fury

[spare steppe]

It doesn’t really seem to be the case

[inland flame]

Yeah both hero trees prefer BT over RB rn I think so basically same builds

[spare steppe]

So it’s basically the same except with rend for slayer

Meh

[dense elbow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sky-art-cat-xfleD6ByCmgta

same

[woven atlas]

Slayer ST and MT for AoE i assume?

[young swan]

im honestly not even sure it matters

u got like

4-5days until early acces

[woven atlas]

Do you think it will change once The addon launches?

[wild mural]

i might just play arms until it's literally an issue cause it doesnt do enough dps

my guild wants to get CE but we're more interested about having fun so

[olive wraith]

Godspeed friend

[wild mural]

i think im gonna have fun having a chill season

[spare steppe]

We’ve accepted the “we do mythic until penultimate but we ain’t ever getting CE” status 🙁

[wild mural]

just enjoying raiding rather than having to optimise every microsecond of my time to get wr 1600 or something

idk Im done with

that sorta raiding

i get CE or I don't

[open sage]

wait Thats how i gotta play to get wr 1600??????

[wild mural]

just wanna enjoy the game

[wild mural]

according to my ex raid leader LMAO

[open sage]

kek i had some skitso raid leader 1 being a clicker hunter kekw

[wild mural]

Hmmm maybe i'll gear my mage aswell

cause frost is insanely fun atm

and if arms is really that dogshit

my raid leader gets it

[olive wraith]

You have zach4206967?

[wild mural]

I am zach4206967

[dusky moon]

I have @forest swallow and @coarse nest

So that's how I feel

[wild mural]

every warrior player is the greatest warrior player

we're a brotherhood

[drowsy heron]

nice

[wild mural]

brothers in arms

[covert coyote]

the band of brorriors

[sudden tusk]

[coarse nest]

Bros got me

Pancakes has “work”

Miss my warrior bro

[coarse nest]

💯

[dusky moon]

He joined last night

He's back

[coarse nest]

[left perch]

Ok so no not really

[plush maple]

Brothers in Fury

[earnest canyon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/calvinbanks-ashtonsummers

[left perch]

Brothers in (can’t type it)

[mossy lichen]

Hello guys! Simple question: do you ever use Whirlwind as Mountain Thane? Or should I just forget about it and just Thunder Clap?

[sullen dove]

only tc

[slim coral]

Whirlwind is thunder clap in terms of they do the same thing which is cleave

But thunderclap replaces WW as thane

[mossy lichen]

Yeah that's what it seemed like, tysm!

[mossy lichen]

although sometimes during BL I find myself wasting a GCD... Would Whirlwind be the thing to press there?

[autumn pumice]

another addon my warrior is joke for dk gigachad

https://tenor.com/view/crab-rave-mmd-v-tuber-alymew-alymew-dance-gif-22688312

[lost thorn]

yeah we doomed

not allowed to be good

[slim coral]

you can't whirldwind as thane

just so its easier for you to understand thunder clap effectively replaces ww

[mossy lichen]

Ty!

Also, sorry for the newb questions, where can I find a reliable source for spell priority / rotation guides? Every site (Method, Icy Veins, WoWHead, YT videos...) says different things, and I've got a lot of conflicting information

[sullen dove]

yt vids especially lot more likely chance of being outdated since things can change so much

[slim coral]

wowhead is going to be the most reliable

[sullen dove]

wowhead/icyveins basically always most up to date

so whichever u prefer between those

[slim coral]

[sullen dove]

fury did have some significant ish tuning changes within the last week and a half so any vid from before then is outdated

[slim coral]

W april 21st

Cannot wait to get spoonfed

[sullen dove]

you will be spoonfed mud

[dusky moon]

almost done

have to clean up some stuff

[tawdry sage]

Is fury capable of title or is it another hunter season? Just came back today

[sullen dove]

uhh i mean... not sure anyone really knows fully what next season gonna be like in bis gear

im sure its "capable" believe critcake and maybe few other warr players have gotten title literally every season since title's inception

but not impossible it'll be a lot easier with a hunter for example

but dont think rly worth thinking about m+ meta in a season thats not gonna start until like 1.5month from now

and even then prolly another month or two more of tuning during the start of raid season before its like omega solidified in m+

[tawdry sage]

I should have asked if its humanly possible since critcake, bizentein, novix arent human 👀

Oooh i thought it started like tomorrow wtf

[sullen dove]

o apparently early access is feb 26 which is cool

[slim coral]

Fury can get title yes

[sullen dove]

but yea expansion launch in 6~10 days

like 3 more weeks until raid/m+ season starts i think

[slim coral]

I pug my title every tier if I choose to go for it

[sullen dove]

cluegi

but yea regardless i mean u can maybe check some m+ streamers vids if they have any about prospective m+ classes

but things can still change a lot in the next month or two of tuning

[tawdry sage]

3 weeks of fellowship then. Idk what it is but fellowship doesnt satisfy my degenerate warrior addiction brain

[sullen dove]

fury think looks decently mid of pack and is most of the time situated there anyway

rarely ever like the "top meta" pick

[mossy lichen]

wowhead it is! ty friends

[dapper goblet]

still waiting for baze yt vids

[tawdry sage]

Still waiting for new quazzi drop 😭

[sullen dove]

quazi aware

[sullen dove]

fr

bro got 1 banger and been afk since

[slim coral]

They're already up bozo

I have 7 more videos' to finish

[tardy matrix]

I think it's funny how they just said yeah fuck arms you guys are on a tier by yourself

[slim coral]

my recent one I did last week got 8k

[sullen dove]

yea it is down tremendous

[slim coral]

I don't really wanna put out low effort videos during the end of tier and prepatch ngl

[sullen dove]

actual hatecrimes done to that spec

most dogshit spec in the game for the last year

nerfs it again

doesnt elaborate

[slim coral]

3 years if you count actual meta

[sullen dove]

blizzard really hitting zingers

meta is for literal chuds

arms was at least playable in s2

and p good on mugzee

[tardy matrix]

Meanwhile arcane and demo are allowed to be literal terrorists and not get slapped

[slim coral]

yeah it was playable but not nearly that good

[tardy matrix]

Sadge

[sudden tusk]

main issue is blizzard can strait up change everything about how the spec should prio within the next 2 weeks

actual crystal ball

[tardy matrix]

Surely they don't nerf fury after they violated arms right

SURELY

[sudden tusk]

they could legit slingshot arms with its awful gameplay to top dps

and we'd all be forced to play it

[mossy lichen]

Ew...

[tardy matrix]

Eh I'm fine with that idrc if it's arms or fury

I just want to ungabunga

Granted fury is better because 2 big swords > 1 big sword

[dapper goblet]

bean sayin the arms dev is a goober since bfa

back when you were still in middle school

[sullen dove]

yea

they did something right with condemn arms

thats bout it

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/you-sure-about-that-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-are-you-absolutely-certain-are-you-positive-can-you-verify-that-gif-10549268703103241949

[sullen dove]

this guy always looks like hes on the verge of crying

[sudden tusk]

its like christmas mornin

[dapper goblet]

yeah but how many bomb stacks

[sudden tusk]

i dont even play bomb anymore

its all gun

bomb sucks

[dapper goblet]

he do got some crazy gun uppies from levels

[sudden tusk]

main issue is if you go full bomb enemy buy 3200 item full counter

so you just play gun and your kit actually like super amps gun

[smoky vale]

xeos "fanboy" wonka

[dusky moon]

Guide updated!

