fury

[undone flower]

And I did few dimmy pulls before I notice

damn those BT enrage are weirdly very often

[remote bobcat]

there isnt a single set of talents that uses both fresh meat and imp bt

so why did u have this

[undone flower]

Likely : I did m+ with this loadout + took fresh meat, and when boss I used the same but switched the wrong talent for improv BT

I did 75 parse but more bc I crashed in p3 (and survived smh)

[warm crag]

p3 salhadaar is not in the list of boss mechanics you cant oneshot

[undone flower]

My opinion is the opposite, very unlikely everyone will successfully do the galactic smashes the first time + do the spike moves

[warm crag]

why not

spike moves are solved by a note or 21st man raidleader, you have infinite time to look at what symbol you're dropping stars at and then infinite time to actually place them

if your tanks prepared properly you can't fail smashes even if you ffa them

[undone flower]

The chance of 15 or 16 players (I don’t’ remember how many smashes) doing it successfully the first time is very low

[warm crag]

why is it low

should be 18 ppl

but a tank gets it 3 times so ye 15

[charred flint]

I did loomy on M+ talents smh

[undone flower]

Because you play at the same time basically

[warm crag]

there is nothing that happens 10s before smashes and 10s after the cast has started

you are quite literally not playing at the same time you are dealing with that mechanic

like i can't tell you where any ground marker is on that fight because i never had to learn them, whenever smashes come up it just says "drop orange" and i look for 10 full seconds where orange is

[cobalt relic]

all gg

[undone flower]

It was really easy for me yes, but I can’t say for everyone since I leap those who are blocked by the central balls

Orange and green

It is not the chance of me personnally doing the mech, it is that everyone does on that first p3 pull

[remote bobcat]

gg

[remote bobcat]

this is so real btw

[terse meadow]

am i right that fury is actually just using bloodthirst when everything ( rampage/raging blow etc) is not available ?

[chrome plover]

not me spinning my camera round the entire time that weakaura is on my screen looking for the right marker

[undone flower]

Our MW did the same tbf

Healer pov

[remote bobcat]

this "etc" is very difficult to mention

[undone flower]

Saladbar : perfect no addon boss btw

[remote bobcat]

BT is in the prio list as a filler below execute

[terse meadow]

yeah okay ... then thats what i understand on the wowhead guide ^^

[remote bobcat]

but yes we click bt when we dont have rampage, dont have raging blow, dont have execute

[terse meadow]

was just curios if it is true ... even with stacks it seems to be lower

[remote bobcat]

Yes BT is ass

the button sucks

raging blow is stronger than bloodthirst with a guaranteed crit

[terse meadow]

crazy XD

times changed XD

[remote bobcat]

thats why rotationally we click exe with sudden death conditions > raging blow > execute > bloodthirst > thunderous roar

for our general rotation

trying to get to rampage

[terse meadow]

oky ^^ thy 🙂 ... maybe u can give me another fast "overall" answer ... what dmg should i reach in a +12 key overall as fury nowadays ? ... sitting at like 705 ilvl actually and doing 5.5-6m overall in a dungeon

[remote bobcat]

between 6 and 7mil

depending on dungeon

if u play eco dome aldani u should easily reach 8mil i think

with ur ilvl

[undone flower]

Dawn and street being the low overall dungeons

[remote bobcat]

yea it kinda depends

also tank route

[undone flower]

Yes Dawn can be a regular if your tank games

[remote bobcat]

streets will always be low overall

but alas

[terse meadow]

kk thy for the information ... will try to improve ... maybe i should also check for stats ... guess i got pretty shitty stats so far XD

[remote bobcat]

no

[terse meadow]

no?

[remote bobcat]

no.

stats are a joke

this isnt 2008

"i have 60% mastery hurr durr"

"do i need more????"

no

you go to raidbots.com and you sim your character

it will tell you what is strongest

[terse meadow]

yeah sure ... but actually i got like 20k in crit XD seems wrong looking at every available website XD

[remote bobcat]

oh yea thats always garbage

we aint never using 20k crit

lol

[terse meadow]

^^ so maybe i should look at my stats ... even before simming specific items for little gains ... i first need to fix my overall weights XD

[remote bobcat]

just run a dungeon droptimizer

it will tell you what items from dungeons u need to try to get

shrugeg

[terse meadow]

kk will do so 🙂

[dense elbow]

Where the f is my Odyn's Fury?

I got scammed!

[remote bobcat]

in your talents cuh

[dense elbow]

Warswords of the valarjar, at home edition

[warm crag]

PRESS N

[coarse nest]

I will not!

[dense elbow]

I am waiting for the ->prot

Arms trolls man, smh

[gaunt loom]

stone idol

garbage trinket

im not gonna use this shit

[dense elbow]

Then dont

[gaunt loom]

i tried

[dense elbow]

I dont use it for m+, I use two passive trinkies, they also sim better

[gaunt loom]

are you using pacemaker

[bitter palm]

n->prot

[kind halo]

anyone knows why i need to spend crest on weapon upgrade wheras i already have a 727 equipped ?

[gaunt loom]

bug

[kind halo]

no way man, cant be

[gaunt loom]

go to character select

[kind halo]

thanks it worked

[gaunt loom]

ye same happened to me

[ember cradle]

Switch to Arms, log out and back in

[restive peak]

Can just relog

[ember cradle]

Ah mb

[cobalt relic]

ggwp

[coarse nest]

ggwp

[olive wraith]

All gg

[chilly fractal]

Ggs

[bitter palm]

ggwp

[blissful shale]

No remix tab? 😢

[olive wraith]

Remix talk in here too I think

Just not a whole lot

[chilly fractal]

How much is there to really discuss

On remix you can be playing everything correctly and optimally, but still being out DPS’d by someone that no life grinded infinite power that 1 shots everything with a non enraged whirlwind

[gaunt loom]

nerf rashanan

too much hp wtf

[red berry]

remix this time around isn't really like that

[chilly fractal]

No but it’s still meme content

[remote bobcat]

this one?

