#fury

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sullen dove
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u only rly use it on 2 add sets and maybe one boss burn tho

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could maybe spear a couple adds in p3 tho before boss dies

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That fight is just cringe tho

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6 casters doing infinite boss and add damage literally can’t do anything compared to them

rocky wharf
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i've been benched for mythic forgeweaver and they putting me in today is why i asked. watching vod and looks like some nasty overlaps on top of last phase

warm crag
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benching warriors on araz is actually wild to me

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who the fuck are you giving the 2h to lmao

sullen dove
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gonna need that thing to drop on the third kill next week

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or else

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stuck at -100k dps just for fun

rocky locust
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@slow carbon @smoky vale It sounds like the general consensius is to step back and Charge anyway.

warm crag
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skyreaver cursing you rn

sullen dove
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wish I had a skyreaver

warm crag
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i have skyreaver

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i must destroy it

sullen dove
smoky vale
sullen dove
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but like those are the main 2 things and typically can lust second intermission to just get thru it fast

warm crag
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gio is so condescending nowadays

sullen dove
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he’s becoming European

warm crag
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wish he brought out the galastronk persona more often

smoky vale
earnest canyon
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sheer curiousity....eg bis trinks can be better than 723 myth trinks at 704, so just curious. Im never gonna prioritise iLevel over sim dps, except maybe some gimmick fight (eg we had to use PvP trinkets way back in some raid OR stack max hp)

whole remnant
earnest canyon
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i cant find it in the html report or figure out how to take top gear and run it as quick sim (i just simplied a top gear sim with 2 items to sim to get a html report)

warm crag
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click 3 dots

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avg ilvl is under gear

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but this is all completely useless info and i literally cannot figure out a way for you to construct this as anything useful

earnest canyon
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I said why lol

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its not for anything that will affect my dps output, just curious

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Ok got it, thanks!

static rock
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So i've got an A520 Motherboard, a new 5060 GPU, and 32 GB of ram, I still feel like i can barely squeak out 5 or 6 for wow graphics. I've seen some people say with a 3070, they are easily able to max out out the graphics. So does anything here point to me doing something wrong, cause I would like to not have to go down to like a 3-4 in raid, which looks like ass btw.

drifting token
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Out of all the places on the internet to ask that, you thought the fury channel of a warrior class discord was the right way to go?

smoky vale
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yes

static rock
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I saw people talking about their graphics and that wow is usually ram hungry, plus asking on like google usually doesn't help, The graphics on Wow are particularly bad compared to every other game I play

smoky vale
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wow is cpu heavy

hollow reef
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^

fading sky
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Ye also

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Playin max setting in raid

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Is troll

undone flower
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But yet, it is made to be played on a potato

fading sky
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Go look competetive settings + did u turn on

coarse nest
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CPU is wow heavy

fading sky
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I mean m8 theres ray tracinf

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U can put on

analog kite
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no point in ray tracing for wow lol

earnest canyon
# static rock I saw people talking about their graphics and that wow is usually ram hungry, pl...

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warm crag
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i trust the guy with the ai generated thumbnails

pallid hull
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Quazii is good guy

warm crag
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has to be if he makes slop thumbnails every time

plush zephyr
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When my friends ask for pc advice I’ll tell them to go to the Fury channel from now on

fading sky
static rock
earnest canyon
static rock
earnest canyon
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Just tweak somethings or use the sliders if you are lazy

fickle cedar
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me in raid bedge

analog kite
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fucken blizz

young swan
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yeah this game suck

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s

languid willow
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crazy ring drop from raid last night

edgy widget
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sick nasty

analog kite
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whats crazy about it

languid willow
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it replaces the necro band from priory

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at myth

analog kite
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+3k dps

languid willow
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5.47 to 5.52 nothing crazy still dope

fickle cedar
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btw guys dont forget to upgrade another belt to 704 for the runed discount if you're playing alts okayge

analog kite
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does the crest trade in vendor give gilded?

chilly fractal
chilly fractal
analog kite
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i was wondering why i never saw them, the belt makes sense

languid willow
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@chilly fractal the only one on sale on m yserver is 3.5 mil lmao i aint buying that shit

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let me rephrase that, i dont have the money to buy that shit

chilly fractal
gilded pawn
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Than a shooter

chilly fractal
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Because 1000% if anyone loots that other than me I’m getting told to get fucked

languid willow
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dropped off

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random trahs

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in mythic

chilly fractal
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I know where it comes from

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Was wondering if it was your loot or someone traded

languid willow
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its mine

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i looted it

polar narwhal
languid willow
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it would've dropped price way before it ever sold what I would care to sell it for

static rock
polar narwhal
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you know you can just move it into war bank and sell it on another server?

languid willow
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true

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or i can equip it

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and do dmg

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🤷‍♂️

polar narwhal
chilly fractal
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Or you sell on 1 server then buy on another on a different one… profit and do damage

analog kite
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i think its just your specs, even it your tuned settings all the way down you might hit 90fps

languid willow
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yea but I aint smart like that i just press rampage

tacit zealot
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Guys i need help, do i pick trink or bis ring? I already have stone idol and arcano in hero

polar narwhal
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also weakauras can impact fps a lot

coarse nest
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4090 + 9800x3d
This game still bogs in some raid encounters

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It’s just the way it is

tacit zealot
chilly fractal
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On NA I typically sell BoEs on Stormrage and buy on Area 52/Illidan… Stormrage has a high enough pop I usually catch a sale and prices are typically higher

polar narwhal
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i mean you can buy the trinket in a few weeks

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cant buy the ring

chilly fractal
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Illidan and Area 52 shit goes for much cheaper

tacit zealot
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true thanks!

static rock
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But it's the consistent dips in FPS with lots of people around that bugs me

analog kite
analog kite
static rock
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even lowering the settings doesn't solve the issue, cause I used to run this game on 1

analog kite
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is ray tracing on

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partical density?

static rock
analog kite
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distance?

static rock
static rock
earnest canyon
# static rock So from what I've gathered, even with maxed out hardware like the 4090 or 5090, ...

No, WoW puts a lot of the load on the CPU. All my 4090 does is let me have ray tracing and nicer water etc (which I turn off anyway).

