fury

[livid arch]

I mean we literally have had ww spam, so I don’t really put it past them

[sullen dove]

im sure 6 real abilities is worse than 1 reap every 6 whirlwinds yippee!!!!

[coarse nest]

Idk why they didn’t consider that

[olive wraith]

Have fun taking RR

[dense elbow]

Good thing WW does decent dam by itself per cast

[sullen dove]

hell no it does not lol

[coarse nest]

Are they trying to force rampaging ruin..

[olive wraith]

I mean

With reap dead

[livid arch]

I can’t wait till bonegrinder becomes a talent

[olive wraith]

Losing reap drops large pull numbers by a fair bit afaik

[coarse nest]

@frigid zealot Making a new arms chat gif possible if you’re bored 😉

[charred estuary]

Surely with reap and deep wounds both being gutted in the last 2 months

Raw execute will be buffed right

[dense elbow]

Hah, no.

[young swan]

[coarse nest]

Do we really want raw execute buffed

[olive wraith]

Yes

[young swan]

yes

[sullen dove]

i mean it would be kind of cool to pretend to have an element of execute in us

and not just 25% bt damage

[outer talon]

While they're at it, shouldn't they nerf OF as well? I feel like it hasn't been nerfed enough

[young swan]

thane in execute is lowk fun as hell

[sullen dove]

you know the supposed "execute class"

[coarse nest]

Dare I say it

[olive wraith]

I don’t mind VC being good

[coarse nest]

Condemn

[sullen dove]

bring it back every nerf theyve ever made is forgiven

instantly

[young swan]

look at this beastmode execute phase

wow

[sullen dove]

best ability in the game

[dense elbow]

Look at that EXPLOSIVE burst!

[coarse nest]

Just make Condem absolutely fuk 100-80 / 20-0

Relevant lust warrior

[olive wraith]

Nah. Rend is more iconic

[coarse nest]

Imagine

[sullen dove]

yeah pretty explosive

[young swan]

slayer actually kinda goes hard in execute

[sullen dove]

oh that was thane u linked

u said it was fun

assumed it was good

[young swan]

yeah it is fun

[sullen dove]

why is on pull thane so massive

[young swan]

u never have to press RB

thats fun

[sullen dove]

surely not just lust

[young swan]

lust + avatar extensions

[sullen dove]

wack

[dapper goblet]

@sudden tusk whats worse, these warrior patch notes or playing against mo and krill

[coarse nest]

What.. that graph shows one lightning strike proc hmm

[sudden tusk]

mokrill

[ruby scaffold]

Maybe they should just bring back Annihilator so we can just auto attack and spam Whirlwind and watch YouTube on the second screen

[coarse nest]

Based

[sullen dove]

they already added 1 button rotation

have been able to do that for like 5 months

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/deadlock-mo-and-krill-krill-bebop-mast-gif-17826209199298110217

actual footage of madox on bebop?

[sullen dove]

what is that like 2016 roadhog hook or something

[dapper goblet]

not nearly as bad

[ruby scaffold]

I was having too much run reacting to Sudden Death proca, RIP

[dapper goblet]

people be gettin stuck

[sullen dove]

is that true i dont even see the other person

[dapper goblet]

hog would just crank you through small holes

[sullen dove]

dragged from the other side of the map

hog at least needed like a pixel visible

[dapper goblet]

you can see him run on the bridge

left ot right

[sullen dove]

o ig just rly baby

[sand hatch]

So let me get the patch notes right, Reap doesnt work in ST at all anymore? lol

[sullen dove]

nope

it will be aoe only and you will like it

and by like it of course we mean you will swap to thane no matter what

[desert dirge]

At least we're not arms?

[sullen dove]

will always have that going for us

last time arms was better when fury was like completely unusable had to have been like... sod right

[dense elbow]

PTR, not going live, so dont worry about it for now

[sand hatch]

You have a lot of faith in competence from Blizzard xD

[desert dirge]

That one fight in danathria

[sullen dove]

well both warriors were dogshit in nathria

but arms was pretty good in sanctum

dont think fury was that crazy tho

since then tho i dont think theres been a tier fury wasnt clearly better

[desert dirge]

Aura canceling bladestorm made me wanna die, or worse, play windwalker.

[sullen dove]

arms had bosses occasionally since then but not important ones

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-of-here-gif-24981088

[ruby scaffold]

That's my secret, my Warrior is -never- good, I need the "the Grey" title for my character.

[livid arch]

Arms had some bosses in 3rd tier of shadowlands

[sullen dove]

maybe most important arms bosses were like echo and sark i guess if you wanted but fury perfectly playable on those 2

lords of dread maybe

[dapper goblet]

arms on experiments

or w/e that boss was called

[sullen dove]

fuck that shit ass boss

[dapper goblet]

oh ok

[ruby scaffold]

I remember doing well in sepulcher, but I am sure it was the jailer mace doing all the heavy lifting

[livid arch]

I miss jailer mace 🙁

[olive wraith]

Wasn’t arms pretty good in voti

[sullen dove]

bring back gavel

yea it did have its bosses but think u just still fury'd raszageth no

[sudden tusk]

arms on Kurog was good too

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-prison-realm-sealed-mods-gif-17674603596758967110

[olive wraith]

But the arms fatal mark gaming

[sullen dove]

holy fatal mark

[olive wraith]

3mil execute

[dapper goblet]

fatal mark on razzy

ms didnt put it on when she flew away?

minus 1 talent

[sullen dove]

lmao

they buffed duration of that like 5 times

before it ended at like 3 minutes

almost impossible to lose

[dense elbow]

I still dont understand why it had to have a time limit

could just work as inkpod, just stay on

[olive wraith]

Just gotta wipe the raid if that happened

[ruby scaffold]

You could reapply it right before and it'd be up when she landed

[dapper goblet]

it fell off when you died too didnt it

[long flame]

These notes have me thinking what they have cooked for Tuesday, feels like it has to be light if they're gonna potentially flip our rotation on 0.5, right?

[sullen dove]

probably tho idk

[dapper goblet]

thats if it proc'd though

wasnt applied every ms

[dense elbow]

Nah, the cook they done for the 17th, going to make every single of us go:
"Omg, with the 12.0.5 changes too?! Holey! This is GENIUS!!"

[sullen dove]

yea i mean it theoretically shouldve had some like bad luck protection

[gusty cloak]

do you guys use details still or blizzard meters?

[dapper goblet]

details and suffer

[sullen dove]

details just makes blizzard meters look way better

[dense elbow]

details for the looks

[sullen dove]

but both do the same thing

[ruby scaffold]

Am just using the default blizzard ones with a smol addon to give me a "toggle meter window" keybind

[long flame]

Wasn't there a whole thing with Details recently? Something something kill switch?

