fury

[bitter palm]

everything is a hellscape with pugs

[modest condor]

dont worry it's not just dawnbreaker

[oblique thistle]

I've been able to do other dungeons relatively fine in pugs

[bitter palm]

710 pwar dies to tankbuster in dawn first boss

smile

[oblique thistle]

but DB seems to be a bane for me idk why

[bitter palm]

10 dawn

710 pwar

smile

[modest condor]

had a dps stand in the middle of the first pack in streets in a 14

like what

[oblique thistle]

lol

[modest condor]

that's something i would expect in an m0 or +2

[oblique thistle]

I timed streets 13 earlier this week in a pug no problem

DB however, its like im slamming my face against a brick wall

people's damage in this key is horrendous, tank routes are all over the place

[olive wraith]

Mobs won’t survive long enough to reduce bs cooldown

But honestly doesn’t really matter at those kind of meh levels

Just play slayer

[olive wraith]

Most of my DB issues have been heal checks

(Or people dying cause not using defensive)

[oblique thistle]

See I was worried that would be the main issue for me too

but every healer I've gotten has been pretty solid actually

its people dying to really stupid shit

stand in frontal, blow up orb on a wall

first boss in general

[modest condor]

it took me 2 attempts to time 14 dawnbreaker and both of them had a healer who could not keep up with the damage

[olive wraith]

Damage is pretty nutty

[modest condor]

one of them also happily flew off while someone (me) still had the heal absorb on the first boss

causing me to die

[olive wraith]

Bruh

[open prairie]

theres a tankbuster?

[oblique thistle]

I had the heal absorb once during that and charged to the boss and IV before flying away lol

[open prairie]

I just press shieldblock and ip

[oblique thistle]

thank god that worked

[modest condor]

the beam is a tankbuster

[olive wraith]

GOTTA MOUNT IN 1 second

Never mind you have a solid 5 seconds to gtfo

[modest condor]

IV is nowhere near enough to heal it off in my experience

[open prairie]

i thought that was just dumb player buster

[oblique thistle]

beam, and the group takes damage based on how much damage you take

[oblique thistle]

true, I already had some healing in this case

[open prairie]

or you mean not the rotating one

[modest condor]

the rotating one yes

[olive wraith]

I gotta start saving health pot I think

[open prairie]

oh thats why i take much more in some groups

[olive wraith]

Instead of dps pot with lust

[open prairie]

dps pot is different cd

[modest condor]

the damage isnt based on how much the tank takes

it's just a big hit, if it feels different sometimes it's because of overlaps with the heal absorb

[oblique thistle]

ah you right

I thought I heard that back in s1 somewhere

maybe it was some gremlin spreading some misinfo to get tanks to defensive that more often lol

[modest condor]

good misinfo to spread tbh

[charred flint]

yup

my 16 turned into a 13

but got a 15 today with a god gamer healer

but mostly it feels like a hard dg for healers

second boss seems pretty rough too

[open prairie]

i didnt know it was a buster of some sort

i just press ip

and block alot

[modest condor]

oh yeah also

the orb aoe overlap on 2nd boss

nobody except for me used a defensive :)

2 people died :)

[charred flint]

lol i did that once but in my defense i didnt do a street till i was already doing 12s or tens idk

My timed 15 dawnbraker had the same guy die to beams twice and we still timed it

somehow

[oblique thistle]

god I wish the groups I had did enough damage where that could be true

here's my last 13 attempt

[charred flint]

just gotta rb harder my man

[oblique thistle]

im trying 😢

[charred flint]

yay got to 3200

[modest condor]

my group had 2 people doing over 7mil dps which is probably why we still comfortably timed it despite the healer not being able to keep people alive on every other pull

[charred flint]

yea me and a monk spanked my 14

15

[quartz knot]

Currently running antenna (heroc track maxed) for single target fury. My sims run 4.8mil ST patchwerk 5mins

[wet locust]

how did the other 2 get into it? I cant get into 10s doing 6m smh

[quartz knot]

im practicing on dummy but im maintaining 3.5-3.7 mil ST. am i supposed to prioritize execute procs?

[charred flint]

No one knows your average dps before you get invited

Getting invited is mainly about your I.O

people who check logs are just tryhards

[wet locust]

and class

[charred flint]

Fury is for the first time ever kind of meta

[oblique thistle]

these guys had same ilvl and similar score to me

[charred flint]

so nah class isnt an excuse for us

[quartz knot]

Rampage>RB>Execute proc?

[wet locust]

it's not fdk

[modest condor]

nah man i check logs before i invite people, had a hunter with green parses on heroic try to apply to my group today, im passing on that one

[charred flint]

I do too but im a tryhard

lol

[wet locust]

wake me up when warriors have real utility

[modest condor]

dont need utility when you pump

i'd rather do more dps than have more utility

[wet locust]

ok sure but that 5th bloodlust spot

is looking awfully empty

[modest condor]

if you're meta people will make sure you're in before they are lacking lust

[wet locust]

that and with prot beign so good

[modest condor]

also physical comp is better than whatever the other people are running anyway

[charred flint]

idk man you're just on that copium

getting invited as dps is shit for every class

even for people who have lust

[wet locust]

theres a slight edge for utility, not a massive one

is all

[modest condor]

farover's group first tried 2 rank 1 keys after not playing for 2 weeks, i think that's good enough to be considered better ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[charred flint]

Granted you have most of the keys on the level you're trying to join

youll get invited

[modest condor]

utility only matters if dps is equal, which it isnt

[wet locust]

but dps isnt outdoing passive utility 90% of the time

[modest condor]

it is

[wet locust]

for an average group

that is

[modest condor]

the average group isnt even gonna use their utility 90% of the time

[charred flint]

like average groups

press ccs

lol

Did you see sil? i told ya i was going to get that SICK weapon

[modest condor]

bring a prot pally for their utility and then they never use wog or freedom or bop

i'll just bring a monk tank instead to make my numbers 5% bigger

[charred flint]

yup when my key is not dedge im always going for monk tank or ww

ww pumps on the low aoe keys too

[remote zephyr]

why did I get tank busted by avanoxx while my DH tank was still alive

[modest condor]

was he far away from the boss?

[remote zephyr]

we were both close

[modest condor]

ive heard of that randomly happening sometimes

[wet locust]

how close, enhance

[remote zephyr]

I was slightly further away in melee range

[olive wraith]

Rsham?

[wet locust]

aiming for warriors to get a bl equivalent

perhaps a shout?

a banner?

[olive wraith]

Bshout is huge for phys comp lol

[cedar tulip]

When do yall press thunderous roar on boss fights?