TLDR changes are good:

1. Weapons from raid and vault are competitive again.
2. Crafting is once again only good for your first two items if you are a raider. Do not craft beyond this!
3. You now only hold Crests for 1 week, using them before stepping into Mythic.
4. Your item level per week is much higher than it would've been in the previously planned system. For example, by the third week of mythic you should be 2.67 average ilvls higher than you would’ve been under the previous system.
5. You will be able to convert Hero crests to Myth crests through some interesting shenanigans.
6. You finish with Heroic crests much earlier than you would have with the previous system, but later than we do in TWW currently.

[sudden tusk]

woo

[frank dawn]

what a legend

[heavy dock]

Do we use any sigil on weapon craft?

[fading sky]

Facts made arms good with hero on pull and hero on execute

[bitter palm]

nah this is ragebait

how is condemn arms better than sod

sod arms was the best iteration of arms after legion

nvm i cant read

[river bay]

is fury looking better than arms for m+?

[vernal jungle]

like there's a spec, arms and fury are just play whatever is best, it's still obnoxious to putt Av/BS on same slot, that was the point

[eternal sundial]

Waiter waiter please

One more dps cooldown that does nothing

[undone flower]

Best I can do is a third cd aligned with avatar and reck, which increase mastery by 20% for 15 sec, off gcd

[dense elbow]

Lets throw in a 10% "bloodthirsty berserker" haste buff as well, a 5th off gcd cd aligned ability

[vernal jungle]

and then delete all of those cooldowns to choose bladestorm?

[dense elbow]

Well, all of them got to be on the choice node of BS.

Ofc

[vernal jungle]

good, I'd have it no other way

[brittle crow]

why craft only for first 2?

and does that mean main hand and bracers again

[kind python]

If I cleave a vicious contempt bloodthirst will the cleaved bloodthirsts do more damage?

[wild mural]

its 65% of the original abilities damage based on this wording right so should do

[fading sky]

Arms is dead

[dense elbow]

Pretty sure VC is treated like a target debuff, not a buff modifier. So the logical thing would be that all targets in VC range takes the extra damage, even if the main target isnt.

While avatar buffs you, thus all of your cleaved dam. VC is an on target modifier, so only the target individually decides the result

Now i am curious tho, as I never actually tested it with my own eyes anyone not at work and bored?

[wild mural]

Im not at work, im also bored, but Im also stupid

[olive jetty]

Wednesday is the day where melees get saved

[sand thistle]

Guys looking at raidbots on 5 targerts in the opener it casts Rampage 13 seconds in??? basically sitting at full rage, is it a bug or what?

this is prepatch

it seems that during the whole reck duration it did not cast rampage

[radiant plank]

see how it doesnt drop enrage

[sand thistle]

so as long as you're enraged it skips rampage in the opener, this is strange

[dusky moon]

Upgrading a 2/6 costs 60 crests to 5/6, crafting costs 80

[brittle crow]

shouldn't u just hold all crests then

for upgrading

[dusky moon]

No You want two embellishments And you probably want to craft a weapon

[coarse nest]

Will likely be the same as TWW craft off hand embellish + craft wrist embellish

[sly pasture]

The only good thing we can say about Fury right now is at least it’s not Arms

[hollow leaf]

other buttons are better 🤷‍♂️

[marble pilot]

Fury is basically the exact same as it was in TWW. You wont be top dps in big aoe pulls. Your ST is good. And Fury is fun. No reason to doom

[haughty carbon]

he's drunk, you waste to much rage in 13secs if u dont spend them, so you waste dps

[sullen dove]

Uh… not if rampage does less damage than the other abilities it’s pressing instead… which it does…

[gleaming siren]

Soredish stop drinking

[sullen dove]

think the only weird thing is less cdr on reck or something but maybe that matters less on aoe

my fault

[gleaming siren]

You're forgiven

[olive wraith]

That changes in a few weeks anyways

[brittle crow]

u do it on st too

woman shrugging emoji

[haughty carbon]

The Raidbots website says it itself, it’s not meant to be used to understand a rotation
As Fury, your goal is to overcap Rage as little as possible, in that Raidbots example, the sim is already overcapping Rage starting from Bladestorm

[brittle crow]

but it is used to inform the rotation

and the correct thing to do in ur opener is not press rampage

because rampage does negative damage compared to bloodbath, execute, and crushing blow

[brittle crow]

how do u think the guide writers write the priority lists on wowhead?

they look at what raidbots does and puts it in a comprehendible form

[haughty carbon]

Rampage is a spender, and it will be your number one damage source thanks to Apex in Midnight, following Raidbots’ logic is a good way to develop bad habits

[brittle crow]

this ain't midnight and this game is too easy to develop bad habits

don't press rampage now, press it in midnight

it's that simple

[olive wraith]

Raidbots will be updated in midnight no worries

[haughty carbon]

You need to press Rampage at around 115 Rage, otherwise you overcap and lose DPS. It’s that simple. You don’t press it because it hits hard, you press it because it spends Rage

[brittle crow]

incorrect

[haughty carbon]

???????????

[olive wraith]

It’s not a dps loss in this case

[brittle crow]

the hypothetical dps gained by spending rage is outweighed by the raw damage bloodbath crushing blow and execute do

so, you press them instead

[olive wraith]

But really don’t even think too much about it. APL changes in a few weeks

[brittle crow]

it's good to understand why you're pressing your buttons at any given time

keeps you adaptable

[olive wraith]

That’s fair

[brittle crow]

there have been many many cases where overcapping rage is optimal

hell, most of season 3

[haughty carbon]

It goes against Fury Warrior’s design to not spend your Rage and just press every possible builder, but if you insist on this kind of debate, then you’re probably right

[brittle crow]

not every possible builder

bloodbath, crushing blow, and execute

im saying them by name for a reason

because that's the prio

[olive wraith]

Every so often we overcap rage

[brittle crow]

odyns too while we're being semantic

[olive wraith]

All of tww we did the brutal finish optimization

Which generally over capped

Plus s3 as mentioned above

And then also Df s1 we did for a bit

[flat river]

I'm pretty sure next xpac we will press rampage when we have it since it ties to our apex

[brittle crow]

yea probably

[coarse nest]

The robot takes all conditions into account when it executes an ability
So in the case above the robot decided it was more value to press abilities that do not spend rage while also considering the loss on the rage being wasted that it generated

[olive wraith]

Ye pretty sure apex makes it so over cap is ultra bad

[flat river]

I say next expansion i mean in 1 week for rich people

[coarse nest]

No reason to over think this stuff that’s what the robot is for

[haughty carbon]

Okay i understand now

[sand thistle]

but thena gain the robot presses RB instead of WW on 5 targets

soo 🤷‍♂️

[haughty carbon]

During reck u need to press ur buffed RB and BT for gaining dps

[olive wraith]

Where?

