fury

[olive wraith]

It’s still good st

But if you aren’t chain pulling it’s easy to drop stacks

[leaden wasp]

i feel like the higher the key is, the more worth it is

[olive wraith]

Sure it can be

Uptime for threads is probably better in the long run. Plus verse makes us more tanky

Makes idol hit harder

So again it’s kinda hard to compare

[foggy aspen]

What about just using it for the magic damage reduction in raid? I see it in logs but I'm trying to understand why people use it when they do.

[olive wraith]

Yes it’s a magic defensive

[cobalt relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413511346548379739/GIF_20250904_160623_708.gif

[undone flower]

That’s the most common use of spell reflect yes, even in dungeon, I mostly use it as a defensive

It is a 20% DR on 20 sec cd, it is one of the strongest def CD in the game imo

[olive wraith]

Reflect and d stance. Most underrated defensive

[undone flower]

I don’t stance dance that much in m+, I mostly do it in raid

The reflect part of spell reflect is the bonus cherry for me, they could delete it I wouldn’t be bothered tbf

[dense elbow]

I jump into dstance when I got 3 poisions on myself, and ya cant stop me

[signal steeple]

I've never heard someone apathetic about the second-coolest defensive in the game. I think you should keep your wrong opinion to yourself.

[undone flower]

You can spell reflect the application

Of the poisons

Noob

[dense elbow]

All 5 of em?

[undone flower]

Just shockwave and insult healer

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-oh-no-oh-no-no-no-no-gif-17603099

[undone flower]

You should have kept this comment to yourself i feel, what do you find cool about it ?

[signal steeple]

I have nothing to discuss with someone who hates spell reflect. Good day to you sir.

[dense elbow]

Noone hates SR in here

[undone flower]

I don’t hate spell reflect wtf

[dense elbow]

That is impossible

[undone flower]

#fury message

[dense elbow]

Happy a SR hater confirmed

[undone flower]

Blind or hallucinates or ragebait I guess

[dense elbow]

never knew

Hopefully Archi sees this and bans you, Happy. Unbelievable. Even I wouldnt go this far.

[coarse pond]

does rampage always get the damage buff from enrage?

[dense elbow]

Yep

[coarse pond]

so just barely dropping enrage isnt a big deal?

[dense elbow]

As long ya dont throw big dam into it

then it doesnt matter

miss a random WW? Dont sweat it

[coarse pond]

ty

[dense elbow]

[undone flower]

I think just ww is the only acceptable loss

Anything else : it ruins my next 3 dungeons how bad I was

[dense elbow]

What about heroic throw?

[undone flower]

I feel bad when I have to heroic throw in the first place

[dense elbow]

What about charge?

I got this feeling there is more than only WW

[silver tapir]

Unenraged SR

[snow flower]

The reflect is such a -nice- bonus, when it happens, because if there's ever a spell your party will interrupt, it's whatever you're about to reflect 🙃

[undone flower]

Nah you need that enraged leap in the middle of the pack

[dense elbow]

dead trinky

There it is, what I was looking for:

giga dam

Does this need enrage?

[undone flower]

Yeah that’s why I say it is a cherry, I don’t particularly value a spreadsheet cool when it is inconsistent like that

[undone flower]

This one yes

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/lessar-toaru-to-aru-majutsu-no-index-to-aru-kagaku-no-railgun-anime-gif-936703522623316960

big dam

[undone flower]

Big plexus dam

[open wigeon]

I like Bladestorming, but I miss the fat thunder blasts

[dense elbow]

Why blast when you can OF?

Oh...

right...

[undone flower]

2.6%

[dense elbow]

OF buffs 220% soon

trust

[undone flower]

It’s with the capstone ?

[dense elbow]

Should take dancing blades, for giga value

[undone flower]

Idk you could play OF without taking any OF capstones

[dense elbow]

I would never

https://tenor.com/view/cats-funny-animals-offended-nose-up-pride-gif-10704733

[undone flower]

It is 0.26% of your dps, I understand

[dense elbow]

Nah it is a tad more

cause you get 1 less cast of WW

[steady plume]

Should I be trying to hold Rampage for once I get 5 stacks of Slaughtering strikes or just go ahead and use it once I hit 115+ rage?

[dense elbow]

Send as many RBs you can while enraged (and with WW stacks), then rampage as enrage drops

[olive wraith]

We don’t care about slaughtering strikes unless it’s directly after bs

[undone flower]

it might not be the case forever

apex talent about RB huuuh

[olive wraith]

Pls more bt help

[junior gale]

You mean OF removed?

[rigid stirrup]

Low key hope the current playstyle stays with us going into midnight

It's gonna feel giga bad not spinning all the time

[olive wraith]

It’s pretty good. But I still think we should value bt in some capacity

Even if both hero trees feel really good to play rn

[worn rain]

100% overwhelmed stacks apply but no longer proc reap

ez

[twin crag]

Hey guys what’s the best video guide to watch this patch ?

Any suggestions

[olive wraith]

For what

[twin crag]

Playing fury in general

[olive wraith]

Critcake has raid boss commentary

@storm birch did you do an updated rotation vid

[plush zephyr]

They did

Also has mythic povs

[twin crag]

Oh ok thanks. YouTube? Whats his character name in game?

[plush zephyr]

Go to #promotion

There’s Bazed also

Goated

[twin crag]

Ok thanks

[dense elbow]

[plush zephyr]

Yuki flexin’ 18s and their muscles too

[sudden tusk]

[jaunty ridge]

Priory 15

[sudden tusk]

[silver tapir]

FDK nappin?

[jaunty ridge]

Doing his best

[storm birch]

I did an update when slayer came out. There was one thing I wasn’t aware of that I never mentioned and that’s that you should probably cast bloodthirst in a new pack if you don’t have BS to reap and try to build overwhelm stacks. I tried to release it asap and actually didn’t know that was useful info. Everything else was updated tho

[storm birch]

[olive wraith]

You the dude

Ya I can see how mentioning the bt scenario could lead to some confusion for newer fury

[hidden sinew]

should i be pressing raging blow over rampage to fish for reap the storm

[wheat terrace]

Should i use DS for m+ sim? Or pw 5 targets ect?

[storm birch]

I wanna push higher but the fam and work got me so busy!! Back in the day I’d be slamming keys 12 hours a day 🤣🤣🤣

[storm birch]

Yea it’s def useful but if you do a good enough job lining up bladestorms it’s a decently rare piece of knowledge to have. And like you said, for those trying to learn it’d prolly just add a layer of complexity that isn’t really needed

[olive wraith]

I just use st sims and then vibe with diff trinks

[olive wraith]

I advocate for following the prio

Some people rb>all unless you need to enrage

[storm birch]

In very big packs I’ve been finding myself using raging blow even when fully capped on rage

But smaller packs I def send rampage above 115 rage

[hidden sinew]

so is the prio raging blow or rampage sorry lol

[storm birch]

And after bladestorm in AoE and single target I always RB until I have no more enrage then rampage (or if I hit 5 RB in a row)

[olive wraith]

Wowhead says to ramp at 115 rage

Some feely craft says it’s better on large pulls to prio rb

[hidden sinew]

cause i just did my best dps in a dungeon ever and i def focused on hitting rb atleast twice before i rampaged and that def shot my number up by a good bit

makes sense

is there a way to make a weak aura for an alert to go off at 115 rage?

