#fury

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clear loom
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Would a heroic Antenna be worth picking up over myth track legs in all situations?

edgy widget
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I mean... yeah it's kind of both. Sims are mathematical, but due to the high amount of random events, you have to rely on averages rather than explicit outcomes, which is somewhat empirical in nature

I probably would have argued back that an empirical model is a type of mathematical model though 🙃

winter shoal
sage quiver
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You should just always say "Crit" name checks out

oak peak
undone flower
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Ok my understanding of empirical was an amount of observation but purely irl, I didn’t know it was also the bell curve thingy

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Gauss curve ?

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It’s been a while since highschool

edgy widget
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if I had to guess, I would assume his point is that when you're changing things in sims, you're doing empirical research

  • you're changing something, seeing if it comes out better or worse, which becomes a datapoint for comparison to other changes
    true mathematical models are generally a little more concrete though, whereas your outcome in a simulation is based on the parameters which may not necessarily be absolute (e.g. APL changes all the time and there's practically an infinite amount of polish you can do to make it better, we just stop caring after a certain point of rationalization)
weak tartan
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question for first boss on fury warrior
one warrior cancelled the boss mechanic, how did he do that?

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I mean the root

oak peak
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Bladestorm possibly

winter shoal
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root can be canceled by charge or bladestorm if they're slayer

upbeat blade
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avatar also does that I believe

edgy widget
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the takeway being, yes X may be > Y with the current parameters, but if you went into the APL and changed something, then Y could conceivably end up > X, because while sims are mathematical, they're also based on a whole lot of manipulatable data

undone flower
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Or gnome racial clueless

winter shoal
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Warriors can also negate the knockback with charge > charge > heroic leap

drifting token
edgy widget
weak tartan
drifting token
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No

edgy widget
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would help if you specified which boss are you talking about

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"first boss" of what, exactly

undone flower
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Oh yeah the tazavesh first boss is only bladestorm

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I thought raid first boss

weak tartan
edgy widget
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no

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it's a stun, not a root

iron portal
weak tartan
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thanks

iron portal
undone flower
upbeat blade
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also thought he meant first raid boss

iron portal
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Gnome wont save you there though

edgy widget
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only bladestorm or human racial (or like 3 other things if you're a DK)

edgy widget
undone flower
iron portal
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Human proving to be ultimate race yet again

winter shoal
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that you drop off to the side

edgy widget
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no, it just drops a void zone

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you just get them out of raid and charge back

coarse nest
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Human bis

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cant ever swap off it again

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lesson learned

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xD

undone flower
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It’s if you re enter the puddle you get stunned

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On the first raid boss

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don’t get bumped in it

edgy widget
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well don't do that!

winter shoal
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I would never

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I just get bumped into the wall instead

undone flower
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I did get bumped in one when I stopped going in the second soak at whatever timing to have leap for intermission

sage quiver
# coarse nest Human bis

Saw a video of most op racials in wow history and they didn't even have the original human racial in there. keks

upbeat blade
tepid cedar
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still no mfrn weapon, but finally broke the 5.5 mark fuck rng this season

undone flower
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Loser, go do tazavesh to get the weapon

tepid cedar
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if only it dropped

undone flower
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I need to do a sim too, since I got lootfed last week

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6m ? Can I dream ?

tepid cedar
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5.9 is the higest we can get

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turbo boost

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'

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we hit it

undone flower
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Yes I just checked it’s 5.7 on simulationcraft

tepid cedar
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trhats old shit

remote bobcat
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GOD DAMNIT

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i got a 2nd myth soleahs

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from taza hm

undone flower
undone flower
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still so far of the max

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weirdly ara kara > arcano

frank dawn
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sac is a good trinket still, and fury likes haste if you're a little low

dense elbow
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You two make me feel very smoll

mild coral
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is my equipped belt really better than Delve Belt?

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delve belt sims lower but everybody uses it and my belt is only champ

dense elbow
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I would trust the sims, just to get rid of the belt

mild coral
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I haven’t used it at all actually since I got the champ belt

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with socket

dense elbow
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Too lazy to check, but you siming belt haste and crit versions, ye?

undone flower
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idk it's a droptimizer

mild coral
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ah shit I sent the wrong one

iron holly
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myth bis ring or catalyze myth shoulders?

runic acorn
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that ring is sexy

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catalyzing any myth shoulders going to be more attainable than getting that specific ring. More strength in the short term tho with shoulders

wary river
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We gonna get nerfed right? Reap the storm ICD maybe. I hope not because it’s so fun right now

undone flower
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i would take the ring if i only have hero rings

frank dawn
iron holly
undone flower
iron holly
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a guildie is telling me it's the specific bis ring, vs being able to catalyze any shoulders

undone flower
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yes it's the good thing with set slots, any shoulders is your best shoulder

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like the belts this season since the catalysted one is good

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but i will trend toward the ring, if you want an opinion

edgy widget
flat river
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it does?

orchid brook
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is there some kind of comparison for m+ like raid boss kills have parses?

