#fury

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sudden heath
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Didn’t they remove it once before and then bring it back?

remote bobcat
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(theres so much wrong with roar oh my god im gonna crash out)

sudden tusk
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like how roar got shot again going into LoU

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for no reason

remote bobcat
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man i miss nerubar palace

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raid-wise that tier was rly fucking good for fury

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so fun

unkempt grotto
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Did i miss a memo on going back to Frenzied Enraged instead of Powerful Enrage?

candid falcon
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The nerf we ate on nerubar palace was so unnecessary man

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God forbid a spec excel in its niche

remote bobcat
unkempt grotto
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I dont know, a long time ago, Maybe i missed the memo to never go there in the first place.

earnest canyon
unkempt grotto
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maybe it was some Thane shit i never unlearned?

balmy compass
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For key interrupts on some of the monsters in a mob pull at m+ keys selecting (left click) on the exact monster is becoming challenging for me 🙁 how do I practice this

remote bobcat
candid stag
spare steppe
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saladhar hurts

hallow sphinx
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Stop

sudden tusk
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: (

balmy compass
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But what about the monsters than cannot be interrupted and can be just cc'd?

hallow sphinx
sudden tusk
frozen grove
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I'm having issues with the ww weakaura loading during boss fights - anyone had this issue before?

earnest canyon
meager bay
meager bay
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Right so not griefing lmao

young swan
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it just sucks for consistency

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just randomly get bladestorms without 3 stacks of ID

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slayer strike droughts are way more common

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its not really griefing its just cringe to play sometimes if u get bad luck

modest condor
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yeah if you do 0.5% less dps you're griefing

young swan
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real

molten flicker
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If you're at capped rage after bladestorm, should you spam RB or hit rampage? If you spam RB, what if you get like 4 resets to the point where you have to RB RB RB RB WW Rampage all while 130rage, i'm guessing you just press rampage sometime before that surely? AOE

feral ivy
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massive prog we got more than half of the raid alive getting to p3 demmy mythic

winter shoal
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Same goes for exe conditionals

molten flicker
modest condor
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well up to 5 times, but yeah that's correct

winter shoal
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You also want to maintain your WW stacks of course in aoe

molten flicker
modest condor
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you would probably have to be in lust for enrage to last that long, but yeah

molten flicker
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But if you have the 2 stacks of marked you would press execute instead and then back to RB right?

modest condor
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correct

ebon venture
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Is erradicating Arcanocore simming better than Antennae for y'all?

lean heart
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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

young swan
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Q

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W

earnest canyon
modest condor
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grats

lean heart
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look at me mid air

earnest canyon
lean heart
earnest canyon
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Lmao makes sense you killed it when your tank is bigger than the raid boss

lean heart
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tru

lean heart
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i tried to hit impending victory to heal but misclicked Leap into boss and died on kill

sullen dove
earnest canyon
# sullen dove

that's how I imagine you look 100%, pale skin and bald included

sullen dove
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that is how i feel yes

sudden tusk
iron portal
earnest canyon
iron portal
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Design is very humane

glad tinsel
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How are you guys feeling about the changes in midnight so far

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I just read them

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And it sounds so bad when reading how the gameplay has changed

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Being forced to press bloodthirst does not sound fun i like spamming rb,execute and rampage

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But then again only 2nd day of beta

flat river
glad tinsel
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Okay

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But is rampage weaker or stronger

flat river
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Not sure about numbers

glad tinsel
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Maybe the nerf on the rage generation got to me

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Cause that made me react hard

hollow leaf
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Gm

earnest canyon
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bm

unreal onyx
hollow moat
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Yo!
Do I wnna hold to pop reckless and avatar at the same time?
Or pop one reckless in between?

New to fury btw.🥴

sour frigate
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U want to sync reck with bs mostly avatar would be fine but not mandatory

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Dont hold if its too much time tho like >20 secs

hollow leaf
oblique pond
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Can someone explain to me why fury warrior require so much more uptime then other specs and suffers more from interruptions?

hollow leaf
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Away from boss = no hit boss

oblique pond
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that goes for all melee its not a good explenation why fury suffers from it more then others

brave lava
gilded pawn
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It creates a feedback loop

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If you walk away from the boss you break the loop

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And big dps loss

agile field
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the less uptime, the less uptime

earnest canyon
hollow leaf
earnest canyon
remote bobcat
half warren
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Hey

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what sim we are should use for get best items for M+ as fury

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or still we should use Patchwerk for m+ as well

hollow leaf
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Patchwerk

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Sim st adjust trinkets

half warren
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can you let me know whats theproblem i cant get sim what stats its better for craft nect

earnest canyon
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click "max" at the top for all reagents

half warren
half warren
agile field
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this "too expensive" setting is annoying

half warren
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i find it what i should do ty guys

agile field
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1584 combinations.

remote bobcat
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bro you can use win+shift+s

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instead of lightshot

earnest canyon
plush zephyr
hollow moat
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Can u do leap in the last ara kara boss to skip mechanic?

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To skip the root thingy

hollow moat
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nice

plush zephyr
fading sky
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Same

heavy dock
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wdym glitched

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you prob didnt do it at the right time

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i've legit never failed it after i learned how to do it in early season 1

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timing is quite forgiving too

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the only problem i had was once when i got the small 'succ' it put my camera in the ceiling and i clicked hc leap there causing me to miss it lol

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ever since i keep my camera lower

fading sky
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Dc sometimes

remote bobcat
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honestly

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it never bugs out if you do the right timing

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the boss knocks you up a lil bit at like 1sec left of the cast or whatever

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if you leap before that ur cooked

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if you leap during the small knockup you win every single time

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@hollow moat @plush zephyr @fading sky

fading sky
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I know

remote bobcat
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fair enuff

hot pivot
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do you guys prefer roar or spear on MT?

