fury

[rancid ledge]

lowk clean

[surreal token]

is it a combo of elvui and a CD manager

[warm crag]

i think so idk i dont know half the addons this uses

[surreal token]

i'm curious how tf they were able to make it so similar

will it be more or less laggy than before in raid

that's the real question

[warm crag]

elvui shouldnt be laggy anymore

[surreal token]

how come

[warm crag]

im not an expert but i think the addon changes going into midnight basically axed everything elvui did that was laggy

was mostly raidframes? ask someone that knows @gleaming siren

[surreal token]

can we really tell atm

[warm crag]

do you lag in town

i have significantly more frames than before

[surreal token]

honestly I can't tell

I copied critcake's ui

[warm crag]

i can but might just be hardware specific

[surreal token]

but it's not my style imo

the enrage bar keeps going wonky

I was using RevvezUI prior ot WA ban

but I haven't heard any news from him on UI

[warm crag]

he might release what he has before or after rwf

he has a discord where you can ask no?

[surreal token]

some people have asked

haven't seen any replies

[rare garnet]

It’s weird because if you never pressed reck you’re still doing 85% of your DPS

[rancid ledge]

i think hes not playing wow

[surreal token]

i wouldnt blame him tbh

warrior in its current state?

it even drove away our godfather

[wind crystal]

You know what really helped getting those frame skips smoothed out for me was removing the damage and healing numbers

[celest sierra]

Are our Apex talents worth taking ? I feel like there’s more benifit to fill out the class tree over apex

Or am I wrong and bad and should delete my warrior and never be allowed to touch the class again

[dark elbow]

Press reck and you get 12-15% mainstat so yeah worth

[rare garnet]

Better than other options but a bit lacking IMO

[upbeat plume]

It's more like has been for awhile the apex talents are the least bad option of generally lack luster options

[celest sierra]

Got it . Maybe it’s just me . I dunno I have been having fun on war lately . Been maining warrior since Shadowlands . As of late I feel like I’ve lost my touch with the class haha. I’m more so just attached to the actually character that my gamer buds know me by lol

I havnt been *

[rancid ledge]

slayer feels good

mt playstyle will always be weird

[dark elbow]

I feel ya, its not like it changes a button to be more cool or whatever its just stats so yeah, also first time for me to main a different class

[oblique thistle]

Dont worry about slayer because when .5 comes out we'll be experiencing real gameplay

[smoky nacelle]

I blame the boomers that played WC3

for our TC Ava Thane play

[rare garnet]

True when people were young the game was super complex and deep rotations like vanilla and BC

[rancid ledge]

thats a part of the beauty with waarrior is that u see these noobs peak at crazy numbers and u tell them to wait cuz they are falling off while youre just maintaining dps

[dry hawk]

Alt 1/Alt 2 are dstance/berserk

[undone quartz]

i even have a mountain king like mog brother lol

[dry hawk]

It's underneath the hidden action bars 😭

[rare garnet]

I turn those menu off with eqol

Who even needs to see that

[rancid ledge]

for whenever my dad wants to play

[dry hawk]

I don't have those binds memorized haha and my raid frames are top left

I had something 10x more cursed of a UI until my RL was like hold tf up and minimize this shit

[rare garnet]

Whatever UI works for you is good there are cluttered setups people fucking love (streamers) and crazy minimal setups I could never use

[proper veldt]

so are we now never ever pressing RB on multitarget?

[rare garnet]

He’ll most people would HATE my UI

[dry hawk]

It went from the cluster fuck, to that so I'm happy

[coral isle]

I asked Claude to suggest numbers for overall buffs to colossus warrior and guardian druid nerfs and I was lolling at that last sentence, the assumption that warrior exists to do damage

[dry hawk]

Now I just gotta figure fury rotation, because I'm used to hitting shit that lit up

[coral isle]

there's no way we get a 30% aura buff

[dry hawk]

Aura buffing arms 50% probably wouldn't do anything

[rare garnet]

Is this a meme they are same picture

[dry hawk]

It's a before and after

[oblique thistle]

Im pretty sure a 50% aura buff would absolutely do something lol

If you saw a 50% aura buff on the patch notes you would be celebrating

[remote bobcat]

[coral isle]

this would still put us in the lowest third of dps and I think about 40% less than unholy death knights but at least you'd bring us over a literal tank spec

[feral ivy]

how does some of the prey chest gives 240 but some 220.. is it random or im doing something wrong

[spare steppe]

Do it again in copilot

[coral isle]

first 2 give vet gear

for hard mode

[spare steppe]

Hard mode is veteran, normal is adventurer

[feral ivy]

how do i switch to hard mode. i didnt do any on my warrior

[spare steppe]

You just pick it

[oblique thistle]

I mean in general if the patch notes comes out and arms gets massively buffed and the overpowered specs get the hammer im pretty sure most of the "arms is terrible design" conversation shrinks, and shifts to more pointed things like the apex talent

[feral ivy]

oh

[dry hawk]

There is a quest on the table after unlocking it

[oblique thistle]

Which btw archi's article about it was great

[coral isle]

you have to do enough normal ones to get to the next tier before you unlock hard mode and then you can pick them on the map

[remote bobcat]

You asked an AI to suggest balance changes for colossus warrior. Colossus is not a single spec like the amount of braindamage going on here reminds me of the SMF AI thread

[rare garnet]

Most “I want my spec to be fun” people shut the fuck up when spec boring but meta. Not all. But most.

[oblique thistle]

Doesn't even have to be meta, just not complete and utter dogshit

[floral bay]

are the ptr changes a buff or nerf, Im too dumb to figure it out

[feral ivy]

i JUST finished the quest to unlock "hardmode" lol

[coral isle]

man it's not that serious I was just asking it by how much would our dps sim need to increase and guardian to decrease for us to look like a viable spec. Relax

[rare garnet]

Not even worth looking at this point

[dry hawk]

Watching arms warrior in any content is laughable

[oblique thistle]

Fury was completely dogshit in season 2 TWW, we were not in season 3, the calls for a complete rework suddenly stopped

[remote bobcat]

[rare garnet]

Now you’re assigned. Pull logs data rotations screen shots feed it to Claude and ask for how it would balance reworks and or buff arms.

[oblique thistle]

Honestly im also curious to see what it says

[coral isle]

I mean it might work better than the copilot they're using

[oblique thistle]

Lot of people have been joking about Ai balancing but maybe its real....

[rare garnet]

No one’s joking

You just think we are

No live human is performing an analysis and making these recommendations

Maybe one of those new brain chips playing doom at most

[coral isle]

maybe their LLM is bugged and out of date so it's trying to balance classes based on Amirdrassil logs lmao

[halcyon pagoda]

When I hit reck, should I be aiming to dump rage with rampage to stack up berserker for a big hit or just continue the priority?

[warm crag]

check the rotation page on wowhead it should answer all your rotation based questions

but tldr u dont wanna overcap ye

[coarse nest]

When you hit reck are you enraged?
How much rage do you have?

