fury

[prime bane]

oh i see it now

i don't think my mythic build was reaching super far down past thunderous roar but i could be wrong as i often am lol

[nocturne salmon]

[warm crag]

[coarse nest]

45 second roar in dungeons is too good to pass up

It’s not insane damage but it’s enough to take for sure

[nocturne salmon]

i wonder what the lowest dps possible sim talent combo would be

singletarget

[warm crag]

p sure you can just fully skip ramapge

[nocturne salmon]

that would be a huge dip for sure

[remote bobcat]

smth like this?

[warm crag]

onslaught enrages

surely RA into dephts is worse if you never press reck or ramp

[remote bobcat]

bladestorm worse than onslaught u think?

[remote bobcat]

valid.

[tender forge]

This hurts to look at 🤣

[warm crag]

legs spec

@clever belfry

[nocturne salmon]

m+ challenge build

good luck

[remote bobcat]

brother ewwwww

[nocturne salmon]

haha

[clever belfry]

legs oooo

[nocturne salmon]

actually

ill make it a bit worse

[viral shore]

I wonder what points one could swap to take cruel strikes 🤔

[warm crag]

why would you want that

oh nvm that is smth yo uwant

youd drop the two roar followup points for them

[clever belfry]

rawr:3

[nocturne salmon]

here we go. good luck

[warm crag]

right click onslaught and click RA depths please

[clever belfry]

u cant skip fresh meat with this right?

cause if u can, u should

so u get a lot less enrages 👍

[coarse nest]

Yeah as spongie said, the two roar talents are what you would trade

[viral shore]

Yeah but I like them 😄

[nocturne salmon]

guess you could move it to like odins fury then

[nocturne salmon]

more like this then?

[clever belfry]

UF over OF for sure

cause u cant trigger it anyway

[nocturne salmon]

ah true

[clever belfry]

love my unenraged spins

[coarse nest]

The fact that Rampage is able to not be talented is insane to me

[nocturne salmon]

yeah its kinda stupid lol

[clever belfry]

i mean this is not something anyone does

[nocturne salmon]

yeah and thats the stupid part

[eternal sundial]

Stupid spell

Dont use

Raging blow better

[nocturne salmon]

if its essential then why make it skippable

[clever belfry]

half the talent trees are just mandatory nodes, thats just what most talent trees are gonna be

its just a psychological thing

[coarse nest]

There is 100% some chill gamer dude out there who’s like “Oh cool if I don’t pick this ability in the tree I never run out of rage that’s so gooooodd”

[clever belfry]

gives a nice sense of progression / freedom

despite not being free at all

[coarse nest]

[nocturne salmon]

lmfao

[eternal sundial]

There is maybe 5 flex points intended in the trees

Tiny bit more for arms

[clever belfry]

think its a few more

even the 1/3 mop trees had 7 nodes at the end i think

[eternal sundial]

The of nodes the ww nodes the execute nodes

[clever belfry]

i mean thats just cause the warrior base tree and fury tree

are awful

[sullen tendon]

was the last time we talented into onslaught s3 df

[clever belfry]

garbage

it was s2 wasnt it

didnt we skip in s3

[sullen tendon]

idk

[clever belfry]

cause u needed anni and OF

[sullen tendon]

thought we used onslaught in s3 cause we didnt have raging blow

[coarse nest]

RA/Onslaught season when!?

[eternal sundial]

New ra isnt it

Entire talent is not it

Cba

Think of something else

[eternal sundial]

This looks like what i progged raz on if u have OS

[grizzled aspen]

should I ever hold other CD's if reck is on CD? I notice that reck is usually available before the other CDs are available

[clever belfry]

this was a fyrakk kill

[eternal sundial]

Or is that df s3

Ah yee

[clever belfry]

powerful breakdown

[eternal sundial]

Tbf df u did have 3 diff builds on endboss

[sullen tendon]

i kinda hate all of these talens being where they are

there could be way better shit there and the ycould jsut put most of them baked into the spec

[eternal sundial]

Necessary eveil

[sullen tendon]

like armored to the teeth will never ever ever not be taken

its just pure stats

[clever belfry]

bad trees

as i said

[sullen tendon]

deft experiecne could be baked in - the stats

swift strikes is whatever

crit think is whatever

well

right now it is good

until they cahgne it backt oexe only

[grizzled aspen]

nvm, i see from multiple sources reck is used on CD every single time regardless of other CDs

any rebuttal to that?

[sullen tendon]

wait im confusing thenm

cause they all look the same

warrio one is exe

fury one is rb

lazy ass devs couldnt even change the icon

[clever belfry]

holy schmoly

[sullen tendon]

does any other class in the game still have a talent like this?

[clever belfry]

me when roar still piped

[sullen tendon]

it changes based on your spec but its the same effect

[eternal sundial]

S1? Or just arms

Miss df s1 fury set

[clever belfry]

this was smolder

dmg amp fatal mark pop moment

[sullen tendon]

most of the warrior and fury talent nodes are "Did you choose to play a warrior? If yes check this box."

[coarse nest]

OG RA needs to come back that was a sad day

[eternal sundial]

Like sl ra

Or wdym

[sullen tendon]

does anyoen know why the warcraft logs app decides to stop working sometimes and not others

yesterday until about halfway through the day it allowed me to see characters in my key listings logs in the character menu but now it refuses to do it

like this should have a red 20 next to it

[drifting token]

It's probably run by one guy in his spare time after his day job, cut him some slack

[rocky sequoia]

does a mythic raid still drop 4 items even if you have 10 people, amirdrissil for example

[coarse nest]

DF S3 build

[robust basin]

So, I've never really stance danced in the past. But Mythic Loom prog phase 2 is really hurtin' us, so i've started popping into defensive stance for the soaks and spreads.

Is there a reliable one button macro to jump into the other stance?

So itll swap me to defensive if Im in berserker and, Berserker if Im in Defensive

[pearl barn]

Hi people, is 720 belt without embelishment better in m+ than disc belt?

[winter shoal]

Maybe, maybe not. Sims will be able to tell you

[pearl barn]

How do you sim m+?

[winter shoal]

Personally I do a 1t 5m and a 5t 5m and just use my brain to compare them

But you can do either of them individually

Nothing significantly changes between them for fury

[steel shard]

22% fatal huhh

[winter shoal]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/best-weakauras-macros-addons

[junior oyster]

Also the FAQ Archi put in the pins has those macros n' such too

[robust basin]

Perfect, Thanks guys

/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;[known:386164]!Battle Stance;[known:386196]!Berserker Stance

[lapis shadow]

Flood 14

Got resil 14 now so time to push 15s

[chrome heath]

hhow to sim for fury?

[lapis shadow]

For what?

AoE? ST?

[chrome heath]

M+

im main prot xD

so just tryign to do some key as fury

[plush zephyr]

Goated. Love this macro

[chrome heath]

👀 m+

[winter shoal]

I challenge you to scroll up 10 messages #fury message

[lapis shadow]

I do 5 target 1m

[lapis shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[olive wraith]

Difficulty:hard

[coarse nest]

You guys scroll up???

[polar narwhal]

I only screw up

[junior oyster]

felt

[grizzled aspen]

we use dungeon slice? or 5t

[winter shoal]

I'm gonna crash out

[winter shoal]

#fury message

[grizzled aspen]

then crash out lil bro

dont give a fuck

[olive wraith]

That’s literally hilarious

[grizzled aspen]

ty though

[west pendant]

gentlemen

i need some help

[winter shoal]

I'm sure you do

[west pendant]

7.25 mill overall in 13 halls

something ive noticed is that on big pulls with lust

im not getting over 14 mil

when i should be getting 20mil

[sour tangle]

Yo

what race is the best?

