they still had covenant
#fury
undone flower
No in SL prepatch you didn’t have covenants
You had SL classes but with Azerite neck / armor
modest condor
SL prepatch when fury did tank damage
undone flower
And corruptions were turned off
stoic echo
Wait no shot pre patch counts towards the cutoff
undone flower
SL prepatch when fury did tank damage
Target cap bs was the issue ? I didn’t play fury back then
stoic echo
Please tell me that's not actually a thing
undone flower
It will not, the season ends with prepatch launch
stoic echo
Phew
modest condor
Target cap bs was the issue ? I didn’t play fury back then
no, tuning was the issue
stoic echo
I remember that Rio still counted in DF S4 prepatch
But I didn't push back then so idk if it counted for title
modest condor
they had to buff fury by like 40% through prepatch and season 1 and it was still one of the bottom 3 specs in raid
sullen dove
o ur talm bout bfa into sl
modest condor
that's what sl prepatch means yes
sullen dove
sl into df was peak
undone flower
I remember that Rio still counted in DF S4 prepatch
You still have Rio in prepatch
undone flower
I played Hunter back then so I had a different experience
modest condor
i remember the first raid in prepatch, everybody was doing like 4.5-5k dps or something and i did 3.2k dps and it was an orange parse
undone flower
The first season of midnight yes, but I might stop after it
high sedge
stoic echo
DW he'll be back for season 3
earnest canyon
ill be back when RA isnt garbage and the best thing to play
Oks see yous tahnks for you service.
stoic echo
ill be back when RA isnt garbage and the best thing to play
Time to play arms Mon ami
sullen dove
ye if good
coarse nest
God arms be good 🙏
chrome grove
hey all, LF PVE coach for fury warr 🙂
earnest canyon
oh shit im EU
earnest canyon
https://tenor.com/view/pearto-pear-teto-gif-3272696767976487565
Oh God, not pear man....
🙈
fervent violet
guys is there a way to check item durability in warcraftlog
earnest canyon
Gotta put in some work if you want to improve, friend
cedar saffron
modest condor
damn you really got those furry warriors there
earnest canyon
What class do you like to play @cedar saffron ?
fervent violet
guys can someone tell me why i died ? 33m for a fracture seems alot, i have 9 characters, fracture sholdnt even hurt
i got yelled at in raid i need to know -.-
sorry 33m was for a Felblade that i taunted in the middle of eye beam on the other tank, i died there too
full terrace
I got a quick question. I only play Prot warri and as dps I tend to play Fire mage and Sub Rogue (high survivability) - Is it just me or is Fury kinda low in CDs to stay alive? I only really see one 2 min cd and spell reflect, however everywhere online it says very tanky and survivable^^ Im playing in the +18 Key range rn and really struggling to understand how fury is the only DPS spec I cant stay alive on it seems.
modest condor
fury has very high base hp, decently high leech, 10% passive DR (during enrage which has 99% uptime) on top of the things already mentioned
fervent violet
must have missclicked battle stance
but shouldnt it only be 20% ?
i didnt feel anything with any of my other characters. same defensive rotation i never used anything when taunting mid Eye beam. i even killed this boss with 670 ilvl
modest condor
and yeah spell reflect is insanely strong, most dangerous mechanics in m+ are magic damage and happen less often than the cooldown of spell reflect, so you can have it up for every single one of them
and if it's on cooldown just press def stance
fervent violet
i saved reflect for my own eye beam, didnt think it can get rdy, can it ?
i talented into cheat death for that boss, i wouldnt knowingly play battle stance there
modest condor
im answering the other guy asking about fury's tankiness in m+
i dont raid so idk what you're talking about
also we dont have a cheat death
you sure you're in the right place?
vernal pelican
Hey guys, is it allowed to post links here so some1 may could take a look at my m+ log? I feel my dmg is very low and I just want to know if I am doing something terribly wrong
hollow leaf
there's a channel for it in #1347646810457636974 but feel free to send it here as well if you want
vernal pelican
I saw that channel but the frequency of answers is kinda low - so I thought I just take my shot and ask here - sorry if this is kinda rude
That's the log: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WFdqk8HCcLnaKvD3?fight=12&type=damage-done
I've been dead quite some time on second boss and missed uptime on 3rd but I think that can't be all
sullen dove
can probably try to do more than 1.5x as many raging blows as rampages
its a bit of a "volatile" priority of buttons to hit in m+ depending on like current pack/pack length/whatever the next pack is gonna be/your cds, but in halls especially with how much big aoe there is to do it can be better to let enrage timer run on a bit longer and overcap rage to fit more rb's and by extension reaps
so like im not sure how often you are doing it just from overall casts since priority would be a bit different on single target bosses which are still a decent majority of the time in a dungeon but id def try spamming a couple more rb's during each enrage window and letting your rage overcap more if u dont think ur doing alot of that already
like instead of ramp > rb > ramp if you have enough rage and its up just sling a ramp > rb > rb > rb as much as you can while keeping enrage/ww up ofc sometimes its only 2 rb's between ramps
but so long as you get a bladestorm back before current pack dies and you'll have it ready for the next pack you dont really have to prioritize cdr through am and mfe as heavily, tho prolly still hit executes at 3 stacks of mfe
silk wharf
If you died on the pad boss that could be a lot more dps than you might think.
sullen dove
not a super 1:1 comparison ofc cuz farover is a gigachad and this is a 21 key but he has a bit bigger % of rb casts as compared to ramp
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WvAm3Q8cBNHK7RCn?fight=31&type=casts&source=6
and reap/rb are waaaay bigger portions of his dmg compared to ramp and other 5target only abilities
tho he could just be soakin up all the pad
but yea 2nd pad boss does help a bit too
regardless a majority of the time if dps in m+ feels low most often just a not enough raging blow issue
or not timing bladestorms for new packs or something
chain pulling is also cringe but not the end of the world ig
silk wharf
You don't seem to be farming raging blow enough for both Reap procs in aoe and post-bladestorm for brutal finish.
sullen dove
fighting against 2 bm hunters tho i think they are pad-o-tron supreme so idk
vernal pelican
so u would suggest to cast rb more often in aoe situations while keeping up enrage and ww buff, am I right and try to have bladestorm for the start of a new pack
sullen dove
yea p much
if its a long enough pack which it might be in a 17 it can be fine to use a 2nd bladestorm so long as you think you can get back the third one before new pack
but like if mobs are already like 50% or lower probably wouldnt send a second
cuz bs is still good damage its just not worth like, doing comparatively bad damage with rampage and executes on cd to get the cdr for it when you could just be reap spamming
vernal pelican
ok and while "reap spamming" I pretty much ignore execute usage if if I am holding bs for next pack, right?
sullen dove
uhhh you proooobably can? tho execute still does good priority dmg im sure its still fine to send on 3
to keep up jugg and stuff potentially idk
vernal pelican
tyvm in advance I will try ur suggestion in next keys
sullen dove
thats prolly like more minor feelsy but as the pack size goes up prolly yea will just always be more worth to rb as much as you can help it without ruining other parts of what you need to do to plan ahead
can always say nerf bm tho
works like a charm
sudden tusk
smorbmish minecraft
sudden tusk
ok and while "reap spamming" I pretty much ignore execute usage if if I am holdi...
yeah in a high enough pack i like to use Execute with the WA until i know ill have BS off cd, then ill just play around reap
the normal rotation should re apply once the pack is back to around 5 mobs, but anything higher playing around enrage uptime and reap is just too good
vernal pelican
yeah in a high enough pack i like to use Execute with the WA until i know ill ha...
