fury

[dense elbow]

(blizz plz)

[bright axle]

nerf warrior

[rancid zenith]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2aAtwyfqjQY71Nb9?fight=last

Guys I don't know why but I feel like my dps is lower than I'd like.
Can anyone chime in, what can I do ?

[unborn delta]

i see your problem

you forgot to click the big dam button

[rancid zenith]

?

[olive wraith]

Am I tripping or do I not see thunder blast

[heavy dock]

Nah thunder blast is included in thunderclap dmg if you open it

[olive wraith]

Oh damn I swear it was separated before

[heavy dock]

Probably was

[olive wraith]

Are you pressing enough tc?

[heavy dock]

Pressing you mean?

[olive wraith]

Yup

Auto correct is ass sometimes

[unreal onyx]

blud got slimed

account hacked gg

[rancid zenith]

I try to use it for 4x ST weave as much as possible, other than that I don't let it stew in 2 stacks.

[olive wraith]

Tc has a pretty high prio in aoe situations

Even if you don’t need to refresh cleave stacks

[rancid zenith]

even with tc ? not just when it converted to tb ?

[olive wraith]

Correct. Especially when avatar is active

Base clap kinda fucks

Check wowhead to see where it actually falls in prio cause if off hand

[rancid zenith]

and this is regardless of target count ?

[olive wraith]

But it’s pretty strong

Na in aoe situations

[rancid zenith]

I meant even as 2 target

[limber fractal]

where is your flask?, cant see it in buffs

[rancid zenith]

alch chaos

[olive wraith]

In st clap while avatar is active is strong though

I believe 2t clap is generally high as well

Again, I’d suggest checking wowhead for actual prio, but it is strong

[rancid zenith]

it says tc is prio when you need to apply iwt.

[olive wraith]

Right that’s the highest prio

But it appears to be higher than exe and ramp

[rancid zenith]

but normal tc at 9th prio

[olive wraith]

Rek and avatar aren’t super rotational so let’s toss those out (obv press them on cd)

OF is ever 45 seconds

Enrage shouldn’t be falling off so ramp at the top can be misleading

[rancid zenith]

tb>bt>rampage-115rage>tc>exec>rampage>rb

[olive wraith]

Ye

[rancid zenith]

I play according to this as much as possible.

[olive wraith]

👍

[rancid zenith]

but my dps wasn't a problem last week, it is now

Trying to understand what has changed.

[olive wraith]

Dps did drop a little in general

[rancid zenith]

I didn't let mfs pass me until this week, now I'm having problems 😛

[young swan]

we lost 3 talents that all contributed to our damage

👍

tblast also got nerfed

[olive wraith]

It also appears like you’re not using dual spec talent in the class tree

Imo that’s stronger than the 3% ap and haste talent

[rancid zenith]

most people in 21+ bracket use commander over dws

I thought there might be something to it

checking latest builds at high ranks regularly

[olive wraith]

It might be

6% damage sounds better to me

[rancid zenith]

yeah when you think about it, feels like it should be better.

maybe it's better when you have a near full physical dps setup.

for overall grp damage

[olive wraith]

Nah

Commander only affects you

[rancid zenith]

yeah you're right

Thanks for insight guys, I thought I was going crazy

[olive wraith]

It’s pre patch. Dick around and have fun

Don’t stress about dps rn

[restive walrus]

yall prefer regular orc or maghar orc for warrior

[rancid zenith]

my only stress is we're having a not-so-friendly competition between friends to do all keys at 20 before prepatch ends, so I'm trying to do better ^^

[knotty violet]

regular

they have ugly colors but i love the racial lol

[rancid zenith]

reduced stun and ap increase(ORC) VS secondary stat boost and pet hp increase(mORC)

[brittle crow]

i like maghar voices better

plus they work w the tusks better, naturally

my main is a maghar

was a green orc cuz i started before maghar, race changed when they came out

cleansed myself of corruption fr fr

[rancid zenith]

Before they could be at upright stance, I hated normal orcs, now I prefer normal orcs over maghar, it's been a while ^^.

[brittle crow]

none of my normal orcs are upright

feels wrong for a warlock

my warlock is my only green orc left

[lunar patrol]

are we nog longer using bladestorm on slayer? im confused by the guides & builds

[rancid zenith]

A character that yells honor and blood should be upright in my book. That's the way I feel ^^

[rancid zenith]

on ST ava pulls ahead for tuning stupidity ^^

[brittle crow]

you use bladestorm in slayer aoe

which we don't play

if there's aoe u go thane

[lunar patrol]

so we bassicly just sit on death talents in the slayer tree?

[brittle crow]

yes!

[plain shard]

Got banned from FC disc server for nothing

Based experience

[sullen dove]

he-hell nah

ill be takin my reaps

[brittle crow]

what does nothing mean bro.

[plain shard]

Said a sexist joke

[sullen dove]

nice

[brittle crow]

🥀

[sullen dove]

🥀

[lunar patrol]

thanks for clearing tha tup guys, i practiced slayer last week and i was stunned by this wierd new tree but ok i guess :p

[plain shard]

idk ppl nowadays can’t take a punch

Truly a fight club/warrior discord

lol

[sullen dove]

i mean idk theres like a 5% chance any sexist joke is funny probably just comes off as more offputting/cringe most of the time so depends on context ig

[brittle crow]

smells like gamer around this guy

[plain shard]

it is alright.. guess being myself is too much for some

I meant No disrespect

but they know better

[sullen dove]

holy

[plain shard]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sullen dove]

or did u mean to type no

ok lol

[plain shard]

lol

[brittle crow]

wait what'd i miss

[sullen dove]

i meant to disrespect

[plain shard]

Typo

[sullen dove]

gigachad

[brittle crow]

🔥

[sullen dove]

but ye

🔥

[edgy widget]

do they know better? cause idk who the f you are

[plain shard]

same

[brittle crow]

last time archi spoke to me like that i got kicked

[plain shard]

yeah, looks like new ban just for fun

[edgy widget]

I mean the guy has been here 5 minutes and I already feel like I know why FC got rid of him

[edgy widget]

that's ok, we were all new players once, you'll catch on

[sullen dove]

just a minor amount of tomfoolery

[edgy widget]

as long as you, ya know, just act like a civilized person

[plain shard]

Feel free to ban me and then msg them “I banned mercury cause u folks did”

what a day

[sullen dove]

idk if anyone here cares about classic disc enough to do dat..

this is the real chud's game

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-spin-gorilla-gif-20269552

bladestorm

[brittle crow]

classic players...

[sullen dove]

ong...

sod best thing to ever come outta classic

[plain shard]

Tbh sod was nice but just that

[brittle crow]

classic players got bored of sod because it wasn't solved 18 years ago

u can only have fun with a game if ur following a strict routine

[edgy widget]

SoD started off rough, turned into a pretty fun game after L40 phase, then ended

[plain shard]

Idk I like classic cause it is simple

And more down to earth

[sullen dove]

yea think allowable to say warr is like one of the best/most engaging classes on classic

since they actually got so much variety in abilities and stuff and stances

but 80% of classic classes are just stand there and auto attack or chain cast 1 spell

[plain shard]

true

is that bad?