[sullen dove]

weakauras like died but everytihng else mostly untouched

[olive wraith]

Rb +10%
OF longer bleeds but +10%
Bs +5%

[sullen dove]

damage meter functionality as a whole was just killed tho

whether details or not

[hollow leaf]

replaced my 201 gloves yippee

[sullen dove]

you just cant see as much as you used to

[dense elbow]

Nah:
Ramp, BT, RB; +35%
execute; +10%

[dapper goblet]

crazy its top secret information looking at someones damage mid fight

w blizzard

[ruby scaffold]

I keep getting same three slots from all the Veteran gear sources :(

[sullen dove]

buff uptime and number of casts/hits/crit%?

nah

end your life right now

[olive wraith]

You think bt gets buffed?

Interesting

[dapper goblet]

i like looking at number of hits (1)

30 sec trash pull

[sullen dove]

5 million damage per 0.000283 casts

[dapper goblet]

ah yes 1 cast of chain lightning

[sullen dove]

poggers

[ruby scaffold]

/sobs

[dense elbow]

I forgot the new baby, so:

Rend +35%

[olive wraith]

[red berry]

does fury needa buff

[sullen dove]

kinda

[red berry]

sincere question i actually dont know

[olive wraith]

Maybe they add a talent that new rend adds to existing rend damage

[sullen dove]

its mid ish

[honest trail]

Quick question to confirm:

Thane AOE prio Clap>BB at 6+ targets, BB>Clap at =<5 targets

Right?

[dense elbow]

Kinda not really, but I am used to being 5-15% behind the pack, and just be fine with it

[long flame]

Imagine Rend getting completely worked over. Duration changes, initial hit damage changes, etc.

[undone flower]

It’s >6, so 7 and over

[long flame]

Just random shit to justify it going on WW

[olive wraith]

Initial hit doesn’t matter now

[sullen dove]

its... what?

6 so....

[undone flower]

6 7

[ruby scaffold]

I'd like something like "each hit of Rampage has a chance to make your Rend fuck shit up"

[olive wraith]

Bt already amps rend

[dense elbow]

So RB should amp Rend more, is what you saying

[long flame]

That's kind my point, they kick it even further down and buff the tick dmg or something. Or just have it be a pure debuff effect, no spell at all

[hollow leaf]

numbers wise we're okay but need some design changes

[dense elbow]

RB increases rend dam by 20%, stacking up to 5 times, lasts 6 seconds

[wise geode]

someone tell me what to think about the ptr patch notes

did them finally adding rend into whirlwind make slayer peak again? please tell me i can bladestorm guilt-free

[honest trail]

BB prio over clap at 6 & clap prio at more

kay

[olive wraith]

But initial hit means nothing since it’s completely passive now

[undone flower]

Just delete the clap line if under 7 yes

[flat river]

Doom

[honest trail]

Except during Ava, better than RB

[dense elbow]

Very peak, top of peak, just be happy lill' dude

[honest trail]

But under BB

[wise geode]

hell yeah

[tardy matrix]

[dense elbow]

If he happy, I am happy

[olive wraith]

Maybe they should shorten rend duration. Since 15s is meaningless now

[dense elbow]

I can stew in my missery any day of the week, doesnt mean I want others to drown in my bog of shit

[dense elbow]

Nah, make rend stack, like deepwounds

[sullen dove]

brain damage 👍

[valid pulsar]

wait with the changes they posted we can not get reap in single target encounters at all or am i stupid ?

[olive wraith]

Why did they remove reap the storm~~ from execute~~

Fixed it

Sd or bt

[static mountain]

Yup

[honest trail]

y fair

[valid pulsar]

but what about single target bro i need reaps in single target fights as well

they can not just take away my reaps

hell no

[dense elbow]

Close to, at certain target counts, probably

At 5, nah, 8 prob a toss up, 9+ prob get em WWs out

[olive wraith]

It actually doesn’t anymore

[honest trail]

I usually use Maxroll & don't think they precised the targets number to switch

[young swan]

@sullen dove ww spam might actually be real at 3+ targets

[static mountain]

If i got it correctly u can reap only from ww

[young swan]

correct

[undone flower]

Check multiple + apl if you want to be stinky

[olive wraith]

RR coming back since aoe is dead is my guess

[honest trail]

Usually cross Maxroll, Icyveins & Archon + analyse diff sims situations, but not this early xD

[valid pulsar]

they probably posted this to have a good laugh while watching this discord channel no way this goes live xD

[sullen dove]

i mean just hows is this possible

reap is not that good

[honest trail]

I'll do that when season starts

[dense elbow]

Napkin math, they break even at 5, at 8 WW does equal dam to BT per cast - and can reap. Above that, well, my guess ya just WW as the difference wont go the other way in favour of BT any time soon

[honest trail]

Just was looking for quick confirmation from my own testing

[sullen dove]

1/6 whirlwinds proccing reap

or cast 5 other abilities

[dense elbow]

Reap got is dam value reduced, or nah? Didnt check

[olive wraith]

Reduced damage to secondary targets though

[valid pulsar]

bruh 💀

relax dog

[dense elbow]

Either way, WW does equal dam to BT raw on 5, so reap add is just bonus dam at that point. Only question will be rage eco

[undone flower]

It just need to be > rb to be ww spam

[sullen dove]

why r we saying rb too

bt is still good

and rampage??

[honest trail]

Don't say that <@&257983573498265600>

[sullen dove]

k dont have to be weird about it lol

[undone flower]

Slayer doesn’t have infinite buttons

[dense elbow]

Sore, if you feel the need you need to mention "you need to use rampage", come on

[sullen dove]

🔉

[olive wraith]

I think ramp is still good. But you can’t cast it often if ww is your main aoe

[stable stump]

who the fk is the dev who thinks that this shit was a good change

[sullen dove]

i mean if anyones boutta tell me you will hit 4 wws in a row instead of as many ramps as possible if it comes to that

[valid pulsar]

Archi will save us

[sullen dove]

will just say we are flat lying

[olive wraith]

You can’t ramp as often though

No rage gen

[hot shell]

Lets face it. With reap not proccing on bt anymore, thane will be the better hero in all situations. Probably.

[sullen dove]

you can ramp almost 3 times in a row when you pop your cds

[undone flower]

You press BT THEN WHAT if you don’t have enough rage for rampage, but I don’t believe in ww spam propaganda

[sullen dove]

if you hit ww as often as thunderclap or close to it sure

but what im hearing is "you will hit ww 4 times in a row" when someone says ww spam

and im saying there is no chance

[dense elbow]

Mhm, but ppl talk about not only Reck window

[flat cargo]

Bruh, what is up with ya'll today

[olive wraith]

And outside of cd?

[sullen dove]

sure you hit all the buttons you can then you hit ww you already do that now basically

[undone flower]

You will hit ww until bt is off cd or you can rampage is not better

[tardy matrix]

[sullen dove]

rampage is not better than ww what

[dense elbow]

Likely you will press BT for the Enrage extended rage gain, so you can do another WW - sounds fair to me

[sullen dove]

the plot is lost

gg go thane

[tardy matrix]

They're turning slayer into Thaner. I am upset.