[dense elbow]

When there are more than 2 targets, or if I am oor from melee and can still hit with roar and Wrecking is on CD

Some times just by habbit

[olive wraith]

Ye running out for mechanics is ideal. Or as a last resort filler

[cedar tulip]

So don’t rip it on cd, dps loss basically unless you can’t hit boss. At least in ST

[olive wraith]

Ya I think it’s only higher than ww in st

Like funky I sometimes just hit it habitually

[ashen pawn]

Hey, what are the ideal values for secondary stats? Are there ideal percentages that one should aim to achieve?
I have, 53% mastery , 43% hast, 16% crit and 6% vers

[dense elbow]

No

[red berry]

i think i have over 40 attempts of 16 dawnbreaker the last two days

im going isnanne

[dense elbow]

Life of the top 0.5% is rough

Good that you deleted that Josh, I was about to hit you with the DepressedTomStats.gif

[olive wraith]

[upper wagon]

hey, warrior alt here, mainly play prot but occasionnaly do guildies 10s where there’s already a tank, i have 2x1H but no 2H so I kinda want an SMF build but builds played by top m+ player don’t go anywhere near the left side of the tree so I have zero idea what to cook. Is there any kind of "standard SMF" build for m+?

[olive wraith]

Thane is easier to fit smf

[upper wagon]

I have no strong feeling for any hero spec, I just want a decent build for some random weeklies. Just couldn’t find any SMF build out there to copy xD

[olive wraith]

Thane just drops either 1 VC or deft

For slayer probably drop 2 points of crit thinking

Also I’m pretty sure heroic 2h with do better than 2 myth 1h

If you do end up looting weps

[upper wagon]

wonderful, thanks

Yeah right now it’s 720+704 1H vs 593+571 2H

[olive wraith]

Could craft 2 675

And then try a sim

If you care that much

[upper wagon]

Nah I don’t care that much, it’s for guild weeklies on my third alt, I’m not farming weathered crest and spending money for that :D
I just wanted a decent build to avoid sandbagging too much

[celest dock]

has anyone got the link to the sudden death WA?

cant find it on wago

[hushed gust]

it hsould be pinned in one of the channels, i think

it's also on the fury wowhead page

[upper wagon]

Anyway, thanks for the help! :)

[celest dock]

ty ty im blind

[uneven ice]

what i need to sim for mythic + ? thanks 😉

[wispy bridge]

just do patchwork with 5 targets imo

[uneven ice]

ty

[olive wraith]

I just sim st

[cloud locust]

on average doing 6-7m DPS overall in keys as fury everything here look right or should I be hitting other stuff more often

[uneven path]

I think my ww is usually higher, but I might be mistaken

[sullen rune]

How the tank pulls and how fast things die in those pulls are a big factor on overall

[uneven path]

True

[cloud locust]

that's fair, I want to make sure I am hitting the right buttons

[olive wraith]

Breakdown looks roughly correct

[uneven path]

Can you show your talents ?

[lavish wedge]

lads whats the best warrior race for horde?

[uneven path]

Yeh, I would expect maybe roar and ww being higher, but otherwise it looks good to me.

[devout zodiac]

How come execute with any amount of MDFstacks id higher prio than raging blow on bosses with 20% or less HP? Is it just simply more damage or am I missing something else?

[sullen tendon]

is this damage breakdown good

fury war in this pug im in

honestly insane

[uneven path]

Is this boss DMG ?

[sullen tendon]

soul hunters

[uneven path]

I think it looks fine, depends on a tanks a lot, if they can keep the bosses together the reap might be higher but...

[sullen tendon]

looks insane to me

like just randomly hitting shit that lights up

[uneven path]

xdd

Maybe his rampage is too high, looks like he presses it every chance he gets.

[olive wraith]

Execute is actually pretty good damage

[devout zodiac]

So it's just simply better at 20%?

[olive wraith]

You don’t have to rely on sd procs

Above 20% you space it out because if you get unlucky with sd procs. Your jugg buff falls off

[undone flower]

And jug is 50% crit, execute stonks

But not as much to play massacre it seems

[olive wraith]

Massacre only raises the threshold by 10%

So that’s what? 30secs

[undone flower]

Next reclear ill try massacre on fractilus or loom

[charred flint]

why did they nerf

massacre

wasnt it 35%

[undone flower]

It reduces execute cd too

[olive wraith]

Ah 15% my b

I guess. But you still need mfe

[undone flower]

I will try to press execute on cd

[charred flint]

got to 3200 this week, CAN WE GET TO 3300 next week guys

[undone flower]

You can do it

I reached it yesterday

[devout zodiac]

Yeah I asked about the execute 20% thing because I keep logging like high 80s, mid 90s

[undone flower]

In mythic or heroic ?

[devout zodiac]

Can never really understand why I log like that but the execute thing will help

Heroic

[undone flower]

Okok, I don’t feel the execute at 20% would be the main reason here

[devout zodiac]

Oh yeah it isn't

It was just a question I had, so that itself should help

[undone flower]

I can tell you I don’t follow that and still good parse, just to reassure you

[brittle crow]

fury warrior plays the best it has in years

silksong comes out
2xko comes out
hades 2 coming out
borderlands 4 comes out

it wasn't meant to be bros

[devout zodiac]

@undone flower Sorry was on a boss, what do you mean you don't follow that? You mean you don't do the execute prio at 20% or?

[undone flower]

Yes I don’t, I’m sure it is a gain, but I mean, it is clearly not what need to be focused on first to do more damage

There is something bigger

[devout zodiac]

Ah yeah I see, yeah I agree, it's just one of I think many small things that I need to do

I'm OCE and just clear heroic with pugs so the constant 200+ ping is obviously not helping, I should join an OCE group one day and see how that feels

[undone flower]

It might be a reason or it can be a boss context reason, like if you don’t follow the first boss in intermission with charge charge + leap

If you swap target on demensius adds / go on the one behind

[thick fossil]

16 HoA done.
For some reason the DH started shooting off about (i think) the healer.

[undone flower]

What a coincidence my hoa 16 was a melee comp too

[thick fossil]

Kicks for days

[undone flower]

That must have been a pleasant run

[devout zodiac]

Anyone know of any top loggers who record their runs?

Or some VODs I can watch

[shell parcel]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pPZtwaxrB2F9f8LC?fight=39&type=damage-done
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/p6QXLZrCqkFDJAnw?fight=34&type=damage-done
Fellas I need help
In the first log I had an ok parse 88
In the second log I had a 56
I have no idea what changed because my damage is pure dogshit in the second log and I have no idea what I was doing wrong any help would be much appreciated

[lavish wedge]

yo sry for repeat question but are any of the horde races advantagious to have on warrior?

[thick fossil]

Minus the random fear on the first boss. I'm melee'ing away and suddenly I'm feared.

[lavish wedge]

like anythin that stands out from horde side?

[undone flower]

It happened to me once too, it was during the beam and my char ran through the boss before I dispelled myself

[thick fossil]

Is that a known bug?