[storm birch]

Hm not sure

You usually just get the rhythm down

[sudden tusk]

you can make a weakaura for everything but i would hesitate to do so

[storm birch]

But yea big aoe I’ve def been over capping more often than not and my dmg has went up. But as far as what’s optimal Id follow the prio that was published

[olive wraith]

I’m not a wa wizard but I think you can make a resource wa to do something at 115 rage

[storm birch]

From there feel it out for what feels best for you

[sudden tusk]

you will assuradly be stunting your personal growth as a player by making things that just tell you what to do

i just hard pad in aoe

ignore execute and SD and just prio keeping enraged/sending RB

[olive wraith]

But the kachings

[storm birch]

I just like my brain fuzzies when a reap happens so I just spam RB

🤣

[sudden tusk]

i think at a certain target count its better to RB over every other button while enraged im just not sure of when that is

[storm birch]

1st pull gambit fs fs

[coarse pond]

can anyone tell me why my Reap damage is kinda low? im seeing reap get up to 24-25% on some. everything else in my break down seems to be the same

[olive wraith]

What key

[coarse pond]

ara 12 archon is showing this if its accurate

[olive wraith]

Were you guys pulling relatively small?

[coarse pond]

usual pulls

[sudden tusk]

pull size. key level and class compesition are all big tells

what other classes did you play with

12 is still relativly low for how much damage is possible

[olive wraith]

Did you have bs available at the start of each pull

[coarse pond]

fearl and demo dps

fearl

[sudden tusk]

yeah feral is going to eat everthing alive in CDs

[coarse pond]

feral**

[sudden tusk]

so your overall and reap damage will be lower

[molten valley]

What is the best race for a warrior in a raid?

[coarse pond]

ahh that makes sense

[sudden tusk]

in a higher key where their CDs run out and their damage falls off its better for us

[olive wraith]

Just checking though. You had bs available at the start of every pull?

[olive wraith]

Doesn’t really matter

[sudden tusk]

but in the 15 kara i did the feral was peaking over 30 mil

[olive wraith]

Bloodmallet has some with bis gear and all racial though

[sudden tusk]

but i still did more overall damage becuase we have no burst

[coarse pond]

oh not sure if i had it on every pull, had it on most

[olive wraith]

If you don’t have bs at the start that’s gonnna hurt your reaps

[coarse pond]

is that mostly because of overwhelm stacks?

[olive wraith]

Yes

No stacks no reaps from rb

[hardy vault]

Hey ! I have plexus and arakara trinket, both 723. In M+, shoud i use cursed idole 710 or keep my trinkets ?

[coarse pond]

what are the effective cds approx on bs and reck?

[olive wraith]

Gonna depend if you hit exe or not

Reck is like 45d ish

[coarse pond]

ok, thanks

[storm birch]

What level keys are you runnin

[hardy vault]

14-15

[storm birch]

I would do a combo sim of 1 boss and 5 bosses with both and see where it all comes out. If you want more boss damage from ST use arcanocore. If you want more add pack dmg and bigger CD window use CSI. Dungeon to dungeon will be diff. Dungeons with 3 bosses like priory id consider CSI. Dungeons like streets id prolly lean toward arcanocore. Hope that helps.

@hardy vault

[hardy vault]

thanks a lot !

[storm birch]

🫡

[signal falcon]

Man this is the most I’ve enjoyed Fury in a while

Even though the gameplay hasn’t changed much

The psychological weight of not seeing your damage cap out way lower than everyone else in big pulls is huge

And the machine gun Execute procs are great too

Probably the best Execute has ever felt to press

[olive wraith]

Probably cap

[coarse pond]

its not even an execute anymore

[signal falcon]

Who cares

WA light up and big number appear

[coarse pond]

who cares, i have numbers turned off

[signal falcon]

Really?

[coarse pond]

seeing things more important

[olive wraith]

Which expansion had that execute video

[worn rain]

def cap, legion jug execute was the best

[signal falcon]

Damage numbers in games are like the best eye candy

[worn rain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hMqvb8QiUk

[feral ivy]

i turned off my damage numbers showing while i hit something.. how do i turn it back on

[wary fjord]

that

is the best execute feeling

[gilded pawn]

what about the feeling of not doing damage outside of execute

[wary fjord]

still feels good that execute is good to press

[gilded pawn]

or the feeling of getting a mech

and jugg falls off

[summer quail]

legion execute sucked ass. rose tinted glasses

[gilded pawn]

you know

[wary fjord]

hey, we are talking about pressing execute feeling good, not the whole playstyle

[worn rain]

was overall execute mechanics top notch? no

[gilded pawn]

im impressed that this video has only been linked once this month

thats impressive

and thats the first time

[worn rain]

was it most fun to press? yes

[summer quail]

that video has done irreparable damage

[olive wraith]

the real fury execute

[dapper goblet]

madox for yellow

[bitter palm]

this video did irreparable damage to warriors

people legit goon to this video thinking this gameplay is somehow sick

ye bro love when the boss does a mechanic and ur 60 stacks are just gone

and u do 0 damage for the rest of fight

love when i do 0 dmg to all bosses but the last 2 and that depends on mechanics

(all last 2 bosses have crazy mechanics and usually some downtime as well)

the reality is that u would be tuned around having 40 stacks or so

[gilded pawn]

the reality is that SD would be dogshit

if jugg stacked this high

[bitter palm]

i mean if we are talking about legion fury we assume its the same design ye

its literally rampage with a diff icon that stacks to 99 and does infinite damage once stacked

(u will never stack it to anything meaningful with modern boss design)

[heavy sparrow]

Execute is very undewhelming, but slayer does make up for it

Slayer execute is more or less how i would expect execute to be

[cedar tulip]

What target count do you use whirlwind in m+?

[gilded pawn]

2

[bitter palm]

2+

[heavy sparrow]

Huh, always?

[bitter palm]

the moment there are more than 1 target

[heavy sparrow]

I mean how are you gonna aoe otherwise

[bitter palm]

high roll reap

[heavy sparrow]

Yea but hitting more targets gives you a way higher chance to proc reap

[bitter palm]

ye ik im just chatting

[bitter palm]

wish there was even more emphasis on it

such as sd proccing reap or something

[cedar tulip]

Thanks, I figured that was the case

[heavy sparrow]

Yes

I also think that execute should proc reap, at least sd exe

[bitter palm]

then tune reap into infinity

[gilded pawn]

theres already a lot of reaping going on

you dont need every gcd to be reaping

[heavy sparrow]

Would work in a similar way to arms 3rd tier set in df

[bitter palm]

ye thats current fury xdd

[gilded pawn]

like 60% of your gcds proc reap now

[bitter palm]

sd reap would proc a lot less and u would spam sd which is good

how it should be

[gilded pawn]

yeah i would say id rather have SD reap than RB reap

and SD reap be a bit stronger

[bitter palm]

then tune sd reap into infinity for arms

[heavy sparrow]

This reminded me that i actually really liked the arms s3 df tier set

[static rock]

Hey, why is it that some CDs reset when you wipe on a boss, but others don't? like some classes' 1.5 minute CDs reset, but ours dont?

[cedar tulip]

Is it generally true that we only care about chaining several raging blows together after bladestorm?

