bar
ya it is
it's limited ish in functionality tho
it'll say you have 4 even if your ww hits nothing
cuz it's just guessing
uh mine doesn't do that
is Improved Whirlwind Tracker better?
IWT is just less clean or integrated, just shows 4 big fat bricks
who's simming higher in current gear + optimal buffs + patchwerk fight
The imp ww tracker is the same used in sensei's the individual addon is more updated I believe
I use the standalone personally
unless they made ww stacks not a private aura within the last week
yea it does
why does the IWT track whirlwind stacks more accurate than blizz's own
Maybe it happens just for ww? Cuz I'm strictly thane and doesn't happen for tclap
Yo. im back after 3 years what fury warrior build will be best for m+, which player may i check out?
I think they made almost every aura private + secret now
yea it does!
The EU warriors are just built dif
why did u @ yourself @gleaming siren
it does not
real and true
so in regards to fury dps whats the actual result of the buffs? are we looking significantly better or worse than before?
EU > NA
it iterates through nameplates
YOOO
it's not perfect
im teto fan #1
but works often enough
change ur name
ah mb
change it urself
Gio talking about changing names, sure
i wont change my name
but you saying u number 1 teto fan
is false
slander
but thats only for arms is there just no data for fury or am i just missing it
send ur playlist then
i don't need to prove myself to you
anyone knows if i can change the sensei secondary resource bar color? its always blue.. sorry to bother
that's what i thought..
Miku is better anyway
mikuteto duets...
ok real
holy
:O
sucking what
Kebab
youtube premium subscriber...
this actively increases my cortisol
cause u are uncultured
my mom wanted it
What is cortisol
no, i just dont like slop copy paste
and we bought family plan
stress thing
trust eh AI buddy
anda hit a cortisol spike after being weebmogged ?
imagine having a mom
aug player

thankfully 🙏
meow indeed
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i dont think i will check it buddy
Bots will suffer by my hand (I have no power)
why did u feel the need to say that
unless...
YOU CLICKED IT
sure buddy
xD

is the buff already live if you use latest on raidbots?
did i miss something then? i am simming 51k all of the sudden
new apl
if we play both arms and fury, should we be holding our sparks just in case arms gets buffed to be better and we get a weapon from vault? so as to not craft a weapon if arms is played?
makes sense
I gotta ask, why arms
Variety is the spice of life
@gleaming siren change your name back
Are people playing slayer or thane for raid? It looks like every boss is AOE or cleave
hmm

is there a way to do a sim without a execute phase? i want to see if i can produce my sim dps to improve
We’d have to see how long the adds live for heroic/mythic week
If adds live, thane. If adds die instantly, slayer prob
planning on playing thane for the council fight at least
Can try a dummy sim but it’ll turn off raid buffs too most likely
think those don’t include any execute tho cuz it assumes dummy doesn’t lose hp
i did not even know dummy sim a option lmao, never played a class with a execute
It stays at 100% hp yes
ty
ye did not know that
In patchwerk the hp is distributed equally with the time
Is the difficulty increased for next weeks m0 daily runs? They drop higher ilvl and s1 dungeon rotation will be up, but can‘t find any info if they will be scaled different compared to this pre-season
I’d imagine not too different cuz that’d be weird
any dungeon hotfixes could change and apply sure but idk if current 4 will feel diff
as for how hard the 4 other ones will be who knows
can’t wait to get thwapped by algethar lashers though
They might change, but the difficulty would be not knowing shit dw
Ye, cause this would cause a bigger gap between hero amd M0 and woul favor the ppl that used pre-season weekly m0
Thanks for your thoughts on this
think main question is like.. Windrunner spire mobs gonna do 20% more health and damage for example in m0 from this week to next
but I don’t think that would be the case
shrugga tho
You would need to ask someone who did beta m0s with similar gear 
I dont know why m0 difficiulty would go up
Yeah it’s just I can’t confirm these dungeons are on the m+ tuning/season mode already
Since m0s are the base
I think theyre on lfr tuning currently
another round of buffs/nerfs are coming in a couple weeks no?
i remember a friend who depleted his first tww key, +2 ara kara
why do guilds want u to apply after they mesg'ed you?
wdym ? like they want you to fill the form after messaging you ?
yea
they don't all do that, but why is it bothering you ?
some do but its not like a bad bother its just where they mesg me from has all that already unless its like one person mesg and other looks at stuff
they just want to know you answers to the form idk, they likely messaged multiple warriors
if they asked you, they probably asked every war in your world rank / higher or similar parses
Hey looking for a good openning / rotation for raiding against 2 or 3 targets
I think slayer is going to be the best but not sure
what you'll think?
that kitty doesnt look very funky
It is going to be a long season
With current numbers I think you should only play slayer on pure single target or if adds will die by the time your bladestorm ends
Actually i'm looking for coucnil fights
otherwise your rotation on any amount of targets above 1 is the same
is this normal for cats?? im debating getting a puppy for my dog or a kitty for my dog
Council fights are likely going to be thane
council will 1000% be thane
ok noted thx guys
dogs and cats can be fine for eachother
just a personality thing
just like 2 dogs might not get along same with dogs and cats
and M+ talents ?
the only thing im debating is training another dog where cats u dont have to train
Can drop some of the cc talents in class tree but more or less yeah
but they kinda KINDA high maint where cats are not as well
if you don't have a garden yes dogs is high maintenance (going outside for poop time)
I mean, cats also take time and effort, they are also very social animals that got their own set of needs
If you dont mean to get an barn-cat
yea i live in a apartment
the best part about thane is you basically play the same talents for kinda everything outside of ST
(that and our talent trees are kinda solved ngl)

