fury

[quartz knot]

Gotcha

[sullen dove]

free giga defensive at almost no detriment

[runic violet]

slayer is so much more fun... but better than thane?

[sullen dove]

prolly yea

[runic violet]

I feel like I'm not performing optimal

[sullen dove]

u having a bs ready going into every new pack

most important thing to kickstart aoe

does feel rly bad if your tank like chains 1 pack after another during a pull

[sullen dove]

but hopefully not playing with an animal and it is substantial large packs with minimal chaining

think 46% haste is kind of crazy

compared to 2% verse

[runic violet]

It's actually 41% . that was flask

[sullen dove]

would prolly try to shift some of that but idk robot sim should say how much to do that if at all

o

still 2% verse kinda small

wouldnt say stat diffs are like a make or break of dmg tho

with that much haste tho maybe just worth running powerful enrage in keys

at the moment at least

[runic violet]

I spam execute and rampage and bs/reck on cd (almost)

[sullen dove]

yea i mean the new slayer shtick is to spam raging blow almost as much as possible

[turbid bay]

Man my sims demands so much vers

[quartz knot]

What's a good bench mark for single target dmg in mythic plus?

[sullen dove]

pushing back execute and overcapping rage on ramp not uncommon

[runic violet]

raging blow as much as possible? why

[sullen dove]

cuz it has 67% chance to proc a 150% dmg reap in aoe

[runic violet]

oh

[sullen dove]

on 5 targets that all have overwhelmed*

which is why the saving a bladestorm for the start of a new pack is so important

build 8-9 stacks instantly

to start ripping reaps like a chainsaw

[runic violet]

raging blow is priority in rotation? over execute / rampage

[sullen dove]

its like wishy washy depending on target count

[turbid bay]

To be honest its a minimal dps difference

[sullen dove]

but generally if its more than like 8 targets im spamming as many rb's as i can before enrage falls off

maybe still hitting exe at 3 mfe stacks

[runic violet]

hmmm ic

[sullen dove]

idk can try on the cleave dummies

see how much dam rb/reaps do

[queen panther]

IF WA SAYS EXE I EXE

caps

[hollow leaf]

making me choose between legs and ring smh

[runic violet]

imma go run a 10 to feel out "more rb rotation"

[queen panther]

but still

[sullen dove]

yea wa was made mostly for single target

[hollow leaf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413197405561819256/reaptech.gif

the rotation in question

[sullen dove]

but cdr fishing like that is mostly just your preference like at minimum you need to have bs up before the pack dies to use on the next one

[turbid bay]

Nothing wrong with executing when wa tells you, crit was going over it, its not much difference dps wise

[runic violet]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-guy-fat-guy-twerking-guy-twerking-underwater-water-gif-16854530726139158651

[charred birch]

hm, i got soleah trinket in vault.. but it feels kinda bad selecting a good but not bis trinket when you know turbo boost is in like 3 weeks? i guess i can take shoulder instead (for a smaller dps gain currently)

[sullen dove]

if its like 20 targets i just tend to ignore exe until most mobs die

(likely lot of shitter mobs)

[turbid bay]

Oh yeah for sure if its a shitload it matters but like 8-10 its w/e

[sullen dove]

reap until a majority of the pad dies then start caring about executes for bs cdr but yea i mean if u slam exe on wa proc its prolly fine

[quartz knot]

Haven't read talents but multi target execute help with reducing CD timer on bladestorm?

[sullen dove]

only if multiple targets have mfe stacks

which isnt that common

unless youre like swapping your main target which shouldnt be doing much cuz of frenzy

[quartz knot]

Gotcha

[proper onyx]

Just get from hm taz, it’s still a pretty decent trinket for general use

[quartz knot]

Sore how much ST dmg do you usually average (non cleave)?

[sullen dove]

uh i mean i dont rly do much higher than 12s but i think around 3.5-4mil most bosses

idk how much if any raid buffs i had when making up those numbers

but like i remember doin 4m ish on a swampface

and other dps were like 3 or lower

[dire vigil]

Need an opinion here, currently have hero track halls ring and whispers of karesh. Gonna take one of the two rings shown. Whispers is 0.3% more on ST and MT at 723 ilvl, but Omega is crest save. Thoughts? I got myth Araz sword tonight.

[quartz knot]

Ok great, im close to that range 3-3.8

[sullen dove]

yea i mean omega vs whisper is like +/- 3k haste and mast

[olive wraith]

I’d take the higher sim personally

[sullen dove]

idk my greed would just take higher ilvl cuz more ilvl = larger pp

and like omega still super good ring

just maybe would be wanting for more haste

3/4k bit of a big amount to make up

[dire vigil]

I guess I should sim it alongside a crafted haste/mastery ring or some shit

cuz that's too much mastery for sure

[sullen dove]

idk if u have a ton of extra myth track to upgrade crest save could be worth but if u are just like mostly 1 item a week/potentially extending and cant spend all your gildeds then can game and pick lower ilvl better stat

regardless idk turbo boost not horribly far away so 30 gilded difference by then wont mean much

6 ilvl is like .37 overall ilvl little small

[olive wraith]

Crest will be uncapped soon enough

[dire vigil]

I think my ilvl will show 716 regardless through the reset lol

then it prob wont matter cuz in 2, ill max vers neck, shoulders, and the rest of the ring

[turbid bay]

The raid stuff is weird if you end up with soulbinder neck and omega your stats gonna be pretty whack

[undone flower]

When is turbo boost ?

[dire vigil]

i have soulbinder neck

[turbid bay]

Mmm its good but just so little haste between 2 pieces

[olive wraith]

I think people estimate October

[dire vigil]

yeah, and slayer prios more haste than usual right now, correct?

[olive wraith]

Haven’t seen the road ahead graphic in a minute

So idk

Ya slayer really likes haste

[turbid bay]

I find the stats decently balanced atm end of expac verse becoming highly contested as well as haste and mast

[hollow leaf]

my friend asked me how long I'm going to be available to play until next raid comes out

smile

[olive wraith]

Raid what’s that

[undone flower]

The only content that matters

[hollow leaf]

Idk ask me again after tonight

[potent citrus]

stupid question

whats the range for improved whirlwind?

[young swan]

~8 yards

iirc

[ripe raptor]

Does it still makes sense to use recklessness and Avatar in the same macro?

[olive wraith]

Still?

[hollow leaf]

same range as regular ww

which is 8 yards

[olive wraith]

I prefer separate binds

[hollow leaf]

sure, you can have a macro that uses both but it's still good to have them as separate abilities

sometimes you wanna use one and not the other

[turbid bay]

I do multiple binds personally, one for each avatar and reck and one for both and pot

You should seperate so you can reck on its own for pull

[potent citrus]

just trying to think about cleaving with dimensius

[turbid bay]

What you trying to cleave?

[potent citrus]

adds + him

[tribal veldt]

Which tier piece is the worst and we skip out on?

