#fury
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it truyl is
does this breakdown look okay for keys?
with a shitload of strength and 2 people giving me 4 and 8 energy
so i would cast ww with 10 hits on avg
and do
unironically
2k
After the profession exploit? We will see
How is Odyn's Duet so high without tier set?
with full setup and just oneshot
@coarse nest axe>mace
Gnome
No thunder blast??
Ew
slayer
I know just messing
Oh yeah if that’s midnight crafting mog axe wins aesthetically
I love mt
i struggle with the CDR trying to get my bladestorm back though, last time in s3 i felt like we got more CDR
We also had a lot more reaps
no fun havin blizzard
22k craft 
guys were we trade weekly quest ring/neck ?
did that dumb training ground quest and found out now that its like a 4 week quest chain. kind of a bad way to do it. its not interesting or cool
Judt training grounds it
Ez pz
By the time the hero item is available you can just grind m+
what u mean? we dont get it this week??
time gated quest chains like this one are just horrible ideas
If only there was a guide to tell you not to do it 😔
wtf, quest said u get item to chose ring/neck where u saw multi week thing
finished quest got only dumb pvp trinket
Its a quest line
It says at the end of questing
When you hover over it
And theres also a wowhead post about it
read
Clearly not
scan?
read waht i completed it XD can u post wowhead link
I question some warrior players man
Some
its definitely a 4 week questchain, its dumb it exists but it is true
warriors are truly special
“To Long Didn’t Read”
not warrior issue my whole boomer guild was excited doing bgs for that hahah
I play with @forest swallow @coarse nest and @unborn delta
All Larias pings
Well theres the issue. Yall boomers
yeh XD
Should be able to read by now
Xennial! born in 85
This is not an ageism thing
no
I will not be slurred along with these warriors
:Larias:
Are you still playing
scam! xd

Its ok I expect warriors to not be able to read
This is incredible
Even if it’s painfully true
are we supposed to enchant both weapons or does it only work on one two hander?
I like how high quality it is lol
It do be quality
Both
Save your gold
But both
too late
well im holding them for crafted next week + free upgraded offhand
Smort
Legends of yore
yes sir
and i'm back on this class, partially
These are the roots of our world. Men are props on the stage of life, and no matter how tender, how exquisite... A lie will remain a lie... Young Hollow, knowing this, do you still desire peace?
We got any idea about the hotfix that’s coming ? Any idea about a nerf or a buff ?
🔮
Yea they sent me the patch notes early
Wouldn’t be surprised if fury doesn’t get anything
Not going to lie, I’m getting my arse handed to me by 2 good friends (frost mage and dev dh) but I’m changing from lock to warrior so not sure if that’s just early gear levels or my own fault as I get used to changing main
I have it on good authority from an insider at blizzard that they are going to give fury cleave and take away bladestorm
rn warrior sims at 40kish if you are like 220-240ilvl i think
Nice
Im using the Mountain thane multi target build, I have no defensives lmao - I feel a bit weak - am I right in thinking so?
And yes, I'm using IV and pots
and I am dwarf, so stoneform is being used too
bad time not playing lock... demo lock is going nuclear
Spell reflect, d stance
Oh, I'm in beserker stance lmao
yea gotta d stance macro
and yes I'm using IV (Impending)
I'm getting nuked in Warmode, but that might be a skill issue
probably a vers issue
PvP gear is super easy to get yup
Do I just play pvp?
Voidstorm has world quests with pvp items with a set bonus
They appear like 3-4 times a day or so
And if you then also get both trinkets with honor youre easily running around with >400k hp
i wish odyns fury gave whirlwind stacks
Yea, with PvP gear you should be at 400k+ hp. (That’s where I’m at)
Also, I’d recommend slayer build for PvP
Doesn't really matter, slayer probably a bit better just because of how short the pulls are, but both are fine
The content isn't hard enough for spec balance to be relevant, just play whichever you prefer
Gameplay looks like it hasn't changed much at all.
I think warrior, fury and prot pretty much feel the exact same so if that’s all you’re playing it much has changed. From my perspective anyways
A bit more focus on BT and a bit more rotational variety when you're in vs out of recklessness, but yeah it's very similar to TWW s3 fury
whats the first craft guys
Don’t over think it imo, I’m going 2 hander
2 hand is next week?
wtf is defensive stance
with or without vet crest
Can u add vet crest to spark craft? Thought it was only hero/myth crest
It’s a stance where you are defensive
sir this is the fury channel
Maybe it is me but even at 250 thane, i cant keep up with a dk on aoe…
Yes and it’s our best defensive tool to be used when concern elevates above safe thresholds
Then why do we have any defensive
Should just go in raw no mitigation
I cant even remember the last time I was in defensive stance
I dont think ever since fury got it back, I've used it 
Well you don’t stay in dstance
Its really strong. I use it sometimes. But not too often
Great for big nukes you know are coming. Or for standing in things you couldnt get away with otherwise. Dstance+uptime>berserker stance but losing uptime.