[honest trail]

Thanks, sorry for the ping

[flat cargo]

Nah appreciate the ping

[hot shell]

Despite that, not having any rts on singletarget is WILD

[undone flower]

I’m saying it just needs to be better than rb to have a cringe rotation

[dense elbow]

Not before SD now becomes "Execute and cast WW"

Soon tho, soon

[tardy matrix]

Like what's the point of having two independent hero trees at this point

[sullen dove]

yea i mean i guess but thats not much different than what we already doin

[dense elbow]

They might do things to fix our dam profile the 17th

[sullen dove]

ww moves slightly above rb sure thats not as bad

still cringe

[dense elbow]

there is hope

[sullen dove]

but like you still got ramp/bt/execute maybe

[undone flower]

Yeah but this world would use a cancel aura macro

[olive wraith]

Is execute usable in aoe though?

[somber eagle]

yo, do we craft next week weapon with hero, champ or vet crests with spark ofc?

[sullen dove]

who be using RR doe

[olive wraith]

Dw nerfed and no reap

[undone flower]

Just for the talent above RR

[tardy matrix]

After seeing ptr notes? I have no hope

[dense elbow]

17th will save us

hold out

[sullen dove]

cant use champ crests and vet weapon is no spark, and should definitely not ever use hero crests on a craft

[undone flower]

The talent where ww does more dmg bc more targets

[young swan]

hold till mythic week and craft mythic wep

[olive wraith]

RR is coming to a slayer near you

[hot shell]

Just... dont touch slayer

[dense elbow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/school-miles-grade-bIRFRUxcRG3Sw

[hot shell]

And we gucci

[stable stump]

like always blizzard killing warriors at the start of the season

[tardy matrix]

Even if it does, we're still getting these dog changes

[dense elbow]

Sure, but that is a problem for future you

[stable stump]

in the second week comes nerfs now

[young swan]

u know these changes arent coming until 12.0.5 which is in, at minimum, 8 weeks right

[tardy matrix]

I refuse to play thane so they turn slayer into thane.

I'm just gonna jump

[somber eagle]

alr

[dense elbow]

To DK, right?

[stable stump]

really?

[dense elbow]

Jump to DK right?!

[young swan]

please read before expressing outrage

[stable stump]

yeah jump to dk

[dense elbow]

I get the kneejerk outrage tho, the SD one warrants some rage

[inland flame]

Wait am I really bad at reading (I am really tired) or is Reap not going to proc ST anymore

[young swan]

i get the outrage just be outraged at the right thing

[hot shell]

Reap wont procc st

[olive wraith]

You are correct

[rare garnet]

They removed rend so it’s a win

[dense elbow]

nah

[hot shell]

15% chance from ww. Nothing more nothing less

[undone flower]

Mb @snoredih I messed up with the beta ww talent about the cancelaura macro

[olive wraith]

Iconic ability that’s now passive

[sullen dove]

snoredih

[inland flame]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-confused-look-gif-24835232

[rare garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/iconic-icon-dog-pomeranian-funny-gif-15363756060953670191

[quiet geyser]

With hitting 3+ targets*

[hot shell]

Yes. Shouldve included that

[dense elbow]

what if they are moving the dam profile from reap, so they can purely buff BS

see, there is hope

[valid pulsar]

at least they didnt touch bm so i can still play the game while half asleep

[hot shell]

Atleast UHDK gets buffed so they can deal our dmg

[quiet geyser]

The best idea I've seen so far, I think it was xan's was making execute proc reap exclusively. Smaller % on base execute, guaranteed on sudden death. Boom everything fixed

[undone flower]

Most likely exactly what they are doing tbf

[dense elbow]

They removed what, 75% of reaps dam - give or take, that all goes into BS

would look nice as a dam profile

50% of the dam of reap was SD procs, 30% to 15% is another 50% cut

good enough math for me

[tardy matrix]

Idk why they felt the need to cut reap proc chance in half though that's gonna feel real bad I think

[olive wraith]

Simple

Reap isn’t our aoe tool anymore

[dense elbow]

I am fine with it, if they are going the BS amp path

[sullen dove]

big if

[dense elbow]

Yeah, but I am trying to be positive

[olive wraith]

That’s the real question lol

[undone flower]

ww spam is a low if

[olive wraith]

Could also buff OF

[hot shell]

Dont touch slayer, youll be fine

[dense elbow]

OF affects Thane as well

[rare garnet]

200% OF buff

[hot shell]

No idea why they hate slayer so much but.. meh

[dense elbow]

OF would again, buff Thane as well

[olive wraith]

So nerf clap

[rare garnet]

Good thane needs buffs too

[olive wraith]

Clap is already too good imo

[dense elbow]

But that doesnt help to make up for the reap dam loss, for the hero spec vs the %dam total of Thane

[hot shell]

Updates patchnotes for 17th: "Thunderclap no longer applies rend, only whirlwind does"

[dense elbow]

So it must be reap down, either Exe/SD/slayerstrikes up

or

BS

So I presume it gonna be some giga buffs for BS

[olive wraith]

I wish you luck

[dense elbow]

This makes sense, my brain likes this logic, so I will stick with it to fill my copium stores

[hot shell]

Well, BS got buffed by 20%

Which... is nowhere close to rts damage

[dense elbow]

20% does not make up for the reap loss, but it is a start

hell yeah, edits ftw

[hot shell]

I have fat fingers i typed famage

Dont judge me

[rare garnet]

Makes sense lightning cauterized and burns swords slash and bleed.

[dark elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1128242149377462306/1436738385632035018/abizty.gif

[tardy matrix]

I'm just glad my huntard got the 240 bow last night. Maybe I can still have fun on one of the classes I liked

[olive wraith]

I wonder why they didn’t just leave bt reaps chance

[inland flame]

Should just say dps warr lol

[snow flower]

Reap not proccing on ST feels like a weird design choice

[rare garnet]

They need thane to be the only AOE spec for m+ can’t have them be equal

[rotund fiber]

up or nerf?> they cant make both dd spec low, right?

[hot shell]

Thane for aoe?
Bruv, with those changes thane is st and aoe king

[ruby scaffold]

Is Thane still being stupid where Thunderblast does less damage than Thunderclap?

[olive wraith]

This hurts slayer st too though

[olive wraith]

Yes

[rare garnet]

Will get buffed

[inland flame]

Less direct damage but worth more damage per cast

[shut pivot]

..right ?

[hot shell]

I need new fury/uhdk sims. The gap wasnt big enough yet

[olive wraith]

Slayer forced into rb talents and pray aa gets buffed

[waxen vale]

dk is just a better warrior

[rotund fiber]

both spec can`t be bad!

