fury

[undone flower]

Once you try to do it multiple times, you get the timings you can bs or not for the cage / I really comes down to like silm describes it

[restive peak]

Ye I'll start that now

[undone flower]

It doesn’t change whatever the key lvl is

[modest condor]

really dumb question: are you dualwielding?

[rocky locust]

Yes.

[upbeat plume]

funny thing I tried, taking spear instead of roar is kind of fun for eco dome

[modest condor]

have you tried relogging?

[rocky locust]

No.

[sullen dove]

spear is always more fun if u just insta bladestorm spam a few reaps

Roar is the most useless button in the game

[upbeat plume]

roar is solid for large groups and its not to bad combined with the odyns m+ build

[sullen dove]

only reason it’s “better” cuz u don’t take capstones under it

[modest condor]

if i were to play spear in m+ i would probably pair it with OF and do something like bs > spear > of > rb spam

[upbeat plume]

exactly waht I did

[rocky locust]

Relogging worked.

[upbeat plume]

worked pretty fine, but honestly its more evidence that our picks at the bottom of our talent tree dont mean a whole lot lol

[modest condor]

turning it off and on, always works

[zinc remnant]

Guys, how do I use raidbots to know which flask to use?

[feral ivy]

what bosses yall on atm?

[olive wraith]

Lfg

[modest condor]

ive killed 6 bosses on lfr

[quiet breach]

on fractilus mythic can u cheese the breaker/wall to stay on the boss?

like timing a leap

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/dandelion-cat-meme-nature-plant-gif-8120693323711655977

[balmy shore]

DIMENSIUS

the ALL DEVOURING

[edgy widget]

I use shadowplay myself, but it really is annoying af sometimes

[edgy widget]

Dimensius the all disconnecting

our monk can't stay online to save his life atm

or ours

[balmy shore]

i've never liked using shadowplay imo

trying out wcr the past few raid nights and it's p neat

i get multi pov of me accidentally pressing bladestorm during a knock

[cerulean badger]

Yes you Can leap Right After the initial knockback

[balmy shore]

leap + reflect

[lean heart]

i was trying to fix my food buff before key so i took neck off then forgot to put it back on ran an entire key without neck lmao

[hardy cargo]

LOL

[feral ivy]

how hard is nexus mythic? ehh or hard

[restive peak]

I just got dropped in like 120 pulls in and in 15 pulls I've seen deep p3, it's easy for us

[undone flower]

Saladbar

[restive peak]

It's hard as a fight, easy for our role

[undone flower]

Nexus king p1 might be shocking but it aight that bad, for us at least

[restive peak]

Hardest part is souls tbh and it's not that bad, idk

Our jobs/role are easy here

[sinful spoke]

guys

help me choose a ranged alt

[undone flower]

It’s a very short dance basically, but it shell shock on the first couple pulls

[sinful spoke]

i wanna replace my dh

with one of those 4 ranged

[undone flower]

Hunter

[junior oyster]

The naming convention really breaks down at "Breathofpiss"

[sinful spoke]

[sinful spoke]

oh yeah

good ole breathofpiss

[undone flower]

If it’s from this sceeen, evoker but Aug angle is too risky

[sinful spoke]

nAHHHH

I WILL NOT PLAY AUG AGAIN

NOO

[candid pagoda]

where do y'all use your idol in your opener? that cast time is really messing with me

[sinful spoke]

right off the bat

then u ramp into cds

make sure all the adds are together tho

[candid pagoda]

before ur in melee range?

okay

[sinful spoke]

no in melee range

obv reck goes first

[undone flower]

Exactly, playing deva is cool, but you have the other spec lurking

[gusty cloak]

15 priory missed by 8 seconds dammit

[sinful spoke]

hmm

[sinful spoke]

drachonite is a dope name too

[undone flower]

• you can eliminate the Druid, i don’t think you want to be a boomie

[sour tundra]

hmm do you guys think its worth to craft a 720 belt over delve belt?

[sinful spoke]

nahh

[undone flower]

tbf I would go mage Cheche

[sinful spoke]

thats a cat/bear alt

[undone flower]

Or deva evoker and gquit disappear 2 years if Aug comes back

Me too I’m looking for an alt, a second main, a real one

[sinful spoke]

hmm

i do like arcane

[undone flower]

The only mage spec I don’t really like is frost

Personally

But I’m not a big caster lover

The only ranges I can see myself playing are the ones I know they don’t cast, like fire mage (but it comes with 2 other specs) and hunter

[sinful spoke]

ngl

i miss playing afflic

[candid pagoda]

bm seems to be slamming after those fixes/buffs

[sinful spoke]

it was so fun during df

maybe ill play that instead

[undone flower]

I used to play aff warlock but I got stabbed in the heart in SL by blizzard in S1

Demonology is the one I don’t really like

[sinful spoke]

yeah

demo is boring

[undone flower]

On my side, I tried the past two weeks havoc, it is very fun but I don’t see myself raiding with it

[balmy shore]

i play fury warrior

[undone flower]

I’ll revisit dk and hunter this week

[sinful spoke]

samesies jackie same

[undone flower]

I will always be a fury first

[undone hearth]

hey guys, playing as fury i noticed that my aoe is not that good, but the ST is really good. is that a normal thing or i'm missing something?

[sinful spoke]

show us ur dmg breakdown

[sinful spoke]

show us ur talents now

[undone flower]

You forgot the first question, tier set situation

[sinful spoke]

that too

[undone hearth]

4 pcs of tier

[sinful spoke]

ur not spamming rb enough

too much rampage

[undone hearth]

hmmmm i see

[sinful spoke]

only rampage to enrage and for the slayer bonus

[undone hearth]

so, i can just spam rb till rage full?

[sinful spoke]

spamm rb with cleave

[undone hearth]

damn, i see

[sinful spoke]

even if overcapped raged

[undone flower]

Yes, and we press bloodthirst as a filler / not very often

[sinful spoke]

to re enrage if needed

tab target bt

[undone hearth]

damn, i see now

[sinful spoke]

think of rb as slam

hell slam prob does more dmg now

[undone hearth]

i usually prefer rampage on my rotation, but will correct this

so, rampage just for enrage and rb like crazy

[bitter palm]

yes

rb infinite damage

[undone flower]

• you need to have bladestorm at every pull, or you will be sad dmg

[undone hearth]

got that, gonna run a few m+ and try that

thank you guys

[undone flower]

So you hold bs near the end, if you are not sure you can’t farm cdr enough

[undone hearth]

will do that

thank you!

[sinful spoke]

@undone flowerwhat abt ele shamman

[undone flower]

it's one i'm thinking but caster is a drawback for me

[sinful spoke]

enhance is fun too tho

[undone flower]

i don't see it very useful if i can swap to enhance ngl

dk or a range is the things i'm thinking

[tidal kindle]

[hardy cargo]

[modest condor]

crizard

[balmy shore]

hi garms we're on dim now

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/HSDW.gif

[feral egret]

So, question wheb do you rampage in aoe, and do you use a ww stack for Rampage or execute

[sinful spoke]

you do for both

but rampage is only for enrage

and for the bladestorm buff from slayer

execute u still do it the same as last tier

2 sd or two stacks of the slayer buff

[feral egret]

Rampage only for enrage not for rage dump? So I will most likely be always capped on rage?

[olive wraith]

Did some 10s with some guildies

I didn’t realize how fast those mobs die

[sacred oak]

does this line mean overcapping fury is ok?

[olive wraith]

That’s actually the opposite

[sacred oak]

rage? whatever its called

[olive wraith]

Press ramp at that rage

To avoid over cap

[sacred oak]

but its 115 or more, delaying will automatically mean overcapping right?

[olive wraith]

You don’t delay past 115

[sacred oak]

or is the delaying part referring to anything thats happening before 115

[olive wraith]

You press ramp at 115

[sacred oak]

okay ty

[feral egret]

So do I trust you or cheche.

