fury

[agile field]

yeah but u do the dmg holding collectively, orchestrated by the raidleader. just like many many things

[remote bobcat]

"orchestrated" is crazy

you have a timer

[agile field]

its like when u need to focus target the boss when u actually wanna instead aoe all those adds to the side cause thats way more blasting and dmg, no?

[remote bobcat]

boss dead before the timer?

call to hold

or rather

instead of boss dead it should be damage threshold met

[fossil grove]

the issue with having to hold dps is it makes your gameplay up until that point less relevant. the difficult part of a boss fight is doing as much dps as possible while playing mechanics well. take out the dps part, and suddenly the game is much easier and you're rewarded less for playing well, which is frustrating..

[remote bobcat]

No that is also not comparable

that's more akin to holding cds

you still get to play

you get to make a decision what to target

holding damage is just going afk

its not a display of skill

and then imagine you fight a boss for 200+ pulls where you hold damage for the last ~60 of them for example

during prog

yeaaa love that

KEKW

[fossil grove]

dimmy wouldve been such a sick fight without dps stops. ts ruined it completely for me..

[agile field]

its similar to a council boss where u are forced to kill them at the same time. u will have to redirect your dmg, "lose" out on aoe dps u could have otherwise had

[remote bobcat]

#fury message

[zealous pier]

You’re shifting the goal post constantly.

[remote bobcat]

once again not even close to the same

not having perfect uptime on as many targets as possible is not the same as having to go afk.

[agile field]

how long is the dps stop at dimmy?

[remote bobcat]

depends on group and when you first killed

[agile field]

ive just been asked to stop dps or redirect dps so many times i dont rly see it as a big deal

[fossil grove]

fair points, I still think the fight was sick 🙂

[remote bobcat]

anywhere from 15 sec to some guilds having multiple dmg stops 15sec each

[agile field]

yeah thats fairly long

[remote bobcat]

My guild actually said nah fuck the dmg stop we wanna have fun instead so we only ever held for a max of 7~ish seconds

we had multiple p3 wipes as a result

l0l

1% into 0.3% into 0.1%

KEKW

[fossil grove]

I dont think youre understanding the issue. if you have a 15 second full dps stop at the end of a phase, that effectively makes any dps min-maxxing irrelevant. so it becomes irrelevant how well you're playing. on dimmy specifically, this happened at the end of every phase except the last one

even if it's shorter than 15 seconds, the principle still applies

[agile field]

i cant recall the bossfight but im just thinking the scenario where there's an add and it does some cast u need so u cant kill it until the casts u need are through enough times. this could often require u to redirect dps or stop dps on the add altogether. imo thats part of the game and part of skill as a coordinated group. so i still think holding dps is ok in general, dimmy specific idk

[remote bobcat]

yea everytime the sentence "damage doesnt matter" comes up, it's immediately dogshit

[fossil grove]

again, redirecting damage and stopping damage are 2 very different things. you can play around having to redirect damage, you cannot play around having to do no damage

[remote bobcat]

reminds me of stormwall blockade mythic where one boat had to go afk when other boat had a dead person or smth causing their dmg to be lower

shit was ass

complete doodoo

[agile field]

well dmg often doesnt matter, esp now for example so much gear so many extra buffs u meet all dps checks anyway so u could argue that it already doesnt matter if u minmax your dps perfectly

[remote bobcat]

current gear diminishes the need to hold dps but it doesn't remove it

there are so many benefits to holding damage that it ends up being a soft requirement anyway

unless you do what my guild did

where we accepted the handicap

[fossil grove]

fight is still easier the more dps you do. shorter fight means less time for people to make mistakes

so how well you're playing is relevant

[remote bobcat]

how well you're playing offensively is irrelevant*

dps optimizations become irrelevant

being good at your class becomes irrelevant

[fossil grove]

yeah but my point is, if you dont have to optimize dps, how are you ever fucking anything else up

thats the whole game

[remote bobcat]

i mean there are plenty of hectic knowledge checks that need to get practiced

but yea ur not wrong

[agile field]

dps optimisation is mostly relevant for logs only tho, no? unless u progress fairly fast u get geared so much u meet the dps checks where earlier a progress guild was squeezing every single member for another chunk of dps

[remote bobcat]

Dps optimization kills bosses. We are, once again, talking about prog. Not logs.

[fossil grove]

I will repeat: if you do more dps, the fight length is shorter, and thus there is less time for people to make mistakes

[agile field]

well ure mostly talking aobut adjusting the dps upwards only tho

[remote bobcat]

the main concern is the existence of a last phase with a severe dps check

Such as dimmy

p3

dimmy has a soft enrage where it's simply incredibly difficult to play which is immediately followed by a true enrage that oneshots everyone

dont have damage?

oh well time to hold in p1 and p2

cluegi~1

[agile field]

u know at some point blizz made sure the hard encounters were abouit 10 minutes long. they didnt do that cause its hard to dps or to do mechanics, but because its hard to focus 10 minutes at a time, so the real skill check for the player was whether he could be focussed for that amount of time

[remote bobcat]

hm yea no thats not it

[agile field]

im just saying there's a lot of variety in how u can add depth and difficulty

[remote bobcat]

okay but who cares about that?

holding dps is not depth

and its not difficulty

[warm crag]

dimensius p3 turns from a fight where everything is slowly telegraphed and predictable to shit hitting the fan after devour 2, the amount you have to play after devour 2 is exclusively decided by dps optimization

[remote bobcat]

its a tuning issue only

[agile field]

imo it can be

[remote bobcat]

You have yet to name a single example or think of a single example

[warm crag]

it is most certainly depth and a very big one at that

its just not one anyone enjoys

[remote bobcat]

well positive gameplay depth was implied here spongie

[agile field]

i made several examples. anything where the greater goal conflicts with your personal goal basically

[remote bobcat]

you did not make a single example of holding damage

[velvet magnet]

bunch of nerds

[warm crag]

cant mind read your intent over text

[remote bobcat]

you made examples of switching targets

you made examples of holding cds

not ever holding damage

[warm crag]

nerd off

[remote bobcat]

thats alright hence my clarification

you just claimed you think its okay to hold damage sometimes for the sake of prog when you arent the one having to do that

its easy to claim that

for the sake of argument

i dont know a single person that's okay with holding damage while having to prog a fight where they have to hold damage

and i interact with a shitton of raiders

[agile field]

i cant recall but im jsut saying its not unheard of that a raidleader told people to slow down and then stop altogether for a bit in order to achieve something for the sake of beating the encounter. some people dont like it, slowing or holding dps usually feels bad but removing it then makes u ask why have literally anything in the game that reduces your ability to dps, or adjusting all mechanics so that they never ever interfere with u blasting

[remote bobcat]

Once again. Limiting dps output for the sake of strategy is fine. Reducing it to zero is not.

It's not fun.

It's not skillful.

