you mean the buff when you successfully kick something?
#fury
gilded pawn
marble pilot
Probably a debuff on the target not a buff on yourself right?
gilded pawn
yeah could be a debuff
marble pilot
And last I heard yeah rampaging ruin is still ass
restive fiber
Probably a debuff on the target not a buff on yourself right?
thank you
rotund ginkgo
does anyone know how big apex talents are for us?
frozen field
Any of the darkmoon decks decent for Fury?
smoky vale
does anyone know how big apex talents are for us?
required
restive fiber
i like fury apex talents more rampage damage more strength and more burst duration
dry talon
just opinion what will u craft first weapon or cloak/bracers ?
fading sky
just opinion what will u craft first weapon or cloak/bracers ?
Weap
fading sky
Who cares
young swan
does anyone know how big apex talents are for us?
large
rotund ginkgo
ok but HOW MUCH
runic violet
why do i have odyn's fury. I don't even have artifact weapon equipped
nvm dumb question
lol
lean tulip
comming back to wow no colossus smash no avatar my burst macro have 2 line, im sad
gilded pawn
fury never had smash right
lean tulip
U mean that I played arms at a point ? I don't believe you
dense elbow
it is a good lookin' sword, why change it
hybrid yew
is our apexis not reducing our rampage rage cost? it still says 80 even though i have the talent that says reduce it by 30
summer quail
is our apexis not reducing our rampage rage cost? it still says 80 even though i...
only in reck
summer quail
apex is pretty strong. just boring
hybrid yew
i guess it just feels too boring to be strong
dense elbow
Yep, it is our main gripe with the apex, it is boring.
Yet, it could have been worse, like with some - where they actively dont take it, as it is a DPS loss doing so
summer quail
it does make it so overcapping becomes real bad tho so i'm happy with it
upbeat ember
Yep, it is our main gripe with the apex, it is boring.
Yet, it could have been...
some classes have an apex like that?
fading sky
Arms
dense elbow
BDK was one of em, then there are some that dont take all the talents - just parts, like arms
fading sky
🤣
upbeat ember
kek
dense elbow
Pwarrior too, if I remember correctly, havent cared to check if there is any changes
Fury is eating good when it comes to apex
ours just is boring but fine
upbeat ember
ah yeah that 3rd passive is underwhelming for arms
dense elbow
As I understood it, it desynced things, so it was just wasted
upbeat ember
funny
dense elbow
Surely
I will be honest, if it wasnt fixed during the beta, after being called out day 1
fading sky
Arms.works its just bad🤣
dense elbow
I doubt it will be fixed
hybrid yew
feels like haste is more important than ever, i feel slower in my rage generation and cooldowns compared to earlier in war within
and to build stacks of the rampage rage thing
3 is like the highest i can get
summer quail
and to build stacks of the rampage rage thing
you don't play around it. whatever stacks you get you get
gleaming crag
I just feel incredibly weak with fury
frank dawn
feels like haste is more important than ever, i feel slower in my rage generatio...
are you playing powerful enrage? Frenzy was being used more early in TWW compared to powerful being recommended atm
With low gear I think powerful kind of feels awful tbh, regardless of whatever the numbers might say
upbeat ember
ive been playing with frenzied enrage
dense elbow
you don't play around it. whatever stacks you get you get
No, tell ppl they need 4!
And enjoy the chaos
hybrid yew
are you playing powerful enrage? Frenzy was being used more early in TWW compare...
using frenzied
frank dawn
using frenzied
Outside of Recklessness the spec is definitely slower overall compared TWW. Not a ton slower, but a bit
plays a bit slower outside of Reck, while being more involved during Reck is my 2 cents
past wyvern
Hey, it's me hallucinating or sudden death is a bit not consistant on giving me back bladestorm cd ? Sometime feels like it dosn't work, sometime i see it giving me back 10s. Also how do we deal when reck is just up while bladestorm is still on 30-40s cd ?
kind python
Are M0's out on full release or is it this Wednesday?
summer quail
Hey, it's me hallucinating or sudden death is a bit not consistant on giving me ...
you press reck and then you press that bladestorm when that is up. coz reck will be on more than a 30 sec cd
molten wing
Are M0's out on full release or is it this Wednesday?
full release
hybrid yew
we're focusing on bloodthirst instead of RB this time around too right?
gleaming crag
so wait is it still only 1 spark a week ?
or do we get 2 sparks a aweek
4 weeks to make a weapon is brutal
summer quail
4 weeks to make a weapon is brutal
been that way for a long time now
gleaming crag
so since no penalty for 2h v 1h anymore we just craft 2 1h and say fuck it ? lol
summer quail
so since no penalty for 2h v 1h anymore we just craft 2 1h and say fuck it ? lol
that better be bait
hybrid yew
that sounds meme
coarse nest
Absolutely not
faint hearth
that better be bait
summer quail
i think i'd rather fall for that bait over it not being bait
oblique pond
so at what point to i start to replace my mythic tier set items?
like at what item lvl difference? if i get a dungeon drop that is lets say 20 ilvls higher
summer quail
so at what point to i start to replace my mythic tier set items?
tier gets disabled at level 90 so you just replace with higher ilvl gear
smoky vale
no fun allowed!
summer quail
they learned from tww when we used s3 df set until they disabled it
smoky vale
peak
sullen dove
yea i mean we used s3 df set even in df it was just better than the clown car voted s2 set
but like should be fine to keep it while leveling
but yea just turn it off at 90
like the fuck r we doin
insta cap your knees the moment you hit 81 for absolutely no reason
smoky vale
stupid eu voters
hybrid yew
uwu i reached 5 stacks, for like 2 seconds
lean tulip
Hey guys what is the executionner state from deadly focus on the slayer tree
olive wraith
so since no penalty for 2h v 1h anymore we just craft 2 1h and say fuck it ? lol
Fun fact there was no penalty the last 2 expac
Hope this helps
lean tulip
2h give more stats no ?
hollow leaf
when do I get to play since I don't have ea
lean tulip
monday to tuesday monday if u are na
hollow leaf
tuesday it is yippee
lean tulip
same here 😄
supple heath
what does Archi mean about enjoy 3/4 of our apex talents?
glad hill
What’s the conditions for SD? Hitting execute every proc or hitting two stacks?
sullen dove
pmuch every proc now i think
analog magnet
is fury still any% carpal tunnel speedrun
olive wraith
Never was chief
analog magnet
i dunno i felt my hands go numb plenty during df in keys
sullen dove
yea i mean u dont have to hit your keys 4 times a second
green pagoda
is there a macro to throw spear on cursor i was just looking but i dont see it
sullen tendon
i dunno i felt my hands go numb plenty during df in keys
back to marksman for you
green pagoda
i figured it out
graceful canyon
Is rampaging beerserker 2 and 3 bugged it looks like rampage still costs 80
NVm I just cant read
sullen cloak
are any of the darkmoon decks worth buying?
