fury

[warm crag]

hooly

[lost saffron]

Holy moly

[restive peak]

Ez clap dawgie

[hazy parrot]

Should we always sync avatar and reck?

[sinful spoke]

KING SHIT

[hazy parrot]

or don't care about syncing?

[sinful spoke]

if possible

depends on timing

[hazy parrot]

okay, so maybe if reck is >20 secs but avatar is up we can send?

[onyx linden]

100% antenna catch is not valid tho, sim with like 20% miss

[compact knot]

disagree

[onyx linden]

btw good to know that buff exists

[compact knot]

yeah a lot of people miss that buff i think

[onyx linden]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/svEzJgJM4N7sybTBwZyKEJ you sim around the same as me with miss included

we dont talk about the 40k diff in racials

[compact knot]

screams is a lot of dps for me

still missing that

i would probably equip screams > antenna though

[onyx linden]

i would use antenna maybe on 2 bosses

[compact knot]

id use it on first 6 of this raid

too much movement on the last 2

[onyx linden]

araz and soul hunters imo

[compact knot]

i mean you pretty much have 100% catch rate on first 6

[onyx linden]

this was with 717 scream on Loomi

[compact knot]

incredibly rng trinket btw

[onyx linden]

dont i know if antenna is better value

[warped gyro]

sacbrood not on the vendor?

[onyx linden]

yea on average its good, if you highroll its insane

[compact knot]

oh you notice if you lowroll though

[onyx linden]

thats pretty rare, but yea you do xd

[compact knot]

nah its not that rare for me

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2JPchVG8XZ1HRjMw?fight=3&type=damage-done&source=12

look at this

[onyx linden]

oof

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rcWRq3h8jy9DKkNX?fight=38&type=damage-done

this is the polar opposite

[compact knot]

dude what the fuck is your trinket on

[onyx linden]

idk, it wasnt even mythic

[compact knot]

i mean ive had pulls where it has done 11%

[onyx linden]

btw whats the secret on 1st boss

my damage sucks there

[compact knot]

i would have had rank 1 by like 50k dps

[onyx linden]

my 99 there is fcking private xd

[compact knot]

but i chose to not be greedy

and hit a add

then lost rank 1 by 500 dps

this spec is honestly hiddenly rng heavy

not as much as like a DR hunter spec

or a ele shaman

[balmy compass]

Bro yo u are 730 and no ones taking you as a fury warrior?

Im investing lot of time into my fury warrior as my first class spec in wow tww and at 691

so should i reroll to a new alt and start bulding again? 😐

[earnest canyon]

He has a reputation though, don't worry about it

[balmy compass]

is our spec that bad for pugs?

[onyx linden]

i instantly know, if a pull sucks, when i have like 1 execute proc on BL opener for like 20 sec

[balmy compass]

people look for metas only?

[earnest canyon]

Only at high keys.

[pearl sequoia]

not really lol, didnt have trouble getting into 12's for crest farm yesterday

[balmy compass]

hmm

are we getting any buffs for midnight ?

[earnest canyon]

I mean it's alpha...

Way too early to ask that

[sullen dove]

every class in the game is getting nerfed by 10000%

[smoky vale]

hi

[earnest canyon]

Hi Gary

[balmy compass]

i know its wrong to ask in this channel but what is the most braindead meta class who can pugs mostly prefer as a dps, healer or tank

xD

[sullen dove]

either death knight spec been pretty safe last few expansions

mage prolly decent as well

hunter been recently pretty op

[earnest canyon]

Frost dk, bm hunter, shaman, mage... Idk

[sullen dove]

fury still like top 5 there probably

rn at least

[balmy compass]

Im thinking if i should work on a healer because when i look at pugs lot of listings lack healer role for a long time before they go in..healers need more APM and tough to play?

[earnest canyon]

You should play what feels good for you not chase some Meta that can change suddenly with nerfs or buffs

[sullen dove]

idk bout more apm but yea healers r a different skillset

can try it out if u think u like it

but have to be a lot more concerned about the groups hp and knowing when damage is going to come out

[balmy compass]

i don't have a group or friends bro 🙁 so at least in order to enjoy high level content i need to compromise and move to meta for getting invites

[sullen dove]

how high are you even planning at like 691

[earnest canyon]

Join a guild

[sullen dove]

like u can build up to 15's or so probably fine on any spec

but past that unless you know people its prolly alot more of a struggle

[balmy compass]

i know right

[sullen dove]

there def are much less healers and tanks in the game tho

so i mean idk up to you what u wanna try

[balmy compass]

i put slayer fury warrior talents from wowhead season 3 guide

yesterday i tried my first

m0 dungeon with randoms

[sullen dove]

but wouldnt say like "i need to learn healer to be invited to keys"

[balmy compass]

i don't know how to generate logs or read them..but i felt is we dont have a sustaied damage is it?

if raging blow is on cd

and theres no rage

to slap rampage

[sullen dove]

fury is rly sustained dmg

[balmy compass]

we are just idle literally and spam whirlwind?

[sullen dove]

rb and rage are like a few seconds between uses

you can hit bloodthirst or ww or execute

there aresmall periods of low rage and low cds

but just cuz u run into those occasionallydoesnt suddenly mean we have no sustain

[balmy compass]

hmm

[sullen dove]

alternatively we have a lot of sustain because our cooldowns are pretty bad

like we do maybe 20-30% more dmg in our cooldowns vs outside of them

whereas other classes may "burst" a lot higher

and pull like double the dmg they normally do in their cds

[balmy compass]

So Recklessness > Avatar > Rampage > Blade storm > Raging blow > blood thirst > whirlwind

these are pretty much

[sullen dove]

yea basic gist

[balmy compass]

all skills that we can rotate as a fury warrior right

[sullen dove]

executes in there too

[balmy compass]

oh yeah execute and this thunderous roar

[sullen dove]

yea

[earnest canyon]

It's not a complex spec. That's why I like it.

[balmy compass]

exactly i felt it pretty easy but im more looking towards my skill cooldowns action bars in the bottom of screen rather watching the boss yesterday in m0 dungeon 🙁 i died like soo many times.. Need to improve

I put some Luxathos wago in weakauras bbut not helping me much

[sullen dove]

yea i mean just takes time to learn a new spec

youll experience the same stuff on any spec

[lament ocean]

do I drop crafted 727 and go two 730 2h weapons?

