fury

[sullen dove]

ansurek??

hello??

[smoky vale]

what

no way

[radiant plank]

it is ansurek

[smoky vale]

waht

[radiant plank]

GZ soredish

[sly oasis]

Yeah that makes sense. Okie I'll send sac

[radiant plank]

its rank 1 fury ansurek kill

[junior gale]

what does soredish win

[sullen dove]

can tell who didnt play dps warrior on ansurek

[undone flower]

Oh yeah p2 second platforms is the first bump

[smoky vale]

Bro what

i got ce

die

[radiant plank]

buying doesnt count gio

[sullen dove]

you were tanking no

also true

[smoky vale]

no

i tanked like 60 p1 pulls

then subbed in someones guild

[sullen dove]

did no dam then ig to not recognize the breakdown realge

but yea u do zero damage on that fight

until first set of babies in p2

me when 1 second long silken tombs and 19/20 are insta broken

[potent citrus]

is using 3 diff colour masterful gems bait

[smoky vale]

when is sordish gonna put babies in me

[radiant plank]

This one should be way more obvious

[sullen dove]

when are you gonna stop talking

broodtwister

[potent citrus]

archon showing people running only masterful emerald

[smoky vale]

brood

[undone flower]

Ovinax daddy

[radiant plank]

waaw

[smoky vale]

walhe

why isnt he gonna do it

[radiant plank]

gz guys

[radiant plank]

sim yourself

[smoky vale]

can you post colussy on silken

[potent citrus]

dont have raidbots premium 🥀

i will wait for friend to be home ig

[junior gale]

theres 5 different colors and no its not. Run the move speed gem or your a noob

[potent citrus]

https://i.hep.gg/n7Klv8_wK

👍

[radiant plank]

no

but guess this one

its an arms warrior log

[sullen dove]

is that the whole fight

ulgrax

[radiant plank]

whole fight

[sullen dove]

idk if ulg adds that late tho

wait 400k

nah

like sum

[radiant plank]

I can spoil that its abit older than TWW

[sullen dove]

u werent hittin that like ever in sl

so df

400k kinda beans tho so early

[radiant plank]

Might be a bit older than SL

[sullen dove]

k so ur a freak

[junior gale]

b b b bfa

[sullen dove]

pre stat squish

[smoky vale]

PLEASE MAN

[radiant plank]

WoD actually

Goated breakdown ngl

[potent citrus]

final boss of castle nathria?

[junior gale]

Enhanced rend

[young swan]

true goat breakdown

[junior gale]

new apex talent

[undone flower]

Pre-E X E C U T E vid times

[smoky vale]

what is thei

[radiant plank]

CN is not a WoD raid im afraid

[smoky vale]

is that tom

i miss tom

[sullen dove]

what is tom

[potent citrus]

OH WOD

[young swan]

u are so stupid gio

[radiant plank]

legion

[smoky vale]

[sullen dove]

🥀

[young swan]

can u guess the boss

[smoky vale]

[sullen dove]

obv legion

by like

the names of 10 of those spells

[radiant plank]

I did not play this videogame in legion

[smoky vale]

*ld

[junior gale]

im sorry for your loss

[radiant plank]

the WoD breakdown is from Ko'ragh in highmaul

[sullen dove]

see idk if thats aoe or if thats what fury looked like on st

if of was op

but surely thats aoe

[junior gale]

last 2 patches of legion owned

[undone flower]

Hide the spells names on the next one

[junior gale]

begining sucked tho

[sullen dove]

about 1mil sustained tho is surely like antorus

cuz i think that execute vid only capped out at like 2.x m dps

[young swan]

yeah

[sullen dove]

perhaps nighthold

[young swan]

it was varimathras

3m dps

(my log)

[sullen dove]

so that is singletarget

[young swan]

its ST with some intermittent add spawn

[sullen dove]

and you just go from 1m to 5m every 45 seconds for fun

o did he spawn adds

wack

[young swan]

1 every like

20-25s

which means

66% uptime on lust

(old war machine)

[sullen dove]

yea why are there 3 lusts

[young swan]

it was gross

thats when i was actually decent at parsing

kind of

[potent citrus]

https://i.hep.gg/iq0EfFPGL

[young swan]

peaked in bfa

downhill since then

[sullen dove]

i dont think i really started until like aberrus

[radiant plank]

Arms breakdown from a DF raid

[sullen dove]

did do some decents in sepulcher and vault tho

kurog

[undone flower]

I started fury in TWW so I don’t have the knowledge of previous

[radiant plank]

damn

[sullen dove]

no?

i was about to say im not sure why the burst at 3:30 would be that much higher without lust

then realized if its heroic boss prolly in execute

or maybe even mythic got that low

[undone flower]

The spider boss had adds at the end no ? I don’t’ remember

It would explain the dps downfalls with runnings moment, unsure

[sullen dove]

what sennarth

[radiant plank]

yeah that was r1 mythic kurog

[sullen dove]

i dont think sennarth small adds mattered

u were like only 2targetting aside from like on pull

could aoe decently just then

[undone flower]

I haven’t play DF a lot, I vaguely know few bosses

[young swan]

goat damage breakdown

[solar parcel]

Hey peeps, just got the stone idol trinket, how are u guys using it? just macro it or have it as a seperate cast

[chilly fractal]

Iirc Sennarth adds just kinda died to Odyn’s

[frank dawn]

you can't macro it because its on gcd and has a cast time - for stone idol trinket

[solar parcel]

ah dam so make it seperate

does it work with enrage

[undone flower]

Thursday is the arms rework day right ?

[smoky vale]

@radiant plank genshin check

[misty edge]

yeah its being deleted

[undone flower]

Megabonk Check

[smoky vale]

apook

how do i attend infinity seminar

[young swan]

u dont

[undone flower]

Deeps inside I have the wish : combat rogue treatment

[misty edge]

ask xan he shows up every time

creeper

[smoky vale]

if i keep asking him

ill explode

[young swan]

ask vil or xeos

they will be so rational about it

[smoky vale]

ooo could ask vil

[sullen dove]

@young swan goat breakdown or goat breakdown

[young swan]

dogshit

[modest condor]

bring back mbg

[visual wing]

So mythic helm and Ring of Collapsing Stars in the vault. I know to sim, but are people generally avoiding tier helm? I absolutely have been.

