#fury

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sullen dove
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wreck is giga tho

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big fan of big throw

undone flower
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because it just gives dps

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yeah wreck i like

sullen tendon
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so are you saying you would still use stormbolt even if it did 200 more damage ratherthan 40k

silk wharf
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I unbound throw. I was tired of it proccing effects and having the effect be wasted while I was out of range.

sullen dove
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somebody will

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that is all that matters

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no one gives a fuck if you do or not

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it is up to you

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i dont

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who gaf

olive wraith
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How is this confusing lol

undone flower
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i personnally don't do the stormbolt thing / like i never pressed slam in TWW, it's up to you to follow these

olive wraith
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It’s technically a dps increase end of story.

sullen tendon
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We should develope some kind of test for players who stormbolt during charge and bladestorm

sullen dove
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i mean during charge is def big ww energy

olive wraith
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People chase pink number

sullen dove
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get stacks as you walk into pack with last 1-2 hits of ww

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good for m+

olive wraith
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What can you do

sullen tendon
olive wraith
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The mindset of squeezing every ounce of damage does

sullen tendon
olive wraith
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You do you

sullen tendon
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If you think stormbolt will actually make any kind of difference in your dps it sounds like a self esteem issue

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you dont believe in your warrior spirit enough

olive wraith
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I also don’t parse

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But logically you can’t refute that it does more damage than if you don’t do it

undone flower
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because of me archon is showing 1% massacre on some bosses

modest condor
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reminds me of when i accidentally was specced into seethe so wcl said 1% of warriors were playing seethe back in castle nathria

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i dont even remember what it did, extra damage on bloodthirst or something?

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oh extra rage gen on bt

undone flower
modest condor
undone flower
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he is above me

undone flower
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DONT WATCH WHAT I DO NOOOOO

wispy fog
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Gonna chime in and say I've got top 10 parses and have never pushed stormbolt during bs. Bladestorm is me time for resting the hands for 1-2s rather than squeezing out the teensiest amount of damage

winter shoal
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I don't think almost anyone actually does that

feral ivy
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i do it because i NEED to do somehting

bitter palm
feral ivy
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fract is so boring i need to throw something while doing nothing

winter shoal
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cone do you know about the SR on Salhadaar

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  1. how to do it
  2. if it's removed from logs/details?
bitter palm
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claw sr or

winter shoal
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idk

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I'm sat

bitter palm
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taunt reflect the frontal chatting

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no idea either i remember someone sending a screenshot of doing some damage

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with sr

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claws are reflectable

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deflectable*

winter shoal
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during the damage amp?

wispy fog
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You'll see it spattered throughout the top logs but actually you're right. Clicking through the number of bolters is pretty low prob around 30% of the ones I looked at

winter shoal
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in raid I mean it's technically correct but like

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turbo fake

wispy fog
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Ye agreed

bitter palm
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if someone ints u u can just sr and eat 9000000 claws and take 0 damage

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(deflect all of them)

winter shoal
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If it's just a deflect then who cares deadge

feral ivy
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IF I GET 1 MORE FUCKEN PARRY or miss during raid boss imma freak out

thick fossil
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Yup, fuck Soul Hunters

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Fuck it completely

feral ivy
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i saw "parry" "miss" non stop lol

pearl sequoia
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Dimensius is even more annoying

feral ivy
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im annoyed of this mythic boss and we are like few pulls in

winter shoal
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melee don't do fuck all on that fight except try to live

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unless you're a soul soaker

summer quail
winter shoal
undone flower
winter shoal
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I think if you just rampage over RB (outside of BF and all that) it's only like 0.5% worse

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Maybe less

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I simmed it a while back

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I also rarely play around that

summer quail
undone flower
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the rampage at 115, i try to follow / but usually it's when i see 100-110 i just rampage

winter shoal
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Tbh if you add a check for reck then it's probably even less of a diff

undone flower
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but the : lose enrage then rampage next gcd, i do it very very rarely, i don't think most warriors do it consistently

winter shoal
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Like don't do the 115 rage check during reck

winter shoal
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Or maybe just a sim quirk

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But yeah I think that's another one that people rarely actually play around, it just naturally happens as a result of regular rotation

undone flower
winter shoal
feral ivy
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ooo what boss =0

winter shoal
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soul hunters

feral ivy
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NOICE dmg

undone flower
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very nice indeed

winter shoal
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yeah fury is actually kinda decent on that fight, I'm just fuckin with mutou

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warlocks are obscene on that fight tho

thick fossil
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Not when you have to soak fucking souls

winter shoal
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I do soak souls

analog kite
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Critcakes new name is NoCritcake because stats

undone flower
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i don't ENJOY the fight, but i felt competitive with others

left perch
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Hello FIRY warrior chat

winter shoal
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Fury very powerful soul tanker, can SR + IV every one

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dstance if you need as well

feral ivy
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if u SR the soul will it ignore the dot

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or just reduce dmg

winter shoal
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No but you can SR when the heal absorb happens and you're much less likely to die than other classes

undone flower
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IV just heals off the negative absorb, very good

left perch
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It will behave as if you played good class

feral ivy
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ah kk

winter shoal
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DK and havoc the other two good melee for it

left perch
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To be understood

analog kite
undone flower
winter shoal
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Like 5 seconds after

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I actually died there to the chain pull but the last boss was at like 1.5%

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@summer quail at least soul hunters isn't quite as imbalanced as forgeweaver

winter shoal
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Real and true

bitter palm
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i heard spongus inted hm taza week 1

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any reals

winter shoal
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I'm 2/2 on HM tazzy

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ez game

undone flower
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i fucked up leap today so i had to shame run back to the fight, the RL was watching my pov

undone flower
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soulhunter

winter shoal
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oh like you ran back instead of to the side for fel dev?

undone flower
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no in the middle of a fight, the void dh dash through the room, i move weirdly my camera and quick leap in a random location

winter shoal
undone flower
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out of charge range

winter shoal
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*boss moves*
*leap in the opposite direction*
*record scratch* so you're probably wondering how I got here

undone flower
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it was really the walk of shame

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  • i missed the bs hold on an intermission, i wasn't really proud of that kill
winter shoal
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kill is a kill /shrug

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can always fix it on farm

undone flower
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yeah still happy our first rekill of soulhunter was only 2 pulls

jovial mauve
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man I just played so bad on dimensius, failing charge buffers etc

left perch
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Remember when

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brown

undone flower
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araz is the fight i kinda struggle parsing

winter shoal
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think it's tough to parse well on that fight if your guild isn't being extremely ethical

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need to skip 2nd intermission and eat all the add dam for yourself

undone flower
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i think i can do purple without doing that + keeping my assignements, it's just i play bad around it, it's on me

winter shoal
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Yeah you can purple for sure

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I just mean for a 99

hardy cargo
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yeah we took 2 or 3 ppl off of add dam this week and skipped intermission felt great to pad all by myself basically

winter shoal
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do you guys drop adds behind the black hole happy?

