fury

[thick fossil]

"Never trust anyone over 30." - Nick Carraway

[tidal kindle]

Stop talk fk boom

[thick fossil]

30s were so long along....

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-gif-4679601

[chrome plover]

makes sense, you had it first

[smoky vale]

i only know one person irl with my birthday

[arctic pivot]

yo guys do i spend 1.5m to get a helm wtih leech

[radiant sentinel]

no

[smoky vale]

no

[coarse nest]

No wonder my logs go down every tier 20 year olds rising up

[chrome plover]

what kind of question is that

[arctic pivot]

but leech does so much healing

[coarse nest]

Boomer ass

[radiant sentinel]

fury lends well to the zoomer generation.

[coarse nest]

[sage smelt]

ez

[wheat lantern]

pick another myth wep ? already had myth Tier chest

[mossy pelican]

another week another no myth track wep

[chrome plover]

myth off hand is nice

or i guess main hand with crafted oh

[mossy pelican]

3 myth track bracers this game fucking hates me

[wheat lantern]

it will be my second myth wep or just stick with my 720 crafted

[thick fossil]

Holy shit. Helmet has a socket, Ring has a socket, Gloves have avoidance. Sheeeeeesh

[tidal kindle]

Leech, no
Speed, yes

[young swan]

oh boy i have a funny vault

[smoky vale]

thats a netheprism angle

[coarse nest]

Can you put Dawn/dusk on jewelry? I’ve never attempted to myself

[smoky vale]

xan did showingbelly have passion

[young swan]

i could be very silly and take the trinket

[arctic pivot]

ok well fuck tertiaries then

[young swan]

i didnt even do 8 keys on the warrior what do u think

[smoky vale]

[young swan]

oh wait

[dire canyon]

mythic tier shoulders or belt? any help greatly appreciated

[young swan]

showing belly got one 10 done

[wheat lantern]

so i have 2 myth weps , do i make the switch to threads now ?

[thick fossil]

https://imgur.com/a/7KsyCKl

[latent steeple]

this axe is trash or no

[wheat lantern]

yep , ur cursed

[compact knot]

if only my warrior could get this...

[dense elbow]

I like stat weights, show how much I can lift

[thick fossil]

[smoky vale]

take ring

[calm mantle]

how do I sim for m+ /aoe? did a patch work 5 target 2 minute nightly

[compact knot]

thats not a bad arcane ring

actually bis for bis profile

but uh

[smoky vale]

5-xt 40s

[stark lantern]

simming... but part of me thinks I should take the wep but on the contrary the neck piece is somewhat tempting... since I could end up with a myth 2h or wait and craft a second 2h

[compact knot]

so is antenna

[smoky vale]

nah antenna annoying af with uptime

esp in nexus dimmy

[compact knot]

my mage prob isnt killing dim for awhile

[thick fossil]

Ooof, Helm and Ring are equal upgrades
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7Z8CMWiWyZPT7pvN7Ctbu2

[smoky vale]

do you have a mythic weapon already

[compact knot]

warrior should kill m dim soon

[smoky vale]

ring will be harder to acquire

[mystic sage]

were we meant to get a catalyst charge this week?

[thick fossil]

Helm w socket tho

[unborn delta]

Wing commander is haste/mast right? If you don’t want to buy myth Boe helm it’s bis

[smoky vale]

ring

you will get a bad vault eventually

[unborn delta]

And there’s like 10 haste/vers/mast rings

[burnt vector]

Hey guys question; what is the best when you are in a bug pull and the 10 stacks already applied; Just fully priorise raging blow or try to find window to use the execute proc to get back blade tempest and recast it asap

[stark lantern]

crafted 2h w/ embellishment + Hero circuit breaker, but I think it's a vault I could hold off on until raid since the neck does look tempting... I mean theres only so many haste + mastery weps so I think that would be the choice and Ill end up crafting a neck or ring if I pass up on the neck

[onyx musk]

is cursed stone idol that far ahead from arcancore in m+? i already have antenna

[smoky vale]

you take weapon

[unborn delta]

Only 1 haste/mast/vers helm

[vale dove]

ye you dont take a hero helm over a myth track item

anyway

[unborn delta]

It’s myth 707

[calm mantle]

Am I simming wrong? Arcanocore is coming up better the sacbrood on 5 targets
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1iTpX65dpe1q7tNPj8JuTR

[vale dove]

o true with a socket too.

[smoky vale]

increase target count

it should lose

[vale dove]

Helm would prob be more damage as he coould farm hero track ring and upgrade that to 710

[storm birch]

I’m scared to replace my belt

[stark lantern]

yeah it would sim the highest in terms of dps I would reckon, plus not many M+ 2h w/ haste + Mastery, but im hoping to see the ring from halls and neck again eventually from the vault

[storm birch]

Got my sims cookin rn . I’m gonna miss that crit 🥲

[smoky vale]

you could eventually craft a neck

having mythic weapon and crafted neck should always be better than other way around

[stark lantern]

yeah, I believe it's also crafting week? so I got options to either craft a ring / neck

[unborn sparrow]

i want all trinkets

can only pick 1

[stark lantern]

ironically thats exactly what I also put in my sim lol

[calm mantle]

Wait until you raid this week

[burnt vector]

completing my question would the correct be a mix of both ? fully focusing on rb if the 10 stacks are applied and when in executing phase using the exec proc and before the phase just fully focus on rb

[calm mantle]

even at 10 targets Arcano is beating out sacbrood

[smoky vale]

are you locking in your other trinket or

[north sky]

Thoughts on what I should take? Both Myths would be replacing Hero

idk if sac is good at all

[hushed gust]

There’s a Weakaura for sudden death on the WoWhead page for Fury. Follow that. If it’s not glowing, spam RB and maintain enrage.

[calm mantle]

I'm simming Antenna 623 with Sac 710 and Arcano 710 Tho I can upgrade arcano to 723 I just wanted to see diference at base

[burnt vector]

Thanks !

[north sky]

Does someoen know if sac is like good?

[thick fossil]

Yeah, I think the helm is the best bet.

[gusty cloak]

is it bad taking mythic belt?? 23k dps upgrade.. i had shoulder/weap, which i had both mythic

[smoky vale]

wtf

surely wait until reclear

[thick fossil]

I plan on it, but I think the helm is still gonna be the best to grab.

[harsh sequoia]

Do you guys take the highest simmed dps increase even if it is only a hero track item?

[thick fossil]

More stam, armor, plus bis Stats. Where as the helm from raid is random stats.

[north sky]

It would have to be crazy high for me to do so

[vale dove]

not if u can easily farm said hero track item

[thick fossil]

and we sell all our BoEs even to guildies.

[eternal sundial]

@smoky vale enterprising hero reap the storm 57

[north sky]

Anyone know about my question at all?