[junior gale]

Still gonna have people asking about a remix guide and what to take

[chilly fractal]

Wowhead guide has them covered

[coarse nest]

🤓

Guys whats the remix build

[chilly fractal]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/legion-remix

[coarse nest]

That’s not.. lol

[olive wraith]

Spend points

Profit

[chilly fractal]

Real

[coarse nest]

LOL

[olive wraith]

Early fury is rough lmao

At least ww spam is decent

[undone flower]

i'm close to the massive power spike of rampage

[sullen dove]

ww talents >>>

need to make 2 talent builds for st and aoe

until u get enough points to get both

[olive wraith]

Why isn’t bt baseline

And ramp the top of the tree

[sullen dove]

lvl 11 basically baseline

[junior gale]

And Archi gonna get pinged about it every day cuz apparently it says 2 different things even tho he said he didn't make it

[undone flower]

slam

[olive wraith]

Ramp should take its place

[undone flower]

rampage should be a capstone, since it is a 50% dps gain talent

[sullen dove]

real?

[coarse nest]

Imagine

[olive wraith]

lol

Imagine having a spender before level 25

Probably too strong

[undone flower]

your spender if you really want it

[olive wraith]

Low key might

lol

[feral ivy]

off topic anyone know where there is a lot of critters in legion.. the 1000 kill for valor works outside raid now

[coarse nest]

Can hyper spawn murlocs iirc

[elfin harbor]

i know its warrior discord but does wowhead has that for evers class yet or are they working on it?

ah found it myself 😄

[olive wraith]

We love a king that looks for answers

[west parcel]

Fury leveling feels so bad on remix holy moly

No spender so I’m just spamming whirlwind 🥳

[olive wraith]

Luckily it’s pretty fast

[wet ridge]

noob warrior back again

should i prioritize raging blow over execute? warrior friend told me this and i feel like that's trolling

[olive wraith]

Check out wowhead

Exe has a few conditionals that make it better than rb

But generally rb is better

[winter shoal]

If you just use SD whenever it's available it's only like 0.5% worse or something

Not a massive deal

In aoe it's a bigger deal though

[undone flower]

THIS MF

[radiant plank]

bros getting owned

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/traewockhardt-sad-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-16591014784735052511

[olive wraith]

Press ww harder

[sinful spoke]

no power spike till improved ww

get off hardmode till lvl 15 lol

[undone flower]

im 26

[sinful spoke]

why u dying then

ubad?

[undone flower]

idk

[sullen dove]

bro gettin washed by a bird

hardmode was pretty shit until like 35-40

then it was a joke

and then after lvl 70 it becomes impossible again

until 80 presumably and u have more gear

[sinful spoke]

i did hard mode as prot and got 20 lvls just perma pulling 50 mobs at once

[sullen dove]

wilin scaling

prot player

[sinful spoke]

prot is good for lvl farming

u dont die

and u have ur demon do all the dmg

[undone flower]

i don't want to play prot tbf

[sinful spoke]

= profit

[sullen dove]

playing m+ in open world

demon going "wait for my cds!"

[young swan]

that demons is the most fake mother fucker i know

bro isnt scaling with spell power

[sinful spoke]

my demon never failed me

well

[young swan]

only attack power

[sinful spoke]

it did when server lagged

[sullen dove]

even on casters?

or just foru s

[young swan]

its just

in general

im pretty sure its supposed to

but its just bugged

[sullen dove]

u mean its like piss if ur an int user?

[young swan]

yeah pretty much

[sullen dove]

L

is kind of boring everyone uses the same 1 power anyway

would be fine/make sense for other class types to use the other ones assuming they are like about as good

and sorta seems they like coincide with eachother

like the terror from below bite doing extra damage to fel touched targets 2 paths combining to make the one thing do more dam

deepsurge crash should fuckin bomb

make ppl wanna pick it

[undone flower]

I’ll use the coolest power

[sullen dove]

good thing its the one that does the most damage too

(fel or die)

[undone flower]

Idk I don’t’ have the 8k currency yet

[coarse nest]

What’s the best build for the new demon hunter spec on remix?

[warm crag]

idk i turned on hardmode at 20 died afew times and turned it off

actual waste of time

[sullen dove]

yea i mean i didnt really play without it so i dont actually know how much i gained/lost because of it

but it supposedly said more xp and bronze and shit

and i think i got decent bronze but idk

maybe gotten like 200k and im lvl 77 rn

[warm crag]

ya fair

[normal rain]

If you arnt enraged, and you hit rampage? Does it benefit from the enrage it causes?

[warm crag]

yes

[sullen dove]

1 open world mob kill is like a 20th of your level tho which is funny lol

[normal rain]

I think I’ve been rampaging one Gcd to early to maintain rampage when I could squeeze in another raging blow

Maintain Enrage*

[undone flower]

i am Odyn now

[coarse nest]

Gaming

[sullen dove]

yea i mean its not like u have to specifically wait for enrage to fall off b4 hitting rampage

pretty bad thing to do most of the time tbh if it means your overcapping yourself on rage

like enrage is top priority to keep up but generally not like youre worried about its timer u just want to hit rampage when your around 110 rage and above

[normal rain]

Tyvm

[sullen dove]

so like almost full but still maybe 20% or so of the bar left empty, so you have a small bank of rage in case u dont get procs/no reck and your next rampage is harder to get back

but if u have no other buttons to hit ofc just hit the ramp, like bt on cd and no rb charges

just kinda slam that keyboard and game

[normal rain]

I do decent enough damage just kinda focusing on maintaining enrage whenever it’s about to fall off and hitting raging blow and Bt whenever rb not available. But I’ve been really struggling with hitting big numbers.

