fury

[young swan]

they'll still be running when you get bladestorm back and actively contribute to you getting BS back faster

[gaunt loom]

i was thinking maybe it’s stronger to spam rb as much as possible while cooldowns are up.

[young swan]

you could pop reck early then and use avatar after u get bladestorm off cd

desyncing doesnt matter because AM and torments exist

[gaunt loom]

i still don’t know if it’s better to just spam rb after bladestorm or to play by consuming 2 stacks of sudden death.

[young swan]

spam RB

once you get to the 5-8 target range, u pretty much only press execute if ur at 3 mfe stacks

there could be an argument made for prio damage on an important target maybe

[gaunt loom]

got it thanks for the answer

so is spamming rb actually stronger than using bladestorm right now?

[clear axle]

use BS on every pack or your dam is heavily punished

[lavish pond]

guys is there any way to check our cpm?

[sour frigate]

warcraftlogs

[gaunt loom]

why did he bring out the training dummy here?

[sullen dove]

padgechadge

[coarse nest]

Mans out here dropping turnip to get more reap proc chance

[sullen dove]

didnt even know u could do that

but kinda fire

[coarse nest]

TIL too

[sullen dove]

surely training dummy dmg not recorded in details

[gaunt loom]

looks like he reset the dungeon…

[slate elk]

that´s troll right

it must be

[hardy cargo]

yes

[slate elk]

noted

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/64f094562a95ac1ba62024b2/2x.gif

[sullen dove]

nope real build

[gaunt loom]

what’s the difference between having 1 stack and 2 stacks of sudden death?

[undone flower]

prove me i'm wrong

[hardy cargo]

are u asking for purposes of why 2 stacker its important to use it? Just so if you get a proc that you dont lose a usage of execute

[gaunt loom]

i thought there was a performance difference, like with mfe.

[remote bobcat]

no rampage is so funny i fuck with this heavy

[undone flower]

i didn't commit to SMF or attack speed OF capstone in the ara kara, after some dummy testing, i didn't need SMF for enrage and attack speed OF is so troll

[hardy cargo]

consuming a 2nd stack of SD vs 1 stack of SD provided same MFE/JUG doesnt have a numerical difference in a vacuum. But it ensures you dont overcap SD charges and lose a usage and allows you to extend jugg which is a dps gain

[gaunt loom]

i still don’t really have a good sense of how often i should be using rb, sd, and mfe in big aoe situations.

[hardy cargo]

I press execute when
out of rb and still enraged
3x MFE on a guy
SD about to expire
jugg abt to fall off

you also kinda just have to feel it like some of that shit like sd and jugg wont matter fp of floodgate for instance.

[gaunt loom]

my brain

[flat river]

where storm of swords

and pick slayer

[dense elbow]

Proof is in that OF is doing 33% more damage than it should, telling me that you are doing 33% less damage than you should

[feral ivy]

we get 2nd dinar item next week or this week? like to buy an item

[sullen dove]

if by this week you mean tomorrow psure its tmrw yea

think we've had 5 now

[hollow leaf]

what kind of alternate reality did I wake up in

[coarse nest]

It might be the Bartlett’s

[tall ruin]

Im an Arms player trying to learn fury. My reap the storm dmg is really low in keys. Should i be tracking bloodcraze and sending bloodthirst at max stacks? Or do you just send blood thirst periodically? or am i mismanaging bladestorm? Im not getting the reap dmg i should and not sure what I need to do. Im unclear on bloodthirst usage.

[bitter palm]

u should spam raging blow with 4p

legit dont even think about bt

[coarse nest]

For aoe*
Start every pack with Bladestorm
Maintain enrage
Maintain meatcleaver stacks when out
Execute at 3x MFE
Raging blow spam

[tall ruin]

I think i saw you post this exact thing while searching for BT posts. THanks.

Im overthinking the BT thing

[coarse nest]

Cheers 😄

BT you almost never press unless you goof up and start a pack without BS in which case it’s better to BT for reap procs until you BS

Then you switch back to RB because it synergizes with 4pc

[tall ruin]

Ok, i just read that about holding BS so you start next pack with it

that sounds important

[coarse nest]

Yes, you have to try your best to judge that on the fly there isn’t a perfect rule of thumb

Also if pack is dead soon and you don’t have BS available execute at any amount of MFE stacks

You want BS to start a pack that’s the bread and butter of our AoE

[tall ruin]

Good copy. Last noob question since you're being super helpful... How important is being over 115 rage for rampage? Is sending at like 101 rage a huge dps loss? or is this just a dumb question

[coarse nest]

So 115 rage conditions there because the goal is to have as much enrage uptime as possible and in a lengthy encounter you will have gaps if you just spam rampage at 80 rage (as soon as it glows)
I however personally send whenever I glance at the number and it’s over 100 it’s easier to not waste as much rage that way

[tall ruin]

ok, thats very useful. Thanks for the QnA mate

[novel gull]

it would be worth it after a BS though to get that extra RB in right?

for the proc

[coarse nest]

If you want to play around 115 rage you have to get used to tracking when your next auto would over cap you if you can’t spend rampage quick enough after a builder (ex raging blow)

[coarse nest]

Anytime happy to help 😄

[coarse nest]

Yes absolutely, you want to play around the brutal finish window by stacking slaughtering strike stacks(up to 5) until enrage drops then the very next global is rampage

[novel gull]

yeah ok, that is what I just started doing

[coarse nest]

It’s a smallish min max but it’s easy enough to do and you totally should!

[tall ruin]

but you want to get that rampge off while enrage is up, not force to 5 slaughtering stacks is how im reading this

[remote bobcat]

rampage enrages you and it does count for itself

[tall ruin]

oh it does

[remote bobcat]

you wanna raging blow while enraged

once enrage gone or no more raging blows

thats when u click rampage

make sense ?

[tall ruin]

yeah, i follow

[coarse nest]

Kronzo knowzo

[tall ruin]

if enrage falls off dont keep hitting Raging Blow to get to 5 stacks, send the rampage at that point

[remote bobcat]

yo brew

did u listen to my singing yet

[remote bobcat]

yes

[remote bobcat]

@coarse nest

[coarse nest]

Shit forgot to go back the other day

Link me to it

[remote bobcat]

https://warcraftrecorder.com/link/cfad0fb5-6868-46f2-8e54-b670d4a79f01

[coarse nest]

Ahhh love it!! I sing that verse to my wife everytime

[remote bobcat]

my woman said its magnificent

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-cheers-to-that-wink-steve-carell-gif-23705252507487769

[heavy folio]

worth taking fresh meat on dimmensius for quick enrage p1?

[remote bobcat]

no

whirlwind while walking backwards

[obtuse zephyr]

Big noob question, since I'm coming back to warrior after a long time: do people still macro /startattack into their main buttons?

[remote bobcat]

then charge with cds

insta rampage into bladestorm

[remote bobcat]

no

this hasnt been a thing for like 10 years

but i respect the concern

[obtuse zephyr]

Hah, ok

[coarse nest]

Just charge weave

Annoying as hell but works fine

[remote bobcat]

@heavy folio literally watch this clip i do it right there

[heavy folio]

kk

[remote bobcat]

these are the inputs

walk backwards into charge range while whirlwind GCD is going on

then do the things i mentioned

[worn owl]

any tips?

