french
#fury
undone flower
Sry tbf I’m too dumb to know how to use AI to translate the image
remote bobcat
also how is the ranking based on wins, draws, losses and shit like GP, PF, PA and PD whatever those means
lmao
livid arch
Points for, points against, points differential. I assume with voting counts from head to head battles
summer quail
alot of these i can understand and then you just have "nain"
undone flower
It is 26 round of head to head battles, you have to vote nain (dwarf) vs Nelf, Nelf vs panda etc…
remote bobcat
i am once again reminded that french is a very bad language GaLiGrü
remote bobcat
Deutsche is not that much better
🫃 german is one of the major languages used in science i will not tolerate slander from people who don't know how to pronounce letters 🫃
undone flower
I know how to pronounce letters bc I live next to saarbrucken 🫃
remote bobcat
I know how to pronounce letters bc I live next to saarbrucken 🫃
congratulations you live near people known for incest
undone flower
I even know which village is the culprit
It is a French one on the border but they still talk german
remote bobcat
I even know which village is the culprit
it's not one individual village that's the culprit you're completely wrong about that. The joke stems from a comedian slandering the entirety of saarland, which is the state in which saabrücken is located if you didnt know german state names, making incest jokes based on the small gene pool differences due to the towns being particularly small in that region. The actual statistics aren't even significant enough to make it a real problem
undone flower
it was a joke... incest is a common stereotype of rural village/area everywhere
and saarland is small enough you can just say saarbrucken
junior oyster
Oddly specific question: Any Tauren fury warriors getting frozen animations while playing mountain thane?
tight roost
not tauren but i am getting frozen animations when playing both thane and slayer
alpine crag
Same here
junior oyster
just kinda stuck lookin like a dingdong lol
tidal marten
same
livid arch
I’ve kind of always got them on zandalari troll. It’s not recent either
echo rapids
Fury slayer multi target raid build taking avatar and prioritizing BT, my muscle memory can’t handle this
summer pecan
echo rapids
It does appear both hero trees prio BT now
gleaming crag
I think thats worth more than crit and haste
hollow quiver
do you have a string or a screen?
for talent tree
also does the nerf to RB applies to its enhanced version? (idr the name)
winter shoal
Yes
hollow quiver
meh
winter shoal
for talent tree
winter shoal
Those changes aren't on live
They're only on beta for now
Live talents aren't changing because of yesterdays tuning on beta
hollow quiver
oh yeah it's on 12.0.6
dim spindle
Oddly specific question: Any Tauren fury warriors getting frozen animations whil...
Getting that as Human, for the record.
At first I thought it was just after clappaing but it may be from more than that
winter shoal
Lots of animation things tend to break specifically around rampage with high haste
dim spindle
I certainly do have high haste. Had to drop it below 40% recently
More crit baby
(M+ brained)
Definitely going to be an adjustment dropping back down to 10-20%. Happens every expansion but I'm still going to complain a little.
Stuck human is more of a midgrade T pose. Lower case t pose you could say.
dim spindle
is weapon dmg better then 15 crit and haste?
Have you tried applying it and it worked? I got excited for a moment when I saw a +int leg armor that didn't seem to have an ilvl requirement at all, but alas... it did
On my warlock, btw
ruby loom
So we dont spec into BT spec atm? the changes not live yet?
echo rapids
So we dont spec into BT spec atm? the changes not live yet?
I think that’s correct
unreal onyx
gleaming crag
Have you tried applying it and it worked? I got excited for a moment when I saw ...
It worked
My limited exp with the nw changes has auto attack as my top ability which is crazy
median marsh
i am using sensi class resource bar for WW stacks, but sometimes i just dont see the 4 bars, and i am hitting even more then 1 target, is it bugged or what?
unreal onyx
hoooly I just logged in and was looking for legit 1h why I have a random countdown when in combat
and I found out the improved whirlwind tracker enabled it for literally no reason when updating
dim spindle
It worked
Weapon damage is always substantially better than any other stat so those might just be worth playing with
But that much better? hmm, not so sure
Probably a tiny increase if it isn't just a loss
The more the rusty gears in my brain turn the less I think it could be better, though
jolly wind
Lots of animation things tend to break specifically around rampage with high has...
yea ive noticed that my attack animation will randomly stop and ill be standing there with my weps out not attacking lol like animation wont go off but spell will
im assuming every1 has that issue its just a bug
sour glacier
so dumb question, in wowhead under M+ MT build, basically spam bloodthirst as priority rather than RB, correct?
jade cipher
i think when its all said and done avatar should be unplayable for slayer fury right?
when season comes you cant have 6 hero talents directly affecting bladestorm and not take it
echo rapids
i think when its all said and done avatar should be unplayable for slayer fury r...
I can’t imagine they let it be the choice
jade cipher
its very unsightly
next mica
am i being crazy or is the rotation rng being kinda nuts right now?
olive wraith
am i being crazy or is the rotation rng being kinda nuts right now?
Wdym
next mica
like sometimes all the right buttons sparkle other times i cant get a ravage to proc to save my life
on like the same segments
young swan
u mean sd proc?
ravage is feral..
the answer is no, not really
we're one of the lowest variance specs
thane can be a little bit rng, but its not like
that bad
alpine palm
I think we can agree that warrior is in a strange spot. Spending several talent points on Bladestorm and not taking it and not running wall stand out as very odd.
next mica
u mean sd proc?
not sd procs is the 1 thing i dont mean
young swan
then i have no idea what ur talking about
next mica
getting RB's
young swan
oh
i mean yeah its a bit rng but just pressing ramapge will give you your stacks back
and if you arent playing slayer then u hardly press rb anyways
next mica
ye but then u get in a weird loop where u struggle for rage for a bit
just ST slayer so far
jade cipher
follow the old fury rule for not rage starving yourself
out of recklenesss push your rage with spenders to 115 ish instead of sending rampage on 80 rage
undone flower
115 rage
jade cipher
dont use abilities outside of enrage to do so tho
just keep generating while you are enraged then use rampage
smoky vale
@mossy fox did you watch tenki no ko yet
mossy fox
<@235809563490779136> did you watch tenki no ko yet
nay
prolly wont until this weekend
smoky vale
undone flower
reincarnated as a water bottle!!!
verbal sluice
@mossy fox Mountain Thane or Slayer after patch?
sudden tusk
english
translated titles are funny becuase The Fragent Flower Blooms with Dignity is so much longer then Kaoru Hana wa Rin to Saku
sullen dove
both are mouthfuls but like literally who knows any of these shows by not their english names
if u tell me that second one ill just b like "the fuck u talkin about" and youre just expected to look it up instead of idk normally saying the english name
much greater chance to have heard of it then
like i vaguely know that that is some random romance this season or last or somethin
sudden tusk
im kinda a sucker for romance so i enjoyed it a lot
sullen dove
chadge
rare garnet
Anime names have become incredibly fucking dumb.
young swan
https://giphy.com/gifs/silo-sentenced-to-be-a-hero-teoritta-GBftY49VspM3I2URAi
i got thoroughly bored after the first 2 episodes
plot seems far too generic atm
gleaming crag
Weapon damage is always substantially better than any other stat so those might ...
