fury

[modest condor]

my personal guideline is if there are mobs with 150mil hp or more then it's safe to bs

just need to prio sd a bit more

[hard widget]

Just send always really unless pack is almost dead

U dont need to have cd's at the start of the pull

[modest condor]

you need bs tho

[hard widget]

Preferably yes

[undone flower]

It is around 20 sec yes, but when you are used to play + you can change your prio to farm more cdr, and you add the gathering of the next as a time you hold bs

[hard widget]

Or prio bt

To get overwhelmed on targets

[modest condor]

you're losing so much damage by not having bs on pull

stacking overwhelmed through bt is so bad

[hard widget]

True

But ull have bs super fast

[modest condor]

like you're just back to doing pre-bugfix damage

[hard widget]

so if u just only make sure u have bs

Ur chilling

[modest condor]

yeah

[cobalt relic]

all gg

[undone flower]

If you don’t have bs at the end of the gathering = SAD

[hard widget]

Sil

Coach me

[undone flower]

Only if you give him a 50€ steam card, so many ppl want to give us one here

[hard widget]

[undone flower]

I did 5 times my ara Kara 15

I alt f4 the 5th

1 Guy died on the first pull (we were big chilling), he ask reset? It made me so mad

[iron portal]

Lol

Fair

That is my story with Floodgate minus rage quit

[undone flower]

The first time I quit a key this season : my own resil key

[wind citrus]

Do we have anything to reduce the CD of avatar?

[iron portal]

No

[deep gust]

is roblox gooder than wow?

my little brother says it is

[iron portal]

Both are money pitfalls

[deep gust]

why

[iron portal]

But roblox has more issues with pedos than wow prob

[undone flower]

Your bro is a master gooner

[deep gust]

u are right

but blizzard still cares about us

blizzard loves us

right?

[undone flower]

They are a multi dollar company after all

And we have multiple dollars

[deep gust]

they gifted me wow shadowlands for free when war started

in ukraine

blizzard loves me

and also sub was free for us

but they should add GMs like they are active on turtle wow

[chilly tulip]

got this wrist from the weekly cache should i still craft a wrist or go for a ring or neck cuz they are shit what i have now?

[deep gust]

is void elf animations good for warrior?

[chilly tulip]

im night elf ;p

[deep gust]

oh

is it good?

maybe i will switch from gnome to night elf later

[wind citrus]

So after weapon and wrist what’s the third crafted item u guys go? Neck, ring, or belt?

[fading sky]

Yes they are ok

[storm rune]

Roblox reminds me of newgrounds back in the day, the games aren't well made but there's a simplistic nostalgic charm

[undone flower]

What kind of GMs are on turtle wow ?

[deep gust]

When u open ticket they answer within 2 minutes. no matter what is the issue.

Also once i saw that GM spawned in front of multiboxer and warned him that it wasnt allowed in pvp and bonked him

[storm rune]

The issue is, the more you pay GM's, the less the COs make

An understandable issue

[deep gust]

ye retail playerbase is huge and will cost lots of money

[lusty jungle]

simply can't have it that way

[undone flower]

And they are doing fine tbf, tickets requiring a GM are not that long

Yes it can take hours

[storm rune]

Interesting take

[undone flower]

I did a ticket once this expansion requiring a GM it took 30min to have the blue chat appear

It was the bug in the rookery where you char can be stuck and spam dc when you log into it

[cobalt relic]

ggwp

[unreal onyx]

can't even get invited as meta spec

[undone flower]

?

[plush zephyr]

I need to start logging how many fury’s I’ve been inviting

[cobalt relic]

ALL GG

DEPRESSION DWELLS INSIDE OF ME

IS IT OVER

OR IS THIS THE BEGINNING

I CAN'T TELL

GG OR BG

WP OR BP

[plush zephyr]

I do my part. I even invited an arms last night.

[undone flower]

Gambling.

[cobalt relic]

+20 OR + 1

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-gif-27647963

[undone flower]

Almost no warrior tags in my keys

Dps warriors*

[cobalt relic]

LIE

STOP SANDBAGGING

SPREAD TRUTH OR NOTHING!!

[undone flower]

When I tank they come

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/midnight-the-cat-stopped-working-midnight-the-cat-cat-cat-meme-funny-cat-gif-81113296414293415

[plush zephyr]

it’s true

I only apply to prots and brews

[quiet breach]

find a 5 man bro

[cobalt relic]

I TRY

[plush zephyr]

If I’m not rubbing my own shit which is always

[cobalt relic]

IT NO WORKIE

[undone flower]

#fury message

[cobalt relic]

NO GUY FIND ME

[plush zephyr]

Running** hahahaha

[cobalt relic]

LIFE OVER

[undone flower]

I only apply to prot warriors, bc im EU, too scared to be mogged by Loboz if I tag with dps warriors

I would question so many things if he beats me

[cobalt relic]

PAIN MISERY AGONY

MY MENTAL FORTITUDE

...

HOW...MUCH LONGER,,?

[plush zephyr]

looool I last time I did that I had a wild Deswind appear

[undone flower]

Show us your key in your bag

[runic violet]

I'm pushing +13s... but too lazy

[undone flower]

You are a scammer

[cobalt relic]

LIAR

[undone flower]

Do you have a 19 timed ?

[cobalt relic]

NO

NO I DO NOT

HAPPYSLAYER

I AM TRYING BUT I FAIL

[undone flower]

Scam

[cobalt relic]

LIFE FULL OF FAILURES WE GOTTA APPRECIATE THE WINS

WE AIN'T GETTING W's

[undone flower]

So what do you actually appreciate ?

[cobalt relic]

STOP DEEPDIVING

HEL:P ME OR LEAVE ME

[undone flower]

Nah I don’t like m+ that much

Rio hell caught me up, I get pissed off very quick currently from what I witness the rare time I try to push

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-roaring-gif-26718409

wtf do ppl even check these

[eternal sundial]

no

just keystone score shows legit the same thing

[undone flower]

You have to change points to damage to see the real logs, I use the points page to know how many keys I did

[cobalt relic]

wtf dmg same

[undone flower]

So now you can click on a dungeon and see your logs

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/traewockhardt-sad-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-16591014784735052511

[undone flower]

I mean, you are at the pug wall key lvl, you didn’t expect you could reach it ?

