This goes beyond discord
#fury
dense elbow
restive peak
He's been stalking you for awhile bro, that's why he became a warrior
young swan
this but jon snow at the battle of the bastards
restive peak
YO
tepid cedar
rumor has it, funkys name is what it is cause of his ex girlfriend
restive peak
THATS A COOK?
flat river
send me this tier list i want to make my own
flat river
real
undone flower
send me this tier list i want to make my own
which one
undone flower
undone flower
I will not, you have to suffer not ranking something if you really want to ignore Heroic Strike
radiant plank
IM RIGHT AND THE REST ARE WRONG
dense elbow
You know what, I take that over Happy's list
undone flower
BLOODBATH ???
dense elbow
cause Happy is a traitoreh
radiant plank
BLOODBATH ???
MoP bloodbath
warm crag
ambush s tier
dense elbow
Ya see it as well, eh
radiant plank
ambush s tier
clever belfry
undone flower
i could do a tierlist with every spells fury had, but it would need too much research
flat river
(order in tier is irrelavent)
radiant plank
Blasphemy raging blow in S tier
undone flower
Blasphemy raging blow in S tier
raging blow resets are a big part of the fun of fury, for me, i just realized it sooner than you
dense elbow
holy cook
flat river
raging blow is a banger button though
iron portal
this but jon snow at the battle of the bastards
@restive peak
radiant plank
raging blow resets are a big part of the fun of fury, for me, i just realized it...
See I hate fury
young swan
beauty
radiant plank
Theres no fun in fury
undone flower
Oh yeaaaah
radiant plank
especially current design
young swan
i miss razonko
radiant plank
mop fury on the otherhand
young swan
razones
radiant plank
iron portal
Raz nones
flat river
like i understand the hate behind how everything is based around raging blow but it is a good and enjoyable button to press
wait i will make a few adjustments
iron portal
I am always in your heart
undone flower
See I hate fury
Im not arms guy, but it's close, idk what you think fury is wrong
radiant plank
Im not arms guy, but it's close, idk what you think fury is wrong
as long as fury only has rampage spending loop
its unfun
for me
i dont like the button
dense elbow
Yes. we also need an AoE button! Like Divine Storm! Also, also! We should get a CR! Also also also! We need some offhealing potential!
undone flower
as long as fury only has rampage spending loop
yeah rampage is not a good one, reason i put it in C
radiant plank
Meat cleaver tho is a part I like about fury
flat river
yeah rampage is not a good one, reason i put it in C
for cute button?
young swan
1 minute guys
flat river
ok i tuned it a bit
how is my tuned list
dense elbow
Go play mop, if you want mop
young swan
ONE MINUTE
flat river
xd
dense elbow
It any fun?
radiant plank
Yeah
dense elbow
Been wanting to get to try it
undone flower
for cute button?
for : 99% of the rampage fun being : fast rage depletion/gain loop giving dopamine, but it is not caused by rampage itself
dense elbow
but just havent had time
kindred basin
Why is that in every top 100 fury logs both trinkets (arcano - dimm trink) crits like 50% of the time meanwhile in my logs i don't crit at all, even with the same or more base crit?
Skill issue?
young swan
one minute for a 5min starting soon screen
im pretty sure its prerecorded
dense elbow
The talents coming out, that will buff OF by 300% damage, AND increase Raging Blows damage by 30000%
radiant plank
im pretty sure its prerecorded
Yeah but gotta build up those viewers
young swan
Skill issue?
yeah pretty much
kindred basin
I knew it, fuck me
iron portal
I call it, shift to crit with flask prio to proc skill issue
radiant plank
5min wait screen
young swan
wow thats epic
dense elbow
im pretty sure its prerecorded
I gonna get rolled in soon, ya mind throwing me a tag with timestamp for the warrior shitzle when it shows so I can easily find it? 
restive peak
<@301095302977290241>
Huge
young swan
I gonna get rolled in soon, ya mind throwing me a tag with timestamp for the war...
sure
dense elbow
Hero
young swan
it will prob be posted in an article like insta
undone flower
it will be spammed here if OF is deleted dw
tepid cedar
alpha reveal is today?
dense elbow
ya know it
iron portal
it will prob be posted in an article like insta
What are you refering to
undone flower
yeah, it's roar/spear i can see one of them disappear
young swan
ya know they already got most of it prewritten
i will still link the timestamp if u wanna watch
gleaming siren
@oblique trail How is Fury
thorn fulcrum
Hello, why is icy veins recommending this trinket as BIS ?
young swan
What are you refering to
alpha deep dive
dense elbow
i will still link the timestamp if u wanna watch
❤️
young swan
@tepid cedar
iron portal
alpha deep dive
I see, thanks
undone flower
2min to bust arms rework theories
iron portal
modest condor
slam apex talent reveal in 1 minute guys
undone flower
he wants to be your friend, perhaps
vocal flame
Hello, why is icy veins recommending this trinket as BIS ?
because of the mastery
cobalt relic
all gg
tepid cedar
he wants to be your friend, perhaps
im glad, a 3700+ brew is a good one to have as fury
vocal flame
some of the BIS gear doesn't have mastery so you make it up on that trinket
cobalt relic
ggwp
radiant plank
batchesting so hard rn
tepid cedar
fury gona lose SMF, and apex talents = frenzied enrage and powerful enrage combined into 1
undone flower
meatcleave apex talent
flat river
young swan
slam apex talent
radiant plank
slam apex Talent
restive peak
afiinity sent me a friend request
Hell yeah brotherrrrrrrr, I have him too, we finnagle him xD
cobalt relic
all gg
flat river
balance: berserker's rage no longer dispels incap effects.
apex talent: berserker rage now dispels incap talents.