I've not been able to hit those big fury numbers in keys

[olive wraith]

You don’t over cap in keys (outside of brutal finish)

Hitting ramp gives you more rb charges

Ignoring ramp you’ll run out of rb charges. Possibly won’t have rage to ramp. Then you’re stuck hitting something less desirable

[feral egret]

And I need to make sure to perfectly use ww? Every execute and rampage also?

[feral egret]

What is brutal finish

[feral egret]

Is that the talent where you should rb until out of charges after BS for big rampage?

[olive wraith]

Yes

[feral egret]

Okay

St and aoe?

[olive wraith]

Yup!

[feral egret]

So don't wait until 5 stacks every time though before rampage

Just if I highroll it

[simple jay]

Unyielding Netherprism....on CD or with Avatar or Recklesness?

[sullen dove]

idk its kinda shit but prolly rather use with avatar

9 stacks for 20 seconds to fully line up with av

[smoky vale]

why would you press it on cd...

[sullen dove]

vs like 4 stacks with reck that lasts like 12 sec

baby shit

[smoky vale]

hey swordish when you gonna stream again

[simple jay]

Should i just use my 671 Pacemaker vs hero track prism then? just got it from the weekly quest

[smoky vale]

that is a robot question

but no way 671 is worth it

[frank dawn]

almost certainly prism is better, just send it with avatar

[simple jay]

bet

[olive wraith]

On average I get 2-3 rb. Cause you still pres exe conditionals

[sullen dove]

man imagine if i had a myth weapon

itd be so cool

[feral egret]

last stupijd question but this helps a ton

Do i hit execute at rage cap or do i spend rage first then execute

[smoky vale]

i miss swordish stream

[olive wraith]

I think exe conditionals are higher prio but I can remember for sure

One sec

Yes exe is higher prio

[feral egret]

kk

[sinful spoke]

i miss him raging during either queen or gally i dont remember which one it was

at his guildies

for causing a .1% wipe

i remember now it was queen

someone slappy hands the adds onto her

@sullen dovegood memories?

[flat river]

Guys I won't respond on this account for the next two days so direct all the questions that are directed towards me to my alt account @smoky vale

[sinful spoke]

@smoky valegala wheres gio i havent seen him lately

[sullen dove]

was i raging

maybe

but yea good times

[hardy cargo]

40s over on 17 floodgate man we played so clean too

[sullen dove]

like 2 sub 1%'s i think

[hardy cargo]

only 3 death

[sinful spoke]

didnt time?

bad players

gg

[flat river]

Alt account Haven't been using it in a while

[hardy cargo]

[sinful spoke]

gio isnt locked in

he geeked out

[smoky vale]

focus up

[sullen dove]

crazy how i owned fractilus and i just am missing like 110k dps

[flat river]

Alt account i need u to answer questions directed towards me for the next two days

[sinful spoke]

what was ur d[s

dps

[sullen dove]

like 5.8 something

[sinful spoke]

thats way better than me

[sullen dove]

mightve been 6mil if forgeweaver had the fucking decency to drop its weapon

[sinful spoke]

lole

we havent seen a single 2h myth wep drop

[hardy cargo]

I had to break 7 walls this week on fract made me tear my hair out

[flat river]

I had to break 4 but i feel you

[odd garden]

been searching through the discord but cant find the secondary stat percentage i should be aiming for, can someone kindly point me in the right direction

[pearl sequoia]

you can find a stat priority on wowhead but your character will want different stats depending on what gear you have, its all individual

[hardy cargo]

it depends on the gear you have in bags, sim yourself to know for sure

[celest sierra]

hey question- our opener is it Avatar then Bladestorm or Bladestorm then avatar

cause i feel like sometimes i open with 25k or sometimes i barely break 7

?

[sullen dove]

what are these numbers

25k what

but yea youd ideally want to have bladestorm be under avatar

idk why fink otherwise

its still pretty good damage

sometimes not worth to hold bs for too long to wait for an ava so might send it if av is still like 10-15sec+ off cd and reck nowhere near

[hexed wave]

just make sure u r enraged before bladestorm

[edgy widget]

because there isn't one; unlike classic, stats in the modern game are so incredibly codependent that its pretty rare to have specific "target points"

• every now and then there will be a hard breakpoint somewhere (like fitting an extra GCD inside an important recurring buff), but even then the nature of stats and ilevel often means that more raw stats is better than slightly more optimal stats

[edgy widget]

Avatar should always be first

[edgy widget]

this isn't the difference of Avatar though, it's not that big of a buff; seems more likely that you're either looking at different times (Fury DPS spikes a bit, but falls off very quickly and builds back up over time) or perhaps a variance in how many targets you're hitting pull to pull

[desert zodiac]

How good is fury at funnel compared to other classes?

[undone flower]

I have the araz weapon

[sullen dove]

explode

but nice

also had rly nice procs on screams of forgotten sky but its still champ track wouldnt be unreasonable to have gotten heroic by now and then crest save from soulbinder trinket to have it maxxed that would have been nice

[undone flower]

But araz is the fight I can’t parse smh

[sullen dove]

no one is ever parsing that boss

its a joke

any caster is doing 3x more dmg to the boss while doing same dmg on adds

and also just cleaving 2-3 pylons for fun

[undone flower]

Im gonna lobby for a bl on pull and try to skip the second intermission next week

[edgy widget]

Fury does good semi-passive cleave, but it doesn't really funnel the way a Mage or DH does

[edgy widget]

as long as your players don't routinely eat dirt in P1, that's 100% the play now

[sullen dove]

kinda feel like u would lust first intermission no

like the end of it

so it bleeds into dmg amp

but idk

maybe less boss dam than just all cds 40 sec on pull

[undone flower]

We were 6-7 % short of skipping it this week

[edgy widget]

lust difference for us was usually ~5-6%, so that's p close

[undone flower]

• move some people out of the third soak can surely make it certain

For the lust timing yeah whatever pull or the first amp / I will check what people usually do

My personal shame (I died only on this week kill)

• i played slayer the first two, before the fix

[sullen dove]

vermin padders

stealing more of my damage

[nimble sphinx]

so for soleahs do sim that with mastery or haste? or does it depend if its ST or AoE?

[sullen dove]

soulhunters kinda chill

[undone flower]

I don’t like the fight, but yes it’s just a short 2 mech vomit

Very chill to prog

[edgy widget]

Soul Hunters isn't hard at all, it just has a lot of random bullshit that can fuck you, which makes it really annoying

and while a lot of it is compensatable, there are so many mechanics flying out in rapid fire succession that its easy for something to get slightly misaimed or mispositioned

[undone flower]

We had one where a cleave was aimed on the bosses / melee hunt, 5 people randomly died

[cobalt kernel]

not to derive the convo but have you gotten to nexus king archi?

[edgy widget]

we're on dimensius

[undone flower]

Im currently on king nexus

[cobalt kernel]

where are you both potting?