[turbid bay]

Both masses arent cleavable with ww

[hollow leaf]

helm

[potent citrus]

according to archon we're running imp whirlwind on dim

what is that for then

[tribal veldt]

ty

[olive wraith]

Platform probably

[turbid bay]

Yep its for meat cleaver

[hollow leaf]

because you're cleaving adds

and to path into meat cleaver yeah

[turbid bay]

It gives you 4 stacks

Instead of 2

[hollow leaf]

whenever you're going any sort of aoe you always go into meat cleaver

[olive wraith]

Imagine needing to ww every 3rd global

[turbid bay]

Fuck that

[potent citrus]

i seee

is pugging dim meant to be this bad

[turbid bay]

Man ww feels so jank sometimes

[hollow leaf]

pugging is always bad

[turbid bay]

Hate to use it more

[potent citrus]

the aotc dream may be dead this shit is ass

[olive wraith]

Nah you’ll get it

Even if it takes a few more weeks to giga ilvl it

[turbid bay]

I pugged it with some guildies to get aotc. Its possible might just be a bit of a slog

[young swan]

its already pretty easy but it'll be piss by the end of the season

[potent citrus]

i started 2 weeks ago so it'll be incredibly funny if i can get it

[young swan]

pretty sure u can just buy aotc for like 200k

[turbid bay]

You can just ignore stellar cores at this point

[young swan]

its very cheap

[potent citrus]

do people buy clears for stuff like this normally?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[young swan]

yes

[oblique trail]

Very often

Either because they're too lazy, or can't get it on their own for whatever reason

Though typically just for the gear

[potent citrus]

i come from ff14 so thats really weird to see for me

[oblique trail]

FF14 and wow raiding is quite different in this sense

But if you want a comparison

[turbid bay]

Yeah its a bit different in wow

[oblique trail]

It's a bit like buying an ultimate clear for some

Actually bit of a bad comparison, since that'd be more like buying a mythic clear

[turbid bay]

I come from ff14 as well its just a different culture

But yeh as banezi said buying ultimate clears was also a thing

In ff14

[potent citrus]

i know a guy who bought ulti clears and hes an idiot

lol

[oblique trail]

Buy ultimate clears if you want to, just don't go flaunting it

[turbid bay]

I personally love the ultis and like the achievement of clearing them myself

[oblique trail]

👍

[turbid bay]

But people have different goals

[potent citrus]

is that what that service chat spam is then

just people selling clears?

[oblique trail]

Typically yes

You can probably also find a chunk on the LFG tool, for keys

Boosting is just quite prevalent in wow

[sudden tusk]

omega ring owns

[dire vigil]

i took whispers, couldnt make the haste loss work

thanks for assist tho

[sudden tusk]

yuh

[turbid bay]

They really like these heavily favoured stat jewellery in raid

[potent citrus]

is it worth asking aotc groups at this point? ive seen mid p3

[turbid bay]

Like the alpha ring is just all crit. Soulbinder neck all verse. And omega all mast

[oblique trail]

There's no harm in queueing for them if you actually know what to do

[turbid bay]

I would signup if it was me you got nothing to lose

[oblique trail]

Just don't expect to always be invited, since there's a higher likelihood they look for you having already cleared

[potent citrus]

ye

just wondering if its worth my time to ask

in the first place

[young swan]

just slap a note saying "p3 exp" or something similar

[turbid bay]

from personal experience in season 1 have been invited to aotc groups

I hadnt cleared was at a similar point as you

On ansurek

[potent citrus]

which tier was ansurek

[oblique trail]

Nerubar Palace

[turbid bay]

Season 1 of tww

[young swan]

raid tier from about a year ago

[potent citrus]

oh each season is a raid tier then

neat

[oblique trail]

Yes

[young swan]

each season is exactly a raid tier

[oblique trail]

FF a bit unique in only having a raid every 2 major patches

[sinful sundial]

Anyone knows if the recraft ring crest save stills works?

[young swan]

try it and tell us

[potent citrus]

yeah i knew ff was slow but didnt realize it was that slow

[oblique trail]

It's quite a slog by comparison

[white relic]

shit, this is a hard pick. antenna or that juicy juicy ring.

[oblique trail]

But wow is not shining example either sometimes

Especially during the last season of an expansion

[turbid bay]

Yeah ff savage sticks around for a bit too long its like 8 months between them now

[oblique trail]

So far though the past 2 expansions, in DF and SL, we've just had a season 4 that adds all of that expansions raids into 1 season, and scales them up, to give people something to do when waiting for the next expansion

To my knowledge however, this wont happen in TWW

[turbid bay]

Thats a weird way of doing it

[oblique trail]

So we'll prob have a FF length raid tier until Midnight

[turbid bay]

Cant imagine people play much those seasons at least raiders

[potent citrus]

ff also doesnt have an m+ equivalent to keep attention

[oblique trail]

There's a decent bit of return in S4

[runic violet]

HoA... I feel like I'm doing something wrong 🙁

[oblique trail]

If anything it gives people the chance to raid a tier they didn't experience already, and time to experience new classes and specs they also didn't try out before

[young swan]

stop pressing bt

press rb more

[edgy widget]

when in doubt, go with which either the biggest gain or the one you're least likely to see again/replace
personally I don't like antenna though, too much trouble that I CBA to deal with

[young swan]

make sure u ahve BS for every pack

[runic violet]

ok

[oblique trail]

I personally enjoyed Ret in S4 of DF, just doing keys on it

But would never main it

And it's still a better solution than having an extra 3-4 months of a raid tier when it's already drained people

I.e look at how FFs savage raiding just perishes by the time a .1, .3 or .5 patch drops

[turbid bay]

Yeah after 8 clears you are basically done

[potent citrus]

im trying to give frost DK a shot but the 70-80 levelling is a slog

[young swan]

thats another thing people like to sell

level boosts

usually around 100k gold for 70-80

[potent citrus]

d2 raid levels of boosting

[olive wraith]

I’m sorry but this looks cursed

[oblique trail]

More or less, I made do this tier by just doing helper groups

[hollow leaf]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nXyvA2LwRydhtNExtMSp3p madge

not 5.7

[turbid bay]

Yeah like i kinda like running the helper and parse groups but outside of that its just eh

[eternal sundial]

Bandai @oblique trail killed fated

[oblique trail]

Parse groups are more boring than fun to me

[potent citrus]

o bruh parse groups exist here aswell?

[young swan]

eh

not really

[turbid bay]

Not really afaik

[oblique trail]

It does, but also not really

[young swan]

they used to be a big thing back in like

2018

[ebon venture]

So now that we have a third crafting piece potential, for M+, what should i prioritize bracer and belt for embelishment and remove ascension from weapon?

[oblique trail]

It's few and far between you can find a parse group

[turbid bay]

Its more common in ff then wow weirdly enough

[oblique trail]

Fated must die

[olive wraith]

That’s what i did

[oblique trail]

Frankly it's because in FF, people have no other content to do really

If they want to pve

[void jewel]

how much haste do we want, until we go more into vers/mastery?

[oblique trail]

They can do ultimates, but that's a bigger investment than just reclearing savage

Or they might've already cleared all the ultimates

[turbid bay]

Yeh i cant be assed to grind crystalline conflict either

[olive wraith]

Sims tell us

[sullen dove]

they jus gonna release expansion sooner

[ebon venture]

did u use duskthread lining?