and hold bs for next pack I assume - kk ! I learned something - ty all
sudden tusk
i think they did some sims and the damage dif between sending BS again and just reaping more was non existant if i remember
so its just save to just make sure BS will be ready for the next pack then just play around reap
sending SD is still valuable because you get to get more BS ticks with the hero talent towards the end of the pack, but the big thing is just to have BS ready for every pack
modest condor
wrong channel
rancid ermine
Just saw
turbid moth
theres any target count where you prio raging blow over execute with sudden death/marked for execution procs?
storm rune
restive edge
WH says hit cds then charge and rampage, i never have enough rage to rampage what am i doing wrong?
storm rune
for boss fights?
restive edge
yeah
storm rune
Because if you're not in combat before you hit your CDs, your rage will reset
dire vigil
@coarse nest Just a couple warriors
storm rune
so the secret is to heroic throw before CDs
restive edge
HIDDEN TECH, i love it
coarse nest
<@224952758808215555> Just a couple warriors
🫡
shoulda afkd with hammers out
damn L
x)
dire vigil
I changed my helmet to heroic mog after that pic, bad look for the mog police
wraith wharf
guys what if our spec was struggling and blizzard hit us with the
who wants to tell him
earnest canyon
Die AM die
quiet breach
338 PULLS...
quiet breach
who wants to tell him
wut
quiet breach
oh LOL
gaunt loom
i don wan to stop damage
upbeat lantern
does Fury do decent damage on Mythic Dimmy P3? I'd assume since its single target?
earnest canyon
i don wan to stop damage
Just don't do mechanics like me. If you die it's the healers fault as you are there to dps not run away.
winter shoal
does Fury do decent damage on Mythic Dimmy P3? I'd assume since its single targe...
Like half of the damage in p3 happens during the damage amp
So we're alright but we have no real burst
upbeat lantern
Yeah - it just feels like if a guild has a warrior tank, the chances of getting brought along as a DPS warrior are pretty close to zero.
Need DK's for grip, DH for buff, etc
frozen grove
I'm still having issues with the ww weakaura loading during raid encounters - specifically soul hunters - are there any specific load settings I need enabled? or is there a different weakaura i can use to help track stacks?
sudden thicket
What's your opener on Dimensius - starting with no charge / rage to get enrage rolling immediately just feels horrific
Should I just leap out when landed and go from there - feels a bit janky but would work I guess
sudden thicket
Cool thanks. It's still awful but this sounds slightly less awful than what I was doing
heavy dock
yea it feels like shit but it works
love it that the portal puts us too close to charge but too far to melee
does anyone know if looking at a log of remix dungeons you can see the % buff mobs have? im rly fucking curious to see what % stats increase do mobs have on a +187 lmao
sullen cloak
Does anyone have any tips to improve DPS ranking on Plexus Sentinel?
I am finding by the time I am charging to the adds , they are dying mega quick and not getting much of a rotation done
high sedge
ignore adds then
hardy shuttle
At this point just run straight to the boss
earnest canyon
Does anyone have any tips to improve DPS ranking on Plexus Sentinel?
I am findi...
be selfish yeah ^^
ranged can do the adds, they die in a few secs
high sedge
Wrecking Throw free dps on that boss too
sullen cloak
ok, I was wondering that but wasn't sure if it was viable. Good point on Wrecking throw
high sedge
dont get why ppl use wrecking throw while not being enraged
sullen cloak
Does enrage make a difference on Wrecking Throw as well then?
warm crag
should
sudden tusk
Does enrage make a difference on Wrecking Throw as well then?
yeah. for Plexis enrage/Reck/Avatar all increase its damage
sullen cloak
Ah ok thats very useful to know. Thanks guys
sacred wharf
Hey guys! I'm trying to make powerful enrage work in my sims because I reckon it will be more chill to play in aoe.
But it always looks like I'm missing out on too much single target damage with it. Has anyone made it work without too much of this downside, and what does your stats look like then?
The first picture is single target and the second is an 8 target sim
https://i.imgur.com/cAx781Z.png
https://i.imgur.com/rJimCEj.png
storm rune
We're doing what, 9, 10mil on average in m+ for the big pull dungeons?
20k diff is a rounding error
sacred wharf
Yeah I'm mostly thinking it will help eliminate mistakes in aoe tbh. I'm still pretty new to Fury so every bit helps there I guess.
But losing 1%+ in ST feels bad.
storm rune
But for an overall diff of .2%
In favour of powerful
Just play what you like, they both work
fading sky
Yeah I'm mostly thinking it will help eliminate mistakes in aoe tbh. I'm still p...
Powerfull is better in aoe
unique frigate
So the season 3 ends december 2?
ancient olive
perhaps a stupid question but why is it that crit trinkets are specifically so high on multitarget sims?
and like
if technically, astral antenna and cursed stone idle are top two aoe trinkets
should I run both?
or do they reduce eachothers effectiveness to run at the same time
I have myth track idol and astral antenna, but felt I was getting more dps running myth sacbrood and idol
high sedge
can always dungeon route sim it or just run sacbrood cuz no minigame
winter shoal
@pine raven git gud
pine raven
<@190531193148669954> git gud
xdd
summer quail
So the season 3 ends december 2?
Where in the world did you get that date?
clever belfry
🐮 🧑🌾 👑 🧎♂️
olive jetty
hey guys, just to get an idea - trying fury for a about a week now in dungeons. Does this look okaish?
high sedge
modest condor
looks fine
subtle nova
anybody playing beta and got talents to play for m+
fading sky
Yes check channel
subtle nova
hah im blind
sullen cloak
Quick question guys. On Mythic Dimmy, when you pick up the excess mass, how long does that effectively last on you?
Are you respnsible for puling down reverse gravities for the rest of the phase or just once?
coarse nest
Yes once you get orb you do the rest
sullen cloak
Ah ok, so I am down to pick up Orb on second set of adds. So I will be pulling down all Reverse gravity team mates for the rest of the phase?
coarse nest
Yes you got it
high sedge
only stays on you until soaks
high sedge
my healers were set 2 and 4 i think
so they dont get picked there
or they dont get 3rd rather
compact knot
well i dont count the adds on pull as a set
high sedge
oh ye then
compact knot
those are fake
high sedge
true (im doing them)
compact knot
anybody can pick those up and it wont really have a effect on the rest of the pull, however after it will always have a effect
coarse nest
The debuff stays on me and new orbs spawn
high sedge
^
coarse nest
So his question was if I pick up orb do I continue to soak, at this point in the tier yes he does, right?
compact knot
pretty much only do first 2 sets and then ignore everything else
high sedge
1 soak 2 3 soak 4 phase ends
compact knot
he might have to do a 3rd soak
coarse nest
Yep that’s a better way to explain it ^
compact knot
but phase ideally ends b4 it
coarse nest
He said he’s assigned to pick up 2nd orb so he’d do 2 and 3 and then hopefully bosses phases before 4th
Ez
high sedge
yep
coarse nest
Speaking of dimi, do you guys Ava on cd or hold 2.1?