[sand thistle]

no no, outside of reck

[coarse nest]

Correct according to the robot

[sand thistle]

here's the sim https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/s7BQFBNNHjLEFRVJXtZGrJ

[coarse nest]

Maintain enrage > meatcleaver > bb > cb

Is what that’s showing *in regards to the screenshot up a few messages

[olive wraith]

Am I missing something? It looks like it’s refreshing cleave every 5th global

[sand thistle]

i meant that usually you should replace WW with RB on 5+ targets right?

since WW will do more dmg

[haughty carbon]

Y, he refresh cleave every 5th hit

[brittle crow]

hell non

[olive wraith]

I don’t think so

[brittle crow]

ww does negative damage

it's used exclusively as last ditch filler and for meat cleaver

[olive wraith]

Ww is okay dmg. But you never prio it above your st spells

[brittle crow]

at lvl 24 maybe

[olive wraith]

I mean it’s like 5% dmg isn’t it

That’s not awful

[sand thistle]

in 5+ targets WW should ourdps RB

[brittle crow]

where are u getting that idea

[sand thistle]

cause meat cleaver hits 4 targets

[brittle crow]

ww does ludicrously reduced damage beyond 5 targets

[sand thistle]

and ww hits everything reducing after 5

[brittle crow]

yes, u don't care about that

[olive wraith]

You hit 5 targets. Prio +4

[coarse nest]

Whirlwind is exclusively used to refresh meatcleaver stacks or otherwise as the last ST option when nothing else is available

[olive wraith]

Also don’t forget that rb also does other things depending on talents

[brittle crow]

fury is simply a 5 target aoe class

[olive wraith]

Aka bloodcraze

[brittle crow]

this is ur life

[sand thistle]

I saw Noxiv also not touching RB on large AOE

replaces it with WW

[lost thorn]

but do we have to accept that life when we are not even the best at it

[brittle crow]

we're warriors blizz hates us

it's what it's

[coarse nest]

That I believe right now because without all the supporting RB talents it does fuk all damage

[olive wraith]

Got the clip?

[sand thistle]

yea im talking right now, im not in the beta channel right?

in prepatch

[lost thorn]

Blizzard does hate us because we are beautiful

[olive wraith]

There might be a target threshold noxiv determined

[brittle crow]

are u sure he wasn't playing thane xd

[olive wraith]

Also plausible lol

[sand thistle]

oh I can differentiate thane from slayer

[brittle crow]

would have to see a clip then

[coarse nest]

I could see a world where you would WW > RB in large enough aoe but you would still BT on cd

Also feelycraft

[brittle crow]

yea he could just be wrong that's something worth considering

nobody really cares in prepatch

[sand thistle]

basically almost for the whole Flood in this vid he's not touching RB on AOE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4_THzreveY

[sullen dove]

Well they also kinda write it into raidbots too

but yea both pmuch coming from the same sources

[sand thistle]

he's not even pressing CB

[brittle crow]

yea tru tru

that's tru

yea that's tru

[sullen dove]

[olive wraith]

Hey chat is that true?

[radiant plank]

Dont trust the robot

archi makes it sandbag so he can farm r1's

[brittle crow]

that's also tru

[olive wraith]

Does rend have lower base damage than ww

[haughty carbon]

that what i mean when i said raidbot is maybe not a good way to learn or understand a rotation

[brittle crow]

doesn't rend have no base dmg anymore

it's just the bleed

or am i delulu

[sand thistle]

it does hit

[olive wraith]

Oh I swear there was initial dmg

[sand thistle]

baseline

for ~3k

so more than baseline ww

[olive wraith]

What’s ww at

[brittle crow]

well nobody is saying it is

if u wanna understand the rotation you look at wowhead

[sand thistle]

2.7k is ww

[coarse nest]

Right so if rend/ww can hit as many targets as their are in a pull and a cleaved rb can only hit 5 that’s where the decision was made

[sand thistle]

but when it hits 3+ its +50%

[olive wraith]

And generates rage

Rip rend spam

[brittle crow]

rend on a cd

goober

[sand thistle]

rend has 6s CD

[sullen dove]

theres also a non zero chance they didnt put as much effort into the mickey mouse 2nd prepatch raidbots apl

[sand thistle]

I also had that logic and it makes sense tho

[sullen dove]

its prolly like 90-95% good nuff but yea dont imagine tried to omega optimize every single bit

[radiant plank]

Theres is a 100% chance the mickey mouse prepatch raidbots apl doesnt even exist

[coarse nest]

Agree lmao

[sullen dove]

ballshe

[coarse nest]

Walhe to busy farming raidbots rank 1s for mid n ight

Or arms cooking surely

[sullen dove]

i mean somethin gotta exist or else it would just be showing nothing no

[sand thistle]

at the end of the video his WW did the same damage as rampage 😄

[olive wraith]

Listen. He might be doing more damage. But I sure as hell can’t copy that god

So I’ll stick to the apl

[coarse nest]

Seems like he plays
Enrage > BB/bt > rend > WW

[olive wraith]

I didn’t watch the whole thing but I’m sure pull sizes and stuff influence

[coarse nest]

Pretty chill and looks like it cranks

[radiant plank]

Actually im farming the prepatch event to collect transmogs

[coarse nest]

Putting in work Hollyy

[radiant plank]

also bought a bunch of mounts and got the 300 mounts achi

[coarse nest]

Idek what the pre patch event is haha

Pog on mounts Gz!

[sand thistle]

it just hit me, cause on big pulls Rend isn't reduced it does the full 3k damage. where as WW is reduced after 5

[coarse nest]

Whatever does the most damage any given global is the whole idea

Poor odyns

[sullen dove]

o yea how many mounts come outta that...

will need to do it if it goes away soon...

[coarse nest]

Wait there’s no shot WW does more than crushing blow on 5 targets

[sullen dove]

but playing wow content cluegi..

[radiant plank]

1

[sullen dove]

odyns is like one of the highest dmging globals no

[radiant plank]

this one

[sullen dove]

like 5% overall for 1 cast every 45 sec

[coarse nest]

AoE surely

[sullen dove]

might be more aoe idk

its still like almost top prio in st no

[olive wraith]

I swear rend is softcapped

[coarse nest]

On cd press yeah

[sullen dove]

if it doesnt have the funny reduced after 8 targets text it better not be

[sand thistle]

maybe then it's not written in the tooltip

[radiant plank]

yeah

[sullen dove]

stealth softcapped fucks

[radiant plank]

aslong as u are in reck

[sullen dove]

roar and of i think had shit like that explicitly written

[olive wraith]

I wanna say there was a blue note saying it was capped

But clearly it’s not in tooltips so idk

[sullen dove]

ragey

[modest condor]

Saw some discussion about rb vs ww on aoe, the answer is just that the apl was written before the 20% RB nerf and that change only happened because of that nerf, which was a couple of weeks later. Since it's prepatch we don't care enough to re-optimize the apl for 2 weeks of content and instead are just focusing on making sure the apl for next expansion is correct.

[olive wraith]

Can you confirm if rend has a cap silm

[modest condor]

afaik it doesnt

[olive wraith]

Rend on cd gaming

[modest condor]

in really doubt it does enough damage for that to be worth it

[olive wraith]

That would be really funny

[modest condor]

it would be

[olive wraith]

Quick someone go do a massive pad pull

[wary sky]

I know its not meta but is there any information on Durable Information Securing Container and which affect to select?

[olive wraith]

The s2 belt?

