Hey guys I've got a question, let's say I'm at 100 rage and I could do another Raging blow 
, but that would mean that my rampage would not benefit from Enrage, do I just send rampage or is it okay to cast rampage without being enraged?
#fury
hybrid willow
radiant perch
rampage always benefits from enrage, enrage apply before first rampage hit
hybrid willow
just to be clear, you're saying I should just rampage while enraged, instead of going for a last raging blow to fill up my rage bar?
radiant perch
no, you should squeeze as many RB/BTs/executes into enrage window
if you press rampage, you will gain enrage and that enrage increases dmg of the initial rampage you pressed
hybrid willow
Oh alright, thanks!
silk wharf
You are often going to cap rage, which you want to ideally avoid. You generate rage until you'll risk hitting cap (115 not in cds) at which point you rampage.
It is almost never a consideration of how long enrage lasts.
hazy cedar
Wait RB>rampage?? No wonder my dmg has been so bad... xdd
winter kernel
You are *often* going to cap rage, which you want to ideally avoid. You generate...
just out of interest what is the cap out of cds?
radiant perch
130 😄
silk wharf
The total rage cap is 130. Ideally during just regular dps time youll want to spend at about 115. That doesn't always go ideally and you'll cap anyways but its not a big deal.
In cooldowns, when rage gain is basically infinite, youll be rampaging very often at lower rage values.
Generally, while in cooldowns, I try to aim for under 100. But that is just my preference.
winter kernel
Yeah ok, I was jsut wondering if it made sense to reduce that 115 to some lower number if we are in Recklessness
just with the extra rage gain to avoid overcapping
silk wharf
Exactly the right line of thought.
winter kernel
ty ty
silk wharf
I think one of the more important factors is to always be hitting a button. Even a wrong button is better than no button.
winter kernel
Yeah I notice that when I look at my logs compared to higher ones, they are just getting 10-15% more button presses in
and it just adds up because less builders = less spenders = less CDR on rek/BS
silk wharf
yea, it all stacks
winter kernel
all super compounding in terms of value
silk wharf
Fury is just about cycling the package as much as possible.
undone flower
Yeah ok, I was jsut wondering if it made sense to reduce that 115 to some lower ...
Yes you can
Personally with reck : I see 3 digits rage, rampage
shrewd steppe
is Ticking Sack of Horror sim bait for simgle target or is it actually good? didnt see a lot of people running with it in raid
warm crag
is Ticking Sack of Horror sim bait for simgle target or is it actually good? did...
Its good but rare to get in comparison to screams arcanocore for most raiders
shrewd steppe
yeah, I simmed it for 5 min, I just didnt get screams and arcanocore yet and I was suprised to see it be my top trinket alongside ara-kara trinket in single target
warm crag
Pure st trinkets can be your best for pure st ye
frail island
Why is my reap the storm damage so low? 😭
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cNpBwv7TX3tdMGJb?fight=4&type=damage-done&source=7
pale lava
Why is my reap the storm damage so low? 😭
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/...
do you bladestorm at the start of every pack?
if not you should start doing that
your reap won't proc from RB if you don't have plenty of overwhelmed stacks on your targets
frail island
Yeah i do, but i wonder if maybe im out of range or something but idk if you can even check that on logs
pale lava
what happened here
you're missing globals inside WW
I recommend casting idol before sending your cds
because you're losing gcds
lime perch
Gm
frail island
Okay thats helpful. Thank you for taking the time to look at that. So I need to be better at ww and then 4 casts consistenly. I'll also take idol out of my macro
And then it looks like im just flat out not casting for periods of time. I think its when I get out of range of my target so im frantically tabbing between targets until I can hit something
frail island
Got to work on my positioning as well so im range of stuff I guess
signal steeple
Why do we talent into thunderous roar if it's nearly dead last in ST, only beating whirlwind and an empty GCD?
radiant plank
1>0
signal steeple
But that 1 could be champion's spear or a survivability talent instead?
Or is spear even worse
pale lava
@frail island no worries, just keep practicing and have fun
radiant plank
But that 1 could be champion's spear or a survivability talent instead?
spears like equal
but its ur question
do u want a lil more dps
or util
signal steeple
Well ideally DPS but if it's that crap maybe utility
restive granite
Is Thursday always shoulder and leg day for anyone else?
coarse nest
I just rotate PPL with dumbbells/bench and bodyweight at home
I fucked up my shoulder ego lifting with bad form senior year of HS, it’s popped and clicked ever sense probably should get it addressed honestly but that was over 10 years ago lol
restive granite
Had a similar shit happen when one friend came to us with an “ultimate army routine” when we were like 18ish
Total bs but my shoulder has been clicking since then haha
coarse nest
Bro!
I’m not alone 😂
It’s not painful it just clicks it’s weird
Even not under load
Like imagine casual walking where your arms slightly swing with your stride
I can feel it click sometimes
restive granite
Yeah, had it checked though. They told me its a “capsulitis”, don’t know the correct term in English
But shit never went away lol
coarse nest
Interesting I’d bet that’s me too
upbeat lantern
Is anyone able to help give any general feedback on my mythic log?
I'm a prot war main who is off-speccing as Fury for a mythic guild. I'm brand new to this and have never played fury on any of these fights either. I know for sure I wasn't always in melee range and focused on trying to stay alive but any general feedback would be helpful.
I think I still have too much crit from my prot build and my trinket/weapon situation could absolutely be better but here goes
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wk3YVTnKvj67ABRg?fight=9&type=damage-done&source=1
warm crag
holy hell you pressed healthstone and hpot and impending victory and ER on soulbinder
tulip glade
A couple questions for anyone who is willing to help me understand what it is I am suppose to be doing past the idea of priority. I am just getting into raiding and trying to learn the instances to be able to jump into M+ so keep that in mind with my dumb questions. First one is a lot of the stuff talked about above says things like hit rampage at greater then 110 rage. I am going to be honest, I never look at my rage bar. That thing lights up and I hit it. Now, I have just figured out that raging blow is better to hit, and to pretty much only hit rampage when I am not enraged, or raging blow is not available. I guess my question is why does it matter?
upbeat lantern
holy hell you pressed healthstone and hpot and impending victory and ER on soulb...
For re-clear we had some really messy attempts. Mostly on Loomithar and Forge, but yeah I was trying to stay alive on all the fights. Had no idea what I was doing not being tank
warm crag
yeah sorry i don't have too much insight since i hate reading logs for the current warrior iterations but you can certainly fix your opener, you spend the first 5 seconds of the fight unenraged and press your first bladestorm at 00:08
your uptime is horrendous on a boss where you should be very close to 100% but its a problem you're aware of and working on, it's daunting to play a role you haven't played yet in mythic for the first time
if you want good news you are having the opposite issue that most ppl have, you press every defensive button in the book and are not that good at dealing damage yet but that is much easier to learn than how to use your defensive kit
ye you croaked on loomithar and plexus maybe don't do that
low oak
If crit is our least desired stat why do we like cursed stone?
chrome plover
A couple questions for anyone who is willing to help me understand what it is I ...
raging blow simply does more, if you’re already enraged, rampage is worth less than raging blow
low oak
Or pacemaker/sacbrood
upbeat lantern
Loomithar had me in absolute hell lol
chrome plover
If crit is our least desired stat why do we like cursed stone?
least desired doent mean bad
those trinkets are tuned better than others
and csi is the only 1.5 min trinket
warm crag
Loomithar had me in absolute hell lol
if you want to put in the effort you can watch vods of other people killing those bosses and see what they do different with their positioning and cd usage
upbeat lantern
Having to swap to tangles and backpedal as it’s closing in what an awful feeling
warm crag
it sucks but it has to be done
upbeat lantern
if you want to put in the effort you can watch vods of other people killing thos...