[dense elbow]

Silence hit his wall already? smh

thought he was gonna go to +22 with PuGs

[undone flower]

Idk if 19s are indeed the wall, where teams are at ?

They are at 19-20s

[dense elbow]

18-19 is prob the PuG range for this week, 19, maybe 19-20 next week. Depending. Teams are around the 19-20 mark atm

To be fair, we talking the top 0.1% here dont think the avg PuG player should expect to be in said range

[undone flower]

Then turbo boost

[dense elbow]

Swooooooosh to 30

[undone flower]

I bet on 23

[dense elbow]

After Turbo full gear?

[undone flower]

Yes

[dense elbow]

23 sounds kinda low

We aint maxed, and already hammering at 21

Prob 22 next week

[undone flower]

A single key is 21

[dense elbow]

maybe

They hammered down multiple no?

[undone flower]

Yeah maybe it is too low bc there is no meta yet too

[dense elbow]

Yeye, Gambit and EDA is down atm, streets soonTM

[undone flower]

So I say 24-25

[dense elbow]

Hm, I stand by closer to 30

[undone flower]

30 are you insane

[dense elbow]

The powerspike will be huge with turbo, more so than last time - if we get to buy all the stuff

[undone flower]

But +30 mobs have more than twice the hp and damage than a 20

[dense elbow]

Dont forget, I forsee a whole set of dung nerfs

as always

Playerpower up, Dung diff down

Then ofc, actual perfected strats and a polished comp setup coming into place

[undone flower]

30 is still a huge diff

[dense elbow]

It is indeed huge

[modest condor]

bro

do you know what turbo boost gives?

6 ilvls and a couple of chase items

[undone flower]

159% more dmg and hp than a +20

[modest condor]

at most you're getting 1 keylevel

[dense elbow]

So ya think the cap will be, 25 ish as well?

[modest condor]

no

23, maybe 24 on the easiest dungeons

[dense elbow]

that grim, eh?

[undone flower]

No really, each key lvl at this point are night and day diff dungeon

[modest condor]

but 24 i give a very small chance

most likely 23 max

[dense elbow]

We shall see if blizz announces dung nerfs or not, it will be a long season

[undone flower]

You gotta imagine a key lvl everything is 10% harder than what you previously did

Gotta be 10% faster

[dense elbow]

What was last seasons jump?

[undone flower]

You had more than turbo boost

[dense elbow]

Thinking of the belt?

[undone flower]

Delve belt + visions

[modest condor]

highest timed right now is a 21 with 1 minute left, i can see that becoming a 22 with maxed pre-turbo boost gear, add 1 level from turbo boost

[dense elbow]

Fair, we did get 2% from the helm

[modest condor]

then if they find enough minmaxy shit i could see it becoming a 24

but unless some giga meta altering change happens i do not see any 25s timed

[undone flower]

The small doubt I have : they don’t have cleared the raid yet, idk how strong pre boost they currently can be if you add saladbar + dimmy on yoda

[dense elbow]

I am still curious to see what blizz do when most ppl hit their walls, and get stuck, and the participation drops

[olive wraith]

Buff fury of course

[dense elbow]

That is another key level right there

Do they even bring fury atm?

[modest condor]

big true

just 1 group needs to pick up farover's comp but with a hunter instead of a rogue

and we would be seeing 25s

[dense elbow]

Farover carrying the weight of Fury on his broad shoulders, aight

Bring all the best fury warriors into one team

and we will see 30

trust

Fun little question, who would those 3 Fury Warriors be?

[undone flower]

Farover, Loboz and ?

[dense elbow]

Stonkmon

[olive wraith]

[undone flower]

Nah John Blizzard.

[dense elbow]

Notadev, is a runnerupper

[olive wraith]

Are rogues really falling off?

[modest condor]

compared to hunters yeah

[dense elbow]

Hard and fast, weirdly enough

[olive wraith]

Ive seen some solid sub

I guess Bm is just too big

[fading sky]

Hunter buff was real

[olive wraith]

What’s the third? Feral

[dense elbow]

It was very needed

[olive wraith]

Or just say fuck mystic touch and bring fdk

[fading sky]

🤣

[dense elbow]

Man, I still remember seeing the hunter buffs come, and was just like "???"

Guess hunter is bad in raid?

[olive wraith]

Let’s aura buff Bm instead of buffing ranger

[fading sky]

Dno man

[olive wraith]

[undone flower]

I believe more in a melee comp over a phys comp tbf

[olive wraith]

Ranger is their raid spec right?

[dense elbow]

Next they gonna buff warlocks

[olive wraith]

So no brew?

Ppal looking pretty solid

[dense elbow]

We gonna end up with VDH, Rdruid, Mage, SP and Aug... just you wait and see

[undone flower]

Havoc fdk fury kinda grinds my gear idk why

[dense elbow]

Cause the keys are super smooth probs

Fury deals flat, HDH funnels and Frost bursts

just a good effect

[olive wraith]

Ya havoc is crazy

[undone flower]

And ppal tank + rsham, it feels so right when I play

[olive wraith]

Crit is almost there

[dense elbow]

I am honestly a huge fan of monk, when piloted by a great player

[olive wraith]

Just need tank/qrva swap roles

[final birch]

Balance this tier is extremely solid

[dense elbow]

Yuckie

stinky

[undone flower]

I used to be a brew guy

[dense elbow]

Chicken lover

[final birch]

So their comp works for almost capped content

[undone flower]

Boomie enjoyer detected

[dense elbow]

Then you became DPS, cause brew became good and you couldnt keep up

ya know I speak the truth

[final birch]

Yes i prefer ranged as well both from tank standpoint and a dps perspective

But u can’t ignore how good some melee specs are

[dense elbow]

As a tank, I love Fury, I can pull whatever

its fine

[undone flower]

But it’s true, balance seems fine, similar to season 2 tanks

[drifting token]

I have a soft spot for blood dks I'm hoping they can shine in midnight

[final birch]

Playing with melee is objectively worse since you have to think about boss/mob positioning

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-cute-sweet-love-hug-gif-796916911135792694

[drifting token]

gosh thank you

[undone flower]

You need it 💜

[dense elbow]

BDK just needs the DS nerfs reverted, and give them a Will buff to stop the 1shots

and they golden

Will be broken AF in raid tho

[undone flower]

Delete boneshield charge spenders

[dense elbow]

(and if they can fix purg being popped randomly at full health, that would be great)

[olive wraith]

Maybe they need a resource spender that grants a %hp shield that mitigates damage. Call it forget ouchy

[undone flower]

Another bet : when Midnight ptr ?