[misty edge]

bring back condemn

[smoky vale]

what was this

[undone flower]

2 min bust is unusual for short fights

[sullen dove]

zaqali maybe

looks cooked tho

[chilly fractal]

Just cough up a million gold and buy a BoE

[modest condor]

first boss

loboz build

[sullen dove]

in what

[modest condor]

amir

[undone flower]

TWW

[sullen dove]

1.2m dps?

[smoky vale]

w silm

[coarse nest]

thats rashanan?

[sullen dove]

i guess

[coarse nest]

[sullen dove]

i think i have r1 fated on dat shit

ez

[smoky vale]

instabuxt

[dapper goblet]

fobber

[sullen dove]

big fan

[modest condor]

genuinely no clue

[sullen dove]

lel

[modest condor]

anduin maybe? or jailer?

[sullen dove]

3m dps peak

holy

[modest condor]

no you didnt lust there on jailer

[undone flower]

still a DF one or pre number squish

[sullen dove]

df

[modest condor]

tindral prepatch?

[sullen dove]

naw

close doe

[undone flower]

swordish doesn't have wcl premium

[modest condor]

fyrakk prepatch?

[sullen dove]

yer

[undone flower]

can't see archived logs

[sullen dove]

archive is only like over 3 years or sum no

i cant see sl logs but all df ones should be good i think

[remote bobcat]

good evening

[sullen dove]

this tindral doe

funny boss

[undone flower]

yes that's why i eliminate pre number squish

[sullen dove]

my guild will NOT be doing damage

[modest condor]

i remember everybody was going on about bm hunters during prepatch

[coarse nest]

bro sniped it all

hollyy

[modest condor]

and then i came in as fury warrior

[dapper goblet]

how much damage was your axe

curious

[sullen dove]

pretty bad on that one actually

[young swan]

idiot fuckign xeos

get bent

[sullen dove]

they died a little too fast

[undone flower]

Forbidden OF damage

[sullen dove]

real talk why is of doing the same damage now as it was 2 years ago

200k dps eh

maybe even less now

[coarse nest]

missed it in the auras

smh

[misty edge]

heroic nerubar palace crimes

[sullen dove]

1 week of "oh nooo this spec is so gooood"

honestly tho like

it was ok ish coming out of that season

[undone flower]

i checked, IT IS TRUE LMAO

[sullen dove]

but then going into s2 they just rework tt and ra

to be worthless

ra doesnt matter in this scenario tho

but like holy waste of development time

"oh boy rampage is going to cost 60 rage instead of 80 surely anybody will give a flying fuck!"

[undone flower]

OF on ovinax was 300k

[sullen dove]

yea it was good then

its doing even less now im sayin

also cuz like we had 33% more of em

[undone flower]

[sullen dove]

ovi especially odyns is like designed for

yea thats the real crime

odyns at least does more damage than roar

some fucking how

[undone flower]

i miss RA a lil bit, i hope they cook something about it

[charred flint]

yikes

[olive wraith]

Same

[charred flint]

I almost quit during df season 1

[dapper goblet]

you are a tard

[olive wraith]

They ruined it

[charred flint]

thank god .5 came through

[olive wraith]

DF s1 wasn’t bad because of RA

[undone flower]

i never was personnally mad with builder > spender gameplay

[olive wraith]

It was bad because we didn’t have tier

[charred flint]

thats like

your opinion man

i hated the RA playstyle.

i dont want to burst

[olive wraith]

You can’t hate RA and like this season

[charred flint]

i want to do the same shitty damage constantly

[unborn delta]

taking antenna i lose damage?

[charred flint]

I dont care about overcapping rage i care about how useless we were outside of cds

[charred flint]

Aparently yea

[unborn delta]

why

[charred flint]

idk man

[unborn delta]

sac + arcano better?

[charred flint]

you might have a lot of crit

is sac 723?

[unborn delta]

yea

[olive wraith]

What are you simming

[unborn delta]

ST

[undone flower]

antenna is not the best ST trinket

[unborn delta]

this is 3T

[olive wraith]

Isn’t arcano busted for st

[undone flower]

it is

[unborn delta]

ig arcano+sac beter

i have arcano sac stonecore

[olive wraith]

For st sure

Or low targets

[unborn delta]

vault is speedy antenna + myth gloves

fuck i keep mixing them up

i rly want to justify taking the antenna

[charred flint]

if you carea bout m+

you should

[hoary anchor]

Hi, does anybody have the enrage/WW weak auras? I tried a few from wago.io and they dont seem to work

[olive wraith]

There’s definitely merits for being a flat profile. But I’d like to at least be somewhat bursty

Our cooldowns hardly do anything and that doesn’t feel good

[remote bobcat]

uhhh??? you can just make one

[charred flint]

I honestly dont care about that but i understand people who do

[hoary anchor]

Oh, I see. Sorry, Im clueless about weak auras and addons in general. Thanks!

[olive wraith]

I’m sure there’s a happy medium where we are decent outside of cooldowns with some burst with cooldowns

But I agree I don’t like ALL our damage being tied to cooldowns

[remote bobcat]

we also have the #ui-addons-manager channel for that kinda stuff

[unborn delta]

5 target arcanocore is still better than antenna with 15% miss chance

[remote bobcat]

dropped 10mil overall in a +10 but couldnt beat fdk

sadeg

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xHBTAyqZcDbmPjNV?fight=last

[lucid epoch]

Is 5.05m overall in a +10 at 691 any good? Struggling to get back into DPS after healer maining for 2 years

Being beaten by destro locks 10 ilvl lower so I can't tell if I'm just dogwater

[desert zodiac]

do you have 4 piece?

[lucid epoch]

Yeah

[desert zodiac]

at 691 5 mil is fine

[olive wraith]

Depends

On key, pull sizes. What other classes were dps

[remote bobcat]

I mean overall dps is not indicative of how well u played

shrugeg

[vague spire]

Guys, quick question... Im proggresing Salhadaar MM atm, im noticing that we can "reflect" the banishment debuff, the one that explodes on expiration... You guys know if we can stay on mele DPSing? Or we do damage to our party?