restive peak
Bro the german subtitles are helping me immensely
flat river
guys i need to go pray real quick if anything warrior related get's mentioned tell me
i will also pray for fury buffs 🙏
radiant plank
Inshallah warrior gets mentioned
young swan
inshallah
cobalt relic
insha'Allah
olive wraith
Gg
olive wraith
I’m struggling to find 16 groups that don’t brick
olive wraith
I think I’m hardstuck. Ggs
flat river
did they buff fury yet
flat river
real
olive wraith
Rpers rejoice. Arcantina
hardy cargo
holy shit theyre moving moonguard rp to its own place instead of goldshire
earnest canyon
holy shit theyre moving moonguard rp to its own place instead of goldshire
to the trashcan?
hardy cargo
the arcantina!!!
earnest canyon
undone flower
Delve spotlights, that's why i'm looking this
young swan
will u guys promise me you will behave when the class stuff gets shown
fast mural
did you see that fury warrior using 1h weapons ?
radiant plank
will u guys promise me you will behave when the class stuff gets shown
no
fast mural
smf gonna be good in midnight
radiant plank
You better put
fast mural
narrow onyx
Hey that fury was was using 1h weapons. Please tell me SMF is dead and you can just mog them now
radiant plank
Fury to 2min slowmode
undone flower
no i bust insta when brown
radiant plank
hardy cargo
will u guys promise me you will behave when the class stuff gets shown
I will not behave I never behave
olive wraith
Hey that fury was was using 1h weapons. Please tell me SMF is dead and you can j...
Was that fury?
fast mural
it used rampage wdym
olive wraith
I didn’t notice the animations
narrow onyx
no
Personally I doubt class stuff is gonna get shown today. Gonna be more about stuff for everybody, and then we'll get our class breakdowns tomorrow when the alpha goes up
radiant plank
pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease
hardy cargo
pwease guys pwease behave :3
sullen dove
will u guys promise me you will behave when the class stuff gets shown
If the word slam is mentioned anywhere then no
even rb for that matter
fast mural
what if slam but anihilator ?
sullen dove
Then it’s good
fast mural
sick scaffold
please behave
what if i dont
sullen dove
zawg think she columbinaaa
narrow onyx
I forget, did they do something like this for TWW or DF?
sullen dove
look at my lawyer dawg I’m goin to jaiil
sullen dove
silly goofy thing
young swan
what if i dont
i will make sure my plane crashes
sick scaffold
i will make sure my plane crashes
cobalt relic
GG
cobalt relic
wtf bis
flat river
void elf DH lets gooo
iron portal
that is all warrior content you will get
oblique trail
<@102464908976730112> How is Fury
dead, go play mage
flat river
that is all warrior content you will get
narrow onyx
that is all warrior content you will get
for real tho, I imagine we're just not gonna get any class content today other than "hey check out this new thing" for Demon Hunter's
olive wraith
Druid moon kin form looks pretty sick
undone flower
when gnome druid....
iron portal
Druid moon kin form looks pretty sick
ManBat
narrow onyx
Just because going in for each class would be a pacing ANHILIATOR for this kind of show. Imagine sitting through 30 minutes of every class just for 2 minutes of Warrior
flat river
the prey mechanic looks really fun actually
olive wraith
He dh spec looks pretty good
narrow onyx
That rogue was using the wrong weapons for their visual effects
so like 1h fury tmog hopium
undone flower
Skyhold Bum House announced
olive wraith
Couldn’t it just be smf lol
wild mural
SMF MENTIONED
narrow onyx
I'm sure it is and I'm just coping
undone flower
@hard widget can i be your neighbor
cobalt relic
@undone flower ggw0
fast mural
we got 5 seconds of apex talents 
last lichen
Maybe the Apex Talent will make Thunderous Roar good 😛
vivid ember
Looking for some insight here, torn between the 2h, antenna and priory ring. I have heroic antenna, mythic sacbrood + arcanocore for ST but no myth track weapon. The weapon sims the highest (1.7 ish %), then antenna (0.7ish %) in multitarget, then ring (like 0.3%). But with dinars I could just buy these, but that is way in the future, and we are extending from now on so no more raid vaults. The low likelyhood of seeing the ring makes me want to take that, is that the wrong choice?
hardy cargo
We don't wanna slowmode here homies but it's about to get wild
no we gotta start misbehaving now!!!
flat river
so much for "deep dive"
radiant plank
rigid stirrup
defensives getting gutted
flat river
LETS GOOO
flat river
ALGATHAR IS BACK
south kayak
defensives getting gutted
Thank God
rigid stirrup
aug now buffs all dps instead of a select few
young swan
pit of saron is a crazy pull
rigid stirrup
we're gonna be bracing in for a brand new era lads
restive peak
Fuck
rigid stirrup
is this the first "classic" era dungeon in M+?
restive peak
PUZZLEBOX IS BACK MAAAAAN
olive wraith
Idr which one pit is
restive peak
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
olive wraith
Is that the damage reflect last boss
rigid stirrup
surely they change how it cast so its not aids
wind token
i hope smf is smited
undone flower
Is that the damage reflect last boss
Channeled trinket
olive wraith
is this the first "classic" era dungeon in M+?
We had cata dungeons if that counts
undone flower
Cata were classic dungeons tho
manic temple
Four myth track slots -> socket angle
olive wraith
Channeled trinket
Ya that doesn’t ring a bell lol
manic temple
Odin tests me
olive wraith
Looking for some insight here, torn between the 2h, antenna and priory ring. I h...