[sullen dove]

were talkin about that at blizzcon

[turbid bay]

Same with ulti re-runs doesnt interest me, outside of a handful of tokens

[olive wraith]

Is that the verse one ? If so, yes

[sullen dove]

maybe like extra 1-2 months this tier perhaps but doubt its a full extra s4 amount of time

[turbid bay]

People are saying feb?

For expac

[eternal sundial]

Thank you benevolent uncle of banzia on Blizzard HQ

[potent citrus]

half the people i know did all the ultis then came to wow

[turbid bay]

Eh i still love the ultis and savage but content so dry between them

[eternal sundial]

M+ doesnt exist in FF does it

[smoky vale]

no

[oblique trail]

I've only cleared UwU, tried a bit of FRU

[turbid bay]

Na

Fru was kinda fun

[oblique trail]

But they just require a lot of time investment that I cba putting in if pugging

[turbid bay]

Crystallised time was a headspin of a mech

[sullen dove]

20 minute fights

[potent citrus]

come do dsr...

[brave totem]

do we need Intimidating Shout for this week affix?

[oblique trail]

Idm the long fight times

[turbid bay]

The fight times are fine

[eternal sundial]

Pugging prog sounds aids

[oblique trail]

But when you prog a 18-20 minute fight across 1.5-2k pulls if you are doing the hardest of them (or are just bad) then it can be ab it much

[oblique trail]

Maybe one day

[olive wraith]

Which affix is it?

[oblique trail]

I can definitely clear it

[brave totem]

Ascendant

[eternal sundial]

Queue 12 and forget affix

[oblique trail]

Just haven't tried yet

[brave totem]

orbs

[olive wraith]

Idk what ascendant means

Oh

[turbid bay]

Crystallised time is a prime example. Put the hardest mech 15mins into the fight

[olive wraith]

No

Just shockwave them

[oblique trail]

sim it angle

[turbid bay]

Yep

The sim was so nice for those sorta mechs

[brave totem]

aight ty

[turbid bay]

Cut so much prog time

Even for the exa dodges

Like TOP exa is pretty rough without a sim

[sullen dove]

feast.

[radiant plank]

https://tenor.com/view/job-jumpscare-job-application-job-meme-job-jumpscare-gif-5102454363566376023

[sullen dove]

why is it bleeding

[eternal sundial]

Fyrakk p3

Just less aids ig

[sullen dove]

fyrakk p3 was like

rly easy for 80% of your raid

[turbid bay]

Eh its different beast

[eternal sundial]

Complete shizo until they nerfed it

[eternal sundial]

Idk ion play FF so i have no reference

[sullen dove]

i had fun holding a seed there

[eternal sundial]

Was fun ye

[turbid bay]

Crystallised is demanding cause all 8 members need to know all 8 different positions and debuff

Fyrakk is more a few players

[oblique trail]

Being a seed player in P3 was either relaxing or awful depending on the rest of your raid

[steel shard]

is arcanocore actualy good or just simbait?

[eternal sundial]

This would be so funny in wow cuz of weakauras

[sullen dove]

its def instant hell if u get a circle on you

that is rly cringe

to drop seed put tornado out

and cant control random swirly spawn under your shit

[oblique trail]

If your raid was really bad at spatial awareness then being a seed holder just becamse inf difficulty

[sullen dove]

like yea theoretically backup nearby

[oblique trail]

Even if you stand on the opposite side of the boss

[sullen dove]

but like nah

i think i have vid of me doing some matrix dodges with seed on my kill

was epic

[turbid bay]

Yeah i guess you could probably weak aura it out. But not having weak auras makes mechs like that fun

[eternal sundial]

I mean ye if the wa just says Marker X like on brood or whatever

[oblique trail]

I spaced out on our kill and almost wiped us

[eternal sundial]

It's rlly boring

[oblique trail]

Truly unfortunate

[eternal sundial]

Uheldigt mentioned

[turbid bay]

https://youtu.be/DuRYvLTugpc?si=2IvS-ygc70BdqnJZ

This is the mech for reference

7 min guide for a 40 sec mech

[sullen dove]

Hector describing sugar riot add phase

[oblique trail]

hector

[sullen dove]

he’s a funny fella

[turbid bay]

Fuck me

[oblique trail]

I have my qualms with him, but mostly due to the fact that FF just has multiple ways of doing things and his just ends up more popular (later down the line)

So as someone who progs early savage, I have to eventually adjust or just not play nearly as often

[sullen dove]

yea it’s annoying when there’s like multiple ways to do somethin and ppl are like “nah I can’t swap”

[oblique trail]

Some of his strat choices I also really do not agree with

[turbid bay]

Yeah that shit is painful

We had a guy that did videos for our server and people refused to do it any other way even tho the strat is just bad

[sullen dove]

never raided in ff before this tier since I actually caught up to my friends in story, (also not doing shit anymore cuz school hours bad for lining up with eu ppl)

[turbid bay]

Was on materia oce server

[sullen dove]

but dancing green felt like such a cool boss

[turbid bay]

Yeah it was sick

[sullen dove]

First and only savage killed yet but idk everything about it felt perfect

[oblique trail]

Dancing is a good first boss for sure

[sullen dove]

playing picto is bit aware

[oblique trail]

I was physr though so I was mental afk for the "hard" mechanic

[turbid bay]

It was a great difficulty for a first boss

[sullen dove]

anti pay phone trying to cast during arcadion

[oblique trail]

Tried playing melee a few times on it and I just couldn't do the funky floor mechanic

[sullen dove]

but otherwise just vibe epic music

[turbid bay]

Our group struggled with the checker squares and spotlight mech

[sullen dove]

Yea the floor is a big deal with diff strats

[turbid bay]

At the start

[sullen dove]

Like hector vs rp does melee some different stupid way

Like “if you are on the east side and it spawns north first go south”

or some bs

My mt was complaining about dat tryina get ppl to q

ranged just stands in same 1 spot every time lul

[turbid bay]

Yeah the strats for that were so stupid

[oblique trail]

More or less

Look for tile with spotlight on it, that's your safespot always

Brain off press buttons

[turbid bay]

Yep

You could solve the mech the instant it starts but just convuluted strats

The priority system that people have make no sense

[sullen dove]

my biggest dislike was the debuff after first arcadion

I ain’t tryina look at a random ass debuff and form a conga while looking at froggy dudes

the 4 direction frog guys was fun tho

[turbid bay]

Oh true that one

[charred birch]

what the is the preffered m+ sim for fury? is dungeon route sim OK?