heavy dock
yo wtf they borked goblin glider? it says target is too high lvl when i wanna put the enchant xD
plush maple
yea i mean u dont have to hit your keys 4 times a second
Someone clearly isn't cultured HueHUe
I joke but yeah kinda ingrained to spam
Main thing wow has going for it with its engine is that gameplay is really smooth, specially in low latency conditions and the more haste you have so spamming keeps you casting and smoothly flowing in combat so you aren't holding yourself back with human delay
hollow leaf
is there a macro to throw spear on cursor i was just looking but i dont see it
/cast [@cursor] Champion's Spear I'd assume
green pagoda
I did it manually it didnt work
but then i took it from the heroic leap and work just fine
hollow garnet
Is raidbots updated for fury for midnight?
sullen cloak
any thoughts on the darkmoon trinkets?
spice ingot
Is raidbots updated for fury for midnight?
says low accuracy or whatever so I'm skeptical that its working correctly.
next canopy
he's married now
Haha
I’m watching Bajeera just to see what new expansion is like
Need to watch some @mossy fox
winter shoal
Is raidbots updated for fury for midnight?
Should be, you might need to use mimiron.raidbots instead but I think they're more or less in sync at this point
tidal beacon
during reck do we just slam rampage as much as possible over bt?
twin plover
i'd assume yea, it feels the best on st and aoe for me, gotta dig into warr anyways o7
low violet
bloodthirst ahead of rampage unless you're about to cap rage
olive wraith
Aren’t they gone
icy whale
so i just returned to wow (level 50) and i'm looking for guides to set up all the add-ons and so on. now many people mention that alot changes for midnight... does that mean all i'm setting up now might be wasted after full release?
i remember using weakaura, bagnon, auctionator, tsm, raider io, details and so on, but is it worth setting all that up now?
winter shoal
addon changes are already in
so anything you're downloading and setting up now will be fine
icy whale
okay great, thank you
is there any addon, that is especially used by fury warriors? all i remember having back then was special weakauras for my buffs/rage, not much changed probably, right?
winter shoal
One consequence of the addon changes is that a ton of stuff that used to be weakauras are now discrete addons
Easiest thing imo would be to go to critcake's discord and look at his UI channel
Luxthos also has preset profiles for every spec I think if you just go to his website (they're free IIRC)
icy whale
using curseforge should be fine right?
winter shoal
Yeah
icy whale
okay thanks for the help
winter shoal
Some warrior-specific things you might want are defensive stance reminder https://addons.wago.io/addons/defensive-stance-reminder and IWW tracker (this one has some issues but is good enough for most cases) https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/iwt-improved-whirlwind-tracker-simplified
icy whale
i wonder how raiding will be like now that they apparently limited infos for the addons
i'll check them out 👍
hollow leaf
it'll be fine
sullen dove
theres no horrible reason to use adventure crests rn right
figure using some to craft blue weapon up to like 230 is prolly good
be able to enter heroic dungeons then
undone flower
I got that from a WQ
sullen dove
well NOT ALL OF US ARE SO FORTUNATE
undone flower
But I would still prolly do that and craft, if I was not a gamer
sullen dove
i mean considering m0s will be like 240
feel like no way it matters
so im just gonna do it
gg bricked patch if it does
eugh it was 80 tho? bit cringe
but w/e
undone flower
well NOT ALL OF US ARE SO FORTUNATE
Just saying world quests drops 230 ilvl, with 2 weeks in the future, you prolly have everything
undone flower
And it doesn’t matter, stinkers just want to be highest ilvl to flex their balls on the first heroic boss
calm swallow
Any of the Darkmoon decks looking good for us early on?
winter shoal
so what about thunder blast outside of avatar
Same prio as TC I assume
brittle crow
is there any way to track my movespeed now that WAs are dead
summer quail
so what about thunder blast outside of avatar
huh that does seem weird. would think tblast2 would be over rampage unless overcapping
brittle crow
huh that does seem weird. would think tblast2 would be over rampage unless overc...
apex prob changes that
but why is it not above bloodthirst
summer quail
apex prob changes that
idk as long as you don't waste rage you end up with the same amount of apex stacks. can cross reference with maxroll to see what prio revvez has
undone flower
huh that does seem weird. would think tblast2 would be over rampage unless overc...
Idk apex seems to really want to rampage during reck
summer quail
Idk apex seems to really want to rampage during reck
yea during reck is another matter. the whole thing was about tblast prio, avatar is gonna last longer than reck and they have the same cd
undone flower
Ah if you mean why tblast in avatar is not above overcap rampage, AM is imo the principal reason
smoky vale
theyd never desync though
undone flower
as long as u dont overcap
Tblast in avatar is above simple rampages
undone flower
reck is just longer
You increases avatar duration each tblast
But yes, avatar is in cd when you press it, your rampages reduce the cd while you are in avatar
summer quail
Ah if you mean why tblast in avatar is not above overcap rampage, AM is imo the ...
no i mean this whole conversation was about tblast prio outside of avatar. the guide is unclear about it and i personally would think tblast2 would be prio over everything(over non cds to be clear) unless you're gonna cap rage or aren't enraged
undone flower
It might be linked with the jokes about macro tblast cancel auras after the last tuning patch
I need to read the apl on the GitHub to have a full picture tbf
brittle crow
if anything, it feels like it shouldnt matter?
summer quail
yea i haven't read the apl either
brittle crow
but surely you should prioritize tblast above bloodthirst w/ burst of power
cuz u could high roll and overcap tblast stacks
or is the trick just the fact that blast doesnt actually hit thar hard?
didnt they never fix that
undone flower
if anything, it feels like it shouldnt matter?
