#fury
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I mean... yeah it's kind of both. Sims are mathematical, but due to the high amount of random events, you have to rely on averages rather than explicit outcomes, which is somewhat empirical in nature
I probably would have argued back that an empirical model is a type of mathematical model though 🙃
In all situations almost certainly no, in some situations maybe. You can sim combinations of gear using raidbots and check different situations (target counts, fight durations, etc.) to see which is better with the gear you have
You should just always say "Crit" name checks out
Mythic legs you will never replace, heroic antenna you will replace
Ok my understanding of empirical was an amount of observation but purely irl, I didn’t know it was also the bell curve thingy
Gauss curve ?
It’s been a while since highschool
if I had to guess, I would assume his point is that when you're changing things in sims, you're doing empirical research
- you're changing something, seeing if it comes out better or worse, which becomes a datapoint for comparison to other changes
true mathematical models are generally a little more concrete though, whereas your outcome in a simulation is based on the parameters which may not necessarily be absolute (e.g. APL changes all the time and there's practically an infinite amount of polish you can do to make it better, we just stop caring after a certain point of rationalization)
question for first boss on fury warrior
one warrior cancelled the boss mechanic, how did he do that?
I mean the root
Bladestorm possibly
root can be canceled by charge or bladestorm if they're slayer
avatar also does that I believe
the takeway being, yes X may be > Y with the current parameters, but if you went into the APL and changed something, then Y could conceivably end up > X, because while sims are mathematical, they're also based on a whole lot of manipulatable data
Or gnome racial 
Warriors can also negate the knockback with charge > charge > heroic leap
assuming you mean tazavesh streets first boss interrogation? being cc immune cancels it so bladestorm or some racial ability perhaps.
if you're talking about Tazavesh, being in bladestorm when the cast finishes will immune it
you can also break it with human racial
if I recklessness does that work too?
No
would help if you specified which boss are you talking about
"first boss" of what, exactly
yes it is what I meant, does avatar work?
Human racial superiority
thanks

Gnome looks superiority
also thought he meant first raid boss
Gnome wont save you there though
only bladestorm or human racial (or like 3 other things if you're a DK)
first raid boss also doesn't have a root, which is why I was asking for clarification
I spin 
Human proving to be ultimate race yet again
aren't the trap things a root
that you drop off to the side
It’s if you re enter the puddle you get stunned
On the first raid boss
don’t get bumped in it
well don't do that!
I did get bumped in one when I stopped going in the second soak at whatever timing to have leap for intermission
Saw a video of most op racials in wow history and they didn't even have the original human racial in there. 
that is what I thought was happening, and I thought it was a root as well
still no mfrn weapon, but finally broke the 5.5 mark fuck rng this season
Loser, go do tazavesh to get the weapon
if only it dropped
Yes I just checked it’s 5.7 on simulationcraft
trhats old shit
I read the arms line lmao
sac is a good trinket still, and fury likes haste if you're a little low
You two make me feel very smoll
is my equipped belt really better than Delve Belt?
delve belt sims lower but everybody uses it and my belt is only champ
I would trust the sims, just to get rid of the belt
Too lazy to check, but you siming belt haste and crit versions, ye?
idk it's a droptimizer
ah shit I sent the wrong one
myth bis ring or catalyze myth shoulders?
that ring is sexy
catalyzing any myth shoulders going to be more attainable than getting that specific ring. More strength in the short term tho with shoulders
We gonna get nerfed right? Reap the storm ICD maybe. I hope not because it’s so fun right now
i would take the ring if i only have hero rings
why would we get nerfed, we still bring the least to any group and several classes do just as much damage as us
I do have hero rings, but current shoulders are 8/8 champ so basically the same as 4/8 hero
it's up to you on this one, you might never see this ring again (do you care about that ?) or you prefer taking the shoulders, which would be the most dps gain choice here
a guildie is telling me it's the specific bis ring, vs being able to catalyze any shoulders
yes it's the good thing with set slots, any shoulders is your best shoulder
like the belts this season since the catalysted one is good
but i will trend toward the ring, if you want an opinion
question is what you're likely to see again first
- another good ring
- or more shoulders
it already has an ICD
it does?
is there some kind of comparison for m+ like raid boss kills have parses?
