fury

[fast saffron]

Is furry ass without the 4 set?

[stark lantern]

you got this

[remote bobcat]

im p sure we ran frenzied thane as well this season

[fast saffron]

Until I get it at least

[olive wraith]

Thane was running powerful

[remote bobcat]

The wowhead guide was, but the best fury m+ players werent

KEKW

eh i checked

[plush zephyr]

Will have a full four next week

[remote bobcat]

some did some didnt

[charred flint]

yuge ara kara

[remote bobcat]

i guess it didnt matter rly

[stark lantern]

so that 15% haste "gain" is why it feels a bit more fast paced?

[olive wraith]

Ya slayer reaches some pretty high haste

Sims also tell slayer to stack haste more than it does thane

[plush zephyr]

I mean. Not really but everyone else has 4p pretty much at this point. Just run slayer regardless.

[chrome summit]

Thats nice. I only manage get like 7kk idk what i do wrong :x

[stark lantern]

yeah... I was simming last night and decided to copy and paste the M+ Slayer fury build and sim that alongside it and it said it was an 800k dps increase lol

[charred flint]

didnt rb hard enough

[olive wraith]

2p slayer was doing pretty well at the start of the season

[charred flint]

also i had monk buf

and i have 723 weap

[chrome summit]

I miss sometimes ww buff cause stacks disappear so fast xD i try slow down

Spam rb too mucho haha

[charred flint]

the biggest dps increase you can have is make sure to whirlwind every 4th gcd

[opal monolith]

if reck/avatar are up or either one of em and bladestorm isnt

what do u do

[olive wraith]

And make sure you have bs for every fresh pull

[opal monolith]

as slayer in m plus

[olive wraith]

Send it

[tepid cedar]

@thick fossil you try it? >.<

[opal monolith]

always?

as BS will come up super fast anyways ig?

because of massive cdr

[charred flint]

u sentd

send

[chrome summit]

How do u start pull. Make sure u enrage before bs and have ww stacks ready before?

[charred flint]

rck ava charge

whirlwind

rampage

bladestorm

spam rb

[chrome summit]

Then 3rb left. Ww. Ramp 3 rb over and over

[charred flint]

u can kaching sometimes you just gotta feel it by pack size

[olive wraith]

There’s a bit of vibing you have to do as slayer now

[chrome summit]

And almost never vloodthirst?

[olive wraith]

Bt is last resort filler in aoe

Or if you made a mistake and didn’t have bs up for fresh pull

[chrome summit]

Kk. I mean my dps is ok but 10kk would be better xD haha

[charred flint]

BT is alright as not a filler if you dont have bs

[fickle cedar]

With odyn's build I do:
Reck -> Charge while using WW -> Ava -> Roar -> Rampage -> BS -> RB spam -> Odyn to refresh WW charges and enrage -> RB spam

[olive wraith]

Keys also will vastly change between groups

The way the tank pull. If you have something in the group that bursts low health mobs before you can get solid reaps in

[gusty cloak]

after BS if you hear chaching, would you exe? or hit RB RB RAMP? then exe?

[chrome summit]

Ppl usually do odyn build? Not sure my build is 100% correct. I copied from icy veins

[charred flint]

i do at 3 stacks only on big packs

but im not sure im right

[olive wraith]

People are moving away from odyns it seems

[charred flint]

i just do it

[heavy dock]

this good enough for a +10 priory weekly xd

[pulsar quest]

I do odyns on only like 2 keys

Floodgate/priory

And even then on priory it’s a toss up based on comp

My group usually runs outlaw/feral so I’ll not run OF during that for more prio

[remote bobcat]

why not gambit?

cuz bosses are grp killers there?

[pulsar quest]

Yeah bosses matter most there

[charred flint]

Gambit only really has a lot of mobs on first section

[pulsar quest]

Murloc area is just pad

Rest of the key is all prio targets

[cobalt relic]

fk this key

man

[charred flint]

Missing the big 15 ones

damn

its gon take a while

halls fg and priory

[cobalt relic]

whats the prob with that

[charred flint]

I dont think anyone uses freshmeat

[remote bobcat]

just curious if u ever actually get value from it

[cobalt relic]

some ppl do

including critcake

but I dont rlly fw it

[blazing marsh]

What's the play on dungeons with huge pulls? Are we just gunna get outclassed in AoE on the big pulls and make up for it on prio damage and bosses? Specifically on like first pull of Priory or Floodgate when we're getting 15+ mobs and the uncapped classes are hitting 30mil+

[remote bobcat]

fresh meat is solid cuz you dont lose anything big for it and it's good to get a quick enrage into bladestorm

[cobalt relic]

better alternatives?

[half valve]

Except biggest warrior streamer who recommend it in guide

[glad coyote]

taker floodgate for example, on a 15 im able to keep up with boomkin and frost DK and probably over take them in the long run due to BS and reck coming up quicker

[half valve]

That said. Must be a debate on margins

[glad coyote]

they may burst more but by the time every thing dies we do more

[olive wraith]

Classes will burst the first pack. And then as the dungeon goes on our flat damage profile will consistently do big damage while they kinda peak and valley

[gusty cloak]

wowhead talents dont take fresh meat

[olive wraith]

Fresh meat is kinda just qol

[charred flint]

ive hitten some 22-28M pulls

[remote bobcat]

well..fresh meat is an alternative

[charred flint]

not so far behind

[olive wraith]

That’s our pivot talent rn

[charred flint]

and we still do at least 10M+ for the rest of the dg

[cobalt relic]

longer enraged regen

seems so nice

tho

[remote bobcat]

does it tho ?

[cobalt relic]

yh

[remote bobcat]

seems fake to me

[olive wraith]

It’s nice for pugs

[ember ridge]

Do you guys spam execute or wait for the SD weakaura ? What does feel the more successful ?

[cobalt relic]

if u time it perfectly

in pugs

especiall;y

[charred flint]

sd wa

[cobalt relic]

so u get 2 aoe attacks f.ex

[gusty cloak]

what do you take out for fresh meat?