And probably target counts change stuff, but I didn’t read the apl to do questing or normal dungeon ngl
brittle crow
And probably target counts change stuff, but I didn’t read the apl to do questin...
i dont believe in target counts
unborn delta
i feel rly weak killing elites
undone flower
no i mean this whole conversation was about tblast prio outside of avatar. the g...
maybe it will help you with 2 stack tblast being above simple rampages
vale crown
is there an easy way to track enrage now?
molten wing
i mean its easily tracked with the new Cooldown Manager , that's what i am using
west parcel
is warrior good guys
summer quail
maybe it will help you with 2 stack tblast being above simple rampages
that makes alot of sense
orchid iron
mortal ivy
is warrior good guys
Fury slayer feels good and doing good tan about 4 heroics now feels good! Reap is procing good bloodbath hitting hard. Feels pretty solid
young swan
is warrior good guys
its like
fine
nothing really matters rn, tuning not coming till raid opens
fiery edge
still loving slayer in midnight 
calm swallow
Bless Your Heart
brittle crow
🥀
finite jetty
gnome fury warrior looks so stupid man, wth is this lmao
rare garnet
gnome fury warrior looks so stupid man, wth is this lmao
insane to play gnome warrior and not have pink hair
queen flame
hey guys, what do you think. how are things looking for us? with small tuning, you guys think we can be one of the better melees in m+? just DPS wise... or are we already?
sudden tusk
🔮
a single tuning patch could launch us into the statosphere or 6 feet under no clue til 17th/24th
fury is currently solid for raid/M+ tho
its just behind the op specs
queen flame
devourer demo aug?
rare garnet
arms arms arms
sudden tusk
unholy devour and aug are all very strong a warlock spec is also v good rn
but they are also so far ahead i expect they will get nerfed adn we will get buffed
so eh it wont really matter
keen kindle
is warrior good guys
Fury yes, prot probably, arms...is a meme spec until the 17th
No joke arms is probably the worst spec in the game rn.
cedar shuttle
fiery edge
Slury 
rare garnet
Fuyer?
keen kindle
I mean
summer quail
but they are also so far ahead i expect they will get nerfed adn we will get buf...
i expect devourer to stay OP. rest will get nerfed
keen kindle
Its not worse
summer quail
it's slurry and everyone knows it
keen kindle
That sounds like a racist ice cream
sullen dove
ragey
keen kindle
Jesus
sullen dove
negative aura unluck last like 3 dungeons 2 missin pices
nocturne bluff
I am a weary traveler. I come in search of knowledge. Right now, my single target feels like ass with both Thane and Slayer.... I'm at like 21k ST dummy (level 90)
does that sound low?
Cuz i've seen demo warlocks and bm hunters doing like 50k on normal dungeon bosses while I struggle to hit 30 with group buffs on
slayer is ~21k dummy, thane obviously being more of a M+ AOE spec doing around 18k dummy. I have no enchants and my item level is 194. I don't trust sims rn
sullen dove
yea i mean 194 isnt completely the hottest, chances are other ppl have a bit more gear and are possibly also just better classes
but like a near full set of 201 gear pretty readily available from basic profession leveling and once u have gear that high world quests start to be dropping gear around the 220's or so
would maybe suggest trying to just either do some prof stuff or see if any armor is on the AH for cheap that could fill out some lower ilvl slots and then get some big uppies from world quests
sudden tusk
without M+ you basically cannot farm correct stats or do much of anything
sullen dove
but other than gear i mean yea idk st feels a lil stinky i do like 30-35k most of the time on bosses
sudden tusk
im like 215 or something but my stats are all over the place
keen kindle
I wouldnt worry too much about current dps
sullen dove
but just like dont overcap rage and try not to let bb be off cd for too long, wanna like always be hittin ramp/bt/exe if slayer/tc if thane like on cd
sudden tusk
sims are fine we will get tuned in a couple weeks
sullen dove
i do kinda explode on aoe as thane in some groups
feels kinda epic to pull like 100k+ for a consistent ish amount of time every like 45s-1min
rate stats @smadsmox
slow wolf
Well demonology warlock is overturned. On beta it was doing roughly 35% more DPS than the other specs
keen kindle
I think id be more concerned about regpnizing mistakes so you can fix them before were in content that matters
undone flower
rate stats @smadsmox
Owned by a lvl 80 tank 100%
nocturne bluff
Yeah, normal dungeons were a bit demoralizing until i went thane aoe build. Definitely got numbers up in the 75-110k range on big pulls but thats with cooldowns active so every 2-3 pulls i get to see fireworks. My major concern is really just raiding with fury. Slayer ST feels kinda flacid to me and Thane isn't even in the conversation outside of target rich environments.
but I guess we should (hopefully TM) get some love before first raid tier
keen kindle
For normal dungeons damage dosent matter
Like evreything dies to a collective sneeze from the party
I just think youre overly worried is all
sudden tusk
rate stats @smadsmox
@smobsmishblishfish/Farming 1000 death essence
wicked scarab
Are any of the Darkmoon cards good trinkets to start with?
nocturne bluff
Are any of the Darkmoon cards good trinkets to start with?
They’re super cheap on AH rn, at least on Illidan. I’d say a strong starter
wicked scarab
They’re super cheap on AH rn, at least on Illidan. I’d say a strong starter
Nice! Happen to know which ones are actually good for fury?
slim coral
hey guys, is rend good or pure bait ?
its ok
hazy rose
hey guys, is rend good or pure bait ?
If you enjoy it, use it. It’s just okay
slim coral
hey guys, is rend good or pure bait ?
Rend/Wrecking Throw > is worth very little (~0.6%) over just straight RB, and prioritizing RB is smoother early on
straight from archi himself
lean tulip
I mean 1 less button to smash sound like a win to me
hazy rose
I find it really fun how we can mog to be using daggers now
kinda confusing but very fun
lean tulip
I took rend cause of the bloodborne effect and felt like it was making a difference that just a if it match its good or something
eternal canopy
what does this new hero talent do
deadly focus
what in the world is executioner?
eternal canopy
tyty
sour anvil
as Thane there is absolutely no room for customization, is that intended? it's basically locked in these talents
not to mention Resonant voice whose sole existence is a joke, is it ever picked anywhere?
sour anvil
f 🙁
mystic kayak
How do we handle reck now? I want to spam rampage to stack berserk but assume I should be using TB on CD as well as BT to get more TB procs to extend avatar as long as possible
night ginkgo
Am I blind or neither wowhead nor icy veins guide have an opener example?
gaunt anvil
guys, am i seeing wrong or for M+ mountain thane wowhead talents we dont actually use Enraged Regeneration?
south kayak
Yes
cerulean kayak
What’s the dmf trinket called?
raven tulip
I was checking the Maxroll Fury Warrior M+ guide, and it seems like Raging Blow is completely omitted from the multi-target rotation. Is this actually correct? It's hard to believe.
plush maple
I was checking the Maxroll Fury Warrior M+ guide, and it seems like Raging Blow ...
Naaaah they actually fucked RB that hard
marble pilot
Doesn't proc anything. Most if not all builds take the bt talents and base ww actually hits decently hard.
But I just roll thane in m+ anyway. So never thought about it
plush maple
What’s everyone betting on, WW getting nerfed or RB getting buffed 
I think they’ll nerf WW
marble pilot
Everyone playing thane in m+ so blizz doesn't notice.
Then they buff ww again to try to bring slayer up pushing rb even further back
digital mauve
so is slayer for mythic + viable? what's htem sot fun between thane and slayer on MT now that we've lost reap the storm proc from season 3?
oblique thistle
so is slayer for mythic + viable? what's htem sot fun between thane and slayer o...