[agile field]

yeah so the challenge moves from pressing your buttons rly hard in isolation to getting control over a group or as a group on themselves to do somethign they dont wanna do. its like in poker when u play the person as opposed to playing the game

except truthfuly its all part of the game

[remote bobcat]

mate

no

What are you saying

[agile field]

maybe ive not expressed myself well enough

either way

[remote bobcat]

you're effectively saying that the boss is no longer about gameplay and you say that's good?

my god

thats not good

Listen mate

There are things in the game that exist that we have to overcome

there are frictions that feel good

to overcome

holding damage is NEVER that

not for anyone

[agile field]

i dont exactly liek holding dmg, but im not allergic to it

[remote bobcat]

no one is allergic to it

[agile field]

i accept it as part of the game sometimes

[remote bobcat]

thats why we do it

All we do is point it out as something bad

Seems you're confusing criticism with whining again

[wild mural]

Alright chat

how does one play dimmy as fury

[remote bobcat]

whatsup druid player

[agile field]

nim not accusing u of whining, i see your point, im just saying i dont agree

[wild mural]

we're being unbenched

[remote bobcat]

https://warcraftrecorder.com/link/7b50a3e8-9f9b-4d95-9b76-88c1f1e32585

not a very clean kill

good showcase

[agile field]

"we are so back"

[coarse nest]

Hold dps is bad

Please delete hold dps

[remote bobcat]

brew

do u like goth girls

[agile field]

who doesnt

[coarse nest]

Well duhhh

[remote bobcat]

what if i told you i won at life

[plush zephyr]

I married one

[remote bobcat]

[plush zephyr]

Now she has like

Grandma energy

[wild mural]

nah, we'd actually be back if I were playing arms

[plush zephyr]

Completely different

[coarse nest]

I also married one

Lmao

[remote bobcat]

thats kinda funny

[agile field]

haha fair. im not a big arms fan atm tho i gotta say, i generally like arms better for the fantasy and whatnot but current iteration idk just doesnt tickle my bone

[wild mural]

imma have to let this buffer for a bit

[remote bobcat]

opening it in browser insta loads it

its just fucky wucky as discord embed

[wild mural]

yeah i opened it in opera

[remote bobcat]

fair enuff

[wild mural]

i blame my mac being shite

[plush zephyr]

Opera + Mac = wtf

[remote bobcat]

i also have giga flight angles

[wild mural]

I use it cause it has an inbuilt vpn and im bri'ish bruv

[remote bobcat]

for fast flight

big recommend

(this actively griefs ur raid btw)

KEKW

[wild mural]

and ion wanna pay for a vpn

[coarse nest]

Dimi actually pretty chill boss

[wild mural]

perfect for me then

[plush zephyr]

“built in vpn browser that is Chinese backed”

Lmfao

What

[wild mural]

oh well

i have no info worth seeing

stealing*

and they'd be lucky to see my butt

[plush zephyr]

I just don’t want people knowing where my Pokemon cards are

Have my ssn and shit idc

[wild mural]

anything that actually has data worth stealing i do on my pc

on chrome

my mac is basically just for netflix in bed

[remote bobcat]

and warcraftrecorder

now

[wild mural]

yup

what is this

[agile field]

shadow fury, duh

[coarse nest]

Screams is thick

Hollyy

[wild mural]

hooooollyyyy

[remote bobcat]

trinket macro if i ever have a trinket

[wild mural]

ah I see

[remote bobcat]

shadow fury has a diff icon, this is shadow crash icon

[wild mural]

just st build on dimmy i assume

[agile field]

i fked up

[coarse nest]

Guy didn’t press his execute in this imagine

[remote bobcat]

yea i play multiple warriors with diff gear so i have this macro to keep my bars uniform

[coarse nest]

Damn

Tragic

[wild mural]

ah i gotchu

i think id annoy you then cause i use elvui on my druid and base ui on warr

[remote bobcat]

what the fuck

[coarse nest]

[remote bobcat]

well i use default UI

with flavor

[wild mural]

warr

druid

[remote bobcat]

ah yes actionbars AND weakaura package man i sure dont see any problem of redundancy here

[wild mural]

idk how to turn em off on edit mode

[remote bobcat]

FacePalm

[wild mural]

i dont know man

i just press buttons

[remote bobcat]

i dont use a weakaura package

i made my ui myself

[wild mural]

im just gonna disable all my addons

[warm crag]

literally just flexing that you got soleah

[remote bobcat]

i have 2x soleah myth in my inventory

[wild mural]

i would never

[remote bobcat]

cluegi~1

[iron portal]

Witch leech

The best stat

[wild mural]

I dont have enough valorstones to upgrade it I think

im using mythic voidcore/emp crystal atm

[warm crag]

my only valorstone income is logging into raid and logging out

[remote bobcat]

amen

[wild mural]

i gotta farm a load of keys before monday on warr

[warm crag]

no you dont

[remote bobcat]

you want to

[wild mural]

well im in on dimmy now

and my rl will shout at me if i dont

[remote bobcat]

whats he gonna do, not prog?

KEKWait

[wild mural]

he'll beat me

and i may enjoy it a lil

but not a lot

[remote bobcat]

absolute_cinema

[coarse nest]

[wild mural]

I need 120 crests for my gloves and trink, then probably another 180 for 2 more crafted items

only 15 20s

[remote bobcat]

12s

[wild mural]

that

[remote bobcat]

i pray that you have someone to play with

[wild mural]

i forgor how the keys work

[remote bobcat]

doing that solo is big rip

[wild mural]

I did like 40 keys in the last 2 weeks solo

it was a very big rip

[plush zephyr]

gotta find you a gamer group bud

[wild mural]

its chill tbh

couple keys a night

motivated to do it cause im back in for prog

[wild mural]

do you have your dps cds in MRT?

[remote bobcat]

timelinereminder

liquid addon

[wild mural]

ahh

[remote bobcat]

you can also do it in MRT

being honest with you i just copied from lorrgs.io

and then fine tuned a tiny bit

[wild mural]

yeah I figured

[remote bobcat]

depending on dps holding

[wild mural]

why hold on dimmy?