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that's an insane grief for melee

undone flower
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i'm first echo insta swapper + after first intermission soaker

undone flower
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we bump most but 1 or 2 we go behind basically

winter shoal
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Yeah I also have to swap to first echo

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I think the 6th add set we drop behind because it overlaps with the circles

hardy cargo
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theres no more overlap getting targeted with circles plus add drop

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should be able to drop in front perma now

undone flower
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but the soak after the intermission i always pray i'm chosen to drop the adds

winter shoal
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But yeah I think I basically just sent on cd this week and got an 80 so idk

undone flower
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i don't want to leave them to soak keks

winter shoal
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we just have ranged soak that one

undone flower
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i suggested i soak this one, because on prog they had a hard time reaching it (we did only behind add drops the first kill)

winter shoal
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Makes sense

undone flower
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  • im the tanky boy
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nothing can kill me with my 717 ilvl

summer quail
tepid cedar
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18 HoA was crankkkkin

summer quail
undone flower
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Im the one who make people go ST on soulbinder keks

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We don’t have a ww tho

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no i didn’t play massacre on soulbinder

sour tundra
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is this good for keys

cunning condor
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Damn im pulling 15 and 16’s dungeon with war easy,but in raid i always parse bad… I do play with pugs tbh. Even if im top 3 dps my logs will be bad

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😛

winter shoal
cunning condor
winter shoal
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that sounds fine for soulbinder

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antenna might be annoying with the amount of movement

cunning condor
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I dont move with antena ,should i?

winter shoal
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I meant with the amount of movement you're forced to do on soulbinder

cunning condor
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Ahh

winter shoal
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you might miss some orbs because of the boss moving

bitter palm
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no one will ever make me play that dogass trinket

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fuck antenna

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(i dont have it)

cunning condor
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So whats our best trinkets for raid

winter shoal
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How long is a piece of string

bitter palm
winter shoal
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There's no two "best trinkets for raid"

winter shoal
signal steeple
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Digging through my logs to figure out how I jumped from a 92 on Plexus to a 99 all of a sudden 🤨 can't figure it out. Guess I was just sandbagging before?

cunning condor
winter shoal
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If you have specific questions, people are generally happy to answer

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I'm about to go to bed so it probably won't be me

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But there are lots of smart folks in here

edgy widget
cunning condor
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Yeah i sent you my build there,so you just get the idea what i’m running with

edgy widget
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lots of factors

winter shoal
compact knot
winter shoal
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Happened to me on dimmy

compact knot
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unironically i have more uptime in keys than in raid which is strange to me

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but w/e

winter shoal
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Went from like a 90 to a 100 in the middle of the week

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THen back to a 94

signal steeple
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My best guess is better execute RNG, but also did 93 -> 99 on prot today too so dunno

signal steeple
cunning condor
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Just curios how much overall dps you do on first boss?

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In m raid

edgy widget
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oh, WCL validates every day at I think 2400 GMT(?), so it's possible a bunch of people got kills after which changed the average

winter shoal
edgy widget
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e.g. I get a Rank 1 right after reset on Tues evening, then EU get a bunch of kills after their reset, WCL revalidates to make it fair and then my R1 becomes a R10 dracthyr_cry

edgy widget
winter shoal
cunning condor
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I get close to it

winter shoal
cunning condor
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What trinkets should i aim for? The screams of forgotten sky and the trinket from first boss i assume?

edgy widget
winter shoal
edgy widget
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also possible it was a manipulated log, or a PI invalidated one

signal steeple
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Why would padding be removed? That's just called doing the raid

edgy widget
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can't really say without actually looking at it, but it would likely to be something along those lines

winter shoal
cunning condor
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I dislike that people dont get locked when they do a hc raid… I never get loot or drops when doing it

winter shoal
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if the add DOES die, damage towards that add is counted

signal steeple
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That's weird

signal steeple
cunning condor
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Like u kill a desired boss and get basically no loot because of this,then wait for entire week for same thing lol

edgy widget
signal steeple
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Having lockouts gives only one try to easy mythic bosses. And the list of those bosses gets longer as the tier goes on.

edgy widget
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I mean Mythic is meant to be an organized activity, that's why it has a strict requirement of 20 players, rather than flexible like others

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the fact that it can be pugged isn't a bad thing, but's not explicitly designed to be pugged either

lean heart
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holy moly

signal steeple
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Congrats!

chilly fractal
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Nice

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My guild saw the end of the fight tonight, hopefully goes down next week

edgy widget
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fight is a shit show, but it's not really as hard as it looks

lean heart
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it really isnt that hard but it is a shitshow youre right keks

undone flower
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I maybe would have played antenna if I had it and didn’t forget about my trinkets

compact knot
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honestly people ask so much about trinkets for like m+ and raid fights

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and 99% of the time that doesnt matter

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but control what you can i guess, just focused on the wrong thing

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rotation and cd timings are far more important

undone flower
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I have plenty of trinkets in the bag / not antenna, and many of them I think are good on the fight, yes I don’t think down the line it really matter

compact knot
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a on use would be good for soulbinder

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only good one is idol though

undone flower
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Since 99% of what matters is : you bladestorm the canisters

compact knot
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maybe ritual forge actually

undone flower
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And you can scrap some dps like switch target to have an amped add as main, and DO NOT PRESS ROAR on these

compact knot
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i play odyns on it

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troar the boss

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odyns into bladestorm the adds then spam raging blow

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im the only odyns user in the top 100

undone flower
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I don’t give much thought tbf, I went in with the talents I use on the trashs

compact knot
undone flower
signal steeple
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Lmao this guy uses odyn's

compact knot
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?

