fury

[olive wraith]

We like bleees

[iron plaza]

Dk by the looks of it

[young swan]

half this shit wont even make it to live

[restive peak]

Is it JUST DK?

[narrow onyx]

Frost DK at least, I think Shadow Priests do as well

[radiant plank]

locks

[restive peak]

Might give us some insight into what they'll be like

[narrow onyx]

I've only glanced at the specs I've dabbled in

[radiant plank]

or destro

[quiet breach]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/combat-addons-disabled-in-end-game-content-in-midnight-378679

[olive wraith]

Odyns getting base enrage is pretty solid

[deep sapphire]

I think we’re screwed guys.

[olive wraith]

Let’s hope it’s actually tuned to do damage though

[iron plaza]

Is Alpha on rn or when is it ?

[olive wraith]

Tomorrow

[iron plaza]

And epic owners get guaranteed access ?

[wraith wharf]

i notice that rampage now replaces slam, good change for low levels.

[earnest shuttle]

with this alpha warrior tree, we're done, our glory days of damage is over until they fix stuff, let's see how it works in the end

[proven hornet]

other classes already have apex talents listed

wtf

[undone flower]

beta in a month+ i guess

[olive wraith]

How would you know this lol

[limpid hound]

Should we close down the discord?

[olive wraith]

No

[summer zephyr]

yes

[compact knot]

it already did

[undone flower]

no

[wraith wharf]

we arent a bunch of whiny babies like paladins

[olive wraith]

With an extra talent

[wraith wharf]

quit asking to shutdown the discord

[stiff furnace]

Not without an extra talent

[compact knot]

i see

[narrow onyx]

DK: All
DH: The new one
Druid: All except Guardian
Evoker: None
Hunter: Just Survival
Mage: All
Monk: All
Pally: Holy and Rest
Priest: All
Rogue: Sin
Shaman: Enh
Lock: All
Us: None

[heavy galleon]

so you think fury at midnight is on a better way than TWW ?

[olive wraith]

🔮

[earnest shuttle]

we can see blizzard's favorites hehe

[narrow onyx]

Yes, but also No

[undone flower]

evoker has the additional hero talents, one of them is the tier set

[young swan]

no it didnt

[restive peak]

We'll know soon then

[deep sapphire]

Blizzard saw that we were Meta in keys this season and decided to ruin our entire careers.

[young swan]

we have to talent for that

[restive peak]

And fury is extremely good rn on live, if we're even equivalent in midnight we'll be happy

[sullen dove]

🔮

[olive wraith]

We are gaining things people have been wanting

Utility

[young swan]

frenzy iron fur is sick

[olive wraith]

Agreed

[earnest shuttle]

we're good just because of our tier, starting next expansion tier effect is gone and we back to shiet

[hardy cargo]

fucking so real

[olive wraith]

Can actually tab target now lol

[undone flower]

the class tree is really JUICY

[narrow onyx]

If they're gonna kill Dragon Roar, which I'm okay with, Champion's Spear needs variable targeting options like Shadow Crash or Flame Strike

[quiet breach]

can someone smart read this and tell me if I can still track stuff like enrage timer, whirlwind stacks, mfe, sudden death with weakauras?

[olive wraith]

Did you read the rampage talent

[deep sapphire]

I am grateful for the Frenzy change cause now we’re not screwed if we have to switch targets.

[young swan]

u have no idea what ur talking about so please stop until you do

[compact knot]

lock doesnt have all

[undone flower]

• rend/tc rend choice nice for arms (for me)

[narrow onyx]

At least on WoWhead they do.

I'm talking about the new Apex Talents, not Hero Talents

[restive peak]

So everyone loses their tier sets as well for starters

[restive peak]

and ^ this

[compact knot]

i see

[balmy shore]

VSALORSTONES DELETED

[solemn heart]

Hekilli is dead ?

[proven hornet]

seeing how are trees working in other classes, fury warrior apex talent will be either about reck or rampage but most likely reck

[balmy shore]

BYE GIRL 👋 (GIRL IS VALORSTONES)

[narrow onyx]

Yeah our AoE is propped up 100% by the tier set

[quiet breach]

cap

[deep sapphire]

It is interesting to see that Mountain Thane Fury will be able to do use Rend so we’ll have so many bleeds.

[proven hornet]

it is always about middle talent

[sullen tendon]

Any fury changes

[balmy shore]

they just said it in the q&a don't say cap to me

[grand verge]

what do you guys sim for M+? Patchwerk 5 or 8 Targets? 1:30 or 5 min?

[narrow onyx]

Nope, same as it is today

[wild mural]

nope its real

[quiet breach]

no fkkin. wayyyyyy

[undone flower]

they said it yes

[young swan]

so many

[sullen tendon]

Im talking about the midnight stuff thet came out today

[young swan]

like a lot

[olive wraith]

Scroll up

[narrow onyx]

Yeah it's the same spec

[inland flame]

:CrabRave: :CrabRave: :CrabRave: VALORSTONES ARE DEAD :CrabRave: :CrabRave: :CrabRave:

[olive wraith]

Read Archi post

[narrow onyx]

(nah I'm just fucking with you)

[sullen tendon]

I can’t

[olive wraith]

Y

[narrow onyx]

We're getting basically a whole new tree for both Class and Spec

[lean heart]

ret

[olive wraith]

I have a feeling first tier is gonna be bleed focused

🔮

[deep sapphire]

I just don’t know if this new talent tree is it though homies.

[olive wraith]

I think it’s better

[young swan]

its pretty fuckin good lol

[restive peak]

We play arms non bleed option then yolo

[young swan]

pathing is a bit wacky

[lean heart]

its very good for first iteration

[young swan]

bs/of choice node is weird

[olive wraith]

[narrow onyx]

I mean, Bleed makes more sense for Fury than Arms tbh. just like thematically

[olive wraith]

I don’t mind the bs choice node

[restive peak]

There's def some cleanup needed BUT this is a good skeleton, we lost mostly dogshit, don't love the bleed buffs etc

[radiant plank]

thane vs slayer

[narrow onyx]

the Berzerker should be the bleed spec not the tactician

[restive peak]

If I'm a berserker w 2 weps I'm looking to kill you, not cut you a few times first

[young swan]

based

[balmy shore]

pathing weird but it's early so not stressin

[deep sapphire]

We’re gonna have like 6,000 bleeds as Mountain Thane.

[young swan]

i mean just realistically ur gonna make them bleed a lot more

like almost twice as much

[balmy shore]

i think it's got some cool stuff going on

[lean heart]

some very good ideas in the tree for sure

[narrow onyx]

There's a LOT od dead end nodes, super weird

[restive peak]

I'ma make em dead a lot more too

[balmy shore]

new persona

[lime perch]

Have the is waryor gonna be meta in 12.0 questions started yet ?

[undone flower]

new emote

[compact knot]

man even execute has a 4 second buff tied to it now

💀

[olive wraith]

Which

[narrow onyx]

one more 4 second buff and we're just gonna be 1-2-3-4 the spec

[olive wraith]

Sorry I’m on mobile

Can’t really look easily

[deep sapphire]

Do you think Mountain Thane will take Reckless Abandon over Avatar for more bleeds?