[chilly fractal]

Mouse wheel bindings

[smoky vale]

meow

[red berry]

try mapping bloodthirst

[worn owl]

if you couldnt tell, im a one button assist hater

[devout totem]

ready for mythic raiding 👍

[remote bobcat]

not just ready, bro will outperform us frauds

[devout totem]

fr fr 🥀

[chilly fractal]

Every alt I make gets the 1 button rotation added to the bar

[olive wraith]

Swap to d stance

[earnest canyon]

Everyone loves the d

[coarse nest]

Stance

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/แบะ-gif-23777819

[lime perch]

True

[cobalt relic]

all gg

[earnest canyon]

sc

[compact knot]

you could use odyns fury if you are a true cool person

then no charge needed

[loud moon]

do you overcap on rage in single target in reap windows the same way you do in cleave or send rampage when you have rage

[olive wraith]

Wdym by reap windows

[loud moon]

off bladestorm

[olive wraith]

Directly after bs you don’t care about rage

Rb until rage will drop or you run out of charges

[loud moon]

how long does that window last for?

[olive wraith]

Until you hit rampage

It has nothing to do with reaps btw. Just to clarify

[burnt stone]

Hello brothers, are you all looking forward to Midnight? Unfortunately, since WoW doesn’t allow UI customization anymore, I won’t be playing it — so for now, I’m just enjoying the present version.

Recently, however, something caught my curiosity, and I’d like to hear your thoughts or get some help with it.

When I play Mythic+, I use Stone Idol. Its casting time changes depending on haste, but for me, when I have the Enrage buff active, the cast time is around 0.65 seconds. After that, I usually cast Roar, then BS

But sometimes, even though I see the Enrage buff active and cast BS, the buff doesn’t get extended—it expires instead. This probably happens because the BT that automatically triggers during the BS cast finishes after the Enrage buff runs out.

That made me wonder: how long does it actually take between the moment BS is cast and when BT is executed? And what factors influence this delay?

So I ran several experiments. Since BS’s cast time depends on Haste, and the number of ID stacks affects the number of BT casts, I tested different cases: with 0 stacks and 3 stacks of ID, and also tracked the Frenzy buff stacks.

Here’s what I found: having 3 stacks of ID shortened the time between BS and BT casts by about 0.2 seconds. However, even with 4 stacks of Frenzy, if there were no ID stacks, the time between BS and BT barely shortened at all.

Is there something I might have misunderstood, missed checking, or any additional knowledge related to this that I should know?

[modest condor]

unhinged timing gets complicated because it depends both on haste and on imminent demise stacks

at a baseline bs is 4 seconds and ticks every second, with every other hit having a bt, so on 1 and on 3 seconds

with 3 stacks of ID you have to get 8 bladestorm hits in 4 seconds, since the first hit is instant it's really 7 hits, so we get 4/7, 12/7, 20/7 and 28/7 seconds for each bt hit

if you have 50% haste then at 0 ID stacks you get 1/1.5=0.67 for the first bt and 3/1.5=2 for the 2nd bt with a bs duration of 2.67

50% haste with 3 ID stacks means you do 4/7/1.5=8/21=~0.38

[sullen dove]

holy rare silm pfp swap

been like

84 years

[modest condor]

2021

was the last time i changed

[burnt stone]

It’s more complicated than I thought.
This all started because I was wondering how much minimum time should be left on the Enrage buff when I press the BS button after the GCD ends, in order to keep the buff active — but now my head hurts, lol

[modest condor]

i generally just press bs directly after a rampage

[burnt stone]

It’s probably safest to play that way, but I just had the desire to get a bit closer to a simulation-like approach

[quiet breach]

what is max manaforge vandals renown rn?

[teal pine]

13 pretty sure

12 or 13 whichever one gives 3% damage

[sullen dove]

true

[fading sky]

Best statement of the day

[celest halo]

So I’m fairly new to fury. When in aoe, does it matter much if my whirlwind is casted when I’m enraged? Or is it okay to have enraged fall off, whirlwind, and then rampage?

[fading sky]

Ideally it shoulndt, but u deffo rather ww, than st ramp

[celest halo]

Wait shouldn’t what?

Be casted outside of enrage?

[sullen dove]

you should usually be enraged when you whirlwind in like, normal gameplay but sometimes that might not happen if ramp isn’t the final button you consume a stack of meat cleaver with or some mech forces you off a mob, like whirlwind > ramp > rbx3 > whirlwind should still be enraged here but maybe it’s not if you have to move off mobs for a second or two or somethin

regardless not really worth thinking about should always just hit ww if you need to hit ww whether you’re enraged or not, just def don’t hit any raging blows without enrage up

[radiant yarrow]

may i check if sudden death execute is priority cast when compared to rampage with more than 105 rage and raging blow (assuming you are still enraged and outside of bladestorm raging blow prio)

[smoky vale]

it is if 2 mfe jug fall sd fall or 2 sd

[radiant yarrow]

so practically as long as SD weak aura prompts me. that is prio right ?

[smoky vale]

in single target yes

[radiant yarrow]

what about aoe ?

[smoky vale]

jug fall 3 mfe

[radiant yarrow]

sorry i am new to fury. what does this mean?

[smoky vale]

ashen juggernaut

marked for execute

[warm crag]

ashen juggernaut is about to fall off or you have accumulated 3 stacks of the marked for execution debuff on the opponent

[high sedge]

whats the 57 thing

[smoky vale]

my username

click me

[warm crag]

my name was changed to it i had no input

[remote bobcat]

you uncultured swine

[smoky vale]

@clever belfry

@gleaming siren

[remote bobcat]

@clever belfry

yo gio

whats more geared

[warm crag]

gala

[remote bobcat]

ur dk or ur warr

[smoky vale]

even

same ilvl

warrior more bis

[remote bobcat]

[high sedge]

that was alot of information

[clever belfry]

@remote bobcat get help

[smoky vale]

i was progging fg 19for 3 hours

[remote bobcat]

help me please

[clever belfry]

i don't know what fg is

[clever belfry]

how so

[remote bobcat]

idk u said get help

im here to seek help

[smoky vale]

floodgate 19

[clever belfry]

logoff19

[smoky vale]

i miss her

[remote bobcat]

[flat river]

you too?

@remote bobcat more proof that me and @smoky vale are the same person

[remote bobcat]

[flat river]

[sour frigate]

[pure tapir]

bad?

why cant i use emotes in this server

[plush zephyr]

warriors can’t have nice things

[pure tapir]

police state

[plush zephyr]

makes us better

Are we getting something today? Update wise?

[pure tapir]

idk bud

[remote bobcat]

depression

[plush zephyr]

8 hours

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-are-they-doing-eric-cartman-south-park-s12e13-elementary-school-musical-gif-22818959

[junior oyster]

Just the Legionfall bit of LegionRemix

so more mogs, but shrug

[hardy vault]

Hey ! Roughly how many pulls to kill Dimensius on mythic for a guild that killed Nexus King in a bit over 300 pulls, 450 (*1.5) ?

[eternal sundial]

Progstats.io

[remote bobcat]

entirely depends on if ur wipes came from p1 dogshit or lack of p3 prep.

[bitter palm]

hi phil can u order something i will drive 6 hours to come pick it up

[hardy vault]

On nexus ? p1 dogshit

[remote bobcat]

so your p3 prep was good?

dimmy is a prep based fight, more so than nexus king

[hardy vault]

meh but okay

[remote bobcat]

you can have same amount of pulls

if every person preps well

i am NOT saying

raidlead prep

im saying

individual player prep

[hardy vault]

okay, thanks !

