fury

[north cargo]

So with the “new” slayer build we prio BT over RB again?

[sudden tusk]

yeah

35% chance to proc reap it does crazy dam

also bt buffed a crazy amount

[north cargo]

Ok thanks

[fallow leaf]

Guys reaper storm is proc from bt right?

[faint whale]

And SD

[sharp epoch]

are we now "stuck" with this limited talent tree until midnight? if so do we still play M+ and what build do we use?

[potent thicket]

m+ slayer?

[ruby loom]

Are we playing Bladestorm over Avatar single target now?

[light glen]

I am confused by this too I see they have us playing bladestorm but the talent tree says avatar?

[pearl sequoia]

avatar for pure ST

but bladestorm for some AoE

if u wanna be safe just go avatar for most scenarios in pre-patch

[hollow bloom]

I love clapping cheeks

[fiery hare]

Ejacular, best ability

[warm crag]

Holy Atronar damage

[junior oyster]

I love golpin de relampagos

[olive jetty]

Go arms for the full experience

[hollow bloom]

I love how everytime i send a screenshot people is having fun reading the names

[plush maple]

Blizz better not be flip flopping between pressing BT or RB on cooldown because it’s annoying retraining muscle memory

[pearl sequoia]

you make me sick

[olive jetty]

😅 🧂

[pearl sequoia]

disguting arms warrior

pukey

[olive jetty]

I love my carpal tunnel

[pearl sequoia]

its the oppsoite no? i heard theres nothing to press

rage starved spec

[olive jetty]

I must agree, found my self a bit starved even as fury

From time to time

[last belfry]

Guys, i have a doubt now, we going slayer or still thane after this last update? at m+

[pearl sequoia]

thane for better aoe overall or slayer for better st in m+, depends on what you need

[last belfry]

i see, ty

[olive jetty]

Do you have a percentage ? How much St gain is slayer and how much aoe loss

[pearl sequoia]

no i don't know that would be a @archi question but that's the general consensus

[short jungle]

can we switch for bladestorm or still play avatar? in m+

[heavy dock]

nice ejacular damage

[hollow bloom]

By ejacular i guess you mean execute?

[heavy dock]

sure

[hollow bloom]

I guess you can imagine the thunder strike from execute like it

[coarse nest]

Ejecutar owns

[heavy dock]

it just sounds funny i had to say it

[fallow otter]

Hey guys, just double-checking the priority after the patch. Is BT > RB now?

[rancid crag]

Rb you can just unbind

[fallow otter]

oh no~

[hardy vault]

When reckleness, just spam bb, cb, execute and overcap rage thats right ?

[heavy dock]

our current balancing seems suspicious indeed

[wind charm]

I have the feeling i lost a lot of dmg over 2 days now in m+ doungens

[violet condor]

does anyone know when the keystone hero titles are awarded?

[glad coyote]

the .01%?

they were already giving out when the season ended if thats what your talking about

[rare garnet]

Part of me wants to try and learn arms. The other part of me is a sane and rational person.

[coarse nest]

Arms the intellectual spec

[violet condor]

are you sure? cause im well over cutoff and dont have it

[rare garnet]

Looks like you got disqualified. RIP.

[rare garnet]

I mean it kinda must be I don’t understand their rotation at all.

[coarse nest]

[rancid crag]

This graph look ok to you guys ?

[dense elbow]

Looks kinda scuffed to me, like everything is in a weird sideways angle and kinda out of focus

[rancid crag]

Thats not a screenshot disregard technicalities

Im talking about the dmg spread ?

Im trying to figure out slayer

[dense elbow]

Hard to say without context, is that one big pull?

[rancid crag]

Yes its a big pull

[dense elbow]

guess it looks ok ish?

[rancid crag]

Its first pull on floodgate

[dense elbow]

I would wait till after you done the whole key, and base it more on that

[rancid crag]

But dmg feels really low

Yeah we wiped so

[dense elbow]

Go again

And ye, our dam as slayer is pretty meh atm

[rancid crag]

Trying to get a group atm

But so is mt its even worse here in flood

[dense elbow]

Try Thane tho, heard rumors it pumps

[rancid crag]

Naa

Its cheeks

[dense elbow]

Oh really?

[rancid crag]

Or I suck at the game

[dense elbow]

Well, go pwarrior then, big AoE dam

[rancid crag]

Have to figure out slayer seems thats the way

[dense elbow]

Not much to figure out tho, keep up rend, press BT and Sudden Death on CD, always be enraged

[coarse nest]

Pretty sure thane cranks after 12.0.1

[rancid crag]

Well yeah but what else do you press

Rend>ww or other way around

Rb is done for

Maybe in st if we get to the boss

[dense elbow]

I believe in ya

next time ya will see the boss

I wont judge anything personally on a one pull thing tho

[rancid crag]

If i get a heal first that is

Yes i will send overalls if we finish a key

[coarse nest]

Now we rb when we can’t BT or 115> rage ramp

[rancid crag]

Isnt it better to just whirlwind in aoe situations

Or use rend cause it also deals dmg and seems uncapped ?

[coarse nest]

Apply rend in aoe ye

[dense elbow]

depends on if you got rage to keep enrage going

Rend doesnt grant rage, keep that in mind, ww does

[rancid crag]

Yeah you are right but as a filler otherwise it is just bt and ww spam

[dense elbow]

I miss RB-BT prio tho, I liked reacting to RB reseting itself

[rancid crag]

Rb for reap the storm was the best

[dense elbow]

That was the worst thing ever, if you ask me

but meh

[rancid crag]

Ive only been playing now since s1 tww but thats the best warr felt to me

[dense elbow]

We like what we like

cant argue with that

[coarse nest]

Quick short term fun but it got real stale fast for me

[rancid crag]

True

[jade cipher]

from diffrent iterations of fury i have played in past years. season 3 df with double odyns fury was best for me

[rancid crag]

Ive heard others say that as well

[coarse nest]

For fury I think I’m on bored with that double odyns heroic week was fun

Easy to play wicked high burst and high tuning

[jade cipher]

i dont mind slam. some people did. but overall it was very nice experience.

[coarse nest]

Solid week of gameplay

[dense elbow]

I really enjoyed the offshoot builds of TWWs1-s2, Slayer, that was all about execute and cleave value, with your AoE bound mainly into the CDs.

I find CD AoE being fun, while this "always Reap" situation to be dreafully boring

[rancid crag]

To each his own, I didn’t touch slayer at all s2

I really like thunder blasting but now it doesn’t deal any dmg

[dense elbow]

Shame, there was purity in living on em execute procs

[jade cipher]

Back in season 3 df. you were heavily target capped but odyns fury and roar carried you when it came to padding. and under 35% warrior could solo bosses

[rare garnet]

Not really because not thane. I’m clapilled

[coarse nest]

The best part about s3 DF was having cooldowns for every single pack in the dungeon

Good value to bring to a group

[jade cipher]

also in some dungeons i would start as arms and finish as fury

good times

[coarse nest]

LOL the forbidden tech.. dungeon teleport

[jade cipher]

my pov was mostly from m+. and it didnt hurt being a warrior. sure the main meta was still mage and shit, but warriors and outlaw rouges were always breathing on their neck

and reflect in some dungeons was straight up busted, like throne of tides

[dense elbow]

I dont even remember, wasnt warrior that down bad that we had multiple always title ppl just give up?

