Is the simulator working properly? My simc shows thane is 20% ahead of Slayer in aoe, and the 246 trinket is showing lower dps then both my 220 trinkets
#fury
fossil orbit
whole breach
digital mauve
any def stance reminder that works?
fossil orbit
I would say haste at this early state, and my simc also shows haste > mastery
But im alitte confused why thane sims so much higher than slayer for me
orchid iron
any def stance reminder that works?
I use missing class buff and it will yell at you if you're not in berzerker stance, so kinda works like that
digital mauve
yeah but what if I mute the game?
orchid iron
it doesnt literally yell, it puts a big ass icon on the screen, but thats out of combat, you still gotta watch D stance on cooldown manager or something during
elder mulch
m0 available ??
sullen dove
not till weekly reset
rare garnet
8 delves?
celest hearth
are the champion rep pieces out today ?
dense elbow
not till weekly reset
orchid iron
less to cram tonight I guess lol
violet snow
So everything important related to player power like bountiful delves, m0s, zone events ect comes in on reset right?
orchid iron
So everything important related to player power like bountiful delves, m0s, zone...
Zug-brother, being early access BiS is important to me ok
😂
celest hearth
we got got
violet snow
Yeah i have it too lol just wondering if i have to care about doing anything till reset
slim coral
Whatever sims best but generally speaking it’s haste over mastery
young swan
as much of both as you can get
spare steppe
Im happy I get to be fury again 🙂
shadow maple
u guys have the link to the sims of all clases?¿
young swan
doesnt exist publically yet afaik
indigo arch
I'm so glad the new meta gem doesn't need to have different colors
Full speed ahead on hastemaxxing
shadow maple
doesnt exist publically yet afaik
okay ty ^^
remote bobcat
Just for me and my 6‘9“ lookin ass, huh?
sudden tusk
beeeg boiii
remote bobcat
Yes
undone flower
That’s luxthos WA, you can redo it by using other addons and copy the colors (you can see the color code with paint)
It’s not my interface anymore
lean heart
we no longer have to set loot spec to arms correct?
sullen tendon
wtf
im just noticing they removed avatars root free
what purpose
they were tired of warriors having a chance against frost mages
keen kindle
Yeah i have it too lol just wondering if i have to care about doing anything til...
Alts!
clever path
folks what is our future in raid and m+ lol
sullen dove
more than fine in raid maybe slightly more suske in keys but good enough for weeklies ofc
keen kindle
Fury is pretty average to my understanding
And if prot isnt taken for bshout, fury will be
dense elbow
Seems to be the same old, same old. We will be just fine doing stuff, and we are far from the worst we ever been. If I had to guess, ok in raid. Good for low-mid keys in m+, probably less popular the higher you go - if it becomes a purple/blue met, having our biggest issue being (as every time) being community perception of what is needed in keys
flint osprey
im just noticing they removed avatars root free
It's now part of Berserker Rage via a talent.
last fern
merry zinc
we no longer have to set loot spec to arms correct?
Did you get an answer to this?
untold heart
When playing slayer do we save BS for reck?
hot shell
Since they removed smf there shouldnt be any more onehanded weapon drops.
Easiest way to check is cycle thru compendium with prot selected and switch it to fury whereever you see a onehander
hot shell
It was the talent that gives you a few buffs if you used one handers, so the idea was "furys can pick if they want 1h or 2h" when in reality they never balanced it so you never really played it
iron portal
It was a talent
Thank god for past tense
untold heart
Does anyone know if we save bladestorm for reck when playing slayer?
modest condor
if reck is within 20 seconds of coming off cooldown you save bladestorm
untold heart
ty
brittle crow
how come the singularity event is the only one in larias' guide for rn
sullen dove
why is this guy not attackable
sullen dove
how come the singularity event is the only one in larias' guide for rn
cuz its the only one available
hot shell
I swear that whole mushroom city including the delve is just buggy af
brittle crow
worked fine 4 me
sullen dove
idk feels like its usually every 30 min or so
bitter palm
hot shell
It takes 15 min to complete and starts 5 minutes after the last one finished. Wince wave 1 is often laggy its not really a set time
Just my experience tho
stiff carbon
fellas, what's the reason we cant use this macro for bloodbath and any fury ability?
or is my macro just messed up
brittle crow
dagger fury time?
dense elbow
calm swallow
Are sims lying to me that this Champ track trinket is worse than my darkmoon/adventurer trinks?
stoic kindle
what time is the voidstorm event
theres this handy tab on map that shows every zone's events and times
brittle crow
oh fuck
stoic kindle
assault is every 30 mins
hot shell
Anyone playing on EU and can confirm if weekly quests work now or only after regular weekly reset
cyan creek
race changing to haranir worth anything or not that good
brittle crow
if u need to ask its not worth it for u
cyan creek
-_-
brittle crow
no im being fr
race doesnt matter for anyone except the top 0.0001% and half of them play their favorite anyways
if u need to ask, ur not the top 0.0001%
smoky vale
if u need to ask its not worth it for u
the racials never make a difference
faint gazelle
so whats our crafting plan for the first few weeks? we saving for weapons or going in on armor
brittle crow
i got title with velf
at the end of the day you still played a purple elf
think abt it
brittle crow
maghar?? but DKs already get a mount speed bonus
the maghar racial is wasted on em...
(my DK is a maghar)
brittle crow
i thought other racial actives were better
young swan
its just slows, not root break
brittle crow
or passives
brittle crow
for warrior isnt maghar on the bottom mid of the list
smoky vale
im talking about for dk
idk about maghar for warrior
@remote bobcat @modest condor i learned so much about number theory today
i learned about the euclidean algo to find lcm
er
gcd
empty mirage
does the built in cd manager have the new berserker buff in it? cant find it
im dumb i found it
brittle crow
not like u need to track it anyways
onyx linden
at what ilvl its worth to change cloak + boots?
gleaming crag
why is guide pushing mastery flasks and enchants when our haste is so low?
marble pilot
Mastery good
sour frigate
Me master me hit hard
sudden tusk
why is guide pushing mastery flasks and enchants when our haste is so low?
mainly becuase we use the 15% haste talent
so our haste is actually around like 40% when enraged
surreal token
what if i got 4% haste
ornate flint
fiery edge
wowhead got it all
glad coyote
silver moon is available now, not sure about the other 2
brittle crow
wym silvermoon
sullen dove
the silvermoon event is available now
apparently
so you can get champ track helmet too
other 2 imagine still not good yet
brittle crow
whats that have to do with my message tho
fiery edge
which renown for that?
brittle crow
im talking abt the voidstorm trinket
fiery edge
i mean what lvl of renown
sullen dove
yea idk but assume he just went off the other purple item
sullen dove
i mean what lvl of renown
9
fiery edge
damn at 8 atm gotta do side
sullen dove
yea
if u plan on playing alts its def more efficient to do sidequests on alts
get renown and xp at the same time
and can dmf 10% xp buff too if you want
i did most of the eversong sidequests at lvl 90 which felt dumb in hindsight but a lot of zul aman/harandar on alts pretty epic
fiery edge
does wq give alot of rep?
