#fury

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smoky vale
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@eternal sundial bro sts 2 multiplayer is peak

eternal sundial
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it truyl is

smoky vale
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yesterday i did

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one two punch whirlwind

gusty cloak
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does this breakdown look okay for keys?

smoky vale
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with a shitload of strength and 2 people giving me 4 and 8 energy

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so i would cast ww with 10 hits on avg

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and do

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unironically

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2k

blissful hound
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After the profession exploit? We will see

south kayak
smoky vale
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with full setup and just oneshot

undone flower
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@coarse nest axe>mace

south kayak
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Gnome

spare steppe
south kayak
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Ew

gusty cloak
spare steppe
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I know just messing

coarse nest
spare steppe
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I love mt

gusty cloak
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i struggle with the CDR trying to get my bladestorm back though, last time in s3 i felt like we got more CDR

south kayak
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Yeah, CDR is a little worse

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That's intended

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They nerfed it

spare steppe
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We also had a lot more reaps

gusty cloak
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no fun havin blizzard

south kayak
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It's already doing a lot of damage

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Maybe some CDR would be nice but BS is strong af

undone flower
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22k craft deadge

mellow beacon
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guys were we trade weekly quest ring/neck ?

coarse nest
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That is a multi week quest chain that requires PvP activity

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Hard pass

low folio
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did that dumb training ground quest and found out now that its like a 4 week quest chain. kind of a bad way to do it. its not interesting or cool

random shadow
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Ez pz

sly tapir
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By the time the hero item is available you can just grind m+

mellow beacon
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what u mean? we dont get it this week??

random shadow
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Also true

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It has 200 mastery tho

low folio
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time gated quest chains like this one are just horrible ideas

dusky moon
mellow beacon
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wtf, quest said u get item to chose ring/neck where u saw multi week thing

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finished quest got only dumb pvp trinket

random shadow
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It says at the end of questing

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When you hover over it

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And theres also a wowhead post about it

smoky nacelle
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read

random shadow
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Clearly not

smoky nacelle
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scan?

mellow beacon
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read waht i completed it XD can u post wowhead link

random shadow
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I question some warrior players man

dusky moon
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Some

low folio
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its definitely a 4 week questchain, its dumb it exists but it is true

smoky nacelle
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warriors are truly special

coarse nest
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“To Long Didn’t Read”

mellow beacon
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not warrior issue my whole boomer guild was excited doing bgs for that hahah

dusky moon
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I play with @forest swallow @coarse nest and @unborn delta

coarse nest
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All Larias pings

random shadow
random shadow
mellow beacon
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yeh XD

dusky moon
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Wait

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No

random shadow
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Should be able to read by now

smoky nacelle
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Xennial! born in 85

dusky moon
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This is not an ageism thing

covert blaze
dusky moon
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I will not be slurred along with these warriors

coarse nest
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You’re going to have to use a lower education word

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Ageism is above k5

dusky moon
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:Larias:

south kayak
coarse nest
random shadow
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Its ok I expect warriors to not be able to read

spare steppe
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Even if it’s painfully true

supple sinew
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are we supposed to enchant both weapons or does it only work on one two hander?

dusky moon
coarse nest
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It do be quality

supple sinew
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well im holding them for crafted next week + free upgraded offhand

coarse nest
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Smort

unborn delta
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old codger ahead

coarse nest
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Legends of yore

covert blaze
unborn delta
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These are the roots of our world. Men are props on the stage of life, and no matter how tender, how exquisite... A lie will remain a lie... Young Hollow, knowing this, do you still desire peace?

frank crystal
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We got any idea about the hotfix that’s coming ? Any idea about a nerf or a buff ?

hollow leaf
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🔮

young swan
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🔮

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we'll prob get some preemptive notes tomorrow/friday/monday

stiff maple
echo rapids
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Wouldn’t be surprised if fury doesn’t get anything

cold nexus
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Not going to lie, I’m getting my arse handed to me by 2 good friends (frost mage and dev dh) but I’m changing from lock to warrior so not sure if that’s just early gear levels or my own fault as I get used to changing main

unborn delta
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I have it on good authority from an insider at blizzard that they are going to give fury cleave and take away bladestorm

unborn delta
golden linden
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Im using the Mountain thane multi target build, I have no defensives lmao - I feel a bit weak - am I right in thinking so?

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And yes, I'm using IV and pots

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and I am dwarf, so stoneform is being used too

limpid tide
smoky vale
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impending victory

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?

golden linden
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Oh, I'm in beserker stance lmao

limpid tide
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yea gotta d stance macro

golden linden
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and yes I'm using IV (Impending)

smoky vale
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thats 3 walls

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gl

golden linden
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I'm getting nuked in Warmode, but that might be a skill issue

smoky vale
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probably a vers issue

limpid tide
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lotta people in warmode pvp have pvp gear

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like 400k health

golden linden
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oh, I got 271k health

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holy damn

blissful hound
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PvP gear is super easy to get yup

golden linden
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Do I just play pvp?

blissful hound
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Voidstorm has world quests with pvp items with a set bonus

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They appear like 3-4 times a day or so

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And if you then also get both trinkets with honor youre easily running around with >400k hp

high echo
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i wish odyns fury gave whirlwind stacks

livid arch
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Yea, with PvP gear you should be at 400k+ hp. (That’s where I’m at)

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Also, I’d recommend slayer build for PvP

lean wasp
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which build is meta for fury now in M0 ?