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-peaceful-life-galen-erso-star-wars-rogue-one-mads-mikkelsen-gif-26203910

[sullen dove]

i mean just dont think that fun after a point

was enjoying leveling hardcore ret pally until i died like an absolute moron at lvl 48

but like pallies especially was just entirely auto attack swings

[plain shard]

each to their own

[sullen dove]

with utility to keep yourself alive which was cool but the combat was like hitting training dummies

[undone flower]

You can only die as a moron snoredih

[sullen dove]

thats why think sod did so good at bringing all the like underbaked specs up to a reasonable level

pmuch any spec was playable in sod

[brittle crow]

the best thing to come from sod is blizz considering adding shaman and warlock tank to retail

[sullen dove]

and actually did something

yea i mean that would be kinda weird at this point but i rly dont think warlock needs 3 dps specs

[brittle crow]

it'd be a 4th

..

[sullen dove]

oh nah

[brittle crow]

same w shaman

[sullen dove]

in sod it like is demo lock basically thats the tank

they just like all feel the same kinda

demos maybe the most unique with a bunch of demons

but just cast some shit dot some shit

spam some bolts

[brittle crow]

that's kinda how the description made it sound

[plain shard]

Never played warlock

[brittle crow]

for retail

really i just don't know why shamans can't be tanks yet

[sullen dove]

be cool if they got their old metamorph form back but cant have dh's feeling like they arent special

when they stole it from warlock in the first place

manifest destiny ahh

[brittle crow]

they do on sod don't they

[sullen dove]

ya

[brittle crow]

they tank with it

[plain shard]

gotta say in here at least I am not being called names for no reason

[sullen dove]

sod melee hunter was like peak dopamine

i mean cant say what u were like in the other server but idk being normal/friendly usually gets the same returned

[plain shard]

Seen them do lots of dmg

[sullen dove]

and like while u prolly shouldntve said what u said its also possible just happened upon bad luck and the wrong mod saw your msg and something and just didnt wanna even look at it

[plain shard]

fun gameplay

[sullen dove]

yea

i mean

raptor strike resets

it did kinda just feel like retail fury a little bit but like idk it just moved so much faster

dual wielding 1hands helped with that ig

[edgy widget]

I am going to give you a chance to learn from your mistakes rather than preemptively ban you
but just to be clear we're not tolerant of that stuff here either, so I would advise you to not be yourself around people you do not know very well

[sullen dove]

ehh

lol

[edgy widget]

then I will ban you

[sullen dove]

[plain shard]

Got it

[edgy widget]

again, save your shitty sense of humor for your equally small minded friends

[plain shard]

Hope u catched that

[sullen dove]

ya sure i mean dont think it was that great but eh

[plain shard]

I know it was bad

[sullen dove]

happens

[plain shard]

Rude

[edgy widget]

you'll get over it

[sullen dove]

must remove emote now no

[plain shard]

I did and to point out it wasn’t meant to offend anyone

[edgy widget]

We're not going to relitigate it here, so please move on

[sullen dove]

@smoky vale

[sudden tusk]

[sullen dove]

be warned

[sullen dove]

you as well

[sudden tusk]

Is that a Farmville pig

What is that

[sullen dove]

farm merge valley but similar

will i eradicate tyrant today

[edgy widget]

discount farmville

[sullen dove]

find out tonight at 11

(no)

[sudden tusk]

Long live da king

[sullen dove]

long live the chud

[sudden tusk]

I got the mount this week it plays the 11 music

It owns

[sullen dove]

think i would go insane

[plain shard]

Yeah folks I ll go; sad it is not welcomed to openly communicate

[sullen dove]

🫡

[sudden tusk]

🖖

[sullen dove]

need me a dancing green music mount

[sudden tusk]

My raid group explodes on dancing green and the bat lady

But clear 12 easier

[plain shard]

https://tenor.com/view/gladiator-maximus-reaction-meme-my-honest-reaction-meme-russell-crowe-gif-18395744388071666400

[sudden tusk]

They hate the bat gimmick

[sullen dove]

bruh

bat is literally afkmaxxing

the brothers r always an insane reclear for us

last two weeks took like 1 hr +

[sudden tusk]

They run too far and pop the chain and get tilted they get a DD

[sullen dove]

lot of creatures in eu

oh that bat

thought u meant the stomp

yea that mech is annoying esp as caster

but idk

just follow it

4head

[sudden tusk]

Well we are doing funny melee uptime on the stomp

[sullen dove]

yea my tank sorta does somethin like that i think u can go right into it the moment it spawns and clear early

only 1 person tho i imagine

and follow it out to not get hit by the 2 in the middle

i wish fflogs had any form of like an ilvl parse

like i gotta know if my blues are because i cant play the game or im just 10 ilvls under everyone else clearing it

cuz i think i had a literal like perfect xtremes pull with like immaculate cd usage and no dying or anything and still boom 59

cool man

[sudden tusk]

Parsing in ffxiv is even more cringe then wow

[sullen dove]

especially cuz it also depends on what the rest of your group does

goes off your rdps which is like your dmg and also how much your buffs contributed to ppl

so if the other ppl arent doing dmg they arent giving u as much dps from your buff

so its like an everyone parses or no one parses thing

and have to align buffs

[dapper goblet]

um this is a wow channel

[dapper goblet]

take your donkey game chat elsewhere

[sullen dove]

silence

[dapper goblet]

or else

[sudden tusk]

Well the 100 parsers legit take every gear piece even if it's not bis. Then spam the fights week 1 to get locked in 100s.

[sullen dove]

can u decline my app already its been 3 weeks man

what are your guys doin

[dapper goblet]

i dont deal with that stuff

[sudden tusk]

[dapper goblet]

ask vil

[undone flower]

Idk if it’s still a thing, but being able to move slightly before the end of a cast created some behaviors on me

[sullen dove]

i dont think vil even does that no

[sudden tusk]

They have like 400 warriors in there

[sullen dove]

ya

[sudden tusk]

And feral is down bad so apook is even more caged

[sullen dove]

apook said im in if its a 5 warrior tier

w

[sudden tusk]

Keeping a massive biter down

[sullen dove]

release the cat

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-bite-love-gif-17939552

[dapper goblet]

correct

[sullen dove]

only bald/max/steve/marok are in that channel

[dapper goblet]

@foggy thicket fix the app bot you pig

[sullen dove]

mentioned

[sudden tusk]

Can't wait to log in and do quests for 3 weeks while I wait for the game to come out

[foggy thicket]

tell max to stop being lazy

[sudden tusk]

At least I have deadlock

[sullen dove]

do this

yo you hoppin on overwatch

no 2

[sudden tusk]

Overwatch can blow up

[sullen dove]

5 new heroes omgoih

wtf

[misty edge]

number just went up to 6

[sullen dove]

gg

[brittle crow]

who's on deadlock

rn

...