[sullen dove]

once u are more familiar with rotation u can sorta hit buttons more at the back of your mind and pay more attention to mechanics and environment and stuff

[balmy compass]

yeah bro

[sullen dove]

you can but would have to craft 2 duskthreads probably

not meaningful upgrade in raid but better in m+ by couple % probably

[balmy compass]

suggesst me some good ui for m+ and raids for weakauras soredish bro

[sullen dove]

idk i use default

[lament ocean]

ok thank you

[balmy compass]

woot

pero

[sullen dove]

the only things i have is like the execute weakaura, a ww stack tracker weakaura and an enrage timer wa

[earnest canyon]

Pero

[winter shoal]

Anyone know of a way to make a macro where it won't use an ability while mounted

[next jacinth]

Any news on if blizzard is going to fix the boost vendors? I don't see sacbrood

[sullen dove]

oh shit hof delve boss achievements

k an actual reason to grind them out now

[compact knot]

mage/shaman/hunter/dk

all 4 are safe classes

[sullen dove]

well hunter and shaman bit more recent

in their comeup

[compact knot]

yeah

[sullen dove]

only like this xpac i think

but mage/dk more constant

rogue also p good most of the time

[compact knot]

this really is the shaman expansion

check season 1 lmfao

season 2 they took a break though

season 3 is just ele

[hybrid yew]

anything to note of fury vs arms in Legion Remix? if all are same item level/power

[sullen dove]

arms prolly scales bit better with crit

[static rock]

I swear rogue just rotates their specs on which one is sh*t, decent and really good. Sometimes one is Sh%t while the other two are great, but there's always a spec to get some love

[sullen dove]

at least it feels like it to me

But I haven’t tried fury in a while

Just spamming cleave/ms tho less brain power than keeping track of ww stacks

also with 100% crit you get so much more cdr on demolish

[hybrid yew]

ooh, that's true

[clever flare]

Does fury struggle to beat specs like pally on low keys? I feel like pallies do so much damage ;_;

[sullen dove]

pallies might have bit better/more frequent burst cds but idk

[clever flare]

my friend who's a pally is just doing ridiculous damage

[hybrid yew]

fury does best in AoE pulls that are like ~5 mobs at a time and are very consistent

[earnest canyon]

they are a burst class, with shit ST...but on low keys you wont beat them if they are poppiing CDs all the time

[hybrid yew]

fury doesnt have explosive burst but damage is very consistent

you will be outdps'd on AoE pulls higher than like 8-10+ mobs, since whirlwind is capped at 5 targets

[sullen dove]

fury can go hard in big packs but yea it’s not a giant spikey burst class

reap does a lot of aoe

[clever flare]

like the first pull im gambit im not even remotely close

hes doing like 25-30mil

im down at 15-18mil

[sullen dove]

yea I mean just need to bladestorm and spam reaps if u can

[clever flare]

by the time everything is dead

[sullen dove]

best u can do, if key lvl too low then u dont have a chance to reap that much

[clever flare]

do you raging blow to get reaps off even if it means capping rage?

[earnest canyon]

Like im playing my hunter mostly now, but for small packs or low keys I play MM, because it has insane burst then falls off. But on higher keys BM just pumps and pumps, but it needs time to ramp, and the bigger the pack the better. MM is capped like fury is too.

[sullen dove]

Ya in huge pulls feel like it’s better

[clever flare]

yea these are 12's, were 3 chesting them

[sullen dove]

Still want to be enraged tho

o 12s not too shabby but yea if giga blasting maybe still can be like thaf

[earnest canyon]

i dont think stuff will long enough

*live

[hybrid yew]

i have the WoW ui keep me informed if im enraged or not, in big AoE pulls i only rampage to enrage and whirlwind raging blow x 3 times to mass reap

[clever flare]

hes doing like almost 9mil overall

its a bit demoralizing

[earnest canyon]

thats really good

[clever flare]

yea hes 723 ilvl with two mythic trinkets

[earnest canyon]

well thats a bit diff lol

[sullen dove]

feel like 9mil isn’t super duper crazy no? Or does the aoe in gambit just fall off that hard

Haven’t done it in a while

[clever flare]

im 721 now

[compact knot]

gambit overall falls off hard

[sullen dove]

ig its only disgustingly sized pad in first half

[compact knot]

i do like 20m dps until the first boss

[earnest canyon]

if he also outgears you and the pulls are huge packs and they dont live that long and hes a burst class.....what do you expect lol?

[clever flare]

oh no hes doing 9mil overall on stuff like floodgate

[compact knot]

then it falls off to like 9-10m

[clever flare]

on gambit he'll be le 8.5mil overall

idk i just see that fury is pumping above pally on log data, but then hes consistently obliterating my damage

makes me feel bad

[earnest canyon]

@undone flower Why are the servers down? Make them come back up!

[slim coral]

I think 9m on FG is kinda low

Should be at like 10+

[clever flare]

and then he'll joke about how pallies arent good

[earnest canyon]

they arent overall

[clever flare]

at least in this key range hes obliterating

are pallies just good in low keys?

[earnest canyon]

they are good at burst

[slim coral]

Pally is decent in keys

Not even close to fury tho

Fury needs high keys so packs live

[earnest canyon]

Thats what im trying to say to him...pala blows his load and the pack is nearly dead. If the key was higher he runs out of steam and fury just keeps going

[slim coral]

Yep

[undone flower]

Idk I logged off

[clever flare]

alright

[earnest canyon]

So did I because it kicked me off

[clever flare]

yea im just lowkey venting cause i am demoralized

[undone flower]

Why are you demoralized

[earnest canyon]

It's just a computer game....only time I get really demoralised is if we wiped over and over on a boss and make no progress at all. But thats why I only casually do the first few mythic bosses now cos its chill

[clever flare]

getting beat by a pally every single dungeon while him joking about how they arent good, and log data shows fury is ahead of pallies even in mid-range keys

makes me feel like i am doing something wrong or i suck

[undone flower]

Low keys it is harder since we don’t burst

[earnest canyon]

Maybe he is just better too? Doesnt really matter. If hes making you feel bad just dont play with him.

[undone flower]

I did 2 12s today I barely did over 10m because everything dies

[clever flare]

what key?