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i tried thane and its meh

winter shoal
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The content isn't hard enough for spec balance to be relevant, just play whichever you prefer

placid palm
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Gameplay looks like it hasn't changed much at all.

cinder shale
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I think warrior, fury and prot pretty much feel the exact same so if that’s all you’re playing it much has changed. From my perspective anyways

winter shoal
floral belfry
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whats the first craft guys

echo rapids
light tapir
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Weap

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2 handy

void rose
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2 hand is next week?

rare garnet
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Nah craft 2x1h

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As frost DK Kek

strong monolith
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wtf is defensive stance

floral belfry
void rose
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Can u add vet crest to spark craft? Thought it was only hero/myth crest

olive wraith
strong monolith
astral folio
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Maybe it is me but even at 250 thane, i cant keep up with a dk on aoe…

rare garnet
olive wraith
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Should just go in raw no mitigation

strong monolith
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I dont think ever since fury got it back, I've used it keks

olive wraith
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Well you don’t stay in dstance

marble pilot
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Its really strong. I use it sometimes. But not too often

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Great for big nukes you know are coming. Or for standing in things you couldnt get away with otherwise. Dstance+uptime>berserker stance but losing uptime.

olive wraith
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Plus no real cooldown

vital idol
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Plan is still to craft the spore bracers and cloak right?

marble pilot
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Im probably just saving till I can craft a gilded crest 2h weapon. But I am not a top 100 gamer.

winter condor
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Im gonna be a weapon gamer because theyre gonna adjust tuning with embelishments for the first month probs

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Cant go wrong with a fat weapon and upgrading ur offhand for free

olive wraith
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Just loot a myth wep

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Easy

marble pilot
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What about second myth weapon

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Also I dont wanna count on my week one vault for that. I wont be doing mythic raid bosses often.

winter condor
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Can upgrade myth weapon to 3 below max with crafted

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So much VALUE

olive wraith
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It’s 50/50

marble pilot
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Fair

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And I cant get 2 weapons from one vault. Still crafting

olive wraith
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Just loot a 2nd wep week 2

marble pilot
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Sounds like I just need to full clear myth raids week 1. Solves a lot of gearing issues

echo rapids
olive wraith
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Ya just loot full myth with your raid splits

marble pilot
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I think I hit 234 yesterday. Still got like 3 pieces that are not veteran

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Ive gotten like 5 chests and 4 weapons from m0. Nothing else drops

sullen dove
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you can be like almost 242 without having spent any vets but even spending all of them 300 is only 15 upgrades which is like +3-4 avg ilvl

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at most its possible to be like 245-246ish

meager star
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Ive gotten 7 trinkets and 2 chests

marble pilot
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0 trinkets for me

sullen dove
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but thats also like an egregious use of crests to have done so anyway

turbid gate
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is it worth to craft 2h weap at the start or is it better to go cloak wrists

sullen dove
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usually weap but may have more laid out plan some time next week

marble pilot
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Itll probably depend on if embellishments get changed. Personally id wait till the 17th patch notes.

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And Archi has always posted a crafting guide once it becomes relevant iirc

smoky vale
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swordish i finished one of the reps

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W

sullen dove
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cool

smoky vale
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wha you goonin to

coarse nest
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Something weeb surely

west parcel
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#buffwarrior

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Shut the server down

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Push blizzard in the right direction

vague copper
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Are ppl runing slayer or MT atm?

random shadow
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Which ever you prefer

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MT is stronger slightly in aoe tho

wooden lagoon
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I mean clearly dps warrior needs buffs were so low they arnt even showing up on the sim chart

vague copper
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It seems like some ppl blast with slayer atm

random shadow
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Feels good clapping in 6+ mobs tho

vague copper
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But I do like the MT build more

random shadow
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Just play what you like

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I think slayer needs more haste to feel good imo

winter shoal
wooden lagoon
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Was gonna say it's so hard to know with just m0 out.

random shadow
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Im not understanding slayer burst. Folks say its more then MT but from where. BS doesn't seem that more bursty then thane on bigger packs

wooden lagoon
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But I've found higher numbers with slayer

random shadow
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Like charge ramp thunder clap or blast hits like a truck

winter shoal
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If the pack only lives 10 seconds, slayer will look bettee

sullen dove
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feel like 3 thunderblasts/clap as thane already clears a bladestorm

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that button is some ass

west parcel
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How accurate is this?

sly tapir
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Sims flatten damage niches out of the equation so there is inherent bias in the sim structure

fallen sorrel
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100% aura buff to arms just to match dk Arms

sly tapir
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But warrior is shit give it a buff

winter shoal
# west parcel

Looks correct to me at a glance for dps warriors, not sure about anything else

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That's with the updated APLs and trinket nerf

sullen dove
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fury is like 96k or something no

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or gg

rare garnet
winter shoal
sullen dove
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yo what happened to spriest man

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at least arms can swap to fury

sly tapir
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Fury is the best passive cleave dps in the game, so if there is a demand for passive cleave then they are the best

rare garnet
winter shoal
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No

sullen dove
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def no lul

winter shoal
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Arcane

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Survival hunter maybe

peak ivy
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Hey there, does anyone has an idea of how the fury MT rotation should look like? I feel I've been getting good results for what you are saying here, but still want to double check

winter shoal
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Spriest

sly tapir
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They are cd based cleave

winter shoal
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Warlocks

sullen dove
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even dev seems kinda op now

smoky nacelle
sullen dove
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perma 5target

winter shoal
peak ivy
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alright, thanks 😉

smoky nacelle
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in other words..don't craft shit till you do all of the above

sullen dove
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o m0 daily tf

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op no

smoky nacelle
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craft to fill

sullen dove
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is that also buffed ilvl or no

smoky nacelle
sullen dove
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thought it was 246

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even better tho if so

smoky nacelle
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shit i could be wrong 246 or 250

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better than preseason M0

sullen dove
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figured itd just be lowest tier champ but idk

smoky nacelle
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from icyveins mind you

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don't go crafting just yet boys

fallow axle
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my question was about crafting lol. not sure i understand laria guide in regards of that. Are we not crafting anything yet ? what is the downside of crafting with veteran crest lower ilvl piece before raid week

wild plank
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do we enchant different enchants our weaps, or same enchant on both weaps?

smoky nacelle
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you craft to fill what you end up missing or not getting week 1 season 1

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to maximize chances of upgrading every slot

fallow axle
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i understand thanks!