Idk i feel 4 weapon dmg when we only have like what 60-90 is a decent amount.
gleaming crag
Anime names have become incredibly fucking dumb.
Anime became mainstream and the good stories/Manga got eaten up. Now we are left with shit.
plush zephyr
Anime names have become incredibly fucking dumb.
Become?
Go back to the OGs, names are goofy, or unique, and that’s a good thing.
plush zephyr
Anime became mainstream and the good stories/Manga got eaten up. Now we are left...
Are you implying that anime only recently got mainstream? And now it’s ruined because it’s popular and the writers don’t care?
Because studios haven’t changed their demand and the way things have been done, ever lmao it’s the same shit for the last 3 decades
gleaming crag
Indeed, its just a cash grab now. Look at dbz and how hard it fell.
plush zephyr
Dawg what the fuck ever
plush zephyr
Watch the first couple episodes of dragon ball, and then come back to me. Your nostalgia is crazy. OG DB writing is awful.
gleaming crag
You're entitled to your wrong opinion. Dragon ball was hilarious.
plush zephyr
Roshi asking to see Bulma naked first time they meet, when she’s like, 14?
It was good to watch when I was kid, as an adult, dragon ball is trash
gleaming crag
And thats Japanese culture for you ?
plush zephyr
No. Same reason I can’t get into Fairy Tale
gleaming crag
You learn the bad parts.
plush zephyr
Any anime that exploits girls under 18 I can’t watch, so it’s like 90% in the bin for me
10% some gold tho lmfao
sudden tusk
i got thoroughly bored after the first 2 episodes
theres some like background stuff so the world is kinda interesting, but for a Dark Fantasy action anime it fills the void
sullen tendon
did they change mythic lockouts
solar egret
Hey guys question, is anyone else experiencing fury being too fast for the servers to handle? Like man it feels like every button is delayed because you're pressing them so fast
not sure how really to explain it
but you press the button, and your character hasn't done it yet and you're already pressing the next ability, and then the previous one fires
sudden tusk
Probably has to do with haste, your spell que window, and the tempo of your button presses
if you spell que a cast, but you pressed the button .4 seconds ago and then it goes off it will feel clunky and unresponsive
solar egret
i dont have it with any other spec/class, its just fury
sudden tusk
but fury is a high haste spec so if your spell que window is high if you are mashing raging blow, then try to hit rampage or BT sometimes it will send a second raging blow becuase of the que
what other specs do you play?
sudden tusk
yeah i could see it being similar. It could just be a high haste thing becuase of the stat squish
solar egret
enhancement is fast-paced too, but it doesn't feel laggy
mossy pelican
I know what you mean it feels terrible and isn’t always consistent
sudden tusk
we have like 40-50% haste depending on gear, Plus Frenzy, plus another 15% if you take the haste enrage
solar egret
now imagine if someone uses bloodlust
sudden tusk
ive always hated variable hatse becuase it leads to clunky game feed
solar egret
😭
sudden tusk
its prob just an overabundance of haste, though i dont know how much additional haste enhance gets from its rotation
mossy pelican
Tbh usually feels great during lust i just chalked it up to lag
sudden tusk
but if i HAD to guess its just becuase of the haste/ variable nature of it with the class. Or could just be prepatch bugs and woes who knows!
solar egret
hope its gonna be better in midnight..
sudden tusk
we will lose haste going into the new expansion becuase of the stat stuff, but if you are curious id try messing around with you Spell Que window a little bit and see if it feels more responsive to you
i think the default is around 400
solar egret
? its someting you can change?
sudden tusk
? its someting you can change?
yeah heres an article you can read up on it also gives you console commands to change them though the chat box
solar egret
ive never heard about this, is it a new thing?
sudden tusk
nope
here is a timestamped video about hopeful talking about spell que window as well if you are interested in that
solar egret
thx!
peak pine
Is fury favoring BT or RB now?
sudden tusk
with the changes both hero talents will play the exact same prioritizing BT once the beta changes make it to live servers
peak pine
ty
cobalt kernel
for now isnt it rb slayer bt thane?
sudden tusk
yeah
cobalt kernel
wanted to double check cause lowkeyly i just dont understand the spec anymore
olive wraith
How long has it been since you played?
cobalt kernel
been playing, just cant understand the specs identity cause autos being top dmg in st and no jugg (for the better)
cobalt kernel
careful dont mention bleeds around that one guy
olive wraith
Oh the crazy #1 fury player?
cobalt kernel
mr thinker
rare garnet
Spell queue window 6767
tulip swallow
What can I drop in the AOE build to get ER while bricking my damage as little as possible
keen hamlet
but you press the button, and your character hasn't done it yet and you're alrea...
this will always and forever be a problem it will never not be like this because blizzard
olive wraith
What can I drop in the AOE build to get ER while bricking my damage as little as...
I recommend grabbing stance mastery instead
echo rapids
I recommend grabbing stance mastery instead
It’s good but is it that good?
olive wraith
It’s better than ER
echo rapids
It’s got a different DR profile, it would depend on the source
olive wraith
No cooldown
echo rapids
Does nothing if a single attack isn’t over 20% of your hp
Which to be fair is a lot of raid mechanics
olive wraith
Do you really need to mitigate something that does less than 20%
echo rapids
Do you really need to mitigate something that does less than 20%
I mean there are plenty of situations where you are taking number of smaller hits from different sources
olive wraith
Good thing d stance is also good for that too
echo rapids
Going fight by fight in mana forge and I think its a mixed bag
Stance matter does give you that increased consistent safety
edgy widget
Do you really need to mitigate something that does less than 20%
funny enough, due to the way Stance Mastery works, it's actually 17%
and if you have Warpaint, it's 15.3%, because the threshold is calculated pre-mitigation
so if you know the hit is coming, and you layer CDs or have various minor externals active, you can very reliably lower the damage threshold to 10% or even less
thorny abyss
just came back to wow and we got gutted ? am i lucky ?
edgy widget
Fury didn't get gutted
and Arms was already in the trashcan so it doesn't really matter lmao
thorny abyss
lol
edgy widget
they're just getting individual numbers where they want, it's pretty standard stuff tbh
thorny abyss
it's been a while since the last time i played just noticed that has some big diff
in DF i had a lot of fun with fury
tulip swallow
if we're bad enough they will use the 3% aura buffs until morale improves
echo rapids
so if you know the hit is coming, and you layer CDs or have various minor extern...
