Thane auto applies rend
#fury
winter shoal
umbral whale
but slayer doesnt?
winter shoal
For slayer on single target (which is really the only time you should play slayer atm) rend is only barely worth pressing and you won't notice a difference
it's still worth pressing on slayer in aoe
That's just not really a use case that exists atm
umbral whale
right ty
high ibex
Does looting fury for vault still run the risk of getting a 1h weapon?
olive wraith
No
reef laurel
probably a dumb question, but can you interrupt your rampage dmg by sending another ability during the animation?
modest condor
no
keen kindle
sullen dove
would assume df prepatch when they added the big ass talent trees
cant imagine itd just be a random passive in sl just cause
deft palm
do we ever rend in ST?
modest condor
if nothing else except whirlwind is available
fiery edge
my aaaah keep forgetting to press rend
sullen dove
-74 dps gg
fiery edge
craggy heart
bit confused with trinkets for higher keystones, archon shows different builds from wowhead bis. Apart from stone trinket (seems the commonly most used in parses), shall I go dimensius trinket, feather or arakara thingy. 
got arakara, stone and arcane core atm btw
craggy heart
Thanks dude
pale lava
tattoo convention or paintings?
rotund ginkgo
tattoo convention or paintings?
Tattoo
rotund ginkgo
pale lava
this is true old school, looks nice man, gj
rotund ginkgo
Thanks 😁
dense elbow
charred panther
Havent played in forever but while looking at wowhead, the raid spec recommends hero talents related to BS but then doesnt have you talenting into BS. Am i overlooking something? Im sure this has been asked, apologies in advance
modest condor
you're overlooking BS being really weak
charred panther
heard that
modest condor
even the 30% buff on beta isnt enough to make it worth taking on singletarget, and that's with extra talents that make it stronger in the hero tree as well
charred panther
dang
south kayak
even the 30% buff on beta isnt enough to make it worth taking on singletarget, a...
That just shows how strong the combination of Avatar and Reck with AM is
echo rapids
It will almost certainly get fixed fairly soon
south kayak
Not that BS is weak
south kayak
It will almost certainly get fixed fairly soon
Yeah they've already buffed it once and it wasn't enough
They're gonna do it until it is better
modest condor
Not that BS is weak
yeah if you just look at buttons that do damage it's by far our strongest
but if you put it on a choice node with avatar, that's affected by AM, it kinda falls flat
charred panther
im sure thats been asked a bunch since patch, apprec the feedback
modest condor
multiple times a day lol
charred panther
lol
dense elbow
I am just glad ppl finally see the truth, BS needs buffs and always have so 
modest condor
it was fine before they removed it from AM and put it on a choice node with avatar ¯_(ツ)_/¯
dense elbow
nah
steep saffron
is anyone having trouble with sensei WW tracker? it works for me out of combat only
in combat the bars dont fill
steep saffron
ty ty
same problem for some reason it only show whem i press ww ou of combat
dont know why this is happening
for some reason this addon is buging out the WW tracker
and details
rare garnet
for some reason this addon is buging out the WW tracker
i would just remove that addon anyways since hes stopped development on it
ill miss clickable raid buffs
scenic belfry
wary lion
for some reason this addon is buging out the WW tracker
i neither have details nor the raid buff thingy installed
but the stacks didnt track in the raid
only when i hit the dummys in dornogal
i think the logic "if ww is pressed the next 4 spells cleave" is disabled in raids
brittle crow
did prepatch fuck visions scaling
this shit feels IMPOSSIBLE with 8 masks
fury gets melted, and prot survives but does 0 damage to bosses
dusky moon
bleak robin
do we use rend at all?
smoky vale
do we use rend at all?
velvet wraith
Hi ! Does fury damage comes mostly from main hand or both weapon equally ?
velvet wraith
Ok thanks ! So as a general rule, at the begining of a season you’d want to prioritize both weapon over other stuff as much as possible ?
modest condor
if you get to make the choice then yeah
better to get 2 weapons than something like a weapon and boots
oak peak
With the current crest upgrade system though, upgrading a weapon all the way first is no longer recommended
In midnight that is
velvet wraith
Ok I see !
modest condor
that sounds unlikely to me but i dont know the details about it
especially mainhand weapon is strong enough that even if it takes double the resources it's generally worth it to upgrade/craft over something else
velvet wraith
And crafting a weapon early on can be a good idea then ? When you get the first spark or better to get the right embellishment first if the weapon one isn’t the top choice ?
oak peak
Its not double, its wayy more
modest condor
oak peak
Like the first upgrade is 10, the last is 50
modest condor
weapon is always my first craft
oak peak
Yeah for crafts absolutely
modest condor
like unless you're expecting to get funneled 2 2h weapons early in the season it's very unlikely you're just gonna get 2 myth track weapons before you can craft one
velvet wraith
And since it takes two sparks, in the begining of a season, you get it week 3 right ?
modest condor
yes
oak peak
Yeah your better off crafting a 2 hander, and possibly 2 to save crests
At least with current crest costs
velvet wraith
Ok good to know !
