fury

[woven valley]

yeah we take avatar atm for reasons

yeah for prepatch

[frank dawn]

Current status of Bladestorm:

[winter shoal]

It'll get tuned before expansion launch surely

[clever abyss]

Surely

[frank dawn]

yeah they totally haven't left powerful and signature abilities dead for multiple seasons before or anything

[woven valley]

odyns fury would love to talk to you art

[clever abyss]

But man, thane syncing reck/avatar every time feelss gooood

Well not thane specific

[woven valley]

spent an entire xpac being useless kek

[undone flower]

i think it's just the talents we are missing

[clever abyss]

Mage tower war armor is so clean

God damn

[woven valley]

ew

that armor set is bootycheeks color wise

[clever abyss]

Wow

[woven valley]

should have been white and blue

[clever abyss]

I think it looks awesome. Just gold & red

Very simple coloring

[raw bone]

isnt this rotation missing BT before whirlwind?

[woven valley]

why use icyveins? is bad

[raw bone]

wowhead better?

[woven valley]

usually updates faster and has more up to date stuff imo

[plush zephyr]

same writer

[young swan]

its the single target prio list man

[young swan]

its not

[woven valley]

same writer except the info is ALWAYS different on both sites

or icy veins is broken half the time and missing a bunch of random stuff

[raw bone]

i really doubt we use whirlwind before bloodthirst on single target

[young swan]

oh I see what ur saying, pretty sure u just actually never press BT

[plush zephyr]

This isn’t true and only happens if the writers are different, like Mages for example.

[young swan]

but either way like

i dont think it matters much

[junior gale]

Xan I need to min max prepatch

[raw bone]

tbh i just went to see if we prioritized bt or rb, but i guess it's clear

[junior gale]

It matters a lot my life is on the line here

[woven valley]

i mean go off. just speaking from what ive noticed.

not gonna argue about website usage in prepatch kek

[plush zephyr]

Then why make up some shit and say something to begin with

[woven valley]

i didnt make anything up. i said the info tends to be differnt on each site. which in my experience it has been.

[hardy vault]

can we turn off highlight on cooldown manager bar ?

[trail thunder]

i assume that slayer ST fury build on wowhead that takes avatar is a typo?

[frank dawn]

you would want to think that wouldn't you, but no, it's not a typo

[trail thunder]

?

????

wild

[woven valley]

Prepatch is wonky

[trail thunder]

btw, i saw people say arms is lowkey ass but do we have sims? id love to know "how" ass

[brittle crow]

it's broken

mastery doesn't work that's why it's ass

[manic mirage]

Critcake in a video he released yesterday said don't play arms, doesn't feel good at the moment.

[trail thunder]

ah so its "literally" bugged

and if mastery worked it would be fine?

[woven valley]

Eh fine is subjective based on what you want from the game

[brittle crow]

swedish answer

[trail thunder]

"things have to be pretty close in performance for me to consider playing the thing i like more"

[woven valley]

Ah then no don’t play arms

[woven valley]

https://tenor.com/view/swedish-chef-gif-13277498

[junior gale]

None of the content in prepatch is real enough to care about performance. If you wanna play some arms then go for it. Have some fun in prepatch.

[brittle crow]

wow isn't about fun it's about being obligated to show up and perform

[fading sky]

100%

Raw doggin others

[junior gale]

Not when everything is scaled so low mythic bosses fall over like normal

[woven valley]

4 minute dimmy is the dream

Fucking hated that fight

[junior gale]

Spend more time flying around on dimmy than doing the actual fight

[woven valley]

Real and true

[rich palm]

is there anyway to track out WW stacks? Cant seem to find it.

[thorn steeple]

OH GOD not like this

any way to track meatcleaver with bars? Arc ui is kinda massive to have for just one thing

[fresh creek]

you can change it go in CDM

and drag the meat cleaver from the bars to the buffs

[thorn steeple]

I want bars tho

[fresh creek]

for me its like this

much better then the bar

[flat river]

my UI

[fresh creek]

those 4 sqaures is that the WW buff by any chance?

[flat river]

yes

[fresh creek]

how u got it like that?

[flat river]

arc ui

[fresh creek]

ah

[thorn steeple]

yeah thats unfortunate

loading one addon just to add a bar

[forest owl]

are all addons pretty much not working at this point?

[mossy pelican]

Arc UI be doing a lot of diff things tbh

[thorn steeple]

arc its cool if you multiclass

[thorn steeple]

how did you get that "4" on meatcleaver on the top center?

[fresh creek]

its an addon

[thorn steeple]

...?

xD

[fresh creek]

cooldown manager centered i think

but the credit goes to luxthos

for that i just copied

[thorn steeple]

cool. thank you

[fresh creek]

could also be sensei class resource bar

[forest halo]

ArcUI is sick

[fresh creek]

addon aswell

?

[forest halo]

the frames are from EnhanceQoL and then the cooldown manager is ArcUI

[fresh creek]

ahn

[marble swift]

without WA's how are we supposed to track WW stacks for aoe?

[olive wraith]

You can with cdm

[marble swift]

ah

[fresh creek]

like this

@marble swift

[chrome summit]

hmm do we use clap instead of WW still now as MT in m+?

[radiant plank]

yes

[fading sky]

Dont we.clap on cd?

[chrome summit]

so MT isnt so big dif from before?

[fading sky]

We executie

[radiant plank]

clap on cd inside avatar

and hit execute alot

[marble swift]

yeah but this is like

animation lagged from CDM

your character has to finish their cast on rampage for example before it reports you used a stack

thats stupid

[fresh creek]

was like that with WA aswell

tho

[chrome summit]

is there a way ingame to track WW/clap stacks then?

[marble swift]

i dont remember it being this lagged

[fresh creek]

didnt count after rampage

[chrome summit]

i used to have a wa

[marble swift]

how did you remove the bar?

[olive wraith]

Read up like 5 lines

[fresh creek]

simple drag the WW buff from bars to buffs

[marble swift]

oh its a tracked buff bar separately

idk i liked the WA a lot better

also it doesnt track avatar well only when you activate it, not when its off CD, which is really odd

[fallen ginkgo]

just clapping

this is fun

[eternal compass]

can any of you guys export a arcui profile? im too dumb to make a good looking functional one

[untold yacht]

hi so do I keep the ui in CDM but with applying arc UI interface it seems both are not compatible

[glad coyote]

I know most of yall could care less about m+ but i had a weakaura that could make my stoneform flash when i had a poison, disease/curce/magic and bleed effect that i could remove. and i cant figure out how to get that set up again in this cooldown manager

anybody got something for this?

[frank dawn]

I don't think that's possible anymore

[thorn steeple]

wtaf

who plays like this

[zinc python]

are we going Bladestorm or Avatar for slayer fury cleave?

[glad coyote]

right now we are ava cause of missing talents

[untold yacht]

anybody know where my idiot brain turned off rend showing when not applied? before it only showed in this place when rend was applied, Im an idiot warrior im sorry

[glad coyote]

but once max lvl bladestorm

[zinc python]

and thats for cleave encounters like dimmy and forgeweaver?

[glad coyote]

thane

[zinc python]

oh okay, theres some conflicting info on wow head then

[wild mural]

[young swan]

dont think there is

hes referring to level 90

or do u mean slayer in raid

[zinc python]

okay i guess im just not clear on whats for level 90 and whats for prepatch then

[young swan]

everything on wowhead is for level 80

[glad coyote]

right now, i would play thane per everything ive seen until patch and we get all the talents

numbers will obv change between now and than but

if you want something tht slaps, thane right now

imo

[mighty patio]

hey dudes using arc Ui for cdm how to i arrange the icons in the order i want ?

