#fury

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fading sky
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Sadness🄲

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Remember to chillšŸ˜„, and have fun

placid adder
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are people bothering to craft 2h yet?

fading sky
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Loads of guilds if u look at discords + rio

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No content that reqs it

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Ill do it if i dont get weapas

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Next week

placid adder
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well yeh i was thinking that, but then I also thought we're gonna upgrade it again anyway with recraffts

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but fair

fading sky
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No

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U cant craft 2h

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With sparks

placid adder
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ah

fading sky
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So its sparkless. Doesnt go above vet i think?

placid adder
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ok mb didnt see that change haha

fading sky
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Only saw this morningkeks

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But its 4 sparks

placid adder
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yeh got it

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fml

fading sky
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But u will get 4th on opening eeek

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So kindda ideal tbh

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U get mythic weap basicly week 1 of raiding

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If u can get the cresties

placid adder
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cheers brother, same as before its just sparks are now whole but we need 4 not 2, gg

fading sky
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Y

undone flower
fading sky
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Hc then

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Still very nice

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A simple recraft mythic?

undone flower
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It is wasting 80 heroic crest tho, I don’t think I’ll craft at all

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And do 24th

fading sky
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What we should ofc

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All im sayin my war never got mythic weap in vault

placid adder
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im with you there brother, I was running crafted wep to 3.7k io before i finally got the vault upgrade

undone flower
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Yeah it’s more about the heroic crest, the first vault will not be mythic, unless raid row

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Im dumb myth raid comes out the 24th

icy whale
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i remember 3k being very good in legion bfa

fading sky
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Title good?

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Or good?

undone flower
fading sky
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Id say 3700 is good if u only pug

undone flower
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They were 10 dungeons

fading sky
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All depends on how much effort and time u have

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I topped at 3800 i think

icy whale
undone flower
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Idk I did 4800 or 4900 and didn’t consider myself very good

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icy whale
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in bfa season 4 there were 4 fury warriors with 5k

honest trail
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It's not about how you consider yourself tho.

Gaming is the only field where being top 1% in the world is considered average

icy whale
undone flower
icy whale
undone flower
honest trail
icy whale
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yeah but if you are top 5-10 fury warriors worldwide, you cant just say thats "very good"

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thats 0.01%

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probably less

undone flower
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Title doesn’t care about classes

icy whale
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yeah but i asked whats considered very good for m+ score and you drop 5k

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šŸ’€

honest trail
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I can reach top 20 in just my country and 300 world wide I think that's pretty good šŸ˜‚
Can always be better but it is objectively good

undone flower
honest trail
undone flower
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If I pick a random dude having 1% score, I’m not even certain he will be good

honest trail
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"Good" is subjective

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Top 1% is objective

undone flower
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We are talking about a subjective topic

honest trail
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I guess so

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There's always a standard to compare from

undone flower
honest trail
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If you standard is the top 0.1, no one is good

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If you consider everyone trying

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Then it's quite different

icy whale
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so 3k score in bfa season 4 was top 580 for fury warriors

icy whale
honest trail
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Rather than score rank could be a better comparison point

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Idd

icy whale
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i think top 1000 fury should always be considered a very good fury warrior

honest trail
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Fair

undone flower
honest trail
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So for example I ended TWW s3 like 330 or 340 ish fury

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And I was 3k7

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If that helps

undone flower
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My brain doesn’t process prepatch score, just warning

honest trail
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Ofc

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Hence season

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3k9 prepatch but it has 0 value

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So 3k7 season 3

icy whale
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in tww season 3 3.7k was top 1160

honest trail
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Really?

icy whale
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i think breathing happy would consider you a normie

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šŸ’€

honest trail
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My mistake then

icy whale
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but jokes aside thats really good

honest trail
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Lol

undone flower
honest trail
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Must have messed up the numbers

uneven plaza
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which talent do we skip in order to get Enraged Regen?

honest trail
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And not take ER in raid at all

uneven plaza
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ty!

undone flower
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Raider.io doesn’t have cutoffs for bfa S4 sadge

honest trail
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It's old!

icy whale
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i wish they would normalize the score on io

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so top is always 1000 and bottom is always 0

undone flower
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And for S3 TWW, whatever 20s score is I guess

honest trail
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Sounds weird

honest trail
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Something

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No?

icy whale
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then you could compare every season/expansion where you stand between 0 and 1000

undone flower
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Yeah it is painful score is unique each season

honest trail
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There is more than 1k players how do you rank ppl timing the same key by seconds

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It's definitely not a good system

icy whale
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i dont mean rank 1 to 1k

honest trail
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I understand

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But since pushing is theoretically infinite it van not work

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It's like an elo system

icy whale
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of course it works

honest trail
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It's pretty standard

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We just can't go down

icy whale
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#1 player is always 1000

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if #1 player increases his m+ score, every other player gets squished

undone flower
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Losing score

honest trail
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Most frustrating

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System

undone flower
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Wowhead comments

honest trail
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Ever

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Lol

icy whale
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well not losing score, just a 2nd ranking for comparison

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could also just calculate it, but its annoying to do for every season

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or maybe they could add a "x % away from #1"

honest trail
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Think the system is pretty fine.but then again I am new to WoW, only played TWW

undone flower
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Idk only stinky ppl talks about that in a class channel, so I don’t see it very needed in the game

icy whale
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but its basically just your score / #1 score, if you are #1 its 1.0, if you have half of it its 0.5

honest trail
icy whale
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yeah of course, personally it would just be convenient to scroll through all the seasons and see in which percentile i placed

honest trail
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Fair

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I think individual ranking seems good enough to compare tho

icy whale
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it totally makes sense to leave it as it is

honest trail
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In role, class and spec

icy whale
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people who dont know math would end up crying

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shit game why did my score go down grrrrr

opal basalt
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Theres a new system for fury?

icy whale
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grrrr why cant i get above 1k grrr

undone flower
honest trail
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We also have server ranking so I can be 1st on 2 classes since realm is dead