[rare garnet]

They could also just moon RB again for slayer

[tardy matrix]

I can't wrap my brain around how to play udk

I tried 😭

[hot shell]

Are you new to warrior

[shut pivot]

keep saying that blizz begs to disagree

[waxen vale]

🙁

[rotund fiber]

im from 3.3.5 warmane

[olive wraith]

Tbf we have to assume this keeps march 17 tuning in mind

What that actually entails is unknown

[shut pivot]

go back to warmane save yourself

[tardy matrix]

I wish they'd give us the 17th patch notes today/tomorrow so they can ruin my weekend while they're at it

[rotund fiber]

i cant see ice crown anymore. i feel barfy

[hot shell]

Ill be in another country for the first 3 weeks of the new season.
So you guys show them how bad we are and i pray that warrior is good by the time im back.
Thanks

[olive wraith]

@dense elbow I’m adding a RR buff to my guess

[sullen dove]

or removal if they pretend to know what they're doing for once

[olive wraith]

But RR aligns with one of the more common fury complaints!!

[sullen dove]

the only way rr becomes usable is if it just still does a normal rampage

[tulip bone]

just started wow on fury warrior when does it get better

[sullen dove]

at minimum max dmg st but maybe even normal cleave dmg up to 5 targets

[dense elbow]

• removes reap RNG from unhinged. Removing the giga swing issue.
• If we dont spam WW on mass AoE, not having it on BT further reduces the impact of Reap in the profile

[sullen dove]

and nerf to tiny amount of dmg after 5 who cares

[olive wraith]

Sd removal kinda does that though

[dense elbow]

Unhinged and SD are not the same issue

One is a proc, but one decides the outcome of your build up CD

[stable stump]

general question, unholy dk got a little nerf right?

thanks

[smoky nacelle]

took 5secs (12.0.5)

[dense elbow]

Prepatch info, not 17th tuning info

So we dont know, but maybe some will come

[stable stump]

thats a buff wtf

[hot shell]

Yes

As i said

20% higher than anyone wasnt enough to make all melees uhdk

[dense elbow]

Say that again the 17th, and i will give you the point

[hot shell]

Ill remind you every single day if you want to

[olive wraith]

I hope they drop march 17 tuning today too

[tardy matrix]

I mean funky is right - we don't know what is happening with tuning on the 17th but knowing Blizzard... Arms nerfs, fury side grade changes, udk buffs incoming

[calm swallow]

Say psyke

[dense elbow]

Doubt that

They prob still panicing about forgotten to buff arms

[tardy matrix]

Yes please ruin my whole weekend so I can be miserable all at once instead of delaying my suffering

[olive wraith]

Gives you a weekend to reroll

Or unsb

[tardy matrix]

Already working on my huntard backup

[dense elbow]

Make a feral

[tardy matrix]

Druid didn't really appeal to me tbh

[hot shell]

Give in to temptation, play uhdk

[tardy matrix]

That was my first 90. My small brain can't figure out how to do dam outside of DT/Army

Therefore shelved it

[hot shell]

Well

[covert blaze]

wtf is this reap proc from whirlwind change
hello????

[hot shell]

Honestly?

[tardy matrix]

They saw fury wasn't as depressed as arms and needed to fix it

[hot shell]

Outbreak, Epidemic spam, deathcoil on st.
Those 3 buttons > warriors

[olive wraith]

Fury still looking better than arms

Not that that’s a high bar

[hot shell]

Arms will lose their legs soon too

[covert blaze]

it's problematic for reasons unrelated to tuning

[spiral ridge]

So no more reap in ST eh?

[open mountain]

possible to sim the renown trinket with a workaround or something? it has high uptime (50% in logs) but zero in sims 😄

[olive wraith]

Correct

[dusk knot]

why primal spore heal allies when in wowhead it says it cant heal allies

[edgy widget]

cause blizz changes stuff all the time

[rare garnet]

[sullen dove]

this kinda cool if they make it work

shifting back and forth between dragon and human several times in combat is def some aura

[radiant plank]

craft arcanoweave lining instead

or darkmoonsigil hunt for wep

[hot shell]

Is there any warrior ability that requires dragonform? Ive never played that race

[sullen dove]

nah think this is only for evokers specifically

like fire breath and disintegrate coming out of your mouth

and deep breath im sure

but like living flames maybe eternity surge and pyre and shit in human form idk could be cool

goin back and forth

tho there is a disint animation for non dragons when you have toys and stuff on could keep that off too

[hot shell]

I just had an image in my head to have normal form and change into a dragon during reck and i loved that image

[sullen dove]

ya would be funny if you could pick which spells it does it on but that seems way less likely

[olive wraith]

Shyvanna coming to WoW?

[hot shell]

Its fine, just cosmetics anyways. Dont we all swallow noggenfogger like water

[spare steppe]

So why exactly is there dooming, our rotation didn’t change in ST and thane didn’t change in aoe; there’s still tuning pass too

[quiet geyser]

Do you like never getting a reap proc in ST?

[hot shell]

We always doom so we dont get disappointed when we actually are

[lament lagoon]

Are we worse now help me zugerstand

[modest condor]

because they finally did something right (sd procs reap) and then they were like nah this makes too much sense let's link it to whirlwind instead

enjoy spamming whirlwind on 3+ targets

[smoky nacelle]

i can't stand the sound of WW

[rare garnet]

Their balance decisions are like an untrained child playing with a yo-yo

[hot shell]

Its one of those
"Warriors cant get much worse"
"Hold my beer"
-blizzard

Thing

[olive wraith]

Made rend irrelevant after claiming its iconic. And this appears to butcher slayer aoe

[snow flower]

Regardless of literally any numbers, it feels super weird for them to make Reap a completely dead talent for every single purely ST boss

[spare steppe]

Ah that’s fair, I’ve been enjoying thane for aoe since I did slayer all last season

Didn’t really think about reap in ST

[hot shell]

Thane is no change. Thane will most likely beat slayer in ST now too

[olive wraith]

Can’t make that call just yet imo

[hot shell]

Ofc not we still dont know whatll come but ill call it now

[olive wraith]

I think we’re seeing rb buffs

[spare steppe]

I’m very curious to see how much RB gets buffed on Tuesday

[rare garnet]

Dude the aura of we had dragons roar

[hot shell]

Wish theyd put wrecking throw or drsgons roar as an option

So you either specc st or aoe

[spare steppe]

Just gotta buff RB by 30% and make it give BT a stacking crit buff, what could go wrong

[hot shell]

Now, heres the thing

[olive wraith]

My guess for 17th tuning is rb buff, RR buff, and maybe a slayer st talent buff

[spare steppe]

Don’t forget a WW base damage nerf

[olive wraith]

Doubt

[hot shell]

We get free rend on ww now.
If RB gets buffed its very likely that the bleed playstyle will be gone or only slightly specced into, making it kinda redundant to have rend again in the first place

But lets wait and see

[olive wraith]

What bleed playstyle?

We don’t focus on bleeds at all

[dense elbow]

Some ppl argue pressing BT for reap procs, also included pressing it to buff bleeds by 20% on 5t

[olive wraith]

Don’t we just press bt cause it’s good currently ?

[hot shell]

Check out how much bleed stuff we currently have skilled, das what i mean

[olive wraith]

Like what specifically would change?