[young swan]

its a bit finnicky but its just drag and drop

[gusty cloak]

where do i get arc ui

[mighty patio]

just while the arc ui options are open ?

[mighty patio]

thank you

[young swan]

its something like that, I had to fiddle with it a bit to get it to work

its not exactly intuitive

[young swan]

curseforge website

or app

just make sure u type "Arc UI"

[quiet geyser]

Tweakui:CDM seemed a lot more intuitive when I was playing around with it last night

Little buggy, but expected

[mighty patio]

that shit broke my whole game ... its a trap

[fiery hare]

game feels so bad without scrolling combat text :<

[quiet geyser]

How so? Seems fine for me

[chrome summit]

is this old damage meter? 😮

[quiet geyser]

I miss name plate SCT 🙁

[young swan]

details still exists

its just a skin for the blizzard damage meter

[chrome summit]

ohh i want this

[tame yarrow]

Why is rend skilled in the recommened Slayer builds, if we dont want to use it?

[frank dawn]

the class tree stuff doesn't really matter before the end so they just copied the thane one for pre-patch. I would bet they'll have more fine tuned stuff for max level

and also because you don't want to use Slayer in general right now

[eternal compass]

ahh with the cd manager its back to the annoyign WW stack with the rampage one delayed

is there anyway to fix it?

[frank dawn]

not yet, that I know of anyway

[valid pulsar]

What do you mean ?

[valid pulsar]

Why not can you explain just logged in after a huge break 😄

[frank dawn]

Slayer bad, bladestorm bad, important changes not in pre-patch, damage it do is bad

[jade badger]

Whirlwinds stack counter is delayed in counting down til Rampage animation is done

[valid pulsar]

💀

[thorn steeple]

IT SUCKS

[valid pulsar]

Even st ?

[jade badger]

I'm dealing with Execute flashing ready to use shortly after using it (no SD procs) and it's driving me insane

[frank dawn]

it's good on 100% pure single target

[zinc python]

slayer still seems better for single target

[jade badger]

pure st slayer is still ahead but any amount of ads you wanna do thane

[glad coyote]

you using blizz cdm?

[jade badger]

Arc

[glad coyote]

ive noticed that blizz cdm is a little behind on WW stack counting

ahh

[jade badger]

it's doing it on both

[thorn steeple]

im working on it

[glad coyote]

its not terrible but

[jade badger]

it's not the worst just slightly annoying, same with the execute issue i'm dealing with

[thorn steeple]

imagine using wireless headphones with .5ms delay

its unbearable XD

[untold yacht]

Does anyone know where I turned off the automatic activation of Rend when I apply it to a target? Now it’s active all the time, and before it only triggered once I put it on a target. Help

[valid pulsar]

oh okay thats sounds indeed annoying

[thorn steeple]

i made an addon for tracking Tip stacks on Survival and it works pretty good without any delay

i'm working on making one for Improved WW

[prime summit]

anyone have decent cooldown manager import code to start off with? my stuff is a mess xd

[tame yarrow]

Do you have a plan for setting up other specs or classes with those bars? Guess we have to create a profile for every spec, right?

[quiet bramble]

I can be a dagger warrior. 😄

[olive wraith]

Can I make a suggestion even if it doesn’t answer your question? Don’t track it

[young swan]

that would be my suggestion too

[untold yacht]

ok Im kinda new, could you elaborate so I can consider just scrapping tracking this as im already annoyed with this rend

[young swan]

its not worth pressing for slayer and thane applies it passively

[untold yacht]

Ok thats logical, so we dont really apply it in aoe as a separate button

and ST it wont be worth it, ok screw tracking it then ill turn it off, ty!

[graceful elk]

Hey fellas havent gotten to log on yet but are all add ons gone now?

[olive wraith]

In st it’s still applied when you press thunder clap for thane

Neither spec wants to natty cast rend

Also fwiw I’m not even sure executioner is worth tracking (slayer)

[spice ingot]

Thunder clap applies rend automatically? Haven't gotten a chance to log on and look closely. Was confused about the rend talent

[olive wraith]

Yes

[undone flower]

kirawarrior

[graceful elk]

Where is the link to the new talents

[lunar oracle]

Anyone got a addon that can use for tracking whirlwind stacks? could only find WA ones taht dont wonrk now 🙁

just using the ingame count on the skill icon atm, would prefer a bar like the WA packs had to put under my resource bar

[young swan]

wowhead

[lofty delta]

ArcUI let's you make stack bars

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1443860930055114856/1463478831737471226/image.png?ex=6971fa5f&is=6970a8df&hm=2f2a6c45039e803b8d157608531c011bde80ae8f7b4bfa1cd62dd751bd05e304&

The 0 is meant to be stack numbers but the addon is currently bugged but should be fixed soon

[thorn steeple]

its delayed

because of animations

just like the default buff

[plush maple]

Did they ever fix Rampaging Ruin? Haven't heard anything about it for a while now

[olive wraith]

Fix?

[plush maple]

More like made it less supposedly trash

[marble pilot]

You still pretend it doesn't exist afaik

[olive wraith]

Oh buff it

No

[plush maple]

Fair enough because yeah it's like it doesn't exist

[thorn steeple]

I'm already working on an addon for WW stacks . no delay lighter than Arc ui, if you only play warrior

[plush maple]

That honestly looks really nice

Good visual clarity

[thorn steeple]

lets you swap to icons if you want to

still testing

[lofty delta]

Is it released on curseforge or still working on it?

[lofty delta]

Nvm, just saw this xD

[lunar oracle]

sweet 😉 cheer bro

[olive wraith]

Wow would you look at that

Pushing OF into being more useful

[thorn steeple]

Since i've already done the work For hunter , it was really easy transition

i might just put it up on Curse and you can report bugs toi me on Discord if you find any

[lunar oracle]

nice one

[plush maple]

HUH Replaces Slam HAHAHA

Dunno guys I really want to Slam, do I need Rampage??

[wary fjord]

tell me when u finish this if you do, arcui aint cutting it for me rn

[young swan]

i mean its not an Arc UI issue

its a blizzard backend issue

[wary fjord]

i just like the changing to icon thing

[thorn steeple]

blizzard like to track animations for some reason

[wary fjord]

wack

[young swan]

its not animations

it was an intentional decision designed to combat rampage getting parried and consuming a stack of WW

so the "consumption" is only counted after the last strike

it was a dumbass decision

[wary fjord]

easy fix, remove parry

[young swan]

but its what they decided to do

or just any case where the rampage doesnt go off fully

moving out of range

[wary fjord]

ye

[young swan]

is another case

[thorn steeple]

it conflicts with other abilities too tho . what about thunder clap.. it still does the same shit

[wary fjord]

still want them to remove parry from pve

[young swan]

yeah its tied to the WW buff

[thorn steeple]

or even when you play Survival...you press the bomb...and then it consume a stack when the bomb lands ..so like...imagine if you are 40yds away

[young swan]

i cant speak to survival

i can only tell you why it works that way for fury

[thorn steeple]

i dont mind rampage delay for ww stack

i do mind thunder clap tho

[young swan]

I think the delay for tc is just because its slow to consume the old buff so its slow to apply the new one

but idk

they fucked around with that shit a lot this beta cycle

super annoying

[young swan]

#1423009037808570418

[flat river]

huge fury tier buff

[sullen dove]

2.5sec cdr

lockin

[kind python]

Isn't execute suppose to proc reap now? Or is that something in Midnight

[frail mesa]

Why do we not take rampaging ruin in dungeons?