Wow that’s kind of wild
edgy widget
yeah it's extremely powerful, the offensive bonus is pathetic though
edgy widget
just /cancel fort
echo rapids
We will be super tanky if we end up able to take ER as well
spring pumice
Would yall say Fury War or Havoc is better for survivability in random pug bgs?
spring pumice
Ok, ty
frank summit
guys, how we looking
for the coming changes on 10th
give me something good
PVE wise
young swan
looks fine
jolly wind
Reroll fury is cooked
rare garnet
Just gonna lock in thane and vibe
olive wraith
How is it cooked lol
jolly wind
No dmg now these nerfs will cook the spec
Idk what they were thinking when surv hunter devour dh unholy dk do way more damage than fury ever could
Just reroll to one of those specs I just mentioned
deft palm
hows fury looking in the beta?
winter shoal
hows fury looking in the beta?
brittle crow
has anyone tried to do visions since prepatch
they feel god damn impossible
even as prot
echo rapids
Thane is such a vibe
indigo arch
I'm so glad that it doesn't have ravager now, feels good
tidal beacon
do we prio bt or rb in the prepatch as thane
jolly wind
Bt
light nova
is thane looking to be dominant on beta right now as well?
young swan
tough to tell, we just got a bunch of balance changes
heard some people saying there were some slayer dungeons
sullen sphinx
with the changes both hero talents will play the exact same prioritizing BT once...
Is this true for single target ?
jade cipher
yeah and it makes sense, you spend all of last season spamming raging blow, its a new expansion, rotation should change
if you have rend, deep wounds and odyns fury as your bleeds, bloodborne should show some real value if its 100% uptime
sudden tusk
Is this true for single target ?
when the beta changes make it in yes
hushed ocean
Hello, do you guys still have issue when using Sensei ressources bar for IW stacks during bladestorm+Recklessness ? it shows stacks consumed even if they're not.
tardy hare
Hey guys! After the patch dropped, I don’t have any class WeakAuras set up and it’s been pretty inconvenient 😅
Do you have any recommendations?
unreal onyx
I use the improved whirlwind tracker and basically everything from Luxthos youtube vid
dawn moon
Kinda new to warrior, what is go to build and what addons you suggest? 🙂
analog matrix
Hello morning, is fury good on midnight
Feels good atm, but changes will come
analog matrix
Kinda new to warrior, what is go to build and what addons you suggest? 🙂
For m+ for fury thane , raid fury slayer, don’t Play Arms xD
dawn moon
nah i dont like arms so much, is there any guide u suggest to follow, of talents?
analog matrix
@dawn moon Look up critcake , he is a Warrior goat
But he likes Arms more then fury but still Play Both , depends which is better in m+
dawn moon
can i check his armory or he got any site i can follow and read?
mossy fox
But he likes Arms more then fury but still Play Both , depends which is better i...
the other way around
mossy fox
this is true I've been slacking
sullen sphinx
this is true I've been slacking
i know because i checkled with quite hype when i decided to play warrior next xpac and got really sad when i saw your last video was 4 month olds ( rather than the lates one which you talked about upcoming midnight changes ) 😄
sullen sphinx
Ye Check his armory or discord
btw what is armory ?
quartz cairn
which one should i choice for fury warrior ?
dense elbow
which one should i choice for fury warrior ?
All depends on what info you are trying to get from it. Patchwerk is great to find a good ST or X targets set up.
Useful for raid especially, as you often hit one big dude.
For m+ you adapt sims based on the question you want answered
gleaming siren
@smoky vale is @flat river
dawn moon
Any here can help me with some build setup as warrior? cant really find what i need . :/
upbeat lantern
I’ve been using Luxthos UI and have really been loving it
dawn moon
oh ok, but talents wich can i follow? maxroll wowhead icyveins dno wich is the best of em?
upbeat lantern
I think Archimitrios does both wowhead and icyveins so use either
Both have builds for Midnight PrePatch
I use wowhead personally
dawn moon
ok cause when i go in under pre patch it says mountain thane for everything?
compact siren
<@335579026259312641> is <@451392607495520257>
That’s true
bitter palm
the other way around
sl critcake wouldn't say this..
tidal marten
Hey can someone help me with the rotation different between slayer and than ? do we have fix rotation or prio list?
olive jetty
Maybe someone can help me with a sanity check. Got 2x crit embellishments. Sim says 2x focusing lens is a damage gain (0,6%). Anyone has some experience?
warm crag
ok cause when i go in under pre patch it says mountain thane for everything?
where are you seeing this? wowhead prepatch guide makes a distinction for raid st/aoe and m+ https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/talent-builds-pve-dps
warm crag
Maybe someone can help me with a sanity check. Got 2x crit embellishments. Sim s...
unsure if sims are even working for prepatch, its kind of mickey mouse anyways
better save your gold for midnight
dawn moon
where are you seeing this? wowhead prepatch guide makes a distinction for raid s...
If u go in under pre patch
warm crag
probably copied wrong if you look at the cheat sheet at the top of that very page or the link i sent, it correctly links slayer specs for raid spec and thane for m+
its kinda whatever for prepatch anyways pick which one is more fun to you
dawn moon
ok thanks 🙂 sorry for disturb you:)
kindred cloud
fury looking good on midnight?
compact knot
fury looking good on midnight?
I think it looks pretty solid damage wise
compact knot
But for me it has lost its fun a bit
Tclap hits harder then tblast as thane (bad design), the hero talent centered around bladestorm its BARELY a increase to take bladestorm for at max level (its currently a dps loss to take bladestorm in prepatch on ST)
warm crag
doubt these will hit midnight
compact knot
Hero talents are ass, apex is ass, and we have the same old x buffs y talents that we have had for 6 years now.
compact knot
doubt these will hit midnight
I'd hope not but idk have you even let either of those things even happen in the first place
Atleast arms is in a much better spot imo
warm crag
I'd hope not but idk have you even let either of those things even happen in the...
its like triple the workload to balance stuff in a way that makes them make sense during prepatch, leveling and then when you hit 90 or whatever next level cap is
i see why they dont care about it, the hardest content right now is not lining up 6 people in a row on fractilus so its kinda whatever anyways
kindred cloud
i didnt play WW was it fun to play with fury? hero talents skill animations?
i tested shaman wow ehancment animations are peak
warm crag
its alright the animations havent changed much over the years so warrior mostly uses the baseline racial animations
echo rapids
Bladestorm is about as good as it gets for our animations although spear got a bigger graphic
coarse nest
Die spear die!
echo rapids
Spear looks cool at least
mossy pelican
I miss long bladestorm
modest condor
the other way around
member when crit was an arms main
analog matrix
the other way around
Oh okay 🤭
analog matrix
btw what is armory ?