Im not pushing over 10mil at 721 ilvl

[undone flower]

Ara Kara and ara Kara

[clever flare]

shit dies too fast

[compact knot]

ret is 10x easier to play than fury is in aoe

especially at lower keys

[clever flare]

lol, he jokes that my spec only has 3 buttons

[compact knot]

a spec can be 3 buttons and still be hard

its a knowledge check

[clever flare]

if i am doing something wrong, i am not sure what it would be tbh

[compact knot]

knowing when to use cds can increase dps a ton in m+

ret doesnt have to think

[undone flower]

You can do over 10mil, maybe not in a low key

[compact knot]

you just send on every new pack because they have 30 second cds

ret also already being a extremely easy class rotationally

[earnest canyon]

arcane mage is 3 buttons and some cds, and its the hardest thing ive tried in TWW just because it has so many nuances and procs from procs.....so number of buttons != complexity

[compact knot]

yeah arcane is by far the hardest spec to play in m+

[clever flare]

its only 3 buttons for arcane

[compact knot]

its rotation is easy but it has procs and knowing WHEN to use cds as arcane is actually so important

since arcane uses cds but you take like 12 seconds to actually start doing damage

[slim coral]

Arcane is cringe

Opener so bad

Maintenance rotation is easy

[undone flower]

Yeah number of buttons doesn’t mean anything, other games have 3-4 and same depth

[earnest canyon]

no, timing cds really matters to get max damage....cant remember the names of them....but the one where you do a big damage, the bird comes, then the bird fucks off......THEN you can start doing damage with insta barrages that hit everything

im shit with cds so im terrible at it

[compact knot]

also arcane gains 130% extra damage in execute

if you can time cds with execute your damage sky rockets

so you have a minigame in a minigame

[earnest canyon]

also you have to wear a dress

[undone flower]

https://youtu.be/2z29Rk8814w?si=nU85NW3bqZAnKa7m

[clever flare]

i got that

do you wanna whirlwind before or after bladestorm?

[compact knot]

i think its before

[rigid stirrup]

lads anyone have a vid for dragon riding section on dimmy

[compact knot]

i forgot because i play odyns so i actually odyns before

[compact knot]

are you grabbing a star

[rigid stirrup]

yeah

2nnd set top

but I keep missing the circle by a second

[compact knot]

yikes

making a dps do that mechanic is ehh

[clever flare]

just want to make sure im doing this right

[compact knot]

esp a melee dps

[clever flare]

i think i am

assuming all cds are up, you charge in and pop reckless/avatar

rampage to enrage

pop stone idol, and then bladestorm

im not sure about whirlwind before or after bladestorm though

i do either or, and cant see much of a difference

[rigid stirrup]

I mean I dont mind we're still progging and we're not hurting for damage since we're holding

[compact knot]

its hurt a bit more because if you are holding you want to send instantly on both platforms

if you dont you dont have it up for the damage amp

[tepid cedar]

jsut popped off on a 19 hoa

[rigid stirrup]

yeah I'll figure it out

[compact knot]

hold

dratnos has a video on this

let me find the exact star in the video

its a hour long for some reason

@rigid stirrup https://www.twitch.tv/sanghelioswow/clip/SincerePoliteMoonSmoocherZ-m90fqArRKnOvsSEd

[rigid stirrup]

yeah I looked at the dratty vid and im eitehr blind or didn find the clips

ty ty

[compact knot]

it was in the heroic guide lmao

in the description

but thats the same flight path you take on mythic

[rigid stirrup]

oh

lmao

I figured out I just tried flying throught he wrong circle

[stoic star]

Kinda hard to sim this. Do you all think a Heroic Screams of a Forgotten Sky would be better than a Mythic Arcanocore? 13iLvl difference and i have no plans to kill Mythic Dimensius.

Bloodmallet only shows to 723 vs 717. (Orange to Green)

So im assuming Screams being better at 717 than the 723 Arcanocore.

[sullen dove]

its like barely better and arcano can go up to 730

also depends on the fight

would say arcano far more general since screams p bad on fights where u arent fighting the same target the whole time

and also more valuable the longer a fight lasts which is happening less and less as ppl get more gear

but if u dont mythic raid much then especially not gonna see as much out of screams i think

[stoic star]

if your not mythic raiding past first 3 there isnt really anything else to buy from the Dinar from what I can saee

[sullen dove]

yea not a ton

antenna is good

[stoic star]

Like if you have Heroic Reshi Boots, and all myth gear in the other slots. besides buying M+ trinkets like cursed idol

[sullen dove]

arcano is also fine

[stoic star]

not much else to get

i have myth antenna. guess ill kill first 2 really quick then buy an arcanocore

[sullen dove]

yea i mean if u lookin for a more multipurpose trink like sac whenever they add it to m+ table (if they ever do) is probably similar to an arcano core

arcano most of its value is just strength stat stick with decent ish damage but not the main focus

screams is more unfortunate cuz all of its value lies in the proc which get bad rng/dont do content suited towards it its worse

it can like operate in m+ maybe but think just the strength buffing your own dmg worth more almost all of the time

[rocky locust]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jXoeyVYoq5VW69Zzj5W3zY
What are we thinking? Progging Mythic raid is my main focus. I still do keys every week, but only 12-14.
BiS weapon has Leech, and I could maybe buy ISP with Dinars. So I'm thinking weapon.

[chilly fractal]

Finally got through Nexus King

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-boy-cowboy-gif-10666429685024450065

[bronze snow]

Sooo no sacbrood on the turbo boost vendor?

[woven valley]

Nope, also vendor is broken for a lot of people

Showing they don’t have 12s done when they do

Including myself

[restive peak]

It's possible it gets fixed

[woven valley]

I would hope so

Seeing as it’s a huge oversight

[clever path]

Someone said you can convert small crests into gilded, is this cap, if not how do i do it

[woven valley]

Vendor in dorn right beside the upgrader

It’s been a thing all xpac lol

[clever path]

Came back S3, no option to do it, google says transmutation quest, no quest, going in circles

[woven valley]

Do you have the achievements for hitting certain ilvls? Iirc you need those to be able to upgrade crests

[clever path]

718

all hero 4/8

No quest

Maybe 720

[woven valley]

Not sure why you couldn’t access the vendor

It gives you the option to either upgrade or downgrade crests

[clever path]

Wait, my belt is still the old belt, so maybe it is that

[devout zodiac]

In raid and outside of bladestorm, are we at any point overcapping rage to spend more raging blows?

[clever path]

Yup was belt kek

[slate dagger]

I'm trying to sim the upgrade I would get from boots, but I need to swap my embellishment from boots to wrist or belt. However, the Gear Compare sim says it's only an 8k gain while droptimizer says it's a 50k gain. How does that even make sense when the droptimizer sim is assuming I lose my second embellishment?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/m7f2ryxGLXkoqHG3ERvExe
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dRegT3v6ZpugozsCMGRH7T

[sullen dove]

cuz gear compare is broken and the boots dont have the 50% boot proc effect

[slate dagger]

how should I sim swapping my embellish from boots to something else then?

[sullen dove]

top gear probably

can presumably add boots through there

but also like, if its 50k dps to drop the embellished boot in the droptimizer without adding the 2nd embell

should prolly be clear that putting the 2nd embell somewhere else is gonna be worth even more dps so if the concern is if u should get boots or not its def a yes

unless ur question is "which piece should I embell" then maybe try top gear

[honest trail]

Hello guys,

Considering all the different phases and target swap, do you still play Forgotten Sky trinket on either Nexus-King and Dimensius mythic, or do the downtime / phases reset stack or don't allow for enough of them to be worth?