My damage is nutsack on that boss so I’ve been trying to find ways where I can pad better
high sedge
depends on what timer you phase p1
coarse nest
So it varies pull to pull but we beat the adds after gate usually
(We’ve killed this already I’m trying to optimize myself better)
high sedge
the war is my guild resends at 1.30 and we phase at 2min
coarse nest
Right so then you’d hold makes sense
high sedge
if you phase faster (?) not sure possible you'd hold ig
coarse nest
No not faster
Latest kill pull was 2:40
So I can Ava at the start of 2.1
Pretty much
compact knot
My damage is nutsack on that boss so I’ve been trying to find ways where I can p...
i watched critcakes first kill
the rng he had was actually fucking insane btw
especially in p1
ive had a few pulls that do the same dps but then we just wipe, he literally executed like every 2 gcds
coarse nest
I mean I know bro but I’ve had two green logs two weeks in a row
Burn damage is okay
Platform damage sucks
P1 depends if I have to do orb or not basically
Best kill pull was blue I guess
Still I want improvement
compact knot
with faster killtimes it is hard to get avatars on both platforms and burn
ive dropped 2nd platform avatar
and just reck/bladestorm 1st set
coarse nest
Yeah so I’d have to hold 2.2 if I Ava 2.1 based on last kill pull
compact knot
bladestorm 2nd set
coarse nest
That’s actually one big thing I found myself doing, not waiting for the adds to get gripped in on platforms before first BS
So that’s giga dps loss there
Going to correct that next week
compact knot
i havent killed dim in 2 weeks but i played fdk which is same timers kinda
*as fury
coarse nest
They also get nuked to orbit by our Ele so I’m kinda cooked on the padding
But will help log some
compact knot
They also get nuked to orbit by our Ele so I’m kinda cooked on the padding
my kill yesterday had 4 fdks lmao
good luck doing damage to those adds with 4 fdks and a ele
compact knot
its a lot easier to parse with a bad raid
coarse nest
Either way though I could at least time the pad abilities better even if they get orbited
Yeah for sure^
compact knot
i think i need to stop playing odyns
hardstuck 95 on dimensius
got a 98 on nexus king with odyns but like ehhhh
compact knot
you only get value on the platform
coarse nest
coarse nest
I did the classic charge > WW > 5000% threat > floor pov
On last nights NK platform
😂
compact knot
oh btw
its deadass a 1m dps increase if you sit on nexus king and build rage for a rampage + cdr for bladestorm.
faster you get enraged + bladestorm you get faster/higher damage ramp
coarse nest
Wait you’re talking when both are down?
compact knot
*right before platform
yeah
getting there fast doesnt matter if you have no rage and no bladestorm
coarse nest
Ye I stay on em we all do
compact knot
well you got there before your tank and then died haha
compact knot
it sounds simple but most people dont notice it guranteed
compact knot
i do fear the odyns build is bad now
too much of a dps loss on nexus king and dimmy i suppose
the QOL still might be a dps gain imo but im not sure
compact knot
yes
the problem with this build is that your enrage can drop in bladestorm
it doesnt happen often if you rampage before it
but like on pull of nexus king it has happened to me before
coarse nest
Sounds like it would be harder to 2x SS stacks before ramp without DE
compact knot
it happened to me yesterday but i still had a rank 41 boss damage parse
compact knot
i almost never proc a refresh on the first bladestorm of a fight with odyns/aoe talents
not sure why
it could be a fresh meat angle
ill check a sim rq
coarse nest
Like maybe you fresh meat > rb > rb ramp
After BS without DE and have OF
If you don’t proc a refresh*
You’d have to tab to an add thought and BT
compact knot
the 15% chance to refresh enrage might be more of a dps increase than 10% bt damage
i actually think it is
wait
coarse nest
True
I bet it is with OF and no DE
Atleast it’s logical that it would
But robot and shit
compact knot
you cant drop depths for DE
its a 4k dps loss on pure ST
this has to be a gain on aoe
it cant be close
coarse nest
4k as in 4,000
compact knot
yes
compact knot
probably drop focus in chaos for bt damage prob
compact knot
autos dont do damage anymore
sim doesnt like it
i forget if missing autos still gives you rage
coarse nest
Iirc it doesn’t
compact knot
yeah aight thats why fic is good then
smoky vale
fic = shaman buff
i got robbed out of a good parse last week because we didnt have a shaman in on a boss
warm crag
i got robbed out of a good parse last week because we didnt have a shaman in on ...
keep coping57
sullen dove
yapplebees57
sour frigate
plush tide
In delves and dungeons when fighting 2 or more mobs, when Bladestorm is on cooldown do I alternate Whirlwind with a single target attack to maximize the amount of cleave damage
smoky vale
you would press ww every 5th global
sour frigate
In delves and dungeons when fighting 2 or more mobs, when Bladestorm is on cool...
Ww damage is shit itself u gain value from meatcleaver buff it provides for 4 hits
plush tide
Ok thanks I misread the meat cleaver tooltip
The Wowhead DPS rotations lists Recklessness and Avatar 1st and 2nd in priority. Since Berserker's Torment talent gives 8 seconds of one buff when you use the other do you stagger the uses and hold off on triggering Avatar until recklessness wears off?
plush tide
So best to make a macro to trigger them at the same time?
sullen dove
you can macro them but should also have recklessness separate since you will get more recks than you do avatar
and depending on how you make the Macro you won’t know reck is up and you’d waste casts of it
hardy cargo
make sure recklessness is first in your macro too
the only real benefit to macroing it is just so u dont have to press both separately when theyre both up its very minimal
slim coral
What is the setting called to hide ui
slim coral
Ye
hardy cargo
ye toggle user interface
winter shoal
I think the keyind is alt+z by default
coarse nest
I’m pretty sure alt Z opens up nvidia panel right?
Think that’s why I changed hide ui to Ctrl C but idr 🤷
plush tide
you can macro them but should also have recklessness separate since you will get...
How will you get more Recklessness than Avatars when they have the same cooldown timer?
coarse nest
Well that’s just it, Reck has cooldown reduction effects ware as Ava is static 1:30
So you’ll cast Reck more often than Ava
tight roost
but you can just use the same macro, it just wont pop ava when its not up ?
coarse nest
You could sure
As long as you have a way to track when reck is available
And also note
tight roost
i do
coarse nest
Their are cases where you want to hold Ava
plush tide
I'm looking thru talent tree not seeing anything that reduces cooldown of Recklessness.
smoky vale
but that could be bad if you only wanna send avatar
coarse nest
But you could sneak in a Reck
warm crag
you can do that ye but there are very niche scenarios where you'd want to press reck but not avatar
smoky vale
I'm looking thru talent tree not seeing anything that reduces cooldown of Reckle...
Anger Management
coarse nest
Or vice versa
Nvm you’d never send Ava and hold reck that I can think of
plush tide
Anger Management
thanks
storm rune
Eh, packs half dead and you know you'll get enough CDR to line up reck with avvy for the next pack
outer mason
Can it be a good thing to sim without lust or always with it?
sullen dove
if you want for like m+ or something you can but generally single target especially in raid no real reason not to assume you always have it
m+ tho you spend a lot more of your time is without lust so I suppose could potentially try a multi target sim or something there if you wanna see your “true dmg” without lust like it might want you to build slightly more haste in aoe for example if it doesn’t assume you lust on pull of a pack cuz of course you don’t have it for every pack
but the movement of gear and stats from that is probably so tiny I’d assume almost nobody bothers
outer mason
aa ok tyty
cobalt relic
smoky vale
https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-monkey-3amskypecall-monkey-gif-661026228018841050...
