#fury

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rancid axle
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this is a really stupid question#

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but how do you know when you're enraged

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or rather, how long does rampage enrage you for

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better yet, a good enrage tracker

upbeat cedar
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wago.io should have a bunch. generally you wont drop enrage in cds... can happen outside of cooldowns

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off the top of my head depending on talents its 3-5 seconds

dense elbow
plain oak
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Overall dmg at the end of a dungeon got to 3M

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From 2 before

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If I understanded when an enemy is overwhelmed you just want to use as much RB as you can and just use other skills to get RB charges or to wait its cd searching to keep enrage up right?

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That’s the flow

cobalt relic
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all gg

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any gg'ers

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@dense elbow gg?

dense elbow
# plain oak That’s the flow

Flow is basically to send other things when RB isn't ready.

So let us say you got no RB ready, you are enraged, you got WW stacks up:
Then send execute, if you can't, send Rampage, if you can't then you send Bloodthirst

Your rotation will likely look like this:
(Pull) WW, Bloodthirst to enrage, bladestorm, RB, RB, RB, WW (refresh of stacks), Rampage (for enrage), RB, RB, RB (if proc) if not Execute if not rampage, ww (stacks), rampage for enrage if you don't have it, RB, RB so on and on

So yeah, overwhelm enemy, then RB spam in essence

dense elbow
plain oak
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Is it right to keep bladestorm for the next pack?

dense elbow
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Yep

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If you can get two casts of and still get time for a reset, that is optimal. But, not going in with BS will kill your DPS, so play that smart

plain oak
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Thx

pine vigil
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anyone excited for the legion remix?

cobalt relic
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ALL gg

dense elbow
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From what I seen and heard, blizz just doing a timegated zzz fest

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so nah

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I skip

hushed ocean
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these remix things feel, for me, like eating your vomit again

rocky zinc
dense elbow
rocky zinc
dense elbow
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We arent strong cause our AoE damage is great, we are strong cause we are consistent

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They will do 40m when we do 20m, but we do 20m when they do 10m

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At the end of the key, you are very likely to be the top DPS, if not just a tiny bit behind

rocky zinc
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before i just pressed every execute and rampage over rb and i did less dmg than the tank haha but i try to keep track of enrage and spamm RB in aoe for now

dense elbow
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Dont forget WW stacks

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they are key, that and overwhelming stacks from bladestorm

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Ppl who do bad dps usually forgot that they got to bladestorm, and then swap to RB spam prio

rocky zinc
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i basically press bladestorm on cd, i only hold it if the mobs are below 20% or around there

dense elbow
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Gotta play it by feel and your situation, as long you got BS as you start on the next enemy, all is good

rocky zinc
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does execute with stacks for bs reset get higher prio anytime in aoe?

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or do i just RB until my hands fall off

dense elbow
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Basically only if you want to reset BS

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Get 3 marks, smash exe for the CDR - but if you already holding exe, just send RB, and execute will be spent naturally at points where you run out of RB to press

plush zephyr
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Can’t wait for mobs to feel the tightness of my champion spear grip

compact knot
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grip is a raid buff

shrewd dew
dense elbow
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Rampage enrages itself, rest needs to happen within an enrage window

shrewd dew
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Ahh

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I thought it was worth it rampage while already enraged

dense elbow
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(ww can be outside, if you need to press it before rampage)

shrewd dew
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Im basicaly tryn to main 90-100% uptime in combat

dense elbow
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100% would be the ideal, yep

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Going into keys now, so wont be answering more questions for a bit. Just throw em in here and someone will answer

shrewd dew
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So lets say enrage is running out, u can rampage to extend or wrecking blow - enrage runs out - rampage what would you do?

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Aite GL bro

shrewd dew
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Wym

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Highest prio button wrecking blow

cobalt relic
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all gg

pine vigil
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i dont remember which button was it

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wrecking blow was the rampage after blade storm?

oak peak
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Keeping enrage up is always top priority.

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Only thing higher priority is hitting CDs

plush zephyr
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Uptime > Enrage > CDs

coarse nest
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gg

meager wing
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why Charged Bolts simming so low? it's -79k dps

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on ST

plush zephyr
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Idk it’s about time to replace it anyway

tardy lark
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Trash next week thank god

plush zephyr
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Yeah if you haven’t out geared it by now it’ll be obsolete next week regardless

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Ig it’ll probably still sim around a champ belt

plain oak
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Guys a question actually I’m 700 gear score with one 720 weapon crafted and a 701 weapon 19k haste 14k masters, on dummies i deal around 8 mil

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In a M+ key I did an overall 3.26M

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Is it ok?

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I don’t know how to create a simulation here i don’t have addons

meager wing
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but on logs, all top fury warriors that are still using belt on Oct 1st onwards is using Charged Bolts

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when I sim, it tells me to use Critical Chain

winter shoal
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Logs are lying, everyone is using critical chain

meager wing
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ok thanks!

radiant plank
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I am using a 720 crafted duskthread lining belt

winter shoal
winter shoal
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Can't wait to cata + socket the mythic tazzy HM belt I've had in my bags for a month next week

winter shoal
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Go to bed gio

radiant plank
winter shoal
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I mean it's +0.5% rn if I send crests on it

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Will be much more after belt nerf

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I probably send crests on weap/chest/trinkets next week tho

plain oak
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On 5 i get 10M dps and 1 target is 3.4

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4

rigid stirrup
winter shoal
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Depends on your stats elsewhere

plush zephyr
smoky vale
plain oak
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5 targets 10.38M
1 target 3.270M

iron portal
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Are you fresh character?

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One target sim seems pretty low

hushed sluice
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Hello guys! Im trying to help my friend out with his Fury journey, he wants to advance in his play. Myself dont play dps at all pretty much, but Ive tried to help. Obviously I dont know as much as you guys, hence Im here for advice!