Would you either go Arcanocore and Ticking Sac? Or Sacbrood

[signal steeple]

I blindly trust my sims which put screams above other trinkets. It also puts astral antenna above other trinkets, but if you're missing a lot of orbs it's garbage and you should replace it or get better at collecting orbs.

[round badger]

Hello, un guerrier français pour maider svp?

[chrome plover]

stacks dont drop in combat right?

[honest trail]

They don't

So it sounds like a good one on both

[honest trail]

But you sim pure ST

Which is not the case here

Cause of phases and target switch, especially Nexus King

Unless you sim phase by phase

[honest trail]

DM me

[chrome plover]

yep

i think it's just bis everywhere in raid

[honest trail]

I have many trinkets but not this one, might just buy it with Dinars

[honest trail]

I have to check how the stacks work

Are they on ourself or target like Screams?

I wonder if Screams stacks reset on Dimensius from P1 to P3

[fading sky]

doesnt

its supposedly pretty good

[chrome plover]

which?

[honest trail]

For Ticking Sac

[honest trail]

If that's the case yeah

Might go with Screams hero and Ticking Sac mythic

For the last two

[chrome plover]

oh idk

i'll be playing screams + arcanocore on every boss i think

[honest trail]

Well yeah sounds good

I just don't like Arcanocore that much somehow

I also have Sacbrood which is usually good

Sims tells me to play Arcanocore and Sacbrood in pure ST for now but I don't have Screams/Ticking Sac

And since I have nothing to buy with dinars

I wondered what I could try

[earnest olive]

Dinar idol or hero reshii boots. Have myth sacbrood and signet atm

[warm crag]

I am lying for my own entertainment

Fury is very good rn

[topaz wave]

still no sacbrood to buy with dinars?

[remote bobcat]

what do i do with all these trinkets n shit

scrap everything ?

cuz i got 2x touch of malice, 2x terror from below, 1x volatile magics

im kinda capped

[warm crag]

keep for balance changes or dismantle

who cares

[pale lava]

guys

is mage way squishier than fury warr?

[warm crag]

if they dont press buttons yes

if they press buttons they are indestructible

[cobalt relic]

all gg

[iron portal]

Depends. Not sure about every spec of mage
Fury is generally very tanky, we have one of the best short defensives in game and we can heal ourselves consistently. So on rot damage we are really good. But afaik mages can get pretty tanky

Which is funny in itself

[pale lava]

so that's the problem

who would've thought

[pale lava]

I have mythic dimensius P1 in mind

because the mage in my guild is trying to convince me that he's way squishier than me there

[remote bobcat]

fury gets more passive mitigation + more stamina so it feels like we are less frail but in reality, during timed damage events, we die and they dont

(unless they dont press a button, of course)

[warm crag]

you are tankier with less prep since all you do is press spellreflect and ER occasionally and they need to piano everything

but if they piano everything they physically cannot die

[remote bobcat]

^

[pale lava]

while all damage events are telegraphed, you know exactly when you take damage

[remote bobcat]

but also when theres continuous ticking damage, mage ends up feeling frail as fuck cuz u have to piano until everything is on CD and you cant always use CDs cuz of bigger dmg events

yk?

[pale lava]

maybe that was the case during early days but now with so much ilvl it's chill as fuck

[misty sierra]

theres not much ticking dmg in p1 dimmi tho

[remote bobcat]

correct

[misty sierra]

when the soak explodes if mage press shield they are just immune

[remote bobcat]

ur mage is bad

[pale lava]

yeah there isn't a lot and you don't die to it unless your healers are completely afk

[warm crag]

i mean just because you outgear everything doesnt mean you shouldnt be pressing defensives like you press it on early prog

[misty sierra]

the point is, if a sp lives mages should live comfortably

[warm crag]

i still press the exact same defensives as when i killed the boss when i actually had to care about my hp shrug

[pale lava]

of course, it's always good to press them, what I meant is that things aren't as stressful as they used to be

[pale lava]

skyhold has spoken

[iron portal]

If you dont press SR almost on cd, what are you even doing

[remote bobcat]

but honestly this is the problem

he HAS to piano

if he doesnt

he is automatically bad

but most people, including warrs, dont paino def stance + SR

i feel like a unicorn cuz i use def stance during prog

ngl

[misty sierra]

u should just check log on when ur mage are pressing barrier, GI, etc. I have a feeling he is pressing them whenever he feels like it and not before dmg event etc. etc.

[pale lava]

the argument was started from him claiming that his learning curve is different from mine

while p1 dimensius is 0 stress for a dps class

[remote bobcat]

mage learning curve p1 is easier than fury

inherently

due to being ranged

[pale lava]

he claims it's way harder

which made me seethe so hard

[remote bobcat]

how

is it cuz

[pale lava]

idk you tell me

[remote bobcat]

"i take more dmg when i dont press a button?"

[misty sierra]

what learning curve? if he is raiding mythic do he need to learn to press defensive on dimmi specifically or?

[pale lava]

he can alter every knockback, have a defensive for everything

[remote bobcat]

bro

honestly

send him lorrgs.io

defensive usage

[pale lava]

I think I'm done arguing with mages, actually done arguing with ranged players period

[misty sierra]

^

[remote bobcat]

put it into timeline reminders or MRT reminders

and ur done

he will never die

just send him lorrgs.io

"i have to learn my def spell usage"

no you dont

just import the timers

[misty sierra]

most dps never checks defensive cd from lorrgs

[remote bobcat]

^

[misty sierra]

they just check offensive cds

[warm crag]

only piece of feedback from healers i got during my trial was "this guy uses dstance"

very funny

[remote bobcat]

this is so fucking real spongie

[pale lava]

healers want to pad

they want that extra healing to log

so they can go "see how Rambo I am?"

