fury

[delicate thicket]

not because of raid

[plain eagle]

Because I’m trying to maximize DPS

[echo rapids]

When was int last changed?

Did DH buff get changed in tww?

[undone flower]

Middle TWW if I remember

[halcyon pagoda]

I’m watching a mad ox video on fury rotation and there is a sims spreadsheet. Where can I find that?

[undone flower]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/august-19th-the-war-within-hotfixes-chaos-brand-and-arcane-intellect-nerfs-with-345937

[elder mulch]

Am I the only one whose World Tour quest is bugged?
(Salheril's Soiree)

[young swan]

yeah most of your aoe is made up by cleaving your ST abilities

[river nimbus]

yep

[young swan]

it was both

[young swan]

was working last night, abundance was bugged tho

[river nimbus]

all of the events are working now.

[plain eagle]

Thank you

Warrior is so fun. Started playing again after 10 years. Was always a caster. This time I wanted to go melee

[dense elbow]

Glad ya having a blast

[plain eagle]

Yeah also doing dumb things like wasting 230k gold on a transmog lol. Varuth Guillotine lol

[young swan]

yeah warrior def the most interactive melee

[young swan]

okay but thats a turbo banger mog

def worth it

[plain eagle]

Sooo coool looking

Don’t regret the 20 bucks for the wow token. Nicer then anything else in the transmog shop

10 years ago I would just farm gold and stuff but being a family man now my time is limited

[delicate thicket]

We feel this will help to improve the balance of caster heavy versus melee heavy groups when participating in non-raid content.

both?

[surreal token]

is the amani champion piece of gear available to get?

I'm looking at the vendor and he has no quest for me

[finite jetty]

No not yet

[young swan]

they can say that, but AI and DH disproportionately buffed more people than AP and MT

[finite jetty]

I hope at reset

[young swan]

dev notes are never comprehensive

just have to use ur brain a bit

[delicate thicket]

thats your interpretation. I don't believe for a second they nerfed those two buffs for raid and m+ purposes. that was just for m+

would like to see it for warrior/monk as well

[young swan]

its not my interpretation, its just the reality

AI buffs way more things than AP does

same with chaos brand and phys buff

[unborn delta]

who is we

[young swan]

its the dev note

[delicate thicket]

thats the bluepost

[young swan]

when they nerfed AI

and chaos brand

[delicate thicket]

sure

but you are not affecting raid balance by nerfing those

you have those buffs

but yeah im puzzled why attack power/phys specs are more hamstrung by composition than int/magic in m+

seems like an obvious change to me

[young swan]

I dont think nerfing AP and phys helps that really

its just a symptom of AI buffing healers

not much you can do to get around that

its just a broken buff

like mage will always be good for that reason and if u have mage u want dh and if you have dh you want 1 more magic dam dealer probably

if they make a healer that scales off attack power id bet warrior would look way better

[rare garnet]

But it’s the same right. If you have a warrior you’ll want a brew and if you have that you’ll want 1 more phys damage dealer

[void rose]

@oak peak did you find it?

[unborn delta]

but you dont want a warrior

[young swan]

not really, warrior meta relevance depends more on which tank is good

healer is more impactful to the groups success than the tank and theres only 1 spec that can buff them

[rare garnet]

Also Aug yeah?

[young swan]

aug doesnt buff the tank or healer in m+

[rare garnet]

Or do they not buff heals now

Ahh

[delicate thicket]

idk if I'd agree with that

but yeah im not saying this is some magic fix

I just think its better to have more freedom in group composition by having less powerful buffs

[young swan]

im saying i dont think your fix is a fix at all

[delicate thicket]

it helps move the needle

[young swan]

making the relative power of our buffs weaker and not the others just disincentivizes playing our classes

[surreal token]

actually it is now

unless ur in EU

[young swan]

it technically opens up flexibility but not really cause the buffs are still there

[oak peak]

Got it figured out. Its bugged and awards it at renown 10 instead of 9

[finite jetty]

Yea

[surreal token]

need to do abundance quest intro, then pick up the abundance of wealth from the rep vendor

[young swan]

and as long as they're still there the inflexibility is as well

[finite jetty]

Eu pleb here

[surreal token]

rip

[delicate thicket]

idk it just very obviously helps move the needle

[young swan]

it wouldnt move the needle at all

it would be the exact same

[finite jetty]

So u can actually get the champ gear on all ur alts?

[delicate thicket]

why did you say it technically opens up flexibility

[young swan]

if u want actual change you bring back buff scrolls or remove raid buffs

[delicate thicket]

man

[young swan]

from a conceptual standpoint there is more flexibility, but no one will care

[delicate thicket]

buff scrolls are like reducing the value of the atk power buff

?

[young swan]

they also make it so that phys comps can give the healer AI

[delicate thicket]

sure

[young swan]

which is way more important than giving a tank and a dh AP

[rare garnet]

Either way, we just got out of a season where prot was king, fury was 3rd highest melee with DK and Havocs running rampant and an abundant “waste” of buff stacking so I’m not sure I buy how exponentially required it is

That bshout be 3%

[young swan]

wasnt even 3rd highest melee

[delicate thicket]

I just think it would be a good change

[young swan]

ret still had better representation

[finite jetty]

Wait on the 17th trust

[rare garnet]

Is this the wrong one?

If we’re talking meta and class stacks we’re talking title right not gen popularity?

[delicate thicket]

ya

[young swan]

ah this wasnt out when i was looking a lil bit ago

[wet pendant]

hi guys could I please get some advice, surely my gear is not best optimized but I sim 37,126 DPS on ST as slayer, 228 Itemlevel vs my guildie demo warlock in AOE spec 224 ilvl sims 53,557 DPS ST - I am a bit loosing my mind ? I have a decent ammount of haste - any oppinions on this ?

[mossy pelican]

Pray for s1 tuning

[echo rapids]

Demo lock is turbo busted and headed for a bit ST nerf in a few weeks

[wet pendant]

20k difference tho? is that normal ? does fury scale that hard with gear ?

i have 2x 230 ilvl weapons even and the best trinkets i could get

[mossy pelican]

Sometimes you do everything right and still lose

[echo rapids]

It’s just overturned

Nothing is balanced right now

[young swan]

demo is overtuned

[autumn glacier]

Look at it in aoe lol. On archon (For the beta) right now destro warlock is doing 215k and slayer fury isdoing 159k

[flat river]

Yo Xan can i send my questionnaire here, it's for my thesis and i need at least 150 responses

[echo rapids]

Druid of the claw bear tank does almost regular damage dealer single target

[young swan]

u could link it in #promotion if u want

[flat river]

Ok

Done :3

Ty <3

[gleaming crag]

rings are set

[rare garnet]

Sorry I’m too old to respond you ageist fuck.

