fury

[modest condor]

are you going to be lvl 81 in prepatch?

[weak tartan]

you could say no, they are unlocked at the start of lvl 81

but you answered the question indirectly so thanks

[glad coyote]

anybody have a good basic clean plater profile for m+?

[winter shoal]

Big fan of jundies

https://wago.io/ak3iS95aa

There's a WIP platynator profile as well for midnight https://wago.io/zaiOOdVa1

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-rocking-crazy-crazy-seal-insane-man-gif-6717527695886076289

[plush zephyr]

Better than Plater

[winter shoal]

I haven't used plater on ptr so idk but both are neutered compared to live plater

[undone flower]

Plater don’t have a midnight version yet no ?

[pearl sequoia]

Platynator is the midnight version

[undone flower]

Mb 2 days ago the plater update is prepatch ready

[fading sky]

i think Plater actually has midnight version as well ❤️

[undone flower]

yep i checked the versions, the 14th january one is a prepatch version, not a fully midnight one

[fading sky]

ok 🙂

the platypus works fine though

ngl

[undone flower]

i will still try out plater first, since it's the one i currently use, it's a next week job so idc that much

[fading sky]

well did u make a new UI ?=

if u did FACKING SHARE IT 😄

i suck at that shit, i updated my normal player, and my color profile has changed. dno wth happened but its a fucking mess 😄 im makin so many mistakes .P

[loud viper]

People know what talent we gonna play in prepatch ?

[fading sky]

not the apex ones at least

[undone flower]

Not yet, but I just need a nameplate addon and one for the cd manager, i play with the base UI since DF

And I will do some m+ to notice what I’m missing

I don’t need anything raid specific to reclear Wednesday, I’m not really affected that much on the update

[fading sky]

NephUI

and plater solves that y

[undone flower]

For dimensius if I find nothing I will just do a macro /say front for p1 and /say melee for p2-p3

[high sedge]

my new ui will be bars in the middle of my screen

[loud viper]

Thanks i wasn't sure 😂

[fading sky]

haha 😄 shit will prob be posted once we get there they are workin on it, keep in mind there is tuning still ongoing

[loud viper]

Yeah i was thinking about this, but with tier etc maybe we have a closer look on what can be the best for prepatch

[fading sky]

tier changes i will say

slayer fury would have an issue, but latest tuning made it good again

😄 so dno

[summer urchin]

is offhand the second highest thing u should upg for dmg?

[remote bobcat]

Sims will tell you what your next best upgrade is

[summer urchin]

Ty

[fiery harbor]

will 1h mogging for fury warr unlock with prepatch this week?

or only on xpac launch

[junior oyster]

They said "transmog changes " release with prepatch

So im assuuuuming?

[brittle crow]

what did blizz do with the old execute animation

why is it gone

[warm crag]

you mean condemn?

that ones tied to the massacre talent iirc which we just dont click rn

[brittle crow]

no no

even base execute uses it now

massacre just adds the red effect

same animation

[warm crag]

oh you want the old old pre sl animation for it?

isnt it shared with some other abilities

[winter shoal]

Anything that works on prepatch should work on midnight and vice versa from a code perspective, the only thing that should be needed is setting the flag saying that 12.0.0 or 12.0.1 are supported, respectively

[undone flower]

idk how it works i just read the description of the current version

[thorny peak]

Killed mythic soul hunters got my boots feelsgoodman

[sullen dove]

[onyx linden]

does anyone has any idea why me spamming right click, or even accidentally right clicking while trying to use any skill interrupt the skill cast? this happened overnight, yesterday and before it was fine, noticed today while boosting and hit dummy for a while to even find out what causing the issue

short clip of it happening

another clip, even charge not going out, without dropping target

its almost like right click is in spellque now

but that would be stupid

[winter shoal]

Never seen that before, is this happening on live servers?

[onyx linden]

yea

only happens when i right click and use a spell at the same time

[winter shoal]

Second question, why the fuck do you have a very large BT crit tracker wa still

[onyx linden]

ah its an old wa

its just there

and the only thing that changed overnight was an elvui update, but turning off elvui and WA addons doesnt solve the issue, so its not related to them

[winter shoal]

So steps to reproduce are just

• spam a button
• spam right click on a nameplate

Expected behavior

• ability is cast on the targeted enemy

Actual behavior

• ability isn't cast at all

?

[plush zephyr]

Seems add on related lol

[onyx linden]

spam right click and any button at the same time

you dont even have to click on a nameplate

i can replicate it just spamming ww and right click

and ww not going out

[winter shoal]

Even not near mobs?

[remote bobcat]

QA aaaaahh message

love to see it

[winter shoal]

It's important to be specific

[winter shoal]

yeah idk it's not happening for me with any ability on any target count/range

Do you have some kind of healing addon running that casts spells on click? I think vuhdo and clique do that

I could see those clobbering some inputs or something

[onyx linden]

i dont have anything on right click

never had

[winter shoal]

Also any bugsack errors?

[onyx linden]

sec doing a clip next to a target

so this is clicking end executing at the same time

with a target next to me

[onyx linden]

never used that before

[winter shoal]

bugsack + buggrabber will let you see lua errors that are happening in your addons

very powerful

Seems to be fine for me

[onyx linden]

and yesterday it was fine for me too, so no idea what causing it

[shrewd mango]

yoo

[onyx linden]

will get those addons to see

[shrewd mango]

what expansion did we get the first version of meat cleaver?

or the ability so that whirlwind made us hit additonal target after

[onyx linden]

how do i use them to see if its an error?

[winter shoal]

Should be a minimap icon of a little bag, if you click it it'll bring up any errors that happened

You'll also hear a little high pitched "fatality" when the error happens

If there are no errors, it'll say so

[gleaming siren]

nooo, it's so much better if I can complain about errors with no way of troubleshooting them

[onyx linden]

its not an error tho, at least bugsack doesnt say it is

[gleaming siren]

(This happens too much with people asking me for help not directed at anyone here)

[winter shoal]

Good point mr capybara

[onyx linden]

but i will keep this addon for future use

[winter shoal]

Well at least you've narrowed the scope of what could be causing it

Schmidi are you brown man in midnight or

[gleaming siren]

who knows man

prob not?