hollow leaf
hollow leaf
ornate gust
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Why not 100? 😐

wraith wharf
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priest was .2 seconds late in PIing you, sorry

ornate gust
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i didn't receive PI medge

wild mural
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Dps

flat river
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should've had a better gaming monitor @ornate gust

modest condor
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also do you ever sleep?

iron portal
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Well luckily for you, I dont actually stalk you

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And I definitely sleep at 4 AM

gaunt loom
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aldani 20 priory 19 new record today

earnest canyon
gaunt loom
wild mural
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Chat did we cook

coarse nest
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Up 15
W!

wild mural
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while going 1/5

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Im so bad at pvp lmao

coarse nest
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I haven’t done a PvP since SL s1 😆

wild mural
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i want the 2100 weps

remote bobcat
wild mural
young swan
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weps require 2100

remote bobcat
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why doesnt it say that in the post

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fkn wowhead

wild mural
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idk

young swan
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because just getting 2100 doesnt actually award them

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you have to buy them from the vendor

remote bobcat
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damn

warm crag
wild mural
sinful spoke
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guys i left my last guild and i lost my spark for wow

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next expac angle?

winter shoal
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next expac looking sick bruv

sinful spoke
wild mural
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on god?

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is arms gonna be meta

winter shoal
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🔮

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From what I've heard, arms is actually pretty smooth atm

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Execute range is a little funky, but for the most part it's good

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I've heard fury is kind of mid but part of that is just having really low haste

wild mural
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holy

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i hope arms is good

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kinda sad hero talents are continuing

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dont like colossus

compact knot
sinful spoke
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learn to love ur hero talents lol

wild mural
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it feels so clinky

sinful spoke
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they'll be here all the way to alst titan

wild mural
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clunky*

sinful spoke
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it doesnt feel clunky anymore

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maybe at the start of the expac

compact knot
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it hasnt been clunky for awhile

wild mural
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tbf I dont really understand it

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slayer arms is my baby

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my one true love

sinful spoke
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slayer arms is good in raid

wild mural
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etc

compact knot
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ive played all 6 warrior specs/hero talents

wild mural
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slayer arms in s1 keys made me so happy

compact knot
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think slayer arms is my least favorite by a large margin

sinful spoke
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chat elvui is dead right

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im gonna have to redo my ui again for the new expac

compact knot
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slayer arms < thane fury < slayer fury < prot thane < prot colo < arms colo

wild mural
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I think I saw weakauras on twitter basically saying elvui should work

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and they were bitches if they didnt try

remote bobcat
wild mural
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slayer arms > slayer fury > MT prot > everything else

compact knot
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slayer arms single handedly is ruined by juggernaut

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1 talent ruins the whole spec gameplay wise

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and if u dont take it u do negative dps

winter shoal
compact knot
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yeah its saved

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my only problem with arms colo is that it just was never very viable on ST

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also the problem some people had with lining cds up was purely skill issue

slate light
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Guys anyone know if big rock throw on dimi p2 platform 1 is baited like in heroic or scripted?

remote bobcat
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everyone is supposed to wait on left side to force it go on left side

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such that everyone then walks to other side

slate light
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alright so same as lower difs, cheers

sullen dove
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it does that in heroic huh?

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surely not

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never seen it be consistent like that

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sometimes just throws on the empty side even if no one’s there I’m psure

agile field
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does anyone know the heroic leap travel time at max distance? cause like wondering whats the cutoff to jump away from a mechanic due to staying at original location until landing

zenith thistle
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I have 6 dinars and ive completed all dungeons in a 12, but no mythic raids, Whats my best trinkets to buy?
I cant decide if a heroic astral will be better than a mythic seafoam for example

hardy bluff
sullen dove
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sounds like not mythic raid

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so presumably just m+

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or heroic raid ig

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harder to call dat content

hardy bluff
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can just get sacbrood and soleahs

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should work for everything

sullen dove
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soLeah critcake

zenith thistle
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Appreciate it. I dont think ill mythic raid. Mainly m+

sullen dove
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can consider cursed stone idol if u don’t mind the on use

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but yea sac definitely one, would think pace probably better than soleah as other if u just want 2 passives but eh not big deal

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if ur also willing to try and pug first 2-3 mythic most groups should be able to clear that pretty easily with current gear and raid buff

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maybe arcano or antenna but most of these again are pretty close to one another

sudden tusk
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Hate channeled trinkets

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playing with a music box when i wana hit something with a big stick

junior gale
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Hold on Mr Boss I got a do a puzzle real quick

left perch
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@smoky vale whats it like being 1 number off from being popular meme name

quiet breach
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almost at

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300 pulls

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nexus king

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:despair:

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thank god this fight is fun

feral ivy
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is there a way to see the dmg on ppl only in 2nd phase demmy

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in logs

balmy compass
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I'm saving my plummel interrupt for any 'MUST Interrupt' spells as per Quazii plater profile because it's 13s cd spell. But still my fellow pugs in m+ spam me saying 'warrior where kicks warrior where kicks'. Are they toxic or generally it's my mistake. We don't have any other interrupts right?

sullen dove
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i mean kinda depends what kinda crap the random plater profile demands you kick but think generally unless youre doing super high keys most kicks arent like insta group wipes or something

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would say its a tiny bit troll to just only kick what a random addon tells you to kick since its generally better to just use it more often and maybe help save random tank damage or even like firebolts being cast that can chunk ranged by like half their hp but not like it was from a particularly bad place if you are actually getting whatever u deem the "important" kicks are pretty often

silver tapir
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So yeah you're probably trolling a bit

earnest canyon
silver tapir
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Don't forget you got bolt and aoe stun if you gotta cover important cast and all ints are down

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Also your profile should show you the cast target. If it's tank you can probably just ignore it but kick mage/hunter casts or they get 1shot with any overlapping mechanic.