[silver tapir]

Slavs

[craggy gulch]

is execute a higher priority in aoe than raging blow with even 1 stack of sudden death?

[west pendant]

Can someone please tell me what im doing wrongh

[olive wraith]

Race doesn’t matter too much

[craggy gulch]

or are you guys holding until 2 stacks

[meager hound]

400m Anything longer is just too long. Anything shorter isn't worth doing.

[light tapir]

Playing world of warcraft

[sour tangle]

Im in character creation with lvl 80 boost

[winter shoal]

Absolutely fried take

[fickle cedar]

void elf

[sour tangle]

ok

Thanks

[winter shoal]

Nobody can really tell you just based on a details screenshot

[meager hound]

🍳

[west pendant]

if i recorded a first pull from a dungeon

[olive wraith]

Warplclaw isn’t a good aoe trink

If you had idol it would help your burst a little

Swapping off sidearm would increase your aoe a tiny bit

[west pendant]

If I recorded first pull or a dungeon would you be interested in watching some of it

[winter shoal]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps
In general normal execute conditions apply in aoe the same as they do in ST

Would I personally? No

Would someone? Maybe

[olive wraith]

Keep in mind. We won’t really burst

[winter shoal]

I think dropping sidearm is a bad idea

Lose 1.5% st for a 0.2% aoe gain

[fickle cedar]

Personally on aoe I prefer to first get to 10 stacks, then I usually only exe with 3 mfe, otherwise RB spam, getting more reaps is more beneficial than executing with 2mfe imo

[olive wraith]

More exe means more bs

Depending on key level using a 2nd bs on a pull is pretty good

[west pendant]

Does anyone have WA for ww?

[fickle cedar]

Well yeah but usually by executing on 3 instead of 2 you wont lose that much mfe procs, maybe one or two per pack, instead gaining way more gcds for RB -> reaps

[olive wraith]

You don’t lose a gcd by pressing execute

Rb has limited charges pressing execute means you’ll run out of them less

[fickle cedar]

Well yeah I mean as a priority in aoe I go for:
10 stacks of overwhelmed > 3 mfe > rb > 2 mfe
Instead of the single target one, I've been testing both and I prefer the first one, I get the same amount of bladestorms but more reap damage usually

[wheat cosmos]

whats the skill priority on big pulls?

[olive wraith]

Normal prio

[cedar tulip]

Do you send CDs on CD even if desynced?

[olive wraith]

Yes

[fathom jay]

With the slayer Fury M+ build. What's the priority between execute and rampage? Assuming you have Enrage and 2+ stacks for execute.

Also -- Does a melee range/AA WA that just tells me I'm not in melee? I have a bad habit of forgetting melee

[olive wraith]

Consult wowhead

[fickle cedar]

Reck and ava cast themselves so just send, the only case when you can hold is maybe adds are coming in 10 seconds or something but that is case per case.

[cedar tulip]

That was going to be my next question. So if they cast themselves does this mean when they’re synced each of their uptime is just extended by the talent?

[olive wraith]

Yes

[sour tundra]

How are dps warriors getting into 15+ keys

[arctic portal]

have a tank, heal, bloodlust and battle rezz friend with you

[olive wraith]

Patience and not applying to caster groups

[olive wraith]

We have battle res

[gilded mountain]

if you really care about performance, orc, tauren, dwarf, or human but it ultimately doesnot matter pick who looks coolest lol

its like less than 1% difference

void elf is the correct choice tho

[sour tangle]

ye made void elf

[olive wraith]

Pretty sure orc and Tauren aren’t top 3

[gilded mountain]

are they not ?

[sour tangle]

I thought since I have 80 character boost I might as well go meta race

[olive wraith]

Velf, nelf, dwarf, human

[olive wraith]

“Meta race” is dwarf or nelf

You got bamboozled friend

[sour tangle]

Wdym

[olive wraith]

Those are the most used races in high keys

[earnest canyon]

Why are there no mixed races in wow? I want a female tauren/gnome hybrid

[sour tangle]

but velf being the highest simming?

[olive wraith]

Sure it is

It’s like 40k or something

[gilded mountain]

which is so miniscule

i play an undead so

[earnest canyon]

why is velf the highest simming?

[gilded mountain]

velf racial is pretty good

[olive wraith]

Ye

Human is 2nd highest towards end of expansion too

[gilded mountain]

its like every 60 seconds u get a damage bonus for a little bit

[olive wraith]

More stats

[gilded mountain]

also it has warlock teleport too lol

oh and cant forget the most important racial of velf

reduced cost on transmog

[fickle cedar]

aint gonna be useful in 6 months tho

[silver tapir]

Wait. No way

[gilded mountain]

fuck so right

[olive wraith]

?

[gilded mountain]

yeah were not pressing execute in AOE rn

raging blow procs reap the storm, execute doesnt

lol

[silver tapir]

Execute is off of gcd?

[gilded mountain]

no thats not what he said

[silver tapir]

Thought we did for DR

[gilded mountain]

dont waste a gcd on execute

if youre at like 3 targets then press it but anything above 3 dont waste the gcd

[winter shoal]

I mean that's just empirically untrue

Like do you have any support for that statement whatsoever

[gilded mountain]

execute doesnt proc reap

raging blow does

smile

[radiant perch]

I would say it depends on what you need

[fading sky]

I mean if u have blade rsy

[silver tapir]

Do we have a gif that illustrates this for those that learn better with visual queues?

[radiant perch]

Exactly

[fading sky]

Or if all mobs have same health..

Most likely main target is big mob that must die

So execute has vig value

And 3 targets. Proc chance of reap drops ya know

[silver tapir]

Yeah prio dmg is something I was considering with the execute thing as well

[fading sky]

At times if 1 is healthy i send my 2nd bladestorm

Most often u can just mfe hunt on the last mov

But this is why fury is fun

[olive wraith]

Ya execute isn’t a waste of a gcd

[gusty cloak]

dawn 15, too much rb?

[olive wraith]

It’s still a fairly high prio button

[radiant perch]

Kaching and go

[olive wraith]

Dawn has generally lower target count pulls so rb is gonna skew higher

[quiet breach]

asking all high key doers or former high key doers, at what key level does it become not worth it to pug anymore and to look for a 5man?

[gilded mountain]

yeah my bad I didnt mean its like 100% never press it

execute is still really important but pressing raging blow makes you do the funny spin

and the funny spin is dopamine

[silver tapir]

Group always better. You can pug v high tho. Just takes longer

[gilded mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-love-gif-11562757791331486985

[radiant perch]

[fading sky]

Y id say even in 13s

Im hatin carrying ppl

That cant play their rotation

[quiet breach]

im currently pugging 14s

and i know im still at a very puggable level

[fading sky]

Ofc

[radiant perch]

Last season i pugged to 16

[quiet breach]

im wandering how many more levels i can go before the frustrations and downsides of pugging outweight the freedom

[olive wraith]

I think I’ve heard it gets a bit harder above 15

[quiet breach]

and plug n play aspect

[fading sky]

But it is time consuming

All depends

How fast u get frustrated😑

[quiet breach]

did u stop cuz u just felt like not pushing anymore or did u hit a wall

[radiant perch]

But as tank main.. its hard sometimes for me to see other tanks doing crazy routes…

[fading sky]

At 13s i havent got time to waste on bad players, so id prob go back to weekly 12s

[radiant perch]

Lack of time mostly, i came back during the turbo boost

[silver tapir]

When alot of pugs start pulling you into discord. You kinda know its time for a group lol. At least that's the way it used to be

[radiant perch]

And played till end of season and now im still here :😀

[quiet breach]

ahhhh is that how it is? w hen you get high enough the pugs require voice?