[remote bobcat]

you hold for ele shamans and shit right

[agile field]

BOY DO I GOT A STORY FOR YOU ABOUT HOLDING

[wild mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1QV6ow2NLQ

[remote bobcat]

you hold for other classes

and as a fury warr

you have to adjust

since we have flexible cds

[wild mural]

I DON'T WANT TO STOP DAMAGE

[remote bobcat]

you have to

not ur choice cuh

[wild mural]

If my raid leader tells me to hold damage im gonna send him that video

cause im an alpha

[remote bobcat]

oh man pilav

back when he was more funny

[wild mural]

okay so we stop damage for other classes

presumably so everyone has the dps cds on the damage amp?

i have no idea when actually you stop

[remote bobcat]

yes

[wild mural]

that was a total guess

makes sense i suppose

still dumb

[remote bobcat]

you hold in p1 to have 90sec cds for p2

cuz 2min and 3min specs have to either hold hold

for p2.2

or

they hold for p3

and when they do send

then you hold in p2.2

for p3

as a fury you're just a bitch having to turn around not dealing damage

[wild mural]

yeah i suppose it makes sense to stick it in MRT then cause otherwise Id forget to hold and just send it

[remote bobcat]

yea

you can also add a text that says "dont use cds, idiot"

[plush zephyr]

"as a fury you're just a bitch" - Kronzo57

[remote bobcat]

or smth like that

[remote bobcat]

Amen

[wild mural]

i honestly believe Smolderon was like the peak of fury warrior gameplay

in df s3

[remote bobcat]

" "as a fury you're just a bitch" - Kronzo57 " - Nozz57

s1 nerubar palace fury was sick actually

but thats more due to perfect timings

[wild mural]

s1 arms was peak

DF S3 fury was pretty goated

[remote bobcat]

huh

s1 arms used sks

not peak

nono

[wild mural]

i liked it

it was fun

[remote bobcat]

@junior gale

[wild mural]

I had way more fun on fury than arms in S1

arms than fury

i mean

[junior gale]

Die SKS Die

[plush zephyr]

agreed

[coarse nest]

Arms owns

[plush zephyr]

Arms owns

[remote bobcat]

[feral ivy]

did they say how many dinars we are getting this season just 3?

[wild mural]

im gonna go arms on dimmy

[remote bobcat]

chatting

might aswell not get crests at that point

since ur not dealing damage anyway

[wild mural]

peak damage breakdown

[remote bobcat]

Honestly, arms would own on dimmy if dimmy p3 wasnt from 100% boss hp

[wild mural]

ya

[remote bobcat]

i rly enjoyed s2 arms in pure ST

except for juggernaut

fuck jugg

[wild mural]

i barely got aotc in s2

i got 3k on my rdruid

[plush zephyr]

trash ball rolling

peak content

[wild mural]

and stopped basically

didn't do the raid at all

[remote bobcat]

https://warcraftrecorder.com/link/a60b1edf-39ec-49f2-8122-52bed57ab784

YERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[wild mural]

well in reality i did 4 bosses on normal on my warr

and that's it

[remote bobcat]

yea my condolences

s2 arms was

opportunist ?

yes?

click overpower

Over everything

idk about now

too much fury

[wild mural]

Idk i've not played it this season

which kinda makes me sad

cause i usually enjoy it over fury

getting back into playin warr again is killing my wrists, arthritis is a bitch

[remote bobcat]

opportunist no longer broken

s2 set piece was too good

[agile field]

i played a bit of private server wow some classic-esque stuff and got used to mortal strike being like this big hit that u get to press and now when i play arms on retail and u press ms and u dont "feel" anything and then it resets its own cooldown so u press it again and again it just became meaningless to me

[remote bobcat]

well yea because we no longer play classic wow

classic bloodthrist was also giga

current BT is useless

[agile field]

yeah was so meaningful to press those back then cause u only got to press them rarely compared to now and they hit big

now its just all spam

which is why i like fury more cause its exactly that lots of small spammy hitting kinda buttons

for arms the spammy-ness feels wrong

[remote bobcat]

arms in exe phase still has giga mortal strike tbf

2x overpower 2x execute into mortal strike crit

cooming

[agile field]

that has a nice buildup true

[wild mural]

wait ur meant to press stormbolt durin bs

?

[remote bobcat]

yea

well no

but yea

[agile field]

yeah for that 0..00001% dmg increase

[remote bobcat]

its free 10k damage or w/e

[wild mural]

oh

i cba then

[remote bobcat]

yea i dont either

[agile field]

but but but the dps optimisation..!

[wild mural]

10k damage every 30 seconds... on idk 9min fight like dimmy that's what 180k damage

so worth

[remote bobcat]

shrugeg

[agile field]

difference between a 99 parse and a 99 parse that is!

[wild mural]

+2 white swings 🥀

im just tryna figure out what i gotta track to optimise my damage

but idk

it doesn't seem like much

like im gonna just get the WA to tell me when to execute

[remote bobcat]

for arms or fury

[wild mural]

fury

i wont have a guild no more if i try to play arms

[remote bobcat]

enrage, whirlwind stacks, execute sd conditions weakaura from #dps-faq

[wild mural]

yea

[remote bobcat]

optional: ashen juggernaut, marked for execution

[wild mural]

thats what i thought

[remote bobcat]

you dont need to track reck/ava

you dont need to track BT crit%

[wild mural]

yeah

[remote bobcat]

you dont need to crit SS

[wild mural]

ashen juggernaut seems pointless to track cause either you have it or you dont

[remote bobcat]

track* SS

i meant

[wild mural]

yuh

[remote bobcat]

meh idk I spam execute button when AJ is bout to run out and i dont have SD proc

on the offchance that i get exe that moment

and i get rewarded more often than i want to admit

[wild mural]

high roller

[remote bobcat]

it's not highrolling when it consistently occurs

[wild mural]

hmmm

fury seems simpler than I was imagining when i think about it like this

like obvs its simple but

my brain sometimes doesn't get around stuff proper

[remote bobcat]

you can dumb it down to: Exe weakaura > get enraged with rampage > raging blow > rest of shit

and u'll be fine

[wild mural]

yuh

[trim hound]

it's especially simple this season imho. extra simple with Thunderous Roar = filler, bloodthirst = filler, odyns fury = dont take. Basically just blasting 3 buttons 😄

[wild mural]

yarp

anyway cheers for the help lads im gonna go sleepge now

dream of highrolling reap the storm

[remote bobcat]

cheerio

[cobalt relic]

gg

[remote bobcat]

have fun not raiding anymore this week

[sudden trellis]

is going from a 727 crafted OH to a mythic wep that huge? my drop says grab a wep with crit vers 730 is like 40k dps. just not sure if its worth using a dinar on. or i buy the heroic screams.. but i have scarbrood and sack of terror . Sorry to ask again just torn on what to spend it on.

[remote bobcat]

sim it to find out

[sudden trellis]

do you mean like minus the droptizmer? just do a top gear ?

[remote bobcat]

you're asking what the bigger upgrade is from dinar purchase no?

just sim that

you can do that with droptimizer or topgear

both work

[sudden trellis]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7rFXFp2ni5moNfQ3WqZ79h

the trinkets/ boots arent going to happen we are not on reclear. so i see the wep at 40k

This is an alt so i cant get them from vendor

[remote bobcat]

i mean the weapon doesnt imply recrafting other crafted gear to double vers embellishment

so ig you need to top-gear it

[lean nacelle]

looks like the weap is replacing your MH and moving your embellish to your off hand

[remote bobcat]

oh i didnt even check that

yea

that is definitely whats happening

i just assumed u had 730 mainhand already

trying to replace 727 offhand

mb mb

[sudden trellis]

ah no just two crafted. just confused why crit vers one

[remote bobcat]

temporary stat issue

its better to get haste vers or haste mastery weapon and then just change enchants n gems

[sudden trellis]

so should i ignore that and just buy the one from floodgate with haste mast

[remote bobcat]

that's gonna yield an overall higher increase in once you fix the variables

yes

unelss u wanna buy trinkets

unless**

[sudden trellis]

i still run heroic every week so trinkets still has a chance at them

so grab haste / mast wep and then fix gems / gear for stats and thats fine right just wanna be 100% sure before i spend it

thank you for the help

[gaunt loom]

is it actually possible to use rb 5 times after bladestorm? i can only ever get like 3 at most.