[compact knot]

all 4 buttons have a 4 second buff tied to them

[olive wraith]

I think so

[wild mural]

jhin

[restive peak]

We do not know enough about squished numbers etc yet to even remotely answer that confidently

[mossy pelican]

FOUR

[tidal kindle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284226322585354241/1422985839817785376/image.png?ex=68deaa56&is=68dd58d6&hm=e12fce8de7a68fee3215cc6e6d7cf20c4b6edc80aa323188d1d44e2c3e2c40a5&

[wild mural]

real

[tidal kindle]

[balmy shore]

🪓 🪓

[wild mural]

DF S2? maybe

[balmy shore]

me in midnight

[mossy pelican]

Can we bribe someone?

Blizz devs in here can pm me

[compact knot]

then rampage enrages you which is like 4 or 5 seconds i forget

[sullen tendon]

OMGOMGOMG YESSSSSS RAVAGER IS GONE THANK TOU BLIZXARD YESSSSS FUCK RAVAGER

FUCK YOU RAVAGER

[balmy shore]

did ppl hate ravager

[mossy pelican]

I do

[olive wraith]

Surge doesn’t look too bad

[wild mural]

ravager slayer arms 🥀

[olive wraith]

The others might be a bit cringe

[narrow onyx]

Generally speaking, people just don't like taking Ground Target AoE abilities

[compact knot]

surge is fine probably

[calm swallow]

ouch

[mossy pelican]

Ravager is like an ability with a condom on, no feeling

[restive peak]

I love spinning personally

[compact knot]

missed one

[wild mural]

you are using the wrong condoms my friend

[compact knot]

this one is fine though kinda

[south kayak]

this one is 12 seconds

it's fine

on crit

[restive peak]

Hopefully at least tuned in a way where it's ignored

[rustic cape]

Am I seeing no avatar for fury?

[compact knot]

yeah ik

[south kayak]

basically 100% perma

[restive peak]

and just happens

[mossy pelican]

Idk bruv I’ve been married 11 years can’t say anymore KEK

[sullen tendon]

RAVAGER IS GONE HALLELUJAH

[restive peak]

RA+Ava choice node now

[compact knot]

the 4 second one though

zzzz

[balmy shore]

me too i prefer bs because bs fucking owns but i didn't mind rav

[sullen tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-dean-winchester-jensen-ackles-happy-jump-gif-17332939

No more ravage

[restive peak]

I didn't hate rav I just didn't "like" it

[hardy cargo]

I liked ravager in seasons it felt good to press but I want a fan in tww

[restive peak]

I guess is the best way to put it

[wild mural]

before slayer I was a BS hater but it feels alright

[mossy pelican]

yea that

[wild mural]

I liked ravager idk

[hardy cargo]

I didnt enjoy how in s2 it just felt like I was pressing to fish for tb procs

[balmy shore]

ig i keep thinking about when we couldn't interrupt or storm bolt in bs and i was like hell yea rav

[sullen dove]

Guildy said valorstones gone next xpac idk where source from but big

[balmy shore]

but that's long gone..... wow time flies..

[sullen dove]

@young swan u like ur 600 stone weapon upgrade

[balmy shore]

cap

[cobalt relic]

DIE TONIGHT

PLEASE

[lean heart]

next we gotta know what these do
new row in hero talents

[cobalt relic]

CANCER

CANCER!!!!

[chilly sapphire]

there's a lot of bleed for both arms and fury..

[south kayak]

I hope Apex talents buff Rampage somehow

[wild mural]

dot spec btw

[restive peak]

Ye that was when it was cool but now doesn't matter

[sullen tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/mental-diseases-gif-15734914466993843010

[south kayak]

I don't understand this choice node? Both of them aoe apply rend lmao

[mossy pelican]

Give leap 2 charges imo

[balmy shore]

tru i see u

[mossy pelican]

And bring back pre 11.1 leap

[rigid stirrup]

imagine if apex talent is lust lmao

[lean heart]

maybe a mistake

[narrow onyx]

Mostly a playstyle button I think?

[wild mural]

Im an SMF enjoyer

[static shuttle]

rend less dmg but 8 yards so no target cap

[narrow onyx]

Rend as a filler vs Rend as a passive

[balmy shore]

make leap shake the earth and ur whole screen when u land

[mossy pelican]

also make it so u can leap anywhere in the world

Opposite summoning stone

[balmy shore]

yes i want to squish people from my pure power of leap

[narrow onyx]

I'm also seeing a LOT of the buttons not have costs or cooldowns, so it could be rend has a longer cooldown than Thunderclap?

[lean heart]

i dont personally like the bleed stuff for fury but we'll see

[south kayak]

you're still using rend or TC though

they're one button

nothing passive about that

[edgy widget]

they're NYI

[mossy pelican]

Tbh i been saying give warrior a summoning stone but make it a helicopter

[narrow onyx]

It's Rend AND TC versus just TC

[hardy cargo]

also make it so that if you are on a platform thats floating like nexus king the whole platform falls

[south kayak]

Did you see the Rend/TC thing? I'm confused about that

[hard widget]

Ofcourse you can broski

[edgy widget]

buddy I'm the one who announced it all to you

[balmy shore]

LMAO

[south kayak]

Of course

[edgy widget]

"did I see it" smh

[lean heart]

[balmy shore]

ty archimtiros

[mossy pelican]

“Do you know who i am” moment

[limber oar]

Whats NYI

[south kayak]

Both of them are apply Rend through AoE, so idk what's the point of one over the other

[south kayak]

Not Yet Implemented

[balmy shore]

not yet implemented

[restive peak]

There's a joke here

[limber oar]

Oh ok

[static shuttle]

one is capped one not dude

[balmy shore]

🦶

[south kayak]

Why would you not choose the uncapped one

[restive peak]

Bro in b4 unhinged is our apex lmao

[south kayak]

what's the point of the capped one

[cobalt relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466857693617979402/1422577808965767289/wow-world-of-warcraft.gif

[tidal yew]

Transmogging 1 handers goes kinda hard

[balmy shore]

tmog 2h or ur a coward

[static shuttle]

probalby if u play tc u use this skill anyway, the other is u need to press it extra

[edgy widget]

yes, I've seen it, yeah it's stupid

• Thane can benefit from Rend because TClap becomes a frequently used generator, though Blood & Thunder does become another talent point tax in the class tree (not that there's a whole lot of desirable stuff left to take there anyway)
• Slayer isn't going to spend rage on Thunder Clap, and although Rend is free, it's also a GCD that doesn't generate rage. With the slowed-down rage economy in Midnight, spending GCDs on an empty filler stalls out Enrage uptime, so I'm not convinced it'll actually be played regardless
  Fury really doesn't need Rend, full stop. If they want more bleed focus, just make CSHB not absolute dogwater

[deep sapphire]

Mountain Thane also rotates TC the whole time so while you’re tending less targets at once you’re still getting it done.