[young swan]

midnight, it didnt make it into prepatch

[young swan]

cause it sucks

[frail mesa]

I figured that was the answer was gonna get

But why does it suck, it seems like it would do a lot more damage

[fluid grove]

A man of honor

[jade badger]

If you hit ww/tc on st for filler you just tanked your rampage damage

and it's a loss on 5 or less targets regardless

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-salut-salute-بسبس-تحيه-gif-11022171827428701157

[olive wraith]

It replace rampage damage. So you only do what the tooltip says. Last I heard it only beat outs base claved ramp at like 4 targets

[median marsh]

yo, how do you do that with arc?
i really want to do the same

[jade badger]

Ramp Ruin does 60% to all targets instead of 100% to primary and 65% to 4 targets, it's a loss on less than 6

[dry pendant]

very nice man

[dense elbow]

Normally you do a cleaved rampage, so you first got to get more value from hitting enough targets to start gaining value from the talent.

Now, add that you also can miss the ruin AoE as it is a frontal, while you position yourself to hit with your normal WW cleave on top.

Add that you now are all about area denial not lessening your value, nor tanks not pixelstacking mobs as much as possible.

Your ST and prio damage 'can' suffer. Situational, but it is there.

There are a lot of drawbacks for a minor positive.

[olive wraith]

There ya go you got some math also

It’s soft capped too isn’t it?

[glacial isle]

Is anything changing in regards to bis race for warrior?

[dense elbow]

Math was already mentioned, luckilly, so I didnt have to look up the new numbers

[dense elbow]

No. Nelf still BiS Trust me, I play Nelf

[olive wraith]

Bis race is a lie for 99% of us

[dense sedge]

I’m fancying a velf this time around

[dapper kindle]

everyone knows human master race, how else do we get a oopsie remove stun option?!?

[fluid grove]

Dwarf

[dense elbow]

If you dont see the ultimate value of Shadowmeld and omnidodge, ya are a lost cause and dont deserve the Nelf

Filthy non-nelfs

[dapper kindle]

need another sylvanas 2.0 and a world tree burning imo

[young swan]

changes every patch

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-attack-anime-crazy-cat-gif-15819766808545622067

[dense sedge]

I play a Tauren and love it maybe it’s not always as useful as having shadowmeld but I get a lot of use out war stomp

[dense elbow]

warstomp is now actually just neat, so happy for you

[dense sedge]

Thanks

[olive wraith]

Extra stop is pretty nice

[clever abyss]

got new myth track pants, cant put stormbound on it?

[pure echo]

so better cooldown manager sucks and bricks the moment i start combat. Anyone have another more editable cooldown manager suggestion?

it also doesn't show odyn's fury was used when it was before it bricks lmao

[fluid grove]

Stoneform

[dusk matrix]

Probably been asked but has anyone found a way to track the 4 stacks of whirlwind in a bar or very visually obvious way

[jade badger]

Arc imports have been dropped and someone is working on a direct addon

[runic acorn]

Seeing top parses with darkmoon deck radiance, is it tuned crazy?

[brittle veldt]

Iunno if this has been answered elsewhere, but why do we take avatar over bladestorm atm? Is it just more damage even with the dead slayer talents?

[winter shoal]

yeah it's giving like 7k secondary stat

[civic jay]

Arc works - but its got the old animation delay, so worth waiting for a little bit before diving in

[winter shoal]

bad squish job

[white grove]

timewalking gear great

[winter shoal]

In single target (which is the only place you'd want to play slayer anyways in prepatch) yes

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-hands-up-close-up-gun-gif-5459893182316367885

give me one

[thorn steeple]

Check back in a couple hrs guys

[brittle veldt]

Figured so, thanks

[winter shoal]

did lil bro ever respond to my questions about this potentially getting out of sync with the real ww buff

if not then

nvm they did but still deadge

#1423009037808570418 message

[civic jay]

Total side. Again, just jumping in and figuring things out, but curious what you're using to get the Rage and Health divided into 2 bars? Got Arc working for rage bar, but not found a solution for health bar yet.
Gimme back my WA's =[

[thorn steeple]

Sensei bars addon

[civic jay]

Why thank you senpai

[winter shoal]

Nvm I was getting this addon and the other person's addon confused, but same question to you about rampage getting parried or moving out of range

[thorn steeple]

the one i made doesnt seem to go out of sync

because it's manual logic

[winter shoal]

Describe the manual logic

If you've tested it on dummies, I don't think they can parry

If you're only looking at cast success events, I don't think that's going to be 100% consistent

[worthy geyser]

do you guys just have two instances of the abilities on screen (cdm and the actual bars themselves) or do you hide your combat action bars

feels redudntant to have the icons on the screen twice

[winter shoal]

It'll probably be good enough most of the time, but not necessarily always

[thorn steeple]

ye..just pve i

[winter shoal]

I have my action bars hidden unless I mouse over them

[unborn delta]

my bars are my cdm

[velvet drum]

Do we have ANY way of playing sounds for procs in this game? the cooldown manager doesnt have certain procs of other toons i play

[thorn steeple]

where can i target test parries?

[winter shoal]

Good question

Duel someone maybe

Not sure if the tank dummy can parry

[dense elbow]

what ya want to test?

If it is effect when something is parried, find a BDK, they got 70-80% parry, ez check and quite consistent for testing

[thorn steeple]

ok

[winter shoal]

I'm like 99% sure the reason rampage decrements its ww stacks at the end of the "channel" is in case it gets parried, so addons which listen for the rampage cast event might remove a WW stack when the parry causes the "real" stack to not be removed

The weakaura from last season that worked around it used a combination of the cast event + querying the actual buff to force-sync it

But afaik addons can't query the buff stacks anymore

[dense elbow]

Ah, that problem, I dont even think about it anymore. I use rampage and my headcomputer auto checks the coming stack amount and if WW is going to be needed or nah

wonder if blizz will ever be able to fix that

prob in like two expansions

[dire canyon]

guys where are you using odyn's fury ? wowhead guide doesnt have it in the opener for slayer multitarget

[unkempt grotto]

my reflex was "After reckless abandon is over"

[olive wraith]

Before cd is my guess

Charge-odyns

[jolly ridge]

Hello for MT single target what do we press in our rotation

aoe is understandable but single target is a little confusing as to when to use thunderclap or just to wait for blast

[olive wraith]

Check wowhead rotations are updated I think

[dense elbow]

As the enrage enabler for the opener - get ww stack, pop reck-ava-OF, big dam, insta action

[dry pendant]

where to download, wanna test it

[thorn steeple]

still testing

it will be on curse

[dense elbow]

Careful, Hawke might give you a virus

https://tenor.com/view/jacksparrow-johnnydepp-pirate-spooky-magic-gif-11075885606474700306

[dire canyon]

are you guys using bladestorm or avatar as slayer? wowhead guide says to use bladestorm but archi said avatar for slayer on the updates channel

[shrewd ore]

i'm also working on a whirlwind tracker to get rid of that pesky delay, but a far far smaller addon intended to replace having whirlwind in the normal cooldown manager. it operates on cast successes like @winter shoal mentioned with a few pesky fringe cases to nail down

[dense elbow]

I done quite a bit of both in m+, ava is more dam. BS is more fun

Try both and see what you enjoy the most

[shrewd ore]

left is default cooldown manager right is custom addon for the whirlwind icons

[inner zinc]

really wish OF still gave WW stacks

that shit just kickstarts our dps

[feral ivy]

love this

something seems fishy

[marble swift]

blizzard's default dps meter looks like some ai slop intern project done on friday afternoon

tf is this

[feral ivy]

why are u using that? why not use regular details?