balmy compass
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Ok 👍

feral ivy
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Wtb mythic Denny nerf - his hand is not covering my whole screen

earnest canyon
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Small hands dimmy

brave lava
feral ivy
chilly ginkgo
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are there situation differences between frenzied enrage and powerful enrage? I see logs and top ppl doing the same key but swap it around with no consistency

radiant plank
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Which ever u like more

chilly ginkgo
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what if i like the one that does higher dps

high sedge
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frenzied usually better for prio/st powerful for aoe i'd guess

fading sky
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Is the hack

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If cast at me. I sr late

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If cast at hunt, i interrupt. If aoe i keep bolt

unique vigil
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is powerful enrage worth talenting instead of frenzied enrage in high target count keys like fg/arak/psf?

fading sky
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I use it

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I seem to do a bit more dmg

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In gen in all keys

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But might be coz u are less prone to mistakes or loosin enrage with it i dno

unique vigil
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I did a test on dummies they seem about equal but i feel like for higher target counts the 15% dmg is more useful than haste

mellow nebula
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Do I use avatar + recklessness always? Since I get reduced cd on reck how do I play with this? Should I just blast them off individually or?

gilded pawn
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So it doesn’t matter

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CDs on cd

mellow nebula
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so if I have reck available and avatar still on 20sec cd I jsut blast reck right

fading sky
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I simmed higher at 3 targets 5m on demon council

fading sky
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Am makes us just send shit

ashen siren
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Hi, why does Archimtiros recommend delaying Sudden Death until 2 stacks?

brave lava
hardy cargo
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well you wait for in a vacuum bc of the above, there are other conditions to pressing execute in which youd press at 1 or no sd stacks

cedar saffron
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Who are u?

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U a nothing u know that ?

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That’s what she said

remote bobcat
balmy compass
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So we have this shockwave cc skill right..when my plummel is on cd, without even selecting the target if i just use shockwave it will interrupt the monsters casts right?

solid lava
solid lava
balmy compass
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ohh

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only if they are stunned*

covert blaze
rotund ginkgo
covert blaze
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puzzle box from algethar coming back llul

warm crag
earnest canyon
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ur all banned

coarse nest
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U a nothing u know that ?

earnest canyon
late needle
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Orc warrior here, would it be worth to faction change to void elf or human because of the dps diff and either stun remove or teleport? Progressing 6/8 mythic and doing 15+ keys

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Sims say its roughly 1.2% more dps

coarse nest
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It will not make or break you whatsoever

warm crag
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absolutely not unless you have an obscene amount of money burning a hole in your wallet

coarse nest
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If you like the aesthetic of orc go with it

late needle
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I think on some fights or Dungeons the uptime might be higher. But its probably niche

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The VE teleport i mean

warm crag
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unless you're p much top 50 raiding or pushing like legit top keys racials won't matter

warm crag
eternal sundial
warm crag
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still got some r1s as her. curious?

dense elbow
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If ya ain't Nelf, did you really win? No, no you didn't

eternal sundial
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nelf cannot win

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or they would have that bum ass tree still

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noobers

fast zodiac
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Do i use bloodthirst at all?

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m+

remote bobcat
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Yea when u fail bladestorm

hardy shuttle
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Or to enrage with fresh meat i guess

fast zodiac
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Ok fury feels like the old outlaw gameplay holy shit this is fun , why was i sleeping on it

bold forge
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AOE by the time I'd ever use bloodthirst I have to reapply WW anyway

storm rune
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BT prio target innit

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Cuz bloodcraze

fast zodiac
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WHats the difference between versa flask and chaos? Isnt versa better?

young swan
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chaos means you get all 4 stats from tempered potions

fast zodiac
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oh ok ty

young swan
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if you have tempered vers from the flask you dont get it from the pot

fast zodiac
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Should i buy hero boots , or rather myth idol?

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Bought antena for first 3 dinars

storm rune
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Not an idol fan, channel trinkets aren't fun

young swan
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boots are more universal

hollow leaf
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looking good king

young swan
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thank u

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i got gifted a month of nitro so back to the goat enkidu

earnest canyon
young swan
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ur a basic bitch bad pitt

storm rune
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Once someone changes their PFP I have no idea who they are

earnest canyon
storm rune
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right? There's like 5 Gio's now because everyone has 57 in their name now

coarse nest
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Lmao

earnest canyon
ember apex
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Is this the warrior rework we were promised?

sudden tusk
winter shoal
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Pumpkin spice lattes are gas

storm rune
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I just recently found out there is in fact zero pumpkin in pumpkin spice

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my world view has been shattered

winter shoal
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Of course not

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It's spices you put on pumpkin, not spices made from pumpkin

warm crag
# sudden tusk

do you know that video of the guy asking chatgpt to decide which birthday cake to get and then it lists like the top 10 torture methods itd use to torture the guy

warm crag
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lots to ponder

storm rune
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Gio walked so we could run

sour frigate
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Giofiveseven.

frozen grove
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First time war - for ww, do you use up all 4 stacks before hitting ww again or do you ww before you lose the buff?

olive wraith
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Consume all 4 stacks

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Ww is a very low prio gcd

frozen grove
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Excellent ty

open prairie
ember apex
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Fugg that's fresh

balmy compass
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When we rampage to get enrage and then use bladestorm in m+

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It applies overwhelmed stacks right

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Then to get reap the storm procs we keep using RB

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But RB must be used while we are in enrage only?

young swan
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yeah

balmy compass
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Like after bladestorm if I have enough rage pop rampage and then spam RB for reap procs for better damage?