[sullen dove]

yea i mean in general so long as youre hitting rampage every 4-5 seconds or so uptime should be fine

if u have a log u can like try to see what uptime you have on it compared to someone else

super easy to see if youre lacking uptime in raid but m+ bit more headache to find that out

[smoky vale]

can you respond to my dm

[sullen dove]

can u explode

maybe like 1

[smoky vale]

alr mb

[sullen dove]

or twa

what is the opposite of explode

reconvene

[smoky vale]

regenerate

[sullen dove]

implode

explode

regenerate

then implode

ez

[smoky vale]

how many keys is 300 crests

[sullen dove]

15 12s

[pearl sequoia]

my main goal is to blow up

[winter shoal]

15

[smoky vale]

yeah we need to do 18 12s

5 5 8

[sullen dove]

you must be hung

[winter shoal]

Can also get em from mythic raid gio

[sullen dove]

i also dont even have the myth track to upgrade that much dont think

we boutta upgrade hero track in dis bih 🔥

[smoky vale]

well we need to finish my characters vaults

[winter shoal]

I think full mythic is close to 100 crests if not more

[pearl sequoia]

is uncapped next reset

[sullen dove]

gio alt run

[winter shoal]

one after I think

[sullen dove]

2 weeks

[smoky vale]

gio alt run will be reforming to go 5/8

swordish lock in

[pearl sequoia]

noice

[sullen dove]

yea ur done

[smoky vale]

you already forced to join

[sullen dove]

killin loomithar in there is already ce level

[smoky vale]

real

[sullen dove]

we are not rwfing forgeweaver

[smoky vale]

well today we are gonna do 5 keys

[sullen dove]

doubtge

yo guess what

[smoky vale]

and maybe i strangle you for another 5 tomorrow

guessing

[sullen dove]

nothing dropped out of raid again this week

[smoky vale]

w

[sullen dove]

and zolsh got mad again

my goat

[smoky vale]

Hahaahh

[sullen dove]

well nothing dropped for me i mean

something dropped for him that didnt go to him and he got mad

but i mean real

id b mad too maybe

[smoky vale]

what dropped

who did it go to

[sullen dove]

2 leather boots

healer and tank

[smoky vale]

rip

ehy are we giving tanks gear btw

[sullen dove]

cuz nexus king hits them hard

or something

[smoky vale]

that shit does nothing for them

[sullen dove]

more shield cool

[smoky vale]

(skill issue)

[sullen dove]

its like two sides of the same coin

[smoky vale]

@winter shoal my dk got dh boots 🙂

[sullen dove]

giving them .1% more defensiveness shouldnt matter just like giving 1 dps .5% dps doesnt matter

[winter shoal]

explode

and then reroll warrior

[smoky vale]

now its missing netherprism

wdym my warrior is nearly bis too

missing boots another ring

and maybe idol

[winter shoal]

nearly bis and green parsing fractillus

curious

[fading sky]

Bad rng

!

[smoky vale]

curious that was 3 weeks ago

nah it was 4

fuck you

[winter shoal]

I'm calling the mods

What is this aggression from giovanni fifty seven

[sullen dove]

i died on soulhunters this week

was very upset

didnt get brezzed

[smoky vale]

i beat every other warrior that kill

fuck you

and i got knocked back

[sullen dove]

no boots cuz didnt deserve them

true

maybe next week ill get a myth weapon

[smoky vale]

seordish are you at school

or can we play the game

[sullen dove]

school

this fly or this fly

[smoky vale]

that bug seeing you goon or what

[junior gale]

Gio do you not love me anymore because I stopped going to the Gio pug runs

[winter shoal]

hard

[smoky vale]

no, i do not love the people that die to the walls every weke

[sullen dove]

love yourself

now

[smoky vale]

🙂

[junior gale]

But I never died to a wall

[coarse nest]

I wouldn’t die to a wall

[smoky vale]

i need soldiers for gio alt run

need dh paladin

dragindeez is my evoker

[frigid geyser]

one question, with legion remix i would like to level up another warr, which race u think is the best for min/max, i've seen most of top 50 warrs using nelf, but some are void elves, dwarfs or humans

[sullen dove]

unless u plan to like push +20s it really doesnt matter

whichever u like the most is first option

then secondary like nelfs got meld dwarves got bleed clear is sometimes more helpful in some seasons vs others

velf is generally a "safe" "does more damage" race

[radiant plank]

For raids play velf, m+ nelf/Dwarf

[sullen dove]

just cuz of the silly racial whatever that is

also blink kinda cool

[frigid geyser]

ty! ❤️

[junior gale]

Just so you know these guys aren't top 50 because they're any of those races. The min max is because you genuinely don't care what your character looks like.

[frigid geyser]

?

[olive wraith]

He’s saying the character race they chose isn’t the reason they’re able to be top 50. The key level at the point it might impact you is most likely higher than you’ll push

It’s basically only an impact if you’re pushing title

[frigid geyser]

Yes I know, it's obvious

[olive wraith]

Roger that

[sinful spoke]

soulhunters or frac

[restive peak]

I play NE cuz NE is sexy as fuck in xmog, flips are fun, and meld has some uses

[sullen dove]

The hell u think

[restive peak]

But race means mostly fuckall

[junior gale]

Same

If meld was a gnome racial I would not be playing gnome

[chilly fractal]

I bought a 3 pack of Race changes… maybe I’ll go Void Elf at some point maybe I won’t

[undone flower]

GNOME.

[restive peak]

I played gnome for fun when I was a PVP andy

Because beating the shit out of people as a gnome is mentally bruising

[undone flower]

smol = fun

cow = fun

Everything else is not fun

[smoky vale]

fract

[sinful spoke]

i play as linccslayer because linccslayer is sexy as fuck in xmog

[restive peak]

Bro facts, glad to have you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284226322585354241/1413178488713642104/GIF_20250904_160623_708.gif

[sinful spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/clock-it-clock-that-tea-clockthattea-clockit-gif-13158323804130570684

[hardy cargo]

I would love to play NE but I cba being alliance

[restive peak]

NE just actually looks the best imo in every sense

They could remove racials and I'd prob stay NE lol

[sinful spoke]

the new race looks way betetr

i shall be race changing

[restive peak]

Actually it does look pretty fuckin cool NGL

Haven't seen the animations etc yet

[hardy cargo]

yeah haranir also has the op crit dam that tauren and dwarf have which is sick

[restive peak]

Oh fr? Crit stonks goin up too

[chilly fractal]

Not going back Worgen for the crit chance ever again that’s for sure

[dense elbow]

Why go Worgen, when Nelf

[chilly fractal]

Nelf gives Crit during the day iirc

When I do not play the game

Typically

[olive wraith]

Humans>nelf

[junior gale]

Haranir looks good? I haven't seen what the playable ones look like but the thing in the undermine quest line looked ugly af

[olive wraith]

Their Druid forms look real good

[junior gale]

I'll have to check it out. None of the druid forms have ever topped nelf for me

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-what-you-are-bella-swan-kristen-stewart-edward-cullen-robert-pattinson-gif-18229920

[coarse nest]

[dense elbow]

[hollow leaf]

he's sexy as fuck out of transmog as well

[sinful spoke]