I’ll do that, the other war in my raid just sat boss the whole time lol
warm crag
hes griefing the raid shrug
low oak
least desired doent mean bad
I forget what crit does for fury, but after looking at what were given ig that makes sense, i feel so leah’s could also be a good option
upbeat lantern
if you want to put in the effort you can watch vods of other people killing thos...
Good point is there a solid fury war that raids? I tend to watch critcake but he’s mostly m+
chrome plover
Good point is there a solid fury war that raids? I tend to watch critcake but he...
he tends to do commentaries of every boss i think?
winter shoal
I forget what crit does for fury, but after looking at what were given ig that m...
Crit for fury does crit
coarse nest
He’s also like the best Warrior pov for raid
chrome plover
so it's definitely a good start
warm crag
there is not a short supply of good fury warriors that raid
winter shoal
he tends to do commentaries of every boss i think?
Think he only has commentaries for last two this patch
chrome plover
oh
warm crag
i have vods up but im not claiming im the best, you can certainly find a billion vods when you search "loomithar mythic fury"
chrome plover
I forget what crit does for fury, but after looking at what were given ig that m...
the same as crit for most specs, chance to do more damage, we also have a couple of increased crit damage, but then we get a huge chunk of crit from recklessness with quite significant uptime so it's devalued a bit
low oak
Crit for fury does crit
No the extra effect
chrome plover
what extra effect
chrome plover
crits just crit
winter shoal
I mean technically fury has some extra crit interactions with RB and exe I think
Like bonus crit damage type shi
low oak
Ah ic, im coming from dk so im still getting used to not..lf crit lol
sharp wasp
Warrior getting Scion passive???!!!
chrome plover
there's also no extra effect of crit for dk, they just have a lot of crit interactions like icy death torrent, extending pillar, killing machine procs, increased crit damage
and no cd that gives a 50% crit chance steroid on a rly short cooldown
winter shoal
there's also no extra effect of crit for dk, they just have a lot of crit intera...
Don't frostscythe crits do like 4.5x damage
Or is that only with KM
chrome plover
with km yeah
winter shoal
fdk auto crits proc KM tho innit
low oak
Well i alwYs personally viewed fdk crit=km and fury crit=ooga booga
Anywho tq for the info
undone flower
But like he says, crit on fdk is the same as us if you hover it
sullen dove
def has something to do with the key level and not just the person running the mickey mouse group
warm crag
def has something to do with the key level and not just the person running the m...
when will we play valarante child game?
queen onyx
What is your experiences with hunters in lfg? Cuz since they buffed them I played with like 6 good hunters
Wasn't this class braindead huge dps?
undone flower
Wasn't this class braindead huge dps?
It is massive dps beyond comprehension yes, but as every specs, good players can be scarce in lower key lvl
I wouldn’t dare say any spec is braindead I play fury
tulip glade
I don't understand raidbots. It wants me to gem straight mastery/haste for all gems, and take the 2% movement speed gem. Don't gemming everything the same defeat the purpose of the movement speed increase?
twilit harbor
I don't understand raidbots. It wants me to gem straight mastery/haste for all g...
you still get 2% movement speed
yay
and strength, which might be worth more dps pore point than mastery
tulip glade
and it is showing to add a prismatic slot for my disc belt, when it can only have the one that I have in it? Like, it wants a second gem there
warm crag
and it is showing to add a prismatic slot for my disc belt, when it can only hav...
link
tulip glade
how?
warm crag
copy the link and then paste the link in the text box
warm crag
where is it saying to add a second gem into the belt
tulip glade
when I curse over it, it shows the gem that is in it, and a empty gem slot
warm crag
if you want it to minmax the gem colours for biggest crit effect/ms benefit you need to click these two checkboxes
warm crag
when I curse over it, it shows the gem that is in it, and a empty gem slot
that just a display error, just look at what gem its telling you to put into it
tulip glade
oh, looks like I will have to upgrade my raidbots. when I checked that it changed the iterarions to 6.1 million
warm crag
you can simplify down the sim a lot
i think a proper gem sim is still under the normal limit
tulip glade
do I just uncheck the gems I would not want to use?
sullen dove
yea shouldnt have more than 1 picked for every color
and dont pick the stamina orange gem
tulip glade
ok, thanks!
sullen dove
just kinda feelyvibes which gem is best but can do multiple sims if u want
like haste/mast mast/haste for those 2
and either verse haste or verse mast for the blue ones
and vv
or forgor one of the gems needs crit so like critmast or critverse or something
compact knot
and strength, which might be worth more dps pore point than mastery
its typically not anymore
the crit gem is gonna be like 20-25k dps after turbo boost i think
which is a pretty decent number
tulip glade
whats turbo boost?
compact knot
whats turbo boost?
they increase the ilvl cap on every item
by i think its 8?
or 10
i forgor
so the damage we do will go up big
tulip glade
oh! untill I start doing m+ that really doesnt mean much to me sadly.
devout totem
crafted gear get +6 so i guess regular items are getting +6 too
devout totem
oh! untill I start doing m+ that really doesnt mean much to me sadly.
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/the-war-within/turbo-boost-dinar-event-overview if you wanna read more about it
compact knot
idk i forgot
restive peak
just kinda feelyvibes which gem is best but can do multiple sims if u want
I just run 1 sim setup of gems then don't move them until I get a new piece/massively upgrade, then again I don't sim it everytime for awhile
It's very minor as long as you cover them all
gusty cloak
should i craft helm if its the biggest upgrade for me?
devout totem
show hps
fading sky
should i craft helm if its the biggest upgrade for me?
Theres no downside at this point rly
I wouldnt but alternative is waiting for vault
ivory sinew
hey guys, when we are in aoe siutation in m+ do we want to ensure we pop a rampage right before enrage ends or one global after enrage pops would be more ideal? just tring to determine if i can squeeze in one more RB instead of casting rampage first
olive wraith
Best to ramp
When you cast rb reap has a slight delay to proc. So if you wait till the very end reap could be outside of enrage
gaunt loom
is the final item level after turbo boost 729 or 730?
olive wraith
It’s 6 ilvl right?
sullen dove
dont think its any set number of ilvl
should probably just follows their like formula for ilvl upgrades thru tracks
i dont pay close attention to it but like it goes up by brackets of 13 as 3 +3's and 1 +4
so idk if we're on the cusp of a +3 and +4 or just 2 +3's
restive peak
I assume it'll be 730
Man it's gonna feel wild to have 730 weps+trinks next week, SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH
sullen dove
710 > +4 is 714, then 3 more 3's is 723, so presumably then > 727 > 730
so crafteds will be 727
tulip glade
ok, I am at a loss. I ran this sim https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/agU5JKLqDbibvDx5N2dKxL and did what it asked. regemmed my stuff to match it. Then I reran the sim with the new gems and now it shows this. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/88pGs1LN2EE36vPDvEmMAW It wants me to regem AGAIN!