smoky nacelle
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Some warriors want that 259 spark weapon or insta gear so bad they will craft it right after reset...imo that is a complete waste of sparks

echo rapids
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It doesn’t waste the sparks

echo rapids
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You can recraft it later to myth

smoky nacelle
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bruh we're talking about next week

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not 3 weeks from now

echo rapids
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I mean who gives a shit for the m0 time

smoky nacelle
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he asked what to craft or not to craft next week

floral belfry
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yeah we will raid immediately wednesday evening so might as well vet up before recrafting

smoky nacelle
echo rapids
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I don’t think it’s a big deal either way

smoky nacelle
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for those mid maxxing..yes

livid arch
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Question, it might because im on mobile and cant see it, but on wowhead guide is there the typical best gear from m+ dungeons?

humble lark
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About how strong is our tier set ? 3-4 %

smoky nacelle
echo rapids
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Our tier is pretty mediocre

livid arch
olive wraith
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Yes

echo rapids
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Really feels like it should be heroic raids this week, not a fan of this extra long pre season

smoky vale
smoky nacelle
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Blizz trying really hard not to give people FOMO

smoky vale
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@waxen vigil @sullen dove

oak peak
smoky vale
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god so fat

smoky nacelle
echo rapids
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Champ gear too

smoky nacelle
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Mhm

oak peak
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Yeah no kidding.

echo rapids
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Which will then immediately be replaced by m+ hero

fossil hull
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the pinned dps faq still shows season 4 builds

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i used one of icy veins for m+ it has no aoe other than bladestorm

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any update slayer builds ?

winter shoal
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Check wowhead

hoary galleon
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Does execute do anything except hit like a wet nooddle? I just dont see it. What am I missing?

echo rapids
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Aoe whirls

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For thane it’s pretty low on the priority

fossil hull
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i doubt it matters since we will be wet noodles anyway and they will probaglby priotize raid and not touch anything itll worlds race is over

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so we will be in dog shit terrority for forseeable future

spare steppe
echo rapids
livid arch
fossil hull
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yeah i got from icy viens i forgot that was messed

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wowhead is banned in my country so have to use vpn

livid arch
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lol HUH?

fossil hull
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yeah apprently not enough revenue from coutnries like india for wow head so they just blocked it

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its from wow heads side not us

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rotation for salyer is same just replace TC with WW and priortise raging blow over BT right ?

smoky vale
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no

livid arch
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No, prio bt over rb

fossil hull
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thanks

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damn we have to keep up rend what a pain

coarse nest
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Curious, wouldn’t line 6 outside of cooldowns be redundant because you only really want to rampage to maintain enrage or prevent overcapping rage (100+)

rigid chasm
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you don't have to keep it up, you just press it sometimes

sullen dove
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its like if you press all the previous buttons and youre at 80ish rage exactly and every other button after is bad pmuch u just hit rampage then

fossil hull
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i guess i was missing rent now dps on dummies aoe is closer gessing its much better on single target

coarse nest
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You’ll have a high uptime on rend without thought because you filler with that over raging blow

sullen dove
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like you only hit wrecking/rend if you cant hit ramp at all and any of the other buttons

livid arch
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lol pressing anything you can other than raging blow

coarse nest
fossil hull
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nothing auto applies the rend in slayer right

sullen dove
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naw

tardy matrix
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Slayer go brrr

coarse nest
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So we basically try to avoid pressing
Wt rend rb and ww altogether

serene oar
coarse nest
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I’m surprised those fillers are so bad we don’t pool rage

fossil hull
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without*

coarse nest
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You hope you proc a sudden death

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And then it’ll reap

fossil hull
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rend is also needed for bleed dps

livid arch
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He means using ww has filler

serene oar
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nvm execute mioght be deep wounds

coarse nest
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That screenshot I’m discussing is not a priority for aoe

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Aoe priorty has maintaining meatcleaver near the top

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Surely

livid arch
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It does

fossil hull
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might as well play thane

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not it makes any difference since all warrior specs re doing limp dick dps anyway

livid arch
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Fury warrior is great atm.

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It’s just all melee are getting destroyed by range classes

fossil hull
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yes great after every swingle dps spec in game is done with their primary specs

livid arch
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That’s just a feature of wow

coarse nest
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I’m hitting 150-200k on omega M0 pulls bro

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Should nerf really

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To much warrior stronk

marble pilot
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Highest ive seen is around 240k. But Ive seen others go higher

lavish sierra
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i just did den or whatever and I ended at like 55 🙁

heady flume
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GUys what is the best for M+ Now? Slayer or Thane?

lavish sierra
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weird pulls I g uess

marble pilot
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Seen a prot pally hit 300k.

brittle mauve
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was slayer the popular m+ hero talent last season? If so, what are the expectations for this upcoming season or too early to tell?

livid arch
lavish sierra
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oh thank god

livid arch
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lol

fossil hull
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if u are top dps as a warrior in m0 right now as a wrrior

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u are running with some baddies for sure.

lavish sierra
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i've seen enhancement go off

fossil hull
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locks and dk's are insane also

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mages as always are good

livid arch
lavish sierra
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clap - thing - clap - thing though as thane is effective but really god damn boring

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feels like a crappy line dance

fossil hull
lavish sierra
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DK counts as melee but UH DK is like a weird mix of ranged and dot

livid arch
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Dk is ranged now sir

echo rapids
lavish sierra
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like at least ranged classes have to like balance movement and casting

echo rapids
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Eve tankier than we are, with arguably better mobility if they can play rider

livid arch
lavish sierra
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no

livid arch
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60% of the bosses health I’m just running and gunning like a hunter

lavish sierra
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i like elemental shaman because they have an ability that just lets them blast

livid arch
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The fact that earthquake requires your tank to sit still is a turnoff for me

wicked scarab
fossil hull
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i play with a bunch of friends and we are all most close to what ever our sims are so its a good benchmark

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currently just gettign demolished in dps they could do 1 buttont rotation

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adn still out dps wars in m0