The 3600 is not a great cpu for wow as wow is heavily singlethreaded and you want maximum IPC performance per core (its not very well multithreaded at all anyway), so yes, the x3d chips do superwell as the large stacked cache means more of the consistently used data is in fast on chip memory (l3 cache), meaning it doesnt need to go to RAM as often, or worse, go to the SSD/HDD

static rock
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so a better cpu would help, and i would want a cpu that is strongly single-threaded?

analog kite
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im not sure the new 3D chips will work with AM4 so you might need to upgrade your motherboard and ram

static rock
analog kite
earnest canyon
static rock
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But isn't DDR5 ram a different layout? Would the ram still both fit and work well?

analog kite
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you would need to check if your motherboard is compatible with AM5

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which would require a different adapter for your CPU as well, so i hope you kept the box and spare parts

earnest canyon
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He can stick a 5700x3d in it if he doesnt want to go to AM5

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or 5800X3d

analog kite
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yeah you can roll the dice and get maybe a used one

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i dont know if anywhere has new, but maybe

static rock
analog kite
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correct

earnest canyon
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AMD are actually pretty lenient when it comes to platforms and give you a few generations of CPU on each

static rock
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or just get the 5700x3d, which is just better suited for gaming, not necessarily more powerful than the ryzen 5 3600 i already have?

earnest canyon
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but you bought at the end of AM4

analog kite
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the ryzen 5 3600 is trash

earnest canyon
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i dont know, id have to look it up....what do you mean "powerful"

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the 3600 is a budget cpu

static rock
static rock
pearl sequoia
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not if it falls off a truck

earnest canyon
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its 3 generations old

earnest canyon
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I research stuff once every few generations, buy the top end for my needs, then im done for 3-5 years, so im not the best person to ask about gaming hardware.

iron portal
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Just go AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

analog kite
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yeah spend the 150$ more

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5700x3d is still about 300-350

iron portal
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You wanna see true gamer?

earnest canyon
tight roost
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i upgraded from 3600 to 5700x3d recently i can tell you it very noticeable

tight roost
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3600 was struggling eveng with pretty modest settings

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5700x3d is doing ok

static rock
iron portal
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I have built my pc in 2016

clever belfry
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big cache = good

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yes

earnest canyon
analog kite
iron portal
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And by those standards , the setup i have was already bit old

earnest canyon
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IPC gains arent actually huge

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but compared to your 3600, they will be large probably

iron portal
earnest canyon
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let me check how much I actually paid

analog kite
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yeah but if you have a 5060 paired with a 9800x3D its pretty pointless

crude mica
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Not for WoW

static rock
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cause I saw the ryzen 7 5800 XT for like half the price, and I just wanted to know why

prime summit
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this processor fixed every lag issue I ever had with gaming

earnest canyon
analog kite
iron portal
crude mica
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I gained like 60 fps going from a ryzen 5 5600X to a 9800 x3d

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Both on a 4070 Ti Super

earnest canyon
analog kite
crude mica
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I got mine at MSRP on release day no regret

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There was like 40$ difference back then

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I paid 449$ USD

static rock
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so basically I'd be spending at minimum $350 for an x3d model, right?

warm wharf
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Should I be pressing execute every time the weakaura gives the "chaching" sound or should i still prio RB?

analog kite
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you might be able to find open box

static rock
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how do you look for large vaches? I want to compare between different ryzen 7 5000 series

pearl sequoia
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theres wow specific videos comparing ryzen cpu performance, not sure how updated they are tho

earnest canyon
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intel tried to keep pumping clockspeeds higher and higher to compete, leading to insane heat and stability issues, so they had to do a massive recall

static rock
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so x3d's gimmic is that it has a large cache to compute lots of local data?

fading sky
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Its not a gimmic

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Its just very good on certain games

fading sky
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3dsponge

analog kite
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🧠 3D V-Cache Technology

This is AMD’s secret sauce. They stack extra L3 cache vertically on top of the CPU die (hence "3D"), which massively increases the amount of fast memory the CPU can use directly.

Why this matters:

Games (and some latency-sensitive workloads) thrive when they can keep more data close to the CPU.

The 3D V-Cache dramatically reduces latency and increases performance, especially in CPU-bound games or at lower resolutions like 1080p.

📊 How it compares:

Ryzen 3D chips often outperform higher-clocked CPUs (even some Intel i9s) in real-world gaming tests — not because they’re faster in raw GHz, but because they feed the CPU more data faster.

They’re very power-efficient, too. You often get top-tier gaming performance without needing as much power or cooling as high-end Intel chips

static rock
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I'm trying to compare that between like the ryzen 7 5800XT

fading sky
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Ye its night and day

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5700x3d

analog kite
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im sure theres tons of info

static rock
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ok, cause comparing them doesn't help on like a website, it said they were within like 2% of each other i think

analog kite
# static rock ok, cause comparing them doesn't help on like a website, it said they were withi...

🏆 Performance & Use‐Case Differences

Here’s how they differ in real workloads and what that means:

Gaming

Because the 5800X3D has much more L3 cache (thanks to 3D V-Cache), it tends to perform better in games, especially in CPU‐bound scenarios (low resolution, higher frame rate, or when frames are being bottlenecked by the CPU. )
TechSpot
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CORSAIR
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The 1% lows are often significantly better on the 5800X3D: fewer frame drops, smoother experience in demanding titles.
TechSpot
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The 5800XT may still win or be close in games that scale heavily with higher clocks (boost speed), or where the GPU is the bigger bottleneck (i.e. very high resolution, high settings).
Sportskeeda
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Non‐Gaming / Productivity

For tasks that depend more on raw clock speed / pure CPU core frequency (video rendering, heavy threading, etc.), the 5800XT’s higher boost clocks and the ability to overclock give it an edge.
CORSAIR
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The extra cache of the 3D model helps somewhat in some of these workloads — but if the workload is “standard multi‐threaded stuff” (not cache‐sensitive), the difference shrinks.
CPU Monkey
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Thermals, Compatibility, Other Considerations

Because of the extra cache, the 5800X3D can run “hotter” or have more challenges in cooling, especially under sustained load. Also, since its clocks are a bit lower and overclocking is locked, you have less flexibility to push performance.
Sportskeeda

Both are AM4 socket, same platform, same memory compatibility — so swapping them doesn’t usually force a bunch of other changes.
CORSAIR
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Price matters: If the 5800X3D is much more expensive (because of scarcity or whatever), then depending on what you do, the 5800XT might represent better “bang per buck.”
Sportskeeda
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✅ Which Should You Pick?

Here are which scenarios favor which chip:

Pick 5800X3D if:

You care a lot about gaming performance — smoother frame times, especially in FPS or competitive titles.