[mossy pelican]

is this meme about socket angle

[south kayak]

TC might jsut be doing a lot more aoe

Thane*

[molten wing]

plenty of time for them to fix/change stuff , so thanks in advance for providing the needed feedback/questions to the devs on what doesn't make sense

[edgy widget]

there is, if yall saw how bad the initial alpha trees in DF/TWW were... yeah there's a lot of time for iteration still

[polar narwhal]

Frenzy not being target specific is nice?

[flat river]

they removing it?

[mossy pelican]

I just wanna know if they’re buffing wow lore this expansion because that has been a mega dead talent since T10

[coarse nest]

@edgy widget hey did you see the post about the alpha changes and wowhead talent tree that you made!?

[molten wing]

yeah exactly , also they are a lot more prone to feedback and making changes these days based on feedback

[coarse nest]

[polar narwhal]

Hidden Artifact ability pog

[olive wraith]

Arcantina

[static mountain]

looks like overwhelemd went from 10% to 5%?

[edgy widget]

it's exciting but also useless, you're never going to spend a talent point on that outside of PvP

[earnest shuttle]

reminds me of Sion from league

[south kayak]

I dislike the fact that they nerfed BS and they made it a choice node with OF, doesn't really make sense and there still seems to be the problem of damage priority being all fucked (BT still not being pressed much)

[hardy cargo]

yeah only 5 stacks on overwhelmed now

[edgy widget]

yeah, reduced the max # of stacks, just simplification

[south kayak]

Yo Archi

[flat river]

but it's cool

[south kayak]

is RB still insane on the alpha

compared to BT

[edgy widget]

it's extremely shit

[polar narwhal]

I mean it might be useful for Prey, since that is solo content on highest diff, from what they just said on stream.

[edgy widget]

there are a ton of RB and BT focused changes

[edgy widget]

I mean, maybe, but that's also just a general gear check

[flat river]

how is the average rotation

[hardy cargo]

PE changed from dam amp and extra time to mastery/leech that kinda fucks the talent right

[south kayak]

I saw, but I don't know if that's enough, removing Slaughtering Strikes might have been enough so idk

[edgy widget]

Prey is one of those things that might be hard at the start of the season, but will be jokes by the end of the season just due to general ilvl inflation - not justification for an otherwise useless T3 talent

[south kayak]

What's the damage breakdown like?

from your testing

[polar narwhal]

Definitely looks like PvP path, which is fine?

[static shuttle]

u gona stream alpha?

[polar narwhal]

I wonder if Ragedrinker means 40% health restore on BT crit during ER

[south kayak]

With Enraged Regen? prob

[edgy widget]

na, likely not
there's not actually that much to play, and if I wanna sit around all day answering the same question over and over again I can do that right here on discord

[hardy cargo]

reinforced plates getting a buff but armored to the teeth getting owned

[restive peak]

We don't have alpha max level to even know the damage yet

[flat river]

how good is the rampage frontal thing?

[abstract grail]

so super niche case for Kill or Be Killed: adds that explode and need to be soaked or something like that, where they will die on their own...not that I can think of any examples like that recently. but it definitely feels like a talent that is a clunker until it becomes OP in one case

[main halo]

one quick question, are we using execute whenever it procs, or we just use it when the conditions are there, as slayer fury??

[edgy widget]

its extremely terrible, like hella bad

[coarse nest]

Great now I gotta rally for two reasons

[flat river]

damagewise or

[edgy widget]

what the talent doesn't tell you outright is that it's not additional rampage damage, it replaces Rampage's normal damage with this frontal

[restive peak]

Go play DR BM in M+ to practice aiming xD

[young swan]

💀

[hardy cargo]

LMFAO

[flat river]

[maiden hearth]

Wtf

[deep sapphire]

But why.

[maiden hearth]

What is this class

[restive peak]

That's so fuckin cooked lmao, better be a bug

[south kayak]

what the fuck

[edgy widget]

so instead of doing ~2,500 damage * 0.65 * 4, it deals 1.1k damage to X targets

[coarse nest]

Ain’t no way

[polar narwhal]

Double Time is in such a weird spot

[south kayak]

There's no way that's intended

[edgy widget]

na it's intended

[balmy shore]

do you need a target in order to use the cone rampage?

[edgy widget]

just a shitty tooltip

[hardy cargo]

[edgy widget]

yes

[balmy shore]

interesting ok

[flat river]

thats like

[rigid stirrup]

[mossy pelican]

rip

[south kayak]

Why would you even pick that talent then lmfao

[maiden hearth]

Poo class strikes again

[mossy pelican]

Dead class

Panik

[flat river]

"you want uncapped? here's shit uncapped, you're welcome."

[stuck bison]

roar is gone wtf . i hate spear

[queen onyx]

why does blizz loves Spear so much?

[deep sapphire]

How many targets would you need to be hitting with that rampage to be useful?

[south kayak]

Why would you pick something that delibaretly makes your rampage damage worse

[restive peak]

I mean it's a weird thing because the generally cleaved ramp in anything below 8T does more damage anyway? And If we lose ALL prio we just suck sooo

[dusky charm]

when are you guys using Stone Idol in AOE situations in your rotation? Feels like no good spot because of the GCD

[edgy widget]

numbers wise, that means it takes 9 targets to deal the same amount of damage that a normally cleaved Rampage deals to 5

That can obviously be tuned, however because it overrides the normal damage, it also means that if you only have 1-2 targets, you're still going to deal less damage with Rampage than you would normally

[restive peak]

Kinda a dead talent

[edgy widget]

it's a very bait talent unless you're literally constantly hitting a very high number of targets, which never happens on a practical level

[south kayak]

If they just make it work like how we expected it to

it'd be fine

[edgy widget]

if it were just extra damage, sure

[balmy shore]

i am blind, where is that rampage talent in the tree?

[silent aurora]

rampage don't enrage anymore ?

[south kayak]

I don't see a good reason why they wouldn't just do that instead of whatever this is lol

[hardy cargo]

directly downward from ww ones

[deep sapphire]

What genius thought having it replace rampage damage was smart.

[south kayak]

Warrior devs

classic

[hardy cargo]

looks like OS

[polar narwhal]

No more Slam

[balmy shore]

ooo ty

[maiden hearth]

Does rampage also not enrage anymore?

[south kayak]

from the video I saw, it should

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/arriba-gif-12324188786972117417

[polar narwhal]

Most of the tooltips are still incomplete.

[deep sapphire]

I’m just ready to see my enemies have 500 of my bleeds on them.

[maiden hearth]

I assumed so

[flat river]

ngl from what archi told us, i feel like this iteration of fury is better

hopefully they fix

[maiden hearth]

Was gonna doompost if it didnt

[balmy shore]

🪓 🪓

🦶

[polar narwhal]

Also SMF now baseline I guess

[eternal sundial]

Canhaswar

[deep sapphire]

I’m going to like the idea of transmogging one weapon as a Twohander and the other as a one hander.