[flat river]

u can still respond just put either 18-24 or 25-29

xd

[rare garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-gif-5239046

[rugged sphinx]

is the dps faq been updated for midnight yet? just see stuff about s3 of tww

[flat river]

[rare garnet]

Not that it helps much but our pre tier apl seems a little suffer mode for getting juicer sims at the moment

I believe in the 17th

[fleet heath]

has the champ renown gear been released? neck/head/waist

[undone hearth]

is fury looking good for for m+?

[rare garnet]

Better than arms

[lean osprey]

Idk I had a friend able to get the head yesterday

[young swan]

not yet, no

[undone hearth]

i thought it was meta, the mood here is the same on ret pally disc lol

[young swan]

wowhead and maxroll are both updated tho

[young swan]

def not

[marble pilot]

Its the same as it has been for seasons. Good 5 target cleave good st. Will be behind on mass aoe

Still tanky.

Still has shout

[undone hearth]

cool

[marble pilot]

Gameplay hardly changed at all. Bt>RB and execute on cd is all thats really changed

[rare garnet]

Is the paladin mood good?

Or is ours bad

[undone hearth]

nice, i'm doing some catch up here

[undone hearth]

i would say it's a skeptical mood

[unreal crane]

is unity against the void weekly bugged?

[unborn delta]

i put i was 60 and love ai

[flat river]

[rare garnet]

I fed the survey through GPT and had it answer instead

[sullen dove]

W

[dapper goblet]

tfti

[rare garnet]

Huge

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-meme-black-black-guy-bruhh-gif-11584017571281850768

[rare garnet]

Rip shout

[compact knot]

did a m0 world tour

got 3 trinkets

hmm

[sudden tusk]

man speaking nonsense

[sullen dove]

what is zawg wafflin about

[sullen dove]

kazum is def a slur

yep

[sudden tusk]

bebops about to get buffed

silver about to get shot

[echo rapids]

Got a 5 plate stack with guildies set for tomorrow rubs hands

[flat river]

guys can anyone do the legend of haranir thing

i cant for some reason

the quest isnt showing

do i need a certain amount of renown?

[glad coyote]

anybody know if we can craft a pvp 2 hander?

[sullen dove]

im kinda getting a loot injection here

5 useable pieces in 7 dungeons not bad yea

[torpid fossil]

so are we crafting 2h weapon or like a bracer or something?

[spare steppe]

See #updates-midnight

[orchid iron]

you need 4 sparks for a weapon now btw, dont go getting too excited

they got rid of the two halfs plus valorstones thing but "doubled" reqs

im following Larias' guide and it always says not spend crests- is it talking about good crests or is the turbonerd way to save even the adventurer crests so you can upgrade them to veteran eventually?

[stoic kindle]

i mean theres no reason to use any pre raid/m+

[orchid iron]

yea sure, thats not what i asked

[stoic kindle]

its just to wait and upgrade the gear you dont have good pieces on from m0

[orchid iron]

👍

[glad coyote]

iirc at the start of last xpac there was a pvp weapon we could craft to help with dmg, anybody know if thats still a think?

[orchid iron]

wasnt it an achievement that gave you weapons

[halcyon pagoda]

Are there any public warrior sims comparing the specs and hero talents or is it secret tech?

[orchid iron]

like get 1500 conquest or something

[olive wraith]

I mean you can run the sims yourself? Pretty sure there was a ss though

[weak tartan]

Shadowguard delve is available when? I mean the alt leveling thing, how can I track what day will it be up to

im in eu

[rare garnet]

They should have removed titans grip and embraced classic single minded fury so I could craft a weapon. SMH my head. Out of touch devs.

Add 2h transmog and a talent in fury tree that doubles the stats on 1h weapons. We’re getting exploited with 4 sparks.

[halcyon pagoda]

If I get a chance tonight to create sim profiles using the bis set on wowhead I’ll setup a public link for reference

[tough escarp]

is anyone actually pressing rend?

[coarse nest]

In aoe yeah

Not worth the brain power in st kek

[rare garnet]

Psssst fk that button

[tough escarp]

it feels so awful to use

[rare garnet]

I’ll wait for tier and stats and APL updates but as it stands I’m not pressing Rend for 2% damage I would rather slam my pepper in a drawer

[echo rapids]

Blizzard: prunes good abilities from lots of specs
Also blizzard: adds rend to fury for no reason

[rare garnet]

Also blizzard: makes our first tier around fucking OF

[dense elbow]

Well, they wanted to remove it. But the pesky popularity of a certain Legion expansion and its gameplay success makes it a staple

Rend tho, kinda a weird add

[chilly sapphire]

They've tried to shove it down our throats of years, now they ain't backing off.

[tardy matrix]

I mean I kinda like rend but I'm also a slayer enjoyer for everything

ik thane is technically better for m+ but slayer tickles my brain better

[rare garnet]

17th patch, rend removed from class tree added to arms and prot tree. Trust.

[dense elbow]

"Take this perfect flat profile dam ability and like it damn it!"

The flat enjoyer devs at blizz HQ

[rare garnet]

I like flat

Earth

[tardy matrix]

All I want from 17th is for them to stop letting udk arcane and demo be terrorists

I'm more ok with DK tho

[celest hearth]

no vet pieces in weekly cache was that instended

[dense elbow]

Hm, what I want is 40-50% BS buff, with a 30-40 reap nerf

Oh, and make SD reap have an animation that isnt delayed

After that I am content for the season

Can do aura total buff/nerfs from there as needed

[tardy matrix]

I wish they'd separate bs and avatar but that's probably too op

[rare garnet]

I would love a juicer BS

[dense elbow]

wouldnt we all (with a couple of vocal exceptions)

[rare garnet]

Remove OF, put avatar there, make our set reduce BS cooldown. I wanna spin to win.

[dense elbow]

CDR is not the way

[dense elbow]

CDR is less potential power per press, not more

[rare garnet]

True but I don’t want OF and asking for a full redesign is harder than just swap what it works on. Not that either would happen.

[dense elbow]

Well, it is more likely they remove BS from Fury and grants us OF instead

It being the Fury signature ability

[rare garnet]

I doubt that with slayer existing they’re not remaking a hero tree

[dense elbow]

I could fix it in a day, so could they i have faith

[rare garnet]

And signature don’t mean much tons of “signature” things have been removed from lots of classes over the years

[dense elbow]

Or added

Like rend

[rare garnet]

Rend isn’t signature

It’s iconic

[dense elbow]

It is what dots the lines

[rare garnet]

I’m still convinced the 17 will be an absolute banger they’ve been cooking

[dense elbow]

Hm, it cant get much worse. So sure

Why not be hyped

[rare garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-x-files-i-want-to-believe-trust-issues-trust-gif-5016443

[dense elbow]

If they using data from the keys I am doing tho, Fury getting big nerfs

I need to do more no reap/bs runs

I dont AFK in HCdungs, feels unethical

[oak peak]

Just to clarify, we cant get coffer keys this week, correct?

[restive fiber]

Thunder Clap’s extra range does not affect targets with Rend ?

[sudden tusk]

@edgy widget did they actually leave that bug in

[spring pumice]

Do y'all have issues getting pug invited without brez or lust?