You want the best gaming experience from AM4 without upgrading your platform.

You’re okay with spending a bit more or getting one that’s priced high because of demand.

Pick 5800XT if:

You do more mixed heavy work (editing, rendering, etc.) where clock speed and overclocking matter.

You’re more budget‐conscious and the 5800X3D’s premium seems too high given what you’ll get

winter shoal
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Holy essaying

olive wraith
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I thought this was one of those scams

analog kite
olive wraith
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Mr beast wants you to have a pc

winter shoal
fickle heart
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Should I use rampage after bladestorm if ragecapped or still stack slaugthering before?

pearl sequoia
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stack

winter shoal
iron portal
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You sitll do RB after BS till you run out of enrage

olive wraith
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Brutal finish is the only time we actively ignore rage

fickle heart
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does that apply to both ST and AoE?

winter shoal
# analog kite chatgpt ftw

On god though using chatgpt to inform purchasing decisions is a very bad idea and you should definitely avoid doing it

iron portal
winter shoal
pearl sequoia
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chat gpt is only good for informing me on meme coin investments

winter shoal
fickle heart
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So I just want to stack slaughter untill I'm about to run out of enrage then slam rampage

winter shoal
fickle heart
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Yes

olive wraith
spare steppe
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I went with 5700x3d since the 5800 was $200 more

fickle heart
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I c I c

olive wraith
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Bowl too quick

winter shoal
fading sky
spare steppe
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Yeah I paired it with an 9070xt, I’m set for the next 5-10 years

dense fulcrum
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Any tips to maximize damage on araz mythic as slayer?

coarse nest
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Hit boss hope for gamba

vapid tiger
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Can save Roar for first set of adds, usually your 2nd BS is up right then too. After that its gets to chaotic to line anything up as far as I've seen

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Couple folks in top 25 parses playing with Odyn's Fury so if you want to have a different experience 🙂

coarse nest
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Hold CDs for the amp

dusty cove
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Is ascendance weapon BIS all tier? Or do we eventually go to double lining and two mythic weapons?

vagrant mural
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have a quick question, havent played warrior in a long time, im with slayer hero talents, currently with 2set when should i press my sudden deaths on 1 stack or 2 stacks. also as a 687is ilvl is it normal to do dps as a 712 warrior tank? and will my dps a lot more up with 4 set (cuz i can spend the catalist to get the other 2 items)

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(raid env)

rocky locust
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What tips, tricks, or advice would you give someone trying Slayer for the first time in Mythic+? I've used Slayer lots in raids, but never in Mythic+. And don't reply with just reap

warm wharf
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Should I be pressing execute every time the weakaura procs or should i still prio RB?

warm wharf
# olive wraith Press when wa

ok but i feel like it procs all the time and the other warrior in the guild is just spamming RB and ignoring it and outdpsing me

olive wraith
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In raid?

warm wharf
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yeh

dusty cove
olive wraith
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There’s probably other factors

warm wharf
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i'm left side

olive wraith
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Drop the log

warm wharf
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can i dm u

lucid carbon
olive wraith
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I’m not a raider

vagrant mural
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have a quick question, havent played warrior in a long time, im with slayer hero talents, currently with 2set when should i press my sudden deaths on 1 stack or 2 stacks. also as a 687is ilvl is it normal to do dps as a 712 warrior tank? and will my dps go a lot more up with 4 set (cuz i can spend the catalist to get the other 2 items)
(raid env)

olive wraith
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Yes send exe with 2 stacks of sudden death

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Or 2 stacks of mfe

young swan
sand hatch
lucid carbon
glad coyote
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any of yall use the addon skyfury?

pallid hull
olive wraith
glad coyote
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some addon that a tank posted in que with a live link

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never heard of it before

young swan
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i stopped using it when it spammed chat doing self promo

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pretty cool concept

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but holy fuck what an obnoxious way to promote

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screams "overwolf" to me

plucky patio
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Do we still macro recklessness->avatar? I remember in dragonflight the order mattered so i just wanna make sure

olive wraith
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You can

young swan
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well

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order DOES matter but its the normal reck -> ava

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not the other way around

high lagoon
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guys should i be using execute every sudden death proc or wait for 2+ marked for execution

young swan
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get the weakaura thats been linked here, there and everywhere

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and press it when the weakaura does the weakaura thing

modest condor
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some people just dont want to time keys man

high lagoon
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whenever it lights up i cast execute even if 1 stack of marked for execution, was my question

vale dove
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Does screams trinket have a special interaction on loomithar i guess because of the 50% damage amp causing it to do such high damage in parses

lucid carbon
high lagoon
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thank you so muchhh

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❤️

vagrant mural
lucid carbon
lucid carbon
trail bane
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Yo, this is probably the wrong discord to ask this but ill give it a shot. Any of you fine people got like a raidplan or something for M Saladman for where to aim the boss to spawn the Starkiller swings in good positions?

quiet breach
olive wraith
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@warm wharf you’re actually parsing higher then me lmao. But I guess one thing you might consider is you have lower ilvl on a few of the important gear pieces

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Off hand/ and I think your screams was 704?

warm wharf
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my screams is 710

olive wraith
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Also. Afaik screams loses value on shorter fights

warm wharf
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and i haven't been able to get a myth weapon because vault is garbage and i was benched for araz

olive wraith
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Oops my b I saw the ring ilvl

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No totally unlucky that’s not on you

warm wharf
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i still haven't used any crests this week but that's not gonna fix much

heavy folio
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do you guys think siegebreaker was a good button?

warm wharf
olive wraith
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Def don’t think I’m qualified to analyze your log though

warm wharf
olive wraith
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I mean your log wasn’t even bad. So idk bud

fringe anchor
warm wharf
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last 20 i applied to were ultra rude and told me to fuck off

balmy shore
warm wharf
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i also just came back from a 2 year break so they told me my BFA/SL logs don't matter and also told me to fuck off

young swan
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BFA logs dont really matter but SL should still have some weight

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the game got a lot harder in the past 2 xpacs tho

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especially in nerubar

warm wharf
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i quit mid sepulcher in SL

fringe anchor
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everyone hated on BfA but i miss it a lot 😄

warm wharf
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finally got dragged in to play again after 2 full years but my "playing" has been 90% bench and m+ with pugs rather than guild play

young swan
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dont think i would ever say I miss bfa