My guess is just feelycraft mast

Unless scaling did something weird to the dmg procs

[sand thistle]

gotta say that ignoring RB on 4+ targets feels much better also Rend on CD on large packs

pumps

and one could argue that even on 3+ targets WW might do more dmg than RB (prepatch)

for me WW does 2792 dmg and RB 3,3k. 3+ targets buffs ww +50% which is 4.2k so even with the 10% enraged buff to RB WW will still do more dmg

there goes the mystery why Noxiv pumps 😄 spam ww and rend

[warm crag]

the 2 billion target pull in question:

[modest condor]

initial damage is probably hard capped to 20 like almost every other ability

[sullen dove]

the more than 20 mobs in a single pull gambit

my favorite

coincidentally only happens also in gambit

or algethar I guess too coming up

[modest condor]

algethar has like 27 mobs

[sudden tusk]

Da flowers

[flat river]

High-key excited about AA

[full rivet]

Question for you guys,

I'm running into this weird animation lock during my rotation. My arms/weapons will be held in a static spot and my character will be rigid, but will still somewhat go through the animations in a really jank fashion. I'm not sure how to recreate it, but it happens pretty frequently. Is this a Worgen issue, or are all Fury warriors running into this??

[modest condor]

are you using some kind of toy or consumable that changes your character's appearance? some models dont have combat animations

[full rivet]

Nope! Plain ol' worgen

[modest condor]

then idk

[full rivet]

If a regular Fury Warrior isn't running into this, then I guess it's safe to assume that it's an interaction with the Worgen skeleton. Disappointing. Can anyone else confirm??

[sweet palm]

Im worgen and yes i have the same problem

sometimes we just got animation locked

[sour wing]

dracthyr do it as well in visage form

[orchid oyster]

Having an animation lock issue randomly with Tauren as well. Haven't tested it much but noticed it a couple times

[junior oyster]

My tauren warrior is running into this frequently, usually after rampages

had it on a couple races actually, its just the tauren i play most

[full rivet]

Is this a new issue with the patch? I swapped to Worgen with the patch release and this is the first time I've seen it

[junior oyster]

I've heard someone mention it could be happening at high haste levels where animations are running into each other

If thaaat's the case, it'll iron out for the start of Midnight when we get slow again maybe? lol

[last sparrow]

think someone said it was to do with crushing blow

but i might be tripping

[indigo arch]

I've seen it with draenei

[novel oasis]

Happens on my human war

[full rivet]

Damn, I was just about to racechange draenei to get away from it lol.

Seems like it's a pretty universal issue then. Saves me money, but boy I hope it gets fixed soon. I'll submit a bug report next time I'm on the computer

[somber eagle]

I have it on my nelf as well, and it was since tww but it was more rare than it is now

[novel oasis]

Happens ll the time with me I just listen to the attack sounds

[brittle crow]

hasnt been a problem in the past

before shadowlands, rampage's animation wasnt hasted and its like a 2 sec long animation

it just gets clipped, no bugs happen

its def a model problem

or they somehow introduced animation clipping issues as a bug but i dont notice it on orc so

[stoic kindle]

yeah its just crushing blow

[junior oyster]

for me it's rampage into execute. He'll be stuck in the last downward swing of rampage then just his legs will do the execute animation then im stuck in that downward swing for like 3-5 seconds

[willow cradle]

Zandalari as well.

[full rivet]

Been knocking out some M+ to push trading post and, yeah. This seems to be exactly what triggers it for me too

[junior oyster]

It's not world-ending but man it does kill your buzz to look so goofy so often lol

[full rivet]

Yeah if it continues for very long into Midnight, I don't think I can play Fury lol it looks so dumb

[jovial summit]

anyone know what addon and name of the bar for theses two

[earnest coral]

Critical Thinking - the 10% crit damage is ONLY to Raging Blow or it's for all abilities?

[young swan]

only rb

[oblique sand]

does fury have a high skill ceiling? Someone told me its very competitive to get good fury parses

[undone flower]

Idk I guess like any classes

Depends on what you think of good parses

And, on easy classes it is very competitive to get good parses too, since it is easy

[frank dawn]

Yeah I don’t think I would say fury is significantly different from any other class when it comes to parsing

[pulsar prawn]

hmm wondering at the old filler macro, slam is completly removed for fury or ?

[stoic kindle]

no, you just never use it since whirlwind does more damage

[frank dawn]

But Slam is also removed from fury now. Rampage replaces it

[pulsar prawn]

its not even in the spellbook .. at only for arms

[undone flower]

Yes they buffed whirlwind in the middle of undermine, slam is not used since

[stoic kindle]

ah then it is, havent used it since season 2

[pulsar prawn]

aaaah yeah thats true. talent tree says it

[frank dawn]

Rampage replaces Slam when you learn it with the Midnight changes. Yeh

[brittle crow]

we've strayed so far from the light of dragonflight s2

[pulsar prawn]

hmm seems like they removed it also for prot now from the spellbook xD
edit: revenge replaces it, but stil has WW in the book ^^

[cyan vine]

I played this build all day, it was super fun

[sullen dove]

https://www.twitch.tv/swordish__/clip/ArtisticSwissBillPeteZarollTie-iCLR3OPd3UFIp5T3

goat

gio moment

[strange abyss]

I don't really even remember the last time I used slam 🤔

[analog magnet]

does fury loot spec still have a chance to give you 1hs

[compact knot]

yes

if you are a dps warrior only you should ALWAYS be arms loot spec

the only time you arent arms loot spec is if you want 1 handers for prot

[analog magnet]

i was wondering since with the advent of 1h transmog and smf being excised at long last they mightve just made it 2h only

[compact knot]

you would think

[olive wraith]

I thought fury can’t loot 1h anymore

[sullen dove]

is this real news

only been hearin ppl say no anymore

[novel oasis]

They removed the talent

But who knows

[undone flower]

open your vault as fury this week, you might get surprised

[sullen dove]

i shall

[stark kayak]

hey friends, what should be normal dps for fury aoe and st? kinda weird with the number crunch lol

[novel oasis]

Big warriors are pulling 90k in flood

I pull 55 🥹

Single target probably 30k plus

[drowsy heron]

wait, RB was nerfed so hard TC is higher prio?!?!?!

[summer quail]

you think that's bad wait til you hear rend is higher prio

for slayer ofc

[sudden tusk]

raging blmao

[summer quail]

i don't mind bt being prio but holy moly rend over rb?? bruv it's cooked. how much would rb need to get buffed for bt>rb>rend prio? 10%?

[olive wraith]

It was their big brain move to make slayer press rend

Also isn’t rb>clap in st (if no avatar)

[drowsy heron]

is it if there is no avatar, they are close in damage

[olive wraith]

I think that’s the case.

Either way I think they overdid it a bit

[fallow otter]

Looking for sound alert for Sudden Death (2 stacks). Does anyone have a link? I'm also curious if these types of combat alerts will be restricted under the new Midnight addon policies.

[smoky vale]

i think its restricted

[honest trail]

There's sound alerts in the cdm

[steady sierra]

You can do that in Blizz original CDM. I have it set up now and it works.

[hallow shore]

is warrior going out like this? guild is considering getting buff on tank 😂

[compact knot]

id wait a bit

last heroic week shifted the meta quite a bit

expect the same

[wild mural]

fury feels so fucking cooked

just tried a key on it and

i hate it

[delicate rock]

@wild mural why? Isnt it 90% the same as tww

[fading sky]

Fury feels great? Slayer and thane

[wild mural]

I dont like iot

its just feels cooked idk what to say

on beta

[fading sky]

I mean the lag makes fury feel worse

But apart from that, slayer has reap on bt and sd feels great

Thane has big claps feels great

[wild mural]

im hoping it'll feel better on live

but it feels really cooked to me

arms was fun

very fun

[fading sky]

But which part?

Do u miss spammin rb?