can you stream again
smoky vale
gajeel radio has controlled the monopoly for too long
warm crag
nothing worth streaming until we glimpse p3 maybe
stream NOW
smoky vale
he gets it ^
sullen dove
silencee radio also kind of grinding
look how far our boy has come
3 months ago asking how to do dps on plexus sentinel and loomithar
now almost 4k io
smoky vale
wb me
sullen dove
class traitor
stolen valor only came back now that fury is op
real players play the class through the thick and thin of being dogshit 95% of the time
they the ones who truly deserve the pearly gates of being pseudo meta for 5% of their lifespan in the game
smoky vale
be me with higher io on my warrior
sullen dove
yea cuz u havent logged in on that creature in like 45 years
smoky vale
wrong
dapper goblet
Gio67
sullen dove
pee oh 67
dapper goblet
You are pisslow dog compared to wonka
sudden tusk
300% auto attack damage
rotund ginkgo
sullen dove
Baby binky tardy mode with goober wannabe blizzard addons
time to main panda classic
paglephile rises
dapper goblet
Real
sudden tusk
yapplebees57
whenever i went to applebees i got an oreo shake
rose bay
Wakes up, fury warrior damage nerfed by 30% auto damaged increased by 400%
Guess we taking autos never missing again
warm crag
feral ivy
someone who did demmy mythic help me answer a question
my RL said and showed the WA say go left during this moment (hes a mage) why
winter shoal
It's a little better in aoe usually
Worse in single target though usually
And feels like shit
winter shoal
my RL said and showed the WA say go left during this moment (hes a mage) why
tank will be going right, you don't want to get bonked and knocked into boss
gaunt loom
will my overall dps go up? if so, i guess i should try running this talent.
cobalt kernel
powerful for pad frenzy for real dmg
hallow sphinx
lol
solid oracle
Lol
sullen dove
LoL
flat river
Dota 2
cobalt kernel
necrophos
flat river
Techies
silver tapir
anyone having sudden FPS lag/spikes. no idea why its been killing me 2 days now
wow suddenly eating like 97% of memory/cpu
earnest canyon
wow suddenly eating like 97% of memory/cpu
U clicked a bitcoin miner
clever belfry
These battle dads never knew what was coming for them....
hallow sphinx
Honestly bring back that level of sniper glint, fuck recons lmao
all of them are dorks
clever belfry
glintoids
hallow sphinx
hehe
clever belfry
its also just really easy and boring idk
earnest canyon
Bring back tfc
brave lava
anyone having sudden FPS lag/spikes. no idea why its been killing me 2 days now
I have a similar bug if i'm stepping into Karesh
I just launch the game again once out of here and it's gone
silver tapir
i updated my drivers, that seemed to have done it for now
unreal onyx
Honestly bring back that level of sniper glint, fuck recons lmao
Recon is fun if you do drone shenanigans
earnest canyon
What happened to Fury?!
is that you
silver tapir
have you tried clicking the buttons? =p
dense elbow
is that you
I am in fact on the meters, yes
earnest canyon
are u the warrior
dense elbow
Sure, why not
earnest canyon
DONT MESS WITH ME
earnest canyon
u dud really well with ur cloak
silver tapir
is powerful enrage just BIS M+ build now or dependant on key?
warm crag
Recon is fun if you do drone shenanigans
ptfo
clever belfry
the EOD bot is clearly superior to the drone in every single way
also this vehicle
is by far the strongest in the game
warm crag
broken
clever belfry
it lives an AV mine
or an RPG
the TURFPRO will not be taken down
ive won against a helicopter in it
dense elbow
is powerful enrage just BIS M+ build now or dependant on key?
Not really BiS, kinda depends on your gear and stats. I use frenzied, sims say Frenzied is 0.5% better or so for myself. Even if it wasnt, I would take it for the gameplay flow
clever belfry
(rpging helos on a map with 100m flight ceiling is fair trust me)
unreal onyx
ptfo
No, I have missions to do
Aka "spot enemies inside objectives using recon gadgets"
300 of them
oblique trail
Recon is fun if you do drone shenanigans
Glinter shall be roadkilled by the transport chopper on cooldown
unreal onyx
Haters gonna hate, get snipered
unique frigate
Do u guys ever cast reck alone?
earnest canyon
Do u guys ever cast reck alone?
I do everything alone
unique frigate
but with the cdr it might line up with second avatar, was just wondering if its worth cast without avatar
eternal sundial
holding a cd with cdr is bad
coarse nest
but with the cdr it might line up with second avatar, was just wondering if its ...
Yeah send reck/bs on cd unless delaying it specifically for a damage amp or add spawn
Same with avatar
lavish pond
guys whats the addon that says when its a good time to use BT?
coarse nest
Well it was a weakaura but we don’t track Bloodthirst like that anymore
Now we track execute conditions instead with a weakaura
lavish pond
yy i know, but i see from streamers like noxiv or critcake they use it , or i think they use it xD
compact knot
yy i know, but i see from streamers like noxiv or critcake they use it , or i th...
They use to use it
I got rid of it awhile ago though, it has no effect on gameplay really.
winter shoal
(rpging helos on a map with 100m flight ceiling is fair trust me)
Anda I have a question for you
If you were to use "ding" as a verb in german, as in "to level up", would the past tense be ich dingte or ich dang or something else?
clever belfry
as its not a real word i think u can choose
ive heard "ich bin gedingt" before
🤷♂️
earnest canyon
Mein Charakter ist stärkergewordending!
zealous sluice
Simmed my gear, and it wants me to use Stone cursed idol over Improvised seaforium Pacemaker
Problem is that i most likely aint using the idol correctly and waste it a fair bit.
Should i just ''git gud'' and learn how to properly use the Idol, or is it better to just swap ?
earnest canyon
Simmed my gear, and it wants me to use Stone cursed idol over Improvised seafori...
cant sim for how you use a trinket. Robot is....like a robot and does everything perfectly with no running out or downtime
zealous sluice
cant sim for how you use a trinket. Robot is....like a robot and does everything...
Should be worth to just go without the idol then right ?
Instead of chasing that 0.1%
earnest canyon
I would. But some people are super anal about this stuff and i dont know you. I hate clunky trinkets, and while you can get used to idol, its still clunky to me 🤷♂️
zealous sluice
Seeing that i multiclass and this warrior is a prot main.
I'm just playing fury for the fun of it and i do enjoy it :p
0,1% in order to remove a timed trinket sounds amazing to me in hindsight xD
My memory thought it was 1% not 0.1% haha
lavish pond
https://imgur.com/sBXD91j
this is a so small difference. when u sim how many targets and time u set? cause i was expecting a bigger difference between these 2 trinkets
zealous sluice
this is a so small difference. when u sim how many targets and time u set? cause...
https://imgur.com/GGuvTwj
5 targets, 5 mins.
I'm no sim expert, i just picked stuff 😮
lavish pond
yeah alright, mine have so big difference xD
zealous sluice
I also thought stone would do '' alot more''.
Maybe it's because my base crit is so low? I dunno, again: Not a sim expert
lavish pond
nah i dont think so
now that i did myself with ur setting u used
i have also the same difference
but if u do it on 10 targets then i believe stone will be much higher
and maybe less minutes
sullen dove
I also thought stone would do '' alot more''.
Maybe it's because my base crit is...
it theoretically would do more in practice than a sim like that suggests (probably) because when you sim 5tar 5min youre in combat for 5 minutes straight and it compares the use of both trinkets at that maximum uptime, so you have pacemaker up at the start of every minute every time like clockwork and are using idol every minute 30
the like differing point there tho is most m+ packs dont live much longer than a minute anyway and there is downtime going from pack to pack, so say you use idol and are in combat for a minute then it takes like 15-20 seconds to get to another pack, then idols almost back up off cd and you've only been in combat for about 70% of its cd, so you like "get more value" out of it's cooldown since its ticking while youre not doing anything, similar concept to like duskthread being good in m+ cause even tho you might not be full health the entire time in a pack, youre almost always full health going into it so you get the extra 1k verse buff at the start of most pulls with all your cds
so just like feelsy opinion it probably is more than .1% in m+ but i dont think itd be much more than 1 or 2% unless tank does like omega giga pulls timed around your cds so u still dont have to use it if u dont like its vibe just a bit o yap on this thursday morning
olive jetty
hey guys, in retail dungeons. do i ever need to press avatar or recklessness outside an macro that binds recklessness to avatar ?
dense elbow
Need is a strong word, so I am gonna say no.
olive jetty
so i can remove reckless from bars ?
dense elbow
I wouldn't, but I see no reason why you couldn't be able to do it.
olive jetty
okay, maybe i need more explanation. where do i press recklessness without avatar?
winter shoal
You don't hold reck or ava to pair with the other
olive jetty
so macro both together on both buttons and press what lights up
winter shoal
You might hold either of them in cases like waiting for a damage amp on a boss, or if a pack is dying soon in M+
dense elbow
All is based on your decisions, maybe you want to hold avatar, cause the pack is dead in 30 and a boss is coming up - or a big pull. But ya still want to send reck.
