https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QqC6fL7jvb8WyBaN?fight=10&type=damage-done i was looking at this and noticed archi dropped this
#fury
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Is thane just better for m + now?
Slayer is borked and scuffed AF atm, so yeah, by default Slayer just lose
Ya can still play it, it is prepatch, ya still going to do more dam than 90% of the ppl out there
bug abusing smh
wcl not loading, do we just play the m+ build on saladhar and dimmy?
where the 632ilvl vendor
hey guys. i want you fellas to know, i’ve been a giant long time hater of warrior DPS. and now im a full convert to Fury.

Most people are using slayer on everything except for soul hunters
what funky said and also thane is just fundamentally much less of a feast or famine spec because thunderclap actually does something
fuck u UK/EU players.. only yall can get this transmog
not only they get this THEY DONT HAVE A WHOLE DAY DOWNTIME.... riot
unless yall play on uk/eu servers u cant get sadly
Shame on u
im US server
Anyone find an addon that allows you to make an ability glow (like how you could do with weakauras) if a spell is available to use? And until it’s used?
Or if a spell is in pandemic range? (Like rend)
Play whatever you want, saladbar dies before doing anything
You don’t have to soak or look ghosts
You will not see platforms
And 5 sec of 2 targets p2
Kinda same with dimmy, it dies in the dmg amp, you kinda see ppl get the first gravity up in p1 but you don’t have to get them down (or kill the adds), the boss dies here
And p2, you arrive and 5 sec later the miniboss dies, maybe you have to go to the other side to dodge the first météore
I know this bug and im currently testing fixes for it. Its part of the API restrictions on combat logging . You gonna have to stop doing that for now😅
hey guys, can i remove rend and whirlwind from my bars in m+ ? (from bars)
ya
Yup can do
awesome, ty
guys do you know why there is a delay in Arc UI WW stacks after rampage?
it drives me nuts
i wanna smash my head
thats a feature of the normal ww tracker
that was changed by blizzard a few patches ago
whatg are the tools you use for develope this?
Visual studio and addon studio
do you guys know an addon that lets me change color of the rage bar based on how many rage i have or when rampage is usable
imagine if there was an addon that could do this by some simple clicks, hmm...
too bad it's no longer available :'(
guys is here some one high ranked eneugh to tell blizzard to fix the proc from BT for reap the storm? it was a 20% chance per target hit by bt, so before we had 5 dices if we cleaved into 5 total targets and if 1 of those dices hit we would proc reap the storm, now even if we cleave or do single target we only have 25%.. we cant even keep the 5% increase dmg (was 10) from the bladestorm/slayer strike/Reap the storm, it was 10 stacks, now its 5
uhhh
reap is being changed in the launch patch
yea thats just kind of how it is now
hence we dont play it because its bad
was a very intentional change
even if braindead
its not the same as it was with raging blow because BT has cooldown
itll also proc off execute eventually
i played it season 2 even tho MT was the top heroe talent and it was fun, this season was just brain dead
tho i dont remember what causes that to happen
maybe an apex talent or somethin
right now thane is just the far better aoe spec
the hero talents are changing in a few weeks, reap is very strong on the beta
but yeah, Slayer is da poop at the moment
ik 5 dummyes slayer i can get 110k/120k and with mt i blast up to 160k and maintain like 140k
ya
just the way it be class changes happen pretty frequently in this game esp around expansion launches lot of the times its for the worse
sometimes for the better
i miss sl into df prepatch... so peak...
80% condemn dmg arms...
there has to be an addon that can do that 😂
yeah but it was just wierd, it was working in a fun way with BT and then because raging blow sometimes you would press it like 4/5 times in a row, now people think that its the same with BT x)
but if its because of execute sure.. but they coud make it proc from all the targets and from the execute just being stronger, dono
keep the 20% chance on both but BT would do a 100% reap the storm and execute (buffed reap the storm)
always having the 5 dice roll

season 2 i was able to keep the debuff because reap the storm would help it. i guess it will be clean once we have lvl 90
but now half of the pull theres no debuff on any mob xD
and im spamming bt on cooldown to try to force it
sorry for the complain, was just giving another point of view, have a nice evening guys!
damn i kind of like arms all of a sudden feels fun as hell!
i would make this talent transform it to condemn 
arms has it aswell, right?
and this one turn shockwave into Anciant Shockwave (Night Fae)
now that they wont get imune to stuns, it would make warrior take alot more utility
why i dont see any buffs / debuffs under my player (on the left side) like i do see on target (right side)
you got a tab to put those, you need to turn on (debuffs) something like that
Baiting everyone with Darkmoon deck i guess, 5k stats is fine
oo i see, it was top right side of screen
i legit said that he didnt
cast any rend
dont care about the darkmoon deck
Rend bad for slayer
i didn't mean to specificly answer to you, just to explain his log
Wich is gonna probably bait a lot of people looking at his tweet
Fury warrior friends. Can I see your hotbars so I can steal them
Want to see how other people have there bars organized. I redid mine and I hate it
@smoky vale who the fuck is scolpi and why are they sending me a friend request
they got hacked and want be let back in
Bro I get multiple friend requests from people all the time its just bots
unbanned
ty
thanks king
We can change Loot Spec to Fury again right
theyre hidden
Getting hacked in 2026 
From before prepatch
What kind of damage are you guys doing as MT M+ spec against 3 target dummies ? pretty much max ilvl
exacly the default is there
are u a pvp fucker?