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Reap of the storm scales with enrage on for more dps?

olive wraith
balmy compass
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👍

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Apart from bladestorm what are other ways to apply overwhelmed stacks on multiple targets

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Bloodthirst?

olive wraith
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Reaps

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So cleaved bt are the most consistent before you get to 10

young swan
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consuming mfe stacks will work, but its really only reasonable on 1 target

agile field
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do u guys prio BT to build stacks at all?

young swan
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only if you dont have BS for the start of a pull

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which would be a fuck up

agile field
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ok haha

young swan
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other times u can press BT is if ur idiot tank pulls more stuff 10 seconds into a pull for no reason

pure crow
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why do we take brutal finish instead of the bladestorm one in m+?

ebon junco
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more dam

young swan
pure crow
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is the damage cap screwing us over

young swan
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BS does 1k damage, with talent it does 1.1k; against 5 targets bs does 5k damage, with bs talent it does 5.1k damage

pure crow
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damn it works that way i see now

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thought it would be 5.5k

young swan
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no its really bad

balmy compass
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So overall bis for both m+ and raid will be antenna in common but the other trinket must be swapped between cursed stone idol for m+ and aranacore for raid? is this for minmaxing or really usefull

agile field
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PoV you open group finder at night and report 29 advertisements and then find 2 actual raids across all difficulties open

dense elbow
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Then you relog to your alt, and see all the groups still up, and the same names you reported for months

red berry
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wish it was easier to just ignore ads in remix

cobalt relic
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all gg

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im 100 rio above cutoff

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is that enough

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IS IT ENOUGH

sullen dove
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no

earnest canyon
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Nein

cobalt relic
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are u srs

sullen dove
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200 above

earnest canyon
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I get title every season and try to be around 1k io clear to be safe

cobalt relic
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ok so I have to do dawn and hoa 21

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then

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gg

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eta ggf

sullen dove
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do em on 23 to be safe

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(idk prolly fine but also still have like 2 months of the season so dont just like afk or sum shit)

undone flower
gloomy loom
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Wait, in midnight we have to choose between avatar and bladestorm???

static otter
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does anyone here know hot to sim a fully stacked prism?

modest hollow
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What nameplate addon do you use @cobalt relic?

remote bobcat
remote bobcat
modest hollow
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Thank you very much

flat river
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i never saw that many advertisements

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ever

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even at end of DF

bronze badge
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why isnt netherprism better for p3 dime than other trinkets

smoky vale
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because fury has no burst

candid falcon
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probably because you'd rather have a real trinket for the rest of the fight

gaunt loom
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wonder what the score cut is gonna look like by the end of the season

cobalt relic
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hopefully 3.9 max

smoky vale
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i dont think na can do 20 psf fg

cobalt relic
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@smoky vale nor eu

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dw about it chief

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get dawn done and aim for 22 gambit/streets

earnest canyon
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gg

median marsh
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currently, i am monitoring WW stacks like this -
(1 used, 3 left)
taken from luxthos amazing WA pack and modified myself a bit

most of the WA just show the icon of WW and number of stacks and i dont like that

looking forward to midnight, is there a way to show WW stack like i am doing now?

agile field
median marsh
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1 bitcoin

smoky vale
ebon junco
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its gonna be above 3900

bitter palm
ebon junco
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Hi

young swan
median marsh
young swan
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they recently made it so spell casts specifically are no longer secret, and because the best way we have to track WW stacks right now is just seeing when WW was cast and subtracting 1 everytime another ability is cast, it should be pretty easily replicable by an addon dev

median marsh
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tyvm!

young swan
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idk about the bars tho

median marsh
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i hope someone will make that XS

quasi quarry
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in aoe is rb prioritized even over sudden death procs etc?

young swan
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kinda just depends a bit

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if you need cdr to get bs back before a back dies/at the start of a new one, def prio SD procs w/ marks

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otherwise, RB as much as possible unless if you're at 3 stacks of marked for execution

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or out of rb stacks obviously

quasi quarry
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ty for quick answer

young swan
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np

covert blaze
cobalt relic
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all gg

earnest canyon
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bg

gaunt loom
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how critcake do 30m on Hoa first pull

earnest canyon
gaunt loom
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lucky bruh

summer quail
balmy compass
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How do i add other important cooldowns like blade storm, recklessness, avatar in this Ui beside those 4 spells?

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not able to find the option in weakaura settings

storm rune
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depends on how the CD tracker was written, but generally find a similar ability to what you want to track in the WA, copy it, replace the spell ID with the one you want tracked

balmy compass
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Im sorry bro

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english pls 😛

storm rune
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1 sec, ill see if i can whip up a screenshot or two

balmy compass
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can you come on vc ill stream buddy

storm rune
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if you prefer

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though honestly a WA that doesnt track most of your abilities... doesn't sound like a great WA

young swan
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it seems like hes making it himself

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so

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seems like replicating crits

left perch
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thanks 6-7

balmy compass
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sometimes if we do not get more procs of MFE 3 stacks or SD 2 stacks..is it okay to spam execute with just 1 stack of each also to get bladestorm back quickly?

fading sky
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If alternative is not having bladestorm for a big pull aftrt

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Id try

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2 get 1 extra bladestorm in current pack id say no

balmy compass
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0k

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execute with 3 stacks of MFE and 2 stacks of SD must always go only when enraged right?

fading sky
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Ofc

hardy cargo
balmy compass
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cool

gaunt loom
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do people just not use crafted weapons if they’re doing high keys?

cobalt kernel
#

ascension isnt great for m+ assuming thats what you mean

misty bronze
#

Guys do we have any standard stats on fury like 30% haste and 60% mastery or like dat?

cedar junco
#

hi, should i use bladestorm on cd or wait for recklessness

steel matrix
#

Am I being dumb in aoe doing whirlwind > RB > RB > Ramp > Exe? I feel like that's very wrong

cedar junco
#

like everytime my bladestorm is off cd my recklessness is about 10~20 secs cd left

modest hollow
#

Only time you hold is when recklessness is 12 sec or less

cedar junco
remote bobcat
#

we just sim our character

#

generally mastery > haste > vers > crit but just please sim your character cause now in s3 we overcap mastery sooooo quickly

remote bobcat
remote bobcat
misty bronze
radiant plank
#

Dont sim stat weights

remote bobcat
#

just sim the gear you have rn via topgear and sim the great vault options before taking one

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you can also sim droptimizer from raid

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and dungeons

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just...yea.. let robot tell you whats good

steel matrix
remote bobcat
#

your main two priorities are having whirlwind stacks and staying enraged

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if bladestorm is on CD and you get 3x MFE on the target, you click execute within whirlwind stacks and enrage

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otherwise spam raging blow

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within whirlwind stacks and enrage

#

otherwise filler ig

#

your main aoe damage comes from using bladestorm as the set-up-Cooldown rather than the damage-Cooldown

steel matrix
gilded pawn
#

Time for the rotation helper

remote bobcat
#

Thats garbo

smoky vale
left perch
glacial path
#

probably a dumb question but is thunderous roar even worth taking as a talent? i feel its almost borderline useless but thats just me

misty bronze
#

i was thinking about it but,no alternative?