[odd crater]

This is where I ended up after my first World Tour

[wheat estuary]

How’s fury looking atm for m+ this season?

[modest condor]

cant tell because there's still tuning to come before the season starts

[tardy matrix]

SANDBAG

[dense elbow]

Meh, we can kinda safely say we are looking to be mid-high tier, that is fine and functional. Unlikely to become meta (if no mad tuning is done), yet you will be able to get title if you are commited enough. For midrange keys and weeklies, you will as always perform quite strongly and consistently, as Fury always have. Being a great slot for any team.

[tardy matrix]

What are you DOING

[dense elbow]

I am pressing buttons

[tardy matrix]

Stop that

[dense elbow]

ok

[tardy matrix]

We need buffs!

[dense elbow]

Yet, wouldnt it be funny if they try to nerf Slayer Fury, and thus Nerf slayer arms as well?

Worthwhile, no?

[tardy matrix]

People follow tierlists like they're gospel and they're 1 pull away from winning RWF as it is

If Fury falls any further then pugging will be even worse

[spring pumice]

Do y'all have issues getting pug invited without brez or lust?

[dense elbow]

Not at all

[modest condor]

how can you safely say that when some specs are doing literally double the dps of others?

[dense elbow]

Cause historically speaking, I dont expect to see that remain as such. Nor even if it is, do I expect Fury to be any worse off in a random PuG mid-high group

[tardy matrix]

Blizzard allows demo and arcane to be terrorists and nerfs arms to compensate

[modest condor]

ok but if the outliers at the top get overnerfed fury may suddenly be the best dps, or if the underperformers get overbuffed fury may suddenly be one of the worst specs

[dense elbow]

Fury will not go to the bottom, if they dont buff all under us, and yeah - come on

[modest condor]

we all know how random blizzard's tuning can be

[tardy matrix]

No no we don't need to be overbuffed. Give me solid but not excellent pls

[dense elbow]

Sure, but even so

it is very unlikely

[tardy matrix]

I don't want papa to look at me after seeing what they did to arms

[dense elbow]

I expect us to remain high-mid "tier"

What the kids call A or B tier

[tardy matrix]

I tried playing other classes. They're not fun.

They take my ungabunga I am doomed

[dense elbow]

Ungabunga is gone, you doomed

go play lock

Then doom others instead

Do even locks have curse of doom anymore?

I dont know

[earnest olive]

do we not have a defensive anymore?

[dense elbow]

We do, plently

Dstance, SR, VR and Rally

you can take FR if you feel it is needed, but the new stance mastery cowers most things if we dont hit some sort of DR req wall

[sharp patio]

am i crazy or fury is fun to play ?

[olive wraith]

What a hot take in the fury channel

[languid girder]

[modest condor]

both

[dense elbow]

You think Fury is fun because you are crazy

yep checks out ✅

[grand mica]

I have a dumb question but I been trying to push higher then 50k dps but I feel that its hard too

at level 90

I only have 7% haste I am wondering if that is the main issue

The spec just feels slow and sluggish with low dmg compared to other classes

[stoic kindle]

you get haste from enrage

we're just low geared lol

[grand mica]

I am keeping enrage up 95% or higher each fight

[stoic kindle]

were literally playing with blue gear

[grand mica]

yeah I know but mages and locks are doing twice as m,uch dmg

I am doing as much dmg on my BM monk

[stoic kindle]

gotta wait till 17th

[grand mica]

You mean got to wait for all the other classes to get nerfed

[stoic kindle]

no, gotta wait for arms to get nerfed

[grand mica]

Is arms that good right now I have not tried it

I never been a huge arms fan

[stoic kindle]

gapping every other dps

[grand mica]

I see

Ill have to give it a try then

I played it but just like fury more

[stoic kindle]

the gap is on the dps meters, like 30k between arms and the one above

[grand mica]

.... that is nuts

[marble pilot]

Isnt arms at the bottom by like a lot

Or am I bad at reading

[smoky vale]

no thats correct

[olive wraith]

Gear is meme rn. It should improve a little but we are indeed getting gapped by locks

Idk about mage but I always assume they have a big spec

[odd crater]

Having a blast with Slayer. World Tour complete, 237 iLvl now

[grand mica]

Is slayer doing better then MT

[undone flower]

What ilvl

Just to know how much is loser much

[smoky vale]

hasnt changed in 5 months man

[edgy widget]

TC/Rend were bugged like three different ways

probably not that important tbh, since TC itself does the majority of the damage

[grand mica]

Is are dmg low due to a bug then?

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-sunakook-tired-exhausted-gif-24687868

[undone flower]

Im sorry

[smoky vale]

no just tuning

[grand mica]

well as warriors are right now we are shit tier I feel

[ripe shore]

Which is the neck to grab for fury from renown 🤔 they just couldn't make it haste/mastery

[olive wraith]

The pretty one

[sullen dove]

@clever belfry

ohmygodim

[clever belfry]

i dont know what this means 👍

also its an unchristian hour

[smoky vale]

anda

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-im-blooming-omg-ım-bloomıng-zyox-zy0x-genshin-gif-12576582108205875214

[smoky vale]

i learned proving by induction yesterday

[clever belfry]

ok

what did u prove

[smoky vale]

that ```
1 + 2 + 3 + ... + n = (1/2)(n)(n+1)
sum i = 0 to n n^2 = (1/6)(n)(n+1)(2n+1)

[sullen dove]

massive

[smoky vale]

how do you do sumation on discord

wtf

[clever belfry]

bro did not set the brackets right

you dont

[smoky vale]

explode

[clever belfry]

not a thing

its just (n^2+n)/2

just write it like that

me when GAUSS

[smoky vale]

bro i just wrote down what my professor put on the board

🙁

[clever belfry]

well the way you wrote it is ambigouos

as 1/2n(n+1)

where is n(n+1)

on top or below

god knows m8

[sudden tusk]

IMBOUTTOBLOOOOM

[smoky vale]

better

IMBOUTTOBLOOOOM

[clever belfry]

ok i go bed now

gl

[sudden tusk]

[smoky vale]

gn

im blooming

[bitter palm]

nice subtle title flex

gio six seven

[smoky vale]

didnt even put on my enterprising hero

💔

[bitter palm]

[smoky vale]

i can fix that for you thouh

[tardy matrix]

too many numbers

this hurt the unga brain

[smoky vale]

@undone flower its my ilvl

[bitter palm]

not even 90 🥀

are u playing dk again

[smoky vale]

i went from 88 to 89

probably 💔

[bitter palm]

axaxaxa remember what happened last season bro

[smoky vale]

bro i held my friends hostage

and forced them to give me resil on warrior

brought that guy to sales with a brew

insta crank

[bitter palm]

fury was insane no

[undone flower]

Did you forget you already posted it ?

[bitter palm]

title flex

[smoky vale]

my level went up

!

ding

[bitter palm]

i guess bro

[smoky vale]

yeah but i was dk first because its what i was playing in raid

[undone flower]

You never know if it is genuine or brain dmg with the 5 7

[bitter palm]

wdym its gio five seven

[smoky vale]

????????????????