[oak crest]

I have a random question, I’ve seen some of the top fury warrior keys done the warrior already has his slayer bladestorm stacks at 3 as they start the key. Are they using a training dummy to build those stacks before hand or are they fighting in the dungeon before they put the key in

[pale lava]

yes training dummy

[slim coral]

Why is this a capstone tho

I know its a mock up

[oak crest]

Thank you

[edgy widget]

my summary is in #updates-midnight, but the short version is that

• individually, there are a lot of cool concepts. e.g. I like the BT crit empowerments, and execute buffs
• the layouts are terrible, so its really hard to make effective builds, much less diverse builds (right now, Thane/Slayer/Colossus will all be back to playing p much the same talents/rotations again, which is boring)

There's a good framework, but it needs some iteration

[slim coral]

but UF is not capstone worthy

[south kayak]

What's the damage breakdown like, Archi? like is Rampage doing the most or what?

[edgy widget]

have you SEEN the shit talents that are in the T3? That's one of the better ones now

[edgy widget]

doesn't really matter, they haven't tuned things yet

[warped fiber]

so meat cleaver changed as well..

[slim coral]

yeah I mean having a cheat death is cool but def not worth being a capstone

[rose bay]

Warrior and bad final point talents, tsk tsk

[slim coral]

I feel like one issue with this is that fury has no major cds for ST

[maiden hearth]

warrior capstones xd

[south kayak]

We did go through a lot of changes throughout the alpha/beta phase for both TWW and DF so I'm not really worried lmao

[south kayak]

Yeah, that's just insane lmao

a capstone in a spec tree?

come on

[slim coral]

lots of good changes for sure but these capstones need god

[maiden hearth]

well tank cheats are capstones yeah?

maybe fury is second warrior tank xd

[flat river]

ngl shout be a pvp talent

it's useless in PvE except in very NIECHE scenarios

[south kayak]

If it's an actual cheat death

then MAYBE i can see it being a capstone

but not this shit

[slim coral]

are the warrior apex talents on alpha?

[olive wraith]

Gladiator coming back confirmed

[polar narwhal]

Only if you kill the would be killer

[deep sapphire]

Maybe they could make it where you either need to get healed past a certain point or kill the thing?

[south kayak]

No

[uneven pilot]

@winter shoal 🫡

[flat river]

it's basically "stay alive after dying for 8 seconds and get a BR only if you kill the person who killed u"

[south kayak]

lmao

yeah

[winter shoal]

You get alpha access big dog?

[uneven pilot]

Not yet

But 99.99999999% dead

probably wont even log into it lol

[flat river]

where is my alpha

[balmy shore]

yea but saving a raid boss kill with that talent would be insane

i love love love that class fantasy

give me more beserker vibes

[winter shoal]

Fs in the chat

[flat river]

would be, would prolly be one of the "biggest warrior brain moments" on discord

[hardy cargo]

I just hope we can afford it after all the damage, defensive, and util talents we want now

[regal mountain]

i am currently rejoicing that frenzy is gone

[hardy cargo]

not gone just reworked to not punish target swapping which is wonderful

[undone flower]

Slayer is still punished by target swapping

[regal mountain]

yea yea lol i know i meant the current version of frenzy haha

[undone flower]

Since it is still slayer

[winter shoal]

Blizzard: We want you to be able to make your game look and feel the way you want
Me: I want my game to have the look and feel of glow conditions in response to combat state
Blizzard: best I can offer is walmart brand plater

[hardy cargo]

overwhelmed stacks down from 10 -> 5 tho so still less punishing than now

[undone flower]

Yeah it’s good thing

[coarse nest]

Would be sick if they’d make us not suffer when target swapping

[desert zodiac]

i hope they change the Avatar or Reckless abandon talent

[deep sapphire]

The question is, is Fury Slayer going to suffer a bit from rampage no longer reducing BS cd?

[desert zodiac]

you couldnt pay me to use reckless abandon after they changed it

[polar narwhal]

Execute will do it

[chilly plume]

oh hey nama :D

[deep sapphire]

I know that, but it’s still losing significant cd reduction now.

[maiden hearth]

🙂

[polar narwhal]

That is if this is correct data.

I'd wait a bit

[coarse nest]

If am doesn’t reduce BS are we going to end up playing that new horrendous RA variant

[undone flower]

Fully depends on : bladestorm damage/fury tuning when it comes live in 6 months

[hardy cargo]

we play both now since am in class tree

[coarse nest]

Oh word

[snow flower]

Delayed yes, was said in the Q&A

[fast mural]

mastery = vers

[polar narwhal]

I just wonder how much Recklessness nerf will affect us

[undone flower]

I think Berserker gone makes us go RA, unless bs stonks by itself

[polar narwhal]

Shorter duration and only 50%

[young swan]

i mean it was already a shit cd

#1423009037808570418 is a channel now so move there if you wanna keep discussing the changes!

[celest sierra]

They finally removed smf I can’t belive it

Lmao

[balmy shore]

thanks xantaga slam apex talent

[tardy cipher]

Ahh, man, whirlwind spam still there, lame

And we will have bleed MT now?

[tepid cedar]

and warriords seem to be compelte ass again

hahahahahahahaha

lets goo

[young swan]

#1423009037808570418

[compact knot]

should be 20% again

was fun when it was 20%

[modest condor]

especially now that reck got killed they can just make it 20% again

[compact knot]

yeah reck is pretty shit now isnt it

[modest condor]

also since this is midnight talk we should take it to #1423009037808570418

[solemn heart]

Hi antenna is bad ? Bcs i got it from vault and i have lower dps than with 1st boss trinket

[indigo arch]

Holy shit, rallying cry is finally going to do something?

What a concept.

[edgy widget]

I mean... barely

and only if you spend a lot of extra points on some really weak talents

the entire T3 of the class tree is scuffed af

[hollow juniper]

Have u guys seen class tuning? Tf dark ranger bm was already topping meters

[edgy widget]

also please direct midnight conversation to #1423009037808570418, just to keep things cleaner

[warm wharf]

Should I craft a second 2h if i'm still using a hero wep in offhand or do i remain praying for vault and spend all my gilded on myth item upgrades instead? I have 2 sparks

[tame gorge]

“Warriors need more group utility”

Me: I can haz bloodlust?

Blizz: best I can do is stampeding roar and blessing of sacrifice

[modest condor]

i MUCH prefer an aoe sac over lust

a bunch of other classes can bring lust

[warm wharf]

i'm deadass getting skipped in keys because they need a bloodlust class tho

[stark garden]

Drums

[vale dove]

no combat addons... i dont get nervous but im starting to get a little bit shaky

[abstract grail]

suck

when a group wants lust, they want lust, not kirkland brand lust

[stark garden]

Lmao

[abstract grail]

unless they're going to reverse their decision and make drums like 25% haste or something so it's not as noticeably worse

[earnest canyon]

"I don't get nervous but changes in a computer game are making me shake" 😂

[vale dove]

💯

[humble lily]

Warriors looked cooked next expanion

[modern ingot]

And so the warrior dooming begins...