Nope, I’m a fucker that likes buttons
what on earth are you even saying xD ?
Does reckless abandon change the prio of RB/BT at all?
Doesn’t appear to
just found the improved WW stack tracker addon, thank god someone did it
Why is Slayer not even using blade storm now
only using bartender and blizzard ui for it
4pc doesnt exist so no point
Ah yeah fair enough
Cause we're 10 talents short of what they're designing us for, too, I imagine
i suppose
This is what i'm rocking
Really clean
thanks
I have my bars in a block on the bottom like zelnora. Buttons just arranged differently
Will probably try yours and theres
i only know ppl who has that many buttons on their bars are just pvper's
trillion macros
i can send ui copy paste
you need bartender for it tho
ill send it in a pastebin
its a sick fucking episode
https://justpaste.it/ix2vy blizz ui
guess i must catch up on the seasonals
mmmmyes
rate bars
the bars of all time
im in a discord that hosts watch parties
kupo
@shut cedar i dont know how to share bartender profile so i cant send
lol all good
I think I can try to recreate it
Mostly was curious what keybinds people were putting on what abilities
well u can see mine there
What’s comfortable for you might be different
my rampage is left pedal and thunder clap right pedal
Do you have a link bud ?
i think its insane that deft experience isnt baked into enrage or BT yet
FiC is worse
how the fuck do you move elements in the cooldown manager
why did they place the enrage bar on the farthest left side ofthe screen by default
have to be in edit mode, which closes the buff options
so kinda have to keep switching back and forth
im in edit mode
it doesnt show the enrage bar
ho do i remove the cast bar
wtf
im a warrior
i dont cast shit
i dont want it on my ui
Ty mate ❤️
where would find a midnight talent build in this cord?
on wowhead dot com
smh my head thanks bro glad u took the time out of ur day to help mne
why didnt you write in the address?
virus site confirmed
glad to see that we'll just be spamming raging blow for another 2 years
🧑🚀 🔫 🧑🚀
probably wont be cause pretty much every boss next raid is giga cleave
yea its bad, does lower damage with WW stacks cause of the AoE element of it. hoping we get a fix for it before release but unlikely
im not sure you could ever call what rampaging ruin needs "a fix"
thane doesnt
thane isnt fun though
thane is good tho
slayer doesnt evne use BS in ST (the only place you play it)
slayer isnt fun right now because we dont have overwhelming blades
what is that
why would that make slayer more fun
the thing that made slayer fun in s3
thats a flat 5% damage amp
the tier set
idk we shall see, i just dont want the talent to be DoA cause i like the idea, especially cause of how Ramp focused we are in Midnight
but also yea tier set should jsut be part of the talents
i disagree
2pc should
you cant be complaining about RB and then ask for more RB
reap already dead
Ruin just needs to be a net st buff
i think they should add fun tier sets to warriors talents every expansion like they do for every other spec
Then therea a niche
changed arguments
yapplebees
until 2 weeks in when the yfixed hte bug that was around for slayer for months and then everyone stopped playing thane because it wasnt fun anymore
Until then silence
That wasn’t a bug
thats partly cause a lot of people fine Thane to be boring
And thane set was still fun
pretty sure it was a bug
Slayer works
Pretty sure it wasn’t. But it’s whatever
or was a "bug" meaning they meant to have it at a different % but they never double checked
its cause Execute is back and i hope it stays
Half the reason people liked slayer was because numbers good
saying its not a bug doesnt mean it isnt a bug
yea thats like 90% of WoW players
20% good animation
slayer is fast and good damage = fun. thane is slow and good damage = boring
Thane isn’t slow?