#

what u can take?

#

1% overall dmg xD

sullen dove
#

already got all the 2 pointer dmg nodes down there rly isn’t any other option

next canopy
#

❤️ 💪 Fury Ravager

#

Miss you fury boyzzzz

next canopy
remote bobcat
next canopy
#

❤️ 💪 Fury Spear

next canopy
#

Bring back the spearrrrr

#

Year of the spear

remote bobcat
#

Spear is turning into movement spell idk why they ever thought thats smart but alas

#

Type shiiii

next canopy
#

The only way I’m coming back to WoW is if we get to this again. Someone please ping me if it happens

oblique trail
#

hope you never start playing again then

warm crag
#

👎

modest condor
#

yeah that aint it bro

dense elbow
#

Complain about as you may, that video still makes me smile every time

remote bobcat
onyx linden
#

guys, we are fast

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and thats without enchants

coarse nest
chrome charm
#

is hand of justice good again as it was in season 1 cant droptimize sim it

modest condor
#

you can still gear compare or top gear it

trim hound
#

Ayyy Saladbar dead, on the 1 pull i died near the end deadge

#

but a kill is a kill

flat river
#

Poggers

modest condor
#

sure

iron portal
#

True parses

celest dock
#

Am i coping or do i need to log on nexus king? for my platform if the logger is on the other platform?

#

or am i washed?

junior gale
#

You need multiple loggers yes

sullen dove
#

fake news

junior gale
trim hound
#

idk im looking at a fresh singular log and it's showing 19 people did dmg to Titan

sullen dove
#

is it not unlikely a healer didnt hit one

trim hound
#

well ye ofc, saying it's showing all dps

misty bronze
#

guys any good guide how to sim? cuz all videos on youtube is old 🙁 new as fury

plush zephyr
#

If you ever have any questions on it you can @ me or just ask here

misty bronze
#

@plush zephyr I cant sim Astral Antenna cuz he say any another trinket will be better...

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I put 30% miss on antenna

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sometimes he said 700 ring is better than myth rings... i dont understand 🙁

storm rune
#

post a sim you ran

junior gale
storm rune
#

no that's your simc string, like the website link of the sim you ran

misty bronze
#

I put this in Control V

plush zephyr
#

Yeah like just share us the link that’s at the top of the raidbots screen after you sim

misty bronze
#

Ah got u 1min

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@plush zephyru see? he swap myth ring to hero ring :/

plush zephyr
misty bronze
#

missing chance? 😮

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yea i put 6 target for 1 min aoe dmg like in guide

#

@plush zephyrthx for help.waiting u

earnest canyon
misty bronze
earnest canyon
#

I have no clue what you are trying to do or what the issue is. I was just telling you what miss chance is.

misty bronze
#

Max in on my fury i did 10kk over

earnest canyon
meager gyro
#

NOW THAT TWW IS OVER, RANK IT AS AN EXPANSION OVERALL. FROM RAID TO M+ (nobody cares about pvp) GIVE IT A X/10 SCORE. SAY ONE EXPANSION IT'S BETTER THAN, AND ONE EXPANSION IT IS WORSE THAN.

earnest canyon
misty bronze
earnest canyon
#

and not always for fury

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you get into soft caps

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if you can just dumbly always stack mastery you dont need to sim, but you cant

misty bronze
#

oh so if raidbots tells me 717 is better,I have to use it?

earnest canyon
#

no? use what you want

misty bronze
#

Yea i was thinking more mastery = more dmg

earnest canyon
#

why

misty bronze
#

even if overcap

earnest canyon
#

i dont get why people really really do not get this at all, happens like everyday

misty bronze
#

enraged dmg

earnest canyon
#

right so ignore the sim and use the more mastery one, easy

misty bronze
#

bro i read,i understand what i read,i dont know like caps and etc why u insult?

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jeez

earnest canyon
#

what have I said that is insulting? I havent insulted you at all

#

Im answering your questions, or trying to

earnest canyon
# misty bronze jeez

the other thing is, you are simming them uncapped. Cap the mythic ring at 730 vs the 717 and then resim, because its trivial to max gear now. You have only 3 ilevels difference between them.

cobalt relic
#

all gg

earnest canyon
#

pg

feral ivy
#

anyone know if we all go 1 color in NP court mythic will we die?

feral ivy
keen kindle
earnest canyon
keen kindle
#

Ew

sudden mango
#

These are my stats now, unbuffed

#

wanna craft a 727 neck... haste & mastery are already at -10% penalty so which stat should i shift towards?

sour frigate
wet wedge
sudden mango
#

meaning?

bitter palm
high sedge
#

do a droptimizer with crafted and sim haste mast or haste vers or mast vers

high sedge
sudden mango
#

Thx all okayge

sour frigate
burnt stone
#

"Hello brothers, this isn't related to Midnight Alpha, but I became curious about something in SimC and wanted to ask a question. In the current TWW Season 3 APL, the condition buff.ashen_juggernaut.remains <= gcd has the highest priority. And in a similar context, there is also rampage, if=buff.enrage.remains < gcd.

But these two conditions have an important difference. The Ashen Juggernaut (AJ) buff stacks must be maintained. On the other hand, for example, if your GCD ends and your Enrage buff has about 0.2 seconds left, then using Raging Blow (RB) in that moment is the optimal play. Even if the Enrage buff expires after casting RB, it’s not a problem—you can simply cast Rampage afterward to re-apply Enrage.