"you peasants couldn't live this shit without my expertise"

[remote bobcat]

this is not about top600 prog where padding is a thing

dw

heal padding isnt rly a thing at spongies level of raiding

it only becomes a thing once you reclear a bunch

[warm crag]

ye it is

[remote bobcat]

but not during prog

[warm crag]

we 3 healed dimensius yday

oh ye during prog whatever bosses are hard enough where healers are naturally entertained

[remote bobcat]

yea cuz reclear

[warm crag]

i was on the 1 healer side. very scary

[remote bobcat]

i believe u

[warm crag]

(it felt no worse than prog)

[remote bobcat]

but honestly i like fights where i have to use defensives

nexus king was nice for that

[misty sierra]

the best way to help ur healer is just be consistent with ur defensive usage, so after a few pulls he knows when u need prio and when u are safe'

[warm crag]

idk i dont like how "random" salhadaar defensive usage felt

[remote bobcat]

i mean u got 1/3 mechanics

you either got dot, first claw or second claw

SR that

then def stance the soak

[warm crag]

i really wanna SR banishments and claws but if i sr those i categorically can't sr the group soak

[remote bobcat]

sometimes enraged regen

[warm crag]

i suppose group soaks dont hurt at all anymore so i can just skip out on that

[remote bobcat]

group soak def stance

spongers

[pale lava]

• on this, my only complaint on that fight honestly

[warm crag]

nuh uh

[pale lava]

because I really enjoy being able to plan out my defensive usage and tinker with that

[misty sierra]

if u are full hp theres no way soak can kill u

[remote bobcat]

yuh uh

[warm crag]

sring claws felt like a waste when you move out of bossrange anyways and dstance makes you unkillable to claws

[warm crag]

it used to shrug

[pale lava]

currently yeah, but I think during earlier ilvl days it depended on your spec

[warm crag]

nah you'd die as a warrior aswell

[misty sierra]

surely theres one where am is assigned that one u just need to be full hp for and one u just pop er

[remote bobcat]

you'd just get 1shot

dw, i tried :)

[weary nacelle]

Hey guys, I have done all the 12 M+, I even have the resilient achievement but the gear are not available to buy for me, do you guys know what is the issue?

[pale lava]

it's bugged, currently you need above 12s for it to count

you will need to wait for them to fix it

[weary nacelle]

So I need to have 13, is it?

[pale lava]

yeah, they might fix it soon though (copium)

[honest trail]

Guess I'll keep the same trinkets

[queen marsh]

Hey guys, tank here tryna get my triple threat and dipping my toes into dps. I am missing weapons though and wondering if i can dual wield 1hands for fury? Or would that be really bad?

[honest trail]

Can (doable)

But bad (don't do it)

[queen marsh]

Aight ty so probably doable for a +10 if i overgear it

ahh

rip

[warm crag]

you can smf for +10s

[smoky sigil]

Im looking at logs and how do people get raging blow as their top damage?

mine is always rampage

do we not send rampage as soon as its available anymore?

[warm crag]

no, check the wowhead rotation page

you p much only ramp to not overcap rage or drop enrage at this point

[smoky sigil]

Thats fun

thank you Spongie

And thunderous roar is the last button we press

got it

[thorny peak]

ahh cuz i was wondering why dawnbreaker gear is locked while i had a resil key in my bags for 2 weeks and who deleted the sacbrood from the vendor

[maiden sphinx]

hello furys!!!

im new on this discoring and looking to stay and contribute if i can aswell

but can i ask something plz?

[tight roost]

You already did

[maiden sphinx]

🙂

its about execute procc

do i keep it and use it on 3 stacks? or spend it everytime i get a stuck?

by stack i mean mark of execution (slayer)

[warm crag]

Press it when you have 2 sd stacks, 2 mfe debuffs on the enemy or your jugg/sd is about to run out

There is a weakaura that kachings when one of those conditions is met, if you wanna read into more Detail abt the priority check the wowhead guide rotation section

[maiden sphinx]

thanks mate 🙂

[pale lava]

yep all bugged, just gotta hope they fix it fast

[remote bobcat]

theres a 2nd myth vendor

[median marsh]

In mythic nexus, after we qre back from platform to the main arena, we are getting to amp time and use bl and pots, at this time - we can hit both the king and the dragon, who should i need to focus at amp time?

[remote bobcat]

linkedin.com

yea

you should hit dragon

but also

the dragon gets a dmg amp debuff

and isnt nexus king immune or smth?

[median marsh]

Amp is only on dragon??

[median marsh]

Oo i thought both can be hit, mb

[remote bobcat]

we are both talking about this part?

[median marsh]

Yes

[remote bobcat]

mate open ur eyes, salhadaar tps away from dragon to do a channeled cast

[pale lava]

you only hit the dragon here

if anyone hits salhadaar = gkick

[median marsh]

Tyvm guys

❤️

[pale lava]

only the dragon has amp, you can make an argument for dot classes who gain resources from having multiple targets dotted

[remote bobcat]

this is my boomkins pov

look at salhadaar

far away

casting

i think hes immune too

why would u hit that

[pale lava]

yes

you can immolate him as destro I guess for shards

but other than that you don't

[median marsh]

Well maybe i was wrong about thinking i can hit him

[pale lava]

no worries, it's good that you asked

knowledge is power

[remote bobcat]

yea

mb for being abrasive

[pale lava]

always ask, always research

[remote bobcat]

i hope we could clear it up

[median marsh]

All good, tyvm fir the help

[wanton niche]

You guys think its better for dps m+ to get myth weapon or trinket for this week?

[compact knot]

need more context

[wanton niche]

i can get either myth circuit breaker or crused stone idol

and i wanna maximize dps for this week

until i can buy the other next week

[compact knot]

i meant like what items do you currently have

if you have 2 hero weapons its circuit breaker 1000%

[wanton niche]

1 hero 1 crafted?

[compact knot]

yeah circuit breaker

[wanton niche]

okey ty

[compact knot]

can dinar csi with tokens

[rotund ginkgo]

19 db
hunter writes "80k"

[eternal sundial]

??

[hollow leaf]

xd

[pale lava]

named potato
writes like he's sweating over the keyboard

you high rolled an imbecile instead of MFE procs

[lean nacelle]

did blizz forget to put sacbrood on the dinar vendor?

[earnest canyon]

You need to go to the vendor, plug in a joypad and do "Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start"

should appear then

(blizz seems to have fucked up as usual)

[young swan]

you cant get another item for 3 weeks

[sour frigate]

Master fury.

[undone vault]

Super angry

[tepid cedar]

Still no fkn sacbrood at the store

Ful uuuuuu blizzzz

[sullen dove]

blizz saving the playerbase from picking a mid ahh trinket 🙏

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-lebron-screaming-lebron-lebron-james-screaming-gif-5629213437781461656

[hollow leaf]

only this first week gives you 3 dinars

the weekly quest from now on will only give 1 dinar

[lyric rain]

isnt this beautiful

[winter shoal]

Craft another ring big dog

[undone vault]

wow

[forest owl]

are stat weapon enchants simming better for others atm?

[young swan]

have been for a while

[compact knot]

since like season 2 i think

[quartz matrix]

why tf isn't Sacbood on the dinar vendor?