[ornate tundra]

@foggy thicket

[olive wraith]

Highly unlikely

Especially since exe conditionals are also pretty common

[gaunt loom]

doesn't enrage fall off before that though?

after about 3 casts following enrage, i usually have to use rampage to keep it up.

i don’t get why this even goes up to 5 stacks.

shouldn’t they have just made it 3 stacks instead?

[olive wraith]

Yes typically. Idk why ss goes up to 5. Maybe cause it was easier to hit when we used onslaught

[gaunt loom]

maybe it's for pvp?

[olive wraith]

Talent hasn’t changed all tww I think it’s just neglected

[tepid pond]

whats the best way to sim fury warrior? patchwork or dungeon slice:? whats best

[plush ice]

on Demmi you can't heroic leap over the rings can yo u?

[sullen dove]

I imagine no or like everyone woulda known about it + be doing it all the time

you can try to do a like jump them leap to get more air certain mechanics were able to be done like that before

think ansurek ring don’t remember if u had to jump the leap or not but it def helped

[plush ice]

yeah, i didn't think so, just wanted to make sure I wasn't being a dum dum and everyone knew but me hehe

[bitter palm]

ms non crit*

xdddd

[burnt stone]

Hey guys, I have a question about M+ trinket choices. According to simulations, Stone Idol and Antenna seem to be the best options, but I’ve noticed quite a few players using Arakara as well. Which combination do you prefer?

[junior gale]

all 3 are good pick what you want. I run ara + antenna, because fuck idol

[bitter palm]

real

idol fuck ass trinket

[burnt stone]

It's not good for idols to use, but the performance itself is good lol

[junior gale]

Skyhold auto ban for bad words is very uh yeah

[feral ivy]

demmy prog we getting to platform 2 with 95% alive .. feels good

[junior gale]

interesting words it chooses to ban

[sullen dove]

my favorite is when you cant type the singular tense of a word that has a literal command for the plural tense

eyir cocks

@lean geyser cocks

does it not work anymore

idr what it was

but yea good one cant type single lol

@lean geyser socks

think shes dead

[dapper goblet]

@lean geyser fuck you

[junior gale]

@lean geyser Fuck ass

[bitter palm]

cba

[worn owl]

how does reap the storm work?

[worn owl]

but when i press rampaging blow it triggers

thats where im confused

[worn owl]

oh ok

ty

[feral ivy]

demmy mythic p2 if u double soak the circles do u die?

[modest condor]

eyir rocks

[sullen dove]

no

your entire raid dies

or u mean the reverse gravities

ehe

thought would b funny to post 50mil group wipe

sounds like u get knocked maybe?

if you take more than 1

[feral ivy]

nah p2 platform 1 and 2 if ur not the one controlling the 1/3 soaks but if they overlap and u soak it

do u die

[sullen dove]

idk assume if it like clears the crushing debuff fast enough youd get knocked by the second one

so probably bad

or i imagine they wouldntve gone to the trouble of spreading the 3 out and just full stack em for simpleness

5mil dmg x3 is piss

[bold bear]

If you have a crushing gravity you can stand in the overlapping section of the inverse gravity venn diagrams and be fine

[bold bear]

You don’t stack them because the crushing gravity people need room to spread out

[sullen dove]

o the 5mil is the small circles the big are only 1.6m

so the knockback part of inverse will jsut never happen

unless the 3 ppl with the big circles themselves are on eachother?

seems odd would imagine getting double cleaved should count as getting knocked back but cool ig

[bold bear]

Yes the only time that happens is if someone with a big circle is hit by another big circle

That can happen semi frequently in p3 if people move around during one of the pulls

[feral ivy]

sorrry forgot the name of this thing lol so i think u did answer before

[warm crag]

You can be in 2 circles itll just hurt iirc

[gaunt loom]

tested it, murpray’s flash can be avoided entirely with bladestorm, both the blind and the damage. using it about 1.5s before the cast finishes lines up the cd perfectly too.

[scarlet dock]

how my reflect works in first boss of streets?

i presset nothing happens

[smoky vale]

it deflects it

[scarlet dock]

i shouldnt be stunned right?

or caged

but i will

[sullen dove]

idk what ur sposta reflect first boss but its def not the cage

u can bladestorm immune it but tahts about it

[drifting parrot]

general survivability question. just rerolled fury from hunter. am undergeared, but group wanted to mess around in an 18 AK with it. how in the hell do you survive things as fury? im like 14ilvls down, but thats not really what im looking for. 1st boss AK, ive got ER for like every 3rd alert shrill thing. victory rush (or w/e its called) for most of the pulsing aoe. but outside of that (and rally) how do i live? just an example, but im looking for a more generalized survivability answer

[smoky vale]

get healed

press reflect for every time the webs drop

go dstance

[drifting parrot]

ah, forgot about dstance

[agile field]

streets boss 1 reflect is for disarm, but its instant so u precast reflect and might not be targetted. cage cannot be reflected, havent tested bladestorm. shadowmeld on cage cast makes boss recast at potentially new target

[smoky vale]

you save bs for each interrogation to immune

its not an instant cast

there is cast time so you have to watch spell queue and watch as boss casts it

otherwise you die on 20s

[scarlet dock]

di,m talking about a mechanic named =
[Interrogation]

[smoky vale]

you press bladestorm 1-2s before the interrogation cast ends while on you

[scarlet dock]

oh got it

[agile field]

disarm is instant, no?

[smoky vale]

it has a cast time

[gaunt loom]

cast too fast

you gotta focus

[iron portal]

You reflect the contraband, so your weapon wont get yoinked

If you want to spell reflect for cage, it will only reduce the damage taken when in it, wont stop the cage

@sullen dove info for you too i suppose

Human best for the streets change my mind

Racial goat

[river reef]

Just nightelf it and give it some other fucker

[iron portal]

And i just noticed some people already answered it, my bad

[earnest canyon]

Tauren is best because you don't fit in the cage

[cobalt relic]

gm

[earnest canyon]

Yo

[cobalt relic]

tired

[slim coral]

You spell reflect the disarm and blade storm the cage

[cobalt relic]

yeppers

u always keep bs for the cage

[earnest canyon]

Go bk 2 bd

[cobalt relic]

unless u got a pala that can bubble u

[lavish pond]

guys if we want to not use the CDs immedietly, whats the best rotation in AOE situations? WW/Rampage/RB and then CD/Stone idol?

OR WW/BT/Rampge/RB etc?