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but EP fury was fun

warm wharf
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EP was the only tier i tried to raid on something that wasn't warrior and guild went 6/8

young swan
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rough

fringe anchor
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i had legendary/artifact logs on everything for the first half I really enjoyed it lol

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i think it's because it's the first time i got into m+ though

warm wharf
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idk man i think i was pretty clear to my guild recruiter when i said "i don't care what class i play as long as i play"

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and today i got hit with the "don't worry we'll take you on reclears"

olive wraith
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It kinda sounds like a shitty guild

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Another reason I think I’ll just never mythic raid

frank dawn
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mythic raid is awful except in like maybe 10% of cases where everything aligns to make it not awful lol

young swan
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🙋‍♂️

warm wharf
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guild hasn't stopped recruiting with a current roster of 26 players

young swan
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leave

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find another guild

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be more strict with where u apply

warm wharf
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who the fuck would take a benchwarmer warrior

young swan
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they dont care if ur benched

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they care if ur good enough to raid there

hallow sphinx
dire vigil
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I took a look. Your guild is about world 550. You’re probably best off taking a step back in world rank to get playing time, get some good mythic logs on there, and then move back up

warm wharf
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my logs are a 61 on plexus and a 49 on soulbinder, i haven't been allowed to play anything else so far

young swan
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cheater

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i had to play in predo intern with 5 million padders

dire vigil
light tapir
warm wharf
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i get bombed on dimmy by trolls every time

dire vigil
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Can’t be an “everyone else” issue. You gotta just figure it out

warm wharf
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legit have 2-3 people griefing me with pools on purpose

dire vigil
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You got leap, defensive stance, spell reflect, health pot, lock rock, gotta just play safer and lock in

warm wharf
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i'm deadass standing still in the corner and two people walk ontop of me for no reason

frank dawn
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call them out

crude mica
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Even with pool on you, you can keep dpsing while moving

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Fury is nice that you cleave 360 so you don’t even peel from the boss

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Unless your assigned to help the back add of course

warm wharf
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dude i don't have the reaction time to survive getting last second jumped by my own raid

warm crag
modest condor
dire vigil
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If you’re helping back add as melee time to tell the ranged dps to pull their weight

crude mica
warm wharf
warm crag
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why would you hit them you have ranged spread cleavers

crude mica
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Yeah it should not be a thing but I’ve seen it

warm crag
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or ranged in general

warm wharf
dire vigil
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Also heroic adds die before my bladestorm even finishes lol

warm crag
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you are not killing that boss if you dont

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i assume this is hc where the adds explode anyways

dire vigil
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@warm wharf just go find a new guild and prioritize living and doing some good dam while not playing like a goofball and work your way back up

warm wharf
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either way i don't really know how to go about finding a different guild atm because mid tier swapping with only the puggable bosses killed is aids

dire vigil
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Raider.io and look for guilds recruiting melee dps

warm crag
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ask friends technology is broken

frank dawn
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what someone else said earlier you either just have to stick it out and hope you get playtime or look for a lower ranked guild to get better logs and experience on some of the bosses at least

warm wharf
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the hell man

warm crag
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you should most certainly not stick it out in a guild you do not enjoy playing in

limber oar
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And we’re progging mythic NK rn

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So im sure youll find somewhere

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Just hit up recruitment discord snd see who’s looking

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Put your name up, get active

crude mica
dire vigil
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Yeah you’re gonna have to be a little bit of a culture hire with your current logs but just put your head down and grind

warm wharf
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either way i'm gonna need someone to log review my shit and tell me how RB spammer is doing more than execute WA follower

olive wraith
#

The more yall talk the more im convinced m+ is the better end game

limber oar
dire vigil
#

I didn’t

limber oar
#

“Culture hire” is nasty work

dire vigil
#

But his mythic logs are short and not that good right now with limited kills

limber oar
#

Ya but you dint have to say it like that just say “get out there and find some fun people to play with”

dire vigil
#

But all it takes is one good kill pull to fix it, so go have a good interview with the officers and they’ll take you for your likability

limber oar
#

Brother clesrly already feels bad

young swan
#

sometimes people need to be told they suck

lapis shadow
#

What if you wanted to log 90+ on fractillus but your DH, your other DH said "Nah we aint letting that happen"

#

💔

dire vigil
#

I didn’t say he sucked, his logs have no weight right now! He’s gotten 2 bosses down and has 4 total kills on the season!

#

If he was grey parsing after 4 reclears then yeah the play needs work, but he’s gonna have to interview well to get in some playing time, which is what he is prioritizing

coarse nest
#

You have to do what all the rest of us did, know someone who can get you into a CE guild or guild hop your way up to a CE guild while farming the best logs you can along the way

#

There is no other way to do it

olive wraith
#

Can someone nepo hire him

warm wharf
#

my blue log the boss went into intermission at fucking 40m hp

storm birch
#

finally fixed these 3 up last night. Now i need to figure out how to fix araz when he dies before last adds even spawn D:

warm wharf
#

i know several people in CE guilds but they won't even look at my application unless pink log

arctic copper
limber oar
#

And now id like to think im much more deserving of my spot and have grown but it took a couple people believing in me to not suck complete ass

winter shoal
#

I had good logs and still had trouble getting a guild late last season, I think the whole guild app/interview/trial process just kinda blows no matter what

#

Just gotta shoot your shot ig

coarse nest
arctic copper
#

Yeah HoF is way different than CE

young swan
#

i mena

limber oar
#

Bro my guild was battling for CE and they took my ass with 2 blue parses and a grey sikran

young swan
#

not really

limber oar
#

Youll be ok

arctic copper
#

You don't even need mythic logs to get into a CE guild

young swan
#

hof is really not as impressive as people seem to think

limber oar
#

I died charging into a pudfle

#

It was a different time

warm wharf
young swan
#

you would be shocked at the sheer number of dogshit guilds that get it purely by raiding a lot

coarse nest
#

Blunt truth is, lower your standards until you earn your “stripes.” That’s just the way it is. Nobody wants their time wasted and that’s why guilds vet applicants

limber oar
#

I had been playing the game for sub 1 month dont flame me

arctic copper
dire vigil
warm wharf
#

eh just getting CE with current turbo boost shit and overgearing it is kinda weird ngl

winter shoal
#

beggars can't be choosers innit

dire vigil
#

Turbo boost cheapened CE for sure and definitely made m+ the true PVM endgame sadge

arctic copper
#

Yeah with turbo boost you can get CE in one night progression guild

coarse nest
winter shoal
#

Part of it was also Gally being a turbo piss boss

warm wharf
#

well i earned my CE on Jaina, N'zoth and Sylvannas

limber oar
#

🤷

dire vigil
#

You’ll be goated in no time

warm wharf
#

my muscle memory fucking presses bloodthirst in slayer

dire vigil
#

Yeah that’s the issue

#

That’s like right above whirlwind in the prio

limber oar
#

Hit a target dummy for an hour?