Tmi

[hollow leaf]

[cobalt dome]

Hey guys! Just killed fractillus on mythic and my parse is not that great! Anyone could please point me in the right direction what to look at? My first mythic raid as fury! Cheers guys

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bxgNB9Lw26tckZ83?fight=40&type=damage-done&source=15

[sullen dove]

somethin dont look right about that hunter

idk nothing looks horribly wrong

good enrage uptime good cpm

maybe pacemaker isnt an ideal raid trinket

i think u did get knockback 5 times too which kinda blows

and i think 4 walls but that doesnt matter as much

[next jacinth]

@cobalt dome There is a channel for that

[sullen dove]

or unless the crystal encasement thing isnt knockback dont think the root is that long

maybe a bit too much rage wasted on raging blow tho idk what a "good" % of that looks like

700 out of 2500 though does seem like a lot

like 30% rage lost off rb feels kinda big

so perhaps just get a better trinket/hit rampage a bit more often than you are/get luckier on mechanics/generally higher ilvl overall

4:33 is also just like the worst possible time to kill for us avatar comes off right then and we dont get to use any of it

like the maximum amount of time possible from last av cast to hurt you the most

so yea killtime/trinket/more rampage/more ilvl/less mechanics probably only real things

idk how many mechanics u got tho

but also idk what your hunter is on

[left perch]

@warm crag

[earnest canyon]

he got 2x power infusion and has 2x ilevel 730 bis trinkets and ilevel 730 bow

[sullen dove]

sure but only 721 ilvl is small

2 pis maybe big

he just games

66% of his dmg 1 ability tho

funny spec

[earnest canyon]

dont forget hunters use the 701 belt as it takes a 727 for a small upgrade, and his rings he is using for the stats for DR, but they sttill arent ideal

[warm crag]

hello

[earnest canyon]

its 4 abilities, but they all proc off black arrow, so yeah, you have no control over them 🤣

[left perch]

hello!

[warm crag]

hi!!!

[trim hound]

Yeah... our BM hunter gapped the 2nd dps by 700k dps on 1st boss. 719 ilvl too xD

[earnest canyon]

DR is still one of the strongest specs in the game at pure single target, even with the nerf

[oblique trail]

Btch

[cobalt dome]

Amazing! Thanks for the help mate:)

[coarse nest]

To think banezi was yellow

[plush maple]

I'm sorry for wrong chat but anyone else got bugged quest Eternal Gratitude in Legion Remix? I get Eternal Gratitude then supposed to take a portal that puts me on Infinite Bazaar but it puts me instead on Krasus Landing while quest marker shows Infinite Bazaar is on one of the islands around Dalaran

[sullen dove]

a portal from the bazaar puts you on krasus landing but idk about if theres a portal to bazaar from there

u can just fly to the bazaar tho i think unless u have to take the portal

would just abandon retry if it seems borked idk

[plush maple]

I did and it put me on Krasus landing again, Don't have flying as I recently made character so doing the into questline

No other portal on Krasus Landing

Haha memes

EYYYYY Third time's the charm

On third attempt after abandoning quest twice I appear on right spot

[cobalt relic]

whats the shortcut to open omnicc

in game

?

[plush maple]

/omnicc ?

[cobalt relic]

aint work

[ornate gust]

No shorycut

[cobalt relic]

how do I open it

in game then

idgi

[ornate gust]

Go to Settings, addons, then open it

[plush maple]

Try /Omnicc config

[cobalt relic]

wdym

[ornate gust]

The game settings window

[ornate gust]

There are 2 tabs.. one of them is Addons

[plush maple]

At the top

[ornate gust]

Yes

[cobalt relic]

im stupid

its omniCD

not CC

[plush maple]

Haha it happens

[coarse nest]

Omnicc was the original name wasn’t it? When it was a pvp addon

[warm crag]

??????

[plush zephyr]

I could’ve sworn it was Omnicc lmao

[trim hound]

OmniCC was used back in the day to add timers to your action bar xD

[remote bobcat]

yo how do i get into the solo running of m+ and raids in remix? anyone know?

like do i have to pug heroic raid to scale up first?

[sullen dove]

idk how scaling works in this

in panda you just upgraded gear with bronze and eventually became unkillable but idk what "max ilvl" attainable is rn

theres also more raids to be released in coming weeks so presumably get better gear then

[wet ridge]

CARMUHH

[covert topaz]

hey guys quick question, if I'm above 115 rage and the WA is flashing execute, should I rampage not to overcap or just follow the wa?

[young swan]

wont be possible for a bit

[remote bobcat]

weakaura>rampage

[covert topaz]

tyvm

[winter shoal]

only if you're still enraged tho btw

if your enrage is going to drop, you rampage first so your execute is enraged

[covert topaz]

right, enrage is top priority always

[winter shoal]

most ways at least

[charred flint]

i have one question:

Like, if i have 2 seconds for BS and a 3 stack MFE

Do i just send the execute

or should i wait

always wonder whats better even tho rotation tells me i should just Execute

[olive wraith]

Keys or st

[warm crag]

probably dont press that execute

was valuable to delay it for ovinax

[feral ivy]

they gave us a new mount inarius" charger

[silk wharf]

Kinda weird place to ask, but would anyone have any idea how to get rid of this icon in my chat?

[calm swallow]

Hey @edgy widget (sorry for tagging) do you have a code/link to your UI Layout?

[edgy widget]

na, it's a bunch of different addons that I put together myself, not one consolidated pack

pretty simple though, majority of it is just bartender, pitbull, and some weakauras

[calm swallow]

Gotcha. Been trying to find a normal UI I don't hate and yours looked like I could tolerate it. WAs going away is killing me

[edgy widget]

I highly recommend just taking a couple hours to play around with action bars and making your own

personally I think they're a lot more versatile than WAs anyway, and you really don't want to be dependent on anyone else to maintain their pack so your UI works

[calm swallow]

I jsut have a heavy aversion to change... been using a "UI overhaul" addon for like 6 years and it's gonna be dropped with the changes so I'm grumpy lol

[calm tide]

So charging into Loom'ithar and not being in melee range is fucking stupid.

[compact knot]

agreeddd

[cunning condor]

guys

what to do in this scenario

i already got embelishment on my wrist and weapon?