[marble swift]

arent they going to break details?

[feral ivy]

no idea but its working atm

[modest condor]

@fickle bluff stop cheating

[feral ivy]

LOL

[frail mesa]

I see, thank you. That all makes sense

[feral ivy]

that was NK and this is dimmy HES DOING IT AGAIN!!!!

[modest condor]

he's just stealing sarri's tech

[feral ivy]

what tech?

[modest condor]

🤫

it involves the stat squish

[feral ivy]

... i think i know what ur talking about but his gear is the normal gear outside darkmoon deck

[slim pollen]

Yes, completely fine and intentional 👀

[plush ice]

So, for fury slayer, i dont need to take rend right? I need shockwave for a stun on demi and if we dont need rend it makes sense to move that point over there

[dense elbow]

Feel free to drop rend

[edgy widget]

its very minor in ST, like 0.6% and only used ahead of Whirlwind

has a lil more value in multitarget, assuming the DoT gets to tick out

[plush ice]

oh, i mean we use it at all if we do have it? unless i'm dumb (and indeed i am dumb) i don't see it listed on the rotation page of either wowhead or icy veins

[edgy widget]

the current builds don't recommend using it, because talent points are at a premium at L80; there are just much more important things to take to path down the tree

I can add it later, but it's literally your last priority before Whirlwind, which means you'd only press it like twice per fight anyway

[edgy widget]

as I said

[plush ice]

kk, makes sense, not worried about it, just wanted to make sure i didn't miss anything big and i've always been a stun on it

so i kinda do need shockwave for my team

[onyx linden]

any idea why cant i click on the nameplates on the sides? like 1/5 of the bar on both sides are inactive

[silk wharf]

Im not sure if you can still do this but plater has/had a clickable area setting.

[feral ivy]

they fixed radiance 🙁

[winter shoal]

What addon?

[onyx linden]

plater

[onyx linden]

i was searching for that, but didnt find it, would be nice to know where

[winter shoal]

I'm p sure there's a setting for it but let me see if I can find it

I think plater is in a "stable enough to use" state though rather than a feature-complete state at this point

If you're using Jundies, the platynator profile is basically the same thing

[keen hamlet]

Why is execute such low prio on multi-target thane?

Also it T-clap basically just an off cd use instead of pressing every 4?

[winter shoal]

Yeah clappa spam pretty good with storm surge

[keen hamlet]

even when its not t-blast tho??

i dont like it, takes away from the rythm of the every 4 spells gameplay loop

[onyx linden]

this is a quazii profile

but yea, might be fixed with an update

[keen hamlet]

so basically you're just spamming bloodthirst and t-clap between rampage casts, then filling with execute and raging bro

feels wrong af

[onyx linden]

idk, wasnt the same in S3?

except we didnt even press exe

[keen hamlet]

I didn't play S3, returning to game

[onyx linden]

then just get used to it :DD

[keen hamlet]

imo if youre not actually making use of the 4 spells between each T-clap or whirlwind, they've designed it wrong

[onyx linden]

you can, if you dont have blast

[keen hamlet]

not according to that prio list lol

[onyx linden]

true

[young swan]

u can only fit in like 2 abilities every bt/tclap

[keen hamlet]

at that point then just bring back old whirlwind buff when it only have 2

[onyx linden]

its just thane tho

[young swan]

that just sounds bad

[turbid bay]

Has anyone been able to get their enrage as a second resource bar or even whirlwind stacks

[keen hamlet]

also im sure that reckless abandon changes prio a lot but there no option on wowhead for it

[steady wharf]

can get it using arcui

[keen hamlet]

yes

[turbid bay]

Arcui aight ill give it a look

Been messing with sensei and another

But will swap

[keen hamlet]

top left is enrage, top right is whirlwind stacks

thats with arc ui

[turbid bay]

Yeah cheers ill try messing with it a bit

[keen hamlet]

also i made it so the colors change on the enrage bar based on how long is remaining, so red at 4 sec or more, orange at 3 sec, yellow at 2 sec, white at 1 sec or less

[turbid bay]

Nice

[undone topaz]

Never been a fan of things changing color based on high/low number. Too much visual clutter for me

[turbid bay]

Also i did a big addon cull does anyone remember what the addon is called to get rid of the whirlwind consumption jank with rampage

Where it does chew the stack until the end of the gcd does it still work?

[keen hamlet]

do you mean how its delayed? I didnt know there was addon to fix that, would be nice to have

[turbid bay]

There was something that fixed it cant remember what it was someone will know here

[keen hamlet]

yeah im experimenting, I might change it idk

[boreal dock]

What are the talents of Fury ST now?

[keen hamlet]

im just using wowhead builds

[young swan]

it doesnt change it at all im pretty sure

otherwise it wouldve been put in

[keen hamlet]

ah ok

[thorny jewel]

Hey all, against ST raid dummy with only self-buffs and 170 ilvl, what dps should I be aiming for?

[olive wraith]

Give it some time I’m not sure if the bot has been ironed out yet

[thorny jewel]

Looking at the MT rotation, ST seems similar to Slayer in prioritizing RB over BT, that's ok, I'm used to that, but AOE MT rotation, priorities BT over RB? Am I understanding this right?

[olive wraith]

Ya bt is good for thane

[thorny jewel]

Ah I guess Bloodborne with thunderclap-rend

[ornate orchid]

i feel like im wielding wet noodles...granted im level 25 but still

[quartz matrix]

Its because BT is what procs thunder blast

[thorny jewel]

Ah well then yeah, have not played MT fury since S2

[olive wraith]

Level 25

[ornate orchid]

level 6 or level 7

[honest trail]

Wondering as Thane, do we press Exec on CD during Exec phase? Leaving RB out of the rotation almost completely, as BT, Ramp, Exec & Blast are always available

[robust sedge]

iss BT still dead for slayer?

[pallid barn]

Is the dark moon deck radiance good? Saw Archi use it on dimmy

[olive wraith]

My guess is rb is straight filler at that point

[olive wraith]

I don’t think so

[honest trail]

Fair enough

[honest trail]

No it does decent dmg

But RB is still higher prio

So you just press it from time to time

[robust sedge]

copy, trying to determine also pvp angle also since the massive healing adjusments to slayer w/BT

[frank dawn]

I'm not sure why it took me so long to realize this is the signature and powerful ability tuning target

it all makes sense now

[silent swift]

Reckon max heroic Scream of Forgotten Sky beats outs max mythic Antenna?

[pearl sequoia]

probably not

[gloomy lynx]

Yes it’s really op rn abuse it before it gets nerfed

[silent swift]

Didnt it already get fixed?

[sour tundra]

is BT or RB higher priority now?

[olive wraith]

For?

[sour tundra]

thane

[olive wraith]

Bt

[red coral]

is this uh normal now

(st dummy)

[compact knot]

yes

[wraith wharf]

am i missing something or why does slayer currently pick up rend when its not even listed in the rotation

[red coral]

because the talent trees are ass and there's nothing else to get

[wraith wharf]

fair enough

[red coral]

feel like i woke up and its 2019 and i just logged onto classic wow

white swings one of my highest dmg sources and half my talent nodes suck

👍

[summer quail]

don't worry autos are nerfed in midnight, just not preseason. they still do quite a bit but are nerfed by 25% compared to live

[red coral]

oh ok ty

[opal tapir]

How much DPS are you guys getting on dummies ST? I am trying to guage where im at

With no buffs/consumables

[crude cobalt]

I must be going crazy, but does recrafting items essentially just cost the price of a completely new craft? I jsut remade a ring to fit better stats and it ate the gilded etheral, 30 bonus and a spark even though it was just a recraft and was already at max rank

[red coral]

i just whacked the dummy again and this was 37k with just battle shout

[opal tapir]

Is details fixed now?