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everyones been playing same classes for donkeys years anyway

livid arch
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Are they playing ranged dps?

fossil hull
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its a mix paladin mage, dh, mainly

gusty cloak
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what race is dope/best, ive been orc my whole life and am tired of it

lavish sierra
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dragon

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ignore all knockbacks

timber hare
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Ive been keeping up with the udk in my group 😮

livid arch
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You should be beating the pally and havoc dh (if they are havoc)

lavish sierra
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and charge back in fast

wicked scarab
rare garnet
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Panda is cool

echo rapids
livid arch
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Lmao

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You might be great at warrior, the udk on the other hand.

astral folio
hard widget
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ngl

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Fury feels kinda lame

timber hare
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How do survival hunters compare atm cause also keeping up with him aswell

gray plume
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how much dps u guys hitting on training dummys?

timber hare
gray plume
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cant tell if im doing rotation wrong or warrior smol

echo rapids
livid arch
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I never use training dummy, because half our problem is just uptime and learn pulls and boss fights really well

gray plume
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yeah im just curious more so

livid arch
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70%*

gray plume
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im also hitting 30k

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thats with slayer single target, should i just run slayer overall? like ill never hit higher than my guildies with thane but least i can help more with boss fights in mythics

echo rapids
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I’m just running slayer too

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Aoe is still fine and single target feels better

gray plume
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the rotation list confuse me. I see some say never hit RB but i feel like theres alot of downtime where if i dont hit it im just standing there

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same with WW

echo rapids
gray plume
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so when all the juice is down just throw it in there

livid arch
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Yea, im going from memory of last night. But in trash pulls, im using rb finally when I have like 25ish seconds left on my reck cd

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I pretty regularly pop CDs as soon as they are up right now

gray plume
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should i full send bladestorm if reck isnt up unless reck is up in like 10 secs

livid arch
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I’d assume wait till you have reck. I don’t player slayer. I’m gonna try it out tonight

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I’ve only played thane mostly

gray plume
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gotcha thanks for the insight guys! sorry new to the class, trying to learn the ins and outs lol

coarse nest
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As thane during reck I don’t think I hit crushing blow once (just off memory)

wicked scarab
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I think you hold bladestorm if you have 40 seconds or less left on Reck

coarse nest
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In aoe pulls anyway

livid arch
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Yea, same.

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I’m on mobile and I really haven’t gone digging at all, but what talent or w/e lets us hit BT multiple times without a cd

rustic smelt
gray plume
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this is how i feel during big pulls while my guildies are hitting 200k+

coarse nest
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Hidden Warrior discord

rustic smelt
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SURELY THIS ISN'T--and it was

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hahahahaha

coarse nest
livid arch
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Where do you find the chart with how classes are specifically simming right now?

coarse nest
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That’s Ulria’s Den discord I believe

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Paywall

muted marlin
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do you guys hold your crests?

gray plume
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just holding vet crests

undone flower
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Yes - adventurer

livid arch
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I got a vet weapon so I went all in on that. Lol so I now have 2 250 weps

coarse nest
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Efficiency wise crafting two vet pieces for embellishes and then upgrading 240 vet pieces with the rest is the play

sullen dove
undone flower
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I can’t I have the harbringer achiev on them

sullen dove
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Then what u sayin u holding em for

undone flower
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I hold crests - adventurers

sullen dove
undone flower
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Chest L

livid arch
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That mog is elite

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Where is the hat from?

undone flower
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Dornogal

tardy matrix
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So if we're stuck on 237 weapons we just send it on weapon craft no?

warm crag
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why would that be a factor

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can just get a hc weapon from m+ on season start

tardy matrix
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I'm not really feeling all that great about raiding on 237 weapons lol

undone flower
tardy matrix
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M+ isn't until 24th so it doesn't factor into the equation for first raid week

livid arch
undone flower
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And the hat look really good on taurens

edgy oasis
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anyone got the cancel ww aura macro?

coarse nest
rare garnet
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Not that you would take RR

warm crag
rare garnet
covert blaze
coarse nest
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Day one myth weapon craft Tuesday night parse rank 1 gaming

tardy matrix
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🤷

coarse nest
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Guys applying to liquid at 11:01pm right after raid ends

covert blaze
rare garnet
tardy matrix
covert blaze
tardy matrix
echo rapids
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If you can reliably show up to raid you can get into a mythic guild

covert blaze
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ok no harm done if you int your crests to parse heroic ig

jolly dragon
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good afternoon was wanting to make sure i got this correct

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#showtooltip
/cast Recklessness
/cast Berserking(Racial)

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or change the order?

warm crag
#

whether you will be joining a guild where that matters is your deal

tardy matrix
tardy matrix
coarse nest
#

You just have to accept that you might have to play a tier without getting CE just to gain some experience

tardy matrix
#

I mean I'm not aiming for CE - I come from other MMOs where I'm used to their version of mythic raiding so just want to get back to that environment asap

modest condor
#

ok so someone who is new this expac is obviously not gonna join a guild "worth their weight" in the first tier unless they are extreme exceptional and jump multiple times in the first tier

warm crag
#

even then you should just not craft hc week

modest condor
#

but also nobody is gonna look at day 1 parses for your application

coarse nest
#

Good shot at getting invited to a team scraping the barrel during race for world last CE

tardy matrix
#

I don't think I'm good enough for CE guilds even at my best tbh lol

jolly dragon
#

look in LFG recruiting maybe you find a fit

coarse nest
#

CE isn’t all it’s made out to be

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Just be reliable and do like blue parse damage

covert blaze
#

you can parse well on heroic without hindering your near future gearing progress for a very small inmediate future small gain

coarse nest
#

That’s world 2000 CE all day long

covert blaze
#

but you do you

tardy matrix
#

Is CE not top 100? I thought that was what I read

echo rapids
tardy matrix
#

Oh wait no that's Hall of fame

modest condor
#

being reliable and blue parsing can get you in a top 500 guild

coarse nest
#

No that’s more like hall of fame

#

Ye exactly what Silm said

covert blaze
#

isnt hall of fame like 350 guilds nowadays

modest condor
#

people who dont raid really overthink how good you have to be to get CE

covert blaze
#

fake af

lost shoal
#

Does anyone here coach warrior atm?