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like if I did 8.5m overall on a 14 HoA, how can I compare that to other fury warr runs

edgy widget
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sort of; there are logs you can compare to, but the problem with M+ is there are so many permutations of comp and pull cadence that direct comparisons are somewhat meaningless

fading sky
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Or more

fading sky
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Rest is so pull dependant

forest hawk
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has anyone been using the odyns m+ build yet

fading sky
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Other dps dependant

forest hawk
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any good?

fading sky
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Nah

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Its fun though

edgy widget
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even that can change though, for groups that pull trash into bosses, or time their boss pulls differently

fading sky
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Yes

wary river
undone flower
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i can roll on normal dh boots if i put mine at my bank ?

edgy widget
clear hill
edgy widget
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it's there to stop Reap from multiproccing during a single GCD

wary river
orchid brook
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ok so essentially no lol, yeah I was more wanting to know how I fare in aoe but yeah too many variables

orchid brook
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sims are well and good but not really a comparator

young swan
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doubt thats how they'd nerf it

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but i also doubt they'll nerf it at all

wary river
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I think they’d go from 150 to 100% 🤷

red berry
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if reap had no ICD it would be grossly overpowered

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which it already is very strong frankly

wary river
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I like it 🤪

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Feels like I’m a meat grinder

rough torrent
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thinking of crafting head, i got myth for other 4 slots, and it's just craft or vaulting hoa hat right

uneven plaza
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s1

rough torrent
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feels like it's not too bad of a craft now that i got chest/gloves

uneven plaza
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"just dps and cut"

fading sky
karmic crow
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is there a world where sac isnt better than a soleahs w/ avoidance

rough torrent
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take a socket big dawg

fading sky
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Socket

rough torrent
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gonna replace both of those w/ turbo boost in like a month anyways

fading sky
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Socket for bracers

karmic crow
fading sky
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Trur

plush zephyr
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Wonder if they’re going to package anything (an event) along with Turbo Boost

rough torrent
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gotta do something to get ppl playin a bit during remix

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otherwise keys gonna be dead af

twilit harbor
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And the fact you can immediately transfer characters to TWW content

young swan
twilit harbor
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Level new classes quick in legion, and gear them quick with turbo boost

young swan
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i feel like they should really add resource amp for turbo boost

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1.5x crest and flightstone drops or some shit

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still have to do an ungodly amount of dungeons to get geared

undone flower
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it is the thing missing

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crest gain increase

fading sky
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20 crest for a 12 no?

young swan
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yeah

undone flower
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yeah but a fresh char needs 1000 crests

plush zephyr
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I’m so hyped for legion remix I completely forgot about it bedge

paper bear
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Hello :p. Is antenna really good for fury? or sacbrood + arcanocore is a better option?

young swan
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antenna is really good

stoic marsh
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Anyone know how many crushing blows we should do after bladestorm? (Multi target)

Also anyone elses whirlwind tracking WA kinda lagging?

young swan
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as many as you can before you run out of charges or enrage

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unless if you have the special weakaura it will always lag

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some backend spell shit on blizzards end to prevent rampage from consuming a ww stack in case of a parry or something

limber oar
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@coarse nest have you opened your blessed vault yet

drifting token
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and they shouldn't be crushing blows either

limber oar
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Im shaking in anticipation

olive wraith
stoic marsh
winter kernel
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You want to refresh before blade storm ideally

young swan
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u should have a fresh enrage going into a bladestorm, and the bladestorm should give you a fresh enrage from 1/4 of the BT's it casts

winged oracle
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we just crafting helm this week if we dont have winged M track helm?

delicate spear
stoic marsh
sturdy river
hollow leaf
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I love pulling a /dance on dimensius for like 10 seconds in p1 to line up cds

young swan
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but yeah in theory u could if you get exceedingly lucky

sturdy river
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right. i guess i just dont know if holding the rampage is worth

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probably marginal diff regardless

sullen tendon
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forgot to switch off blood loot spec on my dk and got complete garbage in my vault

young swan
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generally it depends on how many targets there are and how long until next pack

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at least imo

tired cipher
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Any opinions on warpclaw or so'leah's for vault item? Currently rocking hero sacbrood and hero pacemaker, both vault trinkets seem to sim super close to each other

young swan
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is absolute command the crit haste one?

tired cipher
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yes it is

sullen dove
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both trinks kinda mid i feel if dont have myth helm surely thats the biggest

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if do tho then battle of the mid between trinks idk

tired cipher
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yeah i dont have myth helm, i think maybe thats the play

sullen dove
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yea i mean not the most perfect stats but they still useable

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and more strength epic

tired cipher
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is sacbrood / pacemaker my bis non-raid trinkets?

sullen dove
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uhhh prolly somethin like that

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idol maybe if talkin about m+

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think ticking sack also pretty good

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idk how it compares to the other 2 tho

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kinda crazy how few items i need from raid i feel compared to last season

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guess it helps last boss only drops 1 specific bis item instead of like 3 last season

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but aside from trink its like 5 items from first 6 bosses left kinda funny

sullen dove
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just missing a flat 100k from not having myth weap pretty annoying but like other warr in guild got one out of vault surely forgeweaver drops one so i insta acquire

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but o yea forgot can craft something... maybe ring time...

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see if i can drop this jastor or not

chilly fractal
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anyone having troubles with droptimizer? keep getting errors

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it's working now

shut pewter
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If you guys crafted bracers / weapon what would be the next craft?

potent citrus
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i heard somebody saw you could reflect nexus king's claws? is this true at all

sullen dove
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fill a random ring or maybe necklace

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not many other pieces to go through

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yea

cobalt relic
sullen dove
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cuz mythic belt off second boss of the raid is good

sour tangle
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do we replace delve waist ever?

sullen dove
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yes

cobalt relic
sour tangle
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I got the mythic belt off 2nd boss just now

cobalt relic
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logic gate omega

sullen dove
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first ring sucks

hollow leaf
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can't wait to kill dimmy tomorrow so I can be done with this tier

sullen dove
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4th boss one is cool

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but still need 2

hollow leaf
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and play warframe full time

cobalt relic
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signet from hoa?

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or the vers mastery one

sullen dove
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yea i mean up to the beholder just far more likely to still need at least 1 more ring

sour tangle
sullen dove
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vs just getting a belt off a more commonly killed boss

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but belt craft is fine ig if you wanna do it

olive wraith
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I crafted belt

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Other options are jewelry honestly

sour tangle
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Is belt bad for us or?