[olive wraith]

Swap emb

[cunning condor]

to what?

[olive wraith]

Vers lining

You’ll also have to craft a belt or helm for 2nd emb

[cunning condor]

my belt is

mythic

il show you

sec

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kXtvvXMQ3kqSpT8HBym9Hd

i got also screams of forgotten sky for raid

[hardy cargo]

anyone have the execute conditions weakaura?

[olive wraith]

Ya it’s mythic but you can’t put lining on anything else

@cunning condor

Helm was also an option though

[cunning condor]

yeah so bascially recraft the embelishment on weapon and put it versa and also craft a head?

yeah helm is good option,but what will i use for second option,i'm fcked lmao

[sour tundra]

who's playing remix

whats the best way to gain ilvl on weapon

[lime perch]

Make warrior ?

[charred flint]

salad bur

is fucking

FUN man

[chilly fractal]

You can upgrade your crafted bracers and ring for 15 runed crests each to get them to 723 if you want

[cyan star]

I wish I got 7m dps gains by trinket swaps

tf

oh prob talent swap

[cunning condor]

talent swap yes

but im lucky i have great gear with warrior

[sullen dove]

did they fix the faces

fuck off man

one good thing

this dogshit game puts out

[feral ivy]

"hey should we fix the bug where u fly through ships in DB where we had for 2 seasons" "FUCK OFF WE NEED TO FIX THIS EMOTE PEOPLE ARE HAVING WAY TO MUCH FUN "

[north rivet]

tyrande is a big muscle mom

[cunning condor]

im all capped

sadly

[left perch]

This is classic Ion is a dork information

[rocky locust]

I'm being torn asunder for my vault choice this week.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jGoqmDEA6c9DZgfo8mTbCx
It's either Myth gloves or Myth Antenna. I'm hesitant to pick gloves because I could get gloves from Soulbinder or Forgeweaver. There's only one other raider in our group that doesn't have Myth gloves, so I feel like I could get some next week.
Would someone talk some sense into me, please?

[olive wraith]

That’s a tough one. Myth antenna can be bought for dinars so there is that

[sinful spoke]

rolled

[rocky locust]

That's an interesting point I hadn't considered. But I might be delusional to try to hold out another week for gloves from raid.

[olive wraith]

It’s generally gonna be a question of which is harder to acquire

Gloves are a bit iffy cause they need to drop. And that other person could also win them

Meanwhile antenna can be won when dropped? Unless you loot council or something. Or bought in 2 weeks

[rocky locust]

We have a loot council, yes.

[olive wraith]

What are the odds of getting a natty antenna

[rocky locust]

Like what are the odds I get one from raid next week?

[olive wraith]

Ya

[onyx linden]

Let me tell you this, our raid got 2 total antennas this season, 1 from normal and 1 from mythic, and we cleared that boss since week 1

Now if you want to pug, and even win it, very unlikely 😅

[candid trench]

question: on aoe/heavy aoe do I keep using execute procs that aura says or should i just send raging blows for more reap the storm procs? my overall damage has been so low

[sullen dove]

i usually ignore the 2 mfe and sometimes hit 3mfe

[sinful spoke]

more execute = more vbladestorms

so

do the math

[onyx linden]

Hit it with 3 stacks

[sullen dove]

bs is garbage who cares

[onyx linden]

Else RB

[sinful spoke]

ur garbage

/spit

[sullen dove]

if its like the first 20 seconds of a pull ill prolly spam rb for a while until all the small adds die

[onyx linden]

This

[sullen dove]

but you do need to send at least 3 exes on every pack to make sure ur next bs does the 3 more hts

not worry about exe as much until stuff starts dying or nothing else to hit

but if pack is like sub 50% and ur still a minute off bs would prolly start prioing exe a bit

[onyx linden]

I tried using exe more, my overall was dogshit in return

[olive wraith]

Your prio was better though

[sullen dove]

oh boy my PRIOOOO DAMAAAAGE

[olive wraith]

Can be a good trade off depending on comp

[candid trench]

I always use execute as aura says, but my overal is giga dogshit

[sullen dove]

aura is only really for single target

[candid trench]

and i honestly dont know what i am doing wrong

[onyx linden]

Idc if I can aoe 25m instead of 15m

[sullen dove]

r u saving bladestorm so its ready on every new pack u enter

[onyx linden]

Follow the WA only on ST

[candid trench]

I also have a pov here from the last dungeon i did if anyone wants to take a look to help me lol

[onyx linden]

The only thing you need to keep in mind, is to have BS for every pack

Like @sullen dove said

[rocky locust]

For some more context: we have 6 Myth Antennas in our group already. And we have 11 people who I think would still want one.

not including me

[olive wraith]

Oh good lord

So chances of looting gloves is higher than looting antenna

[rocky locust]

Yes I think so

[olive wraith]

Next question is if you feel like it’s worth it to wait 2 weeks for antenna

Like do you push keys

[candid trench]

in this case, i spam more rb's, use execs to reset bs for next pack and thats it?

[rocky locust]

I'm content doing 12-14.

[onyx linden]

Kinda

[olive wraith]

Maybe sim the difference in upgrade

[rocky locust]

I don't think I would lose much if I waited 2 weeks for antenna. My current trinkets seem pretty good.

[rocky locust]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jGoqmDEA6c9DZgfo8mTbCx

[candid trench]

i'm kinda more confused then, i guess

[olive wraith]

Oh ya for sure gloves imo

[onyx linden]

Isnt this ST, low?

In that ilvl

Oh missing buffs

[olive wraith]

Any reason why it’s 6 min?

[onyx linden]

You should sim with all buffs (except PI) and for 5 mins

[rocky locust]

If I fully upgrade my hero gloves and get the 8/8 myth antenna, Antenna is only +0.2% DPS.

[rocky locust]

I don't know. What should it be?

[rocky locust]

Not particularly.

[onyx linden]

Fix those I just said, and run a quick sim

Will be more for sure

[rocky locust]

add the raid buffs and do 5 min?