coarse nest
#

His hurdle will more so be getting onto a team rather than being able to perform well enough to achieve it

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People gate keep hard with zero Mythic raiding back ground

jolly dragon
#

sorry to interupt recklessness before racial in a macro or vice versa?

coarse nest
#

I always put my cd first

jolly dragon
#

ok thanks

echo rapids
#

You can pretty easily get into a non CE myth raid team by mid tier with good heroic logs

dense elbow
covert blaze
#

get decent heroic logs and join a guild that kills a small amount of mythic bosses and go from there probably

echo rapids
#

Yep

coarse nest
echo rapids
#

A lot of CE is the time commitment and reliability

covert blaze
dense elbow
#

Just in case we got stupid ppl, that is the joke

#

o7

modest condor
coarse nest
#

I went from the 4th boss on mythic to the last boss on mythic during abberus simply because the group needed warrior buff and I so happen to apply they took a shot on me we killed the boss and then the following week I got a full clear carry and took that xp with me once that guild disbanded

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Basically my point is start small gain some exp and shoot your shot

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You can get it done

modest condor
#

i am a terrible example because i just got in a guild by having connections (the gm/rl) and getting CE in my first tier keks

coarse nest
#

Of course there’s that expedited option

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It’s not what you know it’s who you know

icy whale
#

i have a 240 crit vers wrist and got a 240 haste mastery wrist, do i keep the upgrade or roll it away?

spare steppe
#

Primary or secondary stat feasts?

icy whale
#

its +200 dps but thats only 0.5%

rare garnet
icy whale
#

the other person has 237 wrist with crit mastery

covert blaze
icy whale
#

do i keep or trade a +200 dps upgrade? (0.5%) for the stranger its 237->240 ilvl

tardy matrix
#

I keep upgrades personally if I'm pugging

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But I'm also hard focused on me me me

livid arch
#

^^^

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If it’s a guildie, I’d give it. Pugging… nah

young swan
oblique pond
coarse nest
#

Ehh I toss people a bone if I already have a 240 piece in that slot but it’s pretty much whatever since M+ invalidates this gear immediately

dense elbow
#

I given away offhand twohander upgrade, so ppl get theirs gladge

#

costs me nothing

coarse nest
#

Good lad 🤝

rare garnet
limpid tide
#

any m0 trinkets that are really good for slayer?

rare garnet
edgy widget
#

talk about padding

rare garnet
#

Someone enchant those 75k unholy sims

#

Let’s see the monster

tardy matrix
#

But that's just going off feel

echo wharf
#

Did fury get any tuning with the weekly reset? I feel way weaker this week than I did last week during my mythic tour and I've gone up almost 15 ilvl and my stat weights are better. I'm doing MT aoe in m0s btw

edgy widget
#

nothing got any tuning with the weekly reset

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no tuning till next week

echo wharf
#

Weirdge. So it's a get gud situation

remote bobcat
coarse nest
#

Surely patch notes for us to dissect before the weekend

edgy widget
#

more like observational bias

coarse nest
river willow
#

M0 experience is wildly different from group to group

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Sneeze and things die

remote bobcat
#

group buffs vs no group buffs

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and

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tank pulls

#

insane range

coarse nest
#

I’ve been saying it forever I stg we have extra threat multiplier some how some way because of Prot

#

It has to be there’s no way you can sneeze on the pack and take threat

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It’s insane

echo wharf
#

Yea most of my runs this week and last were with my friend group so same comp. They also got juiced since last weeks runs so maybe they are doing better than me in comparison

sullen dove
#

does this feel like its nerfed cuz of warriors or something

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theres no chance 27 armor is better than 115 stam defensively right that seems so booty

#

but literally like 2-3 more strength to use that vs stamina think this is actually like worthless

vagrant dagger
#

give it away these items are nonconsequential

hollow leaf
#

m0 was good to me today

marble pilot
#

Gotten like 6 chests and 4 weapons nothing else

lean osprey
#

I swear I earned two sparks in early access but I was capped to 1 so it's gone forever, we should be at 3 no?

sullen dove
#

it looked like it was 1 on the currency tab but yes should have gotten 2 actual items anyway

wise wren
#

Yeah should have 3 now

sullen dove
#

and got a 3rd one this week

fiery meadow
#

yo gents are we crafting weapons this week?

wise wren
#

Next week because it costs 4 sparks

grim prism
#

i upgraded a 2h wep to 240ilvl, was this a mistake?

dense elbow
#

giga

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gotta delete your char now

wise wren
#

I mean probably not since all your gear is going to get replaced the first week of M+ anyways

#

Is Slayer doing better than Mountain Thane for M+ rn?

empty mirage
#

this trinket is the aggro puller

hot shell
dense elbow
#

Prove it

icy whale
#

i really like this combo for thane

empty mirage
#

da full set

icy whale
#

well it is what it is

hot shell
#

Go throne of thunder. Pick up all the armor that has those electric crackling stuff around it. Enjoy being a real thunder thane

icy whale
#

yeah but i dont wanna be obnoxious

empty mirage
slim coral
icy whale
#

week 2, still blue weapons

sullen dove
#

i know you dont have 2 220 rings in week 4 of preseason

#

spend your adventurers tf

slim coral
sullen dove
#

even worldquests drop up to 230

young swan
sullen dove
#

was one in middle of harandar that had one for every single one of my alts

sullen dove
young swan
sullen dove
#

take some bench

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bean binging to be hero x its kinda omega flame

#

idk if u seen

icy whale
#

isnt this tier 15?