[smoky vale]

@whole remnant sing me birthday song

[harsh sequoia]

ty

[whole remnant]

happy birthday

[eternal sundial]

What does the sim say

[north sky]

Raidbots is blowing up

[eternal sundial]

But also tier is less likely to fall out of favour for better options

[north sky]

so I dont have it yet

[eternal sundial]

Happy Birthday my glorious King

[north sky]

Terror sac seems ok for STR but worthless in MT

I have champ Antenna and hero seaforium

Maybe I just go sac

but tierset is always value

[smoky vale]

[whole remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/soyjak-smile-heart-gif-6251237421459900038

[north sky]

lifegem

[eternal sundial]

Dark Souls 2 scholar of the first sin

[calm mantle]

Still can't figure out why my Arcano core sims higher then sacbrood on m+ talents with 5 targets

[north sky]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

[eternal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/absolutes-kino-absolute-cinema-heinz-comedy-absolutes-farbfernsehen-gif-17982150284233947970

[whole remnant]

[chilly fractal]

at least I'm done with my Myth tier... but gotta wait until next week to catalyze

wrong fucking boots tho

[south kayak]

all reap no gg

[south kayak]

I thought you were in your late 20s

[tired cobalt]

can i have an advice here? neck or legs myth?

[chrome plover]

i am (very late)

[south kayak]

lmao

same

[naive latch]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[chrome plover]

#fury message

[south kayak]

Damn, happy birthday

I am 30 in a few months

[radiant plank]

Damn retiring in a few years?

[stark lantern]

yeah the myth wep at 723 is 100k+ dps increase. Now simming w/ rings w/ diff secondaries (Haste + Mastery) / (vers + Mastery) / (Haste + Vers) Considering it'll prob take a few vault rng to get the correct neck / rings

[radiant plank]

100k whuh

did u go from 694 weapon

[chrome plover]

[wheat lantern]

these sims are taking forever , ZZZZZ. wanna know my best outcome with switching to 2 myth track weapons instead of a crafted wep

[undone flower]

Too many people here are born 9 month after January 1st (me included)

[undone flower]

Happy birthday fiveseven

[charred flint]

on ST its not worth it

you'll lose the embelishment

i think

[coarse nest]

This is the best retirement home I’ve ever been to personally

[charred flint]

I got fucking

4 chests from vault

its an upgrade but lol

[undone flower]

I got 6 loot from this week reclear

We are not the same

[manic dragon]

How do I get my WW weak aura to light up when it runs out of stacks rather than disapearing.

[stark lantern]

710

[stoic star]

Never had this good of a vault

[smoky vale]

wrong character gg...

[chilly fractal]

F

[stoic star]

I dont have a Cursed Idol. Do yall use it > Aranocore in Keys?

Doing Sim now but think its a situational question

[sullen dove]

arcano quite not good in keys

just the strength on it is like all of its reason for being good

[restive peak]

IDK man, noxiv is cranking with it, but it's def not great

I assume he just doesn't want to use odol

idol

[sullen dove]

yea I’m sure trinket choice is big impact there

[coarse nest]

I’d imagine that’s totally it

Idol sucks to use honestly

[undone flower]

Maybe he cranks with it because he doesn’t have looted something better

[sullen dove]

idk run up antenna and pace ez

[restive peak]

I have idol/antenna

[stoic star]

I feel like Mythic Antenna is always the better choice for M+ & Raid in General over a Myth Cursed Idol + Myth Pacemaker

[undone flower]

I still have 2 hero trinkets

[coarse nest]

For keys the dream is myth sac and myth antenna

[undone flower]

Yeah fuck idol

[coarse nest]

Maybe pacemaker depending on your stats I guess

[stoic star]

Ive been using a Normal Antenna + Hero Arcanocore and doing great. Seeing the Mythic Cursed Idol / Pacemaker in my vault is tempting but i think ima go with the Antenna tbh

[calm mantle]

I dunno at both 710 Arcano sims higher then sac for me which is tripping me out

[undone flower]

I use sacbrood+pacemaker in keys for now

[coarse nest]

The problem with Arcano is you do not control the proc

[rose blaze]

Hey i have a myth and a hero weap does it change smth in wich hand i put my myth one ?

[stoic star]

always put the bigger one in main hand iLvl wise

[rose blaze]

Okay i just win dps then xD

[calm mantle]

I guess that's true, in my mind I always thought Sac would sim higher in multi so I'm jhust surprised and confused by it

[sullen dove]

dont rly control sac proc either

would think sac higher on aoe

but idk

it is kinda mid

mfs voting for the worst dungeon in the rotation just cuz of a trinket thats bad this season

[coarse nest]

Without antenna in the equation I’d probably farm heroic sac and pacemaker and run that until you get an antenna in vault

[sullen dove]

yawn

begone vile wretch

[modest condor]

<@&257983573498265600>

[undone flower]

Do you guys prefer : idol channel or raid kyvesa S1 trinket minigame

[calm mantle]

I'm running myth atenna so maybe I just run myth arcano with it even in m+ because it'll slap in ST

[sullen dove]

kyv trink was easy if u didnt activate it in a pack of 20 mobs

[modest condor]

damn mods are asleep

[coarse nest]

I’d rather have kyveza mini game

[sullen dove]

silm blue when

[modest condor]

never

[stoic star]

What are you all going to craft this week? Neck / Ring? Or just use the Crests on upgrading gear.

[undone flower]

Loboz for blue

[coarse nest]

This channel is the most annoying shit ever

I disliked puzzle box

For the same reason

I’m not playing a caster

[gusty cloak]

you guys still using the 701 belt from last season?

[sullen dove]

w mods

hell nah

soulbinder belt on mythic very large and easily acquireable

[coarse nest]

Nah myth belt with socket finally beat it

[noble edge]

[coarse nest]

And it’s nerfed in .5 patch so replace it soon

[stoic star]

You fully upgraded the belt already with crests? I have the myth one as well

[undone flower]

Each time I need to use it mid fight I shutter smh my gcd

[radiant plank]

i never watch porn anymore, and if i do it's non penetrative at least, i learned that the effects on your brain are the same as crack cocaine, can't be doing that to myself

[coarse nest]

I did yes because my sim said that was the best way to spend my crests

[stoic star]

No one answered me about if yall are crafting this week or not 🙁

or spending crests on gear upgrades

[noble edge]

how long u clean bro

[stoic star]

good idea! ty

[radiant plank]

5yrs now

[coarse nest]

😂

[noble edge]

respect

[gusty cloak]

i have a heroic soul binder belt with socket, and a mythic one with no socket

[undone flower]

Damn 5 years???

[sullen dove]

Where did allat come from

that another copy pasta

[noble edge]

LOL

[coarse nest]

Mud lore surely

[noble edge]

not wrong tho that stuff messes you up

[coarse nest]

[sullen dove]

chatjj

[rose blaze]

Hey in AOE it's not worth to execute under 2 mark of execute right ? But in ST do i just spam all my exec ?