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🤭

undone flower
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I normalize the score myself smh

icy whale
undone flower
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That’s the benchmark for good, since it is usually the keys where you start to need to kick all casts, even simple bolts

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It is not absolute rule ofc, it helps my brain

icy whale
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my goal is to get 3k and above that i remember m+ being more pain than fun

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bombs gave me ptsd

undone flower
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  • my own experience, if I do that key lvl the first month or stuff like that
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Since usually I just have a random m+ push in an early weekend and that’s my score for the entire season

icy whale
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what warcraftlogs score do you consider average and very good? the 1-100

undone flower
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I don’t care about m+ logs score at all

icy whale
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i mean for raids

undone flower
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80 I see the mood, but 90 I guess, it depends on the boss and which week we are ofc

icy whale
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i remember nyalotha being pain in the ass for melee

undone flower
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Bc like a dude who kills demensius before me whatever log he has he is better than me, he is allowed to die the pull they kill it

icy whale
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hmm

undone flower
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yes purple at +14

icy whale
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where did you find that?

icy whale
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ohh nice

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noooo they dont have it for bfa

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thats where i stopped playing sadge

undone flower
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5k was +28-29 keys from memory

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and top keys were +34

icy whale
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my expertise on this is that +30 is pretty good

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and so is +25

undone flower
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but it was diff vibe, bc very early you had to do the most cringe shit ever like hidding behind a wall or random boss attack explode azeroth

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or stacking vers

icy whale
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that sounds very fun

vague fern
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back when you used to have to get i think it was avoidance to roll on your gear xD

icy whale
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was i lucky with 8 veteran and 2 champion items equipped week 1?

undone flower
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i guess but if you have armor stack group it's more about next week since you will trade basically everything else

honest trail
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1 for each renown

undone flower
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yeah you don't have the neck and the trinket

honest trail
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Trinket for me was worse than Axethrower Adventurer tho

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Even in aoe

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Rofl

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But yeah

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Based on sims at least

undone flower
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i didn't do a sim yet

honest trail
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Well the axe is 13k dmg

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Champion trinket is like 200 crit

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With pretty much the same proc chance

undone flower
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i will not do a sim yet

honest trail
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Haha

native wadi
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Who tf sims already haha based behaviour

honest trail
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We going mythic raid week 1 with only 1 heroic raid run so probably still will have early pieces

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Better have the best starting ones

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Also gearing 2 fury

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To raid with the best geared one

undone flower
honest trail
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Same

undone flower
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  • i will sim just before the raid, i keep items in my bags
rare garnet
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yeah, be full heroic gear the week that m+ releases

hardy vault
honest trail
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I have drums and axethrower thing

rare garnet
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i think a lot of the world trinkets arent implimented in sims, yeah?

honest trail
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Idk if that's best

undone flower
honest trail
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Doesn't cost anything to sim xD

undone flower
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and what gain, so i can do .5% more dmg in the next 8 mm0s

honest trail
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In other MMOs I spend hundreds of hours on dummies to test

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So sim is nothing

icy whale
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i think next week the renown trinket will be much better

honest trail
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(Yes, am very autistic)

icy whale
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because then you basically double the effectiveness of the voidlust

honest trail
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Ye probably

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I haven't found how to buff the trinket on atls btw

icy whale
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right now i have intensity and frequency, and next week its duration is +200%, sounds big

honest trail
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Do I have to do a quest for it or is it warband

icy whale
honest trail
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I think I have 1

icy whale
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yeah you get 2 per week

honest trail
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Ah

icy whale
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and a 3rd for first time i think

honest trail
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Well Will see later

icy whale
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so by week 3 the skill tree should be completed

honest trail
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No gaming till next friday

icy whale
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i think you get one upgrade for world quest and one for the event

honest trail
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I have done all Voidstorm quests yet

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Haven't *

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With full tree it sounds pretty good y

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I'll have to check how it works

icy whale
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you only get the upper 3 upgrades for all content

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i think the lower 3 are exclusive to voidstorm area

digital mauve
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for slayer MT exec with SD proc > BT/BB ?

icy whale
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thats one of the upper 3

undone flower
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yeah you're right the trinket changed

icy whale
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mine says only sustenance is missing

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i think frequency and intensity is better week 1 because id rather have it frequently and strong than rarely or for a long time and not be able to apply it during downtime

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so in thane multitarget i basically only use thunder blast during avatar (clap at 9.)

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how come during single target i use thunder clap during avatar? (8.)

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is it because i have way less skills because i dont apply iww?

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where would you put thunder clap during avatar in the first image?

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above rampage or below?

icy whale
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so basically

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and filler rampage if over 100 rage, otherwise execute or blast

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that sums up the recklessness/avatar window

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now i wonder once my buff ran out how to correctly prioritize rotation

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but i guess you can sum it up like this:

  1. always rampage to get enrage
  2. then always BT
  • then for single: Execute > TB > RB > TC ||(don't care about wrecking throw)||
  • or for multi: TB/TC > Execute > RB
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would you approve this? @undone flower

strange vortex
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are you guys crafting 2h weapon right away on 17th/18th?

dense elbow
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I will wait and see if I get one in my first mythic vault

echo rapids
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Looks like dungeon trinkets are mostly bad

undone flower
wind token
undone flower
icy whale
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yeaah i replaced first filler with tb now

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probably 2nd filler also TB

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and after that it becomes a filler

marble swift
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world quest list is busted, anyone using a new addon?

strange vortex
wind token
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m+ aint out until 24th

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also you need 4 sparks

undone flower
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and you need myth crests to do max craft

strange vortex
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yes, you get 4th spark on 18th, you get early power with the weapon without myth crests and on 25th you upgrade it with myth crests

undone flower
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so basically you spend 80 heroic crests to kill heroic bosses and do mm0s to insta replace it the next week

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i will not do that personnally

strange vortex
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I didnt say heroic crests

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just the 259 weapon

torn urchin
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The 259 weapon must be worth crafting

undone flower
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yeah if you didn't loot a weapon this week or the next i guess

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and there is only 1 weapon in the raid the 17th (i will still not craft)

strange vortex
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and when will you craft, after two vaults if there are no weapons?