[storm birch]

I actualy do like current sudden death usage. I enjoy the slayer strike extra damage for prio and the proc frequency is pretty decent. That coupled with the CDR for bladestorm makes it feel pretty good for me to press SD. Pressing regular execute is meh

Plus SD gives some healing even though it’s not a ton so that’s cool too

[bitter palm]

man death drive got murdered

i was hyped for arms

imagine the healing from insane executes

[storm birch]

Yea I enjoy it during big heal checks like popping stars in gambit for last boss. I take the healing into like consideration depending on how my healer is doing and my defensives. It’s not a lot but I’d rather use that than impending victory if I don’t really need to waste a global on IV

But ofc IV heals waaaay more haha

[azure mesa]

Does the slayer m+ build work if you dont have any tier

[olive wraith]

Kinda. You need to grab extra bt talents

And prio bt in aoe

[red berry]

is thane still the play on soul hunters lmao

[marble ruin]

Hitting queue simulator for keys, send help

[marble ruin]

I can't even hit that, not in a key

[storm birch]

On lorrgs all top parses are slayer

[earnest canyon]

we can do my +2 if u want

[storm birch]

Thane easier to execute at a decent level but proc dependent. Slayer pumps on them. Thunder blast a bit easier to hit them if your tanks struggle to keep the 3 together

[noble cliff]

researching mid raid?

respect

[red berry]

cop

[feral ivy]

what is the loot pool that the mythic deathless run give

[sudden tusk]

just taz loot

solid items in there tho

[rocky locust]

What do you do when you get Gluttony on you when fighting The Grand Menagerie in STRT? Do you get off the boss and run around collecting orbs? Do you stay on the boss and try to grab orbs as they pass by? Something else?
Whatever I do when I get Gluttony, I feel like it's wrong.

[misty edge]

madox for yellow

[prime bane]

if your stats looked like this entirely unbuffed, what food would you use?

[sudden tusk]

apook for WHO?

[quick dock]

Strength food

[olive wraith]

Whatever simmed the highest

[prime bane]

idk how to sim foods all at once

i'd have to do a separate sim for each food lol

[earnest canyon]

eat all the cakes

[prime bane]

did you know your lips do not touch each other until you count to 1 million

[narrow kiln]

do we use reck on cd or save for avatar

[noble cliff]

🚓

[prime bane]

i use it on cooldown else i have noidea wh y i have talents to lower the cd

[quiet breach]

on cd

[narrow kiln]

holy shit ive been trolling this whole tier then

im used to playing reckless abondon and having an avatar/reck macro

[silver tapir]

No way am I losing uptime. I just rotate around the target to clean as much as I can

[earnest canyon]

I cant count more than 7 cos I run out of fingers on one hand

[olive wraith]

The orbs give damage buff btw

[mild ravine]

You can still use it, it'll just pop reck whenever avatar is on CD and vice versa

[prime bane]

yeah i still use the macro lol

just makes it easier

at th e start of a fight it will pop both

but then as the fight goes i just press the same button for whichever comes off cd

[earnest canyon]

I asked you before, but you just ignored me like you always do:

Did you buy Monkey DLC?

[olive wraith]

I didn’t even see lol

No

I’m waiting a bit

[earnest canyon]

apparently its on the store, but I haven't charged my switch 2 in like 2 weeks lol

switching inputs on this monitor is a bit of a faff

[olive wraith]

Ya it’s been available since yesterday

I’m just trying to gauge if it’s enough of a dlc to pay $20

[earnest canyon]

It will not be its nintendo

They are charging $20 for a cardboard box you can put the switch to play virtual boy games

remember that cardboard robot? Nintendo labo or something? was like $50 for some cardboard and elastic bands, then a "game" some college students could have made in a weekend

[storm birch]

Alright

Poll taking time gimme your dungeon list from hardest to easiest for this season

[winter shoal]

Easiest streets, hardest priory

[storm birch]

For me prolly

Priory
Floodgate
Halls
Ara-kara
Gambit
Dawnbreaker
Streets
Eco-Dome

[prime bane]

i aint doing a full list but i hate both priory and flood gates. priory due to the paladins and if your tank goes a certain way you are just locked out of doing damage for a bit and floodgate, kinda the same thing but mainly the first pull and then that other pull with the 2 shredders

[restive peak]

Eco dome is for SURE the easiest

Gmb/Streets both easy

[prime bane]

vastly prefer gambit over streets

[modest condor]

putting dawnbreaker as easier than gambit is a take

[earnest canyon]

Lamo I got rejected from a +6....
me: Why???
Lead: Ur too high level

i wanted to practice arms

[edgy widget]

you'd be surprised how common that is

[earnest canyon]

I guess it makes sense if other people want to learn their roles too...cant tank stuff if its dead in 5secs

[prime bane]

hmmm

if i am on a tank, specifically plate. i will try to recruit high level plate wearers lol

they don't need it and can spec into prot 😄

[earnest canyon]

was monk tank, rogue...cant remember rest

oh maybe it was a leather stack

[prime bane]

possibly

there is no tank that uses mail right?

shamans should have a tank spec but whatever

[earnest canyon]

evoker should have tank spec....thats what I expected the new "secret" spec to be....a dragon tanking seemed perfect

[prime bane]

oh i'm fine with dh having another spec

i don't play them but them only having two felt weird

what could a cloth tank be

[earnest canyon]

fucking mages are already tanks

[prime bane]

well i mean actual normal tank

cleric?

[earnest canyon]

cheat death, alter time, iceblock, blink, barriers

thats pretty much paladin no?

[prime bane]

well yeah but i do thinkj there are differences

paladins are pure evil

lore wise they simply are evil

they are so righteous that anything opposing their views must die

would beneat if they brought in an oathbreaker paladin but i guess that's kinda what deathknights are

[modest condor]

í think it's pretty funny that half the tanks specs are leather and none are mail

[prime bane]

i have always thought shamans should have a tank spec. just always made sense to me

they definitely once upon a time could be tanks i think it was pre level 40? in vanilla?

enhance could work as melee

errrrr

as a tank

[olive wraith]

I think a battle mage tank would be super cool

Obviously I think Evoker/shaman could also be tanks

[storm birch]

I was considering putting dawn last tbh. I used to think it was hard but haven’t run into many issues besides orb lieutenant mostly

And the bugs ofc 🤣 like the mobs flying off into the ether 😭

[modest condor]

you must not be doing more than weekly keys then

dawnbreaker probably has the toughest bosses to heal on high keys

i would definitely put it harder than halls

[storm birch]

Yea I figured I’d see everyone’s takes at their individual key levels. At 15/16 it feels very easy. I’m sure 18’s are tough for 2nd and 3rd boss dmg

Halls I find harder because of mob control unless you just perma bring a dk but that’s just been my experience

[sullen tendon]

i always end up having priory left to do for each bracket

same thing happened last season

priory is just consistenty cancer

[modest condor]

having to do the interrupt miniboss on the first boss made the dungeon 10x more cancer

the change to the boss as well

[sullen tendon]

i have no fucking clue why pug tanks insist on going right everytime now

if you cant survive tank busters or aoe damage at that key level then stop tanking

like 17s 18s

all dps have to do is pop a defensive every 45 seconds

as opposed to overlapping kicks and then someone gets fucked in the ass by a fireball

[storm birch]

Yea I do see that right as you get above +16 for dawn the depletion rate almost double from +14 and up

Must be a big spike the amount of chunking the damage does

Ara Kara and halls are about equal in depletion so I guess it’s a toss up

[modest condor]

we were on pace to time a 16 halls today and then we had chain deaths on the miniboss and not enough time to kill the last boss

we pulled the miniboss with over 7 minutes left and pulled the last boss with 3 minutes left

[storm birch]

