#fury

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wheat oyster
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is there a reason whyyoure crafting ring over slot w/ embellishment?

sacred glen
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this is a third craft in this season and first 2 are wrists and wep for everyone

undone flower
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I guess he has already 2 crafted with embellish

wheat oyster
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ah yea of course

undone flower
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Im gonna craft the ring too, most likely next week

tardy lark
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how many sparks do we have

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i lost count

wheat oyster
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me too

undone flower
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We have 3 items if you crafted a weapon

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But I don’t have crests for crafts this current week

tardy lark
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i might've inted prog slightly ratge

undone flower
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Yeah you gotta time your gilded on hero spends with the timing you reach the content requiring the gear + crafts

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I would have spend 105 gilded on hero last week if I didn’t loot from reclear, bc I reached saladbar

sinful orbit
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alright so i just swapped from arms to fury idk what i am exactly doing wrong but i feel like i am doing something wrong (rotationwise)

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to many rb presses ?

radiant perch
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we cant say from screenshot 🙂 post log and some ppl can point out

drifting token
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No such thing as too many rb presses first off so jot that down

balmy shore
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wow i’ve never seen myself on the first page before…. ExcitedBlushette

warm crag
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noobie

coarse nest
balmy shore
warm crag
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sorry it was a misinput

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i meant goat

tardy lark
balmy shore
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ty spongie

tardy lark
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🐐

undone flower
smoky vale
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i got 6 bosses this week godkingbazeface

tardy lark
tardy lark
warm crag
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idk you got me i guess

balmy shore
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nexus king fell over this week

undone flower
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Im a plexus king

balmy shore
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the raid buffs went hard

tardy lark
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we oneshot him on reclear

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actually oneshot 7 bosses straight into bench for dimmy d

balmy shore
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or the uh damage buff i mean*

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nooo you’re on bench?

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rip….

undone flower
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rip…

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Fortunately on my side, tanks don’t play prot

tardy lark
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prot warrior good, dps warrior bad until tier change where prog already was started xd

balmy shore
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simply play prot warrior and dps warrior (that’s what we’re doing)

tardy lark
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also doesnt help that i would've missed 3 prog nights cause vacay, but thats coping ratge

balmy shore
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oof

tardy lark
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idk, perks and downsides of having a liquid man on officer team

undone flower
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I think even before the tier fix, fury was a not bad dimmy spec but damage amp

tardy lark
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we got world rank 53 though i think

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fury was ok

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but why play fury when you can play an extra mage, deva, shaman, dk and so on

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ok imma take wowprog rank cause that says 45 ratge

undone flower
balmy shore
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always take the lowest rank number xd

tardy lark
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correct, but when a dragon can be played mediocrely and still bring spiral, zephyr and grabby grabby, warrior just kinda blows

undone flower
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I know in mine I’m not scared even if prot, I’m in wr 500 guild

runic fern
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if I check the stat prio it puts versa almost at the bottom, but when I check what players craft they seem to go for versa and haste/mastery, why would you put versa instead of haste and mastery on crafted bracers for exampl?

undone flower
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Some ranges would be benched to slot me, unless the damage profile is really absolutely fury nightmare

plush zephyr
runic fern
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Yeah ok that's what I was thinking aswell, is there a breakdown of softcaps for haste for example somewhere? maybe I didn't dig enough

plush zephyr
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No not really. There’s a post about it but it’s archaic.

runic fern
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Ok cool thanks will check it out!

fading sky
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Doenst matter

plush zephyr
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^

fading sky
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They put what robot tells em

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Every stat boost eachother

tardy lark
fading sky
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So values change based on which stata u have

undone flower
tardy lark
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Obviously i'd like to play all bosses all the time, but i also recognize this is a team game and somewhat socially and because of that a political game in that sense lol

undone flower
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I don’t have to learn arms is one keks

undone flower
tardy lark
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neither am i, but i am not solo warrior bedge

heavy folio
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you gyus take improved bt for raid multitarget? Im thinking of taking invigorating fury instead

undone flower
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Even tho I hate bragging

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I know if we would have 2 dps warrior I’m not scared + we can both bench some mages together if he is decent

reef loom
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buff warrior

hardy nest
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is fury right now the best its ever been ?

uneven path
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What are the enchants your are using for your weapons ?

drifting token
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The ones your sim tells you to use

uneven path
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I shall do the robots bidding once more

wind citrus
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Besides the Sudden death WA what other ones should
Be used?

drifting token
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It's personal taste bud, whatever helps you play more naturally. Some people like to track ww stacks, some like enrage bars. Your call

ionic ermine
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I use some WAs to track whirlwind stacks and raging blow stacks/cooldown.

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About it

plush zephyr
calm depot
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Hey! New to fury here. My question is what will be my best choice for 2nd trinket to farm for m+ and raid, i already have hero antena?

wind citrus
plush zephyr
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Lots of good trinkets

calm depot
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Thanks

ionic ermine
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Just to make it easier to see how many charges I got.

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These old eyes need all the help I can get

drifting token
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dont really need a WA for that you can just make your action bar buttons bigger with bartender settings or within elvui itself

plush zephyr
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Debating on deleting my wa package

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The thought of them killing them come Midnight makes me want to go ahead and switch off

inland condor
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Guys.. WHat are the thoughts about Durable Information Securing Container belt (the delve belt) I see top warrior starting to replace with 710ilvl belts already. But my sims are still saying a crafted 720belt are a dps loss... ( i simmed it in differents stats as well ).

tender forge
warm crag
plush zephyr
plush zephyr
inland condor
plush zephyr
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.2%

inland condor
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I see X) mb.

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But i am still wondering, why top warriors are replacing it. Does it sim correctly? The delve belt.