[bitter palm]

galastronk five seven

[bitter palm]

🥀

[smoky vale]

do we kill reap the storm

its done

[bitter palm]

gala57 bro

[smoky vale]

🥀 reap the storm

[undone flower]

You are not Camillax anymore ?

[bitter palm]

bro camillax got BRUTALLY mogged by giofiveseven the enterprising hero

[olive wraith]

Jeez what a cortisol spike

[undone flower]

Idk if I should rejoice that red is brown once more

[feral ivy]

slayer or MT in m+?

[spring pumice]

@undone flower what do you mean?

[undone flower]

He should have never been a dk in the first place

Stronkmon is better than him

[drifting pond]

giosixseven

[spring pumice]

Ah. Funny you say that, got my DK to 90 and wishing I did warrior first

[undone flower]

Tbf I did leveled a dk

But blood bc I like to suffer in m+

[hot shell]

MT for slightly higher dmg Slayer for satisfaction

[smoky vale]

why are you invading

@waxen vigil

[waxen vigil]

What

Is this spec 2h or dw

[feral ivy]

i already miss raider.io

[undone flower]

https://raider.io

[drifting pond]

what happen to rio

[feral ivy]

does it not work anymore?

in game?

[undone flower]

You just see S3 rio and raid prog

Something happened with NA reset ?

[smoky vale]

both

[feral ivy]

i turned off i.o because i thought it was on the ban list

[undone flower]

It was just making my game crash on prepatch day but it works for me now

Idk what is your ban list

[icy whale]

how do i properly sim my character? and what gear is bis? i installed simc but aside from that i forgot almost everything (5 year break). can someone send me the necessary links ? :D

[waxen vigil]

Explain the entire spec to me

Type out 60 seconds of rotation for me please . ?

[drifting pond]

warrior rampage boom boom

[smoky vale]

press bt on cd anything else doesnt matter

[tranquil wyvern]

which guide do u guys recommend to follow?

[smoky vale]

wowhead and icyveins are written by the same person

[olive wraith]

Bis lists are misleading. I think raidbots has a tutorial on how to sim

[drifting pond]

i know icyveins has a raidbots guide

[smoky vale]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-use-raidbots-and-run-character-simulations-6050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd7Z5Igv7ro
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/how-to-sim-your-wow-character-a-guide-to-raidbots

3 sources

[frail prism]

vers/mastery neck or crit/haste neck?

[icy whale]

thank you

[indigo arch]

Sim, but probably the haste

[frail prism]

i was thinking haste as well...

are sims even working right now?

[indigo arch]

Working for me so far

[tidal beacon]

can we viablly take rarmpaging ruin?

[frail prism]

crit/haste did sim higher by 200 dps

[grand mica]

around what dps are you guys getting for Singel target dmg

[frail prism]

shit

[grand mica]

Yeah, I am getting 25k-30k dps ST

On my warrior

I can do as much dps st on my BM monk

[frail prism]

yeah it's really really bad

[grand mica]

I really think its the lack of haste

[frail prism]

it does feel sluggish, but i remember this from season 1 of TWW i believe before ST was buffed

[grand mica]

I see, its almost not worth playing my warrior tbh

[noble pulsar]

getting shit on by my dk friends 🙁

[static rock]

Do we have a proper trinket tier list? Cause there's no point in looking at raid trinkets for another 2 weeks

[lavish flare]

Why is there such a gap? 5 ilvl difference does not make sense
I hit bloodthirst on CD and still get gapped by tanks/mages/dk

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tU4FWfcWVLcHS7XiPRmSWG
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5yPbnoJbuFPieWkhcDcukg

[grand mica]

Yeah its dumb

This is why I don't want to play my warrior ngl

Don't start with warlocks they are doing even more

[still flume]

Is there anyway to fit Enraged Regeneration into the Thane M+ build? Feels really bad not having that

[sullen dove]

can probably drop like massacre or something

if thats still talented on thane idk

execute pretty useless on thane

[cerulean junco]

is there a tierlist for all slot gear pieces? jsut coming back from 15 year hiatus and not sure how to progress gear once i hit 90

[still flume]

That is kinda what I was thinking

I'll try that

[olive wraith]

Uh no?

[vagrant jacinth]

Does anybody know why thunder clap sometimes decides to not apply rend?

[ionic hamlet]

how come talent guide doesnt take this talent?

[indigo arch]

Yea haste historically usually cranks s1 of a season

Guide probably isn't thinking about push keys just yet

You'll see if people take it soon enough

[sullen dove]

like only better than rb yeah lol

whats another 15% usable range

[olive wraith]

Difference is execute is still a good button press

[sullen dove]

its the second worst option

[olive wraith]

St

Only reason it’s not the case in aoe is because clap is broken

You’re still getting a lot of rage, and a bleed to amp when you press exe

Plus it’s pretty g damage

Far from useless

[edgy widget]

problem is during Reck it's really hard to actually fit Exe in your rota

[flat river]

archi do we spam rampage in reck

[rapid pike]

im cranking as slayer, is MT any good?

[edgy widget]

you don't really spam it, but you do use it frequently yes

[edgy widget]

Thane is real strong yeah, I think generally better than Slayer

[flat river]

i meant like whenever i can press it

[rapid pike]

hm ok, probably for targets that live longer yeah?

[edgy widget]

not explicitly; if you're in multitarget you really wanna keep TC on CD, and if you're in ST you really wanna keep BT on CD

[rare garnet]

Not using BT or RB except in reck makes so may dead globals

[edgy widget]

so in multi, you kinda go TC - Ramp - TC - Ramp - TC - BT - TC - Ramp - TC

and in ST, it depends on your rage gen, but it's kinda like - Ramp - BT - Ramp - filler - BT - Ramp - filler - BT
those fillers can be Blast, Exe, another Rampage, etc

I don't really like pressing Rampage back to back unless I'm near capping though; I find that if you Rampage at 50 rage down to 0, the rota gets muddled and you end up needing to use two fillers, then BT is back up at the same time Ramp is at max rage, etc

[olive wraith]

Who said to not use rb and bt?

[novel oasis]

I have a really dumb question what’s making bloodthirst hit for like 120k. Or have no cd?

[olive wraith]

Burst of power (thane hero talent)

[novel oasis]

Disgusting

[modest condor]

someone earlier today misinterpreted the guide to say bt/rb only used in reck

[olive wraith]

Oh good lord

[modest condor]

and they had a bit of an attitude with how they pointed it out

[olive wraith]

That’s something

Anyways, the claim I was disagreeing with is “execute is useless” for thane

Which afaik is very not true

[edgy widget]

yeah not true, just hard to fit in sometimes

[nova niche]

I also thought that and knew there was no way that was right lol

[edgy widget]

it's kind of a damned if you do/damned if you don't situation

someone is going to confuse it no matter what you put, while writing twice as many lines to clearly define bloodthirst v bloodbath is just as (if not more) confusing for others

[celest hearth]

are weapon enchants locked behind raid ?

or some other seasonal content?