im thane
My point remains
yo bros i saw on WoWhead that as slayer furey warrior we only press rampage if enrage is going to fall off or if we have or 100 rage. What is the case of only pressing over 100 rage?
Ya use it to not overcap rage, wasting AM CDR
are there BiS raidbot sim links kicking about anywhere?
Would we not just press it at 80 rage even if we don't need it to enrage or is the point to try and min max on the CDR from AM?
Having the pooled rage gives more rotational flex
Just try play around it, it will feel super natural and flows really well. You will also get a hang over time of when to press ramp early and when to slam in another GCD before, by pure muscle memory
its done that way to give yourself a better chance to have higher enrage uptime
I am guessing we do the same during recklessness as well?
if you press it immediately after u get 80 rage when you might still have another sec or 2 of enrage, so you dont "have" to spend the rampage, but assume you do and now you're at 0 rage and u have 4-5 seconds or 3-4 globals to make back up to 80 rage and outside of cds thats not always that easy, and then you risk spending time not enraged while you have to get more rage from hitting unbuffed abilities
Reck is different, as you will swim in rage, I dont even know the real prio for that
I just slam out Ramps, to boost BS and OF as much as I can, after I slam out ramps to boost SD/BB
so the 100 rage thing is like a cushion to have you have a bit extra rage as a "just in case" you need help getting to next rampage
pressing rampage earlier doesnt give you more AM cdr, it just means your next rampage is gonna be later
as long as you're not capping rage you're getting the maximum cdr
cuz few word no good
during reck yea you dont have to worry about enrage uptime cuz you will always have enrage with zero issue just dont overcap rage solely for the purpose of damage/cdr loss
BT or BB during reck incident
but outside of reck when rage isnt as plentiful thats why you do some rage pooling if you still have excess duration on enrage and dont have to immediately refresh it with ramp
that makes a lot of sense
thank you
🫡
so we crafting a weapon with spark and spores next week and upgrade it to myth the next week right?
can we get mythic crests next week? Larias guide seems to suggest we can get 100 but no idea what from, 30 odd from 11 delves and maybe 15 from heroic crown?
No we can’t, just m0 next week
I think that’s most people’s plan
Guys fresh 90 is there like gearing guide ? Or just m0 and world quest
He says mythic is week of the 24th
Renown is nice too but at this point you’ll replace it Tuesday
What do the sims say about embellishments? doing crafting sims rn and was surprised to see the wowhead page recommend spore binding
Pretty sure it’s still spore, archi is in charge of the wowhead page so I have no reason to doubt it
ty
37,247 vs 39,095 what is the percentage increase between these 2 numbers?
im not good at math lol
If you type the same question in google the AI will answer you. Im amazed you chose to ask here instead
i didnt even think to google that good idea
39/37 x 100
around 5.5% increase from 37.000
do i need to do my normal preys for rep this week or just hardmode
with thane, do you ever press whirlwind? Or fully replaced with thunder clap/blast?
never
so we can just make a macro that is either whirlwind or thane dependong on talents?
Is it that hard to move the button to the key bind when you swap
Usually your hot bars are just like… saved when you swap talent builds anyway?
I def have no macro and it swaps from clap to ww swapping from thane to slayer
might be a weird question ... but how accurate is details atm compared to logs?
logs of what
Just overall dmg
and would assume should be similar enough
yes it does, but is it baseline ?
i think it is
idk wat dat means think it just happens all the time
did we press something in option menus 10 year ago to make it happen ?
how much haste are we looking for?
100%. play on adderal
If you drag the skill from the talent tree it’ll swap between choice nodes on your bar when talents are swapped
Piercing howl/intim shout work the same way
o wowie didnt realize mat quality was so significant
literally like almost 200 more skill
w tho
mat quality has always been incredibly important, rookies
ya gold mats are like 3x the price of silver mats
im full invested and its only showing yellow for me
wonder if showing no mats defualts to low qual
this is mine
da hell u mean this is me
purple gear doesnt even matter no
not any more skill than the blue
its more
just extra stats afaik
demote madox
ill be takin that yellow
the weps are 18 the 11s are accs
madox sitting here with 71 skill and probably like 60 knowledge confused how somone who put effort into crafting can guarantee a r5
lole
only got 84 skill bs is ass to level
just need the raid work orders to come in
hit 100 real quick
i did troll a little going into axes and polearms not realizing both of those recipes are raid drops
ehe
going into mace not that hard right next to it tho
just figured would try to cover as much agility as possible but i guess everyone that can use a polearm would rather just use fists/swords or somethin idk
fuckin monks
game
im almost done with all weapons probably another week maybe 2
but i mean having 1h axes str/agi/int is prolly fine
like i think swords are actually useless
not exclusive to anyone really
warglaives
yea maybe
i mean i have the recipe
just not the skill to do without conc
but like who really needs warglaives anyway
cant dh's use swords too
or axes or something
they can use other items but they are freaks and want their flavor item
chuds
ive made more warglaives than anything else by a mile