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with only 710ilvl that is.

warm crag
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it sims properly ye

warm crag
undone flower
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idk how weakaura tracks buffs

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Is it combat log ?

cerulean badger
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They would have to heavily Change some class mechanics if they would want to make them all playable properly without WA

undone flower
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Because I don’t think they are making a cd manager to let us keep the luxthos type shits

undone flower
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Execute conditions WA is not a mandatory thing that needs a replacement for example

oblique trail
winter shoal
quiet breach
winter shoal
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Like yeah you can just press exe whenever it's available and it's 0.5-1% worse, but I care about that 0.5-1% damage

undone flower
winter shoal
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I challenge you to track your AJ/SD duration by looking at your buff bar in the top right during a prog boss

undone flower
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Wdym

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CD manager hello???

winter shoal
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Find the correct icon in a sea of like 30 different icons all moving around, check the duration, think about how that fits into your current rotation, etc

undone flower
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I need to login because I’m pretty sure except the mfe stacks, juggernaut and SD is tracked on it baseline

bitter palm
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the reason it was made was cause it was too much for arms at the time

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juggling sks jugg sd mfe bladestorm cs ava

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roar

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cba

cerulean badger
coarse nest
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Execute WA is so bis

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We need that perma until design changes

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Latest version is perfect

quiet breach
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I am pretty sure they aren't even killing stuff like the execute wa

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they are most definitely not killing the basic tracking packages like luxthos

winter shoal
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I don't think anyone concretely knows what they are and aren't killing

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Or the extent to which they're killing them

bitter palm
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i dont think they know

winter shoal
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Or when they're doing any of it

bitter palm
quiet breach
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but I can't say for sure

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I might be kisremembering

undone flower
winter shoal
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Classic blizzard "we have a reasonably-justified design idea with obvious flaws but we will not communicate in any way about said idea or its flaws"

coarse nest
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I have a hunch that the first patch with these ui changes they want to enforce is going to be a roller coaster ride for sure

winter shoal
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something something ripcord

coarse nest
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Oh yeah totally

undone flower
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I use the cd manager on my rdruid to keep track of it

bitter palm
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idk i tried it and its ass

coarse nest
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It’s going to be a total mess when everyone loses their UIs

undone flower
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To see when it’s good enough

coarse nest
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Like I don’t think Blizz even fully realizes how important the custom UIs we use really are

undone flower
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And whitelist/blacklist lacking still

abstract mountain
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reshi heroic boots or myth shoulders from vault?

coarse nest
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Or maybe they do realize and they just want to force us back to the Stone Age so they can dumb down encounter design and or class design who knows

hollow pike
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probably boots, you're likely have plenty of myth shoulders in the weeks to come, may never see boots again?

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but ultimately just sim it

quiet breach
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they aren't deleting weakauras from the game

plush zephyr
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My bad. My fear of them just gutting everything had me tripping now I riled everyone up sadge

quiet breach
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just certain type of weakauras

chilly fractal
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I’ve only ever used stock ui

undone flower
winter shoal
heavy dock
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if they delete weakauras game is going to shit lol

bitter palm
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ye

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i want my ui to look exactly how i want it to look

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not how blizz wants it to look

quiet breach
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blizzard have LITERALLY said they aren't deleting weakauras

heavy dock
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wow's main appeal is how customizable everything is, atleast i would imagine so

quiet breach
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only certain types of specific weakauras

coarse nest
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They want to limit combat readability for addons

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That’s what the entire concern is regarding WAs

chilly fractal
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FEAR MONGER

undone flower
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The most important information I took : they want to make combat log not readable, whatever it implies idk addons

winter shoal
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That probably means weakauras like the current execute one can't work

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Depending on whether they separate out buff states from combat log API

quiet breach
undone flower
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From them talking this summer in a billion interviews

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Maybe dratnos and max one

quiet breach
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i heard this billion interviews too and I do not remember that

coarse nest
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We’re just thinking of possibilities, as stated above we don’t actually know what they fully intend with these changes

undone flower
winter shoal
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Logs don't read combat data in real time so they're probably fine

chilly fractal
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Well there’s a difference between live reading a combatlog in game and another for it to be written to a text file

winter shoal
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advanced combat log stuff gets dumped after combat

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(kind of)

plush zephyr
winter shoal
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Yeah and it's fucking cringe

undone flower
plush zephyr
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They can’t take that away and not fix the top right of our screens tho

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Following buffs and debuffs natty is literally impossible

winter shoal
undone flower
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So the combat log is fully written after the fight ? It’s not some memory shenanigans then dump ?

pine socket
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qq - How are fury maintaining near 100% uptime on bosses?

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Do we do something special with the knockback?

warm crag
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which boss

drifting token
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assuming Frac

smoky vale
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me when it could be 3 bosses

chilly fractal
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If you get a wall break just run on top your healers with the circle so you wipe

remote bobcat
chilly fractal
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Go againe

edgy ore
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yo.. Are slayer or MT best for M+ these days? got 4set 🙂

chilly fractal
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Slayer

pine socket
smoky vale
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charge charge leap

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and run ahead of group

chilly fractal
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Ignore those adds that spawn

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They are stupid anyway

winter shoal
stiff furnace
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You have enough time after the 2nd charge to look where bubbles and lasers will spawn so you can properly aim your leap.

fossil elk
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What u would craft ? I have 720 mainhand weapon already so this is for offhand . Wondering if its worth spending 2 sparks again instead 1 on ring

icy torrent
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I mean you can literally see that you get more damage by spending only one spark

sleek zenith
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best trinket to pick for M+/raid?

golden goblet
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Hi all, why I need to cap my mastery at 55% and my versa at 16% (to reach 71% dmg) when I can reach 75% mastery for 0% versa ?