[sullen dove]

smadsnox

[sudden tusk]

Stupid perma fly cat can be turned into pet chow

I'm at work rn I wish

[brittle crow]

need someone to teach my dumb ass how to moba

i only play wow and fighting games

[sullen dove]

get on league

[sudden tusk]

It's pretty simple. Always be farming. Once you have a soul lead you take objectives to get more soul lead then win

Half the reason games take forever and comebacks happen is because people over farm once they have a big lead and dont just win the game

Or you can play mewgenics

[brittle crow]

i haven't bought it yet! i want to

can i justify it when my bank account is in the triple digits tho..

[sullen dove]

that the game where guy got h3h3 and idubbz and chrischan to voice act

goat

[brittle crow]

both chris chans

[chrome night]

how is fury looking in midnight?

[sullen dove]

idk who the other one is

[brittle crow]

liquid chris

the real and honest goat

[hardy vault]

Are there any dummies that don’t lose health? So we don’t have to be in execute all the time?

[sullen dove]

maybe if u put down a turnip punching bag tho idk how much that has

also a toy u have to have

st ones usually stay above exe for a while but the aoe ones yea are 0 health instantly

[brittle crow]

turnip punching bag is good yea

[sudden tusk]

If you want to practice rotation can just take your gear off and buy lvl 10 greens

[brittle crow]

but it will get to execute eventually

that's smart ...

[sullen dove]

guys why is fury warrior doing 300 dps

we are so cooked

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/deadlock-apollo-vote-for-deadlock-apollo-gif-9999395782930039329

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/beocord-deadlock-silver-deadlock-silver-vote-4-silver-gif-4914506623649889386

[young swan]

um this is a wow channel

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-disbelief-what-huh-gif-15892515

[sullen dove]

take your donkey game chat elsewhere

[dapper goblet]

this game gets a pass

because its made by valve

so its related to dota

and xan is a dota lover

even if he's poop sock at it

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/sport-dota2snapfire-quotes-dota-omg-gamer-gif-16079664

[dapper goblet]

that song came out before you were born

[sullen dove]

mm no

somewhat close

[flat river]

Vi sitter här i Venten och spelar lite Dota

banger song

[flat river]

this is general chat

[brittle crow]

can u invite people to the deadlock discord or do i have to launch deadlock for it

[honest trail]

Anyone playing Slayer M+ atm?

[median narwhal]

Soooooo
Who tf thought it was a good idea?
Thx Blizzard I guess? (no)

[dense elbow]

This guy

[olive wraith]

Absolute cinema

[median narwhal]

Should have made us choose between Titan's grip and Bladestorm if their idea was to obliterate bladestorm

[olive wraith]

Bs is good in anything that has more than 1 target

But it is dumb that avatar is better in st

[lost thorn]

I think there is no salvation anymore we should shut everything down just like the pink guys

[frank dawn]

Need a small buff to Bladestorm to put it above Avatar in single target, then still buff Culling Cyclone if you want to choose to give your bladestorm more oomph

because I'm pretty certain that Culling is still just worse than Brutal Finish in all situations even after the recent buff

[dim spindle]

Doomers are taking over 🙁

You can manipulate reality with magical thinking, friends. All will be well if you believe it to be so

... right?

Please tell me I'm right, somebody.

[dark frost]

we change weapon enchant at all with prepatch?

[coarse nest]

Trying to min max that 30k dps aye

[olive wraith]

We’re not that bad

[lost thorn]

not that bad might as well be nonexistent

[frank dawn]

Bladestorm being dumb doesn't mean the spec is bad lol

[compact knot]

the spec is dumb

does okayish damage though

[smoky vale]

hi

[compact knot]

yo

[smoky vale]

level check

[compact knot]

on WHAT

[smoky vale]

tbc

[compact knot]

oh boy

62 but i lowkey gave up already

[smoky vale]

same tbh

im 67

[compact knot]

they buffed armor so i cant anymore

its not possible

[smoky vale]

@waxen vigil

thugs in shambles

[compact knot]

armor values went up 11x on mobs so melee dps are pretty much useless

[waxen vigil]

What

[smoky vale]

im 67 on tbc

[smoky vale]

i miss frost and uh main

but im not gonna rejoin

[honest trail]

Ara 16 Slayer with RR

Exec>Ramp>BT>WW with keeping Rend up in aoe

Ignored RB in aoe, spammed WW instead

& Rend to fill in ST

Feels so bad to play xD

[smoky vale]

mickeymouse season

[dense elbow]

I spot 30k overall, I think to myself "I did 40k on my tank last ruin now didnt i?"

got to be ST last boss summary right there

[honest trail]

Idk I chose the Overall segment

But maybe it's wrong?

[stiff carbon]

Hey buddies, if I can't handle high apm specs because of old hands, I shouldn't be playing Fury correct?

[sullen dove]

mfw you divide 35000k dmg by 35k dps and very clearly can tell its the overall by virtue of it being 1000 seconds long, unless they had a reaaaaaaaally long boss fight

[sullen dove]

its maybe one of the higher ones but i dont think a majority of classes are too different

probably not much more than like 10-15 apm between top and bottom id say

[stiff carbon]

Ok ty

[sullen dove]

but also like idk how you play for my part tho regardless of apm i do just kinda spam the same button multiple times in 1 gcd which i prolly dont have to do but i like to feel like im trying to get it off as soon as possible

im sure if you actually like do 1 finger press every second or so like the gcd window really is its prolly not so bad

[dense elbow]

most specs fill in all their GCDs (casts something when able), with the exception for that being casters (that got a cast, aka, waiting for the spell to go off, longer than the GCD)

Your best bet for low APM is things like evoker, that got long channels on their spells

[sullen dove]

evoker is really fun this is true

[stiff carbon]

I played enhancement in dragonflight and it was brutal

[frank dawn]

I mean...does anyone actually play like this?

[sullen dove]

idk couldnt imagine it

but maybe

you can def do that for dev lol

1 disintegrate every 2 seconds

payphone

[frank dawn]

tru

[dense elbow]

If it is really bad, you could play with the increased GCD from 1 button macro for the filler spells

it was what 20% longer GCD?

I dont remember

[sudden tusk]

Post the pig again

[sudden tusk]

Ty

[olive wraith]

I’ll take mediocre over whatever arms is atm

[dense elbow]

Arms is secret opop, build is just under wraps. There was a guy who talked about it, but he got silenced

[frank dawn]

Arms is pristine tier super stinky dog shit

[dense elbow]

Secret build was Slayer with something that ppl didnt usually take

I would tell you more, but I couldnt care less about arms

[frank dawn]

it is known

[dense elbow]

https://media.tenor.com/gewUN8uwSLcAAAAM/it-is-known-game-of-thrones.gif

[frank dawn]

what do you do if they buff Arms Bladestorm by 51% tho

[dense elbow]

Not notice?

https://media.tenor.com/Ql4puupzE2kAAAAm/allomedia-shrug.webp

[olive wraith]

Bs or OF 51% buff

[dense elbow]

OF, cause baseline it stinky

[severe jolt]

Hey guys which build are people currently playing as furry in raids?