[unborn delta]

You can buy them now but they are like 60k gold

[celest hearth]

lol the enchants for weapons is popping up under finger enchants tab not the weapon tab....weird

[weak tartan]

I have a problem where my global cooldowns not working properly, any reason why?

[edgy widget]

define "not working properly" ?

[hot shell]

Sounds like bad ping.
If youre in voidstorm during the event it also causes a server delay

[gilded pawn]

man i missed good content

this is hilarious

[upbeat reef]

Hey guys, looking to jump into midnight today, how is warr looking? Fury specifically.

[winter condor]

https://tenor.com/view/nahdog-gif-17900380376959797190

[young swan]

its pretty fun

[upbeat reef]

Awesome

Is it also good?

[odd crater]

I was holding my own in mythics, so I think it’s solidly upper mid tier

[upbeat reef]

That is the best place to be

Alright, thank you very much

[spare steppe]

Feeling dumb but with the apex talent during recklessness, is the priority for rampage still >100 rage or are we spamming as much as possible and then other normal button prio when we can’t

[fiery edge]

some mob killing side quests just have shitty drop chance

and spawn rate

[young swan]

like mid tier ish

solid for melee

[winter shoal]

Still high rage ramp > high prio rotational button > low rage ramp

But yeah especially with RA things get a little crowded during reck imo

Lots of competing priorities

[smoky vale]

can you still puzzlebox during charge

[young swan]

how would i know

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-ok-gif-2466171479878054943

[winter shoal]

I would doubt it

[smoky vale]

maybe you tested it on beta

[sullen dove]

oh yeah that trinks back

surely its not the best anymore

there has to be better alternatives

[summer quail]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-gif-10455738442136230044

[sudden tusk]

its not

its decent maybe okay for like M+ big pull timing

but our cds are too fast

[smoky vale]

waht about on 3:30 boss

[silk wharf]

is thunderclap outranging the rend application a new-ish thing?

Or have I not been paying attention?

[sudden tusk]

Idk theres no shot

[sullen dove]

fake news

[sudden tusk]

a 2min trinket is bis

even if it is

[sullen dove]

i mean we not that far off 2min class

[sudden tusk]

im not using that garbage again

[sullen dove]

like 45/45/45 is 2:15ish

so just hold trink for 15 sec

cluegi

[summer quail]

adds on every fight in raid. on use good for adds

madox you're gonna use it and like it

[smoky vale]

isnt box

3m?

[indigo arch]

Right when we get freed of using idol, they bring back puzzlebox

[summer quail]

it's 2m now gio. was 3m in df

[sudden tusk]

changed to 2m becuase UH dks were too op the third expansion in a row

[smoky vale]

gg

[summer quail]

any fight we run thane i can't imagine us not using box

[grim prism]

box again

[fiery edge]

da hell, hit renown 9 in silvermoon but the npc doesn't give the champ track helm

[sullen dove]

you have to do weekly event

quest tells you to do it

idk if you can get it if you already did event xd

[fiery edge]

dafuq

the weekly quest of silvermoon?

[sullen dove]

the soiree event

[fiery edge]

wut

[drowsy heron]

is that an old screenshot? cause this is what i see

oh wait yours is for M+

does the puzzle box still have that cast/channel shit?

[summer quail]

ofcourse

🙂

[unreal onyx]

Spam lvl 1 delves or run as high as possible to level?

(87 rn)

Or whats the best way to farm xp, already did the campaign

[drowsy heron]

Fuck puzzle box then

[sullen dove]

sidequests double purpose you prolly want rep to unlock the champ pieces of gear

so no reason not to knock some of those out

first time crafts in crafting profs rly epic too but since scaling is shit the higher u go prolly best to save that for like lvl 89

less combat u have to do when youre at your weakest

[chrome relic]

M0s worked out fine, still missing some slots but we're chillin

[rose rain]

Factions seem pretty pointless to level past the champion item tier? I seem to remember in past expansions there was incentive to max them out, but this time it looks like after the champion item its just maybe some profession knowledge and cosmetics.

[mossy pelican]

Can’t see delve quests on my alt help meee

[silk wharf]

You could also view it as a situation that some people can't be trusted to not exploit so we all lose.

[limpid tide]

whats the method for gear

[indigo arch]

I'm glad factions drop off after the champion piece

Doing side quests to level on alts to get rep putting me to sleep

[chrome relic]

do hard hunts, then m0s

fill out rest with heroic gear

[open mountain]

hard hunts give which ilvl?

[limpid tide]

in two weeks? lol

[chrome relic]

hard hunts are vet track

[hot shell]

My dear EU people
Do doodoodungeons work now

[chrome relic]

yeah just throw a shield on and you'll get insta queue

[woven heath]

That's probably ideal design. Players who want the gear are less likely to want the cosmetics. Meanwhile casuals who are into it have something to work towards.

[zinc python]

is seed of the devouring wilds any good for fury?

or mark of light

[winter condor]

Is there a list of old enchants to throw on gear for the time being until prices drop?

[silk wharf]

They just dont work, at all.

[winter condor]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-smoking-sadge-pepe-smoking-pepe-sadge-gif-16948267171533269841

[silk wharf]

Even though tey say nothing about not working.

[hot shell]

Dont use enchants until hero gear usually works well

[zinc python]

Ring enchants super cheap

Weapon enchants aren't too bad

I wouldn't chant anything else

Not like you really need the extra boost for anything now anyways

Mythic zeroes were kind of a joke

[hot shell]

Stocks crashed yesterday, cant afford enchants

[fiery edge]

how do you guys get the laten arcana thingy

[hot shell]

the what

[fiery edge]

nvm the fortified event quest

mfs be declining request in M0

[hot shell]

Youre not meta, mate

[fiery edge]

SONUV- you're right

[warped bone]

I actually have no clue now that Titan's grips is removed. Can you run 2h + 1h? Got 233 and 230 but only of one and the other 😄

[delicate thicket]

@warped bone

maybe you can equip a 1H but its worse. you just make your 2H look like 1H instead now

[warped bone]

Ye i know about the transmog. But wondered how worth it was to use 2h+1h if i have higher ilvl of those than any other combo. But I'll prob get another 2h soon anyway

[delicate thicket]

just compare the damage they do and the stats they have. probably needs to be a lot of ilvl @warped bone

[warped bone]

It already solved itself. Got another 2h from hunt cache \o/

[terse roost]

don’t do the the 2h + 1h equip, it will lower your damage + health

[wild plank]

goddamn is the weekly quest bugged if you choose the arcantina quests?

[west mango]

peak transmog addition

[stoic kindle]

no?

[wild plank]

I can't see the quest giver for the third quest and after exiting it reset to 0/3

[sudden tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1336786028328914954/k3dSL.gif

[wild plank]

[stoic kindle]

you buy the beer from the bartender then use it on players

then go back to silvermoon

[void rose]

So which zulaman neck do i choose?