And last question, since I came back with some friends during pre-patch to get back into the game for Midnight to push some keys, are the keys easier with the stat squish ?
modest condor
key level difficulty is completely arbitrary
if it's easier you just push a higher keylevel
the real difference is the loss of addons
velvet wraith
Yeah it’s just been a while since we did some M+ and got pretty easily to 3k with everyone below 150ilvl so we’re wondering if it’s representative of how it was before the stat squish haha
velvet wraith
the real difference is the loss of addons
Yeah that one we felt, still getting used to it
velvet wraith
Yeah we figured
At least fury is very satisfying in terms of numbers in big packs haha
sullen dove
keys at the same level are def easier now than before
assuming along the same lines of like the raid being nerfed by like half proly is just squish bullshit
they’ll prolly go back to normal difficulty midnight s1 tho
and think usually early s1 keys comparatively are harder than later seasons cuz you’re only starting to do em with like world quest/heroic dungeon gear and no tier set and stuff like that
surely got huge super rares to farm again
sullen dove
krill issue perhapsge
rigid prism
whats the dps gap between m+ slayer and M+ mountain thane?
brittle crow
krill issue perhapsge
as pwar vs the dwarf boss i literally ran out of room in the arena by the time he got to 20% hp
yes i know u can kick the bombs BUT I SHOULDNT HAVE TO
sudden tusk
@sullen dove the uma musume Twitter people need to be stopped
Bakushin has gone too far
untold heart
with the Slayer MT spec how many targets is there suppose to be to Bladestorm?
modest condor
1 or more
untold heart
ty
rigid prism
whats the % dmg diff from M+ slayer and M+ Mouthain Thane?
sudden tusk
whats the % dmg diff from M+ slayer and M+ Mouthain Thane?
Like now? Or midnight
rigid prism
both if possible
sudden tusk
Now probably thane midnight who knows only tuning will tell
But for %
Is say without the reap change thane is ahead by at least 15% in aoe
Even with the reap change maybe still 10 or more
But it's prepatch so it doesn't matter much
rigid prism
kk, hopefully its less a gap in midnight, not feeling the Thor aesthetics 🙁
sudden tusk
By design I doubt anything changes. But neither should be tuned so poorly that you can't just play slayer if you want to
formal jacinth
Hi guys, I'm very new to Warrior and I'm a bit confused. The wowhead guide (for single target Slayer) shows the Slayer hero talents but recommends the Avatar talent. I looked at the top like 50 logs for several fights that are pure single target and they use Avatar as well.
However, when I use the Avatar talent, several of my Slayer talent tree nodes are 'red' b/c it requires bladestorm.
Am I missing something?
untold heart
nope
formal jacinth
So for the 2 nodes that are red, just part of it right?
modest condor
i mean
you can pick the other 2 talents that require bladestorm
wouldnt change anything
yeah, avatar is just stronger on st
formal jacinth
okay cool, just seeing the red made me think I was doing something super wrong
not that it matters at my skill level currently but still
modest condor
unfortunately it's blizzard that's doing something super wrong
the funniest part is that they buffed it by 30% on the beta and it's still not enough to make it better
smoky vale
@summer quail 
modest condor
How far behind is Slayer for AoE? In keys*
madox answered that a couple of messages up
modest condor
what?
smoky vale
slim pollen
<@137307267975479297> <:anda:1168904285136879647>
Aww, it's just a baby 😄
junior nebula
was looking at some logs, idk if im missing something but im seeing people run violent euphoria and unhinghed in the slayer hero talent, but take avatar instead of bladestorm
am i just missing something or there some hidden tech or something happening lol
modest condor
not exactly hidden considering it's the wowhead build
junior nebula
how do those hero talents proc then, if im not running bladestorm
summer quail
<@137307267975479297> <:anda:1168904285136879647>
10 days of aug holy moly. wonder what my playtime of classes looks like, i'll see when i get my pc.
junior nebula
good lord
lost saffron
@tardy lark you now have ligma
tardy lark
<@198808002629730304> you now have ligma
gleaming siren
clever belfry
gurken tag schmididitoilet
sudden tusk
thick fossil
Yup, guilty of playing way too much.
untold heart
is that an addon that shows that?
warm crag
you click all the green buttons when you open the store
unsure whether 4.8k spirit spike is even necessary
warm crag
spirit resilience is broken
they had a vindicta who was carrying so i bought the strike thing to slap her down
sudden tusk
phantom strike good
warm crag
idk once you hit your 4.8k spike in gun you really dont need more damage
sudden tusk
gonna try to add graves to my playstyle
removed paige becuase shes good, but if im playing support and i just watch my team being ass i cannot handle it
warm crag
yeah i could never play support
sudden tusk
i think rem has more impact
warm crag
can recommend the lightbringer build but it might be a bit hard to understand what he means hwen he makes builds
warm crag
graves is weird cause most of her impact is just making the right choice at the right time theres no mechanical skill involved
warm crag
now venator 4 merchant is my guy
warm crag
i should larn mina
hardest character in the game, if you wanna learn everything at once, go for her
elfin lodge
hardest character in the game, if you wanna learn everything at once, go for her
What are you talking about, left click on enemy, build spirit, ulti on CD gg
warm crag
if you think thats all that mina is then you'll just get stomped lol
umbrella movement is crazy broken
the most broken part of her kit is being able to fullheal on any jungle camp
elfin lodge
i mean, most gun chars can near full heal on jg camps with lifesteal
warm crag
eh you dont really get the proper lifesteal items until complete endgame at least the ones i play
sudden tusk
im almost out of archon
elfin lodge
Thats crazy, early lifesteal on haze is so good tho
sudden tusk
need to play more
only thing i ever buy on haze is bullet lifestean then leech way late
warm crag
what kinda lifesteal we talking ive not seen any source of lifesteal other than fury trance and thats kinda small
elfin lodge
leech is pretty good on haze
warm crag
no better than vamp burst
elfin lodge
that said I have a crazy hybrid spirit gun build for her
warm crag
ok ye that sounds crazy
elfin lodge
its soo good tho
sudden tusk
spirit scaling isnt that good
elfin lodge
you get like perma invis, sub 10s daggers with attack speed, damage , spirit burst
sudden tusk
bullet shread is good but i dont really buy much spirit on her
warm crag
i mean yeah but you could also hold m1
elfin lodge
theres benefits to both
sometimes I go full gun
its a new game, always fun to try and find new builds
warm crag
i dont see how delaying your gun investment by 4.8k+ souls can be good on a character that pretty much is a gun merchant
if you want to cc you can probably find better characters for it
elfin lodge
you dont build spirit early
sudden tusk
might be low lobby games
warm crag
ye but youd give up lucky shot or whatever later
sudden tusk
those games dont end for like 45 minutes
sudden tusk
slim coral
What the helly is this
summer quail
I Don't think context is very relevant there. Anything>aug
sullen dove
why is new dh spec oppenis
and why doesnt odyns inherently give 4 stacks of ww
youd think they could do 1 good thing in this spec tree
sudden tusk
new dh spec is bonkers rn
wonder what its actual tuning will be with the expansion gear and apex talents
becuase it got buffed like 3-4 times in prepatch already
sullen dove
epic
olive wraith
You don’t like doing 70% of their damage?