undone flower
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either the 24th or the week after

valid pulsar
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I did loot exactly 3 items in 8 m0 dungeons and it was cloak wrist and some other shit

fast mural
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first vault would be tier>weaapon no ?`
since there are no curios

strange vortex
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so why not craft it on the 18th if you are still gonna craft it on 24th and get extra early power with 259 weapon during the heroic week?

undone flower
fast mural
icy whale
undone flower
wind token
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you are wasting crests to just spend mythic crests anyways

strange vortex
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Im still talking about 259 weapon that requires no crests

undone flower
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it requires 80 champ crests

strange vortex
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it doesnt

valid pulsar
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Feels like shit

fast mural
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sparks are enough it seems

icy whale
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and 3 other players got 0

undone flower
icy whale
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šŸ’€

undone flower
fast mural
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man i got 8 items 2 of which were useless

woven niche
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Quick question:
Should I follow Icy veins or wowheads guide, or are they the same for Fury?

fast mural
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top end is 259

valid pulsar
undone flower
woven niche
undone flower
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@strange vortex idk then if i would craft or not myself, but you are right

valid pulsar
orchid oyster
undone flower
valid pulsar
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Is it ?

candid sorrel
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+it saves crests for upgrading

echo rapids
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Having a crafted let’s you upgrade your second 2 hander at a discount

sudden tusk
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The mythic raid 2h is also gonna be hard to get. From the last boss of raid 3 and the 5th boss off voidspire

echo rapids
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They really love doing that don’t they

modest condor
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member when we got weapons early in the raid

fossil orbit
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Guys, whats the macro to set a raid marker? I got the set focus mouseover to work but cant get the icon to work

lean nacelle
sly prism
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are we supposed to be overflowing with rage during reck?

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feels impossible to spend rage and stay on top of bloodthirst/thunder blast

vague copper
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Any loggin problem in EU for now or just me?

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Worked now..

fossil orbit
lean nacelle
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this does both

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remove the extra brackets if you just want mouseover

fossil orbit
spare steppe
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What class talent is best to drop to grab stance mastery for the mt m+ build? So strapped for points

brittle crow
modest condor
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i dont look at bis lists

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so i wouldnt be able to tell you

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what i do remember is that that weapon never dropped for us

brittle crow
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i got it like week 1

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cooked

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the legendary took forever tho

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think i hit hard pity on it

modest condor
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i got it the week before hard pity

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worst tier ever

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no windfury, no legendary

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capped out at blue parses on farm

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i remember one time i was 30k behind rank 1 parse while also simming 30k less than them

brittle crow
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literal gear issue

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?

modest condor
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missing 15k from legendary, 10k from windfury

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what can you do

past oxide
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is the new race bis?

red berry
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the difference is inconsequential really play what looks good to you

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also the axe farm was miserable

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12+ weeks for me

modest condor
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wait i didnt even have my legendary yet in that screenshot lol, can you imagine if i did have it

sullen dove
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teto

red berry
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huge. but you were denied. yeah that season was kind of a struggle in retrospect

normal bane
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does the cdm just suck with whirlwind stacks

rare garnet
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The real game mode

brittle crow
hybrid yew
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Hey so are we able to set loot spec to Fury now without worrying 1h weapons drop?

brittle crow
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yes

hybrid yew
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sweet

rare garnet
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the modern world is wonderful

brittle crow
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it doesn't tick down until the last hit of ramp

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which is well into the gcd

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just internalize that if u have 1 ww stack and press ramp then u press clap/ww

digital mauve
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anyone playing slayer here? how do you guys feels in m0 rn?

copper parcel
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feels like switching to thane

inner knot
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hey any suggest about race for fury

rare garnet
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pandaren good with stat food, mechagnome, earthen right now if you're not eating anything, void elf, whatever you think looks neat

haughty carbon
# digital mauve anyone playing slayer here? how do you guys feels in m0 rn?

Slayer is really strong in my opinion. MM0 isn’t really a reliable way to judge it though. It’s much less bursty than Thane, but you make up for it with constant pressure on packs. Aside from Rend that you have to apply manually, if you manage your CDs well there’s no reason you should fall behind in keys

vestal dragon
icy whale
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is the renown trinket bad? i feel like half the trinkets perform better at 237 when i sim

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or does it not include the voidstorm upgrades?

lament lagoon
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prob wrong pllace to ask but what should i max first on mining

oblique pond
fathom rapids
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do we care about bloodthirst more than raging blow now?

frail compass
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Depends on your talents, if you are playing thane with bloodthirst talents, you absolutely are looking to press Bloodthirst when ever you can

fathom rapids
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im just referring to here mostly

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st slayer, bloodthrist way higher on prio now than rb

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looks like u wanna use bt and execute before going to rb's, vs just rb forever in tww lol

vestal dragon
olive nest
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Is there a cap for how much haste we want? Or just get all the haste atm?

edgy widget
fathom rapids
timber hare
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Are we rending multiple targets for packs that survive long?

wild glade
timber hare
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For slayer I mean

wild glade
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Ew

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Manually rending does seem like some weird shit slayers would do

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🤣

timber hare
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Lmao

echo rapids
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Sadly yes we are

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Not in the opener j don’t think though

mortal ivy
wild glade
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Yeah I think manual rend is the reason i couldn't play slayer even if it was far ahead

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Sounds like my personal hell

mortal ivy
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When you look at sims rotation they never rend in reck always after first BT after reck ends

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As slayer

timber hare
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Alright good to know

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So just making sure. We making sure every mob has rend up in aoe packs after our big cd windows

mortal ivy
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It’s like soon as reck is about to end you usually either get that last Bloodbath in and you don’t have enough rage to go into rampage and you rend after or you do have enough and you bloodbath rampage rend

graceful elk
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What’s the prior now?