Sudden death always procs reap now so its fairly competitive now
marble pilot
And sudden death is a guaranteed reap isn't it. So you don't lose that many
digital mauve
so it"s ok to go full slayer on both ST and MT on high keys without trolling the game? Cuz I found Slayer less clunky and more fun than Thane. Also I can drop Rend with slayer right? It's not that big of a deal?
oblique thistle
so it"s ok to go full slayer on both ST and MT on high keys without trolling the...
In ST sure, in aoe it starts to become a bit more important
And because of your ST being better, its fine to play slayer
digital mauve
I hate having to manage rend on multipel targets please
raven tulip
Damn, that’s crazy. by the way, is Maxroll generally the most reliable guide for Fury? It looks way more detailed than others I've seen.
marble pilot
You can do it sure. They are fairly close right last I saw.
Blizz did say tuning on the 17th so that can change
oblique thistle
Damn, that’s crazy. by the way, is Maxroll generally the most reliable guide for...
I personally always use the wowhead guide
oblique thistle
You can do it sure. They are fairly close right last I saw.
Blizz did say tunin...
Im hoping for some RB buffs and thats it. Fury is in a solid position right now, no need to shake it up too much
Arms on the other hand...
raven tulip
I noticed the rotation priority is slightly different between Wowhead and Maxroll. As a warrior newbie, which one is generally considered more accurate or better to follow?
oblique thistle
I dont know who authors Maxroll so im not sure
Im inclined to say wowhead because archimtiros maintains that guide, and he pulls from his own knowledge as well as other theorycrafters from this discord
marble pilot
Yeah hopefully just numbers for us. Nothing rotationally crazy.
I would like to use rampaging ruin just because it's new. But I won't be sad if we don't.
oblique thistle
Super knowledgeable about warrior as a whole
oblique thistle
Yeah hopefully just numbers for us. Nothing rotationally crazy.
I would like to...
We do not
Rampaging ruin is very bad
Cool talent in design, very poor execution
The issue is that it replaces rampage damage, and it does significantly less damage than a standard rampage
So the talent doesn't actually start pulling ahead of a standard whirlwind cleaved rampage in damage unless you have very large target counts
And if you ever fat finger whirlwind in ST, you just lost a ton of rampage damage for basically no reason
raven tulip
Thanks for the answers, everyone! really helped me out.
marble pilot
Rampaging ruin is very bad
Yeah I know it's ass. Saying it could be fun if it was viable.
oblique thistle
I agree with you there, having a softcapped aoe option for fury would be really neat especially for slayer
But the execution was off
marble pilot
I like the concept but they missed the mark bad.
Imo it has to be even in st and just scale up in aoe.
It's already talent point expensive to get to
oblique thistle
And there's others who dont like it either. Some people have advocated for the talent to just go away entirely because our target cap is "part of our identity" and it reminds them of other soft capped spenders like divine storm
marble pilot
That's a whole different debate. And I'm mixed on it.
I don't like target caps but somewhat understand why they exist.
But I also feel like if you are target capped you should excel at that cap not just be equal to uncapped or larger cap people
Also I like prio/funnel for capped classes but that's another debate
oblique thistle
Thats a tuning issue, the issue is they never seem to get that tuning right
Like I would hit 5 target dummies as fury and go "yeah this spec owns on its target cap"
Then I would switch to warlock
As long as fury is tuned overall well then I dont care about our damage profile
We are not season 2 tww levels behind anyone, thats honestly more than enough for me at this point
high echo
rancid timber
are we holding reck for bs if bs is not up in like 10s?
sullen dove
I mean at max lvl reck lasts 18sec so prolly fine to just send it and you’ll still get to use it during reck
the more uncertain way is if bs is up but reck is some time away cuz am would get you the reck soonish but feel like sitting on bs too long suske
heady wedge
Is fury doing ok ? I feel it Kinda clunky
heady wedge
Maybe im doing something wrong in the rotation @rancid timber
radiant plank
the more uncertain way is if bs is up but reck is some time away cuz am would ge...
i think u are gonna hold BS if reck cd is lower than 40s
random hill
Does the talent that reduce Rampage coast rage is bugged?
sullen dove
no its only during reck
heady wedge
Whats bs ?
heady wedge
Wut
burnt oxide
heady wedge
Wat
burnt oxide
What spins fast with weapons with a cooldown
heady wedge
marble pilot
It looks like the punch meme to me.
pure echo
look at my guy lmao
marble pilot
Like one punch to the frog dude and most recently the highschool kid
random hill
HAHAHA
marble pilot
This one. Dunno why the quality is so bad
random hill
100% accurate
dense drum
For some reason my Battle shout is showing on delve npc healthbar, cant find a way to remove it
burnt oxide
bs is kinda BS
leaden tartan
why does this look like jafar as a genie from aladin?
Oh man for me all i can see is this
dense drum
A shame odyns fury doest not give whirlwind cleave
stoic loom
A shame odyns fury doest not give whirlwind cleave
if only there was a talent that made it do that
its ok, i guess 3% attack speed in berserker stance is also pretty cool huh
sullen tendon
Still fucked up that our apex talents is just damage buffs and resource reduction and other specs get like “when you spend raging arcane fury charges your targets body explodes into echos of sun and void which deal radiant damage to all nearby enemies and applies suntouch plague which deals damage over 40 seconds and makes them take 20% more damage from your abilities.”
I do appreciate more focus on rampage though I would like for it to be our main focus again instead of raging blow or bt.
No haste feels like shit right now though
echo rapids
Still fucked up that our apex talents is just damage buffs and resource reductio...
I mean isn’t that also just a passive proc?
calm swallow
I have 6% haste right now and it makes me wanna die lol
sullen dove
Still fucked up that our apex talents is just damage buffs and resource reductio...
a buff and rage reduction(more damage) vs more damage and damage taken increase (also a buff)
echo rapids
That reads “when you do the thing you were already going to do, some more damage happens”
Apex either change your rotation/playstyle/decision making or they don’t
sullen tendon
a buff and rage reduction(more damage) vs more damage and damage taken increase ...