Weapon
rigid stirrup
Looking for some insight here, torn between the 2h, antenna and priory ring. I h...
take the thing you won't be able to dinar
unreal onyx
are the boe rings possible to get heavy mastery or is it always gonna be heavier haste than mastery
rigid stirrup
i'd personally take the ring
unreal onyx
I never saw one
lean heart
allah help us puzzle box is back ts is STINKY
undone flower
are the boe rings possible to get heavy mastery or is it always gonna be heavier...
BOEs can roll every stats this season from what i understood
tranquil nimbus
here ya go chat midnight warrior talents
flat river
Go read my update first, I worked hard on it!
oki :3
undone flower
I KNEW ROAR IS GONE
unreal onyx
BOEs can roll every stats this season from what i understood
yes they can, but I was just unlucky then so far if I haven't seen a mastery heavy one yet
(haste mast)
flat river
AM is really in class tree now?
olive wraith
Oh fury actually has bleeds now
flat river
actually not bad
flat river
CHEAT DEATH
undone flower
@dense elbow I'm sorry
flat river
@dense elbow
flat river
@smoky vale alt account are u seeing this
wind token
FINALLY
olive wraith
Is this class tree?
lean heart
BISMILLAH WERE BACK
olive wraith
Some great utility
olive wraith
BISMILLAH WERE BACK
Holy pog
dire vigil
Holy shit. 8 target
edgy widget
I gotta cover the QA for 30m, but I'll answer any/all questions after that
flat river
BISMILLAH WERE BACK
WE ARE FUCKING BACK
hasty widget
wtf
lean heart
thank u archi
calm swallow
OH MY GLORY
olive wraith
Frenzy fix pog
lean heart
ok so like this was just my idea from actual months ago
gang how do you feel
worldly tendon
Mashallah we have a cheat death
undone flower
DAMN
gilded pawn
ok so like this was just my idea from actual months ago
Do you want ironfur frenzy tho
young swan
gang how do you feel
elated
tranquil nimbus
almost same thing
lime perch
Make warrior !
olive wraith
Not even close to the same lol
tranquil nimbus
not hardcapped anymore*
olive wraith
We aren’t hard capped rn in live
azure cedar
we got uncapped AoE
where can i read that?
young swan
where can i read that?
olive wraith
where can i read that?
Wowhead has the talent trees
tranquil nimbus
Right Side middle height roughly
calm swallow
Single-Minded Fury is gone?
azure cedar
ah ty
paper ocean
Single minded bitch no more
south kayak
is Champion's Spear a utility now
olive wraith
Oh is it
south kayak
I'm confused
young swan
Single-Minded Fury is gone?
yes finally
south kayak
undone flower
OF is gone too
south kayak
is this a utility now
calm swallow
GASP
clever path
😢 These boots are a curse
young swan
smoky vale
wait a minute
olive wraith
Half the rage
olive wraith
Oof
undone flower
oh it's a choice with bs
young swan
dont panic too hard theres an insane amount of extra rage gen in the tree
restive peak
OF is gone too
OF is on the storm node
olive wraith
oh it's a choice with bs
Pog auto enrage
south kayak
dont panic too hard theres an insane amount of extra rage gen in the tree
Is reck stronger now?
olive wraith
No
young swan
Is reck stronger now?
in a sense
young swan
avatar is a choice node with RA
south kayak
it's jsut 20% crit htough
undone flower
Pog auto enrage
for thane
young swan
i assume its a passive effect tied to reck
flat river
WAIT
olive wraith
avatar is a choice node with RA
Huh
hardy cargo
rampaging ruin is such a sick talent
lean heart
REPLACES SLAM OMG
young swan
thats actually pogger for leveing i think
flat river
BLADESTRORM ENRAGES U
BLADESTORM ENRAGE LES GOOOO
young swan
warpaint invig choice node sucks for pvpers
modest hollow
Should i sacrifise haste over versa?
young swan
but fuck em
south kayak
i assume its a passive effect tied to reck
if it is then that means that we get 20% damage buff that gets reduced by AM
young swan
if it is then that means that we get 20% damage buff that gets reduced by AM
correct
flat river
im actually gunna bust, avatar or reckless abandon im so happy 😭
sullen dove
good avatar is shit
hardy cargo
ok how much damage does this actually do and also seems insane in pvp
south kayak
wait, isn't this the Legion passive thing
olive wraith
im actually gunna bust, avatar or reckless abandon im so happy 😭
Plus with having rend and deep wounds we might actually be bleed heavy
south kayak
where a valkyr comes down
wild mural
REPLACES SLAM OMG
where is this pls
olive wraith
where is this pls
Wowhead
wild mural
oh i was looking and coulnt find it cheers
proven hornet
REPLACES SLAM OMG
yeah fuck off slam, shitty ability for arms
spare steppe
TELL ME HOW TO FEEL
tranquil nimbus
the amount of throughput nodes in the class tree look concerning
young swan
oh SHIT
south kayak
ok so like this was just my idea from actual months ago
this was your idea lmao
right?
olive wraith
A lot of good changes
south kayak
Trauma
olive wraith
I like the move speed
young swan
2 stacks baseline?
compact knot
why is sidearm and wrecking/shattering throw in our tier 3
olive wraith
Int shout is actually pog
young swan
thats just the artifact for fury
south kayak
@young swan
young swan
oh huge
compact knot
oh
undone flower
reck is 50% rage generation on this too
young swan
reck is 50% rage generation on this too
yeah massive W
compact knot
they made the deep wounds stack damage
spare steppe
Is s3 4p in the tree?
young swan
honestly the only thing that is weird and cringe is OF/BS choice node 💀
south kayak
sullen dove
honestly the only thing that is weird and cringe is OF/BS choice node 💀
personal attack on funky
compact knot
Is s3 4p in the tree?
i feel like it could be baked into the slayer tree
not sure tho
olive wraith
Holy
warped fiber
wow.. BS and OF on the same node
unreal onyx
how the hell do I sim the ring with specific stat weights?