If someone experienced with the spec and logs, could help me with a fast review it would be greatly appreciated. dm me please if you could help out with this and have some time to kill FingerGuns

smoky vale
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most of his problems will be just not following apl

plush zephyr
plush zephyr
winter shoal
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But only if you ask specific questions

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If you just say "why my damage bad?" with a details screenshot, I will personally crash out

hushed sluice
plain oak
gaunt sonnet
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if we have just finished Bladestorm and we only have half a rage bar left and we have a sudden death proc, is it higher prio to stack raging blows for a bigger rampage or press the sudden death proc?

modest condor
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first i want to know how you manage to come out of a bladestorm with only half a rage bar

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anyway, sudden death has prio if the weakaura goes kaching, raging blow has prio if it doesnt

coarse nest
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Can you cancel resource??

warm crag
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i assume they meant enrage

dusk dawn
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Anyone know a good uptime for antenna for an average M+ run?

compact knot
smoky vale
compact knot
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ive highrolled a 30% though couple of times

smoky vale
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sometimes 35 or 39

compact knot
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u just saying numbers for fun

smoky vale
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no

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i stg

compact knot
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u have never gotten a 40%

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antenna uptime

smoky vale
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i have gotten 39

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and thats 40 bro

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when are you gonna push keys man

compact knot
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idk hopefully never

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keys suck

smoky vale
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D:

compact knot
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but id own every other warrior

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ngl

smoky vale
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i did a key with gajeel

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that shit was not pretty

compact knot
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ive had frac logs with 41% uptime and i make my balls give me max uptime on the actual crit buff

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i dont stack that shit

smoky vale
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yesterday i did a key as sanlyn blood with db talents and gear

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that shit was terrifying

compact knot
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blood dk is mad fun imo

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its the only tank that feels like it takes damage

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and it kinda does big damage too

smoky vale
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i mean yeah

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but not fun getting globaled

compact knot
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also i feel like this got overlooked because of expansion reveal but i like how this looks lowkey

smoky vale
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it just felt really bad not having any haste

thick fossil
plush zephyr
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I thought this class was easy and very straightforward until it became fotm

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The questions people have been asking make me question my understanding of the class

plush zephyr
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That has to be mail right?

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Idk what plate is anymore

compact knot
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that is 1000% plate

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yo i think im making a lock

plush zephyr
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Bruh

compact knot
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this set fucking owns

plush zephyr
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😂

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That looks so sick

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Again. Idk what plate is anymore lmao

compact knot
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its actually so good

late dock
compact knot
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u have to try way harder as bdk compared to other tanks to live

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but i think thats fun, its fine in 15s

sullen dove
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this a bug why da hell they gray as hell

hardy cargo
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mod color change it seems D;

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no longer blue

analog kite
compact knot
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it cant be that bad

hardy cargo
compact knot
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you just put stones down

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then cast the closet and afk

hardy cargo
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their shit can feel bad tho

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losing my pet when key goes in is real fuckin annoying

analog kite
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its just hell to play it in M+

hardy cargo
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I thik u can press the 3m cd thing before key in tho

radiant plank
compact knot
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why does this happen

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its cringe

hardy cargo
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tbh no fuckin idea

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now iamgine

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its a 5 sec cast time

compact knot
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my first key i didnt have any of my pets on pull and im just sitting here black arrowing

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so i needed a pet weakaura

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doing zero dps

young swan
smoky vale
analog kite
young swan
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hello guildhopper57

analog kite
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MM is bis

smoky vale
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too far man

marble pilot
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Im so happy

potent wharf
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How do we sim best for fury in m+ ? Dungeon slice ?

junior gale
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ST patchwork

potent wharf
olive wraith
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St=single target

potent wharf
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oh right, mb

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ty

plush zephyr
plush zephyr
analog kite
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you think mm is more boring than bm?

ebon rapids
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Yes

sour tundra
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RIP weak auras

sour tundra
olive wraith
sour tundra
junior gale
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If you are simming for M+ yeah?

olive wraith
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If you’re simming m+ yes use your m+ talents

inland flame
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Dang WeakAuras is dead dead

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I'm one of those nerds with big custom packages for all my toons ripperoni

marble pilot
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I dont think itll bother me too much. So long as the ui changes are actually good. I typicall just rip a lythos pack.

dark patio
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Looking for a build suggestion for fury spec for raid cleave and single target cleave? Maybe the name of some of the top parsing warriors and a place to go for the builds?

marble pilot
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Main thing I use ti for is like the execute conditionals. But if they fix the abilities to not need that then the sudden death lighting up is good enough

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Might make raid tools weird? Dont things like ready checks reading buffs to see who is missing raid buffs use weakauras or similar

analog kite
ebon rapids
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Both are boring tbh..

winter shoal
marble pilot
analog kite
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when theyre pumping

marble pilot
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As long as the in game ui and rotational stuff is what they actually say it will be then its all good.
I mostly just use it to keep track of improved WW stacks(counting to 4 is hard). And execute conditionals. If blizzard actually makes those thing visible and not ass then I can get rid of the Weak Auras completely and hardly notice.

white pawn
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Question regarding slaughtering strikes, is the goal to get as 5 to close as possible before enrage falls off and you need to ramp again? or just always hit 2 within an enrage window?

marble pilot
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Generally keep spamming till you have to rampage cause enrage is running out. Sometimes its 2 raging blows sometimes its 4. Sometimes you throw an execute in before the rampage as well.

ebon rapids
olive wraith
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Unless it’s directly after bladestorm

analog kite
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especially the spectral beasts

winter shoal
white pawn
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thanks. im finding myself getting a RB reset just on the tail end of enrage falling off and i hit it just as the enrage falls off (pretty sure its not an enraged hit at that point) i should stop doing that i think

marble pilot
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Also im really liking how the devourer dh is looking.
Looks a lot more like a 25yard melee than a caster. Doesnt mean ill swap. But it is the first time ive considered it in a while

analog kite
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i feel like its a diff variation of dev evoker

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looks cooler though, just has a few casts from what im seeing

marble pilot
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I see that. But it looked liek you only have to stop moving for just the big spell during meta? I think you can move and cast the others

analog kite
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theres one for meta, another for the hunt, and i think theres another empowering spell?

marble pilot
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I only saw some basic gameplay. Havnt looked much past that. But I know I saw a lot of instants and a cast while moving for sure

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Also way to early no balancing at all I got the impression you will play the dash into melee aoe and back out for m+ and the metamorphosis build for raid. But that could be way off.