[sullen dove]

does it do dmg to the party on m?

if thats a mythic change maybe but as far as i know the mech it doesnt hurt others

[remote bobcat]

mythic*, we dont say mm around here we arent french

also banish dot pop doesnt do any aoe dmg why would u think that

[restive peak]

It does a small splash, it will still hit peeps as far as I know

Just protects you

[remote bobcat]

no shot

[restive peak]

Wait it doesn't? You sure? Could've swore it did on mythic

[remote bobcat]

we had zero

and i mean zero

issues with it

on nexus king prog

just stay on target with it

people are in the back with claw anyway

[restive peak]

Nah he's right, you good, just reflect and chill

fight is giga payphone for our role, thank god

Ranged out there crashin out

[remote bobcat]

the word "bursts" indicates aoe but its a ST pop

[vague spire]

So we can stay mele and reflect it?

[remote bobcat]

you are supposed to stay melee

yes

[sullen dove]

yea usually itd specify "x yard range around the player" id say

[vague spire]

oh so no damage to party really? i thought so

[remote bobcat]

no

[remote bobcat]

on nexus king your job is to stay on target 24/7 unless you get claw, then you stay until claw starts and you cancel the claw with charge + spell reflect

claw = spell reflect
banishment = spell reflect
p2 platform dash ability = spell reflect
star killer swing = spell reflect

we are giga chilling on that boss

we ignore dots

[spiral orbit]

what is the claw cancel tech? can i get more info

[undone flower]

spell reflect and charge

[sullen dove]

well spell reflect to not take damage from it popping and u can also try to charge the knockback so u arent slid across the claw still

but that 2nd bit is like more dangerous would try to either wait until the hit goes through or if youre really sure its about to fall off in like .5 seconds

so you dont yknow just charge into your raid with a claw debuff still on you

[smoky vale]

meow

[radiant spindle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tXYyC3PrBJkvfgLhtgSmH7

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vtAZJUcjecHdrM43w1rk89

[dense birch]

so where can i find that WA to track WW without the delay?

[radiant spindle]

What one would u take? aoe or st?

[dense birch]

for one minute i was like "why would i track WW for st?" haha

[radiant spindle]

lol

[olive wraith]

Search Madox in this channel

He posted one a few days ago

[silver tapir]

Ive been blessed. Mythic track weaps on warr, hunter and DH

[dense birch]

easier to find now he's yellow

[olive wraith]

Ya lol

[earnest canyon]

Who is the best yellow

[olive wraith]

Skill or vibes

[earnest canyon]

one for each

[feral ivy]

LETSS GOOOO 2 2h wep this week

got mythic boots tho

[olive wraith]

Skill probably baze or Linc?

[radiant spindle]

how we sim for dungon again? for fury?

5 boss 1:30? patchwork?

[cobalt horizon]

Only thing decent in my vault is a belt but that actually might be poggers because delve gets nerfed next week

[cobalt horizon]

large

[mighty patio]

hey dudes , any thoughts on swapping mana oil for the stone that gives 400 attack power ?

[olive wraith]

What are you trying to figure out

[summer quail]

you can sim it

[mighty patio]

yeha fair enough XD. will do

[radiant spindle]

Trying to sim, those 2 but for aoe and st to see if i want the ring or Shoulders with avoid,

I do raid and m+

so tryin to see what benefits the higher Dps, for both.

Im craftin a wep, today.

[olive wraith]

Just do an st sim

[earnest canyon]

ur being very helpful today

[radiant spindle]

kk

[cobalt relic]

all gg

gn all

[earnest canyon]

gg gn wp

[olive wraith]

I’m helpful everyday

[earnest canyon]

I have really bad gas. Do you have any remedies?

[olive wraith]

I ain’t a doctor

[thorny peak]

help me pick my next upgrade cuz i keep getting an error on sims

[olive wraith]

Listen to one hour of zebra Bananza then text me in the morning

[olive wraith]

What trinks do you have

[thorny peak]

hero line sacbrood and arcanocore

[olive wraith]

Do you run keys often

[thorny peak]

i run them often enough

[olive wraith]

Idol is probably your best then

[earnest canyon]

That is good advice even if the zebra was the worst ability

[queen panther]

damn x_x

to many choices

but obv weapon reeee

[olive wraith]

Hero trinks are replaceable

[silver tapir]

100% weap. Its a great one too

[queen panther]

truth

[brittle crow]

i kinda wanna make a tauren for legion remix

regular or highmountain tho

[lucid epoch]

Of course not but that's just sort of willfully obtuse. I didn't ask how well I'd played, just if 5m was the general field that a 691 could be expected to be near or if I was doing half what I should be

[young swan]

5m is prob fine

[lucid epoch]

I main healer and my friend mains prot so I literally never have DPS warriors around, 0 idea if they're even meant to draw oxygen lmao. Haven't played fury since 10.1

[lucid epoch]

ty ty

[clever abyss]

Slayer fury guides - do yall prefer IV or wowhead’s guides?

[signal steeple]

Weapon or ring. You'll eventually want myth trinkets so those three are short term only. eco dome bands are in your crafting embellishment slot.

[young swan]

they're both written by the same person

[wind citrus]

when should i bladestrom on soulbinder? another warrior in my group did 200 million more dmg on bladestorm

[silver tapir]

On pull. It will be back for the 2 adds if you hit a couple of execute procs

Then make sure you have it for when all the adds come in in the middle

Hit 99 H and 90M doing that

[low oak]

after we get t4 do we even need bt on our taskbar

[austere loom]

Question.. is this trinket sim bait?

[undone flower]

Yes

[radiant spindle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1RE9u3JUB9QPPNRTsz6iXA Okay so 0 of my items from vault are worth?!?! tf? or sim broken

[austere loom]

it seems negligible @ 2.1% of total damage after most dungeons

[olive wraith]

That’s cause it’s an st trink

[austere loom]

so the 7k constant str is why is good?

[undone flower]

I never check its dmg, but 2% in a dungeon seems good for an st trinket in a dungeon no ?