like if I did 8.5m overall on a 14 HoA, how can I compare that to other fury warr runs
sort of; there are logs you can compare to, but the problem with M+ is there are so many permutations of comp and pull cadence that direct comparisons are somewhat meaningless
Or more
Tbf just check boss dmg
Rest is so pull dependant
has anyone been using the odyns m+ build yet
Other dps dependant
any good?
even that can change though, for groups that pull trash into bosses, or time their boss pulls differently
Yes
I feel like if I do 3 RBs in a row I get 3 reaps but that’s just feels
i can roll on normal dh boots if i put mine at my bank ?
that's cause the ICD is 0.5s
that’s a specific ring, you can catalyze any shoulder. Even if the shoulder sims better. My vault was similar but a myth priory ring or catalyze a myth chest.
it's there to stop Reap from multiproccing during a single GCD
Ahhhh
ok so essentially no lol, yeah I was more wanting to know how I fare in aoe but yeah too many variables
it already has an ICD
sims are well and good but not really a comparator
I think they’d go from 150 to 100% 🤷
if reap had no ICD it would be grossly overpowered
which it already is very strong frankly
thinking of crafting head, i got myth for other 4 slots, and it's just craft or vaulting hoa hat right
feels like it's not too bad of a craft now that i got chest/gloves
If they nerf fury due to m+ sev specs need the same😄
is there a world where sac isnt better than a soleahs w/ avoidance
take a socket big dawg
Socket
gonna replace both of those w/ turbo boost in like a month anyways
Socket for bracers
or helm 😮 i have a 723 helm too
Trur
Wonder if they’re going to package anything (an event) along with Turbo Boost
Legion remix
gotta do something to get ppl playin a bit during remix
otherwise keys gonna be dead af
And the fact you can immediately transfer characters to TWW content
its more like turbo boost is getting packaged with remix
Level new classes quick in legion, and gear them quick with turbo boost
i feel like they should really add resource amp for turbo boost
1.5x crest and flightstone drops or some shit
still have to do an ungodly amount of dungeons to get geared
20 crest for a 12 no?
yeah
yeah but a fresh char needs 1000 crests
I’m so hyped for legion remix I completely forgot about it 
Hello :p. Is antenna really good for fury? or sacbrood + arcanocore is a better option?
antenna is really good
Anyone know how many crushing blows we should do after bladestorm? (Multi target)
Also anyone elses whirlwind tracking WA kinda lagging?
as many as you can before you run out of charges or enrage
unless if you have the special weakaura it will always lag
some backend spell shit on blizzards end to prevent rampage from consuming a ww stack in case of a parry or something
@coarse nest have you opened your blessed vault yet
and they shouldn't be crushing blows either
Im shaking in anticipation
We tracker only “lags” with rampage. The stack drops after final ramp hit
Then do you bother refreshing WW in your CB window? Or do u refresh b4 rampage
You want to refresh before blade storm ideally
u should have a fresh enrage going into a bladestorm, and the bladestorm should give you a fresh enrage from 1/4 of the BT's it casts
we just crafting helm this week if we dont have winged M track helm?
yes I have also noticed this, my WW aura is not as snappy at tracking as it once was, for some reason. I dont know a fix.
Sounds good
with OF in theory can you storm -> rb x3 -> OF to refresh enrage -> rb x3 -> rampage
I love pulling a /dance on dimensius for like 10 seconds in p1 to line up cds
you would only press it a max of 5 times for slaughtering strikes
but yeah in theory u could if you get exceedingly lucky
right. i guess i just dont know if holding the rampage is worth
probably marginal diff regardless
forgot to switch off blood loot spec on my dk and got complete garbage in my vault
well u need to press rampage to get back RB so theres reasonable opportunity cost either way
generally it depends on how many targets there are and how long until next pack
at least imo
antenna good
Any opinions on warpclaw or so'leah's for vault item? Currently rocking hero sacbrood and hero pacemaker, both vault trinkets seem to sim super close to each other
is absolute command the crit haste one?
yes it is
both trinks kinda mid i feel if dont have myth helm surely thats the biggest
if do tho then battle of the mid between trinks idk
yeah i dont have myth helm, i think maybe thats the play
is sacbrood / pacemaker my bis non-raid trinkets?