[earnest canyon]

I use my steven hawking synthesiser voice, then they kick me

[quiet breach]

i would MUCH rather find a 5 man atp then vc with randoms

[radiant perch]

There are ppl that pug even higher than 16s

[fading sky]

Id wish they added rewards above 3k

[dense elbow]

You want to try to get into a premade environment around the 0.5% mark, or it will get a lot harder to be efficient. So around 16-17s atm

[fading sky]

I just need a little something

[quiet breach]

thx

[fading sky]

Per 200 rating should give u something

Up to 4k

[radiant perch]

Top teams doing +20 now.. what will be top during turbo boost 25? 😄

Last season ended at 22s?

[dense elbow]

They should reward gold equal to your rating every 250

[fading sky]

Kek

[sullen dove]

Wow +20k gold

[fading sky]

Thats nuttin

[sullen dove]

so big

[radiant perch]

Epic midnight expansion for ppl that get title

[fading sky]

A transmog // mount titles

[dense elbow]

For Blizzard that is basically the sum total they will pay for an employee over 20 years

We would be swimming in gold

[gilded mountain]

no they have to nerf gold values

theyre losing to much money to level boosters instead of people buying character boosts

[earnest canyon]

i wish they made M+ only give cosmetics

[restive peak]

Prob 24/25, and 26s in MDI

[earnest canyon]

How much does turbo boost ilevel go to?

[restive peak]

I don't think we know yet, but it's very standard for each season to go up 3-4 keystone levels as an expac goes on

[earnest canyon]

dayum

I honestly dont look at the key levels of the MDI that much as they are so out of reach to me I just rate them all as "very very hard" and its fun to just watch how they deal with the mechanics because a lot of them seem one shot at that high a key, or the dots you can take a few ticks max

[restive peak]

Yeah last season and this 1 I stopped really caring to push bleeding edge, but watching is fun

Resil keys just made it so much more degen

[frank dawn]

resil keys seem pretty degen at the high end, but also like so much random shit can brick your key between bugs, disconnects, and other stuff that homework keys and repushing keys also blows. Not sure what other answers could be.

[restive peak]

Oh yeah there's no perfect solution, personally I'd like to see resil be the key ABOVE where you are

So like timed all 17s, now 18 is resil, but also require all 5 to be resil of 17s etc

[frank dawn]

hmmm, that's interesting for it to require the group I think

[restive peak]

Resil was supposed to be for team play to eliminate homework

This didn't do that cuz you can just carry 2 buddies who have a 12 into your 18 and throw your head at the wall

It encourages sales etc

[frank dawn]

right

[restive peak]

So I think requiring the group to have it and being 1 higher would be the perfect middle ground

But that's just my opinion idk

[fading sky]

Yes

[undone flower]

#deletekeyholders

[restive peak]

That would also be nice, let me run ara if I want to run ara etc

[shy copper]

heyo, we are playing slayer now over MT?

for m+

[earnest canyon]

@restive peak do you like aerobics

[restive peak]

Wut

[earnest canyon]

Like aeroic dancing

[restive peak]

I'm gonna say I don't really know here

😛

I find impressive dancing cool, I am a shit dancer hahaha

[languid willow]

Question if I rampage without enrage does rampage benefit from the enrage gained or no?

[earnest canyon]

i will link u a video in #off-topic . I watch it at least once per day to motivate me.

[restive peak]

Just DM me big dog

[restive peak]

Yep

[languid willow]

@restive peak perfect so I can sink in one extra RB before enrage expires as long as I have 2 WW stacks all I needed to know

[earnest canyon]

no way

[restive peak]

Oh I know this one hahahahahaha

[restive peak]

Yes

[edgy widget]

be aware that Reap isn't instantaneous; there's a small delay after Raging Blow in which Enrage can fall off, so is isn't worth timing down to the last millisecond

• if you have >0.5s left, you can probably fit both, but anything under that is a gamble I wouldn't bother with; so if Enrage is falling off, just send another Rampage

[languid willow]

Roger o7

Outside of reck it feels like we are rampaging at 80 rage a lot

[edgy widget]

you shouldn't be, unless you're just out of RB charges (which does happen and is the main reason that hard prio RB until Enrage isn't actually better than sending Rampage as normal)

unless you mean you're just not generating enough rage to get over 80 before having to refresh Enrage? That can happen if you're not using Execute as much

[languid willow]

No I mean like if reck isn’t up, in aoe, it seems that I have only enough enrage window time to get 80 rage before enrage falls off

[edgy widget]

Yeah that happens if you're not using Execute very much

everything in this build is give and take

[languid willow]

I usually send on the slot machine noise

[edgy widget]

also easier if you're higher on haste

[languid willow]

I’ll take a vid of my situation so it can be more clear of it, maybe get some insight in how to prevent it

Just feels like WW weaving def delays some rage regen

[olive wraith]

#updates-midnight

[languid willow]

In these reck down windows, which tbf rarely happens because it’s usually only 10-15 sec I usually don’t have some sort of reck window

[dense fulcrum]

Guys

We are too strong

[languid willow]

@edgy widget but tyvm for the information I’ll try to weave in executes to maintain more rage in no reck windows and see if it helps

[dense fulcrum]

Im scared they nerf us

[olive wraith]

Nah we aren’t top dogs

Don’t worry

[rigid stirrup]

we keep up w them tho

[languid willow]

We easily beat fotm dk rerollerz but dedicated dk players still outdps

[olive wraith]

No we don’t

[dense fulcrum]

Idk im mostly almost above any dk fotm dog in my 16-17 ahah

[restive peak]

We do, but we're not outliers, and we still bring nothing

[olive wraith]

Havoc, fdk are still massive

[dense fulcrum]

Thats what pays when u otp a class

[restive peak]

Utility doesn't matter for M+ until everything is equal, and then it does

[dense fulcrum]

Instead of fotm rerolling

[restive peak]

DKs are tankier, both for themselves and their team, do better on demand dmg, and are far tankier than us, grip is also sick

[languid willow]

Isn’t the meta comp prot/rsham/fdk/havoc/mage anyways?

[rigid stirrup]

I don't think theres a defined meta yet

[restive peak]

Mage/MM/FDK

[dense fulcrum]

Ye fdk is the best class in the game rn

[silver tapir]

I bricked a 15 last night because I was running on 4h of sleep so I went into farm mode and some druid in a 12 told me I pumped...I think I only hit like.. 7.5 in ara. Bless that kind furry

[dense fulcrum]

Melee *

[restive peak]

Is currently the "top" comp

[dense fulcrum]

If u see all around utility tankiness dmg etc

[olive wraith]

Phys comp will be much more competitive this season though

[restive peak]

It's also that FDKs can hold their breath and then giga fuck any big pull or add phase etc whenever on demand

[dense fulcrum]

Good

[restive peak]

We do very flat dmg

[olive wraith]

Maybe we see same key level timed

[dense fulcrum]

Yeah

[restive peak]

I mean Farover and them were like 6th overall with no comms last tier

[dense elbow]

we know

[restive peak]

The game is always far closer than we all make it out to be

[dense fulcrum]

But ngl guys its so good to be always top 3 in raid

and good m+

[frank dawn]

yeah it feels good, this is probably the most competitive fury has ever been

even if we still offer dog to the group, at least we are strong

[modest condor]

the best comp is farover's team but swapping rogue for hunter

this is a hill im willing to die on

[restive peak]

I think you're probably right Silm

[remote bobcat]

im not convinced hunter is that much better

i think its equal

[olive wraith]

Sin?