[oblique trail]

People did conga for that, since in theory it makes you not have to think of 1 of the mechanics

[runic violet]

ok... I did more RB this time. +10 arakara

[turbid bay]

The intermission part

[oblique trail]

Just do patchwerk 5 min 1 target. Adjust with raidbuffs etc if you care, but this setup is gonna do the job more or less always

[sullen dove]

Conga just means line up based on timers no

[turbid bay]

The conga strat was good

Yeh

[oblique trail]

Yes

[turbid bay]

Shorts at front of hitbox

[sullen dove]

but like was the deciding what spot your timer correlated too

[turbid bay]

Yeh

[sullen dove]

like if u look too late and it ticks down too much sometimes eh

[turbid bay]

Yeh that can suck sorta need to camp your debuffs

You can just look at the party list

Anf get a idea

[oblique trail]

You can preposition before the frogs happen

[sullen dove]

put that shit insta middle of screen at 200% size

[oblique trail]

Don't care about anyone elses timer

Just yours

[turbid bay]

Of where you slot in

[charred birch]

alright, just a little tricky for trinkets i guess

[oblique trail]

If they stand wrong, they stand wrong, and you can't do anything about it

[oblique trail]

Trinkets for m+ is more of an experience and common sense scenario

I'm not playing this season, but a typical setup is an on-use + good passive that's not reliant on uptime, and if it is, use it if you can guarantee high uptime (like Brand or Anvil from DF)

[charred birch]

yeah true.. anyway... im not sure about my vault.. with 5t 1min sim i get a +0,5% upgrade from myth shoulders (that i would need to catalyze), 1,5% upgrade from tier helm (shitty stats), 2,7% from soleah trinket (which feels pretty bad to take due to turbo boost coming up... any ideas?

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-eating-fern-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-gif-10218412293017701117

[charred birch]

so long term i guess hsoulders are best but are the worst for now

[olive wraith]

How is your bladestorm that high

Still looks like way too much bt

[turbid bay]

Just unbind bt and replace with ww or rb

[olive wraith]

No

[turbid bay]

Haha

[runic violet]

🙁

[runic violet]

bladestorm should be lower?

[olive wraith]

Shouldn’t be higher than rb

[turbid bay]

Your rb should be higher then bt and bs

[olive wraith]

Can you talk me through a pull

[sullen dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/466857693617979402/1415029835880730785/image.png?ex=68cb9bfa&is=68ca4a7a&hm=7017bc1fc15f802200267688e38d76848382846274fabd2f929fd214c4fd791d& my breakdown of a 10-12 priory idr level exactly

[runic violet]

I do cds on cd and rampage/execute liberally ... and RB over other things when available

[sullen dove]

rb should be the liberally for the most part

[olive wraith]

You have to be pressing bt a lot for it to be that high

And rb not that much

[runic violet]

damn

[olive wraith]

Actually

[runic violet]

ok

[olive wraith]

Can you drop your talents

[sullen dove]

Yea I mean other buttons are like a dance between hitting ramp more on cd for lower target and like spamming rb on 8 or more while enraged, but like for sure too much bt

[turbid bay]

Are you 4set?

[olive wraith]

His reap is top

[sullen dove]

Can’t imagine reap would be that high if not

[runic violet]

yea

[olive wraith]

Can I see your talents

[sullen dove]

Yea I mean again think need a lot more verse but stats shouldn’t rly affect dmg breakdown %s

[sullen dove]

seems aight

[olive wraith]

Take some bt talents off

And swap your am capstone

[sullen dove]

O yea no depths is bad

but bt thing don’t think that significant u just use odyns and lose some bt talents

[olive wraith]

I was thinking maybe bud was running storm of steel

[sullen dove]

If u like odyns can do it if don’t care for it not a big deal deft xp is still rly good

I don’t even think that gives u more bs no

[olive wraith]

2nd bs

[sullen dove]

1 extra charge would only net like 1-2 more bs’s a key and it does less dmg

[olive wraith]

So maybe he was just perma spinning

[sullen dove]

Cuz it can only cooldown one at a time

[olive wraith]

Oh really?

[sullen dove]

I think it does less dmg at least

[olive wraith]

Even with mfe

[sullen dove]

I mean like any over capped cdr would go to next one so it’s like a few extra maybe

[olive wraith]

True I guess

[sullen dove]

But certainly not anywhere close to doubling the number of bs’s you can do

[olive wraith]

Idk that bs number is huge lol

[runic violet]

what now?

[sullen dove]

unbridled ferocity for depths on insanity typically just way better

[olive wraith]

The talent under anger management, switch it

Actually one sec

[sullen dove]

Since uf sucks and doi is more uptime during burst/cds

[runic violet]

ok

[coral salmon]

Quick question, how much vers we need for 16+ keys, getting 1 shot on some mechanics on psf and some other dungeons

[runic violet]

depth of insanity is better?

[sullen dove]

Are you using d stance

[olive wraith]

CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQjBmNzMMjBzswMzMzMMDzstNzYmZWAmZmxMjlhhZmZAAAQM22GYBMBzwEYG2AA

try running this

its the wowhead build

[sullen dove]

can start with that if not big 20% dr can turn off and on any time

[hollow leaf]

Send a log, it's probably getting double casted on

Vers won't even begin to save you, let alone in a 16 which is a pretty low key in comparison

[coral salmon]

Half of time but feels like i have to run whole dungeon on it

[runic violet]

ok

[olive wraith]

Also. Don’t use bs on cd really. Ideally you want to use it on a fresh pull. And only cast it again if you can have it up for next pull as well

[hollow leaf]

Ye

[runic violet]

hmmm

[sullen dove]

Think at baseline just rly try to not hit bt unless can hit nothing else and yea saving bs as you walk into a new pack is like everything about how we can do aoe now

the rb reap proc only works if targets have overwhelmed stacks which a majority of them are gonna come from bs

[olive wraith]

im not the best player. but this is from a 15 hoa

bt should be much lower. and bs is good. but it isnt my 2nd in the breakdown

[coral salmon]

Gonna take some logs tomorrow when i play keys again

[hollow leaf]

👍

[olive wraith]

Are you taking avoidable damage by chance

[coral salmon]

Sometimes yes, but on psf its more about potshots, imbale and thunderclap. Getting hit by those and running out of def cd.

[olive wraith]

What ilvl are you

[coral salmon]

712

[olive wraith]

Hmm that shouldn’t be it then

[hollow leaf]

Are you actually getting oneshot by the ability or are you already low

[coral salmon]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/the-maelstrom/Dublo

[charred birch]

the might have nasty overlaps with those things, but running a few extra % vers or not is probably not gonna make any noticable difference

[coral salmon]

I could take littlebit more avoidance, got lots of speed atm, i hate slow running on some dungeons 😂

[dense jewel]

What's the best way to use Cursed stone idol? I'm having a tough time getting over the 1s channel

[olive wraith]

I mean you’re only ever gonna have like 5% avoidance ish

[olive wraith]

Cast mid charge

But also. Kinda just gotta natty cast it when you’re in melee

[charred birch]

what vers are you at now btw? you should run quite a bit of vers anyway

[coral salmon]

5%

[charred birch]

oh, then you could definately up that quite a bit and actually get some defensive benefit aswell

[olive wraith]

Sims haven’t been telling you to grab some vers?

[coral salmon]

Not so far, but i have started to make vers gear, and drop littlebit on haste /mastery

I could drop crit rating to around 1-2k too and haste mastery wont get that big hit

[charred birch]

i havent been simming much yet.. but lots of the m+ pushing fury warriors are running like 20% vers

[dense jewel]

would that be a macro with charge or just a seperate button while charging? and how many targets does it need to really start performing better than passive trinkets?