Plus no real cooldown
Plan is still to craft the spore bracers and cloak right?
Im probably just saving till I can craft a gilded crest 2h weapon. But I am not a top 100 gamer.
Im gonna be a weapon gamer because theyre gonna adjust tuning with embelishments for the first month probs
Cant go wrong with a fat weapon and upgrading ur offhand for free
What about second myth weapon
Also I dont wanna count on my week one vault for that. I wont be doing mythic raid bosses often.
It’s 50/50
Just loot a 2nd wep week 2
Sounds like I just need to full clear myth raids week 1. Solves a lot of gearing issues
If you want to vet craft you can I guess, it’s just gold
Ya just loot full myth with your raid splits
you are NOT 250 breh
I think I hit 234 yesterday. Still got like 3 pieces that are not veteran
Ive gotten like 5 chests and 4 weapons from m0. Nothing else drops
you can be like almost 242 without having spent any vets but even spending all of them 300 is only 15 upgrades which is like +3-4 avg ilvl
at most its possible to be like 245-246ish
Ive gotten 7 trinkets and 2 chests
0 trinkets for me
but thats also like an egregious use of crests to have done so anyway
is it worth to craft 2h weap at the start or is it better to go cloak wrists
usually weap but may have more laid out plan some time next week
typically good announcements in #updates-midnight sorta go over those options
Itll probably depend on if embellishments get changed. Personally id wait till the 17th patch notes.
And Archi has always posted a crafting guide once it becomes relevant iirc
cool
wha you goonin to
Are ppl runing slayer or MT atm?
I mean clearly dps warrior needs buffs were so low they arnt even showing up on the sim chart
It seems like some ppl blast with slayer atm
Feels good clapping in 6+ mobs tho
But I do like the MT build more
Both is fine
Just play what you like
I think slayer needs more haste to feel good imo
Slayer has a bit more concentrated aoe burst, thane has more sustained aoe. Both are close to each other though and m0s aren't difficult enough for those minor differences to matter
Was gonna say it's so hard to know with just m0 out.
Im not understanding slayer burst. Folks say its more then MT but from where. BS doesn't seem that more bursty then thane on bigger packs
But I've found higher numbers with slayer
Like charge ramp thunder clap or blast hits like a truck
It takes like 20s to finish your aoe burst as thane, and like 8 seconds to finish your aoe burst as slayer
If the pack only lives 10 seconds, slayer will look bettee
feel like 3 thunderblasts/clap as thane already clears a bladestorm
that button is some ass
Sims flatten damage niches out of the equation so there is inherent bias in the sim structure
100% aura buff to arms just to match dk 
But warrior is shit give it a buff
Looks correct to me at a glance for dps warriors, not sure about anything else
That's with the updated APLs and trinket nerf
I can only conclude frost DK is under arms
On the old sheet yes but the trinket nerf took it down a bit
Fury is the best passive cleave dps in the game, so if there is a demand for passive cleave then they are the best
They can play disc
No
def no lul
Have you forgotten that udk exists
Arcane
Survival hunter maybe
Hey there, does anyone has an idea of how the fury MT rotation should look like? I feel I've been getting good results for what you are saying here, but still want to double check
Spriest
They are cd based cleave
Warlocks
even dev seems kinda op now
perma 5target
Check the wowhead guide, was just updated a couple days ago
alright, thanks 😉
in other words..don't craft shit till you do all of the above
craft to fill
is that also buffed ilvl or no
item lvl jumps to 250
figured itd just be lowest tier champ but idk
very true
my question was about crafting lol. not sure i understand laria guide in regards of that. Are we not crafting anything yet ? what is the downside of crafting with veteran crest lower ilvl piece before raid week
do we enchant different enchants our weaps, or same enchant on both weaps?
no wait to craft untill you do all of the above according to Ivyveins..see picture
you craft to fill what you end up missing or not getting week 1 season 1
to maximize chances of upgrading every slot
i understand thanks!