[devout totem]

tomorow™

[dense elbow]

A bit after xmas?

[drifting token]

At midnight

[dense elbow]

as there are 6 months to wait after that

[olive wraith]

aren’t people expecting spring

[drifting token]

I'd be shocked if anything pops up before Feb

[undone flower]

I bet it is announced close after turbo boost

For alpha/beta shenanigans

[dense elbow]

They dont want to spread ppl from legion tho?

As they made that shit timegated and shitz

[undone flower]

No one do ptr tho

[dense elbow]

Fair, but PTR in this context, we mean beta no?

[undone flower]

Only content creators who will not play remix that much really plays ptr

[undone flower]

Yes beta

[drifting token]

Did you see for remix they expect that you need to do a +63 key to reach the max ilvl reward lmfao

[dense elbow]

I will play the beta, send reports on bugs that aint fixed

Also, ask for OF buffs

Get big buff, be happy, get nerfed, be content, get more nerfs on launch, be sad

The Funky experience

[undone flower]

I will sandbag by not playing that much of ptr

[dense elbow]

I will by playing the PTR

Well, beta

Someone gotta represent the avg gamer, after all

[devout totem]

Fury life cycle during Nerubar week 1 & 2

[deep gust]

მწოველებო მე ვარ საუკეთესო გნომი ვარიორი

[pine vigil]

new to 4 set looks good?

[unreal onyx]

can someone link me the insta-decline for ret paladin WA?

[drifting token]

Nothing looks wrong per se but not enough info to know if you're doing good

[pine vigil]

let me send a log

nvm it got deleted

here failed a +14 gambit https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HYbPFjLxcwaKzXNm?fight=last&type=damage-done pls help me understand what i miss 😄

why does this show i dont have a item like this?

[olive wraith]

I think reap is typically higher in gambit

[dense elbow]

Murlocks do pad em reap numbers up, up and up

[devout apex]

is dungeon slice valid sim for fury?

or should i do 5tar 1.5min

[marble swift]

guys im broke what gives fastest valorstones

[olive wraith]

Do a billion keys

Echos are actually fast and easy

[olive wraith]

I just st sim

[marsh idol]

how much does pre-stacking a bladestorm matter for keys?

[warm crag]

not really much

[keen dove]

max is +40

[olive wraith]

It’s only a tiny increase for like the first pull of the key. Not gonna be big at all

[lapis rose]

can someone answering why he doesnt loading

[olive wraith]

Are you playing fury

[lapis rose]

yes

[olive wraith]

For one. That’s an arms wa

[lapis rose]

but i saw her on wowhead, im just newbee and watching what should i have

[olive wraith]

Get the fury one instead

[serene socket]

use this -> https://wago.io/r8u4tHLRQ

[olive wraith]

#1237307732705415228 message

Oh there you go

[lapis rose]

oh ty guys

what u guys recommend watching for learning?

[olive wraith]

I recommend the wowhead guide. But if you absolutely need a video format

[tepid cedar]

17 ara... mann if i ever got a 723 weapon this wouldent be even close. and thats with 3 deathson my part lolol

[olive wraith]

Oxxyog, Madox, critcake all have videos

[pine vigil]

took me 1 day

[lean prism]

Radiant echo x5 takes five mines each stack and is like 400 valor stones per

[chilly fractal]

730 weapon in a few weeks too

You’ll get one

[tepid cedar]

bro

i cant even get a 723

730 is a myth

lol

hows ur key going

[warm wharf]

730 is turbo boost myth

[tribal niche]

Is it optimal craft a belt?

[tepid cedar]

belt wrist neck rings are basically ur only options

helm

[tender forge]

what do you guys use for addons in M+ such as DBM alternatives, i feel like DBM doesnt work well for me anymore

[olive wraith]

It should

[lapis rose]

guys someone know why i dontt have skip reshi? i take it on main

[plush zephyr]

BigWigs? @tender forge

[olive wraith]

People do use bigwigs as am alternative though

[olive wraith]

Just go to the npc. He’ll give you one

[lapis rose]

im on him but i dont have

[olive wraith]

Wth did you do

[tender forge]

never used big wigs before , ill give it a go

[olive wraith]

Gg no cape for you

[earnest canyon]

its like a less in your face dbm....I prefer dbm cos im dumbo

[tender forge]

im also big dumbo

[plush zephyr]

I mean. You can just run both. Or. Hear me out. Read above the NPCs head what it’s doing.

[tender forge]

i dont read good

[plush zephyr]

Plater with Jundies Profile (I scaled it bigger) makes it easier

[chilly tulip]

what do i craft when i hjave already this bracers i have 2 crafts left

[tender forge]

ohhh , ive been running quazis profile

[plush zephyr]

Jundies da best.

DBM and big wigs hindered me as a player

And I didn’t even know it

[chilly tulip]

is it worth to craft 2 weapons or not?

[plush zephyr]

Hmmmm

[olive wraith]

Do you mythic raid or do keys more

[plush zephyr]

Probably not? I’m assuming you’re asking because you’re leveling a warr. Probably better off crafting main hand, and then round out the rest of your gear and get a champ/hero off hand. Likely 2 crafted armor pieces will be a bigger overall upgrade in terms of overall. But, idk. Top gear - sim.

[plush zephyr]

Thanes not dead anymore?

[olive wraith]

[plush zephyr]

[olive wraith]

There’s a sleeper tech that uh. Quadruples your damage

It’s totally better

[plush zephyr]

OF is the sleeper tech cmon

[olive wraith]

Sadly no

Thane can’t path into of

[plush zephyr]

I’m gonna play thane tonight

[olive wraith]

See. Not dead

[plush zephyr]

just bored of

[low crane]

what to sim for aoe/m+?

[plush zephyr]

I personally like taking a combination of 1t 5min, patchwork and 5t 5min

[fleet parrot]

Follower dungeons give 15 per boss, can tear through dawnbreaker in like 7 minutes

[plush zephyr]

What

Nah do the echo shit

[open prairie]

use the free runed to craft embellished bracers

also karesh wqs give like 100 valorstones

idk im capped perma

[earnest shuttle]

just got this from soulbinder, insta upgrade+insta gem

it came with a socket 🙂

[open prairie]

Not an instant send crest item unless you had no other good slots

but gz

[earnest shuttle]

I already upgraded all my mythic pieces to 723

the ones I already have

[open prairie]

Oh, i still have 3 more

that i need crests for

[coral maple]

anyone here use aui know if the slayer execute condition can replace the WA that is recommended?