[olive wraith]

I have an idol macro and a regular charge

As far as target count idk. Will also depend what trinks you have

That’s a sim question. Either 8/10 target for a semi short duration

I usually do around 1min if I’m double checking that

[charred birch]

i have just gotten use to having idol in its on button and casting it, felt "unreliable" with the cast sequence macros anyway

personally i think there have been much worse trinkets than idol, since you can run while you cast it, it's not that bad

[dense jewel]

that's fair, and likely what I'll end up doing

[olive wraith]

Ugh lfg is dead rn

[oblique trail]

Trinkets with any sort of cast time or condition are often blown out of proportion with how bad they are to use

I.e Transmitter was treated as the worst trinket known to man because you had to slightly think ahead when you use it

[opaque quail]

By rule of thumb, would we take a second Myth track weapon from the vault if we already have 1 myth track + crafted with the embel?

[olive wraith]

Thinking hard

[rough torrent]

yeah eventually

[olive wraith]

Do you raid prog

For keys double mythic weps is better

[opaque quail]

i like to focus on raid more yes

[olive wraith]

Wep emb is bis then im pretty sure

[opaque quail]

ty

[olive wraith]

I’d sim just to be sure

Just had a dh tank fall off in arakara first pull

Reset cause resi. He did it again

[dire vigil]

W

[olive wraith]

Honestly couldn’t help but laugh

Resi is such a good change

[lavish pond]

So, RIP mythic items for Astral Antenna? ;p

[sudden tusk]

that belt is very good

[dense jewel]

also you can just buy a mythic antenna soonish

[sudden tusk]

tho its kinda the same as soulbinder belt

[dense fulcrum]

i wouldn't get hc antenna

[sudden tusk]

so prob helm/belt angle

[lavish pond]

i already have another mythic belt. The Improvisational girdl...

[dire vigil]

do u have myth helm?

[lavish pond]

how is that? ;'d

[haughty sparrow]

always socket

[lavish pond]

No

[dire vigil]

then u got an easy choice lol

[lavish pond]

its a hero one with a gem

[dire vigil]

doesnt matter, take the myth helm

[vast eagle]

guys would it be worth it to take a mythic belt to keep it for when disc is getting nerfed? otherwise would take a socket

[dense fulcrum]

i got the same myth elm last week simmed kinda good for me even if it had crit

like 1% to 723

[dire vigil]

Just cata the myth helm bruthr

[lavish pond]

its not an easy choice, cause my helm is tier set. if i use this one i dont have catalyst chargess.

and also that astral antenna sims +50k more than any other items wtf

[dire vigil]

It's ok if you need to bank it for a week

It's a better upgrade than taking a socket, and the belt you already have can be cat'd to mastery haste later on

[dense jewel]

there will be a dinar system in the .5 patch, if you have killed mythic loom you can use a token for the trinket

[lavish pond]

yes thats right

[lavish pond]

yeah but i need to kill mythic boss, i only reach 8/8 on heroic raid.

[vast eagle]

thanks mate

[dense jewel]

you can use it on a heroic version as well, or use it too get mythic M+ trinkets if you have full 12's done

[versed raptor]

Thoughts? I have pacemaker myth, sacbrood hero. Leaning towards myth gloves for that reason

[humble portal]

Myth tier slot all day long

Finally got my myth antenna today

[vocal sundial]

T.T

[tulip glade]

At what point do I drop my disc belt? Wowhead says that only mythic track belts will replace it, but when I sim hero track belts they beat out the disc belt. Does the sim not take into account the extra damage from the belt somehow?

[vocal sundial]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/class-tuning-incoming-–-september-17/1954931

blizard hate fury warrior i feel

[humble portal]

That's a year old

[dense jewel]

Nice troll lmao

[humble portal]

Recognised those nerfs instantly

[unique vigil]

why don't more warriors run odyns fury build? this shit is 🔥

[uneven path]

Well it's only 1-2 % better on aoe and its worse on singel target

[ornate gust]

I do play it. I find it more fun 🤩

[unique vigil]

but in m+ most of the time ur in aoe..

[uneven path]

and OF does piss dmg

[uneven path]

I agree

[radiant perch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dhKgms16t1jE4npvm44FYh
heh.. trinket is good? 🙂

[unique vigil]

maybe for certain dungeons like streets i wouldnt run it

[ornate gust]

And that’s OF helps to kill adds with any boss very quickly

[feral egret]

You already have myth tier shoulders?

[vocal sundial]

just saw that..jebaited..my bad

[radiant perch]

no I dont, its shoulders or hands

[unique vigil]

for ST only trinket is good

[uneven path]

Execute helps kill off any boss faster

[unique vigil]

also isnt that "bis" ring?

[dense fulcrum]

for st is bis and is pretty good, keep in mind my 704 scream still outperforming hc or even some myth one in st lol

but sim urself and see

[radiant perch]

already did 🙂

[uneven path]

In terms of dmg done ?

Or sims ?

[dense fulcrum]

both

[uneven path]

Nice

[ornate gust]

👀

[oblique trail]

It's from S1

[feral egret]

I think go for the tier shoulders, save a charge for next week if you hit double jeopardy

[unique vigil]

i would like to know as far as trinkets go - is Eradicating Arcanocore good for m+ or only raid?

[ornate gust]

Are they serious?

Fury
All ability damage reduced by 3%.
Bladestorm damage reduced by 10%.
Odyn’s Fury damage reduced by 15%.
Mountain Thane: Strength of the Mountain increases Bloodthirst and Rampage damage by 20% (was 15%).

[oblique trail]

It's from s1

[uneven path]

xdd

Holy

[oblique trail]

Look at the date

[ornate gust]

Why he posted it here 😡

[ornate gust]

Dudddeee. I was so maaaad

[dense fulcrum]

u got me ngl

[serene moat]

i thought head piece bis would be hard to achieve this season...

[dense fulcrum]

didnt check date

[dense fulcrum]

was about to alt f4

[serene moat]

since its dimensius/boe

but well, there is crafting

[uneven path]

When I saw OF nerf I knew it was from S1

[ornate gust]

Ban him from posting 🤡

[oblique trail]

Just use your eyes, like they should

[flat river]

ANTENNAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[uneven path]

What do I even take

[unique vigil]

sim xd

[dense elbow]

Gz

[uneven path]

Well according to sim I take half a spark and craft second weapon next week

[unique vigil]

should hold for myth wep tbh

[uneven path]

Did last season

Never stopped holding

[unique vigil]

F

[abstract violet]

any tips for simming m+ aoe?

[unique vigil]

i got one first week of playing my war but it was crit/vers sadly

[uneven path]

Yeh, but you can kinda build rings and shit around that, but I think I will go with the M neck from raid and craft ring this week, and hope for the miracle next week

[serene moat]

can you use "technomancer's gift" on engi heads to add a socket?

[dusty brook]

when to replace belt? got dawnbreaker belt in vault

[olive wraith]

Sim to see if it’s better

[olive wraith]

I’m pretty sure you can’t

[dusty brook]

but the delv belt is not BIS this season?

[olive wraith]

No

[tulip glade]

raidbots wants me to gem with just mast/haste. that's not right is it?