Ok but the difference is others have visual or rotational impacts
We get a tiny red circle on our feet and just do everything the exact same anyways
sullen dove
yea but sometimes u can press 3 rampages in a row and it’s fun
and does anything rotational change for them if it’s just dmg and a buff
maybe visually looks better yea we kinda got nothing there
sullen tendon
Would we do that over bb and cb though
echo rapids
Ok but the difference is others have visual or rotational impacts
What you just described isn’t a rotation change though
sullen dove
cb I’m psure hot dogshit rn
but yea would prolly wanna bb/tc/maaaybe execute first
So long as u don’t ovecap rage
sullen dove
eh I mean that was just like stolen valor reap merchant
most of that power got given to sudden death which feels good
sullen tendon
I want them to bring back s3 sl whirlwind spam
echo rapids
Brotha no
sullen dove
losing 2set is a bit more annoyin but doesn’t matter since we don’t play bs st anyway
sullen tendon
wtf you mean no
sullen dove
finally based Bobby take
sullen tendon
That shit was fun
sullen dove
mbg ww 
plush zephyr
I want them to bring back s3 sl whirlwind spam
Bobby is the Skip Bayless of wow takes
sullen tendon
Merciless bone grinder was awesome
sullen tendon
Spin 2 win seasons are always great
That’s why tww s3 was fun
That’s why s3 df was fun
That’s why s3 sl was fun
Odyns fury spam
Ww spam
Bladestorm spam
sullen dove
Not gonna be much different than our current tier
sullen tendon
I liked just pressing a giant one button macro
sullen dove
With odyns cdr
bitter palm
/castsequence 99 parse
sullen tendon
Put mbg into slayer or make the s3 tww set a talent
sullen dove
and yea amirdrassil was like made for 45/90s cds
Sudden death proccing reap is basically the set already
just can’t spam it but don’t need to spam it
reap good
undone flower
that's a dogshit apex
sullen tendon
Either make rb fun to press like in s3 tww or just make it a filler button like it should be. No more raging blow buff talents
sullen dove
that's a dogshit apex
goat
echo rapids
Dunno slayer feels fine
sullen tendon
Half our tree is wasted on rb talents
sullen dove
I mean it flip flops every season which buttons better lol
sullen tendon
And half our tree is wasted on bt talrnts
sullen dove
rb is a filler now basically
sudden tusk
Thanes prio is just weird rn because of tblast extension
sullen tendon
Yes that’s the problem
sullen dove
and within a couple weeks it might be top priority
no reason to gut half the spec trees talents for a non permanent priority of buttons
sullen tendon
They have 0 room to actually make interesting talents because most of them are just “make rb/bt do more damage”
smoky vale
and within a couple weeks it might be top priority
cogtdyphlsgFkb bcjxhlng
sullen dove
yea a little
echo rapids
Our apex makes our burst stronger which is arguably a big need for us
sullen tendon
I just want some variety
sullen dove
think we have less variety or interestingness in class tree tho I think most classes are like 60-80% buffing talents
sullen tendon
So tired of the flip flop every season
sullen dove
just the extra 20% some classes do a lot better
sullen tendon
For 10 years
sullen dove
I think less than rb/bt thing is that there is next to 0 distinction from fury aoe and st
it’s a single talent swap
echo rapids
Talent trees are busted now, almost every class has a fairly simple priority system with like 5 buttons but we have like 130 talents across 3 trees
undone flower
They have 0 room to actually make interesting talents because most of them are j...
they can't make only interesting/gameplay changing talents, see 80% of them as the 1% dex nodes in poe but words
sullen dove
where like dev evoker swaps like 5 talents buffing disintegrate and gets a ton of pyre/deep breath buffs and firestorm procs
echo rapids
Of course they will be bloated with filler
sullen tendon
They need to lean more into stuff like rampaging ruin
valid pulsar
that we do not have enrage regeneration sucks
sullen tendon
Rampaging ruin is a step in the right direction
valid pulsar
what have they done to warrior man
sullen tendon
But it sucks right now
sullen dove
if RR still like did the single target but that can’t be cleaved to 5 would prolly be useable
but the st loss is just brainless
echo rapids
where like dev evoker swaps like 5 talents buffing disintegrate and gets a ton o...
Yeah but this is one of those things that will be simmed and you just do one
sullen dove
aside from the 5tar loss
sullen tendon
Put mbg into rampaging ruin
smoky vale
thoughts on what i said last night ish
sullen tendon
After bladestorm your rr goes crazy
smoky vale
i was smashing my keyboard in rage
sullen dove
For 10 sec after a bs your ramp hits all targets
sullen tendon
Give us skull banner and/ or conq banner as well while your at it blizz
sullen tendon
I’m going to lose my mind again if blizzard does nothing for fury’s utility again this expac and I have to apply to 200 groups to get invited to 18s
coarse nest
Our utility is fine lol
dense elbow
BobbyB back to complain about not getting invites. A bit early, no?
coarse nest
We have kick stun and aoe stun
coarse nest
We do not need exactly the same shit as other specs what we have is plenty
dense elbow
Interpose, Rally, Silence
uneven path
We have kick stun and aoe stun
And range "kick"
coarse nest
We just need damage
dense elbow
We got stuff for days
smoky vale
rally got buffed
dense elbow
Not as useless as your take on utility
coarse nest
Damage is literally the determining factor for meta, then they take whatever utility that comp has and make it work
Yall copium with the utility invites
uneven path
Not as useless as your take on utility
xdd
coarse nest
That doesn’t happen
hazy rose
lol
sullen tendon
No one is going to take our utility over someone else’s
dense elbow
I cba to this another year 
someone else bonk BobbyB for me
undone flower
warlock meta : it's those damn portal techs
sullen tendon
They won’t take us because we don’t have brez or lust and other specs provide more utility or damage over us
smoky vale
no its just damage
dense elbow
The problem is the dam
sullen tendon
Unless fury is the top damaging spec no one will take us ever
sullen tendon
And we are never going to always be top damage
sullen tendon
It does
sullen tendon
Every group requires bres and lust
hazy rose
if they suck yeah
dense elbow
If you think hero will do anything but give you more options in tank spec, u tripping
We got CR items, dont worry - and noone bench you for CR
Only dam
sullen tendon
You guys can’t base every aspect of gameplay off rwf and mdi
dense elbow
Why are we discussing this again tho, Bobby. We did this last time and the time before that
coarse nest
You guys can’t base every aspect of gameplay off rwf and mdi
Okay sure I agree, and what gets you invited to a random 17 key you need for io? Damage
sullen tendon
Yea and I’m right and you guys are blinded by rwf and mdi people
coarse nest
Go tell max we suck pls
coarse nest
Need arms buffs
sullen tendon
Okay sure I agree, and what gets you invited to a random 17 key you need for io?...