Ya basically got to do a call based on your situation and plan
winter shoal
In general though the answer to "where do I press recklessness without avatar" is "every time your reck is available"
olive jetty
hm ok, so recklessness always on CD, and avatar with racial and what not in situations where i want pump
winter shoal
It's important that you press reck before avatar and charge on opener so you have enough rage to rampage first global
But otherwise you just kind of use them whenever they're available
Either of them
winter shoal
hm ok, so recklessness always on CD, and avatar with racial and what not in situ...
Both on cd in a vacuum
dense elbow
As long you dont start holding your avatar for extended time, sure
olive jetty
okay, thanks for your explanations. i think i got it
dense elbow
We believe in ya
godspeed
Just to trigger some peeps... ||I got reck bound to bladestorm||
winter shoal
I also have reck bound to bs
I also have reck bound to my ava macro
I also have a standalone reck bind
Plenty of situations where you'd want each of those
devout totem
charge + iv
sullen dove
@dapper goblet bk chicken sammy kinda fire
smoky vale
how 🔥
dapper goblet
<@139241006355841026> bk chicken sammy kinda fire
sullen dove
die
coarse nest
am
hollow ingot
Question: Does using Whirlwind before using Blade Storm make Blade Storm deal more damage? AOE
winter shoal
no
storm rune
If you're talking about meat cleaver it doesn't work for aoe abilities
hoary coral
Is Fury good/needed in mythic+? I'm thinking about learning one to push to 3k io. Is this feasible?
coarse nest
Absolutely
hoary coral
Any tips or resources to learn how to play at a high level? I have an ilvl 680, but honestly need to learn from scratch bc i suck at it atm lol.
coarse nest
I’d recommend reading the WoWhead guide
And Critcake or bizentein if you like watching gameplay
hoary coral
Alright, thanks
coarse nest
Glhf!
winter shoal
Gillneas and Farover also very skilled players whose vods you can review
(no glaze)
hoary coral
I'll look into them as well
hollow ingot
Can someone help me figure out what I'm doing wrong in the raid fight?
coarse nest
Which raid fight
left perch
the raid fight brew job job
coarse nest
hollow ingot
araz
lavish pond
guys where is gilded vial useful? to craft what?
sullen dove
Alchemy stuff probably?
lavish pond
maybe, i see dps playes getting it from ah and idk what it is
sullen dove
yea I mean… can prolly google or wowhead it and see recipes but I don’t think most players would just get random vials like that unless they’re alchemists or it is for something else
could buy health and damage potions and flasks and stuff
bit more normal
smoky vale
Gillneas and Farover also very skilled players whose vods you can review
who is gillneas
i only know 
winter shoal
A new skyholder would not know that name
rare fjord
can someone point me to a clip of taking the bottom left orb on first dimensius flight? Literally looking for hours and cant find one, except the liquid ones and the guy barely makes it in time by like .26s.
and he spawns on the leftmost part of the flight phase. When im near the top right, it doesnt feel doable at all
sudden tusk
skillneaus
winter shoal
Giovanni fifty seven attempts to not have parasocial relationships challenge
(joke (said with love))
last junco
Question: Does using Whirlwind before using Blade Storm make Blade Storm deal mo...
i sometimes send ww before bladestorm to squeeze in 3 raging blows inside enrage before rampage bc of brutal finish
but really just depends on your existing ww stacks
warm crag
can someone point me to a clip of taking the bottom left orb on first dimensius ...
you have ~2 seconds more than him that pathing should be doable
hollow ingot
i sometimes send ww before bladestorm to squeeze in 3 raging blows inside enrage...
If I send you the log, can you see what I'm doing wrong in the fight?
sudden tusk
If I send you the log, can you see what I'm doing wrong in the fight?
what fight are you trying to improve on
hollow ingot
araz
warm crag
you have ~2 seconds more than him that pathing should be doable
if you think its not doable you can fly slightly further left after picking up the orb and then take the portal vertically above you you should have 3-4 seconds to do that?
sudden tusk
just improve parse wise? whats your character name ill look it up
hollow ingot
just improve parse wise? whats your character name ill look it up
Skazzyw-area52
warm crag
can someone point me to a clip of taking the bottom left orb on first dimensius ...
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2610517661?t=1h52m33s i take the risky pathing + pick up the right one but timing is identical for left - if you're scared of not extending in time you can take the portal indicated by red after grabbing your bomb
hollow ingot
just improve parse wise? whats your character name ill look it up
I would like to know everything I did wrong and what I can improve
sudden tusk
I would like to know everything I did wrong and what I can improve
yeah just looking through it
warm crag
madox can you tell me everything i did wrong and what i can improve
hollow ingot
yeah just looking through it
thanks for that
hoary coral
So I'm having a weird issue. I seem to do more damage with the single target rotation than the aoe rotation against 5 training dummies. Thoughts on how to fix this? I'm using wowhead rotations to learn.
sudden tusk
madox can you tell me everything i did wrong and what i can improve
yeah by taking a quick look your name is spongie and unfortunatly i cannot improve that
warm crag
rude?
sudden tusk
on the plus side your name is spongie and thats pretty cool
sudden tusk
becuase how can i improve perfection
sudden tusk
thanks for that
Looking at your rotation you should save Roar for AoE or when you run out of Raging blow charges instead of sending it like a CD. it doesn't do much outside of aoe
Also for a melee it looks like you are doing a LOT of damage to the spawned arcane echo add which should be only killed by ranged since you are unable to cleave off the boss for the small add spawns
You are also not padding enough on add damage probably becuase you are killing the echo. your fight duration is 6:30 when most guilds at this point are around 4:30
smoky vale
just improve parse wise? whats your character name ill look it up
help can oyu do me
im a big noobus like @sullen dove
hardy shuttle
Me next
sullen dove
im a big noobus like <@593536556472729602>
do not mention me in the same breath as you
hardy shuttle
are you resil 19s yet
Yeah, streets 21 done. But still need 20s on flood and priory
smoky vale
im falling behind man
sudden tusk
thanks for that
Also it looks like it takes you almost 5 seconds to rampage at the start of combat. you should use the macro
#showtooltip
/cast Recklessness
/cast Avatar
/cast Charge
at the start of all combat situations to allow you to start combat with 79 rage so a single melee swing lets you rampage instantly getting into the flow of combat and starting your enrage uptime
hardy shuttle
im falling behind man
I timed a random halls 20 with a legendary 3700 bdk
sudden tusk
Speaking of enrage uptime you are oly at 85% it should be at least 95% which means either enrage is falling off losing a large amount of damage
winter shoal
Also it looks like it takes you almost 5 seconds to rampage at the start of comb...