[iron portal]

Well either you have low amount of those

OR you didnt choose properly

Show sim and Maybe we can help you

[tulip glade]

humm. I will look it over again in that case. must have messed it up somehow

[iron portal]

Well , make sure to have Replace existing gems checked

[tulip glade]

ok, will do. thanks!~

[twilit harbor]

tough choice, i'm thinking ara-kara is a more versatile trinket + i can always get arcanocore from raid anyway

[iron portal]

@tulip glade

[arctic sinew]

Sac for sure

[iron portal]

Well depends what you aim for. Arcanocore will be better in raid and if you have people that might take it from you still, might be worth

Ara is solid trinket but gets outclassed by others both in ST and aoe, in some cases even with HC versions

[pseudo carbon]

Can you counter fractillus wall break with heroic leap? (So it doesnt fuckup the wallbreak)

[twilit harbor]

hmm i might have wait till after reclear tomorrow. saving 15 crests isn't a bad thing either - that'd leave me with enough spare to fully upgrade another myth track piece in addition to the craft this week

[iron portal]

Then answer is clear, patience is the key

[tulip glade]

should I have only max colors selected when checking my gems? replace existing gems and enchants is checked as reqired.

[iron portal]

No

[serene moat]

Google said you can add another gem socket next to tinker socket. Worth a try I'd say. It still Sims 20k better than any other head piece. That would even be better if you cannot socket it, I guess.

[tulip glade]

thanks raz

[uneven ice]

Day 1 Back as Warrior

[tulip glade]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2fPNg6GJCpNZgTD8DHNo13 It wants me to change all my gems to mastery and versatility and I can not figure out why for the life of me.

[uneven ice]

Day 3 Back as Warrior

[cobalt relic]

gg

fuarrrrrrrrkkkkkkkkkk

[rough torrent]

those are good stats

[iron portal]

Well your gear is not yet very refined so I dont see anything inherently wrong, Try different ring enchants too

[cobalt relic]

wait no way

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

[rough torrent]

wouldn't bother regemming tho for .1% increase and your items arent maxed yet

[pale lava]

mods about to have a mental breakdown from all the s1 nerfs stuff

[iron portal]

Bait ?

[stiff barn]

Must be

[pale lava]

it's s1 nerfs

[iron portal]

Cause i dont see any post 🙂

[pale lava]

from heroic palace

[iron portal]

Odyn fury nerf was dead giveaway

[stiff barn]

Imagine needing OF right now

[tulip glade]

ok, thanks for the help once more!

[cobalt relic]

ah

I got baited

gg

[iron portal]

@cobalt relic i am all up for funnny memes

But you dont want panic to spread here

[cobalt relic]

dw

deleted it

[iron portal]

It takes days for people to stop asking the nsame question then

[cobalt relic]

did not know myself

[iron portal]

Who baited you

[potent sphinx]

Warrior discord 101: nerfs are imminent, even when class is dog

[pale lava]

always check #updates-midnight or wowhead for buffs/nerfs

if u can't find recent stuff there it means they don't exist

[iron portal]

Unless it happenes literally when Archi is in coma

[pale lava]

it's sadly PTSD from getting nerfed for no reason

people are mentally programmed to expect doom

[cobalt relic]

scroll up

[iron portal]

Why

[cobalt relic]

.

that guy

[pale lava]

but my advice is to just enjoy fury right now

and be happy

[iron portal]

Ah i see

[tender forge]

what are you guys crafting next? i have wep at 720 and bracers at 704

[vague copper]

Pacemaker mythtrack worth going for (use hero)?
Can go for myth-track tiershoulders aswell, they both sim in ~40k range 😛

[iron portal]

Anything you are missing and wont get on high ilvl anytime soon

[queen flame]

guys, would you take cursed stone idol or tierset legs , both on mythic track?

[tender forge]

i still have a champ ring so maybe ring

[iron portal]

Do you raid mythic?

[vague copper]

Nop

Not even heroic

[iron portal]

Depends on what you focus the most

[queen flame]

just doing m+, 12-14 keys. not raiding, sometimes pugs hero raids

[iron portal]

Depending if you have decent trinkets already, I would consider just going for shoulders

[vague copper]

Yeah I do aswell, have bis hero

[iron portal]

then you might benefit more from the trinket tbh

But up to you, i assume you have hero shoulders already

[queen flame]

is the trinket ass to use? right now runnign with 2 passive trinkets

[iron portal]

Really depends what trinkets you have right now

[queen flame]

arakara and void pactstone

[iron portal]

Oh yea go for Ston idol mate

Legs are more likely to appear in vault again than Trinket

And you have ass of an trinket

The other guy for exemple has good trinkets already

and doesnt really raid , so for him the Shoulders would prob bring more benefit longterm

[karmic fiber]

Did you guys go for a ring/neck craft after your weapon + wrist?

[warm wharf]

vault has yet again failed to yield me a myth weapon, do i just delete my warrior at this point?

[abstract mountain]

how strong r the reshi boots? have them in vault heroic or myth shoulders. what do i take?

[rocky kindle]

Do any of you happen to know if you Catalyst Mythic track boots you get the Reshii wrap boots or the other ones from the raid ? (I doubt it'll be Reshii boots but one can hope)

[cedar bloom]

W vault?

[rocky kindle]

They are in my vault so can't just take out to check as i got other decent options

[pseudo carbon]

Reshi boots arent tierset, so i think no

[safe ledge]

Currently sitting at 47% haste (28,641), is it to much or should I carry on stacking it?

[warm wharf]

you're 7-8k over where you should be

[pale falcon]

Follow what the robot tells you

[rocky kindle]

Thanks

[sour frigate]

Better invest some mastery ig

[abstract mountain]

would u grab heroic reshi boots or myth shoulders from vault?

[warm wharf]

myth shoulders, hero boots you can get very easily from raid

[sour frigate]

If u not getting boots nowhere near id pick boots

[sour frigate]

Very easily (not having a single pair across 5 chars)

[graceful rapids]

anyone find Mythic Sacbrood simming quite strong. Im surprised considering Antenna was so hype but sacbrood seems strong. ig it is abit RNG

[warm wharf]

i have one on both warr and dh

[sour frigate]

Lucky

[warm wharf]

rng issue

[sour frigate]

Skill issue

Gotta roll better

Tbh i rolled and sold 3 antennas and got 2 in vault lol

[warm wharf]

sims deadass told me to drop 1.7k mastery btw

[unique vigil]

can catalyst if you want the mastery back instead of the haste, but probably your haste was low

[vivid flower]

Is it worth or even possible to craft 2 weapons, or should i just use sparks for something else?

[unique vigil]

check 5t 5min sim too to see if worth for m+, depending on what u prio i guess

not sure if fury runs any other sims for aoe

[warm wharf]

5300 crit, 21400 haste 19000 mastery 9800 vers
6200 crit, 20400 haste 20700 mastery 8200 vers

[unique vigil]

im guessing mastery also loses value then you want vers at a certain point

[warm wharf]

both my haste and mastery are past the dr line

in both cases

[unique vigil]

so yeah, vers will be better then

[warm wharf]

either way i'll just be able to catalyst it later if my stats change

[unique vigil]

yep

:)

i took a crit/vers helm today on my war -.-

[warm wharf]

i'm still missing a myth wep unfortunately

[unique vigil]

other option was wrist and a crit > haste ring sadly

i also have a crit vers wep lmfao

[rotund spindle]

Should I replace DISC with a 720 crafted belt? For example Critcake has a 710 belt instead of DISC? Though sim says DISC is better. :/

[unique vigil]

havent looked at warrior's stat weights since but it seems to be fine for now, just lower on ST i think

[unique vigil]

sim it

[last pewter]

What is the optimal sim options for M+ encounters?