Ok the group has veng dh, sham healer, unholy dk, mage, who are they going to invite the fury war or the 12 demon hunters applied to the group.
coarse nest
They’ll invite whatever does the most dps
hazy rose
so what is your point exactly
dense elbow
The one with the better score and potential dps
coarse nest
Because they can’t use the utility they have properly so they hope more dps will carry the key
This isn’t some wild unknown knowledge
hazy rose
are u saying we should play something other than fury war
sullen tendon
The one with the better score and potential dps
Unfortunately for the group people who completed 20s are not apllying to 18s
coarse nest
This is literally how the pug scene is every single time
dense elbow
Nah, his point is to complain to complain
hazy rose
I see, that’s weird
dense elbow
I get him, i do the same about OF
sullen tendon
You guys love getting ass fucked by blizzard don’t you
Just lie down and let it happen
Oh yea you love it
dense elbow
Getting unhinged already?
coarse nest
Stop advocating for utility
dense elbow
That is early for you
coarse nest
Go play mage or something
We are the warrior spec we want massive damage to be our identity
sullen tendon
If you complain at all about a spec you love playing it’s invalidated by a hundred dumbasses who quote parsing and mdi instead of actually playing the game
Fury is not perfect
dense elbow
Cause it aint invalidated at all
hazy rose
man I just push buttons
coarse nest
Where’s the passive talent that reads
removes all utility abilities while increasing damage aura by 200%
dense elbow
I would take that deal, damn good deal
hazy rose
lol
coarse nest
Damn good deal
sullen tendon
Stop advocating for utility
You know what would get us invited to groups? Utility that helps the whole group instead of just a stun.
coarse nest
Fucking wizard players come in here asking for mass barrier and gateway and shit
Gtfo
Big damage only
dense elbow
If you dont think stuns help, get out, i beg
wicked scarab
Saw that coming
sullen tendon
Most specs in the game don’t do physical damage
Magic damage is inherently more valuable because of that
dense elbow
Shout isnt phy dam only tho, it is AP classes
summer quail
i would rather reroll than have skull banner back. hate using offensive cds for other peoples purpose. it's garbage
sullen tendon
Whatever
dense elbow
My brain
sullen tendon
With your technicalities
coarse nest
i would rather reroll than have skull banner back. hate using offensive cds for ...
Preach it
sullen tendon
You know what I mean
sullen tendon
Everything you say is just “um technically”
dense elbow
It is still annoying to listen to
coarse nest
Oh but that’s omega utility doubles invites likelihood
sullen tendon
Pushing your glasses up from your nose
hazy rose
“warrior has no utility” rogue:
coarse nest
Pushing your glasses up from your nose
🤓 don’t mind if I do
dense elbow
Warrior only buff phy classes:
DK, DH, Shaman
coarse nest
Can see the big damage numbers better
sullen tendon
Go back to simming for a 0.1% upgrade
dense elbow
Zzz
bitter palm
Ok the group has veng dh, sham healer, unholy dk, mage, who are they going to in...
ok the group has brew rdruid enha idk something physical
who are they gonna invite?
sullen tendon
ok the group has brew rdruid enha idk something physical
No they are going to invite the demon hunter
bitter palm
surely
dense elbow
The DH that does twice our dam
hazy rose
three prot warriors is the ideal 3v3 pvp team comp
coarse nest
True
bitter palm
yeah cause balance is broken
dense elbow
Not wrong
plush zephyr
Everything you say is just “um technically”
You’re the biggest ackually person to type here outside of transmog
dense elbow
yeah cause balance is broken
Dont try to use logic, Bobby is trolling for fun
hazy rose
Dont try to use logic, Bobby is trolling for fun
king shit
dense elbow
It aint worth yet time
sullen tendon
You’re the biggest *ackually* person to type here outside of transmog
Who are you
dense elbow
Just use No U
sullen tendon
Umm technically it is worth my time
sullen tendon
More worthless than yours
hazy rose
damn
sullen tendon
Technically I win actually
dense elbow
Surw
sullen tendon
Yup
dense elbow
If that makes your day better
sullen tendon
No I get the last word actually
dense elbow
I will give you the win
sullen tendon
Yup
hazy rose
show’s over, damn
coarse nest
This guy would probably equip daggers if it meant his attacks slowed
NeEd MuH uTiLiTy
dapper goblet
never forget the great bobby freakout of dragonflight fated when s2 won over s3
sudden tusk
Dragon flight blow up
bitter palm
never forget the great bobby freakout of dragonflight fated when s2 won over s3
deserved win
vague fern
ive been told warrios are not that hot atm.. which spec is better?
bitter palm
fury
warm crag
never forget the great bobby freakout of dragonflight fated when s2 won over s3
madox buys headshot booster on bebop
warm crag
ive been told warrios are not that hot atm.. which spec is better?
whatever you prefer, arms is shit but it'll all be randomly tuned
hazy rose
ive been told warrios are not that hot atm.. which spec is better?
wdym? like what war spec or what other class spec?
bitter palm
whatever you prefer, arms is shit but it'll all be randomly tuned
only real answer
hazy rose
yeah
spare steppe
ive been told warrios are not that hot atm.. which spec is better?
There’s only 1 dps spec and 1 tank spec for warriors
signal falcon
deserved win
Last time the spec was fun
spare steppe
If that helps
sullen dove
Skull banner gets us invited
lolw
sullen dove
Go back to simming for a 0.1% upgrade
Funky like the last person to type this to lol he on purpose played worse talent builds to use odyns in the past (now it’s good) and still did relatively high keys lol
bro is def chopped in more ways than one but uh
yeah damage > everything in every scenario
sullen dove
yea I mean think even before s3
sour frigate
Its odyns or 2 haste talent
sullen dove
idk if he’s ever not played it
sour frigate
I ran odyns too just for fancy opener
sudden tusk
madox buys headshot booster on bebop
Hell no my build order is pre determined
sour frigate
It does?
sudden tusk
I'm bad at the game why am I buying accuracy items
sullen dove
Hell no it don’t
sour frigate
Fuck it
sudden tusk
It does not, but it should
sour frigate
Kinda anyway
sullen dove
it’s ok ish on thane
sour frigate
U charge into clap
sullen dove
u want to hit clap
sour frigate
Balls
sullen dove
but odyns and ww within 2 globals of each other makes me want to die
dense elbow
just ignore WW, just bladestorm
dense elbow
so I am told
sour frigate
lean valley
When do we replace the reshi wraps?
still carbon
anyone else hit lvl 9 Amani tribe rep but no 246 neck?
sudden tusk
I did at like 10 ilvl up but hold em just in case
sullen dove
le funny moment did a heroic dimensius to get my friend aotc mount last minute and died immediately cuz didn’t have the cape on
had like a 230 one in its place but was def flabbergasted by “you need wraps”
so had to hearth and get outta bank lol
vague fern
wdym? like what war spec or what other class spec?
I meant warrior spec, but i see that slayer is better on wowhead by the looks of it
tight roost
anyone else hit lvl 9 Amani tribe rep but no 246 neck?