[young swan]

#1423009037808570418

the channel exists, please use it

[fair tundra]

is wielding 2 2h crafted weaps 720 an option?

[clever belfry]

use deez

gottem

[sour frigate]

Yes why not

[buoyant bridge]

More effective use of sparks rather than a hero 6/6 wep and 2 720's in other slots?

[merry night]

Are we cooked in the alpha notes chat

[buoyant bridge]

I'm at the same spot tho either gonna do a neck and head 720 and a hero wep or a 720 wep

[sour frigate]

Who the fuck cares about alpha

[earnest canyon]

u look really like elon musk

[buoyant bridge]

Thanks

You look like Brad Pitt

[earnest canyon]

Ty! my pfp is me irl

[plain edge]

Well well well, a month ago I brought up the topic of why does fury still have single minded fury as a talent choice when it's completely useless and only serves as a 1 hander yoinker for loot drops. They finally removed it 🙂

[earnest canyon]

Yes, none of us have ever commented on SMF before. So thanks for getting them to do that

[plain edge]

Yep, go roll prot if you want them 1 handers 😂

[modest condor]

i just checked and smf is still there for me

[plain edge]

It's the changes for midnight

[modest condor]

oh that goes to #1423009037808570418

[plain edge]

Apparently it takes them this long to realize it

[signal steeple]

Because we have better crit trinkets now and I think the value of an uncapped AoE is overrated

[iron portal]

2 min trinket 🤢

[kind bolt]

Intimidating Shout now causes all in range to cower in fear. Menace causes all enemies other than your target to flee. Target cap removed from all versions.

if thats the case whats the point of taking the talent now? flee sounds bad

[warm crag]

there's dedicated midnight channels for talent change discussions

[kind bolt]

ah ty

[rotund ginkgo]

LADS

LADS

LADS

LADS

8 TARGET SOFTCAP RAMPAGE CLEAVE

NO MORE WHIRLWINDS

[sullen dove]

It’s bad

also other channel

[opal spoke]

Got a vault issue, I have mythic antenna, but it sims are showing a 15k dps gain if I pick sacbrood from vault instead. Any advice, what would you guys pick: Sacbrood or get gem slot for head piece?

[spare steppe]

Does anyone take Piercing Howl for the mythic Forgemaster fight? Starting prog on it tonight

[restive peak]

No

Also at this gear point the adds fuckin explode

So even if we had on early prog, you wouldn't bother now I don't think

[junior birch]

that's really bad especially in aoe right?

[hardy cargo]

think these are midnight changes #1423009037808570418

[hallow sleet]

i can wear double crafted weapons, but only one of them needs the embelishment right? 🙂

[humble plover]

Yea

[buoyant bridge]

Yeah you can only have embellishments do the weap one and the one that doubles nerubian embellishments. Then 2nd wep has no embellishments if that's what you're going. For

[hazy cedar]

its crazy to think we had only 2 charges of whirlwind

[fallen sedge]

people are being real doomer about rotations becoming very simple in midnight, but the best part is that the fury rotation is already 1 button, so they can't prune it more!

[young swan]

#1423009037808570418

[violet condor]

anyone else hope they make it so you survive the cheat death if healed to full or 90%

think thatd be a nice change

[modest condor]

read the previous message

[inner zinc]

man im looking forward to midnight. Warriors finally having decent utility will be new

[rotund ginkgo]

this has to be a meme

im benched for 5 weeks of dimmy prog

they kill

"guys we're taking a 2 week break if u wanna leave the guild or quit now is the time to tell me! much love"

[modest condor]

rip

[median kestrel]

guys be honest, midnight is looking like an arms season

is it time to switch

if i dont have bladestorm whats the point

[dense elbow]

What guild/raidteam doesnt reclear to make sure the whole team gets the kill?

Guess the guild is dying or something

[warm crag]

get cooked buddy

[dense elbow]

I wish! There is no release from Fury Warrior for me... yet

[lilac kite]

Im happy with current changes. Especially to class tree.

[young swan]

theres a full channel where u can air out your grievances #1423009037808570418

[median kestrel]

yes sir

[cobalt relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1275579885318045778/1423046903607853066/image.png?ex=68dee334&is=68dd91b4&hm=b371ffbbcc9f37b40ac4b048cdfacbf11de676e8a4562d1ed8cc568faa113cff&

fuarkkkkkkkkkkkk

SALADBAR

U MF

[iron portal]

Strange language

[marble swift]

Why do patch notes say they know warrior lacks utility and the only utility change is my battle shout is now 20% longer

Did someone really write this

[smoky vale]

me when there is a channel to discuss midnight changes

and they did give warrior some stuff

too bad reading hard

[fallen solstice]

Bad question, I know, but what are people typically using as an antenna miss % for simming

[marble swift]

Nice passive aggressive reply

[smoky vale]

i think 20/30

i mean if you scrolled up slightly the same was said

[iron portal]

You would love my guild then

[young swan]

ur reading comprehension needs work

also #1423009037808570418

[rocky locust]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#rotation-single-target

Do you cast exactly 2 Raging Blows after Bladestorm on the opener? Or is that just shorthand for "as many Raging Blows as you can to build up Slaughtering Strikes during Brutal Finish"?

[young swan]

the latter

[rocky locust]

That might be worth mentioning in the bullet points under the opener. @edgy widget

[iron portal]

You have list of priority that mentions it

This is just general opener

[heavy dock]

AYO am i seeing this right, we get odyns champion secret effect from legion as a talent?? ;O

[edgy widget]

yeah a talent you will never actually use, ggs

[slate sun]

how does it make any sense?

how can u get 2 stacks of it?

[edgy widget]

be Arms

[slate sun]

true

making changes for bad players

xd

[brittle crow]

BLIZZARD! LET ME TRANSMOG 2H TO 1H AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

[edgy widget]

not necessarily bad, there are times where you will use multiple spenders in a row

[fiery tide]

the dual wielding thunderfury is almost here

[languid willow]

Guys, rampage with an 8 target cone, maybe there is hope

[floral belfry]

Can you spell refelct the fracture frailties on Soul Hunters?

[dense elbow]

Will increase my fight uptime from 1% to 3%, that is huuuuuuuge value!

[clever abyss]

Quick question. Dont have s3 tier atm. For the fury slayer m+ build, it says without new tier, i dont even use raging blow on multi target (aside from the repeat casts post bladestorm). Is that correct? Says just ww filler. No raging blow mention.

Might be reading it wrong just want clarification - thx!

[feral ivy]

whats combat addons

[orchid brook]

is double crafted rings fried or no

sim would suggest no but I just need a sanity check

[fast mural]

anything that requires some information from the boss apl i would assume
since they are gonna do their own bigwigs stuff

[pastel spoke]

Is SMF gone forever :/

[young swan]

hopefully

#1423009037808570418

[winter shoal]

Not just bosses, seems like combat log API in general

Which is like

A lot of shit

[queen panther]

So no more odyns fury slayer runs?