warm wharf
#

i've mostly filtered it out now but still

dire vigil
#

A few basic rules:

Stay enraged
Hit RB unless SD conditions
Rampage >=115 rage

warm wharf
#

muscle memory when you're supposed to ignore some buttons now is not a good thing

dire vigil
#

Also, big thing: after bladestorm, completely exhaust your raging blow charges before rampaging

olive wraith
#

Than slam

dire vigil
#

shudders in slam

warm wharf
#

using slam in 2025 is wild

limber oar
#

If you have slam bound

#

Seek help

dire vigil
#

Lmao

coarse nest
#

#showtooltip slam
/cast whirlwind

#

Thank me later

olive wraith
#

Rip anni

warm wharf
coarse nest
chilly fractal
#

If you do this without killing yourself you can do anything

dire vigil
analog kite
#

should i bring my warrior back out to play?

#

havent played since last season

warm wharf
dire vigil
#

Side note:

Anyone who says fury is “easy” has never played FDK

analog kite
warm wharf
#

my cousin plays fdk and meta slaves and calls everyone else shit for not being able to outdps him

dire vigil
#

Fury is simple, but I would say the APM and quick reaction needed to be a competitive warrior is not “easy” when compared to playing any other class that is deemed more difficult

frank dawn
#

Fury is more fun than FDK imo, but hard to argue that FDK isn't just better than us for the most part lol

young swan
dire vigil
#

FDK scythes carry

#

I love that shit

olive wraith
#

But scythes do feel good

frank dawn
#

but this is the best that Fury has been maybe ever, and it's pretty fun too

warm wharf
#

either way i'm gonna have to wait on a log review to improve before i can really go for any guild applications

analog kite
warm crag
#

i was thinking of making a dk just because the scythe procs look so fucking cool

dire vigil
#

I hope they make this reap change our Apex talent

#

To completely solve our AOE predicament

young swan
frank dawn
#

eh, there are 100s of ways to fix aoe

analog kite
#

fdk would be fine, if BOS wasnt the go to

olive wraith
frank dawn
#

this is a fine set bonus and bandaid for now, but I"m not sure I want it core

analog kite
dire vigil
#

It’s been years and they haven’t fixed it and this is the best version of fury for a long long time, so I say keep it

warm crag
wicked flicker
#

has anyone's m+ score randomly gone up in-game but not on the website?

dire vigil
#

We’re objectively badass now, so commit to it, imo

coarse nest
olive wraith
#

For sure. Reap spam and tb resetting def make both hero trees feel good for aoe

warm crag
#

they have shown themselves wholly uncapable of making fury stand out in 5 target cleave so vaguely uncapping it is the only thing they can do to fix it lmao

vernal laurel
frank dawn
#

must be some timer hotfix going out or something

coarse nest
#

Interesting wonder if they made a timer longer and haven’t announced it yet?

young swan
dire vigil
#

Hell even go one step further and funnel reap the storm damage into your primary target that you mark with bloodthirst or something like Havoc does with the glaive

coarse nest
#

Can’t imagine which dungeon they all have felt pretty good on time lately

young swan
#

although i still dont know if I want it baseline or for them to just go a diff direction with each

frank dawn
young swan
#

assuming those are the options

warm crag
young swan
#

cause i feel like using either of those things hard locks in their direction

young swan
warm wharf
frank dawn
warm crag
#

its certainly the best thing theyve done for fury in recent time

coarse nest
#

Being the funnel guy sounds cool until your pug tank refuses to drag adds onto bosses

olive wraith
#

stop giving rb more power

young swan
#

anything that operates off of "spell that can be pressed infinitely" so much that it takes over the rotation is fucking dogshit

coarse nest
#

Think current reap is perfect

olive wraith
#

Move some power into slayer exe

young swan
#

but its fun for now

#

and thats good enough

frank dawn
#

reap and everything works very well right now

warm crag
#

oh sure it certainly doesnt have to be press rb only but the concept of hit these 5 adds and splash onto everything else needs to be pursued furhter

young swan
#

definitely

frank dawn
#

but they can, and should, do better moving into the expansion

warm crag
#

thinking of molten strike in poe now for some reason lmao

warm crag
#

i finally hit my desired score of 2.8k. now i can rest easy knowing i truely beat m+ 💯 💯 💯

lofty delta
#

i randomly got 40 rating out of nowhere

#

i think blizz changed something in the backend

frank dawn
#

whirlwind now causes your attacks to cause projectiles to explode around your targets and return to you after a short period of time

olive wraith
#

What a random place to stop lol

frank dawn
#

the visuals will be fine, no worries

lofty delta
warm crag
olive wraith
bitter palm
warm crag
young swan
#

i think im chilling at 3200 until turbo boost comes out

warm crag
#

i want to press execute and execute hits like a truck

olive wraith
#

My Rio didn’t jump

warm crag
#

literally impossible with sd

bitter palm
#

cant when sd procs every 2 miliseconds

olive wraith
#

Ban all the accounts with added Rio

young swan
olive wraith
young swan
#

i want something that trucks too

warm crag
#

SD as a talent needs to just go or be insanely rare

#

like 1ppm

young swan
#

it should be like once every 30 seconds or so

#

imo

frank dawn
#

ehhh, idk if I agree with that. I think the baseline proc rate is fine

bitter palm
#

remove it

#

move exe to 20%

#

gg

coarse nest
#

Resil 15s is the chill spot to be until turbo boost

#

Do like 18s once boost happens

bitter palm
#

if last 20% is worthless u never play in raid

fallen pawn
#

yo guys, tip to help me increase my dps overall?