covert blaze
devourer very op
smoky vale
slim coral
wonder what its actual tuning will be with the expansion gear and apex talents
They will make sure the new spec is meta so it’s shown at RWF
novel oasis
Then there’s outlaw rogue doing 70% of fury’s damage lol
open wigeon
Is fury now actually more durable than ret paladin?
smoky vale
its been more durable since tww
remote falcon
good breakdown or clap more??
olive wraith
Clap is too low I think
brittle crow
miku..
valid pulsar
Do you guys know if the whirlwind stacks bug when using rampage is fixed on beta cooldown manager ?
i mean the bug where it removes a stack from the tracked buffs after rampage animation is over and not on button press
warm crag
dont think thats a bug at this point
valid pulsar
💀
heavy dock
very weird decision then
why would they do it like that, it legit fucks with you at high haste
warm crag
idk man all i know is that it maybe was part of a fix that made ramp eat ww stacks even if it got pearried
doesnt the ww tracker addon that keeps floating around here have this fixed?
valid pulsar
doesnt the ww tracker addon that keeps floating around here have this fixed?
which one ?
heavy dock
idk man all i know is that it maybe was part of a fix that made ramp eat ww stac...
so remove parries
tbh
warm crag
so remove parries
i wish
heavy dock
idk why it still is a mechanic
they cant make fun bosses positioning wise cuz they have to have the boss' ass to the melee
or just make rampage unparriable idk
prob easier fix
valid pulsar
the bar yes but not blizzards tracked buff icon
heavy dock
hm, speaking of is there a way to hide that and still have the tracker work lol
warm crag
the addon i linked seems to have a single icon display option
dunno how it works i dont have it downloaded (yet)
valid pulsar
it does but i like the icon more. but i guess i use this for now
Because with the icon i also get the remaining time of the buff
valid pulsar
Do you guys know addons for enrage bar. The one i use right now is fine but has annoying bugs and lacks some features
one that lets me anchor it and match witdth with essentials
chrome plover
Do you guys know addons for enrage bar. The one i use right now is fine but has ...
what is the one you have rn
valid pulsar
It lets me reskin the enrage bar, anchor it and match width. I think its the only addon that can do this right now not 100% sure though
hybrid wharf
Why not Rampage on your main rotation bar ?
And no need to show both reckleness and avatar because they share same cd but it’s a preference
valid pulsar
And no need to show both reckleness and avatar because they share same cd but it...
That is the layout i used in my wa pack before prepatch. Now that avatar is also affected by the cdr i could indeed remove one or the other
valid pulsar
Why not Rampage on your main rotation bar ?
There is no reason to have it on the bar
oblique trail
dont think thats a bug at this point
warm crag
<:her:1246582680225714236>
ping me again i dare you
oblique trail
@warm crag
warm crag
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/cooldown-manager-bars-only
ai generated thumbnail this MUST be a good addon
warm crag
<@164800371057754112> <:her:1246582680225714236>
now i dare you to post the her sticker and join vc more often than 2 times a year
warm crag
High banrate sticker
🪞
valid pulsar
ai generated thumbnail this MUST be a good addon
its not
cpu usage is pretty high with this enabled
valid pulsar
but its the only addon that skins the enrage bar i could find.
whatever
i just use blizzards default bar in the meantime i guess
tight roost
Arcui does as well, not sure about bcdm
terse meadow
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/iwt-improved-whirlwind-tracker-simplified
do we have something similar for enrage ?
feral ivy
what is this brown bar called again in the settings
logged in after updating my addons and this shit shows
nvm found it "resource bar"
clever belfry
https://tenor.com/view/horse-eating-gif-25793804
do not the hors
young swan
do we have something similar for enrage ?
not as far as I know
you'd have to get ArcUI or something similar
brittle crow
ai generated thumbnail this MUST be a good addon
im tired boss
white grove
The base cdm allows you to track enrage as a bar, which i prefer personally
stark sluice
Any intel how fury and thane/slayer will perform in raid?