[runic violet]

those of you pushing +15 and higher... what are your stats like

[coarse nest]

mostly haste/mastery

but you gotta sim

[runic violet]

wondering Im too haste/mastery focused

[coarse nest]

this is mine in M+ build (flask off)

[modest condor]

i have no clue i just equip what my top gear sim says

[coarse nest]

but again

you have to sim your own specific gear that you have in your bags

[chilly tulip]

also when i already have haste mastery wrist hero?

[open prairie]

i mean what else are you gonna embellish

[runic violet]

nice vers

[coarse nest]

yeah thats what simmed the highest for my specific gear in my bags

😄

[thorny thorn]

Is there a way to see what percentage of your antenna orbs you picked up during a key/raid?

[chilly tulip]

but not just 2 wweaps craft?

[open prairie]

offhand sucks

[chilly tulip]

aah\

[open prairie]

2nd wep is crest free anyway

[chilly tulip]

so bracers and what more should i craft

[open prairie]

idk not mandatory

[sullen dove]

ring/neck maybe

belt if feeling zesty

[open prairie]

can make jeweley

[olive wraith]

I’ve got hella vers too

[feral notch]

I been out of the loop, when did everyone go Slayer mythic+ ?

[warm crag]

when they randomly made 4p work with ww cleaved rbs

[covert coyote]

my sims have be gunning for vers now, it's nice

[feral notch]

So when it says a few RBs after a BS to build up for rampage, are you still RBing even if rage capped? Or do you clear with ramp and then RB?

[covert coyote]

yes even if rage capped, go till no charges left or enrage falls in ST, in aoe go until the possible reap proc wouldn't go off before enrage falls off

[feral notch]

Ty

[smoky vale]

when will they revert unhinged cleave

[olive wraith]

In midnight

But it’ll cast slam instead

[young swan]

they wont

[frank dawn]

They put the unhinged cleave change in patch notes. It would literally have to cure cancer for them to walk it back once they do that

[smoky vale]

i miss showing belly

[chilly tulip]

Worth to craft a belt?

[desert storm]

kill 3rd boss in pug and craft smth else

[olive wraith]

If that’s what sims highest for you

[spare steppe]

Helm sims highest for me, can’t get a mythic helm to save my life

[olive wraith]

It do be happens

Wild to tell someone “just loot a mythic piece”

[spare steppe]

I usually hold it for a week or two and see if luck strikes tbh

[warm crag]

helmet has to be the most cringe craft tho cause do u socket it

[warm crag]

how do i kill 3rd boss in a pug after locking my save

[olive wraith]

Vault sockets can’t go on crafted?

[warm crag]

What do you think i socket my wrist every season with

[olive wraith]

I don’t understand helm issue then

[warm crag]

Dont wanna Socket smth non permanent

[toxic jewel]

is it true fury is getting 3% nerf or am i being trolled

[olive wraith]

3% wouldn’t even be big. But there hasn’t been blue notes

[wind citrus]

do i do mythic plus build for soul binder?

[toxic jewel]

bro i was trolled

that was 2024

[chilly fractal]

Imagine... Odyn's Fury getting a 15% Nerf in it's current state

[dense elbow]

I will stab you 🗡️

[clever pawn]

I just entered the warrior disccord for the first time and this is what I see!! Should I even ask a question lol

[dense elbow]

Welcome, all you need to know is: Buff Odyn's Fury

Glad to have ya

[clever pawn]

thank you 😄

I actually untalented Odyn's fury 🙁

[odd light]

how bad is it to play two 1h

[winter shoal]

like -10% or so

and you lose stamina

you can sim your particular weapons and talents to see how significant the difference is

[crystal veldt]

It’s just the traditional warrior greeting, stabbing each other

[clever pawn]

Thats a very good point! let me throw some plates around and start a fight while im here

[dense elbow]

Lost another one

[clever pawn]

dont blame me, blame simcraft that showed me losing dps with it 🙁

[dense elbow]

It always been a DPS loss, you play it on principle

[clever pawn]

ill use it during legion remix

[dense elbow]

It's about sending a message

[clever pawn]

What message is that?

[dense elbow]

OF is an important part of the warrior kit and is indeed a 'powerful signature ability'.

[solar zephyr]

Do you guys use bloodthirst on slayer m+?

[olive wraith]

Rarely

[solar zephyr]

or only as a filler

I legit removed it from my bars because my brain still thinks that I need to use bloodthirst to trigger reap

[clever pawn]

Thats a message we should send to blizz

[olive wraith]

I mean you should keep it on your bars

[dense elbow]

Put it back, ya need it if ya got a pull where you don't have storm to start the ramp, or you got no other GCD to press

[olive wraith]

Or a quick heal while ER is active

[solar zephyr]

Yea true…

[dense elbow]

Healing? Sounds like a healer issue

[olive wraith]

I’d like to live thanks

[solar zephyr]

Thats not the true warriors way!

[safe pecan]

What's everyone crafting as their 3rd 720 craft this week? I have a weapon, and bracer for my first 2

[olive wraith]

I did belt

[solar zephyr]

Im thinkin to do belt now

[olive wraith]

Rings are a popular choice

[storm birch]

This is my last week of 30 ms

90+ ms here I come

[olive wraith]

Join the club

[storm birch]

Who knows maybe it’ll make me better

[dense elbow]

it is over, with that MS, you might as well just use 1button rotation

[storm birch]

[solar zephyr]

I mean with 90ms you have an excuse if you dont pop meters

[storm birch]

I already just press one button

[olive wraith]

[solar zephyr]

And brag about target lock

[storm birch]

Finally I can have an excuse 🙌

[olive wraith]

Target cap? We don’t have that

[solar zephyr]

What even is target cap

[storm birch]

Once I see what 17 I get out of vault I’m spamming my own key

Before my move is finalized

If I get a streets out of vault ima flip

[olive wraith]

Ok flood then

[dense elbow]

Ara~ Ara~~

[storm birch]

Well streets is the only one I timed so I’ll take it

Bonus points for priory since it’s my last for resil 16

[safe pecan]

yeah, that's why i'm on the fence. I think i'm going to go belt. more Strength vs just secondary's

[olive wraith]

Do you raid

Mythic

[safe pecan]

just heroic

and m+

[olive wraith]

Sim what’s better

Did you have jastors from last season

[safe pecan]

yeah

[olive wraith]

And disc belt?