Or heroic throw before pressing reck+charge, will guarantee you're at 80 rage
sudden tusk
or you just gotta hit more buttons on cd to keep enrage uptime its very important for overall performance
sudden tusk
thanks for that
you are also only using 1 embelishment currently. Because you have a crafted weapon you should add Darkmoon: Ascension to your crafted weapon, and the "writhing armor band" to your bracers to double the effect of the embelished effect
which will only be more potent as your group has extended fight lengths
Looking at your execute usage you probably are also not using it optimally so if you want there is a weak aura available that will "ding" whenever its the proper time to execute with 2 stacks of MfE or any stacks sub 20%
situations like this probably lead to bad enrage uptime/ as well as it looks like you do manually BT a decent amount
the only time you want to try to get to 5 stacks of slaughtering strikes is after a bladestorm to pair with the Brutal Finish hero talent.
sudden tusk
thanks for that
Did someone just private your logs while i was looking through them
they are now privated and the only thing available is your prot logs from pugs
warm crag
lmao
sudden tusk
I didn't say any of this to admonish or make fun of you you man there's nothing to be embarrassed or concerned about. Everyone starts somewhere
hollow ingot
Also for a melee it looks like you are doing a LOT of damage to the spawned arca...
arcane echo It's the add that needs the soak to spawn, right?
sudden tusk
Yeah after you soak the big circle it spawns an add ranged should be dealing with it while melee cleave off boss and kill the small orbs
since the tank normally pulls the copy of the boss out of the raid
hollow ingot
Also it looks like it takes you almost 5 seconds to rampage at the start of comb...
I will do this
hoary coral
Would i be better off relearning dk and pushing from ~2100 to 3k io? Getting declined nonstop for mythic+ on my alt Fury feels bad. No one wants to play with fresh characters atm. 😅
I can play fury another season i guess lol
sudden tusk
its just hard to get the ilvl of people for keys
even 12s are flooded with 725 characters so your name probably isnt even showing on the list
dry sentinel
Would i be better off relearning dk and pushing from ~2100 to 3k io? Getting dec...
fury does well in keys once you're geared, but yeah. you're going to have a tough time with any undergeared character
hoary coral
Is Unholy or Frost wanted more for group comp? I can do either.
sudden tusk
Is Unholy or Frost wanted more for group comp? I can do either.
both are fine. dont have to play anything specific to get 3k
its just probably your Ilvl is low compared to everyone else signing up to keys so unless you run your own and spam 10s/12s off your own key the chance to get invited is very low just based on ilvl
hollow ingot
Looking at your execute usage you probably are also not using it optimally so if...
I don't know what MfE is.
sudden tusk
I don't know what MfE is.
Marked for Execution. it is the debuff you apply to enemies through Slayer Strikes
hollow ingot
the only time you want to try to get to 5 stacks of slaughtering strikes is afte...
I also don't know exactly when to use BT.
sudden tusk
I also don't know exactly when to use BT.
for BT you basically use it when you have nothing else. Raging Blow>thunderous Roar>Bloodthirst for your filler spells
its very low priority
hollow ingot
since the tank normally pulls the copy of the boss out of the raid
The add that spawns along with soak, the tanks do in a strange way, so we're left with this add.
sudden tusk
If thats the strat you guys are using cant really be helped, but as melee you should basically never leave the boss as you cleave the adds
hollow ingot
If thats the strat you guys are using cant really be helped, but as melee you sh...
Could you prioritize the areas I need to improve to make it easier for me to see what I need to do?
sudden tusk
Could you prioritize the areas I need to improve to make it easier for me to see...
Use your Roar for more aoe damage for the adds, Use the macro i posted at the start of combat to get things rolling quickly. Focus on only using BT if you cant Raging blow or Rampage
most of it is just rotational play which will soak in as you play. time on target dummies also help
Oh and tracking your enrage uptime and keeping enraged is a big damage gain. start with those
winter shoal
Could you prioritize the areas I need to improve to make it easier for me to see...
If you plug your log into wowanalyzer.com it should tell you if you're making common mistakes. In particular, if you go to the timeline view, it'll show all your casts and highlight ones it flags as incorrect or inefficient
keen kindle
If you plug your log into wowanalyzer.com it should tell you if you're making co...
Worth noting that I don't know if Wowanalyzer is currently up to date or even maintained for fury
winter shoal
Worth noting that I don't know if Wowanalyzer is currently up to date or even ma...
What if I told you that you can go to wowanalyzer.com and check the changelog
OR the spec support tab
OR put in a log and go to the about tab
keen kindle
What if I told you that you can go to wowanalyzer.com and check the changelog
Yes
But this is a usual disclaimer 🤷♂️
winter shoal
<#244907029251096586>
I'm not promoting shit
Intentionally keeping my name off that shit in an official capacity
earnest canyon
Fucking No Dedicated Maintainer....he needs to pull his finger out
winter shoal
But this is a usual disclaimer 🤷♂️
I guess I just don't see the value in making a statement about something maybe being true when you can just quickly verify it yourself through multiple methods
keen kindle
Fair
sorry
I just don't trust wowanalyzer due to being out of date for multiple years for specs I play
winter shoal
It's an open source tool, best way to make sure your spec is up to date is to update it yourself 🙂
keen kindle
Massive true, if I knew how to
winter shoal
tbh most of the heavy lifting has already been done by the core maintainers, several people have contributed without prior programming experience
And it's pretty much all typescript which is imo the easiest language to work with (although it's what I use most for work so I'm biased)
sudden tusk
when i was a kid my favorite thing to do was eat a bigbowl of cereal
modest condor
when i was a kid my favorite thing to do was put a bigbowl on my head and pretend it's a helm
winter shoal
when i was a kid my favorite thing to do was eat a bigbowl of cereal
Have you tried eating a big bowl of oats tho
winter shoal
when i was a kid my favorite thing to do was put a bigbowl on my head and preten...
the government doesn't want you to know that you can still do this
modest condor
no way
sudden tusk
Have you tried eating a big bowl of oats tho
winter shoal
Where did you get this photograph of me
feral ivy
masssive prog demmy mythic 19%
sullen dove
first pull with 20 people alive after first platform poggers!
280 pulls into the boss!
(died 5 seconds into plat2 cuz no marker for add position and soaks got exploded lole)
feral ivy
first pull with 20 people alive after first platform poggers!
big tip is save roar for last wall of platform 2 also all wall u can BS
like when u need to kill voidwarden
sullen dove
winter shoal
I just send BS on pargoth at the start of the platform but we didn't really have many issues with add dam
and my roar comes up before 2nd add set on plat2 anyways
earnest canyon
idk been ok enough this week for some reason
You should say to urself "things might be bad, but at least im not that guy badpitt"
sullen dove
gio 67
indigo pike
what am I supposed do during first boss of gambit when tank pulls big guys with boss and just sits in the circles
besides cry
modest condor
stand in the circles and die, then complain at the tank
make sure to use as many gamer words as possible
final birch
do more dam
sullen dove
dont die next time perhaps
smoky vale
dont die next time perhaps
i havent died
earnest canyon
i havent died
press ur damage buttan
brave lava
big tip is save roar for last wall of platform 2 also all wall u can BS
If you mean get more DPS from roar on small adds from the wall, this does not work
If they doesn't die, damage doesn't count on the log
Our fire mage is always skyrocketting on P2 on details because of ignite spreading but on logs, he's far from the top
brave lava
I use it only on 4th set of adds cause mine take all the dot before dying and tbh, i don't use it everytime
lapis rose
Guys can someone explain , on big pulls like gambit , flood , arakara, we spamming rb for reaper and full ignoring even wa with execute, or we press it on 3stacks ?
I can’t rly feel what better
dense elbow
Guys can someone explain , on big pulls like gambit , flood , arakara, we spammi...
Press Exe if you need to get BS ready for the next pack, if nah, just spam RB
3 stack Exe is nice prio dam to bring down the prio mobs, do that if group needs it
lapis rose
Press Exe if you need to get BS ready for the next pack, if nah, just spam RB
3...