gusty cloak
why is BIS food with secondary stat when theres food with primary stat
gleaming crag
idk i made 79 of these cause they were cheap
sudden tusk
why is BIS food with secondary stat when theres food with primary stat
fury generally scales harder with secondary stat then primary
becuase generally its pumping our mastery which is just more % damage then prim stat
gleaming crag
but out stat priority is 1 str 2 haste 3 mast
so 50 mainstat should be better than 63 secondary
fiery edge
and basically we never press raging blow anymore
mid blow is always mid to press
stoic kindle
idk i made 79 of these cause they were cheap
spent some time cooking
gleaming crag
spent some time cooking
thats alot of hours is keys and raid
stoic kindle
had to make for 5 chars, but ye, will be using these all expansion
surreal token
the silvermoon event is available now
wat's the silevrmoon event
oh nvm I found it on wowhead
thx king
stoic kindle
change to arms and try
sullen dove
again its because the upgrade will go to an ilvl higher than my mainhand
so i cant do it
mortal ivy
I upgradd mine to 237 with gold
sullen dove
would not be just gold unless you randomly happened to get a crazy drop
yea not for me
and i made it like 3 days ago
stoic kindle
eu or na?
sullen dove
na
stoic kindle
ah
sullen dove
deja character stats i think
hot shell
Does it show gems and enchants?
hot shell
Will check that out. Thanks
sour frigate
m0s bout to get omegabliterated
hot shell
Chonky is too flashy just based on the screens. Im a warrior. I like it simple
stoic kindle
well its highly customizable, just turn it all off
hot shell
Why would i customize a car if i only want the wheels anyways
chrome relic
think that's as good as its gonna get before reset tomorrow
stoic kindle
you wouldnt download a car
fading sky
think that's as good as its gonna get before reset tomorrow
reset opens M0 allready?
chrome relic
yeah
sour frigate
But with shit loot
halcyon birch
does anyone know why i can't find the champion gear on quartermasters still?
is it not available on eu yet?
sullen dove
none of them are on quartermasters they're related to the zones world event for each faction
tiny flame
you need renown 9 and finish the quest
sullen dove
and only 2 are out right now being silvermoon/stormarion singularity
you cant get the zul aman and haranar pieces until tomorrow most likely but the other 2 you pick up quests off the renown quartermasters and they have you do the zone event
ionic hamlet
i saw some videos but i’m confused if we’ll be playing slayer or thane in m+
seems they are close, but which one is pulling ahead for now?
sullen dove
probably thane for now
regardless close enough to not really matter if all you wanna do is just farm some weekly 10s/12s what have you
sullen dove
ya thats prolly mostly accurate
heavy ruin
I would always take AoE sims with a grain of salt
sullen dove
still might be random tuning 2 weeks from now so who knows
and yea aoe isnt as clear cut and dry as st since its not common youre fighting 8 targets for 5 minutes straight
just like a frame of reference/comparison
ionic hamlet
makes sense
heavy ruin
But that's a good comparison yes, it fits their profiles afaik
tiny seal
still might be random tuning 2 weeks from now so who knows
they wont tune fury anyway dont get excited 
sullen dove
they're both relatively the same profile anyway
like sharp ish spikes every 45~90 seconds
think thane just has a bit more sustain overall on account of thunderclap just being so much better than pressing whirlwind
ionic hamlet
right
sudden tusk
those sims will change a little with trinket/ embelish tuning but most if it is p accurate
ionic hamlet
those sims will change a little with trinket/ embelish tuning but most if it is ...
oh okay awesome ty
low folio
am i not seeing it in the talents or does regular execute have a chance to proc reap the storm?
or maybe im just getting sudden death procs randomly at the same time i press execute
fiery edge
let's go slayer
sullen dove
am i not seeing it in the talents or does regular execute have a chance to proc ...
should be somewhere in slayer hero talent
sudden deaths only not regular exe too
radiant plank
Saw this from sims on a video
which video
low folio
i mean i could be wrong i feel like im sometimes proccing it wiht regular execute
summer quail
i mean i could be wrong i feel like im sometimes proccing it wiht regular execut...
could be that you get an sd proc as you hit exe? idk if that can happen or not
sudden tusk
am i not seeing it in the talents or does regular execute have a chance to proc ...
no just suddendeath
low folio
if it is sudden death then its gotta be triggering in a way where i dont see the button lightup at all
fossil orbit
think that's as good as its gonna get before reset tomorrow
What addon are u using to see all that info?
low folio
is it better to just press rampage at max prioriety in single target during reck?
potent thicket
delves actually blow dungeons out of the water
delves better xp?
sudden tusk
yeah its not even close
potent thicket
o damn, gotta do those
somber elk
is the 246 trinket pretty bad for us or are sims not accurate?
sudden tusk
with ddmf and warmode bonus
delve quests are giving me 17% ofa level at 89
89-90 in 6 minutes
molten wing
is it better to just press rampage at max prioriety in single target during reck...
not sure as well , Prio in the guide says Ramp over 120 rage or During Reck , but in quick sims when i am looking at the sequence during reck its still sending Bloodbaths on CD until you hit rage cap and then its sending the Ramps
low folio
ya i thought about that after asking that question. it feels natural to be able to get 2 quick rampages in after a bloodbath
molten wing
i do find it a bit weird because i am prety sure i am rage capped during all of this
edgy widget
sims are still half updated, cause there's no endgame content yet
molten wing
ah cool , thanks
edgy widget
and the current working APL is literally impossible for a human being to follow lmao, so we've been working to cut it back
I'll get it settled this week, but right now it's sleepy time
molten wing
take your time 😄
heavy ruin
GN Archim!
molten wing
i guess abundance is also still bugged/disabled until reset
edgy widget
i guess abundance is also still bugged/disabled until reset
correct
and legends can't be started at all
molten wing
its an alt leveling angle it seems
edgy widget
take your time 😄
I mean I wanted to have it done earlier, just swamped; guides are closer to what the actual sim is gonna look like when its finished, though there's a few more tweaks going in there too
and knowing our luck, w/e tuning blizzard does on the 17th is going to completely upend everything anyway
heavy ruin
Are you leveling your first char? If you are, it's fine if you don't optimise the heck out of it 😄
high echo
Is it normal to be kinda rage-starved sometimes without a shaman in the group?