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Oh the void beam channel might be stationary

analog kite
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yeah im not sure, i only saw what was on wowhead and i refuse to go in the DH discord lol. im sure itll be OP though when its released

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i just miss the old BFA DH

marble pilot
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Yeah I enjoyed it when it came out. But had a break from wow from BFA release till late dragonflight. And when I came back it didnt feel good to me.
Warrior has always been my main but sometimes you take a season off

analog kite
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i usually am between mage, warrior, rogue, and spriest. i usually play other classes as alts if i get bored enough. im just kinda over tww at this point

marble pilot
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Rogue is the other one ive been looking at. Its been all doom for a while. But ive heard that some of the the Midnight changes make rogue pretty fun again. Or at least less annoying.

analog kite
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Rogue is super fun, law and sin are great. but, law feels like you ran a mile after you complete a key lol

winter shoal
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Not in 12.0 keks

analog kite
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wdym

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i havent really been following much for 12.0 kinda been taking a break

plush zephyr
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yo crits stream title loool

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"enjoying my UI while I still can"

signal steeple
hollow juniper
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Guys there was class tuning for 8 october right?

flat river
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LETS GOOOO BRAWLERS GUILD COMING BACK

hollow juniper
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I cant find that class tuning

compact knot
coarse nest
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Hope I can get brawler title

charred flint
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timed it by .7 seconds lmao

pearl sequoia
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chillbungus

junior gale
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Go play legion remix

bitter palm
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real and true

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go doom about alpha

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go play legion remix

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tww is over

winter shoal
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Where'd you get this video of me

earnest canyon
pearl sequoia
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bed sheet with holes

earnest canyon
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Getting back on topic though, I really did enjoy brawlers guild. Mage tower I just forced my way through it on the classes I liked. Didnt really enjoy it at all. In fact it was a pain in the ass

lofty forge
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will next expansion have a dps meter like details?

sullen dove
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wow planning on making its like own integrated one

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so probably yes

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hopefully as accurate as the current one

earnest canyon
sullen dove
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yea i mean it should be

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but idk if itll have like as many options

earnest canyon
fair tundra
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when it comes to 701 belt, whats the best effect to use ?

fading sky
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No weakauras

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Game dead

winter shoal
compact knot
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this game is dead

iron portal
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THe love is there

cloud locust
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Oi can someone hit me with the raging blow gif

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Lizard etc

cloud locust
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Ty

fading sky
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Game dead

hollow glen
warm crag
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removal of weakauras is gonna diminish the presence of warrior in the meta

coarse nest
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Bros acting like we didn’t get a massive chains a few days ago

charred flint
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guys why did wow delete my wow account (the one i have sub on)

young swan
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idk but apparently not just a you problem

charred flint
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weirdge

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still here on the website

warm crag
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skill issue

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(i think its also cooked for me)

earnest canyon
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its because all ur moms have cancelled you using their credit card for ur silly video games

charred flint
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log into the wrong one

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go back to login screen ingame

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choose game version you actually want

olive wraith
opal leaf
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you can login with client.exe

iron portal
earnest shuttle
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asking for suggestions... I have below trinkets
Antenna 723
Pacemaker 723
So'leah 723
Arcanocore 723
Cursed Idol 710
Sacbrood 710

I currently use Antenna and Pacemaker for M+, but I'm not sure if I'm screwing this up, by simms pacemaker or soleah+antenna are the better combo damage wise but that's a simmulation only

iron portal
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Look at the lucky bastard

winter shoal
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I mean soleah and pace are both passive so the sim is pretty representative of real world

earnest shuttle
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same as pacemaker, is a passive, but in practice, would that be better than cursed idol or sacbrood?

earnest shuttle
iron portal
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Well Pacemaker and Soleah is luck on myth track tbh

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Even if you clear HM every week

sullen dove
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soleah mid anyway

tawny lodge
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i feel like i have too much haste here

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whats the stat distro usually look like should i drop haste for more masstery/verws?

sullen dove
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maybe a little high but idk just try to sim some haste into mast/verse if you can

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like if any of your crafted pices have haste on em see if recrafting them to diff stats shows any better or different gems maybe

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if it shows as better than can feel free to send it but if not then w/e

iron portal
tawny lodge
sullen dove
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eh it be like that sometimes

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u also dont seem to have 1 of every gem color for your blasphemite

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which kinda matters sometimes

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usually u wanna check the box somewhere down there where it says "use all colors"

lucid thorn
tawny lodge
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yes i know

sullen dove
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also haste aside maybe 22% baseline crit is kind of a lot i have like in the realm of 15 idk but considering u seem to be using idol prolly devalues the crit from that a little more too

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but eh

tawny lodge
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gotta listen to the clanker

sullen dove
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unless its a giant gain to swap a bunch of stats prolly not the biggest deal

tawny lodge
sullen dove
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o mayb that then yea

tawny lodge
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i just need better gloves i think

hardy gale
olive wraith
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Now we have 3 raid buff sclueless

coarse nest
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Can’t wait to sacrifice damage for grip required on a raid boss

junior gale
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I will gladly sac class tree dmg for that grip

gilded pawn
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shouldnt lose damage right