Idek what's good

if Evoker is a 2-of that's likely what I'm playing

[winter shoal]

Last I heard, devoker was some sauce on beta

But that was ages ago

[gleaming siren]

It was also

turbo bugged

for literally ever

(positively)

[winter shoal]

#needthat

Instead we get colossus arms

[gleaming siren]

Idk if it still happens but the part where you consume your Fire Breath for damage

all that damage went to your main target

funny on Algethar tree boss when all the small adds spawn and the boss gets oneshot

[onyx linden]

ok found another occurrence

it even happens when you hold down right click and click with left to move and use a skill while doing that

same same but different scenario

[winter shoal]

Have you tried restarting your game and/or unplugging your mouse and keyboard

I'm like 90% serious

[onyx linden]

i went out for 4 hours and got home, did everything

delete cache

repair game

turn off some addons, not all yet

[winter shoal]

Rookie mistake, the dps is stored in the cache

[onyx linden]

checked mouse, but i didnt change anything on my logitech software

[winter shoal]

Nah this works fine for me too

cba clipping it but holding RMB and spamming LMB alongside a button works as expected with the ability being cast normally

[onyx linden]

yea i believe you, checked elvui and other forums, no ppl spamming it, so must be some me issue

but i cant think about anything happening overnight

[winter shoal]

Did you update to the latest elvui version

I have not

[onyx linden]

i did

[winter shoal]

I haven't updated my addons at all in a bit, let me try that

Nah even on the latest version of all my addons it's working fine

[onyx linden]

will try a different mouse

kinda sus

ok happens with a diff mouse, thats sorted too

after boost will check without any addon

thats my last idea atm

maybe i can download beta and check there 🤔

[onyx linden]

@winter shoal its a fucking addon, dont know which yet

but all addons off solved it

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-o7-lulu-salute-gif-9337607786989493988

[plush zephyr]

That shit felt terrible

[plush zephyr]

told you

[onyx linden]

its elvui, but how? i that was the 1st thing i disabled and it happened with it off

[plush zephyr]

Elvui seems pretty awful from what I’ve heard lmao

[smoky vale]

this shit is gonna hurt to do...

bro its gonna get rid of auto queue

or

spin during bs

[onyx linden]

thats the best thing in wa

[slim coral]

yes it really hurt my heart to press yes

[smoky vale]

im not crying you are

[slim coral]

now I just have to wait for a UI to drop that I can use for prepatch

idk which one I want to use yet

[smoky vale]

i think im gonna use neph

or wtv atrocity decides

[slim coral]

that's fair it all comes down to preference anyways

[young swan]

arcUI + action bars

way better than nephUI

[onyx linden]

show

[plush zephyr]

yes

[slim coral]

lets see the screenshot lil gup

[smoky vale]

[smoky vale]

looks valid

[young swan]

this is still with weakauras but u can make the exact same thing (minus the conditionals on buffs)

[smoky vale]

id be down

[slim coral]

set it up for me

[young swan]

no

[smoky vale]

i only said neph ui bc itd be little setup for me since i already did it on beta

[young swan]

bartender is aids and u cant share profiles without sending the entire addon data

its fucking weird

[warm crag]

woketender

[sullen dove]

chuds unable to play without wokeauras

me when default ui is more than adequate to play this mid game

[young swan]

shut the fuck up chudish

u will lose varka 50/50

[sullen dove]

that may be doing me favors

[young swan]

real.....

[sudden tusk]

gamba

https://tenor.com/view/feixiao-hsr-honkai-star-rail-cupcake-frosting-gif-15560736625427880549

[onyx linden]

it really was an addon issue, reported it on tukui discord and they fixed it in like 10 mins in a dev version https://github.com/tukui-org/ElvUI/compare/f496b059b031...56cfd97dce47

[winter shoal]

W

Weird that my elvui wasn't causing any issues though

[onyx linden]

Do you have “key down” enabled?

[winter shoal]

Uhhh don't remember tbh

[onyx linden]

When u press buttons, it triggers on press or release?

[winter shoal]

Couldn't tell you, shit just happens

[onyx linden]

Haha, yea, if you had key down, it doesnt happen there

[winter shoal]

Does their discord say if/when a prepatch version will be published?

[winter shoal]

🫡

[sullen dove]

WHEEEEEERES THE ELVUI STRIIIIING

I CAAAAANT PLAAAAAAY

[keen kindle]

masssive skill issue

[earnest canyon]

Winners don't use drugs elvui

[pearl grail]

I switched to the fury recently and the damage output felt like a breath of fresh air after being sick with the flu

[warm crag]

out of all addons to drop going into midnight surely elvui is the one

[rancid timber]

what build are we blasting in pre patch?

[sour tundra]

i forget, what do you need for 3k io?

all 13s?

[hardy quiver]

I think 3 or 4 13s and the rest 12s

If I'm not mistaken

[dense elbow]

4x 12, 4x 13
More or less based on how many you +++ or +

[hasty finch]

hi, what 727ilvl item i should craft?

http://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/pl-pl/character/eu/burning-legion/sandacz/

[radiant plank]

weapons

[dense elbow]

You can craft the full shabang by now, no?

[hasty finch]

yup

axe/sword/mace?

i should craft

[dense elbow]

Whatever you vibe with the most

Just dont make an int weapon

Make sure it is str

[hasty finch]

ok

[gleaming siren]

Funnily enough it might be the only one you need

(It won't be)

[brittle crow]

elvui in the big 2026

smells like over the age of 37 in here

[smoky vale]

all 12s

[dense elbow]

Mind that would be +++ and ++ 12s, not just 12s

[ancient crown]

is there a list of mechanics you can negate with spell reflect?

[young swan]

there use to be but not anymore im pretty sure

[trail bane]

Anyone know of a good place to get a neat addon package or something for prepatch?

[dense elbow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQQCkBEkOadsvO4sTphB1RwzC6Z_3kq00IFaBrCk5Eagz2Jeoox7D7Rk3XwXMINbh4lUg9Vr-3RgoB2/pubhtml

[young swan]

omg it still exists

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/kenjou-cat-500x-nods-gif-17142021169733722056

[smoky vale]

oh well

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/кот-gif-25363164

[balmy compass]

Will there be a change in prio rotation for fury warrior when pre patch is out

[dense elbow]

Yes, ya wont be spamming RB on every GCD to minmax AoE. Execute will do more damage and BT got some value for Slayer again.

Thane is Thane, as far I am aware. Only that execute isnt the worst button ever anymore, it is a better RB

[balmy compass]

👌

[winter shoal]

Thane will be doing lots of clapping during ava I think

Not just blasting

[clever belfry]

@warm crag

[warm crag]

hello

[clever belfry]

balls

[winter shoal]

:balls:

Sadge

[bright flax]

How many presses of slam in a key is too many

[winter shoal]

If you're fury, any

Fury should never press slam

[bright flax]

I see

[keen kindle]

Chief what are you like level 2

[sullen dove]

1/10 ragebait

[bright flax]

Not me actually

It was from a key I was in tho

[feral ivy]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mOD_dqrk_cddW7RBhaYTTOOvUFG5RH-rD0UXQXOgPcs/edit?gid=558120667#gid=558120667

lol "heartcleave" "predator" not a boosted booster or anything just ... "predator"

[eternal lance]

[smoky vale]

he is boosted as well

[hardy shuttle]

I always get nervous seeing those lists

I've caused some incidents

[dense elbow]

That is what you get for being so pesky

you are welcome

[limpid burrow]

What is our wish list for Midnight UI changes specific to warrior?