[safe pecan]

yep

[olive wraith]

Ngl ring would probably be bigger

[solar zephyr]

Ring for the stats would probably sim better then a crafted belt

Yes no?

[olive wraith]

It’s a sim question

[elder granite]

lost boots to a damn ret pally

kms

[potent citrus]

https://i.hep.gg/iCeih3MWQ

which ones best for fury to do lol

[ocean hill]

Is myth secret technique worth taking from vault? Or just take socket and waiting for antenna?

[sudden tusk]

short term teq is decent

long term socky

[elder granite]

lost another pair of boots to a 300 io ret pal gonna kms twice

[cunning condor]

i got this neck

from chest

is this our bis?

[crude mica]

Yes

[olive wraith]

All of them

[rare wasp]

Is heroic leap bugged? I press it and no target circle comes up, cant do nothin with it

[silk wharf]

Try pressing all your modifier keys (shift/ctrl/alt) and try again.

In direct answer to the question, as far as I know nothing about leap is bugged atm.

[chilly fractal]

yea I just used Heroic Leap

[winter stump]

yo why tf is dragon roar so ass? do we even fking press that button ever?

[modest condor]

because everything else has been buffed by like 80% or something and roar hasnt

and yes

[upbeat plume]

as silmarilen said, they buffed the ever loving crap out of our base rotationaly abilities, so things like roar, spear, and to a lesser extent odyns fury kept falling further and further behind

[sudden tusk]

roars capstone actually got nerfed 30% too lmao

[hushed gust]

just wanna celebrate progress so far. PUGing this season isn't nearly as rough as last, but patience is still a virtue with these queues. a lotta room for error in some of these dungeons.

[winter stump]

nice! keep it up bro c:

[storm birch]

Good stuff keep up the grind 🫡

[silver tapir]

good work! lets keep going with these till we get to 20s. warr hype

[violet condor]

is anyone else not getting there resilient achievement?

have all 16s done i check achievement but it says priory isnt a 16 even tho it is

[rocky sequoia]

do you guys like to take the talents that buff your bloodthirst even if you never cast it?

like cold steel hot blood

[hushed gust]

i reinvested all of that into getting Odyn's Fury, but there is a build on WoWhead's fury page that can show you where to put them if you don't want Odyn's Fury.

[drowsy heron]

Am i winning dad?

[cunning condor]

i'm using this

feels better

have enough versa

[crude mica]

Oh I don't doubt I was tempted to just answer them to sim but it is the bis neck on the wowhead/icy veins guide

I want that neck lol

[cunning condor]

yeah but dunno

this neck sims higher

are these stats ok?

[brazen island]

does rampage have to go off when we're already enraged or does rampage benefit off enrage as soon as we cast

[upbeat plume]

rampage benefits from its own enrage

often but not always an ability that applies a self buff benefits from that buff

[brazen island]

ok so its cool if rampage goes off after enrage wears off

[upbeat plume]

yes

[olive wraith]

If you simmed to get there then they look fine

[deep gust]

finally im back

I was muted for no reason yesterday

[bitter palm]

[deep gust]

I have the question.

how do i get inside undermine for M+ dungeon cuz i have key without doing campaign?

[woven valley]

No reason you say?

[deep gust]

?

[deep gust]

yes

[olive wraith]

There’s no m+ in undermine

[hollow leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1407179540182339594/Statn.gif

[stoic echo]

does rampage actually get the enrage boost even if you're not enraged?

cause it technically enrages first?

[somber elk]

Yes

[storm rune]

It's because Archi hates gnomes

[deep gust]

WHY U LIE?

I have key

operation: floodgate +2

[storm rune]

yeah that's not in undermine

[grim star]

that is ringing deeps lol

[deep gust]

ou shit

thank

[grim star]

😂

[olive wraith]

Pro tip. You can go into dungeon guide and there’s a button to view it on the map

Hopefully that helps you in the future

[pine vigil]

guys in aoe should i spam rampage when i have enough rage or should i just max it to 130 and then rampage? guide says 115> but sometimes i am nearly going out of enrage so i am just spamming it

[bitter palm]

raging blow > rampage

u rampage for enrage

with slayer 4p

as thane u bt > rampage

and rampage for enrage

wiht 4p

[arctic tendon]

any slayers here that can drop their rotation with openers? just switched over from thane 🙂

[pine vigil]

so i should wait for 1 stack of whirlwind and end of enrage?

to rampage?

btw why icyveins shows defender's armor kit? instead of armor stamina should be better no?

[bitter palm]

armor gives damage cause of armored to the teeth

[pine vigil]

oh shi

[bitter palm]

ww should be up for all spells

[pine vigil]

yeah need to get used to that ngl sometimes i miss 1-2 spells without ww

[olive wraith]

Read through wowhead

[coarse laurel]

Hi, in massive aoe and with 4pc equipped, do we spam raging blow to get reap the storm damage or do we keep normal priority?

[low crane]

you still want Execute for Bladestorm resets and Rampage for Enrage and RB resets

[lapis rose]

hi can u pls answer, i watching OxxyOG ST rotation and he use TRoar before BS, but on wowhead not like this, whats right?

[coarse laurel]

gotcha, thanks!

[olive wraith]

In st? That’s weird

[low crane]

scrap that i had the slayer mt opener in Mind

[gritty thorn]

new fury warrior here id like to know how to sim for m+

[olive wraith]

Ya roar isn’t in the opener

Weird

[olive wraith]

I just sim st

[lapis rose]

i shoul prio him roar on last spot?

[olive wraith]

Use brain or vibes for trinkets

[olive wraith]

Roar is 2nd to bottom, just above ww

[low crane]

Roar is quite low in priority in ST... it just doesnt do much

[olive wraith]

Another time you can use it if you’re running out for mechanics

Since it’s got a little range

[lapis rose]

ty

[low crane]

i still tend to just use it though... probably not optimal but better than sitting on it I guess

[olive wraith]

Anytime. I like when people ask specific questions about prio

[olive wraith]

I do too just out of habit tbh. It’s funny if you look at sims sometimes the first use is like 4 mins in

[lapis rose]

im newbee, playing 3 weeks, never play wow before

[olive wraith]

No ya ur good bud

It’s when people just ask for the entire prio when it’s available on wowhead or videos

[low crane]

i mean you literally asked why one guide says A while another one says B, so... thats as good as rotation questions can get 😄

[olive wraith]

Totally asking for clarification is my fave types of question

[verbal garden]

Should reap the storm always be top damage in M+?