Slow???
compared to Slayer its slow
Wtf are u smokin
thane is slow
It’s like 4 less apm
im pretty sure it was a bug
powerful enrage made it feel so boring
its just not 😭
M8 u play powerfull on slayer
yea i dont like powerful
sims said more haste
He just hates thane which is fine
St gain aoe loss
But your reasoning doesn’t make sense
Its like 0.5% difference
aoe is hte only thing that matters
And no1 will notice
theres a delay in consuming WW stacks using blizzs CD manager, is anyone else having this issue too?
yea thats how it works for CDM, there are addons that can fix it
Scroll up a bit
it used to just appear under ur char b4 lol, but for some reason you have to use their CD manager now its so stupid
its taking awaya the stack when the animation ends not when the actual spell lands
rampage takes awaya a stack after it finishes the animation which takes longer than BT
because blizzard is incompetent
at least fury still played pretty similar to before, but it just sucks not playing bladestorm anymore
^
Pre patch doesn’t matter a whole lot. Play what you like
💩 👶 🍼
pretty sure its just pre-patch
never trust this train of thought
blizzard will always disappoint you
always expect the worse
You right. It’s not cause we’re missing 10 talents
pretty sure even at max level fury wouldnt talent BS currently..
but its irrelevant to think about cause that will SURELY change before it goes live
not too sure about that but i'm not a expert on things
Surely. Fr fr, no cap
i am using Sensei Class Resource Bar with Luxthos profile, is there a way to change the color of Fury after its passing a specific number?
lets say i want it to be green from 0 to 100, and red from 100+
You can do that with arcui, idk about sensei
tyvm
Been doing a mythic clear today & auto attack is always 1st dmg share, that's crazy x)
🌩️ 🫨 🪨
Avg hit of melee s equal to Rampage avg hit 😄
are we supposed to get more talent points later or just apex and hero talents?
We get some regular talent points too
inshallah we dont have to play ra
tuning wise id imagine its completely fine but i just hate playing ra, have to overcap
No you don’t
is it worth letting enrage run out if it means fitting an extra gcd inside the enrage window and your next gcd after would be rampage anyway?
wym? 12s duration to fit in as many cb and bb
I think you misread my question
was in response to ra but in response to yours probably if its execute
You still wanna press ramp in rek windows
Ideally you don’t want it to drop but it’s not super big
Ramp takes prio in reck windows
so let's say enrage falls off in 1s, you have 100 rage, execute and rb are both available. you should rampage instead?
but worst case scenario one auto attack is missing enrage buff no?
and instead you're getting an extra cast of rb/execute
Or any other passive damage
I guess but it's like less than half a second before you would rampage again anyway
Best example I can give is s3
Enrage is falling of and you press rb while enraged. Your reap proc wouldn’t be enraged between the gcd
I can’t give you the actual dps difference
Just by feelycraft I’d say ramp before enrage falls
I feel like the prio should be reworded then to say "or it would fall off before you can rampage again"
cus that's why I had the question in the first place
The prio is a simplified version of the apl
It’s not gonna have all the niche optimization that might occur during a fight
someone go check on DK discord and see if they are raging
not really been keepin up with the latest news, how come my auto attacks are top on my dmg meter?
Pre patch is funny
Glowy raging blows = big auto attack damage
they buffed auto attack damage by a lot for midnight
they did like an overal auto attack damage buff and then fury's got buffed by like 200 percent or something like that
sorting all this addon chaos is such a cluster fuck man
Anyone know why Thunder Clap is ahead of Odyn's Fury for the Mountain Thane M+ priority on wowhead? Seems odd since OF does so much more dmg.
Im probably stupid anyone know how to split the cd manager bars apart they keep sticking togethre and then come apart randomly I dont know what IM doing
Seeing if there is some way to put on my screen how many charges of AOE from whirlwind i have left?
i had this weakaura that would show me before
Thunder clap strong. Thunder clap does lightning strike. Lightning strike can proc TB. OF is meh
My guess
Yea I mean that makes some sort of sense lol, well thanks!
thunderclap extends the duration of avatar
with the new talent setup
and you acutally dont take the talent that makes tblast do an auot lighting strike for now looking at the updated guides
fury can afk and only do white dmg and u will get a blue parse in midnight
are there any addons to improve the buff tracker? Hate the color / style
sry if this has been mentioned arldy but are wep enchants bugged or something rn? tooltip error maybe? noticed the lower level enchants are giving like 60 more stat for 3 more seconds
probably wasnt scaled down correctly lol
ya the writs are all like 3x better than the ones that have been better all season
I'm seeing this in logs from yesterday was it bugged?
Is upgrading bugged for some people
I ahve an item with 4 extra available upgrades but doesnt matter what i do, wont go higher
just 1 item lmao
I know, same here happened to me today with weapons
on a side note though, rem that head enchant from Dragonflight? or the NEck enchants from Legion?
they work now because they are ilvl 376 cut off, and our gear is way below
work on TWW mythic gear lol
who likes my transmog (weps can be transmog into fist weps)
ill give it a 6/7
is there a good way to make things snap to eachother in edit mode
or do only some things snap
yes
was giving like thousands of secondaries
does fury loot spec only drop 2H now? can i finally change back after 10000 years?
what the fuc are the slayer talents and rotation
we take rend? and use it as filler?
should i just play thane
if you dont want to actively press rend then yea
i'm not sure its a big deal tho
its weak
ur playin thane in aoe so u always have rend
is slayer significantly better tho
numbers
slayer st mt aoe real
wait is that true??