hot shell
#

Im not talking about tier sets

#

Im talking about bossdrops

sullen dove
#

the one lei shen helmet thats the only cool item out of there

#

thats about it

dapper goblet
#

wrong

#

typical stupid dumb swordish goober take

#

reply back if i'm right

sullen dove
#

take on vet crest spending xantage

dapper goblet
#

he's a creature for sure

#

wish i could spend my crests

sullen dove
#

better be gajeel ing those day 1 heroic parses

coarse nest
#

Bro is yoked

hot shell
#

End of next week we all run around in 270 armor anyways. Or however much mythic+10 will drop

sullen dove
#

in 2 weeks but yea

hot shell
#

Ah yeh 24th isnt it

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Mb mb

sullen dove
#

next week highest youll get is some 4/6 hero gear but most pieces prolly some amount of champ ilvl

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think very safe to say should easily have 250 every slot next week tho minimum

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if m0s are daily and drop champ gear

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if not then more suske but whatever

hot shell
#

Ill miss the first 3 weeks of the season anyways. Im sure you eill tell me whats good then, lel

sullen dove
#

still 20k lower than a dk

hot shell
#

Dont worry, frend. Itll look even worse in a few days

clever frost
#

[Fearless] bugged doesnt seem to work on any roots ive tried it on

dense elbow
#

Roots and Snares are not impairs, slows are

#

it is just badly WoW formualted text

#

but it works as intended

cerulean kayak
#

raidbots wants me to upgrade ring instead of shoulders lol.

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isnt mainstats better then ring stats?

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and shoulders are haste/mastery our bis, ring is crit mastery

olive wraith
#

Bis are fake

sullen dove
#

i mean your rings going from 233 to 250

#

vs 240 to 250

#

probably didnt add a "rest of your vets on ring after upgrading shoulders"

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which is im assuming like 250 shoulder 240 ring

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regardless prolly not most optimal to dump literally all of your vet crests right now but if youre not doing any serious raiding in the coming weeks then not as big of a deal i guess

cerulean kayak
#

ye i think i will skip the ring for now

#

weapons is a no brainer for me

indigo sigil
#

pretty good slayer u thinks guys ?

dense elbow
#

Sure

indigo sigil
#

i hate thane

cerulean kayak
#

nice

dense elbow
#

I do more than enough DPS as Slayer myself

#

so dont worry about it

restive walrus
#

Do people think fury will get buffs? Arms nerfs are a given

dense elbow
#

yes

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because why not

tardy matrix
spring fog
#

I just miss having bladestorm when I play thane

summer quail
undone flower
coarse nest
#

Gamer spotted

#

Even walife re rolled.. chatting

tacit hill
#

GUYS

#

is there an enchant for wrist or back for this xpac

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or no

#

seems like all of them on AH are from last xpac so leaning toward no

hardy cargo
#

I could be misremembering but I think I remember reading no more cloak boot wrist

#

Instead we get head shoulders

pure rampart
#

whats is the best talent tree right now? for raid and m+

hot shell
#

Slayer and thane

pure rampart
hot shell
#

There is a website called wowhead which has all the best speccs for all situations for all classes and speccs

eternal lance
hot shell
#

Im nice today so here u go

slate cobalt
#

are there any trinkets worth farming next week when m0 is on a daily reset?

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kinda nothing right? Puzzlebox and solarflare wont be available still

dense elbow
#

nah

feral ivy
#

does details work just like before?

warm wharf
#

so you all incredible detail m0 are slayers player?

dense elbow
feral ivy
#

damn.. any addon that shows everyones ilvl in the group without inspecting 1 by 1

dense elbow
#

Method Raid Tools should have it

somber nebula
#

what's the idea behind algeth's puzzle box trinket? since our cds are reduced by rage we use it on cd or always wait to align cds?

warm wharf
#

@hot shell i saw somepople post 60k overall, they are in slayer or mountain?

dense elbow
#

I posted em as Slayer, Thane should be closer to 70k

hot shell
#

Both can do 60k overall

young swan
#

am i insane

#

isnt next week seasonal m0s

wind token
#

i assume so

hot shell
#

Yeah u can run pit next week

sleek quiver
#

Anyone got a good talent build? Im worried about not having Enraged Regen in mythic, which is what icyveins recommends

#

For fury warrior

winter shoal
#

Drop WnF or massacre for it

#

You probably don't really need it if you're diligent about using defensive stance

feral ivy
#

is the prey thing go to ur alt if u never done it?

valid pulsar
#

does anyone know why my sim does not show the trinket buff from the champion trinket we got from the renown the crucible thing

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all the heroic trinkets 20 item level lower sim better than the 246 crucible

winter shoal
#

P sure they nerfed it but also it might be bugged in simc

valid pulsar
#

Has to be bugged yeah

#

because in quick sim its not even showing the buff in buffs

winter shoal
wise wren
#

does this look normal or am I out of order

sullen dove
#

maybe bb a little too high compared to ramp or somethin but not the worst

#

imagine tclap usually the highest tho on many target count

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maybe 5ish it could look more like that

rancid socket
#

If I'm using the M+ mountain than build, do I follow the priority for single target mountain thane on bosses in the dungeon? Or is there a different rotation to follow?

sullen dove
#

ya prolly just st

hybrid yew
#

what's the best way to get some haste rings? spam delves or spam heroic nexus point

gritty frigate
#

yes

hybrid yew
#

actually i guess if i spam delves i'd at least be leveling up valeera...can haste rings drop out of delve rewards?

zinc python
#

If you already have both 250 weapons doesnt it make more sense to craft 2 armor pieces next week instead or is the weapon effect really important?

wraith wharf
#

if you are just crafting a weapon that's the same ilvl or lower than your weapons you can most likely skip it, Save the crests.

gritty frigate
#

on slayer fury is it worth pressing rend?

zinc python
#

Its about a 1% difference if done right according to archi

#

So if you want to skip it you probably can

rare garnet
#

what missing, how upgrading 240 to 250 mainhand is downgrade?