uhhh prolly somethin like that
idol maybe if talkin about m+
think ticking sack also pretty good
idk how it compares to the other 2 tho
kinda crazy how few items i need from raid i feel compared to last season
guess it helps last boss only drops 1 specific bis item instead of like 3 last season
but aside from trink its like 5 items from first 6 bosses left kinda funny
just missing a flat 100k from not having myth weap pretty annoying but like other warr in guild got one out of vault surely forgeweaver drops one so i insta acquire
but o yea forgot can craft something... maybe ring time...
see if i can drop this jastor or not
If you guys crafted bracers / weapon what would be the next craft?
i heard somebody saw you could reflect nexus king's claws? is this true at all
why not belt
cuz mythic belt off second boss of the raid is good
do we replace delve waist ever?
yes
so are the rings
I got the mythic belt off 2nd boss just now
logic gate omega
first ring sucks
can't wait to kill dimmy tomorrow so I can be done with this tier
and play warframe full time
yea i mean up to the beholder just far more likely to still need at least 1 more ring
vs just getting a belt off a more commonly killed boss
but belt craft is fine ig if you wanna do it
no just not like crazy op
think dev evoker would still have used it if it wasnt getting nerfed max ilvl
okay then I got a sick belt at least
but just 723 belt better
prolly bis belt
Ye ilvl gonna beat it
Wasn’t it catalyst week ?
yea so whichever your worst jewelry is make that
713 already beating delve belt?
sending gildeds on 2 710 rings maybe a little unideal
Last week was cata
when the ability to craft has always been available
just minus 30
but w/e otherwise
not worth crafting helm if you dont have HOA helm or melt at M track?
Tanka
idc about how i spend my crests just looking for opinions on what to craft next
Craft a ring tomorrow or when you take a socket in vault if no crests 👍
whys it 4.7m
wdym
thane or somethin
no bro char is 2 days old

Damn lucky one
yea maybe a lil bit
Im gonna get some vers I think
What weekly event is up? Is it 4mythics?
but i mean so long as u have the epic belt itll still be worth when delve thing gets nerfed
ye 1.6k dps is 1.6k dps
Titan disc
O ur delve belt also houses your blasphemite
so maybe couple extra k lost cuz there isn’t one somewhere else
isnt disc belt getting nerfed again soon?
in .5
oh ok, so still a little while
help my tirnkets suck
what a weird dk
Ur oh sucks
boots 🤣
Those too
all gg
I bricked my PC and u know what the worst part of it all is? @south kayak not knowing my headset sound settings and now everything sounds fkin odd
zzzz
gg
le sigh, the LFG staring game. Waiting for invites.
I NEED IT CRISP
no im depressed
Better than getting invited, waiting 15mins for a tank. Then lead just logs
that's a lie
fair
HOLY AURA
getting invited always better
@celest anchor
My first 10 mil :^)
Dayum

guys
guys
Liquid Gio confirmed
does rashanan in DB take same damage on boat as downstairs?
yes
Bro what for real
the damage dealt on the boat doesnt show after a certain point
so if you lust and fulll cds upstairs you can go down with 62% for example?
you should lust p2
He does but you have to do like 4% to him in p2 regardless of what his % is in p1
but you should also press cds p1
its a general question rather than wanting to know what to do
i want to know how much my damage upstairs matter
Almost none
I mean you might as well do dam anyways bc like Cone said it's not like saving your cds matters
Ya better to drop our fat burst 
think lowest ive seen that boss let you phase at is like 62.5% or something
imagine final bomb doesnt go over a certain limit
to not like... kill it before it flies or 1 second after landing
if ur doing like a +2 maybe idk if theres actually no limit on what its hp can be before it gets lost
mf just taking selfies with random people on the streets like a bum
first time on the server where all the people converge eh
autism
What to do if I drop jugg stacks, curse God on st?
glazing
lmaaaaaooo
as arms yes
As fury
Cry
not that big
fotm or
u dont want it to happen but u dont lose all damage like arms
rare warrior moment
Crying is fine, arms just has to give up
first time its ever happened
Nah classic
Does the enrage dmg buff apply to the rampage that enrages you, or is it only for the abilities you use after the rampage that enrages you. Does that make sense? Lol
enrages before damage
rampage enrages u then does the damage
is he in liquid now
Goat ty
he is
hollly
yeah huge liquid pick up tbh
does anyone elses M Jastor diamond still sim better than a M Omega ring from raid? I'm tired of this S2 ring, grandpa
get rid of it
What about DISC belt?
banked that shit 2 weeks ago
i got rid of that too but only because i got a bis mythic belt
nothing wrong with disc
jastor diamond bugs out

and gets like 100k less hp
Check your uptime on the buff "I did that!"