[rotund spindle]

I heard DISC will be nerfed is that true ?

[unique vigil]

yes it will be nerfed

in next patch

[rustic zodiac]

myth belt sims higher then DISC anyways

[rotund spindle]

maybe you use wrong power in it

[rustic zodiac]

0.6% single target normally war buffs

[unique vigil]

iirc run crit in disc

[rustic zodiac]

i mean its 701 vs a 723 belt so

[unique vigil]

for raid either crit or mastery depends i guess

[warm wharf]

701 with only secondary stat procs vs permanent str and secondaries

[rustic zodiac]

yep and the stam is underrated to

[unique vigil]

does anyone know how to analyze stat weight sims here

[warm wharf]

what about them

[unique vigil]

oh i see its saying i need more haste lmao

2.3k haste is prob what i lost from my crit/vers helm and wep tbh

[warm wharf]

it just says you get most dps from haste and vers increases atm

[unique vigil]

ty

[warm crag]

stat weight sim: explode

[warm crag]

read the yellow box, if you're brave you can click read more too

[warm crag]

do i take feather or final mythic tier

[radiant plank]

Mystic tier

[warm crag]

interesting

[viscid tree]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/p1tij2qmdtkPX2ADfxFVu5 anyone know why the prism sims so low?

[warm crag]

prism is not good for fury

[viscid tree]

so that sim is actually correct?

that trink seems like it would be better than a void touched

[sudden tusk]

prism is only good for burst classes

you're also not simming your myth wep at 723

will be a major uppie

[viscid tree]

alr thanks bros

[polar narwhal]

You also have Haste on belt while you should probably sim if you need Crit or Haste, or any other config.

[vivid flower]

Hi. Is it worth to craft a second weapon? Or should i use sparks for something else?

[polar narwhal]

Do you have Ascension Embellishment on your weapon?

[vivid flower]

Yup

[polar narwhal]

Then you should craft bracers with Writhing Armor. Its free with the Heroic Crest from Dimensius quest or Reputation, and you can spend those 60 Gilded somewhere else.

Bracers have the least impactful stats.

[vivid flower]

Alright, thanks 🙂

[polar narwhal]

But you can of course, always sim it.

[earnest olive]

if we have crafted wep and wrists already and have myth track waist we make ring or neck yeah?

[warm crag]

you can just sim your crafting options

crafting a mythic offpiece is usually pretty good

[ornate gust]

what does prism mean?

[maiden shuttle]

cant get a myth track weapon, should I just use the crest and go for two crafted weps?

[jolly mist]

is this actually a ring angle

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/v2VsYUhmrhB8J5iALji5T6
might have simmed it wrong but

idk

its saying ring

xd

[compact siren]

Socket

Loot the tier and feather

[warm crag]

extendus maximus

[compact siren]

And?

[viscid tree]

the trinket name

[iron portal]

Only cost me 10k

@flat cargo

cant f in tag valkyrs

ok its gone

[warm crag]

crazy that you pinged vel for normal dh boots

[iron portal]

Yea she loves when I do that

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/the-horse-of-suspicion-and-distrust-gif-12657911522319693236

[uneven dagger]

Hey, I've just returned to wow after many years and have never played fury before. So I'm a total noob. I'm pretty confused by a lot of the rotations I've looked at. My main question is when doing aoe as slayer do i weave whirlwind in every 3rd cast? (Once blasdstorm and roar are on c/d) thanks!

[iron portal]

Every 4th cast, in aoe you want to cleave everything

[uneven dagger]

I was getting confused with this

Thanks!

[iron portal]

Talent below you also take..

[uneven dagger]

That's the issue with just copy pasting a talent build!

[iron portal]

Also depends where you copy paste from

in Wowhead and in this discord, all aoe builds have both those talents

[uneven dagger]

It's from wowhead

But the rotation only tells you the opener. Wasn't sure where to go after that. Thanks for your help

[cosmic lark]

any suggestion ?

[warm crag]

simulationcraft or pick the somewhat bis trinket

[cosmic lark]

i have those trinkets actually

so probably heroic bis trinket better than arak myth

[iron portal]

Sim it

[warm crag]

taking a hc arcanocore from vault is so grief its not even believable

[iron portal]

Also fair point

[slate mica]

bloodthirst has a higher chance to proc reap than raging blow ? but we only bloodthirst as slayer when RB and rampage on Cd?

[potent citrus]

raging blow buffs rampage

[slate mica]

our no.1 dmg in dungeons is reap the s torm though right

wouldnt u want to prc that much as poss

[warm crag]

read the 4p and run the numbers

assuming you stack 10x overwhelmed the chance is the same

[iron portal]

You clearly havent read guides nor checked our 4 set yet

So yea do that first but look at 4set

[slate mica]

nah i have 2% x 10 = 20%

[signal steeple]

Astral antenna is kinda busted 😳

[warm crag]

yeah bloodthirst also has a 20% chance to reap against one target

[iron portal]

And also, 150% effectivnes

[spring torrent]

yo guys, quick question about simming. What fighting style, number of bosses and time should i chose? :)

[slim coral]

St 5 min

[potent sphinx]

Helmet is 2nd bis, very close to the BOE drop

[slim coral]

Patchwork

[warm crag]

depends on what you want out of it, theres no one size fits all answer

[spring torrent]

And how many for aoe?

[warm crag]

you can start with 1t patchwerk 5 min since thats kinda the agreed upon standard for st sims but the rest is literally whatever you want

[spring torrent]

Alright, thank you guys :D

[slim coral]

Aoe sims are kinda useless ngl

[spring torrent]

I wasnt sure if my sim setting was messed up because i have hero track stone idol and so leahs, and i got myth broodsack from vault and its massivley in the negatives

[slim coral]

What content are you wanting to do

M+?

[spring torrent]

Just m+

[signal steeple]

Delves

[slim coral]

Then I’d probably suggest stone idol and sac brood but soleahs can be good

[spring torrent]

Thanks! :)

[eternal compass]

I havent opened vault yet since im at work but in case i get another myth wep would it be worth to switch to threads instead of ascendance? For m+ i suppose it is but raiding?

[slim coral]

It’s pretty minor either way tbh

[fathom jay]

Does simming not include gem variations? because wowhead says to use 1 of each gem color for the blasphemite but the sim just told me to use 2x deadly onyx, 2x quick ruby and 2x deadly emerald and now it won't change no matter how many gems I mark, it doesn't even show what gems would do less dps or whatever, like it's not even reading them as options in the sim? - I both find the gem choices odd in (why does it want crit on all the gems) but also that it doesn't want all 4 colours??

[radiant plank]

select the

box that forces sim to use all colours

[fathom jay]

Oh I'm blind... The "Show Gem/Enchant Variations" on the result screen?