[bitter palm]

kronzer75 always prepared i heard

[remote bobcat]

i mean i asked to get benched on dimmy, then last 3 raidnights i had to jump in and play cuz people were absent and i performed

i was not a slacker by any means

i'd call that prep

[eternal sundial]

Garradan ass mf

Big truck

[hardy vault]

what is the most difficult phase after nerf/turbo boost ?

[bitter palm]

i prep by balling

[remote bobcat]

p3 gravities

[bitter palm]

then get benched cause i die to mechanics

[remote bobcat]

imo

[bitter palm]

not even mechanics i just dont know whatever strat we are doing

like i got assigned seeds on fyrakk

and i didnt even know what seeds were

[remote bobcat]

i feel u dawg

[bitter palm]

cba

way too much effort to wipe cause some monkey cant move

[bitter palm]

🐐 stuff only

[remote bobcat]

btw the issue with dimmy is that every phase needs prep. every phase has micromovements with relevance. Both for ranged and melee. p3 is extremely hard due to tanks having to play a diff game basically ignoring every single raidlead call

dimmy isnt that hard individually

its just..

do u know ur shit? yes?

you win.

[bitter palm]

thoughts on dimmy

i didnt play the fight on mythic

[remote bobcat]

the worst fight ever designed

in modern wow

ok "ever" is a bit harsh

but

it's a very bad fight

[eternal sundial]

I thought court was pretty shite no exp on dummy

Quit the game

[remote bobcat]

• 2x forced run away from must-kill adds mechanics
• parries you in p1 for no fucking reason
• dimmy p1 hitbox is dogshit
• intermission where you can't play your character is objectively bad design
• intermission after p2.2 when you still get winds takes a billion years feels like shit and ruins timings for no reason
• warrior specific: you cannot charge dimmy p1 you have to step back to charge in
• warrior specific: you sometimes cannot charge dimmy p3 you might have to step back to charge in
• you get punished for flying fast on dimmy
• during prog its objectively good hold damage (this is objectively bad)
• p2.2 miniboss is the worst enemy to fight that I have ever seen in my life on god
• differing flight times and p2 platform shit causes you to never have good cd timings, specifically relevant for 1.5min classes that dont hold cds. It's just semi random
• shit fight to parse on due to differing intermission timings
• p3 goes from giga chill nothing is happening to giga hectic the world is burning back to chill back to world is burning but a bit more (i personally don't like this)
• if a single tank is bad the fight is hell to prog

thats all i could think of off rip

god this fight sucks

so frustrating

but thats why i just started turning raidlead volume down and singing while progging

https://warcraftrecorder.com/link/ff3456a7-f234-4a93-8c92-5c55cabb5938

well i guess this try it was more about humming than singing but alas

[balmy shore]

i like dimensius

[high sedge]

p3 dimmy is the most nerfed phase with ilvl and %

guilds rn barely get to the hard part of p3

[balmy shore]

p3 kinda just falls over it’s crazy

[high sedge]

ye rn good dmg amp and decent follow up after that

and boss just dies ?

[balmy shore]

i think the worst boss this xpac is one arm bandit and it’s not even close

[high sedge]

nah

gally was something else, heck even stix was worse

[balmy shore]

gallywix kinda just fell over too tho

[high sedge]

like 5min of patchwerk on the last boss of a tier

bruh

[balmy shore]

oh stix sucks but bc we had terrorists

[high sedge]

ye

frac too 💀

[balmy shore]

i just rly liked dimensius a lot i think i loved this raid tier in general

[high sedge]

dimmy was a good prog feeling

[balmy shore]

it was def one of the most satisfying kills

[high sedge]

tho we had to hold dmg a bit

[balmy shore]

hold dmg always cringe

but every pull didn’t feel like a slog

[high sedge]

even b4 turboboost we had to hold

[balmy shore]

ya

[high sedge]

hold p1 hold platforms

[coarse nest]

What is the purpose of hold damage?

[balmy shore]

we held from start of prog maybe only didn’t have to hold a handful of times

cd timings

[high sedge]

have 1.30

[balmy shore]

for the dmg amp

[high sedge]

for each platforms

and dmg amp

[balmy shore]

i think usually platform dmg was w/e

[high sedge]

damage checks were kinda close

[balmy shore]

the dmg amp tho was v important

[high sedge]

especially p2.2

[balmy shore]

we had a .01% pull it was heartbreaking

[coarse nest]

Oh holding cd for the damage amp

Yeah we did that

Prism users rip

[balmy shore]

oh 0.1%*

14mil it was tragic

[high sedge]

2min users in shambles

during prog

[undone flower]

It is a dogshit fight to parse, but if you don’t care about parses, it is fun for me

[coarse nest]

Well we have to hold too

Atleast avatar

[undone flower]

Hold reck

[balmy shore]

i don’t think u should ever rly care about parses on prog anyway and like anyone who’s done the fight knows that it depends on how you push

so tbh it’s w/e

[coarse nest]

No reason to hold reck tbh

[undone flower]

Reck is avatar and avatar is reck

[coarse nest]

Atleast not that I could tell looking through lorrgs

[undone flower]

You can avatar + reck the p2.2 and hold the second reck

[remote bobcat]

gally was a well designed fight, just undertuned

[high sedge]

no?

p1 was good

but after that

void

[balmy shore]

i didn’t mind gallywix

[coarse nest]

[undone flower]

It is a good boss but lacked a phase or hp

[remote bobcat]

gally last phase is less interesting than p1 yes but its not a bad phase it's just a fractillus type phase thats it. It's fine for a phase to be like that.

[high sedge]

yeah lacked a phase

but there is nothing to p2

you just walk away when he fires

and walk in

[remote bobcat]

you didnt play bombs and it shows

[undone flower]

It is my thinking on it, maybe I’m wrong

[high sedge]

i did play bomb

bruh

[remote bobcat]

idk your argument that you felt gally lacked something doesnt mean its a bad fight

or poor design

its just not "as good"

[undone flower]

@coarse nest Avatar (in my case) comes back near the end of the amp, but since I have reck on start…

[remote bobcat]

dimmy is an actively shit fight

in so many ways

[high sedge]

idk for me an endboss cannot be more than half patchwerk

[remote bobcat]

dimmy p3 is lowkey just patchwerk now too

shrugeg

you learn ur positions and thats it

[high sedge]

[remote bobcat]

Regardless

[undone flower]

I agree it is not a satisfying fight to farm

[remote bobcat]

you wish gally was more memorable

and had a better phase

but thats not comparable to active dogshit

it just isnt

[undone flower]

Active dogshit is stix

[remote bobcat]

stix is active dogshit

dimmy is active dogshit

like

fractillus is lame

but its not dogshit

gally is lame

[high sedge]

what fights do you like

[remote bobcat]

but not dogshit

[undone flower]

Dimmy is nowhere near stix

[remote bobcat]

nexus king

was good

sprocket was good

kyveza was good

[undone flower]

NK might be my fav fight of TWW, or sprocket

[remote bobcat]

I liked vectis on uldir

i liked opulence

in BoD

[undone flower]

Kronzo… not everyone is old like us

[high sedge]

prog NK kinda goated

[remote bobcat]

bro im 24

i aint that old

tf

[undone flower]