undone flower
You will know the final answer on this the week after the race to world first, blizzard does post race tuning
young swan
Any intel how fury and thane/slayer will perform in raid?
good enough to get you a spot in the raid
charred panther
In aoe/MT build are we holding avatar/reckless to align w odyn?
smoky vale
i think with the new tierset you'd only hold the 4th of but idk about prepatch
also
you would only hold of not ava reck
those on cd
dark elbow
x d
rigid stirrup
Those notes are for tomorrow for the NA frogs?
undone zinc
yea patch 12.0.1
haughty carbon
a patch note is up ?
rigid stirrup
WE BACK TO SPINNIN
modest condor
remote bobcat
undone zinc
the wheel for reroll "which class should i play, because warrior is dead"?😂
oblique thistle
Yippee imminent demise change is coming to prepatch finally 🙂
edgy widget
x d
that's not new; they reduced AA by 25% several builds ago and another 30% in the last build, which is a total adjustment of 47.5%
edgy widget
overbuff it to shit
they actually buffed Furys AAs by similar amounts to everyone elses, but I think they forgot that Fury traditionally has a huge negative AA multiplier buried in the scaling aura, which got zeroed out early in the beta
we were also using Surge of Adrenaline more before they gutted Raging Blow builds 🫗
edgy widget
In aoe/MT build are we holding avatar/reckless to align w odyn?
no
lament mauve
I’ll give a shot on this channel, I’m new ish to fury warrior but was wondering if there was an addon that can have my rage bar, make a sound over a certain percentage or value? I have checked twin tops and there is no sound alert for warrior yet if one is coming out. Thanks in advance.
open mountain
with arcui you can change color 😄
rigid stirrup
I've been just having the resource bar in a visible spot. Afaik there aren't any like sound bytes you can use yet
young swan
yeah dont think theres anything that lets you do sound alerts for specific rage thresholds
lament mauve
OK cool. I was just making sure I wasn’t missing anything but I do like the idea of the bar changing color so I’ll check that out.
autumn smelt
soo do we get a hard nerf ?
modest condor
no
dense elbow
soo do we get a soft nerf ?
eager stirrup
Seems like a hard nerf as well as a shift in how things play to me. Can someone explain why that's wrong?
coarse nest
soo do we get a any nerf ?
covert coyote
soo do we get a hard ?
blazing acorn
slayer bt & sd is very strong
elfin hatch
looks like we are fucked up
floral belfry
Someone tell me how to play come wednesday, thank you
olive wraith
Bt on cooldown
young swan
Seems like a hard nerf as well as a shift in how things play to me. Can someone ...
nope
soft shift, no nerf
charred estuary
Bt on cooldown
Just like the lord intended
eager stirrup
soft shift, no nerf
This makes me feel better.
empty mirage
theres nothing more enjoyable than getting declined for +2s at 160ilvl
gotta get my gear up fs
icy bramble
hey, do I understand this right that we „multidot“ with rend in the slayer m+ build?
radiant plank
yeah press it once per pull
gusty cloak
everyone using Arc UI for resource bar?
feral ivy
nah i just do the math
young swan
everyone using Arc UI for resource bar?
yeah
potent thicket
whats' for fury st? avatar instead of bladestorm?
young swan
yeah
potent thicket
really?
young swan
yep
potent thicket
fair ,ty
potent thicket
xD
manic kite
Question about something that in guide on wowhead.
It's that delay just to make sure that we will always have rampage avail in case berserk is dropping ?
manic kite
Except that big glowing button telling me that rampage is ready and i had smash my enemy
young swan
i would recommend using a UI that doesnt include the physical rampage button as something you are tracking
use the rage bar instead
and turn "spell alert opacity" down in the options (or don't, this is personal preference)
manic kite
use the rage bar instead
Are weak auras working to get such thing?
young swan
ArcUI has a pretty customizable rage bar
manic kite
Will check it. Thank you for tip
white gate
So how much is Mountain Thane getting nerfed tomorrow? Is it still better than Slayer?
visual stump
soft shift, no nerf
Can someone explain this more to someone who is not a warrior?
Trying to help a friend not be doom and gloom thats just getting back into WoW and chose Fury Warrior.
We feel Fury will still be in a good spot with these changes?
young swan
yeah looks fun
damage is like
not insane tier, but its solid
kind of comes down to opinion in terms of gameplay, but I generally prefer fury when we're pressing BT on cooldown (which we are)
execute is strong mostly on its own again, which it hasnt been in a long time
visual stump
Thanks!
smoky vale
xantage
tidal beacon
how much of a nerf are we taking
olive wraith
Scroll up a little
quaint lion
With the patch of tomorrow ,is slayer above thane or still stick to thane?
smoky vale
With the patch of tomorrow ,is slayer above thane or still stick to thane?