[edgy widget]

if you wanna parse, on the intermission adds
if you wanna kill the boss, on the P2 burn

[pearl sequoia]

pot on dragon burn

[undone flower]

Im early in prog / second night on it, I just saw the intermission

[edgy widget]

Unfortunately the P2 burn is really mid for Fury, it just doesn't last long enough for your damage to ramp up

[cobalt kernel]

im 150~ pulls into platform prog, titan/reaper dmg is iffy so ive been potting inter dno if thats valid

[undone flower]

I will likely just pot on pull + repot at 5min

[edgy widget]

I mean, if you need intermission damage, that's definitely the right place for a big intermission damage dealer to pot

but post-nerf, that shouldn't be a major concern for most groups

Last phase is a mechanics check more than a damage one, but the faster you kill the dragon, the shorter P3 is going to be, which means less time for someone to make a mechanical mistake that could wipe the raid

[cobalt kernel]

ye

[undone flower]

We reached 20% titan both sides with not at all everyone alive, we didn’t see many platforms yet

[cobalt kernel]

im with barn animals so i have to do extra stuff on my end to compensate sometimes

[edgy widget]

and its surprisingly easy to make those mistakes; beyond the obvious stuff like missing your shattering, just dropping the stars slightly too far forward, back, or close together can easily cause a wipe

[undone flower]

Surprising I was terrified of p1 the first night but it was mega chill for me yesterday

[cobalt kernel]

using an inky black lowkey makes p1 free

[undone flower]

Casters are not living a good moment tho

[edgy widget]

for example, this star (blue line) being too far forward of the rest (red line) is going to cause it to collide with the set in front of it

which is a really simple mistake to make in the heat of things

[undone flower]

I didn’t feel the need to use one tbf

[edgy widget]

ofc that can happen on the first or second set too, but my point is that the less time you spend in P3, the less potentially wipe inducing stars, swings, and other shit you'll ultimately have to deal with

[pearl sequoia]

with current power we were able to kill after the second movement rings

[edgy widget]

It will become continually easier/quicker, especially after turbo boost

[pearl sequoia]

easily yea, dragon will die everytime most likely in burn to

[edgy widget]

just explaining why potting the dragon is generally seen as best for the raid, even if it's not very good for us personally - that said, if your group will actually benefit from killing the intermission adds a little faster, then potting there is much better for Fury

[undone flower]

We might kill it next week, which will likely be our last reclear

[edgy widget]

yeah most groups lockout when they get to Demi

[bleak carbon]

If I have spell reflect on when jumping to a pool in last boss of ara kara does it prevent the root?

[undone flower]

• We had our dps dk missing for 2 weeks, he need a loot feeding reclear

[edgy widget]

I'm probably sitting Demi starting next week unless someone is out, so I get to go on vacation early

[cobalt kernel]

im forever on warlock on soul hunters :]]]]

[undone flower]

Im the battle shout

After prog I’m gonna do arms only reclears to learn the spec if my apply situation is fixed

[cobalt kernel]

i was the only person told in my guild to swap for soul hunters, were afraid of upsetting our dk telling him to swap frost

lowkeyly pmo

[undone flower]

Fortunately our dk was out irl, so technically he was not bench on soulhunter prog?

[eternal sundial]

Did this happen to you or why the Q

[half valve]

I was looking at your Fractilius log the other day since mine sux ass, even tho we have roughly the same gear and same kill time. Still a mil difference.

Do you follow the prio strictly and am I right to assume that it's probably down to uptime on a fight that's to simple as that?

[hardy cargo]

yes

[bleak carbon]

trying to figure out what happened here in this clip

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/l8gvt5tBsQQyR78lJ?invite=cr-MSxISk8sMjIyNTQ4NTA0

[hardy cargo]

it prevents the pool from rooting and spawns the little homie

[bleak carbon]

okay thank youy

[hardy cargo]

couldve maybe charge back to the guy it spawned

but other than that yea get fucked

it also does it on the pools up top that the little dudes drop

[bleak carbon]

gotcha thanks!

[edgy widget]

honestly my fractillus hasn't been very good either, I seem to always get my best pulls when someone fucks up a wall and we insta wipe 🥲

[half valve]

Hmm might have been the HC

[edgy widget]

well I think I have a 97 in there atm, which is good, but not great

[flat river]

It always seems like they do it on purpose

[edgy widget]

unironically - four wipes in last week our monk was like "man he's been popping off" and then we wiped again to a bad move
....killed it the very next pull, and my worst of the night

[edgy widget]

but yes, largely just follow the rotation - it's the closest to patchwerk fight we're ever going to get

• the only real trick is that you can immediately heroic leap or charge the big wallbreaking knockback, you don't actually have to get pushed all the way to the back of the room and stand there. Done correctly, you should have virtually 100% uptime
• likewise, when you get the wall placement that does a smaller knockback, make sure you're close to the boss and the boop won't actually take you out of melee range (you can also bladestorm immune it, but you shouldn't sit on the CD just for that)
• defensively, make sure you spell reflect each of the big void circles, since that's the only real important damage in the fight. If you have two stacks of the debuff, use ER or Defensive Stance as well, especially if you're doubled up with another player's circle (because you'll take 4 hits instead of just 2). The damage also ramps over a very short period of time, so you can also throw out a quick Victory Rush to help make sure you're topped off before the big explosion

[half valve]

I see

[half valve]

You are on the right

[lilac temple]

Does anyone know of crests going to be uncapped 11.2.5?

[half valve]

I suppose thats also something to keep in mind in terms of the soft assignment on mythic

[hushed ocean]

better gaming chair

[edgy widget]

some of that might be haste, but there's also a certain amount of RNG to Fury atm - I've had pulls where I'm so starved for SD procs that I'm spamming BT and Whirlwind

[flat river]

They will be, 8th of October

Same time as Legion Remix

[edgy widget]

like this was one of my pulls, I was tearing my hair out

[flat river]

[edgy widget]

that's ~22 manual BT and Whirlwind casts (not including BT from Bladestorm)

[half valve]

I have 4k more haste than you.
Yea ok. Have notist that as well. When the WA ping u every 3rd global

[edgy widget]

like what in the actual fuck kinda RNG is that lol

[flat river]

Skill issue ngl

Should've played around it

[edgy widget]

ironically, I don't actually use the WA, I have my own simpler one that I use alongside my eyes lol

but I still follow the same priority - Exe at 2 SD or 2+ Marks

[flat river]

Saves the good one for himself but gives us the bad one

[edgy widget]

naw, I just made mine first and I use actual action bars instead of a full suite of weakauras

so I built mine to make my action bar glow

[flat river]

I don't use the WA period xD

I didn't use it season 1 or 2 either

[edgy widget]

which also requires a separate addon to make buttons on my action bar not show the default glow when I don't want them to, which is actually becoming a major issue w/ blizz' default frames

[flat river]

Hmm true

[half valve]

I dont get tho, how your Rampage dmg is higher, but you cast three less 😄
I mean it must be the RB stacking of the buff or something.

[edgy widget]

yeah, very possibly

[half valve]

And thats stil only when BF is up that you cap rage to spamm them?

[edgy widget]

while Fury doesn't have a lot of RNG compared to other specs atm, it's really hard to compare pull-to-pull, because the game still has a lot of RNG between all the crits, procs, resets, buffs, debuffs, etc, etc

[flat river]

For some reason

[edgy widget]

yeah after Bladestorm, basically just spam until RB or Enrage run out (while still using Execute as needed)

[flat river]

Marked for execution either procs a LOT or very little

[edgy widget]

usually only get like 2-3 in, but every now and then you go on a high streak

[half valve]

Got it

[flat river]

Differs between pulls for some reason

[oblique trail]

Welcome to rng

[cobalt relic]

all gg

[edgy widget]

yeah that's just how it works sometimes, you notice it a lot more w/ MfE because it directly correlates to how often you push a high priority button

which means mostly you notice dry streaks a lot more than anything lol

[ocean hill]

Would 720 crafted boots better than heoric reshii boots?

[sullen dove]

very unlikely

[edgy widget]

not even remotely; and it certainly wouldn't be better than heroic reshii + 720 crafted in another slot

[pale lava]

simmed this a while ago and heroic reshii we're always pulling ahead

[edgy widget]

iirc the effect is worth ~1-1.5% or so, which is a lot more than 10 ilvls on boot

[ocean hill]

Got it. Thanks.

[raw bone]

hey guys! is there a WA to track which enemy you have the frenzy stacks on? when there's a big group and i have to swap targets to kick something it's easy for me to lose the initial target

[radiant plank]

Use focus kick

so u dont have to swap target

[cobalt relic]

so what we craft ring or belt

[smoky vale]

robot

hi walhe

[edgy widget]

w/e you need really; I made a ring, since delve belt is still better w/out a socket and I don't have an extra one yet

[stoic echo]

Some pulls you just get huge execute procs and sometimes I just randomly lose my 5 stacks cause rng was like "nah man"

a bit frustrating

dont wanna know the pain of arms having like 10+ stacks and then getting rng fucked tho

[cobalt relic]

@edgy widget which stats did u go for and what ilvl does the ring have 704?