[lapis rose]

and can i quick question i take recommended WA for Sudden Death, i should use execute and prio him when i get sound this WA?

[maiden valley]

My prio question: in m+ scenario what do u press after coming out of bladestorm and have 3 stacks of marked for execution? Assume you’re good on enrage and aren’t worried about BS cdr for next pack

[low crane]

it triggers off 40% of your RBs, does massive damage and hits more than 5 targets... if pulls are big, then yes. or atleast quite high

[deep gust]

guys how do i become very strong?

[lapis rose]

just play and learn)

[low crane]

you want to use stacks, you also want to then make sure you use some RBs before your next Ramp

[verbal garden]

If its third behind RB and Rampage, am I doing something wrong?

[maiden valley]

Yeah. So you execute first and then go into raging blow spam?

[fleet parrot]

Gym

[low crane]

not optimal you could already build new stacks... you basically are filling an already filled cup.

but it wont kill your dps

[verbal garden]

I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

[olive wraith]

Yes

[storm birch]

I’ve never found anywhere better to use roar in ST than before BS so I’m not wasting a global anytime after overwhelm is applied.

[olive wraith]

Exe conditionals>rb spam after bs

[low crane]

marked for execution only stacks to 3. so not using it means you are capped on stacks and cant build more. thus: BS -> Exe -> RB Spam -> ramp

[olive wraith]

You most likely don’t have overwhelmed applied to targets before spamming rb

[low crane]

after BS? yes you should have overwhelmed

[olive wraith]

I think he said reap is 3rd on his breakdown

[low crane]

that strongly depends on what key you're in though

[maiden valley]

Thanks

[olive wraith]

I guess. But it’s technically a loss to wait for bs isn’t it

[olive wraith]

It shouldn’t ever be behind ramp

[storm birch]

I’m not sure I guess I’d have to look at the dmg roar + roar dot does with no capstones

[olive wraith]

Either way it’s probably a very small optimization

You could also roar mid charge

[low crane]

i mean... yeah I guess.

[storm birch]

It’s basically a global going to roar rather than a raging blow. I just don’t know if the overall dmg a roar does is worth losing one raging blow

[olive wraith]

Number one reason this happens is cause mistake in bs usage

[olive wraith]

20% st and around 67% im 5t (with 10 stacks of overwhelm)

[fading sky]

I just roar when mobs arw gathered

[storm birch]

I do see on lorrgs out of the top 10 M fract parses only like 3 are casting roar on pull @olive wraith my guess is it’s a microopt but could be a bit bigger than I’m thinking

[fading sky]

Ngl its sad its this bad

[olive wraith]

We don’t have cds

Big rip

[fading sky]

Roar just needs a decent buff

Or removed

Idc at this point

It isnt rly needed

Mby moved to arms? As a capstone?

[storm birch]

@lapis rose It looks like roar being out of the ST opener is something I was unaware of. Also looks like top performing ST parses are using it during opener though so it’s probably a small optimization but that doesn’t change that it is indeed optimal to use it when you’re forced out of range or have nothing other than TR or a whirlwind to use.

[fading sky]

Feels like an ability u should have in talent not class three

[bitter palm]

nope

[storm birch]

I’m always happy to take an L when an L is warranted

[bitter palm]

people send it on opener cause its a miniscule gain to use it as a filler

always has been the case

these optimizations dont bring high parses

[storm birch]

Makes sense. It seemed very small

[fading sky]

High parses = goose procs🤣

[lapis rose]

ty

[storm birch]

It’s seemed similar to throwing storm bolt during bladestorm haha

[bitter palm]

high parses = group does nothing to adds

and u get to pad

[fading sky]

Fractillus?

[olive wraith]

Can confirm

[bitter palm]

get lucky gg

[olive wraith]

That’s why my araz is high

[storm birch]

🫡

[fading sky]

Proggin araz atm. Ngl thats an intense fight

[storm birch]

Fight is so fun

I thoroughly enjoyed it

[bitter palm]

fight

[storm birch]

I enjoyed soul hunters even more I think

[undone flower]

I think it is a dps loss but doesn’t matter in the grand scheme

You can do top parses with minor errors (I do even tho I sometimes lose AJ once)

Pressing roar is a habit hard to lose

[lapis rose]

guys what is it on my wa?

[fiery tide]

looks like victory rush

[oblique trail]

Its basically a buff showing how long you can use impending victory/victory rush for free

Or to show it procced, and the cooldown reset

[potent citrus]

@olive wraith wtf do i do when i dont get a single proc for 30s straight

suffer and die?

[compact knot]

of what

sudden death?

[potent citrus]

anything

[compact knot]

i mean

you cant do anything

[potent citrus]

pain

[compact knot]

but it not proccing in 30 seconds seems wrong

[potent citrus]

i did the first boss of a +12 arakara today

with like 2 deadly blow refreshes in the first 30s

it was painful

[compact knot]

yeah it can happen sometimes

unlikely but it does

[compact knot]

the thing is, roar just isnt very good if not talented into bloodborne AND thunderous words, and since you take neither it becomes a irrelevant button to push

it does NOTING except damage

no rage

noting

raging blow generates rage and buffs rampage, execute generates rage and buffs bladestorm, rampage consumes rage and makes you consistently do 70% more damage because you are enraged

troar needs something, because it literally does less damage than all 3 of those buttons while at the same time offering less, which is not really what a 1:30 cooldown should be lol

[bitter palm]

even if u talent for it its still bad

[compact knot]

ehh idk

[bitter palm]

consequences of nerfing aoe cds and buffing the shit out of rotational spells

[compact knot]

i talent for it without even taking bloodborne and its pretty decent

but im also the one freak playing odyns

which with odyns it actually does have a interaction

[bitter palm]

compared to the monster it used to be

rip troar

algethar troar top on overall

[compact knot]

idk it has to do something

not even generating rage is kinda insane

[bitter palm]

it does just not for fury

[compact knot]

not like it would do much

[dense elbow]