WHY!?
sullen dove
well your first sim has 6 gems of the same type idk if that was intentional
doesnt seem liek you checked the box for use multiple gems
tulip glade
I didn't have the right box checked.
sullen dove
whereas the second sim is rainbow gems
tulip glade
so I checked it, ran it, gemmed to it.
sullen dove
the dps different shouldnt be based on the blasphemite tho
tulip glade
then ran it again and now I get the new one
sullen dove
or no in second sim it is the crit gem
not the movespeed one in the old sim
idk the second one seems more correct since its the damage blasphemite with actual rainbow gems but like 15k for swapping literally all of your gems isnt that crazy if u want to conserve gold a bit
still have champ/hero track rings would say better to save until you get a myth ring or can also craft one
cuz youll actually have to gem that
bit less wasteful to wait for that
tulip glade
I have the gold. I was just confused as to why it wanted me to swap it. maybe I didn't have the crit gem selected the second run through
sullen dove
the one on the bottom has crit gem the top one doesnt yea, not sure if you checked the boxes for use diff colors in first but eh up to you
dull magnet
how does Raging Blow trigger Reap?
sullen dove
4set
tulip glade
4p bonus
waxen vigil
anyone have a mouseover for pummel
tulip glade
#showtooltip Pummel
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead] Pummel; Pummel
olive wraith
Someone posted a focus macro
warm crag
doesnt matter
digital mauve
when we log and compare the dps it shows VS the one we actually do, what's the % difference we should expect since it's a perfect performance?
tulip glade
mine says 5 million, I do 3.1 I am at a loss. lol
thick fossil
Considering Sims are perfect scenarios, don't expect the same.
warm crag
when we log and compare the dps it shows VS the one we actually do, what's the %...
idk it doesnt really work this way and comparing this doesnt make too much sense
if you want an approximation you can "test" you can do a target dummy sim and then hit the target dummy
digital mauve
idk it doesnt really work this way and comparing this doesnt make too much sense
it's more for the boss
warm crag
but unless you're hitting the target dummy hundreds of times for the exact sim length you won't have a statistically relevant sample size
digital mauve
like fractillus
warm crag
sim exactly fractillus fight length and then go fight it thousands of times for exactly the same fight length
then you can compare your numbers to the sim numbers
otherwise you won't have a relevant answer lmao
thick fossil
Even frac has mechanics that push you off the boss. So it's not gonna be the same. Close, sure, same no.
digital mauve
I'm 703 ilvl and was doing 3.20 M, the sims shows 3.78 for a 4 minutes fight. I know my rotation just wanted to know if Im doing something wrong
warm crag
Even frac has mechanics that push you off the boss. So it's not gonna be the sam...
you can have 100% uptime on fractilus
thick fossil
Not if you get wall breaks.
warm crag
yes if you get wall breaks
warm crag
leap it and you never exit melee range shrug
digital mauve
leap it and you never exit melee range shrug
?
thick fossil
There will still be the empty global of Leap.
digital mauve
so how"s the performance for my ilvl?
warm crag
There will still be the empty global of Leap.
the empty global of an off gcd button
hey if you're not gonna press a button during that gcd your uptime will go down sure
warm crag
so how"s the performance for my ilvl?
idk go look at your ilvl parse
winter shoal
Spongus you're asking for a lot of critical thinking here
thick fossil
Or I should say the adjustment of using leap. Since even while it's a second you're pushed back you still have to break the wall.
warm crag
you dont have to physically hit the wall to break it
thick fossil
Wait a minute, your model doesn't have to touch the wall?
warm crag
have you literally never looked at a vod of someone else fight that boss
thick fossil
Why, it's stupid easy boss.
digital mauve
just checked my parse was 29
warm crag
its a stupid easy boss that can take <10 pulls if you prepped and >50 if you didnt
digital mauve
Activer 99.68%
thick fossil
We did it less than 10.
warm crag
getting knocked back spawns a projectile which breaks the wall, its not you that breaks the wall
still good practice to at least look at a good players vod of the boss you will pull that night shrug
warm crag
just checked my parse was 29
if your ilvl parse was 29 then you did badly in comparison to other people with your specific ilvl theres not much more to read into this than that
digital mauve
if your ilvl parse was 29 then you did badly in comparison to other people with ...
yeah I know
tulip glade
ok, so raidbots wants me to regem and I am ok with that. got em all like it asked but I notticed that it wants me to use 3 masterful sapphire, and only 1 masterful emerald. Seeing how our weights go str, mas, haste, ver, crit wouldn't I be better off with 3 emeralds and 1 sapphire?
digital mauve
it's surprise me a bit but idk
warm crag
ok, so raidbots wants me to regem and I am ok with that. got em all like it aske...
the sim has determined that 3 masterful sapphires are best for your character, why do you think a vaguely arbitrary stat weight that wasn't done with your gear at your ilvl is more accurate than the actual sim for your character?
warm crag
following stat weights is a very dated concept that was replaced by just simming top gear with your gear with your specific stats
tulip glade
ok, so with that in mind I am guessing it is bad to do weights and then use pawn?
-=ducks=- Don't hit me!
stoic star
Has any of the leaders in this discord made a video explaining all the huge class changes coming in Midnight?
Seeing all of the classes get dumbed down to align with console players and 1 button rotation wasn’t on my bingo card!
radiant plank
stoic star
Looks like they are mostly getting rid of a lot of fluff spells though
thick fossil
Stat weights, lol. Delete pawn.
stoic star
Are we getting uncapped AoE? That’s all I need to know 🤪
warm crag
ok, so with that in mind I am guessing it is bad to do weights and then use pawn...
i will attack your character if you utilize pawn in the year of 2025
(yes don't use pawn its not 2012 anymore)
tulip glade
do we ever use amber gems? I just noticed I didn't have any selected for my sim.
today is getting expensive.
unborn delta
they give just stam which is useless
tbh i use haste vers and mastery gems and the movespeed blasphemite. 6% ms much more noticeable than .45% crit
tulip glade
so the loss of the .15% crit is not worth it. got it!
unborn delta
i dont even use a crit gem
warm crag
amber is not worth ye
tulip glade
ok, thnaks!
coarse nest
Speed gem is where it’s at
Think I had 144% move speed on soulbinder reclear last night (the only one I happen to glance at move speed)
gaunt loom
TY
olive wraith
Are we getting uncapped AoE? That’s all I need to know 🤪
Like live?
unborn delta
they mean middlenight
stoic star
We have target capped aoe wdym
Idk these changes looking cringe. I hope they walk it back. I don’t know why they think screwing over all there long time fans to entice a small amount of new Xbox users is worth it but hey what do I know
Not shit I’m sure
analog kite
Ni Hao fine shyt
olive wraith
We have target capped aoe wdym
We are soft capped rn
cunning condor
is this worth getting?
olive wraith
Man death drive does a shit ton of heals
radiant plank
is this worth getting?
do u sim alot
olive wraith
Isn’t that up to you
cunning condor
well considering i have almost bis gear on my warrior i do play other characters
olive wraith
I’d personally rather wait
radiant plank
I just got the rare version
once or twice in 2 expacs did I need the 16mil iterations
eternal sundial
ancient olive
idiot question incoming
but
what does the extra percentage in the bracket things mean
like crit is at 14%
but what is the +6.51
is it just like
6% increased chance for crits?