Dang. I’ve been piecing away at the 16’s when I have time. Got flood streets and gambit done so far. I would say floodgate was the hardest but we had so many mistakes and still easily timed it so I don’t really know

Hoping I can get a grind day in and start seeing how 17’s feel soon

Dang that mini boss is nuts on halls lmao

I love that room though it’s such a pump fest 🤣

[narrow kiln]

this fucking last boss in arakara

[storm birch]

That boss annoys me sometimes haha

I was so
Confident that I had the leap out of the suck down did it like 30 times in a row then randomly I went to leap and it just kept me in. Luckily I lived cause I popped everything but it reduces damage done by so much. Almost bricked the 15 I did. The other two bosses are super fun compared to that one

[earnest canyon]

VOID TAKE YOU ALL

[narrow kiln]

that scares me more than anything

[olive wraith]

The reflect shield hurts

[sullen tendon]

defensives

eat it and aoe

[olive wraith]

Still hurts lol

Right side feels way easier

[earnest canyon]

I dont trust myself to leap out of void....so I leapt to a pool and killed the shaman who went for the same one....he went ape shit....he insta rezzed but he stood there and wrote a paragraph of insults, including about my mother, so that tanked his dps 🤣

[storm birch]

Oh nooooo. It seemed like leaping out became more forgiving . Idk why one time out of 30 it decided to keep me in

I just leap out at 1 second every time and it works. Except once

[earnest canyon]

once is one time too many

[storm birch]

You’re not wrong. Can’t be the one bricking keys!

[olive wraith]

Honestly the last arakara boss isn’t too bad. Just leap sub 1s

Pretty forgiving

Just leap towards a path in case you miss cause it boops you a little extra

[quiet breach]

finally got cursed stone idol.

dont have to farm halls anymore

anyway i have a question, we want to use it after the pack is gathered right? because it gives strength per enemy hit

or does the amount of strength per enemy hit not matter and its better to use it in downtime before charging

it does 1.3 mill aoe as well

crit not strength

[feral egret]

All looking for a small advice on a WA, I have a button that pops up when I have no stacks of ww. But when rampage is my 4th ability, it takes half a second to update, where I'll catch myself then doing an ability with no ww.

I was thinking of macro a weakaura shoe when, ww =1, then then next ability of BT RB or rampage is spell cast success.

Any thoughts?

[dusk stirrup]

How much dps loss is single minded fury

[flat river]

much

[feral egret]

On any resource progress, bar you can just make a tick at a certain number

[dusk stirrup]

sad

[flat river]

you can still play it

as long as you don't plan on doing keys above +10

[dusk stirrup]

lmao

[junior gale]

wrong I did a 15 as SMF

[flat river]

[uneven dragon]

how much dps are the boots on mythic that proc back more

compared to no boots

[grizzled fiber]

I believe it varies with your gear, Sir. Sim it for a more accurate answer.

[uneven dragon]

I shoulda asked the difference in sim with bis gear i dont have any gear on my warrior i just plan to play it as an alt and i wont have the boots ever most likely

So it was just an in general avg %loss in optimal gear

[olive wraith]

If it’s just an alt does it really matter how much %?

[uneven dragon]

Well i'm just curious it's one of those things where i may just full send it for "alt rat keys" in like 17s and shit

I mainly tank so idk how insane the proc rate% increase in terms of dps is in general

[olive wraith]

You can top gear all the bis stuff and then swap out the boots

Not sure people have worried about calculating boots vs no boots

[uneven dragon]

Yea i assume most havent cared i just didnt wanna pay for premium to do all the simming is a big factor lol

[olive wraith]

I don’t think you need premium

[uneven dragon]

Oh ngl didnt know you could custom add all the items without premium

i havent usedi t without premium since like bfa say 1

season 1*

Alr i'll check then thank you very much

[olive wraith]

Ye. You probably just have to deselect current gear or you’ll have too many variations

[feral egret]

Question, Why does any weakaura take awhile to update, for example, WW, after rampage is casted? vs other spells

[fiery tide]

because rampage is a series of hits and ww stack is consumed by the final hit in that series

[feral egret]

Im looking for a WA to show missing WW aura on rampage cast success when only 1 stack off ww left. Any thoughts?

And ahh, that makes sense

[olive wraith]

we're getting there fam

[storm birch]

Dungeon? Nice pumps bro!!

@olive wraith

[olive wraith]

Halls

[storm birch]

Let’s goooo

[fiery tide]

I think there are some wa that use custom scripts to get rid of the delay, dont personally know anything about them or use it

[olive wraith]

Finally got a group to time it lol

I only recently got antenna. Is there a difference in the 2 antenna buffs

[radiant perch]

Istn one just indicator that there is orb and other is that u actually get crit buff? Dont have one just saw some vods 🙂

[olive wraith]

Ah maybe

[fallen ginkgo]

Just use the one from critcakes wa pack, i did the same

[feral egret]

where would i get this? Youtube?

[hardy bluff]

yes

[spring oar]

When in m+ say you have 100-120 rage is it better to do one extra raging blow if it is enraged ( you will be un enraged after the cast) into a ramp or ramp instead of the extra RB

[whole remnant]

@smoky vale

[cobalt relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413511346548379739/GIF_20250904_160623_708.gif

[clever belfry]

balls

[radiant perch]

In aoe is better to spread enraged RB with hich chance of procing reap and then use ww without enrage and ramp after

[fading sky]

Fam

Depends

If rb makes enrage falls off beforr reap goes out

Its less

Oss

[radiant perch]

Oh so its queued after? Isnt it within the cast of RB?

[dense elbow]

RB event happens, Reap even happens

goes ba-tap, woosh

[somber thicket]

There is a wa for antena shows if orb spawned and od you colected

[winter stump]

Hi, new to fury this season, when am I pressing bloodthirst? I thought since it procs reap that it would be beneficial in the aoe rotation but the guide has its priority all the way at the bottom. Do I use it only when I stack bloodcraze to 5 or is even that not worth? I'm asking for both aoe and st

[rough torrent]

very rarely, but you use it as a filler if you have nothing else to press

[steel shard]

you only press BT if you have nothing else yea

BT is bad

[rough torrent]

it's higher prio than WW

[winter stump]

even with bloodcraze at 5 stacks then?

[rough torrent]

yea

[brittle dock]

yup

[winter stump]

alrighty, thanks guys

[rough torrent]

it sits there as a guranteed crit until you have a free global

which doesnt come super often in aoe, in ST you use it a decent amount

still low prio, but it happens more since you're not using WW every 5 globals

i'll also use it to proc fresh meat if i am going into a pull w/o rage

[winter stump]

there's also this slight thing in my UI that's messing me up sometimes. whirlwind stacks only get utilized when rampage casts its last hit, is there any way possible to make the ww stack being used as soon as i press the button?

[rough torrent]

gotta just get a dif kit i think

i noticed that initially too

luxthos kit works as far as i can tell

[winter stump]

does it? alright i'll implement it into mine

thanks guys, you're all the best ❤️

[rough torrent]

gl

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/amma-cat-ts-js-pmo-icl-pmo-cat-gif-9038313483801766180

[oblique trail]

Bannable offense

[warm umbra]

how does stone idol work during reck

[south kayak]

Wdym?

[cobalt relic]

u cast it before avatar @warm umbra

[vivid dune]

do you just pop avatar and reck at the same time to get an even longer buff? or try to stagger them

[lapis shadow]

Pop both

[vivid dune]

ty

[late stratus]

What class weakaura is good in this seaso n?