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just have to give up cheat

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though gotta wait for calculators to come back

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who knows

olive wraith
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There’s almost nothing in the bottom of the class tree

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Just am

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And sidearm

gilded pawn
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Am, spear, 3% aura buff

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for the bottom 4

clever iron
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we getting auto attack buffs wooop!!!!

olive wraith
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And crit damage buffs

hollow leaf
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I don't think critcake needs any damage buffs

olive wraith
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He’s been lifting

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He’s getting buff

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Blizz tuning be damned

warm crag
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why the fuck are they adding a 3k mount that is wayy too hard for the average casual (me)

olive wraith
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Black eagle looks sick

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Just buy a boost clueless

winter shoal
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spongus aint no way you aren't 3k

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I'm a weekly vault andy and even I'm 3k

near salmon
olive wraith
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What happened to his eye? I know he said he had surgery

hollow leaf
raw magnet
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Who is ready for crit heavy fury warrior in season 12

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The secret tech

olive wraith
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Idk if I’d call it secret

raw magnet
young swan
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season 12

raw magnet
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Shounen jump

olive wraith
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The patch is 12.0

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Def not season 12

raw magnet
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Was anime brained

earnest canyon
raw magnet
earnest canyon
raw magnet
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I haven't used it once but it's a tragedy

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Was hoping the thunder blast tier set would function a bit differently because I read it wrong

olive wraith
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Technically wouldn’t we be on season 30 or something

raw magnet
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As positive or negative seasons

olive wraith
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Wot

raw magnet
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Us going back in time during cataclysm dungeons and also murloc timeline

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are those seasons

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or are they the murlocs season and they don't count

olive wraith
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When did seasonal keys start

raw magnet
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Didn't m+ start in legion?

olive wraith
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Idk I wasn’t playing at the time

raw magnet
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I WAS playing at the time, but I was the highest caliber of noob at the time I didn't touch anything beyond lfr for raid

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or have a concept of rotations

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and all i did was legacy content pr much other than open world stuff

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I was also I was an outlaw rogue

hollow leaf
olive wraith
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So more like season 20~

raw magnet
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I think I like fury warrior because it is the outlaw rogue of warriors, I like that fast gameplay

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but even simpler

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I am really happy that Fury is getting a cheat death option even if it may have low viability over other talents(no idea if it is or isn't)

raw magnet
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Also happy that Fury warrior is getting deep wounds and rend, because thematically I always thought that fury should be the "death by a thousand cuts" type of class and arms should be the big hit strong type

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okee

olive wraith
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Imo

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Playstyle wise I don’t mind bleeds being added

raw magnet
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And arms has more impactful hits

olive wraith
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Thematically I think bleeds should buff our other abilities if anything

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Lean in to the berserker aesthetic

raw magnet
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3% usually, 1% per extra bleed

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I would like that

olive wraith
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No. Damage instead of healing

raw magnet
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Like thematically seeing blood(bleeds) makes you go into a further frenzy?

olive wraith
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Pretty much

raw magnet
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Yeah that'd work as well

olive wraith
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Or a baby version of arms mastery

raw magnet
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I like the fury mastery

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enraged applies dps gain by mastery percent

olive wraith
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Ya I’m not saying replace it

raw magnet
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I think a separate talent, like bleeds increase attack power by 2% per bleed is something that could be cool

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Would then be incentivized to maintain uptime of rend/deep wounds/gushing wood

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And can meld with odyns fury maybe, you get the other buffs then odyns fury for another 2% and throw cds

flat river
tender forge
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Guys , if add-ons are getting removed does that mean logs will be to ?

hoary tartan
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Why use cursed stone idol before avatar?

olive wraith
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Plus you can cast it while charging

hoary tartan
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is it not buffed by 20% dmg increase?

olive wraith
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No

hoary tartan
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got it

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checks out now

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ty

feral ivy
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=0 hekili wont work anymore.. how the fuck do i learn classes now well easier

olive wraith
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Sbr

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And supposedly classes are getting simplified

feral ivy
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sbr?

olive wraith
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Single button rotation

feral ivy
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is there a difference between hekili and that? or do they use the same rotation

olive wraith
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There’s a diff

modest condor
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hekili uses our apl, sbr uses whatever blizzard comes up with

olive wraith
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Hekili uses the apl

modest condor
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also it's not single button rotation, it's the rotation helper

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single button rotation isnt gonna teach you shit because you just spam one button while watching netflix

olive wraith
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I guess Blizz rotation helper would be better

feral ivy
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also if they are simplfying clases how the fuck does warrriors get simplified we press 3 buttons in raid lol

olive wraith
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Simplify doesn’t necessarily mean remove buttons

feral ivy
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just tried the assisted highlight thing.. shit sucks ass

olive wraith
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Ya it’s … something

frank osprey
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in aoe do u guys prioritize raging blow over rampage?

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or dumping rage is more important

olive wraith
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Depends

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How many targets

frank osprey
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in m+

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when would u prio it over rampage

olive wraith
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In big pulls people prio rb over ramp

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Unless you need to enrage

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Or if pack is dying and you don’t have bs off cooldown. You might wanna spam ramp to help get it back for next pull

frank osprey
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yea im struggling a bit with aoe

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theres no actual guide that is reliable and updated..

olive wraith
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Wowhead is updated

frank osprey
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yeah and it says to prio rampage

olive wraith
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At 115 rage sure

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What’s your breakdown at the end of a key look like

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Do you have bladestorm available at the start of every pull

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Do you have 4p? What’s your ilvl

frank osprey
olive wraith
#

There’s a lot of variables

frank osprey
#

718 from +12 flood

olive wraith
#

And what was your overall?