Or still cooked. I've just been using the in game one

[red coral]

its fine. afaik it basically just reskins the in game dmg meter

someone can correct me if there's added functionality

[opal tapir]

I'm sitting around 36k so can't be too far off then. Cheers

Feels weird pressing execute constantly

[pure echo]

those of you that have used sensei class bar, can you snap it to stuff or itself?

or anyone know their discord if they have one so i can ask? would ideally like to have them all as one big ass bar lmao

[deft palm]

can we use slayer in M+

also i see a lot of fury warriors with verse gear

whats with that

[olive wraith]

You can use whatever you want

[jovial raven]

anyone know if bloodthirst reap the storm proc chance scales in aoe still

im testing it doing about the same st vs aoe

[hollow leaf]

did a quick 12 gambit, this feels weird

[marble trench]

Was it meant for us to lose Enrage Regen? Why isn't it just a normal defensive. Did we lose one? Or gain it somewhere else?

I also feel like Battlefield commander is useless outside of extremely niche things, but it's requiring us to take it. Is that right?

[hollow leaf]

Warpaint is better, and taking both requires giving up Cruelty, Massacre, Deep Wounds, Exec Wrath, or something else that's way better. It's just an error of blizzard's tree design that they hopefully fix.

[frank dawn]

You can drop a point in the middle to get Enrage Regen if you want.

Battlefield Commander also gives you 3% more attack power from shout

[deft palm]

i feel like im getting out dpsed by people 15 ilvls lower then me

i feel like a wet noodle

[marble trench]

I mean it's pre-patch. you probably will, until they actually release midnight

[olive wraith]

It doesn’t

[olive wraith]

Drop your build

[deft palm]

[olive wraith]

As in share it

[cobalt horizon]

lol symbiosis already nerfed

geeg

[edgy widget]

they've both been fixed

[cobalt horizon]

just in time for raid

[edgy widget]

raid flops anyway

[cobalt horizon]

yeh but I wanted to be the reason it flopped

I am doing like 30k ST as slayer

i have no idea what's good right now

my UI keeps wigging out

everything sucks

[hardy cargo]

its by design the slayer st raid build does not take bladestorm correct

[woven valley]

Correct

Prepatch jank

[cobalt horizon]

it's actually crazy how fast Reck and ava come back up

[clever abyss]

Kinda excited for the apex talents

[drowsy heron]

i'd be more excited if they fixed Rampaging Ruin

[abstract solar]

What's going on with Rampaging Ruin atm? I'm late to the party

[edgy widget]

it's just niche to the point of never being used

which honestly isn't a big deal, its one less required talent to worry about

[abstract solar]

ty ty, and thanks as always for all the work you all do!

[hybrid yew]

is mountain thane our de-facto "raid cleave" spec now since slayer has no tier set AoE?

[sullen dove]

ya

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-my-cluegi-life-cluegi-egirl-egirl-smoking-brainrot-gif-4571058359112947106

[mossy pelican]

this trinket is so cringe

[median marsh]

the only questions i have is whats "more simple" - arcUI or the cooldown centerd
its seems to they both nice option, but i am having issues every time i am swappin slayer / thane - due to 1 more / 1 less icon
how do you guys handle it?

[jade badger]

Is thunderblast stating it does less damage than thunderclap just a tooltip error?

[drowsy heron]

i havent looked too much into Arcui, but i dont think its very simple

[sudden tusk]

arcui is decent but you have to tinker with it a lot

[ornate orchid]

we just need fel cleave

[lofty delta]

When you make a bar, instead of duration you make it stacks.

[lofty delta]

So much, you can get good almost weakauras like results but you gotta fuck with it so much

[acoustic scarab]

Hello
What's the best spec for warrior un MM+ pls ?

[sudden tusk]

main trouble with arcui for widespread use is how cusomizable it actually is. Compared to many other options it's for sure not very plug and play

thane

[undone flower]

my main trouble with arcui : the UI of arcui

[digital mauve]

So how does fury feels rn compared to the reap the storm era ?

[jade badger]

it's prepatch everything falls over too fast to care

feels good tho

[digital mauve]

So not clunkier for fury ? Hope it's the same for arms...

[jade badger]

you'll definitely have to retrain your brain to not spam rb non stop in aoe but it's pretty smooth

[digital mauve]

Good

[heavy dock]

so guys for anyone playing, how many broken things happened since statsquish? i heard ascendancy was insane but it got patched

timewalking mobs are overstatted as per usual with squishes

[dense brook]

cani make my own rage bar in game or what

whats the alternative

[thorn steeple]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/iww-improved-whirlwind-tracker-simplified

Hey guys., i made this addon for WW stacks

try it and let me know what you think

[radiant plank]

@fickle bluff your unique way of tracking WW stacks is back

[limpid hollow]

oo

[thorn steeple]

There are some bugs due to Blizzard's Blackbox thing, I can't seem to get around it.. but i'm testing

[iron kernel]

WW stacks, Enrage, Rage

ArcUI

[fickle bluff]

[warm sable]

Is there any way to get an icon to show up on my screen when I am in def stance? I need something that replicates a 'Remember you are in def stance' WA

[heavy dock]

make an auction bar be only 1 slot and put it at the top of your screen

with a swap macro

probably the easiest way :kekw: you're just gonna see the other stance too

[warm sable]

Yeah I have done exactly that, I would prefer something that only shows up when I have the def stance buff though 🙁

[worn sapphire]

During pre patch is fury or arms better? Like is 1 spec way better than the other or is both equal?

[blissful hound]

Mount Thane Fury gaps anything atm

[median umbra]

#updates-midnight message

[worn sapphire]

Ty for both replies!

[honest trail]

I swear I gave Thane quite some tries but I just can't like it

Pls give us Beta build

So I can Slayer M+ 🥲

[white grove]

I need to learn how to use arcui. I had it showing odyns fury, my rage bar, rally, and nothing else would show

[iron kernel]

https://youtu.be/faERTFu6bOo?si=g5qCJHytWIWmsUNR&t=104

I saw it here

with time code

[white grove]

Well shit, I just saw that video in my feed too

Thanks

[iron kernel]

np

if u do like in that video and dont see stack on bar

use it here

[white grove]

K

[fickle bluff]

ok my feedback is:
the black border around the icons needs to go
an option to display vertically
option to crop the height of the icons

[thorn steeple]

Vertical. Interesting

[sterile stratus]

Guys is the class still fun. Haven't played yet and my guild disc is dooming about all the pruning.

[fickle bluff]

this is my old tracker id love to recreate

[radiant plank]

Please dont let him recreat that

[dawn swan]

Maybe you already know this, but the tracker is showing that bladestorm's BTs consume a stack when they don't. Otherwise it's working fine for me.

[fickle bluff]

[hardy shuttle]

Doesn't it not cast BTs anymore? No unhinged i thought. Idk ive just been clapping the past few days haven't looked at slayer much

[dawn swan]

Unhinged's still there.