zinc python
#

If you do use rend its towards the bottom of the prio list

proven stream
dry hawk
#

238 I feel like im trash

proven stream
mental nexus
proven stream
#

save to craft mythic crest weap

high lagoon
#

yo what necklace shud i pick

#

the crit hate or vers mas

random shadow
#

I picked haste

rancid socket
#

Is it best to hold odyn's fury to sync with cooldowns or do you just send it when it's up?

high lagoon
#

hold

#

it shoudl always line up

rancid socket
#

got it. thanks!

spare steppe
#

Clarify, not advocating for ER, just defensive being strong enough with stance mastery

winter shoal
#

Yeah dstance is nutty

#

and we're passively very tanky already

high lagoon
#

dstance is rlly good

#

we cant afford er rn

#

too much good choices

sullen dove
#

idk if "good" is the word

high lagoon
thorn vortex
# dry hawk 238 I feel like im trash

omg... I had the exact same feeling in a m0 just now. Was doing my absolute darndest bestest effort and was being absolutely out dps by the tank... Given, i'm 221ilvl and the tank was 236 but stilll... the gap was big 🙁

sullen dove
#

its just able to be dropped for a minor amount of dmg which most of the time u always want to take

#

but it is p insignificant to swap like 1 talent for it if you want it

sullen dove
#

idk whats goin on there for it to not show up at all

#

but yea you should be hitting that much more often

#

in cds pmuch all you do is blast/clap > button > blast/clap > button > clap > x > clap etc

#

most of the time the button is ramp since u have high rage but when its lower u can hit bb but bb not as important on aoe, especially mass aoe with more than like 5-6 targets

dry hawk
#

clap if no stacks or just calp if avail?

high lagoon
#

clap always

#

no matter what

sullen dove
#

clap if avail especially in cds

#

which is every other global during avatar

high lagoon
#

clap - filler - clap -filler -clap filler

sullen dove
#

pretty much on cd regardless even out of cds

high lagoon
#

out of cd ramp - bt - exec - rb prio

rancid socket
#

Do you shift back to single target rotation once you get back down to 2-4 targets and just weave in TC every 5th attack?

high lagoon
#

exe before rampage

dry hawk
#

so my clap>ava/reck>Ramp>ody>ramp>BT is bad?

high lagoon
#

yes

sullen dove
#

yea hit clap like 3 more times in between all that

high lagoon
#

u should ava/reck-> odyn -> clap -> ramp -> clap -> ramp -clap-bt clap ramp clap bt clap ramp clap

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u get it lol

sullen dove
#

but after that if you dont ahve any button and need to hit rb then sure

dry hawk
#

has this change since the last time I saw it?

sullen dove
#

not really

dry hawk
#

I yoinked that off of WH I think

high lagoon
#

looks good

sullen dove
#

maybe no cruelty if anything? but it could be included

#

idr

#

regardless yea just hit clap a lot more

#

not gonna lie tho idk what the unholy in your group was doing anyway

#

both of you under the tank is crazy but him especially

#

op ass class doing 38k

#

unless hes like 200 ilvl

dry hawk
#

that tank was pulling fucking weird and we wiped every other pull

sullen dove
#

ya that may explain some things

#

if he lived longer and got to do more dps or somethin

#

overall just gets wrecked

#

at the very least yea at least showing dmg breakdown very noticable fix

high lagoon
#

u need cruelty

#

ur talents r fine

dry hawk
#

I have both here 🙁

sullen dove
#

i mean like what % of your abilities did dmg

brittle mauve
#

U guys saying to weave clap every other GCD it seems. Is that just the flat DMG from it? I was only pressing it to reset the stacks

sullen dove
#

yea very large flat damage

high lagoon
#

only on aoe

sullen dove
#

also hits uncapped targets

#

for "not uncapped" damage

brittle mauve
#

Aight Ty. Didn't know

sullen dove
#

but big good

high lagoon
#

in st rb > clap

brittle mauve
#

Kk

#

Ty

sullen dove
#

it may lead to you not hitting bb for like 5-10 seconds in aoe which is kind of cringe but you gotta do what you gotta do

#

ramp clap ramp clap ramp clap yep cocka

high lagoon
#

l.ol yupp

#

even if ramp is rdy send a clap

#

but i still have to test this on 4t

#

ramp might be better than clap on 4-5 t

#

idk

brittle mauve
#

Ok interesting

#

My clap gcds are gonna...at least double

high lagoon
#

yes send it

#

always

brittle mauve
#

I was convinced clap only to enable aoe capability for other abilities. Vice damage. I was wrong

high lagoon
#

lmao no

brittle mauve
#

Glad I caught this convo

high lagoon
#

just go watch critcakes video

#

on youtuber

brittle mauve
#

Oh ok

#

Good call

#

Shit I should clarify. This is mountain thane ?

high lagoon
#

Yes

#

for slayer u wanna spam ww too lol

#

ramp - bt - ww

dry hawk
#

is Tblast take higher prio is its ST?

high lagoon
#

they play similar but u weave a bt

#

thunderblast shud be sent in st yes

spare steppe
#

I thought that clap only did that when there was >6 targets?

high lagoon
#

but only thunderblast

spare steppe
#

Otherwise BT/BB is higher prio than just clap i

high lagoon
#

not too sure honestly i havent simmed

#

but i think ramp - clap is better even on 5 target

#

i would only bt if ramp isnt up

#

gonna have to sim

brittle mauve
#

Seems like it's clap on CD lmao

#

I'm reminding that thing

#

Rebinding

bitter palm
#

that casts tc if its known

#

ww if it isnt

#

tc replaces ww so no point in having it on a diff bind

brittle mauve
#

Ya I more so meant to move it a more usable bind

#

Due to me pressing it more now

#

I legit only sent it for blast or to reset stacks. Not for DMG.

#

Gotta move it to a more comfy thumb button

pastel bronze
#

am i reading this right, in cooldowns every second button with 6+ targets is thunderclap?