[vague stump]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-punching-laptop-rage-smashing-screen-gif-17930159

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cERwzTpveK1Xf6NEbVt7y6

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8FnVkEHFh2t7BwaaZWjmzB

[warm crag]

if you wanna mald at least link a guardian sim

[coarse nest]

[warm crag]

or wait until tuning like next week or smth

[vague stump]

at least ill do dmg on one character during raid

[rare garnet]

HUGE BUFFS TODAY BOYS MASSIVE BUFFS BIGGEST BUFFS YOUVE EVER SEEN NO ONES SEEN BIGGER BUFFS

[vague stump]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[rigid sand]

I'm pretty happy our whirlwind can apply bleed now. That's a plus

[rare garnet]

In 3 months

[coarse nest]

How much you want to bet they slap a 8% aura on that thang and call it a day

[rare garnet]

If they keep it

[rigid sand]

Yeah 🙁

[rare garnet]

I bet they just nerf UH

And we see nothing maybe 3%

[dense elbow]

100% more MS dam, last point apex buffs HS by 100%

Ez clap

[coarse nest]

Keep dreaming pal

[rare garnet]

Our top end sims are pretty middle pack so we’re mostly okay compared to realistic classes

[dense elbow]

Ez clap

[mossy fox]

ye it does

silverbrit said he pushed a big update on it yday though

[rare garnet]

Best I can do is 35%

[mossy fox]

idk if bugs are gone

[vague stump]

even if they nerf unholy by 20% they will still out dps us by 17k single target

[dense elbow]

Ww base dam for arms up 45%, slam up 65%

[coarse nest]

[rare garnet]

These post titles are goat

[rigid sand]

Pretty spot on, haha

[surreal token]

thx for the recommendation @warm crag this ui is very clean

[shadow maple]

for the next week craft 2 veteran items with embelishment is worth¿

[coarse nest]

Which one?

I use atrocity, just curious

[surreal token]

that one

I just got it set up

hopefully it won't be a laggy mess next week during splits

otherwise imma have to roll the basic ass standard ui

i'm just not a fan of how dark it is

really dark edges

the outlines are jarring

is there a way to reduce that

[upper wigeon]

Whats everyone re rolling too?

[rare garnet]

Fury

[vague stump]

all depends on these patch notes hopefully today and not Monday but I have DK and enhance ready

[rare garnet]

I already spent 1M on a fishing pole. Even if I’m not in the raid I’ve got something to do.

[upper wigeon]

there are patch notes today?

[upper wigeon]

and i might go evoker

[vague stump]

hopefully

not confirmed but they normally release stuff Friday they did say they will do tuning this week unless they plan on releasing after the raid

which wouldn't surprise me with these devs

[rare garnet]

Nah balance notes Monday night

[vague stump]

Probably

[rare garnet]

But fury seems pretty solid so not expecting much if anything

[feral ivy]

is the weeklys WQ giving anything yet or just crap

[vague stump]

does anyone know why simcraft raid table for sims doesnt have a shit ton of specs on it?

I guess the APL not done? I mean doesnt even have fury or arms just prto

prot*

[crude stream]

I see things are going well

can I get uh

like a 30 min warning before the servers gets shut down for aura buffs?

[rare garnet]

TCs or whoever have to upload their stuff to them I think and in a certain format and not all classes have done that plus still cooking APLs

[winter shoal]

There's a difference between APLs and profiles; the latter have APL as well as all the gear, consumes, raid buffs, stats, etc specified, and those are what the raid table is built on

Profiles haven't been built for a lot of specs because so much is still subject to change

[smoky vale]

bigbowwl i appreciate you

[winter shoal]

That makes one person

[undone flower]

I do

[winter shoal]

Two

Racking up Ws this morning

[vague stump]

makes sense

[rare garnet]

I hate you with the passion of a thousand suns.

[edgy widget]

It should have a reap icon show up one out of every 7 swings

[river nimbus]

I can add one at the very end of the loop LOL

[edgy widget]

There you go

[rare garnet]

Needs the little guy slamming his desk and it’s just ramp and ww

With some random reaps flying out

[coarse nest]

Yes! it got made!

[upbeat plume]

I feel those initial ptr notes other then maybe rend on ww are kind of rough on us ?

[coarse nest]

WW WW WW reap WW WW WW reap

[upbeat plume]

I mean that just puts to bed any hope of slayer in m+ lol

[young swan]

yeah they suck

[upbeat plume]

Thats what I was feeling but was waiting for wiser voices (archi) to say yea or nah lol

[spare steppe]

I’d rather it be bad than good

If thats the intended gameplay

[keen kindle]

Question

Oh wait we dont have ptr servers do we?

[young swan]

we do

[keen kindle]

So

Does reap trigger only from the ww cast itself or also its cleave buff

[winter shoal]

Just cast

[keen kindle]

....

Wow

[winter shoal]

Yes

[keen kindle]

Thats almost impressive in how bad that sounds

Holy fuck that makes reap sound better for arms

[winter shoal]

Arms not allowed to exe in aoe anymore

[keen kindle]

Yet has to for bs cdr

Like

[river nimbus]

some variety

[keen kindle]

This just looks like making slayer worse for particularly no reason. Gj blizz you made us easier to tune on aoe...for the hero tree that isnt known for that lmafo

Both colossus and MT usually have better aoe no? Am I crazy here?

[spare steppe]

Hmm feels like there’s too many reaps

[spare steppe]

Needs to be slower

[keen kindle]

Warr in general u mean

[valid pulsar]

nah i like current slayer

[smoky nacelle]

cept prot maybe

[valid pulsar]

its not as fun as tww s3 but its fine

[spare steppe]

I bet RB is going to be topic of Archi’s article

[valid pulsar]

more sd proccs would be nice

but other than that its fine

[keen kindle]

Fine dps warr

[river nimbus]

gif frames prob just need to be longer. i'll play with it more after some work.

[keen kindle]

No it was master of warfare

[small tinsel]

anyone able to advise on this issue im having

I reecently when playing around with the cooldown tracker assigned some aura that looked identical to the gold glow of execute on my Reckless and avatar (Whenever it was available and ready to use

Im driving myself mad now after switching through a few addons being unsure how i did it is anyone aware of where this setting is ?

[rare helm]

next week m0 will have daily save or weekly?

[spare steppe]

No that was arms

[keen kindle]

Are they doing them per spec?

Or just per class

[tepid lily]

Can we craft 2h weapon this week or is it next week

[rare helm]

next week

this one u conly can have 3 sparks, and u need 4

[tepid lily]

ok, but is it more viable crafted wrist / cape for next week?

If i'm getting a weapon next week

[winter shoal]

Eqol can do this, cooldown companion can as well I think, arcui probably can, better cdm might be able to

Assuming you just mean the "glow when available" functionality

[tepid lily]

better cooldown manager does it

addon

I just hate blizzard's ui

[vague stump]

i will probs be crafting 259 mainhand weap w embelishment and recraft when I have myth crests as I have blacksmithing so not much of an issue with recrafting

also because I only have adv weaps right now as these prey ones with vers sim worse than the harrandar adv 2h

[small tinsel]

where about can i do that ?