[olive wraith]

That is pretty good for trink damage imo

Idol is probably similar but it does give stat as well

[austere loom]

just seemed underwhelming compared to idol

[radiant spindle]

Am im siming wrong? or it broken?

[olive wraith]

Again. It’s an st trink lol

Of course an aoe trink will sim better in aoe

[undone flower]

It is indeed 2% in my arak 17

[quiet breach]

ok, im looking at casts, im looking at lorrgs (i can barely comprehend this website im ngl), i cannot figure out why im so shit at forgeweaver. can someone plz look logs and tell me what i need to do to not parse green

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Cq8Db7YM9BfzgdvG?fight=7&type=casts&source=11

[olive wraith]

Aren’t araz parses like 90% ad pad dependent

[quiet breach]

idk

ive 2 kills and parsed green on both

[undone flower]

Do you soak after the first intermission ?

[quiet breach]

no

i do leave the boss if i get pools tho

i soak in 2nd group

[undone flower]

Do you skip second intermission ? I think lot of ppl do now

[quiet breach]

no

[solar parcel]

Hey guys can we do anything to help with this weeks devour affix?

[undone flower]

Check on wcl if many kills under 6 or so min, it means they skipped it

[quiet breach]

press undying when u get it

[olive wraith]

What’s your vault

[radiant spindle]

Myth shoulders myth bis hast mast ring.

[olive wraith]

Is that the hp absorb thingy

[solar parcel]

Yeah

[gentle plover]

should i set up a macro to switch to a shield so i can use sheild block?

[quiet breach]

no

[olive wraith]

Impending victory can heal a bunch back

[solar parcel]

Ah ok, but no dispel

[radiant spindle]

shoulders with avoid

[olive wraith]

Did you include upgrade levels

[radiant spindle]

yes

[undone flower]

No impeding victory emote

[olive wraith]

“Bis” ring doesn’t mean much if you have too much haste and mastery

[olive wraith]

Then something is wrong with the sim but idk what

[zinc remnant]

guys, does Warrior Fury have a damage cap at 5 targets?

[olive wraith]

No shot 704 tier isn’t beaten by myth ilvl

[undone flower]

Yes

[olive wraith]

No

[zinc remnant]

yes or no? hahahaha

[lime perch]

Make

Warrior

[undone flower]

In our head we don’t, but yes we do have a hard cap on whirlwind cleaved abilities, soft caps on bladestorm and reap the storm

[radiant spindle]

thats what im sayin.. but look at the sim.. like wtf? i have the crests and valor stones.

[delicate spear]

friends, why does droptimizer tell me heroic belts are a ~1.5% upgrade over disc, while top gear tells me heroic belts are a ~0.5% downgrade over disc? are I crazy?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u8jbnayTT2ATDAUGwWbyBb
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hgs5c7LqBX6tc3fF5MAnjd

[radiant spindle]

thats why im askin is broken lol

[zinc remnant]

hmmm, nice ty man

[undone flower]

You can notice it on the first pull of gambit, flood or priory

[olive wraith]

You sure you highlighted the vault stuff ?

[radiant spindle]

GV

[olive wraith]

Does that top one not say it’s an upgrade

[zinc remnant]

yes, they all do absurd damage in large pulls and I always keep the same average, maybe now there is an explanation

[olive wraith]

I don’t see a problem here lol

[undone flower]

Basically at a certain target number like 10+ (number to give example), you can add more targets it will not change significantly your dmg

Sim patchwerk 8 target and patchwerk 10, you will already see it doesn’t go +25%

[zinc remnant]

for simulating 5 targets in 1:30s is that ideal then?

[young swan]

yes and no, our rotational abilities are hardcapped to 5 targets but we have ways to get around that with things like reap the storm, bladestorm, odyns fury, all of which are available either frequently or semi frequently enough that it makes up for the cap

[olive wraith]

Depends what you want to check

[undone flower]

How fury works, you can sim ST for stats/regular items, and look trinket usage / sim them separately in AoE sims

[zinc remnant]

ty for explanation guys

[undone flower]

You can beat every bad players as fury, whatever they play if it is a question

[compact knot]

dude i NEED more vers

i already have big momma neck

cant get more vers

[low oak]

i just got t4 and this was some misc +2 run teaching a friend about m+, what could i be doing wrong to have reap be so low

[compact knot]

are you going into every pack with bladestorm

[summer quail]

bladestorm at the start of every pack

[compact knot]

probably not in a +2

[noble cypress]

I have been playing fury wrong ive been casting rampage as often as possible, i now know to cast above 115 rage, but whats the leeway with that, if im at 112 do i rampage or cast raging blow and cap rage then rampage

[compact knot]

there isnt really a certain rage amount to when you cast rampage

[low oak]

probably what im not thinking of doing

[low oak]

probably not

[compact knot]

you push rampage to enrage yourself and that is the highest prio, then you push rampage if you cant raging blow/execute

[remote bobcat]

your 4set is enabled by overwhelmed, which gets applied by bladestorm

so ye baldestorm every pack

yeppers

[compact knot]

baldstorm

[noble cypress]

ah ok so youre not too worried about being rage capped its just uptime on enrage

[compact knot]

yeah

you also wanna make sure you dont overcap slaughtering strike stacks over 5

[noble cypress]

awesome tyty

[compact knot]

but that literally never happens unless you play odyns like i do

and it doesnt happen on ST

[noble cypress]

yeah ST im good with, been underperforming on forgeweaver

[compact knot]

forge heroic or mythic

cause heroic is fake

mythic you kinda need to pad hard

[noble cypress]

mythic

[compact knot]

yeah you pretty much need bladestorm every set of spawns

then just spam raging blow with WW stacks

make sure enraged

[undone flower]

There is the vers neck tho

[compact knot]

yeah that neck was in my DKs vault

scared

also i didnt need vers i needed haste

all good though

[undone flower]

That 8k vers neck tanked my mastery for 1 full week

[compact knot]

5.853m sim

[warm crag]

Skyreaver in vault tomorrow for all EU players who are reading this !!!!