Talking about 7 years ago bosses

[remote bobcat]

yea

where problem

[high sedge]

mugzee i liked too but percs of me being able to jump out of cages

[undone flower]

Jaina was such a good end boss

[remote bobcat]

i liked mugzee a decent bit but it was frustrating for my guild cuz new players joined every other ID

nah jaina was cinematic but it has similar issues dimmy has

what the fuck is that intermission

what the fuck is p1

[undone flower]

Mug is = middle ground boss for me

[remote bobcat]

ghuun was better than jaina

on god

[undone flower]

Mug is a boss I will forget bc not memorable in good or bad

[remote bobcat]

and ghuun required 4 locks

[high sedge]

ansurek goated fight too

[remote bobcat]

ansurek was goated for fury warr burst ye

I think ansurek is a fight that just feels good because fury was fun

[high sedge]

wasnt playing fury still had a blast

[remote bobcat]

fair enough

[undone flower]

I killed it in January, so it was not that great of a fight at this point

[remote bobcat]

we killed it like 2 attempts after nerf

Sadge

[coarse nest]

Mugz goated fight

My expansion favorite tbh

[undone flower]

I prefer silken court over other nerubar bosses

[remote bobcat]

https://warcraftrecorder.com/link/ff3456a7-f234-4a93-8c92-5c55cabb5938

im the goat

[remote bobcat]

silken court was cool yea but people would get very frustrated when mates didnt get it yet

ykwim?

[high sedge]

i have my kill vod somewhere but its not cut properly

[undone flower]

Idk I’m used to dance fight prog, so I’m more immune to that frustration

I like dances (if they are not omnipresent like ff14)

I like red/blue split in wow

Or ghuun last phase

[gleaming siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/789342812507471872/1298273290430971935/Terrorist.gif

[remote bobcat]

this ur crosshair?

[gleaming siren]

I stopped using it

But yes

[undone flower]

After 5 kills you unlock an airstrike

And a crosshair appears

[earnest canyon]

That crosshair would annoy the shit out of me

[remote bobcat]

good.

[gleaming siren]

It's unironically not that bad

And helps if you ever lose your cursor 🤷‍♂️

[high sedge]

ye ok you have a point

[gleaming siren]

I initially had it for Tindral prog when placing gate

[earnest canyon]

Ur a warlock?

[gleaming siren]

Cause Tindral had so much shit going on visually it was hard to keep track sometimes

I'm many things

[remote bobcat]

i dont ever lose my cursor with the generic ultimate cursor weakaura

[gleaming siren]

Warlock, Warrior, Evoker

[undone flower]

You forgot warriors are the minority in this channel

[gleaming siren]

Washed on all

[earnest canyon]

No, yes, hell no

[remote bobcat]

dont worry @smoky vale is here to clean off the rust

[undone flower]

Warlock is half warrior

[remote bobcat]

meh

i never liked warlock being called warlock

like just call the class witch, occultist, oathbreaker, hexcrafter, curser, etc

shrugeg

[earnest canyon]

shit mage is a good name for it

[bleak solar]

Looking to get a little bit of insight. I've simmed my character, done stat weights (I know not accurate), and done Top Gear sims and everything points to the fact that I should be stacking Vers. My gems, my reshi, and my enchants. This just feels counter-intuitive to me with how Mastery works. Is there a break point for Mastery? Crit - 14%(4,491) Haste - 36%(20,487) Mastery - 70% (28,723) and Vers - 8% (6,006) https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/kelthuzad/ochron/

[languid willow]

I think I’m sitting 22k mast 20k haste 2k crit snd 17k vers

As far as breakpoints go everytime I have any gear over like 23k mastery vers starts to push over mastery. No definitive breakpoints tho have been stated tho

[bleak solar]

Guess I'm not the only one then. Guess I'm going to go rejem and enchant

[fading sky]

Me at 28k mastery

[bleak solar]

appreciate it

[fading sky]

Man i almost kept up with a fury warrior in a 17 flood, me playin arms..

I rly do think furys profile is so much better 😁

[iron portal]

Cause it is

https://tenor.com/view/mic-drop-iphonedo-smile-gif-12713472

[polar narwhal]

You could start by enchanting your off-hand

You've a bit too much Mastery imho. Vers would benefit you more.

[hazy cedar]

When do I want to press slam on st?

[polar narwhal]

When you've got nothing else to press.

[hardy cargo]

I think slam might still be worse damage than ww even without the talents now

[warm crag]

literally just a sim question ya

[hollow leaf]

There are breakpoints for all stats due to deminishing returns, that's something your sim takes into account so it's nothing you need to think about

[undone flower]

It was a 2k dps gain when I compared my logs to others in S2 before the buffs to ww

Since I never pressed slam as fury in TWW

Since the buffs in 11.1.5 I think slam is just dead in every situation for fury / why it is deleted on alpha

[earnest canyon]

What is French for slam

[undone flower]

i think it is heurtoir if i remember, i don't play with the game in french

[hardy cargo]

goodbye heurtoir and hello wirbelwind

[earnest canyon]

🤣

[earnest canyon]

Isn't a tourbillon a watch mechanism?

[undone flower]

idk shit about watch, tourbillon is also the movement the water does when you empty your sink

a vortex in english

[clever path]

hey guys, new fury here - i watched some movies and read the guide but im a bit confused:
aoe: after i pressed my enrage bladestorm i press 2x times raging blow for the bigger rampage but im already capped at fury?
normally i just press rampage if rage is >115 right? even without raging blow stacks?

[undone flower]

after bladestorm in both ST and AoE : you press raging blow until you can't anymore (watch out for ww stacks/execute), and more general in AoE, there is 2 possible rotation either you : spam RB>rampage at 115, or you follow the regular rotation from wowhead

[clever path]

so even if i would cap some rage, i just stack the RBs before rampaging in general?

[undone flower]

line 9 is your specific question

so you don't care about rage cap since it is above rampage with > 115 rage

[clever path]

ahh got it now - thank you!

[undone flower]

everything above 10. means you do it whatever your rage amount (in general)

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/miare-tornado-kid-run-gif-11773804

[coarse nest]

Can blizzard put remix on its own servers already stg

https://tenor.com/view/kid-en-sacrement-regard-de-feu-gif-15231722216266444049

[stark minnow]

any tips on how to perform decently in SoulHunters Mythic fight? I am not doing well at all in that fight

[coarse nest]

If you’re asked to hit the vengeance you’ll have slightly worse cleave potential, it lags behind when the other two leap off*

Try to Bladestorm all 3 targets as much as possible

I tend to get BS back right before the intermissions end so I will hold those BS for all 3 targets to pile back up

[smoky vale]

@gleaming siren meow

[stark minnow]

I have to pick up the first Devourer's ire (i think its called this, the black puddle on floor at start and then pass it on to a specific person, fucking sucks i know) and then 1 of the 3 fractures that drop from tank. so a bit of dps loss

[stark minnow]

ty for the tip

[wary maple]

You bois I've been doing Araz multiple times and When I check other warrior parses they always have this huge difference between RB and Rampage in their damage profile but my rampage has higher damage than rb like always, any tip or solution to that fight?