[spare steppe]

Per spec

[tepid lily]

Global : Custom glows

[small tinsel]

yeah this is it ive tried so many different addons to get it right ic ant remember which it was im in a endless motion of googling

[dry hawk]

I'm gonna craft my 2H and then be yelled at to tank , literally holding my craft until we see if brew/bear get fucking clapped with a nerf

[strong kayak]

hello 🙂 are there any numbers to tell how much the fury changes will affect aoe and single target? at first glance it looks like a pretty big nerf to me

[radiant plank]

no

but to help you calculate yourself do a ST sim and just remove all reap dmg

[strong kayak]

haha that sounds like a horror movie 😅 not sure if i want to jump scare myself

[rare garnet]

So like 10%

[spare steppe]

We need the tuning first

[coarse nest]

I’m in

[spare steppe]

Numbers without tuning is kinda pointless

[smoky vale]

it finally came out or

[coarse nest]

I got an invite to the play test

[smoky vale]

oh

gg

invited 18 months later

[coarse nest]

Ye I’m at work rn though

Bro I literally discovered this game 20 minutes ago

And found an invite lmao

Staying under my rock yes

[smoky vale]

you havent seen the spongie madox xeos yap about it

??

[coarse nest]

Yeah just never knew what game they were yapping about

Now I do

[winter shoal]

Not everyone is terminally online

[coarse nest]

I’m one of those it’s ok bowl lol

[smoky vale]

ive been toning it back

im improving

[coarse nest]

Well terminally ill chatter anyway

+1 yappersupreme extra cheese

[glossy mirage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1481699450719174686/977c65.gif

we still doing this?

or did the hate settle?

[rare garnet]

Nah we’re hype train WW fans now

[coarse nest]

Don’t worry it’s around lunch time soon

[smoky nacelle]

spin to win baby

[coarse nest]

We’ll get to read patch notes any minute now surely

[glossy mirage]

warwick? windwalker world war?

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1482059356412313630/WW_Reap.gif

[coarse nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1482059356412313630/WW_Reap.gif?ex=69b592d5&is=69b44155&hm=a317f1bcf99e0c90793e66b17332e8bb7c2d036776f7dbce98d723b5916b1f93&

[winter shoal]

It reaps twice as often as it should smh

[glossy mirage]

OH whirlwind

[candid sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1482059356412313630/WW_Reap.gif

[glossy mirage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413197405561819256/reaptech.gif

these were the days

[winter shoal]

Should be one reap per ~10gcd with rampage in there

[rare garnet]

BLASPHEMY

[spare steppe]

I never thought I’d miss RB

[sullen dove]

mfs making up gifs for something thats not even gonna stick in 8 weeks gg

[rare garnet]

What else to do till raid

[humble plover]

Doom

That's what I'm doing

[rare garnet]

Gonna save that comment for when they double down

[tranquil sentinel]

i wonder if theres a tallent tree rework or something happening soon, that warents them moving stuff to ww

or if im coping 2 hard

[sullen dove]

also the 1 reap was too often need about 4 more ww casts between each one

[glossy mirage]

pepenoted

[lofty lotus]

way to many procs

[river nimbus]

dont worry. im cooking up another, slower proc version. lol

[lofty lotus]

i still cant belive its 15% on WW of all abilities

[rare garnet]

Don’t be one gcd off on the proc or these judges gonna get ya

[lofty lotus]

15% on ramp i get

[smoky vale]

[candid sorrel]

Your Whirlwinds now make slightly bigger Whirlwinds. Now we just need whirlwind to reduce bladestorm cd and we're golden 💀

[coarse nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1482059356412313630/WW_Reap.gif?ex=69b592d5&is=69b44155&hm=a317f1bcf99e0c90793e66b17332e8bb7c2d036776f7dbce98d723b5916b1f93&

I couldn’t hear you over my WW spam

[edgy widget]

that's way too many reaps!

[coarse nest]

True 🤣

[glossy mirage]

is thre any viable way to play prot dps, gladiator style?

[smoky vale]

why is funkys cursed slayer rotation coming to fruitiong

[glossy mirage]

it surelly will do more dmg

[smoky vale]

no

you just play prot and do damage

[rare garnet]

Funky secret dev

[olive wraith]

I genuinely think they’re about to tune rb higher and maybe buff RR

[dense elbow]

TwwS3 we got at home

[dry hawk]

Fury rotation is odd, you'd think casting RB or CB would be higher than fucking clapping

[smoky vale]

for how long have you been manifesting this cursed rotation

5? months

[dense elbow]

I am suprised they managed to make a cook so bad, it took me by suprise. But! I remain hopeful, surely they just moving around the dam profile from sustained AoE to bladestorm value for Slayer!

Also TWWs3(2) coming for Slayer, instead of unhinged, to make up for the ST loss

[dry hawk]

"press clap to doubt"

[dense elbow]

[tranquil sentinel]

Buffs tclap, nerfs thunderblast

buffs it enough to warrent runing it in slayer would be so evil

[dense elbow]

I cant wait for the 17th, I kinda expect some sort of "Fury is too strong at X" and arms get hit

[tranquil sentinel]

arms dying for our sins

[sullen dove]

we all race changing to pandas

for +50 primary stat

[smoky vale]

[proud vessel]

quick question is there a reason my game drops to around 60 dps feels a bit stuttering, when in certain dungeons? I have a pretty good pc 32gb ram, 5600x and a 7900xt. But in for instance murder row and magisters terrace it feels kinda bad...

[dry hawk]

I'd race change to a vulpera for the damage mitigation for prot, before going a panda

[sullen dove]

pandas are based

xeos loves em

[smoky vale]

ish

dms urgent

[sullen dove]

why do you speak

🫃

[digital ore]

Try swapping tp Dx11 in graphics settings, check addons cpu usage, check your overall cpu usage, fuck around with additional graphics options, some were known to cause issues by default. (Blizzard quality implementation)

[dry hawk]

Do you use Elvui?

[digital ore]

They are abusing that ChatGPT subscription hard since TWW.

[normal yoke]

It's not just you. Midnight has... problems.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1rpu6aw/german_hardware_magazine_shows_massive_cpu_issues/?share_id=XJhAwBZ7uSfyEjXhETNxO
https://www.reddit.com/r/WowUI/comments/1qk96mg/otherfixworkaroundhidden_tracked_quests_caused_60/

[young swan]

need an x3d or ur doomed to bad performance

[rare garnet]

It’s not like there is any actual complexity to our current build but yeah

[young swan]

thane is quite complicated but yeah

[normal yoke]

For reference, I'm on a 9800X3D with a 5090 still experience hitches and drops in Midnight. It's a WoW problem, unfortunately.

[proud vessel]

damn, good to know. thanks

[dry hawk]

I have not the newest tech, but sit at a comfortable 90fps in everywhere but magisters terrace at about 70-75

[valid pulsar]

i run a 13600k and RTX 3070 no issues at all and i havent even updated my drivers for months

[low folio]

so the 12.0.5 changes are like awefully bad right

[dense elbow]

Could be aweful, could be great - depending on what their goal actually is

[olive wraith]

Face value yes

[young swan]

yes

[dry hawk]

Is it true M+ is 2 weeks away

[calm swallow]

I thought M+ was next week?