[jade cipher]

doubt it

[dense elbow]

Pretty sure even crit almost gave up that period, only hanging on by a leaf

[coarse nest]

Isn’t that the season Critcake played fire mage

[jade cipher]

monk as your healer, druid as your tank with 2 outlaw rouges

good times

the season critcake played mage there was mists in the rotation i think, cant be that season

[dense elbow]

I just seem to remember warrior was 10-20% behind the pack

it was pretty grim

[jade cipher]

not my experience, season 3 df warrior was top boss damage and top prio damage

[coarse nest]

Yeah that’s what I remember

[jade cipher]

low cd burst also came in handy in many dungeons

[dense elbow]

All I remember is that it was "ok" in dungs, and really good on certain raid fights

killing spears and what not

[jade cipher]

i vividly rememmber carrying 28 everbloom on my back because hardest part was last 2 bosses, i used taunt reflect on 3rd boss and i could use cooldowns both on main boss and tree. not many classes could do that

i think warriors also did highest keys idk. with double outlaw rouge

[mossy fox]

s3 df fury was garbage in high keys

you had your burst and then negative damage

[coarse nest]

Linc just rolled over in his slumber

[mossy fox]

i played arms that season as soon it got some big buffs

[dense elbow]

DFs3 Fury was fun tho, for what it was - just not very well tuned for M+

[shadow maple]

rent is worth to press on st?¿

[dense elbow]

Yes, but not really

it is a difference of about 0.5%

feel free to ignore it

[jade cipher]

sometimes you dont have anything to press. rend initial damage is even higher than whirlwind in full St talents right now

i think both rend and wrecking throw are good damage increases rn

[dense elbow]

The once every five min scenario :v

[jade cipher]

WIth raging blow build of last week we wouldnt even have high uptime bloodborne, now we do

rend is good button to learn to use on fury, specially now that is aoe by itself

[dense elbow]

Noone will say it aint worth it on AoE, me believes

It is just a button that doesnt do anything to make Fury play more fun

it is just a chore button

pretty bad design, if ya ask me

[upbeat reef]

good afternoon guys

I'm looking to hop back into the game after a while (shadowlands broke me) and I was wondering, how is fury doing for the next expansion?

[dense elbow]

Overall, just fine, not especially great and not especially bad. If you enjoy the gameplay, then ya will be able to do so through all the content barriers that you will come accross

It is far better than it was in SLs1 for sure

[junior oyster]

Which, frankly, is just where I like it lol

[dense elbow]

have no fear

[upbeat reef]

well it's always nice to be in the mid, no nerf hammer

[dense elbow]

Oh dont worry, even when mid we get nerfed

blizz always find a way to nerf us

[upbeat reef]

well I guess I'll just have to roll with the punches 😆

[dense elbow]

it do be the way

[upbeat reef]

any guide recommandations for talents and all that?

[rancid crag]

Wowhead

[dense elbow]

^ yep - then play around with it a bit, dont be afraid to try alternative builds

[open mountain]

u can use icyveins too, same guide writer

But the guides still differ. I think Icy Veins, for example, doesn't have a rend for Slayer yet...

[rancid crag]

I wish they would just put rend in whirlwind

[dense elbow]

Same, I dont mind that they force the bleed down our throat to make our dam profile flat and more valuable on mass AoE

I just dislike the empty button press that it is

it just applies the bleed, no rage and just feels like it slows things down

[upbeat reef]

is there a big dps loss to take bladestorm over avatar?

[dense elbow]

On ST? Not really, think it was 1-2%?

[upbeat reef]

kinda wanna play bladestorm

but not troll

[dense elbow]

you wont troll, and dont worry

they will fix that

What is better, a 20 sec buff that grants 20% dam bonus...

Or an overloaded damage button with bells and whistles

Boii BS is weak

[upbeat reef]

🙁

[dense elbow]

On AoE it does ok dam tho, dont worry

not great, but alright

[upbeat reef]

honestly I can roll with avatar

bladestorm always felt kinda the arms thing

wait, do we actually press rend?

i thought it was there just for clap

[rancid ermine]

Or spec into rend adds the rend bleed to whirlwind and enhances deep wounds

Thats better than a stupid button to push because blizz smooth brains think it is "iconic"

[olive wraith]

Slayer presses rend in aoe. And it’s a filler for st

[tall ruin]

i was testing a little last night, i don tthink rend takes a stack of imp ww

but spreads when its up

[olive wraith]

Rend is an aoe button

[tall ruin]

never learned to read

[rare garnet]

[stable frost]

Real zug zug brains only

[tall ruin]

all that to say, i dont think it really feels bad to press, and its something to track

tabbing targets just to get rends out would be terrible

[frank dawn]

Buff Bladestorm

[limpid hound]

Wait do we still spam Raging blow after bladestorm or did they change that talent

[frank dawn]

that is deadge

[limpid hound]

god damn i have to rewire my brain

[orchid oyster]

I swapped BT and RB on my bars, that seemed to help.

But I haven't played a ton with bladestorm yet

[south kayak]

Buff Cyclone

[frank dawn]

Cyclone should make it feel real good on ST, not just barely beating Avatar

BUFF THEM BOTH

[unreal onyx]

so we playing slayer avatar now?

[frank dawn]

only on pure single target

[unreal onyx]

with half the hero talents being bladestorm focused?

MT we using bs?

[frank dawn]

yeah, anytime Bladestorm can hit more than one target it's better than Avatar for Slayer

[summer quail]

only in pure st. which there are very few fights for

[sullen dove]

that feels strange no

like u get 2 opportunities to bs on dimensius but otherwise aint no way avatar doesnt clear when u can use it like 5 more times

[random hill]

yo

is fury thane still better?

on prepatch

[sullen dove]

slightly but think gap is a lot closer for aoe rn

so can do whichever you like i guess

[random hill]

ye i was wondering if slayer might be much better

cuz warrior is not good AS good as it was be4 nerfs

[wary iris]

So... if you take Avatar instead of Bladestorm... do all the bladestorm specific talents in slayer do nothing?

[sullen dove]

yes

[random hill]

yes

[sullen dove]

but the other talents u pick up r still strong enough to go for those usually

[wary iris]

Which is like... a third of the talents?