Or is it simply a matter of "get more haste"
potent thicket
Are you leveling your first char? If you are, it's fine if you don't optimise th...
yeaah xD main warr, alt will be a shaman i'll level through dungeons healer and sojourner to get renown
heavy ruin
Doing delves quest gives you a bit more than a level afaik, you can use it if for your last level if you want to finish up
potent thicket
and might spam heroics as tank warr when i get the chance
floral bay
any way to prevent RB from glowing when it gets refresh proc in default UI?
lucid plover
no m0 yet?
cobalt kernel
on reset
humble lark
Is there a delve quest for every delve? And can you pick them all up at once at 80 ?
humble lark
Ah sweet
floral bay
Is bloodborne only important pre Odyns Fury or should I delay, say, a Thunderblast in favor of another BT cast to get it rolling? In most scenarios youre gonna have BB up anyway, just wondering what to do if not
gaunt moat
Hi guys, is the saltheril's soiree reputation choice only cosmetics ? or there is some hidden good item ?
brittle crow
Hi guys, is the saltheril's soiree reputation choice only cosmetics ? or there i...
the good hidden item is the fuckton of silvermoon rep it gives
but the event itself is only cosmetics
humble shadow
haranir racial any good?
gaunt moat
but the event itself is only cosmetics
thank you
tranquil wyvern
Any good build for leveling? And which one is faster
slim coral
Any good build for leveling? And which one is faster
its' leveling so slayer and thane clear about the same
tranquil wyvern
Good, and talents just as delves (in wowhead)?
clever path
is dk or warrior more worth maining as of now for high key pushing? any possiblity gambling on arms?
smoky vale
nothing is set in stone until raid/turbo boost tuning
but atm dk is tuned better than warrior so take that as you will
pearl sequoia
unholy specifically
heavy ruin
Any good build for leveling? And which one is faster
There's a Leveling section in the Wowhead guide!
radiant plank
is dk or warrior more worth maining as of now for high key pushing? any possibli...
dk
high echo
is crafting weapon not as much of an angle as it used to be?
radiant plank
is crafting weapon not as much of an angle as it used to be?
depends on your wr
still a good play for 99% people imo
smoky vale
walhe when arms deleted
smoky vale
like 
high echo
depends on your wr
i wont do mythic raid first few weeks i reckon, ill just do a weapon ig thanks
radiant plank
i wont do mythic raid first few weeks i reckon, ill just do a weapon ig thanks
if u still want to think about refer to this
from larias guide
high echo
if u still want to think about refer to this
huh interesting
thanks
not too many 2h str users in my raid, but it dropping later is certainly important
good shout
warm crag
depends on your wr
tldr if my wr is good?
see if i drop one and then decide what to craft or
radiant plank
tldr if my wr is good?
loot one from vault and craft smth
warm crag
ya ok its the same thing as the last few seasons
heavy ruin
As fury you probably want to craft a 2H anyway, but that delays your embellishements
high echo
itd be kinda funny to get a second mythic 2h in the vault in the same week
radiant plank
yeah then u turbo crank
high echo
kinda cool that weapons still have sort of effect on the dps in 2026, relying on weapons is good fantasy
dusty cove
has the Gaze of Alnseer been simed post nerf? Do we aim for puzzle box instead?
radiant plank
hasnt been yet
warm crag
kinda cool that weapons still have sort of effect on the dps in 2026, relying on...
this train of thought stops being cool when you dont drop one for the first few weeks of a season and you're artificially gimped until you do
high echo
this train of thought stops being cool when you dont drop one for the first few ...
Yup also true
warm crag
or you dont care about performance which would be fair enough
radiant plank
this train of thought stops being cool when you dont drop one for the first few ...
Imagine not looting a weapon for 7 weeks
or crafting intellect dagger
on rogues
would be pretty zero cool
pseudo violet
As fury you probably want to craft a 2H anyway, but that delays your embellishem...
What's the cost for mats looking like at the moment?
(roughly)
heavy ruin
I couldn't say, and it's going to change a lot by the time you can craft one afaik
high echo
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stoic echo
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heavy ruin
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finite ravine
Has anyone found a rare dropping a 2h str weapon? All I have found are Agi/Int drops :(
high echo
woops
undone flower
One of the world quest drop a 230 2h wep
signal falcon
Just south of Silvermoon
undone flower
And rares have the same loot table from the entire zone
finite ravine
And I have not gotten lucky with HC dungeons in that regard
undone flower
But my OH is still 201 :/
You just need to find one 1/6 and the upgrade is free
coarse nest
Buy a 220 on the ah or something
lethal quiver
can someone explain to me why thunder blast deals less dmg than thunderclap?
deft palm
Does normal RB take prio over BT?
worldly valve
Is wrecking throw still high prio on absorb shielded units?
blissful pine
If I follow the rotation posted on WoWhead then
I will never cast Bloodthirst outside of Reck
I will never cast Raging Blow outside of Reck
I will sit on CDs and not press anything as it tells me not to by omission.
Please fix.
odd crater
Anyone else like Slayer over Mountain Thane?
stoic echo
If I follow the rotation posted on WoWhead then
I will never cast Bloodthirst o...
Semantics
6th priority is always bloodthirst. And bloodbath during recklessness
It's an additional info for the people who might not immediately know the difference or what bloodbath is
Bloodbath has the same priority as bloodthirst
Bloodthirst doesn't even exist during reck
blissful pine
No not semantics. Some people literally have no idea what they should press and they look at the guide. There will be people who will come ask when to press BT/RB because they're not in there. There will also be people who wonder why their damage is bad because they're not pressing it as it says not to by omission.
The point of a guide is to inform people on how/what to do. Just because you think everyone in the game knows exactly how to play Warrior without a guide doesn't mean the guide shouldn't be accurate.
modest condor
bt and rb are in there
if you can find a way to press bt during reck with reckless abandon feel free to let us know
but it's pretty obvious what it's telling you to do
stoic echo
No not semantics. Some people literally have no idea what they should press and ...
Yes semantics. It's Bloodthirst OR Bloodbath. The during recklessness only refers to Bloodbath
Hence why I said semantics
As sil said, you can't even press BT / RB during reck
rare garnet
us casuals cant read past 2 words
5: thunder blast during avatar
6: bloodbath during recklessness
7: bloodthirst
8 execute whenever available
we can also then tell people our rotation has 15 different priorities and fury is the most complex class in the game
clever belfry
@gleaming siren schmeowdi
gleaming siren
@clever belfry schmeowdi
blissful pine
Again not semantics. You're assuming someone knows that BT changes to BB during Reck. You're making assumptions based on your own personal knowledge.
No where on this page does it tell you Reck changes the ability.
I always take these rotations and give them to someone who doesn't play WoW at all and ask them how to play the class using this guide.
This is the issue they came up with. You shouldn't ever press BT or RB outside of Reck because it says only to press it in Reck.
Read the guide as someone who doesn't have pre-existing knowledge of the class.
hardy shuttle
My only question with the rotation (i know its very rare to happen) but let's say you proc the 3 bloodthirsts with no cd, and are at 2 stacks of TB.