[onyx linden]

Yea

[feral ivy]

Idk what ion mean

[onyx linden]

I sim 1mil above you in +3 ilvl, so yours must be around 5.7 I think

[rocky locust]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vb4U3etFEfc7AMSVJrhztE

[onyx linden]

Was on point

[compact knot]

DUDE

I HATE

SCREAMS

HAHAHAHAHA

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2JPchVG8XZ1HRjMw?fight=3&type=damage-done&source=12

the pull before it did 300k more dps

[rocky locust]

So now 8/8 hero gloves with antenna is +0.8%.
And 8/8 Myth gloves is +1.1%

[compact knot]

fake ass trinket

7% pull 4:22 timer - 22 procs
kill pull 4:15 timer - 11 procs

dumb trinket

[onyx linden]

Just roll higher?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8RXCp1kJwLzxYbB4?fight=19&type=damage-done&source=11

[onyx linden]

Btw with bad proc its an average trinket, with luck its insane

[rocky locust]

@onyx linden So can I get your final thoughts on what you would do, please?

[onyx linden]

With your trinkets I would take gloves

You can buy the antenna from dinar if you really want to use it

As I see your other dinar will be boots

But nothing else to spend on

[rocky locust]

side note: we just killed Frac for the first time tonight. So it might be a while till we kill soul hunters so that i can buy boots. That doesn't affect this decision though

[onyx linden]

If you killed frac, at least vault can have the boots

[rocky locust]

tru

[onyx linden]

I have your trinkets on my alt, and I wouldnt play antenna if I could choose

Only reason to play that, if you push m+

[rocky locust]

Antenna is particularly good in high keys? Why's that?

[onyx linden]

Try to sim it with 20% miss

It will drop kinda hard for ST

Even more for aoe

[rocky locust]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mDqshapQgmMvCuVKAd51sK

[nimble ibex]

Any of you play with a mmo mouse in dungeons and if so do you get times where no buttons on the mouse work for like 3-4 seconds ?

[onyx linden]

You dont move a lot while killing packs, easier to collect, crit is good for m+

[olive wraith]

Also fury trinket pool is kinda meh this season

[onyx linden]

Yea not the best, but I like the 2 passives in raid

Arcano+dimmy

[olive wraith]

There’s like 1 decent on use trink

Blizz give us burst back

[onyx linden]

Araz is decent too, just 2mins

I saw a warri playing it in m+

[olive wraith]

Gross

[onyx linden]

He was playing odins too

Giga pad build

[compact knot]

i played it on H SH

got r1

its real good on aoe

[onyx linden]

On todays raid, I felt like I was blasting, until I checked logs

Like what happened to soul hunter this week

I topped with 9.3m and crit is rank 1 with 10.5

[undone flower]

I got r1 heroic loom wednesday

[onyx linden]

First week of public logs, should have been private I swear

[undone flower]

It is the easiest time to parse the first weeks

Im little sad im in extend hell on this wcl reset

[onyx linden]

Dont be

I wasted so much dam on araz

Cleaved adds I shouldnt have to(removed from logs)

On soulbinder I held CDs and we killed before 2nd big add wave

2 bosses straight fucked up

Well at least next week will be better, learning week

[covert abyss]

why is versatility listd as our best weapon enchant?

[somber elk]

SIM it, for ne one sims best

[covert abyss]

ugh i hate simming enchants, i still don't really know how tbh

[olive wraith]

With bis gear vers is the best stat proc. It’s gonna change depending on your specific stat distribution

[fading sky]

Make auth bis again blizzard dammit

Depths

Or radiant( i remember beta when dmg proc also fucked) was fun

[olive wraith]

I read this as Aug

[flat river]

do you get more artifact power if you play on heroic mode in remix?

[astral glade]

top gear - click little + on the weapon -> remove enchant - scroll a bit down and mark all enchants you like to compare

[tight roost]

Removing the enchant is only necessary if you want to compare with dmg without enchant, selecting multiple enchants will do the trick

[astral glade]

than you need to tick replace enchants/gems and if you have gems chosen the sim takes a long time - so i tend to remove stuff i care about - but either works

[fading sky]

Noooo🤣

Aug was only great for tanks

I remember tankin weekly keys with an aug at peak.🤣

[stable glacier]

What would you say its the perfect m+ Group for us fury warriors? If you want classes that buff us the most 😇

[dense elbow]

Druid/shaman, monk, Aug, priest

Probs

[flat river]

i killed queen azshara guys

gg no BFA azshara fight

[radiant perch]

hi, can I get some constructive feedback on my log from this key run?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wx6W8fGD7mJgjK9R?fight=6&type=damage-done&source=503&translate=true
I died on duo boss.. so there is a gap 😄 but rest felt pretty good.

[burnt vector]

Hey guys, i'm overall very satisfied with my fury gameplay but there is one pack where I find my dps low, its the first pack of gambit, any reasons you would think ?

[cobalt kernel]

youre only able to hit so many

[manic temple]

don't pop your stuff too early on that pull in gambit, let the tank gather, let the first interrupts through so that the casters can come over

and maintain uptime as much as you can, follow the tank around, hug the edge of the AoE on the ground to stay as close as possible to as many mobs as possible

[sudden tusk]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G2yAJ2naAAMXhxh?format=jpg&name=large

i saw this on twitter AND OH MY GOD

[sinful mantle]

All these new mogs, but all you need are these awesome staffs

[valid pulsar]

Wowhead posted about a fractillus buff. But now they edited the post with a red text saying „This has now been fixed“. What does that mean?

https://www.wowhead.com/de/news/fixed-mythic-fractillus-buffed-with-patch-11-2-5-378818

That buff wasnt intended and has been reverted?

[plush zephyr]

Yeah

[heavy dock]

we arent a class that does high dps in that pack compared to what other specs can do like destro lock

[valid pulsar]

Oh yeah i just checked logs and it was still a 12 second debuff yesterday

[heavy dock]

we are constant basically

[valid pulsar]

Yeah my 710 hunter can do 35M there while my 715 war can not even do close to 30

[cobalt relic]

all gg

good morning

[cobalt relic]

remix?

might need to grind it ngl

[warm crag]

Madox yellow what is this

[cunning condor]

We are not a burst class

[fading sky]

Y i dno

[valid pulsar]

jup

[fading sky]

Whar u want

[left perch]

Picture of two swords

[heavy dock]

playing remix made me mad that we never got the green gurthalak that skovald uses

[clever stone]

quick question guys, when I rampage and get enraged does that apply to the remaining 3 hits of rampage or not? Basically, is it worth it to rampage before enrage expires over another ability?