[sullen dove]

[random hill]

it is what it is xd

[sullen dove]

bs ava choice node def like one of the silliest things still not rly sure why it exists

but also the fact that avatar is now under AM and they removed berserkers torment i just feel like why even have it be a second cooldown

and just apply the 20% dmg buff to reck and just have 1 cooldown

needlessly complicating it for zero reason as they're basically identical cds now

[random hill]

u think [Ground Current] or [Burst of Power] on m+

cuz [Ground Current] tooltip dmg looks small af

[sullen dove]

idr those by the name

o uhh i mean idk the wowhead one i copied has ground current i think its just potentially more aoe

even if the dmg is small cuz you do get quite a bit of lightning strikes

guaranteed for every thunder blast and 25% chance off most abilities normally which i think bumps up to 55% during avatar

[random hill]

i see

ill do some runs with it on 20

[dim spindle]

I think they should just have BS apply rend. And while we're at it, why not BT, rampage, and RB?

And heck, why not. WW too... hamstring? Yes.

[chrome delta]

im starting to lose my mind here, so we take all the bladestorm talents, its even written that bladestorm becomes a powerful single target cooldown but we dont actually talent into bladestorm for single target ??? also we pick up more bloodthirst damage and more throwing attack damage but no champions spear and we basicly never press bloodthirst but somehow we also dont pick up more raging blow damage ??

[young swan]

BT owns, RB sucks; Avatar owns (on ST), BS sucks (not actually but having avatar with every reck is insane)

you take the BS talents to get to reap the storm, which is were all of slayers damage comes from currently

u take javlineer because it buffs wrecking throw

spear on its own sucks

[candid sorrel]

Raging blow damage heavily nerfed - champions spear is not worth picking except utility - Bloodthirst got a big buff - and bladestorm still loses to avatar single targer

[chrome delta]

so we only take javelineer to get to dual wield spec ?

[young swan]

correct

resonant voice is just bad

[chrome delta]

slayer is cooked man

yea

[candid sorrel]

But 72 minute bshout!!!

[young swan]

!!!!!

[candid sorrel]

Smh

[random hill]

hmm

ara 20

i wasnt rending thou do i need to manually rend/+refresh it?

[candid sorrel]

Rend is big aoe dam if your packs live

[random hill]

thats unlucky

ill test again

and im getting feeling so far thats slayer might be over thane

[orchid oyster]

doesn't matter in two weeks

[random hill]

ye but im bored

i kinda wanna do sth

[rose rain]

Gonna be returning to the game after almost a year....hope fury is at least middle of the pack...what are the impressions so far? or too soon to say since its only the pre patch?

[olive wraith]

Middle of the pack is a safe assumption

[rose rain]

sounds good, less likely to get nerfed

[olive wraith]

Slayer needs to press rend to apply/refresh

[sullen dove]

If you’d go so far as to rend in m+ surely you just cop thunder clap

[olive wraith]

Less than 5 seconds left on debuff makes rend higher prio than rb

[polar root]

rend is aoe so it's not bad tbh

[sullen dove]

or can slayer not tclap rend

[olive wraith]

Clap doesn’t give ww for slayer

[trail locust]

Hello ! When reckleness, just spam bb, cb, execute and overcap rage thats right

[crude yew]

• slayer has no bonuses to tclap so there's no reason to use it over rend

[olive wraith]

So it’s basically wasting an extra talent for pressing clap over rend

Ya

[sullen dove]

yea not ww but even still

[harsh cypress]

guys

where is tbc warrior discord?

[sullen dove]

there’s no shot u be single target rending multiple targets in aoe

[olive wraith]

Clap doesn’t do damage for slayer I’m pretty sure

[olive wraith]

?

Rend is an aoe button

[sullen dove]

what

[polar root]

yea clap is worthless for slayer

[sullen dove]

since when

[olive wraith]

Since it was given to fury

[sullen dove]

breh

[harsh cypress]

there is no tbc section on skyhold?

so rude

slacky admins

[sullen dove]

Uh i mean u can try #vanilla-discussion

assume similar enough

[hardy shuttle]

They wanted to make our class defining abilities uniform odyns=rend

[sullen dove]

idk how Many ppl frequent that though

[harsh cypress]

looks as dead as sand

[olive wraith]

Fight club is the classic server

[hardy shuttle]

Usually fightclub is classic shit

[olive wraith]

I don’t have a link but it’s probably searchable here

[harsh cypress]

hmm theres like 3 different fightclub discord servers on google 😛

[hardy shuttle]

https://discord.com/channels/383596811517952002/1024035623864115220

Idk if that works

[polar root]

in tbc you can just get some crit and wing it... guides are not really needed imo

[harsh cypress]

yea

I found it 40k classic warrior enthusiasts

ty so much guys

have a lovely evening shredding blood from your enemies!

[hardy shuttle]

Just get it to where miss chance is 18% at 3+ lvls and slam crit ezpz

While dual weilding at least

[olive wraith]

Gl hf

[rose rain]

Did i read right we can finally transmog 2handers into 1handers in Midnight?

[polar root]

yup

[rose rain]

oh wow, i did not think i would see the day, that is awesome news

If we can still heroic leap into charge in mid air i don't need anything else

Doing that is propably half the fun of playing the warrior for me

[olive wraith]

Not only can you still do that

But you can talent into interlope for another “charge”

[candid sorrel]

Targeted, too!

[rose rain]

you mean....double charge?

[candid sorrel]

Interpose?

[olive wraith]

Yes sorry that one

[olive wraith]

3 separate charge buttons

[rose rain]

it's different from that intercept yellow thingie we had before?

[olive wraith]

If you consider leap a charge

[olive wraith]

It’s a Choice node with that one

So you take intervene or interpose

[rose rain]

Sounds awesome

[harsh cypress]

are you guy discussing retail fury warriors?

[rose rain]

Yea i am learning what's new since i haven't played in almost a year...last thing i did was that goblin raid

[polar root]

the only part that sucks is that now we have to pick between avatar and bladestorm again

[rose rain]

I think the last time i felt we were perfect in m+ was season 2 or 3 of Dragonflight...i really enjoyed the gameplay loop we had then

Or it was simply easy for me to play so i enjoyed it a lot.

I think in War Within i felt better in raid than in m+

[olive wraith]

Only for st

[olive wraith]

S3 tww fury was the closest we got to being meta in recent expacs

[polar root]

yea, tww fury was so good

[rose rain]

I stopped playing a couple months before that

[olive wraith]

Rip

[random hill]

yea

[prisma tide]

End of S3 fury was meta

[young swan]

depends on ur definition of meta i guess

was straight up outclassed by fdk, hdh, and hunter

[olive wraith]

Pretty damn close either way

[young swan]

in terms of popularity, ret was higher in 15+

[young swan]

sure but "meta" and meta are differnt

fury was off-meta

[undone flower]

And. Another warrior was meta

[polar root]

fury will always be off meta because of the target cap

[olive wraith]

Ye, I mean I said it was the closest to meta it has been in recent times

[young swan]

i was responding to the guy that said it was meta

was definitely really close

[olive wraith]

Meh target cap doesn’t matter that much

[polar root]

but most importantly it was fun as fuck

[olive wraith]

Like arcane was meta because of funnel

[young swan]

if prot hadnt been insane, fury prob wouldve weaseled in

[polar root]

prot is looking pretty weak right now so we might

[undone flower]

I would say prot is a bigger speed bump for furry to cross to be meta, since it must be a season with bsshout and a season without prot.