Haste or mastery onE?

[potent thicket]

how did some lads already got renown 9 with singularity? 💀

[stoic kindle]

im 11

[potent thicket]

Man im slow

HOW

[stoic kindle]

play the game, no secrets to it

[fiery edge]

there are quests that gives 2k rep

[iron portal]

https://tenor.com/view/where-is-your-motivation-where's-your-motivation-wheres-your-motivation-vergil-vergil-dmc-gif-4153196228805105292

[fiery edge]

weekly i think

[potent thicket]

fair, finally got to 90 and gonna do sojourner voidstorm c:

[potent thicket]

where the dreams at, dead #cringe

[fiery edge]

wish this set was plate

[molten wing]

damn abundanced scammed me finished the event but got 0 of the currency for the vendor

[pearl sequoia]

yea its buggy

either 900 or 0

[iron portal]

Fair

[flat river]

its not?!

[fiery edge]

It’s mail

[flat river]

[ionic hamlet]

does using the adventure crests troll us in anyway?

no right?

[ashen ingot]

Hey, may i ask you what addon you are using to make the Charakter Panel Look Like Yours? Looks a bit Like elvui but i guess it isnt

[dense elbow]

Only crests that you need to care about how you use, are the HC and Mythic track ones

[ionic hamlet]

got it

[digital mauve]

How the leveling ? Slower than usual?

[pale lava]

is this trinket bad for us or is it just a sim "bug"?

reason I am asking is because I have trinkets at 230 that outsim it

[dense elbow]

It is slower after the release, but still overall kinda fast

You can dung spam as tank, go boss to boss, and you done in minutes

[stable stump]

What's the new rotation for fury slayer?

[stoic kindle]

you upgrade the trinket with the tower defence weekly and renown guy giving a weekly

those 2 give a currency to upgrade the void console

that upgrades the trinket

protocol of predation increases the crit amount

[junior gale]

Press your buttons a lot

[strange raven]

where is the info about sims being weird?

[pale lava]

I'll get it upgraded again and check if it gets any better

[pale lava]

there's no info on that, I just have a 230 trinket outsimming the 246 one

I was just asking if it's bad for us or if it's some weird sim thing happening

[strange raven]

i saw this thats why i ask

cause sims dont feel correct

[pale lava]

ah, I understand

[stoic kindle]

ah the sims already show the trinket as fully upgraded

default settings use tww consumables tho, gotta change that. boosted me up by 4k dps or so

[pale lava]

I have the midnight consumables selected, it's just weird to see it be a dps loss compared to a 230 trinket

[ornate coral]

Hello, should I spam bloodbath when it is highlighted?

Mountain Thane, avatar

[fading sky]

U should always spam it in s

T

[lone plume]

As mountain thane with a build that focuses on bloodthirst and thunderclap, can i for the most part ignore raging blow?

[fading sky]

Yes

Its low down in totempole

[ornate coral]

Should I always spam bloodbath even when it is not highlighted?

[lone plume]

Also powerful enrage vs frenzied enrage what the verdict for thane?

[delicate rock]

Are other classes just sim way to high or is our sim just low? buddy of mine sims 44k as frost with 215

[ornate coral]

So, spam bloodbath in single target?

[wet pendant]

i have seen mage warlock dk sim 60k at 228 ilvl i sim 38k at 228 as fury myself

[delicate rock]

oh boy.

[wet pendant]

yes this is very veeery concerning for me

i bought raidsbots sub yesterday specially to test this and i am horrified

[edgy oasis]

whats everyone using as a alternative to their class weakaura? I feel the ingame one lacks resource monitoring (i know there is one but its crap)

[south kayak]

Don't worry about that, there's gonna be a few tuning passes

[wet pendant]

i have never seen a double damage sim after go live retail in my entire life. no ammount of tuning would cover that unless the tuning of the content is final.

[south kayak]

I've seen that plenty of times

And tuning is definitely not final

They specifically made a post entailing when they'll do tuning

[wet pendant]

could u pls give a link here or in private pls 🙏🏼

[south kayak]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/no-class-tuning-planned-until-march-17th-what-to-expect-for-class-tuning-in-380495

[molten wing]

Archi said yesterday the sims are half done , so just wait till they are finished if you see the sequence or the opener of the sim its not really optimal

[rotund ginkgo]

lads if im reading correctly during reck we just spam rampage rigth?

highest prio cuz of apex stacking?

[delicate rock]

good to know, thanks for the info 🙂 !

[wet pendant]

I am separately concerned about the dps potential of the class overall. I have compared personal st dps to other classes. At this point I pray to god that its a me problem and not a class problem. A me problem i could fix a class problem not so much because I cant reroll.

[rare garnet]

Someone has to be at the bottom.

[fiery gyro]

hey guys, I just read this in the updates-midnight channel:
For Fury, Improved Whirlwind can currently be cancelled, which means Rampaging Ruin can be used effectively even as Thane. Just keep one normal Rampage keybind for hitting multiple targets, and use this macro purely for single targets. Note that this is a bug though, and will be fixed eventually.
#showtooltip Rampage
/cancelaura Whirlwind
/use Rampage

what is that bug? is rampage doing less dmg in ST if we have whirlwind buff?

[median umbra]

the talent Rampaging Ruin changes how rampage works when the whirlwind buff is active, making it less effective in single target

the macro is just to use either version of rampage on demand

[fiery gyro]

gotcha, thank you

[unborn delta]

i got 2x of the same veteran ring from the prey rewards this sucks

[fading sky]

We have sims about 96, only outliers are a lot higher

[pearl cloud]

Worth crafting anything with sparks this week? Or wait till next week for weapon?

[hardy shuttle]

You dont want to waste rage because of the apex. You rampage whenever you get to like 100+ rage

[unborn delta]

for fury wait for sure

[fading sky]

For arms wait🥲🤣

A year

[pseudo violet]

Bloodthirst/Bloodbath > Thunderclap > Execute in rotation?

[rotund ginkgo]

DURING Reck though

you're able to spam rampages

which lets you get up to 5 or even 6 stacks of apex

[rancid socket]

Do we still thunder blast before bloodthirst in aoe or is that really only during avatar? Is the assumption you're hitting it every 5th button anyways so watching stacks doesn't matter?

[echo rapids]

Welcome to thane

[hardy shuttle]

Its the same concept

[pseudo violet]

I feel like im hitting it more than every 5th hit

or should I not be

[hardy shuttle]

The apex doesnt affect rotation at all. And both bt and bb are above rampaging in prio unless youre about to overcap

[pseudo violet]

im amazed rend is even on the list

[rotund ginkgo]

??

[pseudo violet]

I've never had to cast it

[rotund ginkgo]

3. rampage over 120 rage OR DURING RECKLESSNESS

which means during reck its above the priority for even bladestorm

so either im reading this wrong or you are

which is why i asked

@edgy widget should know best tbh

[hardy shuttle]

I might be, but idk rampaging to low rage historically is where a lot of dead spots happen

[rotund ginkgo]

or @young swan

[rotund ginkgo]

you cant run out of rage during reck

[obtuse palm]

Quick question, when I get Bloodbath procs (you can use 3 times in a row), should I use them to get it on CD even if 1) rage capped 2) 2 stacks of TB ? depends if ST or MT I guess ?