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delve belt

sullen dove
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no just not like crazy op

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think dev evoker would still have used it if it wasnt getting nerfed max ilvl

sour tangle
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okay then I got a sick belt at least

sullen dove
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but just 723 belt better

sour tangle
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prolly bis belt

shut pewter
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here bc im lazy

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havent gotten mythic weapon yet

olive wraith
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Ye ilvl gonna beat it

shut pewter
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jewlery is all heroic

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belt is mythic

slate mica
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Wasn’t it catalyst week ?

sullen dove
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yea so whichever your worst jewelry is make that

sour tangle
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713 already beating delve belt?

sullen dove
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sending gildeds on 2 710 rings maybe a little unideal

olive wraith
sullen dove
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when the ability to craft has always been available

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just minus 30

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but w/e otherwise

winged oracle
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not worth crafting helm if you dont have HOA helm or melt at M track?

slate mica
shut pewter
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idc about how i spend my crests just looking for opinions on what to craft next

undone flower
sour tangle
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"better"

sullen dove
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whys it 4.7m

sour tangle
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wdym

sullen dove
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thane or somethin

sour tangle
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no bro char is 2 days old

sullen dove
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o

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epic

sour tangle
sullen dove
undone flower
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Damn lucky one

sour tangle
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I think I have too much mastery hence why the belt sims so little

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have 23k idk

sullen dove
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yea maybe a lil bit

sour tangle
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Im gonna get some vers I think

radiant perch
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What weekly event is up? Is it 4mythics?

sullen dove
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but i mean so long as u have the epic belt itll still be worth when delve thing gets nerfed

sour tangle
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ye 1.6k dps is 1.6k dps

olive wraith
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Titan disc

sullen dove
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O ur delve belt also houses your blasphemite

sour tangle
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oih

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true

sullen dove
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so maybe couple extra k lost cuz there isn’t one somewhere else

sour tangle
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that makes sense

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ye 17k now

runic acorn
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isnt disc belt getting nerfed again soon?

hollow leaf
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in .5

runic acorn
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oh ok, so still a little while

smoky vale
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help my tirnkets suck

summer quail
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what a weird dk

smoky vale
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mutou

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my dk lost

chrome relic
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Ur oh sucks

sullen dove
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boots 🤣

chrome relic
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Those too

cobalt relic
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all gg

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I bricked my PC and u know what the worst part of it all is? @south kayak not knowing my headset sound settings and now everything sounds fkin odd

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zzzz

south kayak
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gg

cobalt relic
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bro

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loke

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like

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idfk what im gon do

thick fossil
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le sigh, the LFG staring game. Waiting for invites.

cobalt relic
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I NEED IT CRISP

thick fossil
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?

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You ok there @cobalt relic ?

cobalt relic
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no im depressed

olive wraith
cobalt relic
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that's a lie

thick fossil
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keks fair

smoky vale
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HOLY AURA

cobalt relic
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getting invited always better

smoky vale
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@celest anchor

olive wraith
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Idk

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I just wasted 15 mins for nothing lol

winter shoal
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My first 10 mil :^)

olive wraith
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Dayum

winter shoal
bitter palm
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finally...

jade cipher
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guys

smoky vale
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guys

plush zephyr
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Liquid Gio confirmed

jade cipher
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does rashanan in DB take same damage on boat as downstairs?

smoky vale
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yes

plush zephyr
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Bro what for real

smoky vale
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the damage dealt on the boat doesnt show after a certain point

jade cipher
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so if you lust and fulll cds upstairs you can go down with 62% for example?

smoky vale
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you should lust p2

winter shoal
smoky vale
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but you should also press cds p1

bitter palm
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its not like ur cds do anything anyway

jade cipher
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its a general question rather than wanting to know what to do

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i want to know how much my damage upstairs matter

winter shoal
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Almost none

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I mean you might as well do dam anyways bc like Cone said it's not like saving your cds matters

smoky vale
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it matters

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because you do damage to the boss

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🙂

olive wraith
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Ya better to drop our fat burst clueless

sullen dove
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think lowest ive seen that boss let you phase at is like 62.5% or something

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imagine final bomb doesnt go over a certain limit

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to not like... kill it before it flies or 1 second after landing

smoky vale
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i think its more so rp moment

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you can def kill 1s after landing

sullen dove
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if ur doing like a +2 maybe idk if theres actually no limit on what its hp can be before it gets lost

sullen dove
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first time on the server where all the people converge eh

bitter palm
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"random people" 🥀

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i need to move to na to find godkingbazeface

smoky vale
winter shoal
marble ruin
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What to do if I drop jugg stacks, curse God on st?

gusty cloak
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glazing

plush zephyr
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lmaaaaaooo

bitter palm
marble ruin
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As fury

bitter palm
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not that big

young swan
bitter palm
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u dont want it to happen but u dont lose all damage like arms

bitter palm
spare steppe
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Crying is fine, arms just has to give up

bitter palm
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first time ive seen people rolling to war

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gg -40% incoming

young swan
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first time its ever happened

spare steppe
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Nah classic

jovial thicket
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Does the enrage dmg buff apply to the rampage that enrages you, or is it only for the abilities you use after the rampage that enrages you. Does that make sense? Lol

young swan
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enrages before damage

bitter palm
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rampage enrages u then does the damage

smoky vale
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:3

compact knot
jovial thicket
winter shoal
compact knot
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hollly

young swan
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yeah huge liquid pick up tbh

covert coyote
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does anyone elses M Jastor diamond still sim better than a M Omega ring from raid? I'm tired of this S2 ring, grandpa

young swan
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get rid of it

stoic marsh
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What about DISC belt?