[olive wraith]

Race doesn’t matter

[undone flower]

Idk if it is common known, it happened only to me once this season, and never met someone who saw it too

[undone flower]

I watch critcake stream vod or his bosses vid to have a general idea

[thick fossil]

I didn't even get a second to react as I ran right into the beam.

[scenic bluff]

can someone in a really simple way tell me what the soft cap/DR of haste or mastery is?

[olive wraith]

There is none. We just sim

[scenic bluff]

ty

[undone flower]

I guess : it’s 21k for mastery / I have no clue lmao

[olive wraith]

I have 21k and sims tell me to get more

[undone flower]

I mean the DR is at 21

[olive wraith]

Gotcha

[undone flower]

I know haste is a lower amount

I have 16k mastery

I still didn’t recover from getting the soulbinder neck

[olive wraith]

Holy shit

Rip

[thick fossil]

oh dear... i'm at 22k

[undone flower]

Mb I’m at 19k, I had the cloak haste fiber because I tanked some keys

[gusty cloak]

i just need more chancesss!!!

[restive peak]

Just had a DK in a 17 say he didn't have AMZ on his bars incase you wonder how much easier the game is to get IO as a meta class LMAO

[ionic ermine]

can someone link the execute weakaura?

i cannot find it 🙁

the one with the KACHING sound

[spring shell]

this one? https://wago.io/r8u4tHLRQ

[marble swift]

so is my whole rotation just RB

[thick fossil]

Hmm kinda?

[marble swift]

ok

[stoic star]

lots of rampage, executes, filler bloodthirsts in there as well 😛

[marble swift]

nah ill just RB

[thick fossil]

WW for AoE, Rampage to stay enraged, Bladestorm to stack overwhelm, and Execute to trigger Bladestorm CDR.

[echo raptor]

Does dungeon slice work for fury

[stoic star]

Do Patchwerk 5 target imo

[marble swift]

in theory

[thick fossil]

Sort of, but it's just a ST and an AoE sim lumped together

[olive wraith]

I just sim st

[tepid cedar]

17 eco. powerful enrage is the wayyyyyy

[thick fossil]

Guessing you need some sort of haste point for that to function?

[tepid cedar]

not really

run ur sims

5t 1.5m 8t 1.5m and 1t 4m

its a lot slower gameplay and urt not getting the massive non stop reaps

and im missing a 723 weapon, dps would skyrocket even more

need to delete my message

before the secret is oiut

.<

[thick fossil]

lol

[tepid cedar]

but do a realistic sim

packs are about 1-1.5min long

bosses at high keys are about 4 minm

[thick fossil]

3-4 yeah

[tepid cedar]

ur gona lose ST dmg, 0-40k

20

but we are so high in st its fine

but ur literally adding 3-600k dps on mt

feels like ass

cant even lie

lol

but results are results

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-17355313

[wise steeple]

hello there, I have a question while watching guide and talent tree it's seems like bloodthirst literally disappear from the rotation but I see that we still take many talent that buff it so I'm totally missing the point. Can someone explain why we need to get those points?

[upbeat plume]

its still cast as a last resort, and its autocast during bladestorm, but the real answer is theres not anything else that matters to take

[winter shoal]

This makes me feel like I'm playing on OCE ping but worse

[wise steeple]

ok I see thanks for the answer

[bold bear]

floodgate 1st pull

[gusty cloak]

nicee, i cant seem to peak high on that pull

[winter shoal]

What da dk doin

[bold bear]

he was 684 lol

[thick fossil]

Just slapped some target dummies. Yeah, I see what you mean. It's kinda like swimming in molasses.

[wary wave]

Guys what's the best one handed talent build if I need it just to have double thunderfury to piss off my friend in keys

[thick fossil]

Playing SMF will piss them off enough as is.

[junior gale]

its called pick any point and put it into SMF

[wary wave]

I'm a shield boi this is just for trolling his keys anyway

[thick fossil]

lol, fair enough

[tepid cedar]

its ass

absolute ass

butttt

resulkts dont lie

14b and missing a 723 weapon and trinkets

[thick fossil]

drop 1 or 2 points in Critical thinking, or 1 in deft experience to waste the 2 points to get Focus in chaos and SMF

[wary wave]

Bless

[tepid cedar]

delete this shit

lol

secret techssss

fuck ur bis phton sabre osa

[thick fossil]

And mythic trinkets.

[tepid cedar]

yea im locking you

blocking*(

lol

[olive wraith]

Next week is craft week?

[tepid cedar]

yea

craft a rinnggg

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/perfetto-yes-gif-26163077

[olive wraith]

I might do belt

Not sure yet

[tepid cedar]

i need whisper of kharesh

but really need a fucking trinket or phoiton... nothing droips int he raid for us lol

[thick fossil]

Don't worry, I had to waste a catalyst to get hero track pants. We've seen a total of 0 zenith tokens from all our mythic boss kills.

[tepid cedar]

i havent seen shit in 3 weeks in raid

and my vaults have been sockets basically lol

[vague sierra]

Zenith is a myth.

[thick fossil]

Vault has been kind, and I'm the only two handed sword user.

[thick fossil]

drops like candy in normals I do to help a streamer.

[vague sierra]

Only after first 2 weeks when you don't need tier anymore, I'm sure.

[thick fossil]

Yeah, lol.

[vague sierra]

Can't fool me.

[feral ivy]

Guys I found out how paladins are made https://youtube.com/shorts/QEOifFW0Iso?si=gSvzn8b5KzfO_H_5

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-talk-about-such-things-joey-gladstone-dave-coulier-fuller-house-we-dont-mention-that-gif-17868280

@tepid cedar I hate you, now I'm gonna have to actually try this in a few keys.

[unborn delta]

Just tried RA on soulbinder mythic. That shit is so dog

Gave me a loboztomy

[undone flower]

You can’t imitate God and not burn your wings

[modest condor]

i was messing around a bit with RA apl, could get it pretty close to AM on aoe but on st it was just way behind

[unborn delta]

have to hold reck/avatar and use them split up for each add spawn

[stable frost]

cant seem to find the setting any more in raidbots for how many people in group also have a signet of the priory

[undone flower]

Kinda expected / you 100% go into RB>rampage in AoE so it doesn’t affect too much, and in ST you are stuck with our flat damage but you decide to make it curved by 1% but lost everything

RA needs to be bursty fury

[unborn delta]

wicked blow should just delete the target

im simming powerful enrage on 3 target this shit better not be better on soulhunters

[tepid cedar]

lol

youll thank me and curse me

cause if feel like licking the cinamon ring off silmarilens booty cheeks

[bright ledge]

Do i cap enrage?

I use hekili and for some reason it tells me to rampage when i still have half of enrage

i mean should I or am i doiong it wrong

[winter shoal]

Sometimes, sometimes you don't

[bright ledge]

sometimes i have another RB but still tells me to rampage

[tepid cedar]

hek aint perfect

[unborn delta]

basically if you have full charges of RB/full charges + a proc of execute and arent full on rage, you want to use those first

[tepid cedar]

if u depend on it, just bang it when it tell su

[unborn delta]

if u have 1 charge of each, you're save to rampage bc any procs dont get wasted

[bright ledge]

so rampage when i dont have RB or proc of exe?