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You seem to be pushing rampant a lot a lot

frank osprey
#

8.66 mil

olive wraith
#

That’s not even a bad overall lol

frank osprey
#

man got smoked by ret

olive wraith
#

Coulda been the pulls

frank osprey
#

well they were big

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im missing the on use tho

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the trink

olive wraith
#

Did things die really quick

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I’d imagine so in a 12

frank osprey
#

yeah kinda we had like 10 mins left lol

olive wraith
#

Ya see

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We don’t do burst

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Ret does burst

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So that doesn’t help at all

frank osprey
#

yeah im not used to that ig

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since fury was all about burst for a while

olive wraith
#

For sure

#

Don’t stress on this one

#

But you can do more uncapped damage by rb spam as long as you’re enraged

frank osprey
#

yeah well he was doin like 30+mil when i couldn't even reach 20

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its annoying

sour tundra
#

Midnight = find out who is actually good at the game and who was relying on addons lol

winter shoal
#

Also that's a shit take anyways

olive wraith
winter shoal
#

Ret also kinda flat damage profile innit

#

But we should smurf on ret in single target and prio dam

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overall isn't everything

olive wraith
#

Are they? I thought they were bursty

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I don’t know enough about ret

winter shoal
#

They're bursty, just bursty on a 30s cd keks

olive wraith
#

lol

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That is pretty consistent as burst goes

last lichen
#

Kalaiath were u in a 17 dawn last night with 3 Fury wars?

olive wraith
#

No

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I wish that sounds fun

last lichen
#

It was, ur name was similar to one of 'em, i cant recall it lol. Solid advice just now for Tazax. Was lookin at the breakdown in that dawn and i was falling behind on dps for exactly that reason, not mashin RB hard enough xD

olive wraith
#

Fuck me I thought my name was pretty unique

last lichen
#

dw about it, my zug zug ass just remembers a K with a buncha letters after it 😛

earnest canyon
olive wraith
#

Well that’s pretty cool

unborn delta
#

what does my name mean

olive wraith
unborn estuary
#

If I pick my prot gear and play fury will my dmg be meme? mastery is that goated or marginal upgrade over crit?

winter shoal
#

Mastery is generally fury's best stat but like if you play well you'll probably do fine

unborn estuary
#

will give it a try, wanna maybe swap for fury but my gear is so optmized for prot that I get discouraged a bit xd

edgy widget
#

As you get into higher gear levels, the differences drop even more, since stacking any particular stat is going to cause diminishing returns to the point that all of the stats value starts to equalize

unborn delta
#

and neck

edgy widget
#

that's the easiest way to compensate stats, but you're really not going to see a profound difference if you have crit/mastery instead of haste/mastery or vers/mastery

unborn delta
#

i just swap my mastery vers rings for crit haste when i go from fury to prot

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haste is the worst example having like 8% haste on fury feels so ass

edgy widget
#

its slower certainly, though Frenzied Enrage helps quite a bit

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weapons are the more important one - Fury really wants two two-handed weapons, rather than just dual wielding your leftover Prot tank weapons

unborn delta
#

smf bad

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was it ever competitive? only started playing warrior in TWW

#

and in classic but thats a different horsie

winter shoal
#

It's had differing levels of how much worse it is, but AFAIK it's always been worse

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At least since the df talent rework

dire vigil
#

15 timed DB zzzz

winter shoal
#

Did the other dps have their monitors turned off or

dire vigil
#

Man idk, was rough lol

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It wasnt really close though, 2:30 left

olive wraith
#

Clearly you got buffed by brew

#

That’s gotta be the only reason

feral ivy
#

im done i got my pvp transmogs 2100 raiting as a warrior

smoky vale
#

@balmy shore does boss go boom?

potent citrus
#

7% wipe

balmy shore
#

yea

thorny peak
smoky vale
slow quest
balmy shore
unborn delta
#

another week at the salad bar

dire vigil
olive wraith
#

Probably not awful for Dawn

#

Between the mini bosses and bosses

dire vigil
#

Yeah probably was good actually

potent thicket
mild thicket
#

how do i sim fury- is dungeon cleave acceptable for m+

worn owl
#

anyone got a simple rotation for me? idk what im doing

#

it doesnt even have to be simple tbh i just need an idea

mild thicket
#

aoe with 4 pc and slayer just spam raging blow with enrage and whirlwind up

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it's brain dead but high apm

gleaming siren
#

@smoky vale camilla

slate sun
#

And linked in this discord

edgy widget
undone flower
#

This one

edgy widget
#

Looks like WH changed the URL, cause previously it updated the /the-war-within-guide from S1 -> 2

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but now they're using /war-within-season-3

bleak olive
#

Our aoe is an extension of our st, so if we nail st, our aoe goes alright - more or less

potent wharf
olive wraith
#

Trinks take some finesse

pine vigil
#

do you guys think sack trinket is kinda sim bait or nah?

olive wraith
#

Ticking sac is an st trink

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Not sim bait for st

restive saffron
#

guys im doing so good in M+ i pretty much out DPS every class but when it comes to raiding, even tho i think i know the rotation pretty well, my DPS is really low

#

is anyone free for a log review?

restive saffron
remote bobcat
#

People are catching up

#

Fotm rerollers

#

Lots of them..

fallen narwhal
#

How many stacks of Blood Frenzy should I have before I press Bloodthirst?

eternal sundial
#

bt crit doesnt impact ur rotation at all

fallen narwhal
#

Okayso it Doesn’t matter anywa

eternal sundial
#

ye

inland oyster
#

are u supposed to cap fury when ur trying to go for streaks of raging blow?

tight roost
#

Only after bladestorm

inland oyster
#

cause how do u even fit more than 2 3

fallen narwhal
#

And Execute only with sudden death?

tight roost
#

You spam rb until enrage runs out and then ramp

#

Mostly its 2-3, sometimes its more, execute procs as they come in that window

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Depending on talents you tend to end bladestorm with close to max enrage duration left

inland oyster
tight roost
#

Ramp as in rampage

#

To get enraged

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Or just before it runs out

#

Whatever is possible

eternal sundial
#

50% more rampage dam after bs

#

so u stack slaughtering strikes

tight roost
#

Bc slayer talents bladestorm buffs next rampage + rb does to so you get a big rampage out at the end

stuck axle
#

Hello guys, I'm struggling to do the damage I'm supposed to deal in AOE situation during M+ , there is something in my rotation / priorities but I can't find what.