young swan
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banked that shit 2 weeks ago

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i got rid of that too but only because i got a bis mythic belt

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nothing wrong with disc

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jastor diamond bugs out

stoic marsh
young swan
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and gets like 100k less hp

jovial thicket
covert coyote
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I've never seen my diamond not have a 85%+ uptime in a breakdown

sullen dove
# smoky vale

Did this guy just ping to someone not in his group

young swan
sullen dove
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“Go here”

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🦗

modest hollow
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hey guys, do you always use up all 4 ww stacks? or press rampage at 3 stacks?

sullen dove
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uh I mean yea go all 4 if u can

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just waste 20% of your potential good globals recasting ww early

young swan
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bro is playing the closed midnight alpha with fan of longswords

sullen dove
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it’s crazy how fan of longswords is just cringe and boring

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But like it’d be cool if it was active during avatar or something

young swan
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its just cringe pressing ww during cd's

sullen dove
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yer

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Or of node tbh

undone flower
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Im one of those who don’t see the appeal, but I accept to see during CDs

sullen dove
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press odyns next 10-12 seconds ramp casts ww

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would actually make it big on aoe

smoky vale
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what is fan of lonwswords

undone flower
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Rampage casts ww

sullen dove
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torghast power

undone flower
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Rampage cast thunderblast ?

sullen dove
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holy

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yea that might not work with thane

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Or at the very least if it stays thunderclaps

smoky vale
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that might be too strong no

young swan
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it would be yeah

sullen dove
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Tcs are who cares

smoky vale
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tbs

lyric cliff
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hey , which Weakaura pack is the best for fury ?

young swan
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you would, at the least, have to put an icd on fan

sullen dove
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Tho u wouldn’t rly need it on thane anyway

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since u tb so much anyway

young swan
sullen dove
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think of node isn’t the worst if u don’t take of as thane anyway

young swan
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its entirely personal preference

undone flower
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But if you get a TB proc, would it be too strong if rampage consumes it ?

lyric cliff
sullen dove
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probably which is why don’t think it should

young swan
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i use revvez's UI pack

sullen dove
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only cast tc no matter what

young swan
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but its paid

lyric cliff
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oh

young swan
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if you want a free one, im pretty sure theres a ton of options on wago

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that one guy makes them for every class

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gapping on his name rn

sullen dove
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There’s a diff between ramp auto casting a shit button to enable your aoe vs a button that does 30% of your dmg on aoe as well as making u aoe more

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tc is bad tho so should be chill to leave it at that

undone flower
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Well current thane doesn’t cast a lot of tc

timid forge
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What are u guys spending ur spark on this week? ring/neck or crafting belts?

lyric cliff
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i cant find a good one

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can anyone share me their UI pack ?

young swan
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oh

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luxthos

bitter palm
young swan
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publik's looks decent

sullen dove
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If u do any amount of myth raid a rly good belt drops off 2nd boss so i think jewelry more ideal craft but if u have banger rings and necks can kinda go off

undone flower
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A reason I don’t see fan of longeword dream coming true ever, it would be too much slayer oriented

sullen dove
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First 2 m pugs not that bad to do

bitter palm
gleaming siren
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wtf youre a baby

undone flower
smoky vale
undone flower
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Unstoppable force ? AM on avatar cook ?

young swan
gleaming siren
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Rampage should autocast Whirlwind, Raging Blow and Bloodthirst

warm crag
young swan
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but most of the freely available weakaura packs come with all the necessary information, most are probably bloated

gleaming siren
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Like Stasis but zug

young swan
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if you want a paid weakaura pack, figure that out for yourself

stoic marsh
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Will a separate WW tracker also lag due to rampage?

young swan
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you need a special weakaura to make it not lag

gleaming siren
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The buff itself is delayed

stoic marsh
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Amazing

young swan
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what anda57 said

gleaming siren
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So the only way to not have it delay is check for casts and manually remove 1 from a counter each time

warm crag
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hello anda57

gleaming siren
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Cause tracking the buff has the delay until blizz gets around to fixing it

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hello Spongie57 happy birthday

warm crag
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thanks!

undone flower
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Happy 57 birthday

gleaming siren
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I did 24 keys on my Hunter this week

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aware

timid forge
supple laurel
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Happy birthday! hope you had a great day

lyric cliff
warm crag
gleaming siren
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I did 7 and Hardmode on Krieger

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and first 3

warm crag
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you did 7 hardmodes on krieger?

gleaming siren
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yea

warm crag
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can you come join me in an ultimate (510 light level)

gleaming siren
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we failed each one before first boss

undone flower
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Krieger is what class

gleaming siren
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Maybe someday I can taste victory in hardmode

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If my tank (Spongie57) doesn't troll me

warm crag
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i have never griefed a hardmode

radiant sentinel
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What’s the significance of the 57? Is that how old you guys are?

gleaming siren
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yea

undone flower
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Show us the date of your achievement spongue

bitter palm
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gio five seven

gleaming siren
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Spongie did not complete Deathless Hardmode week 1 (the only week it was kinda hard)

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Therefore he is a noober and so am I

undone flower
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So he griefed 1 run

#

Lie smell like up dog

radiant sentinel
gleaming siren
olive wraith
#

Any1 got tips for the streets triple boss

#

It feels kinda ass as melee

smoky vale
bitter palm
warm crag
warm crag
smoky vale
#

who is giofiveseven

young swan
keen dove
#

do we just channel stone idol and then reck/ava charge or we use it after charge in raid

olive wraith
#

The menagerie fight

warm crag
smoky vale
keen dove
#

thank you

trail bane
#

"Dont invite the monk we need a dk"

bitter palm
young swan
#

lmfao

olive wraith
trail bane
#

Clearly its impossible to time a 12 without meta specs

feral ivy
#

did anyone get a good vault it seems not

chilly fractal
#

Best would’ve been SH boots

pulsar quest
#

I got mythic arcane core or mythic hoa neck

#

But idk what to pick

#

And myth chest

chilly fractal
pulsar quest
#

Cause like, we extended and I’m still not in for nexus king and prob not in for dimensius so I feel like arcanocore is useless