Afaik not all of the champ track rep gear is available yet
dense drum
Where do u get the delve quest? done 2 now without getting any hand in or pre quests to hand in for xp
queen tiger
is there a sheet somewhere with all spec tier set increases?
rustic mist
Good afternoon everyone, does anyone have the Warrior Fury talents in early access?
young swan
should be updated on wowhead.com
winged hill
Guys, don't you feel fury weak atm?
winter shoal
There's nothing difficult to do right now
Any spec is just fine for leveling and world quests
There will be tuning when heroic week starts, which is the first time class balance will be at all relevant
hot shell
Feels kind of weak once u hit 90 but thats cause u just take soo much damage
winter shoal
That's almost certainly a consequence of level scaling more than spec balance
Fury is one of the tankiest dps specs in the game
And is less cd-reliant than most specs as well
hot shell
Idk about that, a dk feels more tanky currently, but yes feeling weak is just a level scaling thing. Pretty normal for first seasons tho
But damn, being oneclapped by the super rares feels great 👀
lean valley
Is fury slayer or fury thane better for dungeon currently?
visual wing
Thane, I believe.
sick kelp
whats are trinket list from these heroics/m0s we got any specific things we need to be grabbing i can't find a list really other than wowhead
trail locust
E.g. In Recklessness at 130 do you spam Rampage for maximum stacks or do you rampage --> BB --> Rampage --> BB etc?
restive walrus
hows fury feeling at 90, thinking bout boosting a haranir one when they release
dense elbow
like eating noodles that has been overcooked to the point of being just mushy, still food, still functional. Just bland and in real need of some spice.
oblique thistle
hows fury feeling at 90, thinking bout boosting a haranir one when they release
If you liked fury before, you'll probably like it now
BT > RB
Execute prio
honest trail
Enjoy it a bit less but it's fine
Slayer could be great if they deal with the Rend problem
& RB being too weak
Like 10% dmg on RB, have something auto apply Rend or something as Slayer
& we fine
dense elbow
maybe a Bladestorm buff too, no?
oblique thistle
Rend can honestly just explode
Its passive damage on thane and annoying in slayer
Serves no function in our rotation
plush maple
Blizz uses metrics so would be interesting what they would think and do if no one used Rend even if talented
rich void
Should just make rend be applied via BT or execute tbh
I hate pointless maintenance buttons
plush maple
Now you're cooking
flat river
WW should apply rend
Same as thunderclap
Arms it can be cleave and WW
Since cleave replaces WW
Prot already uses thunderclap always
So passive bleed
Idk why they want us to press rend
tidal beacon
is rampaging ruin worth running if using a cancel macro for single target?
summer quail
is rampaging ruin worth running if using a cancel macro for single target?
technically yes. but most people cba
novel oasis
modest condor
also keep in mind that just aoe alone isnt enough to make RR worth it
it's specifically only on big uncapped pulls
i think the breakpoint is 8 targets
anything lower than that normal rampage is still better
not to mention you give up a ton of prio damage while aoeing
so tl;dr, no dont run ruin
echo rapids
Spend talent points to get ever so slightly good at something we are are bad at (huge target counts) to get worse at one of our strengths (moderate count pulls). Hard pass
haughty carbon
I’ve been testing Slayer and noticed that Bloodbath hits really hard during Recklessness.
In the opener, after Bladestorm, instead of going:
Bladestorm → Rampage → Bloodbath
would it be better to do:
Bladestorm → Bloodbath → Rampage
even if it means slightly overcapping rage for one GCD?
Since Bloodbath has a 3s cooldown, using it earlier inside Recklessness might let me fit more casts into the window.
Is it worth it, or is Rampage still the better priority?
I know it’s min-maxing, but I’ve been wondering about it
echo rapids
Could be, but casting as many rampages as you can is import for CDR, the stacking strength buff from apex etc
Not sure if the fine tuning from sims is done yet
young swan
I’ve been testing Slayer and noticed that Bloodbath hits really hard during Reck...
the only time this would be the case is if spending 1gcd on ramp makes you lose a cast of BB and even then its dubious cause rampage does so much shit
glad onyx
Hi guys, I'm seeing A LOT of arms warriors, is it better than fury?
eternal sundial
Hi guys, I'm seeing A LOT of arms warriors, is it better than fury?
Ye man it has done a lot better on raider.io and warcraftlogs for now
Arms holds records for the highest io and dps overall
|| both at 0 ||
verbal steppe
where can i get the mountain thaine talents?
winter shoal
where can i get the mountain thaine talents?
Wowhead
calm swallow
Which Darkmoon deck is good for us?
sour frigate
81 lvl arms myth gear ig?
summer quail
anyone using itrulia and has the "no leap" appear for a second when using charge? driving me crazy
sullen dove
Something very wrong has occurred with all of you in this group
smoky vale
why is your name spelled funkykittie
stoic kindle
anyone using itrulia and has the "no leap" appear for a second when using charge...
thats just because of gcd
dense elbow
Proof of Arms being opop, accept its truth
dense elbow
why is your name spelled funkykittie
cause blizz dont allow me to set my name to "WorstDPSEU"
winter shoal
You can still set nickname in details
summer quail
thats just because of gcd
yea i know i can't use leap when charging but i want the text to go away...
it appears everytime i charge unless leap is on cd
winter shoal
I will remain glizzy goblin on details until the die I day
lament lagoon
Hello friends , now that most are lvl 90. Are we still the most op class?
dense elbow
yap 
hybrid yew
how much better is Mountain thane over slayer for Dungeons? reap the storm seems to do a lot of AoE nowadays
mortal ivy
81 lvl arms myth gear ig?
unless its heroic or M0 the scaling is busted for all classes lol lower level BIS gear from last xpac goes crazy even tanks
spare flame
anyone else having performance issues on magister's terrace?
this dungeon shits on my fps lol
olive wraith
What’s considered top players rn
sullen dove
and what "top players" use isnt what 90% of the playerbase needs to use lol
those builds are almost never any significant amount different than the wowhead builds especially concerning damage, just sometimes they pick some differing utility in diff dungeons when its needed
sullen dove
i mean right now it almost certainly is
honest trail
Anyway
sullen dove
wtf could it possibly have to go off of
im sure its "useable" in a normal season
but it doesnt do anything any better than like the more normal sites
undone vault
olive wraith
But seriously. What’s considered “top players” rn
sour cloak
raider io?
sullen dove
for all the m+ being run right now?
olive wraith
Do we get Rio for normals
warm crag
But seriously. What’s considered “top players” rn
Me
olive wraith
There you go. Copy spongie
warm crag
I am level 80 and just bought my first plot of land
the last enemy i was in combat with was Dimensius
olive wraith
He a chad. Go run around with no apex at 90
uneven parcel
Do the fury a-pex talents work properly? It doesnt reduce the cost of rampage
mortal ivy
Do the fury a-pex talents work properly? It doesnt reduce the cost of rampage
its 15 rage reduced for 2nd point and 30 rage reduced for third point they work but its only during Reck not all the time
uneven parcel
Ah I see. Thank you
heady wedge
is fury squishier now?
restive walrus
What professions you zug zuggers rocking in midnight?
indigo totem
Alchemy Blacksmithing 🙂
mortal ivy
is fury squishier now?
both fury and arms armor is the same, they both have 30% IV heal every 25s the difference comes from warpaint if you run that you will take 10% reduced damage while enraged( not while not enraged) you also have more health since you have more base health so your healthier than arms since you have two 2 handed weapons. you also heal 3%+ of your health every time you press Bloodthirst. And enraged Regeneration poped before a blade storm can heal you from 10% life to full life. Arms only heals from fueled by Violence. 85% of bleed damage from deep wounds and Rend heal.
heady wedge
both fury and arms armor is the same, they both have 30% IV heal every 25s the d...
thanks for the info ❤️
earnest canyon
for all the m+ being run right now?