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Also what add ons are you guys using to track some of this stuff

wild glade
mortal ivy
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I use default CD manager and classsensi for whirlwind stacks

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And rage

graceful elk
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I know we used to track when to execute and use bloodthirst anything for those

wild glade
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You thinking like hekili or rotation helpers?

edgy widget
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best you can do is what the CDM already allows, in-build tracking of basic procs like Sudden Death

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on the other hand, you don't really need that kind of hyper specific tracking anymore, the things in the rotation which caused us to do that have been largely abolished

buoyant geode
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Hello, do we know the value of our tier set ?

young swan
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~3.5% iirc

graceful elk
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I feel so weak at the moment

solemn ore
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What are the best talents to use currently? Are the WoWhead builds good? This would be for AOE and ST

young swan
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wowhead is good yeah

young swan
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its to be expected

buoyant geode
graceful elk
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So is fury in just an average spot right now

young swan
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pretty much yeah

solemn ore
graceful elk
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Well that blows

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And arms is dog shit right

young swan
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yeah

graceful elk
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Damn so what everyone rerolling to lol

young swan
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not like it matters, theres nothing do to before raid that matters

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why would we reroll

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tuning on the 17th

wild glade
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Fury is life

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Just send it. If you've played warrior for long enough you'll be used to fighting uphill

graceful elk
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Yea this is true lol

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What’s our priority now? I saw someone say we hit bloodthirsty more now?

wild glade
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Press BT > press other shit

graceful elk
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Interesting why more prio?

young swan
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does a lot of dam

edgy widget
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it's not Unholy levels of broken, but it's v good and easy to play

solemn ore
edgy widget
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well that's all you're gonna do now

solemn ore
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bet xD

unborn delta
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What’s our bis trinkets in raid rn

edgy widget
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in AoE anyway, keep Clap on cooldown, press Rampage, and press BT; more or less in that order

solemn ore
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Got it. Thank you so much!

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Appreciate it!

wild glade
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I swear spending rage is a dps loss

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Its a mess

edgy widget
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Rampage is almost the highest priority Fury has so... not really no

wild glade
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Just what ive noticed, meter goes down if I hit rampage over bt

edgy widget
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I mean that's kind of a different context - you should not be pressing Rampage every chance you get

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but there's a reason Rampage costs 50/80 rage, while you can have up to 130

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Fury isn't really a spec that tries to spend rage every GCD, it's a spec that tries to avoid wasting rage due to overcap

unborn delta
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I wish rampage was good

edgy widget
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Rampage is extremely good lmao

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it's like 18-25% of your damage, not to mention all the supplementary benefits (Apex, Enrage)

wild glade
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Yeah i mean that is the only situation im hitting it in. Well to avoid cap or cause nothing else is available

unborn delta
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I mean numbers wise I hate how it does like 5k dmg 3 times

wild glade
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Or when im lost in the sauce and I hit it by accident

unborn delta
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It feels weak bc the dmg comes out in a series of hits vs a giant bt crit

edgy widget
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you're just using it closer to the cap instead of at the base

wild glade
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I'd need to check some breakdowns

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I imagine its high but I doubt its top

edgy widget
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this is ST Slayer, so ymmv a bit based on build, but this is what it should typically look like; if you combine Bloodthirst and Bath, they're close to Rampage

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if you're talking about multitarget thane, then obviously Clap use is going to be very high - combined with Blast it should be close to tied with Rampage

radiant plank
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cape is dead ā¤ļøā€šŸ©¹

wild glade
edgy widget
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Because of the reduced cooldown during Avatar, Clap/Blast should be similar to Rampage, but they're still going to be your top 2 most used abilities. BT/B doesn't actually get used that much during Avatar since gambling for Blast isn't worth the cooldown delay

dire vigil
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@modest condor I think that was you

modest condor
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?

dire vigil
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Were you just in WM doing Muckmire?

modest condor
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no

dire vigil
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oh shit, someone had the same name lol

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and was a woyer

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I was like "huh i think I've seen this person in Skyhold"

modest condor
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i have fans

dire vigil
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lmao

modest condor
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i mean my name is a reference to lord of the rings

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it's rare, but not impossible for someone else to have a similar name

dire vigil
#

gotcha

brittle crow
#

wtf did they get hat causes that

#

army never spawned that much

dire vigil
#

you spawn ghouls with scourge strike and more ghouls with putrify

inland flame
#

They have a short CD ability that summons ghouls and they summon ghouls with their scrouge strike instead of popping wounds

brittle crow
#

that sounds rad

#

makes me wanna try it

dire vigil
#

and then they can spawn all four hoursemen at once

#

yeah it's insane

#

My split alt is an UHDK this tier and I'll probably push m+ with it, it's really fun

echo rapids
#

Also all but one ability I think is fully ranged

desert cloud
#

Mountain thane new rotation is gonna make me crash out , this shit is more annoying than season 1 tww sub

#

And i was very good at sub

brittle crow
#

whats wrong w it

desert cloud
#

Having to keep track of rage as a fury warrior and when to press rampage and when to not + the random rage refund that changes everything

#

How much of a dps loss is it to play slayer in m+

echo rapids
#

Resource overload in reck with a very fluid rotation to do mid dps

desert cloud
#

Idk it feels weird to play

#

Tww montain thane was better

inland flame
#

I would really enjoy Slayer in M+ rn if there was a way to passively apply Rend

#

Not like it feels terrible to hit but I want to do all the other buttons warriorbrain

desert cloud
#

I wonder what cake plays in m+

orchid stag
#

damn the execute animation delay thing is still there for NEs

silent shard
#

when looking at the guide it's telling me to cast rampage when enrage is not active, should i focus on re-applying or keeping the buff up?

trail drift
#

Use rampage if: you do not have enrage, you’re about to cap rage, or pretty much if it’s available and bloodthirst is on cd.

#

You might want to Thunderclap/whirlwind first if you need it to AoE and playing Thane

silent shard
#

tyvm šŸ™‚

orchid stag
#

Does anyone else have the execute damage/sound is delayed animation bug?