[hardy shuttle]

Im assuming that an addon will have this feature but all I want to do is separate my rage bar from my hp bar, then my ui will be basically identical

[unborn delta]

https://www.twitch.tv/moonyfangs/clip/DependableBlitheDumplingsFUNgineer-MTqtLXy4BhTQy0Dm

[remote bobcat]

yea

[remote bobcat]

rampage whirlwind stack interaction thats it

everything else you can do anyway

[limpid burrow]

in what way?

like the meat packer stacks?

[remote bobcat]

The meatcleaver stack gets reduced on the last hit of rampage rather than the initial hit so it looks delayed throwing a lot of people off.

Especially considering that it used to be on the first hit like with any other spell

they changed it some time in s2 i think and its awful

the only way to circumvent that was to code a completely customized weakaura for it but hey what can you do

every other thing that warriors want to track is trackable through the cooldown manager

kinda

[lilac temple]

Is anybody having problems macroing thunderclap? Thunderclap at times doesnt work but when thinderblast it works.

[hardy shuttle]

What do you need to macro? Did you accidentally type /cast Thunderblast instead of clap

[remote bobcat]

post your macro pls

[lilac temple]

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=2 Execute, Thunder Clap, Bloodthirst, Rampage
Was just missing around with this

[hardy shuttle]

[plush zephyr]

cast sequences are frowned upon and no one really uses them

also one button helper exists, which does that to more effect

also super ineffective considering which spec and when BT should be pressed in rotation

ig it wouldn't really matter in MT, but, again, 1 button exists and is better

[remote bobcat]

well aside from the fact that this castsequence is very very very bad. I am guessing the reason this eats up thunder claps is because of how thunderclap turning into thunderblast works in relation to the string requirements of castsequences as they have been very finnicky historically

[lilac temple]

Like i said im missing around and just wondering why it does that.

[winter shoal]

For a while you could also cheese this to get 5 casts per ww instead of 4, not sure if you still can

[sleek parrot]

2 more days to have fun with fury before it becomes giga boring in pre patch

[remote bobcat]

does our 2set and 4set turn off in prepatch?

I assume it does but nore sure

[smoky vale]

yeah

[modest condor]

yes and no

we no longer have our current tiersets, instead all the bonusses are just changed to % damage bonus

[remote bobcat]

losing current 2set is a generational loss of fun

[modest condor]

yes

[remote bobcat]

its crazy people deadass talk like we get one SD proc every 5-6 seconds because they're used to current 2set

[sullen dove]

you are boosted

[undone flower]

Your first spell in your sequence is execute

It will go to the second spell after successful cast of the first, you can’t execute outside execute hp threshold/sudden death

[sudden tusk]

Yeah other games you could like BS a one button setup but WoW hard destroys most attempts at it outside their own system. That macro will just reset to execute then do nothing until a SD proc

[dense elbow]

The (2) loss gonna sting

buti it will be neat to have a reset from the frequence too

[unborn delta]

with hekili im sure you could set something up to like read the next spell then press the hotkey but you would have to do it in AHK outside of the game which is prob against TOS

[lilac temple]

@oxxy3810 was just trying execute phase

[smoky vale]

true

[sour tundra]

will slayer still be the best mythic + spec for prepatch?

[young swan]

nope

[plush zephyr]

No, not really. Hekili also isn’t doing cast sequences.

[smoky vale]

hi xan

how have you been

[sudden tusk]

THANE

THE CLAPPA

[plush zephyr]

I found this wild ass pally cast sequence I showed archi forever ago I need to go find it

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail true

or false?

[oblique trail]

#showtooltip
/cast bloodbath
/cast rampage

[clever belfry]

annihilator is good

trust me

[oblique trail]

it all makes sense

one day they'll add the best talent back

and Fury will be good again

[winter shoal]

What a dogshit time to play fury man

[sullen dove]

3rd best fury's ever been

wah 1 button macro

as if we dont only press 3 buttons on cd anyway for the last 10 years

[modest condor]

if you've only played 3 seasons maybe

[sullen dove]

mm nah even if youve played 15

[hasty tree]

Do we know what is gone with prepatch e.g. upgrading items, spending cartel chips, crafting

[sullen dove]

imagine spending chips is fine and crafting to some degree idk bout upgrades

presume the ilvls are getting squished on prepatch too

[winter shoal]

I started in df s1 so not far off

[keen kindle]

Its still insane to me that people started wow in df

[plush zephyr]

? It’s the best Xpac

Wow literally peaked DF

[keen kindle]

HARD disagree

It was mid

Better peaks imo were Legion or wrath

[winter shoal]

I started playing in tbc but took many breaks and didn't raid heroic/mythic until df

[keen kindle]

Fair, fair

I've played since cata consistantly

Idk, I liked DF don't get me wrong, but I wouldn't put it on my greatest expansions of all time list

it's just...a bit short for me

Also because DF introduced so many annoying elements to wow, like Aug or the proffession rework

heavy on the proffesion rework

[young swan]

definitely not

filler xpac

transitional

just like tww

[sullen dove]

so we only gettin transitional xpacs now

cuz midnight is def hot garbage lmao

df def the best of the last 3 probably

whole vibes wise

[sullen dove]

u do latest archon quest yet

so peak

[summer quail]

will be better than tww. but i can't stand this expansion

[young swan]

im halfway thru

its really good

[sullen dove]

nodkrai think best genshins ever been

just all of the 8 chapters are complete heaters minus maybe 5 being a little strange

do wish they released more areas tho

only 2 zone updates in 4 patches kinda ahh

but already 100%'d all of new region and zone quests there are rly cool too

also u will be soon to behold i think if havent already some of the most beautiful characters ive ever seen in that game

[young swan]

oh yeah the moon sisters

[sullen dove]

yea

[young swan]

they were epic

[sullen dove]

flame designs

[young swan]

yeah straight gas

[sullen dove]

columbina actually looked like an ant next to them lol

[young swan]

nod krai easily the best zone

yeah its so funny lmfao

[sullen dove]

aura

[sudden tusk]

boi in thousand needles

[median marsh]

is there any fine UI setup for prepatch that a non high tech player like me can just import?
until today i used to take Luxthos WA and use that, with few changes here and there,

anything like that will be great

[cobalt kernel]

i had just installed and fiddled with nephui on curseforge, seems alright but because its based on the cooldown manager its not ideal

[honest trail]

Started TWW s1 and couple of friends in s3

[honest trail]

Good thing about starting late is not being addons intoxicated. Pretty excited for Midnight

[woven valley]

I’ve been playing since the end of bc and I can say that I hate how add ons have taken over the game. Cosmetic add ons I don’t care about but having a Simon says add on or weak aura just feels gross 🤮

[fiery tide]

not much is changing if we're being honest, we are still going to have addons that tells us what to do in raid, still got assignments and timeline reminders for example

[honest trail]

That's fine as long as no one forces me to install anything

[fiery tide]

if youre in a serious mythic raiding guild, they more then likely will

[honest trail]

I am & they're not

Unless Fractilus level of shit

[eternal sundial]

Fractillus is harmless

Never again echo of nelthation

[hushed ocean]

FRACTILIUS without WA !