it changes nothing i believe
sudden tusk
<@110993922691477504> cleste looks really funny
dude she starts with 4 stam
insanity
warm crag
did you see her floatiness
sudden tusk
did you see her floatiness
no
sudden tusk
-2.5 per cast
smoky vale
like 30 right
smoky vale
hmm
sudden tusk
also for thane you wana tclap every other gcd in aoe
sudden tusk
well TB has guarenteed lightning strikes that got buffed 100%
and do aoe as well
so you shouldnt ever cancel them
but its funny they do similar damage
warm crag
ya
warm crag
if you take the air vent from side lane to the bridge you go above the side buildings
sudden tusk
thats really high wow
warm crag
like a good celeste will be slippery af
sudden tusk
wana talk about unkillable
fucking venture
that character is cracked if you are good
warm crag
that is an overwatch character
sudden tusk
why do i keep calling holiday
smoky vale
what game is this
warm crag
idk if her ult didnt have the hitbox of a kitchen appliance id be a lot happier with facing her
sudden tusk
yeah can techniaclly counterspell parry it
could do with less hitbox or longer windup
sudden tusk
character is just obnoxious. barrel spam into gripping you across the map with stam regen and warp stone
dapper goblet
dude she starts with 4 stam
sudden tusk
back door man
dapper goblet
crazy 2 characters have released and silver ult is STILL NOT NERFED
warm crag
you will never counter buy her
dapper goblet
i could buy every counter and that champ will still bounce on it
warm crag
my tool of choice is venator ult applied to werewolf head
dapper goblet
ah yes
smoky vale
gm xeos
sudden tusk
crazy 2 characters have released and silver ult is STILL NOT NERFED
dude silver ult is fucking crazy. you actually just become god king scovald and tank everything
CD is also crazy short for its lvl 1 too
warm crag
Idk any game i go up againsr her i never have to deal with her cause i either kill her or i am 1v6 fucked
Depends on your hero roster ig
fleet sorrel
@frail fossil better game than retail
dapper goblet
dude silver ult is fucking crazy. you actually just become god king scovald and ...
buy metal skin and pray you get away before it falls off
smoky vale
can we do deadlock inhouses
dapper goblet
always steal vending machines
sudden tusk
yeah spongie been teaching me the tech
perfect timing for extra stats
also watched a few videos building around the 4.6k soul counts
my movement is still awful
smoky vale
i havent played since like week 2 of alpha...
like a year ago
wait more
it came out during undermine no?
sudden tusk
clever belfry
m*ba
smoky vale
j*b
smoky vale
!!!
clever belfry
mad.
smoky vale
anda what does the thingy on the right represent
left of j
or is thst just another way of saying summation
remote bobcat
multiplication
modest condor
it's like sum but with multiplication
remote bobcat
its 1 times 2 times 3
hope that helps
so this entire thing is
\sum^4_{i=0}i-\prod^3_{j=1}j = ( 0 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 ) - ( 1 * 2 * 3 ) = 10 - 6 = 4
remote bobcat
no
well yes
but u dont get it
physics exam is
premise -> apply rule -> result
modest condor
i guess in highschool not so much yet
remote bobcat
math exam is
premise -> assume u can apply rule -> prove you can apply rule -> apply rule
you have to fucking prove everything you use
in math
the higher u go
modest condor
i know, i went to university for that
smoky vale
whats the name of summation but multiplication symbol
remote bobcat
whats the name of summation but multiplication symbol
product symbol
idk
smth like that
smoky vale
so why give us aids and not do it as factorial
ig they want to do i and j
to give us different terms
remote bobcat
its mainly cuz u need to learn to use the symbol
modest condor
because just because this specific instance is the same as the factorial doesnt mean it always is
remote bobcat
since many identities depend on it
remote bobcat
because just because this specific instance is the same as the factorial doesnt ...
^this
smoky vale
because just because this specific instance is the same as the factorial doesnt ...
i have midterm next week
i cant wait to study while im playing tbc
or i just dont level and study
modest condor
if it had said 3j it would have been 3*6*9
smoky vale
if it had said 3j it would have been 3\*6*9
is that not factorial * 3 though?
modest condor
bruh
smoky vale
wait
remote bobcat
<:detective:912341312907378689>
you can have a function like this show up and u need to understand how that works that's why u learn that symbol now ig
modest condor
3!*3=6*3=18
3*6*9=162
smoky vale
i am 
modest condor
no that's me
modest condor
why would you wear latex while doing your homework
smoky vale
modest condor
back in my days we did our homework with pen and paper
smoky vale
it makes my assignment take 2x i think
remote bobcat
when i was actively turning in assignments in university we had a fifty fifty split of LaTeX users to Hand-Written
like right down the middle
like bro ..
🥀
smoky vale
it says we have to do our homeworks typeset
and i am not gonna be the guy doing it on googledocs
remote bobcat
and i am not gonna be the guy doing it on googledocs
overleaf is your friend
it even had an AI now
lol
smoky vale
overleaf is op
remote bobcat
dang bro u got me all nostalgic n shit checking my old overleaf assignments
earnest canyon
u failed as a warrior if ur doing math
modest condor
i wonder if i still have old assignments on my pc
remote bobcat
u failed as a warrior if ur doing math
u failed as a human if you don't know math
remote bobcat
i wonder if i still have old assignments on my pc
i just found this and lemme tell you i don't know anythign i wrote here 💯 🔥 🔥
ah wait i take that back partial derivatives
shits easy
modest condor
partial derivatives are ezpz
modest condor
i dont
smoky vale
hi give me an integral see if i can remember how to do it
modest condor
calc 2 was differential equations and fuck that shit
remote bobcat
hi give me an integral see if i can remember how to do it
Nah
smoky vale
i think for me it was calc 1 differentiation calc 2 integration
remote bobcat
Didnt that blue pen red pen asian math yter have an insane integral?
smoky vale
and then applying them
remote bobcat
That takes hours to solve?