[rotund ginkgo]

rampaeg costs like 50 rage there

does bonus damage

gives u bonus strength

[marble pilot]

The cost is reduced during reck so it is less common

[warm crag]

@young swan opinion on quest ogre #4815 using ashkandur (mythic)

[rotund ginkgo]

u can literalyl rampage like 4 times in a row

[viscid gazelle]

is rend a thing to mantain even in st?

[rotund ginkgo]

in slayer i dont think so

idk

[marble pilot]

It's like second lowest prio.
Sims only had like 64% uptime

[static loom]

It's about a 1-2% dmg increase to use rend optimally

[marble pilot]

Thane it's always up cause tclap applies it

[rotund ginkgo]

ye

[viscid gazelle]

I see, thanks for the insight 👍

[marble pilot]

Rotation stuff can easily change before raid as well. Who knows how extensive the 17th tuning pass will be

Till then keep ww buff active and vibe in m0s lol

[pseudo violet]

true

[median marsh]

the thing in eversong, i am on 40% cleaning, but i cannot progress anymore, someone have this issue?

[upper dew]

You're missing some stuff

There are bits upstairs in the building

Wine glasses are bugged, But there is enough other bits to finish

[rotund ginkgo]

do we have spell reflect addon yet or?

[void rose]

You guys prefer thane or slayer for open world stuff?

[dense elbow]

Col

[fiery edge]

eventhough thane is better, i still like slayer

[oblique thistle]

I like slayer personally

But either is fine

[fiery edge]

does slayer even press rb in aoe

[smoky basin]

Bladestorm is great for trivial content. You can press it and take a drink or change your video in your second monitor

Gotta be slayer

[oblique thistle]

Yeah and sometimes you just get like 2 slayer strikes in a row and delete whatever youre fighting instantly

[dense elbow]

Prob should just press WW

[fiery edge]

rend and ww should do better at aoe as slayer

[oblique thistle]

Rend does decent dam in aoe as slayer as long as you pay attention to it

Its not like youre pressing rb anyways

So you might as well hit it

[fiery edge]

ye i find it does pretty decent dam, but it needs better animation and sfx

[oblique thistle]

For sure

The animation looks ok

[fiery edge]

it sounds like you're stepping bugs

[oblique thistle]

But the sfx could be a bit more visceral

[valid pulsar]

what i do is if nothing else is ready except rb you press rend and if rend is already up you just ww in aoe thats what i do at least

and in st i think even wrecking throw has higher prio than rb 😄

and rend as well before you rb

[oblique thistle]

Yup

Wrecking throw over rb is honestly hilarious

[fiery edge]

shit looks funny af

[tight roost]

so does rend need to be applied to multiple mobs in slayer aoe or how does it work now?

[valid pulsar]

it strikes all targets anyways

[tight roost]

oh lovely

[oblique thistle]

Yup just one press and you good

[tight roost]

tab dotting is the worst

[fiery edge]

[tight roost]

i admit ive only played thane so far so hadn't really looked at it

[fiery edge]

well if you like mountain king

[brittle crow]

mcdonalds six seven burger

!!!

[remote bobcat]

What

[brittle crow]

six sevennnnn

[valid pulsar]

Its 2,50€ in my region

[remote bobcat]

🫴
🫴
67

[valid pulsar]

💀

[young swan]

pongers

[fickle bluff]

man i wish uk maccas wasnt so expensive...

[remote bobcat]

Man i really dislike the british calling it maccas

[fickle bluff]

MACCY D'S

[remote bobcat]

well i suppose its still better than the brainrot of the french

[winter shoal]

fr*nch

[fickle bluff]

hop off the goat Bob L'éponge

[winter shoal]

please censor yourself kronzo

there are children here

[remote bobcat]

You right you right

[winter shoal]

actually nvm discord age policy

[fiery edge]

even critcake is playing uh dk

[oak peak]

is the best gear delves drop right now just adventure?

[ripe hinge]

What's the best way to farm veteran crests as m0 world tour only gives 80/200. And preys are also limited

[rare garnet]

Good question

[trail drift]

I think most of the weekly box quests gave me veteran quests

I’m already over 100 and only did 2 M0s

[ripe hinge]

Got none from that, I think only adventurer

It's written delve t5-6 but maybe there is another solution than spamming those

[trail drift]

Hard Prey gave 20

[unborn delta]

each hard prey gave me 10 vet crests, pinnacle caches gave adventurer

you want to do 8x m0s anyways though and that will give all the vet crests you need i thnk

[brittle crow]

those bitches made me pay taxes

seven twooooo

[olive wraith]

Mr Beast?

[remote bobcat]

<@&257983573498265600> free money

[undone venture]

Its a scam ban this guy

[olive wraith]

Hell ya I just got my vip pass to beast land amusement park

[remote bobcat]

i just got 1000 bucks cool

[remote bobcat]

nah ur lying u just havent tried it 🗣️ 🔥 💯

[valid pulsar]

sure man as if anyone would give away free money these days 😄

hell no

[olive wraith]

Bro I wish I got a 1000 instead of my beast park pass

Can we trade

[undone venture]

About me makes sense

[remote bobcat]

🫴
🫴

[unborn delta]

i got like

hella money

[digital mauve]

because fury is bad?

[fiery edge]

is mid

n

aight

[digital mauve]

and unholy is wonderful?

[unborn delta]

unholy giga stronk

136k st dps vs our 96k

but maybe blizzard balances game on the 17th

[smoky basin]

I'm pretty sure crit is just playing dk as an alt

Don't panic

[dense elbow]

Dont think we need to worry about sandbagging

[coarse nest]

(Friends image)

Nerf fury

Heroic week op

[warm crag]

yup

[sinful spoke]

is there a list of which sidequests give rep for the renown

[smoky vale]

just do everything

[unborn delta]

the sidequest reward will have renown in it

if it gives renown

most sidequests give 10 or 50 then the final quest in the chain gives 250

[sinful spoke]

aight ty

[rare garnet]

APL broke robit lie fury good nerf now

[charred estuary]

Am I reading the aoe opener correctly

You overcap to press TB->BB->TB?

[frank dawn]

So are we enjoying the ground effect vomit and area denial in M0 yet?

[dense elbow]

Not at all

:v

[frank dawn]

Bout to make me become a hunter fr

[clever path]

Slayer or MT?

[echo rapids]

One of the voidstorm dungeons is just constant arcane puddles

[frank dawn]

Some encounter designer got one shot by mortal strike back in vanilla wow and has just never forgiven melee since then

[viscid arrow]

Just dinged 90, which Darkmoon Deck should I get?