[warm crag]

you'll be fine

[onyx linden]

i even heard blizzard will allow WA's to work in prepatch to not mess up the current raid, but not sure about it

[honest trail]

There's nothing to mess up

[vestal willow]

Looking to try some new alts for the prepatch, does fury have a lot of min max/things you need to track, or is it just building and dumping on rampage for the most part ?

[sullen dove]

pmuch all it is now

probably

[young swan]

execute is higher priority at a baseline but otherwise yeah

think sarri mentioned it is literally the highest priority button other than ramp with no enrage and bladestorm

[flat river]

finally

[plush ice]

Ngl, I dig seeing execute light up and just being able to hit it without needing to think about 3 different conditions

[marble pilot]

Yeah a lot of the changes are nice. Though tbf I never cared about it lighting up in TWW I just hit it when the WA made the noise

[oblique pond]

right so i just played the new reap from exe change in a beta key and damn does that feel good

[oblique thistle]

Gonna have to update the gif with execute instead of raging blow

[golden spoke]

sorry if i missed the post but has anyone seen the wowhead article for fury saying that to achive more aoe you should drop enraged regen in m+?? that seems like it will not end well

[young swan]

that is true only with prepatch/midnight

but also damage in keys has kinda been reduced a ton, and we're getting a talent that basically turns dstance into a 3s CD 30% DR

[golden spoke]

oh so with midnight we get more talent tree points to spend that arent auto included in apex talents?

[young swan]

kinda not really

we get 3 more points for the class tree, 3 more points for heroes, and 4 more for the spec tree

the 4 for the spec tree basically just go straight into the apex

[golden spoke]

ah so you still might have to choose between enraged and improved whirlwind?

[young swan]

the 3 in the class tree are basically just for t1 and t2 investment, t3 remains with the same total amount of investment

[young swan]

kinda yeah

but again, we have a talent in the class tree that makes dstance even more broken than it already is to shore up the weakness of potentially not talenting into ER

[golden spoke]

which talent is that wasnt aware of it? sounds cool

[young swan]

stance mastery

[golden spoke]

that reads that when a hit does more than 20% of your health the damage of that hit is reduced by 15%

[young swan]

yes

[golden spoke]

so if it does 100k then it would be reduced to 85k

so combining that with the base value

does that make it another 15k less

or 15% of 85k less?

[young swan]

the way it was working (unsure if its still doing the same thing now), was basically just 30% DR, it might not work like that now

but either way, its ridiculously strong

[golden spoke]

thats a cool skill expression ngl

v strong

[young swan]

I think they changed the wording so its possible it does 15% + 15% on the already reduced value

but thats still very high DR on a very short CD

[golden spoke]

thanks!

[sullen cloak]

I am using a WA to track meat cleaver to help with knowing when its up

What are you guys using to track in pre patch ?

[clever path]

default blizzard thing prob

[sullen cloak]

Cool it does seem a lot is there.

Will have to spend some time and go through all of the default ui.

Thanks

[deft palm]

when do i press thunderous roar?

im looking at the guide and it doesnt show roar anywhere

[sullen dove]

its like a dps sidegrade on single target to bloodthirst so its technically not really recommended to hit on pure single target but i like dont care about that and slam it mid charge anyway

[summer quail]

don't worry about it. roar is gone tomorrow/wednesday

[sullen dove]

oh rly

havent looked at future talents like at all just expecting it to be mid

thane ja clappa back tho

[deft palm]

ty guys

when do i use my pre pot

[summer quail]

ye boi, fkn love thane

[sullen dove]

not rly such thing as prepot anymore its put on a 5min cd regardless of when u use it

so pmuch just on pull once you charge in/use cds unless u have to save it for something specific

like a dmg amp in a fight or an add phase or something to pad

[deft palm]

Thanks

[indigo arch]

Can prepot before a key starts, about it

Depends on key if you get any mileage

[brittle crow]

yall ever have an opener so bad you have to do rb bt roar immediately

[sullen dove]

no i morph the game to fit my needs

[winter shoal]

Me when I haven't played in 3 weeks and I have to log in for sales

[brittle crow]

not playing in 3 weeks doesnt fix ur rng

[winter shoal]

There's no rng in opener

[brittle crow]

ur rb resets are literally rng

[winter shoal]

Unless you mean like 5-10s in

First like 6 globals are pretty scripted tho

[brittle crow]

u can bladestorm, rb, rb, get no resets, ramp, get no resets

and ur just fucked

happens once every like 100 pulls

[winter shoal]

Once every 100 still sounds too high for me but idk ww and walk out/charge in

[brittle crow]

ur supposed to use roar as filler when it happens

just annoying when it does

[brittle crow]

yea its prob lower

it happened like twice over ~180 pulls on nexus king

[winter shoal]

NK is a real stinker bc he parries a lot while he's moving around

Parry execute

[brittle crow]

catch my ass forgetting things can still parry

wonder how much lower my dps is for not paying attention

[brittle crow]

u know

if im supposed to be concerned about parries

why isnt there any info anywhere on what bosses can and cant parry

where do i find out

[sudden tusk]

well big bosses arent supposed to

but they decided dimmy gets to

: )

[brittle crow]

"big bosses"

so not nexus king?

what about like... medium bosses

like garrosh

or stix

[sudden tusk]

nope

only bosses that cant really move generally have parry removed

[sullen dove]

fractillus prolly one

[winter shoal]

Me when dimmy p1

[sudden tusk]

frac cant parry p sure

[winter shoal]

(my 3mfe exe got parried twice and I dropped my AJ stacks)

[winter shoal]

could check on logs probs but I cba

nothing you could do about it for frac anyways

[sudden tusk]

m1

m11

hehe

[sullen dove]

ball

s

[sudden tusk]

h

[sullen dove]

o just realized need to join a guild if i want to get a mount

frick man

thought could just wallow forever

[dapper goblet]

@sullen dove enjoy your warrior rework tomorrow piggy

[brittle crow]

do u know how much of a dps loss being infront of a parry man is

[sullen dove]

are you also not getting reworked to some degree

ye or nay surging totem

[sudden tusk]

no but its dumb

[brittle crow]

fire emoji react

gold medal emoji react

chicken react

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/test-horse-race-cyan-test-horse-race-cyan-cyan-horse-horse-race-tests-gif-14486456227388326397

[brittle crow]

cyan.......