[undone flower]

Don’t forget we are 7000 goons away from Christmas

[sullen dove]

I’m 13000 at least

[coarse nest]

Seven thousand

Gotdayum

[noble edge]

2 showers away from Christmas

[chrome plover]

that can’t be right, it isn’t December yet

[coarse nest]

🤣

[sullen dove]

W

[undone flower]

Im glad we saw the same picture

[noble edge]

oh hell nah

[smoky vale]

[radiant plank]

Mud just jelly

[smoky vale]

mud you gotta start using

[languid willow]

aight gloves are robots way of saying bis upgrade, but belt with cata chrage and socket? like its a .4 % diff and the dleve belt gets nerfed soon right?

[noble edge]

of WHAT

[radiant plank]

Not running into soap

[noble edge]

i think shes in my discord for no reason but to try trolling me

[undone flower]

Maybe wait reclear if you trend toward the belt

if you are not in extend hell already

[smoky vale]

help

[coarse nest]

CURSED

[smoky vale]

do i take idol so i can dump crests or socket

[coarse nest]

[smoky vale]

i got the vaults on the wrong characters bor

[smoky vale]

did you see my warriors

[radiant plank]

Socket and vape

[languid willow]

no we are free of this until we get to nexus king 🙏

[smoky vale]

where is socket going

[radiant plank]

idk craft belt?

[undone flower]

Or wait to kill soulbinder

[smoky vale]

ig i craft beltus

[undone flower]

He loot the belt with less than 100 stat distribution diff with cata belt

[old harbor]

We replace our D.I.S.C. belts once we get a mythic right?

[sullen dove]

sim'll tell you when but potentially ya

[smoky vale]

soredish

[sullen dove]

soulbinder myth is rly good

[smoky vale]

where is my song

[sullen dove]

what does this mean

[smoky vale]

refer to my last message in dms

[sullen dove]

i still dont know what this means

[undone flower]

The oiled up birthday song

[sullen dove]

ic

[smoky vale]

#fury message

mud can you sing me song

[coarse nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aiQvGW48KMDojgUGekvviw

Boots will be in vault surely

[spare steppe]

If I see a mythic weapon in my vault, I take it basically right?

Can’t sim yet

[coarse nest]

I would yes

[limber oar]

Where are the other mythic raid cault slots 🤔

[limber oar]

I bless you with my boots rng

🪄

[slender glen]

I'm still using my disc belt. I just realized it's recommended to use Critical Chain for M+ and not Electric Current (Mastery). Is there a big difference?

[coarse nest]

Ty ty

[undone flower]

I bless you Brewj with my lootfed luck

[limber oar]

My tank blessed with with “bis piece with avoidance” (cant check vault till after work today tho) so i figured id pay it forward

[smoky vale]

[hollow elk]

so is there a mod for raging blow that yells "lizzard" everything we click it yet?

[coarse nest]

Our Prot war ate today

[sullen dove]

my vdh could choose between that or myth tome

[coarse nest]

@limber oar

[sullen dove]

insta yoink tome

[limber oar]

Hes going infinite

[coarse nest]

Oh yeah bro tome is giga

[limber oar]

I think our prot war got tome bot too long ago

And i blessed him with bis boots and he got it

[frozen portal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hi1VhnDrqhbgthcvRgf5bU can someone explain to me why logic gate alpha is shoiwng massive dps loss here from vault?

[noble edge]

yugemeat

[coarse nest]

Ahh yess surely the blessing works confirmed

[chrome plover]

because it's not very good for fury

ur also simming with no sockets

[frozen portal]

got it, just though over champion ring it would at leasto n its own as a standalone upgrade be a dps increase

[orchid bear]

I got a Cursed Stone Idol out of my vault. has anyone tested how to best use this? A part of me says hold off 10 stacks of overwhelmed but another part of me is just like macro it to avatar and send it

[chrome plover]

no strength on a ring so ilvl is less relevant over having good stats

[frozen portal]

oh no sockets yeah

rip

[coarse nest]

Can’t macro it fluidly

Send it during charge

It’s turbo annoying to use

Just have to deal with it

[orchid bear]

Sounds good, ty!

[limber oar]

Ring just give 2ndary stats, not main stat. So if the 2ndary stats are bad then it wont matter if it has some ilvls on w/e ring you have that have good 2ndary

Hopefully that didnt sound too confusing

[frozen portal]

yeah no that 100% makes sense

i was just thinking ilvl zugzug

so not end of the world i have champring still if good stats

[limber oar]

Nope

[orchid bear]

stares at both my rings having vers on them Awwww man lol

[limber oar]

If its better dos its better

[limber oar]

Vers is good

Im vers hungry rn

[bitter palm]

high nerubian signet curse

big momma medallion curse

[sullen dove]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/x35z1HF8mhvJzK4KoTGvzZ give me forgeweaver weapon immediately

[orchid bear]

I guess I am meming. Radiant necro band (Ver -> Mast) and Ring of Holy Cleansing (Vers -> haste) - both hero track tho lol

[young swan]

u sim more than i do shut the fuck up

[sullen dove]

i aint wearin anything special

minus myth antenna prolly

rest is easy

[young swan]

"im not wearing anything special besides the best trinket in the game"

[modest condor]

people simming 500-600k more than me definitely explains why im not keeping up in m+ with the top warriors

[young swan]

yeah whatever buddy

[sullen dove]

perhaps join 2/8 myth pugs for easy op loot

[charred flint]

dem

kelp fuckers

really need to be adjusted

aaand its a wipe

[modest condor]

you think a 2/8 myth pug is gonna accept someone who has only killed lfr bosses?

[sullen dove]

What if potentially they were made to not pull all 6 at the same time

And u do 3 kelpies and some divers

Then do that again

[coarse nest]

I’m so attacked I have both lmao

[sullen dove]

If u tell them ur warrior theorycrafter surely

[noble edge]

have you guys ever thought about pvping like men?

[coarse nest]

No I slay bosses like an actual man

[modest condor]

why would i waste time thinking about a fantasy

[chilly plume]

is screams simbait or actually good

[sullen dove]

Good on longer st fights

[chrome plover]

what about it would be sim bait

[sullen dove]

maybe not great on heroic

but op in myth

[noble edge]

nice job beating a boss designed to be killed with mechanics designed to be dodged

[sullen dove]

nice job dying in the face of rmp every season for the last 15 years

that comp actual pve in PvP

[coarse nest]

What’s more badass poking some wizard in a robe or slaying a massive dragon spewing fire at you??

[noble edge]

emoting the corpse of your enemy until the rage whisper you

[coarse nest]

Bro halo 3 “emoting” corpses aware

[stoic echo]

@cobalt relic can I get a gg?

finally got invited

[coarse nest]

[stoic echo]

easy life

[young swan]

if i wanted to play against other players i just go play dota

this games pvp system is dogshit

[rough torrent]

hero antenna troll af lol

[coarse nest]

Damn rage baited by blizzard even

Smh

[latent linden]

Am i simming this wrong?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2fA5jbdcnoTBCA3V3QTk7q

Antenna is trash?