To me here is my aoe opener then rotation:

CDs (reck/avatar) - charge - rampage - bladestorm - rb x2 - rampage then go into rotation -> ww - rb x2 - rampage - ww - rb x2 - rampage etc... with some execute inmiddle when conditions met and bladestorm on CD

Something totally wrong in it ?

flat river
#

Your opener is without WW buff active?

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This is mt im assuming

#

While charging you should click WW

stuck axle
#

yeah sry forgot to write it

flat river
#

Ah kk

#

The rotation seems fine in my opinion

#

Are you saving BS for the next pack?

#

Like usually you might use it twice per pack

#

But sometimes if you think the pack will die before you have bladestorm is up

#

Save it for next pack

fallen narwhal
#

where comes ww ? after first rampage ?

stuck axle
#

at opening right after my charge

fallen narwhal
#

kk

#

and bladerstorm only withe the 3 stacks from executive right?

stuck axle
#

on CD to benefit from overwhelmed

#

except if pack is soon dead

#

I save it for next one

inland oyster
tight roost
#

If u get a proc, go ahead and fire it

mighty sinew
#

Hey

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At what point do I start going to Versatility?

warm crag
#

whenever you sim your character in top gear and select items (ideally of the same ilvl) that have vers on them and the sim result is for you to equip those

flat river
#

You should sim yoself now

dense elbow
#

I would be very suprised if those stats dont equal a gigantic vers thirst

mighty sinew
#

Yea I was doing that there is a neck piece I could get most are just side grades

#

Until I get mythic equiv

plush zephyr
#

VERS THIRST BABY

dense elbow
onyx linden
dense elbow
#

Now I am curious, there is no way he only got a single neck upgrade and a ton of sidegrades

onyx linden
#

Maybe he sims for m+

#

judging by the trinket

dense elbow
#

M

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love vers

#

D:

#

Quite a few upgrade options to grab

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Even So'Leah, my love and only, is an upgrade

dark elbow
#

Fcking love vers

limber oar
#

@coarse nest @tepid cedar

#

the 5.8 wall is broken

#

said fk it and bought my boe helm

mighty sinew
tepid cedar
#

anetna finaly dropped last night as well for me

limber oar
#

that dps is w/o antenna

#

cause im a certified antenna hater

tepid cedar
#

ncie bro\

#

i love it

limber oar
#

re simming all my gems rn so see what comes out ahead

tepid cedar
#

ur at a great spot to now do the culminating sim

limber oar
#

big elusive fan

coarse nest
limber oar
#

ready to drop a nuke on dimmy

mighty sinew
#

I thoguth Atenna is like 3rd best ? or is it better than the trinket off of the first and last boss?

warm crag
#

For pure st antenna hovers around 2nd-3rd ye

plush zephyr
#

Don’t see enough Trolls

#

Hell yeah

mighty sinew
#

Yea i need mroe ilvl lol I am simming 4.3 mil

onyx linden
#

I wonder what could be the highest fury log on dimensius

gaunt loom
#

when i need to burn down a single target quickly, but there are 5 or more adds around, is it faster to cleave for extra damage, or should i just stick to the single target rotation?

onyx linden
#

Why would you single target at 5-6 targets

#

Just use WW every 5th gcd, we have good prio damage while cleaving

gaunt loom
#

so you're saying cleaving actually does more single target damage in that situation?

onyx linden
#

Not doing more, but you dont lose that much damage either, while hitting all targets

gaunt loom
#

then what if there are only two targets?

onyx linden
#

Shouldnt be any scenario where you have to do full ST as fury

#

In a pack

#

You cleave on 2 targets too

gaunt loom
#

ive always wondered if it’s better to use single target rotation or aoe rotation when im fighting Dailcry

indigo arch
#

Cleave it

#

They're lifelink

#

2+ = aoe rotation

gaunt loom
#

lifelink? didnt know that

indigo arch
#

Yep

onyx linden
#

They “share” hp, if you hit both, they take more dam

#

So yea, just cleave

undone flower
#

If it doesn’t look that way, it’s just because the miniboss has way more hp, so dailcry dies first

gaunt loom
#

i didn’t know they shared life. i’ve been hitting both targets just to get higher dps numbers on details.