flat river
UTILITY
south kayak
we did not
sullen dove
man its gonna be so strange fighting a boss with like 200k hp
south kayak
CSHB might actually be stronger now
olive wraith
Fury actually a bleed class
flat river
well
olive wraith
Lmao
south kayak
difference in damage
flat river
WAIT IT IS AOE SAC
compact knot
funny talent
earnest canyon
WAIT IT IS AOE SAC
Nice sac bro
olive wraith
65% enrage chance? Is that more than live
flat river
funny talent
WALLAHI I SAID THEY SHOULD ADD THIS
young swan
65% enrage chance? Is that more than live
yeah
flat river
AND THEY DID
young swan
live caps at 45%
south kayak
2k seems like a lot
rampage is 2.6k
olive wraith
Holy crap
lean heart
honestly the only thing that is weird and cringe is OF/BS choice node 💀
lowk yeh lmao
lean heart
THIS one is fucking massive
flat river
THIS one is fucking massive
we no longer need to stick to a single target 🥹
restive granite
theyre doing the same bullshit as always with warrior class tree
south kayak
they removed slaughtering strikes, right?
undone flower
we are free of target caps ???
restive granite
why are they dropping so many damage nodes on it
fallen sedge
the class tree looks better at first look
earnest canyon
did they talk through every class in some form ? I was cooking when this thing started, so not sure what was covered
olive wraith
did they talk through every class in some form ? I was cooking when this thing s...
No
flat river
we are free of target caps ???
how long is the cd though
hardy shuttle
we no longer need to stick to a single target 🥹
But probably cant get it up to 12% haste like before
olive wraith
No class stuff
flat river
did they reduce or
proven hornet
we are free of target caps ???
there is fury target that cause rampage to hit 8+ targets
restive granite
the class tree looks better at first look
imo its the same issue, theres no flexibility youre locked into 80% of the tree
fallen sedge
I no longer have to take talents like "you do 1% more damage if Ion likes you on a thursday in arenas" to get rallying cry
proven hornet
sorry not rampage but extra damage after
restive granite
other classes can freely move half of the tree and not lose throughput
south kayak
did no one notice that
olive wraith
sorry not rampage but extra damage after
Seems like a glacial advance type thing
olive wraith
rampage does not enrage you
Oh shit
fallen sedge
imo its the same issue, theres no flexibility youre locked into 80% of the tree
Why do you think that? Not trying to argue, I didn't look into it deeply
south kayak
if I am reading this right, Rampage does not enrage you anymore @young swan
fallen sedge
just started dancing in happiness when I saw rallying cry isn't hidden in siberia anymore
olive wraith
So literally bt/bs or of only
young swan
if I am reading this right, Rampage does not enrage you anymore <@13736331581797...
oh wow
flat river
spear still here in a worse version of itself though lol
south kayak
oh wow
maybe it's a baseline
Actually, from the video
it looked like it still does
nvm
im cooked
restive granite
Why do you think that? Not trying to argue, I didn't look into it deeply
AM and the 3% extra AP one at each side, wild strikes, two handed specialization, barbaric training and many more
lean heart
spear still here in a worse version of itself though lol
maybe they just want it to be used strictly as a CC option
restive granite
like on my dk i can change 80% of my tree and not change a single dps %
stiff furnace
Ha, have to choose between BS and OF, lol.
devout totem
wait so is Rampage replace Slam, we get a +20% increased damage on Rampage with this?
restive granite
i hate it
flat river
TOO BUSY TO LOOK AT NEW TALENTS someone tell me if anything pog is there
everything is
olive wraith
we still have all of our defensives?
And a cheat death
fallen sedge
AM and the 3% extra AP one at each side, wild strikes, two handed specialization...
two handed staying? blizzard whyyy
compact knot
TOO BUSY TO LOOK AT NEW TALENTS someone tell me if anything pog is there
there is good and there is very bad
fallen sedge
TOO BUSY TO LOOK AT NEW TALENTS someone tell me if anything pog is there
i liked interpose
flat river
And a cheat death
2 cheat deaths, one on class tree one on fury tree
quiet breach
i liked interpose
POG
fallen sedge
that talent will rip me so much but you can bet I am taking it for like 2 times it will come in clutch
mossy pelican
Omg are they making int shout useful
flat river
THEY FIXED IT, NOW INCREASES 20% RB AND EXECUTE NOT 30% RB
undone flower
they updated heroic leap tooltip, to acknowledge the most broken tech
south kayak
Does this mean we want more crit? the crit stuff for BT
stiff furnace
Kill or Be Killed in the Fury tree. Requires you to kill the target to survive. It's a cheat death talent.
flat river
they updated heroic leap tooltip, to acknowledge the most broken tech
ahahhaa
south kayak
nvm we still have bloodcraze
olive wraith
Does this mean we want more crit? the crit stuff for BT
Probably. But obviously things are up in the air
We have bleeds
Crit is good for bleeds I’d say
south kayak
huh
olive wraith
Plus if we actually losing enrage on ramp we might lose value in mastery
south kayak
I don't think we're losing that
considering I saw in the video
the haranir rampaging
and enraging
so i was wrong
flat river
im so fucking hyped
olive wraith
Same
flat river
also this
young swan
tree is pretty fuck good
calm swallow
SAME
fiery tide
doesnt this feel kinda odd?
south kayak
lmao
young swan
doesnt this feel kinda odd?
yeah this is the only real problem i have with the tree
flat river
doesnt this feel kinda odd?
less buttons to press 🎦
proven hornet
Holy yes. Fury execute stonks rising
they did get rid of jug tho
olive wraith
they did get rid of jug tho
That’s fine
cobalt relic
have all 723 except screams
quiet breach
wait fury gets a cheat death?