#

It been goin for a few years now

oak peak
#

Is there any way to have any form of notification when you have a certain amount of rage? Or is all of that fully broken

rocky rover
#

opinions on dropping warpaint for enrage regen?

smoky vale
#

not required

undone flower
#

The only non secret ressources from memory are maelstrom and dh souls, if they didn’t add some

forest ginkgo
#

So how likely are we to craft two hander

#

I know theres a very high likelyhood its the best first craft, but still gotta know before i fix my blacksmithing specialty

oak peak
heady wedge
#

guys is slayer ok for m0?

radiant plank
#

yaeh

desert cloud
undone flower
edgy widget
edgy widget
edgy widget
#

what is what called?

#

oh you mean an API call

#

no, afaik there is no API call for how much resource you currently have in combat

desert cloud
#

They were talking about something that notifies you not to overcap the rage

edgy widget
#

yes I got that

low folio
#

so with the new powerful enrage, does it work just the same as it did before or does Diminishing returns factor in now since its mastery

wintry geyser
worn yoke
low folio
#

so its basically the same thing as it was before with new text

undone flower
#

Yeah I checked the api list, there is the current power call, idk if it gets a secret valued number or not

smoky vale
#

thats why they are highly valueable

lavish dome
#

does anybody have a working spear @ cursor macro??

#

all my previous ones are not working at all

smoky vale
#
#showtooltip
/use [@cursor] 376079
#

Does this work?

lavish dome
#

thats what i had

#

and i tried with cast sequence

#

not working

#

do get the tooltip to light up you have to use previous name "spear of bastion"

#

doesn't even register champ spear as spell

smoky vale
#

can you try the change i did

lavish dome
#

lights up

#

but dont work

smoky vale
#

im sorry i dont know then

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gg

#

@modest condor can you help this lad

#

por favor

wise wren
#

Is mountain thane thunder clapping the cheeks off of things still the best fury build for mythics?

inland flame
#

ye

smoky vale
#

happy

#

help

undone flower
#

yeah primary ressources are still secrets unless i missed an obscure UI bluepost

undone flower
smoky vale
undone flower
#

/cast ?

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and shift click in the spell book

undone flower
smoky vale
#

i tried that

#

but nada apparently

rare garnet
lavish dome
#

doesn't recognise it as a spell

smoky vale
#

the spell id i put is spear

dense elbow
#

#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] Champion's Spear

Works, can confirm

smoky vale
#

so use doesnt work but cast does

#

???

#

what a lovely game

undone flower
#

yes i used the macro from tww, still works

dense elbow
#

Do you also manage to jump to the spear tho, Happy?

rare garnet
undone flower
#

it changed the icon to heroic leap

dense elbow
#

Yep, it works for both of us then

smoky vale
#

which is spear

dense elbow
#

yeye, it changes icon

#

The macro works tho, confirmed x2

smoky vale
#

can you try the one i linked

undone flower
#

maybe it's just the /use making it weird

dense elbow
#

Sure

undone flower
#

it doesn't even show a tooltip

smoky vale
#

lol

dense elbow
smoky vale
#

gg

undone flower
#

#showtooltip
/use [@cursor] Champion's Spear
worked

dense elbow
#

Peer reviewed macro šŸ‘

smoky vale
#

in theory using a spell id works right?

#

or am i cooked

rare garnet
#

thank god, its sunday now my contribution for the week is done and i can go back to shitposting

smoky vale
#

and spell ids only works as a conditional?

rare garnet
dense elbow
#

peak macro tho

dense elbow
#

Cause I tanked a lot of bosses when randos did die

undone flower
rare garnet
#

checked infinite spell ids who knows whats wrong with champion spear

#

but text works

#

so dont matter

smoky vale
undone flower
#

kinda weird i thought it was just the wrong url since there is like 5 champion spear page but in game it's the same id if i use an addon to see

limpid tide
#

whats the d stance back to berserker stance macro

rare garnet
#

#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;[known:386164]!Battle Stance;[known:386196]!Berserker Stance

limpid tide
#

ty beast

oak peak
#

Is the void storm trinket any good? Like with the zone upgrades

#

Sims bad, but i wasnt sure if its worth it at all

waxen stratus
#

Would this be what you all were talking about with regard to a rage bar that displays differently if you're about to cap?

oak peak
#

Hmm possibly. So what does that do? Chance the color at a certain number?

waxen stratus
#

Yeah, I just tested it and it changes the bar at each threshold.

loud field
#

šŸ‘‹

#

hey fury chat wazzap

oak peak
loud field
#

it is

#

if you look at the top

#

idk anything about arc ui otherwise i'd help sadge

waxen stratus
loud field
oak peak
#

Very cool. I’ll look into that!

graceful rapids
#

I deleted arc ui but I might get it back now

young swan
#

people are finding out about my tech....

#

arcUI is very broken

#

nobody use it so i can continue to enjoy it

nocturne bluff
#

What is considered "good" Fury ST dummy DPS

#

I'm at like 34-35k

young swan
#

sim ur guy using the dummy option and compare

nocturne bluff
#

I wish that were the silver bullet

#

Many talent loadouts to test

#

i'm wondering which is parsing highest rn

#

feel like icyveins is outdated

young swan
#

nothing is parsing anything rn

#

literally nothing matters rn

nocturne bluff
#

Ii mean, fair point, but i'm wondering what numbers some of you are seeing

young swan
#

u just wanna build muscle memory

winter shoal
#

Build muscle memory just to have to rebuild it on the 17th sadge

nocturne bluff
#

The reason i'm so skeptical about sims is that the dmg makeup is still not reflecting reality... 28% just bloodthirst/bath

young swan
#

check the drop downs

#

notice how reap is mysteriously missing

smoky vale
#

what da reap

nocturne bluff
#

Ahh so reap is included in bloodthirst/bath dmg

young swan
#

and execute, yes

#

execute also includes deep wounds

nocturne bluff
#

interesting

#

cuz this is what my ingame breakdown is. It is still a bit odd that rampage is only 10%
on sim

winter shoal
#

Keep in mind dummy sims don't have any raid buffs active, including battle shout

nocturne bluff
#

Oh true. I forgot to add bshout. I was only testing solo

winter shoal
#

Doesn't affect damage breakdown really, but does affect raw numbers

silk wharf
#

Also no normal execute.