Raidbot tell me to play with versa but I dont understand why, for me 75>71 ?

fickle abyss
chilly fractal
fossil elk
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no i have only one on weapon

sleek zenith
winter shoal
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on some fights

coarse nest
chilly fractal
# fossil elk no i have only one on weapon

Bracers with Writhing embellishment is the best long term option - you can sim that using top gear I don’t think droptimizer adds embellishments unless they are natty

fossil elk
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yeah and its showing like this coz i still have 655 ring from S2 equipped

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thats why im wodnering what to craft or maybe get hero track ring with decent stats and then sim again

icy torrent
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if you have 2 sparks you should craft embelishment bracer and ring

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you can use HC crest from raid quest to craft bracer as they have low amount of stats

inner spire
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Quick question. I just got antenna in vault, but sims are putting it as a upgrade only if I sim it at 0% miss chance, I have first boss mythic trinket and last boss heroic trinket. Do I take antenna? Have I missed something? Felt like antenna was the decidedly BiS trinket earlier on in the tier 😛

fossil elk
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@icy torrent thanks

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i will have 2nd spark this week i guess from this supid disc collecting quest 😄

stoic marsh
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Anyone know what pieces we should catalyse?

cunning condor
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is this trinket better then ara kara hc?

undone flower
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i wouldn't use it on my warrior in its current form

plush zephyr
undone flower
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have you never dream of tracking imminent demise bs buff

eternal sundial
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Or dynamically centered buffs

plush zephyr
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Whoever made the cd manager was told to leave half way through.

undone flower
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idk why they didn't put CD duration like enrage / the bars doesn't look good for me too

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on my rdruid tho, it's really enough, just the ordering of the spells is cringe + combo points weird to look

calm depot
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what to pick here? i sim for ST and tells me to get the neck from raid, and then i sim 5 targets tells me to get ara-kara trinket? i have hero antenna and hero Arcanocore?

undone flower
winter shoal
undone flower
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Next update has it, if I remember correctly

winter shoal
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That's insanely cringe

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How was that not like one of the first things they added

jade cipher
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guys, if i drop a weapon raid i want to play with 1 embelish

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only dawn/duskthread on wrist that is crafted by runed

undone flower
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You have to play with the top to bottom or left from right options then switch columns if I want to change the order

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Cringe

jade cipher
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because i picked Waist from my first vault 723 with a socket on it

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do you think losing ascension is big deal?

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i get 3 weapon ilvl for it

winter shoal
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idk bro sim it

jade cipher
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well sims says in 5 minutes st its like 9k gain, but what is 9k in 5 minutes doesnt translate to real events

old latch
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hey I'm new to fury, how do you use recklessness / avatar if you have berserker's torment specced ?
I suppose you never use both at the same time

charred mountain
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Yo German players here ? I have questions for big pulls

undone flower
winter shoal
jade cipher
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Recklessness>charge>avatar= rage needed for rampage which enrages you

old latch
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so in M+ reck into avatar when you have both
then use on CD if pull is not about to end I'm guessing ?

winter shoal
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Pretty much yeah

old latch
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thx !

jade cipher
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if you playing slayer, know that if you bladestorm on for example 30% hp of the pack just to finish it, you gonna suffer heavily in next pack

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bladestorm is what enables you to keep spinning with raging blow

old latch
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that's what I saw, need to have bladestorm on pack start or have to grind through the CD to have fun

jade cipher
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if you open a pack without bladestorm

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bloodthirst will become your highest prio spell

old latch
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BT, execute and rampage right ?

jade cipher
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you only Bt when you dont have bladestorm because it has good chance to make you spin aka reap the storm

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when you have bladestorm tho, raging blow is spammed, rampage to keep enrage and dump rage and execute on 3 stacks of marked for execution

fossil elk
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there is nice WA

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when to use execute

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with sound

old latch
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ok seems good to me thanks
do you always pummel / storm bolt during bladestorm or is it just gimmicky ?

jade cipher
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in m+ you need to save those for when you need em

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in raid, you stormbolt during bladestorm for a small niche damage

old latch
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same on M+ bosses that don't cast I guess

lunar steeple
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mmm for prog do i go for main piece upgrades for a bit more survability or do i go a crafted neck for a bit more dmg

jade cipher
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the execute weak aura that macienty mentioned is very good for raid and m+ bosses but for aoe i dont recommend

old latch
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would you say never execute in AoE ?

young swan
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no

jade cipher
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i execute on 3 marked for execution stacks

young swan
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u can just delay it if you dont need bs cd until 3 stacks

old latch
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ok I was just following WA

jade cipher
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to get reduced Cd on bladestorm

rocky salmon
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cheers

jade cipher
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you need to execute at least 3 times during a pack to empower next Bs anyway

old latch
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got it

jade cipher
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right now raging blow is high prio in aoe because of reap the storm, you'll get the hang of it by playing more

calm depot
jade cipher
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there is a limit to how mujch you can follow strict rules to dps, at some point you need to make decisions based on situation and that cant be taught, just play and let your wrist be the price for greatness

old latch
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first time learning a new spec since I started wow start of DF, does not seem that hard but need to play more

warm crag
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panoply for fury sounds horrendous

cyan star
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What’s good ST for fury in m+ build

radiant plank
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idk like 5

cyan star
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I did 2 keys as fury for the first time since 7.0 and I was around 8.5-9 overall and 4-5m ST

last nacelle
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Hi !, i got incorporeal warpclaw in my chest and simed it, raidbot tell me he is better than arcanocore in mythic track (i have it in hero track) and better than pacemaker, this trinket is a simbait ? or he is really good ?

tawny heron
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anyone good at simming that can help me with trying to sim prism using it with avatar instead off on cd?

warm crag
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its about as good as it sims for pure st

jade cipher
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keep in mind those sims take into account many raid buffs, you need to uncheck them for more accurate answer

stray coyote
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Just wondering is it possible to have 2 crafted weapons just with different embelishments?

warm crag
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raid buffs won't really affect things like that

warm crag
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can be the same embellishment too

jade cipher
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i am going to live my life with 1 embelishment for a while and i dont see much of a downside

warm crag
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but why

jade cipher
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for 3 weapon ilvl

coarse nest
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That sims worse surely

jade cipher
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sims says in 5minutes its 10k loss from the 5.48m

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but think about it

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you burst higher in m+, and ascension tends to fall between packs

stray coyote
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So can go with 2 charged claymores to 720 with the same embelishments then

jade cipher
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this is my gear, if i get weapon from araz, i lose ascension but keep dawnthread,

restive peak
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Wait what

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You're gonna craft a second wep, you have a 723, and you want 1 that's not embellished and 1 that is? Lol

jade cipher
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i want to use double 723

restive peak
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Just recraft your old 1 off of ascension and make your 2 dusk or dawn pieces

jade cipher
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and have only 1 crafted piece on my wrist

restive peak
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It's a DPS loss to do so before you cran craft the 2nd dusk