#

Nah no reclear

chilly fractal
#

Ah

pulsar quest
#

So I’m probably not raiding for like next 3 weeks so I’m thinking might take neck or chest

#

Cause arcanocore is mid in mythic plus

#

And I can always get an arcanocore later on

chilly fractal
#

Prob chest

sullen dove
#

if not raiding surely can just join 2/8 pugs

#

and decent chance of getting chest/core

smoky vale
#

wait

#

eddie

#

come to gio super team run

#

i know dragindeez is excited to come back after vacation

chilly fractal
#

Oh yea if your guild doesn’t mind you doing that then 100% pug what you can

zinc remnant
#

guys, Reckless Abandon is good for m+?

smoky vale
runic acorn
#

so uhh, anyone else still rocking jastor's diamond? lol

#

only a few rings actually better on sim

cobalt relic
#

ggwp

languid willow
runic acorn
agile notch
runic acorn
worn rain
#

it is bugged not in sims

#

but in game

#

also if your rings sims close I would go for high ilvl one just for stamina

candid falcon
#

anyone here have experience with signet of the priory? got super cheesed by vault and it was the best choice

indigo arch
#

You'd be better off with a socket

#

2m trinkets are ass

candid falcon
#

damn. def made a mistake then

worn rain
#

it can be decent in M+

earnest canyon
plush zephyr
#

@earnest canyon I saw you lurking 🧙

plush zephyr
#

2min cd sucks but it’s still good

#

Feel like there’s a ton of good/great trinkets out rn

earnest canyon
candid falcon
earnest canyon
#

It's proper shit atm but I have no tier at all. Will see after reset

plush zephyr
#

personallyyyy have av/reck/tempered pot/trink/orc racial all macro’d together but have separate keybinds for them. But yeah I just macro it altogether and send it.

#

I had signet most of last tier, worked fine in m+.

trim crystal
#

hey all im wondering what trinkets i should be using for mplus, i have 710 idol, 704 ant, 710 screams and 710 sac, ive been using idol and ant for mplus

fading blade
#

hey brothers should we craft belt or what?

edgy widget
feral egret
#

I cant decide what spec to open the vault as

olive wraith
modest condor
#

do you want 1h weapons?

feral egret
#

I also off PRot

feral egret
plush zephyr
#

Poor neglected prot:(

sour tangle
plush zephyr
#

Play fury/prot spec arms okayge

sour tangle
#

but its my 6th alt

feral egret
#

so after further review, still as arms?

sour tangle
#

Got fire mage, hpal, brewmaster, sub rogue, mm hunt and fury warr

#

drowning in vaults to fill

feral egret
feral ivy
#

should i replace the belt or wait till it gets nerfed? i do have a mythic track belt to replace it

calm swallow
#

Well this week sucks lol

uneven gazelle
#

Is wowhead trolling me by saying to take critical chain in my belt? I thought crit was our least desirable stat

#

Tried checking what ppl in logs are wearing but as far as I can tell you cant check discs

worn rain
#

and if we talk about big amount

#

big = good

#

zug zug

uneven gazelle
#

That's what I needed to hear. Zug zug

restive peak
#

A lot of us run haste with slayer now

#

You can sim your belt things

oblique thistle
#

finally myth wep

winter shoal
#

@bitter palm

#

another one

bitter palm
#

gg

#

@warm crag one more soul harvested...

winter shoal
warm crag
#

its over

oblique thistle
#

whats wrong with this thing

warm crag
#

nothing

sour tundra
#

apparently there's a new slayer build that doesn't take rally? anyone know if its good

warm crag
#

if you dont take rally to every piece of content you do you are slightly dented but thats ok

winter shoal
rough torrent
#

probably matters a bit more on rings/neck, but everything else is kinda just a decent mix

heavy dock
#

shouldve simmed the ring

runic walrus
#

Is single minded fury not viable?

winter shoal
#

Depends how you define viable

#

It's like 8-10% worse

runic walrus
#

that looks not viable lmao.

sour tundra
#

hmm should i pick a mythic weapon from vault or belt? since the delve belt got nerfed

lavish nimbus
#

so yall

#

hero interloper boots (have myth track already) or myth helmet

#

sim says i gain the most with myth helmet by at least 1%

sullen dove
#

If already 1 then can belt

pearl gate
#

really new to fury! Saw for stats we will want to stack Mastery and Haste. But wowhead also says haste will drop pretty quickly upon soft cap. May i know whats the soft cap for haste?

sullen dove
#

not common to exactly follow numbers and %s of stats since simming makes all those decisions for you but idk around 30-35% baseline haste usually where u at

winter shoal
#

Surely this locks in right guys

sullen dove
#

cluegi

pearl gate
sinful spoke
dire vigil
#

Waiting for Araz reclear tonight to pick but insane vault

neat jetty
#

Can I get some vault advice? Gloves have avoidance and Idol has speed. Already have 723 Sacbrood and Arcanocore so gloves seem like the pick, but its gonna feel bad passing both those trinkets

young swan
#

antenna

#

hello

rough torrent
#

take antenna, gloves drop off 2nd boss in raid

#

and half the grps have them alrdy and pass

young swan
#

very unlucky to get that much good shit in 1 vault tho

rough torrent
#

1 downside of taking antenna is you can't roll in raid and sell it

#

lol

serene socket
#

Would yall take the mythic gloves or the heroic antenna?