[remote bobcat]

u have a shitton of crit my guy

its worse for your character

yea

[latent linden]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-grandpa-well-shit-grandfather-oh-shit-gif-17419001

[grand condor]

For parsing on M Soulbinder, do you guys hold your bladestorms for the 2 add sets on M Soulbinder? My guild cleaves them so fast it feels like a waste, and that I'm better off just just using whirlwind cleave on those and using bladestorm on CD

I should probably still hold bladestorm for the big group after 3rd lines

[undone flower]

I hold it, I’m the reason people can’t hit them

[remote bobcat]

go on wcl, rankings for mythic soulbinder, sort by fury warriors, click on rank one, go to replay, analyze if he has bladestorm in the situations you mentioned

[remote bobcat]

Susge

[undone flower]

I even get auged on soulbinder

If you want to max dps on the two you break, you need to have ww stacks before your blade storm (ww before they even spawn) + consume brutal finish before they die

[coarse nest]

You can farm better statted boots and ring, this will make antenna an upgrade and most likely result in higher total dps

[warm crag]

farm demon hunter boot technology

[latent linden]

bro i have

[coarse nest]

🤣

[latent linden]

LFR, normal, and heroic every week since the season started

[warm crag]

what about m+

[latent linden]

ye

[warm crag]

wtf happened in your crafting department

[latent linden]

what's wrong with it?

Double duskthread

[coarse nest]

Craft weapon by now probably

[warm crag]

no offhand craft and when you had a choice between crafting an offpiece or a low stat slot you went for the low stat slot

[latent linden]

I got the 723 i have equipped week 1

so i didn't prio weap

Also didn't have delv belt and didn't wanna grind it so i made a 720 belt

ALSO, i was prot week 1 so i made a sheild

[warm crag]

very ominous decisions indeed

ok thats goated

ok but tldr, you got some good insight on why antenna might suck for you

[warm crag]

what i can recommend is you try to put together some less crit heavy gear in a top gear sim and see how it'd do with other gear

for example try to swap out the panoply ring with idk maybe the halls ring and the boots with not those boots

[coarse nest]

Honestly I have a decent amount of crit and he’s like 400k behind almost

[latent linden]

I need teh fucking DH BOOTS PLESE FUCKING GOD

[warm crag]

but also even then its not expected for antenna to win, its an aoe trinket that does decent in ST and nothing else

[coarse nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/d1ecQbaDVDGAJops9Dbwqq

[warm crag]

crafted weapon differential who wouldve thunked

[olive wraith]

rip vault

[warm crag]

you also didnt /roll 14 to decide what slot to craft in

[latent linden]

Another Eradicating + Sac enjoyer I see

[coarse nest]

Offhand is not a 400k upgrade

[heavy dock]

i just thought abou this but can you get the same item you already have in vault? like say u have myth sacbrood, can it drop again?

[pale falcon]

yes it can

[warm crag]

ye why not

[coarse nest]

Maybe OH, ascendance, writhing, boots together is 400k

Guy needs to rebuild a little tbh

[heavy dock]

yikes

[warm crag]

hc offhand with 2 suboptimal embels into myth offhand with 2 optimal embels with infinitely better crest allocation

yeah that can amount into 400k (probs)

[coarse nest]

Yeah fair point

Guys def gotta rebuild

[heavy dock]

also i asked yday but got no answer, does anyone know if you bladestorm final priory boss, can you immune the blind?

[nocturne oyster]

any of you playing mountain thane still in m+?

[warm crag]

dont think many people will know the answer to that

[nocturne oyster]

or have u all switched to slayer

[warm crag]

most have switched to slayer ye

[heavy dock]

i would've tried but bs does not line up at all to when she does the blind lol

[nocturne oyster]

hmm, i really like how thane plays but i guess i gotta get with the times and not be an old man lmao

[warm crag]

thane is still fine probably

[heavy dock]

just play thane if u like it

its still very good

[warm crag]

slayer just does a significantly better damage pattern, but if you prefer to be lightning man, go for it

[heavy dock]

unless you're pushing 16+ keys

[nocturne oyster]

I think we're about to go into 15's

[heavy dock]

then you might wanna start slowly learning slayer xd

tbf not much to learn

[coarse nest]

Novix played thane in 17/18

I think you’ll be fine

[warm crag]

idk just keep playing thane until it stops working

i assume you will run out of motivation until you reach a key that is physically untimable by thane

[languid willow]

is Dslice a good sim for us?

[verbal garden]

Is a H Astral Ant better in actual use than sims? Myth boots sim much better in all scenarios but Astral is supposed to be really good? I usually follow the sims but this is the first time I've had a chance at Antennae.

[radiant perch]

if you know how the trinket works you can make your own assumption

there is possibility that you not catch the orb 🙂

[verbal garden]

Not sure I exactly agree with that statement but I get what you're trying to say.

[radiant perch]

but if you have to choose between myth reshi boots and HC antena, you take boots

[verbal garden]

not reshi boots. just mythic boots.

[fading sky]

Astral then

[radiant perch]

try to reclear first

pick after

[coarse nest]

The antenna is good, you just equip it and play the gamba. Sometimes you have to do movement during encounters and you will miss an orb but it’s not something you need to actively worry about tbh

[limber oar]

No

You must be facing away while BS’ing

[plush zephyr]

blindstorming

[coarse nest]

Kek

[limber oar]

Any mechanics that require you to face something or face away from something dont care about BS spin shit

I.e ghosts on mythic nexus king

[remote bobcat]

that is literally not even similar

yunjinfan

ghosts on nexus king dont CC you

they give you a stack of the debuff

the blind in PSF disorients you

thats CC

hes asking if you can ignore the CC cuz BS makes you CC immune

[honest trail]

Hello guys,

stupid question prob but do you think it's worth to prio Execute on cd when under 20% hp on ST? Over RB

[fickle cedar]

i discovered today that DHs cant get blinded on the last boss of priory. which makes sense

[remote bobcat]

Did you ever read the prio list on wowhead?