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You can just craft gloves on Tues if you get the wep from reclear

jade cipher
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only 10k in 5 minutes, imagine you charge in a pack in m+, your ascension is nowhere to be found but you have 3 more weapon ilvl, tradeoff is 10k in 5 minutes of pure raid st

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it makes sense in my head.

compact knot
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i think you have bigger and better things to spend crests on

restive peak
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You're willing to lose overall DPS in a long fight, high key, or raid, for a potential burst increase on a sustained DPS class in a fight length that would be irrelevant at that ilvl?

sullen dove
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both are pretty irrelevant

jade cipher
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i am talking stricly m+ and ascension is not of a big deal as you think, with full uptime in a sim its 10k increase, its never full uptime in m+

warm crag
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you are using arcanocore in m+ you have bigger problems than that

restive peak
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But the wasted crests are more than 10k lol

compact knot
sullen dove
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this person is not crafting a second weapon

gusty cloak
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what are we crafting after wrists?

sullen dove
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it’s the other guy saying some yap about that

compact knot
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also yeah, spending crests on crafting something when you have so many myth slots to upgrade is piss

jade cipher
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i am saying if i get weapon from forgeweaver or hard mode, i get 723 with no crests right

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so i use it and lose ascension which is shit anyways

compact knot
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yes then you have to dump 60 crests into gloves for a dps loss in raid and a tiny dps in irrelevant m+ key levels

sullen dove
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yea if u luck out and get another weapon sure if u want rock that in m+ and can still use ascension in raid

eternal sundial
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Like id attempt to use it

jade cipher
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thats what i mean, i dont have crest for crafted right now, and my hand is 720, my waist is 723 with a socket on it

coarse nest
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Idk why you wouldn’t just use ascension in m+ also

warm crag
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im sure there are other 2h users in your raid group that have a better case to be given a 2h than you doing slightly less burst in m+

eternal sundial
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But it's unbearably shit

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Ya spngus

jade cipher
eternal sundial
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Grüetzi

warm crag
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lucky raid

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grützi

undone flower
gusty cloak
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what are we crafting after bracers?

jade cipher
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what i dont like about ascension is the fact that it only sims when fight takes long and it tends to disapper between packs, even if it has 3 seconds remaining it has tendecy to get removed because it doesnt search for combat everry second, it searches for combat every 8

eternal sundial
compact knot
eternal sundial
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Absolutely mvp for arms

compact knot
restive peak
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If you're doing a key level where ascension is dropping often, you're not needing to be super concerned tbh, but ok my dude

compact knot
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hard ass word to spell

warm crag
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myth offpiece craft is usually strong

jade cipher
compact knot
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i wouldnt say much better

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off hand dps isnt very relevant

limber oar
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This is a yikes convo

old latch
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I'm playing blessed weapon in M+, was better than ascension before in M+
hopefully still the case didn't think much

smoky vale
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@compact knot do you know if you clip aether attunement in aoe rn

compact knot
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wtf

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uh

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no you dont clip aether attunement in aoe

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you clip it on ST though

smoky vale
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bc wowhead is saying to

compact knot
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wowhead says not to clip on aoe

eternal sundial
smoky vale
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and i got aids trying to read apl

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no

restive peak
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Bro some of the other class APLs

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Legit give me cancer

eternal sundial
restive peak
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Like WHY ARE THESE LINES FROM 5 EXPANSIONS AGO EVEN HERE

coarse nest
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Just proves even more that our guys are the goats

smoky vale
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wtf

warm crag
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what the helly is this

coarse nest
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Mage propaganda

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Smh

compact knot
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@smoky vale

smoky vale
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and then the aoe ones says to always clip

compact knot
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aoe one lies

mild coral
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how do I unlock the crit DISC Belt Power now? I have completed an 11 Bountiful Skittering Breach just now but didnt get it

compact knot
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its way more important to not clip on aoe because you get 2 20 arcane harmony stacked abars

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you can clip it on ST though because its the same amount of stacks

smoky vale
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is it really because i clicked advanced

chilly fractal
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So check your bags

mild coral
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omg thanks

compact knot
smoky vale
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also that 2nd imagine is from the st only

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yeah

compact knot
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idk why you would clip it on aoe but not on st

smoky vale
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i tried hitting the dummy clipping in aoe

lost vigil
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So. Is there a threshold of holding BS to save with Reck? And then same question for reck to line up with avatar and roar?

compact knot
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its not even a talent you take in st

smoky vale
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and my damage drastically went down

lost vigil
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Thanks.

smoky vale
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you never worry about bs with roar

lost vigil
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Sub 18 hold in all instances?

smoky vale
#

only avatar rec

lost vigil
#

Well roar just lines up with Ava iirc

#

Those two have same CD and no way to reduce them

#

So I just lump them together really

#

In my mind*

smoky vale
#

@winter shoal @compact knot this is aids

compact knot
#

yeah its shit to read

#

because its way more indepth than fury

#

there is way more stacking variables which makes it ass to write a apl for

gusty cloak
#

why does BS and reck desync? if theyre both 1.30 and both have cdr

gusty cloak
#

oh execute doesnt hit reck cdr?

compact knot
#

correct

whole relic
compact knot
#

only bladestorms

smoky vale
#

@lost vigil ```
bladestorm,if=buff.enrage.up&cooldown.recklessness.remains>=15&(
buff.avatar.up|cooldown.avatar.remains>=8))

gusty cloak
#

makes sense

lost vigil
#

Sir

smoky vale
#

reck 15>= and or ava is up or ava cd is >= 8

lost vigil
#

Is that text for sims apl or just a copy pasta of rules when to hit buffs

#

I’m stupid so be gentle

smoky vale
#

apl text

lost vigil
#

Thanks

viral void
#

is pactstone really that good a trinket? i never see someone use it

winter shoal
smoky vale
#

me when you dont even use it

#

atm

compact knot
smoky vale
#

no point

steep fable
viral void
#

or what do i change

steep fable
# viral void what can i do best for M+ sim?