Most people jastors are bugged and uptime was terrible, it's "sim" bait imo. Replace
I've never seen my diamond not have a 85%+ uptime in a breakdown
Did this guy just ping to someone not in his group
fan activity
hey guys, do you always use up all 4 ww stacks? or press rampage at 3 stacks?
uh I mean yea go all 4 if u can
just waste 20% of your potential good globals recasting ww early
bro is playing the closed midnight alpha with fan of longswords

it’s crazy how fan of longswords is just cringe and boring
But like it’d be cool if it was active during avatar or something
its just cringe pressing ww during cd's
Im one of those who don’t see the appeal, but I accept to see during CDs
what is fan of lonwswords
Rampage casts ww
torghast power
holy
yea that might not work with thane
Or at the very least if it stays thunderclaps
that might be too strong no
it would be yeah
Tcs are who cares
tbs
hey , which Weakaura pack is the best for fury ?
you would, at the least, have to put an icd on fan
whichever one displays the information best for you
think of node isn’t the worst if u don’t take of as thane anyway
its entirely personal preference
But if you get a TB proc, would it be too strong if rampage consumes it ?
which one would u personaly suggest ? im 1 day old fury
probably which is why don’t think it should
i use revvez's UI pack
only cast tc no matter what
but its paid
oh
if you want a free one, im pretty sure theres a ton of options on wago
that one guy makes them for every class
gapping on his name rn
There’s a diff between ramp auto casting a shit button to enable your aoe vs a button that does 30% of your dmg on aoe as well as making u aoe more
tc is bad tho so should be chill to leave it at that
Well current thane doesn’t cast a lot of tc
What are u guys spending ur spark on this week? ring/neck or crafting belts?
ye u cast tb which is the same shit just does more damage
publik's looks decent
If u do any amount of myth raid a rly good belt drops off 2nd boss so i think jewelry more ideal craft but if u have banger rings and necks can kinda go off
A reason I don’t see fan of longeword dream coming true ever, it would be too much slayer oriented
First 2 m pugs not that bad to do
fan of longswords should be a slayer talent arms gets ss for the duration of avatar fury gets fan of longswords during reck/avatar w/e
wtf youre a baby
real
But WHAT can possibly equalize thane with fan of long sword
meow
Unstoppable force ? AM on avatar cook ?
im pretty sure they're all "good" whether or not you personally like the appearance is different
Rampage should autocast Whirlwind, Raging Blow and Bloodthirst
why does my mint retrograde not have rapid hit opening shot
but most of the freely available weakaura packs come with all the necessary information, most are probably bloated
Like Stasis but zug
if you want a paid weakaura pack, figure that out for yourself
Will a separate WW tracker also lag due to rampage?
yes
you need a special weakaura to make it not lag
The buff itself is delayed
Amazing
what anda57 said
So the only way to not have it delay is check for casts and manually remove 1 from a counter each time
hello anda57
Cause tracking the buff has the delay until blizz gets around to fixing it
hello Spongie57 happy birthday
thanks!
Happy 57 birthday
yea i would love the hast mast belt from raid but we're plate stacked pretty hard so its a good chance id get passed over on it anyways. they've been funneling most gear to another warrior then the rest have to wait for the trickle down effect to kick in
Happy birthday! hope you had a great day
i couldnt find the names you said
why not on your krieger
you did 7 hardmodes on krieger?
yea
can you come join me in an ultimate (510 light level)
we failed each one before first boss
Krieger is what class
Maybe someday I can taste victory in hardmode
If my tank (Spongie57) doesn't troll me
i have never griefed a hardmode
What’s the significance of the 57? Is that how old you guys are?
yea
Show us the date of your achievement spongue
gio five seven
Spongie did not complete Deathless Hardmode week 1 (the only week it was kinda hard)
Therefore he is a noober and so am I
What about him?