On raider io
dusk dawn
Is anyone that uses the addon called Improved Whirlwind Tracker having issues? Mine just is not working since the last update
coarse nest
I used it Tuesday without any issue, can’t speak for any other updates past that if some are released
dusk dawn
I used it Tuesday without any issue, can’t speak for any other updates past that...
Thanks. I found the culprit. Was a small addon called Clickable Raid Buffs by funki. Which sucks cause I love that addon
coarse nest
Thanks. I found the culprit. Was a small addon called Clickable Raid Buffs by f...
Ahh shoot that’s always a bummer, at least you figured it out!
dusk dawn
Yeah and actually figuring it out I went and checked his discord. looks like he wont be developing the addon anymore. So I was losing it anyway
fast mural
do those class changes mean specs are gonna be the same as beta ?
thick fossil
It's not gonna matter much. As soon as our toolkit turns out to be good, it will be nerfed into the grave again.
As it looks right now, Arms is drowning (so no change), Fury will sort of hold its own till its deemed too strong. Which will see Bladestorm nerfs, or something to prevent AoE and ST together.
While I agree we can't be great at both, they just constantly over swing one way or the other for the first half of an expansion.
young swan
ok so after the new changes which spec is going to be a lil better
arms sucks
young swan
what
u mean hero talents?
they're essentially equal as of right now; thane is a little bit behind in ST, slayer a little behind in aoe
verbal steppe
macros for skills
like for recklessness i have to use avatar and odyns fury aswell
young swan
i use macros for every ability so that I can change their icon
thick fossil
trying to forget you're a warrior?
verbal steppe
i use macros for every ability so that I can change their icon
and what ui do u use?
young swan
my own
verbal steppe
i see
young swan
<:keks:936231610850897992> trying to forget you're a warrior?
i just prefer different icons for my stuff
verbal steppe
if u wanna see it
and how do i copy it i cant quite use the edit mode
young swan
there isnt exactly an easy way
i use bartender for the core cd's and arcUI for the rage bar, enrage and buff tracking
rare garnet
if u wanna see it
Demonic
young swan
its a pretty normal UI
rare garnet
i use macros for every ability so that I can change their icon
Replace the in game icons in the files
young swan
why would I do that
young swan
?
the only time i care about them is for cd tracking
why would I care about them in the spell book
or on my keybind bars that are hidden
or in the talent tree
bitter palm
i use macros for every ability so that I can change their icon
same
exe has condemn icon
condemn icon owns
young swan
condemn icon is sick
bitter palm
i dont like how cleave is green
ig blue would be too similar to ms
but wrecking throw icon makes a lot more sense for cleave
too late ig
echo rapids
i dont like how cleave is green
Always hated the green never made sense
bitter palm
ye just a remnant of vanilla
smoky vale
bitter palm
ms icon has weight behind it
same with wrecking throw
i really like flag icon
flagellation*
dense elbow
earnest heart
I miss Condemn's sound effect
fading sky
Why does cleave and ms not go same way?
fading sky
I miss Condemn's sound effect
I go to shadowlands just to condemn some mobs
bitter palm
i just wish warrior visuals were more striking
cleave should fucking obliterate everything in its path
same with ms and exe
echo rapids
Glyphs for better animations or graphics are so under utilized
still laurel
any idea how to see the enrage buff on the sides of my char ?
it was a WA before blizz nuked them
winter shoal
Can probs use arcui for it but it won't look the exact same
echo rapids
Can probs use arcui for it but it won't look the exact same
Arcui is nice, you get a lot of the WA customization back but it’s got performance issues for me
fading sky
cleave should fucking obliterate everything in its path
I thimk warrior has enuff visuals
verbal steppe
Do u guys think fire mage would do more dps than fury warrior?
winter shoal
🔮
Historically mage has been meta more than warrior has been, but it's really an apples to oranges type situation
verbal steppe
Isee
verbal steppe
Historically mage has been meta more than warrior has been, but it's really an a...
What about balance druid?
winter shoal
In almost all cases, playing a class well will matter more than how strong they are on paper
If you are very good at warrior and only okay at another class, you'll probably do more damage on the warrior regardless of how meta either class is
trail bane
But of course its worth playing something youre not great at if you want to get better at it
verbal steppe
Im thinking to change to something more flashy i guess, but i kinda want the easy skills as warrior has
trail bane
The difference between someone who has played a class for 10 years and someone who has been playing a class for 3 seasons isnt going to be enormous (if all other experience in the game is the same)
verbal steppe
I see
trail bane
The main problem with swapping to meta classes is that people tend to do it for one season and then swap again
And it will be an uphill battle to perform at a high enough level within one season to feel like you are playing well.
sullen dove
If you are very good at warrior and only okay at another class, you'll probably ...
s3 shadowlands destro lock
so peak
1 button rotation
fading sky
Chaos bolt
dim spindle
Feels bad, though, because it could be Rain of fire
winter shoal
s3 shadowlands destro lock
Didn't play then so I'm not legally required to acknowledge you are correct and I am incorrect
echo rapids
Im thinking to change to something more flashy i guess, but i kinda want the eas...
Honestly for all the zug zug memes fury warrior feels like it’s probably on the more challenging side of specs to play now with midnight
winter shoal
also I said "probably" so gg
winter shoal
Honestly for all the zug zug memes fury warrior feels like it’s probably on the ...
this is a crackhead type take
verbal steppe
Honestly for all the zug zug memes fury warrior feels like it’s probably on the ...
I played him in bfa and shadowlands
For me is not that hard, i kinda see hard other specs xd
fading sky
Arms deffo harder now
echo rapids
this is a crackhead type take
Rage, enrage duration, WW stacks, dynamic cooldowns, a fairly fluid priority system
verbal steppe
But im not sure if i wanna change 🙁
echo rapids
There’s more going on there than quite a few dps specs
fading sky
Rage, enrage duration, WW stacks, dynamic cooldowns, a fairly fluid priority sys...
I mean with bt being prio enrage never issue
And rage just dont cap
Fury is very straight forward and easy.
Fun as well
echo rapids
I mean with bt being prio enrage never issue
This isn’t always the case
echo rapids
Go play hunter or frost mage or destro lock it’s a vacation
fading sky
I can only play melee
winter shoal
Rage, enrage duration, WW stacks, dynamic cooldowns, a fairly fluid priority sys...