[compact knot]

no dh boots

🤤

[edgy widget]

ez vault

[undone flower]

Damn you dark spongie

[compact knot]

ritual forge

holy

[edgy widget]

I didn't have time/energy/desire to do anything last week

[compact knot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bKcS9oUj9x7xqVFc8eYRkH

me when im really strong

[wet apex]

Got lucky and ripped a idol from vault, at which point in an AoE pack do you cast it?

[compact knot]

uh

when you use cooldowns probably and the pack is like above 75%

or before cooldown

[wet apex]

But like before or after reck/avatar?

[compact knot]

before avatar

then use avatar after

you wanna combine both of them

[chilly fractal]

you're ahead of me

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qXsWeuJQwkqzmBtmNceED7

[compact knot]

hmm

do you have the weapon buff clicked

you look more geared than me

myth dh boots are too strong

[chilly fractal]

I don't have the buff checked

[compact knot]

ah

thats like -60k dps

should be like 5.880m

[chilly fractal]

we're about to find out

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8Daiij1czo9G9sWDLg7cCp

right on the money

[compact knot]

i know ball

[chilly fractal]

I do have some gains I can get from a Myth antenna and heroic screams tho

[compact knot]

i just equip antenna perma

its the most high roll trinket

i also like charge weave to collect orbs if they spawn in hell

[chilly fractal]

I don't have either

[compact knot]

ahh

its kinda cringe gameplay a bit

[slate dagger]

are there any raid fights you would play cursed stone idol?

[compact knot]

i think you could play it on soulbinder

use the trinket on the adds and it does 3x more damage

then hit a nasty bladestorm after for bigger dps

then use during the big aoe adds

thats the only boss though id use it on

maybe SH

id use it SH/Soulbinder, good on both

[lime perch]

Please ?

[earnest canyon]

Ok Greg, but only because it's you

[narrow kiln]

i just got a mythic cursed stone idol whats the best way to use it in m+

[compact knot]

what does he mean

[warm crag]

make warrior

[summer quail]

make warrior

[lilac osprey]

make warrior

[olive wraith]

In legion remix guys

[muted rain]

Can anyone suggest any good Fury War. player/streamer or YT-er who explains the Rotations,gearing and other stuff?

[young swan]

baze has some good videos

so does oxxy

think madox did guides as well

[calm swallow]

Hey so I have:

Mythic Ticking Sack
Hero Antennae
Hero Arcanocore

For raid I use sak/core, for M+ I use core/antennae

My vault this week gave me a mythic Pacemaker as the only potential upgrade, but I know that's not great for raid considering I have arcano/sack

So my inquiry: How can I sim this to give me the best representation of performance in M+?

[dapper goblet]

cautex too

[warm crag]

cautex for yellow

[earnest canyon]

Spongie for brown

[fading blade]

was there a belt nerf supposed to come today?

[sullen dove]

Next week

[fading blade]

thx!

[sour tundra]

guys we replace the delve belt once we get a mythic one correct?

[charred flint]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2mZQjd8qLt97GfAR?fight=22&type=damage-done]

boys

i got to fly

they let me not do tangles

and flew i did

[bitter palm]

goat

[silver tapir]

Good work!

[nimble kraken]

Vicious contempt or critcal thinking?

I try to avoid pressing bloodthirst in aoe and single targets

[olive wraith]

Slayer?

[charred flint]

im sat for the only boss that drops an upgrade for me in the whole tier

sadge

[earnest canyon]

why?

[charred flint]

cuz they have tryouts not for my spot

[lime perch]

🥰

[slate dagger]

is there a visual for what direction meat cleaver hits?

like is it a circle around you, around the target, a cone?

[sullen dove]

generally circle around you i think

5-8ish yard range maybe

[young swan]

wee i got the araz weapon

[slim coral]

W

[young swan]

i have no fucking clue how to do damage on that boss man

[slim coral]

best mog outsie the hammer from dimmy

[young swan]

it makes no sense to me

think i will just let it be perma bad

maybe i figure it out

why the fuck are flightstones still a thing man

600 flightstones for a weapon upgrade

at 50% cost

dumb as fuck

[sullen dove]

explode

[earnest canyon]

to try and force you out in the world doing quests to make it seem like its actually an MMO still and not some thing where people just do M+ and raid and skip all the story

[sullen dove]

and u dont do damage on that boss unless ur top 8 ranged sit

my first kill was like an 84 or something and its been all downhill since then

[young swan]

sick

[hardy cargo]

farm back ur first set of reck/bs at the very start of boss with a PI then pad in p3

[young swan]

okay well our p3 lasted like 20 seconds and we lust on pull

[sullen dove]

lole

[hardy cargo]

LOL

[young swan]

so im pretty sure its impossible

[hardy cargo]

okay so new plan

find a more dogshit guild

[sullen dove]

i feel like spear is just actually better on that boss

ur not roaring anything

unless the losing 1% crit thing is that significant

[young swan]

@misty edge spit it out already

[sullen dove]

like surely 25% cdam bladestorm onto adds like twice + maybe one on boss dmg amp is better

than whatever the fuck roar does

[young swan]

we also drop balls behind portals so its impossible to do damage early

[sullen dove]

oh nah

thought ur guild was good

[young swan]

actually now that im talking it thru its actually just impossible

[sullen dove]

cant even be bothered to do knocks

[hardy cargo]

oh wtf

[sullen dove]

my shit ass guild does knocks

[hardy cargo]

yeah thats insane mine too

[sullen dove]

like its guarantee not wiping

cuz we def wiping a lot to that

but yea way too cringe

[misty edge]

doing tank add damage

cries cant parse

[sullen dove]

lole

[young swan]

yeah man i just said idk how to do damage

adds die in a bladestorm but bladestorm does zero fuck dam compared to rb reap spam

think its impossible gg!

maybe play thane next week for increased tblast range

get to do damage like sense

[misty edge]

anyway

[young swan]

yeah ur mad

[sullen dove]

im mad

150 fucking pulls to get flins

[young swan]

oh thats rough

[sullen dove]

so much for wanting to get constellations

also no mora to lvl him up anymore past lvl 80 big

[young swan]

i think c0r1 nefer will be pretty free for me

if i get average luck

[undone flower]

You can cross the rift

[young swan]

wait can u

i was told that will probably kill me

[sullen dove]

it like almost 1shots u but not really

[edgy widget]

you can charge/leap through it easily

[undone flower]