compact knot
what does the extra percentage in the bracket things mean
thats how much extra percent you are getting from the number amount
4555 crit = 6.51%
(i think)
so you baseline have like 8% crit with talents
i think most specs have 5% baseline (dont fact check me)
unborn delta
5%baseline then fury gets up to 2% from fury tree and up to 2% from warrior tree i think?
compact knot
yeah might be rounding down
sour tundra
where the heck is everyone for keys
knotty sonnet
i'm struggling alot to do good aoe rn, but i dont have 4 set i guess that means alot in terms of aoe right ?
devout totem
i'm struggling alot to do good aoe rn, but i dont have 4 set i guess that means ...
yea, our main source of damage in dungeon come from the 4p bonus. till you get it, your aoe gonna be crap.
signal falcon
I think there’s enough catalyst charges now that you could just rip 4p on some suboptimal gear and be fine
azure holly
looking at a log I have on plex, does this account for stuff like spamming RB after BS?
it was a 95% so it seems like it's a bit misleading? surely I wouldn't get that high with so much wasted resource
remote bobcat
looking at a log I have on plex, does this account for stuff like spamming RB af...
i believe @winter shoal patched it to where brutal finish raging blows dont count but dont quote me on that
winter shoal
They don't count for highlighting inefficient casts, but will count for wasted rage
It's probably possible to account for that but tbh I hadn't even considered it
I'd need to look into how the wasted rage stuff is aggregated; resource generation metrics in logs are really fucky so it might be a lot of squeeze for very little juice
feral ivy
did i read this correct.. we can transmog our 2h wep to 1h weps
remote bobcat
did i read this correct.. we can transmog our 2h wep to 1h weps
probably going to happen yea
azure holly
I just can't parse well on Frac mythic, I really dunno if it's just gear or what, I can get 90-95 on the rest easily
https://wowanalyzer.com/report/2JYB7bTr3Zg1WdhV/1-Mythic+Plexus+Sentinel+-+Kill+(4:27)/Warrbean/standard
anyone who can help out? what am I missing?
coarse nest
PSF PRISONNNNNNNNNN
ggwp
warm rain
hey did they nerf reap the storm?
modest condor
no
feral ivy
Dimensius DEAD
gratzzzzz
winter shoal
Dimensius DEAD
Large
onyx linden
ty all 🙏
olive wraith
but now it's on the bottom lol
In keys?
iron portal
but now it's on the bottom lol
Skill issue
lost pasture
RIP in pepperoni SMF. You'll be missed. I wish you had ever gotten the chance to get off the ground...
iron portal
Wont be missed*
olive wraith
Would be better off just being a 3rd dps spec imo
olive wraith
Most of fury’s appeal is dual 2h
lost pasture
If only
Honestly my first foray into it was in wrath and I felt the same way, "Titans grip? 2 2H that's awesome!" But then Unholy DK lost their dual wielding... And since then it's all I want. My strength based super fast attack speed nonsense blender.
lost pasture
Barely, all their attacks are still done as a single attack broken into 2 instances of damage on the meters.
winter shoal
Honestly my first foray into it was in wrath and I felt the same way, "Titans gr...
outlaw
lost pasture
They also still have the option to 2H and their 1H 2H allegiance flip flops every other patch
Outlaw I'd agree with if it was an actual sword class. All their flashy stuff is pistols
smoky vale
me when unholy only swapped to 2hs with shadowmourne
lost pasture
Haha fair enough
smoky vale
otherwise you played 1hs every tier
lost pasture
Yuup
sand tide
imo 2 big stick unga bunga > 2 small stick unga bunga
winter shoal
me when unholy only swapped to 2hs with shadowmourne
in 2008 unholy played 2h the whole time I believe bc people didn't know about the morbin build
smoky vale
in 2008 unholy played 2h the whole time I believe bc people didn't know about th...
noobers
olive wraith
17 years ago 
winter shoal
actually IIRC in 3.0 the meta spec was like a 30/40 frost/unholy hybrid build that used dw 1h
and then blood was the meta dps spec for a bit
lost pasture
Fair, but 2 small stick go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr whereas 2 big stick go BRRR. more atks for smaller amounts but constantly is more appealing imo.
winter shoal
I was also a stupid idiot child back then though
smoky vale
i think towards the end of icc
winter shoal
So my pulse on the meta was not great
smoky vale
blood was equal to unholy
lost pasture
Frost was also the tank spec in wrath so there's that discrepancy
smoky vale
if you stacked arp
winter shoal
I don't think people really played blood as a tank spec until icc
night stream
how do you guys simm DPS for M+. what options you use
winter shoal
how do you guys simm DPS for M+. what options you use
1t 5m and 5t 5m, then use brain to compare
olive wraith
how do you guys simm DPS for M+. what options you use
What are you trying to compare
smoky vale
i see you typing
lost pasture
Is dungeon slice still dead?
left perch
Is dungeon slice still dead?
its not dead its just...interesting.
winter shoal
Is dungeon slice still dead?
I wouldn't use it personally but it's probably fine if you just want to compare one dslice sim to another
fury doesn't change a ton between 1t, 5t, 10t
winter shoal
Yes
lost pasture
Leap is treated more like a flashy teleport iirc, where warlock gate is a straight path
winter shoal
Leap is definitely not a teleport
you can and will hit things in transit
some things have a z axis though (like mugzee bombs) and some don't (like NK stars)
winter shoal
Yep
lost pasture
Would be cool if they standardized that stuff lol
hollow leaf
16 flood but felt rusty af
winter shoal
What da mage doin
lost pasture
Can't say I've seen many mages this tier myself. Idk how good arcane is these days
smoky vale
@balmy lion why did you get gapped lil gup
hollow leaf
solemn widget
Is double warrior fury on dimmy cursed?
smoky vale
no
hollow leaf
meh rank 11
felt kinda rusty
also bad trinks
well not "bad" trinks but not the good ones
smoky vale
meh rank 11
who is the guy thats rank 1
hollow leaf
Idk but I bet he's really cool and handsome
smoky vale
wait thats from todays key
lost pasture
I wish I had 30% of that skill lol
hollow leaf
"skill"
olive wraith
I wish I had 30% of that skill lol
Facts lmao
hollow leaf
hollow leaf
I'm not doing anything my friends just drag me to keys
lost pasture
Heh heh yeah...
Cries in S3 being my first 2500 this expansion
hollow leaf
Heh heh yeah...
*Cries in S3 being my first 2500 this expansion*
don't underplay it
congrats
olive wraith
You’re basically at 3k 
lost pasture
Holy priest is a hell of a thing in M+ these days. Feels bad, hectic, and unreliable
hollow leaf
yeah holy is not really meant for m+
lost pasture
Hence my 2500 lol
lost pasture
Eh yeah I guess.
Tbh I've been playing D4 the last two weeks. WoW is kinda back burner for me atm. I got what I wanted. I'll get my AotC eventually and then I can work on old shit like I do every expac end. Not a lot of reason to grind gear to replace it with normal dungeon blues week 1 lol
next jacinth
Got a while before the season ends plus boost will come and help.
lost pasture
True true
I'll probably pick up the warrior again then. I usually do. It's the priest and the warrior a lot these days. Super excited for midnight though since everyone is getting reduced to Cata era Arcane mage. And tbh, that is exactly my speed.