[lament fox]

You can use bladestorm on pull, the you hold next for interrogation

[lavish pond]

I mean under a situation u dont have bs

and u want to use the resto of CDs after a few secs

i mean before tank gathers all the pack

similar situations like that

[agile field]

well ideally u wanna plan your bs so u have it for a new pack instead of blasting it towards the previous pack end, but im not sure where the sweet spot of holding is

[heavy dock]

not being 14 ilvls down also helps

def stance too

fury can survive things muuuuch better than squishy hunters

[fading sky]

First day of prog on saladbar

is there any way to bait spirits?

i am NOT loosing uptime 😄

[fading sky]

also make sure u are enraged

use IV

sr

Dstance

like

u arent dropping

[agile field]

guys look wow devs modelled the sky after my trinket

[devout totem]

why ur sky crying

[agile field]

coz its like me fr

[devout totem]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gossling-blade-runner-blade-runner-2049-purple-based-gif-10338804311867949447

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/colts-indianapolis-colts-dashawn-dashawndontplay-comebackcolts-gif-3722088454661338814

[agile field]

huh wouldnt ya know, collecting your weapon after disarm from Streets boss 1 gives u a 25% haste buff for 12 seconds

now im not sure if i wanna reflect it anymore. well during cds for sure, but then leap plus charge would be fairly quick

[cobalt relic]

u wanna reflect it

its useless

esp in higher keys

it does not matter u do in low keys

[pure tapir]

holy its silencee

are you reformed

[devout totem]

he stopped league, ofc he is reformed 🙏

[pure tapir]

man plays dk and warrior

not sure about that one bud

[earnest canyon]

No, he still has an animes profile pic. He is cursed.

[devout totem]

kinda better than otp'ing yi

[pure tapir]

is it

[cobalt relic]

a lil bit

halfway thru

[pure tapir]

yeah i can tell

good shit bro

[remote bobcat]

cluegi~1

[pure tapir]

ur kinda popping off on the war

wp

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/love-love-gif-12170619027935642877

all pugging too

get me a team plz

[earnest canyon]

Are you EU?

[remote bobcat]

NOOOO DONT FEED HIS EGO

he has a league of legends ego

[pure tapir]

so do i

its fine

[cobalt relic]

yes

ego is good

healthy ego OP

[wild mural]

Anime pfp

[pure tapir]

unfortunately i do not know of anyone playing phys comp

[remote bobcat]

your ego is a bit fragile tho

[heavy dock]

wowhead is so real for this LMAO

[fervent violet]

i'm trying to guide my friend, Told him to check bloodmallet secondary stat distribution. he says he cant find a warrior that followed it, and i cant find either. help xD

[remote bobcat]

bloodmallet is too generic

we sim

raidbots.com is the way

[fading sky]

This is alpha?

Coz thats classic warrior🤣

[wild mural]

That's just so warrior

[heavy dock]

nah just on the 'dps tier list' where fury is in B tier

raid i think

[fading sky]

ahaha

ye arms is legit Horrid atm

less ST than fury and less aoe

clunkier to play

[heavy dock]

based

[fading sky]

i mean

Fury is quite good on a fight like saladbar

[remote bobcat]

okay but listen arms has big jugg fast

💯

[fading sky]

Must be very good on last 2 bosses yes

😄 15 stacks

😄

[remote bobcat]

[sour frigate]

[zealous sluice]

If Ara kara trinket and Stone idol sims more or less the same with my current gear.
Would you guys just run the Ara kara one to avoid the hassle of on use/channel from stone idol?

Or is the controlled crit stack into bladestorm something you prefer?

[brave lava]

Taking arakara all day

It will make us stronger in single target and you kinda want to get it even stronger cause that's our job as fury

[zealous sluice]

I see, my sims have been 5 target cleave to be fair.
Ty for the insight 🙂
(Sims wanted me to use Stone idol + Ara kara in the end it seems)
Rip floodgate trinket i guess 😄

That said, the difference between Floodgate and stone idol between the sims was 20k dps

aka nothing xD

[brave lava]

Really good combo to get both of them but stone idol is annoying to use

[zealous sluice]

If i only drop 20k using the floodgate one, mights aswell right ?

[brave lava]

When we're on 10m DPS on aoe, 20k seems pretty ok
And it mean you'll be using the idol perfectly each time

What does sim say in mono ?

[zealous sluice]

Checking now, was mid key

World longest queue, happy times

https://imgur.com/iESRD8r

So ST gain + 20k aoe dps loss feels like a fair call to go all in ara+floodgate and skip stone totem

[brave lava]

Think so yes

[hardy shuttle]

The only problem is you cant control when pacemaker buffs you

[sullen dove]

i mean...

its like... the most controllable id say

its unfortunate if youre fighting a pack that lasts longer than 1 minute so u might waste some time there

but generally it reliably enough procs like the moment you walk into a pack

just every minute for 30 seconds on a cycle

but not as much as an on use i suppose yeah

pace compared to other passive trinks is better that way

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-man-guy-evil-whisper-gif-16225917572032847521

[sullen dove]

me asf

[bitter palm]

tuff

goes hard asf

[remote bobcat]

thanks, i made that

all my credit

all me

[sullen dove]

holy tuff

this shit so flames

https://tenor.com/view/lixovsk-hoshimi-miyabi-miyabi-zzz-meeb-gif-6797695186157910413

[drifting parrot]

whats the priority on Bloodthirst in Slayer AoE? higher than normal because of Reap the Storm, or no?

[young swan]

u ideally never press it

sometimes its unavoidable, if you dont have an execute ready, run out of rb charges, and cant rampage (very unlikely) or you messed up bladestorm timing and dont have it ready for a pack

[remote bobcat]

Raging blow procs reap the storm so we press raging blow when overwhelmed is applied

[young swan]

you would press BT to proc reap to get overwhelmed up so you can press more RB, but both of these are basically faults of the player

[remote bobcat]

or tank

[young swan]

i think thats probably less likely, but yeah

[remote bobcat]

randomly timed chainpulls by tanks do happen ngl

in pugs

[drifting parrot]

gotcha. so really its bottom prio, when theres nothing really left to press?

[young swan]

pretty much

[young swan]

yeah thats true

[modest condor]

yeah ive definitely had pulls where it was the tank's fault

last area in gambit, tank pulls one of the minibosses solo and just fights it there, i think ok i guess ill just send bladestorm kind of a waste

10 seconds later he chains it into the pack

like

????

[drifting parrot]

im not really understanding why bad chain pulls by the tank affect usage of BT or not

[remote bobcat]

yep

[remote bobcat]

read your 4set

[young swan]

if u commit BS to the first pull only for the tank to then pull other shit randomly

the other shit then does not have overwhelmed

[drifting parrot]

ic ic

[young swan]

and u are in pain

[remote bobcat]

Our aoe is triggered by our 4set which requires Overwhelmed to be applied to the targets around you.
If you waste bladestorm then you have no reliable way to apply Overwhelmed - with BT being a semi reliable source of overwhelmed

but we dont want to rely on BT

Thats also why we hold bladestorm so much

it's a set-up cooldown more than a damage cooldown

[drifting parrot]

only been playing fury for about a day, so maybe i misunderstood the loop? so the goal of BS isnt so much the damage, as it is putting Overwhelmed on all enemies, then doing normal rotation to proc RtS, and thats where most of the damage comes from?