[dense elbow]

Probably Dev, maybe aug. Feral or bear. Hms, owl aint popular me thinks. You could go pandarian, vulpera or worgen I guess, if so Slayer Fury is pretty popular

[river viper]

[Javelineer] what a dog shit talent

[stoic echo]

are you supposed to ignore rage cap

oder still rampage >115 asap

[smoky vale]

what is oder

but i think its ignore rage

since bt bb and cb are too strong according to that apl

[stoic echo]

just slayer fury ST on the prepatch guide

cause it feels really weird to ignore the rage cap

[static loom]

You still press Ramp at high rage

That's just a quick throwtogether to have something for the 1½ weeks this will matter

[stoic echo]

all g, that's why I'm asking ty

is it higher prio than crushing blow / bloodbath tho? idk how important it is to maximise that during reck

[static loom]

In esssence, you'll want to use Rampage in such a way that you don't delay BB, nor waste any SD procs

CB is just something you press, when no other button is available

And outside of Reck, it's basically the same, but you also prio Rend and WT over RB

[stoic echo]

tyvm , I figured, just wanted to make sure I didn't get anything wrong

[static loom]

Happy to be of service!

[stoic echo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-leaf-vibes-vibing-sleeping-cat-gif-17297041570420202318

[smoky vale]

hi sarri

[static loom]

👋

[edgy widget]

remember that prepatch doesn't value Rampage the way L90 does

at L90 using Rampage at high rage is more important to trigger the Apex (and Rampage itself deals much more damage)

[stoic echo]

Well I'd like to ask more things but tbh there's probably still another balance cycle coming which can change everything so I'll just wait with that stuff

[edgy widget]

prepatch is only relevant for another 2 weeks anyway

[nova gorge]

where is the uh, fury midnight possible mythic plus talent tree? I cannot see it sadly </3 I'm so dumb tryna navigate wowhead

[winter shoal]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/talent-builds-pve-dps#mythic-talent-build

if you mean for beta, idk go to #1423009037808570418

[nova gorge]

Thank you! I did not :P

[zenith shale]

first slayer run o.O

[frank dawn]

KLINGENSTURM

Love it

[tardy matrix]

Hello everyone, new to WoW and I've been bouncing around leveling a few classes to 80 to find my "main" and I'm thinking I may just be locking in on Warrior.
With that said, are the wowhead guides the best place to find information for prepatch at the moment? I see a lot of stuff on YouTube and what not for Midnight, but I'm trying to refine the ungabunga a little bit still on prepatch.

[olive wraith]

Yes wowhead is solid

[static loom]

Frankly, the available info for pre-patch is sparse, as most efforts have been spent for the actual expansion, seeing as how it will come in less than 2 weeks.
With that said, Wowhead is what I'd always say is the go to for any of your warrior guide needs

[tardy matrix]

Thank you both, I appreciate the answers. I kind of figured that was the case, but also figured it couldn't hurt to ask either.

[smoky vale]

do you listen to polaris

or is that a coincidence

[tardy matrix]

Yes, that's where the name is from. Not the 4-wheeler company or whatever lol

[smoky vale]

goat

@dense elbow this guy is your father

noob

i wanna listen to crooked path now

[tardy matrix]

I'm a little bit of a basic bitch in saying dissipate is my favorite track but it is what it is

But Aussie metal bands usually go crazy. Polaris, Parkway Drive, Thy Art is Murder, Northlane 🥰

[smoky vale]

imma be honest i can barely remember their latest album

[tardy matrix]

Ya dissipate and nightmare are the biggest tracks off their newest album ha

[brittle crow]

stranger danger

who is this orange

[static loom]

The one that does the work in the background, and only sometimes comes out to post for a few hours

[tall ruin]

🫡

[smoky vale]

🐐

[olive wraith]

Can’t believe they also shot arms

What is happening

[plush maple]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/massive-class-tuning-incoming-on-february-17th-reset-for-midnight-pre-patch-380383?utm_source=discord-webhook

[olive wraith]

Well I guess everyone got nerfed

[fair cave]

damn that inc 100% dmg aura buff might not be enough x)

[olive wraith]

Our nerf was one of the least harmful

[static loom]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[olive wraith]

Like we still have SD reaps

Which is huge

[fair cave]

tbf, thats all we have

https://tenor.com/view/no-stop-pleading-begging-please-gif-17517986

[olive wraith]

Not really?

Bs does decent as does of

And rend seems to actually be contributing despite it being a stupid addition

Also. 5% proc chance reduction isn’t super bad

Arms got taken outback

[chrome relic]

was arms even good

what're we doing

that spec is homeless

[olive wraith]

No

Arms def didn’t deserve that

[fair cave]

Arms was top dog, deserved nerf for sure

[spring fox]

I was really hoping raging blow would get a buff out of the gutter. It being so low priority after the nerf feels bad

[olive wraith]

Ya I was expecting some rb love

[heady cobalt]

Or fix the TB ordeal

[fair cave]

Im sure the rb nerf was intended for bt be the overall prio on both specs.

[spring fox]

I would have taken a small buff to fix the rotation plus the nerf we got to keep dps around the same

[olive wraith]

?

[olive wraith]

Ya but 20% appears to be too much. Rb is below wrecking throw

They could have given it a small buff to just place it higher than wrecking

[spring fox]

Exactly

[echo rapids]

I cant believe arms coped real nerfs and fury barely got touched

[sharp oracle]

still loving my fury main. have been debating trying something new for midnight. some nights the pain of solo que M+ as a warrior is rough

[olive wraith]

Pugging is hard for any dps

[sharp oracle]

true

[pure echo]

Holy shit I’m starting to feel like they’re using AI for tuning. Some classes are getting the most drastic tuning changes week to week and this stuff should’ve been done long before 2 weeks to the expansion.

It’s like they’re not even testing it, just trying stuff for fun on live builds.

[olive wraith]

Meh, balance is a constant thing

They nerfed a lot of outliers

[pure echo]

Mage just doesn’t make sense. They keep changing the play styles and i’m guessing talents taken from patch to patch it seems.

Frost specifically. Playing my mage is weird they like nuked most of what made frost mage cool

[smoky vale]

@vital jewel im going to disney tomorrow

pull up

or sunday

[charred panther]

What’s the CD looking like for OF with the 4pce in keys?

seems like it’d be cut in half

[vital jewel]

i dont live anywhere near disney

[olive wraith]

Bro didn’t even specify which Disney

[smoky vale]

he knows which one

im taking a bus tomorrow morning

[rancid zenith]

So Slayer was overperforming, warr dps is over performing ? What are they taking at the headquarters to come to a conclusion like that...