[sullen dove]

ainnoway is your group like 10 melee and u don’t have enough ranged

or are they lazy

do u only do that once a fight it sounded like or all the time, if its once maybe not the worst but if ur ever just out soaking puddles mid fight then yea gg

but otherwise yea it’s good to save a bladestorm after intermission bosses come down but you can use one within like 10sec before they fly up tho cuz intermission lasts a while and should be able to get it mostly back by the time they stack up, but another strat that I yoinked from the goat is to treat the boss like an m+ pack and spam raging blows until enrage runs out for max reaps even despite overcaping rage, not sure why it felt so good on 3 targets when it seems like it should just be better to do normal gameplay (spending rage) but I randomly went from like a 9mil best kill to like 11mil doing that

there is potential I was just cheeks playing the game normally before

[wary maple]

Also on Soul Hunter too. Rampage is still my top damage spell with ~17% overall.

[sullen dove]

eh I mean when adds spawn and you bladestorm em u should be spamming as many rb’s as possible to cleave reaps onto them in the very short timespan they’re alive, sometimes they die before you exit the bladestorm anyway

but yea rb does more aoe right after a bladestorm

[smoky vale]

good morning

[sullen dove]

but also what other abilities do you have on soul hunters cuz ramp being 17% and top sounds strange my most recent kill ramp was 15% and reap and rb are 19 and 25% each

[wary maple]

Should I ignore rage cap at this point? Because accross all fights I see my Reap the Storm and Rb are far behind rampage and other parses that Icheck they are way above rampage.

[wary maple]

This is the profile from details.

[pliant obsidian]

souns like you are spamming rampage when it comes up instead of using rb during enrage etc

sounds

[sullen dove]

also do u hit bt a lot

6% seems kinda high

[wary maple]

I just cast it when I am 115 or above.

[sullen dove]

usually im like 3-4

Which isn’t a huge difference but if u take away like 2% bt damage and hit more raging blows for example that’s prolly worth a lot more than 2%

regardless I think in aoe atp it’s good to spam rb for reaps like m+ since it “seems” to do better on soul hunters, at least felt way better for me

I think I have like double the rb casts of ramp on that guy

[wary maple]

This is my Best araz kill for example. I see huge gap between rampage and Rb on top warrior parses as well.

Should I ignore rage cap here or not.

That's actually what I am wondering about

[sullen dove]

the problem with Araz is it’s very subjective depending on how fast your group deletes adds, where soul hunters is a very static “fair” fight

If you just used bladestorm on adds u should def only spam raging blows ignoring rage cap but making sure you’re enraged to cleave as many reaps as possible

which is kind of what u already do in single target anyway

but I think it’s when u don’t have bladestorm that it kinda doesn’t matter whether u rb or rampage adds

[wary maple]

Alright, I was doing good in m+ with fury but I am struggling in Aoe Raid bosses and it's driving me nuts.

[sullen dove]

both presumably do about the same damage tho u might luck into a reap or 2 spamming rb

yea I mean forgeweaver is just terrible

soul hunters should be a bit more easy to copy what someone else is doing on logs and emulate that for good results

but if ur doing a bunch of mechs like the purple orb for instance unless its a one time at the start of the fight thing yea that’s kind of cooked I think almost no warr in the game has done that

unless u truly don’t have the ranged to handle it yourselves

picking up some fractures tho isn’t a big deal I think I can almost always get the middle one without going off boss

[wary maple]

Nah it was all good, I was focusing duskblaze in this fight as well to avoid blade dance hence lower Reap and Rampage are understandable.

[sullen dove]

and if I am off boss it’s for like a econd

[coarse nest]

Wait they are making you do that as melee?? That is total ball sack

My condolences

[wary maple]

Adarus sometimes is a bit far for a few seconds. But Araz I am stomped. that difference in rampage and rb doesn't exist for me across all kills.

[sullen dove]

yea I like always focus ilyssa cus we have other clowns focusing duskblade and then he’s like 1bil ho lower than the other 2

and I don’t want to fight 2 target boss for half a minute

I think more than rb just try to focus on getting the right bladestorms on the right adds there

like if u can bs every set you’re supposed to slamming rb after that should come sorta naturally

but I think u can do first add, second add, fourth and 6th add

with bladestorms

[pliant obsidian]

i am just on normal soulhunters but from what i am hearing you guys doing it on mythic seem to keep all 3 bosses together?

[sullen dove]

although 2nd add set I have to soak the thing so it’s a little cringe I bladestorm em when they’re like half dead

o yea ofc I mean you’d want to do that on every difficulty

No real reason not to they’d die way faster it just isn’t like a “requirement” at lower diffs cuz the bosses won’t ever enrage on you

But two of the bosses jump away a bunch so sometimes you’re only fighting 2 or 1 at a time

[wary maple]

yeah I presumably bs the adds whenever I can over there, I hate to rage cap myself and not cast rampage and I think I have to do that in that bossfight.

on those burst windows on adds.

[sullen dove]

yea I mean it’s even the like ideal single target action to spam rbs coming out of a bladestorm until enrage falls off so u get a buffed ramp, but you do it on aoe for a diff reason than the rampage it just also happens to like up with it

but in aoe much like m+ you just spam rbs while enraged for as many reaps as possible

all the mobs need to have overwhelmed on them tho from bladestorm which is why not as big of a concern on non bs packs

[wary maple]

thanks for the insights pal. appreciated

[sullen dove]

[pliant obsidian]

for maximum aoe before bs in the rotation do you go charge reck/av ww ram thunder then bs with as many rb's as possible?

does ww need to be there to get the cleave from melee abilities?

[sullen dove]

yea you want to have ww up before you start raging blows

you can like ww mid charge so the last hit or 2 of it still hits the mob and procs the stacks, should work most of the time

but idk the main things to keep track of is ww stacks and enrage timer, only hit raging blow if you have both up, and mainly just refresh enrage/ww when u need to or if you run out of rbs

also want to hit execute when u see the 3 mfe stacks cuz you do need some amount of cdr in m+ and to have used 3 sudden deaths for imminent demise to make next bladestorm stronger ready for next pack

[charred flint]

Yes

[pliant obsidian]

in that same aoe rotation when i get the idol do i cast idol after reck/av but before ww?

[coarse nest]

Press charge bind and then immediately press idol bind

[pliant obsidian]

before reck /av?

[coarse nest]

Yes

[pliant obsidian]

ok

[coarse nest]

I like to WW before the first BS too

That way when you’re building slaughtering strike stacks they’re cleaving and have a higher chance to proc reap

[pliant obsidian]

thats what i do too but with idol i might have to hit bloodthirst first to get enough rage to use rampage

[coarse nest]

So it’s like
Charge+idol > ww as you hit the mobs > Ava+reck + roar > rampage > BS

The WW and auto attack and roar will be enough rage to rampage right away

That’s why I do it like that

[pliant obsidian]

yea your rotation is much better i agree

lol nice something to practice when i get on i was using reck/av to early in the rotation thats gotta be a dps improvement alone

[gaunt loom]

is there a weakaura that makes the whirlwind buff decrease by 1 on the first hit of rampage?
on mine, it decreases on the last hit for some reason, and it’s really confusing.

[coarse nest]

Yes sec

https://wago.io/Gjve7Cki9

This one is bar style

If you want icon style you have to ask wahle who would have it I think

[smoky vale]

i think i may have the icon version

someone double check this one

if its not a wa

oops

[gaunt loom]

thank you

[gaunt loom]

thanks!