Rend is also aoe
yes, 1hrs have been removed from the Fury loot table, since they aren't intended to be used anymore
hey does anyone know an up to date fury video guide? im new to warr as of prepatch
i dont think you ever actually hit the rend button
why else would u take it tho
Tclap applies it
what tclap bro!! im playing slayer
the slayer tree just has it cuz it's pre-patch and the class tree doesn't really matter
and in some situations it is theoretical super minor increase
It’s about a 0.6% increase using Rend ahead of Whirlwind in ST, in practice, that happens maybe 5-10 times a fight depending on how lucky you are with resets
It’s more like 2-2.5% used ahead of RB in AoE, but Slayer AoE is kinda jokes right now anyway so I wouldn’t recommend it
everything just dies so dont think many bother with mt on short duration cleave cuz can barely get 2 thunder blasts off b4 everything exploded
just pop an odyns fury and be chillin
just testing on dummy thane aoe vs slayer st there isnt much difference in st dam lol
hi its me, back
hi back, I'm dad
Dad why is mom crying again
she plays resto shaman
We are all far too happy. Blizzard gonna have to come in and nerf us
lol they just nerfed unh big time
made my DSR more accurate
The name is "Du-moss!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMe3WDmxBEI
A&W Rootbeer
a man is getting a job interview by the boss whose name is Mr. D-u-m-a-s-s. and he keeps calling him Mr. Dumbass. The boss leans over the desk and says, "the name is Dumas." (it's pronounced Dumas, but spelled Dumass.)
whats the basic thane rotation?
bloodthirst, thunderclap, repeat
got it
while ur here and hopefully not too bothered by the ping
@lusty whale is a friend request bot
maybe they just want friends, ever think of that?
well i dont
friends? what's that?
not even if its teto?
thats my wife
hello, based department?
weebs
if anime is a blight mmos are a pestilence
you're right but anime is leaps and bounds worse
cluegi
yo wtf why does remix character ilvl give me 2% haste 💀 i was wondering why fury felt so slow
I mean wth are the 2 other peepos be doin?
i dont even know
their best
warlock would hit 200-250k in big aoe packs but thats about it
tell him to go demo
sjele was doing pretty good as aff today
me when I think vocaloid is an anime
He must have been afk ngl
😂
i do feel for the healers tho.
it seems like almost every single spec got taken out back complexity wise
Anyone have an addon to replace OmniCD's larger text size on actionbars functionality?
Ok im lazy
what trinkets do we actually use
i tried arcano core but seems weak af
stone idol doesnt align
Araz ?
I just use two passive trinkies, fg and egg, as the blizz ui dont want to track idol
as in it doesnt show the dmg?
well araz i a 2m burst trinket
and we are a 1m class
should workout no ?
i c ppl using screams but cba
As in the blizz ui does not show the trinky on the CDM
So I just end up not using it
Just put it in an action bar and make it only show one button
place it somewhere around your character's frame
simple
There's so many things that are possible that people don't know because they've gotten too used to addons lol
i've never understood having icons on your screen to show the buttons that are already on your screen, you can adjust the actionbars so easily do do what the Weakaura packages used to do anyway
As an avid weakaura lover
i mean nephui arcui lets u place it where u want without makin one
basicly like wa
My action bars look like this, basically a weakaura package anyway
then i just have Arc ui showing me the buffs that are necessary
Like enrage, rage, the new raging blow thing etc
holy gigantic :D
they're not that big
the pic made it look bigger
Ye cause i cropped it xD
I don't know why everyone wants WW stacks to be like the arc thing
I just have them as a buff tracker
Line it up with the bars REE
😈
kinda wish fury had that arms 2% healing out of combat skill
Just be a gigachad dracthyr
Welp… Ngl my prepatch dps numbers have me worried for midnight 😂
prepatch != midnight end game. missing apex/hero talents, tier sets and many beta adjustments
You are last dps in keys ?