[cobalt relic]

dealt with

[cobalt relic]

invigorating fury

[remote bobcat]

clicking SD as soon as u get it is a 1% loss to optimization

[ember ridge]

Even in like a boss with adds ? Like to proc more bladestorm like on forgeweaver MM or something

[olive wraith]

Imp bt

[remote bobcat]

Bladestorm cd is not dependant on SD, it depends on marked for execution

[gusty cloak]

imp bt yea, this build doesnt have invigorating fury

[limber oar]

Who tf recommended fresh meat

[olive wraith]

Imp bt is what is used to get inv fury

[ember ridge]

Yes but I mean to proc bladestorm faster

[olive wraith]

It’s a pretty common alt

[ember ridge]

Through execute

[limber oar]

Yikes

[olive wraith]

You need mfe stacks first for cool down reduction

[charred flint]

Everything is a 1% or 0.5% dps loss

doesnt mean you shouldnt do it

the RB spam after bladeshtorm is 0.5%

[cobalt relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413511346548379739/GIF_20250904_160623_708.gif

floods 17 left for resi

gg

[olive wraith]

Why are people hating on fresh meat and invigorating fury

🤣

[remote bobcat]

wdym to proc bladestorm faster

do u mean imminent demise?

[lean nacelle]

fresh meat is the best, old meat is bad

[coarse nest]

IF is neat you’re just giga safe for 10 seconds lol

[ember ridge]

Yeah trying to squeeze in bladestorm timers as fast as possible instead of waiting the WA to proc

Maybe it's useless but I was wondering

[remote bobcat]

i have no idea what you are on about

what the hell does that mean

squeeze in bladestorm timers

elaborate please

😭

[olive wraith]

You have a bladestorm for every ad phase on forgeweaver anyways

[remote bobcat]

Yea

[ember ridge]

When you use your exec procs you reduce your bladestorm timer am I tripping

[remote bobcat]

no

marked for execution reduces the cooldown

[olive wraith]

When you execute a target with mfe it reduces cooldown

[ember ridge]

Yes but then

If you wait for WA it makes you wait a bit longer sometimes doesn't it

[olive wraith]

What exactly are you trying to do

[remote bobcat]

my guy we have bladestorm every add phase anyway unless u have like sub 10k haste maybe

[ember ridge]

I was just wondering if spamming the procs on CD insteas of waiting for the WA was worth it in an AOE setup

To get bladestorms faster

[remote bobcat]

zero difference.

[olive wraith]

For m+? For a raid fight

[ember ridge]

But yeah I understand it's not worth it

[remote bobcat]

other than just wasting raging blows

[ember ridge]

Here it was forgeweaver but also got curious for other setup

[remote bobcat]

Nejima

[olive wraith]

Forgeweaver you won’t ever get 2 bs while ads are up

[remote bobcat]

if you have 2x SD procs and 2x MFE on target then that's 4 total MFE stacks you can consume

[olive wraith]

But you will have bs for every ad phase

[remote bobcat]

whether u click exe on cooldown or u dont

no difference

its 4 MFE stacks

[ember ridge]

Yeah that's true

[remote bobcat]

the difference is that the weakaura tells you to click execute to keep ashen juggernaut up

clicking SD immediately removes that ability to keep AJ up

[ember ridge]

You right thanks for clarification

[olive wraith]

And in m+ scenario reaps do most of our aoe. So rb is big

[ember ridge]

Yeah the reap procs are going hard

[olive wraith]

Only need to “spam” exe when you’re rushing to get bs ready for next pull

[gusty cloak]

that part

[remote bobcat]

Ok

[olive wraith]

Omg Df s3 macro

[remote bobcat]

RB deserves the reap icon more than the RB icon

shrugeg

[olive wraith]

Where’s your reshi

[olive wraith]

No boots?

[remote bobcat]

shrugeg

[olive wraith]

Huh

Weird

My reshi is usually above bt/slayer strike

[umbral gull]

guys i switch ( temporary ) from a full fury spamming to fire mage, rate my chance to suceed with it

[olive wraith]

0

[remote bobcat]

there goes all respect anyone's ever had for you down the gutter

📉

[finite salmon]

My sim tells me to use all haste/mastery gems and not a diamond. Is this normal?

[olive wraith]

Fire is worse mage spec atm I think

Something is wrong with your sim I think

[remote bobcat]

this is mythic raid

[olive wraith]

Frost is much better in keys no?

[umbral gull]

i like challenge

[umbral gull]

lmao

[solid lava]

Guys i got a question regarding fury, where do i find the soft caps for secondary stats?

[olive wraith]

They don’t exist

Just sim yourself

[remote bobcat]

we dont do that around here. we arent in 2008 anymore. raidbots.com to sim your gear.

[thick fossil]

Not yet, still at work. Couple more hours and I'll be home. I'll help some guildies with weekly keys. Test it there. From what I did on the training dummies, it is an improvement.... but the cost is.... well. Yeah

[olive wraith]

TIL. I still think fire is mid

[remote bobcat]

Fire is not bad

[olive wraith]

Arcane or bust

[remote bobcat]

but mage players are all idiots

if not meta = worst spec

[olive wraith]

Oh I didn’t think they were like the worst. Aug exists

[thick fossil]

They do be pretty harsh when they aren't the poster children.

They suffer from main character syndrome.

[remote bobcat]

mages and retribution paladins

the worst of the worst

Ok

[olive wraith]

Boomie seems down bad rn too

[remote bobcat]

i pray for this every night

[thick fossil]

If Emp hammer wasn't so stupid brain dead I might have more respect for em.

[remote bobcat]

?

?

they are literally ranged

[thick fossil]

Yeah

That to, and how they cry about needing more mobility.

[remote bobcat]

dont forget them crying that their kick is melee

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/u-wot-m8-gif-20998179

https://tenor.com/view/um-wot-um-wot-confused-markiplier-gif-16374086

[olive wraith]

I’ve got a brain dead question

Can we intervene to dead bodies

[thick fossil]

No

[olive wraith]

Rip

Blizz pls change

[thick fossil]

You should of intervened before they died. Lol

[olive wraith]

Nah I was thinking m+ cable usage

[thick fossil]

Aaah

[olive wraith]

I lose track of bodies half the time

Pinging their frame feels like bm 🤣

[charred flint]

alright

HoA down

missing FG and priory now

[olive wraith]

Pog

For 15s was it?

[charred flint]

ye

https://raider.io/characters/us/illidan/Megasorde

closing in in the top 200 na

fury that is

[olive wraith]

My first 15was psf lol

I’m top fury on my realm

[charred flint]

the good old strat of picking a dead realm

but should be shit for crafting and stuff right

[olive wraith]

Nah it’s an rp one lmao

Active but completely zero sweat

[warm crag]

we cannot be srs using na rankings in 2025

[charred flint]

i mean

[olive wraith]

Let us dream spongie

[charred flint]

I dont play with EU

[wintry bloom]

Obviously simming would be required. But generally speaking, if I only have access to the disc belt currently, and no access to the current helmet from the raid. I could just slam on a head for 4p + disc belt and that would in theory also just be good until I can facilitate other replacements, correct?