[young swan]

like a week and a half

[smoky vale]

next week is raid

[rare garnet]

Yeah I’m a slayer simp

[calm swallow]

WHY ARE THEY NOT LAUNCHING TOGETHER?

[dry hawk]

Why on God's green earth would they postpone M+?

[young swan]

m+ doesnt launch until mythic

[quiet geyser]

BS buff is good. Ww giving rend is arguably good (although kinda makes slayer too similar to MT).

But the reap change completely negatives any possible good change they've done or could do

[mossy pelican]

Subscription time

[calm swallow]

Ew

[young swan]

it launches with mythic

[candid sorrel]

Execute not reaping feels bad

[dry hawk]

Probably to see how the tuning of bosses are actually

[candid sorrel]

Much better

[dry hawk]

They walk into mythic with mythic gear and we don't see how bad the tuning can get

[valid pulsar]

I miss my causese weak aura pack telling me what to do on any boss fight in the game

now i have to think myself

[honest trail]

Aren't these worth it rather than mythic raid boots? Sparks craft tho

[rare garnet]

No think just WW

[quiet geyser]

Taking up an embellishment

[honest trail]

That's how it works?

Then not good

[quiet geyser]

Read the 4th line

[honest trail]

Right

Thanks

[dry hawk]

I feel like weap/wrists or just go insta wrists/cloak/belt

[honest trail]

am always doing weapons

[valid pulsar]

I will probably craft 259 weapon first, upgrade my second weapon for free up to this ilvl if possible and later go cloak wrist

[woven heath]

RIP season 3 tier set

[marble pilot]

Waiting for random buffs and nerfs to like half of classes. But Bear and Unholy dont get touched.

[sand hatch]

Wep is almost always the best value for most players. Unless you anticipate an early pair of myth track weapons

[valid pulsar]

even if you get one myth track weapon early you still use the crafted one right

no one plays arms anyways

dead spec

[sand hatch]

Dead doesn't describe arms. At least the dead get a proper burial instead of punched more

[rare garnet]

Which unlikely with them at the 5th boss and RNG vault for most people.

[valid pulsar]

I just saw it in D tier so i assumed its dead

i tried it for 5 minutes on dummies disliked it and speced fury again

[lofty delta]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24246298/#item5

Fixed an issue where supertracking certain quests would cause performance issues.

Second link should be fixed now

[sand hatch]

Played prot for 15y, always had arms for OS even when it wasn't great. Preferred arms over fury, but even i can't justify it in its current state. I'd rather uninstall xD

[valid pulsar]

the only season i played arms a lot was shadowlands season 1

venthyr

[sand hatch]

I stopped tanking after S1 DF, been off and on between each dps spec

[river nimbus]

thank you. i agree.

[low folio]

im still convinced reap the storm is bugging out and proccing off normal executes under specific conditions

without sudden death

[formal ravine]

convniced on something you can easily test?

Go hit dummies and check if that happens

hell remove sudden death and test it

even easier

[low folio]

it might be required to have sudden death

like if youve used suddne death on a target already, it feels like you have a ranomd chance to proc it without sudden death

[young swan]

it does proc off non-sd executes

[low folio]

no i mean without it active as a buff

is it supposed to?

[young swan]

no

[low folio]

i figured, i felt it doing that on prepatch but couldnt be sure

[young swan]

its on the same 30% chance as BT

[low folio]

ya i thought so

[young swan]

we dont report those bugs

slayer needs everything it can get

[low folio]

it works on arms too

[coarse nest]

Damnit archi baited me good
#updates-midnight message

I about spilt my coffee thinking this was patch notes update I moved to click that channel so fast

[dense elbow]

The SD reap proccing off non-SD executes when SD procs during an exe cast, has already been reported
It wont be fixed tho

[modest condor]

has nothing to do with sd, you can just get reap procs off of normal execute casts

[coarse nest]

OH

TIL

[dense elbow]

Just basic ones too? Never noticed

[modest condor]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gcYBK26wHTRhaPZ1?fight=last&type=damage-done&options=256&source=2

[coarse nest]

[modest condor]

i cancelaurad every sd

[river lark]

yo is it a real fear now after 12.0.5 ptr

[edgy widget]

bruh that was a year ago

[coarse nest]

Lmao

[edgy widget]

tbh though, cleave will still remain dominant, at least for the remainder of Season 1

[coarse nest]

Bro searching

[dense elbow]

Necroposting on Skyhold, love to see it

[edgy widget]

unless they change the Tier set and Colossal Might to trigger off of Whirlwind too, Cleave still wins... but there's definitely potential for WW spam at some point

[river lark]

didn't touch the game properly since nerubar tier found it funny as fuck that reap would proc off WW now

[dense elbow]

Still a bit untill that is the case

[river lark]

yeah yeah of course

[dense elbow]

Surely they going to tune things so you only press WW to refesh meatcleaver, where reap proc is just some "sparkle" dps

Moving all that 'lost' AoE value straight into BS

Surely

[coarse nest]

Un castable while the buff is active 100% reap proc

[river lark]

resubbing if WW spam fury is real

[edgy widget]

its pretty close right now, WW is already beating RB in AoE

so the rota is basically Rampage > BT > Exe > WW

[coarse nest]

Amazing

[river lark]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/brian-carn-prophet-quicken-churchy-gif-19070466

prophet

[fleet pulsar]

so slayer is better than MT in aoe ?

[lofty lotus]

icy veins says no

[shut kayak]

whats the stat prio for mt furry in m+?

[lofty lotus]

mastery > haste are king

[shut kayak]

and whats the first item i craft?

weapon?

[lofty lotus]

with spark?

[shut kayak]

y

[lofty lotus]

keep it for s1

well even if u wanted

u cant

cus you dont have enough sparks

[shut kayak]

what do you mean keep it for s1?

[lofty lotus]

wait for s1 to start then use sparks

[shut kayak]

kk and what do i craft?

[lofty lotus]

probably a weapon

but id guess icy veins/wowhead will know whats bis

[frank dawn]

I feel like I can say with basically 100% certainty that anyone asking what to craft should craft a weapon - as fury

[shut kayak]

kk ty guys

and mt is better than sl right?

[lofty lotus]

difference is really small atm

pick whichever is more fun for you

slayer is more fun for me atm and im still top dps in 90% of m0's

[shut kayak]

whats the rotation on sl?

[lofty lotus]

its a priority

i keep it simple
charge > rek > odyin > ramp or BS depending on rage

on aoe u slow a WW early on

dunno if its most optimal but its what i do

why are u spamming?

[shut kayak]

kk ty bro

have a good one

[median cypress]

How do I write Void Elf into the sim instead of 'race=orc' for example?