[honest trail]

I mean I'm about 95% parse average in hero & about 90 in mythic so far

But still wondering ^^

Fair

I don't read Wowhead

I just play & check stuff by myself

[remote bobcat]

you can also just look at the APL

i just check the APL whenever im completely unsure

and worst case

i can run custom apl sims

cause target dummy practice is not reliable

[honest trail]

Don't know what's the APL or how to look at it

😄

Again, I just play

[remote bobcat]

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/thewarwithin/ActionPriorityLists/default/warrior_fury.simc

[honest trail]

Ah that

[remote bobcat]

this is what sims use

[honest trail]

I do sims

[edgy widget]

I know people like referring to it, but the APL really isn't the best learning tool

[honest trail]

Sims doesn't seem to show exec phase so it was a bit annoying

[edgy widget]

it's got a lot of stuff that's there just for a robot that a real player doesn't need to concern themselves with

[honest trail]

I just looked at dmg numbers & wondered

It might be better

Sims just don't tell me that

[remote bobcat]

sims do tell you that

[edgy widget]

I mean by all means, use it if you like to, but there's a reason stuff like WH are written out more plainly and don't include some hyper specifics, and it's not just for the sake of dumbing it down

Fury just isn't split up into a dedicated execute phase like Arms because Fury largely doesn't care about it; rotation is p much the same from start to finish

[honest trail]

Y that's fair

I'll try things

Raiding tonight, so

[edgy widget]

same with cleave/aoe; it's mostly the same rotation (with a few minor exceptions, like TR/OF has higher priority w/ multiple targets)

but yeah, if you have a specific question you can always just ask in here - lots of (not me) helpful people (not me) always willing to answer (not me)

[honest trail]

Hence why I asked

😄

Just a bit boring to get "read guides" or "use addons"

[junior oyster]

XD Figure the guy who writes the guide has already done his part to be helpful lol

[honest trail]

as most answers

[radiant plank]

Straight lie :(

[edgy widget]

people like @modest condor, helpful young lad

[remote bobcat]

RB > Rampage at 115

:(

[radiant plank]

You should ping @modest condor if you ever have a warrior question

[modest condor]

sorry i dont know, maybe @edgy widget does he writes the guides so he's smarter than me

[narrow wadi]

!macro

[remote bobcat]

read #dps-faq

[edgy widget]

that's not really an optimization, majority of testing has been inconclusive (if you prio RB you run out of charges faster and have to Ramp anyway, so it largely works itself out)

[radiant plank]

The spec with 3 buttons ends up with just hitting buttons as msot optimal rotation

Never woulda guessed that

[modest condor]

yeah you dont prio rb any more on aoe than on st, the whole rb > ramp thing that people are spreading is just feelycraft and not based on actual numbers

[edgy widget]

that's fair; I think a lot of it comes down to framing

• For every one intelligent question, we get like 19 people who have never opened the spellbook before; it's hard to know which is which
• instead, framing your question like "hey when the guides say to Execute blah blah blah, do you all do xyz or abc?" will probably get you more specific answers

[narrow wadi]

ty

[junior oyster]

100% this^

[honest trail]

Fair enough, will do

[junior oyster]

Poring over the guide helps with more targeted questions i think

[remote bobcat]

#fury message

thoughts on this?

[olive wraith]

🐮 🧑‍🌾

[remote bobcat]

i love cowfarmer

hes the goat

[edgy widget]

already been discussed elsewhere, answer unchanged

[cobalt relic]

just bricked my pc

[remote bobcat]

all gg

[cobalt relic]

does wago save all my WAs?

the app

[radiant plank]

no

[remote bobcat]

i dont think so

[cobalt relic]

legit fat gg

yikes

[remote bobcat]

it should be local on your drive

[cobalt relic]

need to reconfigure EVERYTHING

[remote bobcat]

tried finding it and couldnt

do you remember where, mayhaps?

[narrow wadi]

Has anyone tried to macro cursed stone idol with thunderous roar since it’s the same CD?

[plush zephyr]

no cause idol is a cast

[modest condor]

both are on the gcd

[unborn sparrow]

guys, any idea what im doing wrong on aoe boss fights? was beating other warriors in ST but doing something wrong in aoe (araz/soul hunters)

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/pLq3zDZd6ravJ4Th/self?fight=34%2C34&type=damage-done&source=12%2C107

[plush zephyr]

you would have to press it twice

[remote bobcat]

idk both warriors have a scuffed opener

Bedge

(it rly doesnt matter that much)

(im just nitpicky)

[unborn sparrow]

i feel like im not clicking raging blow enough?

vs whirlwind?

[remote bobcat]

brother which one are you even

balgrim?

[unborn sparrow]

balgrim

most of my parses are good but im struggling to improve on aoe bosses

[remote bobcat]

Well one thing you need to always keep in mind is that after each intermission the other bosses come back with zero stacks of overwhelmed

so you best have a bladestorm rdy

you also wanna stack overwhelmed on all three as much as possible as early as possible

whats this man..

[honest trail]

Well did less dmg on Sentinel than previous kill somehow xD Will check logs later but Execute dmg felt nice

[earnest canyon]

Should we have had 4 catalyst charges by now?

[remote bobcat]

what the fuck is that

[remote bobcat]

3 baseline and the 4th from getting 2k rating or aotc

[plush zephyr]

WW SPAM

[earnest canyon]

ah ok ty!

[plush zephyr]

is this df?

[honest trail]

This is what you usually do when you can't hit the mob

To try & do some dmg

From max distance

[remote bobcat]

you cna always hit the mob on soul hunters

[honest trail]

Oh sure

Thought it was like some M+ stuff

Can also be

When lacking rage & everything else is on cd

4 is a bit much tho

2 can happen

[remote bobcat]

@unborn sparrow you have severe uptime issues, you dont use up all 4 stacks of whirlwind properly and you generally dont whirlwind before going into bladestorm

[honest trail]

Can be like 2 then just do BT

[remote bobcat]

and ur opener is scuffed too

so like.. yea

lots to improve on

[unborn sparrow]

kk ty

[plush zephyr]

go to lorgs

you can see what others are doing

[undone flower]

Yesterday there was a dude with m+ log who constantly double ww too, big guess is too much button smashing

If it’s not done consciously

[unborn sparrow]

most of my parses in heroic are 90 but im subconsciously overvaluing the whirlwind

[remote bobcat]

it can happen but dude if it happens soooo often in a 5min encounter

whirlwind dmg itself is worthless

[undone flower]

If he is not used to big haste spec

It can happen that often

[unborn sparrow]

with seismic reverb talent i just overthought it

[undone flower]

no it’s not spell queue thing and no it’s not reverb casts on the timeline

[unborn sparrow]

ill work on opener too

[remote bobcat]

seismic reverb only duplicates the very first hit of the 6 for 30%, it's basically worthless

[unborn sparrow]

i was doing the fights as mountain than before

for aoe bosses in raid

[undone flower]

Only soulhunter can be a thane fight in heroic (if you want performance choice)

If the AoE doesn’t survive a bladestorm : don’t think about thane

[remote bobcat]

yea but it still loses to slayer

[undone flower]

Slightly yes + thane is rng, but you can do 95+ parses as thane

[remote bobcat]

ofc you can, but on average slayer just fucks thane up if you play right

shrugeg

[undone flower]

But an average player might have an easier time with thane / I will not continue, it’s not the point

[unborn sparrow]

viable but optimal, i get it

appreciate both the feedbacks

will work on slayer on those bosses

[remote bobcat]

I mean idk i feel like both slayer and thane are equally easy

one spams BT one spams RB

ykwim?