[remote bobcat]

unhinged is in the slayer tree now

[hardy shuttle]

Gotcha I was just mixing it up from slayer so didnt even mess around with it

[mossy fox]

https://gyazo.com/f5c2be7c68d87c5017012317c148bcb7

imp ww tracker without delay made my day

[turbid gate]

question about rotation, is BT and Bloodbath just fillers or should we care about it?

[ornate orchid]

cant wait for dummies for houses, if there isnt any yet.

[honest trail]

Prio for Thane, kinda fillers for Slayer

[thorn steeple]

arcUi?

[delicate rock]

How did you fix the lag ?

[mossy fox]

^ ty @thorn steeple

[thorn steeple]

oh thats from iWW?

[remote bobcat]

yo hawke idk if u plan on working a bit more on that addon but if you do, please be so kinda to add options to move the stack count text around or options remove the border n stuff like that pretty please <3

Also theres a bug where you dont get the stacks shown with "Hide when no WW stacks" enabled when you open the fight with thunderclap

[oak raven]

im wondering.. what are we going as here pre-patch midnight? stomp or spin?

[mossy fox]

yeah

[humble lark]

what plater addon are peps using?

[mossy fox]

plater, jundies profile

[thorn steeple]

You talking specifcially on the border when using Icons right? I can see that border does not completely go away when set to 0 ( Only on icons )

for the text. i'll see what i can doo

[humble lark]

got a link to the profile?

[mossy fox]

no but i found it by googling it yesterday

[humble lark]

cool will try find it. thx crit

[mossy fox]

it'll be the wagk link

wago

[hardy shuttle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/comments/1qid60b/jundies_plater_updated_for_midnight/

Thats for platynator and plater. Make sure you click the right link

[humble lark]

yea did thanks guys ❤️

[remote bobcat]

yes for icons

[humble lark]

is there any working version of elvui up yet?

[remote bobcat]

tysm man

[thorn steeple]

yeah i made the icon 2px smaller than the backround so it peaks abit....i'll fix it

[honest trail]

So that's what we expecting for keys right?

[humble lark]

is there any ui changing addon like elvui?

[honest trail]

Auto attack ST doing more than AOE Rend as Thane in keys still is crazy tho

[onyx linden]

is this fixable? or we cant short names anymore?

[summer roost]

do we now use both thunderclap and ww on our rotation? meaning ww for aoe and thunderclap to apply rend+for thunderblast

[onyx linden]

why would you use ww?

[summer roost]

because thunderclap is not showing the "cause your next 4 st attacks bla blah" when i use it but ww does

maybe im bugged, i dunno

[onyx linden]

did you read our talents?

this

[summer roost]

yeh but as i said it wasnt showing as a "temporal buff" as it used to but ww does

its probably my ui

[onyx linden]

just go to a dummy, and use tc, you will see you get the buff

[hardy shuttle]

The buff is going to be whirlwind icon even if clap is what you pressed

If thats what you are confused about

[summer roost]

thanks 😄

[hardy shuttle]

The buff is improved whirlwind still. Clap just gives you that buff

[onyx linden]

i would assume you didnt play thane in this expansion 😄

[oak raven]

We going clap here in pre-patch?

[onyx linden]

yea we clappin

[hardy shuttle]

Oh we clap alright

[summer roost]

i did but i can't ask if i have a question as dumb as it may be?

[oak raven]

tighten them butt-cheeks and clap!!

[onyx linden]

you can, thats why we are here

[hardy shuttle]

[oak raven]

We are warriors, so dumb questions are allowed 😄 we just zug!

[hardy shuttle]

This was just 5t dummies for like 5 mins. But idk if I was even doing the rotation properly. But I was sitting at around 140k dps just fucking around last night

[thorn steeple]

the thunderclap bug i wasnt able to reproduce

[onyx linden]

not sure, but i think TC used to show the cleave in the tooltip

[remote bobcat]

lemme log on and record it rq

[honest trail]

Guys we agree than OF dmg comes after the enrage it gives? But Rampage dmg is calculted before the Enrage buff?

[remote bobcat]

It's historically supposed to be the other way around if anything

i didnt re-check but rampage definity enraged itself first before doing damage.

[honest trail]

So enraged Ramp or not enraged is the same dmg but we don't wanna cast OF out of enrage

?

I'm trying to check combat logs to check

[remote bobcat]

OF im not sure about i think it also counts for itself

But rampage 100% enraged itself before dealing dmg

[honest trail]

It looks like it

[honest trail]

I was never sure about that either to Ramp before losing enrage of I could get a gcd off again & ramp after

Even if out of enrage

[remote bobcat]

no you definitely could always drop enrage no problem as long as next gcd is either whirlwind/tclap or rampage

[honest trail]

I see, sounds good

Makes some timings smoothers

But yyeah from testing on dummy, OF seems to enrage 1st as well

[remote bobcat]

@thorn steeple https://outplayed.tv/media/VlRYzo

turns out the icons persist and still count down despite clicking away the buff

[humble lark]

is there any addon that can show cd on actionbars. like counting down on abilitys

[remote bobcat]

what?

the actionbars have always shown cooldowns since classic

or what do u mean

[honest trail]

The best addon of all : base UI

[thorn steeple]

cheers

[remote bobcat]

i hope this helps you in identifying a potential cause

[somber elk]

can we somehow track our battleshout for grp?

[remote bobcat]

thats rally, not battleshout

[honest trail]

True sorry

It glows when someoen in your party/raid

Doesn't have it

[remote bobcat]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/missing-class-buff

i believe this addon is what u want.

[honest trail]

Was confused about tracking Battle Shout cause I'm an idiot who spams it 50 times a min out of combat

[thorn steeple]

i think it's pretty funny we have no WAs but use 20 addons to do the same thing we used to do

maybe 20 is farfetched

i guess using 10 light addons to replace 1 heavy one is worth

[remote bobcat]

yep

[thorn steeple]

yeah i found it..bug with "must be in combat” gate

[remote bobcat]

despite me not having the combat check?

[thorn steeple]

yeah it was a bug

[remote bobcat]

aa

i see

[honest trail]

The main thing is you choose to use all of them but you don't need to & that's a huge difference

Choice vs (arguably) mandatory

& most of them now are visual customization

They don't offer information advantage to people who don't use anything

Which is the main focus of those changes

I'd advice everyone to do their best to replicate w/e they want with the base current UI

& then, maybe, try & add a couple of things if they really want to

[humble lark]

thanks mate. totaly missed that base ui had it 😄

[honest trail]

Rather that going all out on external tools from the get go

[humble lark]

yea its perfect

[formal jacinth]

Is there a reason to NOT macro recklessness/avatar now? Should I pop them together at all times?

[honest trail]

I don't think they ever unsync

Even with full Apex talents & stuff

So prob just macro em

[formal jacinth]

hmm gotcha

[iron kernel]

Thx, rly, that addon have no delay

[nimble kraken]

So the rampage breath window thing yea, that’s permission to stay on the raid boss and claim didn’t see the mechanics on my screen 🙂 ?

[honest trail]

I do not understand the question

[winter shoal]

did you ever get that whole parry thing sorted out?

[winter shoal]

that was an old version of the apex

[nimble kraken]

Weren’t they making a dk breath style thing where we’re supposed to really stick to the boss for rampage casts? Or did they scrap that?