[dense elbow]

Hunter is pretty squish and need a lot of baby sitting

[azure mesa]

what stats do we want on mythic boe helm? Is it really bis

[olive wraith]

I’ve seen some nutty sub

[modest condor]

you have not seen BM hunter if you say that

[modest condor]

being squishy didnt stop priest from being meta all of df

[dense elbow]

Just sayin'

lot easier with something that isnt

[olive wraith]

Worry about stats when you have the rest of the bis list

[restive peak]

Bleeding edge doesn't care about easier

[languid willow]

I mean we still being aoe knock/stun, ST stun, rally if your group needs it, can spell reflect important casts if inturupts don’t want to be wasted

[restive peak]

They care about performance, they'll make the "hard" stuff happen

[dense elbow]

Sure, but we are far from that atm

[restive peak]

We are not far

We just aren't that

[dense elbow]

Turbo boost havent happened, final push hasnt started

atm ppl chill

[restive peak]

We are better than about 23 other specs, which is a shit ton

[dense elbow]

Yeah, but as a wise man said

if ya aint first

...

[frank dawn]

yeh idk man, like sure maybe we aren't in the absolute top 5 but saying we're far off from the top end doesn't seem correct either

[restive peak]

We will never be first barring a rework so

[languid willow]

I did have a miserable time in lfg queue simulator trying to get my last 3 16s don e

[restive peak]

We do the same dmg as the top end, that by definition is incredibly close

[fading sky]

Bm dark ranger fucks

[languid willow]

Just gonna start sending my key and just play reroll key sim

[dense elbow]

That do be hte way CN, 16s is top 0.5% or close, so ya reached the point where it isnt "just go LFG", ya got to put in effort - and that effort is better used on your own key, or getting a team

or wait a week, and 16 is free

[restive peak]

NGL pack is better than DR it seems lol

[dense elbow]

DR?

[undone flower]

Dark ranger

[dense elbow]

BM talk

yuck

[olive wraith]

Dr is their raid spec I think?

[restive peak]

DR for raid yeah

Pack is better in M+

[undone flower]

DR needs constant pulling if I remember how it works

[dense elbow]

Pack is better, if you play around the stampede CD spam with tracking the beasts

But it is super high effort to minmax

[storm birch]

Wassup yall

[dense elbow]

Wassssssssup fellow 1990s kid

[earnest canyon]

bm hardest spec in the game confirmed

[undone flower]

WAZZZAAA

[storm birch]

[olive wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-you-do-fellow-kids-steve-buscemi-30rock-fellow-kids-one-of-us-gif-21904018

[winter shoal]

DR is turbo brain off gameplay tho innit

[restive peak]

The minmax is mouseover barbed shots lmao

[storm birch]

Weekends are the worst. I get max fomo for not being able to play

What y’all need from vault Tuesday? Im manifesting loot for everyone

[dense elbow]

I get a headache when they dicuss the minmax required pull to pull, to get those juicy 10-12m overalls. But, if they dont, we see 6-8m, so it is so not worth it for a PuG enviroment

[languid willow]

Pls pray for my antenna

[dense elbow]

ooo, can I have a ring, a neck and a cape?

[languid willow]

Or a myth track weapon

[undone flower]

I think they are diff profile and maybe MM covers DR BM profile

[storm birch]

My manifestation powers can only allot one piece of loot 🤣

[narrow kiln]

Circuit breaker or sacbrood would be huge

[dense elbow]

... I want cape

[storm birch]

I gotchuuuuu! I finally got mine from m loomi this week. Guild gave to me

[earnest canyon]

p much....you need to try and use all ur cds at once to maximise black arrow procs......if Beastial Wrath is off cd and there is <30 secs for cotw and bloodshed both, hold BW, else send

[storm birch]

I got you a circuit breaker manifested

[languid willow]

We had to give to a spreist to make forge reclears faster 😟

[earnest canyon]

you need them to chain pulls also for bm as it has no big CDs.....well DR does, but then you may as well be MM

[storm birch]

That’s rough they better be a pumper !

[earnest canyon]

I love how slow shadow priests are

[fading sky]

I dno man ive seen huge numbers on dr

[earnest canyon]

dimensius does his big arm thingy and we had no warlock last raid for gate, so they are always limping across just in time like an 80 year old that has shit his pants

[fading sky]

10m in as low as 13

[plush zephyr]

Ez just cut out 4-5 hours of sleep on Saturday/sunday

[earnest canyon]

depends on the dungeon

you cant do 10m as bm in streets as packs are too small and there is large downtime

[dense elbow]

Trueshot Lodge is that way -> 🚪

[earnest canyon]

ara kara/priory you can

im banned from Trueshot Lodge still I think

[plush zephyr]

Where you’ll either get someone super nice to you, or super rude to if you ask a question. Never know what you’re gonna get.

Most of the time both

[storm birch]

I work 3:30 to 3:30 and it’s 40 mins each way to work 🙁 my only chance is skipping the gym but as a warrior main it’s my duty to work on gains

[dense elbow]

Never been there. All I know is that ppl that went there, never went back

[plush zephyr]

Bro you gotta kill that commute. Especially with a fam like you do. Not trying to give life advice. But, good god.

I did it for 2-3 years a commute like that and regret it

No more podcasts episodes

[storm birch]

Yea it’s bruuuuuutal. Especially coming home from work at 3:30 am for a 40 minute drive it’s draining. Funny enough in 2 weeks I’m moving and it’ll only be a 7 min drive !! So kinda taking your advice !! @plush zephyr

[earnest canyon]

I used to drive 2-3hrs one way to work.....the distance was about 40 miles ....then the same back

i started staying in hotels

[storm birch]

That’s horriblreeeee

[earnest canyon]

yup...sucks ass cos at times you are moving at 2mph

[umbral gull]

Years spamming fury, getting bored right now, wich class i can play in secondary chars ? i want distance caster but easy to play ( not hunt ) with lot of aoe ( tired of 5 sing cap btw )

[oak peak]

How hard is no death hard mode actually? Been doing 14s lately in comparison

[silver tapir]

ESham? They are good rn and decent mobility unlike lock

[plush zephyr]

Not hard if you have comms

[umbral gull]

it's not hard to play ? i got sham lv 80 but your got like 3X more spells than fury

[plush zephyr]

Lock has mobility

[silver tapir]

I used to play ele and watched a couple of vids a week ago doesn't seem hard at all

[umbral gull]

Like u can play good with it with the simple cast kit and u need to use all spells for perform with it ?

[plush zephyr]

I think the ceiling is really high and floor is really low on ele. More than others. Kinda like fire mage.

[earnest canyon]

ele is super fun when ascension is up and you are pumping, and utter shit when it isnt

[umbral gull]

Fire mage look fun but really hard to play no ?

[silver tapir]

I feel like everytime i have a mage in my key they get deleted by anything and do half dmg

That's usually arcane tho

[umbral gull]

every mage in key are fucking profesionnal in deplate

[plush zephyr]

I can pump as arcane and even frost. I played a whole tier as fire sucking it out trying to get better and still sucked. Absolute skill issue, and yes it’s hard as fuck.