[charred estuary]

Don't want to be annoying but I'm confused

The multi target rotation page and the opener for thane contradict each other

Just want to know if everyone else is overcapping rage in the aoe opener

[ionic hamlet]

how come i cant get whirlwind to show here

[charred estuary]

Because it doesn't have a cooldown if I had to guess

[echo rapids]

Can’t show a cooldown if you don’t have one

[ionic hamlet]

like i have it bound to 4, idealy i have it sit there

[echo rapids]

Could have sworn they said there would be less puddles now but not seeing in dungeons at least

[frank dawn]

Are you just wanting the button on your screen or are you also wanting it to track your stacks?

[ionic hamlet]

button on my screen

[frank dawn]

Some people prefer the action bar options to specifically manipulate layout and display, but it can’t track your buffs

[frank dawn]

You might try making a new action bar to put there and arrange the way you want

Might be something I’m missing but maybe gets you closer to what you want

[rare garnet]

More proof action bars are BiS

[vagrant jacinth]

I've tested this thunder clap rend nonsense and it seems like it just does not apply rend to targets that are kinda far away even if they're hit by thunder clap

If you have Crackling Thunder, it won't apply rend to enemies within like half of the AOE

[waxen yarrow]

so if we're using thane for m+ are we basically not pressing raging blow?

[low portal]

is thane better rn for m+ or slayer?

[marsh hamlet]

what are your guys' plan for crafts?

[vagrant jacinth]

Crackling thunder probably isn't even worth using since it doesn't increase the range of rend application

[visual wing]

It's pretty rare in my play, but it does get used once in awhile.

[unborn delta]

if you run out of stuff to press

[random shadow]

seeing different folks keybinds always interesting

[honest trail]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oJsYPYoZu4S2nfX8NfjCxF

Is the sim working properly? xD

How's a Veteran single target trinket better than the champion Crucible one at 8 targets

[sullen dove]

idk 1 minute isnt a very long amount of time

[dense elbow]

1min sims are best sims

[sullen dove]

could be some strange variance with that maybe you only get 1 proc of crucible in that entire minute

and you might get multiple procs of the other one

would try 5min and see if it looks anymore consistent

[honest trail]

1min is short but it's for early M+

Like for a mob pack

[rare garnet]

Crucible trinket gets mad farmed by several vet trinkets

[dense elbow]

Sim 20 sec, then minmax that 1 pull

Even in HC dungs you will be pretty much consistently in combat for longer periods

[honest trail]

Let's try 5min

[rare garnet]

Esp with a warrior in the group

[honest trail]

The Axe trinket seems strong anyway

[dense elbow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-the-big-bang-theory-true-KzyMcEfDh4Jiw

[honest trail]

Now that we have a ranged interrupt, even more so

We pulling

[storm lantern]

Those adventurer seals, i can burn them no issue, right?
Those are already quite useless

[west yew]

is it just me sucking at the game or fury feels weak in leveling and normal dungeons?

[honest trail]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8ao8C6UzPdDkofnGpoC1kz

5min 8 targets

Same

Crucible sucks xD

[west yew]

it feels like im using wet noodles as weapons

[dusky moon]

I added a section about this to the text guide

[rare garnet]

Save all crests till turbo boost

[dusky moon]

Lol

[sullen dove]

so real fast why does this mob exist

what purpose does it serve other than to be the most annoying piece of shit

[warm crag]

waa waa

[sly eagle]

In general
How does the slayer m+ build fare Vs mountain Thane?

[honest trail]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTxbz0VzPWK0j2_1mNqcOGX0Lgrnha3kM6wvCgossscI08I_Hk-v1_D2crjD7h6Wo-FCrnJUn4W2CWU/pubhtml?gid=1484407191&single=true

[sly eagle]

Will have a look
Thank you

[rare garnet]

I’ve been a fan personally

[unborn delta]

so i guess we arent getting prioed for tier this season

lol

[sly eagle]

The sheet makes it look like it's only slightly weaker.
I'm willing to take a DPS hit for it, since I find slayer so much more fun than thane

[honest trail]

It is

But

You have to press Rend

Which is just

[rare garnet]

I’m surprised it’s even that high

[honest trail]

Dogshit

[rare garnet]

OF is so dogshit

[honest trail]

If not for having to press Rend in AOE

I'd play Slayer

Unless they do some buffs somewhere else

[remote bobcat]

OF to deal damage ❌
OF to get whirlwind stacks (rip old OF) ❌
OF to get enraged ✅

[coarse nest]

Surely OF massive buff

[unborn delta]

they got bigger fish to fry

[onyx belfry]

quick question without set what are we playin now slayer or thane ?

[coarse nest]

I’m playing slayer

[winter shoal]

Slayer is a bit better single target and aoe burst, thane is a bit better sustained aoe. We're talking a difference of +/- 5% though so really not worth worrying about

There will be more tuning before there's any actually difficult content to do, so just play whatever before then

[edgy widget]

he protec

[coarse nest]

[gusty cloak]

damn i just noticed im using a staff for my mainhand

[sullen dove]

massive

classic warrior build

[coarse nest]

Large

[fiery edge]

wut did u guys choose?

[hardy shuttle]

Haste for dopamine

[edgy widget]

neither cause this rep grind is 💤

[sullen dove]

crit haste simmed like 100 dps higher lol but wanted to pick that anyway cuz haste make you feel good

but doesnt really matter

[hardy shuttle]

It all gets replaced anyways

[edgy widget]

I would go haste though yeah

[sullen dove]

this like the easiest rep its ever been

just do side quests

fuck contract wq farming

[edgy widget]

you're generally hurting for it a lot more earlier in the season and arms likes it too

[sullen dove]

arms aware

hinting at a planned buff to make it useable this tier??

[shadow quest]

are we actually pressing rend on slayer?

[sullen dove]

perhaps??

[edgy widget]

I didn't say it was hard, it's just tedious lol

[fiery edge]

i assume we also saving crest?

[wise magnet]

Whats the overall thoughts on Fury so far? I'm enjoying the bloodthirst Play style ngl but my DMG seems kind low sometimes. Could just be me, didn't play warrior all last expansion

[edgy widget]

I'm still like 1k out on Amani after having gotten all the treasures/lore/stuff

[sullen dove]

youre supposed to but it kinda doesnt matter really if you plan to like omega farm m+ when its out

[winter shoal]

Yeah but not super high prio to maintain it

[shadow quest]

is it just over raging blow?

[edgy widget]

honestly Fury damage is pretty fine? ST maybe a bit low, but it blasts in dungeons

[sullen dove]

at minimum probably save a bank of like 100-150 of each type of crest just in case but i think considering we got 2 more weeks of getting 100 more of each crest its prolly fine to spend a few like im eyeing dropping 60 on a weapon to 250 but it also just doesnt really matter for damage

just feelgoodery

[edgy widget]

it's not tippy top of the scale though, so if you're just comparing yourself to the OP specs, sure it'll look a little low

[wise magnet]

Maybe things aren't lasting long enough. A mage or DH will just blow the cock off a mob pack and my reckless is still up lmao