True that, but I have a hard time believing that doubling the output any other dps I’ve played with so far is going unnoticed. And I’m quite sure its not because I play perfectly and everyone else sucks 😂
maybe you just need more practice? :D
If that didn’t come across correctly… I’m doing too good… way too good 😂
You double the output of any other dps bc they are bad, my guild mates don’t do 1/2 of my dps
But every pug key I did I’m the two other dps combined
oh. misunderstood. my original statement still holds :)
Wdym… that IS by definition doubling other people’s dps is it not? 😂
It’s bc they are bad players
Play with someone decent they will do same dps as you
The only thing coming close right now is surv… because that spec is braindead af 😂
Alright I’ll keep up the field study 👌
UH pumps pretty good too ^^ (atleast i did on my UH)
You should increase the key lvl if you want to have a higher chance to have above average players
Yeah well I pug almost exclusively at the moment… and don’t have enough commitment to go past 14… thus… can’t speak about high keys
Give a try, key lvl are kinda broken, I don’t really see a difference between 19s and 10s, just shit lives longer but you be 2x bolted+ volley cast, no one dies
In a 18 flood I took aggro on big momma and ate the tankbuster with no cd def, I lost 20% hp
Might as well over the weekend let’s see 😉 still feels like some people are struggling more with kicks since the patch… I’ll slate this up as mostly ui visibility problems
ofc
What addon are you using to customize the Damage meter
Also your action bars aren't centered lmao
ah i never look at the ones on the bottom of screen
should prob set em to dissapear in combat
It seems very mob specific, I die from aggro sometimes but other packs, nothing, I tanked the last boss of the same floodgate to see if I survive the fight
rando mob did hit me for 120k
HOLY FUCK I MISS DETAILS
why cant i c a fackin proper breakdown of shit
jesus
It is one thing I miss, with some visual when you have a debuff, countdowns /say and other few things
u can set it up a bit
problem is
current text to speech only your target
i would like a bit more information, mainly coz this means if u just mark a "interrupt" target each
u solve the issue, but its annoying and not very pug friendly, and yes u could just use eyes, but man when youre used to a lot of audio queus
its rough
Im fine if it stays, but yeah the change feels weird, I turned the music back on 
I’ve been away from the game for about 3-4 months now . How’s fury looking with these new updates
strong
It’s an illusion
Right before the season starts we gunna get gutted happens every time
U must be new here ❤️
its ok to be number 1 mr ironwall
Bless your little heart . I pray that it does not get too devestated when the time comes
interesting
Hey guys, genuine question do you reckon now with healers not having interrupts that the meta of races might change a bit for example races with stops like warstomp etc
so i think i figured out what my dps rotations thx to wowhead and all that but idk what I should be using or if u need to be using taunts and interrupts and buffs and what i should use ?
Will likely depend on overall tuning . If things are dieing fast enough depending on class tuning more damage would be more viable then an Extra intrupt
dont need to be taunting as a dps my man, that would be some spell reflect tech with an experienced team
is are there any talents i should use besides my dps rotation ones ?
well of course you should use talents besides ones that give dps
are you new or is this a language barrier
Does somebody has some insight how it feels to play fury vs playing combat rogue? I have near zero experience in both.
Fury warrior is amazing during prepatch - pre season and the last 2 months of each season
We will excel in raid week 1 then be nerfed till the last 2 weeks of a raid tier
@brave plank
Well shockwave is good for aoe stuns, rallying cry can help your raid when a raid wide damage mechanic comes out, not heaps of utlity we get as warriors but just reading what they do and playing you can start to udnerstand what abilities are good in different situations
also our apex talents are worse than most ppl, so we prob loose something there as well 😄
Mh. Okay.
I was more wondering how they feel from a playstyle point of view, from somebody who understands their class. Combat rogue feels kinda "self-buff"-maintenance heavy, while furry warrior is a lot more apm with different active buttons? Is that correct or am I wrong?
Fury warrior is Rampage , rampage , rampage and pause…….. more rampage
That’s our man spend/spender . And depending on how blizzard feels about our FOTM it’s either gunna be a raging blow season or a Bloodthirst season
Slayer is pretty brain dead and easy for anyone picking up the spec, imo thane is much more fun and has more going on right now, especially when swapping between ST and aoe rotations with some buttons shifting in our priority quite a lot
And yes fury basically has no real downtime . It’s face smash ur face across the keyboard
ok and i acc use stormbolt to stun
idk if thats better or wrose
I guess combat rogue and fury are kinda similar as high apm specs then?
slayer sadly doesnt make much sense until lvl 90
In a raid setting its rare that you will need a single stun like storm bolt, but in m+ yea its good
in midnight its gonna be awesome
Yeh only difference is you can’t really mess up a fury rotation
Is so bland especially for Slayer . Just wait for ur execution procs and boom
For thane it’s more engaging imo
Fury has the potential to have a really interesting rotation this expansion if rend, raging blow auto attack buff and bloodthirst bleed buffs are all strong enough to be required to maintain
That’s about the most engaging thing we need to track hahaa
is battle shout any good or should i just use rally cry or both ?
We don’t even need to press rend . Don’t our other abilities apply it ?