I haven't run the numbers for beta yet but current fury you can literally press any of [rampage, RB, exe] and do within 5% of sim dps regardless of rage, exe conditions, etc
as long as you maintain enrage*
dense elbow
I haven't run the numbers for beta yet but current fury you can literally press ...
says, no 
fading sky
Bt = reap
winter shoal
Things like cheesing enrage duration and delaying rampage are like 1% optimizations at most
fading sky
So we bt
echo rapids
So bt > over all
It’s not that way on live and is a minor turning pass from again not being thst way
winter shoal
<:reap:1412574979517583473> says, no <:peepoBlush:818323879315505233>
yeah this is for st I should clarify
fading sky
It’s not that way on live and is a minor turning pass from again not being thst ...
Is on beta
dense elbow
Who cares about ST
fading sky
They have said tjey want bt on cd
winter shoal
Who cares about ST
Weekly vault raidloggers (me)
fading sky
And rb 20% nerf bt 10% buff did tjat
dense elbow
If you care for your vault runs, ask for OF and BS buffs
Make vault runs GREAT again!
winter shoal
I'd take OF buffs
fading sky
Bs. Uff
winter shoal
I'd rather play thane in M+ than slayer tbh
fading sky
Why not both
verbal steppe
Im wondering if bladestorm is worth to play atm
fading sky
Is not
winter shoal
BS should be buffed just because not taking BS as slayer is a catastrophic design failure
echo rapids
It’s not but that seems very likely to be fixed
winter shoal
echo rapids
Slayer tree makes no sense without it
winter shoal
Eventually it probably will
winter shoal
But don't forget that slarms played with ravager instead of BS for like 2 weeks in LoU before they fixed it
fading sky
In st
fading sky
But don't forget that slarms played with ravager instead of BS for like 2 weeks ...
Was good times
echo rapids
But don't forget that slarms played with ravager instead of BS for like 2 weeks ...
Arms is even more cursed than fury
rare garnet
<:blizzdesign:745704462613741648> If you care for your vault runs, ask for OF a...
Nah, TC buffs please. I don’t wanna hope the tank pulls big I wanna always slam. I’m addicted to the clap now.
dense elbow
Yeah, I dont want the clap, I will slay 
rare garnet
I want clap so big it’s made #1 above everything. BT up? Clap. SD proc? Still clap. Full rage bar? Believe it or not, clap. We have the best AOE, because of clap.
olive wraith
Nah, TC buffs please. I don’t wanna hope the tank pulls big I wanna always slam....
I hope you mean tb
rare garnet
I hope you mean tb
I meant why I said and I said what I meant.
olive wraith
Mad take
rare garnet
rare garnet
Mad take
If clap is #1 I always press clap. Clap is clap. And I don’t have to count to 4 cause always improved WW stacks, I’m a clap addict.
olive wraith
If clap is #1 I always press clap. Clap is clap. And I don’t have to count to 4 ...
Clap shouldn’t ever be higher than blast
Has nothing to do with ww stacks
rare garnet
Clap shouldn’t ever be higher than blast
Oh ffs, I mean the button. Fine… TB > TC > everything else.
void tree
Am I trippin or what? If you can TB then you cant TC bc TC becomes TB
rare garnet
Fair. Didn’t realize we were differentiating that hard. They’re the same button.
olive wraith
Am I trippin or what? If you can TB then you cant TC bc TC becomes TB
Yes but there’s a problem on beta right now where clap does higher natty damage than blast
void tree
wooooooooah lol wth
rare garnet
Cancelaura goes hard now luuuulz
void tree
thats incredibly wild
olive wraith
Cancelaura is still a meme, you’ll still want to hit tb
young swan
Cancelaura goes hard now luuuulz
no it doesnt
olive wraith
How?
rare garnet
You said TC does more damage. I’ve been bamboozled
olive wraith
It does
rare garnet
Can we not cancelaura then?
olive wraith
You can but you don’t want to
young swan
u would do less damage
tblast does less damage but tblast guarantees a lightning strike
olive wraith
Tb has talent benefits for things aside from damage
rare garnet
….
olive wraith
Extending avatar, ground current
rare garnet
That doesn’t matter if blast still has other effects by pressing blast that cause the press of blast to be higher then
void tree
So Tb on its own does less dmg but with the lightniing strike and the other talent benefits its still better? Or nah?
olive wraith
Literally said clap has higher raw damage
And that cancelaura is a meme
I also said you still Press tb
So where was the lie
rare garnet
Discussing raw damage is silly. Whatever. Now I’ve been informed. You still lie.
young swan
So Tb on its own does less dmg but with the lightniing strike and the other tale...
correct
young swan
Discussing raw damage is silly. Whatever. Now I’ve been informed. You still lie.
i mean its not silly
why does a proc deal less damage than the ability its enhancing
rare garnet
I have a weapon in Elden ring. It deals 345 physical damage. I change it to blood. It does 292 physical damage and now also bleeds. You don’t say it does less damage because the bleed doesn’t count and the physical is lower. Your skill upgraded, its base damage lost some juice, and in exchange it does all the other shit now.
That’s the best way I can explain why I personally think it’s fine and doesn’t matter but we don’t need to agree.
fading sky
Discussing raw damage is silly. Whatever. Now I’ve been informed. You still lie.
I like raw dmg
fading sky
I have a weapon in Elden ring. It deals 345 physical damage. I change it to bloo...
I mean we wont, but it is silly, that an empowered anythin does less raw dmg
young swan
I have a weapon in Elden ring. It deals 345 physical damage. I change it to bloo...
okay but tclap can proc strikes too
so it doesnt even necessarily have that unique aspect to it
the only thing it 100% has over tclap is extended avatar duration
boreal solstice
hey guys just came back to the game a week ago and guild is taking me to mythic nexus king tonight--i know the raid is a meme at this point but was hoping someone could let me know if I should go thane or slayer, I see it's slayer on lorrgs but most of those fights were before prepatch i think unles im just reading it wrong
fading sky
Still is
boreal solstice
Oh okay, my gear is turbo dookie though I'm mostly here just to round out a comp, would thane do better at keeping me not dead
or still not worth
i dont mind either hero build just curious
undone flower
Every boss are ST, bc adds last 0.5sec - the DH council
boreal solstice
Ah gotcha, fair
undone flower
So slayer it is
boreal solstice
Thank you
undone flower
If your group intent is to skip platforms on nexus king, you can go full ST, no whirlwind
boreal solstice
realistically I prob go full ST anyways cause it's likely my best contribution to just do prio dam, everyone has 30 ilvl on me basically so I'm sure I'll get almost nothning in on adds before theyre btfo'd
undone flower
If p2 last (when they are 2 targets) , you might want to take ww talents tho
echo rapids
I have a weapon in Elden ring. It deals 345 physical damage. I change it to bloo...