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odyns is good broski

signal steeple
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O I am laffing

compact knot
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think its underrated as fuck

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i see

edgy widget
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you can def run odyns, especially if your group is making big add plays

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don't think it adds much of anything for the little breaks though

undone flower
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Odyns kinda good for aoe but i don’t believe you have enough GCDs on the canisters adds / it will compensate with the big middle fiesta

compact knot
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im just the biggest fan of the quality of life it brings

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ww stacks + enrages you

edgy widget
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I agree, that's the only thing I like it for

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and i think it fits really well in that role; just amping its damage makes it another TRoar, another Bladestorm, all competing with one another

winter vortex
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What should the ideal dmg breakdown look like after a +15 key? Am i doing something wrong if reap the storm is my top dmg ability

compact knot
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typically raging blow/reap the storm are top though

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streets my raging blow is typically the highest because its a lot of smaller pulls and bosses

undone flower
winter vortex
compact knot
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in my opinion

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it doesnt

undone flower
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Tbf I like the QoL but it doesn’t make sense to me it’s not just baseline to OF

compact knot
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i still have very similar enrage uptime, so its really only a 2% mastery loss

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and i can drop bloodcraze and cshb

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2 useless ass talents

undone flower
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Have you tried the 2 haste drop talents for it ?

compact knot
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you cant

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because you would need to drop something for bloodcraze

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and there isnt really a good thing to drop for bloodcraze

undone flower
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You keep 2 points in mastery and 2 points critical thinking, you can path to middle capstone through them, I don’t play OF as much, but I wanted to try a key like that

compact knot
undone flower
compact knot
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you cant pick up bladestorm

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in a perfect world you could drop hack and slash and go for cshb and bleed

undone flower
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Oh yes it’s 1 point short

compact knot
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but you cant since hack and slash is too important now

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noting is worth it to drop

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its this in raid

undone flower
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I always say I wish OF and onslaught were swapped position

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Unless they plan to do something about onslaught

compact knot
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agreed

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odyns would actually probably be taken in aoe if they swapped spots

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lmao

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bloodborne would make it good asf

undone flower
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But I see why they put onlsaught left and OF right, to cross our AoE left (when BT was our AoE basically) with ST capstone to balance the tree / my belief is onlsaught goal was to be a ST thing

compact knot
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onslaught fit in well when we where more balanced

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its almost never been used when raging blow or bloodthirst have been heavily favored

surreal dew
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is it worth it to make both weps 720 with sparks? or just do 720 mh and 710 oh and craft other items

compact knot
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IE season 2

compact knot
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like you would be dropping 120 sparks on 2 weapons

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er

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120 crests

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if you get a myth wep from vault or raid or hm tazavesh

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you can instantly upgrade it to 720 then 723 for 15 crests

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so only 75 crests for 2 weapons instead of 120

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plus when you eventually get a myth mainhand, itll be a extra 15 crests

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so 75 crests > 135 crests imo

surreal dew
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kk keep the 720 1 and go 710 and hope for vault myth item

undone flower
compact knot
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plus you could craft in a better slot

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like offpiece/belt

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i wouldnt do that if you have myth slots already though

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esp myth slots you can upgrade with crests

surreal dew
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currently i was thinking of going bracers with writhing and asc and a ring since im over the top on haste since my current ring gives 5.5k

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got 23.5k haste rn

compact knot
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ring is a pretty good craft ngl

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atleast imo

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good rings come from m+, fury isnt a big fan of rings that are favored heavily towards 1 stat unless its mastery (rings like those appear in raid right now)

undone flower
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Ring is a very safe craft if you have 2 hero ring

compact knot
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yea

undone flower
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It is unlikely you see your favored stats rings in your vaults soon twice / or that you pick them over big budget slot

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Neck was a good one too in S2 because only 2 neck in the vault lootable m+ row

opaque trout
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how much do y'all prioritize avoidance?

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i have currently have 3%, my vault is either a mythic belt (first mythic track gear) or hero ring that would take me to ~5% avoidance

modest condor
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i would not take a hero track item from the vault no matter what tertiaries it has

sudden tusk
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avoidance is a high M+ stat nothing else

undone flower
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What about speed

opaque trout
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im fast af

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i mostly mythic+ but i'll probably go with the belt

undone flower
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And high m+ people find their avoidance gear with raid BOEs

opaque trout
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oh thats good to know

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i've only gotten to 2.5k

undone flower
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It’s not just for consumables they boost keys

cunning condor
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is single target build good for soulbinder or should i stick with cleave

iron portal
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Lfr and normal you can ST

sudden tusk
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we lose basically nothing to take cleave talents

iron portal
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Heroic and mythic you really shouldnt go without cleave

sullen dove
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funny boss

edgy widget
timid forge
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how's this breakdown look for slayer ? its a prio 12 and i want to make sure im using the right priority. should reap be top ?

limber oar
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V cute of us

timid forge
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ok cool ive been mainly colossus in keys and if i did swap it was always thane, ive been having low reap overall so i think im finally getting the hang of it

limber oar
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Raging blow will eek ahead in dungeons where the packs have lower count

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But both should be 1/2 and close-ish in dmg

rocky locust
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What does your opener on Dimensius look like? I always find it so awkward because I'm too close to Charge when I land.

strong ridge
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or dungeons with hp sponge bosses

smoky vale
smoky vale
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🙂

slow carbon
iron portal
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^

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Same

hardy cargo
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personally i ww as im running out but yeah

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take a few steps back ww -> cds -> charge

brittle crow
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this is the way

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ww as you run out since u can't do anything else

smoky vale
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or you pot erw scythe erw pillar bos rm scythe