[lofty lotus]

try void_elf

[median cypress]

big up

[sudden tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1130595907172302858/30CFF9B4-C69D-4BF0-B51B-1122F4743CEF.gif

[river lark]

cause WW hype

[sudden tusk]

Think panda is one of the highest rn

[median cypress]

Panda does sim the highest for me indd

[dense elbow]

Bouncy opop

[gusty sleet]

@edgy widget You should pass @pulsar hedge the orange role bro, time to pack up @acoustic moon should get orange role aswell

[river lark]

on my mothers grave i sent ww prophecy to 1 person i got nothing to do with this blame it on tomymagus-silvermoon

mb mb tarren mill not silvermoon

[edgy widget]

ok time to stop acting weird kids

[echo rapids]

Fury discord is certainly a place of all time

[gusty sleet]

i hope jeffrey gets you archi

[tired bane]

Hi all; is there any guide on how to play slayer multi ? i can only find thane multi atm

[edgy widget]

oh I'm sorry, did you want me to start banning?

quit acting fucking weird, take it somewhere else, or you'll be sent somewhere else

[edgy widget]

any of the primary guides linked in the #dps-faq should cover it

[rare garnet]

Damnit I go away for one minute and miss the good stuff

[tired bane]

Thank you, checking

Sorry to reiterate.
On maxroll and wowhead, there are no talent page specific for slayer multi target

[untold heart]

Are the sims accurate enough to decide between embellishments for my 2h craft?

[fair cave]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/talent-builds-pve-dps

scroll down to m+ and change to slayer

[echo rapids]

You gotta use the toggles to select the right spec and situation

[tired bane]

Oh thanks i feel dumb

[rare garnet]

Or just at the top

[tired bane]

tyvm !!

[fair cave]

same thing on the rotation page. Select multi target -> slayer

[rancid socket]

Why is panda simming highest? Is it due to the food buffs being that good right now?

[echo rapids]

Yes

[placid palm]

Mmm are we using mountain thane in m+ most likely?

[sullen dove]

yes

[rancid socket]

Do you know which food they're simming with?

[sullen dove]

Primary stat

50 turns into 100

[rancid socket]

Got it thanks

[sullen dove]

and 100 primary when we have like idk 1800-2000 or something right now is kind of epic

[placid palm]

I hate that we're not taking enraged regen...

[olive wraith]

How come

[dense elbow]

You dont take enraged regen?

[dim spindle]

Is the voidstorm trinket still not functioning correctly with fury/melee?

[sullen dove]

It functions in game just not in sims

but I’m just perma keeping that shit on

[dim spindle]

Oh yeah? Thought I saw some mention about it not working in game but blizz was aware of it. Maybe I'm just hallucinating memories again

[sullen dove]

Pmuch exactly that convo yea but applying to how it’s like tracked in sims or something

[dim spindle]

Stupid brain

[sullen dove]

I’m def getting my buff at least in game

[dim spindle]

Alrighty, I'll put it on and watch my buffs. If only a damage meter that could give you that info was ever invented, but alas...

[sullen dove]

Yea it’s like 80% uptime max protocol buffs

v noticeable and active

my lock simmed it at like 82-85

[dim spindle]

ty Soredish, you're the best

[sullen dove]

anytime citizen

[dim spindle]

I'm voting for you next time orange elections come up

[sullen dove]

oh god

I’ll take a yellow but please god do not make me orange ever

[dim spindle]

Willing to take a moment to help out ordinary citizens, that's my kind of orange

Well sometimes the best choice for Orange is one who doesn't want it. Y'know?

[sullen dove]

[rare garnet]

Booster pink are the real authorities in this discord

[deft palm]

never thought i would be pressing WT overr RB

lol

[dapper goblet]

yellow spot is open from what i've seen

[coarse nest]

Where linc

[sullen dove]

idk still a couple individuals cloggin it up

[dapper goblet]

@ madox

[sullen dove]

@ baze

[dapper goblet]

[sullen dove]

oh fuck

i missed the baze anniversary

god damn it

ok its been 2 years and 4 days now can we get the story behind this

yellow name has to be where he would want to get to no

[dense elbow]

Clearly he is working his way to green

[sudden tusk]

Shokugeki no sugmu

[sullen dove]

baze is the typa freak to be watchin food wars lowkey

[undone flower]

he is the typa freak to have food wars pp and never watched it

[sullen dove]

goat

[vague stump]

guys is thane sim kinda bugged? I cant work out why its only 3k behind slayer when actually playing it feels alot less?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dq81SgWTjUTrbeWPJFSQtw

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xehChG6SeLGrJzCBopuVM5

[sullen dove]

idk you playin it worse?

does dmg breakdown look similar to what it is for thane

[vague stump]

must be single

[sullen dove]

not thunder clapping as often in st or rarely

[vague stump]

I must be prio wrong for single idk

thought it was much more than that tho

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gwoUdmeX3379rLfLkJStDm
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3MaqPKrBMVeA1L8jYJgTtz

why is anyone playing slayer when there is this much diff?

[sullen dove]

cuz slayer is better on single target and worse on aoe

[vague stump]

I am confused am I missing something in talents or what lol

[sullen dove]

like both of these clearly showed

[slim coral]

food wars owns once you get past the nudity

[vague stump]

but 3k over 5 mins is piss all when you have another 12k in pulls?

[sullen dove]

yea i mean ur not playin slayer in m+ kinda period

you just do it in raid

[dense elbow]

Hm?
Nothing wrong playing Slayer in M+

[stiff maple]

It just does less damage

[sullen dove]

still same relative %

[spare steppe]

Nothing is wrong yet

[sullen dove]

slayer is like 6% better than that mt sim on ST and MT is like 7% better than slayer in the aoe sim

[dense elbow]

The 12.0.5 will open up a new world of Fury Slayer explosive BS burst

[sullen dove]

wait 6...

[dense elbow]

Have faith

[fading sky]

Dmg advantage of mt increases on more mobs id venture

[sullen dove]

yea that is also 5 target to 5 target

they p similar there but slayer dmg stops there aside from reap/bs/of/rend/ww some of which is more kekw than others

but thunderblast/clap doing dmg to more than 5 is giga

[undone flower]

Thane start the tclap every other gcd in avatar at 7 targets

[coarse nest]

Y’all ready to get balanced up to 90k

[rare garnet]

I don’t care what happens to me as long as they nerf arms and get that shit under control

[coarse nest]

Ope fury chat

[rare garnet]

8% AOE to gain 5% ST is a trade I’m comfortable with and I end up having issues more often with the prio mobs and bosses than the 15 skitters.

[young swan]

@slim coral

[slim coral]

I'm not in liquid yet

[sullen dove]

gg

never hearing it

[slim coral]

[rare garnet]

Poor sick charmander

[slim coral]

rules have changed once I'm in a top 5 guild

[open shoal]

have anyone simd races for warrior this tier?