Been using naow's alongside elvui, but i wanna move away from elvui so i want to find another class pack

[lilac kettle]

I'm using luxthos. The newer version (from DF) lacks the customization of the old one, but it looks simpler and cleaner

[tall sorrel]

This prob a dumb question but when should i cast bloodthirst on ST and AoE/m+? Am playing slayer on both ST and m+

[late stratus]

Never

/nothing else to press

[tall sorrel]

Even when its max stacks?

[late stratus]

Some people use it to "fish" for stacks for reap procs, but u should always have bladestorm for that anyways

Yes remove that tracker

its useless

[tall sorrel]

Is it the same for pure ST in raids?

[vivid dune]

short question, with the 4piece do you still use bladestorm asap with like 3-5 stacks or do you hold bladestorm to just reap the storm all the time?

[iron portal]

What stacks are you refering to?

[vivid dune]

or am I misunderstanding something

[late stratus]

yes

[iron portal]

You send BS asap, it builds OVerwhelmed stacks onto everything it hits

[vivid dune]

oh I guess there was a misunderstanding from me myb

[late stratus]

overwhelmed

[iron portal]

YOu would never hold BS for that

[sand crest]

what you might've misunderstood is, you want to hold BS if you wont have it back by the next pack

cause in that case ur forced to press bt to start building some overwhelmed stacks

and it kinda just suckls

otherwise you want to send BS on cd

[odd rune]

question as i am trying out Slayer some more since the changes, the set bonus with RB causing Reap, should you bother with spreading raging blow with whirlwind or do you just whirlwind for rampage and execute?

[iron portal]

You always spread all abilities in aoe

So always have WW stacks ready

[uneven path]

Well since chang was that 4p now works on multiple enemies I would say you bother with ww for RB

[iron portal]

That is fundemental

+what Laazy say, REAP procs now more likely in aoe if targets have OW stacks on them and you hit multiple targets

up to 67% chance

[odd rune]

gotcha, cheers

[uneven path]

👍

[odd rune]

i wish the whirlwind buff was based on a timer instead of stacks, rotation gets kinda tedious imo

[vague copper]

Mhmm

Sweeping is king compared to WW 😛

[gleaming siren]

start dancing

[warm wharf]

Just copy hunter beast cleave instead of stacks would be so much better

[gusty cloak]

Desiheat #11 warrior NA

incredible

[brittle dock]

Just think, it could be like MM hunter and only last for one attack.

[warm wharf]

Did they make it that bad now? Haven't played mm in a while

[proven urchin]

Hello

[warm wharf]

I just remember old one where multi-shot gave you 5 seconds of aoe

[plush zephyr]

Swapping between nameplates as melee isn’t as easy as swapping as a hunter chilling 20 yds away in a recliner

[lapis shadow]

What, you dont enjoy pressing RB RB RB Rampage WW or RB RB Exec Proc Rampage????

[odd rune]

hahaha it's fine enough, but would be a hell of a lot more smooda if you didn't have to do that 😄

[lapis shadow]

Honestly ill take it.... Whirlwhind > Frontal Cone Cleave arms

[fathom cedar]

I crafted a 2H weapon at 720. Shouldn't this allow me to upgrade my other hero weapon to max without spending crests? It doesn't atm

[rose swift]

Does whirlwind just hit stuff around you including behind you? I fear I've been worrying about my positioning far too much if that's the case lmao

As in the cleaves from the stacks

[trim hound]

Relog fixes it

[lapis shadow]

Yes its like a circle

[lapis shadow]

For me was, swap to arms

Log out and in

back to fury and it should work

[fathom cedar]

Ah thanks guys. I just logged out, will check later

[rose swift]

Thats a lot of mental load i can just forget about now during pulls lmao

[plush zephyr]

Bro ain’t no way

[lapis shadow]

Many way

[molten dune]

What cd should i tie my on use trinkets to?

[radiant plank]

avatar

[plush compass]

had a funny as fuck interaction with charge on mythic salad man tonight was so confused charge just sent me towards teh edge past the add thought i was a goner for sure

[brittle tendon]

if i only play mythic + should i still craft ascension embellishment?

[inner zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[hidden sinew]

is the storage container really still bis? farover still uses it

[fading sky]

What

Is that

[lapis shadow]

Azure Devops storage container?

[hidden sinew]

durable info storage container the waist.

[lapis shadow]

Ahh

yes its still very good until next patch release

[hidden sinew]

is there gonna be a s4? i thought s3 was it

[lapis shadow]

Probably sim if you have a 723 Mythic belt

[lapis shadow]

Not S4 but more like Turbo boost, plus they will nerf it in the .5 patch

1 sec let me find the wowhead article

[fading sky]

If u get mythic.belt in vault

Take it

0.5 nerfs delve belt

[hidden sinew]

gotchya i dont have either literally almost all hero geared and im stuck with and adventurer belt still lmao. i missed s2. i just didnt know what should prio at this point

[lapis shadow]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/manaforge-omega-belts-arent-useless-anymore-delve-belt-nerfs-imminent-378417

[quiet breach]

yea

[quiet breach]

710 belt with a socket is roughly equivalent

[lapis shadow]

Yeah I have that atm

[quiet breach]

if you are talking about cursed stone idol, none

altho u should use it at the same time as avatar

don't macro it with it tho

[twilit harbor]

i assume crafted belt is the way to go next week? although ring/neck seems pretty good consider the BiS belt is available from soulbinder or even catalyst if you have a spare charge

[smoky vale]

belt will be better when you can use 2 mythic weapons so you can swap to double duskthread

[hardy bluff]

probably depends on what you already crafted but rings/neck/belt/offpiece are good options

[gaunt loom]

kpop demon hunters

[grave sky]

https://tenor.com/view/skate-kanji-cat-gif-18361256103636562809

[plush zephyr]

Idk why but on my other toons the belt has gotten beaten out by champ belts

A mythic belt is barely an upgrade on my main warr though

[molten dune]

ohh i see, ty 🙂

[outer moss]

I found the wowhead guide a bit confusing. Do I want to use Ascendance + Armor Banding or Dawnthread?

I do M+ 99% of the time

[stray sentinel]

Usually dawnthread ia better for m+ .. unless tank is pulling with no downtime

[outer moss]

Cheers man

[ornate gust]

In Dawnbreaker dungeon, the game play a very loud sound when this message appears (it is after killing the 2nd pack). Does anyone know how to tune that sound?

[chilly fractal]

Is it waking up the house

[ornate gust]

yes

it is sooooo loud

[ornate gust]

Are we meta now? 😮

[radiant plank]

Yes

[hidden sinew]

so is sac and stone idol meta for m+

[bitter palm]

idol + some good passive

sac is a good passive

antenna prolly better

[radiant plank]

If a fury warriors RIO page can look like this I would say that it is very much meta

[bitter palm]

nono

its weak and bad

and no utility

if only we had lust....

[radiant plank]

[hidden sinew]

i just want KSL

[radiant plank]

Imagine if we had lust Farover would have all the R1 keys!