#

idk what i did wrong

warm crag
#

idk hunters should never be better execute than any warrior spec

fallen pawn
#

or if i do something wrong

young swan
#

get better gear

limber oar
fallen pawn
#

cant man idk why, reap didnt proc how i want

frank dawn
supple perch
coarse nest
#

Yapusi good

warm crag
#

oopsie

coarse nest
bitter palm
#

imgur solves it all

fallen pawn
#

=)))

#

did i need to focus more on the bladestorm stacks? or what shoudld i do

young swan
#

its literally impossible to tell from a details damage breakdown

#

unless if you have a vod from your key no one will be able to help you

#

cause ur damage breakdown looks fine

fallen pawn
#

so how can i explain it to you more propely, i always use all 4 stacks of ww , execute on 2 stacks and send cd togheter

#

but reap didn proc

#

that good

#

thats my issue

fading sky
#

?

#

Did u press rb

fallen pawn
#

ye

young swan
#

yeah but ur reap damage looks fine

coarse nest
#

Do you stand in a way that ensures you are hitting as many targets as you can?

fading sky
#

Press it again

coarse nest
#

Do you have cooldowns on the “big pulls”

fading sky
#

Rb reap no procc, rb again

fallen pawn
#

ye

coarse nest
#

All we can do is guess

young swan
#

as I said

#

unless if you have a vod from your key

fallen pawn
young swan
#

not possible to help

fallen pawn
#

i didnt have :((((

fading sky
#

Lol

#

Ya reap did more than rb

#

So u had enuff reap procs

young swan
#

just make sure u have BS available for every pack and stand in a place that ensures you hit as many things as possible

fading sky
#

Whats ya enrage uptime

young swan
#

get more gear

fading sky
#

Also in 14 u should get 2 bs per pack

fallen pawn
#

81

fallen pawn
rigid stirrup
#

anyone else M+ rating inflated rn? I just jumped 40 points logging in

coarse nest
#

Yes hotfix

valid tree
#

Been sitting and breaking down topp 10 warriors on singeltarget. like its 50/50 if they bother to buff their enrage afther their BS. how much dps loss is it not doing it?

lusty jungle
#

joining a pug only to be informed its a guild running loot council after plexus kill fml

lusty jungle
#

ye thats what i said, i was hostage for 3 hours and he was like "nobody has complained before"

#

im like idc its fucken scam

coarse nest
#

Fuck that, I’d roll anyway you didn’t agree to that and it wasn’t specified

#

You only get one lockout and them doing that is degenerate

lusty jungle
#

ye best part is he asks me if i wanna join their guild after they give soulbinder belt to a tank when im only fury in raid

rigid stirrup
#

loot council while recruiting pugs keksquad

analog kite
#

yeah unistall RC Loot councin and ninja loot everything

lusty jungle
#

should've tbh

coarse nest
#

I mean only roll on what you actually need don’t be a tool about it

lusty jungle
#

XDDDDDD

#

didnt inform me because "most have compiled all good with it"

analog kite
#

that just means he wants the extra loot but the pug gets nothing

lusty jungle
#

exactly

#

holy shit they were a bunch of shitters running lc as 2/8 guild who the f runs lc when you're a bunch of shitters anyway

analog kite
#

every guild i join, i uninstall RC. if things go well then ill turn it back on. and if its shit then i just ninja loot

inner dagger
#

you must be fun at parties

analog kite
#

guilds will try and trick you, i had this one guild tell me that they had reserved spots on a trinket and didnt let me know until after i rolled and won it

rigid stirrup
#

I mean if its a guild run you're trialing for you're kind of a scum bag for doing that

#

if its a legit pug in group finder fuck em

analog kite
#

but i am a scum bag

lusty jungle
#

Ye it was just pug in lfg

#

He asked me to trial after i called em scammers

#

Unbelievable

analog kite
inner dagger
#

now you have a vault

#

the main reason you pug first 2

#

not the end of the world

#

scum bags exist

#

theres a bigger one typing in this channel

lusty jungle
#

ye i just stayed for the vault, was already hostage after plexus

inner dagger
#

no need to be triggered, this is an ez move on

lusty jungle
#

ofc just funny how these people operate

olive wraith
modest condor
dense elbow
#

Stupid boat bosses with no pad sadge

steel shard
#

i feel like every single class has better

modest condor
#

we didnt kill trash during last boss flight phase either

warm crag
steel shard
warm crag
#

idk surely there is one

#

outlaw or smth

steel shard
#

i think dev evoker that works like

#

the opposite way

olive wraith
#

Colo arms

steel shard
#

well assa execute is what

warm crag
#

dont think giantkiller decaying matters much if their cd uptime is a billion percent

steel shard
#

35% more damage

#

flat

#

arcane mage main ability does 135% more damage

#

tbh does fury even have execute

smoky vale
steel shard
#

legion classic when

olive wraith
#

And it existed in Df s3

steel shard
#

it´s just a proc now

#

not like it changes below 20%

#

idk how much of a sim gain is it during execute

olive wraith
#

You press it more sub 20%

steel shard
#

2%? xd

warm crag
#

it looks Very Funny

dense elbow
#

Play VC for the real exe dam add for Fury okayge

steel shard
#

man fury really got hit dirty after the nerub palace incident

#

From giga spiky to flat

#

kinda funny how it went

dense elbow
#

Flat is what team flat wants

#

Us team burst lost

#

It is what it is

#

It's over

fading sky
#

Team burst play fdk

#

Or mm

#

Sub

#

Elly?

olive wraith
#

20 other dps classes

steel shard
#

tbh fdk is just

#

better warrior

fading sky
#

Yu

#

P

dense elbow
#

Nah, we got better flat dam profile

#

Also we got a real raid buff

steel shard
#

yea well

#

prot warr is strong

#

therefore it nerfs dps warrior

dense elbow
#

That isn't how that works... danderson
But, you are in team burst, so I will agree with you

steel shard
#

No i am in team

#

legion warrior

#

design

olive wraith
#

But both slayer and thane are pretty fun right now

#

Slayers even good

dense elbow
#

It's enjoyable, but a bit stale. Got no ompfh

#

No moment of glory

#

It's just fine

steel shard
#

pressing avatar does nothing

#

feels like nothing

#

bladestorm is just to apply the debuff

#

why cant odyns fury hit hard

#

idk

olive wraith
steel shard
#

huh

dense elbow
#

It does, if you look at it from the view of a certain crowd. It is so much stronger than heroic throw after all

olive wraith
steel shard
#

it felt really good to press in legion

dense elbow
#

I am in permanent heartache

frank dawn
#

Everyone loves OF, blizzard just hates it

steel shard
#

now it just a glorified WW refresher

dense elbow
#

Yep

steel shard
#

soft capped to 5

#

like why

dense elbow
#

Who knows

steel shard
#

are not most classes if not all atleast softcapped to 8

#

Like how gimped this fury burst become after palace

inner dagger
#

this is starting to sound like the ret discord

steel shard
#

It´s like they have a vendetta

olive wraith
#

I mean isn’t most of the damage the bleed anyways

inner dagger
#

what happened

#

you all fell off

steel shard
#

I am not saying fury is bad

dense elbow
olive wraith
#

I mean even before I was sure it was majority bleed

steel shard
#

it´s pretty good rn

#

idk you had those

#

talents on the wep that made it have 2 bleeds

#

1 fire 1 shadow if i rem

dense elbow
#

Fury is good atm, it plays fine and is fun enough for most.