[tepid cedar]

yes

[bright ledge]

Ok, i will quit hekili soon i just started usign fury and wanted to learn

than you

[tepid cedar]

finallllly broke that hump

man i wish NA was more like EU. NA puggins is soo ass

16s are asbolutely fiulled with shitters. trying to HW keys is rouuuugghh

[undone flower]

I really wish I could try NA pugs lel, I had a huge blast doing my 15s and 16s

[tepid cedar]

no u dont

lol

[undone flower]

I still encountered ppl with kinda low damage but they gamed enough outside of that

[tepid cedar]

here u will have low damage, no kicks

[undone flower]

Timed is a timed

[tepid cedar]

and every tank thinks they can do kira and yoda routes

with melee comps

[vital stag]

Does the aoe from the Whirlwind buff do aoe around the target I'm hitting or does it hit around me?

[undone flower]

Around you

[vital stag]

Nice, that's good!

[undone flower]

For example : on loomithar you can have the tangle behind you and hit boss

If you ever played ww talents on it

[vital stag]

I gotcha. Was asking for Forgeweaver

[floral arrow]

hello friends

do we have any important CDs WA?

like Bloodthirst crit chance

[olive wraith]

Just the execute wa

That kachings when you should press it

#dps-faq wa section

[bright ledge]

Is the warrior good in legion? im thinking using it in legion remix

[junior gale]

how good warrior was in legion doesnt have anything to do with legion remix

sorry to break it to you

[bright ledge]

idk how it works

[unborn delta]

legion remix every class will be good if you farm all the bronze

[open prairie]

it plays with retail class design

[bright ledge]

oh thats cool

[compact knot]

im free

they killed dimensius

now i get rank 1 on every single boss

[worn owl]

anyone got tips on ky'veza?

my dps is rlly low for her even when i attack a lot while dodging

[olive wraith]

How low we talking

I think I’ve heard people just use single button rotation to focus on the mechanics

There’s no timer afaik

[hushed gust]

the clone dashes just makes that fight unfun for me, honestly...

[odd garden]

howcome it's ravager over bladestorm for the MT build? I thought BS was buffed recently?

[willow cradle]

Because unlike Slayer, MT doesn't have talents that impact BS or interact with it.

Ravager also lets you press T-blast as it's active.

[odd garden]

that makes a whole lot of sense ty ty

[gaunt loom]

in aoe , when the second bladestorm comes off cooldown, should i keep using raging blow, or should i use bladestorm? this is when the mobs still have a lot of health left.

[olive wraith]

If you can get that 2nd bs off cooldown before next pull, rip it

[hushed gust]

below a 14, if the mob is above 25% HP, you can probably weezle in another BS

below a 10, though, the threshold is closer to 30%

but these are just gut roughages

[undone flower]

A mob has 45% more hp in a 14 than a 10

You are already on the next pull if we talk about the same timing

[cursive pollen]

Hey, I'm getting back into fury dps.
Looking at the wowhead priority rotation, do I hold Recklessness for Avatar or hold Avatar for Recklessness?

With Anger management, it feels like I'm getting a recklessness every 45s-ish.
I'm guessing I should send one and if avatar comes soon I hold?

I guess I kind of just answered myself. Here's another one, how long should I hold avatar when its up but recklessness is not?
Should have kept reading wowhead. Thanks for your time

[runic pier]

Assuming you have it handled now, but just in case. if you are running the Beserkers Torment talent it really doesn't matter because activating one also grants you the other for 8 seconds

[grave elm]

Question, im gearing up my fury warrior rn after not playing since last season, do i go mountain thane until i get 4p then switch to slayer? or should i run slayer anyway? I only do m+ btw

[olive wraith]

Slayer

Thane is kinda bad until 4p

[stable bloom]

Does anyone have a macro that activates execute behind rampage?

[hardy shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[sudden tusk]

what do you mean

[queen panther]

Just press it...

[sudden tusk]

do you mean a macro that will cast execute before casting rampage?

[queen panther]

after ur rampage....

[olive wraith]

Weird thing to ask for imo

[undone flower]

Im pretty sure we can do weirder

[olive wraith]

Can I have a smf wa

[stable bloom]

#showtooltip
/startattack
/cast Execute
/cast Rampage

Like this

[olive wraith]

But why

[undone flower]

No you can’t macro 2 spells that are on the gcd

[stable bloom]

but that works more fluidly

[queen panther]

But like

why doe?

[undone flower]

Unless you do a cast sequence

[stable bloom]

it works, its just more of a cast sequence lol

[olive wraith]

Still.. why

[stable bloom]

because im asking

[olive wraith]

Same

[undone flower]

/castsequence Rampage, Execute

[queen panther]

Just a weird thing to put together in a macro

[sudden tusk]

no, its impossible to macro spells like that otherwise you could basically rotation bot

[stable bloom]

My UI shifts when its in execute phase, so i wanted it to possibly be back macro'd so i can cast it without having to change mouse binding

[queen panther]

just make a shift macro mod then

[sudden tusk]

nah anything on the global cooldown itself cannot be macroed together. you can use a modifier for the same button, but thats about it

[stable bloom]

Thats what i was defaulting to, but i wanted to check with other warrior peoples to see if they have something more fluid

[queen panther]

#showtooltip /cast [mod:shift] execute; rampage

[stable bloom]

yeah i have that, i was just praying there was a more consolidated way to do it without manually shifting lol

#lazy haha

[sudden tusk]

nope the only thing with that functionality in the game is the one button rotation assistant and they mostly locked down the ability to adjust it at all

[stable bloom]

Thanks! ❤️

ill stick to the control mod macro

[ornate gust]

What’s your point to macro them together? Execute is not a priority button to press!

[heavy steppe]

Should I swap to the Slayer Key build even with the s2 4pc ? or should I run thane until I get new 4pc

🤔

[olive wraith]

Slayer

[heavy steppe]

Thanks

[cobalt relic]

ggwp

[undone flower]

remove a button by adding a button

/cast Charge
/cast Avatar
/cast Pummel
/cast Taunt
/cast Last Stand
/cast Shield Wall
/castsequence reset=alt Shield Slam, Revenge, Thunder Clap, Ignore Pain, Shield Block, Demoralizing Shout, Shockwave

i got a cheap macro if you want to test prot

[nocturne carbon]

that buffed pummel and taunt tho

[undone flower]

there were dungeons i couldn't do with it, like mist (it was in S1) because of the second boss

yes i do stupid stuff, in S2 i tried to do the highest key without any shield block source

[nocturne carbon]

shield block source?

no shield or no button

[undone flower]

no shield block button or shield charge giving me shield block

because it would be easy just with shield charge

[obtuse needle]

What am I doing wrong in this key for AOE? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/J4yfpTvFYjbcaNt7?fight=1&type=damage-done ST seems fine.