#

lol

indigo arch
#

Ayy lmao

warm crag
#

who up culminating they blasphemite

bitter palm
warm crag
#

not me buddy

limber oar
#

i dont even use culminating

warm crag
#

@bitter palm do i take pacemaker from vault

bitter palm
warm crag
warm crag
warm crag
#

what the helly

bitter palm
#

midnight jumpsacre

unreal onyx
#

not sure why thumbnail says 720 ilvl

#

ingame says 721

#

||still missing soulhunter boots ffs||

bitter palm
#

meisterschaft

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shafting

#

why is german so funny

warm crag
#

you need more vermeidung and lebensraub on that gear mister

unreal onyx
#

true and real

warm crag
#

can you show us what skyreaver is called in german please

unreal onyx
#

I got mythic plate boe boots with Lebensraub

warm crag
#

booth

unreal onyx
bitter palm
#

grossaxt der huter

warm crag
#

not the Himmersschnitter-Fluch

bitter palm
#

isnt gross big

unreal onyx
#

not the Himmelsschnitter-Verwünschung

warm crag
#

ye

#

big axe

#

greataxe

bitter palm
#

nvm great in greataxe means big

#

american english

unreal onyx
#

you also still have the Zweihander in englisch

#

which literally means two-hander

bitter palm
#

y

#

axaxaxaxa

#

verzaubert: hartnackigkeit des eingeschworenen

#

german noun under 904 letters challenge impossible

unreal onyx
#

real

indigo arch
#

Gegenstandstufe

dusty cove
#

Im seeing some fury warriors punching dummies before the key starts. Am I missing a trick?

unreal onyx
#

propably to build up rage

#

but that seems pointless since you have enough to ramp anyway instantly when you reck-charge

misty crag
#

for more damage on bladestorm and more stacks of overwelm on the first pack

warm crag
#

lets you stack up more overwhelm maybe idk

hardy cargo
#

Lasts for 1 minute and doesn’t expire when key goes in

#

Err

#

Imminent demise*

cobalt relic
#

gg

gaunt loom
#

fury warrior

tiny socket
plush zephyr
smoky vale
#

are you wrecking throwing before to get in combat

tiny socket
gaunt loom
unborn delta
gaunt loom
#

ty my lord

#

dont fuck this up

warm crag
plush zephyr
#

shhhhh let em game

dusty cove
onyx linden
#

Saved a ton of crest

#

Also got a socketed belt from raid

dense elbow
coarse nest
gaunt loom
iron portal
#

Sounds like it did

dense elbow
#

ya get em next time, tiger

cobalt relic
odd bone
#

I have a question.
I cast Recklessness first and then charge, but I only gained 50 rage.
Why is this happening?

gaunt loom
#

i broke 4 keystones today gg

gaunt loom
onyx linden
#

Pretty sure u dont need to

olive wraith
#

For 80 rage? I think you do

onyx linden
#

Dont we need only reck?

#

Not sure, always pop both

olive wraith
#

Pressing avatar gives you rage

hardy cargo
#

u do also need to press avatar yes

onyx linden
#

Then u do, sure

#

Just be in combat

odd bone
#

I started by throwing the Storm volt at the training dummy, but only gave me 50 rage. Does this not apply to training dummies?

olive wraith
#

That works

hardy cargo
#

the 20 rage reset wouldnt happen on a dummy

odd bone
#

I cast Recklessness and avatar same time

olive wraith
#

Are you pressing avatar

olive wraith
#

You need to hit rek first

odd bone
#

storm volt - Recklessness and avatar - charge I cast in this order.

olive wraith
#

And you still only get 50 rage?

modest condor
#

50 rage is exactly what happens if you press avatar first

olive wraith
#

You using a macro for rek/ava?

modest condor
#

or if you press charge first

odd bone
#

yes I use macro

modest condor
#

are you sure you're not pressing reck/ava during charge?

olive wraith
#

Double check the macro

odd bone
#

#showtooltip avatar
/cast avatar
/cast recklessness

hardy cargo
#

swap them

#

then itll work

olive wraith
#

Bingo

odd bone
#

ok I try

#

It solved!!

#

thank a lot guys

hardy cargo
#

also just remember in raid be in combat before popping that + charging in

#

if not ur rage gets set to 20 and it feels real bad

odd bone
#

I will keep in mind , you guys are god to me

olive wraith
#

The non combat thing only decays your rage by 1-2 afaik

modest condor
#

yeah

dull gust
#

hi guys i m new to fury warrior can i ask which buffs should i be following in my weakaura?

olive wraith
#

Enrage, ww stacks for aoe

#

You can just grab the execute wa from the wa section it tracks 3 diff conditionals

dapper goblet
#

swordish for yellow

winter shoal
#

xeos for brown

olive wraith
#

Funky for of

modest condor
#

silmarilen for white

gaunt loom
#

bruh

#

how?

young swan
#

oh damn

#

gillneas close to top 10

gaunt loom
#

19 keystones not exist

winter shoal
#

They play with an M+ group

#

They're not pugging 19/20s

lean heart
#

oh man noxiv and critcake from Skyhold™️ feelsstrongman

gaunt loom
#

20 is insane

lean heart
#

i pushed to resil 14 think ima stop there

dense elbow
lean heart
#

can prob pug 15-16 but its kinda shit

modest condor
#

you can pug 19s

dense elbow
#

Funnilly enough, PuGing 16-17 is where I get invited to groups, but 15s? I still dont get invited

so Skip 15 range, just sign up for 16s, save yourself the pain

lean heart
#

i had this key the other day

modest condor
#

3.7mil xd

olive wraith
#

Tank damage

#

Is wild

modest condor
#

monksea would have topped the overall there

lean heart
#

my death asides (i was giga tilted by this point)
how do you deal with this

dense elbow
#

To be fair, that could be streets. So tank damage is not as high as 5m

gaunt loom
#

whats the best trinket combination in m+?

lean heart
#

it was dawn

dense elbow
#

Guess ya had a weird inefficent route

young swan
dense elbow
#

Lo' + Egg

#

It all depends on your gear, tho :v

lean heart
#

i was so confused cus even on pulls where he didnt die he was still doing tank dmg

gaunt loom
#

dont need solo target trinket?

lean heart
#

i had to check his gear to make sure he had all gear slots filled cus i was like theres no way

dense elbow
#

Solo target trinky?

lean heart
#

and i dont really know how hunter works so i didnt bother checking his talent but it was dawn he couldve easily ran out and changed after the first pull

young swan
sullen dove
# gaunt loom

they uh... do a thing called loggin in and playing the game

dense elbow
#

Oh, btw

#

I am glad to see colour is back

#

Grey was just very very sad

feral ivy
#

Do remember mop remix? Was server down half of the day?