[gaunt loom]

it's not a bar though

[coarse nest]

Ahh, then I linked the icon version all good

Bar version must be in my notes somewhere else lol

[gaunt loom]

icon is better though

how does critcake always pull such high dps in m+?

i’ve been running 19s and 20s lately, but it feels like it’s been a while since i’ve topped the meters.

is it just normal that frost dks are stronger?

i don’t think i’ve ever managed to beat frost dks, elemental shamans, or beast hunters for first place.

[sour frigate]

tbh fury on par with dk rn

[earnest canyon]

His dad works at blizzard

[fading sky]

I beat dks and shammies often. Great hunters less so🤣

[earnest canyon]

My hunter does insane damage compared to my warr, but it does have better gear and im too smooth brained to optimise positioning on melee really

[fading sky]

The real insanity is the st🤣

Hunters sudenly doin 7.5m on a 3.5m fighta

Pure st

[earnest canyon]

yeah i just did a gambit and I bursted like 12million ST on the dragon with lust, but i did have full quiver stack saved and 18 stacks of prism 🤣

[fading sky]

Still this is what i miss on fury

Burst potential so trinkets like prism are good

Ngl hunter is in a great spot atm

Both profile wise and dmg wise

[earnest canyon]

yeah but i do like on my warrior that I dont get caught out....like on the 2 packs before im doing as much damage as a wet noodle cos DR BM does no damage outside of cds. And even then its still RNG as fuck with how many black arrows you get. Only spec with more RNG is MM hunter which can actually do more than BM theoretically, but the swings between a bad run and a good run are massive.

[fading sky]

Yeah, u cant have great burst potential without being punished🤣

Furys profile i dislikem but obviously the dmg is grest

Great*

I did some keys as arms as well. But arms does in gen less aoe and less st🤣

[stark minnow]

newest player on the team so i get the honor

[stark minnow]

and we have too many melee aparently

[coarse nest]

How many melee?

[stark minnow]

6 i think

[coarse nest]

???

[stark minnow]

i duno dude, i need to look at it again

[coarse nest]

crazy man

feelsbad

[stark minnow]

ill ask the gm, they are reasonable

[undone flower]

I take the first side orb mass on dimmy

[earnest canyon]

turn that frown upside down

[earnest canyon]

arms just feels clunky to me and sucks....even when it did better in M+ i still didnt play it

[stray ledge]

Are servers still down?

[earnest canyon]

eu is fine

[iron portal]

EU always is

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-grin-grins-smiling-gif-13132136

[stray ledge]

Well eu doesn't exist

[iron portal]

Just cause you cant find it on map, doesnt mean it does not exist

[stray ledge]

Eu size of 3 states in the US calm down

[iron portal]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

Oh interesting, Europe in total is bigger than USA

I never knew, that is actually funny

[stray ledge]

1 state

[marble schooner]

Came to see if servers are online yet, this answers my question

[iron portal]

And yet Europe is around same size as USA

[sullen dove]

theyre working rly hard to re release content thats been in the game for 8 years

[iron portal]

not north america ofc, just USA

[sullen dove]

give them credit

it takes 8 hours to launch content that will be cleared in 20 minutes

[marble schooner]

Hey but i think they are enabling like 4 mounts man

[sullen dove]

oh shit

u right

and a couple vendors selling more stuff

nowaying

[undone flower]

Ingame shop rework is taking half the ressources

[modest condor]

cant believe they're keeping down remix because of retail again smh

[iron portal]

At least we have NA that tests it for us

[sullen dove]

whos excited for this to happen in 2 more weeks for argus

really skillful implementation of phases

[undone flower]

Im excited for kiljaeden mythic

[sullen dove]

mandatory 32 hours of extended maintenance in a month and a half for a joke of a gamemode

kj prolly just insta dies idk if u have to do the like blind shadow knockback phase

if u do would be funny

but prolly some nerfed version if there is one

[iron portal]

The entire United States covers about 9.8 million square kilometers.

Europe, meanwhile, covers about 10.2 million square kilometers.

[earnest canyon]

I'm running around with 999% vers that I achieved through pure skill and not mindless grinding while in work meetings or watching shows. I am a literal god with 15million auto attacks.

[iron portal]

Tbh i always assumed that Europe would be much smaller but then again, it is many countries there too

Learn something new everyday

[earnest canyon]

Europe is a pain in ass to live in unless you are in Scandinavia or some eastern European shit hole.

[iron portal]

Elaborate

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-67-67-south-park-67-south-park-6-7-gif-13284396363591354590

[earnest canyon]

Too many people, small houses, crowded roads. When I first went to the US it's so much less stressful from shopping in stores, driving, space in houses etc. You aren't dodging people all the time.

Outside of say NYC and dc. Even la traffic jams were relaxing comparatively lol

[stray ledge]

Well is that eu or the continent of Europe because that's 2 different things lol

[iron portal]

Ofc that Is europe, not EU, but to be fair, your pic also included state that isnt in EU

So you know , just leveling the field

[sullen dove]

also comparing a continent to a country ye would hope europe at least a little bigger

[lilac osprey]

also the pic didnt include alaska the largest US state

[sullen dove]

but then u have australia doin whatever its doin down there

[earnest canyon]

Burning and turning into desert

[sullen dove]

google just said to me europe is the 2nd smallest continent so is either one of australia or antarctica bigger?

theres no way its australia so gotta be antarctica but is it rly that big

kinda wack

[stray ledge]

True but eu is 1.7 million square miles and us is 3.8 million square miles not sure why part of Russia in that number lol

[iron portal]

I did the math

3 988 313

sq Km

is all european union countries combined

[stray ledge]

Though Russia was it's own thing lol

[iron portal]

part of russia is considered part of Europe continent

[stray ledge]

Weird

[sullen dove]

a ton of like eastern countries not included like the yugoslavia bunch yea

and idk if turkey is in europe or if its also like split in the middle maybe

[iron portal]

Yugoslavia bunch are balkans my friend

[stray ledge]

Yeah turkey is also

[iron portal]

That is not east but south

or bit of both

[sullen dove]

eh ive heard it usually as eastern europe from my serbian friend and my family from slovakia but yea more south down there

[smoky vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1313746117535469640/1427500121796382810/Cat_Meow_GIF.gif

[iron portal]

Prob refering to old times of Eastern bloc

But looking at map, cant really call them complete Easterners

[sullen dove]

reserved for r*ssia

[iron portal]

for exemple Croatia, idk but i never called them eastern

[stray ledge]

Can you not type Russia?

[iron portal]

maybe his keyboard broke

[sullen dove]

meme

[stray ledge]

Awe

[sullen dove]

like the ppl that type m*n on twitter

[iron portal]

mon? men? man? min?