I get we have 5 bleeds but they’re all basically passive

[silk fjord]

Sound design in general has sucked in a lot of places since late Legion

Not to mention not being able to hear other players in instanced content

Like wtf is going on there lmao

[hot shell]

If we get rb as main ability again? Youll get rid of some of those talents again. And it does add up, so rb would have to be quite a bit stronger

Wait and see is what we do

[prisma cobalt]

hi, i create a weapon or wrist? idk

[hot shell]

None of it is guaranteed anyways yet

[young swan]

dont craft until mythic week

[olive wraith]

Idk man I think fresh meat or something would go first

[radiant plank]

joe mama

[onyx jewel]

can i spend adventurer crests freely

[young swan]

yep

[hot shell]

Yes but we are talking.. 6? Skillpoints we need to reallocate to rb talents

Its just a big IF anyways, lets wait and see

[onyx jewel]

thank you

[olive wraith]

If we actually take all 6

Not sure the aa one is relevant

Also I count 3 talents for st or am I blind

[prisma cobalt]

ty

[olive wraith]

4* sorry

[polar jolt]

what are people playing for mythics? slayer or MT? im playing MT right now and i just am not loving the playstyle of it.

[dense elbow]

I just go Slayer and crush

[radiant plank]

larias guide said dw specs can craft asap....

[young swan]

doing anything but crafting a mythic weapon is definitely troll as fuck

[radiant plank]

Just loot one from the boss

[young swan]

2 weapons

[brittle fox]

What add on you using to get your character screen like that?

[radiant plank]

arms only uses one weapon buddy

[sullen dove]

craft a normal weap and recraft cluegi

[prisma cobalt]

elvui

[young swan]

sounds like shit

[young swan]

good thing arms isnt a real spec

[sullen dove]

minus like 10k gold o no

[radiant plank]

sounds optimal ngl

send a baseline spark ilvl weapon craft

kino

[young swan]

sure i guess

but that wasnt really the question

still better to hold in all circumstances

[left elk]

What do yall think about my fury warrior

[sullen dove]

fantastic

[spare steppe]

But we can spend veteran crests right?

[young swan]

looks epic

[tardy matrix]

My brother

[young swan]

would maybe fix all of the bars u arent using

[young swan]

optimally u dont spend until before heroic raid

but u probably arent in a situation where that matters

[radiant plank]

gotta have space for the tmog keybinds

[tardy matrix]

I always forget how ugly base UI looks

🤮

[spare steppe]

Nah we get to the penultimate mythic boss, it’s a nice casual environment

[shut pivot]

need a couple more bars

[young swan]

yeah u can just spend if u want

i spent mine

dont really matter

[left elk]

What bars do I need?

[sullen dove]

6 or 7 more

[smoky vale]

6 or 7 less

[spare steppe]

Appreciate ya!

[bold forge]

Such a shame reactions are disabled

[tardy matrix]

I can't even use my fun emotes

😭

[smoky vale]

use

[tranquil field]

Is there a tier set gain by class spreadsheet anywhere? Can't seem to find one this tier.

[bold forge]

Really funny how the arms channel is still going hard

Gotta appreciate the consistency of the meme speccers

[sullen dove]

arms will have a bitcoin moment this expansion

trust

[random shadow]

I mean if I played arms id too

[sullen dove]

one patch it will be the best raid spec in the game

[smoky vale]

to the moon

[sullen dove]

then fall to healer dps for another 3 expacs

[smoky vale]

🚀 🌙

[hot shell]

You mean the moment when it dropped from 100 to 50k right

[shut pivot]

i cried, bless you man

[young swan]

ulria's will prob have it, ours is like 3.5% or something

its very bad

[spare steppe]

Wait what

[young swan]

generally speaking anywyas

idk how it compares to others

[olive wraith]

3.5% sounds about average across the last 2 xpac

[random shadow]

3.5 is lame tho

[dense elbow]

3.5% sounds pretty solid

[shut pivot]

unless there are either giga buffs or something about single target on slayer/thane(puke)

[sullen dove]

i mean manaforge was like 20

[olive wraith]

Outlier

[shut pivot]

i think we are moving to reroll tier

[spare steppe]

20 isn’t good though because then when tier leaves, sadness comes

[random shadow]

But it could be more then 3.5

[dense elbow]

could be a lot less

[random shadow]

Yes but could be massively more

[dense elbow]

could be a dps minus

[random shadow]

Nah. That'd be arms

Tier set ain't that bad

[dense elbow]

Tierset swaps us to Arms Spec, every time we use reck

[bleak bluff]

hello guys~
just saw the questionable updates to warrior
although in see some QOL changes, it seems slayer is nerfed a little bit.
am i right?

[random shadow]

Get a rebuffed when using tier set

Debuff*

[sour anvil]

Wait, did they remove the BT/MS proc from Reap the Storm?! Whaat

[shut pivot]

if by nerfed you mean shot in head and burried in a ditch... yeah a bit nerfed

[random shadow]

Just like the one guy form of mice and man

[bleak bluff]

lol that bad.... i maybe underestimated here

[shut pivot]

the game..was rigged from the start

[tardy matrix]

Sucks cus my guild wants me to play warrior but I no longer have a desire since they're taking slayer from me

[small tinsel]

Thanks again for the help btw so when i started i was told by a friend to always make my loot spec to be arms so that i would only get 2 handers in vault

However after alot of research im pretty sure ive been an idiot and he meant to switch it for the vault not

All my gear has been giving me crit items and think thats had a big impact

[tardy matrix]

Your friend trolled the absolute fuck out of you

[random shadow]

The loot spec doesnt change the stat prio no? It only for 2 handers no?

[young swan]

correct

also not a thing anymore

[random shadow]

I have no issues getting haste mastery

Items while being on arms loot spec

[small tinsel]

ahh ok so in that case ive just been unlucky with the loot ive been getting ?

[bleak bluff]

oh shit really?! i had it on arms this whole time!!!

[small tinsel]

whats not a thing now sorry ?

[young swan]

swapping loot spec to arms for great vault

it no longer matters

[small tinsel]

ooo thank god

[young swan]

or just in general

not just vault

[dense elbow]

I am going to do it either way, cause I dont trust the system

[random shadow]

Ptsd tells me to be arms loot spec

I dont wanna see a 1 hander anymore

[tranquil field]

Thanks friend. I was looking for the overall so I can see all classes as well. I imagine they release soon enough.

[remote bobcat]

you will not get this habit out of my system fuck youuuuuuu

[snow flower]

Oh, so I can't use Fury loot spec to target both 1H and 2H anymore? Oop

[random shadow]

Who actually targets 1 handers from fury lootspec

I've always just done prot

[bleak bluff]

um another question
it seems that 12.05 will bring back additional loot via dice
does that mean the dice system will replace dinars(cartel chips?)
does anyone know?!

[young swan]

u have the same info we do

[snow flower]

Some dungeons have both, and I want both

So lazy fury loot spec, covers both

[young swan]

its probably replacing chips tho

[snow flower]

well, historically

[small tinsel]

So does anyone know much about the Simming settings ?