lean heart
agreedge the bladestorm/odyns choice node is odd
olive wraith
The second one you have to kill the target?
young swan
The second one you have to kill the target?
yeah
young swan
so basically 8 seconds of living before u die
olive wraith
agreedge the bladestorm/odyns choice node is odd
Gives thane a aoe cooldown
olive wraith
Imagine being forced into bs as thane
lean heart
Gives thane a aoe cooldown
i guess
young swan
wahts the first one
just an actual cheat death
flat river
wait @edgy widget do u have alpha? why does your things have icons 
proven hornet
2
there is no way we will ba able to play last stand in raid, we will be on battleshout duty 😭
lean prism
Where are you guys seeing these new things was there an update? Sorry I’m a moron
smoky vale
just an actual cheat death
which one is that
south kayak
wait <@61282228017041408> do u have alpha? why does your things have icons <a:hm...
what are the hero talents
quiet breach
guys did they make our current reap the storm slayer 4 PC bonus into a talent?
smoky vale
I CANT FIND IT MAN
wild mural
I CANT FIND IT MAN
noob
olive wraith
Rip unhinged
proven hornet
unhinged shouldnt existed
north geyser
where are you guys finding these talents? is the tree out yet? or do I need alpha to see it?
compact knot
bladestorm enrages you now
chilly fractal
Do my eyes deceive me or did they remove the Frenzy target requirement
compact knot
odyns does not enrage you though
compact knot
wait
proven hornet
odyns does not enrage you though
it is
hardy cargo
guys did they make our current reap the storm slayer 4 PC bonus into a talent?
kinda its a rampage talent below the ww talents rampaging ruin
north geyser
https://www.wowhead.com/news/all-talents-tree-on-midnight-alpha-so-many-new-tale...
ty!
lean prism
https://www.wowhead.com/news/all-talents-tree-on-midnight-alpha-so-many-new-tale...
Ty king
balmy shore
ok i need like revvez to make a sick ass wf play with this
proven hornet
@quiet breach
compact knot
if im reading this right, raging blow has a 65% chance to reset its own cooldown
undone flower
doesnt this feel kinda odd?
bladestorm enrages you
young swan
there is no way we will ba able to play last stand in raid, we will be on battle...
4 bonus talents remember
abstract grail
Rampage now replaces Slam, does that mean effects that modify slam will affect Rampage? like Specifically Barbaric Training? 🤔
compact knot
since baseline raging blow has 25% on the tooltip
proven hornet
4 bonus talents remember
damn u right
smoky vale
WHY IS STORM OF SWORDS STILL IN THE GAME MAN
compact knot
is that nomal
restive peak
I CANT FIND IT MAN
Fuckin DK players I SWEAR BRO
hollow leaf
ok i need like revvez to make a sick ass wf play with this
implying warrior will be good enough for revvez to be brought
jade peak
so SMF is gone?
fiery tide
*bladestorm enrages you*
was thinking more about how they made it a choice between bladestorm and odyns fury
proven hornet
4 bonus talents remember
also delete name slam merged into rampage
young swan
Rampage now replaces Slam, does that mean effects that modify slam will affect R...
thats kind of a thing we'd have to be on alpha for
balmy shore
warrior will be good i am willing it into existence
hollow leaf
so SMF is gone?
in midnight yeah
restive peak
The cone rampage is cool as fuck
undone flower
was thinking more about how they made it a choice between bladestorm and odyns f...
not that weird since ravager is gone
flat river
what are the hero talents
the new ones still not made
hollow leaf
I love the movements to us being more softcapped
undone flower
thane still can't play bs
proven hornet
The cone rampage is cool as fuck
death knight type shit love it
kind bolt
will we be crazy in pvp noow
snow flower
All hail Mountain Thane - getting blasts on Recklessness with universal Anger Management in the class tree
young swan
All hail Mountain Thane - getting blasts on Recklessness with universal Anger Ma...
pretty sure snap induction still sucks cock
narrow onyx
God please let this work with slayer
olive wraith
God please let this work with slayer
Of?
undone flower
*doubt
restive peak
I am interested to see how they work the nerfed BS and slayer forcing it
Into balance
olive wraith
Big doubt
restive peak
I really hope we don't have to cancel storm
calm swallow
so SMF is gone?
AND WE MIGHT GET IT AS A MOG
compact knot
Im not really a fan of this "rework"
restive peak
True so we're just gonna have a shit bladestorm forced, that part is lame
olive wraith
Blizz just collecting w’s
hollow leaf
what cds
flat river
https://www.wowhead.com/news/fully-collecting-a-class-set-appearance-unlocks-all...
finally
olive wraith
it feels like they just made our cds
Rek is actually big
lean heart
i think theyve got some good ideas
restive peak
They're really doubling down on our flat profile for sure
I like parts of it
But CDs are still giga dog
compact knot
Rek is actually big
you get less uptime of it though
hollow leaf
our damage profile is flatter than a minecraft creative world
olive wraith
Getting am and ra at the same time is goated
compact knot
and you where already perma rage capped
warm crag
They're really doubling down on our flat profile for sure
didnt they kill torments
flat river
ngl im sad they removed ravager
restive peak
didnt they kill torments
Ye they're gone
slim coral
can't believe we got a cheat death
restive peak
And BS is "massively nerfed" for fury
flat river
And BS is "massively nerfed" for fury
how?