[edgy widget]

the ones that sim best, and gilded goes up to 720

[mystic spear]

Does rampage need to be cast before enrage runs out or does the enrage from rampage buff itself if u cast it when not enraged?

[hardy cargo]

enrage happens before the ramp so ramp will benefit if you arent enraged

[mystic spear]

Oke thx for clarifying

[toxic jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413241837900005386/reaptech.gif

[cobalt relic]

patchwerk 5m 1T?

[fair wolf]

On mythic araz, we are trying to push adds to the area, do you know guys why the cant be pushed? I ve seen that strat in several videos :/

[fiery tide]

thats a old strat, most just run behind the pool and let the adds walk through it

[pale lava]

it's still the most optimal strat if you have the specs that can do it

[fiery tide]

its also just 10x more risky, if the wrong people gets pools its gg

[pale lava]

what classes are trying to do that?

[fair wolf]

Shaman evoker and monk?

[echo meteor]

Damage feels low and I feel bad
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rGZHyf8M91BwV7mP?fight=2&type=damage-done&source=5
Anyone take a look at my basic problems? ilvl parse is 90% but I don't think that means anything for M+?

I'm not very confident in reading non-raid parses bc timeline doesn't make sense to me, not sure what to look for, a bit lost

[pale lava]

they should be able to do it, do they just not move at all?

[fair wolf]

They dont move like anything xD

[hardy cargo]

I am also not the best at figuring out everything wrong u did in a key but you have very long strings of either pressing too much whirlwind or not pressing it at all

this is very early in the key so unless u are like chasing a mob thats running this is a lot of missed dam

[dense elbow]

Checked your rotation, it is all a mess at a core level. Please go to #dps-faq and read the guide for Fury multi target rotation. Study it. Then train on dummies, do a key, check your logs for the same mistakes you will now be able to spot. Then do some more training dummy training. Make it gradually muscle memory

[echo meteor]

yea my dummy training is fine, i'm like 10% off the simc

so it's bc i'm a dummy

[coral maple]

yo brand new to fury, just making an alt to play, is putting avatar and recklessness on the same macro fine? or should i get two different binds for them

[dense elbow]

Sure you can, but reck will also need its own button

[echo meteor]

I don't know if it's an issue with my ping(avg 150-200) or queing because I know about the whirlwind stuff and have a hard time telling when I have the buff or if it went off

[hardy cargo]

youll want a button for both, however u are fine to macro reck into your avatar button. there are times youll want to press reck and not avatar, but never the other way around

[echo meteor]

I'll look into cleaning up the rotation, thanks guys

[dense elbow]

Gl, that is your main problem

[coral maple]

good comms ty 🙏

[hardy cargo]

there is also a delay on the reduction of stacks from most weakauras when pressing rampage I think there is one that floats around that removes this delay, but I do not have it someone in here is bound to have it

[edgy widget]

its not a WA issue, Blizzard changed the way Rampage consumes the buff

[coral maple]

you hold avatar for recklessness but never the other way around is the basic thing?

[hardy cargo]

no you never hold one for the other, there are just times in a key or whatever where you want to press reck, but not want to press avatar

[coral maple]

ah ok

[hardy cargo]

but never the other way around

[coral maple]

i see

[edgy widget]

Because of Berserker's Torment, there's no inherent need to hold one for the other (though you may sometimes want to hold both for a damage phase or something)

since w/ the talent, every time you press Reck you also get Avatar, and vice/versa

[coral maple]

i see i see

would you guys recommend a guide other than wowhead

wowhead makes it seem you only press them at the same time

[hardy cargo]

I think this archimitiros guy might recommend wowhead

[chrome plover]

funny that

[edgy widget]

I might also recommend Icy veins

[coral maple]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-ducktales-ducktales2017-house-of-the-lucky-gander-gulp-gif-21467706

[edgy widget]

or any of the others

I mean if they're both available at the same time, yes you will press them both together

[coral maple]

i understand now, im also just bad at reading prio lists so it could be that

[edgy widget]

it's a catch-22, just as many people fall under the mistaken impression that you should never press them at the same time

so, ya know, pick your poison

[iron portal]

but @tribal nymph might recommend something even worse

[pearl sequoia]

[slim coral]

@edgy widget thought you might enjoy this https://www.twitch.tv/bazefacee/clip/CourteousHeartlessStarKappaWealth-ZR9yk2RNeZiEzNvy

[quartz charm]

For me it works just fine to have the macro, as when both are up, both will be employed, and when reck is up but not avatar, you will get only reck casted ofc. So this covers 90% of the situations. I also have separate buttons, but for very niche situations. For example, if a pull is half HP and I dont want to waste avatar because I want it up for next pull, I do trigger only reck + bladestorm, as Im going to crush the rest of the pull and get these two fast again with rampage and sudden death, so I can start the next big pull with the whole CDs up. But again, this happens very few times in an m+, if you want to start easy, the macro basically does it. Or maybe I just do it wrong

[remote bobcat]

oh lord thats a funny back n forth of interactions

[edgy widget]

lmao what the fuck

[onyx linden]

Dafuq happened there? And how did you not get consumed?

[edgy widget]

he doesn't actually go through the boss, just the cam angle makes it look that way

[onyx linden]

True, it was close tho

[oak folio]

If I'm crafting a weapon as my first craft, should I add an embellishment? I don't raid so I'm not sure if the weapon embellishments are worth it?

[cobalt relic]

all g

gg

[onyx linden]

If someone offers you free money, would you take it?

[oak folio]

Can you remove embellishments later? I figure I'll put the best m+ embellishments on armour that I craft

[onyx linden]

You can remove, yes

There is an embelishment, which does nothing, literally, u have to recraft with that and its gone

[oak folio]

aight sick I'll put on the darkmoon embellishment, ty!

[dense jewel]

And it's not like it's bad in M+ either, still great for bosses, just harder to use since it requires chain pulling for mobs

[modest hollow]

why does my bladestorm be ready 25-30 seconds before recklessness?

[oblique trail]

Because of Marked for Execution

[modest hollow]

is there anything i can do to make them cooldown at the same time?

[dense jewel]

not really, you hold bladestorm when the current pack is about to die and you won't be able to get it back before the next pack, otherwise you always send cooldowns

[clever belfry]

marked for meow

[oblique trail]

[compact siren]

Alert

[fickle kettle]

probably dumb question but jsut getting into fury. the slayer execute condition wa, i do press execute when it kaching right? but when does the icon show and why if not to press it?

ah kaching is for 2 stacks, marked for execution, 2 stacks sudden death and ashen expiring and the icon is execute range wiht 1 stack of marked for exeuction correct?

[dense jewel]

yup you nailed it, and it's not always right to press execute right away especially if you have bladestorm up in a few seconds as you can get a bigger refund afterwards or are needing to rampage for the enrage buff, though ashen expiring may take prio, not sure, otherwise send execute on kaching

[fickle kettle]

could u eloborate the "esp if u have bladestorm up...". u mean if u would "overcap" the cdr of bladestorm with the execute?

[limber oar]

you waste some of the cd refund of proccing your MFE stacks if your Bladestorm is up in 2 second and you have 2 stacks

[dense jewel]

id say if you have 5 sec left and can just rampage into bladestorm then execute

cause youll only kaching with 2 stacks of marked so you'd waste 5 seconds of refund

[fickle kettle]

have to say the specc plays pretty smooth and intuitive. i like it

only thing is my weak aura package show BT crit% and glow and it sits there for ages. will tweak it

recklessness and avatar and safe to macro togehter and just press if one of it are ready?

the guide says reckless+avatar >charge > ramapge as opener but i dont have neough fury after charge. am i missing somehting?