[hidden sinew]

3k me boi

[radiant plank]

You could get 3k on any spec in the game regardless of how the general playerbase sees your spec

[hidden sinew]

true im just not there yet. im just now breaking 700 ilvl, id like to be atleast 710 before i start pushing 12's or higher.

also for valor stone sake is there a certain key level thats best for farming stones? like i know 7 is the gilded farm

[devout totem]

12 is the "best" if u can run them

[marble ruin]

I wish we had lust

[hidden sinew]

i just wish whirlwind cleave didnt have a target limit

wed be meta rn

nothing will ever beat legion fury tho

[whole remnant]

🖕

[lapis shadow]

D:

[hushed gust]

T.Blast and Reap are our current ways around WW’s target cap… outside of whatever burst we’re allowed to have. I still think Blizz was a dumbass for taking away the potency of our damaging CD’s.

[earnest canyon]

No class that can tank should have lust

[hushed gust]

But yeah- currently pushing 3.1k, hoping to reach 3.3k, maybe 3.4k by the end of the season? Given the time frame, I think I got it. Just need to keep good pace and get it done earlier than the last week of the season. Couldn’t get my 15 Priory done last season because I procrastinated a couple times.

[earnest canyon]

I believe in you captain canary. With a name like that there is no way you can fail.

[quiet breach]

ravager bladestorm roar spear odyns fury are all also softcapped

[uneven plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/persona5-morgana-romantic-flowers-gif-23514989

https://tenor.com/view/persona5-morgana-romantic-flowers-gif-23514989

[whole remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-overwatch2-overwatch-mei-mei-mei-overwatch-gif-7600058383591953246

https://tenor.com/view/persona5-morgana-romantic-flowers-gif-23514989

[smoky vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1404622059853582357/1416696367954399293/image.png?ex=68c7c8cf&is=68c6774f&hm=04f0f692db5b8e2408f9b6b83ff60d5553b249170df2340275bb062e2f40ac32&

@bitter palm @radiant plank @young swan @junior gale @pulsar quest help me get 3k

pauck

cease

[whole remnant]

wow you are so gooooooooooood omomgomg blushes aaaaaah giiioooo !!!! you get me all excitedddd!!!! 🤩🤩🤩🥰 ❤️❤️❤️🥹🥹🥹🥰🥰🥰

[earnest canyon]

Roidney is it true you have 4k raider io score in the World of Warcraft™

[chilly fractal]

Tfw your key keeps upgrading into the same 2 keys

[earnest canyon]

I think he just likes hanging around back alleys

[whole remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-young-man-youngman-have-a-great-day-gif-9177715154218768625

[fickle cedar]

can you charge/jump on fractillius on break ?

[warm crag]

you can leap ye

timing is iffy but you can have 100% uptime on that boss

[mild coral]

how do u parse good on Mythic Forgeweaver?

[smoky vale]

have everyone afk

[mild coral]

[earnest canyon]

🤣

[mild coral]

I dont quite understand it

[smoky vale]

afk more

and have everyone only hit boss

[mild coral]

sometimes same number and more add padding I get blue parse

[smoky vale]

kill time moemnt

[warm crag]

92 is good ya

[modest condor]

except for the top 10 keys those are all 2 weeks old as well

they just had their first real push since before the fury fix and they instantly got 2 rank 1s and a rank 2

[iron portal]

Timed 15 Dawn, couldnt catch up to MM

[modest condor]

skill issue

[floral bay]

is there a target amount in bigger pulls where it's +EV to prioritize spamming raging blow and overcap rage for reap the storm procs as slayer, versus using rampage

[iron portal]

True

[modest condor]

idk what +EV means but prioritising raging blow or rampage doesnt really make a difference on aoe

[earnest canyon]

that mm was me

[modest condor]

prio raging blow means more reap procs, prio rampage means more reck uptime and bladestorms

in the end it evens out

[floral bay]

same goes for cleave fights in forge mythic ye?

Im on araz currently

and thanks

[iron portal]

Surely

[earnest canyon]

not really its a 15....im just about putting my pinky toe into 13s but it takes forever to get a grp

[serene oar]

are you able to leap over the stars on nexus without taking dmg or does that not work?

[chilly fractal]

What if the real MMs were the friends we made along the way

[meager gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-back-we-are-getting-doug-back-we-are-back-gif-1666356383831166652

[earnest canyon]

MM has no friends cos BM took them all as pets

Im gonna rename my llama to Mobbo

[cobalt relic]

bis?

[frank dawn]

it's really good in raid, not that great in M+

[cobalt relic]

aighty

[dense elbow]

Fury buffs when, blizzard?

[earnest canyon]

666,the mark of the beast

[dense elbow]

Also, sidenote:

not too shabby

LFR version even

[river blaze]

just timed 16 Dawn, MM couldn't catch up

[dense elbow]

Tell him to go BM

it just hits differently

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[river blaze]

maybe you could have done 12m if you played better ?

[dense elbow]

Maybe he could done 14m, if tank pulled better

https://tenor.com/view/angy-cat-cute-angry-judging-gif-5664908679004854891

[iron portal]

Mine was just better than yours

[cedar tulip]

In logs I’m seeing bloodthirst being spammed after bladestorm. That’s just used during bladestorm right? Then follow that with raging blow spam for a big rampage?

How do you know how many raging blows to cast after bladestorm? My enrage seems to fall off if I get too many procs of raging blow

[warm crag]

you are looking at unhinged bloodthirst casts during bladestorm ye

[warm crag]

you just press rb until you run out of rb or enrage

[cedar tulip]

So it is ok to let enrage fall for a second before you rampage?

[cedar tulip]

ahh I see so that’s just the talent? I’m not at my pc I couldn’t remember if bloodthirst was castable while in bladestorm like storm bolt

[warm crag]

technically yes ish but with frenzied enrage you'd lose the haste while youre not enraged so its a bit iffy

[dense elbow]

play OF - WW, Ramp, BS, RB RB RB OF RB RB Ramp

play OS - WW OS BS RB RB Ramp

[outer moss]

According to WoWhead guide it's recommended to craft Wep > Bracers > Belt. Why not offhand?

[dense elbow]

weapon goes into offhand when you get your mythic track main weap

[outer moss]

But if I don't get it xD

But ye, I get it. Thanks for the answer

[warm crag]

you can sim whether crafting an offhand is worth it for you

for "most", grabbing a 2h from the vault or from killing forgeweaver is pretty consistent, literally only fury warriors should be ever given that 2h

[eternal sundial]

@warm cragspmgis why does it kaching

so much

[dense elbow]

cause you didnt change it to mew, ya nob

[smoky vale]

@warm crag hi pookie

[solemn plover]

@warm crag hey can i ban that gio57 guy

[warm crag]

you are my creation you can do as you wish

[solemn plover]

He will be killed.

[outer moss]

The dream. But I quit raiding years ago

[smoky vale]

D:

[feral parcel]

Hey guys what are some consumables I can use in keys? I’m new to fury and wanted to know if there are any I should be using

[smoky vale]

food flask

[feral parcel]

Ty

[sullen spoke]

Sorry if this is covered somewhere else, but for fury should I hold bladestorm til reck is also up? or send both on cd until they are both up with avatar and roar?

[dense elbow]

• food
• flask
• health potion
  (very much so optional)
• weapon oils
• combat potion

[hushed gust]

Nah. Let her rip. Just get a feel for holding a BS for next pack in dungeons.