I wanted to check if I'm reading this correct

am i right in thinking that as ive set the fight to 1:30 vs 5 Target dummies

The below screenshot is reading that i should be able to achieve 112,924 DPS in that time if i do my rotation correct ?

[young swan]

link the sim

hard to tell without the full picture

[small tinsel]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w6fCdJTGza7wqfPa8YRbeQ

[young swan]

you would be correct, yes

actually it should be higher, you have battle shout disabled

obviously you wont have that disabled in practice

[small tinsel]

im pretty sure my thunder clap is so low as my haste is so low

[random shadow]

Eh. Not sure how much haste would affect clap that much

[small tinsel]

hmm how i enable that lol

[random shadow]

Slayer feels great with more haste thi

[young swan]

it shouldnt have much effect

[hybrid yew]

Do the 12.0.5 changes mean we may potentially go back to raging blow? At least for single target?

[winter shoal]

Depends on the tuning that happens next week

And if the current 12.0.5 changes go live without further iteration then we're cooked anyways so doesn't matter

[hybrid yew]

At least they made AoE a bit better 😪

[rotund fiber]

still A tier?

[remote bobcat]

tier lists are fake

[olive wraith]

You mean worse

[remote bobcat]

we will never be meta

[dense elbow]

Nothing changes before the 17th, Dzot

[young swan]

thane will still be decent in m+ regardless of what happens unless if fury actually just gets shot in the face on the 17th

[tardy matrix]

By removing reap from SD????

[olive wraith]

An bt!

[remote bobcat]

ww ww ww ww

[dense elbow]

They buffed BS tho, come on - stay positive! Surely that indicates huge BS buffs to make up for the profile dam loss

[rotund fiber]

if nothing changes - so it isnt bad, right? i mean both specs specs should never be at the bottom of the DPS list.

[random shadow]

Are we gonna even get the patch notes for the 17th

[dense elbow]

we aint bottom tho, so dont worry

[tardy matrix]

I am because I don't wanna be temu zeus

But they're forcing it on me and turning me into a thaner

[random shadow]

Fury is considered mid or higher on the list. Where you get fury is at the bottom?

[dense elbow]

I will slay as always, and only be 5-10% behind the Thane boys

[random shadow]

Adms 100% is

[dense elbow]

as every time

I aint worried

[tardy matrix]

Ya I'm not super concerned about the dam

[rotund fiber]

i know it. middle is a good. without FOTM change class or SM else

[tardy matrix]

I just hate the playstyle of thane

[hybrid yew]

Oops I overlooked those

Okay we cooked

[dense elbow]

Nah nah nah

cause you see

they just making it so they can GIGA buff BS

[olive wraith]

Good thing slayer will play pretty similarly now

[tardy matrix]

And now slayer is being pigeonholed to play the same style of spam ww

[random shadow]

You and your bladestorm

[rotund fiber]

Look, I get it. Everything in the Discord feels like a funeral for both specs right now. But honestly, if Fury stays as is, we're actually in a pretty decent sp

[tardy matrix]

I am only playing warrior to do my weekly key + raid, huntard is my new main

Wouldn't even do that if guild didn't want me on war

[hybrid yew]

I’m also a slayer stan

[olive wraith]

.5 changes promote a shitty gameplay

[hybrid yew]

I miss war within season 3

[olive wraith]

Unless 17th tuning comes in clutch

[random shadow]

Eh we worry when we get there. 0.5 ain't coming till like 2 months later

[tardy matrix]

17th could be giga op super buff and id still be annoyed with .5

[drifting token]

Am I just in the minority of loving thane infinitely more, like that loop is so satisfying I don't get the aversion to it

[random shadow]

Worry more about the 17rh lol

[hybrid yew]

Wait so they’re coming up with two sets of changes?

17th and on patch 12.0.5?

[river nimbus]

yes

[dense elbow]

even more than that too

[random shadow]

The ones that came out is ptr notes

Not the 17th

[tardy matrix]

A lot of people like thane. I just find the gameplay loop insanely boring so I am a slayer stan

[dense elbow]

12.0.5: Rise of Bladestorm Slayer

Trust

[tardy matrix]

And they're taking that away from me

By turning my beloved slayer into thane 2.0

[random shadow]

How is slayer that different tho?

Besides bladestorm every so often if its generally the same gameplay loop

[drifting token]

Yeah see that's what I don't get, I feel like slayer is consistently been the more one dimensional one

[undone flower]

you have thunderclap gameplay making thane kinda unique

[kind bolt]

dunno the reap the storm changes seem weird

[robust onyx]

Is crafting Hero 2h worth 1st week as we will have to recraft it to Myth the week after?

[undone flower]

not really

[tardy matrix]

It's not clap clap clap clap

[random shadow]

Dont think wasting hero crests then myth is worth

[tardy matrix]

And now slayer is going to be ww ww ww ww ww ww ramp

[random shadow]

I mean its the same thing. Ramp clap ramp clap instead of Bt ramp bt ramp etc

But thats only like 6+ target or whatever

[tardy matrix]

Idk it feels better and scratches my brain in a good way

And thane doesn't

[undone flower]

yeah they are similar outside the clap every gcd thing, but it is still a thing

[random shadow]

Slayers probably dope. Played a few dungeons. Id just want more haste for slayer then currently have

[lime vortex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413241837900005386/reaptech.gif

[random shadow]

Im probably just a bad player but st bosses in dungeons i judt do more in thane

[lime vortex]

This but WW

[random shadow]

But thane hits hard in aoe so more aoe deeps

[random shadow]

I enjoyed that season even tho it was my off alt at the time

[olive wraith]

Slayer is about to feel clunky

[random shadow]

Is in 2 months from now so no worries

[dense elbow]

Nah, they gonna buff Ramp/BT/RB, pushing WW down in the profile - turning us towards being a 5t high dam spec again. Then they move the what, 10-15% overall dam lost from Reap into pure BS burst damage

trust it will be great

[lime vortex]

Was an absolute blast for sure

[tardy matrix]

I wish I could be as optimistic as you Funky

[olive wraith]

Got Boring for me

[tardy matrix]

And truthfully I hope you're right

[dense elbow]

Trust in the Funky, when I am wrong, we can doom together

[tardy matrix]

Because God damn do I hate how long aimed shot takes to cast lmao

[random shadow]

Is there a reason you like BS this much?

[dense elbow]

I love explosive burst damage

[tardy matrix]

It feels good to spin and win

[random shadow]

But what about the downtime between each BS

[dense elbow]

What about it? Our rotation flows well, amp up SD procs a bit, and I get all I want

[random shadow]

I see

[undone flower]

it's almost the only spell with more than auto attack animation, we are cavemen seeing fire with char spinning

[tardy matrix]

It really doesn't feel like there's huge CD in between to me

[random shadow]

I forget how zug we are as a spec

[tardy matrix]

Idk my brain is weird

[hybrid yew]

Slayer gang rise up I don’t want to keep spamming thunder cheek clappers

[shadow maple]

why i fell fury to slow now? i have 800 haste btw

[undone flower]

you have 800 haste.