[cobalt kernel]

reck charge ava

[fickle kettle]

ok, then wowhead guys is wrong but does that change the fury situation?

[cobalt kernel]

execute or bt

[fickle kettle]

ye fair, but wondering why it is presented like that^^

[cobalt kernel]

what fury situation

[fickle kettle]

after cd's + charge i dont have enouhg fury to rampage

[oblique trail]

You do it before combat starts, or when you're not in combat yet

Which means you either get lowered to 20 rage when combat starts (if you pop CDs and are the first to pull), or it's already pulled and you're not in combat yet so you start degening 1 rage instantly, putting you at 79

An option/solution is to force enter combat, which I did with heroic throw when the pull timer hits 0, to have consistency

[fickle kettle]

doing it on dummys right now

[cobalt kernel]

ya that

[ancient olive]

if i'm playing dark iron in m+, would you say I should pop fireblood just on cd as a damage cooldown. or should I lean towards saving it as a cleanse?

[silk wharf]

Make sure you are hitting recklessness before avatar to multiply the rage gained.

[oblique trail]

Also make sure it's explicitly Reck -> Avatar

And not Avatar -> Reck

As it makes a difference

[fickle kettle]

ah true sry.

but the other info is really helpful aswell

[cobalt kernel]

may be worth noting that if youre in m+ you dont have to use bolt in bs

[oblique trail]

That optimisation in general should just be ignored

[fickle kettle]

to understand it correctly after bladestorm, i would useraging blows, till i have no stacks left or enrage expires before rampage correct? and if i have a "kaching"-execute i would press it before the raging blows?

[oblique trail]

It's if you're lucky a few hundred to 1k dps in a fight

[oblique trail]

As for the RB yes, and Execute with the above caveats which were explained is otherwise the highest priority

[cobalt kernel]

use rb till you cannot enrage or no enrage, what ive been doing is if i have 2 stacks of execute i press it if im enraged to not overcap sd

[fickle kettle]

i refered it as "kaching" execute, from the weakaura that what u mean with above caveats?

[oblique trail]

That, and also more so there are niche cases where it's something you'd delay

[white relic]

there is a bug, that if you CDs + charge and then enter combat, your rage will setback.

[silk wharf]

Raid bosses reset nearly all resources to a "baseline" amount when you engage them in combat.

[oblique trail]

It's not a bug

[glad coyote]

oof

[white relic]

yeah i mean. sorry. not a bug but a .... i dont know the word.

[cobalt kernel]

if youre not in combat your rage will deplete over time

[oblique trail]

It's to stop people from degen prestacking before a fight

[fickle kettle]

already greatful for the input so if u already bothered enough its fine. but could u explain the niche cases? i like theorycrafting 😄

[white relic]

there is a comment about it
https://youtu.be/6Gdu-FcxsKw?si=xNyTqIDklwklJvsP&t=50

[oblique trail]

I'm talking about these mentioned niche cases

#fury message

[fickle kettle]

ok thanks

[oblique trail]

But there are other cases you can find with more experience, or playing more

Where you realise, a ramp is enough

[wind citrus]

Do I still use the sudden death WA when the boss is under 20% Or just use execute on CD?

[fickle kettle]

ye im the kinda guy that spends to many hours reading before actually playing and finding out a lot of question solve themselfs 😄

[cunning condor]

Did all players went to path of exile?

I barely find tanks or healers

Season 3 feels dead on arrival

[fickle kettle]

i think the knowledge of turboboost coming and now the acutall release date makes people not wanting to push till then

[cunning condor]

When’s the turboboost?

[earnest canyon]

No, probably good games instead like Silksong

[oblique trail]

They're playing the queue simulator in fellowship buddy

The just better m+ experience

[earnest canyon]

I had never heard of that thing, but genuinely thought it was some LotR game from the name, where you played a Hobbit and went on adventures with your Hobbit buddies 😂

[fickle kettle]

thanks for the help and good day

[calm mantle]

I can't tell if my arcano core at myth is actually doing better then my 710 sac brood in keys

of If I should try pacemaker over sac

[dense jewel]

what's the main trinket? Antenna?

[calm mantle]

Yeah myth antenna

[glad coyote]

kinda wish sac was better over all

[dense jewel]

The myth arcanocore perfoms better than sac but worse than pacemaker I believe in multitarget

@calm mantle I would use Antenna/arcanocore in your position, though if you have cursed stone idol I would use that over arcanocore

[warm crag]

arcanocore is an st trinket i'd not bring it into m+ at all

[glad coyote]

trinkets this season are sus, like non of them are fun to have

[dense jewel]

it does 5 target split damage, and at myth track it performs better than hero sacbrood, and slightly worse than seaforium while being way better for ST @warm crag

[warm crag]

sounds extremely sus

[cunning condor]

yeah,game's dead

[icy topaz]

Titan quest 2 gang

[jolly parrot]

can u skip campaign mid campaign?

i fcked up skip on alt

[calm mantle]

I have stone idol I just don't want to use it. I absolutely hate the channel on it.

[high sedge]

its not that bad you can move while casting

[calm mantle]

Still hate it, if I can still do keys without it I will

Arcano did 2.3% damage in a 15 Eco

[weak wagon]

So what is the best trinket set up?

[calm mantle]

No idea lol I'm clueless on this shit

[compact knot]

bro would have hated puzzlebox if he cant even handle stone idol

[upbeat hare]

hi new to warr/fury i have no myth track yet just startet it this id wondered what to craft with 4. spark this week i crafted 2hand with ascendance and wrist with armor banding cuz i am going to raid with my fury

[calm mantle]

I also refused to use puzzlebox, I forgot what I used in it's place

[weak wagon]

Idol+sac seems to be the go too

[compact knot]

what else u got if u dont want to use idol

[weak wagon]

Pacemaker maybe?

[calm mantle]

I'm running Myth Antenna and Myth arcanocore atm, I can sub out arcano for hero pacemaker or sac brood

[compact knot]

pacemaker does pretty much the same thing, antenna is a good one, screams is good

both of those are good

just use antenna and arcanocore

[weak wagon]

I've been using screams, it's nice on bosses

For packs, just pure rng on stacks

[compact knot]

screams is like 4% of my overall

perma 2k crit

its aight

[upbeat hare]

anyone could kindly help? 😄

[compact knot]

it depends on your own situation, if you have a bad neck i would craft a neck, bad rings, craft a ring

[warm crag]

idk sim yourself we don't know what your weakest piece is rn

[compact knot]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[warm crag]

mythic offpiece craft is very strong usually but very situational

[calm mantle]

Arcano was 2.3% of over all maybe screams is better

[upbeat hare]

thats all i wanted, if you go with weakest thats enough for me 😄

[compact knot]

not necessarily, screams is 2k crit and arcanocore is like 7k main stat

[calm mantle]

That's true, mainstat feels nice

[compact knot]

which is why i really dont think what trinket you put really matters for m+

just highest ilvl

(unless its like a PURELY st trinket)

[twin hornet]

Guys, I need some help. I’ve been running simulations on Raidbots to improve my Fury Slayer damage. I did a key with another warrior and noticed he was dealing way more damage on every skill, which I found odd. When I checked, I realized I was sitting at 44% haste — that might be one of the reasons.

I swapped my stats and right now they are:

Crit: 17%

Haste: 33%

Mastery: 58%

Vers: 15%

But Raidbots keeps suggesting I should stack even more haste, even though this doesn’t seem to match the usual stat setup for warriors on murlok.io.

Does anyone know why most warriors are sticking to this stat distribution?

PS: I’m currently doing +15 keys.