This is fair but in general in wow, when you have an ability that you can use and then that ability can proc to be changed, it’s usually a clear enhancement of that ability. I’m struggling to think of another core rotation attack that that can be transformed by a proc to deal less damage but overall more damage from some other things.
boreal solstice
They haven't done the fight before so I'm sure there will be some liimit testing, we got the DH bosses for their first time on tues
undone flower
Yes just think : if you see the full part with the dude riding his dragon and doing beams, take ww talents
boreal solstice
Got it, thanks you sir
undone flower
The platform skip (if your group want to) is to just focus the king at this moment, so you can drop those talents
boreal solstice
Are you guys using the base UI to track sudden death? or is there a good addon out
sudden tusk
Dude half the Capybara gifs are AI and i cant find the watermelon, OR the I Pull Up capybara in the gif search anymore
its actually over
@gleaming siren do you have the capybara watermelon eating gif
its alive
edgy widget
I have a weapon in Elden ring. It deals 345 physical damage. I change it to bloo...
tbf by Elden Ring math, infusing often does end up doing less since split damage profiles are subject to multiple forms of damage reduction
but I get what you're trying to say 😄
honest trail
Are you guys using the base UI to track sudden death? or is there a good addon o...
What do you need from an addon to track?
boreal solstice
What do you need from an addon to track?
I'ma ctually good now thanks, forgot execute lights up when SD procs so just moved a solo bar with it on
honest trail
Stacks appear on the base action bars with stacks numbers + the cooldown manager can double down on that info
If needed
Yeah current Fury Exec is pretty easy
If available, press it
Lighting or not
Lighiting just means it's over 35% target hp with SD
But even under that you press it on cd, it's highest prio after keeping enrage up
boreal solstice
yeah no im fine in execute range i just was struggling to track the SD procs without tellmewhen which I used to use for it
honest trail
Just press the button whenever you can 😄
covert blaze
https://tenor.com/view/this-cant-be-real-capybara-watermelon-eating-sped-up-gif-...
ravenous creature
keen kindle
Guys should I just submit to my old ways and reroll fury again
gleaming spear
Guys should I just submit to my old ways and reroll fury again
yes
rare garnet
Guys should I just submit to my old ways and reroll fury again
yes
fallen ginkgo
Guys should I just submit to my old ways and reroll fury again
No (yes)
sullen dove
ravenous creature
his gluttonous behavior will be his undoing
sudden tusk
perfect
gleaming siren
It's actually fucked up how many gifs I have saved
I had to scroll through at least 50 to find that
earnest canyon
It's actually fucked up how many gifs I have saved
Are they all capybaras
gleaming siren
This is the most recent one
I think at least one would get me banned from most discords
median umbra
at the club. straight up jorkin it.
and by it. I mean my lizard
earnest canyon
I think at least one would get me banned from most discords
post it here and find out
warm crag
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1456739652177231973/p...
sick fucks like you need to be locked up
compact siren
vernal mulch
guys quick question, do slayers take bladestorm or not? the right side of our hero talent tree seems to be about bladestorming but the talent build takes avatar?
candid sorrel
We take ava - specially in prepatch
vernal mulch
oh wow okay
why is that?
but we do take bladestorm for aoe/cleave right?
along with improved whirlwind and without enraged regeneration
oh lol
i assume it doesnt sim well or something?
eager thorn
i assume it doesnt sim well or something?
Stinky damage
high sedge
fading sky
Beta buffs that is
Keep in mind avatar aligns with reck. And is rly made for fury once they put it on am🤣
Classic blizzard mess
warm crag
guys quick question, do slayers take bladestorm or not? the right side of our he...
look at the hero talents we don't talent right now, they also are bladestorm related iirc
rare garnet
I love all the red lined slayer talents when I drop BS. Makes me giggle.
Is slayer still avoiding BS at beta or is this some low level prepatch silliness
dense elbow
For minmax ST you still take avatar. For m+ BS got an arguable lead
rare garnet
Interesting. I’m getting pretty clap pilled but interesting.
chrome summit
So bs is better mplus now? Felt like fury slapped in mplus even with avatar atm :p
winter shoal
So bs is better mplus now? Felt like fury slapped in mplus even with avatar atm ...
The bladestorm buffs (and the SD reap change, which is probably a bigger deal anyways) aren't live on retail yet
young swan
So bs is better mplus now? Felt like fury slapped in mplus even with avatar atm ...
BS was always better for m+
avatar slayer is purely a ST thing
warm crag
@sudden tusk did you see venator
sudden tusk
That sharpshooter bug isn't gonna last the afternoon
Fixed by the time I get home amen
@warm crag
warm crag
That sharpshooter bug isn't gonna last the afternoon
its been live for literally 20 hours
and i dont think sharpshooter alone is making him strong he already nukes for 1k+ with medium investment
sudden tusk
Him, venture, and mo all need a slap
They keep being my boy beebop there will be blood
sudden tusk
I'm still learning a ton about the game. Didn't realize you got scaling bonuses just from item investment per category
warm crag
yeah 4.8k is insanely important to hit
warm crag
holiday?
sudden tusk
Yeah
warm crag
shes good but i dont think shes broken
although i think the game has a massive cc problem and needs insane dr on repeated cc
sudden tusk
Mo doesn't need a nerf he's just annoying
Well they nerfed like debuff reducer to have no spirit res
warm crag
but debuff reducer builds into spellbreaker so its kinda neutral
warm crag
idk i just think its funny they printed a character that does everything vindicta does but better
sudden tusk
Also enduring speed required on everyone because it's base movespeed
Might need some more items in the pool could be interesting
warm crag
many characters dont build enduring speed wdym
sudden tusk
It's a crazy good investment who doesn't build it?
sudden tusk
Like I said I'm still in big learning mode haven't played in a while
Silver my beloved
Mina is kinda crazy that character does a ton of damage
warm crag
its a really weird damage pattern you cant really assassinate without ult
sudden tusk
Though it's hard to actually judge power levels when most of my games are stomps
Finally having decent back and forth matches recently the MM is kicking up
warm crag
what rank you sitting at
sudden tusk
Haven't found a good website for stats
I have no idea
I'm becoming a real human and stopped rushing echo shard
warm crag
mina is weird apparently her global winrate is 45% but i think shes still completely broken post nerf
warm crag
I have no idea
theres an option ingame that shows ranks somewhere
im assuming witchmail bebop is still disgusting
character has been nerfed again and is still outrageously broken to the point of getting banned and picked in pro matches
sudden tusk
It's really good I've been playing like punchbop
Surprised witch isn't catching a nerf it's crazy good
You can force reset spells by only keeping one in cd
warm crag
curse shuts it down for the same investment
warm crag
Surprised witch isn't catching a nerf it's crazy good
no shoutout for alerting you to its existance...