Either patchwerk 5-target or dungeon slice.
Due to that trinket splitting damage among targets, it will fall off VERY fast depending on the number of targets you use in the sim

plush zephyr
#

20 million! Too the moon!

manic temple
viral void
#

ahaha idk i never really used that before i dont play that long

#

let me see

steep fable
#

cursed stone idol is crazy good at multiple targets and is farm'able in its heroic version

tawny heron
lunar steeple
#

holding cds is generally ass for warriors

gleaming siren
storm birch
#

question. With concussive blows if we focus the kicked target (that gives us 5% increased damage to them) and cleave off of them will the cleave also benefit from the 5% since it's calculated as a % of our damage done to the priority target?

olive wraith
woven yew
#

I am just coming back to my warrior finding it difficult to get a second weapon is it possible to rock 2 crafted weapons does anyone know I have the crests just dont want to waste them

manic temple
winter shoal
craggy gulch
#

Why is Raging Blow doing more damage than reap the storm in my dungeon profile. What do I need to change in my rotation?

winter shoal
#

🔮

olive wraith
#

Need more info

winter shoal
#

Probably need to carry a BS into each pack, but also unavoidable in some cases

woven yew
drifting token
winter shoal
#

Keep running then

craggy gulch
#

Same routes as the top mythic plus groups

coarse nest
#

That’s because weakaura is designed for ST raid

craggy gulch
#

Oh shit

coarse nest
#

In M+ you only want to execute at 3mfe stacks for BS cdr

olive wraith
coarse nest
#

Well*

craggy gulch
#

Yes

winter shoal
coarse nest
#

Sometimes any amount of BS cdr is good

craggy gulch
#

If not it’s pretty equal

coarse nest
#

Not just at 3x mfe

craggy gulch
#

Do they have a weak aura for mythic plus?

storm birch
craggy gulch
#

Execute?

coarse nest
#

I personally just use cones WA in all content

#

Because I cba to think

#

Zug Zug

olive wraith
#

Then you’re either not entering every pack with bs available. Or something else

drifting token
#

if RB is ALWAYS above reap in every dungeon you do then yeah there's a problem

craggy gulch
#

Not always

#

But I feel like it should be doing more damage

woven yew
#

if I spec fury is there still achance i will get a 1h or do i just spec arms

craggy gulch
#

How ok g is too long to hold bladestorm?

#

For next pack?

drifting token
winter shoal
#

If you would otherwise have gotten it back in time

olive wraith
#

There’s no right answer

coarse nest
#

That’s impossible to accurately answer

#

You need to make a decision based on the scenario

olive wraith
#

Only send a second bs in a pull if you know you can get it back up

craggy gulch
#

So the wowhead WA for execute is for ST for sure huh?

coarse nest
#

Yes

olive wraith
#

I still follow it in keys for the most part

#

That’s not the issue

coarse nest
#

Works perfectly fine in keys also

#

I use it

craggy gulch
#

Ok, I think that’s a large part of it

coarse nest
#

Most use it

olive wraith
#

It’s not

craggy gulch
#

I think it’s very minor yes

#

I mean I’m doing ok damage just want to maximize

coarse nest
#

Yeah more likely than not, your damage is suffering from other factors

#

Not because you use the execute WA

modest condor
#

the WA is fine for aoe use as well

#

only exception is if you have to get your bs off cd asap so you use execute whenever you get an sd proc rather than just when the weakaura kachings

winter shoal
#

If you execute with 2mfe in aoe you actually go straight to jail and your character is deleted gg

craggy gulch
#

I’m parsing in the 80’s in 15’s and 16’s but I want to do 17’s and we need more DPS

olive wraith
#

This is me using the wa

olive wraith
#

M+ parsing doesn’t matter

coarse nest
#

Well, it is a good point of reference comparing yourself to others on the right column

craggy gulch
coarse nest
#

But there’s a tone of variables yes

#

And it’s not perfect

restive peak
#

Pug vs group comparisons are wonky

olive wraith
#

No 2 keys are the same

#

Way less key logs

manic temple
# manic temple

for real though, am I crazy, or is a 723 CSI kinda close on ST to a 710 Antenna, and then way better on AoE?

olive wraith
#

I’d probably take idol

#

Heroic antenna is easier to get

craggy gulch
#

Start of every pack

coarse nest
#

Yes absolutely

#

That is the primary issue

olive wraith
#

That’s the biggest mistake people make

coarse nest
#

As best guess

olive wraith
#

Super common really

craggy gulch
#

Thanks fellas

manic temple
charred flint
#

Last time i had a dawnbreaker

#

it went from 17

#

to a 13

#

now

#

its already a 16

#

please god no

olive wraith
#

Rip

#

What resi do you have

charred flint
#

14

#

still missing the hoa

#

and

olive wraith
#

Riiiiiiip

charred flint
#

fg

olive wraith
#

I’m missing fg and dawn

charred flint
#

FG is just impossible man

#

fucking kelps

#

ive tried 10+ and they all bricked on kelps

vital swan
#

Hey new to warrior, should i always pop reck on cd but always hold avatar for the next reck? or do i just pop avatar when available aswell?

charred flint
#

cd

charred flint
#

we dont burst

#

so doesnt matter

olive wraith
#

Rek gives avatar and vice versa

charred flint
#

just pres whenever

#

is up

olive wraith
#

So it’s not important to use them together anyways

covert python
#

is there a way to sim the BoE ring with different stats

charred flint
#

damn im fucking salty about that

#

stupid dk

#

aimed bubble at wall

covert python
#

since i only found entropy with no stats on gear compare

olive wraith
spiral pine
#

Hey ! i have a question regarding crafting items, i just started with warrior so i have 4 sparks, should i craft 2x2h weapons or 1x2h weapon + wrist and something else ? I have no other option of getting high ilvl weapon other than vault in the future

charred flint
#

1 2h and wrist

#

wrist can be heroic

#

and upgrade important gear to 723

vital swan
#

Alright, thanks for the advice. I feel like i could just take my massage gun and put it on my keyboard at this point 😂

runic violet
#

I fixed my rotation... and it's significant change

olive wraith
edgy widget
olive wraith
#

Bt still looks a bit high. But much better

pulsar prawn
#

TR keystone talent clowning cant wait for class tree rework

runic violet
edgy widget
#

(spoiler: it's still not very good unless you're specifically using it to game a damage phase, like losing Demi P1-2 dam specifically to gain in P3)

drifting token
#

This obviously isn't a water-tight datapoint but i've noticed a small trend between the breakdowns from those who manage BS well and those who come to ask for help, the ratio of Reap hits procced to RB hits tends to be close to the 2/3-ish area for good ones and around 1/2 or below for rough ones. Correlation =/= causation etc etc but thought it was interesting

pulsar prawn
runic violet
#

I'm still attatched to BT...