[winter shoal]

that's not how it works anymore

[nimble kraken]

Oh thank god. I was worried that wasn’t going to mesh well with raid mechanics

[honest trail]

Rampaging Berserker has been changed a bit

[honest trail]

You now get a stack that gives 3% strenght for each Rampage used for 8s & each stack can overlap. Reckleness gives 5 stacks on cast

If I remember correctly

That's about it

[nimble kraken]

Ah that’s probably healthier imo, still want to send rampages but a bad window doesn’t bork you for the next 1.5 minutes

[honest trail]

Exec & Ramp are both fury's highest prio once we get Apex talents yes

We gonna spam those

But not for prepatch as much

[polar moon]

Why does the latest wowhead guide talent into Rend, but then Rend never shows up in the rotation?

[tight roost]

Its applied by tclap

[slate dagger]

Should I hold odyns if reck/avatar have a <10-15s cd?

[polar moon]

ah got it

[winter shoal]

no

[honest trail]

Odyn's Fury is kinda poop dmg 🙁

[glad coyote]

rend dmg

[honest trail]

But it's passive with Blast

So it's fine

Don't have to cast it

But yeah

It's done less dmg in full aoe than my autos in ST

In a full key

xD

& without adrenaline ofc

[rain crag]

@thorn steeple Absolute staple for me currently, thank you! 👊

I actually really like having the option for stack colours.. Only issue I've noticed so far is 4 stacks show green regardless of colour set i.e. If I set :

3+4 Blue
2 Pink
1 Red

I see :

4 Green
3 Blue
2 Pink
1 Red

[fervent tundra]

is rend super low prio atm?

seems like rampage > ragingblow/crushing blow > execute > bloodthirst > rend as a filler ?

for ST

I see people taking rend and then literally not clicking it in logs

[winter shoal]

correct

really only worth pressing in aoe, but in aoe you should be playing thane rn anyways, and thane auto-applies

[fervent tundra]

okay nice

i assume odyns is just rip on cd?

[winter shoal]

Yes

[warm crag]

can you tldr this for me

[winter shoal]

of course spongo

[warm crag]

thats not a tldr of the line i replied to

[winter shoal]

"no press rend"

[warm crag]

like 12 words is too much

[winter shoal]

two whole commas is a lot I know

[warm crag]

can you update me on whether the driver crash is being fixed that happens when you open the transmog screen

[winter shoal]

idk I'm not a transmog andy

I haven't set it up again yet since patch

[warm crag]

i wanted to see the gold costs people were complaining about

ppl be malding over tmog getting cheaper 👍

[winter shoal]

JUST FOR YOU I will log in and check

idk what driver issue though

nevermind NA servers down I guess I'll just not help my best friend spoingus

[warm crag]

i already looked

tmogging costs the same as before except you can set up loadouts for 100 and 200g for the 3rd and 4th slot ive not checked further than that and can swap between them for free

[calm swallow]

Did a couple of 10s last night with the new Mtn Thane; it definitely felt more hectic trying to figure out proper ability priority but it did feel really good. And I like that, as Thane, I don't have to worry about rend lol

[remote bobcat]

i mean it aint that hard you just click tblast and BT while enraged, rampage to enrage yourself, execute is juicy too and thats kinda it

other buttons to satisfy common needs, tclap for meat cleaver stacks and raging blow as generator

[dense elbow]

Hell yeah, it is all about having a blast playing!

Hectic yet fun, is what it is designed to be after all

[late elm]

am i blind or do the current wowhead m+ fury talents not have a single defensive? (not counting rallying cry as a defensive really)? No DR abilities?

[dense elbow]

You got warpaint and stancemastery - those are a lot of dpower. You also ofc bring SR and VR.

So should be plenty

[winter shoal]

SR +dstance

[late elm]

it doesnt have stance mastery

[dense elbow]

Well, ya will only need it for most keys if your tank dies

Got healer prefer me tanking over our Paladin tank atm, Dstance with mastery is stronk

[vagrant nimbus]

Noticed that if you're in combat and out of range of everything and press Whirlwind/Thunder Clap it shows 4 stacks even though you didn't get any since nothing was hit

[late elm]

so we simply dont need defesnsives?

[dense elbow]

Not beyond what we already have, Dstance and warpaint, for most cases - combined with SR and VC

[warm crag]

you do but i wouldnt put too much thought into prepatch talent trees where nothing matters and the next real content is months away

good opportunity to learn how to dstance i suppose

[dense elbow]

We got plenty of stuff, we just lost enraged regen

[honest trail]

Stance & Spell reflect + Imp Victory are already great tools

• fury has decent base armor & hp

[winter shoal]

I need an addon to yell at me when I dstance ong

Was sat dstance for 45m yesterday before I realized

[warm crag]

noob

[coarse nest]

Think the buff tracker talked about earlier will do that

#fury message

[dense elbow]

Dstance needs a permanent shield icon over your head when you are in it

or bring back ghostshield

[coarse nest]

Rip ka-ching

[thorn steeple]

Yeah dont do that for now.
Unfortunate bug due to probably blizzard’s APi restriction. Im still testing it

[calm swallow]

I think I'm just used to RB/CB being such high priority for warrior that it felt weird not pressing it, especially during Reck lol

[quiet swallow]

Is there some kinda addon that makes it easier for me to see when to reapply Rend?

[late elm]

cdm

[silk wharf]

While thane you will apply it naturally (through clap) and I think it's pure last-in-line filler, above ww, for slayer.

[late elm]

do we never use ww as thane?

[silk wharf]

Not really. Clap just does everything ww does while doing more damage.

[remote bobcat]

not rly no

[olive wraith]

Ignore rend

[quiet swallow]

so even ST we are not even using rend even tho we are talented in it?

[clever abyss]

Does prio change at all with apex talents & rampage giving us str & also reduced rage count during reck

[remote bobcat]

we dont talent into it

as slayer

afaik

i suppose we can drop bounding stride for rend but that just sounds stupid when we basically dont click rend anyway

[sullen dove]

first wowhead build or whatever talents it but yea only use above ww in the case where you have 0 other abilities to press

[remote bobcat]

i guess

it's one of those talent nodes for slayer that dont rly need taking

like wrecking throw

like yea we could always have wrecking throw in s3 even on non-shielded bosses for a small hit on combat start but who gives right

[dense elbow]

wrecking throw is a feels neat button

[late elm]

oh did they change it from beta? wrecking throw was an extra interrupt there

[dense elbow]

I just use it as a shielkdbreaker and in essence heroic throw that does damage

[late elm]

oh nvm, it was another talent that made it interrupt

[edgy widget]

this is correct, although the flipside is that it's a very boring buff now - you have no real control over it, and because there aren't random resource procs like Unbridled Ferocity anymore, the pacing of Rampage (and Berserk stacks) is very consistent

It's basically Frenzy #2 now

[oblique pond]

so is the sudden death proccing reap not in the pre patch?

[dense elbow]

sadly not

cause it is

[glad coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/itslit-lit-fire-emoji-gif-4901950

[untold yacht]

didnt anybody elses WW stacks disappear from Arc UI?

[worn sapphire]

Is Darkmoon Deck: Radiance broken or something? i see the top ppl on dimensius logs using it

[dense elbow]

it was bugged, it been fixed

[worn sapphire]

ahh ok ok

[sleek parrot]

What to drop for enraged regen if I want to keep improved ww

[frank dawn]

anything strange on logs the past few days has a 99% chance of being bugged/unsquished/etc

[wicked gazelle]

do we know if the diff weapon embel is still op?