Do you use the one tb stack so you dont munch it? Or send BTs?
slim coral
If I follow the rotation posted on WoWhead then
I will never cast Bloodthirst o...
not really it says bloodthirst or bloodbath if you are in reck
echo rapids
The preexisting knowledge in this case is reading the tooltip of the talent when you take it
blissful pine
The preexisting knowledge in this case is reading the tooltip of the talent when...
Where does the tooltip say it changes abilities?
hardy shuttle
Look at Reckless Abandon
echo rapids
The talent above it
slim coral
Where does the tooltip say it changes abilities?
the talent Reck abadon
the capstone talent
blissful pine
not really it says bloodthirst or bloodbath if you are in reck
Again this is from someone who doesn't play WoW. They read this guide and this is the issue they had.
Based on their understanding you only press Bloodthirst OR Bloodbath during Reck.
Meaning you have the choice of two abilities and you only press one or the other during reck.
You never press either outside of reck.
echo rapids
Why would a wow guide need to be written for someone who doesn’t play wow
blissful pine
So you should write the guide for people who already know the class?
hardy shuttle
All the guide is saying is that whether you are in recklessness or not, your rotation doesnt change. The prio is the same regardless of empowered RA abilities.
slim coral
Meaning you have the choice of two abilities and you only press one or the other...
you can only bloodbath during reck if you have the correct talents
that would mean you bloodthirst outside of reck
blissful pine
That's not how the guide is written though.
dense elbow
A guide for beginners need clarity, that is a fair point tho. If Djinn is talking as one of the less experienced players and fine the terms/layout confusing, that is ok feedback to give
slim coral
That's not how the guide is written though.
the guide is written assuming you have the correct talents
blissful pine
Your argument is still using pre-existing knowledge.
slim coral
there's not going to be a guide for every talent variation
blissful pine
No where does the guide on this page indicate that BT changes to BB during Reck.
So reading the guide as written you will never press BT or BB outside of reck.
unborn delta
The guide should also not assume the reader is potty trained
spring lantern
Your argument is still using pre-existing knowledge.
you are allowed to read your talents and figure things out when reading a guide
people who need guides can read
slim coral
No where does the guide on this page indicate that BT changes to BB during Reck.
if you are playing a class you should be familiar with the talents you are choosing and read up on the class
blissful pine
Again your arguement then Baze is that the guide should be deleted.
slim coral
I just started playing the new spec devour I read all the capstones and apex talents etc then read the rotation
blissful pine
You should already know everything there is to know about the class you're playing.
The guide then becomes pointless.
spring lantern
i can see a case for wanting it to say "6. Bloodthirst (Bloodbath in Recklessness)" to make it clearer
slim coral
Again your arguement then Baze is that the guide should be deleted.
my argument is that people should be reading
blissful pine
If the guide is for people who don't know everything there is to know about the class.
dense elbow
Some newbie proofing seems fair enough, no harm is done
blissful pine
Then the guide should be as accurate as possible.
Arguing that you SHOULDN'T improve the guide
because people should just know.
Isn't an argument
It's an ego take.
burnt crow
who hurt this man
echo rapids
No one is arguing the guide can’t or shouldn’t be improved
slim coral
asking people to read talents on a class they are learning is an ego take?
dense elbow
I want to support your main take, but dont go full crazy
austere forge
echo rapids
But there is a balance between more words making a guide longer vs focusing on key things
blissful pine
All I'm saying. Is based on the way it is written right now. The guide is saying to someone who doesn't know the class (the intended audience of the guide) that you should never press BT or RB outside of reck. They would not have the pre-existing knowledge that Reck changes your abilities to BB/CB. It is not stated on this page that it does that.
slim coral
There is nothing wrong with making things more clear but you cannot play the guide writer for something you didn't know
if you arent at base reading the capstone talents you arent even trying
fiery edge
goin back to slayer after testing mountain dew 
blissful pine
So changing the guide to indicate one or both of
Reckless abandon changes BT to BB and RB to CB.
BT should be used 6th prior (During Reck Use BB instead)
This fixes the entire issue.
slim coral
I mean I didn't know that reap changed to cull when reading the dh rotation but upon playing the class I found out that it does
dense elbow
If your main take is:
- The Guide should make it clearer to a new reader that BT becomes BB
That is fine
Doesnt mean that Bazed take of
- The Guide also expects the reader to invest time in the game and learn things like class talents outside of it.
Is fine
Having it be clearer that BB is BT, under a different name, is totally fine. It suprises me the guide doesnt do it.
Guess I will open the guide for the first time in years and have a look
sullen dove
my argument is that people should be reading
Read the book 
slim coral
All rotation examples are written with some baseline expected
There are in depths explations of the class and talents in other parts of the guide
hardy shuttle
Guide needs more pictures imo 
fiery edge
ts would not happen if we're S tier
blissful pine
Click Mountian Thane
dense elbow
aight
full bison
tbf, it also said that is uses the default talents... meaning it would have reck abandon
fickle dirge
If your main take is:
- The Guide should make it clearer to a new reader that BT...
I think BB and BT isn't even the problem it just says "during recklesness" and as far as I see people read it as use it only in recklesness
dense elbow
blissful pine
I dont see the issue
slim coral
it litearlly says bt or bloodbath idk what more you want
formal notch
just add a "," after Blood thirst
dense elbow
Use BB during Recklessness is a problem?
Or is the tiny gramatical error of not using a "BT or; BB during recklessness"
blissful pine
So the way this was read by someone who doesn't play WoW is
You will either press BT or BB during reck. Never outside.
Below recklessness is explained and doesn't talk about chaning to BT to BB
dense elbow
Hm, yeah, I can see what you going for
slim coral
well you cant cast bt inside reck if you have the correct talents
blissful pine
well you cant cast bt inside reck if you have the correct talents
Again you're under the assumption using pre-existing knowledge
If you don't know Reck changes you don't know.
dense elbow
No, his point is that as written, you can read it as you DONT use BT or BB at all outside of reck
blissful pine
Exactly Funky
dense elbow
only during reck will you use BT
dense elbow
No, it is one sentence
slim coral
meaning you cast bt if you arent in reck and bb if you are
blissful pine
I can reword it Baze
During reck cast BT or BB
It's exactly the same sentence
That is the issue here.
burnt crow
so you want it to say bt without reck and bb with reck
fiery edge
think it should've been bt or bb (during reck) 
echo rapids
I agree that it would probably be clearer to say
bloodthirst (changes to bloodbath during recklessness)
dense elbow
Yep, makes it 100%, if bazed cant see where Djinn is coming from
I think you likely are just stuck being argumentative
Just take a breather and re-read it
Does it matter? Not much. Will it make it more fool proof, 100%
fickle dirge
I think this became like an illusion and since he sees it one way he can't see the other way
fiery edge
guys, it's just a game, we're not beating UH 
blissful pine
My issue isn't that I'm dumb. I read it and knew exactly what it was "meant" to say. I'm just trying to get it updated for the new people who are told to read the guide. If they don't know the class then this at it's core is saying not to cast by omission.