Arcane and Fire just promote degen behavior in m+, especially fire mage

[umbral gull]

I just getting tired to perform only in boss desctruction lmao tired to see others people in key doing like 50M in half pack of the dungeon when u tryhard for touch 25

[plush zephyr]

I don’t take mages into my keys as a warrior but I’ll take warriors into my mage comps lmao

[umbral gull]

As a melee dps without big pack burst or BL it's pretty hard to don't tilt when u got 3k IO but still don't find group for 30 mn for do one key u already timed +2 like 20 times

[plush zephyr]

I’ve ascended to not applying to keys

My threshold is like 3 applications max then I just run my own or find a guildie doing something

Even if someone invites me if it takes longer than like 2 mins, I’m petty I don’t even wanna do it then lmaooo

[barren token]

I have a quick question. I like to main prot and off spec arms but want to give fury a go. Prot and fury don't seem to match up stat prio as well as prot and arms tho. Do I need to redo stats to play fury decently or can i just get away with just swapping trinkets, weapons, and calling it a day

[plush zephyr]

The latter yes. You’ll be fine

[lilac kettle]

Pugging as war is the worst m+ exp I have ever had and still do, playtime-wise. You would have 7/8 +15s timed and people will still not pick you for the last dungeon you need on 15.

[barren token]

thank ya!

[plush zephyr]

Sim, but, yeah you’ll probably be fine just swapping a few things around and sending it

[plush zephyr]

It’s a damn shame too. If interrupts was a rated io to classes warrior would be #1

Also best aoe stun in game

[smoky vale]

thats the same on any class

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

[earnest canyon]

@edgy widget how do you get to the polls?

I go to warcraftlogs NOT logged in and it says "4 available, please login" or something

I login and see "4 polls available" at the top, but clicking does nothing

[radiant perch]

Do your key 🙂

[dense elbow]

https://discord.gg/warcraft-logs-180033360939319296
They prob got that questioned asked 50 times over in general chat

[earnest canyon]

eeeeh i dont care that much to join another server

[dense elbow]

Then you shouldnt care either way

if they dont get what they want, they just redo the questionaire till they do

[earnest canyon]

lmao

[edgy widget]

they're on the front page

[earnest canyon]

not for me...even tried....microsoft edge cos it has no plugins and allows ads through and shit

oh im still on vpn, that will be it

nope

fuck you warcraft logs

[dense elbow]

If only there was a discord server where you could ask the crew directly

[storm birch]

I never have time to pad on adds in forge 🥲

[edgy widget]

Well I don't work for WCL, so idk why you're asking me

[dense elbow]

Archi doesnt work for WCL, WCL works for Archi

get it right

[smoky vale]

why didnt they take away swordishs rank one then

[dense elbow]

Whale Sub

[earnest canyon]

just in case I was being blind/stupid as I usually am...sorry to bother you

[smoky vale]

meow

[olive wraith]

Try typing /combatlog take me to your poll

[earnest canyon]

hahahaha

[jade cipher]

second boss of streets feels like shit to play

is it just me that have extreme problems with it?

[earnest canyon]

i hate everyboss in there except the band thing cos thats cool

[jade cipher]

feels like i spend too much time running around and not pushing 1 dps button

[earnest canyon]

the mail room guy?

[jade cipher]

no the 3 boss guy

when the robot is casting you have to go back, then the whirlwind goes on after it and after that you get this thing that you need to run around and soak

i think its a bad decision on blizzard part for melee not to be able to attack the robot while he is channeling

[hardy vault]

Hey ! I have arakara 723 + plexus trinket 723. In M+, shoud i use the cursed idol 710 ?

[earnest canyon]

I haven't really thought not being able to to hit it. It's just the mechanic.

@olive wraith did you buy monkey DLC?

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-mad-cat-cat-mad-cat-jealous-gif-23378592

[earnest canyon]

Trueshot Lodge is that way

[undone flower]

Server closing ?

[restive peak]

OF problems

[dense elbow]

😠

[earnest canyon]

Was hunter bm or mm?

[restive peak]

xD

[dense elbow]

El BM

[earnest canyon]

What was dungeon

[dense elbow]

Ara

[earnest canyon]

He should have done 25 million

[dense elbow]

clearly he should've done 50m at that point

[earnest canyon]

Maybe one of his pets is sick

[dense elbow]

Not enough bear procs

[lilac kettle]

I am doing my key, but the discussion was about the experience of NOT doing my key

[dense elbow]

Do your key 🙂

[lilac kettle]

Obviously everyone does their key after not getting invited for 30 minutes

[lime vortex]

I rq last season after not getting a single invite in 2h of applying, this season is much better, especially this week cause people now know about the fury "buff"

[dense elbow]

Hard to say no to a 13sec interupt, big dam, big AoE stop class

No heroism/CR required

only dam

[lime vortex]

gotta put "big zug dam" in note

[smoky vale]

nope

im declining you anyways

[dense elbow]

Aight

[lime vortex]

instant invite

[lapis shadow]

Holy shit it worked

[eternal nebula]

anyone have a good mfe wa that notifiers @ 3 stacks, pref with tts

[lime vortex]

Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe shit

[plush zephyr]

I always put wild shit in my notes

Feel like it helps

[plush zephyr]

“Lets toast these poptarts dawg”

[lapis shadow]

"hiii :3 my name is funkykitty :333 i do biggggg dmg >.<"

works

[dense elbow]

Aight all are out

lets see if any bite

[lapis shadow]

gl hf

[plush zephyr]

Actually probably would. Idk I like vibers over weirdos who won’t even give a “o/“

[dense elbow]

Who doesnt do \o

[lilac kettle]

I once applied to +18 in s1 as a rsham who did +13s with "how bad could it go" and got invited. It was late Tuesday so I guess they just yolo-ed it before reset xD

[iron portal]

didnt work

I call scam

[dense elbow]

it did indeed not work

none of the above

[lime vortex]

when i pug and someone joins the group and doesn't even say "hi" i'm tempted to kick them, acting like they're too good for the rest of the group

[lapis shadow]

[lilac kettle]

No greeting no inv

[brisk ridge]

Hello, I'm here because I've been trying to figure out what's wrong for a week now. I've watched lots of videos, I've looked at the gear, the stats, the rotation, and I can't understand why I see all the war slayers doing 10 to 12M overall damage and I can't get past 6M (Note that in Mountain Thane, I'm at 7 to 8 million overall on the keys, so after training for a week trying to understand what's wrong, I'm coming to you for help because I'm desperate.

I hope I'm not disturbing you.

[lapis shadow]

Youre disturbing me >:((((((((((((((((((

[iron portal]

You have to take into account that not everyone pulls in a way you can get good overall

[lime vortex]

I would say you're spending rage on rampage as soon as you can or is full?

[plush zephyr]

I do, 100%

[lapis shadow]

Dmg graph seems fine, are you bladestorming every pack?

[brisk ridge]

Yes

[dense elbow]

The checklist:

• Are you maxed out gearwise?
• Are you doing the core basic rotation (wowhead guide)
• Are you doing high enough keys to where you can do good damage?
• Are you doing the advanced rotation (wowhead guide + #1347646810457636974)

If no to any, do that first, then we can have another round about it

[iron portal]

If all is like that it mihgt be frequency and pull size during run

[brisk ridge]

I cast my spells as soon as I get procs on them, which means that when I don't have a proc that allows me to do “more damage with,” and when I don't have a proc, I spam Raging Blow, as many warriors with good stats have told me to do.