[indigo arch]

The same stuff that caused them to dartboard arms nerfs

https://i.imgflip.com/a2hzx9.gif

[olive wraith]

Friend it’s not a super big nerf. This isn’t doom worthy

[indigo arch]

Also yea, one reap nerf is whatever

[rancid zenith]

It's not that it's something, one move they made was a nerf.

[indigo arch]

Coulda been flat nerf to spec aura or some shit

[olive wraith]

They nerfed majority of the specs

Ours was super minor in comparison

[dapper goblet]

you guys know xan is why you were nerfed

[rancid zenith]

So you're saying "be thankful that they didn't shit on us completely" ? xD

[indigo arch]

Considering their usual tuning? Yes.

[olive wraith]

I wonder what the breakdown is for reap procs

Bt vs sd

[indigo arch]

They randomly slapped arms, us getting a reap nerf was light.

[olive wraith]

Logs don’t indicate how it was procd I assume

[indigo arch]

They could have made thunderblast an unironic cancelaura

[wind token]

Imagine dooming over 5%

[indigo arch]

Yea it's literally nothing

[olive wraith]

It’s not even 5% damage

[digital fern]

Just make Bladestorm cd faster then please it lines up with Reck usually but bladestorm/reck then bladestorm on own then line up with reck again would be fun

[indigo arch]

All the top specs got hosed

[drowsy heron]

Why are they nerfing us?

[wind token]

Because blizzard personally hates you and the class you play

[olive wraith]

Everyone got nerfed. Ours is minor in comparison

[tardy matrix]

Could be BM hunters and get fucked back to back

[rancid zenith]

We didn't need any intervention tbh, considering all the other moves on the other overperforming classes. When they try to min-max the balance like that, they tend to screw it up unexpectedly.

[drowsy heron]

Not everyone, saw feral got buffed

[rancid zenith]

balance is also buffed.

[olive wraith]

My bad wrong word choice. Most specs got nerfed

[wind token]

The tiniest nerf “OMG WHY BLIZZ NERF US WTF OMG”

[rancid zenith]

lol ret got buffed too ^^

[olive wraith]

Should I list all the nerfed classes?

[rancid zenith]

more like we're already at the bottom, why push us more.

[wind token]

Is that even true

[olive wraith]

We weren’t bottom

[cursive sierra]

as it should be

[digital fern]

How to not be upset don’t play till boost their no dealing with nerfs and buffs emotional swings

[torpid sail]

at least this guy gets it

[digital fern]

Only do weekly log off

[brittle mirage]

With respect to arms, this is getting shared

[torpid sail]

they nerfed it make my personal experience worse

[tardy matrix]

Everything I saw had warrior at least average, and in most cases, slightly above.
Seemed to be in a good spot to me judging from that.

Arms nerf was uncalled for though

[indigo arch]

Fury is certainly not bottom

[brittle mirage]

And given that critcake is a very experienced warrior and this was before the nerfs, people aren't optimistic

[olive wraith]

Ya arms got random nerfs

[indigo arch]

Def wasn't in s3 for sure

[digital fern]

Warr is to masculine has to be mid cause HR gets mad

[rancid zenith]

I don't think we were above average from my PoV, but they're killing arms dead for sure.

[olive wraith]

But we legit were mid or above mid

[wind token]

If you are talking about pre patch then the point is mute

[brittle mirage]

Metzen said he doesn't like the war part of the Warcraft name so we will suffer for that 😔

[tardy matrix]

I'm going off peoples judgement that are far smarter than I am in regards to the game as a whole. I don't have the experience to back anything up anecdotally.

[rancid zenith]

moot ? yeah, also upsetting.

[torpid sail]

is why dev is good rn, scaley representation

[digital fern]

Metzen seems like he is a cross dresser no offence but that’s the vibe I get

[olive wraith]

They got nerfed

[olive wraith]

What does that even mean

[torpid sail]

he's not the same man who drew the WC2 manual

[rancid zenith]

This is the guy who yelled wraagggrrrrrhhhh every blizzcon to show the war in warcraft ^^

[wind token]

True where is the war in warrior….🥀

[digital fern]

Reminds me off American pie the guy stifller has a dance off with

[warm crag]

@young swan can you explain this nerf in terms of fyralath dps

[rancid zenith]

This math here is weird to me, maybe something lost in the translation for me I don't know.

talking about the per level and then the resulting parts.

I wanna know what to expect if they ever do this to fury ^^

[olive wraith]

Ya no clue

All the healers got something similar iirc

[rancid zenith]

if you add 58 and 32 it's 90 but that's cuckoo crazy irrelevant math 😄

[restive ledge]

Are the nerfs based on the Midnight data or the Pre-patch? Because the former makes more sense than the latter.

[rancid zenith]

These are coming to prepatch next tue/wed, affecting midnight release as well.

[warm crag]

theres no point in trying to read logic into these nerfs

[olive wraith]

My guess is they have midnight in mind but idk for sure

Like the healer damage buffs lead me to that assumption

[restive ledge]

I guess you are right. It just does not make any sense when there are classes that have so much burst and stronger rotation right now.

[warm crag]

its prepatch so no point in caring anyways

[olive wraith]

Well burst doesn’t mean anything

[restive ledge]

yeah, right.

[warm crag]

if we're too weak or too strong it will be adressed on raid week latest

[olive wraith]

Burst is just a damage profile

[restive ledge]

That's true.

[smoky vale]

guten tag

[maiden valley]

from wowhead, what is the bullet point trying to say? thunderclapping before avatar doesn't ensure a thunder blast will not be unenraged

[sullen dove]

cluegi

[maiden valley]

hmm. so do you think this opener is incorrect?

i dont know how to do a custom apl lol

[undone flower]

Most likely 1% more dmg from the previous lvl / like m+ scaling being incrementals 7% up to +10, then 10%

But the % you see in a key is random number jumps, bc it is from the previous

[rancid zenith]

The math behind seems weird, it only leads to confusion. Because they're leaving stuff out when they're giving information.

[silk wharf]

Avatar refreshes the cooldown of clap and generates 2 charges of blast. So you might as well just open with it to get the improved whirlwind buff up.

[fringe vale]

Whats the problem if he was? Does it affects your personal life in any way or form?

[rancid zenith]

actually you can charge>TC>Reck+Ava+OF Macro>TB>BB>TB>Ramp>TC

[olive wraith]

His question was more about the bullet point underneath

[rancid zenith]

because of Odyn's Fury step, the the thunder blast you press next is enraged, that's what that means.

[silk wharf]

yes, I just said what is in the bullet point with slightly different words. That is what it means.

[olive wraith]

Right but that has nothing to do with being enraged

Just seems like a optimization that wasn’t updated

[silk wharf]

Huh, are we looking at the same thing? It literally has Odyns, which grants enrage right there. Are we confusing thunder blast with lightning strike?