[dapper goblet]

couldnt tell ya

[sullen dove]

real

all i know is reap is dead

gg

time to thunder blast

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/jovialmerryment-horse-race-horse-race-tests-horseracetests-horse-race-tests-jovial-merryment-gif-1387883392691020800

[undone flower]

if i remember correctly, it's 3% parry chance, so i consider i lose 3% dmg on average

when the boss can parry ofc

[dense elbow]

Oh it can be so much worse than 3%

[hybrid karma]

imagine you getting parried so often that you lose your sudden death proc and then drop overwhelm

[high sedge]

getting parried on 3 stacks Exec

[fossil orbit]

🤣🤣🤣

[hybrid karma]

alone the sound of getting parried is making me rage at this point

i hate this sound so bad

[woven valley]

If they wanna keep parry in so bad make it where spells can miss again

[undone flower]

It happened to me but not this season

Lose juggernaut bc parry

[honest trail]

Mountain Thane being best in raid for prepatch makes me depressed

[light tapir]

Meh I like slayer's playstyle better, so I'm going to play that regardless.

[smoky vale]

you do realize you can just play what you find fun

[deft palm]

how is sacbrood our 2nd best trinket?

[light tapir]

Real. I wasn't getting invited any less to raids or M. Plus pugs, when thane was topping the charts prior to the reap, the storm changes

[deft palm]

under screams?

[light tapir]

Play what you want, play what you like

[smoky vale]

more stats good

[deft palm]

ok

[smoky vale]

better than passive damage trinkets in keys

[lilac osprey]

also its still a passive damage trinket on top of the stats

[deft palm]

cause im simming droptimizer but it shows that its better then cursed stone idol and on murlok io everyone is running stone idol

at 730 ilvl

[smoky vale]

idol in st sucks

its why its only used in keys

[deft palm]

ah

[honest trail]

Oh I will

Dw

[deft palm]

are the dinar tokens vendor going away in pre patch

[honest trail]

Idol is great in keys is all. It's easy to macro with Avatar and you can channel it during charge so opener on a pack is like: charge-reck/avatar/idol macro during travel time-ww-ramp-bs

[clever path]

think i just got world last keystone legend

[fading sky]

I hope not my alt wants 2 spend em on 1handers🤣

[deft palm]

lol

[warm crag]

ive got like 12 more hours to beat you sec

[smoky vale]

its bad to macro it into avatar

you lose a gcd

[warm crag]

nvm the mount sucks ass i will not be bothering

[smoky vale]

io check

[clever path]

lol killed last boss at shutdown 7:00

[warm crag]

you know other areas of the world exist ye

[warm crag]

2.8k

[clever path]

yeah, is this the EU advantage

[smoky vale]

thats one 21

just login man

[warm crag]

2.888 in fact

[smoky vale]

so easy

[warm crag]

shit mount tho

[smoky vale]

who cares

they are legit giving it away

[warm crag]

exactly

im not getting 800 mounts anyways so i will simply not care

[smoky vale]

true

spongus

[warm crag]

• anurelos is bis

[smoky vale]

i did it

true

real

[warm crag]

they did it

[smoky vale]

wait

but you need anurelos recolor

600 mounts

login

[warm crag]

are you stupid

[smoky vale]

wym

[honest trail]

How so?

I can macro channel + ww during charge

[hardy shuttle]

You waste the duration of the buff while you are channeling.

[plush zephyr]

You macro it with charge, not av

[hardy shuttle]

A lot of people in keys run fresh meat now, so you dont need to buff until after anyways.

Charge w/ idol. Bt for enrage. Then CDs

[honest trail]

Guess that works too

[lofty forge]

so tomorrow whats the deal with addons. should i disable elvui details etc when i log in or what?

[plush zephyr]

Wait lol

[honest trail]

Been doing more than fine dmg up to 19's like that

[hardy shuttle]

Yeah. You dont need to play perfect even all the way up to 21s. But you can always do more

[honest trail]

I do anything I can to not have to press any active trinkets but I guess it works on charge

[hardy shuttle]

Can also just run ant and pacemaker

[honest trail]

Y I just got idol myth like week 1 in the season

So i kept it xD

[oblique thistle]

If an addon does not have a release for prepatch you wont be able to load it, or even force load it. Just update whatever addons you can and leave the rest disabled

[keen kindle]

Or uninstall as needed

[oblique thistle]

Rip WA

[digital steppe]

how will we track when to use SF

[winter shoal]

Hey all you cool cats and kittens, with prepatch today, wowanalyzer should (afaik) be cutting over to their midnight branch, which includes a pretty substantial restructure, particularly for fury. There will 100% be bugs - if you find any issues, please let me know and I can try to get them fixed before the expansion actually launches. Also note that the rotation APL checks are pretty much just placeholder stuff for now, not that it matters much in prepatch anyways

[smoky vale]

okay

i can help test stuff if you want btw

[winter shoal]

Should be able to just throw any 12.0 log into it once things are live, I checked with some beta logs but didn't cross-reference with vods or anything

I added a fix for TC/TB resets/cdr and burst of power yesterday (hasn't been merged yet but hopefully will be today) but there still seems to be something a bit fucky with that

[indigo arch]

tfw reflect wa gone soon

[summer sedge]

This is probably addressed in here but what is the best way to show whirlwind stacks now that WA is gone? Had a WA that showed how many I had left before

[winter shoal]

You can track it in cooldown manager

I recommending only showing the stack count, since the duration is pretty much irrelevant

[undone flower]

i guess ww stacks as a bar is over

[winter shoal]

Possible with ArcUI

I've always just used an icon though

ArcUI does a lot of manipulation of CDM that other addons don't/can't do

My understanding is it basically just takes the data from CDM and uses it to create its own new frames rather than try to manipulate the existing ones

[hardy shuttle]

Im lucky. Ive always just had the icon ww and a bar for enrage.

Only difference in my UI is going to be Elvui skinned player, target, and party frames.

[summer sedge]

Yeah I use a bar with four rectangles to count it, so would prefer that.

But maybe that’s dead?

[winter shoal]

#fury message

[hardy shuttle]

This

[summer sedge]

Thanks all!