[iron portal]

also depends on dungeon

[lilac kettle]

Bro if someone shared me this pingu gif I would 100% invite them

[dense elbow]

Honestly, same

[silver tapir]

Try the raging blow gif?

[dense elbow]

How is my week going?

[lime vortex]

Try it on a 5 target dummy how you normally play for a set amount of time and then try it by spamming raging blow despite being capped on rage and using rampage to re-enrage

[silver tapir]

Don't spam execute on CD - if you dont have the execute WA its a good helper until you learn the intricacies

[brisk ridge]

The checklist:
Are you maxed out gearwise?

With the equipment I have at the moment, yes, since I don't do Mythic Raids, I can't go any higher.

Are you doing the core basic rotation (wowhead guide)

Yes, I'm doing the rotations correctly, I've checked it several times, which is why I'm asking for help here, because I've been watching tutorial videos for over a week now, watching the best wars in the world (critcake for example) and trying to do everything like him. But nothing works, with all the tutorials I've seen, etc. Even after hours spent on dummies, I can't seem to increase my DPS.

Are you doing high enough keys to where you can do good damage? In keys, I go up from 10 to 13.

Are you doing the advanced rotation (wowhead guide + ⁠help-and-log-review) As for the log review, I'm not really sure what that means, but for the rest, I'm doing everything that's required.

[dense elbow]

10-13 keys will be rough

I didnt start to do 10m before 15s

Mainly cause of how tanks pull in low keys

Just keep pushing upwards, you will gain more DPS as pulls become more efficent

[brisk ridge]

I have Execute WA and use Execute when WA say me use it

[dense elbow]

#1347646810457636974 bring your logs in here, or VOD, and let the ppl in there hammer out your obvious missplays

There is a guide to how it works, in that channel

[smoky vale]

do you have bs going into every pack

[dense elbow]

My fix for you: Just do higher keys, you wont do 10m in a key where ppl do 6m

[brisk ridge]

On target dummie i go 10 at 12M overall. No matter how many times I type them, I still make fewer mistakes overall, even on larger packs.

[iron portal]

Cant compare dummy to whole dungeon mate

[languid willow]

17 Gambit

[dense elbow]

Dummies dont have downtime, nor bosses that tank doesnt pull adds under.

[olive wraith]

This is a big one

[dense elbow]

Dummies is only good for basic rotation

once that is down

push higher up in keys

then ya will see your DPS skyrocket

[brisk ridge]

Do you think the problem is that I'm in keys 10 to 13 and so the packs don't last long enough for me to do big damage?

[iron portal]

what is highest key you have done

[dense elbow]

Basically, that and inefficent pulls

[brisk ridge]

+14

[dense elbow]

Lower ya go, higher the chance tank gives you a lot of deadspace

[olive wraith]

What keys are these from

[dense elbow]

Dude

dont push anymore

that is a perfect 3k

[iron portal]

True

[lilac kettle]

Do you guys disable the exe WA or just change the conditions for MFE to 3? I started ignoring most of it and only exe for MFE at 3 or if ashen jugg is falling off and I need ST dmg.

[olive wraith]

I follow the wa

[summer quail]

maybe that adds a bit more overall, but your low overall isn't because of that

[dense elbow]

Tank pulls one and one pack, no packs under boss

"why my dam low?"

[brisk ridge]

I don't plan on going any higher, anyway, I don't like the mythical +, I just want to understand why I see lots of war furies playing slayer who make 10 to 12 million on keys and I don't, whereas when I play the arms warrior, or when I play Moutaint thanes, I have the same stats as the people who are good.

[flat river]

WoWlogs be like: "hey guys this boss has adds lets remove them so ST specs go higher"

stupid af

[dense elbow]

Gala triggered

git gud

[compact knot]

dude this happens in everything

[summer quail]

do you go into most packs with bladestorm up? that makes a pretty big difference

[compact knot]

i literally just complained about this for mop

[lime vortex]

I would say it's your rotation or bad cd management, I do 12-14 keys, these are 13 halls and 14 ara-kara @brisk ridge

[dense elbow]

Poor guy being asked the same thing over and over

[olive wraith]

What keys are these ss from

[summer quail]

welcome to class discords

[dense elbow]

Almost forgot to say it today

buff OF

[brisk ridge]

You see, the stats you get in Slayer are the stats I get in Mountain Thane.

[compact knot]

lowkey i still be using odyns in raid and m+

[olive wraith]

Did he answer the bs question yet

[lime vortex]

s3 DF OF

[compact knot]

i think its really good on some fights

[brisk ridge]

Ovo , psf , Hoa , Eco

[olive wraith]

Those are some big pull dungeons on average. Are you really entering every pull with bs?

I’m brain farting what’s ovo

[languid willow]

its drakes label

[dense elbow]

(ya keep forgetting that when everyone is low DPS; that probably = tank pulling badly)

[lilac kettle]

OvO

[languid willow]

the guy from degrassi

[compact knot]

@brisk ridge im going to check the +14 arakara you logged and look for issues

give me like 10 mins

[brisk ridge]

For example, what I don't understand is that in all the CritCake videos I watch, when he equips BladeStorme, he earns several million overall in DPS, but when I equip my BladeStorme (making sure that all the procs are there to do maximum damage), I don't even earn 1 million overall.

[compact knot]

wait

you did it as thane

[brisk ridge]

Yes

[compact knot]

uhh

[dense elbow]

rephrase and clarify

[compact knot]

are you having issues with both specs

because they both play kinda the same

er both hero talents

[brisk ridge]

Actually, I know I'm terrible at Slayer, so I avoid playing it too much in keys so as not to troll people and get insulted.

[dense elbow]

Noone would insult you, when you do equal dam to them

[compact knot]

^

that

[brisk ridge]

No i have just issue with Slayer 🙁

That's exactly what I don't understand. .

[dense elbow]

Honestly, you are overthinking it, dont worry if you do 5m when others do 5m

worry when others do 10 and you do 5

It is 99% chance just pathing and pulls

[silver tapir]

I think that there is a gif floating around that summarizes slayer damage. I wonder where it might be

[lime vortex]

Seeing as it's the same tank, it could be that

[restive peak]

Ye if you're near others it's likely pulls etc

[lime vortex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413241837900005386/reaptech.gif

[restive peak]

Pugs are wild

[undone flower]

Floodgate in French

[restive peak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284226322585354241/1413178488713642104/GIF_20250904_160623_708.gif

[dense elbow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284226322585354241/1413178488713642104/GIF_20250904_160623_708.gif?ex=68c6da07&is=68c58887&hm=b401df92bb77d582433dbb19c00d1dc0ae0424978b236f441c8ded9813bcfee4&

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413756735948066867/reaptech.gif

[olive wraith]

Ty sir

[dense fulcrum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413756735948066867/reaptech.gif?ex=68c6fa50&is=68c5a8d0&hm=3e64d9298c471297fd9686028b67b1719be5af0ff8835593fd30560ee2ffdd96&

[compact knot]

many times its not a rotational issue but a when you use cooldowns issue, m+ overalls as fury are entirely based on your own cd usage, if i see something that stands out as bad i will let you know in like 10 mins

[undone flower]

Opération Vannes Ouverte / OvO

[brisk ridge]

The thing I've noticed is that in all the wars I've watched in terms of overall DPS, REAP THE STORM is way ahead in DPS. In all my keys, reap the storm is second.