[bitter palm]

i mean twords does

consequences of df talent trees

gotta talent into everything

and god forbid they make something remotely interesting

[compact knot]

like its actually fun

[bitter palm]

dont forget arms rend is still in the game

for no reason

it literally does nothing

[compact knot]

frost dks 1:30 spell is literally one of the biggest steroid buffs in the game

and then we have troar

LMAO

[bitter palm]

our cds are meaningless

wow reck increased rage gen

so i can cap even more than before

cool

[dense elbow]

If you think Roar is bad. Compare OF (45sec) Vs Wake of Ashes (30)

[bitter palm]

day 38405 of begging blizzard to remove avatar from dps warriors

its a tank cd

[compact knot]

odyns does more than roar imo

atleast odyns enrages you and gives you ww stacks

[bitter palm]

the only good part is blademasters for arms cause it changes up the gameplay and makes it feel better

and old titans torment for fury

[dense elbow]

Not overall in keys, even with Roar without nodes

[compact knot]

overall wise its barely lower

but the enrage and ww stacks make it way more

[bitter palm]

both are fake everything is fake its all 1-2% give or take

illusion of choice ahh

[dense elbow]

That enrage is worthless and bonus dam even more so

[bitter palm]

nah enrage is peak qol

[dense elbow]

Sure

[compact knot]

the enrage is not worthless

[dense elbow]

But 0 dam

[bitter palm]

u use it as better ww

bs

extend enrage for more rb spam

[dense elbow]

Yep

[radiant plank]

Playing 0 deft is misery tho

[bitter palm]

true

might be time for blizzard to

[compact knot]

i dont notice it much

[bitter palm]

start exploding our cds

remove roar spear ava

[dense elbow]

O deft is not allowed

[compact knot]

you still get 3 raging blows in before you need to rampage

0 deft is absolutely allowed

[bitter palm]

make odyns core of fury

fury has what

5 cds

reck ava bs/rava troar/spear odyns

[compact knot]

you dont push bloodthirst except for bladestorm

[bitter palm]

xdddddd

and only bs does something as slayer

[dense elbow]

Hmmm, not sure it should be core. Then itt will prob end up as wake of Ashes

[bitter palm]

rava is just there to fish for tb

[dense elbow]

Just another buff spell

[bitter palm]

then its gonna be at the bottom of the tree and u will make sacrifices u dont wanna make

[dense elbow]

OF can be fixed by keeping it up to date with any other buffs as they happen

It just fallen too far behind

[radiant plank]

Middle of the tree OF would be competing vs hns,cshb,ss,smf

xff

[bitter palm]

holy competition is tough

[dense elbow]

Well, then it would be fine being a 2% DPS increase. Same as CSHB

[compact knot]

swapping odyns and onslaught

would be a massive buff

btw

[radiant plank]

yeaah

[compact knot]

in aoe***

[bitter palm]

ye swap deft and ct and it would be huge

or of and ons

[compact knot]

u can pick up bloodborne

[bitter palm]

the main issue with it is talenting into 2x ct

[compact knot]

dont have to sacrificed anything major

[radiant plank]

Check my discord status message

might be the greatest quote I found

[bitter palm]

losing a point in deft is just losing 1% dps

[dense elbow]

To be fair, all the end nodes for Fury needs work

[bitter palm]

science based vs horsecockign

[dense elbow]

So we can only hope

[radiant plank]

Horsecock fullbody

[compact knot]

bladestorm + unhinged and avatar + choice node below it are only two interesting ones

and even then their choice nodes are super shit

[bitter palm]

unhinged is boring as fuck icl

rava unhinged is kinda cool

[radiant plank]

@bitter palm can we just release the gigaimgur without class tree

[compact knot]

i fw unhinged

[dense elbow]

They prob shouldn't do choice nodes. Instead let you take both, go further specialise as needed

Power through investment

[compact knot]

these nodes gotta be removed icl

the problems

like every spec has them too

[dense elbow]

Those are our main DPS gains tho

[bitter palm]

@radiant plank on it

[compact knot]

i know

[bitter palm]

gonna remove class one

[compact knot]

they are the strongest nodes in our tree

[bitter palm]

inshallah we get this

[radiant plank]

Cinema

White tear falling down my leg whenever I see this

[bitter palm]

white river ✅

[dense elbow]

Fookin arms players man

[radiant plank]

Just wait till u see the Fury tree

[dense elbow]

Knowing what ppl want Vs me, I will be dryer than a piece of charcoal in the Sahara

[dense elbow]

"OF now grants a buff, making it's value now locked to the abilities you buff"

Going for a bleed theme, care so it doesn't become feral tho

[radiant plank]

Dealing (more than BT) damage

gigachad

[bitter palm]

i need xans update tho

[radiant plank]

i promise its not a bleed theme

[bitter palm]

to move fan of longswords to slayer

[radiant plank]

just a thing or to

[dense elbow]

Fair, a bit of bleed is nice for just some number spam. But that BT does make it sound like there is going to be some big bleeds to bloodbath value from

maybe it is just RA bleed 🩸, maybe you going for Rip

[compact knot]

im gonna talent out of troar i think

in my st spec

[dense elbow]

You got expunge in there so who knows

And take what?

[bitter palm]

shattering throw

[compact knot]

wrecking throw prepull

[dense elbow]

I got both

[bitter palm]

shreds armor

cluegi

[compact knot]

u gotta drop movement speed or second wind

movement speed bigger dps increase

[dense elbow]

Shattering shatters? As in buff all phy dam?

For everyone

That sounds dreadful

[bitter palm]

classic is better than retail anyway

ultimate chatting

[compact knot]

class design in classic is way better (mop)

[bitter palm]

retail all time low class design icl

(dps warrior design)

(arms design)

[compact knot]

dps warrior is bad

[bitter palm]

"design"

[compact knot]

dk is pretty damn good

mage is pretty good, arcane is a bit cringe but the other 2 are good

[bitter palm]

rogue is good

[dense elbow]

I just hope they make spear/roar a choice node. Then in spears old place put something focused on either ST passive or an onslaught ish ability

[compact knot]

ok rogue might be the worst one

it might be worse than warrior ive heard

[bitter palm]

me when i have 0 energy cause funny people at blizzard

[bitter palm]

not worse than arms imo

arms has 0 flavor

flavor over all

[dense elbow]

I think most can agree to fun gameplay over all

No flavour, is a bland experience fr

Arms do need something, as every time I try to go arms. I get bored

Last time I enjoyed arms was Legion

Not sure if that is nostalgia talking or not, it has been that long

[bitter palm]

arms legion had flavor

tactician was a real proc

it actually felt like u found a weakspot in ur opponents defense and exploded him

[whole remnant]

vanilla is the best the game has ever been and will ever be. if i could i would run naxxramas weekly on 7 chars for the next 50 years of my life but they keep releasing these stupid tbc and wotlk expansions.