Some warriors want that 259 spark weapon or insta gear so bad they will craft it right after reset...imo that is a complete waste of sparks
It doesn’t waste the sparks
You can recraft it later to myth
I mean who gives a shit for the m0 time
he asked what to craft or not to craft next week
yeah we will raid immediately wednesday evening so might as well vet up before recrafting
exactly, just gotta be patient and play the RNG game
I don’t think it’s a big deal either way
for those mid maxxing..yes
Question, it might because im on mobile and cant see it, but on wowhead guide is there the typical best gear from m+ dungeons?
About how strong is our tier set ? 3-4 %
nothing in stone on wowhead but anything with haste and mastery rn before the season starts
Our tier is pretty mediocre
Sim is bis
Is sim complete yet?
Yes
Really feels like it should be heroic raids this week, not a fan of this extra long pre season
Blizz trying really hard not to give people FOMO
@waxen vigil @sullen dove
Oh M0s are daily lockout next week? Oof
🔥
god so fat
Yeah makes preseason world tours pointless
Champ gear too
Mhm
Yeah no kidding.
Which will then immediately be replaced by m+ hero
the pinned dps faq still shows season 4 builds
i used one of icy veins for m+ it has no aoe other than bladestorm
any update slayer builds ?
Check wowhead
Does execute do anything except hit like a wet nooddle? I just dont see it. What am I missing?
Sudden death gives you reap the storm procs
Aoe whirls
For thane it’s pretty low on the priority
thats wheere i got but that had no aoe dps at all other than bladestorm let me check again
i doubt it matters since we will be wet noodles anyway and they will probaglby priotize raid and not touch anything itll worlds race is over
so we will be in dog shit terrority for forseeable future
Good for basic learning of the dungeons
Yeah that’s not right. Should be keeping up improved WW to cleave
Did you click on slayer m+ build from wowhead? Not the raid one
yeah i got from icy viens i forgot that was messed
wowhead is banned in my country so have to use vpn
lol HUH?
yeah apprently not enough revenue from coutnries like india for wow head so they just blocked it
its from wow heads side not us
rotation for salyer is same just replace TC with WW and priortise raging blow over BT right ?
No, prio bt over rb
Curious, wouldn’t line 6 outside of cooldowns be redundant because you only really want to rampage to maintain enrage or prevent overcapping rage (100+)
you don't have to keep it up, you just press it sometimes
its like if you press all the previous buttons and youre at 80ish rage exactly and every other button after is bad pmuch u just hit rampage then
i guess i was missing rent now dps on dummies aoe is closer gessing its much better on single target
You’ll have a high uptime on rend without thought because you filler with that over raging blow
like you only hit wrecking/rend if you cant hit ramp at all and any of the other buttons
lol pressing anything you can other than raging blow
Yeah so to me that reads that it’s better to ramp between 80-100 rage than it is to generate with one of the fillers below line 6
nothing auto applies the rend in slayer right
naw
Slayer go brrr
So we basically try to avoid pressing
Wt rend rb and ww altogether
execute
I’m surprised those fillers are so bad we don’t pool rage
how do u aoe dps with WW
without*
rend is also needed for bleed dps
He means using ww has filler
nvm execute mioght be deep wounds
That screenshot I’m discussing is not a priority for aoe
Aoe priorty has maintaining meatcleaver near the top
Surely
It does
might as well play thane
not it makes any difference since all warrior specs re doing limp dick dps anyway
Fury warrior is great atm.
It’s just all melee are getting destroyed by range classes
yes great after every swingle dps spec in game is done with their primary specs
That’s just a feature of wow
I’m hitting 150-200k on omega M0 pulls bro
Should nerf really
To much warrior stronk
Highest ive seen is around 240k. But Ive seen others go higher
i just did den or whatever and I ended at like 55 🙁
GUys what is the best for M+ Now? Slayer or Thane?
weird pulls I g uess
Seen a prot pally hit 300k.
was slayer the popular m+ hero talent last season? If so, what are the expectations for this upcoming season or too early to tell?