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@brittle crow do you miss tanking raid

brittle crow
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why do u ask

undone flower
undone flower
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No because it will die during my bladstorm

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Why have ww stacks for ST demensius

brittle crow
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so ur rampage hits the add

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and i can usually get multiple raging blows and a rampage on the add after bs

undone flower
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Nah quicker I’m spinning, the more I’m winning

brittle crow
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i think we're pressing bs on exactly the same global tho lol

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1 unenraged global -> rampage -> bladestorm

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we just have a diff first global

undone flower
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Yes pretty much

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You just 1 more global before the rampage, not like it matters in heroic

brittle crow
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h dimensius is a good parse to have

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gotta pad on that add

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gotta have ww up

undone flower
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Im gonna verify if i actually ww, but i don’t think, i just rb rampage bs from memory

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But no charge shenanigan

brittle crow
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the real aids is when u have stone idol as ur only trinket on that fight

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i just accepted that its gonna be desynced from avatar until phase 2

undone flower
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I did cast a ww but after the bs keks

brittle crow
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fucked

undone flower
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What is wrong with me on demensius heroic, second log I check I cast the ww after the bs

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I just realized that’s what I do since the first kill critcake

compact knot
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if you run odyns you dont have to worry about that

undone flower
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I will run odyn but without the capstone just to make people mad

radiant plank
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just wait till they make odyns our apex talent

signal steeple
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They should just remove bloodthirst entirely

undone flower
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Why

brittle crow
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and id be ok with it

signal steeple
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So we have fewer buttons to press

earnest olive
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Why doesn’t anyone use wrath stone? It seems huge?

undone flower
signal steeple
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Yeah

compact knot
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spec was the best when we didnt use raging blow

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btw

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numbers wise and gameplay wise

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all good though

undone flower
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Don’t touch my S tier ability

compact knot
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well it wasnt great in m+ but

ornate turtle
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Hi, new to tww warrior, i have a question: do we ever wait for Recklessness before pressing bladestorm or do we just bladestorm off cooldown? even with anger management, bladestorm is available usually before recklessness. And does the answer differ in ST vs AOE? Thank you.

undone flower
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I bladestorm on cooldown unless they are very close + hold bladestorm near the end of the pull for the next if it’s m+ question

brittle crow
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who here is well informed on bougie controllers

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i need advice

brittle crow
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sad

earnest shuttle
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can I ask for a recommendation on trinkets to use for M+? I have below:
Astral Antenna 704
Archanocore 723
So'leah 710(can't upgrade to 723 yet due to crests)
Cursed Idol 710

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I did a sim with 10 targets and it says so'leah + cursed idol, but wanted to throw the question here

compact knot
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id do arcanocore and idol

earnest shuttle
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some people are saying that antenna is a trap and sims weird

eager lily
compact knot
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this trinket fucking owns

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but at 704 i wouldnt use it over idol and arcanocore

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if you get a hero or myth version id insta equip

cobalt relic
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all gg

signal steeple
ocean hill
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is crafting two 2-handed weapon dumb?

potent thicket
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no?

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crafting 2h as first craft is the best decision

remote bobcat
potent thicket
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OH

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don't think you can wield 2 crafted 2h

oblique trail
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You can

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You can equip any amount of crafted items you want, but only 2 of them can have embellishments on

hardy bluff
oblique trail
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But it's not exactly the best option to craft a 2nd two-hander, unless you wont have any access to a myth track 2hander anytime soon, if ever

hardy bluff
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But its like 20% miss rate for alot of people

ocean hill
potent thicket
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yeah but you can wear 2 of the same item?

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couldn't with rings

oblique trail
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Because rings are unique equipped

potent thicket
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or do you craft an axe and a sword

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welp

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IMMA CRAFT A SECOND WEAPON

oblique trail
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It says it on the item before you craft

potent thicket
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DWARF, FIRE THE FORGE

remote bobcat
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oh god discord role play

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are you a larper?

oblique trail
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For reference

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And otherwise it'll say unique equipped: embellishments 2

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Or something along those lines

potent thicket
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thanks a lot

oblique trail
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And weigh your options then

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If you already have a 720 crafted mainhand, getting a 720 crafted offhand wont appreciably increase your dps, unless your offhand is significantly lower ilvl

remote bobcat
#

I mean if ur offhand is 710, which it should be, then a 720 crafted weapon aint thaaat big of an upgrade over other crafts

woeful heart
#

What got you from blue parses to 90’s?

pale lava
weak wagon
#

For m+ what's the bis trinkets?

#

Not many people using Screams?

sudden tusk
#

antenna and stone idol

weak wagon
#

Next best thing next to antenna?

#

@sudden tusk

sudden tusk
#

Sacbrood prob

#

first boss Trinket the archanocore is also pretty close with sacbrood

weak wagon
#

Oh really, archanocore better than Screams?

sudden tusk
#

the issue with screams is it CAN be good, but its way too rng for my liking

#

its good for single target for sure

#

but for aoe im not a fan of it

flat river
#

Good morning

weak wagon
#

Yeah, raid it's archanocore+screams

flat river
sudden tusk
#

just depends on your sim

#

bis items and bis gear are only bis within the context that you have every piece of the puzzle

#

while you get there other items will be p valuable

weak wagon
#

Yeah

sudden tusk
#

antenna as an example on pure ST is slightly worse then arcanocore

#

but with any aoe its value skyrockets

graceful brook
arctic sinew
#

Cause that would be very weird if so

graceful brook
#

5 targets

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Both 710

arctic sinew
#

1.5 min? That would skew the number away from sac

#

Now try 5 target 2/3 min or a dungeon route sim

#

Or are you maybe very low on whichever stat you picked from soleahs?

sudden tusk
#

90% of our damage stems from single target so id just sim ST 99% of the time

radiant spindle
#

I mainly do m+ but startin to Myth raid..

sudden tusk
#

ST for sure

radiant spindle
#

And i dont have the funds to keep swapin gems around.