earnest canyon
u failed as a human if you don't know math
i can do math but not with all the letters
smoky vale
math with letters is the only enjoyable math
remote bobcat
Math with numbers is shit
remote bobcat
math with letters is the only enjoyable math
Facts
earnest canyon
Math with numbers is shit
2+2 is 4, quik maff
remote bobcat
Once you learn your way around variables, everything else becomes shyte
smoky vale
you legit brute force it otherwise and learn nothing
modest condor
i remember a course at uni where you used imaginary numbers to solve integrals, i forgor what it was called
but it was wild
earnest canyon
i remember a course at uni where you used imaginary numbers to solve integrals, ...
were u on mushrooms....thats the only way id see imaginary numbers
iron portal
Wild imaginations
modest condor
it's why so many integrals have solutions with pi, because you use e^i thingy to solve it
remote bobcat
Or just do it like physicists where we see the dt in the integral as a multiplication so we just do dt * dx/dt to transform the integral from time based to space based
(Highly illegal but it works)
smoky vale
huh
remote bobcat
Transform it with the shimmy
smoky vale
we have now moved onto basic number theory in the lecture
remote bobcat
it's why so many integrals have solutions with pi, because you use e^i thingy to...
True
smoky vale
modest condor
oh, i think it was called contour integration
remote bobcat
we have now moved onto basic number theory in the lecture
Zeta functions..
remote bobcat
oh, i think it was called contour integration
You had an entire course on something like that?
smoky vale
oh, i think it was called contour integration
that looks horrific
remote bobcat
Wut
remote bobcat
Contour integrals are the same as normal integrals just slightly different rules but mostly works the same and you can transform them into eachother
Its kinda chill im ngl
modest condor
i mean
remote bobcat
Residuals, Cauchy
modest condor
when you start from the basics and have to work your way towards the final integrals by using proofs all along the way
like we werent just taught "here's how you do a contour integral"
remote bobcat
when you start from the basics and have to work your way towards the final integ...
Fair that shit is ass
I had to do that in math classes too yea ur right
Ig im spoiled by the simplicity of just accepting that it works in physics
🗿
I‘ll be real, math classes build character
modest condor
in physics you just assume that something is true because the math nerds already proved it all
in math you have to do the proofs
it's the same with something like linear algebra, in physics you just use the matrix, in my linear algebra courses it took us like 5 months before we even saw the first matrix
remote bobcat
When we had LinA we did all the proofs as assignments while they went over matrices and other stuff in the lectures
🥲
smoky vale
i think i might need glasses
remote bobcat
Maybe not all the proofs actually but for sure a lot
All the ones used in physics at least
modest condor
i did physics as well but all our math courses were with the math majors so i had to do all the pure math stuff
remote bobcat
i did physics as well but all our math courses were with the math majors so i ha...
same wtf
earnest canyon
what do you even use all this shit for
Like what do you use linear algebra for
modest condor
a lot of physics involves linear algebra
smoky vale
who can help me study english math
remote bobcat
what do you even use all this shit for
Like what do you use linear algebra for
the PC you are using right now uses linear algebra to compute
specifically graphics is very reliant on matrices
smoky vale
its a lot of matrix multiplication right?
remote bobcat
AI stores information as vectors and vectore spaces
remote bobcat
its a lot of matrix multiplication right?
yea
modest condor
oh speaking of matrix multiplication
at my uni they liked to give special relativity as a first semester course just to show people something cool and new
remote bobcat
Microwaves (the utility machine) wouldn't have been created or understood if it wasn't for microwave (the wave) energy distributions through Linear Algebra
modest condor
but it involved matrix multiplication
earnest canyon
specifically graphics is very reliant on matrices
isnt that matrix transformations? whats linear algebra? Linear implies to me that its simple (when its clearly not)
remote bobcat
at my uni they liked to give special relativity as a first semester course just ...
based
modest condor
and we didnt get matrices until our 2nd linear algebra semester
remote bobcat
isnt that matrix transformations? whats linear algebra? Linear implies to me tha...
Matrix transformations are linear transformations therefore it's part of linear algebra
remote bobcat
any function that maps vectors to other vectors while preserving vector addition and scalar multiplication counts as a linear transform
iirc
but yea
earnest canyon
yeah i dont remember, its been a loooong time
i dont remember linear algebra, but i do remember matrix transforms in college and then in graphics courses at uni
remote bobcat
i dont remember linear algebra, but i do remember matrix transforms in college a...
the main vector shenanigans you learned is linear algebra too
i suppose
earnest canyon
No clue, too long ago
sudden tusk
@warm crag dude her autos bouce off objects
they fucking aut otarget nearby thats nisane
brittle crow
i will never forgive riot games
i guess im a street fighter player again dawg what the fuck
dapper goblet
wind token
so true
wind token
fury isnt nerfed they just adjusted the profiles of things
jolly wind
Those r nerfs
olive wraith
Those r nerfs
What about all the buffs?
olive wraith
There’s other buffs too
wind token
There’s other buffs too
dont fall for the ragebait
olive wraith
dont fall for the ragebait
I’m not raging it’s okay
jolly wind
Nothing I’m saying is untrue
If speaking the truth is rage baiting or trolling then I am rage baiting 100%
I’m just trying to figure out what the plan is after these nerfs hit
wind token
man if only you could look it up in the discord kinda crazy
olive wraith
How much of a nerf is it big dog
olive wraith
Okay so how much of a nerf is it
wind token
man putting wrecking throw on my bar is so funny
winter shoal
I’m just trying to figure out what the plan is after these nerfs hit
Probably play the video game I would guess
jolly wind
Prob just reroll I reckon
modest condor
about 1% nerf
modest condor
simcraft
jolly wind
1% overall dps loss ?