However, AJ doesn’t work like this. If you play it this way, the AJ stacks would drop. While implementing this logic in WA, this difference felt strange to me. Does SimC have any built-in compensation or special handling for this?

red flax
#

AJ has higher prio in the APL thus it would cast execute

high sedge
#

there is already a WA for this

red flax
#

you have to read the APL from top to bottom. Each GCD simc goes through the lines and checks which line is fulfilled first

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then it does this action

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since keeping up AJ is basically the highest as slayer - way before enrage uptime - it would do execute before

silk wharf
#

I think yall are misinterpreting what he's saying. He's saying that if you fire execute to refresh jugg after a certain time threshold the client won't update fast enough to refresh the stack and it will fall off before it refreshes.

red flax
#

and since the condition is buff uptime <= the GCD

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it would do it before it can run out

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as i say above, if possible the robot will refresh the buff before it can even drop. As long as other higher prio actions arent there

silk wharf
#

Yes, while unlikely, perhaps even effectively impossible (with optimal play), that isn't what I believe he is asking.
Your answer does relay this information, but not directly.

red flax
#

The robot will press execute before the situation they describe happens. AJ uptime is like the first line in the slayer prio and everything before is off gcd it seems

#

If the robot cant press execute, AJ would drop

gilded pawn
#

Man just install hekili

#

Only got a couple more weeks left anyways

scarlet dock
#

is ethernal energy orb coming from renown worth buying?

warm crag
#

is aj extension really delayed from pressing execute? ive never paid attention to it

warm crag
gaunt loom
high sedge
#

everythang 🥀

earnest canyon
plush zephyr
#

I ain’t taking the time to learn any classes when they’re all changing soon lmao

high sedge
#

just open any log from top players of the class you want to learn

#

boom you are good to go

plush zephyr
#

took me wayyyy to long to perfect frosts aoe shit

earnest canyon
scarlet dock
#

is there any consumables beside
[Crystallized Augment Rune]
that give primary stat?

solid oracle
#

any tldr of fury on midnight?

scarlet dock
#

i have seen something purple in raid people used gaved 733 strengh but i dont know where to buy it

solid oracle
#

maybe augment rune from demon hunters

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its hearty augment rune

scarlet dock
#

let me check the name please

solid oracle
#

sec, finding it

ornate gust
solid oracle
#

ooh it was normal

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i thought we talking about mythic

ornate gust
#

nah.. that one heroic

#

my mythic logs are unlisted medge

scarlet dock
#

this is the name :
[Soulgorged Augment Rune]

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how can i buy this

solid oracle
#

ye

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you get it weekly from quest

ornate gust
solid oracle
#

ye, from demon hunters

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they can drop

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and its a quest weekly

ornate gust
#

every week?

solid oracle
#

i tihnk

#

ye

scarlet dock
#

oh so its not parchasable?

ornate gust
#

interesting .. never know that

solid oracle
#

nope, it is not sadly

#

you get it from the raid renown

scarlet dock
#

what about ethernal energy comes from renown 18 , is it worth the effort and gold ? damage diffrence?

solid oracle
#

you mean the augment rune?

#

for 100k ?

scarlet dock
#

y

solid oracle
#

i mean, its nice to have it, but 700 main stat is not that deep tbh

#

if you have enough gold, go for it

#

if you dont, you are not missing a big portion of dmg anyways

#

i had to do it cuz of my guild, but its nice to have

#

have it on all my warriors

scarlet dock
#

ok one last question , in packs sometime i use WW > Rampage > 3 Raging blow somehow , is there any specific thing to do to allways make it 3 raiging blow so i can press more ? 😄

solid oracle
#

nah really, cuz of gcd and your time in enrage, you can maybe press few more in bloodlust

#

maybe 4 if you have enough haste, but i think you ran out of enrage on 4th raging blow

scarlet dock
#

How much ur dps overall is in dangs?

solid oracle
#

not really playing m+, i do raiding 96% of time , but on +12 i have something like this

#

but your dmg really depends on your tank and pulls overall

scarlet dock
#

I,m boosting keys so they do like giga pulls

#

but damn it i just cant dps like you guys 😄

solid oracle
#

hahahaha this sums it up

scarlet dock
#

this is my log?

solid oracle
#

mine, just checked it when we talked about the raging blows

#

if you want, i can send you the log, but idk if it will help you really

#

i dont really think in m+ anyways, just zug zug

scarlet dock
#

same , i had issue of pressing 3 level in ww and than refresh it and i was working on this to fix and i made progress my dps jumped from 7.5 to 8.5 overall but its still not enough for me 😄

#

one question : is the right thing is :
WW - Rampage , 3X Raging Blow or
WW - 3X Raging blow , rampage
i ask this bcs its kinda takes time to use ww while on enrage

coarse nest
sullen dove
#

ong useless asf

burnt stone
warm crag
#

i dont know the exact timeframe but you can press rb while enraged and the rts would hit unenraged damage

burnt stone
#

So, in summary, even if you cast RB while you have the Enrage buff, if you don't have the Enrage buff when RtS activates, RtS will activate without the Enrage buff?