I loved raiding when it was 4 add-ons and your class. And 3 of those add-ons were UI and gambling lol.
I despise weakaura raiding. It's not even fun to watch RWF anymore past the first couple days cause it's 40 minutes of pulls to get timers so the programmers can craft a weakaura to then pull for 40 more minutes to fix weakaura bugs and repeat until boss dies.
Fury in Midnight is gonna be a lot of fun I feel, same with fire mage from what I've seen
pine vigil
guys 1 question mythic araz wep + 1 myth track wep or araz wep + craft?
graceful ruin
how does fury do its damage in m+? I feel like i'm being really outdamaged when I shouldn't be. are you just cooked in big packs in between bladestorm casts?
pine vigil
how does fury do its damage in m+? I feel like i'm being really outdamaged when ...
charge then pop all cds
whirlwind once and bladestorm
then use 4 skills
then whirlwind again
higher the key higher the damage
but yeah fury is doing sustain 10m dps overall
i am 1 week player tho someone who is experianced can do more maybe?
graceful ruin
i know the (basic) rotation, but I wanna know where the dmg comes from. seems like it's all reaping storm but thyen it barely does anything without BS
rocky zinc
do i press excute in big aoe pulls or is raging blow for reap the storms higher prio?
low oak
if you havent crafted a 2h yet is it even worth doing? doing 10+'s alr
low oak
🫡
hollow leaf
guys 1 question mythic araz wep + 1 myth track wep or araz wep + craft?
depends if you're using ascendence or not
afaik ascendence craft + writhing is the highest simming
thorny peak
is there a setting i need to use for stone idol cuz i cant understand why its simming so low
olive wraith
are you simming st
dense elbow
Can confirm that Reap hasn't been nerfed. Ya prob just forgot to BS at the start of every fight
whole yacht
Heh heh yeah...
*Cries in S3 being my first 2500 this expansion*
2500 is basically 3k. and 3k is basically 3.5k. so grats on 3.5k king
deep stag
Hey guys, what would be optimal stats for fury warrior ?
When i do a sim i end up at 23k haste, 21k mastery, 5k crit, 5k versatility. And when i check other warriors they have a lot more Versa like 12k...
Should i ignore Sim and put more in Versa?
olive wraith
Real talk though 12s are easier than 10s
olive wraith
Hey guys, what would be optimal stats for fury warrior ?
When i do a sim i end ...
Are you using stat weights?
deep stag
Are you using stat weights?
what do u mean ?
quaint summit
@edgy widget are u happy, finally a cheat death??
olive wraith
<@61282228017041408> are u happy, finally a cheat death??
An ass one 
edgy widget
<@61282228017041408> are u happy, finally a cheat death??
no it was shit in legion and it's worse now
as flavor, it's fine
as a talent point, it's beyond ass - should just be a PvP talent
deep stag
Or is that just top gear/droptimizer
Im using Top Gear
olive wraith
Im using Top Gear
Top gear is fine. Don’t worry about stat thresholds
deep stag
Top gear is fine. Don’t worry about stat thresholds
Ok, thx
onyx linden
if they make a private log public, after the new patch comes out, will they be visible with the rankings(%) they had?
in the "All" tab ofc
hollow leaf
<@61282228017041408> are u happy, finally a cheat death??
fury got 2 cheat deaths and neither are really a cheat death 👍
hidden stirrup
One is just Odyn's Favor from the Legion Artifact
"Just kill that thing that killed you, you got this bud"
hollow leaf
and the other one doesn't save you from an overkill
feral ivy
so did they get rid of AM?
olive wraith
Class tree
red berry
yeah its such a horrible talent especially to have at the end of a tree
which fury had dog capstones before
i dont particularly understand it as a decision
feral ivy
i see RA but i dont see AM
olive wraith
Am is in class tree
red berry
shared class tree
olive wraith
Bottom left iirc
winter shoal
better than bein gooned out ig
feral ivy
Class tree
AHHHH i see what u ment lol
feral ivy
think its my first grey ever
DIE
last fern
Am i reading this good or fury will not be capped at 5 anymore in midnight ??
winter shoal
#1423009037808570418 but it'll still largely be the same as now with imp ww cleave
olive wraith
Am i reading this good or fury will not be capped at 5 anymore in midnight ??
We aren’t capped at 5 on live
feral ivy
guys i have a question and i should know but just wondering.. for mythic NK u only get Mind controlled if u dont soak 3 only right?
olive wraith
Those don’t need to become soft capped
last fern
Well thats what i would like xd
last fern
1st pull of gambit thats why
olive wraith
We still do good damage there lol. That’s just not our niche and that’s fine
High prio/st is good imo
last fern
Ye i know, i just like big irrelevant numbers on details at times
last fern
We beat frost and Bm in st
That i dont think so at least for bm but sure
olive wraith
In their m+ tree? I’m fairly sure we do
Also wether we like it or not it does seem that bleeds might help bridge the gap in uncapped scenarios
Depending on tuning of course
warm crag
guys i have a question and i should know but just wondering.. for mythic NK u on...
if your health goes too low you also get mc'd but idk the exact health value
balmy shore
i thought it was if u die
balmy shore
like if u would have died you just get mc'd
winter shoal
if you have a druid cyclone you such that the thrall debuff expires while you're in the clone, you don't die and you just proceed with the fight as normal
the MC just ends and you're chillin
dapper goblet
Swordish for yellow
sullen dove
xeos for green
balmy shore
do we kill tn.........i
unborn delta
2500 is basically 3k. and 3k is basically 3.5k. so grats on 3.5k king
yea anything under 4k is basically the same
3.5k is kinda like aotc imo
charred flint
lost raid prog cuz spilled shit in my kb and now it is dead
awesome way to lose 200 bucks
olive wraith
3.5k is kinda like aotc imo
Don’t do me like that
desert zodiac
are the adds on forgeweaver immune to shockwave on mythic?
tired dragon
no
feral ivy
can someone help me.. how to i add a sound to a WA.. like i want to make a sound come out during ghost in mythic NK
balmy shore
should be able to under the "Actions" tab
cobalt kernel
if youre using bigwigs you can have it count before it goesout
stray ledge
any 1 have a good m plus build ?
olive wraith
Wowhead does
cobalt kernel
any 1 have a good m plus build ?
bleak olive
How exactly do I sim aoe using patchwerk, do I select 5 bosses and 5 minute?
Am I missing the number of targets option?
celest sierra
anyone else struggle to get into keys at 3300+ io?
smoky vale
oh shit
balmy shore
next time for sure
i think we're gonna try and raid earlier than our third day on monday
maybe like tomorrow
alskdjfalsikdfj
ahhhhhhh
ahhhhhh
young swan
that would be so epic
balmy shore
we've also never tried before but
this is our first ever time trying
amidst our tanks being replaced at the beginning of the tier and then one of our tanks leaving mid tier
would be super epic
verbal rivet
I only leave guilds for not liking the raid leads/officer core
smoky vale
he has a guild hopping problem
well what am i supposed to do when my gm was a knwon weirdo
sullen dove
how bout your last guild
verbal rivet
well what am i supposed to do when my gm was a knwon weirdo
Be weirder, pull up with train facts
mortal siren
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JhZbQy1T2rjwqFzA?fight=7&type=damage-done
Why this warrior damage low
verbal rivet
Oh I understand, I’m just trying to joke with it
Treating the raid roster like a dating sim
But being creepy with it
young swan
well what am i supposed to do when my gm was a knwon weirdo
i know what you are
olive wraith
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JhZbQy1T2rjwqFzA?fight=7&type=damage-done
...