[olive wraith]

ER is skip able fwiw

[dense elbow]

I dont, I am just testing Fury the ethical way :v

[sleek parrot]

I know its skippable but I dont want to skip oue only defensive, what is the lowest dps loss in multi target if I want to keep it

[olive wraith]

It’s not our only defensive

You have stance mastery

[inner zinc]

We dont run it

[olive wraith]

And sr

[inner zinc]

All we have atm is SR and D stance

Assuming you go by the wowhead talent build

[olive wraith]

If you really want to take it then ya take off something I guess. Unfortunately I don’t know what’s the lowest dps loss

[sleek parrot]

I'm not gonna bother stance swapping, just give me something to drop for er

[olive wraith]

Don’t understand that take but you do you

What’s your talent setup atm

[unborn delta]

stance swapping is op in midnight its a 30% DR with no cd

not using it is like refusing to use rampage because youd rather enrage with the 45% chance from bloodthirst

[olive wraith]

Not really the same

[coarse nest]

D stance will save your ass!

Insane not to use

[olive wraith]

Why not drop warpaint?

No damage loss

[unborn delta]

/cast [stance:2] Defensive Stance; [stance:1] Berserker Stance

warpaint is a flat 10% dr 😐

[verbal garden]

Are there any interrupt trackers available for the patch? My kicks are way down and its bugging me.

[coarse nest]

Living is the largest dps increase

[unborn delta]

if you arent gonna stance swap its prob more important than enraged regen tbh

because if you dont do that you probably arent good about pressing defensive cooldowns to begin with

so better to have the flat dr from warpaint

[dense elbow]

Dying is a skill issue, git good

[olive wraith]

Just trying to give the guy options

The play is actually drop ER but he doesn’t seem down with that

[unborn delta]

in terms of raidbots simming yea

[coarse nest]

I’m chillin with my 40% DR and full heal bloodthirsts and impending victory and spell reflect

Lmao

[unborn delta]

but honestly during prog next tier ill prob drop the autos cant miss or something on fury

[olive wraith]

Idk about that one

[unborn delta]

just gotta stand behind boss

not hard

[dense elbow]

Autos is now a lot of your dam

[olive wraith]

Autos still orettt big iirc

[dense elbow]

that is not what miss is

you thinking of parry

[olive wraith]

That’s parry

[dense elbow]

miss is just chance to miss, not to hit. Not to get parried

[unborn delta]

forgot they made our dmg profile ass again

[sleek parrot]

So we didn't get a suggestion for er still?

[unborn delta]

40% dmg from autos

[olive wraith]

Warpaint

If you’d scroll up 4 lines

[sleek parrot]

Idk about that, that's flat 10% without me doing anything, give me some dps thing

[olive wraith]

lol

[unborn delta]

look at the damn tree

theres nothing else

[olive wraith]

I got nothing else bud

[unborn delta]

you get to pick 3 of the 4: ER, warpaint, autos cant miss, improved whirlwind

[sleek parrot]

Ok so we have a bad tree is what you are saying

[unborn delta]

they gotta make ER baseline fury

[sleek parrot]

Agreed

[olive wraith]

Yes bad tree

But also ER isn’t necessary

[sleek parrot]

It's muscle memory, it's been my oh shit button for years

[unborn delta]

you can bind stance swap to that hotkey

[olive wraith]

Put a d stance macro ins place

Ya

[unborn delta]

/cast [stance:2] Defensive Stance; [stance:1] Berserker Stance

[dense elbow]

Here ya go

[sleek parrot]

That's more for preventing damage, once you already take damage swapping stance won't help much

Ill check this out

[unborn delta]

same is true for enraged regen? you want to pop it before for the 30% dr

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-cats-gif-14317670277085954258

[unborn delta]

can heal with bt but could also hit impending victory/lockrock/healthpot

using ER just to heal is kind of a waste

[sleek parrot]

Er can full heal me in 2 globals without relying on healer

[unborn delta]

healthpot can full heal you in 0 globals

[dense elbow]

Pot can do that without a gcd

dang, beat to it

[unborn delta]

why are we so stupid 😭

[dense elbow]

I meant to say healthstone, so I am unique

[unborn delta]

i stopped playing warrior for 2 weeks and felt my mental capacity restoring and then when i started playing it again it went back down

[sleek parrot]

Let's just stick to "tree bad", can't disagree with that

[dense elbow]

I kinda like it, a few faults aside

[sleek parrot]

I mean idc, just give me er baseline and I'm fine

[dense elbow]

Just use what I linked, and ya will be fine and have ER

everyone wins

[sleek parrot]

You just dropped bloodborne right?

[dense elbow]

deft, but yeah

[lone portal]

So we play slayer no bladestorm right now in raid? weird

[thick fossil]

You could go play devourer. I hear that one is rather engaging.

[lone portal]

Just grabbed the wowhead build to go bully mage tower lol

[dense elbow]

Just skip it in M+ too, avatar is good value 👍

[lone portal]

wicked, thanks cat

[thick fossil]

It feels weird losing Dragon roar. Especially when playing prot. It was another good agro button on the start of pulls.

[dense elbow]

it feels weird cause I have used it for so long. That said, I dont miss roar at all

[unreal onyx]

feels weird playing thane again

[thick fossil]

The thing I hate the most is the choice of Bladestorm and Avatar. What a strange node, when Bladestorm is no where near the strength of Avatar.

[onyx linden]

As slayer I didnt really used it in raid almost at all, was just a better filler than slam

So not gonna miss it

[unreal onyx]

at least we get OF back

[dense elbow]

Wdum back?

OF never left

[onyx linden]

We didnt use OF since s1

So we got it back

[unreal onyx]

well, being viable

you could've also played RA last season but no one did

[dense elbow]

Smh, sounds like a you issue for not believing in OF value as a powerful signature ability

[onyx linden]

Well it wasnt powerful

[unreal onyx]

if it was powerful we would've used it

[dense elbow]

Nah, it was "a theoretical gain of DPS on AoE"

ya think Funky forgets? Funky never forgets

[onyx linden]

In m+, 5 ppl used it sure

[median marsh]

amazing addon
i found 1 issue -
when i cast WW, its making 4 stacks even if i didnt hit anything
it is happening while i am in combat but far from any target

[median marsh]

very nice!
how did you do that?

[coarse nest]

Looks like arcui

[prisma forge]

Heyho, i watched over the Slayer Raid Single Target Build.
Seems there is a mistake in it.
Why is Violent euphoria and unhinged choosen in the Hero Tree, when Avatar is chosen? That doesnt Work cause Euphoria and unhinged need Bladestorm?

[silk wharf]

The talents in the other branch also don't work. I assume the reap talent is worth less than the executioners one.

[lunar oracle]

@thorn steeple Works a treat bud ty 👍🏻

[dense sedge]

Just checking the talents on wowhead shame it doesnt look like piercing howl is taken i was hoping to be able to scream at my party more

[median marsh]

is elvui working?

[warm crag]

just take it or

[silk wharf]

I dropped rend to pick up howl

Seemed easy

[turbid gate]

Guys do we care about rend tracking or w/e?

[silk wharf]

Not particularly. It's kept up by clap for thane and is the bottom filler for slayer.

[unborn delta]

Warrior wechat is wrong. 勇士微信有错。Practice the fury specialization. 练习狂暴专精。Use two large swords. 使用两把大剑。Adds don't matter. 添加并不重要。Administrators are hiding thirty hit build. 管理员隐藏了三十个命中版本。

[turbid gate]

so if i drop it on slayer i won't be loosing too much dps i guess

[cinder mountain]

I like that Rally's back on the menu for m+ I love being able to have a healing CD to help out my group in heavy group aoe damage situations

[silk wharf]

That is my assumption. Though I have no sims or data, just an educated guess.