[young swan]

nah

the meta for beta rn is pure magic

[olive wraith]

We have to be strong when prot is weak for a chance

[young swan]

legit not even close

unless if arcane/demo/unholy all get shot

[radiant plank]

survival > uh

[olive wraith]

Devour gotta shine before us anyways

[undone flower]

Yes you need at the same time : prot leave the room and your bshout is useful

[undone flower]

Tbf I’m gonna play one, it is so simple I find it chill

As an alt

[olive wraith]

I mean it’s gonna be super popular I imagine

New shiny spec attracts a bunch people

[polar root]

brewmaster seem to be pretty popular so I don't think we'll be that bad either

[undone flower]

I suppose it will

[radiant plank]

nothing shiny about spamming your filler for 10seconds in opener lust

[young swan]

premier tank atm from what ive heard

[polar root]

yea

[young swan]

it is literally a coin toss atm

[undone flower]

Yeah that’s why I say chill, like playing healer in a 10, I sometime enjoy that

[smoky vale]

i think unless you lose so much damage from bringing war, brew will want it always

[olive wraith]

Doesn’t it depend if shout is enough to bridge the gap

Afaik arcane is giga

[young swan]

idk if this is a bit or not

i thought all hunter specs were undertuned

isnt boomstick just insane and thats it

[olive wraith]

Saw a few runs where surv was pumping

[mental obsidian]

after wednesday fury stays better for st? same talents ?

[olive wraith]

Compared to arms?

[mental obsidian]

yes

fury slayer for st ?

[olive wraith]

Yes, but bt talents

[radiant plank]

nah dw dagger survi does big

[mental obsidian]

like this is works for st fight ? slayer

[radiant plank]

like this

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/fury/slayer/EANBRUFVRVQWYRpQBRNVVUUUZCERkVFQBAFFRUVEBA

[smoky vale]

i think its more so about brew living

i think the extra ap helps them a lot

[olive wraith]

Til

[smoky vale]

@vital jewel did i make that shit up or does war help brew live

wife summoning jutsu

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-jutsu-power-saved-gif-10072139

[mental obsidian]

thanks a lot

[median marsh]

i had a WA that on each ready pull - show if i have flask/ oil / healthstone and all those things, is there any addon that do this now?

[junior crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxqaP6NwioA

does this happen for you guys aswell? char gets stuck in position

[small quartz]

is troll good racial for fury?

[haughty quest]

yeah since forever

[junior crag]

it started in prepatch for me

wth

its annoying AF

[olive wraith]

Don’t worry about racial unless you’re going for hall of fame or title keys imo

[smoky vale]

rhey dont matter in either context

[vital jewel]

Dude if u depend on a warrior to live as brewmaster u just gotta blow urself up unironically

[smoky vale]

but does ap help you live a little more

yes or no

[vital jewel]

I mean ap makes me do more damage which makes me do more healing

[smoky vale]

but you're not wrong

[vital jewel]

Idk the context

[smoky vale]

like title or rank 1 keys

[vital jewel]

Of this convo im at work

Best thing for a brewmaster is a resto druid if u want to lice

Live

Cause hots proc ur crit healing more

Which makes u stable

Brew good in melee comps so warrior naturally goes with it

[heady wedge]

is mt better than slayer rn?

[smoky vale]

ive just been told brew is dependent on war in keys

[coarse nest]

As the pug leader just always form physical comp ez

[vital jewel]

Way more dependent on resto druid

But then again I dont do keys

[smoky vale]

wife next season is your time to shine

[young swan]

yeah its always pretty solid

its better when cd's are strong, worse when they arent

[vital jewel]

Dh season

Or paladin

[smoky vale]

thats only when you'll play?

[sullen dove]

if u gonna make up some yap about racials not mattering then a 3% dmg buff doesnt matter for a tank

[smoky vale]

5%

!!!!

[sullen dove]

yawn

and dwarf racial is like the single most op racial for like 85% of keys historically

[smoky vale]

you say that but wont login to do keys

[vital jewel]

I play whatever is fotm I just dont like pugging keys for score

[smoky vale]

yawn

[vital jewel]

Cause people who push keys are usually awful

[sullen dove]

true

[smoky vale]

hey can we do 5 warrior main team

soredish can heal

🙂

[sullen dove]

can you induce nuclear fission

in your bones

[vital jewel]

Wouldn't touch u woth a 70 foot pole

[smoky vale]

???

[olive wraith]

71 foot pole though ?

[smoky vale]

what does this do to my bones

[sullen dove]

idk probably nothing good

[smoky vale]

[sullen dove]

or maybe u turn into the hulk

flip a coin find out

[smoky vale]

did you kill the 14 boss yet

or noobus alert

[sullen dove]

today surely

enrage couple times

[smoky vale]

are you top dam

[sullen dove]

like 4% or somethin lowest

uhh sometimes not all the time

doing dmg in this game does feel kind of ass

[vital jewel]

Xan gio xeos were all on the island

Js

[sullen dove]

🔁

retruth that

[smoky vale]

"xan ..... ...." - vil

[sullen dove]

crazy how that like almost melds

xan + gio = xeos

x - io - s

[smoky vale]

yo vips what happened to swordish infinity guild app

[sullen dove]

who r u

everything burns

light it up lets go light it up lets go

[vital jewel]

Marok broke the bot so it didnt go thru hexwkuld of been accepted otherwise surely probably maybe

6 warrior mains in guild he'd fit in

[sullen dove]

idk bout allat

yea

that sounds better

im in if its a 5 warrior tier

words of apook

[vital jewel]

Shit might be rough even then

[sullen dove]

tru

[river viper]

well fury feels crap now I can't keep up with a DK 10 ilvls lower than me in either single target or multi target its just doing 10K more than me no matter what

[olive wraith]

Got logs?

[feral ivy]

YESSSS

[olive tide]

just curious, was looking for known bugs, is there a pin before I ask about one affecting me?

[feral ivy]

PLS TO HOLY FUCK MAKE THIS STAY

[olive wraith]

Send it

[olive wraith]

I swear they said they were removing valorstones

[olive tide]

The lightning bolts from execute, blood thirst, and raging blow consuming improved whirlwind stacks

[olive wraith]

Interesting

First I’ve hear of it

Got a video?

[olive tide]

gimmeh a sec, I will use outplayed to make one from dummies

unless it is something else, but its the only ability I see interacting with those

[olive wraith]

Lightning strikes isn’t supposed to consume stacks

So if it’s as you say that’s deffo a bug

[modest condor]

are you sure you're not just using an addon that incorrectly tracks your whirlwind stacks?