Not enough reap
mortal siren
They just pressing buttons slow?
verbal rivet
Can you tell one button from logs?
olive wraith
Logs usually count out of combat too I’m pretty sure
sullen dove
altho looking at casts i see it ends ate like 26:20 ish
olive wraith
But also probably missed a few bs on fresh pull
olive wraith
Oh weird
sullen dove
maybe a little bit of running between packs counting as "in combat"
but seems accurate enough to count cpm in combat
should be like at least 10 higher prolly anyway no
mortal siren
Well what does y'alls CPM look like on Priory?
mortal siren
ty
olive wraith
I have a 15 that’s 62.3 cpm
olive wraith
Ya probably just not using reap enough
mortal siren
How many casts of Bloodthirst do you have?
olive wraith
184
smoky vale
i know what you are
IT WAS HELL MAN
mortal siren
Oh wait can you explain that to me like I'm 12, I don't play Fury
mortal siren
Oh so its RB they're not hitting enough?
mortal siren
Okee dokee! I'll tell them ty!
olive wraith
Get em over here. Probably be easier 🤣
potent citrus
the 3 deaths probably dont help
potent citrus
overwhelmeds only 20s so if they die, by the time they get back those stacks are gone and you cant really proc reap
vale surge
yo guys does mastery affect the slayer stuff like reap the storm or slayer strikes
vale surge
huh i wonder why my sim wants vers then
compact knot
probably because you have diminishing returns on mastery
oblique trail
Because vers effects all of your damage
vale surge
isn't dr like 19k
untold trench
I've always liked
compact knot
once you start hitting diminishing returns vers starts to be better by quite a decent amount
untold trench
I really hope fury doesn't become too slow.... One of my favorite things about it is the power in the speed
oblique trail
And you likely just have too much mastery and not enough vers, so the sim simply recommends more vers
untold trench
It's still very early days though
oblique trail
isn't dr like 19k
Don't think about absolute stat values
compact knot
I really hope fury doesn't become too slow.... One of my favorite things about i...
when the spec is slower the spec typically is better IMO
gameplay wise and damage wise
vale surge
i'm at like 16k mastery now after swapping to haste vers ring
oblique trail
Just because you've hit DR on a stat, doesnt mean the stat isn't still worth getting more of
vale surge
well yea but i was just saying that cause i'm pretty sure i wasn't at DR for mastery
untold trench
gameplay wise and damage wise
IDK if it's like fury at every start of an expansion where it's so slow you're waiting for rage it'll be boring lol
But if it's balanced well then it'll be fine I suppose
verbal rivet
IDK if it's like fury at every start of an expansion where it's so slow you're w...
I doubt it, didn’t feel like that in Nerubar
oblique trail
There's not much context to go off, but tldr is if a sim recommends more or less of a stat, youre typically fine just following it
vale surge
ye i don't mind it tbh vers is always nice to have, the damage reduction is helpful in every scenario
one of my favorite specs to play is outlaw cause of giga vers stacking making them insanely tanky so more vers is always a plus in my books
verbal rivet
one of my favorite specs to play is outlaw cause of giga vers stacking making th...
How are the outlaw changes looking?
compact knot
who listening to the new taylor swift songs
sullen dove
nobody
verbal rivet
who listening to the new taylor swift songs
My GF is staying up late rn and I’m getting updates. I’m listening to it tomorrow now.
bleak olive
Can I ask how people aim for m+ aoe, I see people saying 5+ targets but I also see ‘number of bosses’ option in patchwerk
oblique trail
Id recommend just patchwerk 5 min 1 target
compact knot
My GF is staying up late rn and I’m getting updates. I’m listening to it tomorro...
the one with sabrina carpenter is actually pretty damn good
oblique trail
Fury is lucky in the sense that for anything but trinkets, you can just typically sim for st, and the result will be basically as good for aoe too
Trinkets you're just better off using common sense, experience, and looking at what other people use
verbal rivet
the one with sabrina carpenter is actually pretty damn good
Dope, I’ll have to watch for it
oblique trail
What
compact knot
thats a weird gkick
oblique trail
Either there's way more to that story, or the guild was not worth being in to begin with
junior gale
keyboard broke from all the slurs he was typing
charred flint
Eh they were pretty mad with me when i asked RL why I was being benched with The logs I had
And after keyboard was donezo so was I i think
oblique trail
I wouldn't exactly think too highly of someone using their logs as a reason to be in for a boss or not either
charred flint
Not logs specifically
verbal rivet
Either there's way more to that story, or the guild was not worth being in to be...
Leaning towards way more lmao
charred flint
Was just asking why I was out and used as an argument that i didnt really die much during prog and did everything they asked me to p much and was getting benched for trial ppl
During prog that IS
I did talk shit about Charlie Kirk tho so that must left a bad impression xd
oblique trail
I would generally leave politics out of guilds or anything else related to the game
oblique trail
Was just asking why I was out and used as an argument that i didnt really die mu...
And if trials are good, and their class is well suited for a fight, its not unusual to bring them in for a prog fight
charred flint
Eh maybe i was too eager to play but idk It was like 5 messages
Well shit
Happens
bleak olive
Fury is lucky in the sense that for anything but trinkets, you can just typicall...
Ok thanks good to know. Is this because of our passive cleave through WW? If st is good, aoe is too therefore?
oblique trail
More or less
charred flint
I think so with the paid version
oblique trail
is there any way to sim all crafting options on raidbots
Droptimiser does, but without embellishments
charred flint
Not sure you can do embelishments
oblique trail
Embellishments you need to do top gear for
undone flower
How many iterations is free raidbot ?
300k ?
I think you can do every stats combination - crit with free raidbot
undone flower
I have the middle one I can do all of them
What bumps the combinations are gems and enchants, which I don’t sim when I do crafts
deft goblet
Hi im new playing warr and i was wondering is it worth it 2 craft 2 2 handed weapons or just 1 + 1 hc one is good enough?
sullen dove
if u do 10s would ideally never craft a 2nd weap is a gigantic waste of crests and hope for vault weapon
Once crests uncapped tho and if still that omega unlucky prolly fine enough to do so
but like idk unless u have like 200 gilded u literally can’t spend would say don’t
undone flower
I dont think so
every stats combination of 3 crafts (wrist, belt and ring)
olive wraith
That’s a lot of combos
undone flower
damn i'm glad i hold my crests this week tbf
humble tendon
Good day. In rotation do i use blood thirster or just rampage raging and exevute plus gcds?
humble tendon
Well i did
I played fury for quite a while this season
Wowhead mentions it one time in rotation just
And personally i was using it more than once
sour frigate
Bloodthirst only if u cant do any overwhelm
olive wraith
It’s pretty low on the prio
humble tendon
Oh so like a filler?