rough torrent
#

myth gloves

runic acorn
#

what are you all crafting this week?

rough torrent
#

hat

#

got chest in vault and gloves off soulbinder

runic acorn
#

legs would be my biggest upgrade but would hate to then get legs off of loom

serene socket
#

is belt any better for us than DISC?

young swan
#

mythic soulbinder belt

rough torrent
#

yes any and all of them

#

catalyze into bis

runic acorn
#

might do shoulders since they only drop from hunters...

rough torrent
#

crafting a tier slot is usually pretty low prio for me since you have basically double chance in vault of getting them

#

but once you have myth in 4 of them its not bad i think

runic acorn
#

3 are myth for me but yeah, could always do ring or neck too

rough torrent
#

there's 4 shoulders in the dungeon pool

runic acorn
#

tru

wind citrus
#

Why is bloodthirst so low on rotation if u need to cast to trigger reap the storm?

rough torrent
#

you dont

#

4 set

wind citrus
#

Where is the talent overwhelmed located? So I can read more about it

feral egret
#

Hero talent tree middle rows

unique vigil
#

what abilty do we prio in st/aoe when RB has no charges left?

feral egret
#

Rampage
Bt
??

#

There's more?

sour tangle
#

Do I just sim 1 target 5 min patchwerk for m+?

#

for all my other chars im supposed to just take whatever sims the best on st and play it in keys

rough torrent
#

thats fine to do for war also, althought id be careful w/ trinkets

#

those you might just want to evaluate individually

sour tangle
#

Ye I already plan to run antenna+idol for keys

#

despite idol not simming super well on st

rough torrent
#

ya idol doesnt sim well in ST doesnt mean throw it away lol

sour tangle
#

Got sacbrood and arcanocore atm but arcanocore doesnt feel that good in keys

sullen dove
#

thats just phenomenal

winter shoal
#

who voted for this dogshit ahh dungeon

sour tangle
#

the idiots voted for dungs with good loot rather than good design

sullen dove
#

this dungeon has 0 good loot

sour tangle
#

the trink is great

#

but its overshadowed by alot of other trinkets currently

sullen dove
#

so its bad

#

just like arakara

#

clowns voting for trinkets that suck

#

and now forced to play terrible dungeons

sour tangle
#

maybe it sucks for u

#

But regardless ye ppl are stupid

#

I just want Freehold every season

#

At least current dungeon pool is miles better than last season

sullen dove
#

i miss city of threads

rough torrent
winter shoal
sour tangle
#

ye giga banned

sullen dove
#

it had cringe bosses but vibe was good

#

and third boss had 0 armor so we were like 30% higher than next best dps

young swan
sullen dove
#

imagine it now

sour tangle
sullen dove
#

60% higher than next highest dps

sour tangle
#

stat sticks seem way better

sullen dove
#

arcano is worth for strength the dmg is nothing in m+

rough torrent
#

it sims better than my 710 pacemaker but whatever replace both eventually

mystic kayak
winter shoal
mystic kayak
#

am raiding rn

#

714 ilvl

compact knot
#

my character is so strong now

#

holy

sullen dove
#

heroic forgeweaver is jus like

mystic kayak
sullen dove
#

have your guild afk

bitter palm
#

ahh trinkets anyway

mystic kayak
compact knot
#

forgeweaver you need to be in a boost run

#

with like 10 people dead

bitter palm
#

myth signet

#

aware

mystic kayak
#

huh

compact knot
#

killed loom, went from 704 champ legs and 704 sacbrood to 710 legs and 710 antenna

#

ez

sullen dove
#

funneled pig

compact knot
#

not funneled

#

smh

#

also got screams on heroic

#

haha

rough torrent
mystic kayak
#

yeah my jewelry is unlucky

#

it ALL has vers on it :(

rough torrent
#

lol

sly tusk
#

New spark aviable this week. Whats our next crafted piece?

rough torrent
#

i have 6194 vers and vers still doesn't sim super crazy for me

#

i take it anyways, because it's like best by a little damage wise and then the defensive component

winter shoal
rough torrent
#

is leech>avoidance? i've seen a few ppl using it

sullen dove
#

think usually a tossup between seasons depends on how much stuff from raid actually applies to avoidance

#

its not always everything sometimes its a ton sometimes its a little

#

i think i just generally like leech cuz i can at least see its value on hps meters

#

avoid doesnt rly show how much less dmg you take i think unless maybe its trackable by logs but never cared to look for that

#

leech also fun for like m+ cuz do more damage on more targets = heal more me thinks

#

did like 60% of my healing in a 12 floodgate and not too much was overhealing

rough torrent
#

yeah a decent amount of that is baseline tho

sullen dove
#

i think i healed myself more than the healer healed me that key actually

#

bro was hanging me out to dry

#

yea u get 3% baseline leech

#

i have like 7% with gear

#

could have more i think but i like speed bracer

rough torrent
#

this is mine w/ 2 avoidance enchants

#

in last 10hoa

olive wraith
#

Death drive doing work

bitter palm
rough torrent
#

lotta executes

feral ivy
#

forgeweaver mythic yall getting auto by the fucken echo?

winter shoal
#

Nop

sullen dove
#

idk im off it the second it spawns

#

or like assuming you soak 2nd idk maybe if first and u stay on its silly

modest condor
balmy shore
#

yippie :3

winter shoal
#

Large

modest condor
#

grats

#

cant believe you did that off-stream

balmy shore
#

ive been eppy sleepy

#

life too busy brain too tired

#

i got murdered on our third star drop in p3 :(

feral ivy
#

once we reclear today it will be our first pull on nexus .. cant wait

#

oh wiat no nvm we going to Hunters

lavish sierra
#

Are parses on wipes giod to still review. I just don't understand what I'm doing wrong rotation wise