#

instinct

#

habit

olive wraith
#

Remove attachment

#

Swap it’s keybind maybe to prevent your muscle memory from hitting it

edgy widget
wind citrus
#

BT is really that bad?

olive wraith
#

It’s one of our lowest prio buttons

edgy widget
olive wraith
#

Aside from a niche situation of not having any overwhelm stacks and no bs

runic violet
#

BT only when RB not available pretty much

smoky vale
#

@compact knot what the fukc reason do you need 24 keys on oyur warrior for

compact knot
#

nah

#

its

#

8 war 8 dk 8 mage

smoky vale
#

thats light work

olive wraith
#

Aka really low prio

runic violet
#

does BT trigger anything?

olive wraith
#

Reap

winter shoal
runic violet
#

but RB also triggers reap

drifting token
#

enrage

olive wraith
#

Okay ya. Unhinged doesn’t

olive wraith
runic violet
edgy widget
#

they just don't have an increased chance to (cause they don't hit multiple targets)

winter shoal
runic violet
#

done for the week.. I guess

winter shoal
#

Didn't they make unhinged BTs not proc reap in s1

runic violet
#

3k next week.. and chill out

olive wraith
runic violet
#

I know I can do 3k+ I just don't want the stress

light tapir
#

Stress just makes you swing your weapons faster

edgy widget
runic violet
#

It gets stressful after certain difficulty threshold

edgy widget
#

so your chance of getting said reap is relatively low, but it definitely can happen

stiff furnace
#

Run with people you know.

runic violet
#

This season feels pretty easy... so I might push a little more but my goal is still around 3k.

olive wraith
#

Idk as soon as I hit 14s I feel like if the key bricks people are just like. Gg next

#

We tried

#

Obviously not ideal to brick. But it’s not a super huge deal

edgy widget
#

aside from the cooldown and explicitly being unable to cleave, the BT cast by Unhinged is a regular BT, generating rage and triggering all the same things

smoky vale
runic violet
#

lol

coarse nest
#

Not boosted

olive wraith
#

Lmao a rando 16 and 17

coarse nest
edgy widget
#

proofs

#

two reaps one bladestorm

coarse nest
#

That’s giga when that happens

runic violet
#

My dps warrior unemployment makes me tank... forced labor

coarse nest
#

That’s our version of “high roll” on add spawns in raid

olive wraith
#

I still hate streets

#

Ass dungeon

runic violet
#

what

#

Streets is my favorite this season

olive wraith
#

5 bosses suck

drifting token
#

Streets surpassed AK as my most hated this season

plush zephyr
#

The farther I get up in io the easier the dungeons cause the ppl don’t die to stupid shit and if they do die it’s like “okay, games hard”

olive wraith
#

Menagerie fight sucks

charred flint
#

its shit

runic violet
#

Yea it's kinda a lot but the flow of the dungeon keeps it interesting.

plush zephyr
#

Fuck AK

charred flint
#

honestly

#

a lot of bad dungeons

#

in this rotation

olive wraith
#

I don’t mind ak personally

charred flint
#

halls and fg are fun but they are kinda hrd

plush zephyr
#

I like streets if group stuns and shit properly

runic violet
#

halls is boring ass stressful ass dungeon.

olive wraith
#

Dawn is my second least fave

runic violet
#

so many adds

#

Dawn is easiest

olive wraith
#

Idk

stiff furnace
#

Had a Streets bug out because the item we had to trade vanished.

winter shoal
olive wraith
#

If you don’t wipe to first boss. And don’t wipe on second boss. Then you’re good

drifting token
#

Only thing hindering Dawn from being great imo is the stupid ship bugs, otherwise its great

olive wraith
#

But the heal check is kinda nutty

winter shoal
#

I fuckin love 30 seconds of doing nothing while RP happens

runic violet
#

Dawn mechanic is so easy for dps warrior

#

everything is textbook

#

not much random

olive wraith
#

Right but if healer gets one step behind it’s gg

runic violet
#

I can see it's hard on healers

#

1st boss esp

charred flint
#

all bosses

olive wraith
#

I think I’ve bricked Dawn more than any other key at 14+

charred flint
#

are hard for healers

#

the second boss

#

overlap on ball and aoe

#

is rough

#

and p1 of boss 3 is also a lot of damage

runic violet
#

people gotta use defensive

olive wraith
#

Can’t defensive every aoe

#

I mean we can

runic violet
#

warrior almost can

olive wraith
#

But not all dps

charred flint
#

We can?