sour frigate
Only if bs is not available at the start
olive wraith
It’s bottom prio just above ww (if you already have cleave stacks)
undone flower
and it can happen you have to press BT as filler / mostly outside of reck, so yes you press it more than once
undone flower
you don't care about the crit of BT
humble tendon
Ok so how do i know when to use it if i go without that
undone flower
you press if you have not everything above in the wowhead rotation available, which can happen
undone flower
you need to read wowhead rotations as an algorithm, from top to bottom, and each time you do an action, you restart the checks
humble tendon
And spam the raging and rampage
olive wraith
Did you actually read the prio list
undone flower
if you struggle understanding you have this
undone flower
Wow is not sequenced rotation (meaning you do a strict order of spells to follow), it is priority rotation (dynamic on what procs, available, context)
undone flower
opener or CD usage can be sequences of spells, but overall it is a priority rotation
humble tendon
But i am confused anout when to cast bloodthirst since i do not watch for stacks or stuff. I just have the weak aura for the execute and basicly whem gcds are avaible i use em then spam 2 buttons and then execute when sound with proc
I saw it being least prio on the list
In that way how i can find the right time to use that?
undone flower
for example imagine i don't have bladestorm available here : i use bt because i can't raging blow or execute
i had a hard time taking a screenshot of this yes.
signal steeple
damn i'm glad i hold my crests this week tbf
Dude what is your ilvl? How are you simming 400k above me at 717 with BiS trinkets?
signal steeple
whew
tulip glade
ok, I have been messing with raidbots and gemming for way to long now and I am as confused now as I was before I left for work. I ran a sim this morning to try to fix some of the things I had wrong. In doing so I got his sim. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/88pGs1LN2EE36vPDvEmMAW I swapped out the gems that it was asking me to after asking in here if it mattered where the gem was placed and was told nope. didn't matter so long as the number was right overall. Got it. I then regemmed to what raidbot told me to. Now when I run a sim with the gems that it told me to do, I get this sim. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hJVCiXkrrgvrWMBsmErATD Whish is telling me to regem once more to something diffrent then what it had me do before. What am I doing wrong here? Can anyone help me figure this out please?
signal steeple
That's normal, it's called margin of error
It means your gem change was not impactful
tulip glade
some of the things that have me confused are it is telling me to change from Culminating blasphemite to Culminating blasphemite.
signal steeple
some of the things that have me confused are it is telling me to change from Cul...
Position of gems in gear is irrelevant
tulip glade
but it says if I change them I will gain 105,915 dps. thats 2%.
signal steeple
Quality change?
undone flower
the biggest dps gain is if you don't have AOE talent
tulip glade
they are all level 3
signal steeple
Oh now that's interesting
snow edge
Run the sim without your talent changes
signal steeple
Make sure talents are the same
undone flower
tulip glade
they are
undone flower
2% is just your talents
tulip glade
the talets are the same. both are set to my single target raid build
undone flower
second sim, your equipped is raid multi tar soul/forg/nexus
signal steeple
Busted
undone flower
and you have SINGLE TARGET RAID talents for the sim
tulip glade
wait, so even if I select what spec to use in raidbots it will not use that? Both sims show single target raid next to it
undone flower
i will not bother to search the line where your current gear is with the ST talent on all these rows
snow edge
wait, so even if I select what spec to use in raidbots it will not use that? Bo...
You're getting mixed up - it is using the spec in the sim, but the 105k DPS is associated with the talents not the gems
undone flower
if the gems difference is like 0.2-0.1-0% after you correct this, you can stop your search, it is margin of error
tulip glade
ok, so to make sure I understand what I should be doing I need to be in the spec when I type /simc in game, and then select that same sim in raidbots when doing the sim? ok, that makes sence.
signal steeple
For best results yes. The sim is still correct, your equipped is not
tulip glade
same spec, not same sim
ah! you all rock. Sorry for being silly. I am still trying to figure this stuff out.
ok, rerunning it now.
undone flower
same spec, not same sim
if you have lines with this showing, it means this combination have a different talent build than equipped, if you want to prevent future potential mistakes
tulip glade
OH! I just assumed it was like. yeah, that is what you use.
grand raft
I have a question about prio list/rotation. In some of guides on yt i saw that i have to keep enrage rolling and spam RB. Only use rampage to refresh enrage or if i am about to cap on rage. But when i do that wowanalyzer on logs tells me that i am using builders instead of rampage. Ofc i use exec when one of 3 conditions are available. I saw also ppl use 2 RB following rampage for slaughtering strike i guess. Can someone explain me what should i do then? Keep spamming RB and refreshing enrage or watching slaughtering strikes buff or use rampage whenever possible to avoid capping rage.
undone flower
if i take the position of the top gear, the thingy is not there since it is same talents as all lines but the equipped
tulip glade
ah, makes total sence. Thanks Happy! you as well Ryzor!
yup. only 3k dif now. So many wasted gems bough and socketed. hahahaha
olive wraith
I have a question about prio list/rotation. In some of guides on yt i saw that i...
Rb spam is for keys only.
Not sure if you meant for keys or raid
undone flower
yup. only 3k dif now. So many wasted gems bough and socketed. hahahaha
i don't bother with gem sims unless i have big not temporary stats shifts/raiding soon, if yes, i do just the ring enchants, if none are changed, i don't bother looking into gems
tulip glade
ok, I will keep that in mind.
tulip glade
I swapped to the crit gem thinking it would help me over the movement speed one and then it just snowballed on me.
undone flower
ok, I will keep that in mind.
And if the robot god seems to change everything to focus more on 1 stat, don’t forget to try the cloak gem change it can save gold
tulip glade
like changing from pure chronomatic fiber to something else?
undone flower
yes, for example when i got the raid neck (the 8k vers one), i lost a bunch of mastery, just changing the cloak gem to mastery was enough to be at the usual 0.1% or so diff
signal steeple
Have you tried turning your keybinds on and off again?
tulip glade
ah. neat, I would never have thought of that.
grand raft
Not sure if you meant for keys or raid
I mean for raids. So i must get it wrong. How is it on raids then?
tulip glade
ok, working on my opener now. easy question but might be weird. I have seen some say that I should hit reck, then charge, hit avatar, and this is where it gets spicy... Do I next hit rampage to enrage, or just hit bladestorm and storm bolt while spinning?
undone flower
what i use
grand raft
I use reck and avatar shortly before pull then i charge and hit rampage to enrage then bladestorm
Also i use roar before bladestorm but dunno of that is correct
tulip glade
I used to hit roar, but now when I look at the priority list is is second to last so I just hit when it nothing else is up pretty much.
to be honest, I am thinging about dropping it and picking up a defensive cuz I am still learning and like to have a "oh dang, I messed up and might die" button
olive wraith
I mean for raids. So i must get it wrong. How is it on raids then?
The first half of what you said sounds correct. We do not track or stack slaughtering strikes unless it’s directly after a bladestorm
Ramp at 115 rage or if you need to enrage
tulip glade
I am bad at looking at my rage bar. I think I am in panic mode most of the fights and tunnel vision my action bars while looking up like every couple seconds.
native blade
Can you simulate routes specifically on raidbots with the expert sim mode under the footer section? or is fury not optimized for it?
tulip glade
ok, that was much better. gained half mill dps. now I need to make a weakaura to sound when rampageis over 110 to help me focus on that.
undone flower
Can you simulate routes specifically on raidbots with the expert sim mode under ...
not optimized, the apl doesn't have lines to hold CDs
like bladestorm hold for next pack is not in the apl, so....
native blade
like bladestorm hold for next pack is not in the apl, so....