[dense elbow]

Dont look at others in their keys

[compact knot]

you just have like no slayer keys logged so its hard for me to even find one

[dense elbow]

cause you aint in those keys

[brisk ridge]

Sorry , im french

[dense elbow]

look at things relative to others in your own keys

[brisk ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/clair-obscur-expedition-33-maelle-nopers-shaking-my-head-gif-11950782421148648122

[oblique thistle]

pull size often dictates this

[storm birch]

It really does depend on how your tank pulls the dungeon/how fast things die etc

[undone flower]

I have the same disease

[dense elbow]

^^^^^^^^

[lime vortex]

@brisk ridge you said you do fine on dummies, so I have to ask, do you bladestorm all the mobs in a key? When they're grouped up or just the first 2-3 the tank pulls?

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/choking-gif-18241023091515446173

[olive wraith]

Most common reason reap is lower than rb is either the dungeon itself. Or not having high overwhelmed stacks quickly on a fresh pull

If you’re doing things correctly it’s probably pathing

[undone quartz]

sometimes i try and mix in BT to reap when i dont have overwhelmed stacks or Bladestorm

[compact knot]

u have 0 slayer keys logged

[brisk ridge]

I blade storm when the packs are big enough, like if there are more than 5 mobs, I always save it for big packs, otherwise it would be trolling to use it on a small pack, and also to have it for big packs.

[compact knot]

erm

[lilac kettle]

Oof slayer moment is farming your CDs up, but the pack is on 10-20% HP and the tank is not chain pulling

[brisk ridge]

???

[oblique thistle]

This pretty much confirms exactly what everyone else has been saying

[brisk ridge]

I gonna upload if you want

[oblique thistle]

the pull sizes in your keys are wack

[dense elbow]

HE IS LITTERALY SAYING THEY ARE PULLING SMALL, THAT IS THE ISSUE AT ITS CORE. CASE CLOSED.

[olive wraith]

Your bs is low enough cooldown to have 1 per pull

[storm birch]

You gotta use bladestorm a lot. No matter what. And you have to realize that you will farm it back very quickly

[undone flower]

• he seems to not bs the « small packs »

[storm birch]

You want it for the top of packs but most times you
Can squeeze one in for every pack or sometimes 2 times a pack

[dense elbow]

Doesnt matter in context of "why my dam so low, others do 10m" that is his issue

[lime vortex]

worse thing is when the tank pulls tiny, stays in the same position for 5 sec, you bladestorm, everyone uses cds, he sees the numbers go up and he pulls another pack, i hate that

[compact knot]

please do, i would like to check when you are using bladestorm/reck because that tends to be the issue with low overalls if you arent even dying

[smoky vale]

bro mage is fun

[winter shoal]

W

[lilac kettle]

Oh that's the OF architect moment

[compact knot]

in mop?

[smoky vale]

i love being in arcane soul

[compact knot]

oh

[smoky vale]

and gassing abarr

[dense elbow]

Paladin, yuck

[compact knot]

yeah arcane soul is fucking incredible

[undone flower]

I feel like no bs every pack contributes more to overall trending toward 5 m

[brisk ridge]

Basically, I use Bladestorm whenever I can, when I see that I have a lot of procs that make its cooldown decent, but let's imagine I'm at the end of a pack of
3 mobs, I'm not going to use it even if I had full procs that lowered its cooldown.

[smoky vale]

i feel like i want more haste before playing ff fire

[compact knot]

i was like 690 ilvl and hit a nasty 70 million arcane barrage on forgeweaver

spec is great

[dense elbow]

Everyone is that group is doing 5m, that is a TANK ISSUE, and you tanked for long enough that you know this

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-gif-25783770

[storm birch]

This was my breakdown in a 16 gambit. I think maybe you’re just not farming your reap procs efficiently enough @brisk ridge

[plush zephyr]

I was at 55% haste last time I checked. Pretty sure that’s too much for mage but whatever

[dense elbow]

he cant farm reap procs if they pull under 5 targets

[oblique thistle]

Pretty much boils down to this:

• BS fresh packs to apply overwhelmed regardless of size because AM and MFE will award cooldown reduction and give you back bladestorm for the next pack
• Don't bladestorm a second time in the same pack
• Spam tf out of raging blow with enrage + whirlwind stacks to do mega damage

[undone flower]

Im too much disconnected with common folks now, when I do keys as tank I’m first dps since too long

[silver tapir]

Bane of my existence

[modest condor]

reap enjoyer http://puu.sh/KAJ6H/ad9bff2d68.png

[brisk ridge]

I know I logged quite a few keys when I was playing Slayer, but they aren't displayed because they aren't the highest keys I've done. How can I find them?

[plush zephyr]

By clicking on the dungeon itself on Warcraft logs

[dense elbow]

warcraftlogs, yourself, sort by fury, sort by hero spec: slayer

[plush zephyr]

Yeah that’s easier

[compact knot]

guys

he literally doesnt have any keys logged as slayer

i think he is asking how to upload them

[dense elbow]

@undone flower , talk to him in the native honhon hon, make sure that he understands how #1347646810457636974 works, ye?

[undone flower]

Oui mon seigneur

[storm birch]

I’m also an advocate for taking thunderous roar capstones but that’s not gonna make up the damage he’s missing

[dense elbow]

Hero

[oblique thistle]

I've been playing TR capstones + OF and im having a blast

[dense elbow]

🕺

[brisk ridge]

I can't find the option to set slayer

[compact knot]

because it doesnt exist when you sort yourself

you cant sort your own hero talents when on your own page for m+

but i can see you have ravager in every single fury key you have logged

[storm birch]

I still need to try OF but bleh not enough reward for another button and changing my opener 🤣

[storm birch]

I miss old titanic rage 🙁 then I’d play OF!

[compact knot]

OF + Troar is so strong

no cap

[lapis shadow]

@brisk ridge Breakdown for Arak 14

[compact knot]

does like 9% of my overall

[storm birch]

[lilac kettle]

Do you think spear should be used after BS to buff up more reap the storm crits?

[undone flower]

I sent you a DM, maybe it will help more if you explain clearly in French

[brisk ridge]

For now, that's what I'm doing (I write them above). ).

[lapis shadow]

The problem here was that I was a dumbo and clicked bladestorm before the next pack so I lost some reap procs

Otherwise reap would be much higher dmg %

Hog = cranked

[compact knot]

eco dome doesnt count

[oblique thistle]

didnt crank hard enough in the ecological dome

[compact knot]

i looked at the wrong thing

im fucking stupid

HAHHAHA

i thought that was dps

[lapis shadow]

I dont log my m+ keys

So this is whatever someone else has uploaded

[compact knot]

i log my weeklies just to see how high i can push the numbers

this is the real picture

i dont really do high keys though

[lapis shadow]

I should log my keys I feel like im hitting some insane numbers sometimes

[compact knot]

so the numbers cant be pushed too high

[lapis shadow]

Does the +10 also count the Xalathas bargain as help

[compact knot]

yeah

[dense elbow]

I log so I can see my own progress

[brisk ridge]

I just made three keys in Slayer. I asked the people with me if they could upload the logs. @compact knot As soon as it's done, I'll send it to you.