[coarse nest]

Panda top

[slim coral]

panda is bis

[slim coral]

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nxqaLCtkubhbzjEgi2JBX6

[open shoal]

thx bro ❤️ @slim coral

[young swan]

read this like sassy

[open shoal]

is the sim same start of tier as full bis?

what u talking to me? 😄

[young swan]

sassy the sasquatch

ur profile picture

[young swan]

the sim uses full bis

[open shoal]

yeah thats a quote´from sassy 😄

or its more Wadiyatalkinabeet

[rare garnet]

What an L

[sullen dove]

me when i make up things

[slim coral]

it's a real story

[sullen dove]

i dont doubt that lol

[misty edge]

Baze was supposed to replace me and save me from brown prison like 3 years ago

[sullen dove]

unfortunate

[misty edge]

way behind schedule

[sullen dove]

he is beyond your mid ahh guild

top 40 or something

gg

[misty edge]

leapfrogged, dangit

[sullen dove]

gratz on the poptart corndog trial

[slim coral]

Guild should of grabbed me when they could of smh

[dense elbow]

Didnt include the DPS increase from the less downtime from the Camp heartstone

[dapper goblet]

i got something you can grab

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tongue-out-flight-flight-reacts-cat-tongue-gif-5336416477717479720

[earnest canyon]

As it should be. Furry little bastards

[round prawn]

Are people happy with furys rotation it seems clumsy compared to other specs now?

[rare garnet]

I like slayer.

[frank dawn]

I think Slayer generally feels pretty damn good

but the PTR version has taken a giant shit all over that atm

[round prawn]

whats gone wrong on ptr?

[frank dawn]

the reap the storm changes make the aoe rotation snooze af

[rare garnet]

Months out not worrying yet

[frank dawn]

feedback has been pretty immediately and unanimous it's a dog shit change tho, so yeah

[rare garnet]

No point dooming

[frank dawn]

What ezkath said

[stoic loom]

yeah its months away

just like how fury and arms being ass on beta was months away from release and yet here we are

[frank dawn]

I mean yes, buuuuut, still need to give feedback

[young swan]

they will do what they want regardless

that much has been proven to us

[frank dawn]

just let me cope Xan

[rare garnet]

Feedback does seem pretty useless. You’re there to test that things work as designed not to impact the design.

[dapper goblet]

shadowlands remembers

[coarse nest]

Condemn me up

[copper escarp]

Hey, where can i find a profil bis gear T34 for fury? For raidbot's sims

[coarse nest]

You gotta know somebody who will share a sim with you and you can yoink the gear from it or find the mega sheet with all the specs and yoink it from there

Probably Ulria’s Den has the latest ones but it’s pay walled

Well* latest ones that are publicly shared anyway

[copper escarp]

I found one with almost all spec, but fury warrior is missing ^^'
https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/tree/midnight/profiles/MID1

[coarse nest]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTxbz0VzPWK0j2_1mNqcOGX0Lgrnha3kM6wvCgossscI08I_Hk-v1_D2crjD7h6Wo-FCrnJUn4W2CWU/pubhtml?gid=1484407191&single=true

View that with a grain of salt idk how up to date it is

Just grabbed it from chat here with the search bar

[copper escarp]

Thx ^^

[coarse nest]

From a while ago

[copper escarp]

It is beta datas ^^'

[coarse nest]

@frigid zealot Any latest ST sim that you would share?

[coarse nest]

Yeah but it’s got the gear you were looking for

[untold heart]

for our 2h craft I dont see how to sim embellishments on dropitzemer

are we able to sim those yet?

[sullen dove]

Idk if u ever could on droptimizer

thought that’s like a top gear only kinda thing

[untold heart]

Last season on my dk I was able to use dropitimizer to figure our embellishments.

Top gear you have to have the item or knows its string to put in

[rare garnet]

There is a search box now to add items for like a long time on top gear

[haughty carbon]

Do we care in thane about sudden death execute during Reck / Avatar ?

[untold heart]

Usually during reck that is a decent flow of TB/ ramp and if I need a filler its BB

[haughty carbon]

ok thx !

[blissful hound]

Doesnt matter

If there was anything new / better this link wouldnt be in the sheet

[sudden tusk]

not up to date. was before embelishment/ trinket tuning

[coarse nest]

Where’s the up to date link?

[sudden tusk]

there is none

esp with all the tuning on the way putting all that work in just to have it guarenteed smashed on the 17th dosent make senese

we are in 🔮 mode

[coarse nest]

Fair enough just checking

Makes sense yeah

[sudden tusk]

what was the original question tho i just repliesd when i saw the doc postted

[coarse nest]

Oh someone was asking for the gear that the highest ST sim uses

[sudden tusk]

ah if it was for crafted p sure its wep/bracer now

but other then that or well even that its 🔮

[coarse nest]

Ye that last minute balance throws a wrench for sure lol

[halcyon pagoda]

Dread fury has a SS in compwow with different numbers than shown

[slim coral]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ba2dwIwiRJLWM-yY1yGv18aYdBHS8voBJ9tETIoiHuM/edit?gid=1256295535#gid=1256295535

this is the up to date one

[coarse nest]

Nice!

[rough sandal]

Hello guys, for The Voidspire, do we have some information about wich build for fury ? Thane or slayer ?

[drifting token]

Won't know til next weeks tuning

[viscid oxide]

hey guys, ive been looking over the priorty list and im a bit confused

is rampage really that low on the list?

and what about whirlwind?

[lofty delta]

its number 1/2 ?

depending on if you're in reck or not

you don't want to spam it because it resets enrage

so you just use it before you would overcap rage

which is like every other/third gcd

[deft palm]

monk number one for damage or

[rare garnet]

ouch ret is fucked

[wind token]

its one of the top wdym

[sudden tusk]

clanker spec hiding sims wcyd

[gilded prism]

Nerf ret

[onyx linden]

🤡

nerf arms

[fast mural]

should have been a 420

[untold heart]

Are 2h embellishments up for a cahnge now or is the wowhead page still accurate with hunt and spore?

Ive tried seeing if I could sim myself but im not seeeing a place to put embellishments in

[sudden tusk]

Prob hunt and spore tho spore is bein weird rn

[untold heart]

Should I wait until after the 17th to craft my 246?

[sudden tusk]

Id just wait and see what happens

cant make a mistake if you dont make a choice

once we have finalized tuning from the 17th will be an easy choice

but 99% is gonna be a weapon with hunt embelish

[untold heart]

Ok, thank you

[onyx linden]

is this the worst tuning they did in a while? more than 100% dif between best and worst dps in kinda wild

[viscid oxide]

@wind token

ahh i see the over 100 one now

but still, why only then

if it does more damage why not spend at 80

i am new to fury so it may be a verys tupid question

very stupid*

[wind token]

there are better buttons than it at 80

[dry hawk]

I'm more confused about the rampage before pressing rend or RB

[summer quail]

to ensure you stay enraged

[wind token]

cause it does more damage/apex

[viscid oxide]

Oh okay, so by spending it above 100, i dont need to watch the enrage timer anymore?

[dry hawk]

Your rot could literally be ramp>bt>ramp for multiple globals

[wind token]

yeah and thats fine

[lofty delta]

i explain it and it does not get read; my man's a true warrior

[summer quail]

i mean you still need to watch the enrage timer, just spending on higher amounts means you have more rage after that rampage.