[wild mural]

I hate spamming rb

[fading sky]

We dont?

So what do u dislike?

[wild mural]

it just feels so clunky

idk how to describe it

u know when something just feels wrong

and u cant really explain it

[fading sky]

No i dont

[wild mural]

idkwhat to say then

it just doesn't feel right to me

[fading sky]

No but there is no clunky parts?

U got cds that work well

Bt on cd

Always

[wild mural]

Its probably just the lag

but I just dont like it atm

[fading sky]

They removed the clunky parts

The lag makes it feels horrid to play fury on beta.

But the rotation is great. And the sd reap is fantastic

[wild mural]

well, I guess I'll see how I feel about it when its live

[fading sky]

Well do u like it on live?

Nothin changes

U hit of more thats it

[wild mural]

It's meh on live

[lapis karma]

Are you possibly feeling what I am? Been trying to explain this to a few guildies...with the current m+ build (thane), I don't like it that there feels a stutter after TC/TB, the whole thing feels fragmented and doesn't flow. Could be a mindbend with the animation or something but flows nowhere near as nice as the older Slayer build (before pre-patch)

[jade cipher]

guys

if 4 people in a party report you, do you get mute/suspension?

[junior oyster]

What might you have done that everyone in the party would report you lol

[plush zephyr]

No.

[lapis karma]

Got reported for being Fury?

[jade cipher]

i mean they were 4 party stack, he made a remark and answered in a bit of a racist way

fury 20 gambit prepatch

[dense elbow]

No reap, no BS - Slayer, 3.5/10, cant recommend

at least OF looks "good"

[frank dawn]

What is this cursed build

[plush zephyr]

French players being racist?

https://tenor.com/view/hi-gif-25235861

BR/FR/RU players, be wildin’

[frozen trail]

isnt it kazzak server players?

[jade cipher]

no i was to them

[junior oyster]

So ideally, yeah, you'd catch a ban for being a twat, but it usually takes a looot of reports

[plush zephyr]

yeah hope you get banned

I love you tho

[jade cipher]

we both went to same spot on last boss and since i used leap and he used blink we couldnt do it in first try so we did it on second try. i mean second try of lines not that we wiped

key was timed and i said gg guys, he said what are you? i said i'm a warrior my friend why do you ask, then he said you're an open wound in the group ( while being top dps with 24 interupts)

then i said something a tad racist and i got a warning from blizzard due to reports

[jade cipher]

i think getting banned for being twat is not punishment fitting the crime.

[frozen trail]

dont they do a week of no instance content?

thats what happend to me after making a macros with healthstones saying fixes low dps, got reported

[jade cipher]

idk i'm usually very calm so i have 0 experience on this, hence my question

[plush zephyr]

I’ve only ever reported people for racism, and I’ve gotten the letter saying “player you reported got banned” so, idk. I think they take hate speech more seriously than a lot of other things. Especially going forward with WoW getting a bit more, family friendly.

[shrewd oak]

yo guys what is currently best talents for st? wowhead has it?

[plush zephyr]

Mhmmm

[frozen trail]

bro can i ask you what is this ? 😄

thats some slaanesh levels of memes

[plush zephyr]

yup

[junior oyster]

Difference of opinion 🤷‍♂️

[spare steppe]

dumb question, if you don't have Cleave, what is the prio of whirlwind in AOE?

[modest condor]

brain malfunction

that scenario should not exist

either you are specced into imp ww or there is no aoe

[spare steppe]

fuck posted in the wrong channel, was trying to learn how arms works

fury makes sense to me

[modest condor]

lol

[spare steppe]

fury always has such a nice flow, arms feels like random shit everywhere all at once

[modest condor]

real

[iron portal]

60% of time it works 100% of the time

[jade cipher]

Cleave replaces whirlwind so this scenario doesnt exist

[opal leaf]

which race is good for warrior rn?

[dense elbow]

The usual suspects, and for the same old reasons

Nelf BiS ofc, as always, and any other option is the wrong one

[brittle crow]

should be orc

[junior gale]

Guess you didn't read the part if you don't have cleave.

[bitter palm]

same answer

what are u doign in aoe without cleave

[jade cipher]

i did but i thought it means when its on cd

[junior gale]

Raid

[junior gale]

Cleave usually is never worth picking up for shitter add spawns only council fights where the bosses actually stay together

[bitter palm]

fury exists

chatting

[junior gale]

why even play arms in ST fury exists

[bitter palm]

exactly

[dense elbow]

What if, Fury ST goes under arms, but Fury burst goes above

[frank dawn]

clearly the only answer for arms is they must buff cleave

[junior gale]

yeah if they could buff it more so cleave invades our ST priority more and not just during ravager and execute that would be swell

only button an arms player should press is cleave because blizz hates everything else

[smoky vale]

or just revert to s3 df

tom time

[mint obsidian]

fury looking nice guys? trying to decide warr or lock

[dense elbow]

I dont see the worries, arms clearly going to at worst get hefty aurabuffs

[junior gale]

5%

[dense elbow]

It will be stronger than Fury in no time

[junior gale]

take it or leave it

then after the arms aura buffs it will get nerfed because of fury

ty

[dense elbow]

I still to this day dont know what Arms is supposed to be all about. If fury is the flat dam zz profile, you would expect arms to be explosive.

They both kinda just do flat boring dam profiles

Maybe they will buff Demolish to do giga dam on AoE, no wait...

[olive wraith]

Fury looks about mid, or slightly above mid

[frozen trail]

i will be probably omega wrong, but i would assume its gameplay right?

one is high apm, another is slower/more methodical

its like what is the difference between outlaw and assassination(in single target), one should be faster. Damage profile wise? i dont have a clue

[dense elbow]

Both Fury and Arms got the same GCD values, and both go haste as far as I know

They are the same, different buttons

[olive wraith]

Arms is not that much slower

[frozen trail]

well then, back to the drawing board

[olive wraith]

Afaik it’s got more proc gameplay though

[modest condor]

i mean that's just not true, fury is a lot faster because it has more haste talents

[frozen trail]

thats interesting, is that a new development, or is that the case for a while?

[olive wraith]

Last I saw arms was like 60-65apm while fury was hovering around 70

[junior gale]

yee arms hasnt been slow in many years

been close in APM to fury for a long time now

[slow wolf]

Hi dear warriors, I was a dk main during tww and warlock for many years before. How is warrior looking for midnight? I was asked to play warrior if possible but got little to no clue about its current state

[olive wraith]

Fury is okay

[frank dawn]

yeh, seems above average, but not at the very top

[olive wraith]

Both dk and lok look like they’ll perform better

[frozen trail]

zugzug is alright, just zug is big problem.