Can you queue for TWW m+ at 90?
olive wraith
No
mortal ivy
Can you queue for TWW m+ at 90?
didnt know you could ever que for mythic +
earnest canyon
didnt know you could ever que for mythic +
I meant sign up
You know, just do them like before, but you are level 90 now
swift galleon
How is AP Calculated right now ?
brittle crow
Do the fury a-pex talents work properly? It doesnt reduce the cost of rampage
a-pex
sorry that was funny
olive wraith
What error does it give if you queue up at level 90?
No clue. But m+ isn’t available rn
olive wraith
How is AP Calculated right now ?
Idk but I’m curious why you’d like to know
dense elbow
Fury buffs when?
earnest canyon
No clue. But m+ isn’t available rn
I see people queuing keys all the time
I mean the OLD mythic plus
Cant you just blitz them at level 90? push 30 keys?
swift galleon
Idk but I’m curious why you’d like to know
because New Whetstone gives 3Attack power....
olive wraith
Cant you just blitz them at level 90? push 30 keys?
Pretty sure you can’t
olive wraith
because New Whetstone gives 3Attack power....
So you wanna know what’s the best wep consumable?
swift galleon
So you wanna know what’s the best wep consumable?
yes but i want to know why, just not what is the best
olive wraith
The why is typically cause one sims better
swift galleon
well happened often that simulations where wrong 😉
echo rapids
Cant you just blitz them at level 90? push 30 keys?
I don’t think so, I tried dragon flight keys when they made it legacy and couldn’t either
sullen dove
Cant you just blitz them at level 90? push 30 keys?
Even if you can for what reason lol
echo garnet
What's the best darkmoon deck for a fresh 90?
olive wraith
well happened often that simulations where wrong 😉
When are they wrong?
young swan
well happened often that simulations where wrong 😉
if sims are "wrong" its usually user error
sims are what you make of them'
swift galleon
well it all starts at the apl
young swan
there are very few cases where things are legitimately "wrong"
sullen dove
ya which is right like all the time unless you’re a hunter and azor sandbags your shit with wrong talents
young swan
yeah I mean even know the APL is extremely polished
earnest canyon
Even if you can for what reason lol
Fun? Seeing how high you can go
earnest canyon
I don’t think so, I tried dragon flight keys when they made it legacy and couldn...
Ah ok, thanks
sullen dove
but even still comparing stat values to stat values is like mostly unrelated to apl anyway
swift galleon
ok but can someone please explain me how Attackpower is Calculated? or what addon i need ot see my attack power
olive wraith
I mean sure the apl could be wrong. But how would you suggest finding the best consumable otherwise
Isn’t attack power on your character sheet
sullen dove
I’m sure there’s some explanation on wowhead or something of what AP is but idk how it translates now with all the insane stat squishes
if formula has changed since before or not
regardless I think it can sort of be thought of as like 1-2 strength maybe
Even if number not accurate idk similar enough idea just makes damage bigger
What are other weapon consumes this time anyway
olive wraith
I just don’t see how knowing the formula helps
sullen dove
Are there some kinda oils
young swan
general rule of thumb is that strength (and thereby AP) is better with less stat inflation
but if the sim says "yeah crit/haste weapon consume better" theres no reason not to trust that
idk what the actual stats are on new weapon consumes but the sentiment is the same
olive wraith
Archi and the other apl dudes are much smarter than me. I’ll trust them
modest condor
attack power is just 1 strength = 1 attack power
young swan
attack power is just 1 strength = 1 attack power
doesnt AP also consider weapon damage or some shit
modest condor
no
young swan
idk i dont look at that nonsense
swift galleon
okok but why is there an consumable that gives us THREE attack power and is NOT cheap
swift galleon
u still get to like 2k-3k strength thats like 1/1000
toxic jewel
OF giving cleave stacks when?
modest condor
¯_(ツ)_/¯
if it's that expensive just dont buy it
what do you need a consumable for in leveling content anyway
olive wraith
u still get to like 2k-3k strength thats like 1/1000
I think tww was like this as well tbf
The whetstones gave like 300 ish or something
olive wraith
Sounds about right
young swan
about the same tbh
analog plinth
any idea where u do the protocols tho
The Voidstorm zone has a talent tree beside the quartermaster you got that from
frozen field
for mountain thane is worrying about RB stacks low priority?
olive wraith
Like charges?
frozen field
Yeah, sorry
olive wraith
Pretty much
frozen field
Thanks
sullen dove
we have more than a few but probably somethin like massacre/meatcleaver
olive wraith
Someone mentioned 1 cruelty
sullen dove
or well im thane with mc was about to say surely u dont take that as slayer
olive wraith
It’s gonna be a sim questions either way
sullen dove
@sudden tusk need a world quest trinket tier list pls
so i know what my 2nd trinket is
have a drum have a scroll can maybe get the loa hashey sigil thing
have thorn but that seems stupid
sudden tusk
i equip highest Ilvl and log out
leveling an alt is so slow man
i dont think i wana level another alt again
drowsy heron
that bad?
cobalt kernel
its pretty shit
brittle crow
i dont think i wana level another alt again
u make progress towards the meta achievement!
by doing all ur loremasters
sudden tusk
already did them all on one guy while leveling
drowsy heron
does slayer feel a little burstier to anyone else?
rich void
Peeps saying thane is more cozy idk I haven’t leveled my warrior yet. Got the DH to 90
sullen dove
yea i mean with odyns/bs/RA bb but more revolving around cds now
and apex also lends more to bursting
mortal ivy
im level 82 bro yall are too fast
im 90 on main gear and crest capped alt is 85 🙁 lol
brittle crow
buh
not me out here reading quest text and doing schoolwork instead of grinding
😭
stable jetty
ain't no way I'm readin dat shiz
mortal ivy
I did all the reading in beta
stable jetty
auto accept every quest, skip every cutscene
mortal ivy
ngl i only watch cut scenes lol