#

I use the Wow analyzer thing and it says I should be rampaging more

sullen dove
#

the parse% may be a little wonky and inaccurate but can compare casts/dps and everything else to a kill probably yea

winter shoal
#

Wowanalyzer will say your uptime is bad if you died but otherwise a log from a wipe is fine

lavish sierra
#

If you're ending a blade storm and you've got like 120 rage like two raging blows what should your next gcd be? Should it be raging blows and afterwards rampage?

winter shoal
#

exe conditions > RB until enrage runs out or no more charges > ramp

rough torrent
#

is halls bugged for the weekly? did it and didnt get quest credit

lavish sierra
#

So basically only rampaging if you're about to exit enrage or you have no more charges.

winter shoal
#

ONLY after bladestorm

#

and you still exe with conditions above RB

#

and still maintain ww stacks in aoe etc

lavish sierra
#

Do we cleave on salad?

thick fossil
#

How annoying is the Soul hunters fight?

lavish sierra
#

When he's riding the stupid dragon

winter shoal
#

Yes

edgy widget
lavish sierra
#

Maybe that's my parse also sucked

thick fossil
jolly parrot
#

When’s eu vault time again

#

Like reset

#

6 7 am?

edgy widget
wind citrus
#

I’m almost never using bloodthirst right?

winter shoal
thick fossil
#

I may be here awhile. keks

ornate gust
lavish sierra
#

How does the priority change when you finished your supercharged rampage? Back to rampage 115 raging blows executes overall?

#

I also have been pressing roar when there's nothing else to press

winter shoal
winter shoal
edgy widget
lavish sierra
#

Thanks for answering questions. I could probably be easily answered by the rotation guide. It just pains sometimes

winter shoal
#

People are generally pretty cool about answering specific questions

#

"how do I do more damage" is the kind of question people get grumpy about

lavish sierra
#

I'm also a little bit paranoid about how I'm mashing buttons during the gcd

#

I never really got that. I just been mashing them like crazy and I never know if I accidentally double press

#

As if playing a fury warrior was like playing DragonForce

winter shoal
#

Yeah might be worth looking at your spellqueue

#

I know with the default 400, I feel like my inputs get doubled all the time during lust/haste procs

#

I play on 140 and still get that sometimes but that's also maybe a skill issue on my end

#

Happens a lot like on pull of soul hunters where there's just shit all over the screen and I'm at 10 fps

sour tangle
#

wtf 140

#

Theres no shot thats doing u any good

compact knot
#

slayer kidna fucking crANKS on soul hunter

#

s

winter shoal
sour tangle
#

default is objectively better

winter shoal
#

Maybe on some caster classes but not a high haste melee class

sour tangle
#

Then u just have pc issue

#

I dont think there are any other good players that play with that kind of sqw

lavish sierra
#

I'm thinking it might be my keyboard honestly. Some steelseries Apex gen 1 crap

#

I tried it on a different keyboard and everything felt so much cleaner

#

I thought I was going insane

sour tangle
#

idk I play 400 sqw and I have no issues what so ever, I didnt even notice a difference when I swapped from 200 to 400

thorny jewel
#

Re: Slayer and bloodthirst. I understand why raging blow is higher priority than BT, but I don't get why we wouldn't hit BT with 95%+ crit? Why are we still spec'd into Cold Steel, Hot Blood if we don't? Seems like a wasted point, as does Bloodcraze, but I get we need Bloodcraze for Deft Experience.

winter shoal
sour tangle
#

For reference I play fire mage with 55% base haste 95 cpm

winter shoal
plush zephyr
sour tangle
#

No but u can ask literally anyone like its been said again and again that changing ur sqw is generally bad or ineffective

#

Lower sqw just leaves more room for error

#

if he has 140 sqw he needs to press his buttons within 0.14 sec before gcd is over to not get a gap between his abilities

winter shoal
#

Yes

#

so I do 🙂

sinful spoke
#

frac kill

#

did i crank chat

winter shoal
sour tangle
#

Gj

winter shoal
#

SQW diff

sour tangle
#

is that good st for fury?

#

I main mage I must be extremly spoiled

winter shoal
#

I sim like 5.5

#

1t 5m

sour tangle
#

Thats cracked

#

does fury have low variance?

winter shoal
#

Slayer is pretty normal variance

sour tangle
#

I guess other specs can beat their sim dps by alot from having rng in their rotation

winter shoal
#

Thane has extremely high variance

#

Not mm hunter level

sour tangle
#

Like arcane, mm, bm and ele

winter shoal
#

But very high

sour tangle
#

I wanted to play fury so I have a spec that isnt all casino

winter shoal
#

Yeah slayer is definitely one of the more consistent classes

#

There are a lot of procs but they're quick so it averages out

sour tangle
#

but its not like arcane where u do a 8-9m opener one pull and 6m the other pull

winter shoal
#

Not as slayer no

#

As thane sometimes

quiet breach
#

slayer is consistent

thane you live or die based on blast procs

latent stone
#

is it normal for details and warcraftlogs to be pretty different on bosses like Fractillus?

quiet breach
#

should I raise my sqw if I feel like I have input lag sometimes? I use 200

winter shoal
#

Sometimes things are excluded from logs but not on Frac

modest condor
#

if you're playing with an aug evoker yeah

somber elk
#

what would you pick? i have 710 offhand

vivid dune
#

gratz on the antenna

#

so this just happend

latent stone
latent stone
compact knot
#

yo fractillus owns

#

fun boss

winter shoal
#

He's huge

compact knot
#

that was my first kill of it

#

joke of a boss ngl

#

fury's niche is hitting a target dummy

thick fossil
#

How many wall breaks did you get stuck with?

compact knot
#

3?