[olive wraith]

Spaghetti

Or oversight

Either way it’s dumb

[earnest canyon]

I still wonder if its because its an old dungeon even though its in s3 rotation, so thats just how things are

[olive wraith]

Isn’t Dawn stuff available

[earnest canyon]

dont know....logged in, checked my vault, threw up, went back to remix. Just a lot of people are asking about sac in my guild and stuff

[winter shoal]

It is

[earnest canyon]

hmmm....idk then

[abstract mountain]

quick question. do we get m+ trinkets from dinars only at hero track?

[earnest canyon]

no, mythic track if you did all 8 s3 dungeons at 12 or above

[cunning condor]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Toc9vNDDQlI?si=KOSvvaJxQNWCtBPj

[winter shoal]

It's a +12 for that specific dungeon now innit

[earnest canyon]

not sure. Im a pro gamer so have most on a 14

[vapid spade]

yes that's right

[sinful spoke]

the mace goes perfect with this mog

sheesh

[undone vault]

damn yeah

[young swan]

i still need like 25 world quests or something

got lazy..

[undone vault]

I did not miss the questlines

[simple creek]

Is the antenna overall better than screams for fury? Considering the antenna going to be 730 vs 717 screams (heroic)

[oak peak]

730 antenna will be better than 717 screams

[winter shoal]

Depends on the rest of your gear and your use case, you'll need to sim your character (preferably with different target counts and fight lengths) to get an accurate answer

[hollow leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1242886633456664676/1430995278818709534/image.png?ex=68fbcdb5&is=68fa7c35&hm=a680a1f734880c2669dd049380fe909a8f02e167f5ff881b25461a4ad709557d&

I suck

can't parse on araz when you're assigned to soak sadge

[earnest canyon]

Tell your gm to fucking soak them himself, he doesn't pay your sub and you ain't no one's bitch!!...

And this is why I got removed from my last guild

[hollow leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1392944663094362228/1393305032740573285/critcake-warrior.gif

[winter shoal]

I've resolved to play only for boss dam on reclear. Won't catch me speccing imp ww on forgeweaver

[hollow leaf]

holy

time to go to bed and maybe this will be done next week

[languid willow]

@hollow leaf i'll never see a araz kill where im not soaking twice or a hutners kill that is ever clean 😭

[earnest canyon]

U need to buy a new computer

[hollow leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-penacony-honkai-star-rail-clockie-no-money-gif-14673244072619990643

[languid willow]

I fixed the PI chart for my guild discord

[paper wolf]

What are atm the best trinkets for m+ as fury?

[limpid hound]

Does anyone else experience that when they leap on dimensius it makes you jump a little extra in the air and puts you ahead of your cursor

[winter shoal]

Pick 2 of idol, sacbrood, arcanocore, antenna

[unreal onyx]

sorry, am I dumb or can I not buy sacbrood from the dinar vendor?

[tepid cedar]

too bad those fucking clowns at blizz have yet to fix dinar shop yet

[winter shoal]

It's chalked bc blizzard spaghetti

[tepid cedar]

nah thsoe wrothless mfrs fucked it up

[unreal onyx]

ohh good, well bad but I thought I was just dumb

[silk wharf]

I was told this phenomena was the dragon movement reset and me spamming leap so it happened a second time midair.

[plush zephyr]

Humble bragging ass

[hollow leaf]

<95 average = I suck

[trim hound]

Finally got BoE from raid, it's boots

[edgy widget]

Did anyone do the +49 achieve on remix yet?

[undone vault]

Only done 40 as of yet

[modest condor]

not touching m+ this week

[hollow leaf]

sanguine and necrotic

[austere onyx]

Do you guys know if stone idol on use dmg is affected by enrage?

[smoky vale]

@whole remnant @clever belfry @gleaming siren sechs sieben

[clever belfry]

🎰

[whole remnant]

XD

https://tenor.com/view/pattern-huntsman-csgo-knife-huntsman-ohnepixel-gif-12570815639212803976

[hollow leaf]

it's not

[whole remnant]

it is

[limpid sentinel]

maybe

[hollow leaf]

nothing warrior can do applies to item damage

enrage included

items are never affected by enrage, last time that was a thing was original legion

[sullen dove]

verse usually only thing that affects trinket dam

[hot pivot]

recklessness doesn't seem to affect thunder blast. is that intended?

[sullen dove]

what about it doesnt

it should

like just the 20% crit and rage gen?

[hot pivot]

I mean

in my details breakdown my thunderblast crits around 21% of the time which matches my char sheet crit chance. it should be higher than that

[sullen dove]

maybe a bit higher but its not like u always have reck and also always have tb charges to use during reck

[hollow leaf]

recklessness doesn't affect your character sheet crit chance

[hot pivot]

i know

[sullen dove]

no but itd increase details tb crit

[hot pivot]

thats why it's weird my details breakdown is still

so low

[sullen dove]

it can be any combo of bad rng/not having many tbs up during reck

[modest condor]

seismic reverb can not crit, instead it does 30% of the damage of the original thunderblast

[sullen dove]

o can that not fr

bad game

[hot pivot]

ohhh

[hot pivot]

ty

[sullen dove]

but yea would prolly be part of it

try to see there should be 2 different tbs see the crit% for the bigger one

[modest condor]

no it's not part of it, it's the sole reason

[sullen dove]

and the smaller one would show 0 probably

[hot pivot]

on the combined with seismic reverb it shows 21%

on that one it does

ty!

[sullen dove]

i mean saying rng and no tbs in reck wouldnt be part of it lole

but yea 5% to 95% value

[hollow leaf]

chad sil

[dusky moon]

wait

@smoky vale

why the fuck do you talk here

you're a goddamn dk

mods ban this man

[sullen dove]

thats what i been sayin

[dense fulcrum]

u guys can buy the sac brood with dinar? i still dont see it wtf

[smoky vale]

hi dear

[smoky vale]

explode

[dusky moon]

world 249

not even

good enough to be world 248

cringe

[smoky vale]

yep

im bad

[limpid sentinel]

thats my goat 😤

[dusky moon]

I wanted a FDK vod to show my DKs what not to do and stumbled across yours

[smoky vale]

okay man

[sullen dove]

yea ur gonna wanna keep looking

or wait

[dusky moon]

what not to do

[smoky vale]

i miss swordish

[sullen dove]

for what not to do

you found the right one

[smoky vale]

you dumb af

[dusky moon]

you dumb af

[smoky vale]

can you post the gif in the other discord please

[sullen dove]

what

[dusky moon]

lmao

[smoky vale]

can you shut the fuxk up bro

[sullen dove]

"other discord" btw theres like 5

[smoky vale]

the one where i rule

[sullen dove]

[smoky vale]

@dusky moon do you have 18 streets

i need it

big io

[scarlet dock]

hello how can i know which flask is the best one for my char?

is there any section in raidbot?