whats up dog
wrong person bro
idk its giofiveseven
wasnt me bud
dont pull 3 bosses together or
who is giofiveseven
do we just channel stone idol and then reck/ava charge or we use it after charge in raid
The menagerie fight
oh ty
hidden third option: during the charge
Can use it mid charge
throw reck charge idol ava ramp
thank you
"Dont invite the monk we need a dk"
throw my balls giofiveseven
lmfao
Clearly you needed extra grips
Clearly its impossible to time a 12 without meta specs
did anyone get a good vault it seems not
Pants I can catalyze next week… one of the best things I could ask for I suppose just sucks I have to wait a week
Best would’ve been SH boots
Sounds like wait for reclear
Cause like, we extended and I’m still not in for nexus king and prob not in for dimensius so I feel like arcanocore is useless
Nah no reclear
Ah
So I’m probably not raiding for like next 3 weeks so I’m thinking might take neck or chest
Cause arcanocore is mid in mythic plus
And I can always get an arcanocore later on
Prob chest
if not raiding surely can just join 2/8 pugs
and decent chance of getting chest/core
just pug 2/8
wait
eddie
come to gio super team run
i know dragindeez is excited to come back after vacation
Oh yea if your guild doesn’t mind you doing that then 100% pug what you can
guys, Reckless Abandon is good for m+?

so uhh, anyone else still rocking jastor's diamond? lol
only a few rings actually better on sim
ggwp
The min I got the ring from HoA and vers mast ring from from priory I was able to replace it
I haven't had such luck unfortunately, about to just craft ring
i think jast has been bugged you should prob repalce with anything that sims within 10k
fr? is it actually because that would make sense why hardly any rings actually sim better even fully upgraded heroic
it is bugged not in sims
but in game
also if your rings sims close I would go for high ilvl one just for stamina
anyone here have experience with signet of the priory? got super cheesed by vault and it was the best choice
damn. def made a mistake then
it can be decent in M+
Every 2 mins you are a master though
Nah dude signet is fine
2min cd sucks but it’s still good
Feel like there’s a ton of good/great trinkets out rn
I'm trying to do the learndings for the wizard
any advice on using it?
It's proper shit atm but I have no tier at all. Will see after reset
Just line it up with av/reck
personallyyyy have av/reck/tempered pot/trink/orc racial all macro’d together but have separate keybinds for them. But yeah I just macro it altogether and send it.
I had signet most of last tier, worked fine in m+.
hey all im wondering what trinkets i should be using for mplus, i have 710 idol, 704 ant, 710 screams and 710 sac, ive been using idol and ant for mplus
hey brothers should we craft belt or what?
highest ilvl that are best suited for the content
I cant decide what spec to open the vault as
Arms
do you want 1h weapons?
no 🙁
Poor neglected prot:(
idk if u wanna call it fotm I just woke up one day and decided I wanna play fury
Play fury/prot spec arms 
but its my 6th alt
so after further review, still as arms?
Got fire mage, hpal, brewmaster, sub rogue, mm hunt and fury warr
drowning in vaults to fill
Well, maybe for prot, but id love to high roll a 2H
should i replace the belt or wait till it gets nerfed? i do have a mythic track belt to replace it
Well this week sucks lol
Is wowhead trolling me by saying to take critical chain in my belt? I thought crit was our least desirable stat
Tried checking what ppl in logs are wearing but as far as I can tell you cant check discs
least desirable doesn't mean it's useless
and if we talk about big amount
big = good
zug zug
That's what I needed to hear. Zug zug
finally myth wep
its over
whats wrong with this thing
nothing
apparently there's a new slayer build that doesn't take rally? anyone know if its good
if you dont take rally to every piece of content you do you are slightly dented but thats ok
Rally is in the class tree so you're not really losing or gaining much by taking or not taking it
i think the truth is a lot of our stats are just really close, i simmed every version of my hat and vers/mas, haste/vers, and haste/mastery were within 5k dps of each other
probably matters a bit more on rings/neck, but everything else is kinda just a decent mix
shouldve simmed the ring
Is single minded fury not viable?
that looks not viable lmao.
hmm should i pick a mythic weapon from vault or belt? since the delve belt got nerfed
so yall
hero interloper boots (have myth track already) or myth helmet
sim says i gain the most with myth helmet by at least 1%
if u don’t have myth weapon yea that
If already 1 then can belt
really new to fury! Saw for stats we will want to stack Mastery and Haste. But wowhead also says haste will drop pretty quickly upon soft cap. May i know whats the soft cap for haste?