[stray ledge]

Man I'm thinking

[iron portal]

God bless me for not having twitter

[stray ledge]

Because they are monsters

Lol to the internet that is

[sullen dove]

hate all men

mondays

garf

[stray ledge]

The internet says I should hate my self

[earnest canyon]

you would say that as a m*n 🤢

[forest python]

Heya lads, quick question. I dont really know what should i pick with the cartel chip this week.
With the first one i got Myth 2H, but i dunno if i should buy Araz weap and swap my crafted items, or should i wait to kill soulhunters and buy boots? (I just started myth prog with a guild and we just killed Araz, Fract next so well take a bit to kill Soulhunters)

This is how my gear looks like rn (ignore the maid Tmog) All myth track except 1 ring, boots and dimi trincket

[charred flint]

yay got a rank 2 on heroic im trully so goated

(dont check mythic pls)

[earnest canyon]

brb, instantly checking mythic because you said not to

[cobalt relic]

gg

[earnest canyon]

ty

[remote bobcat]

wait til you find out that the EU server hosts europe, some parts of asia and all the african nations

[remote bobcat]

gg

[earnest canyon]

same as the EU itself does for people, ha ha ha funny joke

[remote bobcat]

cluegi~1

[sullen dove]

if ur prio is m+ def better trinkets to be had, if ur prio is raid antenna is still usually the best trink there assuming you dont miss too many balls which can sometimes happen on last 3 bosses i think

[forest python]

yeah i was thinking on buying HoA trincket since it never dropped for me and its bis for M+.
I guess antenna is my best choice for raid, I dont know if antenna is simming bad but ive simmed myself and dimi HC is simming more than antenna myth for me in ST

also ive seen the majority of warriors in the top 100 raid are keeping the crafted weapon (i guess 3ilvl isnt that worth)

[sullen dove]

yea i mean for raid especially not really

mostly cuz there isnt really a great 2nd option for other embellishment

like only other real one you could choose is belt but theres like a rly good belt drop and catalyzed belt stats for us

but in m+ people would go double 730s probably for 2 thread embells since they're more likely to be useful in aoe ascendance takes forever to ramp up

[forest python]

then HoA trincket is the best choice i guess, i hope by the time i get the third cartel chip soulhunters myth are adead so i can buy boots

thx a lot lad!

[sullen dove]

yea i mean hoa trink would say is fine if you enjoy the feeling of "more burst" with your cds but some also just dont like the cast time clunkiness and will still prefer passive antenna trink

but i mean eh up to you these are like mostly tiny difference in gains in any of the content

so can ball however u may enjoy ballin

[frozen kayak]

What is your opinion on reckless abandon?

[sullen dove]

bad

wish it wasnt

[frozen kayak]

I like how your basic attacks are empowered but it kinda screws with the rotation

Since u want to use the empowered attacks but have to use rampage instead

The other option is better also not as interesting IMO

Thats my biggest gripe with fury actually

[sullen dove]

it just doesnt buff ur shit enough to make up for you having 3x less casts of reck and bladestorm

[frozen kayak]

Also odyns fury doesnt feel as impactful as it should be

The whole bloodthirst focus on the left side of the tree is just..m weird?

I guess u want to go bloodthirst focus for mountain thane?

[sullen dove]

a bit

[frozen kayak]

I donno i feel like mountain thane doesnt really mesh well with this spec

Its perfect for prot tho

Rampage doesnt feel as strong as it should be imo

Its just a rage spender you dump to get enraged

[sullen dove]

still does like 20% of your dmg

[frozen kayak]

Yeah but... its a spender

It should do somewhat more no?

[sullen dove]

idk spender generator kinda means nothing atp

[frozen kayak]

I wish rage gain was reduced but rampage damage and enrage duration increased

[feral ivy]

fastest m0? gambit?

[sullen dove]

yea i mean u can play powerful enrage that sorta does that

[frozen kayak]

I do

[sullen dove]

its bout the same as frenzied i think

[frozen kayak]

With reckless abandon too

[sullen dove]

yea i mean bit more cooked

especially when that talent makes your generators do more damage

so then asking "why is my spender doing less dmg"

[remote bobcat]

gambit and eco dome aldani are the fastest

[sullen dove]

cuz crushing blow bloodbath are doing alot

[frozen kayak]

But theres no talents to buff rampage too

[sullen dove]

u just lose a lot of bladestorms

[frozen kayak]

In the same manner

[sullen dove]

slaughtering strikes

brutal finish

[feral ivy]

do u know if u can spam the same for the quest dinar

[frozen kayak]

Raging blow gets way more buff talents

[remote bobcat]

chatting

just do weekly keys

4x aldani

or gambit

[sullen dove]

just do 4 raid bosses on normal

in like 10 minutes

[remote bobcat]

trash alone takes 10mins

[frozen kayak]

Ravager feels alot more fitting for fury

[sullen dove]

ok then 15 minutes

[feral ivy]

i have raid in hr so just trying to get sac rq

[inner zinc]

they have about the same # of talents associated if we only count the fury tree. Raging blow's talents are just way better

[lone crow]

question for you all, is Heroic antenna better then Mythic Seaforium? I focus on Mythic + mainly and my next cartel chip is going to Mythic Cursed stone idol. I also have a Mythic Sac brood

[frozen kayak]

They are

[sullen dove]

would imagine yes but c4 is like less rng

[frozen kayak]

Rampage needs to be able to be buffed more IMO

[remote bobcat]

sim question

[frozen kayak]

Another problem with reckless abandon i see is, you get so much rage during recklessness that you have to spend it on rampage

But it means youre not using the empowered attacks as much as you could

Its kind of self defeating

[remote bobcat]

yea man current RA sucks we all want s1 RA back

nothin new

[frozen kayak]

What was it like?

[remote bobcat]

every rampage

it empowers

1x bt 1x rb

regardless of recklessness

[frozen kayak]

Thats MUCH better

And flows so much better

[remote bobcat]

so what u did was

rampage -> cb -> bb -> rb -> repeat

[frozen kayak]

Honestly just decouple it from recklessness

[remote bobcat]

with execute conditions

[frozen kayak]

Rampage says it empowers raging blow in its description

Did they forget changing it?

[remote bobcat]

huh

[frozen kayak]

Yeh

[remote bobcat]

but yeah

[inner zinc]

pretty sure atm it says recklessness empowers RB&BT

[remote bobcat]

blizz said that gameplay is bad

now RA is even worse

[sullen dove]

i mean its the same gameplay as now

[remote bobcat]

shrugeg

[sullen dove]

you just dont hit bt ever

instead of cb bb rb

[frozen kayak]

No i hovered over rampage and it said it there

[sullen dove]

its rb rb rb

[remote bobcat]

yea but also

we hella spin

[inner zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413197405561819256/reaptech.gif

[remote bobcat]

raging blow -> reap

bt -> reap

bladestorm

spin spin spin

shrugeg

[frozen kayak]

Bladestorm is weird on fury

[inner zinc]

Bladestorm is glorious on fury you mean

[frozen kayak]

Cant explain why

It feels more fitting for arms

[sullen dove]

only significantly bad thing about it is overcapping like 300 rage during it

but otherwise fury should def be spinning with 2 swords

[inner zinc]

nothing that fits for arms that doesnt also fit for fury

[frozen kayak]

Maybe

[bitter palm]

ye but then u just perma capped

[frozen kayak]

What do u think about odyns fury and onslaught?

[bitter palm]

like every single time ra was viable

[inner zinc]

underwhelming, both of them

[bitter palm]

not viable but optimal

[frozen kayak]

Yeah :/

[bitter palm]

u would giga cap rage

to spam bb/cb

9.2 cb spam 10.0 cb spam

[sullen dove]

odyns gonna be good next xpac

[bitter palm]

10.2 bb spam

[bitter palm]

cluegi

[inner zinc]

ill believe it when i see it

[sullen dove]

that was peak gameplay

[frozen kayak]

I hope midnight will fix RA

[sullen dove]

i mean as good as it was is questionable

but like we are going to be talenting into it and hitting it

unless they change tierset

and itll ahve cdr

so itll probably be good enough

[frozen kayak]

The entire left side of the tree is just weird

Like this many talents just for bloodthirst?