[undone flower]

i still needed a shield to press shield slam

[nocturne carbon]

scares me your talking about prot things in a dps channel, and intentionally losing dps as prot by not using stuff

your game, your rules!

[undone flower]

#fury is the #general

[undone flower]

it was from 7-10s, i was curious if i could do a 10 without pressing or having shield block

[sudden tusk]

what was the key level

nvm 14 i see it

[olive wraith]

At the end of the first pull you cast bs

Also. Did it actually take 45 seconds for tank to group?

[undone flower]

you press a lot of double whirlwind

like really a shit ton

[olive wraith]

General advice. Don’t send more than 1 bs in a pull if you won’t have it at the start of the next pull

[undone flower]

does seismic ww appear in cast timeline ?

[obtuse needle]

Ok, I feel like my reap the storm dam is super low

[sudden tusk]

it is quite low. could be lack of buildup of the Overwhelmed debuff quickly to start getting reap procs.

[obtuse needle]

interesting

[sudden tusk]

but yeah you want BS at the start of every pack

[eternal sundial]

Look at the timestamps

If it's 0.75 + (in lust) it's a 2nd ww

[sudden tusk]

also depends on pull sizes if the tank is pulling big around the feral then the feral has way higher burst then we do

most of our value is sustained aoe

[sudden tusk]

so it evens iout the higher the keys go

[undone flower]

seems they are second WWs

[sudden tusk]

also playing with stupid ret class

could have too high a Spell que window with lust

forcing double imputs

[obtuse needle]

Yeah I def feel like I'm not doing that intentionally

[olive wraith]

I mean the bs thing is the Main issue

[sudden tusk]

imagine you have like 50 haste with frenzied + lust and play on defualt 400 spell que window

shits gonna clip

[undone flower]

it happens a lot

[eternal sundial]

Not why that happens

It's ppl pressing shit even while the spell is going off

[obtuse needle]

How much AOE dam should I be doing at the dummies? 12-13M?

[eternal sundial]

Lower SQW wouldnt help if u arent inputting right in the first place

[undone flower]

yep the spell queue doesn't create double casts

[olive wraith]

Sim it

[eternal sundial]

Playing mage you become a SQW andy

Since it's like the main topic for all log review

[sudden tusk]

i mean if hes mashing the button

with 80% haste

[undone flower]

yes it's pressing ww while it is already being casted / mashing it

[eternal sundial]

I mean u see ur guy spin u shouldnt react to the Animation and then rb

But see the GCD goin and go next step in head

Reacting to the buff showing up or whatever is full pepega

[rocky locust]

Now what about the opposite? Would you hold Avatar or Recklessness to wait for Bladestorm to come up?

[eternal sundial]

All this is in the APL fwiw

It depends if you would lose a use or not

If you dont know generally send things, especially if they have cdr - reck/bs

[radiant plank]

Dont hold either

[undone flower]

It was a 0.1% gain to hold if I remember correctly

[eternal sundial]

Fuck that

[undone flower]

So it is almost always a loss to hold in practice imo

[eternal sundial]

The potential loss is way worse

[undone flower]

Unless m+ tralalla next pack bs

[eternal sundial]

Fake gamemode

[undone flower]

Or AoE appears during the raid fight

[ornate gust]

😂😂 true

[lapis shadow]

I cast, that is all

[cobalt relic]

all gg

[heavy dock]

guys what exactly is the turbo boost thingie

havent played last season

[earnest canyon]

like 10 more ilevels to higher end gear, uncaps gilded crests, and gives you those...forget the name....tokens....that let you buy specific raid/dungeon items you might have grinded for but missed

denat? denari?

[heavy dock]

even the mythic ones?

[earnest canyon]

Dinars! that was it....the tokens are called dinars

yes, but only if you did the content

[heavy dock]

ah

[earnest canyon]

you can only buy missing items from content you completed

[heavy dock]

is it any gear

or just the special effects items

[earnest canyon]

no...cant remember how it was selected....I didnt use mine, but it had a lot of trinkets and stuff

[heavy dock]

ah ok

good to know

[earnest canyon]

yeah its pretty good, especially if you were super unlucky

[heavy dock]

indeed i was xd

so far at least

[earnest canyon]

I think a lot of people will buy boots, eg im on normal boots, but i clear HC each week....and I bet some people who clear mythic each week are still on normal boots lol

[heavy dock]

i managed to snag hc boots this week

[earnest canyon]

nice grats

[heavy dock]

but no sight of antenna or myth wep from vault or drop yet

or myth trinkets

[earnest canyon]

im using HC antenna, and normal arcanocore....but yeah, if I join a normal pug and there are some huge damage dealers who have a lot of myth gear, they still have a few pieces that arent

[chrome plover]

all trinkets and "special effect items" last tier

it will probs be all trinkets and demon hunter boots this tier

and maybe those special wizard weapons

(but who knows they might switch it up completely)

[cursive pollen]

I'll get those boots in raid before I even think of spending a dinar on them

[chrome plover]

ive not seen any difficulty antenna yet :kekw

[rough torrent]

Next week being a craft week, if I don't get a myth wep in vault, should I hold craft to potentially make an offhand if I miss a wep in vault for next 3 weeks?

[chrome plover]

on any char

[rough torrent]

I'd otherwise probably just be making a ring or something

[chrome plover]

generally spending 2 separate sparks is more damage than an off hand, sim crafts

[rough torrent]

Or should I just operate under the assumption that eventually I'll get a 723 wep

[chrome plover]

i think for me a ring + neck would be more than just a 2h (with a 710 offhand)

[dense elbow]

I rather make two rings, than risk losing two sparks a week later for minor gains

[cursive pollen]

Sim would be your friend here. I'm pretty sure offhand wont sim much higher over a heroic weapon

[rough torrent]

Ok thanks ill check on tues

Hoping for myth antenna regardless since I killed 2 bosses this week

[chrome plover]

would be nice...

[rough torrent]

I deserve it

[chrome plover]

my warrior is also hoping for that

[rough torrent]

Lol

[undone flower]

Im hoping for either trinkets or any belt

I still have a catalyst charge so every belt is good

[rough torrent]

I think for me myth antenna>myth idol>wep>tier

[undone flower]

one day that mf trinket will drop on the first boss

[rough torrent]

Based less off sims but more of the relative rarity

[undone flower]

Dh boots would be the best but I prefer pre-dooming I don’t get it

[chrome plover]

my warrior did first 2 last week and got myth dh boots

[rough torrent]

Those are on the loot table with just first 2?