#

leaping back is pretty free

#

i had very good antenna rng i think

thick fossil
#

Yeah,

winter shoal
hardy cargo
#

I had to break 7 walls this week 🙁

thick fossil
#

I keep getting drive by clowns dumping their circle on my assigned spot.

compact knot
#

weakaura does the whole fight for you

compact knot
#

also my screams kinda blows sometimes

#

it did 3% on my plexus kill

#

4.5% on my frac kill

#

not sure if thats the norm

hardy cargo
#

yeah ive seen some wide swings on tht trinket did a first 5 2x raid sale with some other warriors first time around did like 10% of this guys dam then next one did 4%

compact knot
#

it does 5.2% on a quick sim

#

i have a warpclaw in my vault but it sims like shit

hexed wave
#

terrible trinket

compact knot
#

wish i got a better vault

#

think its socket though

winter shoal
compact knot
#

ive got a 710 one

chilly plume
#

fract is just tilting the fuck out of me how are we wiping to this

compact knot
#

socket wrists prob isnt bad

#

i could upgrade the warpclaw to 724 > 710 screams it still sims worse

willow cradle
thick fossil
#

I average about 4

stiff furnace
#

Is anybody else struggling to find a decent raiding guild?

compact knot
#

sockets in every single piece of gear though is good

#

W

chilly plume
#

i am tweaking the fuck out

compact knot
#

🦅

tawny heron
#

yoyo got an ass vault (probably socket), but have a mythic prism in there. sims like shit i know, but the sim is just pressing prism on cd even with no reck up is that really the best use off it sim wise?

compact knot
#

is it really doing that

#

hmm

#

let me check

#

its good on some fights, very good

stone steeple
#

Hey gang, new to Fury, stat wise, when do i stop stacking mastery?

tawny heron
frank dawn
compact knot
# tawny heron

this is strange, you would probably just use it with every avatar

#

its also really good on bosses with random aoe burst and damage amps, which is like 4/8 fights in this raid

#

i actually think it could be bis on nexus king

#

up2u im (assuming) its hero track and i think taking hero track is cringe

#

would rather take a socket over it

tawny heron
#

its myth

compact knot
#

oh

#

considering you are probably about to prog nexus king soon, i dont think its a bad take, you just have to play around it and not forget its existence

sullen dove
#

itd only be like 3 uses on the fight rite

compact knot
#

yeah

sullen dove
#

assuming timings similar as on heroic

compact knot
#

you would use it

#

3 mins in

sullen dove
#

like with 2nd avatar 90s in then hold for 180s which is full stack

compact knot
#

then 4:30

sullen dove
#

cuz about 4:30 is the burn

#

ur not full stacking burn?

#

isnt 3:00 like adds

#

ig if youre padding adds sure

compact knot
#

3 is adds

#

but you dont want to waste stacks

sullen dove
#

but for boss killing purposes

compact knot
#

if you dont want too

sullen dove
#

yea use at 1:30 in then 4:30 in

#

shouldnt waste much

compact knot
#

^

sullen dove
#

then idk right before boss dies last 5% or something

#

or whenever your next set of cds are

compact knot
#

send with last avatar then just spam it off cd prob until boss die

#

its also good on dimensius

#

but maybe less good

sullen dove
#

yea "it" is good on dimensius just "we" are not

#

(at the burn)

frank dawn
#

someday we might be able to spec into burst damage again

compact knot
#

fury isnt good at the burn but its not bad in p3 overall

#

prob like middle of the pack

olive wraith
#

I didn’t make it to 15s

plush tendon
#

hello i have a smooth brain and this line in the wowhead article has confused me
Raging Blow repeatedly after Bladestorm, to build up Slaughtering Strikes for a bigger Rampage
would one just dump available blow charges and send rampage? or until enrage is about to run out? or just vibes?

plush zephyr
#

It ain’t. Right. I tell ya. The keys my mage gets into that my warrior doesn’t. Is. Fucking crazy. It genuinely shocks me.

pale lava
grim gull
#

any1 here playing with cursed stone idol? how does the channel work? can it still be macroed to avatar?

plush tendon
pale lava
arctic pivot
#

yo can u have 2 BOE rings equipped?

summer quail
jolly parrot
#

then pop cdss

undone flower
#

vault opening 🙏

jolly parrot
#

4 chars 4 good items

#

warr is full myth track setpieces now

#

bis trinket hunter, bis ring havoc, myth trrack chesst feral

grim gull
undone flower
#

can't believe i'm gonna take arcano core in my vault

#

i will wait reclear

jolly parrot
#

whys arrcano 714

#

huh

summer quail
#

so for example if you killed dimensius on mythic, then all items in vault for raid would be 717 base

#

for that current week

jolly parrot
#

crazy

summer quail
#

big good change

undone flower
#

guess it's gilded on legs and boots -> craft next week ring angle

olive wraith
#

So start idol cast then charge

tiny jewel
#

Quick question. Maybe im just unlucky but have any of you simmed out the delve belt or jastors diamond yet?

pale lava
tiny jewel
#

I figure the belt would have to be mythic. Im just surprised that heroic jastors diamond is still holding up to my heroic season 3 rings

sullen dove
#

how to you get an mrt note to get back on your screen if its potentially off screen

quartz knot
#

Just curious in higher keys do you switch to def stance on aoe pulsating dmg? i.e. swamp boss floodgate/dawnbreaker second to last boss

sullen dove
#

if necessary to live yea probably

#

may depend group to group

#

im sure ppl using it on cd in top keys tho