It's a simple 5 second fix for whomever writes the guide.
fickle dirge
I was talking about Baze if you are refering to me
wild mural
We play warrior we're all dumb for not rerolling
echo rapids
I do think it’s also a wording that only is confusing if you have never read your capstone talent
still iron
anyone know length of downtime>
slim coral
I think it's pretty clear so I'm not gonna say I can see where it is confusing just to make stuff up
dense elbow
I am at least honest enough to say, I can see what he means
If you honestly cant Bazed, that is fine, but know that many can
slim coral
I see what he is saying I just think he's wrong
blissful pine
I understand what Baze is saying. I'm just trying to help the people who actually don't how the pre-existing knowledge. Even if you got that by reading your talent.
You could also add under the "Recklessness" section below the rotation that w/ Reck Abandon your abilities change.
To further reinforce the change.
sullen dove
blissful pine
At any rate.
Changing this line from
6. Bloodthirst or Bloodbath during Recklessness
to
6. Bloodthirst (Changes to Bloodbath during Recklessness w/ Reckless abandon)
Would solve this issue. Same thing would need to be added to 11
You could also just remove the recklessness comment all together and make it
- Bloodthirst or Bloodbath
undone flower
Warrior explaining a warrior how to read, typical zug
echo rapids
You could also just remove the recklessness comment all together and make it
But you said no one knows that bloodthirst changes to bloodbath
I’m kidding
mossy pelican
At any rate.
Changing this line from
6. Bloodthirst or Bloodbath during Reckles...
Too many words just delete recklessness
fiery edge
buff warrior
blissful pine
You would still want to add at the bottom under recklessness that Reckless Abandon changes your ability names.
dense elbow
its only a problem written in for Thane, weirdly enough
blissful pine
^
dense elbow
Prob just something that hasnt caught the attention of anyone, before this event
it is very much a miniscule noneissue of nonissues
Fun little bit to yap about tho
blissful pine
It doesn't matter to anyone who has some base understanding of the class.
It's only an issue for someone who's brand new/has no pre-existing knowledge.
smoky nacelle
2hrs of maint. sadge
fiery edge
2hrs?
dense elbow
Yes, but it defaults to Slayer, so they going to see that before they see the Thane issue 
Only an advanced player would change tab
chrome plover
once again thank you NA
mossy pelican
It’s just not written consistently
blissful pine
She likes lightning so she said I should be lightning warrior.
fiery edge
could be warrior buff
mossy pelican
Someone would be getting a talking to if this was dev documentation
blissful pine
So I sent her the Thane rotation and asked her how I play.
sullen dove
You would still want to add at the bottom under recklessness that Reckless Aband...
questions like these tho aside from saying "read every talent" which no one sane does
anyone is more than capable of typing in "bloodbath" into the talent tree search bar and seeing where it comes from if they dont know
thats like much more reasonable
sullen dove
but i mean also if youve ever hit the recklessness button once in your life you will notice your two (one) main button changing icons and presumably your mouse would be magnetized to the change to see what they are now
echo rapids
More proof that slayer is better
echo rapids
I can’t hear the conversation over the sound of my bladestorm
dense elbow
Turn off DPS meter, press Bladestorm, close your eyes and imagine a scene of your DPS going burrrrrr
The slayer experience
marble pilot
Could be worse. Some of the other classes with abilities that change put each version of the ability on its own row
echo rapids
@vagrant root ask your new player friend what sounds cooler, angrily slamming the ground or being a literal storm of blades
dense elbow
Depends how old they are, if they grew up duing Marvel Infinity War era, they prob want to be wannabe Tor
sullen dove
big fan of tor
fiery edge
Tor the tunder gawd
marble pilot
You play Thane cause you Stan Thor.
I play Thane cause im Old AF and have Warcraft 3 Nostalgia
sullen dove
dense elbow
You play Thane cause you Stan Thor.
I play Thane cause im Old AF and have Warcr...
FOR KAZ'MODAN!
echo rapids
A goated choice
marble pilot
I mean dota was a custom game in WC3 for years before it was its own thing
dense elbow
Not to be confused by Tor, the God son of Odin. That is King Tor, son of Torson, son of Torson, son of Torson, son of Torson...
marble pilot
WC3 is also why we get blademaster requests all the time. They even put one in Wow before. Nagrand questline I think. I dont pay a ton of attention to lore
dense elbow
Ngl, the Name+son/daughter add, is the best system
odd crater
Slayer is for me 🙂
dense elbow
Slayer is for me 🙂
Slaaaaaaaaay~~
honest trail
Well I guess am starting to enjoy Thane enough to stick with it for the incoming season
fiery edge
nah bro, you're gonna reroll soon
honest trail
nah bro, you're gonna reroll soon <:sadge:820202363359854633>
Reroll what?
honest trail
Don't insult me pls
echo rapids
Reroll what?
fiery edge
wtf and they're all fury too 
honest trail
Of course
honest trail
Who the fuck plays Arms & Prot
sullen dove
prot maybe worth its kinda gigachad
undone flower
prot queue gigachad
echo rapids
Big pros for fem troll
fiery edge
bet prot clap doin more dam than arms
slim coral
I have my warrior, unholy dk and dev dh
undone flower
arms players can stay lvl 80 to be first dps in normal dungeons 
slim coral
Allstate goated line up
sullen dove
was not expecting lock to be my 2nd lvl 90 but you know wha
its kinda peak
and i think does more st dps than my warrior at 20 ilvls less
sullen dove
poggers
echo rapids
Demo lock is pretty cracked right now
sullen dove
ya which is crazy too its literally 4 total buttons
sullen dove
max apex talent refunding soulshard feels so good
honest trail
Fury thane hardest spec in the game atm
sullen dove
1 being damage*
honest trail
😄
valid pulsar
both the prio list and opener are different on wowhead and maxroll. Both are last updated 26.02 though
lethal quiver
is keeping rend a priority for fury?
sullen dove
yea maxroll is made by diff people, though would imagine its not much more different than the placement of like 3-4 spells in a similar order
sullen dove
is keeping rend a priority for fury?
st not too horribly much but youd rather hit it over raging blow if given the option most of the time to refresh, it is pretty epic on aoe tho as slayer so def wanna keep it up
thane auto applies with with thunderclap so dont have to worry about it there
lethal quiver
in aoe as a slayer i should prioritize rend up over eveything then?
tight roost
Isnt rend applied by ww?
glad coyote
not for slayer no
hoary harness
Isnt rend applied by ww?
thane passive
storm lantern
on slayer you have to press Rend
hoary harness
both the prio list and opener are different on wowhead and maxroll. Both are las...