[heavy dock]

all hits of rampage are treated as being enraged

[clever stone]

without being enraged?

[heavy dock]

yes

[clever stone]

thank you

[heavy dock]

since rampage enrages you

[cobalt relic]

@heavy dock list of good transmogs in remix?

for fury

[heavy dock]

bruh

[heavy dock]

well all the raid ones

or any set from that expac

• taeschalah and schyte of argus

and theres the meta ones but those will take a bit of time

[oblique trail]

<@&257983573498265600>

[fleet sorrel]

@oblique trail

[oblique trail]

@fleet sorrel

[heavy dock]

these ones being the meta achiv ones

unique to remix

i think they look good

[rose blaze]

hey guys is mountain thane playable now ?

with the slayer nerf and mounthain buff i was wondering if it's value to swap

[cunning condor]

Wait are fury warriors good in legion remix?

Wait what slayer got nerfed??

[rose blaze]

Yep kinda hard

and mouthain got buff kinda hard too

[cunning condor]

Send me patch notes

Pls

[rose blaze]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-–-october-8/1977124

[cunning condor]

Hmm not sure

[lyric verge]

lol its from s1

[cunning condor]

Bro wtf he trolls

😆

[cobalt relic]

XD

[rose blaze]

AHHAHAHAHAH I BELIEVE IT SO HARD

How am i this stupid

zugzug war brain

[chilly fractal]

It is ok… when the zombies take over you may be able to slip by with them thinking you are already one of them

[rose blaze]

LMAO yeah u right

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/shaun-of-the-dead-simon-pegg-nick-frost-edgar-wright-zombie-gif-14819771

[clever stone]

would anyone mind reviewing my logs? I feel like I mostly got fury down but might be missing something
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pGN7azLJgqHbjZr1?fight=41&type=damage-done&source=13

[cunning condor]

Was fury warrior strong in the legion ?

[remote bobcat]

the meta at high level is just tanks cuz high m+ oneshots everyone

except tanks

the meta comp is 5x tanks lol

aside from that warr is just fine

remix is a casual experience

[remote bobcat]

you arent optimizing slaughtering strikes with brutal finish

bout you're doing fine over all

you reck before charge which is good

seemed like u had to raging blow so u ended at 79 rage ig but shit happens

[clever stone]

I dont even know what brutal finish is lo

[remote bobcat]

you tend to rampage at 100 instead of above 115

[remote bobcat]

dentge

it refers to this line

[devout totem]

just heroic throw before reck+charge to avoid this

[remote bobcat]

wrecking*

absolute_cinema

[devout totem]

yea whatever

just send ur weapon to boss face

👍

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/929807268994744340/1072996158357643344/kill.gif

[remote bobcat]

ThisTBH

[clever stone]

ok so do you guys use a weak aura to track this?

[devout totem]

for brutal finish i just press RB till no charge or enrage is about to fall

no need fancy WA for this

[clever stone]

so its better to just waste the rage after bs and get this brutal finish thing?

[devout totem]

yes

[coarse nest]

I always end up wasting more rage when I try to play around 115 instead of 100+

I’m bad at managing the auto attack rage I guess lol

[clever stone]

what do you mean by this?

and how would wrecking throw change anything?

[coarse nest]

It’s related to combat

[warm crag]

if you're not in combat when you reck ava charge you risk ticking down 1 rage so you end up at 79 rage

[coarse nest]

Throw ensures you’re put into combat

[warm crag]

the heroic/wrecking throw guarantees you're in combat

[clever stone]

oooohhhhh thats why I cant rampage sometimes

[coarse nest]

Thanks banezi tech

[sick sigil]

And how many Slaughtering Strikes stack i need befor Rampage ?

[coarse nest]

Up to 5

Or until enrage falls

[sick sigil]

Allways ?

[coarse nest]

No you build stacks until you can’t or enrage falls

[warm crag]

this is specifically for brutal finish

if you didn't just bladestorm you play the regular rotation outlined on wowhead

[sick sigil]

Oh okay so i must wait for the falls for more uptime

[sick sigil]

AHHHW!! Okay!

[clever belfry]

real kings taunt

[warm crag]

true

[clever stone]

ty for all the help guys

[clever belfry]

war

[coarse nest]

Why do you enrage regeneration on pull with taunt?

[clever belfry]

funny

[smoky vale]

@fleet sorrel

[sudden tusk]

Found on Twitter

Alpha datamine

[sudden tusk]

Alpha datamine

[clever belfry]

nice spoiler buddy

[smoky vale]

MEOW

[sudden tusk]

caged curse of ra

[clever belfry]

ure the one subbed to wow

ure in prison

[winter shoal]

#1423009037808570418 bud get out of here

[west parcel]

Can we vote to shut our discord down before midnight release?

Maybe snipe a quick 5% buff

[warm crag]

ret was famously good in the patch they did that for

[rose crypt]

Hi guys, Is the void elf the best race for warriors? Just a question 😅

[cobalt relic]

all gg

[warm crag]

For pure st sims i think it is rn but dwarf and nelf racials can be quite nice

More important to pick the race you like than to go for a miniscule difference you will never feel

[coarse nest]

ggwp

[rose crypt]

I really like dwarves and night elves. Which one do you think would have an advantage in m+?

[coarse nest]

Being able to meld is incredibly valuable for survival

[warm crag]

For you it doesn't matter, pick the aesthetic you like more

Racials matter for <500 ppl lol

[rigid stirrup]

If you're doing high m+ meld is actually one of the most clutch buttons out there.

[undone flower]

Fortunately I’m just doing 18s, I’m not doing high m+

[rose crypt]

Thanks!! 😅

[gaunt loom]

killed salhadaar

[modest condor]

grats

[gaunt loom]

ty

[frosty scroll]

bro linked his logs to tell us he killed salhadaar fr

[winter shoal]

Let my guy flex in peace

[olive wraith]

Flexing is how baze became yellow

[hardy cargo]

killed NK few days ago guys unfort I died during the pull my todays% has gone UP since then since he die on day of partition

[sullen dove]

na was the releasing 2 videos

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/muscles-flex-strong-man-gif-9667735817216185709

[winter shoal]

I got r20 NK on prog the day after partition so it was like an 80 lmao. Was r6 on old partition

But that's without raid buff and turbo boost gear

[coarse nest]

Rank 89 btw

[sudden tusk]

Shokugeki no sugmuh

[rocky locust]

Should I be concerned with waiting until M+ packs are fully gathered before using Bladestorm? Or is it just important that I get 10 Overwhelmed stacks on my main target?