modest condor
yes
jolly wind
From thane?
olive wraith
No from Colo
olive wraith
Colo
jolly wind
Since they buff bs
winter shoal
zach I don't know if you're aware of this but you can actually just run sims to get numbers on what spec to play
jolly wind
How do u do that
winter shoal
raidbots dot com
jolly wind
Purely for mplus tho
winter shoal
I think you might need to use mimiron to get the BS/ramp/SD changes
winter shoal
still use raidbots but on 5 targets instead of 1
warrior theorycrafters don't want you to know this one simple trick (real (not clickbait (the simple trick is using critical thinking)))
feral ivy
What’s this “we have to upload our ID” for discord thing I’m hearing about?
feral ivy
Another reason to hate kids
wary falcon
its to unblur nsfw
winter shoal
If you're looking at gooner material on discord
You should re-evaluate your life and how you got to that point
smoky vale
hi bigbowwl
feral ivy
Oh ok. So it just hides nsfw pics
olive wraith
TIL
smoky vale
you missed our 40m talk about math
feral ivy
I thought nsfw pics get blurred anyways
winter shoal
you missed our 40m talk about math
I saw like the last 2 messages but tbh I've forgotten all the math I once knew
I've forgotten 99% of the information I once knew in general
I have contracted severe brainrot
winter shoal
I need to get new glasses
winter shoal
Eye doctors are super chill
smoky vale
maybe 20
winter shoal
Mine was like yeah all good big dog you don't have like eyeball cancer or whatever
And I was like cool but actually I just need you to write down my prescription I wasn't worried about that at all
It took them like 10 mins to get a scan though bc I kept blinking
winter shoal
I'm 99% sure mine is
smoky vale
or low lighting when using computer
winter shoal
I'm looking at a monitor a few feet from my face like 14h a day
smoky vale
cluegi me too
olive wraith
I thought nsfw pics get blurred anyways
Probably can’t unblur them
winter shoal
Is it not covered by your health insurance or whatever
smoky vale
i imagine it is
winter shoal
Also like is getting glasses really worrisome?
I feel like it's a pretty normal and inconsequential thing
smoky vale
ok i wont worrya bout it
i know im gonna get lectured about being on the computer though
verbal steppe
How are we feeling about the new nerfs and buffs?
young swan
feels like it was breakdown tuning and not actual nerfs or buffs
south kayak
Yeah, it was breakdown tuning across the board
If we get actual buffs or nerfs, you're gonna see a lot more aura buffs/nerfs
sullen dove
i have to squint to barely see the board
yea u just get glasses tardo
I was shocked when I got them for the first time in I think 6th grade
or maybe that’s just when I started regularly using them
But like being able to see something without omega squinting like that one gif was kinda quirked up
how u be lookin
sullen dove
gio please shut the fuck up
🔁
sullen dove
3!\*3=6*3=18
3\*6\*9=162
yo watch the cook though? n! * n^n equals whatever the second thing you said is
at least it does for the 4 numbers I tried of 3 4 5 and 6
smoky vale
hi can we watch anime
smoky vale
alr 🙁
sullen dove
need to join a guild to get that mount man
find one that’s better than yours for me pls ty
sullen dove
I did one
smoky vale
where
sudden tusk
did you guild explode
sullen dove
o yea
young swan
o wow
smoky vale
rip big kez
sullen dove
infidelity Chad
smoky vale
i miss her
sudden tusk
sullen dove
bro got succubus charmed
smoky vale
not really
sullen dove
she was funny snd overall positive I think for us front facing
just like… not great at the game and then the other stuff came out…
💀
but yea no I mean like 80% of em were just cheeks
smoky vale
i was not involved during the otehr stuff
but yeah the uh
player skill in that guild
🙂
smoky vale
🙁
sullen dove
modest condor
at least it does for the 4 numbers I tried of 3 4 5 and 6
im confused what you even did to translate that to other numbers
sullen dove
idk but I felt like there had to be some puzzle to unlock
smoky vale
i think he put those numbers into the equation
sullen dove
and I grasped it in my head
sullen dove
no I just trial and errored that shit
but 3! * 3^3 is 3 * 6 * 9
and same 4! * 4^4 is 4 * 8 * 12 * 16
etc
smoky vale
swordish what anime can we watch
sullen dove
idk
smoky vale
wb the one i sent
young swan
watch magi
young swan
whats the word that came right after sinbad gio
smoky vale
profluge
young swan
there we go
sullen dove
it is 1:20 am
sudden tusk
magi was good
sullen dove
why do you still think I have classes
sudden tusk
but i felt like it came out really weird
sullen dove
idk tomorrow daytime prolly strange have to go to dmv early ish to get home afternoon to maybe get boosted through tyrant since we saw enrage and get a huge kff for me and 2 other friends
modest condor
yo watch the cook though? n! * n^n equals whatever the second thing you said is
3*1*3*2*3*3
(3*3*3)*(1*2*3)=3^3*3!