But if we can use like 2 bs on pull it’s not better then spam rb and ignore execute for reaper?
dense elbow
You going to take that decision after you reset your first bladestorm
All that matters is that you got BS ready for the next pull. If you can get in two spins on one pack, do it. But dont shoot yourself in the foot sending BS #2 and be stuck without
lapis rose
You going to take that decision after you reset your first bladestorm
How much overall I should have in 18arakara?
dense elbow
How much overall I should have in 18arakara?
What matters is team performance, not individual. But to give a number, I would presume somewhere between 12 to 10 million
Your DPS is directly impacted by the teams, so what really matters is that you got the overall as a unit to get it done and in time
lapis rose
What matters is team performance, not individual. But to give a number, I would ...
I Time yesterday like that, I should have more on like 1-2b but I die with open cds on last big pulls, but what with hunter damage
sour frigate
Its fine
sudden sail
Hi, I have a question about the Fury Warrior! Is the Bloodthirst spell just a filler ability, or should it be used on cooldown? I'm having trouble understanding the difference. Thanks! 😄
high sedge
use it when nothing else is up or if you go into a pack without BS
sudden sail
Right ! Ok ok
burnt stone
Hello everyone, I'm currently playing with the goal of pushing M+ 20 keys. Recently, while checking Raider.IO, I started wondering about one particular talent choice — whether I should pick Frenzied Enrage or Powerful Enrage. Is there any specific guideline for choosing between the two? Or which one would you personally recommend?
sour frigate
Iirc frenzied slightly better st powerful slightly better aoe
oblique pond
I wonder has any of you changed the spell que window for fury? because sometimes i feel like my fingers are pressing the buttons faster but they game is not registering it or smt
eternal sundial
@smoky valeBALD
hollow ingot
Use your Roar for more aoe damage for the adds, Use the macro i posted at the st...
thank you very much
hollow ingot
Use your Roar for more aoe damage for the adds, Use the macro i posted at the st...
Would there be some kind of aura to help me use the right skills? / Is there some kind of proc I need to use at the right time?
When I started playing Death Knight, I noticed some procs that my aura wasn't showing, and I had to look them up in Warrior mode as well. Are there any similar ones I could look for?
I'm wondering how much enrage I need to have in a fight?
feral ivy
If you mean get more DPS from roar on small adds from the wall, this does not wo...
I use it on that last set of wall we have to break because it’s the “hardest” wall and just trying to help as much as possible. Not for logs
brave lava
I use it on that last set of wall we have to break because it’s the “hardest” wa...
If you want to kill the add from the wall, you better just cleave from him instead of using roar, kinda pointless to roar
But you can try to have bs for each set
feral ivy
If you want to kill the add from the wall, you better just cleave from him inste...
The way my tanks are positioning the big add there is a small window were melee can’t hit for like 1 second because of the orbs coming out and that’s where I throw it out
brave lava
The way my tanks are positioning the big add there is a small window were melee ...
Don't think it's relevant, you should maximise rb on the big mini-boss for max rts damage on other adds
strong gazelle
Hi all! I have one question, I've started playing fury recently, I have 720 ilvl with stats that still need adjusting without being too far off. I was watching some dmg prio in keys overall and the only thing I don't understand is why for most pplz in keys Reap the Storm is the first dmg source by quite a lot and for me it's the second one after Raging Blow. What am I doing wrong in order to fuck this up? I guess there's something in my rotation that doesn't work as it should
earnest canyon
@smoky vale this dude needs advice about you
remote bobcat
Hi all! I have one question, I've started playing fury recently, I have 720 ilvl...
use bladestorm as a set-up cd, not as much as a pure damage cd
the reap damage comes from your 4set
the only reliable set-up button to enable your 4set is bladestorm
so we always want to have bladestorm beginning of every pack (and boss too), in order to enable our 2set and 4set
this also means that you may need to hold the button at times
lunar quail
use bladestorm as a set-up cd, not as much as a pure damage cd
absolute noob here. Could you explain that further maybe?
remote bobcat
absolute noob here. Could you explain that further maybe?
our 4set is what enables the reap the storm damage spam, as reap the storm procs on raging blows thanks to our 4set
it requires overwhelmed on the targets affected
there is only one reliable way to apply overwhelmed to multiple targets - and that is bladestorm
so we want bladestorm ready to apply overwhelmed to all targets
as this, in turn, actives our 4set, which means reap the storm procs, big aoe damage
lunar quail
Ist overwhelmed consumed by raging blow?
remote bobcat
no
its just a debuff you apply
and it stays on the target
as long as u have uptime, at least
like it doesnt fall off because our natural gameplay reapplies it all the time
but we need it to have our 2set and 4set effects
visual sleet
following up on the importance of opening with an enraged BS, how important is it to use DR on aoe?
remote bobcat
DR?
visual sleet
dragon raor
remote bobcat
oh you mean thunderous roar
visual sleet
yes mb
remote bobcat
troar is complete dogshit in ST but its actually good in aoe (the DoT effect, at least). So we do actually troar at 2+ targets
troar before bladestorm usually
smth like combat start -> reck -> charge + whirlwind + ava -> rampage -> troar -> bladestorm -> raging blows -> rampage
visual sleet
nice ty, one last thing plz, when reck is up you tend to pool rage real fast and cap super quick, in those cases do we send rampage at 130 rage everytime or its ok to spam a few RB for RTS?
remote bobcat
nice ty, one last thing plz, when reck is up you tend to pool rage real fast and...
its a bit feelycraft but most people kind of agree to send raging blows over rampage in aoe, with rampage being there to re-enrage us once it falls off. The only exception is when the pack is about to die and you know you wont have bladestorm ready in time then you full send rampages asap to get bladestorm back for next pack/boss
visual sleet
i seem to have overlooked the main mechanic of RTS and BS, that was very insightful, ty kronzo
remote bobcat
i seem to have overlooked the main mechanic of RTS and BS, that was very insight...
np, feel free to ask questions anytime
warriors support warriors
honor and brotherhood type shii
lucid osprey
Fresh Meat over Improved BT for M+ then?
remote bobcat
Fresh Meat over Improved BT for M+ then?
QoL vs small small dps gain
I personally go fresh meat but it's up to you honestly
lucid osprey
lmao
pure crow
in aoe and im not enraged, do i rampage or apply fresh meat first?
sudden tusk
I'm wondering how much enrage I need to have in a fight?
For flights where you aren't forced off the boss a lot try to aim for at least 95% enraged uptime. There is an execute weak aura to help you know when to cast it in the #ui-addons-manager section of the discord
remote bobcat
in aoe and im not enraged, do i rampage or apply fresh meat first?
rampage > bt
so if you can rampage to enrage yourself then you should rampage to enrage yourself
hope that makes sense
also hiiii @sudden tusk love the pee color it rly fits your vibe
pure crow
rampage > bt
so if you *can* rampage to enrage yourself then you *should* rampa...
so i prio getting enraged over the whirlwind buff?
remote bobcat
so i prio getting enraged over the whirlwind buff?
nah whirlwind buff is a higher prio in aoe
pure crow
cause somtimes i find myself mashing rb after bladestorm and run out of whirlwind stacks
pure crow
so idk if i rampage first or ww
sudden tusk
also hiiii <@110993922691477504> love the pee color it rly fits your vibe
Kyogrezo57
ember apex
speaking of collabs, who wants to see a Warcraft x Skibidi collab
earnest canyon
noone
ember apex
alright, whats ur ideal collab
earnest canyon
none as I am an adult
ember apex
i could prob see some 67 stuff if that's where ur gonna go w/ it
none ok sick so lets no one do anything ever
what about like a Warcraft x Monsanto cross over for like a big farming profession add?
hollow ingot
Kyogrezo57
Speaking of DG because I saw a log 100 parse and people use BT a lot in DG.