[olive wraith]

Can you explain how the aspect of clapping before avatar ensures tb isn’t sent unenraged

[silk wharf]

Because you don't have thunder blast yet to send...

[rancid zenith]

That text is a bit weird, that's the guy's point. We understand from the rotational schema, but the text doesn't explain it enough for a newbie guy.

[olive wraith]

You do that optimization for a clap reset

It has nothing to do with enrage

Since odyns now enrages you and you cast it after avatar

[modest condor]

tbh i dont really see the point of the initial clap either

[maiden valley]

is initial clap even good without avatar buff?

[olive wraith]

It’s damage you can do while mid charge I suppose

[maiden valley]

yea that makes sesne

[olive wraith]

Plus rage gen

Which is pretty important heading into midnight

[modest condor]

but the screenshot says it's to apply the buff

i mean you dont need rage

if you follow that opener you're gonna be giga rage capped before you even get to your first rampage

[silk wharf]

That isn't what is being questioned. You cannot fire off a blast, enraged or not, on a fresh opener (which is what the picture is) because you do not have a charge available.
The picture clearly illustrates an enrage enabler before the first thunder blast you would have available/use.

Regardless of whether it's rotationally correct atm.

If you want to odyns with avatar up, and since it resets clap, you may as well clap before you avatar/odyns. More relevant as a catch all global as you begin an aoe pull.

Though, with the buff to clap, perhaps it's better to go something like Odyns -> clap(ava)blast -> etc since you can just send both clap variants in the same global.

[ashen geyser]

Sometimes I find evidence that blizzard devs don't actually play their game.

[maiden valley]

wdym "may as well"? its either less dps or more dps than going straight into ava/odyns

[silk wharf]

I mean, I don't know if it is or not. Do you? I am assuming the person who wrote the guide does. Though I did add an edit to that one sentence about it being a catch all global while initiating an aoe pull.
I am just parroting what the guide says, nothing more. I certainly don't know which order of operations gives the best 1% dps increase.
This is a single global here, only relevant if the pack dies before avatar runs out.

Frankly, I always open with ww/clap as I'm charging or walking in. Why would you not?

[olive wraith]

Why do you need to cast clap before avatar to prevent an important TB from being casted unenraged

[maiden valley]

No I don’t know either, and yes I also generally assume the guide writer does as well, but in this case the bullet point explaining the opener didn’t make any sense so now I am questioning it. I also agree it’s 1 global so not a huge optimization, but I still try to figure out what’s best and why. I appreciate the discussion

[silk wharf]

Because if you generated a charge, and used it, before being enraged it would be unenraged.

[olive wraith]

How do you generate a charge that won’t be unenraged in the opener

[silk wharf]

By misusing avatar

Which is what the bullet point is about

[olive wraith]

If you took out clap. In that picture what changes

[silk wharf]

You miss the initial clap pictured, whatever benefit that provides. Its damage when you may be out of range to hit everything with odyns and a rend tick on however many targets you graze.

[olive wraith]

Okay I agree. But that’s not what the text is insinuating

The text is saying to clap to get stacks of cleave

[hollow leaf]

Thunderclap essentially replaces whirlwind for thane as it grants you whirlwind stacks, if that's what you mean

[rancid zenith]

but since they'll also be getting those stacks with the first thunder blast they cast,

[olive wraith]

It does but that’s not what we’re talking about

[olive wraith]

This

[rancid zenith]

what good it does, is what they're questioning.

[olive wraith]

My guess is the text wasn’t updated so it’s a remnant of an older opening sequence

[hollow leaf]

@edgy widget

[edgy widget]

its vestigial, used to be you'd Charge + Clap -> CD + Rampage -> Blast
but now that OF enrages you (and has a high priority again, previously it was pretty low or not taken at all) you don't need the initial TC anymore

[olive wraith]

Ayyyyy I assumed correctly

[edgy widget]

I just made quick updates to put OF back in the prio and forgot to remove the no longer necessary Clap is all

[maiden valley]

Makes sense, thanks

[edgy widget]

cause prior to the 12.0.1 update, OF wasn't always talented so you needed to work in a BT or Ramp for the Enrage, which you wanted to cleave with the initial Clap

[rancid zenith]

We can macro all Reck+Ava+OF together into one button, do you think there would be downsides of using it that way ?

[hollow leaf]

not really, you used to want separate keybinds as well since avatar wasn't affected by AM

[edgy widget]

no real downside on the opener, but CDR will cause them to misalign mid-combat

[rancid zenith]

what about waiting for OF or R+A to align them together ? does waiting 1 to 3-4 seconds hurt dps ?

[edgy widget]

Fury doesn't generally like delaying CDs unless its for a big add pack, but while it may only be a few seconds right now, the L90 tier set is going to desync even more

[rancid zenith]

In short, it's fine now but it won't be when we're in Midnight S1

[edgy widget]

it would be fine enough right now, but later on would probably get funky yeah

[hollow leaf]

it'll still be fine for opener in s1

[rancid zenith]

I got that ^^

[edgy widget]

yeah but if you're gonna use separate buttons later, you might as well use them separate all the time

no reason to have extra binds you only use once per combat

[rancid zenith]

I only use OF seperately as an aoe button. For the exact reason we talked about (Midnight S1)
In TWW, I'm not using seperate buttons.

[rancid zenith]

I'm glad you answered, I was thinking would it be okay or was I missing a detail.

[sinful spoke]

Chat i havent played in like 3 months how is warrior looking for midnight? Both dps specs

[olive wraith]

As in arms and fury? Or slayer and thane

[sinful spoke]

Arms and fury

[olive wraith]

Arms is dead

[sinful spoke]

Thane 🤮

[olive wraith]

Fury is okay

[sinful spoke]

Is slayer fury alive

Or dead

[olive wraith]

For?

[sinful spoke]

M+ and raid

I dont like thane

[hollow leaf]

it's fine for st

[olive wraith]

M+ it’s a little behind thane

Raid it sounds like there’s a hand full of add fights so tbd

[sinful spoke]

A little is good enough for me as long as its not like 5-10% dps behind

[olive wraith]

I mean it might be 5% behind idk the actual numbers

[sinful spoke]

[olive wraith]

It’s got better st/prio so just group with people that do better aoe

[hollow leaf]

season 1 isn't going to start for a while after midnight release anyways

there's tons of time for more tunings

dw too much about the difference between the two right now

regardless of where it's at it's not really gonna matter for viability

[rancid zenith]

now you weave Rend into your rotation ^^ It's an AoE dot button now ^^

[sinful spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

YUCK!

[undone flower]

And as thane you have the previous prot talent where you have tc every other gcd, gameplay became fun (at least for me)

[olive wraith]

And rb is a really low prio filler

[sinful spoke]

Wtf

[smoky nacelle]

Fill with BT for reap what you sow

[olive wraith]

Bt isn’t filler you press it on cd

[rancid zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/im-done-gif-11149008085157041097

[rancid zenith]

you atm 😄

[foggy pine]

Hello guys I was using a mouse for all my binding and I decided to play on keyboard now , what are the bind you use ?