young swan
#

why is my arcui rage bar blue man 😭

winter shoal
young swan
#

what is wrong with this addon

winter shoal
silk wharf
young swan
winter shoal
young swan
#

ok i fixed it

winter shoal
#

And AFAIK arcui is the only addon doing that

young swan
#

arcui is lowkey the goat

silk wharf
#

I couldn't stand arcui not having a baseline that made sense. It needed to be micromanaged for every spec and alt I wanted to play.

winter shoal
#

No centered buff icons is a nonstarter for me idk

brittle crow
#

default ui + cdm centered is the goat

hot shell
#

I vote for default ui + sensei class bars

nocturne bluff
#

Does Arcui come with presets? I don't feel like learning a really complex addon rn

spare steppe
#

Wowhead is recommending (in ST) TC during avatar having higher prio than rampage, but sims aren't using TC at all during avatar (unless its TB). Is it just the sims not being updated yet?

undone flower
winter shoal
#

Not for dummy sims

undone flower
#

okok i didn't know

low folio
#

holy man i just learned how long ill have to wait to do m+. basically gonna be doing nothing for multiple weeks waiting for that to come out

winter shoal
#

Play poe

#

Endgame changes very poggers

floral frigate
#

any clue with bloodmallet will be avail for us?

#

when i mean

spring pumice
#

Or level alts

winter shoal
#

But also bloodmallet is just kinda worse than simming your own character

summer quail
#

bloodmallet is good for getting a general idea of what is good. useful website but shouldn't be followed blindly

floral frigate
#

its nice for trinket compairing

calm island
#

does whirlwind apply rend like thunderclap

floral frigate
#

no

hot shell
#

We wish it would sadge

fringe vale
#

at what ilvl do we start swapping gear?

#

im full mythic from last expac

#

boots and cloak do we replace at a certain ilvl or do we have a belt like situation here?

hot shell
#

Personally i replaced all my stuff once i got gear at around iL 190. For cloak a 240 cloak sims better for me, so im p sure itll be replaced by s1

fringe vale
#

tysm

marsh wagon
#

is it worth macroing avatar,reck, and odyn's fury together? or is there a downside im not seeing

fringe vale
#

mmm

modest condor
#

avatar and reck yes, odyns no

fringe vale
#

idk of iot still like before but ava reck when in combat not pre pull without odyn

marsh wagon
#

gotcha, do they not line up consistently?

modest condor
#

they do right now but not with tierset

#

also there will be times where you want to reck/ava but not odyns and vice versa

marsh wagon
#

ooooo that makes sense thank you

modest condor
#

actually nvm they dont because of AM

feral ivy
#

careful of wowhead.. ads are crashing the site and ppls computers

rare garnet
#

Propaganda

brittle crow
#

internet unusable without one

rare garnet
#

Yeah without blocker I probably just uninstall internet.exe

marsh wagon
#

So what do you do when you need to use a personal def in a mythic dungeon if we are not taking enraged regen. Stance swap?

feral ivy
brittle crow
#

(on chrome)

keen kindle
#

Nice, nice

earnest canyon
# young swan bountiful m0 clear

Is that champion trink actually any good? On my mage and hunter, it sims terrible compared to even adventurer trinket maxed out, but i dont know if its just impelemented wrong

brittle crow
#

so haranir just came out so they prob wont do race change discounts any time soon huh

#

i want one

earnest canyon
young swan
#

thank u

unborn delta
young swan
#

my friends demo lock is 6 ilvl lower and sims literally 50% higher

young swan
#

shit makes no sense

brittle crow
#

demo will be deleted soon

#

aff will take over as the raid spec

unborn delta
#

Warlock 2-spec class incoming

brittle crow
#

destro will be 2% below in raid and 4% ahead in m+

#

demo will be 7% behind in both

unborn delta
#

They will remove the demons from demonology

#

ology warlock

earnest canyon
#

Is it just another week of m0 on reset?

mortal ivy
#

Yes

#

2 weeks of preseason

hushed gust
#

Honest question. why was Rend never bound to Whirlwind for us? it would make Slayer feel much better that way, and it's not like that would be an issue, because Mountain Thane already has the same thing with Thunderclap.

brittle crow
#

šŸ”®

#

no telling why

mortal ivy
brittle crow
#

its not bound to whirlwind for the other specs tho

#

idk why fury would be different

hushed gust
mortal ivy
#

I don’t play thane

hushed gust
#

i was more saying that your statement kinda goes without saying. i have a habbit of being indiret sometimes.

mortal ivy
#

Oh got ya

keen kindle
#

Fury is basically the only warrior spec that uses WW rotationally usually

#

I think arms uses it in very fringe cases in raid cleave situations? And even then it's not a huge gain to my understanding

#

and prot just has better buttons

reef laurel
#

in ST we just use WW for filler

#

so almost never

hushed gust
reef laurel
#

bc thunderclap applies it regardless of hero tree, but MT relies on it

#

it's just not needed in slayer

strong monolith
#

I havent pressed rend a single time since Ive had it

reef laurel
#

you should, unfortunately

strong monolith
#

Nah Im good.

summer quail
#

play thane and you will never have to

reef laurel
#

it's a dps increase so we use it now, not my favorite either

strong monolith
#

If wanted to rend, I'd play arms

#

I will stand by that.

reef laurel
#

you do you

graceful rapids
#

wa

hushed gust
#

I appreciate you, and I should have stated this in a different way from the beginning., Rend feels awkward to me in Slayer Multitarget. Having a button like Whirlwind apply the bleed or something else, like giving Thunderclap access to whirlwind stacks baseline, could help the feel. No, I’m not really gonna be picky as to which one should happen.

I just wanted to express the awkwardness of the button in that scenario.

reef laurel
#

It's definitely awkward for rend to be a button for fury

strong monolith
#

Now if it was an off gcd then sure. But It doesn't belong.

hushed gust
#

My sims showed it was only 1% of my DPS, so it feels negligible for now. I feel it’s comfortably possible for someone to complete an M+ 10 without using it and not throwing too hard.

strong monolith
#

Thats what Im gonna do.