[charred flint]

why would i compare meself with them

xd

[coarse nest]

Shooting for NA 69 this tier

[olive wraith]

Helm is the “off piece” but yes

Just take what you loot and make do with it

[wintry bloom]

yurr, Im still new so Im trying to understand the simming process. I'll grasp it eventually just like making sure what I would assume is a correct path to take

[plush zephyr]

Liquid = NA
NA = best

[charred flint]

can i craft my wrist with slots or i gotta failt vault one week to slot it?

[plush zephyr]

Confirmed

[olive wraith]

Socket? Need the vault tokens for that

[thick fossil]

I'm happy to be in the top 500 world.

Top 100 NA. Top 10 server. I happy.

[half valve]

yea

[modest hollow]

Is Cursed stone idol better than So Leah`s ?

[dense elbow]

M+? Not really, only if you got a pull pattern that makes it so

[digital mauve]

what's the thing to do to adjust delay? Sometimes I feel like my char hits so fucking fast in AOE that I lose some of my WW stacks and read somewhere that it can be adjusted

[wary shard]

can some1 join channel and help me with my warrior . I need some tips cuz dont get a thing ??

[dense elbow]

Google spell que, set it to your native internet MS delay and then give it a +100 for safety and human reasons

[olive wraith]

Post a log

Is this raid or m+ issues?

[clever belfry]

no

[compact siren]

thanks for sorting that

[clever belfry]

No problem, Gronkstronk57

[solemn plover]

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-smoking-cigarette-gif-7005519433221201453

[digital mauve]

ty will try

[sullen dove]

dis bird looks fukt up

[clever belfry]

:smoke

grr

i will leave this here

🚬 🚬 🚬 🚬

[oblique trail]

[clever belfry]

bniziaei

[oblique trail]

@@andor

[clever belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/fallacy-gif-18656521

[dense elbow]

Please focus on something important: OF needs a buff asap

[remote bobcat]

wait until you hear about the fact that they are part eu raiders part na raiders

[dense elbow]

(the best parts)

[devout totem]

their best player is NA so it doesn't matter 👍

[dense elbow]

NAh

EU is better, how do you know that to be true? Cause they did take em over NA crew

Sound logic is sound

[sullen dove]

[devout totem]

Boy oh boy where do I even begin. imexile… honey, my pookie bear. I have loved you ever since I first laid eyes on you. The way you drive into the arena and strike fear into the bosses eyes. Your silky smooth killing spree around the target, and that gorgeous secret technique. I would do anything for you. I wish it were possible to freeze time so I would never have to watch you retire. You had a rough leveling, but you never gave up hope. You are even amazing off the rwf, you're a great rogue and raider, sometimes I even call you Father.

[umbral gull]

1M9 overall FF i delete this shit ( 2P + 690 ilvl )

[quick dock]

The scaling with gear is actually insane this xpac and we’ve always been pretty gear dependent

[dense elbow]

Warrior... Scales.. with.. gear?

[charred flint]

oh not

ohnoes

[winter shoal]

BANNED

[charred flint]

not again

ahahaha

[dense elbow]

WARRIOR SCALES WITH GEAR!!!

[devout totem]

u mean an evoker?

[warm crag]

we sure scaled with that one unannounced hotfix

[modest condor]

it was a hotfix to our tierset

which is gear

checkmate atheists

[dense elbow]

[quick dock]

Did I say bad words

[charred flint]

[modest condor]

yes, you brought up a 15 year old mechanic

or should i say, a mechanic that stopped existing 15 years ago

[quick dock]

Just trying to get them to not feel bad for having low numbers

[fast mural]

the mechanic of gear ?

[coarse nest]

Did you guys know human scales with gear?

[modest condor]

the mechanic is warriors scaling well with gear

[fast mural]

well more strenght is more dmg

[modest condor]

if anything we scale terrible with gear, but guess what, how well a spec scales with gear is completely irrelevant

[charred flint]

strenght isnt even good for us anymore

is it?

[modest condor]

it isnt

[fast mural]

warrior actually scales worse with tuning than mages

[charred flint]

i mean its better than agi lol

[fast mural]

so we are kinda screwed

[coarse nest]

Secondaries are better in a lot of cases

[quick dock]

You guys are real weird sometimes

[modest condor]

so what you're saying is we should wear int

[charred flint]

after wep drops my avg % for upgrade is like 0.5 per 723 gear

[plush zephyr]

P sure it’s like 90% na players

[modest condor]

when a myth gets repeated so often it turns into a meme

[charred flint]

dunno what other specs look like

[brittle tendon]

do you actually press bloodthirst at all with the 4p set? or just raging blow

[charred flint]

but that doesnt seem good

[native pike]

Can you bladestorm out of 2nd boss aldani spears?

[quick dock]

So a 690 warrior does as well as a 715 got it

[charred flint]

tyou do sometimes on aoe if you dont have bladestorm to get the stacks up

[plush zephyr]

10% being piloted by hopeful

[charred flint]

eksde

[modest condor]

if that's your takeaway from it sure

[fast mural]

that might be cause stats are realy inflated late into an expac

[coarse nest]

Item level rising makes you more powerful because you have a higher total amount of stat distribution. It isn’t “scaling”

[umbral gull]

i'm gonna play fury dagger with the 10% more dmg if 1 hand weapons i'll tell u if it's good or no

[modest condor]

dagger smf gang

[charred flint]

where in simcraft i find apm

thinking bout creating an alt

need to know what goes fast

[thick fossil]

No. Not again.

Biggest troll in Warrior official forums, I swear.

[charred flint]

god damn you actually drool on your keyboard playing evoker

[digital mauve]

I chanegd the spellqueue but there's no indication abotu the change.. how do I know if it's effective?

[thick fossil]

Use the command to show your current spell que

It should be whatever you set it to.

[gilded pawn]

You know it’s good when you feel good

It’s all vibes

[thick fossil]

When it feels like you're playing in molasses, you know it's wrong.

[digital mauve]

my ping is 28 ms

I think 400 ms is too much

[thick fossil]

Yeah, that's high.

[digital mauve]

I've set it to 230 ms

[thick fossil]

I think the general rule is average ping + 100

[digital mauve]

but I wanna see it written

[pulsar quest]

i would do this outside dornogal too btw

ur just gonna have input lag in dornogal always

[digital mauve]

to be sure it's okey cuz I feel it only during mythic + not really with dummies

I'm at the dragons portal

there's dummies here too

[thick fossil]

Dornogal dummies are where I find the worst lag.