[olive tide]

using bcm, sec trying to get video

[sullen dove]

if it stays 50 gold an upgrade level sure

but im not tryina see that shit double per lvl breh

need 50k gold to full upgrade your gear

minus like 100s of stacks of raid consumes pog

[lean valley]

Is raidbots way off for fury? also I feel like I am doing way less after this second prepatch update

[haughty quest]

Yeah it feels like we lost some dmg and that m+ got buffed. Last week I was going to 22 and 21 pretty easy and this week it’s super rough

[olive tide]

And this time i was just watching buffs in top right

[modest condor]

there were some bugs found in raidbots, im not sure how impactful they are but im sure they'll be fixed before the expansion launches

[olive tide]

you can see multiple times I just lose 2 stacks, and its on those ability uses

[modest condor]

oh no

that's just rampage being dumb

[lean valley]

I mean, I was lacking damage in the ST department before now, I am like around 25-30k on bosses depending on the boss, and over all its just less

[modest condor]

it consumes the stack after the last hit

so it looks like you lose 2 stacks at once

but it's just one from rampage and one from the next ability

[sullen dove]

are ya hittin the right buttons

lot of stuff changed to where u almost never hit rb anymore

[olive tide]

oh I was just hitting rb to confirm my own theory

[sullen dove]

dmg breakdown should be like all reap/execute/rampage/bb/bt pretty much

[olive tide]

but if its rampage, that makes sense

[olive wraith]

In the video?

Search iww in here there’s a better ww tracker if you’re interested

[olive tide]

I thought it was lightning bolt from mountain thane procing the double use, so I was using it to try to get my procs

[modest condor]

yeah you can see in the video every time you lose 2 stacks at once it's from an ability you pressed after rampage

and the rampage itself looks like it doesnt consume

[olive tide]

Yeah that makes sense, dont like it but makes sense

[modest condor]

nobody likes it

[fickle cedar]

why does fury feel like ass rn, not enjoying it compared to previous expansions

[modest condor]

we've been complaining about it since forever

forever being all of beta

[olive wraith]

That’s why the person made the addon

For better ww tracking

[modest condor]

at one point it was so bad you could cheese whirlwind stacks depending on when you used rampage

[sullen dove]

addon seems kinda whack too

[olive wraith]

Idk, what about it

[sullen dove]

Think the only serious issue with fury is the bs/av choice node

atm

[fickle cedar]

idk it feels half baked, maybe its prepatch but i dont see it changing that much at max lvl

[glossy lichen]

Every spec feels half baked compared to previous expaccs

[olive wraith]

What’s making it feel half baked

[river viper]

animations don't even work correct for a start

[olive tide]

playing fury from other classes barely feels like it got touched in comparison at least

[olive wraith]

That’s got nothing to do with rotations

[fickle cedar]

i dont like rend, bs/av as you said which completely makes the slayer tree irrelevant, it doesnt feel that smooth i dont know how to explain it : (

[olive wraith]

Ye I can get behind the rend hate

[earnest canyon]

anyone else get booted off the server and then when they log back in, its "retrieving character list"?

[olive tide]

yuup

[olive wraith]

Idk what makes it feel less smooth though

[olive tide]

yes

[tall raft]

y

[earnest canyon]

https://klipy.com/gifs/druski-rage

[summer quail]

i think fury feels better than tww. thane actually feels good in cds and slayer has guaranteed reap on sd making it actually good on aoe

fury eating good

[river viper]

odyn's fury is near the bottom of the talent tree and it does fuck all damage, its hardly worth pressing

[sullen dove]

5% dmg for 1 point is more than most talents

if not all

[olive wraith]

We also don’t have the tier yet

[olive tide]

not to mention its a way to deal mass aoe

that imrpoved ww doesnt give lol

[sullen dove]

I only wish odyns natty gave 4 ww stacks

it just has to

so cringe without it

[glossy lichen]

I can't speak for War, first time playing it since MoP, but most specs atm are trimmed so much that they may seem 'half baked' compared to other expacs

[sullen dove]

As far as I can tell most specs got way more taken away

[summer quail]

and i can't speak for non warrior classes

[olive wraith]

Fury lost 1-2 buttons and gained rend

[sullen dove]

fury’s always been the spam the same 4 buttons for the last 10 years spec

and they didn’t take those away really

just changed which ones are better for now

[olive wraith]

We lost TR and half lost avatar/bs

[sullen dove]

Let’s be real

roars been gone since s1

no one cares about that

[olive wraith]

I mean you still pressed it in aoe

But ya

[sullen dove]

Ava/bs only thing that’s bad

[olive wraith]

Warriors also gained a little until

[sullen dove]

But that’s more leaning towards I think avatar literally does nothing other than add 20% dmg to reck window since both are under am

so see zero reason why it exists and they don’t just add 20% dmg to reck and remove Ava

[olive wraith]

Avatar feels good as thane

[sullen dove]

yea it’s still under am there

just everything ava does put it into reck

[glossy lichen]

so have random recklessness procs then too?

[sullen dove]

I mean they can be shortened

instead of like 4 sec of Ava maybe get 2 sec of reck

something

just redundant to have 2 cooldowns on the same timer that under no circumstances do you separate

[olive wraith]

Idk about that one (shortening the procs)

[glossy lichen]

idk imo they just need to make either avatar, reck or bladestorm baseline. But I've legit played war for like 10 days so idk, hopefully they fix a few things before midnight though -.-

[olive wraith]

4s is probably fine

[sullen dove]

yea idk more reck might just be too stronk for the masses

but won’t say no

[glossy lichen]

choosing between enraged regen and imp whirlwind is ridiculous for starters

[sullen dove]

yea a lil

[olive wraith]

Pretty sure that’s not the choice

You drop something else

[lean valley]

5t dummys 1m

[edgy widget]

Idk how that is going to make it to release

[olive wraith]

But sure

[sullen dove]

can drop wrath and fury right

Isn’t there more rb buffs down There we take

[olive wraith]

Don’t think we take wrath and fury at all

[sullen dove]

idr which one

[olive wraith]

Na we all bt talents

[sullen dove]

Imp rb maybe

[olive wraith]

Which part?

[sullen dove]

ik most are dropped

[river viper]

you forgot to use crappy Wrecking Throw

[edgy widget]

The part with enraged regen having to be a choice

[sullen dove]

dont think 84k horrible

what ilvl are you

[olive wraith]

Meh

ER isn’t even our best defensive

[sullen dove]

i got maybe 110kish sustain as slayer but im max gear basically

[olive wraith]

I’m not super stressed about that part

[lean valley]

I am 162

[sullen dove]

yea i mean 7~ish more ilvl prolly somewhat significant

[lean valley]

i played heavily before .5 patch came out, then when the patch came out I dumped all my currency and I play like once a week with my buddies do like 2-6 12's or whatever.