[dusky moon]

i havent done a key in 8 weeks

[olive wraith]

Chaos

[scarlet dock]

ty

[dusky moon]

how about an ara kara

[earnest canyon]

Which one is guile? I honestly just start doing keys, or rather used to as 12 and above don't have an affix, and go "oh it's that one"

[hardy cargo]

isnt that the 15s time loss on death and extra scaling or something

maybe just the 15s

[olive wraith]

Ya I think that might be the 15 second death penalty

Idk the names of any affix cause they don’t excise above 12

[earnest canyon]

Ah right, I didn't even know that had a name, and I've done over 100 keys, aahahah

[trim hound]

Yee

[earnest canyon]

Thanks

[charred birch]

i'm currently running 730 sac-brood and sol'eah.. and 730 mh weap, 727 crafted weap.. im guessing cursed stone idol is my best cartel chip option for m+? (i dont have any mythic raid kills) im getting conflicting results when simming

[olive wraith]

Ya idol is “bis”

[hardy cargo]

would it be impossible to just pug a loomithar kill then to get antenna?

[pulsar quest]

I’m thinking our best bis for m+ is prob gonna be idol sacbrood

[hardy cargo]

stone idol owns I am just an enjoyer for double passive

[pulsar quest]

Could maybe be pacemaker just depends on your stats

[hardy cargo]

I feel like I do less dam with stone idol on I dunno why(its bc im dogshit)

[pulsar quest]

Nah it’s okay somethings wrong with our class right now man (I parsed a 25 in raid this week something has to be broken right?)

[olive wraith]

People saying loom is pretty free to myth pug

I haven’t tried it personally

[feral ivy]

welp ... now what. this all i need from raid AND keys

[smoky vale]

no i dont need it

[hardy cargo]

sacbrood finally on the vendor

[onyx linden]

i guess play alts

[feral ivy]

Rather dieeeeeee

[ember blade]

i got a question about Anger Management vs Reckless Abandon so i was hitting dummies with both for 5 minutes each but RA pulled ahead by like 200k dps compared to AM but AM is recommended everywhere, is it for example in M+ since you just got cd's back faster the little trade off is not worth it or why is it recommended everywhere?

[young swan]

you probably arent playing AM well or the sample size is too small

or both

cause AM is just better

our cooldowns just flat out arent very good, so making them better at the cost of not having them as often is just a bad tradeoff

[olive wraith]

Using something like netherprism would also favor RA I suppose

Be better to sim the difference since it does thousands of iterations

[onyx linden]

didnt say you have to play a different class

need a neck from mythic and my alt is in full gear too

[tepid cedar]

finally in store

i have enough SAC FOR EVREYONE

[sullen dove]

all the ppl gonna buy it now 😭 blizz was tryina save youse from yourselves

[feral ivy]

updrage ur wrist!!

[onyx linden]

oh will do, just dont want to farm crests

[feral ivy]

i have 16 more 20's to go

[onyx linden]

yikes

[feral ivy]

16!! and ive already done like 13 this week

[onyx linden]

i didnt do a key in the last 2 weeks

[feral ivy]

wtf

[onyx linden]

exhanged all crests and my main is full geared

and thats how far my alt got

[feral ivy]

you can exchange crest from alt to main wtf

[onyx linden]

not transfer

heroic crests to gilded

etc

[feral ivy]

ahh

wait .. u can make heroic crest to mythic crest?

[onyx linden]

brother, dont tell me you didnt know

[feral ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-breathe-david-rose-david-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-5567600972171007330

[trim hound]

Here's a quick tutorial

Go there

Click some of these

[onyx linden]

^this

only buy the purple ones

[feral ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-ragecat-cat-gif-12838957484956100051

[trim hound]

Purple ones are "upgrades" blue ones are downgrades

[onyx linden]

buy all triumphant you can, use it

them buy all celebratory, use them

then all glorious

and you possibly dont have to run that much keys

[feral ivy]

shit now im out of valor stone

[onyx linden]

you can transfer them from alts

if you have them

[feral ivy]

i didnt do an alt this season UGHHH

and all rep quests i did last season

[trim hound]

Got any of those Valor Stone caches in bank or something?

I had like 800 worth lying around

[onyx linden]

i have some to spend still

+700 on main

[feral ivy]

weird i had some on a character i dont touch lol

[onyx linden]

they didnt reset at season start

all i have on alts are from last season

had to farm undermine a lot

[chilly fractal]

I had a ton of valorstone items in my bags still

The ones you could buy from dead vaults don’t go away or the ones from rep

[feral ivy]

well now i only have to do 6 keys

[trim hound]

ayy

[feral ivy]

thank yall

[earnest canyon]

anytime buddy

[chilly fractal]

Fuck you vendor

[pearl sequoia]

no sac?

[chilly fractal]

Myth vendor doesn’t like me

[feral ivy]

doing dimensius mythic and ugh p1 is hell

i thought nexus king was ugh but nahh

[onyx linden]

what? dimmy p1 is easy

at least the nerfed version

[winter shoal]

dimmy p1 is easy for us

ranged and healers seem to struggle a lot with positioning and movement, and with calling orb backups quickly and clearly

(for guilds getting to it now)

[onyx linden]

idk Liquid wa does the backup calling by default

[feral ivy]

today is our first day on it so its hetic atm

[winter shoal]

I'm getting real sick and tired of the p1 dps variance though. I'll be anywhere from like 5.5m to 7.2m at the end of p1 depending on rng with gravity and stuff

[winter shoal]

We use NS and it kind of does as well but it's not immediately obvious if you need to back up front or back etc

[onyx linden]

yea liquid tells you that too

[onyx linden]

but yea, when i got R1, i didnt get a single backup or orb

[charred flint]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dLj9yhA5jWjcNwzK6K5H1A

why is araz simming so high

is it because 1min sim ?

[onyx linden]

its a good trinket for burst

we just dont like 2 min trinkets

[manic dock]

how do I use stone idol on multitarget

opener

[olive wraith]

Use it during charge

[balmy compass]

My everforged axe is at 704 lvl now..I have a enchanted gilded crest it says it recrafts the weapon from 707-720

So I have to be 707 at least to recraft?