[undone flower]

the first time i played fury i downloaded luxthos WA, so i'm used to the bar, i don't mind if i have to do icon, i'm kinda excited to redo my UI tomorrow

[winter shoal]

All the UI addons are just a worse version of weakauras

Took me 10 hours to figure out a janky workaround to make RB stop glowing when that would've taken 10 seconds to do with wa

[undone flower]

Would have taken 10 sec with WA bc you are used to WA, i bet it will be fine once the new addons are settled in more final forms/popularity filter the bad ones

[flat river]

Frieren season 2 is out boiz

[winter shoal]

Yes and no, a lot of that time was spent learning how addons even work, barking up the wrong tree because apparently ActionButtonSpellAlertManager:ShowAlert and OnSpellActivationOverlayGlowShowEvent are entirely unrelated and incompatible, and the 3 different sources of information about game api all disagree with each other

Which would not have happened with weakauras

but yes as things get fleshed out, this functionality might get added to the addons I'm using, or I might need to pivot to using entirely new addons and recreate my whole UI in order to accomplish one simple thing

thank goodness blizzard took the nuclear option instead of just restricting addon communications in combat though, we simply couldn't have that

[undone flower]

I hoped they went total addon raze or not at all, middle ground is annoying

we are gonna do the heroic raid tomorrow

And reclear mythic Thursday bc ppl might become even worse with the addon change

[sullen dove]

that in ur top 5 of all time

[flat river]

not my top five

the objectivly top 5

we talked about this before

[sullen dove]

oh we sure did

we talked about it alright

that one was one of maybe two deserving candidates in there if remembering right

we dont talk about the other 3

[flat river]

what don't you understand about objective

[sullen dove]

it would be objective if multiple sources agreed but uh... clearly that didnt happen

[flat river]

say what u want but it's objectivly the top 5

[onyx linden]

ah yes, juggernaut, you wont be missed

[flat river]

anything u say is subjective @sullen dove

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[sullen dove]

minus 1k dps L

[onyx linden]

not on arms tho

[sullen dove]

real

[radiant plank]

-1 gazillion

[onyx linden]

would be rank 1 if it didnt drop

surely

lost by 50k

[feral ivy]

Is servers up?

[onyx linden]

yes

[unborn delta]

how much longer maintentece

🤔

[sudden tusk]

i banish you to zul farrak

[sullen dove]

soon

will be perishing under the maw of gahzrilla

[undone flower]

one more loser of the race to world last

[unborn delta]

zul farrak? lets farm those swords twin

[sudden tusk]

first epic item i ever had in wow was that 2h sword

[modest condor]

mine was the epic ring from scarlet monastery

[sullen dove]

theres an epic in sm?

dont see any on atlasloot

unless it was just like a random world boe

[sudden tusk]

i dont remember there being a epic drop there, but i think freezing band is low enough too since its 42 lvl req i think?

[slim pollen]

Do we get SMF mogging in pre-patch? 👀

[oblique thistle]

Yes

[wild mural]

holy moly god plays arms

oh wait this is fury channel

bye

[oblique thistle]

I played slarms on beta its fun 😄

Prepatch arms tho

[unborn delta]

i got kroll blade

[modest condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=34227/deadmans-hand

[sullen dove]

also lvl 13 seems little low for sm

[dapper goblet]

swordish was not even born when tbc came out

[sullen dove]

mm incorrect but not far off

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/good-tuesday-morning-gif-17219359563768137467

[modest condor]

ok who hacked xeos account

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/dripgoku-gif-19894559

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-stare-meme-angry-gif-14312537171363175004

[winter shoal]

ah yes my fresh cup of steaming coffee beans

[sullen dove]

yum

[earnest wing]

those are regular beans to me, which just shows how coffee i've become...

[winter shoal]

I regret to inform you that you're drinking AI slop then

[sullen dove]

what words did my eyes just pass over

[dapper goblet]

ai beans are the best beans

[slim coral]

As of today we are free from Tom and Jugg

w

[dapper goblet]

How long until we're free from bazed

[dense elbow]

❤️

[sullen dove]

give the word and it'll be handled

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/never-gonna-happen-breaking-bad-nope-no-way-hank-schrader-gif-4945261051704099839

[sleek parrot]

so during pre patch its thane for both st and mt?

[dense elbow]

if ya want it to be

[sleek parrot]

I dont want it to be, I want slayer

[dense elbow]

Then it is not

[sleek parrot]

what do the numbers say

[dense elbow]

That it is prepatch

[sleek parrot]

a 6 weeks long pre patch, might as well play whats best

[sullen dove]

when I’m in a saying words challenge and my opponent is funkystronk67

[dense elbow]

ya will know in 3 weeks

[plush zephyr]

No real reason to “play” a spec and hone in on any type of rotation whatsoever when it’s all changing lol

Just vibe dude

[sleek parrot]

6 weeks is a lot but Ill figure it out, if I just have to vibe for 6 weeks better to vibe on tbc or mop

[plush zephyr]

Everyone’s going to be vibing/playing diff games for 6 weeks

I think there’s an event that will have two mounts

[silk wharf]

Rip +2 hours

[upper mica]

has fury changed much with prepatch?

[plush zephyr]

Think sudden death gets prio over everything then bt

But idk

[sleek parrot]

we are not on class discord to vibe but whatever

[plush zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-about-that-gif-17735709754501735355

I came here for the advice

I stayed for the vibes

[sleek parrot]

ok so whats the advice

what are the numbers

[dim spindle]

Warrior = pure vibes

[silk wharf]

Out of all the class discords I have been in, warrior is by far the best. (totally not biased)

[young swan]

sure but its 6 weeks that have no impact on the content before or after it

[sullen dove]

damn only 6 weeks

[young swan]

like its actually useless

[sullen dove]

thought was longer

have to join a guild for a mount

[dim spindle]

Real answer, as of right this moment according to those who are supposed to know what they're talking about - thane for MT/m+, Slayer for pure ST and that could be a maybe

[sullen dove]

any takers

[finite ravine]

Sooo, which one are we supposed to follow? xd

[young swan]

real answer is thane fury is just the best warrior spec (i think, @static loom can make me look like an idiot if he wants)

lemme double check that before i get called a moron

[static loom]

If you enjoy yourself, that's the optmal play

[dim spindle]

But, the numbers...

[sleek parrot]

this is what I was wondering about as well, says st slayer but on the other page its thane for all

[sullen dove]

did thane keeps its set?