not common to exactly follow numbers and %s of stats since simming makes all those decisions for you but idk around 30-35% baseline haste usually where u at
Surely this locks in right guys
cluegi
Many thanks! Will use that as a guide
i hope roll back happens soon and ur parses reset
Waiting for Araz reclear tonight to pick but insane vault
Can I get some vault advice? Gloves have avoidance and Idol has speed. Already have 723 Sacbrood and Arcanocore so gloves seem like the pick, but its gonna feel bad passing both those trinkets
take antenna, gloves drop off 2nd boss in raid
and half the grps have them alrdy and pass
very unlucky to get that much good shit in 1 vault tho
Would yall take the mythic gloves or the heroic antenna?
myth gloves
what are you all crafting this week?
legs would be my biggest upgrade but would hate to then get legs off of loom
is belt any better for us than DISC?
mythic soulbinder belt
might do shoulders since they only drop from hunters...
crafting a tier slot is usually pretty low prio for me since you have basically double chance in vault of getting them
but once you have myth in 4 of them its not bad i think
3 are myth for me but yeah, could always do ring or neck too
there's 4 shoulders in the dungeon pool
tru
Why is bloodthirst so low on rotation if u need to cast to trigger reap the storm?
Where is the talent overwhelmed located? So I can read more about it
Hero talent tree middle rows
what abilty do we prio in st/aoe when RB has no charges left?
Do I just sim 1 target 5 min patchwerk for m+?
for all my other chars im supposed to just take whatever sims the best on st and play it in keys
thats fine to do for war also, althought id be careful w/ trinkets
those you might just want to evaluate individually
Ye I already plan to run antenna+idol for keys
despite idol not simming super well on st
ya idol doesnt sim well in ST doesnt mean throw it away lol
Got sacbrood and arcanocore atm but arcanocore doesnt feel that good in keys
thats just phenomenal
who voted for this dogshit ahh dungeon
the idiots voted for dungs with good loot rather than good design
this dungeon has 0 good loot
so its bad
just like arakara
clowns voting for trinkets that suck
and now forced to play terrible dungeons
maybe it sucks for u
But regardless ye ppl are stupid
I just want Freehold every season
At least current dungeon pool is miles better than last season
i miss city of threads
i have 710 sac/arcano also
Banned
ye giga banned
it had cringe bosses but vibe was good
and third boss had 0 armor so we were like 30% higher than next best dps
bt is a dogshit button so u might want to figure out what more there is
imagine it now
idk 2% is nothing insane
60% higher than next highest dps
stat sticks seem way better
arcano is worth for strength the dmg is nothing in m+
it sims better than my 710 pacemaker but whatever replace both eventually
teach me your ways
have good gear, raid on tuesday
heroic forgeweaver is jus like
have your guild afk
ahh trinkets anyway
huh
killed loom, went from 704 champ legs and 704 sacbrood to 710 legs and 710 antenna
ez
funneled pig
thats a ton a vers
lol
New spark aviable this week. Whats our next crafted piece?
i have 6194 vers and vers still doesn't sim super crazy for me
i take it anyways, because it's like best by a little damage wise and then the defensive component
kill time diff, gear diff, rotation diff, idk
depends on your current kit
is leech>avoidance? i've seen a few ppl using it
think usually a tossup between seasons depends on how much stuff from raid actually applies to avoidance
its not always everything sometimes its a ton sometimes its a little
i think i just generally like leech cuz i can at least see its value on hps meters
avoid doesnt rly show how much less dmg you take i think unless maybe its trackable by logs but never cared to look for that
leech also fun for like m+ cuz do more damage on more targets = heal more me thinks
did like 60% of my healing in a 12 floodgate and not too much was overhealing
yeah a decent amount of that is baseline tho
i think i healed myself more than the healer healed me that key actually
bro was hanging me out to dry
yea u get 3% baseline leech
i have like 7% with gear
could have more i think but i like speed bracer
Death drive doing work
typical
lotta executes
forgeweaver mythic yall getting auto by the fucken echo?
Nop
idk im off it the second it spawns
or like assuming you soak 2nd idk maybe if first and u stay on its silly
same, it's awesome
yippie :3
Large
ive been eppy sleepy
life too busy brain too tired
i got murdered on our third star drop in p3 :(
once we reclear today it will be our first pull on nexus .. cant wait
oh wiat no nvm we going to Hunters
Are parses on wipes giod to still review. I just don't understand what I'm doing wrong rotation wise
I use the Wow analyzer thing and it says I should be rampaging more
the parse% may be a little wonky and inaccurate but can compare casts/dps and everything else to a kill probably yea
Wowanalyzer will say your uptime is bad if you died but otherwise a log from a wipe is fine
If you're ending a blade storm and you've got like 120 rage like two raging blows what should your next gcd be? Should it be raging blows and afterwards rampage?
exe conditions > RB until enrage runs out or no more charges > ramp
is halls bugged for the weekly? did it and didnt get quest credit
So basically only rampaging if you're about to exit enrage or you have no more charges.