just play the class, ull understand how it works and priority, which ability give a proc to an other ect
echo rapids
I’d start with slayer, it’s more straightforward
hoary harness
I’d start with slayer, it’s more straightforward
thane is not that complicated tho
u just have to follow more prio
to not loose procs
hardy shuttle
Id argue thane is probably easier. At least in aoe. Once you get rend involved
brittle crow
rend just replaces rb its not hard
thane has 4 prio lists for st and aoe, in and out of avatar
its harder
hoary harness
worse thing to do is just spam thunder clap
echo rapids
thane is not that complicated tho
Thane can end up with 2 stacks of TB and full rage and bloodbath ready and it’s more to figure out
Decision tree on slayer feels simpler
echo rapids
Fair
lethal quiver
thane is more complex... altough i got this feeling that dmg on everything is so close, that pressing the wrong button is a minor dps loss?
just don't overcap rage, and keep your apm high
keen talon
Guys you can just enjoy the game and not worry about playing perfectly for your weekly +10 keys
lethal quiver
thunderblast dealing less dmg than thunderclap is so weird
echo rapids
thane is more complex... altough i got this feeling that dmg on everything is so...
That could be, thunderblast and bloodbath and ramp all hit hard
Seems like if you don’t waste rage and don’t overcap on TB you are doing ok
digital mauve
Any def stance reminder working?
slim coral
Any def stance reminder working?
yes
digital mauve
Link plz mate
lethal quiver
i will be honest... i think they messed up warrior class design.
it's just... bad design.
people can't figure out skill priority without a guide and simulations.
trying to link all specs via hero talents, made balacing more complex. not adding apex talentson top of that, also made it a bit more complex.
they can't work on a spec without affecting the other, and things gets weird over time
digital mauve
Tyy
slim coral
i will be honest... i think they messed up warrior class design.
it's just... ba...
fury is the same as it's been
arms is also way better than it's ever been design wise
hardy shuttle
thane has 4 prio lists for st and aoe, in and out of avatar
So does slayer if its anything like pre patch. Haven't looked at midnight too much.
Like noxiv was using rb as filler up to 5, ww as filler above that, rend on cd above 10t
lethal quiver
arms is also way better than it's ever been design wise
the simple existance of slam is bad design, we are like spamming cleave and thats it
brittle crow
So does slayer if its anything like pre patch. Haven't looked at midnight too mu...
noxiv was feelycrafting in prepatch, no?
hoary harness
thane is more complex... altough i got this feeling that dmg on everything is so...
nah def not, missing a spell or a proc at the right time can cause u a pretty high dmg loss
hardy shuttle
noxiv was feelycrafting in prepatch, no?
Idk dude was blasting like 240k overall in floodgate
slim coral
the simple existance of slam is bad design, we are like spamming cleave and that...
we aren't just spamming cleave arms is like one of the more complex specs now since there is a ton of procs
dense elbow
i will be honest... i think they messed up warrior class design.
it's just... ba...
I kinda dont agree with that, it is quite intuitive.
You got buttons you cant press, and when you press them you can press other buttons that shine up. Do that and you will perform just fine.
The core rotation is pretty straight forward and makes sense.
Most ppl will just see warrior and understand the gameplay:
Rampage to dump rage, press other buttons that shine up to gain rage
hoary harness
I kinda dont agree with that, it is quite intuitive.
You got buttons you cant p...
still have a prio list, when u have 4 ability that procs, just press random procs are not correct tho
its said ye war is just spamming procs, but nah in reality
dense elbow
Most players will get a feel of things as they play, and be like "Sudden Death does big dam" I press that, oh rampage is back - I press rampage
young swan
i will be honest... i think they messed up warrior class design.
it's just... ba...
idk how this would apply just to warrior
tulip sentinel
I personally find arms much more intuitive than fury
young swan
theres nothing special they're doing to warrior that applies exclusively to us
echo rapids
They made a lot to specs more like fury in midnight
echo rapids
Simpler than what? It was pretty simple in tww
unborn delta
yea there isnt much thinking about "i have x stacks of y so i press z now"
in s2 fury had a slightly more complex priority list that depended on certain procs
echo rapids
Although partly that was WAs doing the execute stuff for us
young swan
Simpler than what? It was pretty simple in tww
i mean SD with marks was a plague all xpac
lethal quiver
I kinda dont agree with that, it is quite intuitive.
You got buttons you cant p...
a lot of times raging blow glows but u are not supposed to press it.
a lot of times you have 4 skills glowing.
the numbers on skill tool tip of rampage bloodbath and execute are like super close, there is no heavy hitter, they dmg are all super close.
young swan
same with BT and bloodcraze
echo rapids
True but those were smoothed over with WAs that showed bloodthirst percent and such
valid pulsar
cant decide if i want to play massacre or rampaging ruins for m+ slayer guys
lethal quiver
idk how this would apply just to warrior
this applies to every class actualy, the balancing problem
dense elbow
a lot of times raging blow glows but u are not supposed to press it.
a lot of ti...
Sure, but even if you press RB, it is not like you nuked your performance. You will run out of charges and press BT, execute and so on.
It isnt optimal, but functional.
The spec just works
valid pulsar
what do you guys think
valid pulsar
hell no
young swan
cant decide if i want to play massacre or rampaging ruins for m+ slayer guys
rampaging ruin sucks
unborn delta
its not the same tho
lapis rose
hi guys maybe someone know what happening, im back and i have ligthning rotation helper, how can i turn off it
drowsy heron
its not too bad for Slayer, and with the cancelaura you CAN play it as thane
echo rapids
I feel like we have to thank blizzard for at least trying to fix our capped aoe even if rampaging ruin in awkward
young swan
a lot of times raging blow glows but u are not supposed to press it.
a lot of ti...
this is less a problem with the class design and more a problem with blizzard being unwilling to let plays natively turn off spell proc glows based on the ability
slim coral
hi guys maybe someone know what happening, im back and i have ligthning rotation...
it's in settings I can't log in cause servers down
copper relic
Anyone have a good list of trinket performance? Bloodmallet not updated yet
unborn delta
we have that
im talking about on slayer oops
lapis rose
ty
slim coral
Anyone have a good list of trinket performance? Bloodmallet not updated yet
there's no serious content out so no one has one except for wowhead trinekt list
unborn delta
trinkets arent implemented in sims yet anwyays
lapis rose
btw how ur coursor also lightning ?
copper relic
there's no serious content out so no one has one except for wowhead trinekt list
roger thanks
hoary harness
btw how ur coursor also lightning ?
cursor mod
valid pulsar
its not too bad for Slayer, and with the cancelaura you CAN play it as thane
yeah but do you think its worth since it complicates the gameplay quite a bit with an additional button for cancel aura macro and also positioning is now relevant too a bit for ruins no ?
echo rapids
yeah but do you think its worth since it complicates the gameplay quite a bit wi...