Yes it ticks only one time if you literally simple walk through

So if you charge : no ticks

If you simple walk but not direct cross, you don’t get tick either

Similar to consecrate priory paladins

And : it doesn’t one shot you I’m pretty sure

Or the lines of gambit adds before first boss, you don’t get hit if you walk through them, if you didn’t know

[tepid cedar]

fucking hell finalllly

never thought streets of all keys would take 2 fucking days

[balmy shore]

i think araz is BAD

(i also can't do damage on that boss)

[earnest canyon]

That's a long way over the timer

[olive wraith]

Streets is ass

[feral ivy]

guys ... wanna know my luck?? open vault> no wep>craft wep>go to raid>kill forge>get mythic wep

[sullen dove]

yea i mean def just insane to craft a second weapon b4 doing raid

also just horrific waste of crests

[feral ivy]

LEAVE ME ALONE

[hardy cargo]

but did u parse better on the bosses before forge than u previously had

[sullen dove]

no gun to my head will ever make me craft a 2nd weap

[hardy cargo]

if yes then worth 🙂

[feral ivy]

it doesnt drop unless u craft ur 2nd wep thats how it works

[sullen dove]

unless i have 500 gilded

[feral ivy]

nah i was fucking everything up lol

[hardy cargo]

gg...

[feral ivy]

well i got mythic soul hunters boots mythic wep and mythic neck soo i dont mind a lil fuck up

[charred flint]

boots is a whooping 1.5% upgrade for me

cant wait

[feral ivy]

nice fucken job

[undone flower]

Close to be done with the game
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9dPg8aEPEb27maCd4mRhMX

[feral ivy]

what boss are you on? or just reclearing?

[undone flower]

Saladbar

Saw enrage Monday

[feral ivy]

we do our first pull on him today .. just gottta reclear rq

[undone flower]

Im 150 pulls in

[feral ivy]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/h4iLmaeVcGPrEttFhJsocc

i am almost odne as well

[mystic kayak]

Is disc belt still absurdly good

[chilly fractal]

Absurdly? No

Gets nerfed next week too

[undone flower]

In 7 days it will be : find a belt quick

[orchid slate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-gif-14922675818058709477

[upbeat plume]

So I know if you kill a later boss your vault can roll on all the bosses up to taht point which they changed in dragonflight, are soul hunters excluded from that mechanic I assume since their an "extra" boss

[limber oar]

@coarse nest

so close

[undone flower]

You can drop the boots in vault if you kill fractilus yes

[upbeat plume]

nice well heres to hoping for next week lol

[undone flower]

I got the tier shoulders from them with this

[upbeat plume]

well thats proof of concept then, I was out for our guilds kill cause that boss hates melee lol

[tepid cedar]

niceee

im almsot there as wel on the 5.8

[limber oar]

2 crafted rings and 704 shoulders and helm

[tepid cedar]

weapon finaly dropped, i got straight booooosted today

[limber oar]

😢

[tepid cedar]

if atena drops ill hit 5.9 this weeek

[limber oar]

we cant get a helm drop to save our lives

oh i mean

if i sim 0% miss chance antenna i hit that

but im never using that item again

i got sacbrood in vault

antenna cringe item i hate it

[undone flower]

But you will need to kill fractilus every week

It doesn’t open SH like if you killed them / like only doing first 2 will not drop boots

[tepid cedar]

yea sac would be nice as well, antenna good for m+ too though. jsut wish sac wasnt haste but str statted

[regal mountain]

why am i having the toughest time choosing between Signet of the False Accuser and Logic Gate: Omega T-T

[upbeat plume]

I think were locking out after this week so last chance for awhile at least lol

[limber oar]

ok nvm but close

still never using it

[tepid cedar]

lolol

[limber oar]

also no dimmy trinket

🤷

[feral ivy]

are yall reclearing or stopped

[undone flower]

I simmed with 10% on my droptimizer

I still reclear

[limber oar]

gonna stop after we kill NK tonight

[thick fossil]

NK is such a pain to prog on

[undone flower]

We will do the same if we kill NK

I hope we do this week, since next week…. turbo boost + 3%

[charred flint]

damn

i was happy with 5.6

[balmy shore]

you guys are simming for 5.7m? 💀

[undone flower]

We activated the renown buff thingy to have 5.7m the first time

It’s toggled off by default

[charred flint]

i got renown today

feels good

sadge that we dont care about main sat

stat

but we do care about free shit

[undone flower]

I mean the wep enchant renown buff

[limber oar]

we just

1 shot

NK

[balmy shore]

oOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[limber oar]

after a terrible day yday

l00000l

[undone flower]

Ggggggg

[balmy shore]

i have not been checking that

[limber oar]

7/7 1 shot reclear

[undone flower]

I hope I’m gonna be pleased like you today

We had mostly p3 pulls Monday, praying it will be the same

[thick fossil]

NK is gonna be the bane of my guild group.

[undone flower]

I don’t have an amazing comp imo

[limber oar]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/p846a2vKdX9FnbBA?fight=33&type=damage-done

[thick fossil]

We are losing ppl on the first soak

[undone flower]

If it’s the first night : it’s normal

[charred flint]

man we aint liquid

if its not more than 300 pulls on last boss i can dig it

[undone flower]

it took me 3 pulls to survive 20 seconds of the fight

[charred flint]

idk whats the hardest fight i ever raided

probably slg

thank god we didnt try to reclear that

did it once and never again

and somebody brought a shuriken to raid at like 1% so it was super close

[undone flower]

i mostly mythic raided in bfa/nathria and TWW, so i don't have lot of comparison

[charred flint]

Yeah i only do first raids

[undone flower]

unaat or ansurek are the top dogs for me (never killed unaat)

[charred flint]

thats the first patch im actually doing a .3 / 2 version

Ghuun sucked ass

but not as much as i think Dimensius will

because dimensius just feels

unfun

havent stepped into it in mythic yet but the heroic version of that fight is disgusting

asked critcake and he confirmed its disgusting

[thick fossil]

First night of actual attempts. we're close to 30 or so pulls in

[charred flint]

chill you still probably got 150 pulls to go

people will learn

[undone flower]

i'm 160 pulls in, 80%+ p1 wipes

[charred flint]

on denny i lost my shit after main tank asked where they should take boss 310 pulls in
after that night replaced her and we killed it in like 10 real pulls lmao

most of yall do 2 or 3 days?