They are strictly talking dps on single pull, not ovr
oh thank god
lol
if u are top dps as a warrior in m0 right now as a wrrior
u are running with some baddies for sure.
i've seen enhancement go off
Warrior ovr will beat every other melee.
clap - thing - clap - thing though as thane is effective but really god damn boring
feels like a crappy line dance
zero chance DK will demoish wars so will DH
DK counts as melee but UH DK is like a weird mix of ranged and dot
Dk is ranged now sir
Udk is basically a ranged class
like at least ranged classes have to like balance movement and casting
Eve tankier than we are, with arguably better mobility if they can play rider
Have you played arcane recently?
no
60% of the bosses health I’m just running and gunning like a hunter
i like elemental shaman because they have an ability that just lets them blast
The fact that earthquake requires your tank to sit still is a turnoff for me
Sure are a lot of bad players out there. Good thing warrior players are better than all of them 
i play with a bunch of friends and we are all most close to what ever our sims are so its a good benchmark
currently just gettign demolished in dps they could do 1 buttont rotation
adn still out dps wars in m0
everyones been playing same classes for donkeys years anyway
Are they playing ranged dps?
its a mix paladin mage, dh, mainly
what race is dope/best, ive been orc my whole life and am tired of it
Ive been keeping up with the udk in my group 😮
You should be beating the pally and havoc dh (if they are havoc)
and charge back in fast
Gnome
This is the way.
Panda is cool
Good news bad news situation
Meant 240. Sorry, typo
How do survival hunters compare atm cause also keeping up with him aswell
how much dps u guys hitting on training dummys?
Lmao yeah probably
cant tell if im doing rotation wrong or warrior smol
Uhhh like 30k I think? Not sure exactly
I never use training dummy, because half our problem is just uptime and learn pulls and boss fights really well
yeah im just curious more so
70%*
im also hitting 30k
thats with slayer single target, should i just run slayer overall? like ill never hit higher than my guildies with thane but least i can help more with boss fights in mythics
the rotation list confuse me. I see some say never hit RB but i feel like theres alot of downtime where if i dont hit it im just standing there
same with WW
You do have to hit it plenty just after all the good stuff
so when all the juice is down just throw it in there
Yea, im going from memory of last night. But in trash pulls, im using rb finally when I have like 25ish seconds left on my reck cd
I pretty regularly pop CDs as soon as they are up right now
should i full send bladestorm if reck isnt up unless reck is up in like 10 secs
I’d assume wait till you have reck. I don’t player slayer. I’m gonna try it out tonight
I’ve only played thane mostly
gotcha thanks for the insight guys! sorry new to the class, trying to learn the ins and outs lol
As thane during reck I don’t think I hit crushing blow once (just off memory)
I think you hold bladestorm if you have 40 seconds or less left on Reck
In aoe pulls anyway
Yea, same.
I’m on mobile and I really haven’t gone digging at all, but what talent or w/e lets us hit BT multiple times without a cd
you made me double take a couple mins ago with the ping from the other server lmfao
LOL
Hidden Warrior discord

Where do you find the chart with how classes are specifically simming right now?
do you guys hold your crests?
just holding vet crests
Yes - adventurer
I got a vet weapon so I went all in on that. Lol so I now have 2 250 weps
Efficiency wise crafting two vet pieces for embellishes and then upgrading 240 vet pieces with the rest is the play
spend them or explode
I can’t I have the harbringer achiev on them
Then what u sayin u holding em for
I hold crests - adventurers

Chest L
Dornogal
So if we're stuck on 237 weapons we just send it on weapon craft no?
I'm not really feeling all that great about raiding on 237 weapons lol
M+ isn't until 24th so it doesn't factor into the equation for first raid week
Thank you!
I don’t remember how you get the triangle blue rocks currency
And the hat look really good on taurens
anyone got the cancel ww aura macro?

are you going for worlds first curve or why does this matter
If no one upgrades. And I upgrade. I get good day 1 parse and can ride that high for the expansion.
no curve til lura buddy
you will be forgotten
me last expansion
I'd prefer to have decent logs, which are made easier by having better gear
🤷
early logs are very relevant and important
I was never even see
Every log eventually gets averaged together so to a certain extent yeah
do you only raid heroic or something
Yes. I've only played since prepatch so I cannot get into a mythic raiding guild right now, hence why I am focusing on making sure my logs and everything look good.
If you can reliably show up to raid you can get into a mythic guild
ok no harm done if you int your crests to parse heroic ig
good afternoon was wanting to make sure i got this correct
#showtooltip
/cast Recklessness
/cast Berserking(Racial)
or change the order?
any guild worth their weight will see that you crafted on hc week and not invite you
whether you will be joining a guild where that matters is your deal
+1
All the ones that fit my schedule want experience sadly.
That is a fair point and one I hadn't considered.