[hot shell]

We have something better than 30% dmg reduction?

[olive wraith]

Stance mastery is generally better

[hot shell]

Wasnt that 15%

[lean valley]

i guess the 15% is better than a cooldown

[hot shell]

Thanks, youve given me something to test for meself
I personally love ER since the healer can just ignore you for a while so i will still take it

[olive wraith]

Just fyi you can’t really take stance mastery rn

Just because the talent restrictions on pre patch

[white gate]

Anyone has any updated talent tree for MT that it's not wowhead?

I would like to see it 😛

[olive wraith]

Why not wowhead

[white gate]

Wowhead sucks lol, it always has something way different than murlokio, but currently some of the top players have an outdated version of the talent trees in Murlok

[olive wraith]

I mean it works for title players so I’d disagree

[sullen dove]

incredibly unlikely any meaningful talents are different than whatever's shown on that other mid site

only thing that would maybe make sense is some difference in utility talents or something

but wowhead is the best resource almost always for simple stuff like talent builds

thats not really up for debate its the best talents that do the most dps basically all of the time

unless you're azortharian and sandbag your spec with dogshit talents on purpose to get buffed later

[frank dawn]

S3 TWW Hunter is dobby tier guys

Trust

[sullen dove]

both him and kalamazi are clowns in that regard

"warlock is so bad guys"

[young swan]

but currently some of the top players have an outdated version of the talent trees in Murlok
because murlok sucks lmfao

[sullen dove]

not a raid tier in the history of this game lock isn’t top 5 minimum

[young swan]

ive never seen a website that doesnt work as consistently as murlok

[white gate]

We are all entitled to our opinions I suppose

[young swan]

if whatever API they use wasnt shit and broke every patch it might be a good site

[olive wraith]

I think it’s also funny that you come to the discord run by the wowhead author to ask

[indigo arch]

[summer quail]

out of curiosity do you also hate the icyveins guide?

[white gate]

I dont like it a lot

[summer quail]

but you think it's better than wowhead?

[white gate]

No

Wowhead is still better

[summer quail]

curious. made by the same guy

[white gate]

Wowhead updates quite, fast, I just dont like their talent choices sometimes.

[white gate]

Wowhead is a little bit more complete, I suppose, theres a lot of other stuff in Wowhead other than talent builds. I like the dressing room, and the news from there.

[olive wraith]

Is there something wrong with the current talent choices on the site?

[white gate]

I think it doesnt add much into utilities, I wanted to compare between other sources.

[olive wraith]

Like which ones

Sry lots of questions I’m just trying to understand

[white gate]

Anything anyone else is using that its not wowhead lol.

Alternatives, is it really that complex?

[olive wraith]

Copy critcakes build

[white gate]

Whos that? I havent heard of him is a that a page, a player? 😛

[olive wraith]

Player

One of the more popular fury streamers

[white gate]

Thank you, I'll check it out

[olive wraith]

[white gate]

https://murlok.io/character/eu/silvermoon/critcake/pve is this him btw?

[olive wraith]

Ya

[white gate]

I appreciate the help

[orchid iron]

wait, no storm bolt, shockwave, no berserker shout, like.... theres no way thats the best build for pugging? surely he's got a squad built to work together

[olive wraith]

Could it be a raid loadout perhaps

[white gate]

Couldnt be, Murlok only has M+ builds here right? Im not sure how it works to be honest

[olive wraith]

Idk I don’t use murlok

[white gate]

I might just not use interlope and get stormbolt, maybe he didnt mean to spec like that

No shockwave either, odd

[orchid iron]

hes got wrecking throw and interpose

im a shit player but the whole thing is a head scratcher

[olive wraith]

I think he drops his builds at the start of his videos

[orchid iron]

(in the contextless void)

[olive wraith]

Maybe that’s not updated I have no clue

[white gate]

I should check out then latest video I found its mostly slayer. I dont like slayer sadly, Mountain Thane is my fav

[olive wraith]

I’m sure he has a thane segment somewhere

[hardy cargo]

conversely if he has done a key, you can go to his rio and just yoink his build from a key

[summer quail]

both are perfectly viable in m+, thane for more overall. slayer for more st

[white gate]

Yeah I know, I just like Thane more haha. Thunder Clap is my favorite thing

[olive wraith]

CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgGDjZMjlZGzYmZMzYGzYmlZmxYmZZMzMAAQYAwyiRDDIDMjFADMbDAmZAMMzMDGA

[tame saddle]

indeed

[white gate]

thanks!

Interesting. Im gonna miss enraged regeneration lol. I guess I could take Massacre out, or would that be dumb to do?

[olive wraith]

Most people don’t run ER afaik

But ya I guess massacre would be something you could swap out

[young swan]

what are u taking zerker shout for

shockwave pretty easy to get, same with stormbolt

i dont see the problem with wowheads build

[olive wraith]

Neither does he

(Renan)

[fiery gyro]

I'm sorry guys I know this might be a very noob question but I just switched to try fury and looking at wowhead talents they recommend Avatar, however everything looks tied to bladestorm, how do we use bladestorm lol

[olive wraith]

Assuming you’re looking at slayer st build

You don’t use bs

[fiery gyro]

Yes, but a couple of hero talents are red because they empower bladestorm

[olive wraith]

Yup that’s true

Avatar still performs better

In st

[fiery gyro]

are those just to fill and get reap the storm then

[young swan]

yep

[fiery gyro]

that's just sad lol. But ok thanks!

[olive wraith]

You’re right

[white gate]

So how is everyone feeling on M+ at the moment? I feel I cant compete with Devourers for top damage anymore lol. I've been doing 19s and 20s, and I feel I lost quite a chunk of damage overall, around 10k if Im correct

[olive wraith]

10k overall in a key isn’t too bad

1. Hard to compare between key runs. 2. Rotation has changed a little so unsure if you are doing the current best apl. 3. We just flat out lost some damage with the talent restrictions

[white gate]

Still hurts tho. Kinda sucks Im not top damage anymore when having Devoureres and Devastation. The double Dev menace rn

[olive wraith]

It happens

Build felt fine though?

Did you end up taking er

[white gate]

I did, it feels the same, just whenever I hit thunderblast I dont see the spike in damage, but mechanically I feel the same.

[undone flower]

Devourers are cracked rn

On the reclear we were kinda surprised he was first

[white gate]

They suddenly spike like crazy, I cant keep up :'c

[olive wraith]

I mean we are a very flat damage profile

Massacre would help you a little in your overall too

[gleaming crag]

lmao

[orchid iron]

I’m looking at the crit cake m+ build somebody posted.

[gleaming crag]

2 and a half min fight and trinket top dmg like how dumb is that shit

[young swan]

well sure but i still dont get why zerker shout is worth commenting about specifically lmao

its just not a good cd in pve

[olive wraith]

Idk if that’s updated cause I swear I see him running shockwave

[edgy widget]

that's not a valid build anyway, since you can't put 11 points in the bottom of the tree anymore
@white gate see #updates-midnight for current builds

[white gate]

Yup Im not using that one anymore I got a different one from Kalaiath coming from the Same guy. Thanks tho!