[undone flower]

i do 3 / no 4 days first week thing

[charred flint]

yikes

my marriage wouldnt last a month if i did more than 2

god knows my wife hates me doing 2 lmao

[undone flower]

my comp for NK, i think 2 aug is mega cringe

[thick fossil]

2 Augs?

[undone flower]

i don't make the calls + i'm not a big brain on aug, my brain is constantly thinking : aug is always a bait

[feral ivy]

just did our 3rd pull on NK .. god damn lol

[thick fossil]

It's a fucking shit show. One person fucks up you all die.

[feral ivy]

why? i havent seen much yet lol

[thick fossil]

When someone dies they do damage to the raid. Some of the mechanics are also insta wipe the raid.

[undone flower]

you need a lot of people to die to make the raid damage lethal to others

3 ppl MC : no insta wipes

[sour tundra]

Joined 4 +10 key groups just now trying to get vaults done, and every single one of them had 1-2 members that were 660 ilvl.... but a 3k io leader baiting people to join. I insta left all of them

whats wrong with people

[feral ivy]

well i already hate this boss. was told that pets will count and beams will go to them as well

[undone flower]

it's not that strict of a bait

it is a 2 options movement 20 players need to learn, it takes time

First is soak : you cross the boss before the beam in front/right of you comes

Third is soak : you dodge front/right and position right away

once you do it enough times, you notice it is just a couple steps and you don't move anymore until claws / minimal adjustements

[compact knot]

ok you cant tell me this spec isnt cringe

same kill time plexus sentinel

15 less slayer strikes 11 less executes

GG

[undone flower]

i thought the same when i did over 6m on fractilus two weeks ago, it happens on both sides

i need to convince myself it is not because i played massacre

[feral ivy]

kk few pulls before raid night end.. cant wait for next few days on this boss lol

i feel imma running around more than doing dmg to the bosss lol

[thick fossil]

My fav, having the beam come from right behind the spirit.

Talk about an oh shit moment.

[summer quail]

do you guys just yolo the beams or bait them?

we bait them and it's so cringe...

[thick fossil]

We're trying to bait them, but ppl are sitting on or near the marker that we are suppose to be baiting them from.

[summer quail]

we yolo'd them last week but other people were struggling. was alot more fun that way tho, i'm not very good at positioning the same way every pull

[feral ivy]

Do yall know if yall going to hard stop re clearing after NK kill and just focus on dem

[thick fossil]

We stopped reclearing this week to focus on NK.

[summer quail]

we almost certainly are i think, unless we're doing a single reclear to get 2nd dim lockout. we do 2 last boss clears each tier to get everyone CE

[undone flower]

https://www.twitch.tv/azurmael/clip/PlainSassyNewtWTRuck-I3DuqVkHhtvNfZ53
if you want to see how i do it, it's not really a lot of moving after all, personnally

[feral ivy]

I feel like we might stop reclearing once we get to a kill area since we can easily kill all the other bosses in 1 night

[feral ivy]

Why is ur beams not going tot he circle lol ours were

[thick fossil]

because ppl are baiting properly

[feral ivy]

When yall were typing beams were yall talking about these or the beams from the portal that go horizontal

[thick fossil]

They're both beams. P1 it's airborne dragons beams. P2 it's the same thing directly from the dragon.

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/gromnak-gif-22401493

[undone flower]

p2 beams are set/fixed you don't bait those

[feral ivy]

Ohhhh

[sullen dove]

infinite stars

[undone flower]

https://www.twitch.tv/azurmael/clip/CourteousSmallScorpionDxAbomb-0lOj-DvWxPg1bEMB
if you want to see if it's third soak movement (yes i get hit but i play warrior +scared health pot)

[cursive flower]

probably im having hand issues, but i just cannot do dmg in m+ as slayer. Thane is so much easier to play, i feel like im losing whirlwind and not doing AoE

(Tbh im not a warrior main so is probably me just not getting the class yet)

[feral ivy]

Who’s the lady covering chat lol

Also this helping a lot

[undone flower]

that's what helped me too, i asked more detailed explanations from people who killed it, they explained me the movement they make with vod, it became really easy

easy for me, but my comrades took more time, it is still hard to be consistent quick for many people

i don't remember who is the lady, it's not my stream

[feral ivy]

Oh lol. Also I FULLY understand now

[hardy wadi]

is there any weakaura for the hoa trinket most people use that shows me if i used it and how long its still active? im only doing the premade weakauras but no idea how to get a trinket inside

[undone flower]

it will still need some pulls, but it's basically : bait, if soak first : move directly foward, if cleave, dodge (from the right) and move foward

On third soak movement, you can have scary beams still, need practice

[compact knot]

oops

i didnt want forgeweaver trinket on for forgeweaver

still got a 99

W

that means the trinket is good

[sullen dove]

why is my chungus ass droptimizer saying arcanocore 30k better than antenna

[compact knot]

damn i had like a 6.8-6.7m dps pull on frac

then WIPE

[chilly plume]

dude same its #2 simming trinket and i dont buy it for even a second

[humble lark]

guys i got a vault with both idol and antenna myhtic. which of the two would be better?

[sullen dove]

antenna more multi purpose

but can get both from dinar in like 3 weeks

[compact knot]

then a pull where my screams procced 10 times in 1 minute

holy

[sullen dove]

so not a big deal

but if u raid primarily then antenna prolly

[young swan]

its next week man

[sullen dove]

erm no

[undone flower]

dinar is 21st

[humble lark]

i mainly do keys on my warrior. tho prob wont be able to buy antenna as i only do 2 bosses in raid pugs

[signal steeple]

Are we still using thane for keys?

[sonic coyote]

never 2h weapon

[young swan]

oh wow thats cringe

i thought 21st was just crest uncap and 7th was extra track + dinar

[sullen dove]

yea i mean loom presumably becomes puggable when everyones 730

[signal steeple]

Would take shoulders for catalyst personally

[sonic coyote]

netherprism any good ?