[feral parcel]

Thank you I appreciate this. 🙏

[hollow leaf]

unless they're like < 10s to line up you just send

[sullen spoke]

ty gamers

[flat river]

this is dark ranger or

[earnest canyon]

will probs be PL no Multi build

it has great prio damage but mobs need to live a long time

[modest condor]

thought i'd be nice and invite some lower io players to my key since it's resil anyway, clean run and we didnt even time it

guess im not doing that again

[earnest canyon]

what was the dps like? usually its deaths that brick a key at that level no? cos everyone is geared

[modest condor]

8.5mil, 7.6mil and 6.9mil

[pulsar quest]

Unless ur not in it every week so it goes to the prot warrior for off spec

xd

[earnest canyon]

was it an 18 lol

[modest condor]

no a 14

[fading sky]

Dr. Bm is insaaane

But ofc also very hard to play🤣

[fading sky]

Route must have been horrid?

[modest condor]

tank split some pulls in 2, and people were really bad with what target to prio

[earnest canyon]

what dungeon was it

[modest condor]

was a floodgate, people werent prioing the architects, like in the 3rd (usually 2nd) pull, the pack was tanked out of melee range of the architect so it just stood on the construction for like 30 seconds before it came down

and then they still didnt prio it

[earnest canyon]

lol

[warm crag]

does your guild categorically not want to gear you or

like you are being sabotaged

[modest condor]

also the pull that's usually before big momma with the 3 snipers and the demolistionist, again not tanking the trash on top of the demo so when the rest was dead it was still at 70%

another 40 seconds wasted singletargeting a mob down

we even had a dk who could have just gripped it into the pack but he didnt

[earnest canyon]

why didnt u unload the "DK AER U NOOB? GRIP MOB FFS!"

[pulsar quest]

who knows

we have 2 frost DKs and a ret so I’m just last string melee ig

[warm crag]

you are the only one who should get it

[undone flower]

I think they don’t plan on slotting you often

[warm crag]

they all craft mythic 2h

[pulsar quest]

Yeah well I’m never in on the fight

Even for last few weeks reclear

[undone flower]

Have you progged a fight ? Like fractilus ?

[pulsar quest]

Well considering I’m our only dps warrior and I’m out for 4/7 bosses so far on prog I’m assuming I just won’t be I

In

I was in for loom, soul binder, fract

And we are on nexus

I’m our only dps warrior also

Main tank is playing prot so he’s the buff

[undone flower]

Okok, maybe they don’t plan to slot you on dimensius too

[pulsar quest]

Brother if im not in for dimensius im crashing out hard

[warm crag]

you will not be in for dimensius lol

[pulsar quest]

If I literally don’t get to prog any of the hard bosses as our only dps warrior this season I’m figuring something else out

[undone flower]

I think spongie see the future

[warm crag]

benching the literal only person who can make use of the mythic 2h from forgeweaver is a literal direct sign that they have quite literally no intention to play you

[pulsar quest]

Look if we were like a top 50 us guild or something I understand sticking to strict comps

[chilly fractal]

Reading what you’ve said… it’s like a 99% chance you are benched Dimmy

[pulsar quest]

Yeah lol

[undone flower]

Unless prot nerfs

[pulsar quest]

Guess I should’ve rerolled like our other warrior to frost dk this season

[warm crag]

you should find a new guild

[undone flower]

Or you magically beat the shit out of everyone in a random reclear

[chilly fractal]

The 1% is your guild is making their rosters based off pure RNG and your luck sucks enough for it to be a 1% chance

[pulsar quest]

I don’t think beating anybody on reclear is possible at this point

Like im parsing well dont get me wrong

You can look me up easily

And I have died collectively in the entirety of prog 1 time

But I’m not slapping 99s until I get a few more items

[chilly fractal]

None of us here are going to convince your guild to put you in

[pulsar quest]

I don’t need anybody to convince them lol

[outer rover]

hey. i got destroyed by another fury warrior in a 13 halls. he played with reckless abandon and did 10mio overall. is this normal xD

[undone flower]

Loboz ????

[outer rover]

y

[undone flower]

Another victim mogged by Loboz

[outer rover]

bro wtf

crazy damage

[olive wraith]

With RA you have a little bit more burst

Maybe he just padded the little guys

[warm crag]

get cooked lmao

another loboz victim @clever belfry

[undone flower]

• I feel like you have more RA value if you play the prio RB>Rampage at 115

[chilly fractal]

Tbh if I were you… I’d talk with your GM/Raid Lead/Officers about your concerns

Or talk to your Warrior tank and convince him to play something else or you will DDoS him

[olive wraith]

Ya fair. If you’re not casting ramp you will lose AM value

[clever belfry]

lobozspec

[chilly fractal]

DDoS him for a raid spot is how that one dude in Limit taught us in Legion

[undone flower]

After mogging every raider on soulbinder with his RA build, he is back in m+, I need to sound the alarm

[chilly fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/weewoo-patrick-star-siren-gif-15363908

[undone flower]

https://tenor.com/view/lott-beacons-gif-18004271

[cobalt relic]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[jolly mist]

do i just run the OF build with 2p only?

or just play thane

[willow jay]

hey folks, just started nexus king prog today. Realised you can SR Fractal Claw from the images at the edge... I was not able to confirm the dmg through logs.. anybody has some insights if this actually works?

[plush zephyr]

Yes it works

[plush zephyr]

I’d probably just run thane yeah

[willow jay]

but it's not counting in logs right?

[bitter palm]

slayer without 4p slayer with 4p

it is what it is

thane without 4p isnt a spec

[jolly mist]

yea ic

[chilly fractal]

Fun fact this is how they communicate election results from small remote towns in Alaska

Not actually true but I like to imagine it is

[undone flower]

They light beacon fires for election and praise watermelon statues

[dense elbow]

That melon is out of date bro

dont eat it

[chilly fractal]

Can only imagine prices these days

But for real though… who tf buying that

[undone flower]

Yeah it was a random talk in monk discord a while ago, it turned into a debate on how many homing pigeons you need to carry a watermelon to Alaska

(It was 128 pigeons)

[novel brook]

For Slayer (AOE & ST rotation), when coming out of bladestorm, I understand you want to RB as many times as possible even overcapping rage if possible given if you're proccing the additional RBs to buff Rampage.... My question is do you spam the 5 RBs even if you're outside of enrage buff? Can you even get 5 RBs in before enrage falls off?

[undone flower]

it’s until you can’t rb or lose enrage or you reach 5 stacks SS

[novel brook]

Thank you!

I can't see how you can get 5 RBs in and remain enraged through it

[undone flower]

Don’t forget whirlwind stacks is more important too

[undone flower]

It can happen but very rarely

[novel brook]

ww, rampage, BS, RB RB RB, rampage

and thats even if you get 3, but thats if you're doing AOE

[undone flower]

Or if you pressed rb before your bladestorm, you can have some SS stacks

[novel brook]

single target is same but without the WW stack

[novel brook]

which would make more sense on ST?

[undone flower]

No because whirlwind every 4 spells

On this example you gave you consume your boosted rampage without cleaving it

[novel brook]

ahh thats right it would be - WW, rampage, BS, RBx2, rampage

makes sense

[undone flower]

It happens whatever you do / you don’t necessarily need to rampage before bs if you are already enraged + play deft points

[novel brook]

I just cant see getting 5 stacks slaughtering strikes within enrage

so thats whats hurting me atm, ive been getting the RBx5 but enrage would fall off

[iron portal]

It is possible but unlikely

And you are not supposed to get it everytime

[novel brook]

no matter what i have to remain inside the enrage timer

[undone flower]

It hurts you only if you pressed an unenraged RB

[novel brook]

I've been doing that a lot recently

[olive wraith]

so

[novel brook]

I have to change this up

[iron portal]

Your dps isnt worse just cause you cant get to 5 stacks every time trust me

[olive wraith]

bm has a kick right?