[chrome plover]

no ive killed soul hunters before

[undone flower]

If you ever killed dh

[rough torrent]

The cape boots or w.e

Og

Oh nvm

[undone flower]

I didn’t kill them yet but I can get it bc fractilus

[chrome plover]

dk is reclearing now because im using it for last 2

so warrior demoted to first 2 pugs

[dense elbow]

I haven't touched the raid this season, how doable is first two on a scale of Gnarlroot to The Jailer

[rough torrent]

I just m+ and pug

[chrome plover]

it's piss

[rough torrent]

First 2 were pretty easy and the first boss is harder so you won't get saved and just get 1 kill

[chrome plover]

obviously pugs are hit and miss but i do 3-4 per week and i'd say half of them 1 shot both bosses

[undone flower]

It is really given, since plexus is harder than soulbinder, you will not get tagged if you have a shit group

[dense elbow]

Aight, I will prob get it done this week then. Just need to grab a soulhunter alt clear

[undone flower]

• you have a chance to get antenna in the slot

[chrome plover]

yeah that makes it really op tbh

[heavy dock]

wait u can get antenna if u only clear plexus/soulbinder?

in vault

[undone flower]

you can have in your vault any loot from the previous bosses even if you didn't kill them

i got the dh shoulders previous week

[heavy dock]

ig since 2nd boss can be either loom or soulbinder

interesting

[undone flower]

yes and soulbinder is the "third" on the list

[heavy dock]

i didnt rly bother cuz getting invited without a mythic clear is really hard but im gonna give it a shot

even tho id do fine lol

[potent citrus]

https://i.hep.gg/-P_XgKBJI

pulls were a bit fucked but is this good damage overall

ilevel 700

4pc

+10 dawn

[potent sphinx]

Even if it was scuffed pulls you should be above 5m, obviously we cannot see how scuffed we are talking, but a +10 i do atleast 7m

At least

[potent citrus]

4 add pulls

[lean heart]

slayer slaps in dawn

tbf slayer just slaps now straight up any key

[potent citrus]

oh that might do it

10 casts of thunderous roar

[subtle lagoon]

How's fury now compared to SL and DF?

[chrome plover]

[night void]

How big is diff between powerfull enrage and frenzied enrage? Siming same actualy in margin of error... Its just matter of taste i assume? cause i tried some keys with both and for me worked powerfull better

Anyone?

[jolly mist]

i personally liked df s3 fury most

slayer arms is p good too tho

[subtle lagoon]

From a gameplay or numbers perspective?

[jolly mist]

gameplay

rn slayer is doing super good

but if u care about numbers just go play dk

[subtle lagoon]

I'm a fury one trick and quit back in DF S4

Thinking of jumping back in

[cobalt relic]

gg? gg

[chrome plover]

it's really good in raid, really good in keys and i enjoy the gameplay :)

[subtle lagoon]

Good gameplay and overall good performance does give out juicy dopamine

[hollow leaf]

Good time to come back

[slim coral]

you can play either one

[hollow leaf]

We're quite strong

[hollow leaf]

Frenzied tends to come out on top currently due to how much we love haste but they're like <1% difference, so play what you like

[night void]

Yy cause i m more about if Its some hidden perk or so...everybody just copy paste And i m not that fan of overhasted spam fest... But as i said for me zero diff... So i wanted to be sure

Ty for response

[radiant lake]

quick prolly stupid question but im new to dps warr

should I delay my bladestorm if there is adds coming soon?

[slim coral]

depends on what soon is but yes

[radiant lake]

lets say 10 seconds

[elder granite]

is roar even worth pressing on pure st fights

[pulsar quest]

No

It’s very lowest prio

If there’s nothing else

Most fights I get like 1 roar in

[radiant lake]

why we even takee it then for single

[radiant plank]

cuz its better filler than slam

[radiant lake]

could swap it for something like intervene for mobility?

[slim coral]

then yes

[plush zephyr]

sure

[remote bobcat]

what was the website where i can check cooldown usage again?

[plush zephyr]

Lorrgs

[brittle crow]

spam bots sending me friend requests in MY skyhold?

@white mantle mods bean this guy

[heavy dock]

But shes an artist in need of money cuz her dog grew a 2nd tail thats gonna fall off and cause plagues and only you can help her :(

Or something

[brittle crow]

i am captivated by the hu tao profile picture

but i wont fall for it this time

[sullen dove]

you will succumb

[brittle crow]

monogamy is hard

[sullen dove]

true

[remote bobcat]

thanks g

[feral notch]

Do we use dungeon slice when simming for estimated mythic+ damage or something else?

[cobalt relic]

all gg

[cobalt relic]

I think PW 1 target

5m

not sure myself tho

@mossy fox what we simming

[plush zephyr]

Just do 1t 5min, 5t 5min lol

Wake the fuck up crit someone has a question 😂

[cobalt relic]

cap

[plush zephyr]

I’m assuming this is slang for “bullshit”

how

[cobalt relic]

why 5m on 5t

u think packs last 5m

[plush zephyr]

“1t 5min, 5t 5 mins” either or

[cobalt relic]

ah

I thought sim twice

and evaluate dmg

[plush zephyr]

I just send top gear

I don’t think I’ve straight up simmed all season

[warm crag]

ominous

[heavy dock]

well you sim to know top gear no?

isnt that the setting ppl use 99% of the time?

[eager lily]

Yes

But i assume, they talked about the settings for that.

[compact siren]

The only ominous thing is the fact that you are 3ft 6

[warm crag]

problem?

[compact siren]

No

Just ominous innit

[remote bobcat]

man i kinda dont wanna prog nexus king, they are even talking about assigning victory rush for me like bruh calm down

😭

like fuck u mean u assigned my d-stance, lemme do that myself cuh

[warm crag]

whoever is assigning you defensives is a freak

[remote bobcat]

I usually do that myself

[warm crag]

that fight fundamentally doesnt even work with assigned defensives

[remote bobcat]

but for NK my rlead decided that everyone needs to giga assign their shit, i asked a question about it and then he went ahead and just did full assignments for me

[remote bobcat]

if you leave enough space between cd usage, there is

cuz uh

conquest early or late

type shii

[pale lava]

assigning d stance

is just straight up uninstall

[cobalt relic]

hahahah

[twilit temple]

Out of curiosity, how much do you think slayer fury is impacted by high ping? I play on consistent 150 and with how spammy the spec feels, I feel like i'm missing SD procs or double casting WW and shit like that... or i'm just trash lol

[pale lava]

high apm specs suffer a lot from high ping

with that ping you'd be better off playing a caster

[twilit temple]

Well this is "temporary", back home i'm usually around 32 but for this entire season i'll be on 150ish

[remote bobcat]

swap to powerful enrage and you'll likely perform better overall

cuz of ur ping

[twilit temple]

The hard part in keys is maintaining enrage, WW, reacting to SD, almost feels like I get 1 RB in every set of WW stacks

[remote bobcat]

that's not a 150 ping issue

I promise you that

Having 150 ping by being overseas is not that big of a deal as long as that ping is consistent

having packet loss eats up gcds.