[olive wraith]

I mean you want 10 stacks on all targets as much as possible

[coarse nest]

^

[olive wraith]

It’s not awful to miss like 3-5 targets in a huge ass pull like flood first pull

Just for clarity. The tier set is 20% chance to reap per target that has 10 Overwhelm

[warm crag]

madox do you feel yellow

[warm crag]

per target hit so maximum of 5 ye

[cobalt relic]

5 eur for anyonr who can tell me where I fucking can obtain a training dummy

I can place inside of dungeon

I still dont have it

[warm crag]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/12dipso/list_of_all_target_dummy_toys/

[cobalt relic]

which 1 is obtainable from AH

spongie

[warm crag]

just get the turnip it takes like 20 seconds

[young swan]

turnip and fish head both very good

[cobalt relic]

I was there for turnip

but the npc does not give me quest

gg?

[warm crag]

noob get the fish head then

[cobalt relic]

how

nvm

[earnest canyon]

That list is wrong

[warm crag]

im reporting you to xantaga

[cobalt relic]

dont have none

@warm crag

what to do

[sudden tusk]

I am a coward yes

[earnest canyon]

ITS WRONG COS UR NOT IN IT AND UR THE BIGGEST DUMMY OF ALL!!

[cobalt relic]

HOW DO I GET THE CURRENCY

@earnest canyon

[warm crag]

idk click wowhead

[earnest canyon]

FROM THE BANK

[warm crag]

how will i be receiving my 5€

[cobalt relic]

paypal

but get me the currency

[cobalt relic]

u think I stored anything in my bank

bro

BRO

[earnest canyon]

I meant the bank where you put your europes notes

[cobalt relic]

europes notes?

[earnest canyon]

€€€€€€€€€€€

[coarse nest]

Is that maple bucks?

[zealous sluice]

Really new Fury dps here
Is this spec really just ''get 10 stacks and spam shit'' ?
Seems to work well so far 😮

[plush zephyr]

I mean. No. There’s a strict prio.

[cobalt relic]

CHEN MF IS NOT HERE

@warm crag

[warm crag]

sucks to be you

do the intro quests for mists then

[zealous sluice]

I gotta look into that then

[warm crag]

for that area

[sudden rock]

hi, does fury's mastery increase damage of artifact's traits in legion remix ?

[earnest canyon]

he's scared of you cos you keep yelling and have an anime pfp. Chen often says "I fucking hate weebs"

[devout totem]

chen can sense the otp Yi and is scared of such power

[charred flint]

closing in on top 100 na (only region that matters)

[charred flint]

how do i look at ghosts man

I missed 13 ghosts last night

[inland oyster]

whats an acceptable time to hold bladestorm either for reck/avatar or some adds?

[cobalt relic]

w1

@warm crag

THE NPC AINT THERE

BRO

HOW TO CONTINUE THE CAMPAIGN????

[tidal temple]

did they change slayer for m+?

[olive wraith]

In what way

[hardy cargo]

just timed my first 19 gambit easy key but still feels good

[olive wraith]

Not to my knowledge

[tidal temple]

hmm well in remix my slayer mark doest proc at all

[olive wraith]

Are you max level?

[tidal temple]

yeah

[olive wraith]

Are things just dead too fast?

[tidal temple]

nope

not even 1 proc tho

[olive wraith]

It’s not in the breakdown

Are you talking about mark for execution

Or reap

[tidal temple]

reap was the one that was procing on unhidnged stacks

[olive wraith]

You won’t have reap from rb on remix

That’s from tier

[tidal temple]

ohh yeahh lol

i was like there no way i am gona play thane

in remix too

no wonder everyone is thane

sorry mb than

[olive wraith]

I mean slayer probably isn’t bad

Just gotta hit bt more

For reap procs (in aoe)

[tidal temple]

yeah the old way

i was stupid thx for reminding me that tier set did that xD

[olive wraith]

Ye no worries

[young swan]

unsure, should be pretty easy to test

just hit a dummy unenraged and enraged and compare

[charred flint]

midnight is gonna suck

[olive wraith]

Why lol

[charred flint]

they make us feel what its like to be good for m+ for 6 measly months

only if tierset is made baseline

[olive wraith]

Midnight is in alpha my dude lol

[charred flint]

yeah i mean that after this tierset

[olive wraith]

Give opinion after all our stuff is out

[charred flint]

we're losing the option to do dmg on 8+

[olive wraith]

We don’t have extra hero talents or apex

There’s an uncapped ramp cleave

[charred flint]

oh really?

thats nice

[cobalt relic]

I got it

alhamdulillah

[steady wharf]

does crafting weapon not save crests anymore on other 2h?

[olive wraith]

It does relog

[olive wraith]

It’s tuned like shit atm. But like I said. This is the first build

Wait till at least all the fury stuff is out to give final verdict

[coarse nest]

ggwp

[olive wraith]

Gg all gg

[coarse nest]

@tepid cedar bro you were on to something, spider sac sims 10k higher than ticking but when I run ticking my damage is higher on average pull to pull (NK prog)

[polar roost]

powerful enrage sims almost anytime over frenzied enrage. is there a reason everyone is picking it or its just my gear?

[olive wraith]

I think if you have giga haste powerful ends up simming more

[earnest canyon]

10% speed

[polar roost]

i doubt im having giga haste. not online atm. and 10% speed sounds weird for being the reason everyone running it

this is the current gear https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2q4MtXTAHQExz9Gy7RZiJB

[olive wraith]

Ya idk bud

[earnest canyon]

whats the dps with powerful?

[polar roost]

iirc about 1%. single and aoe. gonna sim tomorrow again

[tepid cedar]

was trying to tell ppl week 1 of s3

i dont trust sims 1 bnit for ticking., shit is op

[coarse nest]

Bro that thing cranks

I’m a believer

[tepid cedar]

yep

told you

[coarse nest]

Duo war kept getting a good gap on me pull to pull in the new guild and it was making me second guess myself but nah it was just the ticking sack dif (and pi 🤣)