So, if you're in a MT target battle and the remaining Enrage buff time is running low, is it better to cast Ramp rather than RB?

modest condor
#

any damage you do while enrage is not up will not be enraged

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it doesnt matter when you press the button, if enrage falls off before the damage happens it will not do enraged damage

burnt stone
#

Usually, after casting Ramp, the skill is cast 4 times with the Enrage buff effect, so I didn't think about RtS.

modest condor
burnt stone
#

I need to add Enrage<=gcd*2 to mt RAMP WA

shrewd furnace
#

Does astral antenna work better in m+ or cursed idol stone? I have either one option to choose from dinar. The other one I already picked eradicating aranacore

warm crag
#

@wild mural i got it done

#

turns out that if you equip conq gear and get conq weapons you start hitting like a fucking truck

warm crag
#

im not a minigamer so get a second opinion on this but i see most ppl using some combo between antenna idol and sacbrood

wild mural
#

I can't do it

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I'm giving up

warm crag
#

its trivial

#

legit

burnt stone
#

I don't prefer Antena in M+ Trinkets selection, it seems to be activated often when the battle is almost over lol

remote bobcat
#

Hi cowfarmers i love you man

#

My goat

burnt stone
#

I'm really grateful that you like me, but honestly, I don't really know why you like me.peepo

sullen dove
#

🐮 🧑‍🌾 👑 🐐 🧎‍♂️

burnt stone
#

As a bonus, from target 8 onwards, the DPS of both APLs becomes similar.

cedar junco
#

is AM or RA better for ST slayer, getting mixed ans

coarse nest
#

Wait actually?

#

We’ve been AM this whole tier and last without question

young swan
cedar junco
#

ah ok, im new to fury warrior so didnt know anything, tyty

coarse nest
#

No worries, Glhf!

ember apex
#

there is real pain felt when RA is meta, APM plummets and u feel like a cooldown slave

storm rune
#

Nah RA is the tatas when adds die in 5 seconds

#

Couple juicy hits and no worries about CDs not syncing

ember apex
#

its not, its always ~10% lower in RA meta tiers

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like if prev tier APM under AM was 66, then next RA tier is 60

storm rune
#

cant say i see the logic as to why that would be

#

unless you're accounting for how often people would lock out their gcds with RA and not have enough rage to keep pressing buttons

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because jfc did that ever happen a lot in log reviews

ember apex
#

last time it was meta - there would be more reck procs under AM and u could have near 100% uptime of reck under AM so u would rampage more b/c u would rage cap more. so u had more non-empty/ww globals

storm rune
#

okay so yeah, people not pooling rage

#

definitely was an issue, but that a skill issue

ember apex
#

the APM was lower in the simulcraft as well

#

what was the last tier RA was meta, ill go pull it rn

storm rune
#

S1 wasn't it?

ember apex
#

i think amirdrassil?

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s2 DF was AM i know that for a fact

storm rune
#

amirdrassil for sure

ember apex
#

ok sec

storm rune
#

yeah RA was meta in S1 TWW

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and beloved OF

#

Also did I mess up my macros or did they remove squeak from logged casts? Fortitude of Niuzao is the only toy I'm seeing anymore

young swan
ember apex
#

s1 nerubar is missing fury sims from simulationcraft website

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here is this season to compare tho

#

TWW1_Raid.html doesnt have fury sims for whatever reason

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ill check their gh

#

ok how about this

storm rune
#

checking my logs on a tank n spank fight it was 71 for a 99 parse

#

kyvezza to be exact

ember apex
#

is comparing Fractilus tank and spank vs Sikran fair?

storm rune
#

I'd say so

ember apex
#

kyveza had downtime more than sikran

#

sikran u could leap out for nova and charge back in

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i think top logs wont get picked for dropping the thing in the back

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like u need good rng on that boss to get a top log same w/ fract

#

ok so here is Sikran mythic rank 1 parse no PI

#

casts is diff than APM in context of simc but this works for 1:1 comparison b/c im gonna be comapring casts to casts

storm rune
#

just as long as you verify their casts yeah

young swan
#

people have 7k less haste

storm rune
#

squeak and mop toys will inflate apm

young swan
#

this apm diff is literally a haste diff

ember apex
#

ok well u cant compare tier to tier like this

young swan
#

u literally can

#

any apm difference is legit a haste diff

ember apex
#

ok, i believe u - show me

young swan
#

were u ever not pressing a button in s1

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cause that is the only way apm decreases for melee specs

#

assuming 100% uptime

#

this is a certified carlo moment

storm rune
#

totally not using a log from before the rampage changes

young swan
#

iahn's haste from sikran r1

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farover haste from fractilus r1 (no pi)

ember apex
#

so later in expac basically u have more haste

young swan
#

shocker!

ember apex
#

thats why its not fair to compare

#

so like

young swan
#

no it actively proves my point, because the apm increase is so negligible that it can only be haste increase

ember apex
#

T30 - Aberrus - where u have less haste but are AM
vs
T31 - Amirdrassil - where u have more haste but are RA

should be that t31 has more apm b/c its haste correlated not this talent?

young swan
#

comparing to amirdrassil, when we played with fucking storm of swords

#

that talent that made you miss globals if you didnt play perfectly

#

yeah sure man

#

ur right

#

totally has to do with RA tho

#

compare to vault maybe

ember apex
#

what does storm of swords have to do w/ it

young swan
#

it made our filler have a cooldown

#

hello?

ember apex
#

oh i get it - so if u played perfectly - like in a sim then ur APM would be higher in t31?

#

T30 Aberrus APM - 75.3 APM per sim

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T31 Amirdrassil APM - 70.1 APM per sim

young swan
#

so haste inflation

#

good job

#

u really got to the bottom of that

ember apex
#

ok so if every time we play RA we have lower APM - for whatever reason - then why is it bad to point that out

young swan
#

storm of swords

#

im pretty sure even the robot missed globals eventually

ember apex
#

to me - it almost doesnt matter what the reason is - if im always losing APM when i spec into RA i dont want to play RA

#

also it feels more rewarding to have CDR from having good uptime w/ AM

#

it also feels like ur a slave to ur CDs

#

where as AM is consistent

young swan
#

consistently a slave to your cd;s

ember apex
#

yeah basiaclly like u do significantly less dmg when not in ur cd window

young swan
#

u know the old versions of RA that ur complaining about werent reliant on a cooldown window right

#

like we know that

#

and the version that is "reliant" on a cd window is like actual turbo dogshit and we've never played it

storm rune
modest condor
#

carlo and making complete bonkers claims name a more iconic duo

warm crag
young swan
#

phd in discord typing

warm crag
young swan
#

yes good yob sponge man

warm crag
young swan
#

i miss when ploppy used to tell people to drink bleach when they said dumb stuff....