Sad

[olive wraith]

Maybe

They could make slayer talents work with of

[sullen tendon]

I love what the yahve done with the fury and warrior tree but these two talents are going to overlap and invalidate eachother a lot of the time.

kinda just a dead talent situation

except for niche stuff

why would I take last stand if i could get battle field commander instead

and still have a cheat death

[woven heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1423009037808570418/1423073513622732900/image.png?ex=68defbfd&is=68ddaa7d&hm=d84d76a00f49f9546e1c80e74e5d8c4685997b953e89d1f317a480b5634adc12&

[woven heath]

The cheat death won't have a place in PvE. PvP it will be game changing I'm sure.

[sullen tendon]

Yea its def a great talent in pvp. Pve tho it could be really useful in dungeons. Like if the pack is about to die but also healer is out of mana and youre about to get smacked by a giant fireball

[flat river]

all i see is just slayer nerfs

[sullen tendon]

Either way one of them is a dead talent

If you take last stand you dont take kill or be killed

if you take kill or be kiulled you dont take last stand

[modest condor]

#1423009037808570418

[raw magnet]

Get ready for the omega-burst death wish smash

Who needs versatility, full mastery/haste

[rotund ginkgo]

SHUT UP SPONGIEWARR OF MENTAL APOCALYPSE

[astral condor]

should i use rampage at 5 slaughtering strikes always or ?

[modest condor]

no

[warm crag]

didnt have to dox me wtf

[raw magnet]

Rest in piece slaughtering strikes, you will be missed

[rotund ginkgo]

my friend is in the guild

lol

chad harrisn

and sammydoo

[somber smelt]

is that real?

[rotund ginkgo]

for one they dont share cds, and two, one is a below 20% and the other is a fatal hit. there are many instances where you survive below 20% even right now both in keys and in raid. so i disagree.

on another note, kill or be killed wont be played in raid. but probably somewhat valuable in keys, esp if for example u might die at the end of a boss or pull - it's still 8s extra where u pump regardless of whether or not u survive afterwards.

[sullen tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/quotation-marks-chris-farley-air-gif-24463963

shut up

[rotund ginkgo]

it isnt a technically

[sullen tendon]

it is

if you are going to get to 20% health you are about to die

[rotund ginkgo]

theres literally infinite situations where you're hit below 20% by rot damage

no

very incorrect

[woven heath]

Was posted in the Fury-Midnight chat. Pretty sure either Arch or WoWhead mentioned it as well.

[rotund ginkgo]

i can check AT LEAST once or twice per key where i survive hits below 20% hp

[sullen tendon]

If you get hit with a fireball for 20 million health you are going to die. The talents activate at asame time. You have a 1 minute window 4 minutes later to desync them purposely or by luck or else they will stay synced

[rotund ginkgo]

or when i get below 20% on overlaps/boss mechanics

[somber smelt]

gotcha, seen someone mention it in a reddit comment and was trying to find it, ty

[sullen tendon]

No more techincally

no more achsually

be real

[rotund ginkgo]

if you get hit by a fireball and get dropped to 1.2mil

wym be real

buddy

OBVIOUSLY it doesnt exist in a ONE SHOT

[sullen tendon]

1.2 mil is below 20%

[rotund ginkgo]

YES

SO U GET THE PROC

but u DONT DIE

[modest condor]

ok but did you need the heal in those instances?

[sullen tendon]

you proc both

[rotund ginkgo]

so the other one doesnt proc

@modest condor yes

[sullen tendon]

you waste one

[rotund ginkgo]

miniboss before dawnbreaker last boss

[modest condor]

also like i said before

#1423009037808570418

[sullen tendon]

the other does proc

if you go below 20% health in one hit the yboth proc

[rotund ginkgo]

when you would sustain fatal damage

means when you die

unless im misreading this

[sullen tendon]

youre going to die

if you get hit by a fireball

that does 2343324 damage

[rotund ginkgo]

?

[sullen tendon]

or 2

you wil lactivate both

[rotund ginkgo]

have you never tanked any bolt and survived it sub 20%?

[sullen tendon]

priory fireballs

2 kill u

[rotund ginkgo]

yes, but one doesnt

[sullen tendon]

100 to 0

you proc both

talent wasted

[rotund ginkgo]

so you've NEVER

been in ANY situation

where you dropped from 100 to sub 20

and needed a heal?

[woven heath]

Y'all are arguing for something we don't know yet.

[rotund ginkgo]

javelins eda

dawnbreaker miniboss/minibosses

[woven heath]

In the wrong channel

[sullen tendon]

you are not going to take one if you take the other

[rotund ginkgo]

dawnbreaker overlap on 2nd boss

[sullen tendon]

kobk is not worht taking in most content anyways

[rotund ginkgo]

i never said it is

[sullen tendon]

one talent will always be dead

[rotund ginkgo]

i said it could be valuable

me when i get angry and just lash out

[sullen tendon]

if you take both you are compromising yourself by losing a talent point on the potential of using one

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-smol-small-ragey-gif-26398063

its ok bobby keep reading between the lines (if there was anything between the lines it'd be a line btw)

be angry at my opinion

[sullen tendon]

im not saying there is 0 chance they dont overlap

but most of the time they will

[rotund ginkgo]

some, sure

[sullen tendon]

and in those instances you have a dead talent

[rotund ginkgo]

most? i disagree

i still never said "take both" btw

:3

[sullen tendon]

if youre in a 18 key and pulse aoe is going out that does 25% of your health per tick and healer is out of mana you are going from 25% to 0% not 25% to 10%

[rotund ginkgo]

i said they dont share cds and that they dont act exactly the same, and that kobk wont be played in raid and MIGHT be somewhat valuable because of the 8s extra dps

[sullen tendon]

Im sure it will be useful in world quests

[rotund ginkgo]

what if you're at 26% because you leeched

since u have leech

and now ur at 1%

and now ur topped

and u can survive another tick

and the aoe ended

[sullen tendon]

then I die to the dot tahts on me

or the extra 2 ticsk of pulse aoe

[rotund ginkgo]

but what if its the last tick

idk man u give me a giga hypothetical ill shoot one back lol

what if its the last tick

and the pack is just dying

[sullen tendon]

this is waht happens

in dungeons and raid

you get fucked

[rotund ginkgo]

ah

[sullen tendon]

and if healers lack you die

[rotund ginkgo]

so ur attributing unluckyness to the statistic norm

i see this is a battle of wits i fear i cant win

alas, you defeated me bobby.

[sullen tendon]

the talents conflict with eachother

[rotund ginkgo]

hats off sir

astute observation

[sullen tendon]

they do the same general thing

[rotund ginkgo]

agreed

they still dont perform identically

[sullen tendon]

So you wont take them over something that would increase your damage

[rotund ginkgo]

i never said you will

[sullen tendon]

so what dont you understand

[rotund ginkgo]

i understand both perfectly

i think you seem to misremember what i even wrote and how u replied to it

[sullen tendon]

i dont care

[rotund ginkgo]

u made up an argument that didnt exist

[sullen tendon]

they are one of hte other dead talents

[rotund ginkgo]

what a chad

[sullen tendon]

taking up a spot on my talent tree

[rotund ginkgo]

a mastermind

[sullen tendon]

this is storm of steel all over again

[rotund ginkgo]

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA EARLY ALPHA TALENTS!!!!!!!!