radiant spindle
#

been simin for few hours just needed another set of eyes that knows whats up 😄

limber oar
#

Hi @sudden tusk Hope youre doing well king

sudden tusk
#

i will be in bed soon but i just slammed a couple eggrolls

#

delicious

limber oar
#

Gz to dmg btw on yalls HoF

sudden tusk
#

We had a bit of a rough start to dimi prog. had to swap i think 4 characters and regear them so prog was a bit rough

#

but im glad the lads won and now i actually get to raid with my guild hehe

limber oar
#

Ya i heard from yen that the feral and war had to make eles from scratch iirc

#

Actually wild

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My guild is gonna be there soon-ish and we dont have have a single ele so it might be joever

sudden tusk
#

war went ele and our feral also had an ele but it just wasnt as geared

gleaming siren
#

Oof size large

sudden tusk
#

priest swapped resto druid and monk swapped resto shaman as well

limber oar
#

My god

sudden tusk
#

oh our original ele shaman also had to swap to warlock becuase 2 are required

limber oar
#

Ya

sudden tusk
#

so yeah 5 swaps/main changes in the roster becuase of fight design

limber oar
#

Disgusting

sudden tusk
#

10m hp wipe

#

was tragic

gleaming siren
limber oar
#

Ya the hard enrage i saw

sudden tusk
#

so we had no havoc on standby and no second lock walking into dimi

#

hehe

gleaming siren
#

Ok crazy

limber oar
#

Wtf

sudden tusk
#

we were so fucking cursed this tier ahaha

limber oar
#

When did they gquit

sudden tusk
#

and i play hunter/warrior/outlaw rogue

#

legit bottom 3 dimi specs

limber oar
#

Ya my guild is doomed we have 2 dps war for dimi

sudden tusk
#

havoc was personal reasons. 2nd warlock not entirely sure thats officer stuff

#

i mean war isnt even bad for dimi esp after the nerfs

#

im just also strait up 6ish ilvl behind becuase i havent been in

limber oar
sudden tusk
#

i do have like 270ish crests im sitting on, but im not throwing those into hero track items if im not even progging

radiant plank
#

Time to gear a havoc madox

sudden tusk
#

we might be getting a havoc guy will have to see

#

but based on our classes is prob need to reevaluate my alt choice

#

i think rn at least im our only second hunter for the alt

#

but i can play w/e we need we just need to know ahead of time

#

we lost the 2 players basically as we were finishing nexus king prog so the timing was rough

#

on the plus side i got heroic soul hunter boots this week when we went in pre raid for the raidbuff

#

:p

limber oar
#

Big

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I got my mythic soul hunter boots the vault after we killed em

sudden tusk
#

i mean on the plus side

radiant plank
weak wagon
sudden tusk
#

oh i mean we plan on doing 2 runs and selling 2 lockouts a week

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so having a second hunter for that second run was the idea at least

#

i might have to get out the havocdh tho

#

might give me something to do while waiting for the turboboost

#

i played in amird tier

limber oar
sudden tusk
#

warrior isnt bad its just not opop

#

main thing holding it back is its lack of burst damage for P3

weak wagon
#

Yeah, we got 6% extra dmg now tho

sudden tusk
#

but with raid buffs/nerfs it wont matter

radiant plank
#

200% dmg amp vs Fury dmg profile

#

xff

sudden tusk
#

well the issue is who do you gear and plan on playing right

#

giving gear to the fury warrior doesnt make sense in a damage amp tier

weak wagon
sudden tusk
#

so i fall behind in gear. raid gets nerfed im behind 6ilvl no point to bring

radiant plank
sudden tusk
#

yeah i amp melee classes by 5% owned buddy

hasty skiff
#

hey all, what miss chance should we sim for with astral antena?

radiant plank
#

Look at your or a random log and see how much they miss

#

Generally 10-30% depending on the fight

hasty skiff
#

in logs there is 2 buffs

radiant plank
#

Yeah

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one for orb spawn and one for orb collection

#

check how many of those match

limber oar
viral shore
sudden tusk
#

also with how the vault works now you can technically get ahead on crests as a mythic raider with each slot dropping at 4/6 mythic track once you kill nexus king

#

also, im only doing this becuase i am on the bench as a fury warrior specifically if i was in the raid at all i would send crests on items

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so once i get to come in on farm and play i should bounce up to close to 720 quickly becuase i haven't wasted any crests

viral shore
#

ah ok the bench thing makes sense. for someone who doesn't mythic raid it makes no sense to hold back on hero gear though. the 2 weeks you'd be behind if you fully upgraded all hero tracks don't matter since if you get all your myth track gear from the vault, by the time you are geared its time for turbo boost where crests are uncapped again (Afaik)

sudden tusk
#

i also have a bit of luxery because of my previous M+ score

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so getting my weeklies done or getting into pug 2/8s week after week have not been an issue

cobalt kernel
#

are you on the bench?

sudden tusk
#

yeah

cobalt kernel
#

cringe

sudden tusk
#

well we killed dimi tonight so i should be in next raid

dim stag
#

I can no longer leap out of Cosmic Singularity since this reset , anyone else having issues ?

cobalt kernel
#

im 119~ pulls into nexus king p1 :)))))))

dim stag
#

hit'

cobalt kernel
#

leap .6 on timer maybe

dim stag
#

I used to do it perfectly fine , I just cant now . idk

#

will try more maybe . was wondering anyone has same issues recently

cobalt kernel
#

this szn ive always lept out at .6 never had an issue

dim stag
cobalt kernel
#

not yet i just raid then log

sudden tusk
#

anywho actual bedge

dim stag
#

I was running a Streets earlier , the drums from theater boss randomly appeared on final boss and spawned a bunch of adds and wiped us ... weird bug there too

novel perch
#

Question for Soul Hunters mythic rekillers

#

How mamy boots.does the boss.drop?

#

Its always 2 pairs?

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Or its 1 pair 100% drop and chance for 2nd pair?

undone flower
#

We got 2

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Idk for the first kill last week, all I know is I got it

graceful brook
cobalt kernel
#

Must be nice to play wr on soul hunters

potent citrus
#

is flask/coating expected for +12s or nah

eternal sundial
#

I never used it for shit that's just farm - costs you some overall but whatever

#

You have enough damage for the Keys anyways

subtle nova
eternal compass
#

Guys what do you do to improve dps rotation or positioning. I did a 17 ara last night and finished with 9.5m overall only. I feel that is really low from what ive seen.