Battle shout is a buff u press it once and keep it on

We don’t use tclap in ST to apply rend already unless we happen to get a thunder blast proc, so we’re not actively caring about maintaining rend at all right now
Yeh in ST in Aoe tho rend shouldn’t even be on ur bars
battle shout will apply to your allies to, rally is more like a defensive cooldown for your raid, they can stack
I’m not talking about the ability, I’m taking about the debuff itself
Cause TC will apply it ertime
So it includes tclap rend or standard rend
ok good to know
im sure someone in a raid would teach me this stuff id just rather know some of this beforehand
I hope thunder blast is buffed in a way that allows it to be important enough in single target to shift bloodthirsts priority up to proc it more often tbh
@pearl sequoia miss u
im sure theres some basic youtube warrior guides to tell you stuff, but just getting in and smashing some buttons to figure things out would porbably be best, learn as you go
i just wanna kiss u 💋
Might need to save it for the private warrior cord
Too spicy here
In raid u just hit Bshout once and if u wipe u reapply it is all. Other then that u never need to use that button . Rally as mentioned above can be used as a defensive ( and don’t hate me warrior discord for saying this but ) also consider it a utility
aight msg in the diddy cord
im sure ill end up pissing off a raid team but fuck it

If you wanna piss off a raid time all you have to do as a warrior is charge through a mechanic like a bomb or something that when touched it wipes the group
my charge talent will make me a troll
even better just get meerah's jukebox and macro it into charge
gonna be honest idk how to macro stuff i dont undertsand it at all
Bshout used to give you an aborb and proc shards man
Shame
Idiot yell press
Self inflicted
yell @ u bc u are noober
Are the talent build on wowhead ready for prepatch and already reviewed or they just shitty builds?
Yes
Kk thy
Its prepatch, they're not supposed to feel sexy
they are built for prepatch and they are fine
Is there a way to fix Fury sim spitting out an error for Rend? Keeps saying it's invalid :c
so should we socket solid strength gems or are hybrid gems stronger?
do what sim says
sim doesnt have them as an option
still there for me
💯
@winter shoal oh brother, you made me download bugsack, and now i see some random new error every day
and have no clue what the fuck are them 
i love that addon tho
tbh id disable, and wait for more updates later
thats what i did with half my addons
found out, it was all because of 1 addon

i dont even know how that 1 addon made 5 other addons to error out completely
Dont worry, I can make solutions a plenty. I just dont see it worthwhile atm. If Blizzard hasnt made a fix by launch of next expac, then I will start the adaption phase.
I just expect the devs to fix this shortly 
idk but looks like you should update MplusAdventureGuide
think of it this way though, the error was happening anyways, now you're just able to actually see it and fix it
nah, it was an addon i updated to alpha version
that made 5 others to go wrong
they should give us skull banner in midnight 🤔
wasnt even the mplus guide, runs fine without that 1 faulty addon
where are the pre-patch guides?
probably on wowhead?
P sure madox has a yt video guide too but I think he put it out right before no-BS slayer was found 
anybody have macro for reck and ava?
anyone having isssues typing a name for a ui loadout? wont let me do it?
tried reloading and restarting
Yeah i have the build in the description but legit put it out and the slayer build was found
Tho tuning is so nothing right now can play anytime
#showtooltip
/cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar
/use Tempered Potion
/use 14
That’ll give you reck, Ava, pot, and your on-use
And if you want to de-sync your pot from the macro on pull to save for like a burn phase, just edit it taking off one of the letters in the name “Tempered Potion”
or add -- to the start of the line
Even better
thanks, i just did a /use for reck and /use for ava and it works
didnt have to do the showtooltip thing
It’s just so that the icon shows as a recklessness icon on your bar
thanks bud much appreicated
You’re welcome!
Anyone know a addon or something get a GCD bar?
So does fury just not have any defensives
We have like 4
SR, IV, dstance, rally
And then ER sometimes
also passively tanky
fury doesnt need defensives because wehave two wepons 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪
ofc we have two hands, how many weapons would you get
Ppl who say Fury dont have defensives... Need some help
Fury is really tanky, and with stance mastery, it is close to insane in potential
Yeah even spell reflect alone, the short cd make it a great cd
What's going on with slayer right now? Is it just expected to give up avatar since the hero spec seems built around bladestorm?
SR + dstance is gonna be like a 50%dr alone thats basically always available
Devs didnt listen to me and buff BS 
Tldr: BS (and/or Slayer BS value mods) are currently undertuned
feels really weird to take hero talents that are obsolete because avatar is an obvious choice to pick
It is only for a short while, dont worry
It isnt intended, they just suck at napkin math and listening to feedback 
Is it still worth it to take into ST raid encounters with avatar
yeah I go thane for m+ and slayer for raid so the slayer changes were tripping me up
RIP ravager
Rest in piss ravager, you and hurricane who still haunts me with hurricane jr to this day
warpaint
do i need to track enrage or can i just hide it and press rampage when it glows
It's generally a good idea to track, since you don't always want to rampage as soon as you can
heyo, how's it looking in Midnight, is fury slayer competitive in keys? or is thane top there too
Too early to tell
Okay
Did some updates on this addon for anyone using it
Added Minimap Hide Option
Fixed Range Bug while in combat.