It is just a bit... Flat.

That is all

fading sky
#

Yuo

#

Cds not being cd

#

Feels weird

frank dawn
#

fury has no big dopamine moments, but it's fun and still pretty good

fading sky
#

Reap is

#

But ye

sullen dove
#

5 reaps in a row pretty big dopa

#

best it’s felt in m+ like ever

olive wraith
#

I mean tb is as well

upbeat blade
#

Biggest dopamine hit on single target is using wrecking throw on first boss and seeing it crit

sullen dove
#

yea cuz it’s rarer mostly but thane deadge

olive wraith
sullen dove
#

I don’t think wrecking ever crits

frank dawn
upbeat blade
#

Wow the procs can vary its damage that much, that's insane

sullen dove
#

It’s a pretty consistent like 12-15mil ish damage to absorb

#

But like psure buffs affect it

upbeat blade
#

I swear there's a 10m swing in how much damage I've seen it so

sullen dove
#

Like Ava maybe gives a 20% buff

#

not sure if enrage does

brittle folio
#

Hi everybody, new (returning) player here.

I have a question about stances, Im assuming for dps I should be on berserker stance but I find no info about them on guides.

Berserker stance says it only increases my auto attack damage by 15%?

While defense stance says 10% increase on all damages. which sounds so much better.

Am I misunderstanding something? or are the procs based on auto attack damage? or should I just go defense stance?

dense elbow
olive wraith
sullen dove
#

should be uh… clear yea

brittle folio
#

Didnt think itd reduce damage... thx

dense elbow
#

Happens

devout apex
#

did anyone else get a sudden adjustment to their M+ score? i was at 3368 now im at 3406 without doing anything. looks like they did increased score gain from keys by 3points ish for every dungeon

steel shard
#

yes

olive wraith
#

Check the news channel

sullen dove
#

When they change key timers that can happen

steel shard
#

lirly just now

sullen dove
#

Idr when that happened

#

Or just a bug fix idk

#

may be a one off

#

But that’ll always happen when timers are adjusted

dense elbow
#

A blizz Dev was hard stuck at 2995

#

They fixed that

devout apex
#

oh i see it, the wowhead thing didnt pop up immediately for me

analog kite
#

blizz devs dont play their own games, thats hilarious

valid radish
#

Hey guys for a comeback player wich build should o look to farm m+ until i get the tier sets? Same Slayer Fury?

steel shard
#

prot

valid radish
iron portal
olive wraith
sullen dove
#

and after tier

whole remnant
#

@smoky vale can you stop aggrandizing

plush zephyr
#

Ain’t no fucking way they know what that means

sullen dove
#

ain’t that the boss that drops the cool sword

smoky vale
whole remnant
plush zephyr
maiden valley
#

on nexus-king, is netherblast reflectable or deflectable?

modest condor
#

how did bm not get nerfed yet

frank dawn
#

imagine thinking the devs still care about this season

inner dagger
#

was a fun key to watch

frank dawn
#

that is some blasting tho, what key was it lol

inner dagger
#

ara 20

frank dawn
#

oof

inner dagger
#

they did like 104% trash like gigachads

modest condor
#

tbh

#

i feel like people try way too hard to get exactly 100% count

#

you could easily go like 5% over and still do the same amount of pulls

olive wraith
#

Sometimes I forget just how bad I am at this game

#

Almost 12m overall

#

Jesus fuck

inner dagger
#

i dont think that applies to people pushing 20s

#

but i get what you mean

modest condor
#

crit did 12mil in his 19 ara im pretty sure

modest condor
#

i mean sometimes people do harder pulls just because it's lower count so they can get as close to the 100% as possibe

inner dagger
#

i think what you said applies to 99% of players

#

we are just watching the 1%

undone flower
#

saladbar really fun fight ngl

livid current
#

how good of a belt do I need to get to replace the titan belt?

whole remnant
#

idk

undone flower
#

a 710 belt sims lower for me

young swan
#

holy shit i got +40 score

#

im sick

#

finally fixed my UI as well

#

pogger

undone flower
#

What is the fix ?

young swan
#

i accidentally deleted it yesterday

#

i took that as an opportunity to get rid of elvui and go back to 1080p for better performance

undone flower
#

I got rid of elvui when I came back in tww bc I was not ready to do it ever again

#

The base one is cool enough + you can have cell if you really don’t like base frames

young swan
#

im just using UUF

#

im stumped on how to make my weakauras not look jank as fuck tho

young swan
#

its pissing me off

clever belfry
#

nice spacing buddy

young swan
#

yes thats whats pissing me off

undone flower
#

Im still on my ship of Theseus luxthos, ill do a proper WA package for next expac

modest condor
clever belfry
#

could be UI scale issue

undone flower
#

Yeah the inconsistent padding looks weird

young swan
#

yeah its really annoying

#

I think I fixed it?