sudden tusk
Yeah. Like I said I dont think my rank is super high I've only seen people but counter spell like once
My games end before I buy it half the time
warm crag
eh you dont see counterspell in the higher ranks either
sudden tusk
Well I was still echoshard bop at the time
warm crag
they're not mutually exclusive
sudden tusk
You can early play around cspell by just not sharding
ember apex
i'll be mutually exclusive with u
sudden tusk
My movement is also bad still. Not diagonally dodging enough
ember apex
i've always liked ur movement
warm crag
spamming walljumps is the true skillgap
sudden tusk
Watching the night shift tourney going oh I'm not even playing the game
warm crag
watch the first from the bo3 of the EU section from this week
i forgot who played i think it was abrahams vs someone else
something with W in the name
its absolute cinema
sullen dove
lowkirkenuinely
warm crag
@sudden tusk oh sharpshooter etc are already fixed
sudden tusk
<@110993922691477504> oh sharpshooter etc are already fixed
His ult should hit hard, but it should maybe reduce the hitbox size. It's pretty generous apparently
warm crag
His ult should hit hard, but it should maybe reduce the hitbox size. It's pretty...
im watching some tc on it rn
dense elbow
0.1% is 1000% too much
young swan
what addon is this
tardy bone
Account Played
hollow leaf
yeah what he said
edgy widget
noob
dense elbow
Now there we got a real gamer
dense elbow
Why u so mean tho, you supposed to follow the script
hollow leaf
what is this "I'ma go get my big brother" energy? <:keks:936231610850897992>
more like the autistic cousin you show in the group chat
tardy bone
the alts are just auction whores
flat river
i got timed out for a week once
edgy widget
the alts are just auction whores
you spend an awful lot of time on your AH characters
flat river
average warrior convo
tardy bone
you spend an awful lot of time on your AH characters
I AFK them at work 😄
post, cancel, post, cancel
young swan
padder
smoky vale
schmidi turla
dense elbow
Only 884 tho, a bit lower than expected
edgy widget
I don't afk in game
dense elbow
edgy widget
it also doesn't include ptr/beta, that would kick it up quite a bit
young swan
whats the command for it
flat river
i wanna check
young swan
minimap button isnt showing up for some reason
flat river
is it an addon?
rare garnet
Someone show me a Chinese fish bot that’s been active since vanilla
edgy widget
whats the command for it
there isn't one 
flat river
whats the addon
young swan
greaaaat..
edgy widget
fix your ui noob
hollow leaf
minimap button isnt showing up for some reason
it's just a minimap button
edgy widget
you have to log onto all your alts to get their data
hollow leaf
I don't afk in game
what's that 0.3% staining your perfect track record
edgy widget
my legion remix character!
hollow leaf
ew!
edgy widget
unironically that is probably my most played alt
I didn't bother to log onto any other characters
dense elbow
based on data shown, I believe it
hollow leaf
I logged into my chars but there's a good few I couldn't find anymore for some reason
maybe relics that got renamed/race changed
flat river
i played other classes why isn't showing them
edgy widget
you need to log onto them
flat river
oh
hollow leaf
there were addons before this that did the same thing but you have to log onto a character to get their /played
flat river
minimap button isnt showing up for some reason
get minimapbuttonbutton
edgy widget
get another addon to fix your addon, so you can use your other addon!
hollow leaf
so you can fix the base game
tardy bone
If only WeakAuras could fix all our other addons
dense elbow
Exactly how blizzard intended it
hollow leaf
the blizzard way (tm)
edgy widget
If only WeakAuras could fix all our other addons
get another weakaura to fix your weakaura, so you can use your other weakaura
dense elbow
Xan is stumped :v
young swan
thats the only metric that actually matters
hollow leaf
lol
young swan
no the minimap button just isnt there
flat river
get another addon to fix your addon, so you can use your other addon!
not really
its just like
young swan
theres no reason for it not to be there
young swan
i have the exact same thing built into a diff map addon
edgy widget
yall use the weirdest addons
flat river
yall use the weirdest addons
no u
edgy widget
just get sexymap like everyone else
hollow leaf
theres no reason for it not to be there
I noticed that the button is not on the "edge" of the map like others, it's a bit further in
also 67fps
flat river
just get sexymap like everyone else
leatrix maps is fine for me thanks
hollow leaf
what about sexymap
flat river
leatrix better
hollow leaf
with xperl
young swan
I noticed that the button is not on the "edge" of the map like others, it's a bi...
simple minimap just groups them all together 🤷♂️
basicminimap
i should say
hollow leaf
@edgy widget strikes me as an xperl user
hollow leaf
xd
dense elbow
i cba logging in to every alt ive ever played
I am unlocking a lot of mogs doing this :v
edgy widget
<@61282228017041408> strikes me as an xperl user
xperl this
hollow leaf
tardy bone
just clear out the savedvariables and don't log onto the mage next time
brittle crow
im honest about my mistakes
indigo arch
Tfw zperl still isn't updated
oak peak
Did i do it?
oak peak
Valid. I hang my head in shame
sudden tusk
@warm crag more i learn about the game the more i enjoy it
prob in the next few days ill explode my silly auto buy builds an actually buy items
dense elbow
would Archi make a post on this
warm crag
prob in the next few days ill explode my silly auto buy builds an actually buy i...
idk im still just autobuying everything
buy some nuanced counters and call it a day
most builds are vaguely the same thing
warm crag
i just finished a match with a venator that was just dented
2/7 ordering me around
my man is playing the character that murders people by pressing 4 and had 2 kills 😭
like i wasp laying haze. we were literally playing the same character except his was concentrated into 2 minute cd windows and he fucked it up
edgy widget
would Archi make a post on this
tbf I made that post long before anyone started talking about it in here
edgy widget
Posting anything possible
nope, only what stuff that matters
undone venture
Gotta hit that quota
edgy widget
what are you, a cop?
undone venture
Thats something a cop would say
edgy widget
you think I have quotas? 
dense elbow
200 words a day, keeps the
undone venture
Probably do
brittle crow
yea you get a month of game time per 15 posts
edgy widget
more like a year of game time per post
dense elbow
I heard he gets a waffle per 3
clever escarp
Thats fine! 
edgy widget
Thats fine! <:Fury:592471982650687519> <:copium:839076283467431956>
that's what a real warrior should look like
clever escarp
there is shaman with less xD
clever escarp
that's what a real warrior should look like
Thats what I thought thoo
humble plover
Mines gonna have a lot more hunter monk and DH than a warrior main should have. Hopefully very low mage and warlock tho
brittle crow
i still wanna know if archi has ever touched any of the other classes..