[dry hawk]

Sad part is you can ramp twice if the stars align over 100 rage

[lofty delta]

tuning hasn't happened yet; wait until mythic releases

[onyx linden]

all they did was tuning so far

and they did a pretty bad job

[lofty delta]

no?

there will be a big tuning adjustment during heroic week

[onyx linden]

i didnt say there wont be

[lofty delta]

you can't call 2 weeks of pre-expansion, pre-season: "tuning". Especially with all the reworks that have been done between Xpacs

[onyx linden]

you cant be serious

[lofty delta]

100% serious

nothing matters right now

[onyx linden]

so 1 class doing 2 times the damage a few other spec does, and still nerfing the bottom one, is totally okay

just because reasons

[lofty delta]

didn't say it was ok

just said it doesn't matter because there's no content

[onyx linden]

so their tuning is ass

[wind token]

they havent done final tuning

[lofty delta]

you seem to just want to be mad so have at it.

[onyx linden]

i'm not even mad

[wind token]

yes their current tuning is beans and hopfully that is fixed with tuning next week

[onyx linden]

you just defend blizzard for 0 reason

[onyx linden]

^this

[lofty delta]

not defending; just being reasonable xD

[onyx linden]

lets hope they correct things

nah dude, this is not reasonable at all

[lofty delta]

ok

[rare garnet]

tuning is pretty good with only a couple outliers what are you on about

[wind token]

we basically said the same thing but ok

[onyx linden]

did u even check the spreadsheet?

a couple? lmao

[rare garnet]

[lofty delta]

hippo

[novel oasis]

What I’ve seen so far is my fury as top overall dps with other classes beating me in some boss pulls but the damage is pretty consistent

In these m0s

[wind token]

m0s are dog easy

[echo rapids]

There are a decent number of outliers in both directions and blizzard seems to be leaving it late

[novel oasis]

Yea 100 but that’s what they are basing tuning off of

[wind token]

trve

[lofty delta]

i'd rather have tuning hit heroic week and it be cooked, than now and undercooked

[wind token]

heroic week is next week

[echo rapids]

I don’t remember having one spec doing double another spec in single target a week out from myth raid release in TWW

[lofty delta]

yeah, i'm talking mid/end of hc week

[novel oasis]

Fury will be fine arms will get mega buffed

[lofty delta]

Fury was gigablasting hc week of Palace

[novel oasis]

Sin will get mega buffed sub will get nerfed

[wind token]

eh i think fury slayer will still be the best in st but we shall see

[lofty delta]

they got giga nerfed like 5 times until they got buffed again, because it was kneejerk reactions

[novel oasis]

Look at the changes for season 2

[echo rapids]

Not single target dps, and not double other specs unless I’m misremembering

[rare garnet]

good thing there is so much single target

[onyx linden]

nah, we did good aoe burst, and got 3 nerfs in a row because of it

ST wasnt top tier at all

[echo rapids]

ST is all blizz seems to give a shit about (unless it’s to nerf warrior aoe)

[novel oasis]

It’s because fury st is fury aoe

[lofty delta]

kinda missing the point that the crazy AoE burst was what got us nerfed because kneejerk reactions to logs

[echo rapids]

Stop it I’m getting nostalgic for when we had burst

[onyx linden]

blizzard was as clueless as they are now with the balancing so far

i loved when odyn did actual damage

[echo rapids]

Demon warlock had busted ST at the end of beta and all pre patch, not sure why it got left

It’ll get fixed but still

[frozen marten]

It was a fun first month of WW

[wind token]

nuking rash adds was funny

[onyx linden]

we could clear all ads solo

was so fun

had 1 cd for each wave

good times

i wonder what they will do to arms, it needs a HUGE aura buff to be at the level of fury

[orchid iron]

we're crafting a 2h next week then filling blanks with veteran level stuff?

the spark-less pieces everyone else is doing

[onyx linden]

i dont know about crafting next week, should craft on mythic+ week, no?

[orchid iron]

oh good call, let me rephrase- if we're bad at this game are we doing it on the 4th spark? 😅

[onyx linden]

i think you still should wait, and dont waste heroic crests on it

it will be pretty easy to get the mythic crests to craft

[sullen tendon]

whats the design philosphy behind rampaging berserker. It feels like you can never fully utilize the stacks before they fall off. I can get to 7 stacks and get 1 bloodbath off before it drops down to 3

[sullen dove]

Yea never use heroic crests to craft should probably be fine to craft 259 spark only weapon then recraft to myth the week after if you want

[restive fiber]

Will there be any patch notes coming out?

[sullen dove]

Hopefully

[orchid iron]

this is what i had in mind, thanks

[edgy widget]

During my opening burst as thane, when I have a thunder clap charge (at 1) + Rampage available + Burst of Power BT proc. What should I be pressing? This is assuming I'm in a m+, pulled a mob, and already have some whirlwind stacks.

[sullen tendon]

hopefully they make it so ramapging ruin casts in addition to rampage in the patch notes

rr had potential but its just downgraded rampage

[calm dock]

so like is fury just kinda bad rn? certainly dosent feel the strongest esp compared to stuff like ret but maybe thats just me

[orchid iron]

yea thats you dog sorry 😅

[young swan]

its like roughly the bottom 1/3rd of all specs, ret is pretty similar to fury tho

[dusky moon]

Most warriors like being on bottom though so it's fine

[digital mauve]

SO are the next patch changes gonna nerf fury?

[onyx linden]

probably

[warped bone]

Slayer yes.

[onyx linden]

but arms will get nerfed most likely

[warped bone]

But also early PTR so who knows what will happen

[calm dock]

hopefully fury gets some help when patch drops the 17th

[digital mauve]

NOOOO

why

most fun spec in this damn whole class

[onyx linden]

too strong, we can still beat tanks in ST

[woven valley]

the fact they made reap ONLY on aoe is cringe af

[digital mauve]

it can still be revert right?

[woven valley]

i mean it CAN but i dunno if they will

id rather them lean into reap and give more abilities the ability to proc it

instead of whatever this is

[frank dawn]

I could understand maybe nerfing reap damage and/or making it only proc on execute/sudden death.

And like they could do other stuff obviously, but I don’t feel like decoupling it from Sudden Death is a win without some pretty drastic changes and I just don’t see other drastic changes happening

[dense elbow]

Having SD be 'the' button on AoE and ST as Slayer did feel great, that is for sure

No "is X, Y or Z", just send and some dopamine.

Of course, they needed to fix the animation problem

[calm dock]

i just dont get certain classes get to be super OP for so long yet warriors get dunked on like havent unholy been ungodly powerful for god knows how many seasons at this point

[frank dawn]

It is frustrating that other classes do often get left in over tuned states while Warrior always seems to get instant nerfed

[rancid crag]

How is slayer getting nerfed

Im sorry i havent seen the new patch notes or whatever it is

[frank dawn]

Well slayer is not currently OP to get nerfed lmao. I felt like it was more of a general statement

[rancid crag]

Well I mean slayer is fine right now imo and I was kinda worried seeing you guys talking about nerfs

I was like what is there to nerf

[hollow leaf]

They nerfed arms

[rancid crag]

Man who plays arms anyways

[hollow leaf]

After this? Not many

[rancid crag]

Should have jumped ship much earlier

[hollow leaf]

Fury didn't really get much

We got some qol stuff

Oh and ww spam

[rancid crag]

Wdym ww spam

[hollow leaf]

If ww hits 3+ targets it triggers reap

[rancid crag]

Wtf really ?