[compact knot]

these are literally my exact same stats that I hit like 12m overalls with

it doesnt matter, gameplay is the thing that matters

[remote bobcat]

dont compare dmg per skill or whatever just dont please

it could be uptime

it could be better usage of CDs

it could be better usage of the overwhelmed debuff

[compact knot]

yeah its not stats

irrelevant

[remote bobcat]

there are so many contributing factors that aren't stat percentages

[clever belfry]

okay?

[calm mantle]

You're hitting 12m overall? I average like 8m depending on dungeon.

[compact knot]

i hit a 12m overall in a floodgate

that was with a hof tank though

so

[twin hornet]

Khazix, you did this overall with 44% or 33% haste ? Just to check

[remote bobcat]

better routes and/or higher key level

[compact knot]

33% haste

[remote bobcat]

the haste does not fucking matter luk

😭

[calm mantle]

Ah, I just hit 7.6m over all in a 15 eco.

[lusty jungle]

damn you gapped rank 1 floodgate by 30% thats crazy

[compact knot]

i gapped rank 1 floodgate by 1m dps according to wcl

details meter lied

[remote bobcat]

this is rank 1 ig

idk where u get ur 30% from but yeah

nvm critcake even got 12mil

[compact knot]

its just route

also it was a 12

so

[remote bobcat]

it really is just route yea

upload log no?

[compact knot]

its uploaded

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/45?boss=62773&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&bracket=11&metric=dps

[remote bobcat]

11.2mil

[compact knot]

i see

details meter was still different

it was like 11.7 i think

[twin hornet]

Kronzo and Khazix, is there any way to check in the metrics what I might be doing wrong? I even sent a PM to that warrior and we talked a bit, but I don’t seem to be doing anything different — probably just at the wrong timings. I usually open the pull with Bladestorm, then 4 RB if available, and I use the aura to track Executes.

Thanks for support

[compact knot]

read

[cobalt relic]

all gg

[compact knot]

stat literally do not matter in m+ unless you are legit like 50k into vers or something (nobody is if they sim normally)

id say 95% of your dps in a key is due to route, cd usage, key level and rotation
the other 5% is trinkets and stats

[twin hornet]

Thank you !!!!!!!!!

[compact knot]

and a lot of people love to ask about the 5% for some reason

[calm mantle]

i may be stupid but what does "MFE" mean for execute

[compact knot]

marked for execution

[remote bobcat]

• dont arbitrarily hold cooldowns, we get them back extremely quickly and/or they arent worth a lot. Avatar, for example, isn't particularly good and you get so many recklessness presses next fight/pack that holding is often a disadvantage. Just maintain bladestorm beginning of the pack
• When bladestorming, make sure to please be enraged and have whirlwind stacks before clicking BS. You are trolling if you don't.
• When bladestorm, make sure you stand in melee range of your primary target, else you miss a LOT of damage due to your "unhinged" talent being useless outside of melee range. Unhinged casts can also proc reap the storm. They are important.
• Don't think about stats, don't think about arbitrary things. Always look inwards. Where are your mistakes? When did you press what? Did you hold too long? Did you drop enrage too much?
• Upload your dungeon logs to warcraftlogs.com to allow yourself and others to have a proper look into what's going on. Details damage breakdown and stat weights don't tell you your problems.

[calm mantle]

I may or may not hit bladestorm before being enraged way too often :c

[remote bobcat]

I'm so close to writing a weakaura that just disables my bladestorm keybind while im not enraged

for you

[calm mantle]

Sometimes I just send it in hopes I get enraged midway but this is why I'm an average player

[remote bobcat]

[remote bobcat]

below avg behavior

[calm mantle]

🙁 I'll do better

[unreal onyx]

do you guys know how long it's gonna take me to get 1800 pvp rating if I play 2v2s with a main pvper friend?

I need that tmog set this season

[smoky vale]

faster if you do shuffle i think

just run people down

[quartz charm]

According to critcake, given you are enraged (you should always be) execute is always prio if you have 2 stacks of sudden death, unless bladestorm is up or about to be Up (less than 5 secs), where bladestorm + rampage take prio

[quartz charm]

Macro your charge with your heroic throw and this Will solve your problem.

[polar narwhal]

just do shuffle

[warm crag]

solo shuffle it its piss

[remote bobcat]

taunt dummy and it will solve your problem

[unreal onyx]

any time range?

propably 1 day to 1 week

[warm crag]

1 day tops

2 if you are demotivated by queue times

[quartz charm]

Btw I have a question for you guys. I'm currently running ara-kara sac brood and eradicating arcanocore as trinkets. The recommended bis items, tearing appart dimensius', are the arcanocore and the astral antenna. This last one is not for me, as I'm dumb when It comes to trinkets with minigames and I utterly fail. This given, Ive been thinking in raising my crit, as haste and mastery are already overcapped, by introducing pacemaker or stone Idol to my build. However, It doesnt Matter how I sim It, the outcome is less DPS than I currently do. But I really think that Stone Idol is going to be awesome instead of the sacbrood to pop with bladestorm for a 100% crit masive aoe dmg. Do you think this is worth, or would you substitute the arcanocore instead?

[remote bobcat]

no just sim

[warm crag]

i think you overestimate the "minigame" for antenna it spawns balls and you pick them up theres no minigame to it

[quartz charm]

I Will have this into account, I Hope I can take It with an alt to test It before maybe using my weekly on this

Thank you for the feedback

[quartz charm]

My experience with the sim is usually not always reliable tbh, most of the times yes, but I tend to test the builds myself and also compare everything with what people wears in Murlokk io, and is pretty ... Lets call It different

[warm crag]

idk tehres not much to say other than sim yourself you concern yourself with stat caps and stuff that arent really real considerations

[quartz charm]

So I wanted to know if any of you tested It actually

[warm crag]

id personally swap out arcanocore cause its legit just an st trinket

[quartz charm]

This was also on my mind. I mean I consider the stat caps for doing Keys over 14, as I want to convert this overcap into versa

For raid I know is not a Major concern

Although I don't have economy yo duplicate my gesr

[warm crag]

i dont think fury should be concerned with dumping into vers for defensive value

[quartz charm]

Tell the top 10 in the world

[warm crag]

are you top 10 in the world

[quartz charm]

Oatshworn trnacity in both weapons

No

But they run optimal builds

[warm crag]

ye cause tenacity sims highest

[quartz charm]

I guess

And also versa in both rings

And priory ring

[warm crag]

cause it sims highest

[quartz charm]

Versa mast

Ok

So its just reduce to this simplicity

[remote bobcat]

My guy

the sims run multiple iterations

millions of them

for your specific character's inventory and gear set up

it will tell you what enchant is best, what gem is best, what trinket is best and so on

[quartz charm]

Does the sim understand that I want to macro my stone Idol with bladestorm to destroy a massive pull in flood? Legit question

[warm crag]

it will press it with avatar so yeah probably

[remote bobcat]

both stone idol and bladestorm are on the gcd

so like..

macroing them together ?

[warm crag]

unless you plan on not avataring that pull which would be very ominous

[quartz charm]

I tend to do this, so I just press several times the same button and they get launched on gvd

Gcd

I find It comfortable

[quartz charm]

Ok I see your point

It makes sense

The thing id that the more I play the more I see how valuable bladestorm is, so I was thinking into purely maximize It. Like first pull reck+avatar+bladestorm, destroy It, reload Bladestorm+reck and pop It with Stone Idol, as I'm not gonna have avatar for the Next one

And keep the crit uptime longer to squeeze every bladestorm I pop

[warm crag]

i think you fundamentally misunderstand what fury does or what your objective in a key is

[quartz charm]

I do not, thats why I don't run odins

But I like to try things out

Even if is not my job ti one shot AoE pulls

I'm not top ten in the world but I do have 3.1k io, and I'm just trying to look for new stuff, rotations, gear, to make the Game funnier an Who knows

I guess trying things out is the only way to know if they work or not

[warm crag]

go for it

[quartz charm]

I thought that any of you guys would have tested It before me so I could know

[remote bobcat]

bladestorms value comes from what it provides. The bladestorm dmg itself is not that much higher than simply getting 2-3 reap procs

[radiant plank]

Ok so you’re talking to a 2731 io fury warrior and I’m telling you, you don’t really see the community problem til you’re up here king

[warm crag]

no one will have tested desyncing our 90s trinket from our 90s cd to make a button that comparatively does no damage do more damage in the next pull

[radiant plank]

Akshually

I have tested on arms and it was suuper bad

[warm crag]

holy helly

[quartz charm]

Indeed, thats my Golden rule usually, and you Talk with a lot of sense. But is like dragonflight we S2 we were like AoE destruction with odyns and slayer, then we moved to MT to make more sustained dmg, and know we realize that slayer does a pretty nice sustained dmg plus a good beating on single target even running cleave

So I thought, maybe is time to break the Golden rule and bet a 100% on the continuos dmg

You feel me?