#

Just watch gameplay or do you have some things you do?

eternal sundial
#

Look at others and review own gameplay

#

Record a key and rewatch

shrewd dew
#

Hello guys… is there by chance any useful updated video guide around? My reading comprehension is ass

#

Any assistance is appreciated 🙏

warm umbra
#

is cosmic damage and shadow damage seperate categories from magic damage

#

?

#

so spell reflect is basically useless on dimensius or what

warm crag
#

kinda ye

#

cosmic damage is all magic damage types combined

warm umbra
#

cringe

warm crag
#

spellreflect is not useless on dimensius

#

in wow any damage type that isnt physical is magic

warm umbra
#

whats it's best use

#

in that fight

warm crag
#

are you playing hc or mythic

warm umbra
#

soon mythic

warm crag
#

if mythic go look at some kill vods and study their defensive usage

hardy shuttle
#

Feel like im slamming reflect on CD in mythic p1

#

Haven't seen past that yet

warm crag
#

i personally like sr every pool drop, p2 is kinda fire whenever and p3 ive not looked at yet

warm umbra
#

i get confused when its all types or random damage types

#

in the boss info

quick folio
#

this is my crafted gear sims. Should i really make engi helm. My stat weights are sitting roughly equal

fading sky
#

Belt

#

Belts gettin nerfed

sullen tendon
limber oar
#

I forget if we got 1 or 2 first kill but we def got 2 on tuesday reclear

calm mantle
#

With my Atenna do I run sac brood or pacemaker in m+? Yes I know sim but already did that was just curious on opinions

warm umbra
#

i think i would go Ara

#

given they are same ilvl

next jacinth
#

Sac brood is usually go to for bis in m+

warm umbra
#

arcanocore ara in raid

#

arcanocore stone idol m+

#

cause my arcano is myth and others are hc

#

and i have pacemaker hc but its rotting in my bag and has no use what so ever

eternal sundial
winter vortex
#

Should you run the OF build or season 3 fury build for 15 and higher keys?

whole remnant
eternal sundial
#

I know him

whole remnant
#

And then look at yourself

eternal sundial
#

Fraud

whole remnant
#

🪞

coarse nest
#

@undone flower

#

So close

#

Don’t think I hit the 5.6 this week unless frac chest drops

warm crag
#

noob

#

i will hit 5.64 if i do four (4) mythic keystones

#

impossible challenge

#

oh you have skyreaver thats why your damage is so bad

coarse nest
#

Yeah crit weapon curse innit

gleaming siren
#

Skyreaver curse

chilly fractal
#

5.7 next week

dense elbow
#

Hoy, where is the weekly spark part quest?

frank dawn
#

disc fragments

dense elbow
#

hiding down there, eh? Aight thanks

feral ivy
#

can you equip 2 crafted weps? usually im pretty lucky in vaults and raid but raid has not dropped 1 mythic wep for any bosses yet

red grail
#

Pretety sure they are not unique equipped.

warm crag
#

ye you can equip 2

vagrant mortar
#

@whole remnant hi

feral ivy
#

multiple weeks in mythic and not 1 2h drop other than casters.. that staff for casters 3 drop at the same time

whole remnant
radiant plank
#

We got

#

Pauck gf in skyhold

#

oly

whole remnant
#

That is not my gf.

#

Im a truecell

tame gorge
#

Araz is so chaotic that I spend more time being in the right place than I am dpsing anything. Idk how some of yall do it on mythic

radiant plank
#

Fakecel

whole remnant
#

I want to ascend to chudtopia

rigid wren
#

You can do it pauck

whole remnant
#

Thanks

radiant plank
#

Paucks gonna be a wizard soon

whole remnant
#

Hop on fellowship walhe

#

Fellowship

radiant plank
#

waiting for launch

whole remnant
#

Thats ikay

#

Okay

#

Ikea

vagrant mortar
vagrant mortar
warm crag
#

this is fucked up

bitter palm
static rock
#

So out of like 4 weeks, my guild has gotten 3 plate boots, 1 was champion and we just got 2 at hero track, how scuffed is that RNG? btw every week is at least 20 people

lavish pond
#

guys is it better to use talents that wowhead recommends or copy some of the best fury from murlok.io talents?

pearl sequoia
#

for keys or raid

lavish pond
#

keys

pearl sequoia
#

the wowhead one is pretty sufficient

#

not much wiggle room for that

lavish pond
#

ok, i tried for example noxiv's talents and thinking maybe the more basic from wowhead does better damage

pearl sequoia
#

havent seen his but at that high level he might be changing some talents for different dungeons, the wowhead one is universally gonna do well

#

from that though, changing 1 or 2 things wont make a big difference unless your going really out of your way for some reason xd

lavish pond
#

yes i get it, for these high players even 1k damage difference is huge

quiet breach
#

our specs talents aren't very flexible

#

there's some stuff

#

but in terms of impact the changeable stuff barely has impact

lavish pond
#

using noxiv's talents i sim 6k more than the basic from wowhead lmao

#

but idk how that shows in combat

coarse nest
#

Wow 6 whole K

#

!!!!

lavish pond
#

ikr

tight roost
#

Sounds like a blue number

earnest canyon
#

Is there anyway to see iLevel on a raidbots report for the final "optimised" gear? Cant see it anywhere

warm crag
#

like on the bis profile or your own sims?

earnest canyon
warm crag
#

i dont know of a way but also why do you care

gilded pawn
#

I believe there’s a way

#

But not for top gear

#

And ya

#

Why do you care

#

It’s just a number

quiet breach
#

any PC nerds here know if this is a good deal relative to how prices have been the last several months?