Those are good arguments against it
lapis rose
cursor mod
addon?
valid pulsar
from my testing the difference between ruins and massacre is not big enouigh to justify going ruins but i wanted to brainstorm with oyu guys too 😄
brittle crow
from my testing the difference between ruins and massacre is not big enouigh to ...
we dont have brains
we outsource thinking to robots
robots says RR bad
valid pulsar
my subjective testing on the dummies is not a good way of testing 😄
brittle crow
so RR bad
undone vault
i zug zug
valid pulsar
need some numbers
valid pulsar
robots says RR bad
alright that settles it 😄
drowsy heron
yeah but do you think its worth since it complicates the gameplay quite a bit wi...
not really worth in most situations. I only run it with Slayer in dungeons i know have pure ST bosses
young swan
robots says RR bad
dont need a robot to know its dogshit
drowsy heron
AA is a good dungeon to run RR on Slayer
valid pulsar
he is not wrong RR is a dogshit talent but ifa dogshit talent does more numbers i go dogshit talent 😄
young swan
AA is also a good dungeon to not play slayer
drowsy heron
both hero talents are decent enough to run whatever you want
ornate vale
I have been playing Fury since Vanilla and so I am a little old, however to me the playstyle of Fury should be Fast large furious swings of your blades. I does not feel that way to me. When I play thane I almost feel like a tank stomping about. I guess I am complaining because I feel the new changes do not live up to my expectations of a true warrior. I miss my bow.
brittle crow
some are more decent enough than others
drowsy heron
Slayer does more than fine in AA and does better in other dungeons
drowsy heron
I have been playing Fury since Vanilla and so I am a little old, however to me ...
Slayer would be more your style then
I also would recommend picking a race with good BT animations (each race has different one) as some races feel WEAK animation wise
ornate vale
Slayer would be more your style then
Thanks for the advice.
olive wraith
my subjective testing on the dummies is not a good way of testing 😄
RR also doesn’t have much value on dummies
drowsy heron
yea RR gains its value on massive 6+ target pulls, not going to see that on dummies
dense elbow
RR is counter MC design if you ask me
Remove on of them, and be done with it
chose a path for the design
digital mauve
I also would recommend picking a race with good BT animations (each race has dif...
How night elves
chrome plover
I would recommend picking goblin
dense elbow
Nelf looks good when BT reaps, as animation carries through
lean heart
thane with low haste lowk feels awful but then i guess thats just fury with low haste
dense elbow
Nelf SD animation looks horrid tho
brittle crow
I also would recommend picking a race with good BT animations (each race has dif...
orc!
good every animation
young swan
I have been playing Fury since Vanilla and so I am a little old, however to me ...
while slayer certainly will feel a lot more "furious" a big issue right now is just straight up not having enough haste
so I would definitely withold judgement until we're able to get our hands on gear that isnt from leveling and world quests
cause even slayer feels slow as piss rn
brittle crow
can fix this by having a pet priest
lean heart
going from something like 35% base haste to 10% on new xpac always feels awful
dense elbow
i mean, fury plays with what, 40% perma haste either way
brittle crow
i wish
young swan
i mean, fury plays with what, 40% perma haste either way
i dont think ive seen mine go above like
25
brittle crow
i feel like a god damn snail
young swan
mistype
dense elbow
really?
young swan
35
dense elbow
35 makes more sense, if you play powerful
dense elbow
🫂
old hollow
what talents do we use for raid and m+ ? wowhead is a good source ?
young swan
so stats arent optimal
young swan
what talents do we use for raid and m+ ? wowhead is a good source ?
it is yeah
lean heart
outlaw with low haste my god i would kms
valid pulsar
RR also doesn’t have much value on dummies
yeah good point
novel oasis
outlaw is the leather fury now
coarse nest
How cooked is outlaw?
novel oasis
just like how you get rampage back fast you get ar back fast
lean heart
been playing alt havoc having a ton of fun
apex talent death sweep reset is goated
coarse nest
Outlaw is cool theme and all just insane to play optimally
That faq was a mile long with conditions lmao
Assuming that’s no longer the case?
undone vault
Do they still roll the bones
novel oasis
yea but its only 4 buffs now
echo rapids
Outlaw is now like if fury didn’t have battleshout
undone vault
Haven't looked at another class since vanilla so :3
lean heart
Outlaw is cool theme and all just insane to play optimally
i made this a while back lmao
novel oasis
like odyns fury
coarse nest
i made this a while back lmao
Very real lmao
dense elbow
3.6k before the silly patch I presume
dense elbow
respect the honesty
lean heart
i really enjoyed outlaw last xpac
fiery edge
i almost like outlaw
fiery edge
i went panic mode in dungeon with rotation somehow
young swan
outlaw is the leather fury now
always was
novel oasis
mortal ivy
most the time your pressing sinster strike into pistol shot and then your either Between the eyes if off CD or dispatching your Blade rush on CD and if playing Killing spree using it at full combo points
glad coyote
just stuck at logging into game server
undone vault
Combat Rogues back in the days ❤️
coarse nest
How many roll the bones conditions?
mortal ivy
Combat Rogues back in the days ❤️
when they switched to outlaw in legion is when i made fury warrior 100% miss combat rogue lol
fury took that spot
mortal ivy
How many roll the bones conditions?
roll the dice has changed its easier now you roll it and get a buff its like 1-4 single double tripple or jackpot
coarse nest
Oh so they omega gutted the brain power?
modest condor
brain power?
feral ivy
I’m at work is the servers up?
modest condor
insert brain power chorus copypasta
coarse nest
😆
river nimbus
I’m at work is the servers up?
yes
edgy widget
I’m at work is the servers up?
just quit
oak peak
Anyone able to get the champ necklace from the Amani Renown?
random shadow
i cant even get into the server on area 52 smh
edgy widget
Easiest job I worked at with best pay without a degree
but you can't play wow when servers come up, so totally not worth it
odd crater
Which ZA necklace is BIS
odd crater
Zul'Aman
dense elbow
Neither of em, I presume
odd crater
dense elbow
would take the haste one, just to get mroe hate for gameplay feel
Well, my feelings got through
Grab haste for better gameplay feel
Reap nerfs when?
young swan
odyns buffs when
oak peak
hmm how are you getting the necklace?
odd crater
hmm how are you getting the necklace?