[pulsar quest]

Also, bear in mind, if you join somebodies key thats in a phase from a different region (Azralon, Barthilas, etc), your ping can change too

[coarse pond]

Does fury have actual funnel? Like is it doing more ST if theres stuff to cleave?

[pulsar quest]

Yes

[digital mauve]

yeah I know but since it's 18 ms when I mseasure it with a website and 28 ms in game, I've chosen 230 ms

[pulsar quest]

You get more reap procs

[coarse pond]

ahh thats good

[chrome summit]

Why do you change this?

[digital mauve]

because during some pulls in AOE, since Slayer is very fast pace, sometimes I feel like I LOSE a WW stack before the animation of the character is hitting a spell

so a lot of time I miss my WW cleave and just Rampage or RB without it

[coarse pond]

ya i see the occasional ww stack disapear, i think rampage has a delay before it takes a stack

[digital mauve]

I suspect the spell queue windows being too high with 400ms by default since my ping is low (18-28ms)

now it's at 230

[chrome summit]

Yes i have same this is why i ask. Figured it was this. Does it help?

[digital mauve]

I gotta do a couple of m+ to be sure

Was 400 ms now it's 230 nearly half

[silver linden]

Did you all notice that much of an increase from the Renown 6 enchant buff?

[analog kite]

why are we still spicy warriors

or zesty

[thick fossil]

?

[analog kite]

the discord icon

[thick fossil]

Oh, the rainbow thing. Meh, doubt anyone has bothered to look at it.

[analog kite]

its like theyre trying to avoid backlash lol

idk

[thick fossil]

Backlash from what?

[languid willow]

do we have any talents that give us MS?

[winter shoal]

fast footwork

SMF :^)

[languid willow]

oh i mean

mortal strike wonds

wounds

ig

something like that

[winter shoal]

Not as fury afaik

Maybe a pvp talent but pvp is for nerds

[languid willow]

yea

found it

its slaughterhouse

need to make that a pve talent node

was trying to justify my spot to a dude posting a17 hoa by saying I had MW

but alas i'm a liar

[gilded pawn]

Can you even rush down the boss

Even with metal

Mortal

[bitter palm]

shouldn't have to justify playing fury but m+ people arent real

[languid willow]

thye aren't real

if I'm not red

I'm dead

Ig he was saying in two dmg windows with mortal they can kill the mini

[waxen yarrow]

gamers I need help. I'm simming So'leah's secret technique and it says it's a big dps increase for multitarget but in the sims it won't tell me what stat it's using for it's on use effect. is there anyway for me to check or am I missing something

[winter shoal]

Bottom of raidbots

[languid willow]

idk it seems the higher IO i get the more ppl nitpick the biggest bullshit

[winter shoal]

Default is haste I think

[waxen yarrow]

ahhhhh you're so beautiful

tytyty

[languid willow]

"we need this very niche skill for this one singluar mob in the whole dungeon, otherwise we wont time"

[analog kite]

like if they removed it, since theyve had it up for so long

[cobalt relic]

life pain

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1073246901606039654/1139748703297613956/Media_221119_135304.gif

[worn owl]

my rating is 1500 and item lvl is 697 and im not even getting into 5's

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[worn owl]

i know 1500 is still kinda low but like cmon

[sullen dove]

think Ilvl bit worse than the score…

but yea idk wouldn’t expect 5s to be that tuff

[gilded pawn]

Host your own key

That point

[heavy sparrow]

I never trust score until someone has at least 3k

2k is honestly irrelevant, i met plenty of people who are complete trash at that level

Below that it's either the ultra casuals, or alts, which many times perform much better than these 2k mains

[cobalt relic]

even at 3k they are garbage

so dw

[uneven path]

3k is nothing

Got mage with 3.2k did tank dmg

[steel shard]

you need AT LEAST have 3.5k score to get into my weekly +10 buddy

[uneven path]

Fucked my 15 hoa thx god it was rezi

[undone flower]

I had to repush my resi 15 too

[drifting token]

had a mage in my 10 last night who wasn't standing in beam for last boss on HoA, we explained it after the wipe he said ok got it, and he STILL just stood still

[steel shard]

huh

[undone flower]

2k7 rio dude I took bc raid prog destroyed us

[steel shard]

was the tank not taking 2 beams or

[drifting token]

No

[steel shard]

would not blame the mage then

bad tank

[drifting token]

idc if you're still too thick to do exactly whats described and say ok and then ignore, you'r sitll being blamed

sorry

[steel shard]

idk i expect 0 from puggos

but tank soaking not standin under the boss taking 2 beams

is also bad

[thick fossil]

Was gonna say this as well. Resil keys really wasn't as good an idea as people think. Title is almost completely non-existent without having a set group or playing a meta class.

I'll prolly cap out at 3400, maybe if I bother I'll push to 3500. I just don't see a point anymore.
I can bust my ass all day only to have some clown get turbo boosted to title by Bond and his crew.

[fading sky]

3300++ id say u start gettin a better player in gen

Again its pug so u can get shit

[thick fossil]

I'm already over 3300.

[fading sky]

Yeye

[thick fossil]

Hell I'm almost resil 16s.

[fading sky]

But u do need loads of time y

[knotty sonnet]

How much haste is too much haste ?

What's a good range to be in ?

I'm currently at 32.69% haste base

[fading sky]

Ask mrrobot

[young swan]

dont use this site btw

[knotty sonnet]

I try using raidbots

[winter shoal]

You should have as much haste as raidbots tells you to have

[knotty sonnet]

But how do i sim stats ?

[fading sky]

Wdym ask the sim?

U dont

U sim top gear every time

[winter shoal]

You don't really, you sim top gear and it tells you what the best gear for you to equip is (regardless of what its stats are)

[fading sky]

What ever the robot wants u take

[young swan]

there is a website called ask mr robot

its very bad

[knotty sonnet]

okay then

[winter shoal]

is that site even still a thing?

I remember using it in like

2011

[young swan]

it is indeed

[fading sky]

Well obviously use the 1 site every1 use to sim their gear😅

[coarse nest]

I used askmrrobot in cata

[young swan]

it might be obvious to you but this guy doesnt even know what simming is

[remote bobcat]

i love progging this boss with my guild being an average 10 years older than me

[fading sky]

True whats the name again, i have it hard linked

Shouldda just send those

[young swan]

raidbots :3

[fading sky]

True

Still a bot

And i ask him shit

[brazen beacon]

Im just pickin up fury as an alt. Would anyone whos played for a bit mind going over a key or something with me later tonight ?