4*1*4*2*4*3*4*4
(4*4*4*4)*(1*2*3*4)=4^4*4!
checks out
modest condor
but that's only because i arbitrarily made it 3j in the example
could have made it 5j and then it wouldnt have worked
modest condor
yeah
modest condor
jdotb
sullen dove
huge fan of the jordan b peterson of wow
oblique trail
idk tomorrow daytime prolly strange have to go to dmv early ish to get home afte...
Noob
oblique trail
Sure bud
sullen dove
only 3 of us r friends playing in a sort of static ig idk if u call it that
oblique trail
I picked up picto and caster first time this tier and owned more than picto mains have their entire life (false)
sullen dove
but always 5 randoms is sus
i think i have picto down to like an exact science when i pull a boss enough to like perfectly have all the best spells possible in my cds
oblique trail
Its how me and my 2 dps friends progged all of this and last savage, and we got a week 3 clear mostly without too much issue
sudden tusk
ffxiv raiding is nice becuase you actually just engrain the entire fight/ rotation
sullen dove
almost always try to make sure to have 1 comet prepped to be able to use 2 in the window, have the 2nd beam saved since its 100 more potency than the first, and start my aetherhue chain on the 2nd spell so i dont cast blizzard in cds and get like 40-80 more potency there
sudden tusk
you dont even have to think about it most the time
sullen dove
the aetherhue thing doesnt always pan outsometimes if i have to move very cringely
but most of the time it works out
yea i mean i think thats like good and bad aspects
u pull enough times u have like a perfect rotation in mind every pull and kinda makes it easier but also kinda just makes it boring
like imo wow gameplay is still just so much better
reacting to procs and shit more often
i just feel like a zombie when playing ff
and like everyones obsession with like perfect play like a robot
i dont think theres like a "priority" at least for most ff classes its just like a strict immovable rotation
like when my reaper friend says he misses a gcd or 2 he acts like its the end of the world
and maybe it is for him i dont really know
oblique trail
Fun fact doing your dummy rotation gets you kills more often than minmaxing to a detriment
sullen dove
but think if the game is like that its just mid
oblique trail
i dont think theres like a "priority" at least for most ff classes its just like...
Only a few jobs has a priority
Like Dancer has one, because of procs
smoky vale
how can ff players not do sim dps
ik there isnt a robot
but ive seen logs of that game
and its crazy
sullen dove
biggest issue is just like having to move varying amounts
and like planning stuff around that
oblique trail
ik there isnt a robot
Because you can't sim a fight ever
sudden tusk
sim dps is basically impossible with fight design
sullen dove
like depending on which way the boss runs around the room he can either go clockwise or counterclockwise, i have to move like 5x as much one way vs the other
oblique trail
And ff fights are typically a lot more movement intensive than wow fights
sudden tusk
proper play means you will drop globals
sullen dove
and i do have spells i can cast while moving sort of but i have to be rdy for em
yea ff mechanics are waaay more about running around the room and standing on the right spots
than like actually doing mechanics from the boss
most of the time
like imagine running laps back and forth across the dimensius platform
while trying to do dmg
oblique trail
Playing picto especially is rough during bursts on some fights
Because of movement
smoky vale
sullen dove
i think these recent fights at least are pretty generous with downtime during 2 min windows
most of the time i can just stand and plant
1 rly annoying instance this tier is fire/watersnaking on 2nd boss
like 4:00 cd i think
i can do it to line up with everyone elses
smoky vale
so skill expression in 14 is movement and planning casts aroudn it
sullen dove
but have to like leave my circle and cast hammers and go back to it
probably mostly like that
certain classes rotations def harder than others i think
sullen dove
my main is p braindead spamming like the same 2 buttons over and over but there is a bit of flexibility in when i can do stuff
oblique trail
bro rotations cannot be hard in that game
Neither are wow rotations when you become average to above average at games like it
The difficulty is executing the rotations well while maintaining uptime and doing the mechanics
While also not griefing the mechanics
sullen dove
yea i mean feel like alot less punishing to make mistakes in wow in general
rotation mistakes at least
it doesnt rly matter if u hit the wrong button in wow if its like filler C vs filler A
but the fact that like a majority of the classes have on the dot 2 minute cooldowns that also give party wide buffs means u like, need to stack them to get the most benefit out of it and also means u kinda have to have the abilities you want to cast ready when everyone else is
they kinda wont wait for you
oblique trail
Hopefully next expac kills the 2 min meta
sullen dove
like sometimes for me to have my "optimal spells" in my cooldown window id have to push it back a cast or two and then my cd is desynced from everyone elses by like 3-4 seconds out of 20
and its def worse to cost your entire group 5% dmg for that amount of time during all of their cooldowns as well
vs you casting a spell that does like 2% more damage in your window
its like most of the dps in your raid have an aug evoker buff on a 2min cd
and you always want to line up all of them
the biggest thing i hate about picto is just motif casting
it just feels so slow and boring for like not that much payoff idk
should be regular spell cast time not heavy spell cast time
oblique trail
Its like that by design because you can do it whenever
sullen dove
its nice for a few fights with downtime
oblique trail
Unlike almost any other job
sullen dove
but otherwise its just like 10% of the fight ur doing 0 damaging spells
hard casting
"oh guys time to cast motifs for 10 seconds straight"
oblique trail
And your overall potencies are just very high baseline
sullen dove
yea executing the burst window for picto feels rly good
eternal sundial
I was a big fan of the fight making the rotation harder rather than it being hard baseline
sullen dove
just everything else about it kinda ugh