ZA Renown
oak peak
yep i'm rank 9, no neck
odd crater
I took Haste/Crit, hopefully that was correct lol
young swan
honestly the only reason i dont want them to nerf reap is because i KNOW they wont compensate properly elsewhere
odd crater
yep i'm rank 9, no neck
Talk to renown vendor, quest came up with reset
oak peak
hmm ill try relogging
dense elbow
That is a very realistic and fair take, Xan. Yet, I rather see the world burn around me, than have BS and OF beat by reap
young swan
i can understand the sentiment at least
oak peak
Talk to renown vendor, quest came up with reset
hmm yeah no neck. no quest. i'm confused
dense elbow
No comment about ST from me
odd crater
hmm yeah no neck. no quest. i'm confused
Not sure what to tell ya. I'm Renown 11 with Amani, and it showed up
chrome plover
hmm yeah no neck. no quest. i'm confused
Are you Eu
oak peak
US
chrome plover
oh hm
oak peak
Renown rank 9
chrome plover
Also NA
yeah i was only asking because EU reset is tomorrow so if he was EU it'd make sense
chrome plover
surely not
oak peak
hm shouldnt be. have nearly every quest done in ZA.
possibly just bugged. but its both my and my wife's account. little odd
odd crater
Sorry dude, not sure what else to tell ya
digital mauve
https://addons.wago.io/addons/defensive-stance-reminder
It doesnt work for me? I have download the .zip and extratcd it in Addons but in game nothing happens when I switch stance
edgy widget
It doesnt work for me? I have download the .zip and extratcd it in Addons but in...
tbf you shouldn't really need it anymore, since DStance can be tracked on the CDM now
slate light
the spark quest is meaning the reset week right? so from tommorow for eu
echo rapids
tbf you shouldn't really need it anymore, since DStance can be tracked on the CD...
I loved having a huge shield picture on my screen to remind me though
edgy widget
then use the addon idc
plain eagle
wh doesnt recklessness actibvate thunderblast anymore?
edgy widget
its a talent that is not commonly used
oak peak
is there a reason i cant find the 'Unity Against the Void' quest? shows up on my map, but no where to be found
spring pumice
Are our apex talents good? Fun?
echo rapids
Are our apex talents good? Fun?
Passive but they make our burst better. Longer reck, cheaper and more powerful rampage during it
spring pumice
So like we get empowered. Also seems good if the fight is longer to get overlapping rampage
delicate thicket
when is blizzard gonna make battleshout and mystic touch 3%?
empty mirage
i told our tank in this dung hes going the wrong way, got vote kicked now im on a 30m deserter lmao
sinful socket
Is Crucible of Erratic Energies (246) that bad? Raidbots says a Vessel of Tortured Souls (230) is a 2.2% dps increase. My warrior is lvl 229.
olive wraith
when is blizzard gonna make battleshout and mystic touch 3%?
Y
delicate thicket
Y
hot chasm
quick question, what ilvl am i replacing reshii wraps?
delicate thicket
to give them parity with arcane int/chaos brand @olive wraith
olive wraith
to give them parity with arcane int/chaos brand <@296160466877677569>
Int isn’t the same as ap
But also why do we need parity
delicate thicket
would be better for m+
olive wraith
How
delicate thicket
specs get tuned around raids
then you don't have the buffs in m+
rough
battle shout nerf is bad for warriors
but mystic touch nerf is good for warriors
makes it easier to plug and play stuff as well
olive wraith
Disagree
olive wraith
But to each their own
sullen dove
they already did that mistake
changed mystic touch to i think 8% before some patch of tww
delicate thicket
mystic touch going to 3% would absolutely be positive for warriors in m+
sullen dove
and within a week entier community said "fuck no do not do that"
and they changed it back
sullen dove
it barely matters
delicate thicket
it would be better
sullen dove
2% is not enough to care about bringing a monk and warrior at the same time
delicate thicket
Yeah its just silly
spring pumice
Mystic touch is 3%, as is Battle.
delicate thicket
Oh
sullen dove
bttle shout is 5% (now 8)
idk i thought myst would still be too but maybe not
either way its pretty irrelevant which it is
olive wraith
8 is only personal
dense elbow
They fixed battle shout of warriors overwriting eachother to get that 3% buff yet?
delicate thicket
Mystic touch is 3%, as is Battle.
its not
but yeah I think it'd be nice for a bunch of the melee specs to come closer to their max dps potential without requiring exact comps
rare garnet
They fixed battle shout of warriors overwriting eachother to get that 3% buff ye...
Yeah make them so bad u only take 1
rare garnet
but yeah I think it'd be nice for a bunch of the melee specs to come closer to t...
Don’t casters have the same requirements?
delicate thicket
well arcane int and chaos brand are 3% each @rare garnet
sullen dove
the % values of the buffs rly dont matter it just depends on which classes are strongest
like youd always run mage dh with another caster most likely
delicate thicket
yeah fury would be stronger in any comp without monk if they nerfed monks buff
not sure what ur point is
sullen dove
by like 2%
if anything
but nerfing them assumes fury would get buffed
which might not happen
rare garnet
Seems rare to be in a position you don’t have your buffs
delicate thicket
idk
m+ its frequent @rare garnet
having less strict comps because you can ignore buffs would be nice
its not going to have some insane impact but overall it should be a positive change to have the warrior/monk buff be smaller
echo rapids
having less strict comps because you can ignore buffs would be nice
Blizzard doesn’t like that, it’s how you end up with triple rogue
No buffs means you just stack the best spec
unborn delta
i mean
plain eagle
I’m bugging I before maintenance I used recklessness to activate thunder blast? Did they patch that to remove it?
unborn delta
avatar
echo rapids
Do you have avatar and reck macro together?
young swan
did u have snap induction talented
cause thats the only way reck procs tblast
if u swapped to flashing skies then it obviously wouldnt anymore
delicate thicket
No buffs means you just stack the best spec
so make mage and dh 5%?
young swan
so make mage and dh 5%?
they got nerfed because they buff far more specs than atk power/phys debuff
thats it
plain eagle
Hmmmm maybe I changed something in the mountain thane tree
That’s all I remember
Cuz I did a import from wow head and it changed something there
young swan
this is the only thing that would cause what you're talking about
but the recommended builds dont take snap induction
so
plain eagle
Ok that’s probably why then
Just curious why? Seems so useful
Been playing warrior for a week so still noonish
Noobish
Got to 81 so fast
young swan
u dont press reck very frequently compared to how often you press tblast and the relative value of all blasts calling a lightning bolt is way higher than just getting an extra blast (that doesnt call a bolt)
sudden tusk
this is the only thing that would cause what you're talking about
still never made sense to me that avatar of the storm give you max stacks and theres just a talent thats like. yeah man wana overcap because you try to use cds together?
young swan
yeah snap induction is just like
fundamentally flawed when you look at the rest of the kit
bad talent
plain eagle
I see I see also another question. When facing huge mobs in dungeons should you still use your single target skills like rampage etc along with whirlwind when they proc?
echo rapids
so make mage and dh 5%?
Int is generally a bigger buff than attack power
plain eagle
Or just do whirlwind until there is is like 2 people left
unborn delta
tclap and tblast do a similar amount of dmg now also
delicate thicket
the magic debuffs were tuned down because of m+