[winter shoal]

It's probably better for you to give it a try yourself and read through the guides and come here with specific questions

You're more likely to get answers/advice that are actually useful to the questions you have, and the process of generating specific questions will help you learn on its own

[gusty cloak]

playing fury with slayer im enjoying it more and more and more now

thane was fun but this is way funner

[knotty sonnet]

Slayer being viable in m+ now is the only reason im back to warrior

Mountain Thane should've never been a hero talent for fury it doesn't fit the playstyle

Arms should've had it instead

[flat river]

we're S-tier

gg

we getting nerfed

[frank dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-tears-gif-25605273

[knotty sonnet]

C tier next patch

[waxen vale]

its over now 🙁

[gusty cloak]

whers that tierlist from

[chilly plume]

its been lit guys

[flat river]

archon

[worn owl]

what makes frost mage so low?

[knotty sonnet]

looks like archon

Archon.gg

[frank dawn]

arcane mage exists

[fickle cedar]

both fire and frost do shit damage

[frank dawn]

so at high keys most everyone is playing arcane

[worn owl]

fair. i cant play arcane for the life of me

[waxen vale]

I just hope if a nerf comes its a little slap to reap damage. if they revert the tier change i’m done with this class

[fickle cedar]

chilling with arms

[frank dawn]

there's literally zero reason to revert it

[steel shard]

if fury gets nerfed and not BM

x fucking d

yaargi doing what

15m overall

[worn owl]

i thought ret pally was an S tier this season

dang

[waxen vale]

for like 5 minutes

[gusty cloak]

idk how bm not higher on that list

[frank dawn]

archon takes a while to catch up

BM is also kinda weird from what I understand it kind of only really cranks/works at high key levels which are a small sample size

[fickle cedar]

bm is pretty high rn, maybe it will move even higher by the end of the week since people are still catching up to it

[frank dawn]

I started playing my Frost DK a bit this week, I still think fury is more fun but you can't deny how nice brez and deathgrip are + breath is large boom

[worn owl]

all these ratings go off of cleave right?

or big group pulls?

[fickle cedar]

havent touched fdk yet, is it fun ? been playing havoc its a blast imo

[gusty cloak]

friends say its dumb ez to pump fdk

[frank dawn]

It's strong, I'm not entirely convinced if I think it's fun if it wasn't OP lol

and yes it's very simple

[brazen beacon]

:c

[frank dawn]

death grip is a super cool tool to have imo, and that's fun

[brazen beacon]

Im a ret pally main, i cant read…

[fickle cedar]

mythic stats is overall damage (down time included), archon is m+ rating based

[sour frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1355255285534429285/ret1.gif

[sour frigate]

Its dog shit

[fickle cedar]

what is

[sour frigate]

The aggregation pages

[fickle cedar]

oh yeah im just explaining archon, i prefer mythic stats, its just logs

[winter shoal]

I mean I'm just keeping it a buck, the number of people who are:

1. knowledgeable enough to provide useful advice on a theoretically infinite space of things that could be done properly/improperly
2. have the time free to review your gameplay in its entirety in order to identify what advice is applicable to you specifically
3. willing to take the time to do that

is very low. Conversely, the number of people who have the knowledge, time, and willingness to answer specific questions is much much larger. Also like I said, the process of identifying what specific questions you have will help you learn in general

[brazen beacon]

Yea i understand. I appreciate it

[warm crag]

@clever belfry is free right now and willing to do it

[clever belfry]

hmm

120e an hour

[warm crag]

for free

[winter shoal]

Anda is washed don't listen to him

[clever belfry]

this is correct

[winter shoal]

He'll just tell you how he was in MDI global finals 10 years ago as if that's relevant in 2025

[clever belfry]

i am washed, old, boosted, trash

this is why i always say i was good then

last time i played i could still parse wowi

cause thats relevant to fucking anything

cluedo

[solar zephyr]

Lets go we‘re going back to Trash tier next patch 🎊

[quiet breach]

rogues "raid buff" is that they put poison on target that buffs everyone else somehow right?

or makes everyone else hit it harder or smt

[warm crag]

enemy hits less hard

[quiet breach]

ah, does it apply to all mobs in a pack in m+?

[knotty sonnet]

the mobs that they put the poison on

[rocky locust]

Where does the extra point for Unbridled Ferocity come from?

[winter shoal]

CT only has 1 point

1/2

[rocky locust]

Even though it says 100% for CT?

[winter shoal]

100% have CT specced

Just not necessarily 2/2 CT

[rocky locust]

So 82% have UF specced which means that 82% have 1/2 CT?

[winter shoal]

Probably

You'd have to go to the individual logs and look at their summary pages

[limber oar]

About 82% chance on you being right

[rocky locust]

Maybe I'll sim it and see what happens.

[winter shoal]

This is generally a good idea

[quiet breach]

what other specs besides arms have to completely cripple their ST to have real aoe/cleave?

[rocky locust]

Looks like it doesn't matter much, but no UF appears to be best.

[verbal rivet]

I think all guilds should have an “unc” role at this point

For the elderly and washed up

[clever belfry]

im not even 30

i am closer to 30 than 25 but im not 30 okay

[winter shoal]

Peaked in high school ahh

[verbal rivet]

lol

[winter shoal]

Sorry, peaked in Gymnasium

[clever belfry]

it was while i was unemployed and just started going to uni again okay

but that degree is done so i actually did something with my life kidna ?

[warm crag]

the goat

[thick fossil]

Is that going by average IO of the spec? Or just like the top 100 of each spec?

@tepid cedar I hate it. It feels like ass, you can really feel how slower it is. Results are as expected though.

[modest condor]

people might finally be catching on to fury now

jb was talking about maybe inviting a fury warrior when they were looking for a dps last night but he didnt know any lol

[steep fable]

I was looking at logs and have shifted focus from my logs to the apparent large fall-off of fury's DPS ranking when it comes to the Forgeweaver Araz fight. Ideas? Isn't it just another boss plus adds fight? Is it really so different from soulbinder?

[iron portal]

that is just poor future planning

[modest condor]

fr

[winter shoal]

Should've invited me smh

[modest condor]

cant believe nobody had a fury warrior prepared for the inevitable 4set bug fix that everybody knew was coming from season launch

[winter shoal]

I did one (1) key with him last season

[winter shoal]

We didn't even know whether it was a bug or intended until they fixed it

[iron portal]

I always have fury ready

[modest condor]

it was a yoke

[iron portal]

But also ... I dont really have anything else ready

[winter shoal]

ik I was trying to yes and you

need to work on my comedic timing I fear

[modest condor]

member that time you were playing resto druid

[thick fossil]

BFA?