[undone flower]

What’s your thought on cleave ? I kinda like collateral talent

[deep gust]

hai

i need advice

[dense elbow]

yo Kana

[deep gust]

which gnome should i play body type 1 or 2?

[dense elbow]

About what?

[undone flower]

1

[whole remnant]

TWO

[dense elbow]

Flip a coin

[leaden wasp]

Do u guys Play without odyns Fury in m+? It only sims 0,5% lower overall and feels so comfortable (returning from season1)

[dense elbow]

It is not a lower overall, you gain DPS not taking it

If ya don't want to take OF, ya can skip it 100%

[leaden wasp]

Thats what i mean.taking it, is a 0,5-1% dps loss for me but i Like it 😂

[dense elbow]

I play with it, even with the DPS loss

It's fine

Doesn't stop me doing any content

[deep gust]

is it ok if i make group of +2 mythic at ilvl 675?

[dense elbow]

You can even do a 10

So yeah

[deep gust]

wow

how 10

will people not bully me?

[dense elbow]

They will

Doesn't mean that you can't do the content

[deep gust]

ok

will they bully me if i make +2 now?

[leaden wasp]

No

[deep gust]

nice

[dense elbow]

There is a high chance that they will, and if they do ignore them

Low keys often got frustrated and unskilled players, who feel they are better than they are

Their ego is bruised, so they lash out at others

[deep gust]

oky thanks kitty

[dense elbow]

If they attack you, just take a screenshot shot and we can laugh at em together in here

Phone auto complete is the bestest best

[deep gust]

but there is no picture perm:(

[mint hound]

Yo, completely new to fury, how do we use our cooldowns recklessness and avatar when running berserkers torment?

[deep gust]

hmmm

why is Tazavesh: streets of wonder not in the spellbook?

i mean adventurerse book

???

[last nacelle]

Hi !, quick question about jastor diamond, i have it in 684 and no rings (even the crafted in 720 don't replace it, he replae my voice of Ka'resh instead) the ring is simbait or he is really good and we play with even with the low ilvl ?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1zKi8V5ckJS88X1Ac5BgwM here the sim

[devout zodiac]

When simming for keys, are you doing a mix of 5 minute 1 and 5 targets and just deciding on what to do? Or are we doing some 1:30/2m sims?

[dense elbow]

All explained in the guide #dps-faq, but TLDR ezgame version can be summed up as: "if avaible send it"

The bonus reck from ava, and ava from reck, stacks up on eachother

[hardy cargo]

tazavesh gambit and streets are 2 wings of the same megadungeon streets is up until so'azmi and gambit is the last 3 in the book

[dense elbow]

It probably just means you are quite mastery starved, so you can trust the sims. Also try siming Mast/Vers rings

[dusk holly]

does it make sense for me to just craft a 2nd weapon ? or is crafting 2 other slots better than that? Yes i know i slacked on belt etc xD

[dense elbow]

Only makes sense if you will not do mythic+ 10s, nor any mythic raiding.

You can get a 710 twohander (farmable), and the jump from 710 to 720 is probably less value for you than going 675 boots and belt to 720s.

Well, not boots

[dusk holly]

i am farming my ass off trying to get 710 weapon 😄

[dense elbow]

Wrists/Belt

[dusk holly]

wrist is haste mastery in myth track tho

[dense elbow]

Do you raid at all?

[dusk holly]

yeah but not mythic

clearing hc

[dense elbow]

Aight, then you gonna get the special boots from soulhunters one day or another

so dont craft that

[dusk holly]

i think i should craft belt + something else

[dense elbow]

Are you doing any M+10s, for weekly vault?

[fast mural]

which one for mythic nexus king
both are at 704

[dense elbow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1YCMRhrnwQUDTZEz3A2JcF
Yep, you just want mast/vers a lot. That is why.

[dusk holly]

yes i am spamming keyts

[dense elbow]

Aight, then crafting weapon is dead for ya

Dont waste two sparks (like I did on my BDK) on crafting a weapon that will be replaced by the vault :v

[strong ridge]

i mean you couldnt know bro you did your best 🫂

[dense elbow]

It hurts every time

[low crane]

My math just ain't mathing today... Yes it's 20% with 10 stacks

[eternal sundial]

just note it rolls the dice per guy

not adding the probabilities cuz you hit 5 guys

[low crane]

I wish I would get 100 gold everytime someone with way better gear than me did less DMG in a key. I mean even in lowkeys...

[low crane]

Yeah im aware how that works mathmatically. It's still single proc per Use though, right?

[eternal sundial]

no idea if it can double spin icl

[lapis rose]

guys someone know how can make blue effect?

[eternal sundial]

weakaura

[low crane]

If its no addons it might be an accessability Feature

[eternal sundial]

https://wago.io/pQY99qwWt

smth like this

i think there is a less shit on in atrocity ui

but im not logged in

[low crane]

You can adjust the Cursor size itself ingame though.

[lapis rose]

ty

[eternal sundial]

yes but it looks dogshit if you have a preschooler cursor

[slim coral]

Use both

Skies is insta locked and nether good for dmg amp and ads

[lucid crag]

What weakaura does people use to know if you get targeted by a random cast so you can prepare a defensive? I can't seem to find any good updated ones.

[warm crag]

would not use netherprism on salhadaar that shit is ass

[warm crag]

what's your use case here? if you're afraid of dying on dimensius p1 to being shot by the adds you have other problems to fix

if you're looking for dungeon related weakauras i think there might be some spell reflect/dungeon packs that highlight when you're getting shot

[eternal sundial]

the usual targeted spells weakaura

that twicks makes

[pine vigil]

hey guys how can i make the droptimizer work as max upgrade in raid?

[warm crag]

click the button that does that or

[clever belfry]

0.2*5=1 buddy

You definetly don't have to do 1-(4/5)^5