[hollow leaf]

In .5

[calm dock]

Fury
Hack and Slash has been redesigned – Rampage has 100% chance to refund a charge of Raging Blow.,
Improved Whirlwind now causes Whirlwind to apply Rend to all targets if Rend is known.,
(Slayer) Reap the Storm now triggers when Whirlwind hits 3 or more targets. Chance to trigger changed to 15% (was 30%).,
(Slayer) Imminent Demise no longer causes Sudden Death to trigger Reap the Storm.,
(Slayer) Unrelenting Onslaught now increases damage dealt by Bladestorm by 20%.,

[rancid crag]

What no more execute to proc reap

[calm dock]

nope but hey WW got better so have fun spamming ww and rampage fun

[rancid crag]

Wtf is this

Who came up with this wtf

It was so good

Why would they change it

[calm dock]

dk mains likely

[rancid crag]

Na i cant believe this

Wtf is this shit spamming ww for a 15 percent chance to trigger reap the storm

[calm dock]

if we get nerfed again the 17th i might have to jump ship to some other class for midnight as much as i hate that

[rancid crag]

Thats gonna play like ass and look like ass too

[hollow leaf]

I've got dk monk and dh prepped for raid so if warrior sucks ass ig we just go prot for the buff

[calm dock]

yea might jump to either Warlock or monk

[rancid crag]

Na its always fury but how can you fuck it up so badly

[hollow leaf]

I mean again this is all stuff for .5

[rancid crag]

All they had to do was make whirlwind apply rend

[hollow leaf]

so it's a good bit off

[edgy widget]

#updates-midnight message

[rancid crag]

Ohhh

[calm dock]

i mean Arms has been replaced with a roomba

[rancid crag]

Thank God its 0.5

[hollow leaf]

we'll see how it plays out, we're still waiting for tuning on the 17th

[glad coyote]

Tuning!!!

[calm dock]

surely they are just compensating for the massive buffs we get on the 17th right guys...right

[rancid crag]

It says 10 percent buff

For no reason dmg is good now we are keeping up

Im top dpsing most dungeons right now

[tepid lily]

are we

fine?

[rancid crag]

Yeah

[modest condor]

fury is

arms isnt

[hollow leaf]

fury is fine numbers wise

design wise is another thing

[calm dock]

i love having the core gameplay loop being worsend and then compensated with just marginal dpr increases

[rancid crag]

Why

Only rend is kinda weird

[dapper goblet]

arms getting a 15% buff while everything else is also increasing by 15%+

[rancid crag]

But its not that bad honestly

[dapper goblet]

quirky

[drifting token]

Another casual w for thane, alright alright alright

[rancid crag]

You should see the thane i gapped last run

[calm dock]

where did they get the new patchnotes from?

[hollow leaf]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/class-tuning-incoming-incoming-for-season-1-on-march-17-380784

[rare garnet]

how are we feeling chat

[hollow leaf]

we were good before we're better now

[calm dock]

they are not compensating unholy no no no

let them be bad just ones

[echo rapids]

Holy shit we got 10% aura

Arms only got 15% lol

[silent swift]

Still cant path to enraged regen properly

Hell yeah

[modest condor]

yeah arms is staying dead

[echo rapids]

The apex change looks good for them though

[gusty fern]

thank god

[fast mural]

fury is gonna slap

[blissful nimbus]

the proc reduction in reap is a bitch sadge but 10% buff lfg

fury time baby

[spring fox]

I don't see that happening without them updating talent trees in an actual patch

[compact knot]

arms st will be rough

[rancid crag]

Who needs enraged regen anyways just blame the healer if you die

[compact knot]

but i unironically think its aoe is some of the highest in the game

so

[calm dock]

thats it? isnt this a net nerf with reap being nerfed am i underrestimating how big a 10% buff is

[hollow leaf]

ig without sd proccing reap it just puts thane even more ahead

[fast mural]

we dont need enragee regen with stance mastery

[umbral dust]

XD

[orchid otter]

yeah

[olive wraith]

Bruh slayer is dead come .5

[random shadow]

so thane pretty much is just a 10% increase

[silent swift]

Even with those stupid 12.0.5 changes?

[random shadow]

and nothing else lol

[hollow leaf]

maybe if you're looking at slayer exclusively

[balmy shore]

login fury warrior

[modest condor]

hi jackie

[compact knot]

thats 12.0.5

[silent swift]

Ik

[compact knot]

they are prob reworking shit if i had to guess

so idk

[hollow leaf]

hi jackie

[calm dock]

i do mostly play slayer tbf

[silent swift]

Hopefully lol

[balmy shore]

hi silm

:3

[sudden tusk]

WHAT THE FUCK

[hollow leaf]

tbf I find thane boring af

[modest condor]

:4

[rancid crag]

Nah this 0.5 patch cant be final

[hollow leaf]

:5

[spring fox]

That's in 12.0.5. SD still proccing reap for a lot of prog

[lean heart]

i really hope they dont go thru with the reap changes in 0.5 lmao

[calm dock]

holy shit ret got some massive buffs

[rancid crag]

Nah jsut delete the discord at this point they gotta see our unrest

[lean heart]

real shit

[hollow leaf]

ye

[calm dock]

kinda seems we were buffed the least

[lean heart]

numbers go up

[rancid crag]

We are fine until 0.5 then its over

[brittle crow]

whyyyy nerf reap

we don't even play slayer in aoe

[rancid crag]

Na slayer is goated in aoe

[brittle crow]

if your brain is smooth

..

[tepid lily]

like if reap from BT it's "op"

even in ST i'm not even worried if reap procs

the chance it's bad bad

[spring fox]

Keep in mind that we only have the first pass at 12.0.5. We'll probably have more changes, and that's assuming no more balancing pushes before the patch

[cursive ridge]

they changing reap in .5 patch anyway

[tepid lily]

there is more changes i'm pretty sure

[edgy widget]

they seem really insistent that Reap should be a random fuck ass ability

[tepid lily]

like in manaforge raid

[edgy widget]

which I absolutely despise

[olive wraith]

Delete reap

[deft palm]

I hate it

[tepid lily]

there was some buffs mid rwf

[rancid crag]

What if we all write a ticket to support telling them to not go ahead with the whirlwind thing

[deft palm]

why are they doing that

i dont get it

[rancid crag]

Literally

[forest ginkgo]

I really enjoyed proccing reap the storm from SD but ig having fun isnt allowed

[edgy widget]

low proc/strong abilities are practically always worse than high proc/weaker abilities
because performance in WoW is all about consistency, not RNG fuckery that might not pop off until right before the last target dies

[rancid crag]

No reason

[deft palm]

figured

theyre just stupid

Ai balancing

[rancid crag]

Real

[winter condor]

chatgpt patch notes

[rancid crag]

Whoever made this isn’t playing fury

[olive wraith]

Also rend

[winter condor]

rend still gonna be higher prio than RB?

[deft palm]

Like theyre out of touch with the players who actually care for the class

[hollow leaf]

well rend will get applied with ww

[edgy widget]

I mean there was no change to that so...

[balmy shore]

fuck ass reap