[twilit temple]

Gotcha, guess i'll have to do a little more research then

[remote bobcat]

you can also change your input buffer

you can check if it helps you out

there's just no way that you click ww -> rb -> rampage -> ww because of 150 ping, like thats simply not a thing my g

[twilit temple]

The spell queue or is this something else?

[remote bobcat]

i think that's what it's called yea, not sure

[twilit temple]

I'll try powerful enrage then and I looked at my log and I end up sometimes with 5 globals between WW but it's not as extreme as your previous comment but I do know i'm flubbing it

My previous internet was inconsistent as hell, ever since I got starlink, it's much more consistent except for last night... bricked my 17 since I d/c'd mid boss

[chilly fractal]

I remember playing with 300+ Ping from like 2004-2009

Those were the days

[fading sky]

U could also just play arms

[restive granite]

https://tenor.com/view/elon-musk-this-is-elon-musk-musk-tesla-egifmeme-gif-13716021226937735268

the full version isnt available in the gif section lol

[chrome plover]

unsurprising

[chilly fractal]

And while he was there he was also playing Diablo 4

At the same time like some sort of wizard…

[remote rover]

fury warrior was nerfed this morning?

[chilly fractal]

Says who?

[remote rover]

just blood tirsty

[chilly fractal]

I don’t speak whatever that is

[remote rover]

proc this

ok ok

this on dont proc

this

only

[chilly fractal]

RB procs Reap from your 4p set bonus

Not the talent

[glad coyote]

anybody know how big screerams of a forgotten sky is in m+?

[warm crag]

not very good

[chilly fractal]

Not

[worn rain]

more like how small it is

[cobalt relic]

but its bis in raid right

[remote bobcat]

@remote rover reap the storm procs from having overwhelmed on the targets. Read your 4set. If you dont have the debuff on them then you will never get reap the storm proc.

[cobalt relic]

next to antenna

[chilly fractal]

Yea

[warm crag]

more than 2 trinkets are bis in the raid ye

[cobalt relic]

nicuh

[remote rover]

huuum

ok

montain thane is not a good spec for fury?

[pearl sequoia]

Run.

[chrome plover]

[stoic echo]

day 4 of getting 0 17 invites, fucking shoot me

almost 1k applications yippie

[cobalt relic]

@stoic echo ggwp

im sitting at 18s

[chrome plover]

ggwp

[stoic echo]

I had a really good pace, its over now

[cobalt relic]

gg

[stoic echo]

i cant get into a single 17, see you guys at turbo boost idfk

[cobalt relic]

[chilly fractal]

Genuinely curious… what of the people you did 16 keys with

Are none of them available

[stoic echo]

lots of them I didnt want to add

[glad coyote]

just do your own key

invite is 100%

[chrome plover]

i was about to ask a similar question, why don't you add people you had a good time playing with/find friends/find a team

pugging past like 14s seems miserable to me

[chilly fractal]

I did a 15 this season… hated every second of it

Rather just dunk on 10-12

[cobalt relic]

all gg

[chrome plover]

i understand the enjoyment of pushing keys

just not of pugging them

[cedar tulip]

Any way to have a log reviewed here?

[chrome plover]

#1347646810457636974

[twilit temple]

o.0

[chilly fractal]

I wish Blizzard would put meaningful rewards beyond 3k but prior to title

[cobalt relic]

just need new system

solo queue like in league

[glad coyote]

god no

[cobalt relic]

and ur getting matched with similar rio ppl

ez

[restive granite]

they should ban all these tipping weirdos

[chrome plover]

as an option, why not?

[restive granite]

400 of the 537 are tipping mofos on my shit list

[stoic echo]

BASED

[cobalt relic]

real

[stoic echo]

I am, most people that I enjoyed playing with suddenly just are never online when I am

never got approached on raider io despite recruitment message 24/7

[cobalt relic]

ye that's useless

[open prairie]

paying people to int your key

[cobalt relic]

legit

[open prairie]

wow players really have no standards

[chilly fractal]

Ok I was timed out asking what your note meant

[restive granite]

are you eu?

[stoic echo]

ye

[restive granite]

were looking for a warrior

on my team

[stoic echo]

I'm genuinely bummed out atm about not being able to push anymore currently cause I dont feel like 17s my peak at all

[chrome plover]

i think it's people with a key at a certain level, and resilient achi for that level, who ask for tips to attempt their key with them

[restive granite]

we got resil 18s last season but had 2 dip a short after the boost

ill dm u

[stoic echo]

sure thing 👍

[cobalt relic]

17s are nothing tbh

[stoic echo]

I'm at 3.4k rio atm

[cobalt relic]

I see myself at 19

[stoic echo]

true, though I get really jealous seeing critcake's tanks in his streams where he can basically attack the moment the tank attacked them

can't do that in pug

[chilly fractal]

Still have your whole life ahead of you

[stoic echo]

you just grab threat immediately

[chilly fractal]

I wish I could see myself at 19 again /s

[cobalt relic]

we gon get there

pugging

[cobalt relic]

depends which tank but ye

only have that issue w brew

[stoic echo]

I still see a ton of tanks just hitting the mobs once, rushing forward when party isnt even close to being there

instead of just moving with the party

so everyone can attack

[cobalt relic]

just shadowmeld np

can't wait to hit home and sit in queue for 6hrs to wipe first min in +18s

[heavy dock]

Sounds like fun

Thanks for reminding me why ill never push without a premade

[fading sky]

Tbf back pedaling is slower. To gather

For some specs u prob want the mass gathered faster vs more threat while runnin to spot

[stoic echo]

i mean obv depends on the packs

and context

[fading sky]

I do love dhs jumpin past mobs

And my 1 bt aggro

[stoic echo]

I'm just comparing it to what I see in other high key videos / streams where they can often attack the pack immediately

[fading sky]

True

[restive granite]

the biggest dps upgrade avaialble is meld

[coarse nest]

Human op

[stoic echo]

gnome only

[chrome plover]

goblin >>>

[coarse nest]

What da heelll

[lucid flint]

hey guys, i would love to master my fury warrior and to improve my dps

how can i get better? what can i look for?

how can i read logs, and understand where my faults are?

how could you help me? what would you need from me? Which informations do you need?

[smoky vale]

can you do your rotation on a dummy

within 0.5% of the robot

then find out where people are using cooldowns

[lucid flint]

excuse me, what do you mean with wiithin 0,5% of the robot?

i use the cool downs on cd

but i know adds will come in a sec.

[radiant perch]

Simulate your dps with raidbots, then try to match it on dummy

[lucid flint]

ah

[mild ravine]

But set the simm to dummy and remove the buffs, or else you'll just feel miserable.