[silver tapir]

Ragebait?

[warm crag]

its not im 2805 and its tough up here

[limber oar]

I feel you

Its just wrong

[radiant plank]

WHAT AM I EVEN PADDING ON? 🤔 I'M FULL SINGLE TARGET ON THIS BOSS. 😌 I'M LITERALLY TOPPING THE SINGLE TARGET. 😎 PEOPLE TALK SHIT ABOUT ME BECAUSE THEY WANNA BE ME 😊 , AND I DON'T GIVE A SHIT. 💅 TALK SHIT ABOUT ME ALL YOU WANT. 🥱 IF YE IF IF THAT'S GONNA GET YOU A KILL ON THIS BOSS, TALK ALL THE SHIT IN THE WORLD. 🌎 BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE FACT THAT I AM THE BEST 💪 🏆 , AND I KNOW IT 🤓 , AND I DON'T GIVE A FUCK 🥶 . SO GO AHEAD. 🤯 TALK ALL THE SHIT ABOUT... ME YOU WANT. 😏 IF THAT'S GONNA GET THE KILL ON THE BOSS, THEN FUCKING DO IT. 😝 GOOD?

[limber oar]

But i see where yoire coming from

[remote bobcat]

slarms m+ when

[radiant plank]

Binned

[remote bobcat]

wym binned

[warm crag]

as long as arms still has 1 loyal player there will be no rework

[south kayak]

You heard him, change your name to fury guy

[radiant plank]

I will hold arms hostage

[remote bobcat]

😠

[lavish wedge]

any1 got an idea how I can lower the volume of the slayer conditions wa?

that shit is blasting my ear drums every proc

i've tried turning down some audio settings but it doesnt seem to work, also tried this wa that allows tts volume control and dint work either

[deep gust]

which addons is the best to see Ilvl of items and players?

[remote bobcat]

its probably running into your master channel

[lavish wedge]

my master channel is literally at 5 percent

and its still so dominantly loud over other sounds

rather it just be a background thing

[remote bobcat]

just check what channel its playing into

what do u want me to tell u

[lavish wedge]

where can i check

[remote bobcat]

in the weakaura

[compact knot]

@lavish wedge

change the sound channel

there is like 5 options and you can pick specific ones

[remote bobcat]

its either in the conditions or the actions tab

for most weakauras

[lavish wedge]

yo cheers

[compact knot]

np

[lavish wedge]

this is what i need thaks

oh dude this shit is miles better

i think the master volume modifier goes over the other channels

[compact knot]

lowkey leave it on blasting ur ears out htough

[lavish wedge]

so its just 20x nicer

[compact knot]

so u know it procs

[lavish wedge]

well ye i still hear it

[compact knot]

or else u dont know it procs since its not loud enough

[lavish wedge]

but it hurt

[compact knot]

has to hurt for more rage gen

[remote bobcat]

exe weakaura is more important than raidlead calls

imho

[deep gust]

please tell me best addon to see ilvls

[compact knot]

elvui

[lavish wedge]

better char pannel

if ur on default ui

[deep gust]

ew

elvui is disgusting

[deep gust]

ok thnaks

[lavish wedge]

looks like this

[deep gust]

oo nice i wanted this

[remote bobcat]

the double numbers of your items

the missing enchants

oh god

oh lord

[lavish wedge]

its my alt bro

[remote bobcat]

[deep gust]

u have many warriors?:o

[compact knot]

he has elvui as well as the other addon

[remote bobcat]

723 myth track ring and no sockets

[lavish wedge]

nah i dont have elv ui

[deep gust]

also u are not Gnome, which means that u will never be BiS

[compact knot]

oh

i wonder what does it

[lavish wedge]

i just have deja character stats and better character pannel

enabled on this char

cause its my alt

and i cba fixing it

[compact knot]

cause i installed elvui yesterday and it started showing

[lavish wedge]

dont have it on main

[remote bobcat]

the lag machine fr fr

[compact knot]

i dont got much

[remote bobcat]

🤷‍♂️

[deep gust]

how does void elf have most DPS?:o

[compact knot]

gnomes are ugly too look at

[lavish wedge]

u happy now

[deep gust]

no

[lavish wedge]

better?

[compact knot]

much better

[deep gust]

gnomes are the best looking race +strongest in pvp

[remote bobcat]

its passive has a 5% dmg replication DoT built into the race

[remote bobcat]

no one cares about pvp tho

[deep gust]

why not?

[remote bobcat]

it's a dead part of retail wow

more of a gimmick nowadays

[lavish wedge]

pvp kinda fun tho

[remote bobcat]

dedicated pvp players are miserable too

[compact knot]

pvp for mog

[lavish wedge]

also them new sets are crazy

[drowsy patio]

Hey guys, single minded fury any good? I like the vibes haha

[deep gust]

pvp would be fun if it was easier for new players

[remote bobcat]

not good but playable

[compact knot]

its like a 10% dps loss but if you dont really care it doesnt matter

or arent doing any hard content

[lavish wedge]

idgi why would u run that tho

doesnt feel different does it

[drowsy patio]

Not any faster to play?

[remote bobcat]

if you play SMF in mythic raiding scenarios then ur kinda disrespecting your guildmates if you didnt check in with them imho

[lavish wedge]

i mean ur always enraged anyway

and i doubt u can feel a 5 percent ms boost

[remote bobcat]

no

[drowsy patio]

Fair enough

[remote bobcat]

why would it be faster to play

[compact knot]

it plays the exact same

[drowsy patio]

understood

[lavish wedge]

i remember me and my raid buddy in XIV calculated that 5 percent ms is not feelable by measuring extra pixels travelled in same amount of time

giga nerd shit

its a bit placebo

[compact knot]

its bis melee stat

[remote bobcat]

^

[lavish wedge]

nice to have

u feel higher quantities obv

but just 5 is a bit meh

[compact knot]

i run leech/avoidance as fury though since we have hella movement speed built in though

[lavish wedge]

dont think single minded fury will play any different think its a bit of a waste

but if u like it send it

[compact knot]

it looks cooler

• hatsune miku mog

[deep gust]

what is best addon to see other players ilvl?

[lavish wedge]

??

[remote bobcat]

when hovering over them in the overworld? in the group finder? when inspecting them? what is it u want man ask proper questions

cmon now

[lavish wedge]

\

[deep gust]

yes i want in tooltip

[lavish wedge]

oh

then idk

[compact knot]

also elvui

[deep gust]

ew

[remote bobcat]

tinytooltip-reforged if you dont run elvui @deep gust

[lavish wedge]

do u have amnesia ur repeating same convo from 20 minutes ago

XD

[deep gust]

ohh thnaks

[compact knot]

the guy is ragebaiting

he did it in #arms like 20 mins ago

[deep gust]

how is asking question ragebaiting lmao

[drifting token]

My chest piece from vault came with +1062 extra Speed stat, so I slapped the +1000 speed on bracer and picked up fleet footwork so I'm just always at +17% faster. Feels pretty cool

[lavish wedge]

i respect the grind

[remote bobcat]

u suck at asking questions so bad that you end up ragebaiting people

[compact knot]

this is big

[deep gust]

is this better than Dejastats?