You just have to accept that you might have to play a tier without getting CE just to gain some experience
I mean I'm not aiming for CE - I come from other MMOs where I'm used to their version of mythic raiding so just want to get back to that environment asap
ok so someone who is new this expac is obviously not gonna join a guild "worth their weight" in the first tier unless they are extreme exceptional and jump multiple times in the first tier
even then you should just not craft hc week
but also nobody is gonna look at day 1 parses for your application
Good shot at getting invited to a team scraping the barrel during race for world last CE
I don't think I'm good enough for CE guilds even at my best tbh lol
look in LFG recruiting maybe you find a fit
you'd be surprised
you can parse well on heroic without hindering your near future gearing progress for a very small inmediate future small gain
That’s world 2000 CE all day long
but you do you
Is CE not top 100? I thought that was what I read
You need heroic logs
Oh wait no that's Hall of fame
being reliable and blue parsing can get you in a top 500 guild
isnt hall of fame like 350 guilds nowadays
people who dont raid really overthink how good you have to be to get CE
fake af
Does anyone here coach warrior atm?
His hurdle will more so be getting onto a team rather than being able to perform well enough to achieve it
People gate keep hard with zero Mythic raiding back ground
sorry to interupt recklessness before racial in a macro or vice versa?
Shouldn’t matter
I always put my cd first
ok thanks
You can pretty easily get into a non CE myth raid team by mid tier with good heroic logs
get decent heroic logs and join a guild that kills a small amount of mythic bosses and go from there probably
Yep
Great now we’re nerfed
A lot of CE is the time commitment and reliability
me when im funky and do dungeons with glue eaters and post meters
fury nerfs confirmed thanks
I went from the 4th boss on mythic to the last boss on mythic during abberus simply because the group needed warrior buff and I so happen to apply they took a shot on me we killed the boss and then the following week I got a full clear carry and took that xp with me once that guild disbanded
Basically my point is start small gain some exp and shoot your shot
You can get it done
i am a terrible example because i just got in a guild by having connections (the gm/rl) and getting CE in my first tier 
i have a 240 crit vers wrist and got a 240 haste mastery wrist, do i keep the upgrade or roll it away?
Primary or secondary stat feasts?
its +200 dps but thats only 0.5%
I doubt half the 200-500 ranks are even checking that let alone worse CE guilds and late prog hells.
the other person has 237 wrist with crit mastery
i'll dm their gms personally
devious creature
do i keep or trade a +200 dps upgrade? (0.5%) for the stranger its 237->240 ilvl
😭
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/godbeGssjMJjWRC9QA6j4X i sim 51k but in reality it feels alot worse
Ehh I toss people a bone if I already have a 240 piece in that slot but it’s pretty much whatever since M+ invalidates this gear immediately
Good lad 🤝
If it’s a guildie they’re gonna understand they need to get better luck cause that shits mine
any m0 trinkets that are really good for slayer?
Oh, you rich rich Mr enchanter
talk about padding
I like heart of wind cus haste is tasty and it seems to have pretty solid uptime
But that's just going off feel
Did fury get any tuning with the weekly reset? I feel way weaker this week than I did last week during my mythic tour and I've gone up almost 15 ilvl and my stat weights are better. I'm doing MT aoe in m0s btw
Weirdge. So it's a get gud situation
mayhaps your group mates just got better so you're worse off in comparison
Surely patch notes for us to dissect before the weekend
more like observational bias

I’ve been saying it forever I stg we have extra threat multiplier some how some way because of Prot
It has to be there’s no way you can sneeze on the pack and take threat
It’s insane
Yea most of my runs this week and last were with my friend group so same comp. They also got juiced since last weeks runs so maybe they are doing better than me in comparison
does this feel like its nerfed cuz of warriors or something
theres no chance 27 armor is better than 115 stam defensively right that seems so booty
but literally like 2-3 more strength to use that vs stamina think this is actually like worthless
give it away these items are nonconsequential
m0 was good to me today
Gotten like 6 chests and 4 weapons nothing else
I swear I earned two sparks in early access but I was capped to 1 so it's gone forever, we should be at 3 no?
it looked like it was 1 on the currency tab but yes should have gotten 2 actual items anyway
Yeah should have 3 now
and got a 3rd one this week
yo gents are we crafting weapons this week?
Next week because it costs 4 sparks
i upgraded a 2h wep to 240ilvl, was this a mistake?