[remote bobcat]

pretty much

until u reach higher keys

thats where we bladestorm for damage too

[young swan]

BS is still good damage and you want to use it as such if you can, but getting the overwhelmed stacks is absolutely a higher priority for the most part

[modest condor]

4set is basically the only reason slayer can do reasonable uncapped aoe

bladestorm is the best way to enable 4set

it's a tradeoff you have to make

you would rather send bladestorm on cooldown, but then you cant use 4set until like 15 seconds into a pull

[drifting parrot]

gotcha. 2 more questions for now.
does each individual cleave from RB have the chance to proc RtS (5 individual chances per RB with WW active)?
at the end of a dungeon, what should the disparity between RB and RtS be? atm mine are about equal on meters. thats probably wrong, right?

[modest condor]

1: yes, that's the reason we are able to play slayer (it used to not do that which is why we started the season as thane)
2: generally rts should be above raging blow, altho in the smaller pull dungeons (like streets) you may see rb ahead

[remote bobcat]

yea every cleaved RB has a chance of up to 20% to proc reap

[drifting parrot]

cool thanks for the info. ill be back after a few more dungeons to see what else im fkin up

[remote bobcat]

best case scenario is 67%

[modest condor]

you can tell how well someone is managing their bladestorm by how high reap is on their damage breakdown

if reap is top damage done they're playing it correctly

[drifting parrot]

so what exactly is the reason you hold BS? like, if pack is 50% or so, i have BS available, but all targets have Overwhelmed already, and i know ill probably have BS back for start of next pull, am i holding or sending? or is there another reason im missing?

[remote bobcat]

you send if u know u get it back in time

[modest condor]

if you know you'll have bs back for next pull you send it

the reason you hold it is to make sure you can start the next pull with bladestorm so you can instantly apply 8 stacks of overwhelmed

[drifting parrot]

ok, so its literally just making sure you have it on pull for each pull then?

[remote bobcat]

correct

boss also

(2set)

[drifting parrot]

roger. thanks

[fading sky]

Also the way u control is

Sending more executies

If u want cdr faster

[drifting parrot]

ive been holding execute for 2-3 MfE stacks. should i not do that?

[smoky vale]

i need one

[fading sky]

Oh thats fine my point is

If u c u need cdr u can prio exe a bit higher

[drifting parrot]

ah

[fading sky]

Esp late in pulls with fewe mobs alive

[fading sky]

Again u get s feel when keys go up

[drifting parrot]

im sure. 14/15s rn, just tryna make sure i understand it b4 my group brings it in for ours 19s

[drifting parrot]

oh one more, where does Cursed Stone Idol fit into the rotation? should i be sending that b4 going in (trinket>Reck/Avatar>charge), or like after i bladestorm?

[remote bobcat]

you send cursed stone idol while charging since you want to hit as many targets as possible with it

[drifting parrot]

while charging? am i dumb? it can be channeled while moving?

[remote bobcat]

so it's like:
During Gather -> get enraged -> whirlwind refresh -> charge -> CSI -> Cooldowns

[drifting parrot]

werd

[agile field]

why does it hit more ppl during charging as opposed to positioning yourself in the middle of the mobpack if u alrdy got enough rage from the gather phase?

[young swan]

it can yeah

[woven valley]

Kronzo is handing out holy thighbles?

What is the world anymore

[sullen dove]

saved?

[woven valley]

I mean big agree

[fair tundra]

can someone help me with a log? explain me why my dps is low?

[charred flint]

yes

[remote bobcat]

Well do you want one?

[coarse nest]

[remote bobcat]

#1347646810457636974

[gleaming siren]

@oblique trail needs this

[oblique trail]

explode

kindly

[gleaming siren]

I wish

[remote bobcat]

you dont want one?

[gleaming siren]

@clever belfry explode me please

[clever belfry]

explode me first

[oblique trail]

enter the transport chopper with Anda and it will happen fast

[clever belfry]

u misspelled car

the chopper is livelordx

[oblique trail]

car?

🐱

[remote bobcat]

@oblique trail

[oblique trail]

I did not need this

[remote bobcat]

it's a want, not a need

correct

[gleaming siren]

Minion car

https://tenor.com/view/geoffrey-car-bad-driver-minions-funny-gif-felony-gif-25200117

[coarse nest]

😂

[woven valley]

Why would I say no

Thighs save lives

[remote bobcat]

banezi said no

[earnest canyon]

is discord being a laggy piece of shit for anyone else or just me?

[stray ledge]

So I'm not sure what to spend my next 2 chips on i got heroic scream havnt killed mythic yet. I also got mythic boots and got mythic core, stone and antenna. For weapon i got emberbrand i sim like 10 times with both mastery haste swords mine Sims better every time

[drifting parrot]

am i missing something? how many times is Rampage supposed to hit? sometimes it feels like 3, other times a slow 2. is it a visual/audio thing, or am i missing something entirely?

[sullen dove]

it’s 4 hits but like your character swings 3 times

Cuz 2 are at the same time at the end

[drifting parrot]

yeah thats what i mean. like sometimes it feel like it hits all 3 times, others it feels like a slow 1-2 hit. too many numbers on screen to really tell, that just what it feels like sometimes. maybe its a haste thing? like when enraged, sometimes i just have so much haste its like lagging the animation when im already hitting something else?

[teal pine]

I think i know what you mean but its always doing its full damage

You dont need to play around it or anything

[drifting parrot]

i thought so, just wanted to make sure i wasnt losing damage or missing some hidden interaction with rampage.

[heavy folio]

why they made dimmy hands so dark cmon

cant see shit at times

so annoying

[earnest canyon]

It's 2025 bro, hating on skin colour is not cool. He was born like that.

[formal ravine]

had the most fun shit ever on dimensius last week : tank got knocked on our side and taunted, boss melees him mid air causing everyone to get knocked everywhere while mid air

[deep sapphire]

So I have the ability to spend Dinars on M+ instead of raid, I have Stone Idol and Antenna right now, between Sac and Pacemaker which is better over Antenna?

[plush zephyr]

Neither?

[remote bobcat]

neither innit

[feral ivy]

anyone knows how to fix this..

its this every sever

[earnest canyon]

Have you tried fully quitting discord and restarting. And if not, restarting your PC?

[feral ivy]

i have .. the only fix ive done is unistall to re download

[earnest canyon]

Are you in control of your network or are you at work or school/college or something

[feral ivy]

yea my home

[earnest canyon]

and you definitely restarted the PC? You arent just saying that

[feral ivy]

yea i reset it every night and was doing it last night before raid

well i turn off my computer every night

[earnest canyon]

And you own the network? Its not your parents or something? No clue how old you are.