[humble lark]

true

[young swan]

very mid

[sullen dove]

but if worried about it then antenna still good for m+

[undone flower]

i think i take the ring for free crest up

[sullen dove]

and just dinar idol

[young swan]

unless if you want to experiment pre-antenna/whatever, dont take it

[sonic coyote]

am siming atm but shoulderss probly it

[signal steeple]

Arcanocore is probably worth it unless you have better

Are we still using thane for keys?

[sullen dove]

you can if u like playstyle

[young swan]

most people are just playing slayer all the time

[sullen dove]

slayer usually just better

[young swan]

but u can play thane if u want

[signal steeple]

I like thane's playstyle but if slayer is significantly better I'll do slayer

Like at least 10% better

[young swan]

its significantly better in st but overall will be similar

[signal steeple]

Gotcha

[young swan]

most people prefer slayer for the "cds all the time" factor

its just insanely consistent

thane is much more rng

[quiet breach]

I don't think slayer is 10% better than thane

in m+

so if u really love thane go for it

[modest condor]

i think it is

[signal steeple]

Thanks

[modest condor]

not 10% better overall

[quiet breach]

like 10% theoretically

[modest condor]

but the fact that it does the same overall while being like 15% better on st easily makes it 10% better imo

[quiet breach]

I know what u mean

if it's actually a whole 15% better in ST then ye

I didn't know the ST gap was that big

[signal steeple]

We already have a havoc for big ST

[modest condor]

st gap is gigantic

[quiet breach]

colossus is better at AOE than anything in fury tho

[compact knot]

then the kill its procs 12 times

LIT

[hybrid yew]

how do you sim with the delvers belt on raidbots?

[radiant perch]

no weapon still.. but hey the antena atleast shows up 🙂 looks like im finally crafting a weap this week 😄

[signal steeple]

Yes but I already have all 13s timed as arms and want to play fury now

I know the build you're referring to and it got me to 3000

[quiet breach]

is that hero track antenna? mine was 714 myth track but idk if it shows different depending on vault

[undone flower]

raid row ilvl is scaled on highest boss killed

[radiant perch]

its myth 🙂

im glad it came with this shit options in other slots 😄

for me atleast, already have myth shoulders and chest

[woven valley]

I got 3 bis items tonight feels good

[willow cradle]

Early Nexus King prog is so fucking funny

So many guildies are getting Mced

[quiet breach]

if u die u get mced

in p1

[willow cradle]

yeah

Im having fun doing this

[undone flower]

druids can cyclone mc people, similiar to rik in S2

[radiant perch]

im matter of saving crests for turboboost.. would you in my place hold weapon craft? im still runing 2x 710... but I can craft 720 this week

[dull coral]

This is my gear atm, and i got hero track interloper boots and mythic shoulders in vault which do i take?

[limber oar]

dimmy throws hands

[willow cradle]

That's mostly a sim angle

[quaint stag]

Was there meant to be a catalyst charge this week?

[undone flower]

in saving crest matter, no you wouldn't hold weapon craft

for gold matter, you would

[lost edge]

hey, i'm having trouble choosing a trinket, the sim shows me that it would be best to choose incoroporeal warpclaw, but i can't find any warrior that uses it, instead they use cursed stone idol.

and that's what i'm using now for m+ and raid

is warpclaw really better than stone idol?

[young swan]

stone idol for m+ and htats kind of it

warpclaw just sucks overall

[hot wasp]

i just started playing fury should i just craft 2x 720 wep at this point of season

[lost edge]

yea i just guess its better for cds, thank you for help

[junior gale]

Offhand has much lower value than MH

[hot wasp]

thanks i guess ill just sim it

[dull coral]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gCDPy4vVFS2xVNpLSFtxwY can someone help me understand the simming

[stoic star]

This is spark week right?

not catalyst

[undone flower]

you would need to sim craft the second weapon vs 2 crafts on other slots

[broken trellis]

Curious, why does everyone in logs use arcanocore? Sims both for patchwerk and heavy mover place other trikets higher

[young swan]

what do you need help understanding

[hot wasp]

yeah thanks

[dull coral]

is the shoes a better upgrade than the shoulders?

[broken trellis]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/r6TCmfJQJGLqvx9xL7ktue

[stoic star]

Its the best ST trinket we can get.

[junior gale]

your gonna get more out of 2 more 720 crafts than an Offhand craft

100%

[young swan]

boots

[broken trellis]

What makes it so good that it disagrees with the sims?

[young swan]

well

screams exists

[junior gale]

Arcanocore def not the best one

[stoic star]

Youd have to have a Myth Scream

I dont think Heroic Scream is better than Myth Arcanocore.

[young swan]

even heroic is prob better or close to better

[stoic star]

I just simmed it today because both are in my vault but it could be just for my toon specifically idk

[signal steeple]

720 weapon is the second biggest upgrade after 4-piece, so no. Unless you need to save the gold, in which case yes

[young swan]

in any case ur right for the most part

[stoic star]

This my vault

[broken trellis]

So if sims are showing that sac + antenna are better than arcanocore for say Araz, should I trust that?

[sullen dove]

screams better if you have the cheese touch and make it proc more

(on mythic bosses only usually)

[stoic star]

still havnet taken it because im waiting to clear first 2 mythic and heroic dimensius first since i want those tertiary stat myth pants

[sullen dove]

can just get the pants den

can always dinar trinkets cant dinar terts

ez

[stoic star]

Yeah I was thinking the same thing.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iszgHFgXZQqMAx9TSiy7u3

that was my sim this morning before doing any upgrades from farming crests

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wNmRNW2WA1qy5VrpHfaAqE

still wants me to take arcanocore > scream

[serene socket]

arcanocore sims higher for me in general as well.

[modest condor]

wow that's interesting

oh wait

it's 710 screams vs 723 arcano

yeah that makes sense

[stoic star]

Yeah thats what I was saying earlier Silmarilen

that I was pretty certain Myth Arcanocore is going to be better than Scream on Heroic ❤️

[compact knot]

this is better

[sullen dove]

ur entire raid die on forgeweaver or wha