I mean probably not since all your gear is going to get replaced the first week of M+ anyways
Is Slayer doing better than Mountain Thane for M+ rn?
this trinket is the aggro puller
No. Slightly worse
Prove it
i really like this combo for thane
da full set
Go throne of thunder. Pick up all the armor that has those electric crackling stuff around it. Enjoy being a real thunder thane

even worldquests drop up to 230
was one in middle of harandar that had one for every single one of my alts
oh so we're a vet spending piggy are we
course
im not 100% sure which one you mean
isnt this tier 15?
take on vet crest spending xantage
better be
ing those day 1 heroic parses
End of next week we all run around in 270 armor anyways. Or however much mythic+10 will drop
in 2 weeks but yea
next week highest youll get is some 4/6 hero gear but most pieces prolly some amount of champ ilvl
think very safe to say should easily have 250 every slot next week tho minimum
if m0s are daily and drop champ gear
if not then more suske but whatever
Ill miss the first 3 weeks of the season anyways. Im sure you eill tell me whats good then, lel
Dont worry, frend. Itll look even worse in a few days
[Fearless] bugged doesnt seem to work on any roots ive tried it on
Roots and Snares are not impairs, slows are
it is just badly WoW formualted text
but it works as intended
raidbots wants me to upgrade ring instead of shoulders lol.
isnt mainstats better then ring stats?
and shoulders are haste/mastery our bis, ring is crit mastery
Bis are fake
i mean your rings going from 233 to 250
vs 240 to 250
probably didnt add a "rest of your vets on ring after upgrading shoulders"
which is im assuming like 250 shoulder 240 ring
regardless prolly not most optimal to dump literally all of your vet crests right now but if youre not doing any serious raiding in the coming weeks then not as big of a deal i guess
pretty good slayer u thinks guys ?
Sure
i hate thane
nice
Do people think fury will get buffs? Arms nerfs are a given
Same
I just miss having bladestorm when I play thane
recolte de la tempete
GUYS
is there an enchant for wrist or back for this xpac
or no
seems like all of them on AH are from last xpac so leaning toward no
I could be misremembering but I think I remember reading no more cloak boot wrist
Instead we get head shoulders
whats is the best talent tree right now? for raid and m+
Slayer and thane
can u show me the talent trees? or the strings for it, please
There is a website called wowhead which has all the best speccs for all situations for all classes and speccs

Im nice today so here u go
are there any trinkets worth farming next week when m0 is on a daily reset?
kinda nothing right? Puzzlebox and solarflare wont be available still
nah
does details work just like before?
so you all incredible detail m0 are slayers player?
nop
damn.. any addon that shows everyones ilvl in the group without inspecting 1 by 1
Method Raid Tools should have it
What
what's the idea behind algeth's puzzle box trinket? since our cds are reduced by rage we use it on cd or always wait to align cds?
@hot shell i saw somepople post 60k overall, they are in slayer or mountain?
I posted em as Slayer, Thane should be closer to 70k
Idk, they usually say that or show the dmg breakdown.
Both can do 60k overall
i assume so
Yeah u can run pit next week
Anyone got a good talent build? Im worried about not having Enraged Regen in mythic, which is what icyveins recommends
For fury warrior
Drop WnF or massacre for it
You probably don't really need it if you're diligent about using defensive stance
is the prey thing go to ur alt if u never done it?
does anyone know why my sim does not show the trinket buff from the champion trinket we got from the renown the crucible thing
all the heroic trinkets 20 item level lower sim better than the 246 crucible
P sure they nerfed it but also it might be bugged in simc
that explains it 😄
does this look normal or am I out of order
maybe bb a little too high compared to ramp or somethin but not the worst
imagine tclap usually the highest tho on many target count
maybe 5ish it could look more like that
If I'm using the M+ mountain than build, do I follow the priority for single target mountain thane on bosses in the dungeon? Or is there a different rotation to follow?
ya prolly just st
what's the best way to get some haste rings? spam delves or spam heroic nexus point
yes
actually i guess if i spam delves i'd at least be leveling up valeera...can haste rings drop out of delve rewards?
If you already have both 250 weapons doesnt it make more sense to craft 2 armor pieces next week instead or is the weapon effect really important?
if you are just crafting a weapon that's the same ilvl or lower than your weapons you can most likely skip it, Save the crests.
on slayer fury is it worth pressing rend?
Its about a 1% difference if done right according to archi
So if you want to skip it you probably can
what missing, how upgrading 240 to 250 mainhand is downgrade?
If you do use rend its towards the bottom of the prio list
link the sim? most likely it put the crests to something else in the top sim and thats a better gain
238 I feel like im trash
yeah looks weird i cant tell either
This is actually what I'm wrestling with right now, and I don't understand raidbot enough to know how to test this.
save to craft mythic crest weap
I picked haste
Is it best to hold odyn's fury to sync with cooldowns or do you just send it when it's up?
got it. thanks!
Even without stance mastery?