[iron portal]

Not the ones I played with

[novel brook]

I'm hurting myself by doing DPS outside of enrage

[iron portal]

Then why do you do it

[undone flower]

He needs my kick macro

[iron portal]

I don´t get it

[olive wraith]

0 kicks ina flood

sham only has 1

wtf

[novel brook]

I thought we had to spam all the RB's after BS even outside of enrage for buffed rampage

I was wrong

[iron portal]

You were indeed

You misunderstood priority

[novel brook]

now it all makes sense

[undone flower]

You really need to understand how to read a wowhead rotation / everything above the line with the rb spam, you do it over it

You read it like an algorithm, each time you press a button, you return to the top and redo the checks

[keen tree]

Is this good on fury?

[polar narwhal]

Yes

[storm birch]

Yea not worth it to let enrage drop off

[potent citrus]

How do you get good at interrupting

swear I can only manage like 10 successful it's really bad

[mental obsidian]

guys this trinket from hoa idol
should i put it in macro with my bursts or manually better ?

[iron portal]

The fact we can interupt in BS helps

[iron portal]

Kinda awkward to use with macro

I rather have separate bind

[mental obsidian]

so separate button before bursts

ok tyvm

[smoky vale]

make mouseover focus macro

and add focus kick macro

[undone flower]

Good at interrupting = people use focus macros + automarker

[smoky vale]

go into every pack focusing a guy

and kick on cd

[undone flower]

You can even have a stormbolt focusing the guy

[potent citrus]

focus kick macro?

[undone flower]

Yep, I use one in combination with my random kick macro

[potent citrus]

I have been playing this game for 2 weeks I have no clue what that is

[vague thicket]

Also tabing while a mob is casting (if you don’t have it targeted) it will auto target the casting mob

[undone flower]

Oh my bad, you can focus a target, it puts it in a separate frame from your target

[potent citrus]

yeah that's helpful but it does sometimes target wrong thing

[undone flower]

You can then create a macro casting spells on the focus

[potent citrus]

hitting the pld casting sacred toll over the priest doing greater heal

[undone flower]

So you don’t have to select the focused target at any point to cast on it

[potent citrus]

oh that's really helpful

yeah I'll get one of those setup then

[vague thicket]

Yeah just a quick solution (divers in floodgate come to mind) not ideal for sure

[smoky vale]

i can give you one in a moment

[potent citrus]

Thanks

how bads heroic dimensius on fury btw, I got nexus king down but that kill had literally one person left alive at the end

[young swan]

not hard for us specifically

p1 is kinda cringe

[smoky vale]

#showtooltip
/cast [@focus] Counterspell
/cast [@focus] Pummel
/cast [@focus] Mind Freeze
/cast [@focus] Quell
/cast [@focus] Wind Shear
----
/clearfocus
/focus [target=mouseover,exists]; target
/run if not GetRaidTargetIndex("focus") then SetRaidTarget("focus",7) end

[plush zephyr]

Plater with Jundies profile helps

[potent citrus]

yeah I got that but getting the target was the struggle

thanks for the macro that should help

[smoky vale]

that is 2 macros

need 2 keybinds

[serene socket]

Is second macro: focus mouse over, else if no mouse over focus target? What's the "run if not getraidtargetindex" section about?

[smoky vale]

setting a marker and if it already has a marker do nothing

[simple mural]

Is this true? Never noticed this

[serene socket]

Oh I didn't realize this either. That's kind of huge

[ruby hare]

Hey guys! How important is 4set for our AoE in M+?

[supple laurel]

is there a WA to track SS stacks?

[undone flower]

Im pretty sure it is a premade WA in the addon

[potent citrus]

the most popular one has it built it in but it removes after the skill

[undone flower]

new aura -> premade - > icon -> buffs

[sullen dove]

both specs 4set is all your aoe

[serene socket]

in dungeon will others be able to see my marker or is it just local?

[smoky vale]

yes

[modest condor]

others can see it, that's kind of the point

tells them that's your interrupt

[serene socket]

Fair enough

[olive wraith]

Tbf as you gain experience running dungeons you can also somewhat anticipate when things will start casting

Often times there will be an auto marker wa that places markers on casters. And people will claim a marker to kick

To prevent overlaps

[serene socket]

some mobs will cast more often than the kick cooldown tho no?

[smoky vale]

yes

so you have 2 people kick it

[undone flower]

or be me, random kicks insta in pug

[smoky vale]

or use cc

[wet locust]

wait you guys kick?

[olive wraith]

There’s typically 1 super important thing to kick

And then a straight damage cast

[wet locust]

loyal beasts

[olive wraith]

So gotta kick the dangerous thing. And then you can stun, or eat the damage cast

[bitter palm]

let that one go through so tanks cant complain about the game being boring

[undone flower]

yeah you need to reach a certain key lvl before bolts are not healable, than another lvl for 1 bolt = one shots

so you can focus on the wiping casts first

[bitter palm]

ye im fairly certain bolts are designed to onetap unless u wall

at a certain key level

put er on anger management

would be funny

[undone flower]

if you want my totally cooked macro
/cast [@focus,exists,nodead,harm] Pummel
/stopmacro [@focus,exists,nodead,harm]
/focus target
/cleartarget
/targetenemy
/cast Pummel
/target focus
/clearfocus
/startattack

[wet locust]

I raise you shadowmeld

[iron portal]

cast cast cast

[grim star]

what do you guys usally use for simming? patchwork with 5 bosses?

[olive wraith]

I just st sim

[undone flower]

Same

[grim star]

even for m+?

[undone flower]

Yes, sometime I do a 5 target one for talents or trinket curiosity / but I usually take this decision based on what I read here or on logs

For raid tho I sim the number of bosses ofc, like soulhunter i put 3

[dapper goblet]

madox for yellow

[supple laurel]

oh, thank you very much!

[prime spire]

excuse me, is it pointed anywhere which keys are better for thane and which are better for slayer?

im guessing its up to average target count

[devout totem]

ngl unless u push into 17s qnd higher u can stay on slayer all dungeons

[prime spire]

i dont push but i like beating my friends in keys

[devout totem]

stick to slayer then

[prime spire]

👍

[olive wraith]

Slayer is arguably better the higher you go

[feral ivy]

warrior is the best spec to beat other classes in keys

[modest condor]

slayer is better in all keys at all levels

[iron portal]

You slay keys

[modest condor]

slay queen 💅

[feral ivy]

anyone know that WA or addon that tells u the % of adds are before pulling them

[olive wraith]

Low key thane might be better sub 10

[feral ivy]

like if i hover over an add it says 2% or so on

[olive wraith]

Only because slayer might not get bs back fast enough on low keys

[undone flower]

It is a very useful tool to start learning WA shit, you can look how it’s done, modify or mimic it for something else

[cedar tulip]

Why would bladestorm cooldown in lower keys be less? I was trying to think through it and I can’t figure out what you mean

[modest condor]

you're thinking the wrong way around

it's not the bladestorm cooldown that's different it's the enemy hp that's different

[oblique thistle]

mobs live way shorter, meaning you have less time to farm CDR off of execute and AM

I've helped friends in low keys, slayer is definitely annoying to play in that environment because BS in on CD more than you'd like it to be

also what is up with pugs being incapable of doing dawnbreaker

I swear to god I'm cursed or something that dungeon is a hellscape

[bitter palm]

just pugs