So for m+ i basically just sim patchwerk 5 targets?
undone flower
i do ST sim personnally
native blade
i encounter a very weird issue
undone flower
but patchwerk 5 is a choice for others yes
native blade
for some reason raidbots no matter what i sim wants me to STACK versa
even tho im already at 9.5k
undone flower
we do stack vers yes
native blade
my crit for example is only 2k
undone flower
my crit for example is only 2k
we hate crit yes
native blade
if i compare this to top parses they have 3x the amount of crit and less versa
so idk
ye, i trust in the math
i just thought its weird
undone flower
idk i have 15k vers
undone flower
don't overrate the white gem
native blade
but on radier io everrryyyyone has it on
smoky vale
be me with 15k vers haste 20 mastery
undone flower
basically it is be me 20 haste mastery and vers go megabonk
native blade
these are my stats currently
vers is 9.5k tho ingame
idk why it shows less in sim
prolly due to versa embellishment
undone flower
it would be logic the robot god want vers tbf
native blade
it would be logic the robot god want vers tbf
thing is im woried the raidbot has issues calculating versa
cause in the report it shows 8k when i have 1.500 more ingame
unbuffed
prolly the reason it recommends me to stack more
undone flower
no really, you reached the soft cap on haste and mastery
so now it wants our third stat basically
which is vers
it is something that started happening in S2 when you reach max ilvl
grand raft
The first half of what you said sounds correct. We do not track or stack slaught...
Ok so should i keep doing 2RB to rampage thing? Or just Watch rage and do eveything else (RB/exec) till i get cap or enrage about to fall and then use rampage? Idk IF u know what i mean 😆
native blade
no really, you reached the soft cap on haste and mastery
what do you say about my idol simming worse than ara kara trinket 
olive wraith
Ok so should i keep doing 2RB to rampage thing? Or just Watch rage and do eveyth...
There no correct amount of rb before ramp
undone flower
what do you say about my idol simming worse than ara kara trinket <:monkahmm:138...
if you do a ST sim, yes it is worse than ara kara trinket
olive wraith
Ramp is for enrage. Or you press it at 115
native blade
if you do a ST sim, yes it is worse than ara kara trinket
5t
undone flower
what ilvl are the two ? and third trinket is ?
undone flower
feather as the antenna ?
undone flower
you still have the delve belt ?
native blade
DISC ye
undone flower
maybe it's crit being an issue
native blade
my hc belts/craft doesnt sim higher yet
undone flower
if you use the crit chains belt thingy
undone flower
antenna gives lot of crit indeed
undone flower
i use the haste one
I never simmed the idol myself but I don’t see the cause of this sorry
tulip glade
ok, for opener. I hit my fancy macro to use both av and reck, charge in, and then I hit rampage to get enraged before hitting bladestorm and storm bolt right? Issue is charging in only gets me 40 rage (20 unbuffed, but doubled to 40 via reck). now I am standing there waiting for enough rage to hit rampage. nothing that I have read is dealing with this issue.
undone flower
I will look on my char if I have the same result with idol
undone flower
ok, for opener. I hit my fancy macro to use both av and reck, charge in, and the...
You have reck before Ava in your macro ?
tulip glade
#showtooltip recklessness
/use 13
/use Avatar
/use Recklessness
/use Thunderous Roar
/use Odyn's Fury
undone flower
Reck must be before avatar
tulip glade
k, thanks!
undone flower
And your macro will never cast odyn’s fury
tulip glade
yeah, I don't even know why I still have it in there. I don't even have the skill.
yup, much better
flint osprey
Reck doubles your Rage gained and Avatar gives you Rage. If you cast Avatar first it's not doubled.
undone flower
what do you say about my idol simming worse than ara kara trinket <:monkahmm:138...
i have ara kara = idol on my side, i can't figure out on my side
olive wraith
Rip midnight opener
grand raft
There no correct amount of rb before ramp
Thx for helping me understand.
undone flower
and i do have a difference in my haste and crit vs ingame, but i don't know enough how sim tech works to question it
and I lose crit and haste % by being raid buffed it seems
tulip glade
I have the skill frenzied enraged, so I should not use the elusive gem right? That is how I am reading it on wowhead. they don't stack, and enrage makes me quick anyhow
it's just that for some reason I really think the movement is better overall.
grand raft
Hello again, is there a way to create an aura that will play a sound for me when my rage is at 115? Or anyone know how to do this stuff?
tropic inlet
Is 5minutes 5 patchwerk still the way to go to sim aoe?
radiant plank
idk is your trash pull lasting 5minutes and is it only 5 targets
or is it maybe 60s and 8or 10 targets
tropic inlet
Well if you chain pull it lasts even more that 5 min
Than*
And we are limited from WW +4 targets cleave damage
Are dungeon slice and hectic add cleave good for m+ sims?
pine vigil
i always sim ST lol
sour frigate
Hello again, is there a way to create an aura that will play a sound for me when...
Yes press new indication and chose first thingy there should be options for resource iirc
grand raft
Yes press new indication and chose first thingy there should be options for reso...
I’ll try that later thanks for tips
dense elbow
Is 5minutes 5 patchwerk still the way to go to sim aoe?
I found 4min sims to be more representative of how m+ works out. You sim to minmax your strengths, not really to find the number you will do. As we are capped to 5, that is what is the most interesting (that and ST)
I also sim 10t once in a while, but it never moves the needle of what I chose to follow
Prio dam is what we do better than most, and is what I myself put weight on
tropic inlet
I found 4min sims to be more representative of how m+ works out. You sim to minm...
Interesting. I’ll try
plain oak
Ho guys what I started playing fury recently, I think I’m missing something in aoe, i should always keep whirlwind buff active and that’s ok, then should I only use rampage when I’m not enraged or also when capped on fury? Also i rarely use bloodthirst and last, should I use Execute only with 2 sudden death or 2 Marks?
tropic inlet
And if the robot god seems to change everything to focus more on 1 stat, don’t f...
Good tip
dense elbow
Ho guys what I started playing fury recently, I think I’m missing something in a...
Dumbed down list on how to do things in order of importance:
Keep WW buff up
Be enraged
Press Raging blow after you have baldestormed the pack once
(Keep next bladestorm for the next pull)
No bladestorm on pull? Use Bloodthirst before Raging Blow, 5 times, then use Raging Blow again as before
Finally, use execute, then Rampage, then use Bloodthirst
Play it in that order and you will be doing well enough, for content till you got an understanding of the gameplay
tropic inlet
Ho guys what I started playing fury recently, I think I’m missing something in a...
Rampage if not enraged or at 115 rage (you can waste rage only after bladestorm to spam more RB)
Bloodthirst Is rare to use (go to wowhead prio list)
Just use the WA, for execute it will tell you when to use it
dense elbow
Don't even care about rage, honestly
Just RB as long you are enraged and WW stacks are ready
If you start to press ramp/exe/bt, when you could have done RB, you lose a lot of AoE dam and fast
tropic inlet
There are higher prio than RB even in AoE
dense elbow
Not anything a new player needs to worry about
Just RB, you will be top dam and by a mile
dense elbow
Now you know