Clarify, not advocating for ER, just defensive being strong enough with stance mastery
idk if "good" is the word
on aoe situation u should be using thunder clap everytime its up
omg... I had the exact same feeling in a m0 just now. Was doing my absolute darndest bestest effort and was being absolutely out dps by the tank... Given, i'm 221ilvl and the tank was 236 but stilll... the gap was big 🙁
its just able to be dropped for a minor amount of dmg which most of the time u always want to take
but it is p insignificant to swap like 1 talent for it if you want it
thunder clap should be as high as if not higher than thunder blast
idk whats goin on there for it to not show up at all
but yea you should be hitting that much more often
in cds pmuch all you do is blast/clap > button > blast/clap > button > clap > x > clap etc
most of the time the button is ramp since u have high rage but when its lower u can hit bb but bb not as important on aoe, especially mass aoe with more than like 5-6 targets
clap if no stacks or just calp if avail?
clap - filler - clap -filler -clap filler
pretty much on cd regardless even out of cds
out of cd ramp - bt - exec - rb prio
Do you shift back to single target rotation once you get back down to 2-4 targets and just weave in TC every 5th attack?
exe before rampage
so my clap>ava/reck>Ramp>ody>ramp>BT is bad?
yes
yea hit clap like 3 more times in between all that
u should ava/reck-> odyn -> clap -> ramp -> clap -> ramp -clap-bt clap ramp clap bt clap ramp clap
u get it lol
probably prioing ramp and bt but imagine youd still hit clap over something like rb
but after that if you dont ahve any button and need to hit rb then sure
has this change since the last time I saw it?
not really
I yoinked that off of WH I think
looks good
maybe no cruelty if anything? but it could be included
idr
regardless yea just hit clap a lot more
not gonna lie tho idk what the unholy in your group was doing anyway
both of you under the tank is crazy but him especially
op ass class doing 38k
unless hes like 200 ilvl
that tank was pulling fucking weird and we wiped every other pull
ya that may explain some things
if he lived longer and got to do more dps or somethin
overall just gets wrecked
at the very least yea at least showing dmg breakdown very noticable fix
I have both here 🙁
i mean like what % of your abilities did dmg
U guys saying to weave clap every other GCD it seems. Is that just the flat DMG from it? I was only pressing it to reset the stacks
yea very large flat damage
only on aoe
Aight Ty. Didn't know
but big good
in st rb > clap
it may lead to you not hitting bb for like 5-10 seconds in aoe which is kind of cringe but you gotta do what you gotta do
ramp clap ramp clap ramp clap yep cocka
l.ol yupp
even if ramp is rdy send a clap
but i still have to test this on 4t
ramp might be better than clap on 4-5 t
idk
I was convinced clap only to enable aoe capability for other abilities. Vice damage. I was wrong
lmao no
Glad I caught this convo
is Tblast take higher prio is its ST?
I thought that clap only did that when there was >6 targets?
but only thunderblast
Otherwise BT/BB is higher prio than just clap i
not too sure honestly i havent simmed
but i think ramp - clap is better even on 5 target
i would only bt if ramp isnt up
gonna have to sim
theres a macro
that casts tc if its known
ww if it isnt
tc replaces ww so no point in having it on a diff bind
Ya I more so meant to move it a more usable bind
Due to me pressing it more now
I legit only sent it for blast or to reset stacks. Not for DMG.
Gotta move it to a more comfy thumb button
am i reading this right, in cooldowns every second button with 6+ targets is thunderclap?
which often just devolves into rampage -> tc -> rampage
#updates-midnight message guessing this guide is just ST then?
ye
avatar buffs the shit out of tc/tblast
and the damage diff between tblast and tc is nowhere near tww levels
tc does absurd damage during avatar
its also softcapped
yeah just feels weird, also according to the prio you rarely hit bloodlust to escalate it to tblast since your almost back over 100 rage
makes cooldowns with 6+ targets kind of meme-y
i get it though, if the delta between tclap and tblast is so minor, then rampage gives us stacking strength buffs which buff both
and is probably woth morth then bloodthirst
all hail rampage, rampage royal flush, the age of rampage
all hail 2 button spec
im expecting some major rotational changes to warrior come the balance pass
simply because a few number shifts could swing things
from raging blow priority, to bloodthirst prio to tclap
numbers wise its a really interesting spec to "optimize" because there are so many different interactions between the abilities
afaik wowhead rota is simplified at minimal loss. iirc bb>tc when targets are <35% due to vc but 100% there is some weird target count breakpoint where tc>bb again
simply spending more/less rage has macro level implications over a 5min sim
tldr its not worth the effort
im of the same perspecting with stormbolt during slayer bladestorm and wrecking throw tbh
ure maybe gonna do 0.2% more damage at like 7 targets or something but then in the next pack u will miss count by 1 and do 1% less
stormbolt is there cause some people dont like doing nothing during bs
but its basically nothing ye
and a bad habit
are people crafting weapons with their veteran crests? or is there a better option other than just remaining pieces that need to be filled
bladestorm gives you plenty of time to scream "BLADESTORM" over vc
Watched critcakes latest vids. I see his rotation for thane . That was helpful.