[undone flower]

Yes the point I was making, no fight in heroic are thane fights, just soulhunter you can have a thought

Same in mythic now

[fading flume]

any chads know how bad antenna is for progging the last 2 bosses

mythic sac in my vault and idk if its worth taking over a heroic > m helm

[remote bobcat]

im p sure you can just do a generic sim to answer your question

its not that big of a deal

[fading flume]

thats why i said chads

bc u get answers like that i fear

[static rock]

eh, soulbinders can be kinda good, depends on your group, plus forgeweaver can be good too with the quick thane burst

but yeah, slayer is usually the way to go

[lunar steeple]

fury jst feels so much better with deft

[undone flower]

Thane on soulbinder ? It’s an ST fight with 3 sec adds every 30 sec and 2 big fiesta where you don’t want to bet on rng

[honest trail]

Thane on Soulbinder is for parsing

Pretty much

[undone flower]

It’s the opposite

[honest trail]

But it's not worth it

[undone flower]

Slayer is for parsing

On soulbinder

[unborn sparrow]

@remote bobcat i do appreciate your EU honesty btw. your 99s are the goal

[honest trail]

Slayer is just how you play it anyway

There's no Thane boss anymore I guess

[remote bobcat]

im shit compared to good players dont look at my logs to find examples

[undone flower]

You have too much ST component + the canister adds with damage increase lasting just a bladestorm is perfect for slayer

[remote bobcat]

im not even top100 heroic anymore

let alone mythic

im like top200

sadeg

[honest trail]

Just did a sad 77% on Soulbinder

Tho I was around 8m

Dies too fast

😄

Dwagon too good

[unborn sparrow]

still better than my whirlwind ballerina dookie

danke

[remote bobcat]

I still remember my fleeting nerubar palace enjoyment

the good old heroic grind

this was fun

made a lot of money then

hmmNod

[undone flower]

I never got a 100 unfortunately

[remote bobcat]

we cant all be critcake ykwim

[olive wraith]

am i crazy. or was this dh ass

[undone flower]

You timed ?

[remote bobcat]

wipes ?

[olive wraith]

No like a min over

2 🤦

Wipes

[undone flower]

He trolled the key ?

[olive wraith]

Tank kinda fukd a pull

He instantly died but we all had aggro

Dh died like 4 times though

Let me check

[undone flower]

I don’t really judge others dps if I time or they don’t do mistakes

[olive wraith]

He died 5 times

[undone flower]

A time is a time

[marble ruin]

Ww becomes a permanent buff, we become rage outlaw rogues.

[undone flower]

Yeah that’s why I’m asking

Because I did a 16 with a bad dmg mage, but we timed, he didn’t die etc, I would still pick him again if I had to redo the key

[olive wraith]

Ya fair

[honest trail]

Also gear

[remote bobcat]

-1 button to press

lule

[honest trail]

7m+ seems fine

[olive wraith]

He had 712

Not a gear issue lol

[honest trail]

Not gear number

Can be consumables, stats, etc

[clear hill]

rng

[olive wraith]

This was a 15. If they don’t have that then I’m def never running with them

[fast mural]

tank probabnly didnt pull around his CDs

[honest trail]

I often run keys with no consumables cause am poor if I know it's timed xD

[remote bobcat]

consumes dont do that much of a diffy

[clear hill]

had to scratch his balls at one point maybe

[honest trail]

Ppl can judge my dmg idc

[olive wraith]

I mean I did say he died 5 times

[fast mural]

he said he died 5 times
thats also a dps loss

[honest trail]

yea bigtime

[onyx linden]

[olive wraith]

Pretty sure he got hit by 3 lines (eco)

[honest trail]

so their dmg look decent

[coarse nest]

Yoooo Gz 👑

[remote bobcat]

gg

[plush zephyr]

Gzzz

[clear hill]

neato

[novel hamlet]

does this generally look ok for a HC loom fight?

[onyx linden]

ty guys, finally deadge

[novel hamlet]

gratz!

[honest trail]

Best boss in the raid by far, fight looks real fun

gg

[remote bobcat]

you should not judge performance based on a details breakdown

[honest trail]

Compare similar logs

Based on ilvl/fight time

Uptime

Stats

[iron portal]

Poetic, I will frame this

[novel hamlet]

right okay i was thinking there could be an easy look thats shit kinda thing im new to DPS as a healer its pretty obv when something is wrong

[clear hill]

no shame in that lol😏

[honest trail]

Well I'm not, just saying just judging dmg

Doesn't do much

[remote bobcat]

Thats okay, but you should still look at logs regardless

cast timeline personally helped me a buuuunch

[honest trail]

I like to look at uptime before anything

Then cast/abilities

& avg dmg/abilities

[slow harness]

It feels strange to play with so few keys when you are used to playing with several keys.

[olive wraith]

Like keybinds?

[remote bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284226322585354241/1413178488713642104/GIF_20250904_160623_708.gif

[edgy widget]

Slayer definitely has a lot more to think about, even if I wouldn't call it explicitly difficult

[olive wraith]

You guys run wrecking throw in eco right

[remote bobcat]

slayer banks bladestorm while thane banks blasts for add spawns in raid, in m+ slayer needs to consider a liiiiitle bit more yea ur right

[iron portal]

Slayer- I unga therefore I bunga

[edgy widget]

"banking" Bladestorm is a much bigger consideration since it has such a shot cd, lot of people sit on it in raid a lot more than they need to

you can bank blast in raid, but it's not as important anymore due to the tier set (you can try to bank a tier proc, but that's much more RNG)

[remote bobcat]

you're kinda just saying that people misjudge BS cooldown

[dry talon]

what next to craft after wep and wrists?neck or ring piece ?

[remote bobcat]

...well yea

[edgy widget]

it is easier to misjudge two forms of variable CDR, yes

that should be pretty obvious

[remote bobcat]

I wouldnt call the gameplay itself particularly difficult regardless tho

not more difficult than thane

[iron portal]

Just like Battle Cry in legion with Convergence

[remote bobcat]

but thats just me

[iron portal]

heh

[edgy widget]

you'll notice I didn't call the gameplay particularly difficult either

[remote bobcat]

ye

ik

[edgy widget]

still, holding Bladestorm wasn't what I was referring to anyway, I was talking about things like deciding whether you want to prioritize Execute for more BS CDR for the next pack or to continue RB, juggling Enrage timers (which Thane has a lot less need for, due to prioritizing BT w/ Deft extending)

and while it's true that anything and everything sounds incredibly simple or easy if you dumb your statement down far enough, it still doesn't change my point - Slayer is demonstrably more complicated than Thane, it quite simply has more moving parts... even if it still isn't particularly difficult to play

[remote bobcat]

These moving parts play themselves though. Bladestorm CDR has two different variables, yes, but they do still play themselves and the only decision is looking at the spell and judging whether its back up in time for the next pack or not

these moving parts that make the spec more complicated end up not being very complicated

[edgy widget]

again, anything sounds simple if you dumb it down far enough

like saying

"Mythic raiding is easy if you just listen to your RL"

yeah no joke, but we all know that getting 20 people to all listen and react appropriately at the same time isn't quite as easy in practice as it sounds on paper

[remote bobcat]

i mean I dont think that im dumbing down fury's mechanics by saying it plays itself to a very high degree

[edgy widget]

again, nobody is saying Slayer is particularly hard, so I'm not sure why this is much of a sticking point, but it is a simple fact that it has more going on than Thane does

saying things like "you're kinda just saying that people misjudge BS cooldown" is dumbing it down

[dry sentinel]

according to fury rotation, after bladestorm i am supposed to stack raging blow before using rampage. do i stack as many as i can, even if im fury capped or should i rampage at cap?