Fixed Stack Colors Bug
Added Bar Texture Options
Not loading if talent is not active
Love the addon, thanks for making it
cheers!
I'll give this a shot, been noticing some delay with the blizzard one
Addon is great. Thanks for the hard work
super accurate, my goat ty
@winter shoal hi ty for the addon
one very small bug i noticed on the new version: when you manually remove the buff for iww, the addon still tracks the stacks. thats really something you never do but still :D
love the addon though, gonna be used for all of midnight for sure!
you did some QA lol... thanks for that..i'll look into it..
but...for now...dont do that xDD
im not even sure thats a bug
like tracking buff state isnt something that addons can do anymore
good point
bless you
anyone knows an addon that hides CDM when mounted?
what in the crit % is that r2 thane log for dimmy
Gods work, thank you!
would think it just as easy to hide while out of combat
sometimes you are on foot , questing running around etc
but yeh...it does the job too i guess
Enhanced QOL can, it has a whole bunch of other good features as well
Goat
hello zug-friends
whats the go-to M+ build that is performing the best rn?
the one Ria is using looks good but [Rampaging Ruin] feels so ass to use
Who is ria
problem is some slayer specific talents and some fury ones buffs BS and some stuff you can do before and after a BS
but the value from Avatar rn is just too much
also execute "nerfs"
Top 1 Fury World rn
https://raider.io/characters/us/illidan/Riå?season=season-tww-3
oh u mean the guy thats obviously abusing prepatch bugs
Lmao
eh sure, pre-patch will pre-patch but still
Not the +40s
yeah so his build doesnt matter at all and hes just playing random shit while someone in his group one shots everything with timewalking gear
Tldr RR is bad
No, guys, RR is what carries the 40s
It’s actually OF
whats the best source of builds rn? wowhead seems kinda scuffed
wowhead
man I should get back, how easy is to get a decent looking ui or import someone's?
would it also work for all characters, right?
Which part
With my retail gear I'm consistently able to fit a 5th skill after Rampage with both Rampage and the 5th skill getting full benefit from the WW buff. I've verified with combat logs as well
Unequipping haste gear leads to a situation where this isn't possible but I haven't investigated the exact haste breakpoint. I guess it should work any time GCD is lower than Rampage time though?
Figured I'd bring it up because of recent focus on the Improved WW tracker(which is great btw, blizz please fix this and make ww tracking instant by default)
it takes violent euphoria and unhinged from the slayer tree, but doesnt take bladestorm? (the wowhead raid/st slayer build).
doesnt make sense to me ,but Im also a newbie
Ironically this is correct
wat xD
Slayer tree is fukd until midnight
thats kinda sadge
Don’t worry at least it’s only a month of cringe
might thane be better even for most ST scenarios then?
Think it’s close but no slayer is still ahead in pure st
It’s not like no one cares actually about st with the raid fights lasting 1 min
damn I have to play avatar slayer to hit target dummies for 30 min
You are not taking prepatch raid seriously enough. How dare you?
it is the real endgame and will show who is boss and who is boss. It makes sense if you are a norwegian, and from the right spot 
i rerolled uhdk and they nerfed their damage by 50% 🙁
anyone have a ST build? i dont wanna trust wowhead, lol.
Is there something wrong with the one on wowhead?
Looks fine to me no? we're to use ava in ST
oh i looked but i heard MT is preferred but also Slayer is. so idk
as far as my knowledge, some say MT, some say Slayer. So i came to the knowledge hub, lol
ok cool
ohhhh ok. So ST is Slayer with avatar instead of BS. ok cool.
yeah so WOWhead is confusing with the Slayer build ST.
all this talk about bladestorm but it has avatar. so doesnt that eliminate all the bladestorm stuff?
Yeah ST slayer you use avatar >bladestorm, weirdly
So you don’t have all the bladestorm interactions
But avatar makes up for it, in ST only
Do you have bladestorm checked on
oh you know what? let me check
so there isnt an option on my screen to have either or
right.
Who do you think runs this discord

well im not the smartest person. so im super confused as to why wowhead says this
im looking at the wowhead fury talent tree. the recommended build for st.
ok i see. so this build is to get more uses of execute
Yup
yeah thats what slayer does
thats kinda awkward
damn
i didnt see the talents lol
so you just have couple dead nodes
Ya lmao
yeah, i was a little confused, like, umm, those say need BS.
but like, what can you do really cause the other route has you needing BS too. so i guess.
You want the real answer
Just play bladestorm because it prepatch and shit doesn't matter.