[edgy widget]

I would still suggest going to the actual resource that has all of the builds in one consolidated location, rather than getting random builds linked one at a time
good way to future proof against having to come back and ask again for the next build 😛

[olive wraith]

Can I share a secret

It’s the wowhead build I shared

[acoustic seal]

[edgy widget]

they're all gonna be the same, especially since there's no real talent variety right now

[olive wraith]

Sorry for the deception

[deft palm]

Lol https://youtube.com/shorts/eq-nprAwAeA?si=9dgXKdjea1qfktr7

[white gate]

is it tho?

[white gate]

Gotta change it again tho, thanks for telling me 🙂

CgEAjLzRlq54bI5v+r8Sr9Xw4DAAAAAAgGDjZMz2yMzMDmxMjZMzMzyMzYMmlxMzAAAxMbbjNWgZaYmhJzCzMWAMDmlBAzMAGmZGYA This one I found a bit ago

Whats your guy's take?

[summer quail]

[olive wraith]

Yes. I copied it from wowhead

[white gate]

Check this one out as well, doesnt harm to try

[olive wraith]

I’m not on my pc

[white gate]

You guys are kinda funny tho, feels like im talking to redditors

[olive wraith]

Ss the page

[acoustic seal]

ironically this is the most reddit comment ive read all day bro

[olive wraith]

I’m just trying to help you bud. Your bias was interfering from getting a build

[white gate]

We are all bias in a way dont you think?

But hey thanks for trying to help.

[summer quail]

that one is missing 5% straight up damage from dual wield mastery. way better than 3% attack power

however if you want to feelycraft you are free to do so

[acoustic seal]

5% free dmg is for weaklings, i dont do handouts

[olive wraith]

Oh 100% we all have bias. But in this case your aversion to wowhead prevented you from finding a build. Like you didn’t even want to go look?

We yap all day in here so if you find a better build lmk. But I’m not smart enough to theory craft builds then test them out by creating an APL

I trust the pros

[white gate]

I did I tried it on tuesday, I was trying to see if there was something else

[olive wraith]

I mean you said you liked it after you tried it. So idk man

[white gate]

The one I sent you i kinda like I keep most of the utilities and get extra haste

[olive wraith]

What extra utility

Again I’m not on my pc so I can’t see it

You’ll need to ss it

[white gate]

Enraged regeneration, storm bolts, fearless, I kinda like it

[jagged folio]

is slayer a massive loss for M+, not vibin the whole thunder clap vibe. I wanna chop things not be a shaman pretender.

[white gate]

Battlefield commander and wild strikes feel nice

[modest condor]

if by storm bolts you mean the thane talent then that talent sucks

[white gate]

helps me out when my buddies are not kicking XD

[modest condor]

it increases the cooldown of storm bolt and makes it randomly target 2 other mobs that you cant control

if you're fighting more than 3 mobs you'll just stun the wrong one half the time

[olive wraith]

Nope it’s only slightly behind

And has more st/prio

[jagged folio]

papa bless

[white gate]

Eh, I'll try it, doesnt feel bad tho

[olive wraith]

Are you not running AM?

[white gate]

I just tried it on dummies Imma try a 19 I have on my bag

yes I am

Check the build, I linked, you can see more there, cheers!

[olive wraith]

Sir for the 3rd time. I’m not on my pc

[summer quail]

he is but is not running dual wield spec

also running thorim's might which is a headscratcher

[olive wraith]

Oh my

3% ap+1% haste and AA speed vs 6% damage

Idk about that one

[acoustic seal]

feels good

[white gate]

Yah I'll let you know how it performs

[olive wraith]

🫡 gl friend

[white gate]

Thanks! 😛

[undone flower]

Didn’t they remove full cc immune DR ? It makes the thane talent less bad

[modest condor]

you're still not gonna stop the cast you want to stop

[white gate]

I usually do tho. You target the one you want to stop and 2 extra randoms

[modest condor]

ok but if you only want to stun 1 target then you just dont take storm bolts and use the lower cooldown

[undone flower]

Yeah I wouldn’t pick it, you just made me remember the cc DR change

[white gate]

Theres nothing that slows you on ECO right? or roots you. I think I'll take Fearless for rumbling earth on this one

[modest condor]

the spear on 2nd boss is considered a slow

at least the slayer charge talent removes it

[white gate]

hmm, I think I'll be fine ont hat one. I'll use fearless when Im in Priory I suppose, cause getting stuck in a trap sucks, or floodgate getting pinned near a bomb

I rahter get Rumbling earth for eco due to how many casts are out there, its hard to coordinate kicks while pugging

[lean heart]

nothing does any dmg rn for pre patch but hopefully they address us not being able to take Enraged Regen before the raid drops lmao

[young swan]

wont happen

[lean heart]

[south kayak]

"Not being able" is not correct

You are able to take it

[lean heart]

you know what i mean

[south kayak]

I don't think we really need ER unless we're doing some high keys

Very high

[smoky vale]

you dont need it then either

🙂

[south kayak]

Being able to skip ER like this might be weird but it's definitely not a big deal

[indigo arch]

D stance+thane tankiness is enough

[glossy lichen]

I think it's less about the necessity and more about the feeling of decisions between talents

[indigo arch]

The key level you'd need for ER= oh well, since season is over

[south kayak]

The decision would be dropping Cruelty for ER

[indigo arch]

And yes, ER should be higher on tree or baseline

This goes for die by the sword as well

[olive wraith]

Cruelty over massacre?

[south kayak]

I don't know what's less dps

[olive wraith]

Ah gotcha. Thought you knew something I wasn’t aware of

[south kayak]

[olive wraith]

If I had to guess those two sound like the things to cut

[bitter palm]

should be on the class tree

no reason for it not to be

same with dbts

[indigo arch]

And way the fuck up there too

20% shout duration could def go and they put it there

[tiny seal]

Is it normal that the specc feels ultra shit rn?

[brittle crow]

it feels great to me

[jade cipher]

same, coming from raging blow spam, this feels great

[south kayak]

Yep

[tiny seal]

yea but the damage isnt there on st for example

[south kayak]

When you say "the spec feels ultra shit" it makes it seem like you're talking about the gameplay

[tiny seal]

true but the rb build also felt better imo

[smoky vale]

[fading sky]

If u think old gameplay was better please quit 😅

Fury slayer plays way better. St dmg can found later

[tiny seal]

Alright will quit for having an opinion o7

[vapid dagger]

Fury slayer really fun to play, but dmg are shit

[dense elbow]

I play suboptimal builds, and I still keep up or lead on the meters. Then, I do m+, we struggling in raids?