#

That button has no place on my bars.

#

Ill clear raid without it too.

reef laurel
#

My current ST sim shows it at 1.8% so yeah, but still dmg

#

to put it in perspective raging blow is 2.7%

#

(not crushing blow)

mental lake
#

Thats not a perspective at all. u have to ask how much damage u could do in those globals u use for rend instead of pressing rend

reef laurel
#

We're discussing sim

#

if I take rend out I lose 500dps on ST sim

hushed gust
reef laurel
#

in MT it's less neglible

#

multitarget * I realize MT here might sound like thane

#

you def want to send it in keys

#

if slayer

edgy widget
reef laurel
#

Im sure once I get proper stats

#

only referencing my own sim

edgy widget
#

though it does grow in value with larger pulls, so if you're making really huge pulls, it starts becoming more worth

strong monolith
#

Incoming Fury set bonus that involves rend

#

*slayer set bonus

hushed gust
#

S1 is OF cdr, so we at least got the one season be for that hits.

median umbra
#

if they made rend not feel like a wet noodle to press I would find it less annoying

strong monolith
#

If I remember it doesn't even generate rage right?

#

I seriously haven't even looked at it in the tree.

tacit relic
#

I literally joined to ask if my eyes were telling me the truth that we have to pay double sparks for weapons

strong monolith
#

4

#

I made my bracers instead

tacit relic
#

4 and then hope for a weapon drop elsewhere

#

I’m gagged

fast mural
#

Cause you don't need to combine them anymore

reef laurel
#

its not double, we get whole instead of fractured

fast mural
#

Cause no valorstones

reef laurel
#

^

fast mural
#

It's effectively the same

reef laurel
#

its easier overall

tacit relic
reef laurel
#

we got fractured sparks before

#

they cost 250 valorstones to combine

#

needed 4 fractured for 2 sparks for a 2h

fast mural
reef laurel
#

now we just get whole sparks with no combine cost

#

so 4 sparks

#

same timeline for acquiring them

tacit relic
#

So, is the general consensus, 1 crafted/1 loot drop

fast mural
#

Are bis lists out yet ?

tacit relic
#

Wow head has one but idk how reliable they are

fast mural
#

Very
since it's probably archi who did it

tacit relic
#

Says BiS is 2 raid drops

fast mural
#

I would wait till heroic week if it gets updated I think embellishments got buffed last minute

tacit relic
#

Thanks for your help guys!

strong monolith
#

Hey man enjoy fury!

#

Its so much fun.

hushed gust
#

Always happy to share the communal brain cell. Just don’t go losing it.

primal mauve
#

Yo, with apex talents, rampage cost less during recklessness, but what happens with the talent that reduces avatar and recknessless cd, does it reduce it as if I did spend 80 rage (the usual rampage cost) or as if I spent 50 rage (the apex talent version).

Also wouldn’t that means that while we have some damage buffs, we get avatar etc a bit later than usually?

hushed gust
#

This is entirely feel, but it seems adjusted to not really matter. It’ll still be a 40-ish second CD like previous.

primal mauve
#

How do this work if for 15 seconds you spend less rage than outside of that CD?

hushed gust
#

You get slightly less refund per Rampage while the cost reduction is active.

But again, they adjusted for that so you can kind of just ignore the micro there.

primal mauve
#

What did they adjust this is still a time loss that would be noticeable if you use burst on cd ?
During Recklessness you get 2.5 sec for each rampage, versus 4 sec for each without apex talent

#

This surely cannot be ignored? Like it’s not anything minor or maybe I see problems where there isn’t

hot shell
#

Dont combine things that dont need combining.

AM is 1s reduce per 20 rage spend. If rampage costs 80 rage its 4s. If it costs 40 rage its 2 seconds. If it costs 20 rage its 1 second

#

How you spend it is up to you. Technically you can get the reduction even from thunderclapping, nothing to do with rampage

primal mauve
#

So if it cost 50 it’s 2.5 sec ?

hushed gust
#

It’ll roughly be the same give or take a second or two at most.

edgy widget
primal mauve
#

I mean, do you really compensate because rage generation is quite high during it anyway? And it’s still 4 sec vs 2.5 sec, you would need to do atleast twice the amount of rampage you were doing before, and it’s not like you only want to press Rampage, it’s like you are forced to press rampage to make the most of it

hushed gust
#

Tell ya what. Go noodle around on a target dummy, and see for yourself. Seems you’re focusing a bit too hard on the singular element,

hot shell
#

Thane is clap > ramp > clap > ramp ect ect
Slayer is bt > ramp > bt > ramp repeat.
You dont lose anything

reef laurel
#

šŸ‘€

primal mauve
#

Sorry I guess

reef laurel
#

nah

hot shell
# primal mauve Sorry I guess

I mean i can see where u are coming from, but in the end the rage spend during reck is about the same as you did before apex. Its just that you press rampage more often than filler buttons now

signal falcon
#

If so how should we play

strong monolith
#

Dont press rend

#

Ever

#

What an awful button

hot shell
#

Press rend while tank is gathering mobs okayge

strong monolith
#

Having Arms bleeding into Fury. So gross.

hot shell
#

that was blizz sorry try to give us something "uncapped"

signal falcon
#

For being an ā€œiconicā€ class spell

#

I can’t really think of any iteration of warrior where I thought it was remotely cool

#

Surely there was something cooler they could bring back

hot shell
#

it was cool in classic and in arms pvp

signal falcon
#

Classic like Vanilla?