[pearl sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-look-its-spongebob-spongebob-xqc-funny-moments-felix-lengyel-gif-24861454

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-gif-10061070920122192479

[willow cradle]

@restive peak Stop AFKing on the flex mount lmao

[earnest canyon]

Is that fortnite?

[young swan]

it took me so long to realize this isnt wow

[feral ivy]

TRANSMOG RATE?

[pearl sequoia]

BAALLLDDDD!!!

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-bald-gif-26454753

[unreal berry]

Coming from casters mainly, does the input lag tolerance make a big difference for melee

What do people here sit at with it

[cobalt kernel]

youll have to play with it but your ping +100

as an example i play 150

[earnest canyon]

whatever the default is. tried messing around with it over many years, and as long as you have a low ping it just makes things worse

[restive peak]

SUP DAWG

[tiny hawk]

anyone randomly have their abilites stop critting and missing about 20% of their hits in general

[modest condor]

cant say ive ever experienced that unless the enemy specifically has some mechanic that causes your attacks to miss

[tiny hawk]

our fury warrior randomly stopped critting and missing a lot after about 25ish pulls on the boss

no issues up until then, just weird

[modest condor]

got a log?

[feral ivy]

lets goooo we got to p3 in demmy mythic 2 times .. might only have 3 and 5 ppl alive but still getting to it

[modest condor]

big

[earnest canyon]

did you fix your discord chat thing?

[feral ivy]

No the only thing that works is when I uninstall it and reinstall it

[earnest canyon]

Very odd. Was gonna say you can try ipconfig release and then renew. It looks network related.

Anyway, grats on Blue Blob Boy

[hardy quiver]

Kratos from temu :p

Jk

[sullen dove]

tuff?

[supple tangle]

Is it possible to do the Balance of Power with a warrior in Remix with Trial of Rage being unavailable? Im not sure if its part of it

[radiant plank]

tuff

[frozen kayak]

Balance of power only requires content up to nighthold

You dont need any broken shore/tomb content

[wild mural]

Yeah

Also after getting zero (0) pulls on dimmy on my warrior I'm now going to play my druid

At the request of my raid leader

[heavy dock]

close enough, welcome malnourished kratos

[fervent violet]

if i buy a heroic version of a trinket with puzzling cartel chip, will the mythic one be free as soon as i do the +12 ?

[hardy quiver]

Trial of rage is for the class mount

U don't need it for balance of power

[supple tangle]

Check thanks

[cobalt relic]

gm

[cobalt relic]

wtf noob

[cunning condor]

Average wow raid leader’s physique

[stoic echo]

gg

[earnest canyon]

You shouldn't dox yourself

[coarse widget]

and?

[remote bobcat]

@cobalt relic

gg

gg

[cobalt relic]

gg

hes noob even in coc gg

[remote bobcat]

tbf swordish is a better warrior than u

[junior oyster]

Overcultivation of da moscles is poor cover for underdeveloped personality lol

[odd vapor]

dont know which one to pick

[pearl sequoia]

me fr

humanoid

[sage quiver]

Do you care about your hands and carpel tunnel? If yes, pick right else pick left

[odd vapor]

toughest choice of my life

[trim hound]

i switched to powerful for a bit, realized i spam too fast anyways so it doesn't actually help with my hands, switched back

[cunning condor]

Triggered boys

@earnest canyon Anime cover,opinion rejected

https://tenor.com/view/ufc-mma-pfl-knockout-fabian-edwards-gif-4950513483782856962

[high sedge]

thank you for your input discord user absolute written in a really corny way

[cunning condor]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-why-are-you-gay-pepe-julian-who-is-gay-you-are-gay-gif-15004128

https://tenor.com/view/gay-d-gay-gif-26897914

[high sedge]

slayyy 💅

[cunning condor]

took a photo of you queen

[high sedge]

dont know if you are ragebaiting or just that guy

[cunning condor]

https://tenor.com/view/why-you-mad-zac-zatima-why-are-you-so-angry-bet-plus-gif-16417745391409734045

[coarse widget]

^_^

[high sedge]

2010 facebook dad type of response ye

[cunning condor]

chad thing to say

[cunning condor]

https://tenor.com/view/artem-sigma-tema-temka-artemka-gif-10408566360177142037

[coarse widget]

only if you were kind. now it's just a thing to say :)

[cunning condor]

https://tenor.com/view/king-fierce-stand-stop-gif-8972231694001445015

[devout totem]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-gossip-listening-suspense-drama-gif-18062083597614221595

[coarse widget]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-king-trump-king-gif-8453217410772799881

[cunning condor]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-yes-approve-approval-i-approve-gif-5111426790472579865

[cobalt relic]

not this cancer

again

everytime I push my key

its psf

[high sedge]

its joever...

[spiral stratus]

Looking for some stat pointers I know Mastery and Haste are priority but does my Crit and Versa seem low?

[sour frigate]

1st ure not gear capped
2nd

[earnest canyon]

I'm trying to get into the animes

[spiral stratus]

I mean I did sim, which is why I joined the war disc to get further information and tips.

[verbal garden]

Does Action Targeting help or hurt for melee?

[trim hound]

manually targeting overrides Action targeting so i'd say there isn't much of a downside

[whole yacht]

welcome to class discords lol

[high sedge]

why do you play with that much haste?

[winter shoal]

The only correct answer is to sim your character, I'm not really sure what you were expecting differently

[dense elbow]

Eyeballing it, I would presume you really want some versa. Crit doesn't matter at all for us, so ya prob fine on that front. (Also versa makes tanky even more tanky)

Sim, but i would guess you want to drop some mastery for versa. Maybe some more crit.

Answer is boring tho, if you don't trust your own gameplan. Easiest is to sin yourself and check for better options.

[winter shoal]

Crit tends to gain slightly more value in aoe than it does in single target, but not substantially so. You can also just run a single target sim and an aoe sim and compare them manually (which is what most of us do)

For reference I'm more or less full bis and I have around 6k crit with Screams on for raid, 4.5k or so with sacbrood on for M+

[spiral stratus]

I was expecting a conversation with a person rather then the go to "sim your self" response the data is great but so is talking to people that are bis and have played the class a long time.

[dense elbow]

I am not BiS

[winter shoal]

Funky is bis in our hearts

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-cat-kitty-cute-gif-11087999

[winter shoal]

I get that for sure, but the reality is that gearing has minimal impact on (and is minimally impacted by) gameplay, so really outside of specific cd/fight timings, nobody can really give a better or more accurate answer than the sim can

And you can always use lorrgs or manually look at top logs to see if trinkets (which are really the only thing that affects gameplay to any significant degree) are changing on specific boss fights or keys

[spiral stratus]

Fair, Ill check out lorrgs and see what I could do differently. I just feel like sometimes my dps is low in aoe situations. could just be user error though. I just picked up fury in season 3 after not playing my warrior since cata so I'm sure there is tons of stuff I'm doing wrong.