[edgy widget]

because yes, on the surface that's very easy
but in reality, being able to tell whether a 90s CD will be off cooldown within 30s if you don't prioritize Execute or whether you need to prioritize Execute in order to get it back up within 20s for a pack that's dying a little bit faster, does take some good judgement and experience

[remote bobcat]

A different person could call it simplifying rather than dumbing it down, it's up to perspective imho

[coarse nest]

Imagine people losing the execute conditions Weakaura 🤣

[undone flower]

The ceiling is higher as slayer than thane, but fury overall ceiling is not high

[edgy widget]

probably because they're synonyms 🙄

"dumbing it down" literally means simplification

[remote bobcat]

dumbing down implies over simplifying, dont you think?

[edgy widget]

that is a matter of perspective, because everyone will have a different litmus for how much simplification is too much simplification

[remote bobcat]

sure im arguing semantics here

[dry sentinel]

bump in case it got missed

[rocky wharf]

zug zug?

[lapis shadow]

Until enrage drops

[remote bobcat]

Rage cap doesnt matter after BS. You wanna bladestorm into as many raging blows as possible while enraged into rampage

[undone flower]

Arguing semantics are sometime necessary to understand what the other party mean

[edgy widget]

yes, you should prioritize RB until you can't anymore, either because you're out of charges or out of Enrage - in practice you usually get 2-3, sometimes 4, very rarely 5

[remote bobcat]

I agree

but only sometimes

arguing semantics can lead to very degenerate arguments

[dry sentinel]

thank you. i just got my 4 set. does that change anything in the rotation?

[undone flower]

It leads to circle talking mostly

[lapis shadow]

BT low prio RB high prio - Use kaching WA to know when to execute

[remote bobcat]

yo i had fun talkin to you lads and im glad i got to hear your perspective archi but i gotta go now, time for a quick taza HM attempt

[edgy widget]

glhf

don't think too hard

[undone flower]

Good luck, I’m free of tazavesh fortunately

[edgy widget]

I did it last week, got excited when I looted a ring
then disappointed when I realized that was the H loot and my actual M reward was another bracer

[lapis shadow]

:kekw

get trolled

[iron portal]

Cant beat me getting Vers crit bracers 3 times in row in vault

[lapis shadow]

Happened to me literally 2day

Looted boss - Got the trinket and was like ooo nice, and then i was like wait... 710?

Was a myth necklace

[undone flower]

I don’t plan to redo it again because the only item I could need is the ticking sac trinket or the ring (which I will most likely craft tomorrow or next week), so it’s not reward=effort enough

[lapis shadow]

tier pieces are always nice

[undone flower]

I have every slot in mythic but the belt and trinkets (and a ring but it is 100% a craft)

[lapis shadow]

God zang

Someone is fed well

[dry sentinel]

is there a good weakaura to show when im enraged?

[dry sentinel]

thank you!!!

[verbal garden]

Tried to farm Antennae and reshi boots again and still no luck.. Was hoping one would drop to make vault choice easier.

[lapis shadow]

Do you use any WA pack

[dry sentinel]

luxthos but i dont see anything when im enraged

[turbid sparrow]

There is a bar in the middle of it

[undone flower]

It’s a bar yes

[lapis shadow]

Its the yellow bar

going right to left

@dry sentinel

[undone flower]

You have your rage and the other is the enrage, and under is the whirlwind stacks in grey

[analog kite]

is Critcake Norwegian?

[dry sentinel]

got it! thank you for the help.

[lapis shadow]

Ping him and ask 😂 also not sure how that is a fury warrior question

[undone flower]

Yes I think he is

[analog kite]

@mossy fox sorry to ping, are you Norwegian?

[lapis shadow]

"I'm from Norway, but live in the UK" from Critcake stream

[undone flower]

I know he is Scandinave but which one

[analog kite]

yeah i want to say its either one, but not sure

[mossy fox]

^

[lapis shadow]

Best fury warrior question, where is this guy from

[radiant plank]

@mossy fox Post glute spread when?

[young swan]

oh wow

[mossy fox]

fy faen hvorfor pinge meg for det her

[lapis shadow]

jag vet inte varför man pingar dig för det

[mossy fox]

ur too young to see this

[radiant plank]

So its on the of already

[lapis shadow]

Do we have a warrior that is like archi that does coaching and shit, just wondering

sorry

not archi

hunter main

Azor*

[edgy widget]

god I hope we don't have any Warriors like Azor

[languid willow]

LOLOL

[lapis shadow]

I want to sub, give them a warrior video of me collapsing 2 seconds into loom and go "how do i play this fight better"

[radiant plank]

At somepoint the warrior from Method did coaching

Maybe still does

[undone flower]

I collapsed 3 time in a row on the first 20 sec of saladbar

[lapis shadow]

^

How does he play this fight better

20 bux

[edgy widget]

if you're collapsing 2 seconds into Loomithar, I would suggest not taunting on the pull

or standing in the tank line

[tepid cedar]

archi coaches for a low price of 999$ an hour

[edgy widget]

outside of those two things, I would think it's kind of impressive if you die that quickly

[lapis shadow]

what a deal

[lapis shadow]

ding ding

[mossy fox]

this is why fury warrior is still dobby tier

we die 2 seconds into loomithar pulls

[lapis shadow]

Afk tunnel visioning the boss

😂

[undone flower]

But we can cross the web line

[jolly parrot]

theres always that one warrior in the guild that makes all warrior look bad

:kekw

[radiant plank]

Crit you could make some bank doin log reviews

[languid willow]

Dw on my guilds first forge kill I died 30 seconds in and sudo 21st manned it until it was dead

[edgy widget]

compared to streaming, it's unlikely lol

[lapis shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/moistcritikal-penguinz0-charlie-misinput-it-was-a-misinput-gif-23090919

how i had to scream at my RL (it was completely my fault)

[edgy widget]

I used to do em, and tbh it's kind of low effort since the majority of issues are the same for everyone

[undone flower]

Some cheat I use : keep the active collector in front of your camera and not behind you

[edgy widget]

but it does get kind of exhausting after awhile

[lapis shadow]