narrow onyx
Seems insane they'd just overhaul so much
flat river
oh right they removed unhinged
olive wraith
I’m so down for RA+am thane
hardy shuttle
The cone rampage is cool as fuck
Im at work on mobile. Where do you see this
restive peak
Numbers wise its down, unhinged is gone, no longer affected by AM
inner zinc
ngl im sad they removed ravager
Im not. That shit like a wet noodle
olive wraith
Im at work on mobile. Where do you see this
Wowhead has talent trees
flat river
I’m so down for RA+am thane
no ravager though
narrow onyx
Other than the AoE cap being saved by the tier set I thought Fury was fine
slate light
Im at work on mobile. Where do you see this
restive peak
Im at work on mobile. Where do you see this
It's the onslaught lookin node on the far right
olive wraith
no ravager though
That’s fine. We got of
compact knot
no avatar fury feels wrong though
olive wraith
Ravager was only for unhinged
compact knot
if we play RA
restive peak
I love unhinged I am sad
hardy cargo
Numbers wise its down, unhinged is gone, no longer affected by AM
but surely this means they just have the room to increase the damage of the button itself since its not doing as much
hardy shuttle
It's the onslaught lookin node on the far right
o7 mobile is cursed
restive peak
Yeah RA vs Ava is interesting
south kayak
Numbers wise its down, unhinged is gone, no longer affected by AM
We all have to remember that this isn't the final product, obviously
olive wraith
no avatar fury feels wrong though
Avatar is barely a cooldown
south kayak
the iteration changes from alpha to release
restive peak
but surely this means they just have the room to increase the damage of the butt...
I mean they did this because they probably WANT it to not be a huge button
south kayak
is always a lot
restive peak
Ofc not
undone flower
avatar is non existent rn
restive peak
We'll send shit tons of feedback, personally 1 of mine will be that BS being good/strong/often feels very fun
I think nuking it while slayer exists is a big mistake
pale lava
this rework outside removing juggernaut and fixing frenzy feels really unfun
flat river
I love unhinged I am sad
though should prooly bring it back instead of unbridled ferocity
that shit's ass
north geyser
still target capped at 5 and still no funnel :<
olive wraith
People who have been begging for utility
restive peak
Yeah getting rid of unhinged+DOI and keeping UF is a choice
flat river
uncapped aoe?
olive wraith
still target capped at 5 and still no funnel :<
You’re actually blind
restive peak
Ye we'll probably play a ramp/bs focused AOE build now with the new cone talent+reap not being on RB anymore
pale lava
Rampage dealing softcapped frontal AoE doesn't change your gameplay
restive peak
Which is cool, IDGAF which button I press to do the spin as long as I spin
olive wraith
Rampage dealing softcapped frontal AoE doesn't change your gameplay
Does it have to?
restive peak
They don't need to change the gameplay every expansion
tidal kindle
Rampage dealing softcapped frontal AoE doesn't change your gameplay
Positioning big gameplay change
pale lava
nah I actually like the current iteration, I feel like the new one is off by a large margin sadly
the BS nerf while slayer exists is so weird too
compact knot
these kinds of talent are really fucking bad btw and we have 5 of them
restive peak
Well we have a solid 4-5 months of feedback to give, which is good
compact knot
stupid design
pale lava
odyn/bs node xd
south kayak
I hope the rotation priority isn't out of whack like it is rn with RB spam
flat river
the BS nerf while slayer exists is so weird too
how did they nerf it though
just by removing unhinged?
pale lava
Well we have a solid 4-5 months of feedback to give, which is good
true, we gotta send a lot of it though
restive peak
I think all of those things Khazix just linked are them trying to force us OUT of spamming 1 button
But it's very weird
olive wraith
nah I actually like the current iteration, I feel like the new one is off by a l...
You don’t even know the new playstyle lmao
south kayak
I think all of those things Khazix just linked are them trying to force us OUT o...
Yeah it definitely is
narrow onyx
We also don't have our Apex talents
compact knot
except it wont though
quiet breach
SO FUCKING POG this is for fury?
compact knot
because they also added
fiery tide
have they made piercing howl baseline in midnight? cant find it in talent tree
restive peak
Ye apex talents please though, and we'll still always press whatever is strongest and spam it
undone flower
We also don't have our Apex talents
And miss some hero talents
pale lava
You don’t even know the new playstyle lmao
not sure why you're so aggressive like I insulted your life's work but you can read the talents and guess the playstyle from there
compact knot
well
olive wraith
not sure why you're so aggressive like I insulted your life's work but you can r...
How is that aggressive lol
compact knot
it will
flat river
have they made piercing howl baseline in midnight? cant find it in talent tree
its a node with berserker should
compact knot
itll make us push bloodthirst every 5 raging blows
iron plaza
just by removing unhinged?
Unhinged and AM
restive peak
xD
fiery tide
lul im blind
narrow onyx
Looking at some of the other classes, the Apex Talents are basically killing the hero talents by locking them.
Like Frost's Apex Talents are all about Frostwyrm's Fury which heavily favours riders
restive peak
Back to the guaranteed crit chaching tier set bro
pale lava
SO FUCKING POG this is for fury?
Purgatory but it's the Conan the Barbarian version
restive peak
Fr
flat river
Unhinged and AM
wait they made AM not reduce blaestorm cd?
flat river
its so cooked
balmy shore
How is that aggressive lol
you don't even know aggression
young swan
i follow weakaura
well no
iron plaza
wait they made AM not reduce blaestorm cd?
By the looks of it yes but AM is in the class tree
restive peak
Mage mains forever safe bro
compact knot
its not
undone flower
It’s on the right
compact knot
btw
young swan
oh its just hidden
pale lava
bloodcraze is still there
young swan
okay thats cringe
restive peak
Bloodcraze dying would've been a gift
compact knot
repeat
slate light
guys can someone link bis talent and gear for season 1 midnight ty
olive wraith
Wonder if execute is usable on thane now
compact knot
can we stop forcing bloodcraze
iron plaza
Why is not much damage gaining talents on class tree capstones is a bad thing btw?