ONLY after bladestorm
and you still exe with conditions above RB
and still maintain ww stacks in aoe etc
Do we cleave on salad?
How annoying is the Soul hunters fight?
When he's riding the stupid dragon
Yes
really depends on how good your tanks are w/ positioning, but its a mechanical overload, so more annoying than not
Maybe that's my parse also sucked
Great.... so I have to wait till everyone learns everything.
don't worry, that's the next two bosses as well
I’m almost never using bloodthirst right?
If you don't have to do soul soaks as melee it's basically just brain off hit boss and soak hunt when it's your turn, then wait for everyone else to learn their roles
I may be here awhile. 
In 57 minutes
How does the priority change when you finished your supercharged rampage? Back to rampage 115 raging blows executes overall?
I also have been pressing roar when there's nothing else to press
Yeah the only time the 115 rage thing changes is after bladestorm for brutal finish
This is generally correct in single target, in aoe it's still high prio
back to normal yes, you're just building a single big Rampage while the Brutal Finish buff is active
Thanks for answering questions. I could probably be easily answered by the rotation guide. It just pains sometimes
People are generally pretty cool about answering specific questions
"how do I do more damage" is the kind of question people get grumpy about
I'm also a little bit paranoid about how I'm mashing buttons during the gcd
I never really got that. I just been mashing them like crazy and I never know if I accidentally double press
As if playing a fury warrior was like playing DragonForce
Yeah might be worth looking at your spellqueue
I know with the default 400, I feel like my inputs get doubled all the time during lust/haste procs
I play on 140 and still get that sometimes but that's also maybe a skill issue on my end
Happens a lot like on pull of soul hunters where there's just shit all over the screen and I'm at 10 fps
I play on 30ms, slightly higher would probably be objectively better but 140 feels good to me and doesn't seem to cause any noticeable gaps when I tested with the weakaura
default is objectively better
Maybe on some caster classes but not a high haste melee class
Then u just have pc issue
I dont think there are any other good players that play with that kind of sqw
I'm thinking it might be my keyboard honestly. Some steelseries Apex gen 1 crap
I tried it on a different keyboard and everything felt so much cleaner
I thought I was going insane
idk I play 400 sqw and I have no issues what so ever, I didnt even notice a difference when I swapped from 200 to 400
Re: Slayer and bloodthirst. I understand why raging blow is higher priority than BT, but I don't get why we wouldn't hit BT with 95%+ crit? Why are we still spec'd into Cold Steel, Hot Blood if we don't? Seems like a wasted point, as does Bloodcraze, but I get we need Bloodcraze for Deft Experience.
I mean I think I do alright for myself and it feels better for me /shrug
For reference I play fire mage with 55% base haste 95 cpm
Nothing really better to take, and we still get automatic BTs from unhinged
is this something you can actually look up or
No but u can ask literally anyone like its been said again and again that changing ur sqw is generally bad or ineffective
Lower sqw just leaves more room for error
if he has 140 sqw he needs to press his buttons within 0.14 sec before gcd is over to not get a gap between his abilities
Gj
SQW diff
Slayer is pretty normal variance
I guess other specs can beat their sim dps by alot from having rng in their rotation
Like arcane, mm, bm and ele
But very high
I wanted to play fury so I have a spec that isnt all casino
Yeah slayer is definitely one of the more consistent classes
There are a lot of procs but they're quick so it averages out
but its not like arcane where u do a 8-9m opener one pull and 6m the other pull
thane is very RNG slayer isn't, thankfully for u slayer is best for all content atm
slayer is consistent
thane you live or die based on blast procs
is it normal for details and warcraftlogs to be pretty different on bosses like Fractillus?
should I raise my sqw if I feel like I have input lag sometimes? I use 200
Not on fractillus no
Sometimes things are excluded from logs but not on Frac
if you're playing with an aug evoker yeah
ahhh ok then
He's huge
that was my first kill of it
joke of a boss ngl
fury's niche is hitting a target dummy

How many wall breaks did you get stuck with?