[dense elbow]

[lapis shadow]

Send it in #1347646810457636974 so we all can see 👍

[compact knot]

ill be on the lookout

[compact knot]

im going to assume its just being to careful about cd usage

[charred flint]

when are they fixing

spell desintiy

why do i need to watch chaos bolts flying in in raid

[dense elbow]

next year

[charred flint]

jeez

[lapis shadow]

never

[dense elbow]

"essential" = DND, Conc, Blizzard, RoF - all layered above the ground effects

this is core WoW experience

and blizz will force it

[storm birch]

I never understand the cut that WCL takes out from the details meters

Dps is always lower on WCL compared to what I have in game

[brisk ridge]

No problem, I'll do that.

[lapis shadow]

Thank you jinx from Arcane series

[compact knot]

WCL takes time spent inside the dungeon doing noting into account (downtime walking to next pack or something), details does not

atleast thats my guess

i could be fake

[oblique trail]

It does indeed account for your total time spent in the dungeon, not just in combat

[dense elbow]

Go into details, set to "overall damage" not "active damage", then start scratching your head when ppl say they do 12m DPS

[lilac kettle]

That's how our raid quickly found out why the destro lock isn't topping the meter in Araz. Only one green booger flying

[brisk ridge]

Okay, my friends told me they uploaded my keys, now I have to figure out how to send them here. in #1347646810457636974

[undone flower]

to see your "details damage", you have to hover your uptime in the damage tab

[brisk ridge]

I posted in the appropriate channel or where I was told to, I don't know if I did everything right, sorry.

[languid willow]

bro ur eco dome is nuts

[brisk ridge]

The worst part is that, honestly, I just want to know what I'm doing wrong, since I'm not pushing myself any harder. It's just so that when I help people, I don't come across as an idiot.

After that, I know I'll have to change classes because with my disabilities, I get exhausted very quickly from having to press all the keys very fast in War Fury.

But first, I'd like to know what I'm doing wrong, so I can understand and “change,” but between now and midnight, I probably won't be playing the class anymore.

@compact knot i have upload the log

[compact knot]

ok

[brisk ridge]

Sorry again for the inconvenience, and sorry for overthinking things too much.

[compact knot]

its all good

i like doing these things

[olive wraith]

Try using powerful enrage

Will help lower your apm a very tiny amount

[undone flower]

yeah maybe powerful enrage slayer might help

[compact knot]

i think powerful enrage is REALLY good in lower keys

with a good tank

[olive wraith]

I use it in my 14s

[compact knot]

also i might start using it because my fingers hurt after 1 key

[olive wraith]

Extra second of enrage is low key nice

[brisk ridge]

thanks

[olive wraith]

Might explain why you do better as thane too

And also if you’re deciding not to push much higher, keep using thane. It’s still good

[brisk ridge]

Yep, for now, that's what I'm doing.

[compact knot]

@brisk ridge I went over some of the issues i saw at a glance

they are the most common issues I notice

the bladestorm one is the biggest problem

[zealous pier]

Any cool weapon transmog ideas to go with the Mage Tower set?

[compact knot]

Nah I found the issue instantly

he sent bladestorm on a single 10% hp mob at the very end of a lust pull and skiming through the replay he does it multiple times in that eco dome

[storm birch]

Oof

[olive wraith]

What is that you’re looking at

Wtf

[compact knot]

replay through warcraft logs

this is first pull ecodome

[olive wraith]

Don’t think I’ve ever seen that screen lmao

[storm birch]

Would explain their lack of overall reap damage then

[compact knot]

he goes into next pull and doesnt reach 10 overwhelmed stacks on any of the mobs except his main target

[olive wraith]

I’m gonna log every key now

Most common mistake rears its ugly head again

[brisk ridge]

Thanks for help really

[storm birch]

->

[compact knot]

of course

[hollow leaf]

top right

[olive wraith]

Ily all

[compact knot]

ouch

[hollow leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-and-i-love-you-random-citizen-i-love-you-metro-man-parasocial-relationships-gif-21170390

[compact knot]

he goes into next pull and only gets 2 reap procs

lmao

[hollow leaf]

sounds like no overwhelmed

[compact knot]

yeah

a couple of other issues as well

[serene socket]

m+ aoe rotation essentially boils down to WW->Rampage->RBx3->Repeat yeah? Plus Execute procs when the WA dings?

[compact knot]

hmm not entirely

its a lot more dynamic than you would think with how important bladestorm is and cdr

[hollow leaf]

we don't really have a rotation

it's a priority list

[compact knot]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

bingo

[worn rain]

and our priority is

[olive wraith]

Not entirely

[compact knot]

read

[compact knot]

also a thing I didnt mention is its worth it to push bloodthirst at the start of a pack if you dont have bladestorm

*also assumes 10 overwhelmed stacks

[bitter palm]

ngl fury prio just depends what u want

cause u must have bs up for new mobs

rb is technically more dps but not having overwhelmed is a big dps loss

[olive wraith]

Exe is also good prio damage

[compact knot]

its gotta be close to a reap + raging blow

[olive wraith]

More ramp means more rek means more Ava

This is why we follow the prio

[sour frigate]

ye sometimes drop like 10kk

on my 704 fury

[bitter palm]

too bad reap gaps both cds

[olive wraith]

More ava means bigger reaps

[lilac kettle]

What reduces ava CD tho?

[compact knot]

noting

reck gives you avatar

[lilac kettle]

Ah

[compact knot]

but more reaps is better than bigger reaps

[lilac kettle]

(me)

[compact knot]

its more worth it to combo reck + bladestorm

[rigid stirrup]

If it's m+ I tend to hold bladestorm till next pack if we're going in the next like 10ish seconds

[plush zephyr]

Seeeend that shiiit

2 health? Bladestorm up? Shit is getting buzzsawed

[olive wraith]

Pls no

Don’t tell people that

[plush zephyr]

loool

Sorry

[compact knot]

this is very good

dont stop doing this

[foggy aspen]

anyone have tips on how to know when to use spell reflect?

[undone flower]

You use it as a magic DR or to reflect

There is a spreadsheet to know which spells are reflectable / some WA helps

[lilac kettle]

Spell reflect essential Weakaura + good plater profile. Jundies plater profile changes the mob castbar color to magenta if the cast is on you and you have spell reflect ready

[plush zephyr]

Spell Reflect Weak Aura Updated
Torkal's spell reflect weak aura has been updated for Season 2 after correcting an instance ID issue. Only tested in one dungeon so far, but everything appears to be working properly and back on easy mode again!

• I personally wouldn’t recommend the extra voice pack though, just use the defaults.

https://wago.io/pjl-p3su9

[coarse pond]

how many stacks of Slaughtering Strikes should i be getting after bladestorm before next rampage?

[lilac kettle]

5 max I think. Or until you run out of enrage or RB charges

[compact knot]

as many as possible until you run out of enrage

[lilac kettle]

I most often run out of RB charges and send on 2-3

[coarse pond]

ty

[foggy aspen]

what about in raid, does this work there too?

[undone flower]

Usually you can’t reflect anything in raid

Mostly roots/slows or weird shit like that

[foggy aspen]

what about if i get the swirlly on Plex?

[undone flower]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQQCkBEkOadsvO4sTphB1RwzC6Z_3kq00IFaBrCk5Eagz2Jeoox7D7Rk3XwXMINbh4lUg9Vr-3RgoB2/pubhtml

A good reflect in raid is on saladbar / the claws

[leaden wasp]

how much behind is ascension in m+?

[olive wraith]

Kinda hard to quantify

[dense elbow]

Weirdly enough, my hands got less issues with frenzied than powerful, just flows better and feels more chill

https://tenor.com/view/husky-zoomies-gottagofast-gif-26617983

[leaden wasp]

so really no ascension if the focus is on mythic+?