Weren't we asking for it ?
pale lava
it's current fury but we have cds less often
iron plaza
Literally
undone flower
bloodthirst
Fully depends on tuning of those buttons, so no one knows really
pale lava
lmao
tidal kindle
you don't even know aggression
Most aggressive fury warrior makes appearance
restive peak
I mean to be fair, we haven't looked into every class/spec enough to know if there's some overall design direction that makes some of this make more sense
tidal kindle
narrow onyx
slim coral
I stil don't understand the obsesssion with spiteful serentiy
pale lava
I stil don't understand the obsesssion with spiteful serentiy
turbo trash talent
will never be good
iron plaza
I mean to be fair, we haven't looked into every class/spec enough to know if the...
Trust me if you are going to lose your shit now over the first week, you will go insane till S1 of Midnight starts
narrow onyx
I say that, but I actually think Pit of Saron would fuck as M+. It's basically just Halls of Atonement/Priory but blue
balmy shore
Most aggressive fury warrior makes appearance
yeah that's YOU!
restive peak
Trust me if you are going to lose your shit now over the first week, you will go...
Yeah ofc, this is just a skeleton for now
compact knot
ITS BAD DESIGNNN
tidal kindle
yeah that's YOU!
balmy shore
<:spidermanpointing:1174020640009879632>
are u playing midnight
young swan
crit synergy is good
iron plaza
ITS BAD DESIGNNN
Elaborate ?
young swan
they just need to nuke bloodcraze
iron plaza
They are expanding on BT crits
olive wraith
4 bleeds!
pale lava
np they have time to cook but we need to let them know that this just isn't it
tidal kindle
are u playing midnight
Yah, on a tier by tier basis
tidal kindle
chat did they give us any utility?
Sac
olive wraith
chat did they give us any utility?
Yes
balmy shore
they gave us sac and wind rush
tidal kindle
Rally gives ms
restive peak
I mean I personally don't want to be a bleed spec, so I agree any of those talents feel bad to me
compact knot
Elaborate ?
i mean like the "for 12 seconds part"
hardy cargo
chat did they give us any utility?
disorient roar and windrush totem
wild mural
they gave us sac and wind rush
wow
tidal kindle
BSHOUT IS 3% STRONGER
wild mural
so good
tidal kindle
BSHOUT OP
slim coral
THis talent is so nuts tho
tidal kindle
HOLY
quiet breach
pogg
slim coral
talk about value
compact knot
THis talent is so nuts tho
this was my favorite pvp talent
young swan
BSHOUT IS 3% STRONGER
only for us
olive wraith
disorient roar and windrush totem
And interlope
tidal kindle
only for us
Oh dogshit
iron plaza
THis talent is so nuts tho
We have it now as pvp talent but yeah it's good
restive peak
PHYS COMP CONFIRMED META S1
balmy shore
yippie 3% bshout for us !
young swan
Oh dogshit
i mean its still insane lmfao
balmy shore
olive wraith
Ya lol
tidal kindle
SO MUCH FK W
quiet breach
is 30% alot?
restive peak
We def got some utility increases here
olive wraith
Move speed? It’s not a huge amount but it’s good
heavy galleon
we are still hard cap target as fury for Midnight no ?
pure echo
LOL. Is this a PvP talent or fury talent?
lean heart
uncapped fear is very good
olive wraith
we are still hard cap target as fury for Midnight no ?
No
iron plaza
Can someone say why Archi is saying like having less damage gain talents and abilities on class tree is a bad thing ?
Literally most classes are like this
pale lava
we are still hard cap target as fury for Midnight no ?
yes besides the talent that makes Rampage steal Dreadnaught from Arms
undone flower
OH FEAR IS UNCAPPED DISORIENT
and piercing howl
balmy shore
feels weird seeing utility
forest owl
THis talent is so nuts tho
is this a normal talent or hero one?
olive wraith
I’m not gonna have enough keybinds
slim coral
Fury can finally deal damage to more than 5 targets
olive wraith
Rip
iron plaza
is this a normal talent or hero one?
Normal
restive peak
feels weird seeing utility
We're gonna have to press buttons beyond dmg buttons D:
slim coral
is this a normal talent or hero one?
normal
compact knot
i dont want to juggle 17 different buffs that only last 4 seconds
maybe just me though
all good
olive wraith
1k damage also seems like quite a bit compared to the other tooltips
restive peak
i dont want to juggle 17 different buffs that only last 4 seconds
We def agree on this 1 my dude haha
pale lava
gonna feel so weird to get used to these giga low numbers
solemn heart
Hi , I had champion trin from 1st boss, today I get antenna hc and I feel like I lose dps in mplus anyone had that issue or I am just dumb and cant play with antena ?
iron plaza
We def agree on this 1 my dude haha
then how do you make one spec engaging ?
hardy cargo
Fury can finally deal damage to more than 5 targets
theres also the cool aoe bleed in the class tree
restive peak
Yeah numbers wise we have zero fuckin clue what hp pools etc are yet
compact knot
like bloodthirst has a buff that only lasts 4 seconds
raging blow has a buff that only last 4 seconds
enrage only lasts 4 seconds
terrible
restive peak
then how do you make one spec engaging ?