[plush zephyr]

Bro we can’t even log in and ppl worried about builds

[sullen dove]

if so then yea but if not then thane is also chopped boring dogshit base hero spec no

[young swan]

it got baked into based tclap and tblast

its fucking cracked

they just do tier damage all the time

[sullen dove]

ok cool so what if we just did that but for slayer 2 piece

thoughts

[brittle merlin]

Sorry I lived under a rock for all the midnight news, ppl are screaming about ability pruning.. did we lose any keybinds ? Avatar I heard ?

[dim spindle]

Under a rock? In today's economy? Look at mr. moneybags over here

[silk wharf]

Avatar moved, we didnt lose it.

[dim spindle]

All I have is a waterlogged 2x4 and a piece of plastic sheeting

$1200/month

[brittle merlin]

Nice, so did we lose anything? Just from reading around here it almost seems nothing changes, just the usual debate between slayer and thane

[plush zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/im-sad-that-makes-me-feel-sad-sad-b99-holt-gif-7390787981673881584

I was expecting huge changes few months ago

So it soaking in that we’re not really getting shit changed, I’m sad.

[brittle merlin]

I mean I don't mind that much, the.only thing I dislike about fury is the spear and how clunky it sometimes is (pvp)

[warm crag]

can just play a roar build no

[brittle merlin]

Spear just too strong if you land it

Which is a big if

[modest condor]

roar?

[warm crag]

idk i pressed roar and then rampaged them and they died

[modest condor]

what is this, tww talents?

[warm crag]

roar is a 5% damage amp in pvp noober...

[young swan]

nope

nothing important anyways

[brittle merlin]

Sweet, ability pruning my ass

[plush zephyr]

I think mage got “pruned” more than anyone

But tbh their tool kit and damage reduction or negation was op af

[dim spindle]

Speaking of spear, can you do the leap-to-spear thingie while standing on top of it?

Or is there a min range

Haven't played on beta/PTR at all

[young swan]

last I checked it didnt have a minimum range

[dim spindle]

gtk, ty

So free bonus damage assuming it's off GCD, yeah?

But that could be a bad assumption

[young swan]

i cant remember if its off gcd

it might be

but ur like never taking spear ever

so

[dim spindle]

Hmm, well we still have our intervene 2.0 I guess. Not nearly as suicidal as intervene

[smoky vale]

come here

[slim coral]

technically thane will always bring it but slayer will never atleast by design

[sullen dove]

any other takers

[smoky vale]

alr mb

https://tenor.com/view/i-miss-you-gif-9601499254078520677

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/nazuna-spin-spinning-nanakusa-nazuna-yofukashi-no-uta-speen-gif-26731898

[smoky vale]

when are you making full swap to dragindeez

[sullen dove]

idk why id ever do that unless war is literally the worst dps in the game

[smoky vale]

bc no evoker players

always wanted

[sullen dove]

yea im not playing aug

[smoky vale]

can play beamman

[sullen dove]

altho it seems to also have been chudified and easy to play now

but doubt its good anyway

[smoky vale]

can you play keys with me at least

[sullen dove]

when theyre relevant sure

ding lvl 42 poggers

[smoky vale]

i just hit 41

gz

[sullen dove]

but have you died ever

[smoky vale]

no

[sullen dove]

lies

[smoky vale]

not a noob

[sullen dove]

x

[smoky vale]

no doubting allowed

swordish please push next season

save me from lfg

[sullen dove]

wouldve maybe been fun if it gave gear

chuds reverted that tho

"wah keep making the rich richer 1% m+ers now get the best loot for raid"

[unborn delta]

20s should give 6/6m

[smoky vale]

ill tell you what to gear in a month

get ready

[unborn delta]

my guild making me do 1 alt for splits first 2 weeks

[smoky vale]

you wanna play mage or lock

[sullen dove]

i am playing one of two classes

s3 sl lock was fun tho

but doubt currently anything like that

[smoky vale]

lucky ill take the burden of aug for you

[sullen dove]

aug is literally terrible

[smoky vale]

every key on ptr

is frost lock aug

[pearl sequoia]

2nd warrior

[sullen dove]

ptr meta wowie

[smoky vale]

get resdy in 2 months

[warm crag]

you can just say no

[dapper goblet]

if you do splits you're a FREAK

[coarse nest]

Bro thinks he’s saying no to Larias and still raiding

[warm crag]

i said no to my rl and he dealt with it shrug

[covert blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1406564095775473714/schmidirot.gif

[undone flower]

Schmididi toilet

[dense elbow]

This is the Fury I remember

[proud leaf]

i haven't looked at trees for a few months. did they get rid of the cheat death if you kill your killer thing?

[honest trail]

It's under Rampage

[proud leaf]

ty

[frank dawn]

Is this the place to come complain about OF and Bladestorm now

[fickle dirge]

Every place is the place to complain about OF and BS

[frank dawn]

[indigo arch]

So, are there any reflect wa standalone addons? I see none on curseforge

Suppose now that frenzy doesn't care about target swaps I can just hit the caster to see where it's targeting, but that's kinda wack

[smoky vale]

use targeted spells workaround

or look at nameplates to see what things are casting on

[indigo arch]

Oh that new ui thing? Haven't touched the new ui stuff yet still at work

[smoky vale]

you know how there was a wa to see if you were targeted by a spell

theres already a replacement for it

🙂

dont know what its called but it exists

[undone flower]

Noob, real warriors use the single button assistant

I wonder what ppl who used hekili will do

[charred hawk]

TargetedSpells

[edgy widget]

it's not quite the same; you can see that you're targeted by a spell but it can't tell you what spell or whether it's reflectable

certainly helps, but not nearly as dummy proof as what we had before

[cerulean grail]

fury slayer dont use bladestorm is the most funny thing i saw on wow since a long time

[smoky vale]

i mean in most cases things you are targeted by are magic so surely press and find out

and in most cases you only need to press reflect if its 2 things within 2s

[mortal ivy]

i mean they never got bladestorm until WoD..

but slayer using AV over BS is crazy

[feral ivy]

i wonder what is fucking up real bad... prob ilvl crunch

[upbeat plume]

lack of apex talents and talent points probably isnt helping either

[pliant obsidian]

class changes and stat squishing to scale to tww and prior expacs

[edgy widget]

that affects most things pretty equally

[pliant obsidian]

no it wont

[edgy widget]

.... in the context of this conversation, yes it does

Bladestorm becoming weaker than Avatar has nothing to do with the stat squish

because that squish affects everything pretty equally

[pliant obsidian]

ahh yea in that context

[edgy widget]

it's really just the fact that Avatar is getting affected by Anger Management, which allows it to align with Reck outweighing Bladestorm's direct damage

it's definitely funky though

[sour tundra]

will my game blow up if i start it with weak auras still installed when the servers come up :p

[edgy widget]

no, it just won't load

WoW won't allow you to load out of date addons anymore

[pliant obsidian]

won't load

[slim coral]