#

cant do that anymore..

left perch
warm crag
#

what main menu are they idling

meager gyro
#

Is there a heroic blackrock depths again?

#

Wasn’t there a good trinket last time around

sullen dove
#

where in either ra or am's description does it say "your gcd is lesser or greater than if you didnt have this"

#

unless ur counting the extra 2 off gcd reck's every 90s as more casts as am then sure u got that

#

s1 tww RA also had like nothin to do with cds either

#

odyns was just really good on aoe but you did crushing blows/blood baths the entire time regardless of your cds or not

#

only in amirdrassil when cooldowns directly translated to 1000% increase dmg bb's did we actually have "burst cooldowns"

#

and literally only in amirdrassil was there a potential tangible way to lose globals otherwise apm is completely unaffected by these talents one way or the other

#

but we gotta stop making up stuff like we "feel" an apm difference of 5 when mfs swap between powerful and frenzied enrage all they want and it barely affecting dps

flat river
#

sup guys

celest halo
#

How do folks tend to toss in cursed idol into an aoe opener?

compact knot
#

even with the by far better gear in amirdrassil

#

or i should say, the haste number didnt go up much but our rotation had empty gcds

#

i also dont think a high apm rotation is a good thing

olive wraith
#

Attributing lower apm to RA is also just wrong

shrewd furnace
#

Is it okay to have two sets of trinkets 1 for raid and 1 for m+? Like for raid - arana core and antenna, for m+ cursed stone idol and sacbrood? Or its just over kill 😛

pearl sequoia
#

No thats valid

modest condor
#

the police will come to arrest you if you try to do that

shrewd furnace
#

Haha

#

No I wanna ask will it be too much game changing for these two modes

#

The set trinkets which I mentioned

pearl sequoia
#

the only game changing thing would be just having an on use trinket my dood

shrewd furnace
#

Hmm on use trinket out of those 4 is just cursed stone idol right?

ember apex
#

ok im back

pearl sequoia
#

yup

#

and antena is mostly passive, so.. not much going on in the trinket department this season

#

just use the best trinket set for the situation

ember apex
#

u ever play PoE w/ headhunter and u get a soul eater buff, that sht is fun

#

i love being hasted to the high heavens

compact knot
#

also amirdrassil was just a more fun rotation even though it was slower

ember apex
#

i disagree - but these are opinions

#

i think doing umm mythic sark and fitting in an extra reck use in p1

#

like doing that was fun

#

waiting to slam odyns fury for 2 goliaths in amirdrassil on fyrak not fun

#

not goliaths i dont remember those big elemental guy names

compact knot
unborn delta
#

we're in danger

pearl sequoia
#

that guys as big as stormwind holy moly!

storm rune
#

amirdrassil was pretty peak, rocking a natty 30% vers made me feel invincible

#

on top of a rotation that had you BB/BT every couple GCDs

pure crow
#

how did u even play reckless abandon

#

tried it out and it felt weird cause i end up rampaging most of the time anyway

young swan
#

you dont

compact knot
#

my DK BOGUHT THE HEROIC SH BOOTS WITH THE TOKENS

sullen dove
#

w

fluid agate
#

can you avoid the javelin in eco dome as a fury warrior or nah?

sudden tusk
#

no

cobalt relic
#

all gg

earnest canyon
#

bg

south kayak
#

gg

wild mural
#

Gg

earnest canyon
#

Bf 🤢

plush zephyr
flat river
junior crag
compact knot
#

I really don't know why they let you buy hero items and not refund it

junior crag
#

They do but if you equip/upgrade its not refundable anymore 🙁

#

And the first thing i did was to max it

#

😂

compact knot
#

I didnt equip or upgrade it

#

Wasn't refundable

junior crag
#

What

compact knot
#

Lol

junior crag
#

Somethings wrong then

compact knot
#

I noticed it was lower ilvl than the boots I already had equipped and knew I fucked ip

#

Up

#

But I didn't upgrade or put them on, sold them to the same vendor like right after buying them

junior crag
#

And u got no coins back?

compact knot
#

Nope

junior crag
#

Wierd af i did that mutiple times

compact knot
#

Sold for gold

junior crag
#

Did you wait for hours before selling them back?

#

Right after..

#

Wow

#

Wierd

fast zodiac
#

how do i get more reap of storm procs? its my 5th dmg spell ,and when i check others logs its first

winter shoal
#

Open each pack with bladestorm so that you have overwhelm applied as soon as possible

#

And then you basically just spam the fuck out of rb

#

Aoe prio is, broadly speaking, ww > enrage > 3mfe exe > rb > other exe conditions > ramp > bt

fast zodiac
#

so rb has prio in aoe

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how i get enrage

winter shoal
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It'll also depend a bit on the dungeon/route, it's common to see RB slightly ahead of reap in dungeons with smaller pulls

winter shoal
fast zodiac
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3mfe exe whats this lol

winter shoal
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Just distinguishing between "rampage because enrage is going to expire" vs "rampage for its own damage"

fast zodiac
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oh exe

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got it , wa follow

winter shoal
fast zodiac
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oh ok i think i get it no

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now

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was focusing more on rampage and exe wa , and less pammed rb

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kk got it ty

modest hollow
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When will the m+ season 3 wrap up?

modest condor
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either when prepatch happens or when the next expansion launches

undone flower
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Prepatch

modest hollow
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So in other words, the push is over?

undone flower
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You have a prepatch season

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If you chase 0.1% title it never stops

sullen dove
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yea i dont think theres a title for that

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never has been

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s4 titles for fated/awakened seasons but prepatch still happened in the middle of that

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might be new io bracket or something if you just want to flex every category of m+ for some reason

undone flower
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I giga pushed in SL prepatch because classes were peak wow gameplay

sullen dove
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yea well going from mickey mouse 6 talent choices to like 60 is p cool

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arms condemn mmyesss

undone flower
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SL classes without covenant