[hollow leaf]

1-5, majority of keybinds around wasd, rest are modifier keys

some include wasd keys with modifiers

try to just feel out which keys you can comfortably reach from wasd and practice on a dummy to find what feels natural for you

[foggy pine]

I started to try that but my brain is lagging lol I wonder how many time I will need to be good. Also I forget to ask but I'd like to know if there is a trick to use many bind without macro but still being fast, I saw that some people don't use macro for reck/avatar/trink how it's possible to use like 3 binds for that and be super fast to not lose time.

[cobalt kernel]

1-5 q e m4 m5 t z x g + shift/alt for all, you need to find binds that work for you and are comfortable

[olive wraith]

1-5
Shift 1-5
And some keys around wasd

[glossy lichen]

scroll binds are bis imo

[drowsy glen]

hi, do we prioritize bloodthirst over raging blow with the current thane build now?

[sullen dove]

ya

[crude yew]

We prioritize BT over raging all the time, regardless of hero talent

BT's just that good/that buffed

[rigid marlin]

This is what I use as well

[odd cipher]

1-5 a d r t f g x c v f1 f2 f3 shift1-3 ctrl 1-3 shiftR shiftF shiftG

+2 buttons on mouse

[hollow leaf]

If I remember correctly it took me maybe a week of playing or so until I got used to it?

it's worth it though I'd never go back to a mouse

[honest trail]

Next week nerf

Why

[modern ingot]

Wow more unnecessary nerfs, Blizz rly wants to crush all the desire to play this class for everyone.

[pearl sequoia]

they know warrior players are 5% more skilled than every other class player

[hollow leaf]

literally an irrelevant nerf

it's like less than 2%

[modern ingot]

If it's irrelevant, why did they do it ?

[hollow leaf]

Idk why did they nerf arms even more when it was already unplayable

why did they nerf udk by like 20%

there's way way worse nerfs than we got

[modern ingot]

Because they have no clue what theyre doing

[hollow leaf]

no reason to complain about a nerf that does absolutely nothing when other specs were nuked from orbit

[fading sky]

This is prob fine

35% is deffo to high

[fading sky]

Because uh was far ahead

[heavy dock]

Change midnight to midnerf

My guess is with they shitty squish they are struggling to get to the numbers they wanted

So they are tuning stuff

[rustic geyser]

well, bether now then in the midle of raid content

[heavy dock]

Oh its gonna happen then as well dont worry

[regal coral]

is fury alive or?

[hollow leaf]

never died

[rustic geyser]

yes fury is alive in high A tier

[hollow leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-squidward-eye-twitch-twitching-gif-4770864

[pearl sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-tired-exhausted-eyes-no-sleep-gif-17653913

[dense elbow]

I think the % is fine, reap dam is just too high.

If you reduce % you just create bigger variance, and that shit sucks waffle musk

[smoky vale]

shut

[fading sky]

Burst

[olive jetty]

hey guys, am i too dumb to copy and paste or is the link and export broken

[fading sky]

Broken

Season 3

Bro

[olive jetty]

anyone has the build for me

[compact knot]

i believe its on wowhead

[olive jetty]

read like its updated

[fading sky]

Its prepatch

[dense elbow]

Should be in the pins

[compact knot]

also yeah check the prepatch version

[compact knot]

yeah its on wowhead

[olive jetty]

hm, i guess its too early. where can i find prepatch slayer m+

[dense elbow]

Reduce it to 1%, buff dam 350%, pray for the god RNG or sink

"Burst"

[compact knot]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/overview-pve-dps

click talent builds

[olive jetty]

ty

getting a coffee and then try again

the idea is like s3, bloodthirst if nothing else if up and mash this raging blows+rampage?

[dense elbow]

Nop, now it is BT on CD, and rb when nothing else is ready

[olive jetty]

Ok so same as thane

[flat river]

phew when i saw nerfs i thought fury was gone

thankfully just a minor nerf

[indigo arch]

Don't worry, they nerfed the real outlier, arms.

[calm dock]

am i going crazy or are the icy veins talents reccomending taking avatar over bladestorm dispite the slayer talents not working without bladestorm am i missing smth?

[smoky vale]

avatar sims higher than bladestorm only in single target

even with the loss of hero talents without bladestorm

[calm dock]

man thats crazy

fair enough

[late lava]

from Discord locked to 10, how big are the changes

[smoky vale]

what

rephrase that question bud

@warm crag what is blud cooking

[late lava]

can someone provide this man the lore

[flat river]

@smoky vale doesn't have elite ball knowledge

[warm crag]

yeah its pretty obvious

[sharp oracle]

Can definitely feel my dmg fell off a bit. The group I run with often I went from beating all last week to now sweating to keep up

[potent thicket]

Damn... More nerfs

[brittle crow]

fury is over party

[potent thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1161382881780846714/1273773461403340902/attachment-14.gif

[uneven furnace]

3 min test on ST Dummy.
I'm not sure 100% I did the "perfect" rotation tho.

[sharp oracle]

So back to slayer it seems?
MT felt weak last night in keys.

[indigo arch]

Thane is still better than slayer by a mile atm in keys

It feels weak because it's prepatch and you have overtuned bullshit like arcane/unholy etc

[sharp oracle]

Yeah 2 buddies I ran with one on a warlock and one arcane mage and they were staying just ahead of me all night

[indigo arch]

Yea you're not outdpsing those

[dense elbow]

Sure you do, just sabotage them

[honest trail]

Thane definitely better than Slayer in keys

But it feels weak compared to many other specs

[distant geyser]

ok i havent played since they removed all the addons
since weakauras are gone do we have to use the default blizz frames for tracking fury and stuff

[smoky vale]

there are a bunch of addons that can move and customize the blizz cdm

but its just all worse weakauras

can probably find inspiration in #ui-addons-manager

[plush zephyr]

love how most players went from having one WA doing everything to having 4-5 convoluted add ons lol

[chrome night]

as a new player to fury

what do i need to keep track of?

bloodlust, ww stacks and?