#

Because I remember not even pressing it because it was so weak

hot shell
#

u were just busy spamming sunder armor

wild plank
#

Only used when fighting a rogue

junior gale
#

Rend was unbelievably bad in vanilla. It did not scale with anything so was a dead button unless you are fighting a rogue

hot shell
#

Which was the case 95% of the open world time which makes rend great

junior gale
wild plank
#

He's not wrong

fast mural
scenic belfry
#

should i replace tumor with erratic Energies?

edgy widget
#

you can sim trinkets, but Crucible caught a heavy nerf the other day, so it's dropped quite a bit

scenic belfry
#

kk,ty. Is dungeon slice still preffered for m+ and patchwork for pure ST?

edgy widget
#

haven't really put much effort into DS yet, but that or just 5t patch should work fine for trinkets

#

trinkets are pretty static these days

scenic belfry
#

šŸ‘

wild plank
#

The rings from Nexus seem pretty bonkers, or am I imagining things?

scenic belfry
#

ok crazy. The heavy nerf of crucible makes it completely bad for my gear. In m+ ST or 5 targets, even with Slayer ST

azure wolf
#

hey guys. should i save these two sparks to craft a weapon when s1 starts? whats everyone doing with this?

hollow leaf
#

Depends ig, 6/8 dungeons has a weapon that can drop for you in vault so chances of getting a wep are decently good. Weapon is usually a pretty safe craft since it's often the most damage you can get from a craft but rn might as well just hold until more info

azure wolf
#

Pretty much exactly where my thought process was. Thanks man!

chrome night
#

What is optimal after the tier sets? Slayer or mt?

radiant plank
#

what content?

spare helm
#

Hey peops im fairly new to Warrior specificly Fury
Started with Midnight
Been playing DH mostly now Fury bc its acctually fun and enjoyable and i wanted to ask how Fury performs in M+ and Raid šŸ¤” in M0 i perform fairly okayisch i would guess

Here a little question with weapons choice.....
Do we craft a weapon once M+ hits to get it towards with Mythic Ilvl or craft wrists/cloak and auch

radiant plank
#

if you dont loot mythic weapon from vault or raid you are better off crafting

spare helm
#

So wait 1st vault if no weapon craft it šŸ¤”
And maybe craft a second mythic lvl?

pale lava
spare helm
#

I wont run mythic raid somewhat soon id think

spare helm
#

Im a simple man

pale lava
spare helm
#

Is there a special race we would want to have šŸ¤”
Been playing the mag Orc thingy the racial seems atupdily strong

pale lava
radiant plank
#

if u care about dps play diapergnome / void elf

little dome
#

Hi guys im quite new to like buying bis gear for new characters and im gonna start a tauren warrior on wow classic tbc for the first time ever and was wondering what weapon i can mail him that will be good for a new character

#

oh sorry this isnt classic chat

undone flower
#

Fortunately no

little dome
#

think that discord is dead tho haha

spare helm
pale lava
radiant plank
#

mechagnome will fall off by .1 patc

#

already is since its competing with velf (and panda with primary stat food)

bleak harness
#

Yo everyone , how much do you press rend st/aoe , i think that after the burst we get out first press ? Feels annoying…

pale lava
pale lava
#

for AoE, it's pretty high prio as it does a lot of damage

bleak harness
#

Do you open with it than , cause in recklessness its for sure not worth ?

radiant plank
#

dont press it in opener

#

you press it after reck is over and your prio list hits that rend part

bleak harness
#

Got it , thanks

pale lava
radiant plank
#

you could also not press rend at all :)

radiant plank
#

not pressing rend at all is less of a dps loss than swapping your race from an haranir to velf

bleak harness
#

Well , in early progression everything helps and i personally like to min max , so even thou i hate rend i press it šŸ˜“

fast mural
#

Once in a new moon

#

Blue moon?

chrome night
radiant plank
chrome night
#

oh ok ok ty

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i assume we still waiting for 17th march

radiant plank
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yeah

digital mauve
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Slayer is fine too for MT

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And way funnier

flat river
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slayer u always spinning

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or should i say

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"moving"

lean prism
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Does thunderclap proc rend still? I thought that’s why we don’t need to press rend?

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Sorry if dumb

flat river
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yes

main halo
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this is the spec we are plying now at max lvl?

oblique pond
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They have to change something about the talents or make enrage regen baseline because not talenting into it feels bad

main halo
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yeah, its a huge issue, we are pratictly without deff cds

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sacrificing the dmg we dont have to have a deff cd seems insane

rare garnet
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People really do hate stance swapping that much huh?

ripe shore
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Remember when we had to stance dance to use shield wall

flat river
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we dont have one

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fym

ripe shore
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Ah good times.

heavy dock
knotty lotus
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you lose more damage if you're dead

heavy dock
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real

knotty lotus
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that being said

heavy dock
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or you lose no dmg at all if we could press enraged regen

knotty lotus
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i hate stance swap

heavy dock
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but realistically speaking, when you play thane cant u drop this for enraged regen?

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it seems like a good thing to drop esp since thane barely presses rb

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oh nvm it seems its dropped anyway for the bottom execute node... well

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i mean eh atp im not that invested into actually playing m+/raid im spamming professions but if i had to lose like 0.5% dps to take enraged regen i would do it

native island
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Damn, bloodthirst hits like a truck

chrome night
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Is fury warrior in a good place to main this season?

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gameplay wise and everything

radiant plank
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yea

chrome night
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numbers will be tweaked

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but i want to find a new main

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coming from DK

sullen dove
radiant plank
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woow

unborn delta
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how did you level to 90 in 2 seconds šŸ¤”

ripe shore
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...I can't tell if that's bait or if you've not had your morning coffee

unborn delta
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someone check him pc

heavy dock
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Bro has no reading comprehension:(

ripe shore
main halo
undone flower
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Me when sponge

coarse nest
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After the two trinkets in silms sim is there a 3rd best for st anyone knows of?

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I know they’re still cooking waiting for changes

balmy shore
lusty stratus
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Fury-wise, do we have any idea what kinda trinkets we want to start aiming for?

radiant plank
fading sky
rare garnet
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Kek

balmy shore
verbal steppe
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How are u guys feeling with the dps, im teaming up with a bunch of friends and they are all paladins and warlocks, and i cant get to their dps ffs

unborn delta
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Heart of ancient hunger

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Puzzle box being good makes me mad fck them 2 min trinkets

wild mural
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Fuck puzzlebox I’m not casting that shit

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I did my time in DF S1

wicked eagle
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Is there any reason to hold onto adventurer crests or can we send?

wicked eagle
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Nice one