I saw that it reached 271 casts.
sudden tusk
Bladestorm auto casts BT so the amount casted is higher then the amount the button is pressed
ember apex
assuming u take the unhinged talent which i do because i am
remote bobcat
assuming u take the unhinged talent which i do because i am
everyone takes unhinged
smoky vale
is the only reason to take unhinged to try to get 5 stacks of slaughter house for brutal finish
remote bobcat
is the only reason to take unhinged to try to get 5 stacks of slaughter house fo...
what
gio what are u sayin
remote bobcat
also no
fresh meat exists to get enraged when u dont have 80 rage
like during gather maybe
smoky vale
it felt so useless tbh
most pulls either i had like 5s of spamming ww for free rage
or already had rage to ramp
strong gazelle
use bladestorm as a set-up cd, not as much as a pure damage cd
tyvm ^^ I'll try that
sterile cairn
hey hey
I have a question
why is duskthread lining now better then writhing armor?
junior gale
why is duskthread lining now better then writhing armor?
Because you should have full BIS at this point and have 2 mythic weapons. So no need for crafted.
sterile cairn
oh
I don't have full BIS
Since well I started out way later in the season
My braces still have writhing armor on them, and I have a crafted weapon which I could replace with a mythic greataxe I got
junior gale
Embellishments are hot ass don't lose sleep over it. The answer what to craft is simple do you have 2 mythic weapons yes or no? If yes get duskthread. If no craft some weapons.
sterile cairn
I do have one mythic greataxe
and the photon sword but that's a hero item
Thanks at least 🙂
winter shoal
Embellishments are hot ass don't lose sleep over it. The answer what to craft is...
ascension still sims better than 2x mythic weapons for me in full bis idk
in raid at least
and M+ is a fake mickey mouse game mode
coarse nest
💯
junior gale
ascension still sims better than 2x mythic weapons for me in full bis idk
think for me they were simming pretty neutral for raid so I just didnt give a fuck got a 2nd wep and swapped over. Embellishments suck too much ass to put any more thought into it.
solid oracle
idk
feels like embelishes are kinda worthless
have full bis on 3 chars and in raid 727 crafted still better
junior gale
they been worthless since the start of TWW
you just craft the wep at the start of the season cuz its a mythic ilvl wep
solid oracle
ye bust last tier around this time i had already 2 myth weps
hardy cargo
arent they within variance
junior gale
arent they within variance
pretty much
hardy cargo
mine simmed within variance so I just took the vers bc I want to be tankier against 1 shots in keys
and I havent even noticed a difference in raid
solid oracle
first 6 bosses should be no diff, last 2 i think yes
idk if its sim bait or double myth wep is that shit
junior gale
your playing around with small numbers anyways at that point
doesnt really matter at the end of the day
solid oracle
kinda true
hardy cargo
but she said the big numbers hurt....
calm estuary
Can someone help me understand the value of sacbrood over stone idol in high keys?
I've simmed and ran both in dungeons, and both just kinda lean towards stone idol.
Stone idol is simming at least 5% more for in 5-target, and it was 0.1% less in ST.
Running them in dungeons I just did way more overall with stone idol
is there something I'm missing. Do you need to track the procs of sacbrood if you play it? Is it purely for more ST?
junior gale
this is a funny situation of you overcomplicating something so simple
some people dont want to use an on use channel trinket
calm estuary
I don't think people playing at the 22 level are using that reasoning
junior gale
remote bobcat
I don't think people playing at the 22 level are using that reasoning
csi more aoe, sac+antenna has very competitive aoe anyway but significantly more st
calm estuary
Do your base line stat weights influence the choice a bit at all as well? Like if you have very little crit in the first place, you gain more benefit from the crit trinkets?
smoky vale
I don't think people playing at the 22 level are using that reasoning
@hallow sphinx
calm estuary
say it aint so
calm estuary
is life really that simple
hallow sphinx
Can someone help me understand the value of sacbrood over stone idol in high key...
TLDR, stone idol feel like shit and I don't like it (costs like 2-3 gcds to cast it). Fury damage so flat anyway double passive is fine.
smoky vale
hi pookie
calm estuary
TLDR, stone idol feel like shit and I don't like it (costs like 2-3 gcds to cast...
well that makes me feel at ease then. thanks king
hallow sphinx
NP, if you dont like it dont play it
it isnt potent enough to warrant the bullshit
calm estuary
this is my favorite timeline
hallow sphinx
it also just sucks in ST, honestly a dead trinkit on bosses IMO
balmy compass
I'm simming my present gear and comparing interloped plated boots and astral antenna trinket at max level. For dungeon slice default sim settings interloped is simming 100k more than the astral antenna. So this value might scale even more in either items because it's a % chance to proc the abilities within these items correct?
Is reshis grace on interloped very useful for m+ to scale the reshis wrap ability when compared to passive orb procs of astral antenna on multiple targets in m+?
I'm comparing these two items because I have last 3 chips to spend from dinar so confused which one to go
storm rune
Trinkets don't scale as well as most other slots from ilvl, in fact they're generally some of the lowest value ilvl upgrades
But also the boots are pretty good by themselves, +40-50% (H/M) damage on something that is a few % of your overall is good from a passive
smoky vale
@flat river
young swan
hes EU
hardy cargo
Idk how to ping mods role anymore but #vanilla-discussion needs some deletion
young swan
ty
sudden tusk
gilded pawn
I'm simming my present gear and comparing interloped plated boots and astral ant...
It’s mostly ppm for trinkets
Not % chance
meager bay
muted storm
What are some tips to break into 15 keys? Got mostly 14s timed 3157io and been pugging mostly. Lots of groups already have prot warriors so its not easy getting invites if I dont have a 15 timed.
Better to finish resil 14s first?
Should I ditch the odyn's fury spec, it seems to have the highest opening burst on trash but boss fights st are average
hardy bluff
What are some tips to break into 15 keys? Got mostly 14s timed 3157io and been ...
use your own key mate
muted storm
use your own key mate
Yep I really should start doing that
unique frigate
how did i do mouseover kick macro again?
remote bobcat
#showtooltip Pummel
/cast [@mouseover, harm, exists][@target] Pummel
unique frigate
Lovely, thanks!
random hill
Hey quick question i saw a lot of warriors switching from frenzie enrage to powerfull enrage on high keys? Does it sim better for u guys? Or is it better for high keys?
I wasnt around lately so im out of touch
earnest canyon
Hey quick question i saw a lot of warriors switching from frenzie enrage to powe...
I think powerful is more dps, but frenzied gives you the speed buff, so it depends i guess
remote bobcat
Hey quick question i saw a lot of warriors switching from frenzie enrage to powe...
powerful enrage provides more AoE, frenzied enrage provides more ST. That's literally it.
random hill
thanks guys
plush zephyr
lost saffron
Balls
flat river
Balls
fading sky
What are some tips to break into 15 keys? Got mostly 14s timed 3157io and been ...
Im almost resi 18, by doing all keys
Only key u can sneak into is a gmbt
wild mural
honest trail
450 pulls god
x_x
I died to the LAST circle I'm so trash xD
59 parse, so bad xD
dapper goblet
450 pulls sheebus Christ
honest trail
I know right
hollow ingot
I need to use a whirlwind with 4+ targets, right?
fading sky
I need to use a whirlwind with 4+ targets, right?
?_?
u need to WW every 4 globals
noting about number of targets
any target above 1 u use ww every 4 globals else u dont cleave
smoky vale
limpid sentinel
smoky vale
<@335579026259312641>
limpid sentinel
this is the fury channel lil bro