[vale solar]

enrage

[chrome night]

enrage, not bl

my bad

bad with names

[vale solar]

dont ever part ways with it

keep it close at all times

[dreamy sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-on-robin-james-hold-it-in-hold-it-tight-grab-on-gif-25325749

[olive wraith]

Avatar is probably semi important to track on thane

[inland flame]

Storm Surge makes Clap more important inside Ava so you'd want to know when it's up rite

[candid sorrel]

I mean you just clap on cd anyways

[inland flame]

Not on ST tho right, and the obv Ramp to enrage etc

Clap is only better than BT RB inside Ava I thought

Mite b wrong

[candid sorrel]

Ava lines up with reck so bloodthirst (bloodbath?) Will be better, I dunno about crushing blow though

[mossy fox]

yeah 4-5 xd

[inland flame]

Was more thinking about the procs off of bolts

[modest condor]

[brittle crow]

i personally just have 1 now

well, 2 if you count cdm centered

cdm centered + sensei resource bar is good enough for my needs imo dont feel like i need any more than that

dont need any major ui mods, dont need dbm, dont need to track anything the base ui doesnt let me track as far as i know

just zug the boss

[candid sorrel]

^

[olive wraith]

Clap gains prio in st while in avatar. Would be like the one reason you’d want to know

[brittle crow]

i had a jimmy neutron brain blast when i was sleeping the other day abt using excess action bars to position abilities where i want them around my screen

like separating my defensives from my kicks from my mobility, instead of having them all lumped in the utility bar

idk if it'll work, but ill try it today

this feels like smth a ffxiv player would do

[plush zephyr]

[inland flame]

gotta check out senseis I still need a bar that can show energy rage and ap in one place for my druid

[smoky vale]

critcake tenki no ko check

[inland flame]

couldn't figure it out with ArcUI but i might just be stupid

[plush zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/frankly-thats-a-skill-issue-hazzikostas-ion-ion-hazzikostas-skill-issue-gif-21595688

^joking lmfao

[brittle crow]

senseis is good

u have primary and secondary and can size and move them independantly

all in edit mode

no shit ass stinky ui that half of these vibe coded addons use

[honest trail]

We all agree that our dmg on live is way lower than last week right?

I had some days off

[olive wraith]

It’s slightly lower yes

Talent restriction and slight nerf

[honest trail]

I feel so bad now

[smoky vale]

its not like it matters anyway

its prepatch

[honest trail]

I know

am still doing some 20+

but now I do no dmg xD

[olive wraith]

No dmg seems like an overreaction

[smoky vale]

you should try turning off details and just hitting

[honest trail]

I guess I play with Mages, Locks, Survival & Devoureurs mostly

😄

[fringe vale]

Well it feels like -5k~-10k from before the latest update

My main issue isnt the dmg

Is pressing bt

Im so used to just chug rb’s

Now everything buffs bt and you use bt for the rapt thing

[olive wraith]

Been playing slayer ?

[fringe vale]

Well yes

[olive wraith]

You don’t like sd reaps?

Slayer was buffed imo with this week

[fringe vale]

Ye they fine its not thr i like or don’t like something

Im wired to pop rb’s as soon as i see a charge

[olive wraith]

Rotations change

[warm crag]

ye its pretty common for rb/bt prio to swap every few patches

[fringe vale]

Yes ik im not complaining or saying its bad

Its just new

And i gotta adpty

haven’t played enough since prepatch launch, just been farming mythic mounts for all the guildies

And the 3 raids get cleared in 1-2h of raid

So 1 day

Been spamming overwatch like crazy, last update is fun af

[olive wraith]

I mean slayer still shouldn’t be doing much less

[fringe vale]

Its not that much less

But im aware i do make mistakes because

I fall into old habits of automatized brain

And do the rb rotation instead of the bt one

Because i go autopilot sometimes

[honest trail]

Been doing some sims & tests & Bloodbath seems to be very high prio, & we can stack its bleed about 5 times during Reck if played well

[fringe vale]

Yes, it feels odd to prio bb instead of ramp

But thats the way now

[honest trail]

Prob not when Apex comes in

[fringe vale]

Oh surely

But for now

It is

[olive wraith]

Yes bt is very strong relatively

[fringe vale]

Still feels weird to not ramp

Or only ramp if bb on cd and rage overcapped

[olive wraith]

That’s kinda been how we played ramp all tww

[fringe vale]

But with rb

The thing is u wanted to buff ramp

With rb’s

[olive wraith]

That’s not the only reason you’d pressed rb

Rb had too much power in tww

[fringe vale]

But in the big scheme of things, doing that 1 extra or not rb, didn’t do a big dif at the end

[honest trail]

Oh I like that we have different prio for:

Avatar+Reck
Avatar alone
Outside of Avatar
Exec phase

it's always different, it's nice

[fringe vale]

I really really like that odin’s is back

Although i feel it needs to do more dmg imo

[honest trail]

& doing 5 BB or 4 BB during Reck is a small min max but it's one

To play with

So it's fun

[olive wraith]

Tbf that’s a thane thing

[honest trail]

yeah I'm talking M+

[olive wraith]

You can play slayer in m+

Just wanted to clarify

[honest trail]

In theory yes

But it's way lower dmg

[fringe vale]

Wym in theory

U can litera play it

[honest trail]

But it's bad

[fringe vale]

Its prepatch

[olive wraith]

It’s not though

It’s pretty close to thane

[fringe vale]

Who cares ure not going to any mdi soon

[sullen dove]

its like barely worse lol

thane just got giga nerfed

tb is dogshit

[honest trail]

You don't need & try to convince me, I wish I'd play only Slayer

[olive wraith]

Good news

You can

[honest trail]

I'll prob play it when we get full talents

But atm it's bad

[radiant plank]

Tru colossus owns it even harder now

[sullen dove]

real

[fringe vale]

Next season might be another prot season tbh

[olive wraith]

It’s really not

Bs buff did a lot

Sd reaps did a lot

[sullen dove]

idk where this anti slayer propaganda came out from lol its def way better now than it was in first prepatch with omega reliable reaps now

[honest trail]

For sure it is

[sullen dove]

and tb got killed to be worse than base tclap

poggers

[honest trail]

i'm doing back & forth Slayer & Thane keys

& Slayer seems just bad at the moment

[radiant plank]

Slurry prolly the play after the 17th

[olive wraith]

Slayer isn’t bad though lol

Idk what you’re talking about friend

[fringe vale]

People always want to meta brain something that does actual peanuts more of a metric, id say even slayer for some dungeons is even better and more friendly considering your cds are kinda shorter and can send almost every pack

[olive wraith]

Which cds?

[honest trail]

If you think I'm a meta player, you really don't know me

xd

[olive wraith]

Cause avatar is on AM now

[fringe vale]

Reck and bs?

[sullen dove]

isnt bs not on am cuz they are braindead

or is it still

[olive wraith]

Rek has same cd for thane

Bs isn’t on am

[sullen dove]

skull emoji

[leaden marsh]

can u still play with 1h nowadays?

[olive wraith]

No

Well

[fringe vale]

U can mog them now tho

[sullen dove]

you can mog 1handers now

[olive wraith]

You can but it’s even worse now without the talent

[sullen dove]

but not as the actual item

[leaden marsh]

got a fury with abysallmaw dmg in my key, wears two 1h

[sullen dove]

yea thats not ideal

bro thinks its classic

[olive wraith]

Anyways in general you’d pick slayer for higher st/prio dmg

[honest trail]

Going Cyclone or Brutal Finish?

Since we want the Reap Talents

[radiant plank]

go cc

[olive wraith]

Ye, brutal finish kinda deadge until apex I think

[honest trail]

Really wanna play RR too but eh

Fair

[vapid dagger]

Hate those slayer dmg on MM 🙁

Spec so fun with proc