[plush zephyr]

I mean. At this point retails rotation is about the same as MoP rn

[vapid dagger]

It's kinda boring having to count 4 spells for WW

[plush zephyr]

Also I can find historical data of Gokke wanting old Arms back from DF 👀

[median umbra]

there are addons to track it for you

[vapid dagger]

Yes, but I mean WW.doest n feel good in the rotation

Other class have a bigger uptime on aoe spell buff

[plush zephyr]

idk what you’re on about

[vapid dagger]

Rogue outlaw, or.even arm warrior

You dont have to spam their aoe buff spell every 3 seconds

[honest trail]

Since WW itself does decent aoe dmg I think it's fine

It's not just a buff

Pressing flurry or something which is just a buff and often has a shorter different gcd feels way way worse

And old school

Tho arguably most of the WoW community seems to like 2004 game design more

[fading sky]

Difference

Df arms worked better

And fury keepin bt ( which is a core ability on cd) seems correct

[rancid crag]

Guys I cannot time +20 flood 15+ tries now

Its so over after this patch

[fading sky]

Tbf why?

Cant u

[wary smelt]

are we looking okay for midnight? or is seeking a new class a maybe? lol

[open mountain]

fury should be okay, but you can expect some tuning

in m+ i think we look better, in raids idk

[faint whale]

Skill issue maybe

[iron portal]

Def the end of the world, no new expac with more talent points incomming soon

[jolly marten]

So we have what? Another one or two tuning passes?

Since we skipped this week I guess

[vale solar]

Do we look better in raids?

[frank dawn]

Beta builds are done. At this point in the past nothing happens until tuning before raid

[elder mulch]

we are cooked boys

[echo rapids]

I think we look fine in raid. All 6 of the tested raid fights have periodic adds and it looks like we will still be able to do decent burst aoe and solid cleave even in a single target damage focused build.

We continue to be one of the tankier melee

[jade cipher]

i rather start season at bottom and get tunings along the way rather than being overcooked because we stole dps on rashanan and brood twister mobs

even when they did to us, we were almost at bottom when it came to boss damage.

[zenith shale]

fury now little bit ass o.O ? wtf ?

[dense elbow]

@flat river topped DPS in the keys we did, we safe, dont worry

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/locked-in-cat-cat-meme-wee-wee-cat-attitude-gif-15394742199019716178

[dense elbow]

ppl saying Fury is bad, just are bad

[flat river]

real

it's the player not the class

i made it look strong thats why we got nerfed

mb

[dense elbow]

True and real, real and true

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/real-plastic-man-gif-16817691016826173259

[astral lynx]

guy´s i need help.. no matter how i spend my skill points.. i cant reach the bottom tier on the class tree.. any ideas why? or am i jsut too stupid

[smoky vale]

you see how there is a 3

put 3 more points

[astral lynx]

yeah.. if put those in i jsut cant reach the bottom

[smoky vale]

you cant take everything with rhr update

thats okay

[echo rapids]

We get more points at 90

[smoky vale]

until 90

realistically the only thing you need is anger management

so take that and pick whatever else you want

[astral lynx]

alrighty

[coarse nest]

Probably could auto attack without any talents selected and do the same amount of dps

Warrior owns

[dense elbow]

the doom is unreal

[smoky vale]

mickey mouse part of season anyways

[astral lynx]

so this should be fine rightß

[smoky vale]

yeah

[dense elbow]

[echo rapids]

The only thing of note to do in game now is farm up DF raids for transmog since it’s legacy loot now

[summer quail]

yes, preferably javelineer over longer shouts. ranged interrupt is real nice

[echo rapids]

Me chilling with my 72 minute battle shout

[minor walrus]

Hello, is there a way to add whrilwind to the cooldown manager?

[olive wraith]

Improved ww? Yes

[minor walrus]

I'm saying the normal icon not improved 🙁

[bright axle]

yoyo, is there someone to screen his thane talents since talents go changed AGAIN

for m +

[minor walrus]

I'm running this CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgGDjZMjlZGzYmZMzYGzYmlZmxYmZZMzMAAQYAwyiRDDIDMjFADMbDAmZAMMzMDGA

[olive wraith]

Ww doesn’t have a cooldown button want to track it?

[brittle crow]

read the wowhead guide challenge impossible

[olive wraith]

Wowhead has some

[brittle crow]

please bros just read

it's not hard i promise even i can do it

[bright axle]

lmao thanks bro.....

[brittle crow]

it's literally in bold at the top of the page and there's an import button

[bright axle]

and what if I wanna ask ?

[brittle crow]

if you can do a 10 you can copy a talent import string

believe in yourself

[bright axle]

and what if I wanna ask ?

[brittle crow]

yea this 1 might be cooked

[bright axle]

bro ur cooked

Stop cryin over ppl who prefer to ask on warrior disc than looking at wowhead kek

[dense elbow]

Problem is that WoWhead is what 90% source either way, so sending you directly there just makes sense

Importstrings are useful tho, so I would look into how to import/export them

If you want other sources, I recommend WarcraftLogs and for quick checks, raider.io

[bright axle]

no but I beg broski, I know about wlogs and wowhead and raiderio, but I just prefer to ask ppl in this discord, is this a problem ? no

[dense elbow]

Not at all, just see my first point

[bright axle]

its more than this piggy teto fan is angry for z reason

w.e, thanks cheesus

[dense elbow]

Have fun, and enjoy the prepatch o/

[brittle crow]

"id rather ask and wait for someone to tell me what i can find in 5 seconds on my own"

crazy

[bright axle]

sh

[dense elbow]

I like asking in the discord as well, even if I could google it

just is more fun way of doing it

interacting with humans and all that

[bright axle]

yes bro its just an habbit idk

yeah

interacting with teto fan is so good, im enjoying talking with him

https://tenor.com/view/pig-pig-funny-pig-chewing-animal-animal-funny-gif-15291725007664352238

[brittle crow]

im going to kiss you on your lips if you keep this up

[bright axle]

not a problem

for me

uwu

[brittle crow]

.

dms

..

[wheat pollen]

can someone pls explain to my why at slayer ST build on wowhead uses overwhelming blades and bladestorm at hero skills but picks avatar over bladestom at slayer skills????

[bright axle]

my queen

[brittle crow]

bladestorm sucks

and isn't affected by AM

[dense elbow]

didnt read it, but -

BS is not taken on ST, cause Avatar performs a bit better

You just fill the hero talent tree with what little value you can get out of it, as is

[brittle crow]

avatar is good and is affected by AM

[minor walrus]

If you sim it I think Avatar is better for PURE ST dps

[wheat pollen]

so its all about getting reap the storm?

[bright axle]

did they fixed raidbot ?

[brittle crow]

not really

u can use it

but it's not great iirc

[bright axle]

.

[brittle crow]

yea i thought we made up after we got sloppy w it

[dense elbow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sad-cat-eyes-crying-fFa05KbZowXiEIyRse

yes

down, up! Thats the way we like to truck!