[radiant plank]

no

[fathom jay]

Double blind. I'll try again, thanks

[slim coral]

How’s you get pushed off the Zskarn fight

I just saw that clip

[radiant plank]

idk wtf happened there

[thick iron]

Does anybody know how much of a damage increase skyfury is for us in m+ roughly

[radiant plank]

2-3%

[lost vigil]

Been off fury for a bit but just made the swap back. Curious, simming myself and I currently have a 723 and 710 weapon with two sparks. I simmed a 720 weapon with all stat options and ascension vs crafted bracers and belt with dusk thread and those simmed 1% higher than the weapon. Is there something I could be overlooking or am I just misremembering how important the OH weapon is?

[fathom jay]

So from 2x deadly onyx, 2x quick ruby and 2x deadly emerald to using 1 quick sapphire it's a -1.5% dps on ST and -0.4% on AoE - I don't get why it so desperately wants me to use crit gems and not even a double quick onyx?? - Is it because my stats from other gear is weird so it's compensating with the gmes?

[warm crag]

link the sim

[lost vigil]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7nKfoc8EEMQdU8SGJSEJ9q

[fathom jay]

OH is only for stats and not the actual wpn dmg afaik I'm an idiot.

[warm crag]

yes its for the weapon damage wtf

[radiant plank]

OH is for wpn dmg

havnt u seen raging blow lmao

[lost vigil]

(Just swapped so ignore the non maxed gear). Was on ret but we had 3 and lost a warrior so needed to step up

[fathom jay]

Ok ignore me then, guess I shouldn't believe everything I hear!

[radiant plank]

You got 0 crit then

sim knows what it wants

[fading sky]

well did u sim weapon with crafted bracers?

[fathom jay]

I'm currently (with 0 buffs) on 26 crit, 31 haste, 44 mastery, 12 versa.

but yeah I guess sim knows what it wants.

[fading sky]

if not u are simmin 1 embellishments vs 2

[lost vigil]

I mean I simmed all options with 2 sparks available

So it would of taken that into account

[fading sky]

ye but man

u have more than 2 sparks available

[radiant plank]

how do u only have 2 sparks

[fading sky]

come back when u have 3

like

[lost vigil]

I wasn’t maining fury, it was an alt so I have a 720 1h and shield

[fading sky]

craft bracers + weapon thats bis

id still craft weapon if u are raiding

[radiant plank]

okay so u crafted already

[fading sky]

if u are M+ just send dusk i guess

[radiant plank]

for prot

[lost vigil]

Well now I’m mythic raiding on this guy

[fading sky]

hm

id take weapon, and be at a loss until u can craft next piece in 2 weeks

but thats me

u can also just do those 2

[lost vigil]

Right. But could end up getting photon blade from forge

[fading sky]

delve belt is gettin nerfed, so belt isnt a bad crafted spot

[signal steeple]

It's already nerfed

[radiant plank]

I mean just go 2x dusk

[fading sky]

i still think for raiding bis is oh + bracer

[radiant plank]

if u think u can get the weapon

[dry talon]

is it worth it to craft ring piece or neck after wep and bracers are crafted?

[fading sky]

craft on a weak slot

[lost vigil]

Sims say otherwise and I’m just curious why

[fading sky]

it doesnt

it shows u with

[lost vigil]

It’s showing 1% better.

[fading sky]

1 weapon or 2 embellishment

so set it to 3 sparks

and test again

[lost vigil]

Ah.

[radiant plank]

Embellishments arent that big of a deal anw

[fading sky]

ofc not

[radiant plank]

just go 2x dusk and smile

[fading sky]

but 1 vs 2

[lost vigil]

Let me go try with 3 sparks.

[fading sky]

i do dislike dusk for prog

[radiant plank]

You get prio on frogeweapon anyway

[lost vigil]

I see what you mean.

[radiant plank]

cuz every 2h spec has crafted a 2h

so

[pearl sequoia]

doesnt dk use a normal 2hander

[slim coral]

Yes

But it’s crafted

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413197405561819256/reaptech.gif

[pearl sequoia]

but its crafted with ascendance?

[slim coral]

Yep

[pearl sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[slim coral]

Time for bedge now

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-kitty-sleep-sleepy-gif-983579173572105994

[pearl sequoia]

thats enough red spec knowldge for 1 day

[lost vigil]

Well it was the 3 sparks needed to be checked. Now it’s showing weapon.

[smoky vale]

gm

[clever belfry]

i disagree

hope that helps

[cosmic lark]

oeky ill sim it with ara kara trinket

[quick folio]

what are we using our sparks on this week? i have crafted wep and bracers

[coarse nest]

Sim crest upgrades vs crafting a 720 in non myth gear slots

Belt/jewelery pieces are the only other options really

[rocky salmon]

hello i am super new on fury always just play prot

is there any stats caps i need to take care?

or can i just stack haste mastery all the way

[plush zephyr]

Sim but yeah

[rocky salmon]

ye i simmed allready versa seems good too for me

[coarse nest]

Top gear sim all items in your bag that are worth using as fury ST

Equip what it says is the best and go play

[rocky salmon]

was more like if there is something like a cap at 45% haste or something

[oblique trail]

[rocky salmon]

perfect thats what i am doing cheers

[clever belfry]

no u ba

[limber oar]

Not really? Just follow your sims and itll lead you fine. Most people i see sit around ~60% mastery give or take but theyre just following the robot too

[chilly fractal]

Why are the rings in raid so ass (aside from BoEs)… simming considerably better to craft a 2nd ring and of course even better to get False accuser, high nerubian or radiant necromancer

[thick ledge]

Is mythic cursed stone idol good for raiding?

[warm crag]

nah

[proud tide]

Boys, i´ve heard jester diamond sim are "bait" is it true? It annoys me that it still sims better then 704 rings and ppl tell me its a simbait

[warm crag]

its buggy ingame and you have to swap your ring slots before every pull you do to get it to work

[proud tide]

sheesh

[fluid pollen]

What spells decrease the cool down on our next execute?

[proud tide]

rampage/Execute if you will. Spending Rage reduced cd

[fluid pollen]

Sorry, no execute, Blade storm

Mb

[barren pulsar]

i want to my fury warrior for m+ gaming, which fight style should is use for it? just dungeon slice?

*sim

[austere onyx]

THis is probably stated somewhere, but is Dungeon Slice valid for simming m+?

[proud tide]

Im simming Like 8-10 Targets patchwork and fightlenght arround 1-2 minutes

To Simulate a bigger m+ pull

[glad coyote]

whos using jastor diamond still?

[austere onyx]

Oh someone just asked the same question hahaah didnt notice

[proud tide]

I was since now 😄

[barren pulsar]

thanks, i will try it that way

[sacred glen]

how do we sim the crafted ring?

[tardy lark]

you give yourself a million of every crafting material, select other rings to sim with those (as they are unique) or make sure it doesnt clash with the unique gem

hopefully that makes more sense than the error messages

[undone flower]

Yo can have multiple times the same ring equipped, they are not unique

Same crafted ring* like 2 haste mastery

[tardy lark]

the more you know

[sacred glen]

nvm, you need to have a spark to remove this error message

[tardy lark]

its always the crafting materials xdd

I usually just max everything out when simming upgrades "far out" in the future

or rather, when doing sims to make sure my choice now isnt int in 3 weeks