[iron portal]

Not this season though

Legion, BFA, SL

Legion i pushed higher keys with resto

[modest condor]

s1 tww as well

[thick fossil]

Last time I played druid at all was BFA. it was a rat alt

[iron portal]

True actually

[modest condor]

that +10 arakara we did

[iron portal]

But I play resto druid since 2006

So it is kinda my second go to

[iron portal]

Gratz but also

[modest condor]

grats

[iron portal]

You aint no soul hunter

[undone flower]

but i got the boots

[thick fossil]

Hell yeah

I hope to see the boots in my vault.

[undone flower]

and the shield

[flat river]

i just searched up in archon

[iron portal]

I dont even get them on HC and I wont see that boss on mythiic

[flat river]

i read that wrong 👀

[iron portal]

Casual

[undone flower]

deserved lootfed

[chilly fractal]

Your trinkets still make me want to throw up

Dear god man sacrifice a goat or something to replace those things

[undone flower]

yeah i have screams heroic and arcano core heroic, but i didn't use it for soulhunter

[chilly fractal]

Oh phew

[shut jetty]

If i've held onto my sparks for crafting is it worth crafting a second 2h tomorrow?

Weds*

[hollow leaf]

man I love holding dps

[modest condor]

stop damage guys

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/ronan-sheesh-sheesh-gif-21479305

[hollow leaf]

I can't wait for 11

so I get to go to bed and read my book

[undone flower]

Quan Millz books ?

[tepid cedar]

lol yep…. Sorry didn’t mean to tag you sil. @thick fossil

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-gamora-what-did-it-cost-gif-14001403

[thick fossil]

Easily added 1 mil on the overall dps.

[tepid cedar]

Yea lol

[winter shoal]

Whatcha readin bud

[umbral gull]

guys, we are ok that's the best m+ build actually ?

[hollow leaf]

stephen king's it

[umbral gull]

i struggle to pack more than 20M

[winter shoal]

That build looks fine

[thick fossil]

Well .....

[winter shoal]

I'd take rumbling earth personally

[umbral gull]

can u please show me your ?

[winter shoal]

I also like focus in chaos over 2/2 CT

No

I'm at work

[umbral gull]

ok i'll send that to chat gpt lol

[winter shoal]

Holy

Imagine using the funny matrix instead of looking at a guide or something and using your brain

@clever belfry

[smoky vale]

@gleaming siren

[umbral gull]

we are fury main bro what did u expect

[gleaming siren]

@gleaming siren

[winter shoal]

I guess if you're not playing on english client then talent names are probably fucked

[clever belfry]

i love stats+lin algebra

[warm crag]

chatgpt why am i not top dps in mythic plus key?

[smoky vale]

chatgpt why is streamre ignoring me

[bitter palm]

skyreaver equipped

dps dipped

[warm crag]

it sits there

meanicingly

[winter shoal]

I've been skyreaving since I opened vault on tuesday and still topping in keys

Curious

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/dandelion-cat-meme-nature-plant-gif-8120693323711655977

[bitter palm]

hello twin

im skyreaver twin

come equip me twin

i wont do anything evil twin

ur slayer strikes will proc as normal

[winter shoal]

I got belt from my tazzy hm this week

[umbral gull]

fucking chat gpt speaking english too

[winter shoal]

I was about to crash out if I got a second skyreaver

[winter shoal]

@undone flower I only speak one language I need an adult

[clever belfry]

true mr chatgpt

[winter shoal]

HOLY

[umbral gull]

i'm the last gen of french people speak a little english, i let you gess which language they gonna learn in second language

[winter shoal]

I mean I would guess that they would learn english as a second language

[umbral gull]

🤡

[winter shoal]

So true bestie

Or maybe not idk

[umbral gull]

say you the truth gonna make me ban from here so, yep stay on ENG second lang in school bro

[bitter palm]

i am about to crash out

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-eating-interested-interesting-eat-gif-3051385934890756296

[winter shoal]

I have no idea what this means but I feel like there's some nationalistic motivation behind it that would very likely get you banned

[bitter palm]

wheres alpha and my invite blizzard

[chilly fractal]

Thank god I can clear 150k DPS I am truly elite

[winter shoal]

It's right here 👌

[bitter palm]

big arms rework

[undone flower]

Show me your D* (very ridicule word for it) or you are small

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/mc-jugger-nuggets-gif-19032506

[winter shoal]

I was referring to what they were saying about french secondary language education but I fear that is a topic best left untouched

[undone flower]

Oh he was just being racist

[radiant plank]

censor your slurs bowwl

its Fr*nch

[chilly fractal]

I hope one buddy of mine left me on his FNF when he stopped raiding and playing WoW much

[winter shoal]

I assumed so :^)

[chilly fractal]

FNF invites are the way to go

[winter shoal]

True my bad

[thick fossil]

J'ai dû prendre des cours de français au lycée

[chilly fractal]

I don’t speak whatever that is but I’m happy for you or sorry that happened

[glad coyote]

any tips for mythic forgeweaver yall got?

[thick fossil]

[undone flower]

bladestorm the adds

[bitter palm]

u will get an invite to alpha twin

[glad coyote]

whats bladestorm

[radiant plank]

inshallah we will both get

[chilly fractal]

Just don’t fuck up having adds go through void circles

If the raid wipes it won’t be because of you if you don’t fuck that up

[thick fossil]

And if you have to run Spear, we're all sorry. We've mostly had to do it ourselves.

[bitter palm]

and big arms rework

[undone flower]

my first kill i had spear yep

[winter shoal]

If your guild is down bad enough that you have to play spear idk

go next angle

[chilly fractal]

But if you run Roar it’s not like it matters much anyway

[undone flower]

yeah you can throw 1 point in spear / no capstone and forever hold it

piercing howl angle too

[thick fossil]

howl doesn't stack with the DK's always up slow.

[upbeat blade]

Weird my dk doesn't press that

[chilly fractal]

My guild runs a blood and 2 frost I think for Araz

We normally have 1 blood, 1 frost and 1 unholy

[thick fossil]

We're better off running long range shockwave than howl.

[languid willow]

not the worst day

[modest condor]

damn that's more invites than you get in an average whole season

[thick fossil]

Yeah, trying to get into 16s, I see DKs and mages taken before us. Even when it's phys comp already in the group.

[mossy fox]

phew i can do top/elite

not washed

[thick fossil]

Go take a bath stinky!