[sullen tendon]

Yea

so we complain about it now

so they change it

[rotund ginkgo]

good

https://tenor.com/view/team-america-team-america-world-police-team-america-movie-team-america-world-police-movie-teamamerica-gif-13910560760617715075

[vale dove]

We hear your feedback and choose to ignore as it doesn't meet our new class design philosophy 🫡

[tepid cedar]

@restive peak about toi run a 19 streets with yoda

hges on a BM lol

[brittle crow]

please

[bleak olive]

Ignore pain, it’s thematic

[lime perch]

Fellas, I know you know what I’m about to say but

I just hope they make warrior

[restive peak]

He cranks man lol

[tepid cedar]

we gona do it later. wwaiting for the tank to get on

u ready to do that 18 again

[languid willow]

I got banned for gambling in goldshire because the dice rollers we’re using rmt gold apparently, 2 appeals in and they won’t let me appeal anymore. Looks like no resil 17 for me this week rip.

[dark wraith]

removing both ravager and thunderous roar in midnight is a huge L

[cursive flower]

removing auras entirely is a huge L

rip that aura that shouted you when to execute 😢

[tepid cedar]

horrible change

not being abel to track interrupts

and shit like that

all this targetted at literally 2 or 3 guilds in the game lolol

[tepid cedar]

wake uppp

[raw magnet]

If fury cheat death is treated like an enrage then in pvp it is dead

will just be hard countered

[silk wharf]

Just make it undispellable.

[raw magnet]

hopefully they do

[silk wharf]

It will still be hard countered with roots, but that is just warrior counter really.

[raw magnet]

Warrior has options for roots in pvp

[silk wharf]

True

[raw magnet]

Multiple

[vale dove]

I wouldnt read in to anything yet

[raw magnet]

We can save bladestorm, save avatar, can rally(1 min pvp talent usable often)

[vale dove]

who know what they are going to remove

[raw magnet]

Technically trinket which we would def use if in cheat death window

can have healer dispel us

technically can spell reflect some though thats very unlikely to be effective

[warm crag]

i assume its the same as it was in legion

dunno how it worked in pvp

also #pvp #1423009037808570418

[raw magnet]

🙁

[unborn delta]

odyn fury new meta next seaso

[restive peak]

Oh fuck yoy wanted me to log in! Sorry bruh! I’m on in 25ish 😩

[tepid cedar]

lolol

[oak crest]

Sorry to ask again, so in higher keys warriors are using training dummies outside, getting the bladestorm buff, entering the dungeon then starting the key?

[modest condor]

you dont have to do it outside

[oak crest]

which dummy can i use inside?

[modest condor]

none of the dungeon starts are inside a building

so all of them?

[oak crest]

OH some of the dummies dont work and some do, ancient construct for example isnt working for me but black dragon dummy is

[white rover]

🤔

[sullen dove]

turnip punching bag i think is fine usually

[stray ledge]

does any 1 know caps to shoot for in fury?

[fresh jolt]

any have stat weights i should shoot for?

[cunning condor]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-dancing-fun-funny-dance-dance-moves-gif-10051361099218732674

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-rap-gif-12120359992588649980

[brittle crow]

ravager is a mid ability

[thick fossil]

Question on NK bullshit.
Is it a baiting problem when you have 3-4 fucking beams coming through the soak point?

[olive wraith]

They don’t exist @fresh jolt

[fresh jolt]

wdym

[olive wraith]

We don’t use stat weights

Just sim yourself

[compact knot]

which healer does the most damage and sacrifices the least healing

is it MW monk

[olive wraith]

I believe so

[compact knot]

ok i boost that

[olive wraith]

I’ve heard hpal is pretty good dps too

But I’d verify

[fresh jolt]

what socket for cloak then? vers? haste? @olive wraith

[cobalt kernel]

yes

[thick fossil]

https://imgur.com/a/7KsyCKl

[olive wraith]

What did I just say lmao

[thick fossil]

@south see above

[feral ivy]

why is there a face in those circles Mythic NK

[thick fossil]

Cause that's the face you wanna make while progging that POS

[compact knot]

this spec has ALOT of buttons

oh man

i dont even have my healing spells bound and im out of space

xdd

[olive wraith]

Use mouseovers

[compact knot]

although i dont think this build really pushes the healing spells a lot

[olive wraith]

I feel like healers in general have a lot of buttons

Cause you got like 3-5 dps buttons

On top of your heals

[compact knot]

this guy pushed vivify 1 time in a 6 min fight

0 renewing mists

[olive wraith]

But ya on my rsham I’ll have lightning bolt and riptide same keybind

[compact knot]

oh that makes sense

[stoic star]

Hi! wondering if I can get some advice on whether to take Myth Pants w/ Tertiary or Myth Arcanocore. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kJQkf26joTVkhry9uztHoY ( AoE 5 Tar Patchwerk ) or https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wNmRNW2WA1qy5VrpHfaAqE ( Single Target )

[olive wraith]

Are you prioritizing raid or keys

[stoic star]

Id say both have my attention thats where i feel kinda stuck

[olive wraith]

But you don’t favor one or the other?

[feral ivy]

u can always farm trink u can barely farm tertiary imo

[stoic star]

Probably favor Raid

Alright ill take the pants

Worst case scenario i can buy trinket late october

[feral ivy]

only 2 more weeks till u can

or 3 idk

[olive wraith]

Ye

That’s a fair call

[lofty apex]

is the fractilus northern sky wa bugged?

[tepid cedar]

damnnn

[feral ivy]

i see u know how to use photo shop

but holy fuck that would make me annoyed lol

[tepid cedar]

yea

yoda got 1 shot somehow

we tried to save it

[earnest canyon]

did you report him for griefing

[jolly quail]

Vault question, if we killed frac but not soul hunters, can soul hunter loot show up in vault since its prior in the adventure guide?

[tired dragon]

yes

[olive wraith]

Yall skipped it?

That’s kinda grief

[restive peak]

Hunter problems

Most guilds went fract 1st that's normal

[jaunty crane]

Is rampage buffed by enrage? Like do I want to rampage before enrage falls or is the dmg always enraged from rampage

[modest condor]

it's buffed

[jaunty crane]

ty

[olive wraith]

Seems like this is a super faq lately

Wonder why

[modest condor]

yeah

[steep vigil]

you can craft 2 of the same weapon and equip?

[olive wraith]

Pretty sure ya

Check if it says unique equipped

[steep vigil]

thought you couldnt cause you cant for rings

[olive wraith]

I’d advise against double wep craft though

[olive wraith]

Rings say unique iirc

[steep vigil]

why?