#

just needed to rescale ui xdd

undone flower
#

I couldn’t tell wtf going on with reck

#

You could add a very light transparent background to make the separations more visible for the padding

#

But it can look awful if you are big padding guy

young swan
#

i'll send new screenshot in a sec

#

but its been fixed

young swan
hollow leaf
modest condor
#

imagine trying to line up everything

sour tundra
#

wait what was bugged about io score? All of a sudden I see people posting that they got WAY higher score just from logging on

hollow leaf
hollow leaf
undone flower
#

Imagine moving WAs with the position tab and not by dragging it clueless

thick fossil
hollow leaf
#

I haven't seen any ptr notes though

young swan
hollow leaf
#

oh nevermind

olive wraith
#

That should bring me close to 3300

#

Woo

trim hound
#

Yup, logged in and got 3k. Now that's gaming 🤣

undone flower
#

Blizzard making my rio near 3400 so I feel the need to do keys again

clever belfry
olive wraith
#

Do we have to log in for the io increase

hollow leaf
#

no idea check your rio ig

olive wraith
#

Oh nope. Bot says I’m upgraded

languid willow
#

Damn one more key puts me at 3500 now

modest condor
#

gamer

young swan
#

yuge

hardy wadi
#

guys is m+ buggy? i just timed eco +11 and got 40 points.... but i already timed +14 lol sooo its buggy for some reason

#

really weird

chilly fractal
#

makes me chuckle that in the Turbo Boost on PTR the crafting item that adds 6 ilvls is adding 7 instead... wonder if that's intended since the 2 extra tracks is adding 7 ilvls instead of 6 too

lucid carbon
hardy wadi
#

ohhhh

lucid carbon
hardy wadi
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does that mean i need to redoo all +12

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so i get those points?

hardy cargo
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no

lucid carbon
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no no

undone flower
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It was around 40 points for me too

hardy wadi
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i understand now thanks

chilly fractal
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it makes sense... getting 3k took more 13s than last season but all the point values prior to 12s looked similar to last season iirc

restive peak
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Broke 3500 then without any effort we ball uncontrollably

restive peak
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Worship me (I am very mid these days)

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olive wraith
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Didn't see any comments about it here, but is the Spell Reflect Essentials S3 WA not working for anyone else?

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Pretty sure I have the latest version of WA but getting this error and not able to import

lucid carbon
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maybe you need to update your addon on curseforge?!

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Yeah, I keep my addons updated with Wowup which has been pretty good, but wonder if something got screwy there

chilly fractal
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I've updated my Warcraft Recorder Chat Overlay to be the Reaptech gif

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next week I'll see if it pisses my GM off at all

nimble sphinx
earnest canyon
young swan
chilly fractal
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helps with viewing POVs after wipes including reviewing my own

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and also helps with making kill videos since you can just download multiple POVs and smash em together

olive wraith
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Pog I was looking for a screen record thing

earnest canyon
earnest canyon
chilly fractal
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one of the officers in my guild is paying for the "pro" version so I'm using it

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although I think it only costs like $5

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but w/e

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game runs fine while it's recording

olive wraith
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Be gentle I’m a dumb man

alpine palm
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nvidia proprietary screen capture

earnest canyon
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Nvidia proprietary tech to record game footage using nvenc

lavish sierra
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sometimes I see a double charge on people's logs, what's that about

earnest canyon
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chilly fractal
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that's nice

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and cloud storage

earnest canyon
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not for you.....
GM: MOBBO U NOBBO, STOP DYING

obsidian dagger
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Hey guys. I find that when I rampage -> bladestorm i am already over 115 rage by the time bladestorm ends. Should I immediately rampage or should i raging blow at all for slaughtering strikes even though i'm >115 rage?

olive wraith
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It’s the one time we actively ignore rage cap

obsidian dagger
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Thanks. Is there a limit? If I keep getting procs do i keep raging blow'ing? Engage running out is limit i guess?

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Enrage*

obsidian dagger
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Awesome. Thanks

olive wraith
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Keep in mind exe conditionals are higher prio than rb

earnest canyon
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man with this RIO bug, i jumped to 2982 rating now....if I can just get some idiotsNice People to carry my lame ass do one more 13 ill hit 3k

balmy shore
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whats the rio bug

earnest canyon
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I think 12s and above werent giving the right score

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so I was missing 5 rating off all the keys I did above an 11

earnest canyon
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It gave me like 40 RIO

balmy shore
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oh i have not been paying attention to my io

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hmmm

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i don't remember where i was yesterday

earnest canyon
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i hadnt till I decided to get 3k then ill just do 10s for vault

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# earnest canyon why is it better than Shadowplay that is super high quality and offloads the enc...

shadowplay has a bunch of failure points, loves to randomly shut itself off (like anytime you open what they consider to be a protected video), only records a default of X # of minutes, frequently corrupts or breaks on alt/tab, etc

WCR is obviously more dedicated to WoW, but that gives it a bunch of extra features like auto start/stops on pull/end, hooks into logs, records the actual length of your pull, etc

earnest canyon
modest condor
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yay just had my first trading minigame bug in streets

balmy shore
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warcraft recorder is cool w/ the viewpoints

earnest canyon
modest condor
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well this was about to be an easy 16 in time

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you just pick up the item, move to the place you have to go and use your extra action button

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some mobs spawn, you kill them, pick up the item and move to the next spot and do the same again

earnest canyon
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oh

restive peak
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Bro was just gonna time 17 FG for sure w a pug and healer died to frontal 2nd last pull lol

earnest canyon
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sorry to hear about ur key

modest condor
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aug in 2025

earnest canyon
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what is FG

balmy shore
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floodgate

winter shoal
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fat goonsesh

earnest canyon
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oh ofc lmao

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i just call it flood

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fucking hate that dungeon

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hate the sawblades, hate the leaping mobs that do the purple cone, hate the scaffolding guy, hate the swap monster, hate the 2 boss fight cos they never stay together to cleave....only good part is big momma and the last boss cos he is easy

restive peak
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Cone guy is what fucked our healer twice

restive peak
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That's him, that's the guy

earnest canyon
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he looks like an aggressive, scary bastard

modest condor
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cone guys are the worst

undone flower
modest condor
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at least getting every single disarm and 3 prisons on first boss streets is cool

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what do you mean mechanics, boss is a target dummy

restive peak
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God I hate that shit

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I actually don't mind th edisarm for leap>charge>haste buff

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I hate when you get prison after prison

modest condor
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?

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you spell reflect the disarm and bladestorm the prison

earnest canyon
modest condor
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literally cancel every mechanic

restive peak
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I never save bladestorm, I really did forget that was a mechanic for it lmao

modest condor
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you can use it on pull and then it pretty much lines up with every prison

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if it's not on you just use it to break out the person

restive peak
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True, I actually genuinely just haven't really watched anyone else this tier much and forgot lmao

balmy shore
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o is it worth saving bs

restive peak
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I guess it makes sense you prob lose more dmg in the cell than you ever could gain from 1-2 extra bladestorms, hell even 3-4, and also helps the entire group stay prio on boss

balmy shore
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yea that's fair

summer quail
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meld and then it goes on someone else

balmy shore
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i am gob gang

rocky locust