#

Isnt ER 2 min now

olive wraith
#

Sr and d stance is usually enough

runic violet
#

spell refelect, stance, etc etc

olive wraith
#

And saving your self heal

charred flint
#

not that i find it difficult to stay alive we are fucking beefy

brittle summit
#

Yo ZugZugs!, new to Warrior and have a quick question. When poping cd's do we want to pop avatar + recklessness? or pop each independently?

charred flint
#

reck first ava second

#

use on cd

#

both

#

u want reck before ava so you gain 20 rage instead of 10

olive wraith
#

In raid you also wanna hit the boss with heroic throw or wrecking throw so you don’t bug and decay 1 rage

brittle summit
#

Awesome! THNX!

runic violet
#

I pop cds on cd

olive wraith
#

(At start of fight)

brittle summit
#

🫡

runic violet
#

guess im done for the week for my warrior... time to go play pinkman

drifting token
#

🤢

runic violet
#

pinkman not as fun 🙁

coarse nest
#

Disgraceful

#

/spit

runic violet
#

hey.. it's some to do

#

I only have one alt

olive wraith
#

Why stop warrior

runic violet
#

got my vault done

#

nothing to farm or upgrade

olive wraith
#

Upgrade that io keks

runic violet
#

got all 12s done.. will do 13s next week

charred flint
#

i was looking at wowaudit

#

man

#

im never getting loot

#

a 723 piece is like 0.4% upgrade for fury

#

but its alright cause we scale right boys

coarse nest
#

@modest condor

heavy galleon
#

what you'll craft this week ?

runic violet
#

my unlucky pinkman... still rocking that belt

charred flint
olive wraith
heavy galleon
#

I sims belt, it's only 0.2% dps

olive wraith
#

I swapped emb to vers

#

Since I only do keys

heavy galleon
#

oh true

olive wraith
#

I had 90% uptime in a key last night

#

Was pretty pog

heavy galleon
#

yes and vers is nice for us too

olive wraith
#

Oh here we go boys

#

.5 in less than a month

heavy galleon
#

seems neck give more dps than belt on crafting

compact knot
#

@smoky vale

#

gapping btw

#

almost 1m dps

#

what A CRANK

#

i LOVE m+ parsing

gusty cloak
#

whats ur secret

compact knot
#

i use odyns fury and troar capstones

#

thats it

#

odyns is nice quality of life

smoky vale
#

hes padding before i can press anything

compact knot
#

play a better spec

smoky vale
#

real

compact knot
#

or spec spellslinger

edgy widget
#

need to log my keys more, I had a really good run last night

cobalt relic
#

all gg

edgy widget
#

though at this point I couldn't care less about pushing big boy stuff, I'm dangerously close to complete raid log for the rest of the season keks

stiff furnace
#

Vodka? Haven't heard that guild name in a long time.

dire vigil
#

But I’m kinda there too. All I need is myth antenna and another myth ring

edgy widget
#

I reach that point by about the time we get close to finishing raid prog

#

it does feel faster this season, but there's also so much coming w/ Lemix and alpha, that I'm ok with it

coral isle
#

then it's time to play something else for me lol

dire vigil
#

I didn’t play legion so I’ll probably be doing that

chilly fractal
#

I wish I didn’t need to do M+ just for potential ring upgrades from vault… may just say fuck it in a couple weeks if I don’t see one of them

coral isle
#

has anyone messed around with perfidious projector in keys recently?

olive wraith
#

I haven’t even heard of that trink. So I doubt it’s good?

coral isle
#

it's the one from nexus king I think, haste and damage on use, like the one you got from sarkareth back in the day

#

like beacon to the beyond

quiet breach
#
World of Warcraft

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coral isle
#

dinars aren't on oct 7 though unfort

celest sierra
#

Thank god tho our bis stuff comes form the earlier bosses minus the dim trinket for single target

sullen dove
#

barely anything even dinarable this season a lot of the raid loot is rly early and likely to have been acquired by now

#

maybe soul hunter boots on myth are dinarable

celest sierra
#

Dinars are so much better for us this season compared to last

hollow pike
#

dinar some prot gear 🙂

sullen dove
#

but also those r like a pseudo guaranteed drop unlike banking on rng for other gear

modest condor
#

i hope we can buy the dh boots with dinars

visual wing
#

Probably a dumb question, but how do people avoid all the big aoe on pulls like the first big ones in gambit so we can keep up in dps with ranged clases?

covert coyote
#

s/till no M wep, CSI, antenna, champ shoulders

sullen dove
#

idk follow tank and keep hitting mobs

modest condor
#

have a mark on the tank and look where they are running

coarse nest
plush zephyr
#

I don’t even know how to do the last fight on streets

#

I just blindly follow my tank

tulip glade
#

I am confused. For reap the storm I have to use bloodthirst right? But when I look at the meters of people who have posted above they are using raging blow like 4 times as much. I can not figure out how to get anything that looks remotely similar usage wise.

plush zephyr
#

I’ll be real. Most of the time I feel like I’m not even looking at mobs. Just watching my tank and subconsciously play around them.

cobalt relic
#

is it worth

#

using idol

#

on pull

#

vs soul mythic

#

ST

#

or wait for adds

#

then use it

plush zephyr
#

Why the fuck couldn’t that be one message

cobalt relic
#

im 10s before pul;l

#

mnb

#

hg

#

so on PULL

#

OR NOT

#

@plush zephyr

#

BRO

plush zephyr
#

I’d do it on pull

radiant plank
#

are u

#

saving your cds for the adds

#

or not

plush zephyr
#

But if you do save for ads, pocket CDs for them and dump that pad bag

coarse nest
#

No shot the play is to still hold 30 seconds for first adds

#

Those things get sent to orbit instantly

warm crag
#

is that soul hunters or soulbinder

plush zephyr
plush zephyr
coarse nest
#

Them adds dead before idol channels

urban nimbus
#

For the purpose of simming primarily M+ content, what are the most realistic settings to use on raidbots?

radiant plank
#

1T for however long your boss in m+ lasts

#

and then 8-10t for however long your trashpulls last

#

generally 1t 3min and 8-10T 1min

urban nimbus
#

just Patchwerk?

radiant plank
#

Sure

cobalt relic
charred flint
#

miniboss wipe on halls

#

fuck me

sacred oak
#

why is this so much of my damage? I barely ever press bloodthirst, is it just the auto bloodthirst casts during bladestorm?

charred flint
#

4pc

charred flint
#

makes raging blow

#

cast it

sacred oak
#

oh shit. my bad

sour tundra
#

How are people getting to 721 ilvl???