[olive wraith]

A lot of wasted crests

[modest condor]

if it's your biggest upgrade why not ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steep vigil]

havent looted a 2 hander in 3 seasons, so

ive been playing only arms cause of it

we will all be max ilvl by 2 weeks from now if not already anyways

[vocal igloo]

where could i get some help troubleshooting a new pc locking up and having to hard shut down?

[olive wraith]

Probably a pc discord

[lost vigil]

Pre built or what

[vocal igloo]

no i built it

[lost vigil]

If its prebuilt check the thermal paste on the processor, typically they skimp or leave plastic on so the processor temps get too high. You can run programs to monitor the temps and see if its that

Maybe YOU skimped then. Is the PSU enough for the machine. Did you update drivers. Is the ram in the right slots. Do you have the right sticks.

Lot of things to check.

[vocal igloo]

yea it's not any of the easy answers; it's not my first time making one

but because it's just lockup i'm not sure how to identify the cause

there's no bsod for me to like look up an error or something

also the lockup is like once per 24 hours

[lost vigil]

Could just be a faulty piece. Shit happens sometimes.

[cobalt kernel]

for dim prog do we pot p1 or nawl

[neat jetty]

How important is it to have the Whirlwind buff up before Bladestorming? Do the Bloodthirsts from Unhinged cleave?

[thick fossil]

We finally got to p3 of NK. Oh man, this boss is stupid.

[feral ivy]

first phase is ass

[thick fossil]

Yup

Especially when your ranged are fucking idiots and baiting stupidly.

[cobalt kernel]

do you have people moving with claws?

[feral ivy]

imo i think they need to nerf the beam again slower

so much dmg coming out in p1 its stupid

[thick fossil]

It's the wild west out here

[thick fossil]

if they're baited properly it's not bad.

[cobalt kernel]

gl in the middle honestly

[feral ivy]

what are u SR ? claws only?

WHY CAN MC LUST THE BOSS??

[solar parcel]

Does anyone know if its better to use stone idol trinket b4 hitting reck/col?

Or does other abilities buff the damage from it so we shuld use it after?

[cobalt kernel]

reck charge idol ava

[solar parcel]

so it buffs it?

[cobalt kernel]

dont think so but the idea is to waste as less ava time as possible

[solar parcel]

ah i have reck and ava macro'd together

[lean heart]

nexus king fucking stinks

[hardy cargo]

nexus king owns D:

im having so much fun on him

[signal steeple]

Nexus King is fun why do you hate him?

[restive peak]

You'll be on dimens soon

It's a lot of pulls oiiiii

[hardy cargo]

im excited for dimensius

we are also kinda owning nexus king I think we will kill pretty quick next week we at around 130 pulls seen enrage and last drop a couple times so see p3 a few more times and gg

[flat river]

We reached adds on nexus king yesterday

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[ivory sinew]

Hey guys I've been following the m+ build from wowhead but I couldn't understand why we took the 2 points in crit/execute crit damage over the 2 thunderous roar talents. Wouldn't the TR dot do more than the 2% from the crit talent in m+? Just want to make sure I'm not missing something

[flat river]

Nexus king is the only boss fight other than frac (which is a dummy target boss) that's actually fun to play as melee

Especially fury

Loom u have to swap tethers

Plexus much movement and navigating the circles in phase

[young swan]

i like soulbinder

[lean heart]

no the fight is fine like our job on it im fine with

hit p3 tonight but mannn

[dapper goblet]

@sullen dove miss the streams

[unreal onyx]

Not if you greed

[gilded pawn]

beacuse it doesnt

roar is just not good

[sullen dove]

Me too man… me too…

[sullen dove]

“Have to swap tethers” 🤣

[lean heart]

ive never swapped tethers ever

[flat river]

My GM says so

He checks logs each time and points me out if i try to greed

[uneven furnace]

Same here... And doing more damage on them than some casters...

[sullen dove]

i mean are they like super sketch and close to touching the group or are they dying in 3 seconds

if its like super close then maybe warranted

but like

leaving melee range for em suske

[cobalt kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jordan-michael-jordan-meme-michael-jordan-gif-michael-jordan-tiktok-michael-jordan-tiktok-gif-gif-6954557651636549608

[olive wraith]

a wild fire mage

[minor current]

Imagine playing fire mage

I do it for funsies sometimes to see if the spec still sucks

And I hate myself every single time lol

[flat river]

I heard fire mage's cds got gutted

And they have like 4-5 buttons

And combustion

They gutted a lot of cds

Basically made the game slow paced

Also the fact that they removed storm earth and fire is funny asf

xd

[sour frigate]

Die sef die.

[flat river]

sef?

[sour frigate]

Storm earth and fire = sef

[flat river]

Oh

[iron portal]

Seaf

[flat river]

[fossil solar]

When using raidbots. What is our Preferred Secondary Stats? Any simulations options that have to be manually set?

[iron portal]

No, just let robot do its thing

[hazy cedar]

Robot knows all the secrets

[outer tartan]

What Weakauras do majority fury warriors use it looks like Luxthos, any reason not to pick this?

[olive wraith]

Some people dislike it. But it does fine for me

[outer tartan]

I already need the execute prompt kaching do any of the them show when to use visually?

[iron portal]

Kaching wa also shines when you are to execute

You can tweak it to your liking

[remote bobcat]

All the weakaura packages that exist for multiple classes arent optimized to support gameplay. They just show absolutely everything or not enough. Luxthos shows everything so you need to unload or delete all the auras that clutter your screen

Cause like

You dont need to track frenzy

Or opportunist

[smoky vale]

MEOW

[lean wasp]

WWT we sim dungeon slice for aoe ?

[cobalt relic]

gg

[wise cobalt]

Im so over the delve belt, can I take it off and replace it with a 720 crafted?

[cobalt kernel]

simulate

[wise cobalt]

24k damage increase

But still am scared idk why

[cobalt kernel]

blud is scared of air

[devout totem]

scared of numbers going up

[wise cobalt]

Idk tbh

[hazy cedar]

Scared of more hp and dps

[heavy dock]

fuck delves belt bro

be free of shit

embrace being able to have nitro boost again

[wise cobalt]

Im not eng so I cant have it anyway

[low oak]

I mean we are getting 727 crafts in a couple weeks no?

Id say wait till then 🤷‍♂️

[late dock]

This is a comparison between my most used Abilities in fight with a top Fury's most used abilities in fight

I thought the whole point of the spec was to hit rampage?

Like build rage, to pop rampage everytime, to keep uptime on enrage

What am I missing currently?

[radiant perch]

I mean if you read the guide, its RB over Rampage if you enraged

you use rampage to get back to angry mode and press RB again

[radiant perch]

726 if I can do math properly

[remote bobcat]

In ST you rampage at above 115 rage, in m+ you raging blow over rampage while enraged, especially when you need to hold bladestorm for next pack anyway

Fury is not all about rampage

[low oak]

I wanna agree but i swear i heard a video of someone saying 727 could be wrong its only 1 point regardless probably worth saving gilded crests if a new bigger badder crest is to drop