[dense elbow]

Cause you are used to having 60-90% haste, now you got 30-50%

[random shadow]

800 doesnt sound much including talents

[earnest canyon]

can you craft veteren level items without a spark?

[random shadow]

Yes

[earnest canyon]

how? sparks are red for me

it seems to need sparks to put the order in

[random shadow]

You havw to craft the blue items instead

Of the purple ones

[undone flower]

i think it's another item yes

[dense elbow]

If it is blue, you can just buy it from the AH tho?

[olive wraith]

For me I like the idea of our aoe damage coming from cooldowns. Even if that means in between we do less

[dense elbow]

[earnest canyon]

hmm...some priest in my guild has made one for 80 crests, but i cant see how, it just asks for sparks

[wicked scarab]

Crests are in the optional reagents

[random shadow]

Idk id like if we just do damage snd then do even more during cds

[dense elbow]

High ST
low Sustained AoE
Crazy AoE burst

Add SD procs, that chunk AoE dam as well

Peak gameplay dream

[slow sedge]

is RR hated as Thane just because of the ST cancel aura or am i missing smthg ? just finished the world tour and the damage is just so much better with it

[random shadow]

Id thst chunk damage? Thought SD procs was lower prio during cds

Or is this during off cds

[dense elbow]

SD is send atm

it does good dam

[bold lichen]

So is slayer going to be the better hero talent for M+ after 12.0.5 with how it is now? or is it too soon?

[white relic]

i'm late to the party. changes for hack and slash puts the raging blow route back on the map?

[random shadow]

Doubt it

Rb is noodle

[white grove]

Is fury gonna be dead now too or still just arms?

[dense elbow]

100% too soon to say, as it was changed - Slayer dead dead

[white relic]

so they buffing an unused talent?

[earnest canyon]

right but you have to give it sparks or no craft

[olive wraith]

Tbd. Slayer looks to be in a scary spot

Thane was untouched

[white grove]

I wonder if the rend change will work for thane

[olive wraith]

Huh

[random shadow]

You have to craft the other item..

[wicked scarab]

You need to select a blue item. I don’t see one for swords, but there’s an axe

[random shadow]

Not the main one that requires the sparks

[olive wraith]

Thane already applies passively

[white grove]

Imp WW now applies rend if you have it talented, so I wonder if the same will be true for thane tclap

[olive wraith]

Bruh

[white grove]

Oh yeah

[random shadow]

Clap already does it

[young swan]

depends what content ur talking about

raid will be pretty unpleasant for warrior

as it stands

m+ will be fine, just like it always is

[dense elbow]

No bosses with addspawns to pad on?

[robust onyx]

Isn't raid going to be cool for fury as there are many ads on almost every boss?

[random shadow]

I was kinda looking foward to coming back to the warrior for raid shame

[dense elbow]

Hey - if so, maybe they will buff OF

[random shadow]

Keys i enjoy more anyways so is fine

[spare steppe]

why unpleasant?

[young swan]

we're one of the worse melee and with brew and bear sort of on the block to get nerfed, prot is the next best tank

[white relic]

what raid. my raid is a bench

[young swan]

it doesnt matter, prot is looking good and brew and bear are looking nerfable

other melee look better

[robust onyx]

i'm glad i'm the only one warr in group

[young swan]

even if unholy gets nerfed, what are the odds its enough

they're 50% ahead of the pack

[dense elbow]

They might have the DPS on their side, but I have the power of hopium and copium

[earnest canyon]

hmmm...so not all classes have it?

[random shadow]

What are you trying to craft

[hybrid yew]

At least we’re doing better than Ret paladins, right?

[random shadow]

They'll get buffed on the 17th as usal

More pally players then warriors

[olive wraith]

If player base was an indications then warriors would be close to top all the time

[spare steppe]

warrior is pretty popular but all good points

[random shadow]

Isnt ret pally one of the most played

[spare steppe]

i feel like guardian will get dumpstered but i dont see brm getting hit too hard

[dense elbow]

I dont want to see teddies going into the trashcan, let em bask in the limelight

[wicked scarab]

Eh, the only time I hear people talk about how broken Ret is, is in PvP. Never PvE

[spare steppe]

nope druids cant have nice things unless its resto

[dense elbow]

I only agree cause:
2v2 - Resto / Surv
... *I just want to play the game damn it! *

[olive wraith]

It is. But fury is like top 5

[random shadow]

Guys we just need to shut down our discord and complain

[alpine haven]

Its a pretty 'noob stomping' spec

[full bison]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/762808801425358858.gif?size=44

[alpine haven]

Though it was absolutely sick in S3 of TWW

[olive wraith]

I can’t remember the last time ret was meta or super close to it

[median agate]

So we're doomin? where on the cycle are we

[random shadow]

Maybe we will be on thr 17th

[timid fractal]

idk i left for a cpl hours, came back started reading and feeling like cancling my sub

discord bad for mental health, just log in and slam dam with details turned off

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/can-we-tempt-you-can-i-tempt-you-tempt-cat-cat-gif-cat-gif-15432872057513694522

@sullen dove @dapper goblet

[dense elbow]

"we will get buffed soon, it is coming, they will fix all my issues with the spec, they are doing the ground work for it!"

Part

[median agate]

thats the cope i love to hear

+1

[earnest canyon]

A bow on my huntard....or a gun. I was lucky with wep drops on warr and mage, but not hunter

[random shadow]

Should be able to. Not sure

[delicate crown]

Guys, I am new to Fury and I wanted to ask regarding the Rend ability. I couldn't see it anywhere mentioned, do I never use rend in my rotation now?

[frank dawn]

Has blizzard reversed this dog shit reap idea yet

[turbid bay]

The changes announced are still awhile away yeh?

15% chance on reap sounds pretty bad

[olive wraith]

Which hero tree

[delicate crown]

I am currently with the mountain thane, but I am asking for slayer as well

[olive wraith]

Thane doesn’t press it

Slayer does

[delicate crown]

Is it only for single target?

[olive wraith]

No

[delicate crown]

Like pure single target raid build

[random shadow]

More so for aoe

[delicate crown]

Ah, so whirlwind then rend?

[olive wraith]

Rend is an aoe ability

Check the wowhead prio

It’s more of a filler spell

[delicate crown]

ah okay, i see

so basically on slayer -> you use rend but not clap

on thane -> you don't use rend but use clap

[lofty lotus]

fellas how do we feel about the slayer changes

[olive wraith]

More or less

[olive wraith]

Bad

[lofty lotus]

same

i went and did 3 mins testing on both servers

left is test right is live

RTS is non existant with the standard rotation

[tardy matrix]

Ahahahahahahaha haha hashahahahaha

[lofty lotus]

and i just fell inlove with slayer man...