#

which often just devolves into rampage -> tc -> rampage

dry hawk
bitter palm
#

avatar buffs the shit out of tc/tblast

#

and the damage diff between tblast and tc is nowhere near tww levels

#

tc does absurd damage during avatar

#

its also softcapped

pastel bronze
#

yeah just feels weird, also according to the prio you rarely hit bloodlust to escalate it to tblast since your almost back over 100 rage

#

makes cooldowns with 6+ targets kind of meme-y

#

i get it though, if the delta between tclap and tblast is so minor, then rampage gives us stacking strength buffs which buff both

#

and is probably woth morth then bloodthirst

inland flame
#

all hail rampage, rampage royal flush, the age of rampage

pastel bronze
#

all hail 2 button spec

#

im expecting some major rotational changes to warrior come the balance pass

#

simply because a few number shifts could swing things

#

from raging blow priority, to bloodthirst prio to tclap

#

numbers wise its a really interesting spec to "optimize" because there are so many different interactions between the abilities

bitter palm
#

afaik wowhead rota is simplified at minimal loss. iirc bb>tc when targets are <35% due to vc but 100% there is some weird target count breakpoint where tc>bb again

pastel bronze
#

simply spending more/less rage has macro level implications over a 5min sim

pastel bronze
#

im of the same perspecting with stormbolt during slayer bladestorm and wrecking throw tbh

bitter palm
#

ure maybe gonna do 0.2% more damage at like 7 targets or something but then in the next pack u will miss count by 1 and do 1% less

bitter palm
#

but its basically nothing ye

#

and a bad habit

ionic hamlet
#

are people crafting weapons with their veteran crests? or is there a better option other than just remaining pieces that need to be filled

pastel bronze
brittle mauve
#

Watched critcakes latest vids. I see his rotation for thane . That was helpful.

Do we know what the set raid talent will be? Slayer across the board?

bitter palm
#

afaik there is a lot of cleave so probably thane

rare garnet
brittle mauve
#

Bro

bitter palm
#

yeah but u kinda expect fury to handle the irrelevant cleave when it can do so at very low cost

drowsy ember
#

hi yall, im debating a last minute pivot to fury warrior for midnight. are you all liking fury in here? 😄 im not going to have a consistent tank to do m+ with so furys on demand damage interests me instead of my assass rogue that i currently am on since i wont have reliable pulls to scale damage on.

pastel bronze
#

i meant, when did he post a new fury vid?

brittle mauve
#

What you linked is the latest!

icy whale
#

what do i have to do to craft my 2h weapon with 4 sparks next week? i havent crafted since legion so please explain it like i'm 5 years old

brittle mauve
#

Someone just told me to go watch the last few vids. Which I djd

drowsy ember
#

yeah that sounds kinda nice @bitter palm

#

at least for more unpredictable groups

bitter palm
#

as thane both reck and avatar are on anger management so they are both synced

#

u can just macro them together

bitter palm
#

and as slayer bs is a bit harder to sync since its on its own cdr mechanic

spare steppe
#

Like just good vibes

bitter palm
#

but it usually syncs

rare garnet
drowsy ember
#

ive tried

afflock
unholy DK
assass rogue

but in these m0's its not feelign great so i cant get a good idea of what classes im liking lol

spare steppe
#

Like do you want calm, spammy, flat damage, big CDs damage

#

Mobile. Tanky, can do it all

drowsy ember
#

a melee dps that isnt completely cooldown reliant, with some ondemand damage

#

i might just be hating the fact that every class feels pretty CD reliant atm

brittle mauve
#

Yo how good is fury gonna feel with a ton of haste. Bet it'll be super fun!

spare steppe
#

Outlaw also I feel like isn’t cd dependent as much as like feral, WW, or DK

#

For ranged, destro or frost is gonna be your best bet

rare garnet
drowsy ember
#

awesome. thanks for the help guys im gonna mess around on my warrior!

keen kindle
#

But id say cdr specs arent. Espically outlaw

dry hawk
#

that felt 10x cleaner lol

#

no deaths just fucking hauling ass

odd crater
#

Devouring Banding is the suggested embellishment at this time, right?

wraith wharf
peak pine
#

Do I use bloodthirst over raging blow?

wraith wharf
fiery edge
#

Going back to slayer after playing thane. Guess im cooked sadge

odd crater
#

So this is the end of my gearing for this week, after H Prey and World Tour. I'm thinking I just crest craft shoulders/bracers, and then use rest for upgrading. Am I mistaken in thinking this is fine? If so, what am I missing

fiery edge
#

I didnt even get a vet track weap. Rigged aaaah game

inland flame
#

yea i mean gear isn't super important if you know you have a way into stuff tbh everything gets insta replaced by real season gear

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not to say getting ready is bad but I wouldn't stress too much

wraith wharf
odd crater
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I'm not spark crafting

fiery edge
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Gotta stop fomoing i guess seramore

odd crater
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Just crest crafting

wraith wharf
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oh

odd crater
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Yeah screw it, just gunna craft

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Make monke brain happy

inland flame
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guaranteed tier shoulers in first three boxes

hot chasm
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quick check for slayer ST going into raids next week

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seems like you never press bladestorm outside of recklessness?

wind token
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i assume youd use it on cd but yeah the guide doesnt have it outside cds lol

merry night
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Try to line it up but I’m sure there’s going to be scenarios where you send it without CDs

inland flame
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So what's the catalyst/spark deal this time, back and forth again?

edgy widget
signal jolt
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are m0's a daily reset now?

brittle crow
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no

signal jolt
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oh, thought i saw something about that

brittle crow
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next week

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sorry forgot to actually be helpful

deft palm
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is there a build for Slayer in M+

odd crater
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Well boys, that's where we end the week for gearing. Slayer chads unite 😄

river willow
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holy luck batman

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think I got 3 cloaks and 1 wep from the entire tour

timid fractal
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i just dinged 90 yesterday :3

sullen dove
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crest spender Xeosbear

odd crater
dusky moon
smoky nacelle
dusky moon
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ooh

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i found it

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this is nice

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ty ty

smoky nacelle