[steep lynx]

fury warrior so goated this season i did a priory bro used 4 defensives the entire key didnt die once hunter had 40 defensives used died 5 times

[tepid cedar]

I get so many more invites at 17-18: and

[glad coyote]

never get declined for your own key

[nimble kraken]

bladestorm bloodthirsts; they don't consume whirlwind stacks; I assume I don't need to whirlwind before pressing it then?

[tepid cedar]

Especially after you play with a few of the 3500 guys and they see you outdpsing frosts and rogues

[winter shoal]

Correct, it doesn't hurt if you do (as long as you're enraged during your bladestorm) but you don't have to

[thick fossil]

Yeah, my 16 HoA I beat the FDK and the Havoc. @tepid cedar

No monk buff.

[drifting token]

they sleepin

[iron portal]

We are prob one of tankiest specs in game tbh

[chilly plume]

warpaint go brrrrr

[winter shoal]

Yeah probably 3rd most resistant to 1shots without defensives behind dk and ret

Maybe even ahead of ret idk

[chilly plume]

likely also helps that we have 2 2H worth of stam

[winter shoal]

havoc is tankier to rot dam tho

[warm crag]

idk man ppl are terrified of mechanics i dont even spellreflect

[iron portal]

Helps with the rb spam within enrage after bs though

[warm crag]

@gleaming siren

[iron portal]

That is quite a spongie thing to say

I give it 8 out of 13 on spongie scale

[chilly plume]

bros yappin in warrior disc in between CE pulls

gamer

[gleaming siren]

I die in game

[warm crag]

this boss is certainly something

[gleaming siren]

Funny boss

Until you DPS stop

and then DPS stop

and then DPS stop

[winter shoal]

I don't want to stop damage dot mp4

[chilly plume]

when i grow up i wanna be like spongiewarr

[gleaming siren]

Same

He is so smart, handsome AND a verified streamer on Skyhold

[warm crag]

spomgiewarr is signifincantly more powerful @solemn plover

[dim stag]

Quick question , should you be enraged before using rampage ? Or rampage benefits from its own enrage ?

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/silencing-the-evil-shut-up-cat-spam-gif-12771978950366181258

[tepid cedar]

Just by being a spongie enyoyer. My wife said my peepee grew half an inch. No I’m at full inch in size

[warm crag]

not much cognitively going on in my brain when they are discussing moving a marker very slightly to the left

[chilly plume]

valid

[solemn plover]

spomgiewarr loves raiding

[chilly plume]

omg i have a new favorite vtuber

[winter shoal]

[dim stag]

So ive been playing like i have to be enraged , was i right or wrong to do that ?

[iron portal]

Dont have to be

[solemn plover]

fucked up

[winter shoal]

Rampage benefits from its own enrage, but there are other reasons you may want to refresh early

[iron portal]

Rampage enrages you and then it hits

[dim stag]

What reasons

[chilly plume]

does bro not have a ww tracker or full ST gaming?

[winter shoal]

Well just regular APL reasons for one, but also slayers strike and reap procs from the tier set happen like 0.5s after the ability that procs them, so their hits might not be enraged if it drops right after your exe/RB

[olive wraith]

1.2.3.4

[dim stag]

Thanks man

[smoky vale]

the storm

@hallow sphinx

[cobalt relic]

its getting better

[flat river]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/899763415290097664/1039866366695583804/B0363F1C-F28E-4C6A-92DD-C00BAB91F862.gif

[iron portal]

Need weekly graphs

People slowly realising that taling fury into key is worth

[cobalt relic]

wish I could get that

[lyric cliff]

Hello everyone 👋 newbie warrior here

[warm crag]

[thick fossil]

Reroll fotm warriors? Are those really a thing?

[chilly plume]

noooo let him be

we welcome another rb slapper

[remote bobcat]

yea

disgusting people

[iron portal]

Make it

[remote bobcat]

lots of ret palas swapping warrior

spit on em

[thick fossil]

No no no, this comment has nothing to do with @lyric cliff lol, that was just ironic timing.

[iron portal]

Cause that WA did some damage

[lyric cliff]

i mean i used to play warrior back in bfa, then i stopped in shadowlands and dragonflight, and this expansion , i have had enough of feral druid after 18 years so i was looking for another spec to play for the past 3 weeks and my friends suggested me warrior ,

[remote bobcat]

deserved

[thick fossil]

Indeed, welcome back!

[chilly plume]

wasn't there a WA that just like auto declined ret palas is that what yall r talkin about

[lyric cliff]

Ty dear , this time i wanna play more seriously and get the hang of it

but idk where to start

[chilly plume]

I thought I was okay at it but im like 10 parsing fract pulls

[lyric cliff]

regarding learning the rotation and stuff

[iron portal]

That is what i mean

[chilly plume]

w fuckem they had their time

[thick fossil]

There indeed was a WA to auto decline Ret paladins. Was hilarious as shit.

[chilly plume]

like, I do okay on other bosses but fractilus im garbo for some reason n it is a mystery to me yet

[iron portal]

Still is

[chilly plume]

i ded on loomy

[thick fossil]

I love rotting out on Loomy

[chilly plume]

I coulda fixed my parse this past week but I asked to swap my spot on loom to be in for plexus cuz i wanted 1h weapon

it dropped

with avoidance

[thick fossil]

Farming some tank gear?

[olive wraith]

Wowhead

[chilly plume]

yea im fury in raid and prot in M+

makes gearing weird

[bitter palm]

smf

[lyric cliff]

i have problem with written guides , eye problems

[bitter palm]

ez

[chilly plume]

wouldnt i need like an ilvl 800 1h for smf to be real

[bitter palm]

no clue

prolly

[warm crag]

what if skyreaver was a 1h

[bitter palm]

imagine if it was

noobs forget to switch to arms spec

get skyreaver 1h

in vault

brutal.

thats like

double curse

gg i think go next warrior

[wooden fern]

I need help from a Log Wizz. Can anybody please tell me what I've been doing wrong in this fight? Or rather what I could do to improve here. Parse was a 54 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KQAVYztLad4PG8Ry?fight=39&type=damage-done&source=19

[warm crag]

st trinket on soulbinder is ominous

soulbinder is a pad shitfest caring about logs on that fight is very suspicious

[wooden fern]

I care in the sense that we got it to 0.7% and maybe if I had a better performance we could have gotten it down, or at least lower

[olive wraith]

Like can’t read at all on a screen? There’s a couple people that do video guides

Oxxyog, madox, I think critcake has only done raid commentary but maybe he has m+ stuff too

[lyric cliff]

when i commit reading too long , my eyes will get blury and start hurting

[olive wraith]

Main thing you need is the prio list

Which is only a few minutes of reading at best

[lyric cliff]

hmm i see

[olive wraith]

Check it out and see if it’s doable. If not you got those content creators you could try

[lyric cliff]

couldnt find priority list on wowhead

[olive wraith]

Labeled under rotation

[remote bobcat]

single target

[lyric cliff]

oh ok thank you

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/traewockhardt-sad-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-16591014784735052511

did 4 floods

all gg

pain misery agony

[thick fossil]

Holy fuck. Can someone really explain why this is happening so often?