[sly pasture]

They will buff and nerf every spec a ton of times over the next few months. Warrior will be fine and bad and overpowered by the time the tier ends

[slow wolf]

Well, I would play lock if it was not for the fact that I can only do keys early in the morning, and getting invited to pugs as warlock has always been a pain in the ass

[sly pasture]

Oh for M+ I would 100% pick warlock

[frozen trail]

last time i have played arms was in shadowlands(the halondrus edition), i could be having memory loss, but i tried both and came to the conclusion that arms was slower(which was good for me, as i was new to warrior)

[olive wraith]

That’s a dps role problem. You won’t have any better luck with warrior

[slow wolf]

You can swap to tank for keys 😎

[frozen trail]

[olive wraith]

You can. But you were asking in fury chat so I was giving the dps perspective

[junior gale]

That was indeed many years ago

[slow wolf]

Yes I believe that dps wise it would be prob the same as warlock for m+

[sly pasture]

it is like 10% less APM which isn’t insignificant

[slow wolf]

Sorry, should have asked in general

[olive wraith]

Nah you’re good. Just wasn’t aware you would consider tanking as well

[olive wraith]

Sure. You might feel a difference of 5-7 apm. But also depends what they mean “slower and more methodical”

To my knowledge arms it much more “methodical” if anything it’s more of a reaction type of gameplay

[sly pasture]

I kind of get it though. I find Arms feels a lot calmer. I feel like Fury is very proc based which feels more dynamic than the moments of Arms where you just chain cleaves and stuff

[junior gale]

I mean arms is very much proc based as well

we just got a new proc too

[dense elbow]

Many ppl get affected by the ton of smaller hits Fury does, thinking it is "faster"

The reap animation delay on SD makes it feel clunky, even if nothing changes

[junior gale]

Arms still waiting for our one true proc to come back Legion tactician

[dense elbow]

It is just how the feedback plays out

[junior gale]

[olive wraith]

Ya idk if I can call a “hit shiny” rotation methodical

But I also only play warrior so idk what would be considered that

I guess feral before midnight?

[mint obsidian]

for m+?

[olive wraith]

For both

[mint obsidian]

apex talents any nice or meh?

[olive wraith]

They’re boring but numerically pretty strong

[mint obsidian]

ah oki

[sly pasture]

Ass rogue

[olive wraith]

Idk sounds bad

[sly pasture]

I think one of the biggest factors in warriors success is Brewmaster staying meta

[unborn delta]

prepatch fury filler feels much worse to me than in s3

[frank crystal]

1 random question !what time we will be able to log in for lvl up this Friday for those who have early access ?

[unborn delta]

i dont nwo

[orchid iron]

are there any specific factions warriors should focus on when midnight launches or is it all useless crap anyway

[wind token]

Idk not like wowhead had a counter and it’s been 6pm est for the last few years

[unborn delta]

i think larias said we should do the renown because you can get champ gear on all your characters in those first 2 weeks

[orchid iron]

oh im gonna do it I just didnt know if any faction is one to focus on, they are bringing back the cartel "pick 1 of 4" thing again with the elves for instance

[junior gale]

google is what you use to get the answer to this not the warrior discord fury channel

[static loom]

You can find a countdown on the frontpage of Wowhead (as well as a few other sites)

[junior gale]

[charred estuary]

oh damn wrong channel

lmfao

[summer quail]

hidden ele shaman

[brittle crow]

is there a place on wowhead to see what every delve is

like which story it is

[fading sky]

Tbf s3 had no filler

[brittle crow]

also wtf does use shared actionbars even do on a talent setup

how do i designate an actionbar as the shared actionbar and which actionbars does it share

[summer urchin]

in ST do you bloodthirst over raging blow as slayer?

[olive wraith]

Rb is almost bottom prio so yes

[summer urchin]

okt y

[rancid socket]

What is the best node to swap for enraged regeneration in M+? Feels bad not having a defensive for certain mechanics at times

[static loom]

The order in which we'd drop talents for AoE, the prio goes as follows:
Enraged Regeneration
Wrath and Fury
Massacre
Executioner's Wrath

Meaning, if you'd want to keep Enraged Regen, and still get both of the AoE talents, you'd want to drop W&F and Massacre

[rancid socket]

That's great to know, thank you

Is it not typically taken because spell reflect is a good enough DR in M+? Im assuming the 20% magic reduction works for most mechanics you want to be hitting a defensive for

[sullen dove]

ya more damage > more living almost all of the time

[rancid socket]

So all the self heal and leech plus enrage DR is enough to get through most mechanics?

I'm just used to having a button to hit on most classes but I guess it's very on brand for fury warriors to push through damage by doing more damage

[static loom]

Pure sim dps wise, it's 0.5% better to drop ER, over Massacre

We are very tanky, baseline

[junior gale]

you got one for every mechanic called Defensive stance!

[static loom]

So you'll have to decide yourself how much ER is worth

[hollow leaf]

ngl even in push keys it's rare I have to press a defensive

if you feel in danger defensive stance is pretty big

[rancid socket]

Ohhh. I totally forgot about that. I guess that's a pretty good defensive too

[junior gale]

its broken especially with stance mastery

[rancid socket]

That's a pretty sweet talent too. Very good to know for prog in midnight . Thanks!

[dim spindle]

Yeah but it's -10% damage. How are you supposed to r1 doing that

Doesn't sound very zug to me

[orchid iron]

yea but im bad at this game

[marble pilot]

Still got spell reflect for the actual bad stuff anyway.

I used ER more for when I was choosing to stand in something for more dps. I can just be less greedy instead

[charred estuary]

I just realized after everything they've given reap a flat 30% chance to proc on BT

Which is exactly congruent with BT's chance to enrage you

they could just make reap say when BT enrages you, you proc reap the storm

[summer quail]

this would make fresh meat actually useful. can't have that!

[charred estuary]

I mean they would have to probably do something with fresh meat to avoid the tab targeting problem

Make it baseline and say first BT after entering combat or something

[dense elbow]

why are we making things more complicated for no reason, what are ya trying to solve?

[charred estuary]

It doesnt change anything it would just make more sense if all of BT's proc chances were more cohesive

like we have crit procs - reap procs - enrage procs, and they all work out to be about the same, 30% ish separate procs

[dense elbow]

And that is a problem that they happen independently because of?

Guess it could make WoW traffic and calculations per event easier for the server

maybe?

[charred estuary]

It's not really a problem, but given that they have made huge changes to try to make the game more understandable at a glance I could see them caring about it

I think you're assuming I feel its a problem, I dont lol

[dense elbow]

Just aint a changes for changes sake kind of guy. If the wheel is turning right, leave it be

So when I see someone talk about changing it, I presume it has a reason based in something that could be improved

[charred estuary]

yeah I mean I guess? I just thought it was funny that they changed the way reap works so many times and it ended up being the same as enrage

[dense elbow]

cause reap RNG got the same chance to enrage me IRL as ingame

[sullen dove]

So your reap off bt is always enraged

kinda just makes the most sense

[charred estuary]

and Idk I would have to imagine for their target audience of new players, that just makes way more sense for them to read

makes the enrage on BT chance feel like it actually matters too especially since you never really need it with extending and rampage

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[sullen dove]

the more likely issue is just reaps come from hero tree and enrage thing like either fury tree or like base spell book thing

could be written in hero talent tree as “when bt procs enrages” or something but eh

I’d rather have avatar baked into reck tho since there’s like negative purpose to have them separate

[dense elbow]

And what if they decide to change the proc rate?

... Again

[sullen dove]

yea I mean for reaps maybe but they are never touching enrage proc chance lol

[charred estuary]

idk maybe they can just leave it alone

or if they need to tune it down they can just tune the damage

[dense elbow]

Increase the chance, reduce the dam or better yet, reduce both

[charred estuary]

I would like to reiterate for the record this absolutely does not matter lol

Id honestly prefer them worry about the 9 other problems in our trees

[dense elbow]

Your request is denied

[charred estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/oaky-okay-ok-meme-typo-oakley-gif-1135585561201001219

[dense elbow]

The matter shall continue to be treated as a serious discussion around your opinion

[charred estuary]

why does this gif say oaky lmfao

[dense elbow]

Prob some weird insider joke thing

[novel oasis]

Because that’s what the guy says

In a really timid voice

Saw it on a ski video

Ksi

[charred estuary]

Do you really think I chose this gif without knowing that context

[novel oasis]

Yes

[charred estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/oaky-okay-ok-meme-typo-oakley-gif-1135585561201001219

[novel oasis]

You might be regarded lol

I dunno

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-meme-funny-awkward-gif-15152436

[charred estuary]

much better this one should be further up

[plush zephyr]

Funky is highly regarded, yes.