Your gonna use bladestorm in midnight so might as well use it here
Honestly surprised Archi even put ava slayer in the wowhead guide
I mean he’s gonna put what’s best in live right
People gonna take pre patch seriously either way
yeah i was thinking its probably best for prepatch, so its there now. when we get lvl 90, bs will prevail
I ain't gonna tell you how you should play the game. Feel free to take pre patch seriously if you want but we cleared mythic like it was on normal, and keys are being treated like remix keys sooo not really any content worth min maxing

Ya that’s gonna be subjective. So Archi gotta publish “bis”
Like im not even subbed cause cba
Im an addict so I just play tbc wow instead of retail

have fun in prepatch while you can
Can someone explain this... 'chart'? Doesn't make any sense to me:
Now for the thing yall actually care about, talent builds!
Fury Slayer* > Thane >> Arms Slayer > Colossus for single target/raid,
Thane > Colossus >> Arms Slayer >> Fury Slayer in Mythic+,
Fury Slayer is using Avatar instead of Bladestorm, because reasons
Guys I’m tired of mud huts, human or NE for ally? Female obviously
its a priority of whats better
Whatever looks better to you
Yeah, I'm still not getting it though. Is this correct?
For Mythic Plus: Thane... than what?
Thane is better than Colo
Those two are much better than slayer arms
Slury is griefing at the bottom
So... Fury > Arms? Like... it's organized very strangely to me.
im just as lost as you are in understanding how you are so confused at this
Yeah, okay. I think I got it now. Definitely NOT how I would have organized that data. Maybe I've just been looking at spreadsheets too long today.
Single Target/Raid
Fury Slayer > Fury Thane > Arms Slayer > Arms Colossus
Mythic+
Fury Thane > Arms Colossus > Arms Slayer > Fury Slayer
Do I have that correct?
Humans get bigger two-handers just by existing, so... lolol
Dwarf
Have you seen those beards
This is what’s written in updates
i made a bit of an unorthodox statement that i thought affliction warlock was way easier than fury last night and was heavily bashed for it over at the warlock discord. However, I just really struggle with fury, it's not difficult in a traditional "difficult spec" sense but it's all happening so fast with so many things to take into account that i just dont have enough time for decision making. Does anyone else feel like this or am I just too much smooth brain?
It definitely doesn't feel as smooth as it did. I'm really not a fan of leaning so much into thunderclap and odyn's fury
Tc slaps though
I think I'd like it better if it was off the gcd
YES
I feel like I would like fury to get 0.5+ gcd hahaha
Sometimes you get into a situation where everything procs and suddenly is ready and I panic
We usually get pretty close
ah no, i mean LONGER gcd, more time to think haha
Oh myb
Cant handle the heat get outta the kitchen
Ya know that’s part of the fury appeal
It’s mostly muscle memory tbh
The longer you play the easier it’ll get
dumb question, why does wowhead suggest Avatar over bladestorm for Slayer?
purely for ST because you dont have access to all your hero talents
Ava just ends up being numerically better
whats the best way to keep track of whirlwind stacks for fury aoe now?
You can track it in cdm
Or there’s been an addon posted here. Search for links in this channel
iww addon
whats this?
thanks!
is fury still target capped at 5?
No
is it uncapped now`?
the main melee abilities are never not gonna be capped at 5 but have somewhat enough aoe to be fine on higher targets
odyns is good now thats uncapped thunderclap/blast too pmuch
so u dont feel handicapped in big pulls?
havent done anything since prepatch but lookin at other ppls overalls think we're plenty fine
thunder blast feels really good rn
which is our main hope for m+ tuning
I'd love them to make tblast do additional damage if it only hits one target though. It would likely push bloodthirsts prio up to fish for more TBs
without it thane just feels like bad slayer in ST with an occasional funny tclap in avatar
Isn’t Tc strong
in avatar yes coz of this
Haven’t looked. Are we able to get the ava extend talent
yeah
so when is thane getting nerfed lol
Anyone here play fury?
nah
I’m the last fury warrior
rare white name
extinct species
ask about furry warriors instead maybe you'll find a couple of those
Am I allowed to be a white name in here?
jail
Oh
I’m sorry, I didn’t realize
I’ve been in this server for so long, like a few months now
I’d never be a Paladin. I only have 100+ hours on ret
hey so maybe i missed a page but the wowhead recommended raid build is playing slayer with no bladestorm.
you didn't miss anything
just spin your toon and ww
How messed up that we gotta be mountain thane in M+?
Your name contradicts that
0% messed up
How often do fury warriors get accused of being paladins who are ashamed of being paladins? Real question 
When they have paladin in their name
Okay prove it
if u wanna insult us say another thing, but calling us of paladin is too far away
Name every warrior
warrior
Show us your fury warrior tier lit