bitter palm
#

i mean its not bad but u could get a lot better if u built it yourself type shit

#

for 2k u could easily get a 9800x3d

#

which would smoke the 265k

#

especially in wow

#

since l3 cache is giga important to reduce framedrops in raid

winter shoal
#

for 2k I wouldn't get a 9800x3d, probably a 7800x3d

sullen cloak
#

Good advice ! 9800x3d is a wonderful CPU for wow

winter shoal
#

Save $120 for similar performance

#

any of the x3d chips should be good though

analog kite
#

7800x3D beats out the 9800x3D on games tbh

winter shoal
#

7800x3d shouldn't beat 9800x3d, but it should be close in most cases

analog kite
#

it does lol

#

by like 3 fps though

winter shoal
#

The other sus thing about prebuilts @quiet breach is the power supply isn't listed, nor are the brands for the gpu and RAM. Those might be fine, or they might be lower quality/less reliable ones that the builder is just trying to upsell you on

analog kite
#

9800x3D is used more so for workstations that use blender and what not

quiet breach
#

I am not building my own pc

analog kite
#

go to microcenter

winter shoal
#

Not everyone has a microcenter big dog

analog kite
#

pick out the parts you want, and they build for you

plush zephyr
#

If I’m spending over 1,500 on a prebuilt I’m going Digital Storm

quiet breach
winter shoal
#

But yeah there are online services that will build for you as well, sort of halfway between a prebuilt and doing it yourself

analog kite
#

1500$ on a pc is low end, might as well get a laptop at that point

winter shoal
#

I used nzxt BLD several years ago and it was pretty good

#

no idea if it still is

sullen dove
#

just watch the verve pc building guide

analog kite
#

building a pc really isnt hard

#

unless youre scared, which is understandable

thin cliff
winter shoal
#

It's not hard but it is kind of a pain in the ass especially if you haven't done it before

#

A lot easier and less stressful to just pay someone else to do it for you

analog kite
sullen dove
#

Think the cable shit is annoyin

winter shoal
#

24pin mobo cable is my worst enemy

analog kite
analog kite
#

Here’s mine I built

thin cliff
winter shoal
#

Bro got the rgb ram

#

that adds 5fps for sure

young swan
#

send me one?

quiet breach
#

in your estimate

bitter palm
#

for 120 its worth it its like 10-15% faster in some games idk about wow

winter shoal
analog kite
quiet breach
winter shoal
quiet breach
#

so if they send me a bunk PC they replace?

#

or do u mean like

#

the part might only last 4 years instead of 10

#

type shit

bitter palm
#

ye also depends what games u play

analog kite
winter shoal
#

Both but also dealing with warranties and RMAs is a huge pain

thin cliff
analog kite
winter shoal
#

I'm pressing criminal charges

analog kite
#

i bet your temps are amazing though

thin cliff
bitter palm
#

lowkey

#

9070

#

most slept on gpu this gen

bitter palm
#

ur cpu is freezing

#

ahh

#

push voltage to 1.75 get that to 8 ghz chatting

analog kite
#

that is WILD

winter shoal
#

ah yes intel CPUs famously good to push the voltage very high on

bitter palm
#

they pushed 14900k to something ridiculous

#

on liquid helium

#

9.1ghz

#

need apex hero i think for that

#

its like

#

24 phase design

winter shoal
#

That's a lot of hertz

bitter palm
#

1.85v

#

xddddd

winter shoal
#

I get 120v from my wall socket, those are rookie numbers chatting

gilded pawn
#

I get 220

#

Noob

bitter palm
#

same

#

noob

winter shoal
#

Although you EU andys probably get like 240-300 or some shit

bitter palm
#

120 = noob

analog kite
#

ah the european voltages

winter shoal
#

That reminds me I need to order a travel adapter

thin cliff
#

just repeatedly tase your cpu to keep it in line

winter shoal
#

Thanks fellas

bitter palm
#

either way for 2k u can build a monster

#

especially if u are american

winter shoal
#

Depends on what you consider a monster ig

bitter palm
#

and have microcenter

analog kite
#

not really...

thin cliff
plush zephyr
#

Idk what people consider “good” pcs anymore

analog kite
#

5070 and a 7800x3D alone will be like 1500$

bitter palm
#

7800x3d here is 350

#

5070 600

analog kite
#

plus tag

#

tax

bitter palm
#

u can get a decent cheap air cooler for a 7800x3d

#

get a decent b850

#

32 cl30 6000

analog kite
#

microcenter has the CPU, Ram, and MOBO combos

bitter palm
#

aio is overkill for a 7800x3d but there are good cheap aios too if u want aesthetics

#

its not overclockable and runs on low clocks

plush zephyr
#

50$ air cooler > some aio

earnest canyon
analog kite
earnest canyon
#

this ^^

bitter palm
#

idcooling goated

plush zephyr
analog kite
plush zephyr
#

For sure. Just saying air cooling is better.

winter shoal
#

same

bitter palm
#

$15 air cooler keeping a 5600 at 4.7 all core ~150w under 85 in cinebench

earnest canyon
#

I have a noctua NH-D15 still

plush zephyr
#

Noctua gang gang

earnest canyon
#

ive destroyed loads of AIOs but it wasnt on a normal cpu

analog kite
#

my buddy got the 9700x and got some cheap 15$ fan cooler and the PC would boot up and shut off due to overtemp

#

so i dont trust them

bitter palm
#

got the wrong 15 cheap cooler

earnest canyon
#

im not talking about cheap air coolers (personally)

analog kite
#

it was recommended from microcenter

winter shoal
#

Think the PA120 is only like $35

#

and that shit cranks

earnest canyon
#

microcenter staff know less than the average teenager I bet

thin cliff
bitter palm
#

idcooling se214xt

#

goated

analog kite
bitter palm
#

idcooling in general

#

goated

#

thermalright too

#

scythe too

earnest canyon
#

I had a cooler that cost me $2000 and was the size of 2-3 desktop PCs

plush zephyr
analog kite
bitter palm
#

royal pretor 130 will cool better than most cheap aios

rigid stirrup
#

Artic air cooling fans are goated

plush zephyr
#

Liquid cooling (for performance) is the best over anything but that’s a whole other topic lol

bitter palm
#

lets just say in cinebench that cpu is impossible to cool

earnest canyon
#

*SHC

analog kite
#

custom loops are just a pain in the ass though, and double the cost of your PC

plush zephyr
earnest canyon
plush zephyr
#

Idk why I wanted that in capitals. Made me happy. But you can’t compare a tiny aio pump to one that’s like 4 times it size that you put stand alone in your tower

quiet breach
# winter shoal The other sus thing about prebuilts <@153607791720792064> is the power supply is...