They must be protected at all cost.

[novel oasis]

Aight lol

[sinful spoke]

chat im trying to come back to wow what addons work and which dont so i can delete them

[sullen dove]

most things except weakauras fine

details kinda chopped a bit

but i think still better to have than not

but lot of the old weakauras ppl would use are now like individual addons

like a whirlwind tracker separate addon or enrage bar separate addon n shit

and idk some ui addons or something i guess some chuds use

[smoky vale]

elvui is still alive

[dapper goblet]

remember when wow was fun with addons

[sullen dove]

gromnak will never recover from this

[sudden tusk]

How to intervene goblin without weakaura

[drowsy heron]

its probably even more lightweight than before as well

[dapper goblet]

just wish details wasnt shot in the head

and all fucked up

[sullen dove]

yea that shits annoyin asf

oh no they have access to soooo much information by letting you see number of casts or how much each cast does and average hits and crits and whatever

clown ass devs

[brittle crow]

can anyone tell me why i got undermine rep from a delve

[sullen dove]

y not

[smoky vale]

because you did a bountiful delve

[brittle crow]

those give rep??

holy guacamole

[summer quail]

they give a random rep out of the tww ones. once you get a rep for that faction it's a weekly lockout, so since you got undermine from that delve now you can only get one of the other 5 from other delves.

[brittle crow]

holy guacamole

[summer quail]

iirc it's only from bountiful delves

[dapper goblet]

careful

dont want you getting banned

actually take gio out with you

[sullen dove]

i will do my duty

[drowsy heron]

I want my scrolling combat text back

[sudden tusk]

god bless

[brittle crow]

whats the fuck winds of mysterious fortune ends tomorrow?? morning???

why.

[undone flower]

Midnight comes out this week

[sullen dove]

cuz explode

[brittle crow]

not tomorrow!!

[undone flower]

On next reset week

[brittle crow]

so end it then !

[dusky moon]

noob

[brittle crow]

:(

[dusky moon]

IM KIDDING

i sorry 🙁

[brittle crow]

🔮

tell me when the next winds of mysterious fortune will be

[dusky moon]

2027

[brittle crow]

:(

[smoky vale]

6

@waxen vigil

[brittle crow]

6 7

[indigo arch]

tfw just discovered that zperl lives on as tperl

no more blizz frames

[jade cipher]

this is my fury slayer dungeon build, the amount of cc and interupts i bring to team as dps warrior is bonkers

[sullen dove]

Ya the same 3 we’ve had for like 5+ years

but all conveniently takeable now that the moved point threshold

[jade cipher]

yeah well, our shockwave wasnt always a big cone, fear had target cap and we didnt have ranged silence

[sullen dove]

rumbling earth had extended shockwave range for like a long time too

if fear isn’t target-capped anymore then that’s cool I guess

shout mastery gonna go brazy at lvl 90 surely

[jade cipher]

right now i like wrecking throw interupt, i have a macro for it on my mouse button 5, it casts on my target and when i have mouse over, it castas on mouse over, but i have a problem currenty that it wont cast if i hover over my focus frame

but when i change it from mouse 5 to a keyboard button its fixed, its driving me crazy

[tidal marten]

can u share the macro ?

[undone flower]

Are you using blizzard mouseover options perchance ?

[jade cipher]

i am not,

[jade cipher]

weird thing is, it works perfect on keyboard buttons but not mouse buttons

#showtooltip wrecking throw
/cast [@mouseover,exists,nodead] Wrecking Throw; [@target,exists,nodead] Wrecking Throw

[undone flower]

Okok I was just asking bc this, has the same issue as you

Kinda ironic Blizzard stuff has sometime small errors making it unusable by me, like the cdm alerts

[jade cipher]

i am looking into the issue from other angles

like razer software

[undone flower]

I have a driverless mouse

I will log in and try your macro in 5 min

[jade cipher]

ok, to tell you exactly what the issue is, when i hover over nameplate or the actual mob body it works, and when i am not hovering it casts on my main target, but when i hover over focus frame it doesnt work, but on keyboard buttons it does

[undone flower]

The issue I had with Blizz thingy was : I could not cast by mouseover party frames with button 5, I don’t remember trying with focus frame

And the issue was only with some spells, it was instant casts like rejuv (I tried on rdruid yes)

[jade cipher]

ok

[undone flower]

I installed clique to do it, unsure if it is updated

[jade cipher]

i might find a keyboard button for it, right now my muscle memory is in shambles

[undone flower]

i have the same issue

it works with keyboard but not with button 5

strangely, the macro works with blizzard click casting

if i put your macro here it works, but it won't cast on target, but putting the macro in the hotbar fix it

i can mouseover button 5 the focus frame and cast on the target if i don't

@jade cipher it works even with using wrecking throw, the macro is not needed

[jade cipher]

ok

i i will use this

damn, you're a life saver

[stoic kindle]

#showtooltip
/cast [@focus, harm, exists] [@mouseover, harm, exists][@target] Wrecking Throw

this is mine, thats the way it should be done

you set the focus/mouseover/target in order of importance, then you add the ability

[merry night]

are we doomed in raid or are we movin vicariously

[plush zephyr]

Fury will be fine/good in raid from everything I’ve seen.

[delicate rock]

seems like a very solid A tier so far, so no reason to complain for fury, arms on the other hand? rip bozos

[woven valley]

But how does the mouse do his errands if he doesn’t have his driver?

[warm crag]

ask again on the mythic week/2nd mythic week, tuning is not done until then so its just random opinions until then

[hardy bluff]

mouse buttons and mouseover macros dont work
not sure if someone else already told you

[hollow leaf]

the last [@target] isn't needed, can just be an empty bracket

[brittle crow]

wym they dont work

[hollow leaf]

using them daily so not sure what you mean

the only thing that's never worked for me is assigning a mouseover macro to a mouse side button

that's something that's been a problem since df at least

but mouseover macros work just fine if assigned to a regular keyboard key

[stoic kindle]

works fine for me, but googling it shows youre not the only one with that problem

i think it just doesnt work when hovering over frames, some blizzard design

[jade cipher]

ty my friend

[jade cipher]

ty

[brittle crow]

wym assigning

just have a hotbar slot bound to whatever ur mouse macros are set to

[hollow leaf]

yes that is what assigning means

[brittle crow]

thinkge

idk what the problem would be then unless you're binding your mouse keys to something wow doesn't like

[hollow leaf]

what mäksy said

supposedly a lot of people have that issue

[stoic kindle]

yeah i tried it with focusing on the unit, then on the frame, the mouseover frame just doesnt work with mousebuttons

[brittle crow]

but what do u mean "with mousebuttons"

my mousebuttons aren't mousebuttons

they're f1-f12

[coarse nest]

Same here

Works well for me

[hardy bluff]

mouse 3-5 are the normal base bind for them

like the side ones

if you rebind them it works

but the base button does not

[brittle crow]

mouse3 is middle click no?

but i get what ur saying

[coarse nest]

Believe so yes

[stoic kindle]

yes, the default mousebuttons, m3-m5 with mouseover macros on them dont work when mousing over frames

[strange vortex]

hey, I'm going back to warrior in midnight. And I'm just lost with wowhead and icy veins. They both mention bladestorm in single target rotation or in the opener, but they dont pick it in talents. And there are two dead talents in the slayer hero talent tree. Is this ok?