[frank dawn]

It's a strong comp?

[thick fossil]

Why would you take an Arcane mage over a warrior in that comp?

[remote bobcat]

the mage has no place in that group

[young swan]

why would u take arcane over havoc in that comp

[sullen tendon]

why would you take a frost over a warrior in that comp

[sullen dove]

cuz raid buffs are meaningless in m+

[thick fossil]

Intel only helps the healer, and even that is a barely.

[remote bobcat]

depends on dungeon, some dungeons rly like grip

[cobalt relic]

ST dmg

[young swan]

havoc just mroe

tho

arcane suck

people are just stuck in last season

[sullen dove]

have yet to see a mage do anything in any key this is true

[thick fossil]

5% attack power will more than make up for that. Havoc would be better yes.

[young swan]

even the average meta gamer is behind the curve because they suck

or are stupid

often both

[trim hound]

Doing an extra raid day to blast Fractilus thinking it would be quick, unfortunately a good amount of core raiders cant make it, but manage to put together a roster.
40 minutes in we have sorted out the no-shows and filled all the slots.
Our biggest blaster is on his mage alt for the raid buff and doing like 2/3 of his normal dmg.
Our Zoomer shadow priests keyboard starts glitching out and he doesn't know what a USB is and it takes 15 minutes to sort out.
2 hours later we realize one of our guys who filled a slot has a 74 versions old Liquid WA pack.
Best pull 9%.
The end, sorry for rant. I did big dmg at least

[young swan]

oh wow

[sullen dove]

me when extra raid days are shit

[young swan]

that is quite a dysfunctional raid group

[sullen dove]

[remote bobcat]

chatting

[shut jetty]

Fury so busted, beat a couple of 710s on my 701 haha (HOA btw)

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-sleepycat-sleepycar-cat-car-gif-314119685102089835

[young swan]

anyone feel like the mechanics this tier are like

[remote bobcat]

fotm reroller ?

[young swan]

way easier than they've been in the past 2 xpacs

[sullen dove]

I feel as though those other humans are not very human

[young swan]

i dont feel like a donkey dodging impossible shit anymore

[shut jetty]

fotm?

[sullen dove]

idk kinda chill

[young swan]

im a big fan

[sullen dove]

Haven’t seen nexus yet but like forgeweaver pretty pay phone after like 10 pulls just took another 90 for everyone to sort ccs

[shut jetty]

Oh no! I been Fury a while, this is my second warrior

[young swan]

feel like most mechanics are coordination checks instead of personal responsibility pass/fails

its good shit

only thing we have like that really are on the last 2 bosses and they arent like

that bad

hope they continue this direction

[remote bobcat]

nexus king its waiting simulator for your dinosaur guildmates and healer to finally learn how to move

Ok

[sullen dove]

as is every boss for me

[young swan]

tbf nexus king is an insanely hard fight for healers

[sullen dove]

think surely we see him this week

[remote bobcat]

yea its rly hard

[sullen dove]

if even a glimpse

[remote bobcat]

so as melee its just waiting sim

shrugeg

[earnest canyon]

I just started playing my mage again and it honestly seems shit. OK I'm only 670 ilevel but my warrior and hunter didn't feel this bad. Delves are a nightmare too.

[young swan]

doubly so as warrior

cause u just

ignore

90% of mechanics

[remote bobcat]

i mean we dont ignore mechanics

[sullen dove]

idk think mage has to like be played pretty correctly

[young swan]

we ignore claw

[remote bobcat]

we are tanky

[young swan]

we ignore dot

[remote bobcat]

and we charge claw

[sullen dove]

Whereas other specs more face roll

[young swan]

u spell reflect claw

and if u dont get claw u spell reflect the dot explosion

[sullen dove]

spell reflect dn

[remote bobcat]

my reflect is assigned for the big circle

[young swan]

u can reflect tank frontal

just use dstance

[sullen dove]

just don’t press it then

assigned reflect moment

[remote bobcat]

clueless~1

[young swan]

definitely worse to use it there instead of ignoring the 2 actually threatening mechanics

[sullen dove]

rather take 0 damage from something than 20% less of something that won’t kill me anyway

[young swan]

yeah

[sullen dove]

if like priests n shit are expected to live that

[remote bobcat]

neither ever kill u if u have gear

[vague spire]

Guys quick but maybe dumb question... im seeing everywhere main myth track weapon and crafted OH, is couse it's easier to get but if I get 2 Myth track weapons should i equip them? Or the Ascension is better than 3ilevel Offhand

[sullen dove]

Us with 15% more hp than them

[young swan]

they might if ur low or fuck up

and u can just never die to them with SR

tank soak is jsut healer heal problem

use dstance

payphone

[sullen dove]

ascension offhand maybe like thousands of dps better but that is rly small if u want to rip 2 myth weapons then u can craft 2 thread embells which is better for m+

idk how much worse in raid but can’t be that significant

prolly wouldn’t get a second myth weapon if there’s any other valuable myth track tho vs what’s mostly a minor m+ buff

[warm crag]

disagree buddy

idk if you play around spellreflecting the soaks you are able to spellreflect the final tick of the banish dot which is really good you double dip the value

then just dstance claws and you cant die

[hollow leaf]

this is what I played on nk, sr first claws, take second, sr third soak, sr beam group hit, rest is kinda conditional on when you get it

like you can use ER if you get first twilight massacre on platforms and you'll have it back for first star drops

if I got the second I'd just send SR

[hollow leaf]

the big strength in spell reflecting claws is you can spell reflect multiple instances of it

so you can't die from someone accidentally stacking on you with it

meanwhile the soak you can live natty with just enrage

I just kinda followed what eroka told me

[warm crag]

idk i can live 2 stacked claws in dstance

[smoky vale]

tg moment

[brittle monolith]

first kill on Araz but it hurts...

[chilly fractal]

Did you try pressing your buttons really hard