[compact knot]

nah it was actually ragebait before

[oblique trail]

as a machinist player you will notice it

any bit helps buddy

[deep gust]

yes it was but i was right about arms warrior being strongest in mop

[compact knot]

im not doing this again

[remote bobcat]

oh yeah i can see that now

yea u ragebaited

[deep gust]

plaese tell me what is difference between characterpanel and dejastats

[lavish wedge]

kappapenis

[remote bobcat]

are you unable to read the addon pages urself on curseforge ?

[winter kernel]

don't take the bait

[oblique trail]

I am speaking as one playing machinist both savage tiers

[lapis shadow]

Best warrior race is MagHar orc

[oblique trail]

Very real

[deep gust]

yes and didnt see any difference on pictures

[lavish wedge]

true

[remote bobcat]

[lavish wedge]

have u tried making a steampunk wheelchair

with built in turbo

[oblique trail]

no because SE wouldn't allow Machinist to have anything

[deep gust]

reported

[lavish wedge]

ur gonna take 20 potency on heat shot and ur gonna be happy

[oblique trail]

yes my job is now impeccable

[oblique trail]

all I'm missing now is a reason to be brought still outside of early pug prog

where they still just ask for bard/dancer

unlucky life choices

[remote bobcat]

the ragebait is strong with this one

[deep gust]

oh this can also show enchats

[lavish wedge]

just get a hardcore static and clear the raid in a day

[lapis shadow]

Can someone approve my PRs so I can get to real work, world of warcraft

[oblique trail]

effort and responsibility

[lavish wedge]

but my cute phys range would never play the gun job

[remote bobcat]

the addons are completely different and your lazy ass didn't even look at bettercharacterpanel despite claiming you checked pictures

🖕

[lavish wedge]

the bane of mmo players

[deep gust]

true

[oblique trail]

Would rather meet the specimens you meet in PF together with my 2 friends, and have something evil to look back on

[deep gust]

but i checked some pictures

[remote bobcat]

Shut up.

[lavish wedge]

it is true that pf is absolute content

my favourite part is people who can only play like m1 or r1 and shit

even though its just mirrored spots usually

and they'll leave if they dont get it

XD

[oblique trail]

I have been 2 sec before pull forced to play r2

as a physr

(On m7 where it actually matters)

[lavish wedge]

fk i dont remember pf m7

[oblique trail]

was fun having to find raidplan while doing opener

[lavish wedge]

i didnt rlly pf

just did my reclears and quit for the patch

but yeah sometimes it does actually matter

[oblique trail]

I did many helper kills (or attempted to) and m7 was where all the demons gathered

[lavish wedge]

i remember we cooked so fking hard on stars

i ended up coming up with the strat to alternate placing at wall and diagonal inside

and it lowkey worked/was pf for a bit was proud of that one

fun fight

[oblique trail]

Pretty sure that was standard for EU pf at least

diagonal middle for melee seeds, middle by wall if ranged seeds

[lavish wedge]

ye ig

our strat for like idk phase 3 the big mechanic

with the tethers and baits and shit

was a disaster

but it worked so it was chill

we did it giga downtime cause the check was a joke thanfully

[oblique trail]

It was, if you had humanoid dps*

[lavish wedge]

i think those 4 of mine qualify as hummonculus

[oblique trail]

And spoiler PF does not have humanoids

[lavish wedge]

pf probably perma died though

its an execution fight so I doubt it was clean ever

[oblique trail]

p2 fixed seeds is all I'll say

very difficult to just stand on your predetermined spot and dodge

[lavish wedge]

idk what i expected typing this in google

[oblique trail]

Close enough

[amber citrus]

Hi, I'm rolling fury warrior and so I'm a bit conflicted on where I should send my crafts. Is it better to just craft both 2H weapons or craft 1 and use 723/710 (crafted/heroic) weapons with a crafted bracers for the double effect embellishment.

[oblique trail]

You can sim this in top gear, but offhand ilvl does not matter as much as mainhand ilvl, so there's a good chance that crafting in another 2 slots rather than offhand will net you more damage

[remote bobcat]

do u expect to ever get a myth weapon based on your current progress? if not, send 2nd 2h craft, otherwise keep praying for myth weap and craft other stuff

[quartz charm]

main hand for sure crafted in most of occasions along with bracers. I guess this is the normal go to option. There are also a bunch of HC weapons that are cool for the offhand, like the fatebound crusader or the flood one

if you do over 10 m+ I would stick to this option and wait until you pull one of this from the weekly in mythç

[amber citrus]

yes but not for a while, this character is freshly geared I will need to at least get like 705 or so ilvl before I'm taken into raid

[oblique trail]

You can also get a myth weapon from the m+ vault

[merry zinc]

Hey all, I was wondering if anyone else have felt a sudden drop in dps when playing slayer

[warm crag]

no

[drifting token]

no

[remote bobcat]

no

its just u

[oblique trail]

Don't lie

[merry zinc]

What ilvl are you guys, dont mind me asking

[oblique trail]

You lost 5 dps last night

[remote bobcat]

716

[drifting token]

708

[merry zinc]

damn then idk what is going on

[remote bobcat]

do you wanna, maybe...give context ?

[merry zinc]

i lost like 2-3m dps on aoe

[remote bobcat]

?

[merry zinc]

in pvp atm, will explain after

[drifting token]

Check if your talents got reset or smth, sometimes tha trandomly happens because the game is dumb

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail balls

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry

[remote bobcat]

its someone not considering how overwhelmed works in 90% of cases

[merry zinc]

I do bladestorm first to build the overwhelmed stacks

[drifting token]

That would make sense if their dps was always shit and stayed shit. They're saying it was fine beforee and now is not

[merry zinc]

EU Ywh-Draenor

[whole remnant]

Ywh

[remote bobcat]

so is ur pvp match over? u wanna give context?

[winter kernel]

This is the sadness with having to record every key vs dota where I just watch my replay and see where I clowned

logging keys can also help you

[remote bobcat]

wdym having to record every key? warcraftrecorder does it for u if u download it

it's rly good

[merry zinc]

Okay, so i've gone from dealing about 11m on aoe with the current m+ build on wowhead, to doing 6-7m. Even though i keep overwhelmed stacks up and apply them to the pack with bladestorm on pull. Current gear is this

[winter kernel]

oh shit new tech, ty so much

[remote bobcat]

you do not deal 11 million consistent aoe

you also do not deal 11 million overall

end of dungeon overall

you never did

so what do u mean

[merry zinc]

Bro why are you so hostile

chill out

[remote bobcat]

ah dw im just german, thats how i talk

[merry zinc]

cringe but fair, i am obviously talking about burst AoE

[remote bobcat]

you deal significantly more aoe burst when you're enraged and have whirlwind stacks up before bladestorming

into then doing the slaughtering strikes + brutal finish + enrage optimization

[hoary agate]

[remote bobcat]

my best guess is that you accidentally did that before

and now you dont

but idk

you also need to stay in melee range of your primary target while bladestorming to get additional reap procs from unhinged

its very important

[merry zinc]

this is from 10+ Eco

6.77B 4.71m overall

[remote bobcat]

dmg breakdown doesnt say anything

[radiant plank]

Yikes

[remote bobcat]

do u have a log?

[radiant plank]

reap so low

[remote bobcat]

wait ur reap is nonexistant

lol

[radiant plank]

Bladestorm low too

[remote bobcat]

ok i guess sometimes dmg breakdown does say something

[radiant plank]

if your Reap damage is very low in keys, the most likely reason is that you're not ensuring Overwhelmed gets applied to each new pack before you start spamming RB
• you basically want to make sure Bladestorm is available for each new pack, because it immediately applies 5-8 stacks, then RB
• if you can't Bladestorm new targets, focus Execute & BT until you can