[stoic kindle]

we now use either avatar or bladestorm, theyre in the same spot on talent tree. as you can see, you have to select either avatar or bladestorm yourself for the rotation to show it correctly. Avatar is just better in st over bladestorm, even with the 2 dead hero talents

[strange vortex]

oh okay, I see, thank you

[sinful spoke]

very amazing design ty blizzard

[gusty cloak]

is raider.io going to still be a thing come midnight?

[coarse nest]

Do you have any reason to doubt that?

[gusty cloak]

i was under the impression blizzard had its own built in io tracker

[strange vortex]

they only implemented the score

[tall axle]

guys do legacy trinkets work? like hand of justice from depths for example.

[stoic kindle]

some work some dont, those that work have been statsquished

im sure you can find some niche trinket that was missed by blizzards squish, or have one in bank or something

[jade cipher]

slayer fury warrior feels like a very good spec, playstyle wise, tuning aside, it plays well

there is nothing wrong with not having avatar, its new expansion. just try new things

[dense drum]

Just prepared my specs for midnight, after setting up UI theres a big 2 number on the screen., anyone know how to remove it? Only happened when i set up prot, not the other specs. I know its my off spec but still 😄

[reef summit]

It might be related to your available blocking master processes. Try looking in the reload timer settings.

[lament lagoon]

Alright back on my bullshit

what new in midnight

[young swan]

BT is a really good button and so is execute

RB is really bad

[lament lagoon]

Zugderstood

[olive wraith]

No tuning till march 17

Rip arms

[modest condor]

lmao

that's actually hilarious considering how all over the place tuning is

[frank dawn]

Just don't play Arms, any other spec should be fine until then xd

[sudden tusk]

🔮

[odd cipher]

just play fury until unequipping offhand is viable, arms will be fine with whatever stats you'll have by then

[olive wraith]

“Fine”

🤣

[odd cipher]

read first part

[compact knot]

yo guys

if they buff odyns fury by like 150% between now and heroic week

PLEASE dont use it heroic week

thats all i ask

untalent the button

[steep rose]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hidden-9

[remote bobcat]

[olive wraith]

They won’t. No tuning till season launch

[compact knot]

read bottom of the post

[odd cipher]

technically you'll get tuning with reset, so it'll happen before/literally at the same time as season starts

[compact knot]

they can change the dates of tuning w/e and if they do buff odyns on heroic week, just dont use it

the button would be crazy in this raid icl

ptsd of last heroic week

[frank dawn]

I think there is about zero chance of Odyn's buffs at this point. Our tier set is lame, but we def aren't the worst tier bonus either, so I think it's also unlikely they'd add some other effect to it.

[lament lagoon]

so is ragin blow nvr used now

bloodthirst rampage

RB is fillr between BT and ramp?

Im talking raid ST

[young swan]

u still use it, its just very low prio

[olive wraith]

You’ll get OF cdr and enjoy it

[sullen dove]

ya i mean is pretty enjoyable

esp if you dont take avatar in aoe theres like zero things to line it up with other than reck and reck is for chuds

[gaunt moat]

i hope you guys are rdy to be humiliated by guardian druids on bosses

since they didn't nerf the spec st dmg

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1193695233314144398/1474877849864372536/20260221_221721.jpg?ex=699e1589&is=699cc409&hm=ac29063e799ad861742f392332a798ba21d1106a32fc4720eb573de81f105b4c&=&format=webp

[hollow leaf]

imagine caring about beta numbers

[frank dawn]

The tuning pass they’ve already announced that will happen before content begins will absolutely nerf bear lol

[gaunt moat]

let's hope so

[steep rose]

https://klipy.com/gifs/angry-throw-3

[chrome spindle]

Can someone explain what makes rampage glow on the CDM? Just learning fury and can't work out which buff is doing it or if its something else 😂

[naive vault]

Is there any significant difference in leveling 80-90 as Arms vs Fury? Due to cleave/aoe, self healing, CDs, or anything else?

[waxen vigil]

thinking they wont nerf guardian before real content comes out is brainletmode

[gaunt moat]

who said i was thinking that? i just said they will humiliate us at the beginning

My bad for not giving every single details of my thought process when i sent a laid back message, i forgot some ppl can't mentally extrapolate around here

[hollow leaf]

not sure, only thing I can imagine is it being usable

[chrome spindle]

Nah its not that, i can sit at full rage without it glowing

Not enrage or executioners wrath either

[loud field]

hi peeps silly question, is slayer still not gonna use bladestorm in midnight or is that changing?

at level 90 I mean, not right now

[young swan]

u will use it at level 90

[loud field]

kk ty

it's better than avatar at that point?

[young swan]

yeah

like its better than avatar the second you introduce more than 1 target

but its better on pure ST at 90

not that it matters cause there is 0 ST fights in any of the next 3 raids

[loud field]

got ya got ya

ty for info

[young swan]

🫡

enjoy the xpac

[loud field]

I plan to make my warrior my alt and gather bitch

fury is fun but definitely missing bladestorm lol

[young swan]

there are definitely better classes than warrior for that but you do you 😭

[loud field]

no I know lol

I just figured i'd do a gather toon for once

[young swan]

fair play

[loud field]

I absolutely hate druid in all shapes playstyle wise even if it's bis gatherer

sounds weird but I don't want to only have the character for gathering and that's it I guess idk lol

[young swan]

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-gif-23832997

[feral ivy]

anyone use plater?

[winter shoal]

Yes

[feral ivy]

kept getting errors and it was just had to update it.. havent updated my addons in monthor more

[indigo arch]

Fury will be better leveling as usual (it's also dramatically better than arms this launch)

[compact knot]

yes you typed that 10 minutes ago

[cyan star]

Fury will be better leveling as usual (it's also dramatically better than arms this launch)

[covert roost]

I hear fury is better leveling, as usual. Would anyone say it's dramatically so?

[winter condor]

Fury will be better leveling as usual (it's also dramatically better than arms this launch)

[silver stirrup]

yo, anyone know if they're taking away cartel chips tomorrow?

[cyan star]

Cartel chips been vendorable since S3 started, no?

[silver stirrup]

I'm trying to find out if they're removing the vendors because EA is on Thursday

or taking the chips away

[cyan star]

if it's like DF, the vendors were still available for a few weeks

but you couldn't obtain more thingies

[indigo arch]

Phone lag, I only typed it once

[feral ivy]

Wild ask but idk where to ask and I googled everything. But anyone know this tv show where a woman gets arrested on purpose and exposes the government just to free her husband out of jail or something

[tiny axle]

The show is called Melania, and I think they made a documentary about it too.

[storm rune]

is her husband a governor?

[earnest canyon]

Melania's husband is God Emperor Lord Sir President Donald J Trump

[plush zephyr]

[vernal jungle]

anyone else think the arms apex talents are a lot better thought out then our fury ones?

[undone flower]

I think they are very similar tbf

[agile notch]

did you find it