https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gaming-PC-Master-9400?srsltid=AfmBOoqeC1dzQNsoWM0apNl3ujm4eFM1yWI9-TILci4MVYVqQMbT11S_ I clicked on a different one, this has every single thing listed, do you notice any sussy parts here?

earnest canyon
plush zephyr
analog kite
#

i would go 360AIO though instead of 240

earnest canyon
#

BigTips from BigCrits

analog kite
earnest canyon
#

I had a 500mm fan....maybe it was bigger I cant remember

plush zephyr
#

When I was looking at 360s they didn’t justify the price increase for performance to 240s

earnest canyon
#

its not just about the raw numbers

#

eg cooling perf

analog kite
#

it just doesnt look like that case has alot of fans, so i recommended it since it was only like a 42$ increase on that website

earnest canyon
#

I had delta fans at one point, they cooled amazing because of the air they shifted, but they literally screamed as they were industrial fans....so on paper they looked great, but the sound profile was unbearable

quiet breach
#

apparent x3d CPUs are insane for wow

earnest canyon
#

yes

plush zephyr
#

@quiet breach have you looked at digital storm yet 👀

analog kite
#

wow is surprisingly pretty demanding, or just not optimized

plush zephyr
#

Both

plush zephyr
#

Depends on your settings

earnest canyon
#

its an engine from 2004 so built to run on a single thread as fast as possible....

analog kite
#

i run custom settings, i feel like you almost have to

young swan
earnest canyon
#

i do too on an x3d with a 4090 lol

vernal portal
plush zephyr
#

Wow is very good at being able to be played on almost anything if you play with your settings accordingly. Single thread like BP said is the biggest thing besides RAM. Wow eats a fuck ton of ram especially along side ram eaters like discord

earnest canyon
plush zephyr
charred panther
#

Way less mechanics waaaaaaay less

analog kite
charred panther
#

Dodging a swirl or a frontal was the big thing. Or having resistance gear to minimize damage

#

Dispelling was much bigger

#

Decurse was the big add on of those days, lol

quiet breach
earnest canyon
analog kite
plush zephyr
#

Customer service from my own experience was incredible. @quiet breach

#

Also performance and longevity is like. The thing

glad coyote
#

priory 15 is rough man

#

but we got it

#

warrior on top

plush zephyr
#

I have one for my wife and my brother has one. He had iBuyPower in the past and they were assholes when his PSU went out. But to be fair he went through Best Buy so idk if that represents them. Cyber power seems good too. Idk though. I just really like Digital Storm out of everyone. BLD is cool too but their loan practices sketch me out to trust them as a company in general.

fickle cedar
#

big arakara (insert reap gif)

earnest canyon
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I havent had a pre-built since the mid 90s I think....looking at them these days they tend to skimp on the ram brand/OEM, PSU, and mobo as always, but some seem to let you at least pay a bit more and specify but I dont think you can say go down to the level of specifying the die, eg SK Hynix or Samsung

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Hunting for Samsung B-die was a pain in the ass back in like 2021

charred panther
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They’ve gotten much more competitive in pricing vs self building

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And you get the warranty/assistance etc

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Not the ones in the stores

crude mica
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Got a pre built for my latest one, but I live in Alaska, including shipping I saved like 350$

charred panther
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But the websites etc you can build off of

crude mica
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compare to making one myself

coarse nest
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Bro you gotta support ya boy asmon
And buy a star forged pc

gusty cloak
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support echo and buy their brand

sullen dove
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starforged is cheeks

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cockforged w

lyric cliff
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why is my sim telling me to not use the primary stats gem ?

bitter palm
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use speed

lyric cliff
crude mica
bitter palm
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idk strength for me lsoes to all secondaries

lyric cliff
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aight , ty

coarse nest
earnest canyon
lyric cliff
coarse nest
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In the gem area on the left

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I personally only select the masterful gems and quick onyx when I sim gems

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Less gold wasted swapping them constantly

crude mica
coarse nest
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@tepid cedar bro am I missing something or can we no longer copy the input text from a quick sim and paste it into top gear??

tepid cedar
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Click the option to convert to simc text

tepid cedar
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If your on your phone, turn the phone sideways. It won’t show up standing up

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Convert to simc output but only shows up on your phone if you rotate it sideways

coarse nest
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Oh duh dude I was trying to find it on the results page lol

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Thank you for solving my brain for me

earnest canyon
feral ivy
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how many sparks should we have? 3 total? or am i missing some

radiant perch
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4

feral ivy
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hmm i only have my crafted wep from week one or 2 and another full .. im missing another full spark

compact knot
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0.8 sparks

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it should be 4 though

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8 spark dust total

quiet breach
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I have not had a chance to deep deep dive into research yet just asking questions and getting feedback and casually browsing sites but this looks like the winner so far https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gaming-PC-Master-9400?srsltid=AfmBOoqeC1dzQNsoWM0apNl3ujm4eFM1yWI9-TILci4MVYVqQMbT11S_

earnest canyon
# tepid cedar What you mean

You do a Top Gear Sim, it tells you the best items for most dps....it tells me number of targets, the sim type, the sim time, the relative dps etc etc

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I want to know the overall iLevel of the recommended gear

warm crag
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you can see it in the simc html report but those arent accessible on the top gear sim

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you can take the top result, rerun it as a quick sim and then open html and find it somewhere in there

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but i ask again: why do you care lmao

rocky wharf
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talenting spear for forgeweaver?

warm crag
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sure, why not

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if your group needs the extra CC and you dont care about the miniscule dps loss from dropping roar

rocky wharf
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kk i feel the same. add management > dps

sullen dove
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idek spear just feels better

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should be way more add dmg if u line up a bs in it just maybe the loss of 1% crit overall worse for boss dmg