Spec is engaging now
quiet breach
FUCK IM SO EXCITED AHHHH IM GONNA BUST
compact knot
its so bad
olive wraith
theres also the cool aoe bleed in the class tree
Which?
young swan
i dont want to juggle 17 different buffs that only last 4 seconds
u wotn
hollow leaf
I WANT COLLECTORS EDITION NOW 😡
restive peak
Some people like juggling a shit ton of diff debuffs/buffs etc, they're called affliction locks
young swan
u will just play the game
flat river
also the thing with removing unhinged, you're going to have a few seconds of recklessness wasted without casting bloodbath
undone flower
yeah you won't care about these small buffs realy
wary fjord
fury not having avatar with mountain thane is kind of wack, probably gonna be changed later in development
iron plaza
Spec is engaging now
Is it ? We are spamming RB like there is no tomorrow
abstract grail
I've heard a a claim that defensives are being pruned, but did fury lose any existing defensives?
restive peak
I mean there's a chance you try to go into a pack holding CDs until you're ready TO bloodbath
olive wraith
fury not having avatar with mountain thane is kind of wack, probably gonna be ch...
How so?
flat river
fury not having avatar with mountain thane is kind of wack, probably gonna be ch...
you can pick between avatar and reckless abandon
hardy cargo
i dont want to juggle 17 different buffs that only last 4 seconds
being that theres not one for rb I think youll just press exe > bt on cd and spam rb as filler in between sd proc/ bt cd
restive peak
We'll figure that out once we get to the M+/raid testing portion
slate light
I've heard a a claim that defensives are being pruned, but did fury lose any exi...
gained a couple
compact knot
being that theres not one for rb I think youll just press exe > bt on cd and spa...
there is one for rb
quiet breach
is anger management/reckless abandon still a choice node/still in the game?
compact knot
technically 2
restive peak
Is it ? We are spamming RB like there is no tomorrow
Different people like different things, I don't want to juggle bleeds etc or I'd play feral/rogue/lock
flat river
no
south kayak
is anger management/reckless abandon still a choice node/still in the game?
AM is now a class tree talent
quiet breach
oooooo
flat river
is anger management/reckless abandon still a choice node/still in the game?
AM in class tree, RA in spec tree
forest owl
should we doom for warrior midnight? i feel like we should doom cuz we usually do
azure cedar
off topic but im glad we can unlock lower difficulty variants for the sets once we collect the mythic one
pale lava
Different people like different things, I don't want to juggle bleeds etc or I'd...
this, we already have classes that juggle bleeds
flat river
although AM nerfed and no longer reduces bladestorm CD
young swan
should we doom for warrior midnight? i feel like we should doom cuz we usually d...
no it looks sick
olive wraith
should we doom for warrior midnight? i feel like we should doom cuz we usually d...
I ain’t dooming
hardy cargo
there is one for rb
u talking abt the auto attk one? fair
restive peak
We have zero idea what any of the balance/changes look like across the game board, but we have a decent skeleton here
olive wraith
although AM nerfed and no longer reduces bladestorm CD
Honestly that’s good imo. Mfe already gives plenty
tidal kindle
no it looks sick
No need more doom
undone flower
although AM nerfed and no longer reduces bladestorm CD
you don't care about that
restive peak
And dropped a lot of useless/annoying shit, we lost a few good 1s too
balmy shore
We're gonna have to press buttons beyond dmg buttons D:
better than pressing zero buttons from not being TAKEN LINCC
tidal kindle
Doom till live
narrow onyx
I was hearing from a byddt that mage ALSO has a much flatter profile, so that might be a thing they're doing across the boatd
flat river
like it looks really good and probably will be but the bladestorm thing is lowkey sadgers
restive peak
better than pressing zero buttons from not being TAKEN LINCC
FAX NO PRINTER JACKIE
balmy shore
💅
iron plaza
Do we know the extra 3 new talents for hero talents ?
quiet breach
is there any way I can access the new talent tree from my phone
olive wraith
Afaik no apex yet
quiet breach
so I can look myself
flat river
this talent in arenas is going to go bonkers
narrow onyx
is there any way I can access the new talent tree from my phone
if you can put up with WoWhead they've got it
restive peak
We don't know apex yet
iron plaza
I feel like BS' cdr from Slayer is fine enough we don't need it from AM
pale lava
Everytime I see you Jackie, I think of Kelso and the coat scene
for a moment I thought you were talking about Alani Kelso from The Division
spare steppe
this talent in arenas is going to go bonkers
Why? You’d likely still die after 5s
iron plaza
Especially if they put the 2p on the hero talent
wraith wharf
this talent in arenas is going to go bonkers
Valkyrie is back!
compact knot
meanwhile mages get 2 charges of totm
flat river
Why? You’d likely still die after 5s
solo shuffle free win
compact knot
ill just go play mage man
olive wraith
meanwhile mages get 2 charges of totm
Holy shit
spare steppe
Oh PvP
narrow onyx
We don't know apex yet
Some of the other specs have Apex talents that lock them into a specific build. Like Frost's Apex talent all deal with frostwyrm which massively favours rider over deathbringer
balmy shore
Everytime I see you Jackie, I think of Kelso and the coat scene
don't age urself
narrow onyx
so like that could happen to us
quiet breach
if you can put up with WoWhead they've got it
link?
compact knot
maybe we could get cdr on odysn and have 2 charges of odyns or something
narrow onyx
compact knot
but nope
undone flower
this talent in arenas is going to go bonkers
even in raid, if it is indeed an immune
wary fjord
wait, since rampage replaces slam, does this mean they will make barbaric training buff rampage now? hmm
interesting
summer zephyr
holy we can swap targets and not lose frenzy?
compact knot
odyns doesnt even give us ww stacks anymore so no reason to take it
restive peak
don't age urself
I'm so old I can't even lie
compact knot
and its shared with bs
young swan
ill just go play mage man
first build guy
restive peak
Some of the other specs have Apex talents that lock them into a specific build. ...
Who has their apex already??
young swan
this is insane for a first build
olive wraith
odyns doesnt even give us ww stacks anymore so no reason to take it
It’s still aoe and bleed