[winter shoal]

The biggest thing for aoe with current fury is using RB to proc Reap the Storm, which relies on having Overwhelm stacked on as many targets as possible as high as possible. In M+ especially, you want to open a pack with enrage -> BS asap to apply those Overwhelm stacks immediately. It's often worth holding BS if it comes back up during a pack so that you can use it on the next pack

There's a bit of a balancing act where you still want to use your BS for its raw damage, but only if you'll have it back up for the start of the next pack

Which can be pretty tough to do, especially in pugs where you aren't sure when your other dps will be sending their cds, what pulls the tank is doing, etc

But that's the most common error is people will just send BS whenever they can instead of saving it to apply those Overwhelm stacks on each pack

^ all of this has literally nothing to do with gearing though 🙂

[spiral stratus]

Appreciate the knowledge. I'm guilty of just sending BS on CD

[dense elbow]

Having to hold BS to start the next pack, is my least fav part of the tiersets impact

[spiral stratus]

Another question I had was is it worth taking Seismic Reverberation over Concussive Blows or Rumbling Earth in M+? I see a lot of debate on it being personal choice and haven't really noticed the difference my self when swapping between the 3 other then a slight dmg increase on single target casters taking CB.

[winter shoal]

Always rumbling earth imo

Unless you're in a coordinated group that has stops assigned and planned out, and even then it can be useful for the extra shockwave range

[verbal garden]

Any tips for maintaining up time on first boss of Gambit when tank pulls the 4 big dudes with all the ground crap into the boss? I find it difficult to stay within range consistently with all the movement and dodging.

[high sedge]

stay on the tank and move when frontals

[brave lava]

Nothing to do but cry

And in reality, try to stick to the tank like ouais said

[gaunt loom]

noo

rematch on sunday

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-pov-dog-dance-whippet-long-neck-dog-gif-12872896184384768605

[earnest canyon]

Stupid question: Can you use 2x crafted rings? Or even better, 2x with the same stats? Cos it doesn't say unique equipped, and I mean without any affix like duskthread or whatever. Just bog standard crafted.

[tight roost]

Yes

[earnest canyon]

Are you sure?

[hardy cargo]

yes u can wear 2x crafted ring

[earnest canyon]

with the same stats?

[hardy cargo]

yes

[earnest canyon]

Ok thanks!

Any idea why raidbots only sims one then? I gave it 6 crafted rings (2x haste/vers, 2x crit/vers, 2x crit/haste), hoping it would show sims for 2x crafted rings as well as 1x and current gear, but it only ever equips one crafted, hence my question

[hardy cargo]

what setting

top gear droptimizer etc I assume top gear?

[earnest canyon]

top gear yes

[hardy cargo]

did u max out the resources at the top

[earnest canyon]

yes

[hardy cargo]

so that it can do multiple

[earnest canyon]

if i hadnt it would have flagged some of them as unavailable anyway, but ill do it again just to make 100% sure

[hardy cargo]

I am able to get it to show wearing 2x crafted ring, ofc its much worse than what ive got on just by nature of adding shitty stats on the extra ring just bc the one I alr got is for OS

[earnest canyon]

yeah I think it must be the maxing resources button, i had to click it 3 times to reflect an update, so my bad (As usual)...simming it again now, thanks

[hardy cargo]

kekw

gl sir

[mellow ridge]

Hello all you lovely people 🙂
Am i allowed to post Fury warrior, Remix Legion questions here?

[modest condor]

yes, but dont expect much insight because it's a meme game mode

[mellow ridge]

ok..so according to the class guide on wowhead (https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/legion-remix) it says that the secondary stat priority system is haste then mastery then crit.
But using that silly priority system would mean that every gear would only have haste and mastery because haste and mastery has precedence over crit.
So i'm confused, what % of haste to aim for, what % of crit to aim for?
Should it be 100% haste, then mastery all over, and what's left in crit? ..or is there a % crit i need to aim before i dump everything to mastery?

..sorry...i'm confused..so i ask lots of questions..

[sullen dove]

yea i mean ur exact stats really dont matter

the only thing that actually has a "cap" is crit so you can just aim for like 80%ish crit so you get another 20 from recklessness and are at 100 critting everything

and then rest just dump into haste and mast, would say mast generally more valuable cuz u dont really start to feel haste past like a certain amount i think

i prolly dont have more than like 60% but it really doesnt matter min maxing exact stats is meaningless in that kind of gamemode

u can just work towards 100% crits and thats about the only thing worth thinking about id say

[modest condor]

yeah that's what i mean with it's a meme gamemode

like literally just equip the highest ilvl gear who cares

dont think i ever looked at the secondaries on my gear in remix

[sullen dove]

once u hit 740 which isnt much of a feat anymore all gear from then on just drops at that lvl so you can play around with stats a little more but yea theres no reason to like try to sim or otherwise do a ton of stat gaming

might make like a leech set for giga high m+ if ur into that or just speed set for general farming

i just been playing arms cuz i feel like it does a lot better when u have 100% critrate but could be placebo, i have like 94% or so crit there cuz most abilities have another 5 or 10% from talents

and demolish cdr with 100% crit feels epic too

[mellow ridge]

it might be a meme game mode, but its cool to see super high numbers, and soloing +30s, i for one love it the game mode.

ok..so 70-80% crit ..then the rest into haste (70-80%) and mastery ..right?

[sullen dove]

sure just some even amount of spread

idk exactly how much stats u get

but like a little more mastery than haste probably

regardless the soloing 30's bit comes a lot more from how much verse u have vs the other stats

at like 200% is when you cap out the damage reduction so i think thats like baseline requirement

unless youre a tank or something maybe u can live with lower verse

but obv having alot more verse helps to just do that much more dmg

also more verse buff = more health buff cuz u get stam and verse at the same time

so the more u have just the chunkier you are as well

[earnest canyon]

the stats dont matter at all

im playing DH, and im supposed to get crit to 100%, then mastery....but i just stack mastery for the speed, so my crit is down to 42%. But vers stacks so high that is what matters.

what does this details Interupt shit mean with the x / y now? Like 17 / 2 or whatever? What is the latter number

[smoky vale]

hey there when can you do 49s alone

[sullen dove]

idk i havent played it in like 2 weeks

shits boring

[smoky vale]

gg

insta died

[earnest canyon]

rip

tell me what the details interrupts mean now

when did they change it

[mellow ridge]

ok, thank you for the help, i think i understand now a bit more, thank you!

[earnest canyon]

All people care about is how much vers you have. 999% vers >>>>>>>>>> whatever stats you have.

I would have thought having 100% crit would make way more of a diff as its guaranteed crit, but 340% mastery just made up for it and I run faster than a ground mount

[mellow ridge]

well...fury's mastery is to increase damage while neraged..so i just need to get 100% enrage somehoe..and just dump all on mastery. ..enrage you get from bloodthirst crit and rampage usage..

[earnest canyon]

As I said, the stats dont matter so much when you can get so much vers

999% vers = 999% increase in damage