I didn't buy the crest yet I have 87 gilded crests it costs 60 to buy one..so I'm confused about this whether to buy because ilvl is 704 only

[olive wraith]

No you can craft using gilded at any time

There’s no ilvl requirement for using gilded as your crest

[balmy compass]

oh thank u

[sullen dove]

u also would wanna wait till u have 90 gildeds cuz u can craft up to 727

with the extra gilded augmentation thing off the enchanting vendor

[olive wraith]

^^

[balmy compass]

Got it

Is it okay to invest everything on both the weapons circuit breaker and everforged axe until reaches max ilvl? Because I'm just sitting at 694ilvl with majority champion gear xD

[olive wraith]

Weapons are really important for us so yes

But if you’re ever in doubt. Run a sim

[balmy compass]

Okay

[olive wraith]

Good lord world first 121 dht

[keen kindle]

tf

[feral ivy]

got to p2 at dimmy for first night 🙂 ezzzzz

[compact knot]

we made it

[unborn delta]

That crit gem giving 2% ms or .15% crit

I’m a movespeedcel

[compact knot]

0.15% crit

its a pretty decent chunk of dps now

[winter shoal]

Movespeed is scuffed bc it doesn't stack with frenzied enrage I think

[charred flint]

.15% crit doesnt sim better for me

[compact knot]

ur simming wrong then

lol

its 0.6% crit damage for free

[charred flint]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bAgam9NQAxwqD43Rp14y3Z

idk man it doesnt feel like theres something wrong would love if you let me know tho

[coarse nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rcShcJH8jPset1H4NcPfAm

[sullen dove]

jesus christ every gem combo on the planet

[coarse nest]

its an upgrade for me to run crit effect but I'd rather keep haste gems

[sullen dove]

40% on stage 3 for this mf after like 10 minutes

who maxes out all gem types

[coarse nest]

I do I like speed

[strange drift]

welp i am complete apart from HoA ring lol

[dense fulcrum]

i still need 400 crest to cap all somehow, so bored tho xD

[smoky vale]

@sullen dove this could be you

[sullen dove]

y would i want that

[pseudo cedar]

how much haste do u guys have? got like 35% and feels Overkill

[smoky vale]

(stats dont matter)

[dense fulcrum]

around 32

i still cant decide between antenna sacbrood and pacemaker lol all sims pretty similar

for m

[olive wraith]

Don’t worry about stat %

Sims know best

[undone flower]

It is not 100% 0.6% since the alternative is to have your perfect gem combo without the color restriction, but it is free 0.6% if you go speed combos as alternative yes

Still funny 0.15% crit dmg is weaker than 1 gem (because we don’t take endurance to max the effect)

[visual wing]

Do we BS after idol or before?

[young swan]

after

[elder estuary]

is sacbrood+idol better than antenna+idol? seeing highest wars run sacbrood+idol but i sim better with antenna+idol

well now for some reason antenna+sacbrood sims better by 100k guess im getting a 730 sacbrood with the next dinars

[sour frigate]

[smoky turret]

wdym "for some reason"

it should sim better

[elder estuary]

i mean, tbh fury war is the only spec ive played where two passive trinkets are better than a passive+one use so its kinda surprising

just started playing war like 3 weeks ago

[smoky turret]

fury rn isn't a burst spec ava roar is just cosmetic cds

you perform by being consistantly doing damage

so double passive > idol

[sour frigate]

Hol up isnt odyns fury not an iconic burst ability

[elder estuary]

ye ig

[smoky turret]

ppl use idol because on higher keys pulls disproportional

so if you pull 20 on 1.5 min and 4 on off pulls

idol performs

but i still think its bait

you sacrifice too much st for it

[elder estuary]

anyway fury war is way more fun than i expected, rerolled to it cos i couldnt do any key on my dk bcoz every grp had a dk already in it and war was the only other max lvl char i had but now i just need an 18 flood for 18 resi but no1 gives me a chance 😭

[sour frigate]

Same

I also get declined in 12s

[smoky turret]

i was 3400ish s1 8/8m and fully bised out

and it took me 20 min to get into one vault key

w class

[elder estuary]

u think fury is still gna be btr than arms in m+ next xpac?

[sour frigate]

🫳
🔮

How can we know lol

Its always slots what numbers are bigger

[smoky turret]

im betting arms

[sour frigate]

Im betting shadow priest

Or enchancer guy

Its being a while sp being succ

[olive wraith]

Hi. Refer to my name

[dense elbow]

Pwarrior is the choice next expansion, as it is every expansion

[polar narwhal]

Where is good helmet

[unreal onyx]

And where are the wrist, belt and helmet sockets

[cobalt relic]

why do my 717 rings sim higher than crafted 227

Xd

[tardy lark]

about 500 ilvl difference on those

[cobalt relic]

wdym

lower ilvl sims higher

[tardy lark]

717 > 227

[devout totem]

have u simmed with gems in your new ring

[cobalt relic]

727

mb

bros

[tardy lark]

[cobalt relic]

I simmed without gems/enchants on all rings

2 sockets

its crazy

might just craft 727 ring for ilvl

and not use it

LOL

[devout totem]

send ur sims

i mean the raidbots results mb

[cobalt relic]

sim for m+ if possible

one sec

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mp2ipA4FxGCCTPtkFcXpGZ

@devout totem

so weird no

[devout totem]

nah, you are comparing rings with gems against rings with no gems

ofc it gonna sims lower

[cobalt relic]

I picked rings without gems

idk why it shows that

like this

[devout totem]

yes, but your current equiped gears have gems on it even if you remove them from the choices

[cobalt relic]

so how I fix that

whats the counterplay

[devout totem]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jgEUea9YyENgEZm1c8T9BJ

[devout totem]

counterplay is to pick gems in the sims anyway.
check the sims is sent, you have your answer here

[hollow leaf]

why would you sim without gems

[devout totem]

idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ancient peak]

Simming dinar choices as thought trinkets would be huge but im simming better (or very very marginal increase 10k~dps) with the 2 passive trinkets i have (Peacemaker/sacbrood) feels abit wrong am I doing something stupid or do I trust the sims

[hollow leaf]

there isn't really an active trinket that's good for st

[remote bobcat]

https://www.twitch.tv/silencedyo/clip/GracefulTastyTireRiPepperonis-oYdvPcq93mG38M5p

does anyone know why my evoker mounts up ?

despite not mounting ?

he fights as this big dragon thing

and it makes it hard to play gravity

[hollow leaf]

lol

[remote bobcat]

yea and it happens every single pull over multiple ids and relogs

[cobalt relic]

why 1min30s. why target dummys? best for m+?

[hollow leaf]

90s is a common sim setting just to look at an average pack

it's not going to be perfect and you shouldn't care about the specific number that it spits out

it's just to give an idea of what performs better the more targets you add

[cobalt relic]

why target dummy and not 5 boss

@hollow leaf

tho

or is it same shit

[hollow leaf]

🤷‍♂️

[cobalt relic]

how do u even add gems to crafted stuff

on raidbots?