I would just unistall weakauras to be safe

knowing blizz the game will brick

[junior gale]

just be like me and delete everything

[daring laurel]

delete your whole interface folder

[brittle crow]

fun detected

[slim coral]

[pliant obsidian]

so as you level to 90 will stats sqush even more then gradually come back up in endgame content and i mean secondary stats i know you will get more hp etc

squish

[brittle crow]

i feel like we just had an ilvl squish not too long ago

am i wrong

[edgy widget]

They don't squish per se, but yeah the amount of stats needed to convert to 1% will increase, so your gear becomes relatively weaker as you level up. It has to work that way to keep power inflation under control, or we'd already have had 100%+ in every stat by the time Wrath came out

[pliant obsidian]

ok ty

[edgy widget]

Shadowlands did a big numbers squish, including character level

but that was four expansions ago now

[pliant obsidian]

yea i remember vividly lol\

[brittle crow]

dont tell me that

im not old im not old im not old

[edgy widget]

6 years or so

[pliant obsidian]

it was rough and traumatic

[heady cobalt]

don't feel too bad, i realized that mop (when i started) was 14 years ago.

[pliant obsidian]

vanilla and 5.56k dial up lol

[brittle crow]

im a legion baby

[edgy widget]

[brittle crow]

my server time would reflect this but archi has made sure it isnt so

[deft palm]

no more slayer

[pliant obsidian]

why?

[deft palm]

apparently we take MT

[pliant obsidian]

lol wut?tak

e what you l

ike

[brittle crow]

just read da news

fury slayer takes avatar is a bruh moment

[pliant obsidian]

no c

ookie

cutter for me

[heady cobalt]

i had a little chuckle when i read that, most pre patch thing

[pliant obsidian]

its just prepatch seasons over try all the talents etc

[junior gale]

prepatch is a meme dont need to take it seriously. Pretty normal for some things to be stupid or wonky

[edgy widget]

server uppage

[sullen tendon]

dude wtf all my tmog outifts are gone

im never gonna remember which ones i had

[plush zephyr]

yep

[sullen tendon]

totally scammed

[feral ivy]

if its laggy go to ur housing area

[sullen tendon]

still cant wear twinblades of azzanoth as fury

fuck off blizzard

change them from swords to glaives if you dont want that

[drowsy heron]

wow thats dumb

[feral ivy]

@edgy widget the wowhead "raid ST slayer" is wrong a bit

[sullen tendon]

someday blizzard will give us what we want

[edgy widget]

it's not wrong, there's just nothing else to take

[young swan]

no its not

[edgy widget]

you'll notice the 2nd row talents also require bladestorm

[feral ivy]

oh im sorry

[edgy widget]

you should be!

[pliant obsidian]

lol

[feral ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/forgive-me-your-majesty-reynolds-queen-charlotte-a-bridgerton-story-i'm-sorry-your-majesty-my-apologies-your-majesty-gif-8363577962880655078

[edgy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[feral ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-man-man-crying-crying-sad-tearing-gif-11747757045218914227

im looking at the wowhead rotation... we not pushing rend? if so why we picking it? (st slayer raid)

[sour tundra]

wait we don't take enrage regen with the new mythic + build?

we have no defensives lol

[modest condor]

in what world do we not have defensives

[sour tundra]

just copied the build from WoWhead

[modest condor]

then you have 2 very strong defensives

[sullen tendon]

bagnon broken for anyone else?

or is it gone too

[modest condor]

bagnon is always behind with patches

[sullen tendon]

i want blizzard to just make everything good about addons workin game

[warm crag]

is the dstance change in prepatch

[modest condor]

there's no dstance change

if you're asking whether stance mastery is in prepatch then yes ofcourse

[sullen tendon]

fucking criminal we cant wear warglaive still

was looking foward to it

[inland breach]

But you can make your swords look like a bow

lol

[hushed gust]

so... the M+ cookie cutter foregoes both Enraged Regen and Stance Mastery?

[modest condor]

i mean it's a wowhead guide

[feral ivy]

pls tell me there is a way to copy someones whole layout lol and if quazi will be making one

[modest condor]

if you're playing at a level where either of those things are necessary i hope you can figure out that you dont have to blindly follow the guide but rather make your own decisions

if you're just doing your weeklies then you dont need a wall anyway so it's whatever

[hushed gust]

Hey, Sil. i didn't ask for some dickwaffle to try and talk down to me. maybe it could be better to probably provide insight onto why?

[plush zephyr]

Whooooo ever mentioned warriors mogging glaives

Lmao

[modest condor]

oh my bad

[young swan]

you ddint ask why

maybe stop being a dickwaffle yourself and learn to properly ask questions

[warm crag]

lmao

[indigo arch]

[warm crag]

xantaga survived the germany incident (allegedly)

[young swan]

shockingly

[hushed gust]

i dunno why i even try and have faith in this discord...

[dense elbow]

I dunno

[indigo arch]

Unless you're doing push level keys in prepatch, there is zero reason to take a wall or the stance talent.

[north sky]

So we are taking bladestorm talents but no bladestorm or whats wrong with wowhead page

[indigo arch]

And by push I mean 20+

[warm crag]

ask a question in a respectful and concise way and you will have people jumping to give you helpful answers you muppet

[young swan]

correct, bladestorm is horrifically undertuned

[dense elbow]

People finally caught on that BS is weak and needs a buff

[north sky]

So why waste the 2 points on the hero talent tree

Just for Deadly focus?

[young swan]

there isnt anything else to spend it on

overwhelmed requires BS, cc and bf require BS

[feral ivy]

if u ment becasue it was in midnight then its because not a lot of ppl play PTR

[young swan]

no matter what you're wasting points

[inland breach]

Yeah it looks like it's literally just that. Avatar is strong I guess - and there's nowhere else to put those talents

[young swan]

from what I understand, cdr on avatar is just better than cdr on BS

pretty sad state of affairs

[indigo arch]

Don't worry, surely s2 tier will temporarily buff bladestorm so it is taken

[dense elbow]

I fear the coming blizz solution:
Hurricane Jr takes a backseat, Hurricane Senior is coming back from retirement

[young swan]

feel like a 30% buff to BS is more likely

[feral ivy]

in slayer raid can we take off rend? or we should be pressing it?

[young swan]

u dont need to talent it, no

[feral ivy]

cool ty

[plush zephyr]

Thanks @young swan and @modest condor and @remote bobcat and @dense elbow and anyone else that’s been helping the masses of ppl asking all these questions

[inland breach]

Looks like Than is the choice for M+ hey?

[plush zephyr]

And @winter shoal

[inland breach]

I've actually never played Thane