I guess if u want SMF u have to spec into it somewhat

[cobalt relic]

all gg

[earnest canyon]

are u excited for legion phase 3

[olive wraith]

Make warrior

[earnest canyon]

Gregg is on the case

[cobalt relic]

no

excited for title tho

[earnest canyon]

bg

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-meme-hoppers-gif-3427294982830013600

[earnest canyon]

what tile

title

[cobalt relic]

cutoff

[earnest canyon]

oh M+?

[cobalt relic]

yy

[earnest canyon]

whats ur rio

[cobalt relic]

3,936

[earnest canyon]

wtf

give me some

[cobalt relic]

need hoa and ara 21

and im done i think

[earnest canyon]

as fury or tanking?

[cobalt relic]

fury ofc

[earnest canyon]

that is some crazy shit

[cobalt relic]

all pugs too

no team

[earnest canyon]

what do you usually do overall

[cobalt relic]

idk it depends on dungeon

[earnest canyon]

yeah ok, what about "at least

[cobalt relic]

and buffs etc

[earnest canyon]

im normally around 8mil

[earnest canyon]

holy goddamn christ....and I just thought u were anime gg guy

well played

[cobalt relic]

thats nothing tbh

farover does insane dmg

[young swan]

gillneas..

[cobalt relic]

farover>>

[sullen dove]

full team player

snoozefest

[sullen dove]

gillneas in the trenches

also all stars for m+ lole

[cobalt relic]

is dmg only

not points

[sullen dove]

yea

[coarse nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ueBmvyQER7otzbnnUSckAE

ayyyee

need socket

gg

[cobalt relic]

do u get anything for title btw

mount or sm

or is it only achievement

[coarse nest]

you get a title

[cobalt relic]

well that's lame

[earnest canyon]

ur title is "Mrs Silencee"

[cobalt relic]

holds no vakue anymore ig cuz of tip meta

value

[cobalt relic]

I'm a man dang it

[earnest canyon]

No u arent its 2025

[cobalt relic]

alriiightyy

[olive wraith]

Gg

[cobalt relic]

@olive wraith ggwp

I better get my chestpiece tmrw

still sitting on heroic

[sullen dove]

goat knee ass

[ocean ore]

haven't played in long ass time, is there any downside to just macroing avatar with recklessness

[lean heart]

can anyone do legion assault on remix i dont see them on map

[trim hound]

not really, just make recklessness go first in the macro so you get double rage from avatar and it's a good idea to have a separate button for reck aswell

[ocean ore]

So the old rule i think was only pop avatar when reck is up. Still the case?

[radiant yarrow]

hi guys, simming my dinar weapons now. raidbot is asking me to get emberbrand (high haste, vers) instead of mastery weapons. Is this because of mastery cap? (currently at 23k mastery and ard 20.5k haste w/o food/flask/etc) ( can only choose 1 weapon, currently 1 is photon sabre)

Also for trinket m+. I got antenna from vault. Have plexus trinket and seaforium. thinking of dinaring either Cursed stoned or ara sac brood (based off archon/murlok top players)

Would like some advice

My raidbots sim for reference. Thank you in advance. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aHZ5bRuyM5rjjbtxcjNuk7

[pearl sequoia]

youd likely sim a mastery weapon if your neck was haste vers

circuitbreaker simming 1k below 2x emberbrand, id just pick it up anyways

[radiant yarrow]

my current stat with a heroic emberbrand (haste vers weap)

just afraid my vers will be vry low

[pearl sequoia]

see what recrafting neck to haste verse does

[radiant yarrow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ca6CM3Y6MB8KG5rFniFKN3

this is the report with recraft neck haste vers/mastery vers (base is haste mastery)

i cant get 2 weapons so either emberbrand or circuitbreaker

my other weap is photon

highest seems like its gonna be photon + brand + recraft haste vers

[pearl sequoia]

well i guess for ur setup just go with the 2 embers

can always change enhchants to accomodate stat shifts with new gear

[radiant yarrow]

cant get 2 weap tho

i can only dinar 1 sadly

[pearl sequoia]

o

[radiant yarrow]

saving 1 for once SH dies to get the boots

i am using troll boots rn haha

smth interesting i just learned (as a new fury player) i never knew u could use 2 same weapon haha

[pearl sequoia]

if it doesnt say Unique-equiped u can have 2 yea

just go with a myth ember to replace ur heroic one now anyways

[hallow sphinx]

atleast xan still loves me :' )

[pearl sequoia]

u already have a 2nd myth track weapon so i wouldnt even be that pressed about gettiung a second ember

probably a better m+ trinket

[radiant yarrow]

cursed stoned idol

[pearl sequoia]

yup

arcano is poo for m+ so that would be nice

[radiant yarrow]

does weapon being on main hand or off hand make any diff?

[pearl sequoia]

with ilvl yes but with 2 730 myth no

[radiant yarrow]

ah got it

tq so much for ur help

[chilly fractal]

Higher ilvl always on MH beyond that doesn’t matter

[radiant yarrow]

i am thinking get 1 weapon

see if SH dies in 1 - 2 weeks

if it dies get boots

if not get trinket

[pearl sequoia]

[charred flint]

why top logs of Dimensius dont use avatar for like p2?

[pearl sequoia]

Probably saving for burn, I’d imagine cd timings are scuffed with more power atm

[radiant yarrow]

my friend is tellign me to try and get the hard mode weap (high crit/vers) and save dinar for stone idol and boots instead. What do u think?

I am afraid it iwll fk my stats up.

[pearl sequoia]

if you can find a group and complete it i guess theres no harm in trying for the wep

[languid willow]

what are max ST sims looking like fully geared?

[radiant yarrow]

wont my stats be like super high crit cos of it >:

altho i checked sim and its like 40k diff from emberbrand

[pearl sequoia]

if u did get the free myth wep then it wont matter if u have worse stats

better trink with boots would sim higher over a different stat weapon

[radiant yarrow]

ah got it

also for the talent for power enrage and haste enrage

what is the reason to bring either for m+

[pearl sequoia]

more haste you get more spinny

im not huge into m+ but i think u just run the frenzied

its also better for ST on bosses

[sullen dove]

goat knee ass

[hallow sphinx]

If only the world knew the torment I go through in every HOA run

[sullen dove]

inquisitor sigar aura farms

[earnest canyon]

En anglais por favor senpai

[languid willow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vt6G9DZf9cuJHmxanGMWGr my life not having dimmy trinket rip

[charred flint]

Dimensius is such an unfun fight

[woven valley]

Whaaaat you mean you don’t enjoy flying in the middle of an already stressful fight?

No way get outta town

[pearl sequoia]

pretty hard to design a boss as big as stormwind

[sudden trellis]

Just had a quick question with my chip drop.. minus the trinkets cause i cant get those on mythic / the boots .. should i actually grab the 2 hander with crit/vers? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bPzjqpqwXjf8nmv8ksH3i7

[earnest canyon]

Unless we got made giant too, he ain't as big as stormwind

[pearl sequoia]

if u dont expect to get other better gear i suppose, short term vs long term

[pearl sequoia]

dont ruin my immersion

[sudden trellis]

wont be reclearing for a while so i doubt it unless a wep comes in vault.

[hardy shuttle]

[odd nest]

[cobalt relic]

is EU up

can I get out of bed

[coarse widget]

no

[cobalt relic]

gg

[earnest canyon]

zz