Do we know what the set raid talent will be? Slayer across the board?
afaik there is a lot of cleave so probably thane
new video?
Probably irrelevant clave where extra boss damage wins out but either way they’re both so close now I don’t think it matters
yeah but u kinda expect fury to handle the irrelevant cleave when it can do so at very low cost
hi yall, im debating a last minute pivot to fury warrior for midnight. are you all liking fury in here? 😄 im not going to have a consistent tank to do m+ with so furys on demand damage interests me instead of my assass rogue that i currently am on since i wont have reliable pulls to scale damage on.
i meant, when did he post a new fury vid?
What you linked is the latest!
what do i have to do to craft my 2h weapon with 4 sparks next week? i havent crafted since legion so please explain it like i'm 5 years old
fury just sends cds on cd
Someone just told me to go watch the last few vids. Which I djd
as thane both reck and avatar are on anger management so they are both synced
u can just macro them together
Fury is fun
and as slayer bs is a bit harder to sync since its on its own cdr mechanic
Like just good vibes
but it usually syncs
Fury simple. Fury Zug. Go beyblade go.
ive tried
afflock
unholy DK
assass rogue
but in these m0's its not feelign great so i cant get a good idea of what classes im liking lol
What are you looking for?
Like do you want calm, spammy, flat damage, big CDs damage
Mobile. Tanky, can do it all
a melee dps that isnt completely cooldown reliant, with some ondemand damage
i might just be hating the fact that every class feels pretty CD reliant atm
Yo how good is fury gonna feel with a ton of haste. Bet it'll be super fun!
fury is like that
Definitely worth checking out fury then, it’s definitely less peaks and valleys than heavy cd classes but avatar+reck feels good too. Avatar feels like it lasts forever and BS is back quickly with all of the cdr
Outlaw also I feel like isn’t cd dependent as much as like feral, WW, or DK
For ranged, destro or frost is gonna be your best bet
Comparing something like an UH to Fury we certainly aren’t CD reliant comparatively in terms of peaks and valleys so give it a try and see if you like!
awesome. thanks for the help guys im gonna mess around on my warrior!
Thats been wows class design for years
But id say cdr specs arent. Espically outlaw
Devouring Banding is the suggested embellishment at this time, right?
unless something changed and if talking about PVE bis its X2 Primal Spore Binding according to wowhead, (devouring band is mentioned as a top pick contender but the actual lists show spore bindings)
Do I use bloodthirst over raging blow?
yes
Going back to slayer after playing thane. Guess im cooked 
So this is the end of my gearing for this week, after H Prey and World Tour. I'm thinking I just crest craft shoulders/bracers, and then use rest for upgrading. Am I mistaken in thinking this is fine? If so, what am I missing
I didnt even get a vet track weap. Rigged aaaah game
yea i mean gear isn't super important if you know you have a way into stuff tbh everything gets insta replaced by real season gear
not to say getting ready is bad but I wouldn't stress too much
don't waste the sparks on shoulders - Tier will eventually take of that (and they have our best stats too)
I'm not spark crafting
Gotta stop fomoing i guess 
Just crest crafting
oh
guaranteed tier shoulers in first three boxes
quick check for slayer ST going into raids next week
seems like you never press bladestorm outside of recklessness?
i assume youd use it on cd but yeah the guide doesnt have it outside cds lol
Try to line it up but I’m sure there’s going to be scenarios where you send it without CDs
So what's the catalyst/spark deal this time, back and forth again?
a lot is up in the air atm, gonna revisit it this weekend after tuning is announced
are m0's a daily reset now?
no
oh, thought i saw something about that

is there a build for Slayer in M+
Well boys, that's where we end the week for gearing. Slayer chads unite 😄
i just dinged 90 yesterday :3
crest spender 
Can confirm, spent crests
Where is this from?
Icyveins
do you have the link by chance?
ooh
i found it
this is nice
ty ty