#

I don't have enough crests

sullen dove
#

clearing mythic raid a lot…

#

and vault stuff all drops at 717 ilvl if u cleared the raid saves a ton of crests

cobalt relic
#

@sullen dove

#

idol on pull vs araz

#

or wait for adds then idol

sullen dove
#

idk don’t use that cringe trinket

#

I avatar on pull but like save reck/spear for first adds

#

prolly can use on add if u want but idk i have to throw a spear

#

and also just want to bladestorm immediately

#

rather than channel some bs

cobalt relic
#

ihave these and

#

@sullen dove

#

what chu say

radiant plank
#

are u gonna pad on adds or not

cobalt relic
#

best setup for it

smoky vale
#

@sullen dove

coral isle
#

lol did you pick a trinket for every vault?

cobalt relic
#

basically

#

yea

#

so which setup do I run

round dock
#

so what is this week's craft?

plush zephyr
limber oar
pulsar quest
#

Holy

#

The goat

hallow moth
#

Do we really use vers enchant???

young swan
#

yeah

hallow moth
#

wtf

#

thats so nasty

coral isle
#

on heroic dimensius, do you guys prefer to use the ST trinkets like screams and arcanocore or something like sacbrood+idol

young swan
#

ST stuff

pulsar quest
#

Single target for sure

cobalt relic
#

PLZ

coral isle
#

I see ok, I was mixing arcanocore and sacbrood

young swan
#

idk

#

those trinkets are weird

hollow leaf
round dock
limber oar
#

Youre welcome

#

:)

young swan
#

u asked a really vague question and got a really vague answer

#

dont see the problem

#

how could we possibly know what you want to craft in a week where its basically just a free for all

maiden valley
#

In an m+ scenario, what do you guys do when coming out of bladestorm with 3 stacks of marked for execution? Assume you arent worried about bladestorm not being up for next pack

young swan
#

ur crafting whichever slot u got most unlucky in

limber oar
#

Lmfao

young swan
#

but yeah

#

might as well sim

gusty oasis
#

quick question, when it comes to slaughtering strikes whats the sweet spot for sending Rampage? 3 stacks or whenever you have 115+ rage?

limber oar
#

Like i crafted a ring idk, technically helm wouldve been more dmg but i had 2 704 rings and no sign at improving em

sullen dove
#

only after bs do you care about them and even then not really

gusty oasis
charred flint
#

i will never finish a halls or fg 16

#

im sure of it

#

god fucking damn it

#

its impossible man

signal steeple
charred flint
#

I think i have more than 15 tries each

#

its always the same fucking stuff killing people

signal steeple
#

Yeah, that's why it's hard.

charred flint
#

its not hard people just silly

#

bunch of silly gamers

compact knot
#

hmmmm

#

key parsing

sullen dove
#

ur rly showing those key loggers who’s boss

compact knot
#

i am

#

man antenna is so fun

#

i had 6 orbs out at 1 time but couldnt take some of them

olive wraith
#

What’s your uptime on antenna in keys

#

I feel like I’m missing a lot

quiet breach
#

I use ST trinkets on every single raid boss

#

is that wrong xd

#

I only use mt ones in m+

compact knot
#

thats a lot higher than i thought ngl

olive wraith
#

Okay I don’t feel bad then

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That seems about where I’m at

compact knot
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left picture is the ball, right is the crit buff

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the 4 stack i missed feels so bad

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the fact it can proc in combat while doing noting is weird to me

limber oar
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Its procced on cmb start as i charge in

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Multiple times

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And im just like “guess i dont get it this time 🤷 “

placid adder
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qq team: for m+/ aoe, do I prio execute (when weakaura tells me conditions are met) over raging blow?

fickle cedar
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weapons aint dropping deadge

compact knot
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ur cloak can also proc in combat while doing noting and itll rip aggro off tanks and kill you lol

compact knot
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but generally not really, raging blow is far more damage on 5 targets

placid adder
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ty, that makes sense, appreciate you answering!

compact knot
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no problem

hollow leaf
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I love playing dimensius platforms with 10 fps

meager gyro
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Time gate time gate time gate, the new Blizz meta - who else is sick of it?

fading sky
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I love it

sullen dove
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crests bean time gated for over 2 years already

fading sky
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Like i havent got the time

drifting token
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Been a thing since Vanilla bud, nothing new about it

sullen dove
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no real significant time gating happening

fading sky
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Crests must be

sullen dove
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Last most egregious form of timegating was I think 2nd legendary s3 shadowlands

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Got after like 3rd or 4th week of quests

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Was really cringe

fading sky
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A lot of shadowlands

sullen dove
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But didn’t matter for almost everyone anyway

fading sky
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Had some bad timegating

sullen dove
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Just crippled the race a bit

fading sky
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Once they opened up. Sl was great

sullen dove
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yea idk how much of that mattered tho don’t remember if dommies were super gated

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Covenant gating was like a whole separate issue

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That game was terrible for including

fading sky
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Y

chrome basin
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got a crafted 2h and a hero track 2h, should I craft another 2h or a ring or something?

crude mica
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Sim ?

olive wraith
olive wraith
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I’d only craft one if you don’t get any myth gear from vault or raid

lean heart
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first boss 14 dawn ive never seen anything like this before this mf just drooling on the keyboard

remote bobcat
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wallife to liquid

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me like

quiet breach
winter shoal
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BEAN known

remote bobcat
winter shoal
olive wraith
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Liquid baze when

gilded pawn
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what about walhe

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is he also in liquid

winter shoal
remote bobcat
winter shoal
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Stay mad EU andys

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🇺🇸

remote bobcat
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why are u ruining my enjoyment of wallife joining liquid

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by being all nerdge

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"well acktshually"

winter shoal
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Skill issue

remote bobcat
valid tree
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Hey just wondering how long do you max hold BS to line it up with other cds?

cobalt relic
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we getting there

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nicuh

quiet breach
# cobalt relic

pog didn't u come in here awhile back and say u were in danger of losing ur spot cuz of performance

cobalt relic
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yeah

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HAHA

cobalt relic
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im dipping soul hunters

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cuz fk that boss

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ngl

quiet breach
stiff furnace
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I thought you weren't supposed to hold it at all.

remote bobcat
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to "just send" cds

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cuz minor set back

cobalt relic
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lets gooo

vagrant mortar
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Can someone review my logs please im shit and don't want to be shit