[tardy matrix]

I'M NOT CRYING YOU ARE

[lofty lotus]

so much fun

killed

[olive wraith]

Tbf we still have to receive the tuning for the 17th

But the gameplay choices were dumb

[lofty lotus]

i really dont care

wont fix that execute isnt as satifying as before to press

even if WW gaves us 1 billion dps its not fun

i just hope they will revert it

or change their mind or something

[olive wraith]

I’m expecting RR buff

And rb buff

[crystal summit]

They prob have balance changes coming Tuesday ya? They said they would do another patch before season starts didn't they

[lofty lotus]

i leveld 8 classes to 80+ and 3 to 90

and fury was the only fun one

[tardy matrix]

Can we pull a paladin and close discord til blizzard stops fucking us dry

[olive wraith]

Thane was untouched as well

[lofty lotus]

if they kill it
whats there left to play?

[lofty lotus]

but its not as fun

[random shadow]

Not wow

[lofty lotus]

thane is just spamming thunder clap

well not really

but

[olive wraith]

To each their own

[vague tinsel]

Imagine they nerf thane on the 17th that would be just....

[lofty lotus]

pull a paladin?

[tardy matrix]

Idk someone said paladin guys closed discord in protest and got their way earlier

It sounded like something they'd do so

[olive wraith]

Their discord closing had no effect

[lofty lotus]

doubt it will work a second time

[random shadow]

Pallies complained about some nerfs or dome shit then instaly they got a 5% buff

Appetently shamans did something similar a while back or something

[tardy matrix]

ITS OUR TURN

I don't even want buffs

Get rid of this dog shit in .5

And I can happily ungabunga away

[olive wraith]

Again. The complaints don’t get buffs

[lofty lotus]

yeah im fine with no buffs

[random shadow]

Ima just ignore .5 till 2 months later when it finally come sout

[lofty lotus]

just remove that shit

[lofty lotus]

heh my time expires in 2 months

i might just not play after

[random shadow]

If not having fun dont have to play

[lofty lotus]

100%

[tardy matrix]

I'm going to be putting more effort into my 2nd brainless class so when .5 eventually comes I can drop war OR if blizz comes to their senses my beautiful slayer won't be giga behind

[lofty lotus]

sad only i spend the money on the expo

changes like these should be done in beta man

not this late

[random shadow]

I mean this happens every season and expo

How is this surprising tho

[vague tinsel]

Playing the beta is useless at this point. They never listen to feedback.

[lofty lotus]

i dont play wow that much nowdays

last time was in legion ;d

[random shadow]

I mean i stopped before legion and was more or less same

Then again it was ages ago

[tardy matrix]

Because this is killing the identity of a hero tree and basically copy/pasting them

[waxen vale]

ye I unsubbed - fed up. but I have a year of gametime so LOL.

[tardy matrix]

Fury Warrior will be choose between clap spam or ww spam

Feels bad

[lofty lotus]

this is why i switched to slayer

all online guides saying thane is better and i went with it

but then it got boring

then i tried slayer and its soooooo much fun

ill have my fun till 0.5 and then we will see

[olive wraith]

They made the apex not cringe

[lofty lotus]

what was it before

[olive wraith]

Bad

[random shadow]

Idk i just dont think theres much one can change to a class like warrior

We've had the same type of gameplay for a while no?

With rampage and bt and such

[lofty lotus]

they can just not make it so one unfun ability is our main ability

[olive wraith]

Word of advice. Wait for 17th notes to come before going fool doom

[random shadow]

Which one? Cause its mostly gonna alaays be 1 or 2 of our generator abilities and occasional rampage is gonna be our main ability

[lofty lotus]

WW

WW is just not fun to spam

thunder clap was more fun when i started in midnight but it got boring fast

[random shadow]

Make a stance we toggle just for aoe. Remove whirlwind ezpz

[olive wraith]

I’m curious how you would have felt about tww s3

[lofty lotus]

dunno didnt play

[random shadow]

The joy of raging blow spam

[olive wraith]

Twas boring for me

[lofty lotus]

there are other classes to play
but the thing is ive triest most in midnight and none are that fun
frost mage is but they also got hit hard

[tardy matrix]

Huntards are fun

And require similar brain power

[lofty lotus]

i tried them

didnt like em

[random shadow]

Not sure gameplay but frost mage is rather good rn

[lofty lotus]

i dont look at numbers

i just care if its fun

[olive wraith]

Then just play slayer

And don’t ww spam

[lofty lotus]

i tried demo lock and i cringed at how boring it is

[olive wraith]

What makes slayer fun for you

[tardy matrix]

Sure you can do that now but when .5 hits you're cooked

[lofty lotus]

but its not satisfying as before!!!
i know what we have atm and how it play
it wont be the same and that will ruin it

[olive wraith]

Dude said he doesn’t look at damage

[olive wraith]

What makes it satisfying rn

[lofty lotus]

the fast pace
reck + bladestorm
the execute procs reducing the cd + reap visual

the sound of reap procing

[random shadow]

Honestly I get what you mean. But cant imagine thinking warrior is fun gameplay wise tho

[olive wraith]

The only difference is less reaps

[lofty lotus]

yeah

which is massive

[olive wraith]

If that minor change is too much idk what to tell you man

[lofty lotus]

minor for you

not for me

different people

[random shadow]

I do wonder how tww s3 would've been for you lol

[olive wraith]

Minor in the grand scheme

[random shadow]

With rb spam

[olive wraith]

Damage breakdowns change all the time

[lofty lotus]

#fury message

simply i would not have played fury and tried to find a different class

the thing is ive tried most classes in midnight and fury is the only one left

thats why im a bit hyper about it

[random shadow]

Maybe wow is just becoming less fun for you

Maybe time to take a break

[lofty lotus]

... i just started?

havent played since legion

havent played seriusly i mean
i tried bfa shadowland and dragonflight

didnt last even a month into them

[hasty grail]

yeah idk if wow is your game ngl lmao

if you've quit that many times almost immediately

[wise wren]

you could just go play classic

[lofty lotus]

coming to that conclusion is wild

[lofty lotus]

or i could not? thats not fun anymore

[olive wraith]

Really doubt classic would do it

[wise wren]

Buddy idk what else to recommend if you are literally saying you dont like the game and complaining about playing the game at the same time

[random shadow]

[frank vault]

Coming to the conclusion you don't like WoW because you quit a month into every expansion isn't wild. 😂

[lofty lotus]

but played the whole of legion

[random shadow]

We sure you even gonna make it to 0.5 pstch?

[lofty lotus]

just need a good expo to have fun no?

[wise wren]

That was literally 10 years ago

[lofty lotus]

i mean bfa and shado werent really one of the greatest

[young swan]

there were a lot of parts of legion that were really bad tho

[lofty lotus]

dragonflight i didnt like the theme

[olive wraith]

I liked DF overall

[wise wren]

You are saying you havent liked WoW in 10 years and dont like it now but the problem is not that you dont like wow?

[frank vault]

I mean, I personally like the base game and even played through most of Shadowlands. 🤷‍♂️ If you're not having fun, don't play. It's a game, after all.

[lofty lotus]

i never said i dont like it now

[young swan]

im thinking all of u are misunderstanding