other than paladin
edgy widget
yes, with my handy 10-foot pole
humble plover
He's actually a druid main but didn't log into it to keep face
edgy widget
brittle crow
how come archi gets to use other server emoji but not us
dense elbow
The Feralumati withholds emotes for us others
olive wraith
crude yew
So kinda new to fury, had a question:
What is the purpose of bloodthirst in the rotation? Is it something to press when you've exhausted all of your raging blow uses, or do you prioritize it like you prio rampage (whenever you have the rage to use it), and use it on CD? Like is it filler, or should it be used in a specific way?
olive wraith
It has diff prio depending on which hero tree
crude yew
Say mountain thane then
crude yew
I'll take another look at the wowhead prio list
sudden tusk
So kinda new to fury, had a question:
What is the purpose of bloodthirst in the...
if you want to prep for midnight. current tuning doesnt really matter, but we will be using bloodthirst on CD basically for both hero talents
with the recent changes and nerfs to RB
crude yew
So rampage when you can > BThirst when you can > dump raging blow charges, more or less?
sudden tusk
tuh
yuh
for single target
in AoE you will Tclap /Tblast as much as possible for thane. and for slayer you just use it to keep WW stacks up for cleave purposess
crude yew
I see the wowhead prio list mentions delaying rampage to help with maintaining enrage, from just dicking around I notice I often easily maintain enrage even if I use rampage the second I can, that normal? It doesn't seem very hard to maintain in general
sudden tusk
oh dont forget about execute. when you have Sudden Death or sub 35% you will execute (i think?) has a higher prio then BT
crude yew
Yeah execute's on a longer cd so it's easier to just remember to press when able. I mostly get confused about RB and BT because they're like always up
sudden tusk
you can minmax rampage usage by trying to use other buttons until like 110-115 rage to not overcap, but also keep enrage
since you get refunds with hack and slash for additional rb charges
but most people wont care much about it and it wont matter much
crude yew
So trying to go as long as possible between rampages (without dropping enrage or capping rage) is best?
crude yew
Gotcha
lean valley
is fury slayer going to be good at 90 for M+?
lean valley
Okay, then why do the builds take 2 bladestorm hero talents but they take avatar
sudden tusk
single target only
Bladestome bad
20% damage good
recent changes made to anger managment made it also work on avatar so its a short cd with reck for more frequent burst windows
which just math wise ends up being better then bladestorm
lean valley
ok thanks
burnt raft
I heard that Fury’s target cap was removed? Something about a talent that makes aoe rampage uncapped? Is that true?
verbal steppe
frost mage in theory would be better than fury?
olive wraith
I heard that Fury’s target cap was removed? Something about a talent that makes ...
That’s not the only soft capped damage source. But yes. There’s a talent to make rampage an aoe
candid sorrel
it's also a rampage nerf until 5+targets
olive wraith
5? Thought it was 7
marble pilot
I thought it broke even at 5ish.
But Ive never tried it. Why would I use a talent that lowers my damage
young swan
frost mage in theory would be better than fury?
who knows
u ask an awful lot of questions about mage
edgy widget
So kinda new to fury, had a question:
What is the purpose of bloodthirst in the...
come Tuesday you press it on cooldown and keep pressing it on cooldown
hollow leaf
frost mage in theory would be better than fury?
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keen kindle
frost mage in theory would be better than fury?
Let's be real, it is
it's a caster
and it's a mage, blizzard's favorite love child
olive wraith
Thane got some st damage
fringe vale
https://tenor.com/view/spit-gif-22259405
frank summit
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keen kindle
https://tenor.com/view/golden-boy-kintaro-kintaro-golden-boy-funny-face-funny-an...
This is one of the freakiest things I've seen all day
and I've been in fe-I mean frost main
brittle crow
5? Thought it was 7
6 7
onyx cloak
ive been wondering what talent would i would drop for ruin? anybody got an idea?
cobalt kernel
i dont think its worth picking up maybe im wrong
jade cipher
right now in dungeons i'm doing spam thunder clap in big aoe and i'm blasting
i just use it on cd and weave a rampage or Bt in between, does too much damage
jade cipher
ive been wondering what talent would i would drop for ruin? anybody got an idea?
massacare, but as far as i understand bro, when you get ruin you do less damage with rampage on single target aswell, because when you thunder blast you get meat cleaver and your rampage does less damage, thats what people told me here
rare garnet
i just use it on cd and weave a rampage or Bt in between, does too much damage
Does not enough damage. I’m completely TC pilled now. Doing the same. It’s not “optimal” but feels good and means I don’t have to bother looking at WW stacks. For what seemingly amounts to a kinda insignificant loss.
fading sky
Rr is for slayer only
kind python
For the M+ Mountain Thane build, where does Thunder Blast rank in the the priority outside of Avatar on single target
fiery edge
@dense elbow when should i cast OF in slayer aoe rotation?
hollow leaf
whenever you have it
hasty tree
its prepatch so maybe i shouldnt give a f - but what should i sim ST right now with a good optimized gear (just a orientation number)
dense elbow
<@237283524040851459> when should i cast OF in slayer aoe rotation? <:monkahmm:1...
Always send OF at all times 
fading sky
its prepatch so maybe i shouldnt give a f - but what should i sim ST right now ...
I dno if sims are even optimized
strong monolith
Does a WW buffed Bloodthirst roll the 45% enrage chance multiple times or is it only on main target?
modest condor
just once
jade cipher
spite is a very intresting talent for flexibility purposes
first rank gives 4% while second rank gives 1%
sudden tusk
It's supposed to be 2.5 per point maybe a tooltip bug
lean valley
for m+ currently thane fury what are my 2 trinkets? I have stone idol and pace
sudden tusk
raid crit trinket/ pace prob
stone idol loses value whe nyou dont have a 1.5m burst window
lean valley
raid crit trinket/ pace prob
so what should I replace idol with?
sudden tusk
so what should I replace idol with?
antenna from raid, or sacbrood
untold lynx
so fury legit drops its defensive in cleave builds?
olive wraith
ER isn’t needed
modest condor
we have 2 other really strong defensives
and you dont have to drop it if you dont want to
fast mural
i just realized fury loot spec doesnt have 1h anymore 
mossy veldt
dumb question, are w cancelaura tb in prepatch? my tooltip says, that tc do more dmg than tb, hmmm :<
olive wraith
No
mossy veldt
so tb > tc? thx :>
crude roost
hey guys, is currently thane or slayer better performing on beta after the changes?
hollow leaf
thane still
umbral whale
does this spec have to cast rend
winter shoal
You don't have to do anything