[lucid flint]

ok 😄

i thought, i should use rampage on cd too, but yesterday i tried a rotatoin helper, and he delays the rampage

[chrome plover]

thoroughly read the wowhead rotation page

so that you understand when and why you press your buttons

[lucid flint]

i thought, i should use rampage, even if i am enraged already, because i reset the cool down for the bladestorm

[chrome plover]

raging blow / execute / rampage

are all pressed at specific times

[lucid flint]

yes i did

[smoky vale]

nono

[lucid flint]

my dps isnt that bad

[smoky vale]

read it

10000 times

[lucid flint]

can you look into my raidlogs from yesterday?

maybe you find something`?

[chrome plover]

this tells me that you didnt understand it fully

[chrome plover]

you can post them in #1347646810457636974 and someone will look when they have t ime

[lucid flint]

i did more dps, after i delayed it

[smoky vale]

you should plug it into wowanalyzer

[chrome plover]

if you post in here they will just get lost

[lucid flint]

okay, i will do it at post it

[smoky vale]

chawie help i need to ascend from 0.24% of the dummy to 0.1%

[chrome plover]

what does that mean

just blame variance

[smoky vale]

im like 20-10k below sim

but real

[chrome plover]

if i do less than 4154 i got unlucky (im perfect)

if i do more than 4154 im better than the robot (god)

[smoky vale]

that feeling when you gap the robot

[lucid flint]

allright, thank you for the advice with the log review channel, i did a post there

[sour tangle]

Do I just keep spamming raging blow up to 5 stacks if I can after my ww?

or do I send rampage before that to not munch too much rage

after 2 raging blows

[chrome plover]

in aoe: keep enrage up, always have a whirlwind stack, and spam raging blow

[sour tangle]

Okay so I dont care about rage I just spam raging blow untill enrage is running out then I rampage?

[drifting token]

you're rarely if ever going to have enough enrage time to get more than like 3 rb's in

[chrome plover]

yeah exactly

[drifting token]

only possible way I see to get more is if you're rb'ing and then you pop BS and let that refresh enrage for you and then get a couple more rb's after that

[sour tangle]

Okay I see

[hoary agate]

4154 would be bang average. God would be over the 4693 maximum

[strong ridge]

it does not really matter, just stay enraged and have whirlwind up. you can chose to spend rage oder keep raging blowing

[molten dune]

how acuurate is it to sim with dungeon slice?

[coarse nest]

@radiant plank still cooking Dslice?

[radiant plank]

For Arms yes

[coarse nest]

Got it thank you

[weak needle]

is it really worth taking roar

[quiet breach]

one time I took that 30% heal 3 min CD defensive instead of roar

on fractilus

:shrug: I used it

was worth

[polar narwhal]

Roar is just there for filler in case Raging Blow is being unreliable and not getting charges back.

[cobalt relic]

worth to drop wrecking throw for seismic?

for m+

[quiet breach]

even in ST fights I'd still take roar if there's ever times where casting it is good, like on plexus casting it on the adds or loomithar casting it on the add+boss

[cobalt relic]

would u say going str8 for boss is better parse/uptime wise

[weak needle]

yeah, thats where my minds at

[quiet breach]

what dungeons is wrecking throw good in? I love pressing that button

[cobalt relic]

every dungeon where they have shields

e.g. dawnbreaker

miniboss

[quiet breach]

yeah but in my raid we are all expected to kill the adds

[cobalt relic]

ah

[glad coyote]

yes

[quiet breach]

tbh I could prob skip adds on plexus

but we only killed loom 2x

so like

[cobalt relic]

also streets

boss

with the notes

[quiet breach]

it's not giga on farm to where I can pad

[cobalt relic]

he has fat shield too

where it hits like a truck

but idk tbh

[quiet breach]

can you link your wrecking throw m+ talents

like full page u use

[glad coyote]

CgEArbixk/ZKwTdpZGVHeylmLAAAAAAAAAQjhxsxMMzygZWYmZGzwMMz22MjZmZBYmZGzMzywDwMzMAAAImZbbsxmlNz0YmZYyswMsBA

just use this for m+

[cobalt relic]

whats the diff to mine

burst

my bro

[feral notch]

the sudden death WA linked in the wowhead guide triggers when either the sudden death or marked for execution criteria are met ya?

[cobalt relic]

both and ashen juggernaut

[glad coyote]

https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/fury/warrior/mythic-plus/talents/10/all-dungeons/this-week#hero-talents

[remote bobcat]

double defensive node instead of fresh meat?

[stark lantern]

Ideally for fury slayer M+ (Recently just switched from mountain thane), we would want to have bladestorm up before each pack? If bladestorm is not up, what would we fill it in with until it is up? Since Im guessing Fury slayer is heavily reliant on having bladestorm from pack to pack to keep getting Raging blow + reap the storm procs?

[remote bobcat]

yea we heavily rely on bladestorm, otherwise you end up spamming bloodthirst to get reap procs instead 🤡

[stark lantern]

gotcha, ty was just testing on target dummies to compare thane vs fury. Both seem just as viable still, but on 5 min combat timer, I still maintain 10-11mil on Fury Slayer while Fury MT drops a bit towards 8-9m

[rocky sequoia]

no mount for AOTC wowwwwwwwww

[remote bobcat]

yea there is

[stark lantern]

Royal voidwing (you get a quest to turn in for it)

[fast saffron]

Thinking about switching to fury after hitting 3k on my mage. Thoughts?

[plush zephyr]

Do it

Feel like there’s quite a few of us alting mage

Idk why warrior and mage always correlated to me

[fast saffron]

mage is pretty fun but dying in m+ as an arcane is so punishing

you lose all of your damage for the next 40 seconds

[stoic marsh]

Mage + warrior is the corner stone of any fantasy rpg games

[fast saffron]

i hate it

[stoic marsh]

At least mage has a whole lot of defensive

[fast saffron]

i get one shotted by anything if i dont prereact

[coarse nest]

The problem with mage is you don’t have any of your warrior abilities when you play it

[rocky sequoia]

oh okay ty

[stark lantern]

ironically my alt is a mage lol...

[thick fossil]

I can't stand any class that turret modes.

Too many area denial for me to be comfy playing that.

[stark lantern]

np! if you dont see the person to turn in the quest, you may need to go and start the campaign just a little more

[thick fossil]

I also wish they would fix some of the fucking hitboxes of mobs.

2nd boss of HoA you have to be up inside his ass to be in melee range.

His hit box is about half of the circle at his feet.

[stark lantern]

compared to fury thane, it feels like im pressing whirlwind a bit more for cleave since raging blow / rampage seems to be up mostly, compared to mountain thane where while the APM is still quite high, fury slayer seems a bit higher?

[plush zephyr]

I’m slotted as a mage for raid idk who I am anymore

[remote bobcat]

wat

what are u even yappin my g

[olive wraith]

Thane runs powerful enrage generally. So you “lose” 15% haste