Throw em into wowanalyzer and say it took you 1 and a half hour to analyze it

Mention the kaching WA and its free

[languid willow]

But if I do that I can’t look at my rampaging blow resets

[radiant plank]

Just crank the price or stream doing them

and make the vod sub only

and a post of it on patreon

[undone flower]

Patreon vod yes

[radiant plank]

🎦

[undone flower]

With feet + doggo cams for extra bucks

[mossy fox]

i just wanna play the game so i dont do them

[tepid cedar]

@mossy fox on a 18 psf

after first boss paladin aoe spam

how are u managing your defensives

[mossy fox]

i havent had any issues surviving there idk

[iron portal]

My advice is

Press buttons. Now pay me

[frank dawn]

if you did as much as much damage as crit your leech would carry you

ez advice

[languid willow]

Me either

[undone flower]

And greed as much in those consecrated grounds

[mossy fox]

as long as no smites go through on me it's just reactive health pot, iv, ER whenever I'm low and I see a divine toll about to finish

[iron portal]

Leech is the best stat , do not let anyone tell you otherwise

Critcake might become LeechCake eventually

[undone flower]

SPEED

[queen onyx]

Press buttons. If out of buttons make the healer aware it's his fault

[iron portal]

You never run out of buttons as fury

[undone flower]

Frog leggo will return one day

[iron portal]

Therefore, if you have leech, you always heal

[runic acorn]

shit was so OP in BGs

[iron portal]

Barbarian

[undone flower]

Im a 🐸

[iron portal]

They took my barbarian

[queen onyx]

Reflect+ impending+Dstance saves a lot indeed

[iron portal]

Leaper+Barbarian in pvp was peak

6 Jumps in WSG was somehting else

[edgy widget]

most people who wanna pay for it aren't gonna wanna live stream it in froint of an audience lol

[undone flower]

And if we run out of CDs : it means the other 2 dps didn’t survive 100%

[dapper goblet]

@vague reef

[lapis shadow]

You can do sub only-streams

[edgy widget]

the point still stands

[iron portal]

Oh no, the Forbidden one was summoned

[lapis shadow]

Fair enough

[runic acorn]

idk, some people are into that kind of public shaming lmao

[edgy widget]

especially when talking about an audience the size of crits, even sub only is still a lot of extra eyes on you

that's a lot of anxiety for some people lol

[lapis shadow]

I guess disclaimers must be made on the site you are paying

Disclaimer:

• Vod may be seen by others

[edgy widget]

na shouldn't need any for twitch, just not that many people are keen on their mistakes being broadcast and judged in front of others

[lapis shadow]

etc etc

[edgy widget]

also big difference between a log review and actual coaching

[unreal onyx]

you love to see it

[edgy widget]

a log review on stream sure, whatever
actual coaching is communicative though, you're having a conversation with the person

[iron portal]

Ah

Blast from the past

[olive wraith]

Rip

[cobalt relic]

any good vids on removing bloatware etc all that on win11

freshly installed

maximizing fps etc

[iron portal]

@frank dawn

[frank dawn]

what is this ancient lore being dug up

[iron portal]

Very ancient

[gaunt timber]

what the ideal mastery to be at?

[unreal onyx]

whatever robot tells you

[young swan]

holy fuck thats old

[gaunt timber]

thats what i assumed

[young swan]

miss fallu

[runic acorn]

like 50%

[winter shoal]

crit did some M+ vod review last season on stream didn't he?

[olive wraith]

There’s no % we aim for

[edgy widget]

yeah I think so, but the original topic was actual coaching, not just log review

[iron portal]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/fury-warrior-review-battle-for-azeroth-class-community-opinions-285780

Just going through some old lore

[white pawn]

Can someone explain Vers stat weight for this patch?

[iron portal]

I cant imagine playing that version of fury anymore

And by that version I mean cleaving SB , having 2 charges of ww only and deciding between Stun and Double time

[dapper goblet]

EP fury last time fury was fun

[iron portal]

EP OUT

@modest condor

[radiant plank]

Necro banner fury last time fury was fun

[dapper goblet]

shut up goober

[edgy widget]

high stat inflation means traditionally weak stats (like vers) start getting good
vers also benefits outside sources of damage (trinkets), which gives it a slight edge when using stuff like Screams

[mossy fox]

cloak also

but vers has been pretty good for us for a while now anyway

[white pawn]

Theres no DR on mastery though right? Why cant I just stack mastery after getting haste cap

[winter shoal]

P sure there's a DR on everything at some point but also "haste cap" isn't a thing

Sim top gear on raidbots and use what it tells you 👍

I think there's a guide on wowhead for how to use simulationcraft and raidbots

[undone flower]

I think the mastery DR starts at 21k

Haste starts at 20k if I’m correct

And vers is vers

[oak peak]

Yeah thats roughly where mine puts vers above mastery. Sitting at 20k mastery now, and its my #1 stat needed again

[edgy widget]

all stats have multiple points of diminshing returns - in practice you don't really need to think about it though cause the robot already accounts for it

[undone flower]

Yeah it is a nerd thing to know

[white pawn]

will play around with sims later, thanks for the feedback

[undone flower]

Robot god does the math

[winter shoal]

@clever belfry get him

[mossy fox]

stat questions tire me

[winter shoal]

mfw "it's not a mathematical model it's an empirical model"

[mossy fox]

just robot top gear and it's done

[undone flower]

Since an item have 3 stats, you can’t do it easily on your own

[winter shoal]

But crit what about fury vs arms ??? Which one stronger ??? In raid or M+ ???

[analog kite]

i want to know how Critcake got his name

[runic acorn]

I get it, a lot of people like actually making decisions and thinking about it rather than just doing what simcraft says

[white pawn]

how much hit % do I need

[winter shoal]

HOLY

0%, hit hasn't been a stat since like

WoD?

[white pawn]

🤣

[oak peak]

Just go ArP and youll be good

[undone flower]

When warrior house in midnight ?

[clever belfry]

meow?

[modern ingot]

6% hit but make sure you get edgemasters gauntlets.

[oak peak]

And you wanna go for 100% armor pen

[drifting token]

Not before getting your sword specialization maxed

[modern ingot]

Thats with deathbringers will trinker

Trinket

[oak peak]

Might need to equip some leather/mail to hit 100% though

[undone flower]

Archon and murlok would be empirical

[modern ingot]

Just take leather from druids, they suck anyway

[winter shoal]

idk I said raidbots was a mathematical model once and anda called me slurs in response

I'm not math knower so the distinction is meaningless to me

[undone flower]

Im not a pro either, I just vaguely know empirical is you gather amount of practical evidences to draw a correlation

The graphs with all the dots and then they draw a line

[upbeat blade]

maybe a distinction between using a model and being a model? That seems like a weird thing to get up in arms about

[winter shoal]

I don't think he really cared

Just a bit of banter

[undone flower]

Niche rants