Yeah,
On god I've heard a bunch of guilds struggle with it bc they try to actually play the game instead of just listening to the weakaura
I had to break 7 walls this week 🙁
I keep getting drive by clowns dumping their circle on my assigned spot.
yeah this is unhinged
weakaura does the whole fight for you
LMFAO
also my screams kinda blows sometimes
it did 3% on my plexus kill
4.5% on my frac kill
not sure if thats the norm
yeah ive seen some wide swings on tht trinket did a first 5 2x raid sale with some other warriors first time around did like 10% of this guys dam then next one did 4%
terrible trinket
Did 5.03% for me but mine is only 704
ive got a 710 one
fract is just tilting the fuck out of me how are we wiping to this
socket wrists prob isnt bad
i could upgrade the warpclaw to 724 > 710 screams it still sims worse
I feel that, someone fucks up everytime I get a pull with less than 5 wall breaks
I average about 4
Is anybody else struggling to find a decent raiding guild?
we just cannot kill the boss half the raid just "oops i didn't know I had a wall"
i am tweaking the fuck out
yoyo got an ass vault (probably socket), but have a mythic prism in there. sims like shit i know, but the sim is just pressing prism on cd even with no reck up is that really the best use off it sim wise?
Hey gang, new to Fury, stat wise, when do i stop stacking mastery?
when the robot tells you to
this is strange, you would probably just use it with every avatar
its also really good on bosses with random aoe burst and damage amps, which is like 4/8 fights in this raid
i actually think it could be bis on nexus king
up2u im (assuming) its hero track and i think taking hero track is cringe
would rather take a socket over it
its myth
oh
considering you are probably about to prog nexus king soon, i dont think its a bad take, you just have to play around it and not forget its existence
itd only be like 3 uses on the fight rite
yeah
assuming timings similar as on heroic
like with 2nd avatar 90s in then hold for 180s which is full stack
then 4:30
cuz about 4:30 is the burn
ur not full stacking burn?
isnt 3:00 like adds
ig if youre padding adds sure
but for boss killing purposes
if you dont want too
^
then idk right before boss dies last 5% or something
or whenever your next set of cds are
send with last avatar then just spam it off cd prob until boss die
its also good on dimensius
but maybe less good
someday we might be able to spec into burst damage again
fury isnt good at the burn but its not bad in p3 overall
prob like middle of the pack
hello i have a smooth brain and this line in the wowhead article has confused me
Raging Blow repeatedly after Bladestorm, to build up Slaughtering Strikes for a bigger Rampage
would one just dump available blow charges and send rampage? or until enrage is about to run out? or just vibes?
It ain’t. Right. I tell ya. The keys my mage gets into that my warrior doesn’t. Is. Fucking crazy. It genuinely shocks me.
you send the Rampage after you run out of RB charges or if your Enrage is about to fall off
this is an optimization because of Brutal Finish and Slaughtering Strikes talents
any1 here playing with cursed stone idol? how does the channel work? can it still be macroed to avatar?
ok so raging until one of the higher priority options (execute, enrage, whatever) becomes available?
that's correct, this is only after you bladestorm though due to Brutal Finish mainly
yo can u have 2 BOE rings equipped?
does it say "unique equipped" on the ring, if not then you can. if they have different names then ofcourse you can
u charrge in press idol
then pop cdss
vault opening 🙏
4 chars 4 good items
warr is full myth track setpieces now
bis trinket hunter, bis ring havoc, myth trrack chesst feral
okayy, might give it a try then, is the only good piece I have in vault
vault gets scaled to the latest boss you've killed that week
so for example if you killed dimensius on mythic, then all items in vault for raid would be 717 base
for that current week
crazy
big good change
guess it's gilded on legs and boots -> craft next week ring angle
You can cast while moving
So start idol cast then charge
Quick question. Maybe im just unlucky but have any of you simmed out the delve belt or jastors diamond yet?
723 belt outsimmed delve for me
I figure the belt would have to be mythic. Im just surprised that heroic jastors diamond is still holding up to my heroic season 3 rings
how to you get an mrt note to get back on your screen if its potentially off screen
Just curious in higher keys do you switch to def stance on aoe pulsating dmg? i.e. swamp boss floodgate/dawnbreaker second to last boss