young swan
#

althought i dont love this blue...

compact knot
#

no spec gets as negatively effected as BM does when they die

#

and that guy did a lot of it

dense elbow
#

Dying as a BM feels bad, cause they are so volotile squishy - especailly if ppl want you to hero

#

Ya die to things a Fury warrior wont even register

undone flower
#

tank specs are very negatively affected when they die clueless

compact knot
undone flower
#

but it is giga dopamine if you don't

dense elbow
#

Imagine dying at max stacks, with arrows ready to be loosed

#

That is soulkilling

compact knot
#

yeah its bad

#

you burst so hard with 8 stack quiver but without it you do 0 damage

#

suppose they could just baseline be a better spec instead of having 4pc be a 60% dps increase

#

bahahah

sand willow
#

hi guys, a quick question here, should i use bladestorm always with reck? or bladestorm on CD?

warm crag
#

in ST you can hold it if reck cd is <15s or avatar <8s otherwise press on cd

#

in aoe/m+ make sure you have bladestorm for the next pack/add wave otherwise use the above cd thresholds

sand willow
#

tyvm

unreal onyx
#

how is dawnbreaker the hardest dungeon to pug nowadays

lean heart
#

ive had people dying to beams on first boss in that key its baffling

olive wraith
#

The damage going out on bosses is crazy

compact reef
#

if i keep maxing rage i auto rampage to do not overcap rage or i should spend RB charges first?

warm crag
#

in aoe idk press buttons its all the same pretty much

lost saffron
#

@warm crag Please dont ping me anymore

young swan
#

@lost saffron

lost saffron
#

wtf

austere fulcrum
#

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is the only way that Raging Blow can trigger Reap the Storm through the 4set?

young swan
#

yes

austere fulcrum
#

Awesome, thank you for the answer.

young swan
#

np

austere fulcrum
#

Does that mean that before you have 4 set, then BT has higher prio than RB?

young swan
#

in aoe specifically, yeah

olive wraith
gaunt loom
cobalt relic
#

fucking

#

hell

#

what a disgusting key

lost saffron
#

Guys

#

I've been thinking

#

What if they removed rampage as a spender and slam was now our main spender

#

and its now a frontal cone

eternal sundial
lost saffron
#

No you cant

compact siren
#

slampage

eternal sundial
#

slamtaga

dense elbow
#

What if they remove Rampage, and instead grant us Templars Verdict and Divine storm

#

I dont get this whole idea that Rampage should do particular better or good AoE dam

hollow leaf
#

people voted to abandon a 16 gambit that was completely fine on time when we didn't even wipe to anything

#

???

olive wraith
#

Guys what if they gave fury a bunch of different bleeds

#

That would help with uncapped damage

clever path
#

hey guys, can anyone explain me the 4p ? I dont quite understand it, is it a real big dmg buff ?

olive wraith
#

Yes in aoe

#

Rb give a chance to do soft capped aoe

clever path
#

st wise doesnt matter ?

olive wraith
#

St it’s a small increase. Just because the max proc chance from rb reaps is 20%

cobalt relic
#

ggwp

#

@coarse nest

#

@stoic echo

olive wraith
#

gg

cobalt relic
coarse nest
#

gg!

clever path
#

okok, thanks, because im doing pvp and I wonder why my dmg so little. I also feel like I get out of cd so easily

compact reef
#

if i have to track buffs which one should be? ww stacks and enrage? What else?

#

slaugh strikes? i should spend all my rage blow stacks before rampage for the rampage buff?

#

im noticing also if i press reck y get avatar buff.. but also i have avatar i should press it when the avatar buff i get from reck fades right?

olive wraith
#

Oh I have 0 clue about PvP

olive wraith
barren stone
olive wraith
#

Unless you’re making your own exe conditions wa

compact reef
#

i like to track enrage so i know i can spin with it active

#

ww stacks so i know i can keep doing st on aoe

steep vigil
#

just switched to fury from arms today. i noticed some logs in m+ for good fury players their #1 DPS is RTS, mine is RB. what can i do to fix that?

olive wraith
#

Most common issue is not starting a pull with bs

bitter palm
steep vigil
#

priory was the key

young swan
#

probably arent starting packs with BS

#

otherwise it wasnt high enough key level

steep vigil
#

was only 10 since just starting to play fury

#

and most packs i started with bs

olive wraith
#

What other dps

young swan
#

prob just not high enough key level but u might be fucking something up

slim coral
#

yeah I wouldnt worry about dps in a 10

young swan
#

hard to tell without a vod

slim coral
#

not really accurate data in those level of keys

olive wraith
#

Probably just trash getting bursted

steep vigil
#

did 7.5K so not bad for day 1 i guess

slim coral
#

and honestly dps just comes down to pack size pulls a lot of the time

steep vigil
#

7.5M

olive wraith
steep vigil
#

haha

olive wraith
#

Ye ur fine im sure

novel gull
#

you guys macro cursed stone idol with anything? maybe like reck and avatar together?

olive wraith
#

Charge

edgy widget
#

so you're not actually macroing it, but just do your normal Reck/Ava -> Charge then immediately hit idol while you're traveling, the cast will complete after you get to melee and give you that bigger buff without as much downtime

novel gull
#

ok so you can when travel let me try it here ty

#

I should be able to macro all 3 of those then and use on charge

#

technically

#

so charge and the macro

unreal onyx
tepid cedar
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@restive peak u on?

compact reef
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any good spell reflection wa?

charred flint
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holy shit

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title is already at 3600 io

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this is impossible lmao

compact reef
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nvm found

restive peak
restive peak
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We'll be in 20-21s as pugs after turbo